#111 | Humour | When Is It OK To Laugh?

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Should hit record. So, you little brown bum. Well, so what you are is that the tan lines and, like, to be honest, you look just look a bit browner than you normally look. Brown. That's disappointing, is it? Yeah. I thought it was only white people that are interested in getting tans. May I fucking slather myself in that?

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Like vegetable oil? I want to cook. But you already have lovely color. Yeah, I want more. I want to go. I want to go. I want it to be that people are. Oh, good. You've been on all day. Does anyone say that? Yeah. They do it for a fake day. My dad loves it as well. Let's hope he's getting old.

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But there was a time where he would look. He could have been your dad. He that. Yeah, he'd got that brown. He reminds me of, you know, Ray Winston. Sexy beast. Yeah. In the, Spanish sun. Just like, you know, I suck, you know? Fuck. You know? Fuck. You know? Absolutely love it, man. Back from all. They didn't.

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Yeah. Back from holiday. My back from holiday came back Tuesday and it was free and fly it. Yeah. Well, I talk about, well, money saving thing or what? You choose freedom. Well, what I did was I flew back Tuesday morning. 12:40 in the morning. So I landed at, like, 3 a.m. and then got home at 4 a.m..

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So the main reason for that is on the Monday you get a clear run of Monday. You still get all of Monday out in Spain. Yeah. And you can do your package and you can still do a bit of sunbathing. You can still go to the pool and stuff like that, and then lock the villa up at night and then drive to the airport, dash the car and then on neutral.

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I realized that I've been doing that, so I get all of Monday. But then also equally remembering I'm terrified of flying, but terrified of flying at night is even worse than it was. And I'm like, but yeah, I just a stupid. And I know it's stupid. How can they, you're flying at night? How can you not see?

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Yeah, I can think. You can't see each other. They can see each other, but can and, can I, can they? And the thing is, thing is as well, on the Saturday, my cousin was out for his two weeks summer holiday, my cousin Ryan, and he was staying in central Tribeca. And so I met him for the footie on the Saturday.

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And after the nice eight straight in there, he was like, you never guess what? And I thought, well, he said something. I put something up on our flight and I say, not now, not now. I'm flying a Monday. Yeah. And he was like, when they got to Alicante, the plane landed. Touchdown ties to tarmac for 10s and took off again.

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That's not you don't want that. Like you don't want that. And then they say over the name of it, it's. Well, yeah. Go on. The botched landing. Something like that. A bulk landing or what's it called, a bulk bulk landing. Is that what is. Apparently I didn't have. Did you know that I've been on one? Oh, I've.

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Yeah, yeah. After five days in Amsterdam, I was fucking in a terrible way. And it was me, the wife, and we were sitting next to these lads had also been out there for that, but they are less decorum than us. And, we landed a I think it might have been Gatwick and then we're on hit the tarmac and then not.

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We got back up and then we had to circle Gatwick for about 45 minutes waiting for us. Oh my God. Waiting for a slot to get back down. It was horrible. Yeah. And I spoke to my cousin and I think there was a bit of the, there may have been miscommunication in the panic of it and stuff. And the issue, it was saying that they couldn't speak to the pilots in the cockpit to understand what was going on, because they were busy.

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And then you're not right. That's why they say, no, that's that's not what I want to hear. Well, like I say one little thing. Sorry, we've have to go around. These things happen. It more common than you think. Don't worry. Yeah. They were too busy to let 200 people stop shitting themselves. Exactly. Everyone keep your seatbelts on. No one.

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No one. Get up out your seat. And it's like, what is going on? What the hell is going on? And then they think they heard electrical fault and something else. And something else. What do you mean they heard from who? From the estimate. What they're whispering. Yeah. I don't know what was happening, but they heard an electrical fault.

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So obviously their minds racing, and they're like, fuck me. This is like, is this air in here again? Yeah. This is, you know, like, something's happening. But I messaged Ben obviously straight away and I was like, mate, this is happen here. Here's the wording that I've heard. And he said, electric fault, an engine failure that doesn't really go.

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They may have misheard, but what's happened is that the tailwinds he always blames on tailwinds. Everything everybody thinks tailwinds everything. Oh yeah. Planes going upside down. Yeah. Oh my. My wife shagging the next door neighbor. Tailwind. Yeah. Tailwind. Fucking I've enough for your tailwind Ben. Stick your fucking tailwinds up your on. But yeah that's as well. But it's constantly sticking tailwinds up his ass.

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And he said that Alicante is a known kind of short landing zone. So it's probably fallen short of where it's supposed to land. And then it just jumped back up in airspace again. And then ten minutes later it did the circling and it landed. But again, that's not what I wanted to hear. So when it was my turn to fly, I was like, fucking, it's nighttime.

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I've got booked landing on my head. I've got tailwinds there. And then molecules were saying one of our best mates was in on holiday in Cornwall, and the best mate was saying to my daughter, about this,

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Not tornadoes. What is it? You know, in, the Atlantic hurricane and hurricane. Yeah, that was actually it was coming across I think it was coming across. It was. Yeah. But it was more it was like a thousand miles west. But there was there was something in the Atlantic. Yeah. I didn't know that. And I didn't want to know, I couldn't I couldn't bring myself to research where this fucking thing was.

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But they said it was extra blowing in Cornwall. And I was like, God, we're going to have to fly through that. We've got to get in there. And I was like, okay, right, maybe it's just past. Maybe it's just bullshit. Your mind's racing. Yeah. We take off from Alicante, a seatbelt signs on, we do that kind of thing where you bank left because you're going on your new trajectory.

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Yeah, I've got my headphones on. I'm not fucking on the seatbelt sign. Still on. We're not. We've not 15, 20 minutes in the air now, this should have done the thing. You can now go to the toilet and fucking it about. Yeah. And, I put my phone out and I said them. We left the seatbelt signs on because we're going to be flying directly into turbulence.

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For for a short while, I lost a slot. Yes. Okay. Can you not can you can you just not fly into turbulence? Can you just go a different way? Why do you have to fly directly into the tailwinds? You go, yeah, tailwinds. And then I'm sitting there and I'm, you know, luckily it was more of the vibration of the plane going side to side.

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I don't mind now. I can handle like it's the room where you go up and down, but you feel like you're just dropping out of the air that you never had, that I've never. In my time I felt like the plane had dropped to. Oh, I've never experienced that. Really? Yeah. Not. Not like it feels like it's dropped 100ft, but it hasn't kind of thing.

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I never had that effect for me. We've had a little bumpy ones remembering when we flew to Genoa. Yeah, we kind of like we need held hands at one point because we did that hand face. I don't know when I, I never want to sit next to you on a plane, ever. Nice. I know there's nothing you can do to help me on that plane.

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I also, I saw this thing on them TikTok of, stress test of the air, the planes, the wings. Oh, yeah. It can bend all over the shop. Then things like they can really kind of almost touch hands at the top of the plane. Really. Maybe not that much, but there is. Yeah. So we're right. The planes on the wings aren't going to fall off.

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Yeah, that I mean, that's good I mean, I so at the moment I've done my, more who doesn't I've done with your flight line. Yeah. I'm a flight. What, what, like people that want to join the mile high club by, like. Well, how can you get relaxed enough to get an erection, perform in a tiny little cubicle?

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Zero. And not just. Yeah, it is a terrible idea. And it's like you're going to the toilet and, like, especially, like, easier loads of people are in mock outs, like you want to. You want fucking five different fumes of shit while you're like, no getting kinky now, I don't know. I'll, I'll wait. I'll wait until I, you know, till I don't get it when I'm going.

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Yeah. Just get to a bed to wherever I need to. Yeah. Ridiculous. But anyway, I'm back. I've got a renewed sense of, optimism. Yeah. Because there was so much fun, wasn't it? Yeah, it was fucking about. I went that absolute about, never do that to me again. No, no, I've learned my lesson. You learn. You learn these lessons that the internet in Spain, more specifically at my, family, that is, is fucking terrible.

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And the hate that doesn't have. Yeah, the heat doesn't help. All of it doesn't help. And next time I've, I probably just won't record or I'll try and do a pre-recording somehow or whatever, but whatever. Yeah. I'm. I'm back. How are you, mate? Yeah. Good. So fine. Everything's fine. Ricky. So I run the jingle. Let's do it.

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Oh. Hello, guys. Welcome to good. I'm hungry. Hello, and welcome to lands anonymous is episode 111. I'm Ricky Heath, lab two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions. And I'll feature something only you and I. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. I'm really hungry. Why always 12, seven, eight net.

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You know, at lunch. Yeah, I had breakfast at like eight. Yeah, now I'm hungry. Are you hungry? No, I've not had breakfast and I've not had lunch. You don't usually have it. You know, you bring your body, you might not actually be hungry, but your body's going. This is when you usually eat now. So what? What is it doing?

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Is it trying to feast on the fat reserves that are there? I mean, hope so, yeah. May, Fuck. You know, if it does, you know, like, I'd lost maybe 6 pounds before I went to Spain. And it wasn't in preparation in Spain. It was just. I've realized that I've put on a bit of timber, actually, a lot of timber.

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And it's kind of like, I need to diet and I need to try and, you know, lose weight. You feel better and yeah, be better. And obviously I've gone to Spain and for the past two weeks I've just been eating anything and everything. I don't normally have breakfast. My first meal of the day is 1:00 north of 1:00, and I was having like straight away when I was waking up, having a breakfast and having a lot mid like mid-morning snack at 11, half 11 and going back in again like I want it.

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Just why was I doing all of that? Drinking lots of alcohol and, and now I'll come back and I've run up the stairs and I can feel things jiggling. And I'm just like, for fuck's sake, that's what holiday is about, knowing it. Unless you go to Center Parcs when it's not like that, you have to ride a bike everywhere.

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I lost about, I reckon, 5 pounds in a weekend. It's in the past and I was drinking and I was eating and doing all kinds of things because there's no called the no way. The only way you can get around is on a bicycle uphills. So yeah. You think assets in a park be relaxing and relaxing. It's an expensive, arduous, stressful experience.

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Guys sitting apart. Yeah, I was going to say part of the the reason as well. Like normally you'd be like, oh, I'll get some food. And then you look and it's like £20 for a burger and you're like, you know what, maybe I'm a wait until I get back to the chalet or something. We, we I went, we we took Sammy and Jess and the sun dude.

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Oh, yeah, we went to the we went to the what's called the Center Parcs in in Wiltshire. Lonely. Lonely. Yeah. And, obviously Jess is a big fan of this podcast, and we talked about our little adventures down the slide together. Did you, do you take her in the rapids? She went down. Really? I didn't go in, rapid.

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I only go on rapids view. You, Hahahahaha! That's fair. Yeah, that is fair. No, I didn't go on the rapids.

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You're waiting for me. I get that, and I will be dancing to go in those rapids, because that is what is the plan that we're not going. We are going. Oh, when are we going? I don't know, you said, wasn't it. There was. No, it was we. I said we can go then. And your. The answer was don't demonize go in week beforehand so we don't know what we're doing.

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Right okay. That's why we left it. So like we've got like we what. We're just waiting for your answer and not nothing. Come five three weeks has passed and you just haven't bothered. All right, all right. So did you not have enough time when you're sitting on the sun lounger in the sun to just think about the fact that this is the problem that needs solving?

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I did not do it. You don't have to do it. It's fun to decide I'm going to do this. Of course I want to. Just when I did, when I don't know when was the day again? It was October. It was the October. I think it was the October half term. That was in October, September, September. Yeah. You can't do October and I can do October.

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I can do the Mrs.. Your right. This is this is that this is the truth. Everybody right. Ricky's missus is going to the Woburn, one with her branch for a birthday party for a year. Yeah. Yeah, right. For your birthday party, right? Yeah. Well, I proposed to take you. Yeah. Mrs.. And your children. Which is the key to your children.

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Who are we going to enjoy? Set up box way more than you. And they're missing out because you're going inside the box a week before. Think about that. They keep asking me about it as well. Well, they're going to know about it. That's what's going to happen because I've got their numbers and I'm going to message the little one and I'm going, I want to take you to send the parts, but we can't go because your mum is going to week before and she doesn't care.

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Yeah, I'm just being a dick. That's what I think you should do. Should I? Yeah. Because you're because she ultimately she just wants to. She just wants the girls to be as happy as they possibly can be. That is her modus operandi. Yeah. So if I cause a bit of pain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So in the happiness.

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Yeah yeah yeah yeah. All we can just postpone it to the half term in October. So I always decide let us know. Yeah. Today's topic is do you know what today's topic is. Comedians. Yeah. Well humor. Humor, humor. Yeah. Humor. And this was actually submitted by, one of our patrons, and they were talking about humor and how dark is dark and what you can say and what you can't say.

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Just kind of the the state of kind of not really comedians, but like, what's acceptable when, when can you joke about things anymore? And it's like, how, how soon after nine, 11. Are you allowed to joke about it? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I just wanted to, what's your sense of humor? Like, what are you.

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Oh, would you say you're a dark guy? I'd say in the past, yeah, when I was a kid. And I thought it was edgy to, like, dark comedy and same dark stuff. Yeah, but as you grow older, it fades, surely, because the extremities of which, of the subjects you're talking about, they can only like, you know, there was a phase where, you know, dead babies were not off limit.

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Yeah. And enjoyed not. Yeah. Physical dead babies weren't enjoyed the jokes about them. Like, what goes plop, plop, fizz. Two babies in an acid bath. So, there was there was a time I found that very funny. Yeah. Now I don't find it funny. Oh, yeah. And there was another one as well, I think, it was a Chicago dance.

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I was thinking Chicago. The Hennessy favorite. He was the one. What's what's the difference between, like, ten dead babies and a Ferrari? Well, I don't know. I don't have a Ferrari in my garage. Yeah, there was also that one where. What's worse than the pilot? Dead babies. The one at the bottom trying to eat its way out. Okay.

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Oh.

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That's pretty grim. It is grim. It is grim. I like I don't think I've grown out of that. Really? Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my my humor is very dark kind of gallows humor. And, if I was to say, like, sometimes I say stuff in our WhatsApp group in, like, lads WhatsApp groups, and I say it, no one kind of does an emoji or a laugh or anything like, you know, when you think you've gone too far.

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Yeah. And I'm not fake. And that will stay with me for days. And I'm like, I wasn't really, you know, the whole joke of me saying these things is because, you know, I'm not like that and I'm playing up to that stereotype. I just thought you was like that after 20 years. You're saying you're not like that? No, no, I don't think so.

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You you want to make the joke? You want to get the credit for making people laugh? Yeah. You also want people to know that you're not really like that. Yeah, yeah. You don't make the joke then, Rick, whatnot. Yeah, but that's. You are like that. I am like that. Probably. Yeah, yeah you are I am not I think I think like some I everyone's been in that situation.

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Go do arrest this do arrest yet and it's worse in groups. So it's far in you know WhatsApp group is fine because everybody knows. Right. And there's nothing any of us could say that could offend another person. I don't think more or less. No. Unless it was like genuine feeling, you know, like whatever might be racism or something like that, you feel then that would.

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But generally, you know, you're on safe ground because everybody's on board with the sort of stuff that's going on. And there's this idea that you're you're locked in a secret room that no one can see. And when no one's watching, people behave completely different to when people are watching. Absolutely. Which is why WhatsApp groups were really important, right?

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Because it enables people to just be who they want to be without fear of what others might think. Yeah, people also understand when they're in WhatsApp groups that it just stays in WhatsApp. Well, you wouldn't behave this way in public. You wouldn't behave this way online. You wouldn't say these things to people didn't understand. So they're really important because most of the time people are pretending.

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Yeah. And and that's what makes sort of cancellation culture so stupid is someone might say like, I don't know, like so, but that was just, I want to bring up who. But it was recently someone I know who had a bit of pylon happen to him because of anti Islamic stuff that he'd said on on what's so.

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No sorry on, on on Twitter when he, when he was saying that there was, he was responding to it was when Andrew Rigby had his head chopped off. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was chopped off. Yeah. Yeah. Well, was certainly, you knifed so the next slash the terrible. Right. And he was there was an article that came out that said that this wasn't a, this wasn't necessarily a Islamic related, like a muslim violence, a Islamic act of violence.

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And he was responding online, a series of tweets saying, how can you not think that this wasn't right? And there was a few other bits. You open the WhatsApp of every single person that's condemning him. You will find something in there. That's probably even worse than what he was saying. He was making a political point, amongst other stuff that was much more, unpalatable.

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But like, it's there's just everyone just walking around like a walking hypocrite. Yeah. Apart from my wife, he doesn't engage in any of this sort of stuff.

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Really. The women, their WhatsApp group, which I've seen a couple of times, they're not doing the edgy banter, is it? Is it like butterflies and doves flying and rainbows? Well, we had a WhatsApp group called Tits and Cake. Yeah. And we found that they had they found out about that WhatsApp weave and there was a WhatsApp group called Cox and Kebabs.

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Right. Good. That was their one. But that wasn't actually my wife. That was that was connected to other people. But I like to think that they do, but I'm not sure my missus and I might do with it with your, with your style of banter and your, what you've put in the WhatsApp group. Do you have you ever expose your messages to this stuff that you that made you laugh or that is really close to the bone, the gray area?

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And it's a bit like if I said this out loud, what would my wife. Yeah, there's tons of stuff in there that she it'd be difficult to explain. And, you know, in the WhatsApp group, there was so many things like they're like the storylines are built up through like for example, we've talked about Kyle quite a lot in recent podcasts, but, if you just read what Kyle wrote, you think this guy's also why are you friends of him?

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But if you know Karl, you know that this all part of Karl's character as the extended version of himself. And actually, when you meet him in real life and you speak to him, he's just genuinely a really courteous, lovely person. Yeah. Who just finds this stuff funny. And so I think that. Would it be a tricky explanation? Something like that.

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So yeah. But the good case in putting here is remember when we first started fighting cock, we had the 30% telegram group? Yeah. When someone new came into that group, they had to be shown the drill video. Now, the drill video was a man living in pain, having a drill inserted down in and out of his. What do you call it?

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Urethra. Yeah. How awful. He was going to say. No, I knew it. You can. Yeah. But you love that because I heard I heard well, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, they put it up and down that. Yeah. And then that's it. I know I'm not like, these are people that are signing up for the fight and called patron.

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And they've joined this group, which they assume is going to be a talk chat about Tottenham Hotspur. But the first thing I see is a drill going into a penis, you know, like the rule of the, the all the people. By this rule, if you can't handle the drill video, then well, you shouldn't be here. It's just trying to survive it.

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Boys, help me out. So my missus saw that and she wasn't appalled by it, which shocked me. Oh, she what she saw that day. She is odd, but she wasn't like, you're weird, right? Because I say stuff to my Mrs.. Like, stuff that I know I shouldn't say. Well, she knows me. So, you know, just playing up to stereotypes and stuff like that.

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What of stereotypes? All of them. All the stereotype. Like a lot. It's a lot. I mean, I would probably get myself canceled if I would, you know, just.

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Like, explain to me, Ricky, show me. I don't know if it's like, you've never done this about me. I'm surprised. No. So you're you're you're a fucking liar, for starters. So I know someone. I know someone I won't, but. Yeah, but when they saying, do you want to go for a Chinese, they'll do a Chinese accent. Oh, is that all right?

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I mean, I see this is what I wanted to. This is a great thing to discuss, right? What? So. Right when no one's listing.

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It's like if a tree falls, if it's true, if it's racist. Between you and the mate is Eredivisie. But it's true. It's true. Like, if you're in the car and no one's around you and you're rapping along to DMX, is it okay to say the N-word in that moment? Right. What's your answer? I mean, I, got I probably the N-word for me.

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Yeah, he's one of those ones that I always said around. There's no way when you're rapping along to DMX on your own. On my own now, you will not say the N-word in that moment. No, no no no. Me you, No no no no me. Hang on. I'm not allowed to enjoy the song. I get it around people.

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I wouldn't say it around people. I wouldn't even start rapping around people and, like, well, I had this conversation with John Bass on his podcast, Notorious Pod, and we were talking about whether or not it's all right for white people or any of any race to say the N-word while rapping along to music, obviously, because, yeah, it's about intent, isn't it?

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In context. And I was like, well, if you're around other people, firstly, we probably shouldn't be the ones that decide whether or not it's okay or not. Right to to white men. But yeah, but but if you're on your own, there's absolutely no problem. Like no one's hearing you. It's just you. That's true. But if you're in a car and someone can lip read or, you know, I guess, all right, you know, cos you're in a, you're in a cell, you're in a sealed room, right?

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A soundproof room. Right? No one can hear you. There's no possible way they can hear you in that moment. Yeah. Is it okay to rap along and use the N-word? For me personally, I wouldn't do that. But if no one else can hear it. No, would I not? No. Would I? Ricky? Deary me. But again, it's the like you're saying about the the accent that you, your friend would put on if they're ordering, a Chinese man.

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Not to the Chinese. They wouldn't call up the right order in that accent, but they would do it to you. Yeah. Do you? I won't do it. But, you know, would you like to have a Chinese for dinner? However, just give me an example of what that would sound like. You know, you're trying to get me. You're trying to do the same thing.

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They would just mock up a Chinese accent, and we all laugh a little bit, and then. So. So what? I think what I'm trying to, understand not understand here, but what is the punching down and punching up argument. Right. And in the context of are you doing it to laugh at an accent or a culture or play up to a stereotype?

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Is that okay? And that's the thing is, like the me in the way of humor, I get if you, doing accents and stuff to to take the piss. But Jen, like a generic stereotype of a certain culture or anything. Yeah. It is deemed as racist, but it's kind of like in the softer side of the context, you know?

00:30:17:12 – 00:30:23:23
I mean, it's not like you,

00:30:24:00 – 00:30:51:09
Tearing down someone's culture or being, corrosive in the way that you're portraying or anything like that. I'm not saying that it's okay to do, but it's one of those bits that I don't know that in humor today that a comedian would going up on stage or anyone doing anything like that, you you probably can't do that. And there are a few comedians that would do that.

00:30:51:09 – 00:31:14:02
Do you know what I mean? I think it's about how good a comedian you are. I think there's some. My favorite comedian, Bill Burr, managed to toe this line brilliantly. Some people say it doesn't toe line me goes over the top. But he he says something and you think in this is borderline racist. But then he brings it round and by the end it isn't that.

00:31:14:04 – 00:31:20:15
But because he's obsessed like an obscenely funny man.

00:31:20:17 – 00:31:42:01
I think you could. If you're very skillful about it, you can you can toe that line if you're willing to. But that's different from, say, Roy Chubby Brown, who's just racist is not funny. Yeah. Like that isn't like Roy Chubby family. The the funny man on earth. Unless you are a racist. Yeah. And I thought he might have cleaned up his act that I don't know.

00:31:42:01 – 00:32:05:16
But the when he was massive, Roy Chubby Brown was like, it was just vile. Shit is crap. And, what was I always get mixed up between. Is it Bernard Manning? Yes, I know, but it doesn't. Bernard Manning who makes steaks is is that Bernard Matthews? I'd say this is what I mean. I get mixed up with saying that both of them are getting it.

00:32:05:16 – 00:32:34:07
Bernard Manning is the comedian, I'm sure. Yes he is. Bernard Matthews is the guy that makes kind of bread crumbs, chicken that you stick in the oven or something. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah. So those types of comedians, right. Again, it's that point of how they're saying stuff and how they're portraying it in the context. It is just mean and being horrible and being racist.

00:32:34:07 – 00:33:22:00
And that was the joke back then because he was a flexible what the way a lot of people viewed these issues. That's right. And now you get to a point in today's society that if you were to base your comedic or any jokes around that some people or a lot of people would find that offensive because it's like a direct attack on these cultures and it isn't a kind of a bill, where there's a story to it and it comes back around, or it's kind of that more higher type of comedic routine where it shows the why you're poking fun and, you know, the pros and cons, whatever it might be.

00:33:22:02 – 00:33:51:12
Now, if people were trying to kind of be like saying those horrible things, you can't say anything anymore. Fucking snowflakes everywhere. It's like, no, I like we've moved on as a society, I feel like we have or trying to move on. And there are some things are still up for, like for laughing about with the humorous side to it, like you said about Bill Burr.

00:33:51:12 – 00:34:20:08
But then there are other people that are just horrible and it just isn't funny. You can tell by the acts whether or not they're being horrible or, you know, they're like, can I say, Rachel, your ban Burning Man? Is it? Yeah. But I mean, you know, they were over time and said things that are deeply and reinforced, you know, xenophobic beliefs, I guess.

00:34:20:08 – 00:34:49:18
But my I'm sorry, but you can say a lot of things. Yeah, yeah. If you can only be funny by being really offensive, then you're probably in the wrong game. Yeah. I mean, my, my old man, he he told me he actively went out back in the day or a ticket to go and see Jim Davidson and yeah, he enjoyed it.

00:34:49:20 – 00:35:18:03
Yeah. Because he did. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know much about this character but it was did he do a character called Chalky White. And it was like, a stereotype I think is of of, a black guy maybe of, you know, Caribbean or me, I, I don't really, I don't because I didn't really want to watch it and I didn't really want to find out about it, but he would do this whole routine.

00:35:18:03 – 00:35:37:21
But then he would do a how routine about all the races. My dad said he got into this club and he was with his mates. He sat down. And Jim Davidson is like scanning the room to see where people of ethnic minorities are. And he's like banging them one by one. I'm not dad. How could you even go into that?

00:35:37:21 – 00:35:57:17
Like, why would you even buy a ticket to that? And he said, Jim Davidson then spotted my dad and he was like, right, got a little Indian fella here, let's fucking go ten toes into him. And before he got to like his second or third sentence of going after my dad, the entrance door opens and then in walks a black guy.

00:35:57:24 – 00:36:20:19
And then obviously both barrels were directed that way. And I'm like, dad, I, I can't understand. And he was like, it's funny, Rick. I loved it. And I was like, okay, that's you know, it's just, you know, I mean, I couldn't I still can't get my head around it, I guess, I guess perhaps, I don't know, I can't profess I mean, it's your dad is free to find what every like.

00:36:20:19 – 00:36:49:24
It's funny, you know, there's he it's not for us to tell him that. I think he is. Perhaps there was a societal thing going on there at the time where, you know, in terms of the hierarchal nature of race in Britain during the 70s and 80s, I'm presuming that's when it was. Yeah, there would have been a clear, clear sort of structure that, perhaps is not evident anymore.

00:36:50:01 – 00:37:36:22
That's why Jim Davidson isn't relevant anymore. No. And I think he's well, like with those, like with those types of jokes and stuff like that, that they were saying back then would like, do you think and like even people say now but like defined or think it's, it's dangerous because he, it kind of it reaffirms like those stereotypes or that it's like it makes, it makes it people comfortable saying that stuff and believing it is like, yeah, I remember, I remember T and I, I've said this conversation, I've said this a few times that our friend felonious is black man.

00:37:36:24 – 00:38:10:14
He we were way back when we were meeting. Maybe it must been about I think it's when we went out to Manchester for the awards actually, if I remember rightly. Yeah. And I was maybe saying stuff was a bit closer for someone might do you in WhatsApp group when you're familiar with your mates and he said, he said to me something along the lines of, look, I know you're joking, but you say enough, you become comfortable with it and if no one picks you up on it, then who's there to stop this process from evolving, going on to other people?

00:38:10:16 – 00:38:31:07
So you become to influence other people. So from that moment I was like, yeah, right. That makes it. I can't it wasn't, you know, I'm not about in myself here as a racist. I'm just saying there are things that I said about it, like, you can't normalize these things. And that's what comedy, if it is just blatant racism and people like.

00:38:31:07 – 00:38:59:04
And sure, it loads people that were like it. It normalizes that feeling of ridiculing or looking down on someone because of the color skin, which is a dangerous, dangerous place and, to be in. And we're in this age now where racism seems to be reaffirming itself rampant. Yeah. And I don't think it's any more rampant, actually, Rick, I think it's just people are more comfortable with it now.

00:38:59:04 – 00:39:27:12
Right? Okay. So I think the same people were always felt that way, but they're beginning to be empowered to speak out. And, you know, the movements, the easy, the ease of spread of information now influences people like algorithms are feeding. You know, this created this channel of information that's feeding into the person, you know, about asylum seekers and about hotels and about all this stuff going on, there's no doubt, are issues, things that need to be discussed in a sensible way.

00:39:27:12 – 00:39:56:16
But it's it's creating a real sort of powder keg of it feels like that anyway. Or maybe it was always, but yeah. So normalizing that feeling is, is, is dangerous. Yeah. I mean, that is, that's a great example, by the way. And it is that normalization and, you know, it, it, it you kind of go down this path of woe.

00:39:56:16 – 00:40:17:02
If I don't know, fucking Frankie Boyle said it, then so can I. And it's like, well, there's two different things. There's a lot of different things there, like the context and like he's a comedian and he's doing, an actual bit about it, which involves a whole skit around what he's doing and what Frankie and Frankie Bowes said.

00:40:17:02 – 00:40:49:00
Racist comedy. Now that that was an example, I couldn't I couldn't think of a comedian quick enough without any kind of, okay, I know he's edgy, but he's like a left wing, isn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, actually, well, well, we've spoken about Frankie Boyle. What? Like. And we're talking about things close to the bone, and we're talking about things like, it takes a lot for me to be like, oh, God, that's that's horrendous.

00:40:49:00 – 00:41:09:24
Like, I don't know if, you know, you know, when you're kind of like, should I laugh at that? Or is that that's gone too far? Now, we do have a clip of, a Frankie Boyle joke that most people that, you know in the UK will understand that. So if you could, play that clip and tell me what you think.

00:41:09:24 – 00:41:14:15
Five. Okay.

00:41:14:17 – 00:41:24:22
Currently, Jordan and Peter Andre are fighting each other over custody of Harvey. Well, eventually one of them will lose. You have to keep him.

00:41:24:24 – 00:41:37:00
I have a theory that Jordan married a cage fighter because she needed someone strong enough to stop Harvey from fucking on.

00:41:37:02 – 00:41:54:18
I, I thought the first part of that joke was very funny. Yeah. Having to keep Harvey, obviously, because he's got special needs and that would be a bird. And then laughing at that is edgy and taps into something that was funny. That's the thing about.

00:41:54:20 – 00:42:18:19
It is marriage in a cage fight. It's so someone can stop Harvey from fucking there is. That's pretty. That was that made me go. Ooh, but isn't that also a part of comedy pushing the envelope? Yeah. Is that too far? Right. Do you think so for me at that time. So this is when there was quite a lot of spotlight on baby Katie Price.

00:42:18:21 – 00:42:46:21
And she had this child who has got, a lot of disabilities with Dwight Yorke, the football player. He didn't want to know. I don't know whether it's because of the, you know, the child had disabilities or it was Katie Price, whatever the situation was. But it was like the joke. The part of it is about like a disabled child and who is quite well known within the media as punching down.

00:42:46:23 – 00:43:08:11
Yeah. And I was like, fuck, I was not. Even for me, who laughs at most things? Even that I had a inhalation of like it was a fuck that was like, oh my God. I mean, what are they doing as comedians is to seek some sort of reaction? Not. And generally, if you're laughing, that's the best kind.

00:43:08:11 – 00:43:29:02
But to just go, yeah, I think he had a, he had a, it was his thing thingy stick at the time. Thank bow to be edgy like Jim Jefferies as well as an Australian comedy comedian. Yeah he was yeah he was pretty on on on a knife. It really it depends on how offensive and how funny you found it, but.

00:43:29:04 – 00:43:40:00
My issue here, Rick, is there is a line, but.

00:43:40:02 – 00:44:12:03
You it's not a bar. You should be allowed to offend people in pursuit of comedy, in my opinion. We don't want a world where you can't say stuff because some sections of society will be offended by it if it's problematic. And I appreciate that might sound contradictory to what we've just been talking about. If it's problematic to the point where it is feeding into a political sector, like if you're a comedian Jim Davidson, who feeds into a far right sort of I don't even want to say reform.

00:44:12:03 – 00:44:33:13
I mean further, further right than that and that and that's your crowd and that's your state. And that is a problem. But if you're a comedian who's just wants to say something funny, but is someone out there who might get offended for it, then I'm sorry you have to be offended by it, because the right to be offensive is important.

00:44:33:15 – 00:44:41:02
So you can't. So. But this is the point. We can't say anything. This is for someone to be offended. You have to be.

00:44:41:04 – 00:45:07:07
It's fine if someone and it's it should be encouraged that people, for example, can make jokes about Islam or can make jokes about Christianity without fear of reprisal cancellation. Yeah, in our culture, where free speech is supposed to be important, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if your whole thing is about the destroying to destroy someone or something because of their race and using comedy to do it, that's a different thing altogether.

00:45:07:09 – 00:45:30:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Totally agree. And especially like, if you're that your shtick is, as a comedian, doing the single thing about homophobia and that's all you kind of do, then you are, you know, systematically going out to, to gun those people down. Which brings me on to another clip that I thought we would talk about the Ricky Gervais script.

00:45:30:03 – 00:45:58:13
And he he's got into a lot of trouble over this one, this specific one. And now he kind of he, he talks about, do you know what? Just if he just, play the clip and then, we'll, chat about them. Which one was this? So it's the Ricky Gervais, this one punching down. Yeah.

00:45:58:15 – 00:46:10:15
Women. No. Women. I mean, the old fashioned ones. Yeah, they old fashioned women. Oh, you know, the ones with wombs.

00:46:10:17 – 00:46:31:24
Those fucking dinosaurs. You know, I love the New wave. I know the new. I mean, they're great. You know, the new ones we've been seeing lately were the ones with beards and cocks. They're as good as. They're as good as gold. I love em now. It's the old fashioned way there and now the old fashioned way. Oh, they want to use a toilet.

00:46:31:24 – 00:46:39:15
Why shouldn't they use your toilets for ladies? They all ladies look at their pronouns.

00:46:39:17 – 00:46:54:04
What about this person? Isn't a lady well, his penis. Her penis, you fucking fagot.

00:46:54:06 – 00:47:00:20
Yeah. So, I mean, how did you feel about that one?

00:47:00:22 – 00:47:10:22
Well, is Ricky Gervais a comedian? Yes, he is. All right.

00:47:10:24 – 00:47:41:11
I think in this instance, he has a point to make. And he's using comedy to make it is a political point. It's so hard to have these conversations about country because I'm just thinking about what I've just said. But yeah, he believes that something is wrong with the way they're approaching a particular subject. So in this instance, I mean, I think we've talked about this before, but.

00:47:41:13 – 00:48:06:15
It's funny because it's almost ridiculous because the reality is and grammatically and biologically, they can only have two sexes. Right? But it's a different conversation about identity politics. And so it's a very difficult thing which just ask me to talk about it. Yes. So, what I will say is so that he got a lot of blowback about his punching down in the trans community, and he shouldn't be doing that.

00:48:06:15 – 00:48:29:15
And there was a lot of outcry as punch. Is it punching down the because of how strong the identity politics movement is? You can you can have you canceled like that or less. So these days it seems. But the one point and said that everyone was terrified of talking about, being accused of being transphobic, that to me is quite a powerful community.

00:48:29:17 – 00:48:56:05
I don't think that's all I said. So I think the, the kind of, the narrative a, a white man with immense power and money punching down on a community that is obviously under the microscope a lot at the moment. And it is a, you know, political hot potato. And it's just an easy, easy win to to make that kind of joke.

00:48:56:07 – 00:49:17:02
What was it? Was his color genuinely brought into this? Sorry. You call him a white powerful man. What what does his color have to do? Anything. Well, it's you know, that's the a white man is generally like the top of the, Is it patriarchy? Is that is that the right word? And I think, yeah. So you're in the most privileged position, that kind of thing.

00:49:17:04 – 00:49:44:01
Yeah, completely. Now there is another clip. We're not going to play it, but I'm just going to kind of, just talk about where he says about, yeah, he did make that joke and it's fine. But what he also says is he's about equality. He makes jokes about Africans famine, about, you know, homophobia. He does anyone and everything.

00:49:44:04 – 00:50:06:13
He will pretend to be on the left side to make a joke about the right. He'll be he'll make a joke about being on the right side to make a joke about on the left, as long as it makes it funny and everyone gets it. So it's, although it is like, you know, a very contentious thing to talk about at the moment for me.

00:50:06:13 – 00:50:31:01
Like, he does go after anyone and everyone. So it's although, like you were saying, like obviously the, you know, the trans community, outraged about it. But it for me, it's like I laugh all the different other jokes that go on. But then if there was a racist joke and I'm like, oh, you can't say that.

00:50:31:01 – 00:50:49:16
It's like, well, you Rick, you you've just laughed at all these other jokes. And because it's kind of it's on you, you're like, oh, you can't say that. But it's like like you're saying about offense, like you, if you're going to sit down and watch comedian, they are going to make jokes that you're going to laugh at because you are laughing at stereotypes.

00:50:49:16 – 00:51:06:03
And then there is going to be one where the gun turns around on you and you just kind of like, can you go get off your seat and say, oh, that's that's disgusting. It's like, well, now it's all part of the principle that there would be groups of people, regardless of these sort of things, that will find it offensive.

00:51:06:03 – 00:51:32:20
And if he's particularly attacking the trans community, then obviously there's going to be uproar there. You remember, this is compiled on the fact that there's been horrendous things done to trans people. Yeah. And so it's almost like they've got to a point now that they have to fight against these things because they they think it reinforces, it reinforces the hatred towards trans people.

00:51:32:22 – 00:52:05:02
So they felt compelled to fight against it in that instance. So it's important to remember, recognize the journey. But the issue is that the in and obviously the issue for Ricky, the race is it's got to the point where, the it's gone beyond fact. It's gone beyond the binary nature of this. Yeah. Which is in, in terms of biology, as for all the species, generally you can only have male and female, right?

00:52:05:07 – 00:52:23:01
So yeah, for him to make a joke about that is fair because it's got to a point where it's, it's in it's a conversation in our, in our, you know, sphere and what things and these things are being discussed and they can be discussed and they should be discussed and, and but but also make some fair game for comedy, I guess.

00:52:23:01 – 00:52:47:01
So fuck those men, be offended or don't be offended. Exactly. And to finish it off, I just want to hear your top three comedians. I'm going to go first. You're going to go first. Yeah, yeah. Well, what what what just why you think so? I've just put you on the spot there. So Mickey Flanagan hugely enjoy his work.

00:52:47:07 – 00:53:09:20
And I do love the kind of, East and Cockney council state says it like it is that type of, it is a bit, you know, some of it is a bit of misogyny, some of it is a bit this and a bit that, but I just it he fuckin has me in hysterics. Absolutely love him.

00:53:09:22 – 00:53:33:19
Second, Bill Burr I think like when I first saw Bill Burr, I just thought he was this really angry kind of man and I just didn't really get it. And then I saw another reel and I was like, actually, that's quite funny. And then I went through, I found this page. This is quite a few years ago. And just all of it was just he was just getting he was just so angry at anyone and everyone.

00:53:33:21 – 00:54:02:19
But it is done in such a great way. I thought, this fucking guy, I'm having a bit of this guy. And then the third I would probably say is might surprise you, Russell Kane. I love Russell. Yeah I do yeah. He's bit where the we talked about his dad and how masculine his dad is and like butch and and then the so proper cockney and about a cat getting electrocuted by the Christmas tree is like that is fucking elite tier.

00:54:02:19 – 00:54:24:11
It was so funny. Yeah. But somehow. Yeah, his dad was, a bodybuilder. So he was bodybuilder, cockney proper fucking sort of the that kind of guy. And he says about this story, and then he has this skinny little waif of the comedian son who wears mascara and has a blond tint in his hair, and he's like, what the fuck?

00:54:24:11 – 00:54:54:03
You know what happened there? Right. The topic for next week, we are going to be discussing where the fuck you know, things that don't exist anymore. Pablo Queens. Where have they gone? Flav. Teletext. Right. Okay. Nice. Woolworths kind of pops where you know. Yeah. The good the blue bring Kylie Cole one morning kids TV raves in fields and warehouses.

00:54:54:03 – 00:55:20:18
Top of the pops music channels, all of this stuff that sounds great that that I don't know where it's going, but we're going to just have a good old chat. And if you've got something that you used to love that no longer exists, send it in to lad's Unknown pod at gmail.com and we shall read it out. Now the dilemma we have is called how do I do it?

00:55:20:18 – 00:55:28:13
My free fucking comedians are not. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, I forgot.

00:55:28:15 – 00:55:41:23
Okay, I'm going to cry. I'm going to go. Russell Brand, Russell brand. Yeah. Russell brand. Wow. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You know Crosby.

00:55:42:00 – 00:55:48:01
And Louis C.K., I.

00:55:48:03 – 00:56:13:11
Know my favorite Bill Burr. I think Bill Burr is the greatest comedian the planet is ever produced. Really? He is number one. I know a lot of people say Dave Chappelle, I think I think Bill Burr, for me, number one comedian that we've ever produced. And we got Bill Hicks. Yeah. And I would probably go.

00:56:13:13 – 00:56:36:22
I might, I probably I'd like maybe Robin Williams remember he signed up with some incredible back in the day. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I do. You know what I know is is Hannibal worse. Hey. Yeah. You know him. He's from he's the the guy who stand, you know, the, Oh, man. What's that? Made it mad? Show the, where?

00:56:36:24 – 00:56:54:03
I can't remember the guy's name, but he goes, he has celebrities on, and it's just this crazy showing, but sometimes he shoots someone. One of his band members, he, the the the test will explode suddenly be a giant fish tank on the screen. He'll start bleeding from his nose. You don't know what I'm talking about. The night.

00:56:54:07 – 00:57:17:12
Oh, my God, I don't know. I've got to tell you. People will be screaming for us. Yeah, that's what you just saying is absolutely mental. The Eric Andre show. You never heard of the Eric Andre? Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have have the Hannibal Buress was. He's the guy that stands next to the guest uncomfortably. Right. Okay, okay.

00:57:17:12 – 00:57:35:10
He check his he's specials. I think there was one on YouTube, mate. So funny. Really good and unique. Okay, so I think those those are your top three. Sorry about that. I just, Motherfucker. Yeah, I'm a motherfucker. I am a fuck. Yeah, I know I used to when I was a kid in terms of, like, edgy comedy.

00:57:35:10 – 00:57:56:11
That's not funny anymore. Stephen Lynch I used to listen to him a lot. I used to do comedic songs about the Special Olympics and stuff like that. Yeah, I never get, like, see, I actually had, you know, I was just about to veer off them, but I'm coming back now. You're like, when I. When we first met, you liked, Mighty Boosh.

00:57:56:13 – 00:58:20:23
Yeah. And that kind of abstract type comedy. And I was like, I don't know what the fuck is going on. What? This is fucking minute. How can you like this? It's mad. There's something as mental as that was so popular as well. It was hugely popular. They did three seasons on BBC. Yeah, that I mean. And my cousin, as well, he used to love,

00:58:21:00 – 00:58:41:02
Is it flight of the Conchords? Is that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's like flight. I forgot the songs and I was just a couple partners. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get any of this stuff. It's quite funny, isn't it? That stuff that you see and you're like, I have no idea why people find this funny. And then other people are like, this is religious, this is me.

00:58:41:02 – 00:59:00:01
This is everything I'm about. It's like the office is not really funny anymore, is it, when you look back. So. Oh fuck is this? Oh, at the time it was like, brilliant. This is groundbreaking. Now you like this? Is it, is it good? This is good. People still like this shit that I. Yeah. I think you don't like it.

00:59:00:06 – 00:59:20:14
It's because I still I do this, it's still like up there. And you're always that guy that wants to fly under the radar. No, that's not cool anymore. It's not, you know, like, you know, when it when Netflix, you know, making a murder or whatever, and you're no one's heard of it. You've already seen five episodes. You're like, this is brilliant.

00:59:20:14 – 00:59:47:02
Then when everyone catches on, you know, yeah, I. Yeah, the office isn't even it shouldn't be considered as a top tier comedy TV show, because it's not even his best comedy TV show. Extras. Extras is so much funnier than The Office. I think they're both. They're both fantastic. Well, it's the top three. You're saying your top three comedy shows and you've got Office and Extras in the top three?

00:59:47:04 – 00:59:59:04
I would say office is definitely in the I probably wouldn't have extras. Extras, Hispania, I mean, these people all are close for love. And I saw everything.

00:59:59:06 – 01:00:18:24
Was Patrick St Patrick's to it all. What's it all about? Is it time where someone's clothes fell off and he saw everything? It's so good. I could watch that and laugh out loud every single time. The extras. I need to rewatch that. Yeah. I haven't seen it in years. She should watch along. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

01:00:18:24 – 01:00:54:01
Fucking love to do that. Not to do that. Oh, by the way, before I, go into this, it's, I should have done this at the top of the show. Really? Just got excited because we were chatting again in normal surroundings, but, patron, I have said this to the the patron not, but I, I, you know, I say this tentatively have started to have discussions about a potential Latin anonymous live show.

01:00:54:03 – 01:01:10:19
Right. What do you want to discuss this for me when you say you discussions. I haven't been involved. Any of them. Yeah, I know this is why I should have lot I should have, but. And this is what it's tentatively. Yeah, but the wheels are in motion without you been so busy. Do you think I've been talking to Charlie?

01:01:10:21 – 01:01:35:05
Yeah, yeah. You know, he's busy now. Yeah, I know he's busy, but. But, man, get stuff done. And this this is his wheelhouse. So, like, he he knows all about this. So there will be a, you know, hopefully a live show by the end of the year. And if you want to get tickets for that and you want to be first in the queue for that, because these are going to be intimate shows, right?

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So just come and join in on the patron. And now we are going to be going on to dilemmas and something only you know. The dilemma is called accidental accent. And something tiny, you know, is called head and little soldiers.

01:02:26:19 – 01:02:53:06
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01:02:56:00 – 01:03:20:09
Accidental accent. So some of you may know who the YouTuber Lilly Singh is. And if you don't, she's an Indian Canadian YouTuber who used to make a lot of funny skits back in 20 tens. But I was maybe 8 or 9. I used to watch her, and she had a lot of skits where she would impersonate her Indian parents and they had Indian accents, so she'd do the accent.

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Now, me not knowing that mimicking people of a different races accents could be perceived as offensive or racist. When talking about parts of her videos I found funny to my parents. Mostly I'd recreate the accent, not trying to mock anyone, but just because I found the skits funny. Now, obviously years later, I know this isn't okay, but I feel really guilty.

01:03:47:13 – 01:04:09:01
So my dilemma is should I feel bad for this even though I didn't know nor was trying to offend anyone when I was 8 or 9? I'm very hyper aware about different acts of racism now years later, so that's why it's very upsetting to me that despite no ill intent, I did that. I don't know if this is really a dilemma.

01:04:09:02 – 01:04:29:14
No, but forgive yourself. It's funny. Yeah, no one remembers that. And and even if they do, is the consequence, innit? You can say what you want. What's the consequence here is that people might remember you doing weird racist bit you still ages ago, but you don't do anymore. It's not that deep. Yeah I mean have you ever done the can you like in your mind?

01:04:29:16 – 01:04:51:04
Are there any times that have you. I've done an accent. Well, I mean, done an accent or done a thing where you just feel like, oh, it's a bit. Well, accents are off limits, Rick. See, this is this is a great. This is great, this is great. This about punching down. Yeah, yeah. I've always had this theory that I'm scared to outside of the WhatsApp group.

01:04:51:06 – 01:05:18:06
Like I go, can you punch down to Chinese people? Like they're literally one of the most powerful nations on earth? It depends what you are. Depends what the bit is. What is your bit? I ain't got a bit. I'm right, I reckon. I reckon if you're doing a Chinese accent while ordering the Chinese. Probably on dodgy ground there.

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Yeah for sure. Whilst ordering the Chinese. Yeah for sure. Yeah. And also it will even even with you move in the idea of having a Chinese. If you use a Chinese accent there you're better. Yeah. But if you're talking about China's nuclear program, you're probably fine. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Like Kim Jong UN seems to be the butt of a lot of people's jokes.

01:05:41:16 – 01:06:02:19
And no one would you mind? Isn't he Korean? No, no, I know he's North Korean. I'm not confusing to. I know that he's not. Why are you doing this? I'm, you know, not moved. You know, you're making the suggestion that I didn't know that he. I thought he was Chinese. I don't think I know he's North Korean sake.

01:06:02:21 – 01:06:29:06
I think, I think he, Why would. Sorry. God, no. No, no. So. Well, what, like what? I try to as a 42 year old man, and I would. I don't think I'll ever understand the rules to the game, but, like, it's okay when we do a South African accent. See if you feel fine. Fantastic accent.

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France. I love it so much. But then if you were to do any other accent, I don't know. If I don't know Canadian accent now, I wouldn't feel comfortable. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's both Africa. Yeah. Like do Somalian accent. I wouldn't know how to do Somalian accent if you had to try it. Just try. No. Never doing that.

01:06:51:18 – 01:07:18:00
Yeah. No, don't do that. But the, the, Yeah. No you're right. But the thing is, I think what it is, is, is if it's white, it's right. All right. So self qualifications, are you thinking about white certificates when you say that you can say whatever you want about anyone in Scandinavia. It doesn't matter if it's racist towards Scandinavians because their, their quality of life is so good that you're allowed to take the piss out of them like a good friend.

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Mark Nesbitt, who? Yeah, he's the least scanned. I look more Scandinavian than he does. And he was actually born and raised there. Yeah. So we can do as much as we can make fun of Mark. Or can we? Because he's short and ginger and he's got crosses as well. He's especially Bellamy. Yeah he is. He's got he's got a lot of, things going on.

01:07:40:11 – 01:07:57:04
So yeah, I like that accent thing. I've always found it a bit, I don't know, like what? What can you do? What can't you do. So just stay clear of it. So I just thought that, dilemma, which I know, interestingly, I think you can do a Jamaican accent.

01:07:57:06 – 01:08:09:21
I think he might be right. Yeah, I think I'm not going there. You just in case you can't. But I think, and I've got this wrong. But I think he can I think things like you could do a South African. I think you can do a Jamaican accent.

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01:08:12:14 – 01:08:34:03
Mexican. Mexican. Feels like there. What? There's an interesting. Right. It's an interesting one. You know, there's a skit and I don't know who what the intention was behind it, so I don't I'm not supporting this person. But he made an interesting, TikTok where he dressed up in a sombrero and, and a Mexican hat, and he went around asking people, is it offensive, what he's wearing?

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And he obviously went to people who, just walking on the street, white people, black people, whatever. And I'll say, is this offensive? They all they all said, yeah, you're appropriating their culture. It's not your culture. You shouldn't do that. Which all made sense. And then he went to the Mexican define it's offensive. And they're like, no, we love it.

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It's interesting in here the or did he just edit in the ones that said they loved it and not the ones I didn't love it. We don't know. But this is this assume that the if the culture that you're appropriating is a fan of it, then are you really appropriating the cultural are you celebrating the culture? That's the thing.

01:09:09:19 – 01:09:34:15
Tricky one. Yeah, it is a tricky one. I mean, I would probably say if you're celebrating, then it's fine if you're doing it because. So a friend of ours started up, a friend of ours started up a, a Mexican food stall. Oh you're right. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah. And I said, where some Saberi 100 year for you.

01:09:34:15 – 01:09:59:09
So. Yeah, I'm a big hot. Yeah. What's the, the thing that goes over, you know, the poncho. Yeah, I was embarrassed. That isn't it. I was thinking so poncho mustache. Yeah. Some sombrero. Yeah. So is it Mexican food? Yeah. When he was I know I don't I don't feel comfortable doing that. I don't resort it's marketing. No, people might find it.

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And I was like, you got to do it anyway. Oh, I'm not doing it anyway. It's bad enough that I'm making money off food.

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Take the piss out of the way they dress as well.

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I think. Yeah, I think that's the right something I do, you know. This one's a bit.

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Something, you know.

01:10:26:21 – 01:10:57:01
It was 2001. I was in my third year at university. I was well away from home. I lived in student digs on the outskirts of the town. My third year, I found a room in a house already occupied by two fellow students, by females. To begin with. We all got along great and everything was a good laugh. Towards the end of my time at university, things suddenly took a bit of a sour turn when they both started stealing from me.

01:10:57:03 – 01:11:21:06
It's why is this so prevalent at university? When they say stealing, I bet it's food. Is it food? Yes. It started with real menial things like toilet roll and toothpaste, which I always kept in my room, but it soon escalated to them eating my food and ripping bass out of the fridge. The final straw came when money started going missing.

01:11:21:06 – 01:11:44:22
I'd left lying about in my room. When I confronted them, they just denied it and they both turned on me and started spreading rumors about me. They made up at our local boozer. I was never sure, but apparently they told girls that I like down the pub, that I had an STD and they stayed away from me. 000 complete ballocks.

01:11:44:24 – 01:12:12:08
But this was the final straw. Time for revenge as they just helped themselves to my food. I started buying these cheap pizzas from Tesco. I'd bring them home unopened and leave them in the ER and cupboard for a week or so, then chucked them in the freezer. They would come home battered from late nights out, choc a frozen pizza in the oven, then gorged himself stupid on what was now moldy pizza.

01:12:12:10 – 01:12:35:06
Being a bit worried I was going to kill one of them, I moved on to more subtle modes of revenge. So every morning before going out to lectures, I'd have a shower and a quick wank into one of their shampoo bottles. It got a bit tricky trying to aim my man juice into the small aperture of the bottle, so I invested in a small funnel from the pound shop.

01:12:35:08 – 01:13:00:17
So every morning before heading out, I'd quickly chop up the shampoo with my savings over from the past past 24 hours, they never said anything or possibly even notice. But the internal pleasure I got from seeing them both out and about, knowing my little soldiers were stuck in their hair brought me great pleasure. I left uni that year and never heard from either of them ever again.

01:13:00:19 – 01:13:23:03
I will always remember that for as long as I live and that is something. Until now, only I know you know what someone did when I was at university. I bought a whole chunk of cheddar cheese. Nothing. I mean, that is like gold. When you university opened it and someone had just bitten a chunk at the corner. Like you can see the teeth on.

01:13:23:05 – 01:13:42:16
Boy oh, boy, what is going on here? That's barbaric. That is that is fucking. That's not on the on where I live, about six people. I have no idea. And you're a vegetarian. It's like one of the only things you can eat. Do you know what I mean? Not. Well, now, I wasn't actually a vegetarian then. It was that you turned vegetarian.

01:13:42:16 – 01:14:08:09
Yeah. Yeah, it was that year, 2000. The 80,000, I think. Oh, 1999. I remember just one bit about that house, 27 Peacock Terrace. You can actually go and Google that on, on, Google Maps, see where I live, how you spell blue Dot the doc. Okay, okay. That was because it was converted into student house.

01:14:08:09 – 01:14:30:08
There's, like, free toilet cubicles in one room. Yeah, it was weird. And we would been out the night before, and I done the worst. All the worst smelling shits I've ever been, like, even, you know, like, you know, everyone, generally, you call your own stench, right? Yeah. Yeah, this was abhorrent and had just finished. Not like coke be.

01:14:30:12 – 01:14:40:05
This is just in its. I can't think of the worst possible smell you can make. Yeah. And just as I,

01:14:40:07 – 01:14:58:18
Just as I was coming down the stairs, bearing in mind the hallway led to a stairway that led directly into the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah, mate. Dave knocks on the door. May I just passing. I am busting for a piss. Can I just use your toilet?

01:14:58:20 – 01:15:12:15
Oh, yeah, but go crack. It was. And upstairs was watching. And as soon as he went, it turned and was like that led.

01:15:12:17 – 01:15:40:04
Light. As it turned around like that, I was like on the floor. Yeah, it was a Ginger Dave. Yeah, yeah. We have you. What was the last time you spoke to him? Before? I called him about a call him about a year ago. He really does like landscape gardening now in, down in Cornwall. Two kids and a wife.

01:15:40:04 – 01:15:57:16
Yeah. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? Like when I was at university, I had three really strong friends for Reed. Yeah, we had Adam and we had Dave, and we all lived in a house. Well, I actually lived in a different house, but I spend all my time in the house, and we were so tight we'd go out together.

01:15:57:16 – 01:16:19:13
We went there for like two and a half years and then university stopped. And then you're like, that's it, and friendship's gone. Like, I spoke to free the other day and it was, I, I don't know, it's not so much time and living that's happened that, you can't what you in your mind space. You're still 20 University.

01:16:19:15 – 01:16:38:18
Yeah. What you realize when you're talking to them is that they're not that. Yeah, yeah. I always like when I did. You still feel like that connection to them? Like when you. You're back there? Was it. We're just too old. It just meant that I just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like you were catching up after you caught up.

01:16:38:18 – 01:17:00:05
What do you. What do you talk about? You don't know anything about it. So. Yeah, I always like I always find it weird. Not weird, but I always sit and think. When you've been working somewhere at a place for five years or wherever, and you spent more time with them than you would your actual family or being at your house or whatever?

01:17:00:09 – 01:17:23:23
Yeah. You're all in this kind of thing together, pulling in the same direction. And then when you leave, you never speak to them again. And like, you used to go on lunch, go, go out for lunch or after work beers or, you know, going to fucking some event with these people. But, you know, you're upset because you've had an argument where you're misses and you're talking to one of these people, what should I, you know, all these different things.

01:17:23:23 – 01:17:41:16
And then just like that, it's like, never talk to them again. I mean, I mean, you're there. Yeah. I guess that's like like real friendships. Are they. They just work. No, they work friendships. But then you're all people that you do meet and they stay friends, you know. Oh, that was a that was a friendship like I. Yeah.

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The.

01:17:46:14 – 01:18:08:08
That's why you knew, like, Bull Street was such a good place when I was working there, as everyone was laughing and everyone maintained friendships pretty much since then. Yeah. So, visual art arch nemesis, James Walker. He's not my arch nemesis. It can't go that that boy. Cool. He's everywhere. He's he's everywhere. He's grafting. He's everywhere grafting.

01:18:08:10 – 01:18:31:11
He doesn't. He never stops. Right. So the topic for next week is things that no longer exist. Work, friendships. Yeah, a lot of friendships. If you've got any of those that you want to email across to us, do so. Lads, unknown pod, gmail.com. And until then, we will see you next Monday. Yep.