#114 | Charlie Kirk | What Is Going On With The World?

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Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. Everyone, you. Everyone around here. I think a ticket group. May like I know, obviously in the WhatsApp group, there's jokes about tickets and codes and all that. But I know how much you love Radiohead, and it's like you want someone so bad to get what they want.

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Of, like, whether it was me going for Oasis tickets or whether it's you going for Radiohead tickets or whatever it might be. And I was like, just, I hope he's able to get his hands on it. Yeah, I didn't. It's, It can't be bad. Really. You can't be. You can't be mad. You can't be. Can't be like, what they did was the fairest way.

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Like I someone people have got to miss out. And so this time it's me, I guess. But, you know, I don't know what's happened with buying tickets and always like in the States, people listen to is what it's like in the States when, say, Oasis toured, was it easy to get tickets or was it impossible? Was it like it is here where you just feel like there is zero chance?

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I genuinely didn't believe one moment I was going to get ready with tickets. I didn't. I hoped, I mean, I, I, I went 14 years on the bounce not getting Glastonbury tickets. Every other, every other wanker under the sun seems to be getting. But me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but they did sign a post. This very convoluted way of getting these tickets for Radiohead.

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But yeah, to go to 4 or 5 different stages. So yeah, I didn't get them. But I bought my Sammy Verjee tickets this morning. That was easy enough. I really it's actually really deja. Yeah, yeah. So garage. The garage. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. Yeah.

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I don't like kids like him. The kids like him. So we got we got tickets for that. And, you know, I'm trying to engineer it so that she takes a friend, and I, you know, I don't have to go, but it's over 18, so they're only ten, and I, Oh, fuck. Yeah. So, Yeah, I don't know, man.

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It seemed like when we were kids that we just get tickets. If you want to go and watch something, we just get tickets. Arctic Monkeys? Yeah. How easily we went see Arctic Monkeys and Tame Impala and. Yeah, and Frenzy Park just bought tickets. Yes. Let's get to him. All right. Yeah. And then that was it. What is happening?

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I don't know, like there is something happening and that might might sound fucking tin hat, but a lot of tickets recently that I've tried to get, I don't know. Yeah. Other people that I know that people have been successful, but it just feels like that the like for instance, I was on C tickets the other day trying to get tickets.

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I can't remember what I was trying to get tickets for, but tickets went on general sale at 930. But if you get there at 9:00, you can join a queue for the waiting room. Not to buy tickets, but there's a queue 30 minutes that you can join. So then you join that and you're like, right, I'm in the fucking queue at 9:00.

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Tickets don't go on sale until 930. Then they pull down like the curtain at 930. Go and get your tickets and it loads up number 120,000 in the queue. And you're like, how is that happened? Like, yeah, why am I so far back? Like where? Like how are these people getting tickets? Like I just don't I so I did a pretty so this is the other thing that's bothering me.

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This is proper and another thing. Yeah. Good, isn't it? This is this is something that bothers me. What the fuck? What's a presale like? What do they. What is it? It's just. What is it? Ricky? I don't understand why. Release a presale. What does it do? Oh, well. Oh, if you're a proper fan. Yeah, you'll you'll get involved in the pre-sale, but.

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Well. So hang on a minute. There's the proper fans fighting over less tickets before the actual general sale where there's more tickets. What is going on, what is a presale? And I'm starting thinking about it. I thinking about a record, I'm like, I know what this is. Hang on a second. Let me just play this. All right? Gun.

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And another thing, who does it belong to? And another friend. Yeah. Couldn't agree more than I have a thing. Oh, yeah. No, I didn't have a thing. Oh. Oh, shit. I like I just played the another Thing jingle. The socket. Yeah. It's. Of course I say. Now, what was I saying? Well, the, the presale is just to get your information.

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It's to get your email account. So. Yeah, this is all I can tell you about all the other bands that they're playing. Oh, you might want to buy this ticket. So now I just want to take care. I don't want to give you my information. I know what you're fucking doing, you slags. But I want the tickets. I to do everything you're asking me to do.

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Not presale as well. They're like, if you buy the album then you get like you can have a little presale and it's like, well, fucking I'm just going to Spotify. Leave me alone. Oh shit. I if I buy the album, give me a ticket. Like, don't I know I'll buy the ticket as well. But just counting on me, I'll buy the album if he guarantees me a ticket.

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But anyway, yeah, I want to be guaranteed access to the presale now. One that, So no one buys albums anymore. Sammy Verjee. No. Yeah. Yes. Oh, it's. Well, if you're no t customer oh t priority getting a. Yeah, yeah, I have an O2 customer I got a are there tickets are there. Fuck they fucking lies.

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I think it's anywhere you go. Yeah. No. And then you go on Twitter and everyone's going, I've got my ticket. Go. Did you fix the. Let me show you cunt screengrabs on Instagram Story with a little barcode. Like if I did, I oh I'm go fuck you stealing tickets. Yeah. I'm, I've been, for three years of them.

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Never been. And you've been six times and you're eight years old. Yeah. That's. I understand why I keep missing out and don't get it. Anyway, the, I think I'll find a way. I will find a way to getting into Radiohead. I've got some. I've got some connections and people that I know that probably will be able to get me in, but it's just going to cost a lot more money anyway if there is.

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Yeah. If there is anyone, listening to this that has connections at, Ticketmaster or the O2 anywhere. Anywhere. And this is just for Radiohead. This is, you know, tickets in general. Let us know. Hook us up. Yeah. Hook us up. Be be good people. All right. Yeah. Good surprise. Jingle that. Yeah. Go on.

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Always the same row on all the social channels you can, you know, find us anywhere. Now I want to, preface this podcast before we start, I said, and I've put it out there, that we're going to be doing a pod on, our worst purchases. I'm just telling everyone that I was going to we were going to do the pod on worst purchases.

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What was your worst purchase? Just quickly. My worst purchase I've ever made is it was actually, it's not that big, but I felt crestfallen because it was for the chili Festival at Waddesdon Manor. Now, I thought I was going to a huge festival of, like, different types of chili, Konkani and food and nachos, you know, all of that stuff.

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And it was actually just the vegetable of chilies. I just, I was fucking, you know, right there. And it's just these different chili. Yeah. But you thought it was a chili to be like, yeah. That's funny. I, I was so fucked up. I was with my mom and sister said we had a nice day out, but I was fuming.

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No. Did you stay around or do you just leave? Yeah. I think the whole day they did have, like, different, chili sauces, chili jams. But that's not what I was there for. I thought there was going to be, you know, like in America where they have the, you know, hot eating contests and not the hottest chili con carnies or, oh, it's fucking chicken wings and shit like that.

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I thought it's going to be something like that. But no, no, it was just fucking the actual vegetable day. Have you seen them? Have you seen these? The TikTokers do the Dave's Hot Chicken challenge with the Reaper chill Reaper chicken tender. Yeah, I think so. You got it in the UK. Now you can do it in the UK, right.

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How are you? If he and chilies are, I love heat. My stomach doesn't obviously. Yeah, but what I will say is me saying I love, hate. That doesn't mean to say that I will go to a curry and get a vindaloo or something like that. Yeah, I'll make a hot one. What would sit there with a smile on my face like, oh, this is, this is lovely because you cannot taste it.

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You can't. It's fucking ridiculous. The heat. Yeah. I, I might I wouldn't say my tolerance is very high at all. I would say I could go for. Like a two hour, a middling. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Medium heat. I can see the air is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a cow phrasing with the heat. Like if you had a cold.

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You know, people say eat hot food like a cow phrase. He would be one that you can that could blast the cobwebs away. Yeah. So that's about as hot as I will go. But I I've told you, I've, I've told you this story but just quickly went. So curry house round here. No they're not none of them are very good to be honest.

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They're not great. But yeah there is one could have Ellie which is not into is out of town. You have to drive to get it and that just for some reason, the minute you put it in takeaway containers and bring it home, you've lost half the experience. I think you just. Yeah. Yeah. Just doesn't it. If you if you were going to have a curry, go down and sit down and have a curry.

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And when you go and sit in this place and it's just this house in the middle of nowhere that they've turned into a curry restaurant and you go down, it's the easily the best curry I've had in Wiltshire. Right. And it's about 20 minutes from where we are. Anyway, it was in another one called One Spice in Devizes, which isn't the best in any shape or form, but I think anyone, any ones that I like, one spice, they add spice to it, you know, it's like, it's that easy.

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Yeah. Oh, I can phone in this in, lads. Yeah, yeah, it's like, call it particularly surname. Something like that. Yeah, yeah I don't know. But yeah. One spice, it's like oh everyone would understand anyway. And my mate had a vindaloo and I was just out of curiosity. I was, I just wondered how hot it was. And it was a meat one.

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So I just got some of my naan bread and dipped it in and it. Yeah. And it was just one bit so. And I was like, actually that is quite tasty and I can handle the heat. Maybe I'm a bit of a baked dog in it. I can handle spices. Yeah I do, yeah, I got a bit of a sense of confidence about this, and I genuinely thought it was much tastier than the curry that I had, which was a, I can't remember, so boring.

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And so the next time we went or something. Yeah. You know, you could, but to be honest, it Indian food is there's a lot of vegetarian stuff, isn't there? Because it's so much of the time is vegetarian. So and I was like, I'm going to try it. I'm going to get a vegetable vindaloo the next time I went.

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I don't have a tolerance. As it turns out, the spice, the small amount I ate on my I ate on that night. It wasn't a test. I don't know what happened, but it oh, when I actually ate the curry as a vindaloo on itself, I got about how many little half of a sweating. My ears were ringing and itching at the same time.

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My hands were tingling. I couldn't see properly and I just felt awful. Yeah, when you have bad heat like that, it's like. It's like you coming up on a pill, like your heart's racing. You're sweating. He can't sit still. You just wait around like that. You know? This is all this is. This is nothing you can do. The rolling back, you're like fucked.

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Yeah. You got to ride it out, right? That's easily one of my, surprising stories that, I don't know if I'm misremembering, but didn't you do something at Bow Street where you lost a bet? Yeah, yeah. Caroline raper I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't. It's not like I would. I did a bet on who's going to eat the.

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It wasn't something I agreed to do or I was happy to do. It was just I felt like I was just put on the spot a little bit because it was all being recorded. So yeah, we're doing these series. It was like transfer deadline day thing up in Liverpool and they were coming up with some interest because obviously how much can you talk about transfers?

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They're not happening. So let's find other ways to fill it. So they had these sort of games between North the North Pole Street and the South Pole Street was where we from. And one of the ones was I, I lost the bet or lost the game and I had the forfeit was to eat the second hottest chili known to man and still do my job on that day.

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And I did it and it killed me. It was horrendous. And then they made me race some mad Scouser. Lots of race him in the car park. It. I'm literally dying inside and then I've got to race this geezer.

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But that is stupid. But it sounds fun though it wasn't. So it was. That was my job at one stage with a dickhead. What are we talking about? Right? Yeah. Today we were going to stop now, and that's that's what drives. Enjoy the jokes. Yeah. Enjoy it. Enough, Africa. Now, what was happening there? So we were going to talk about our worst, purchases, as you heard one of mine.

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But we will do that next week, so we'll do that next week. But I felt like if we did mention, Charlie Kirk, then it's hard to not stop talking about it. Do you know? I don't know if that makes sense. That's my complete sense. Yeah. All I say before I start, Charlie Kirk, I'll just. I think everyone knows who Charlie Kirk is, but Charlie Kirk was an American conservative political activist, author, and media personality.

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He co-founded the conservative organization Turning Point USA, which recruits field representatives at universities and high schools in all 50 states to create forums for right wing discussion on the economy, race, religion and other issues. It's most known for his Prove Me Wrong events, where he would go to colleges and debate students about economy, race, religion, and other issues.

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He was seen by many American conservatives as a future president. Right. So and I'm fairly sure most people have seen video clips of Charlie Kirk where he is going to, as I said, to colleges to debate students and other people about his his views and rather shockingly, he was killed at one of these, debates in I think it was at Utah.

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I think it was, in which he was attending, and his wife and children were also at this event, and I, I can, as you know, a lot I can look at disgusting things on the internet. I'm like, I'm just desensitized to it. Oh, yeah. But when I heard the news and I was like, okay, he's been shot.

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It doesn't say he's been killed or anything like that. I was, and then I was like, then I saw the video. Did you go look on the video? No I didn't no, no, no, no, I just spread around quite quickly. There's no way that very quickly. And first of all, I saw a video of the event and loads of people running, and I thought, what the fuck's that?

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So I think I clicked on that, trying to read up on it, and then it scroll to the next video, and then it was like, bang, there, there it was. And I saw the video and I even me was kind of really taken aback. And I think the next 24 hours, for eight hours, I've just been it's been playing on my mind.

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Like I just think it's fucking like, how do we get here? It's just so incredibly sad and and like, I know, right? And I'm not going to turn this into a, right wing, left wing or try not to right that right wing, left wing. He believed in this. He believed in that, like he said, some abhorrent stuff.

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And people on the left say abhorrent stuff. And but for what you kind of believe politically and what you debate about and say being killed for it is just obviously not honest fucking mental. Yeah, I am yeah. It's it's rank. The whole thing's rank. Look, we live in a society where you're able to articulate yourself in a way that could offend people.

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But as you're right, the freedom of speech is important. But we also live in a in a society that.

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You know, there are consequences also for what you say. But you can go out there. I can go out there. Right? I could be as racist as I want it to be. But I have to understand that there's consequences that someone might take exception and want to punch me for. If I'm if I'm out on a night out and I'm, you know, being unnecessarily crude to a woman, she might want to slap my face.

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Yeah. And the problem that in isolation is something you can handle, right? Because you're, you know, you've created this scenario, but there's one person in front of you, you can see them, and you, you know, you can even talk it down, apologize or take the punch. But in these circumstances become so, so well known. And he's so punchy and he's educated and he's so he was smug with it.

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And yet he was steadfast in his belief. So he knows he would have known that he was winding people up the wrong way. Yeah. And it takes one person he's willing to give up everything as this guy guy did to to make a point. But I don't accept. And what I don't enjoy and makes me feel sick is the kind of gloating smugness that you've got from the left hand side.

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The left side. Now? Yeah, I don't like that you can disagree with someone. You can think that they're damaging in their in the society, but no one should be shot in front of their wife and kids. Regardless of whether you how upset you are about what he says. And he's he's right to say that. And it's your right to be to say what you want to say.

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But murdering someone, it's like the other guy. The other thing I don't really get as well, Eric, is the how, you know, I don't know what the word is evangelized. Or is it made to look a hero? The guy who, shot the insurance guy in the back recently? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the, farm farmer dude.

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Oh, yeah. And he's made to look like he's like a hero because he shot an insurance. But I'm not saying the insurance guy isn't a scumbag and a piece of shit, but wherever we arrived in society where somebody murdered someone in broad daylight, and then here. What's the word I want to look for confidence. He had. He had a mural painted for him.

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And that's just like, yeah, that's. Yeah. That's a that is a that's a really good point. And as well like what you were saying about, People that are gloating and reveling in it, like I went on to blue Sky after and I've been to, you know, other places, but it seems like that this place that we've arrived in whereby, like, Charlie Kirk, where you are so polarizing with your views or and how you say that and, and what you do with that, and it's obviously crept up and put out, but people know that this is the, you know, the social currency now.

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And how will you get, notoriety, how you get big accounts, how you get engagement, how you get money. And people are just getting further and further extreme to be able to, I kind of believe, capitalize on that. So that was what I was doing, though, Rick, I think it's true. You know, there was a him. Yeah, there are people that do it.

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Yeah, sure. Like he's not he's not he's right. What's her name? What's her name? Who are we talking about? Fucking speech. I can't remember name Katie Hopkins. Yes, yes, that fucking bitch. Okay, you over the, If that isn't what he was doing, I think I didn't agree with his politics, and I did. I could see why people were rattled and he would often target people that weren't capable of debating him and that.

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Yeah, and I appreciate it's, a he created a free platform, didn't he? He said you can. Yeah, you can come and you can ask me any question you want. But he's pre-loaded with answers. He knows this inside and out. And it's only a couple of times where he's come unstuck. And generally what he gets put in front of him are kids who are angry or idealistic and not have not had enough life experience and enough experience in debating in these forums, and he made a lot of them look silly.

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Yeah, they tied them up because he's brilliant, that he was brilliant at what he did. But yeah, sorry. This was about this currency. He's talking about currency. Yeah. That's right. So there's been like, a lot of other accounts where people are reporting on, Charlie Kirk's death and they're grinning and saying, oh, what a bad thing that a right, you know, person has, you know, this, Republican and, like, laughing about it and stuff like that.

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And because they know that, it's going to get clicks and it's going to get shared and it's going to be like, what? What happens to us, you know, I mean, like, I can't like I understand, right? People, say match it. Right? And I know people understand the landscape that we live in. If you're a football pundit or, you know, a football content creator and you say some mad stuff, you're going to get clicks and stuff like that.

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I, I get it. But like to celebrate someone's death in that manner, like within hours of it happening, it's just fucking repulsive, man. Yeah. I'm like, I'm kind of like, you know, on the political spectrum, I would probably say no, I see it on the left, but like, there was no fucking chance. And I was like, I was like, really saddened by what happened.

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Not shook, actually, if I'm honest, because I just can't believe that someone would do something like that. And like you saying that, you know, the arrogance of him smarmy, just he he knew what he was doing and how to do it, but to to do that, it's just it was political opinion as well. Right. It's trumpet. It lived in a world with Trump is return to the white House.

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So it gives people like him a platform and that freedom to say the things he wants to say. But he's also it it's politics. He's talking about politics. He's talking about society. And he has an opinion on it based on his background. You don't die for that. You don't get murdered because you have an opinion. You don't unless it's, you know, beyond the pale to the point where it's you're mobilizing millions of people and causing the death of millions of others.

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You know, it's you should be able to articulate yourself in a way that you want to without fear of being shot in the throat in front of your kids. It's just not right. It isn't. That's not what it's not how, civilized, you know, society should operate, but you will always. It's not like the first time it's happened.

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It won't be the last. Trump was tried to be shot. You know, they tried to shoot Trump. And what happens? You see what happens when Charlie Kirk is murdered, right? It's he's, martyred. Right? He's opinions. Everything he said now carries more weight than they ever did. Yeah, it divides people even further and creates more and more problems.

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And, and that's where we find ourselves. And that's why I don't watch the news. Did you see the, footage? Video? Yeah, I did see it. And now my fucking Instagram algorithm is all fucking violence. And dying. You also stuff. Yeah. Oh, there's a woman got stabbed in the neck. Did you see that one? The woman got stabbed in the neck on a bus.

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Just this little. Yeah. Go. You what? The Ukrainian lady? Yeah. What? Ukraine was it? No, he's in America, but she was Ukrainian. She was just sitting on a bus, and the bloke behind the pulled out a knife and stabbed her in the neck. Yeah. And there's footage of her a bit after she stabbed. I haven't seen that.

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Never look at. I didn't want to say that. I didn't want to say it. I thought it was fucking Ardrey. I am odd, but I don't know what's happened to you, mate. That is. I'm just, Just give me just just give me BMX and people breaking their ankles. That's fine. I think I'd rather watch some of the stuff than that.

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Mate, it's terrible, man. But, like, what I. I need to go back to the, the, like, reveling, what I found so repulsive, and, yeah, I get it. But, like, he let me first let me find you the, I've got it here. So he's, views on gun rights, gun deaths. He said it's worth, it's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our God given right.

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Yeah. And then. No. Sorry. He's dead by from by gun. Right. That he would be okay with this. Like, do you think that he would I think he would still say yes, this is acceptable. Do you know what I and this is going to sound, I don't really know much about it, but I feel like this has been taken out of context.

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Like, I feel like he would say what he did say this, that, like having a having a gun is to protect your, your other rights. So like, if someone, if there's an intruder, it's to say that the only people in the country don't have guns is the government. Everybody has guns. We can raise an army. We can overthrow your.

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That's what it is. It's my right to bear arms. Do you remember? It comes from. And our American listeners will know this because of this. You know that is their history. Yeah, but when when the amendments. What is it that is it. Ten. I can't remember what I'm trying to say now, but the amendments were written. It was when America was being formed.

00:30:48:04 – 00:31:10:11
So it's like John Adams and Washington. Yeah. And it was about, I guess it was about the spread of, power and that if, if every if a countryman can, can bear arms and they can never be truly dominated by a dictator because they have the means to rise up against the, right. Okay. Yeah, that's the idea.

00:31:10:11 – 00:31:37:16
That's why they're so passionate about it. Right? I, I'm like, I, I'm sure I've butchered that. And I'd love to know what the actual the details were behind it without people politicking but yeah. Yeah, yeah I mean so the, the, I mean I don't know, I don't know whether he would be like, well, I mean he's obviously now dead from a gun, so he probably may change his mind.

00:31:37:16 – 00:32:01:15
He would have changed his mind after that. But this is my point is I think he would have accepted that as a part of I think he people have saying like, yeah, I'll let you said that. No, you're dead. And that there is obviously there's an Irish irony in that, but I think he would accept his own death if it wouldn't change his opinions on Second Amendment, like if he if his kid had been shot, he probably wouldn't change his opinion on it.

00:32:01:16 – 00:32:20:13
I mean, yeah, maybe I don't know. So but yeah, I mean, I, I always thought it was about, you know, just, protecting yourself and that right to protection. And so that's your right to have a gun, to be able to protect yourself and your family and him being shot like that is not protecting yourself. That kind of murder.

00:32:20:15 – 00:32:54:13
But people were holding this quote up of him as to say, you know, reap what you sow. Yeah, sucks to be you, that kind of stuff. And I always just thought, man, I there's a time and a place and like, it's just, just found it. So. Yeah. Like, where are we going as a society? I think I've said that, like, what is happening and the more kind of further along that we get, I do kind of question what, what the fuck is it that we're, that we're doing now?

00:32:54:13 – 00:33:26:04
And it's just I find it. So like I couldn't go on my phone yesterday after it, because every time I opened Instagram or, you know, there was a different angle, there was a different commentary and was like, right, that this means civil war in the United States. And then on the other side, it's like, right, we've looked across the pond, this is going to come to Britain, you know, Britain first, and we need to protect ourselves and we need to get rid of these, snowflake, you know, all these different, you know, terms.

00:33:26:04 – 00:33:57:05
And the same with the right, you know, Tommy Robinson and all that. Like, it's just become on the political kind of scale that everyone is so, what's the word I'm looking for? Just so kind of, polarize in on their sides that it's so extreme. That's the word of mouth. Voice is extreme. Like the further you are to being extreme and the loud you are on how extreme you are, the more your voice carries weight and travels.

00:33:57:09 – 00:34:22:18
Yeah, because the how goes people will share it, people will DM each other and all that a lot. And that might not be where your resting place is politically, but I know to be able to get what I'm trying to get across, I have to be fucking mental about it and not say to match it. And that's not just about politics, is people like everyday, people like Bonnie Blue.

00:34:22:20 – 00:34:44:07
Yeah, fucking light up a thousand geezers and I'll get smashed in in 24 hours. Like, I don't know whether that's actually happening or not. But the further she says more mad shit like that that that heavily travels across social media, that gets her more views, more money, more clicks, more notoriety. And it works in the political field.

00:34:44:07 – 00:35:10:22
It works. And, you know, football content creators like, where does that end? You know, I mean, like, in how extreme and opposing that your views get to be able to, grab some of that, digital landscape to, to kind of have that. Right. This is my niche. I'm going to stay here and do this. It's about creating an audience, isn't it?

00:35:10:24 – 00:35:33:16
An audience is valuable. And in media, regardless of how you get it, you can monetize it. So, you know, you might say that the the audience of people that watch Blue Planet, you know, quite wholesome, a valuable but no less valuable than the people that subscribe to Bonnie Blue's only fans. Yeah, probably. You know, man for man.

00:35:33:16 – 00:35:59:17
Probably more valuable than blue. Okay, so it's just audience noise, the monetizing of attention. It's it's been that way for many, many years. Were you, surprised about that? How freely you could see the video on Instagram? Yeah, I was surprised. I popped up on Instagram, Twitter, I expect it, but Instagram, I was not fucking. Has it been taken down on Instagram?

00:35:59:17 – 00:36:25:10
Was it just freely up there? Nice. Freely up there. Pretty pretty gully. Instagram and Facebook for something so massive you'd expect that? Yeah. Like whereas TikTok you couldn't you would never find it onto it. So it'd be pulled down immediately. So whatever safeguarding they have in place, I don't know if it's a million, hundreds of thousands of Chinese people in, in these working on these, you know, and censoring all of this material.

00:36:25:10 – 00:36:49:03
Well, yeah. Yeah. Modifiers. Is that what I call. Yeah, I think so, yeah. That, worst job in the world I'll make. Can you imagine that? What you you've been sent to the office for eight hours a day reviewing videos of pedophilia, taking them down, you know, terrible, right? How's your day at work, love? Yeah. I only saw fucking 20 pedophile videos.

00:36:49:04 – 00:37:15:19
Jesus. I did a podcast with a digital forensic scientist, for the police. Yeah. And he was. Job was to unlock unlocked phones and computer devices and find traces of materials to build prosecution cases and have to have counseling every week because of the shit. Oh, my. That'd be fucking grim, man. Look at it. Be the worst job in the world.

00:37:15:21 – 00:37:46:23
DM on, you said you don't, look at the news, but have you have you seen any parts of the news whereby it's the de-escalating, the situation, or is it like Fox News ramping it up or anything like that? Like so I've kind of like because I had to take myself off social yesterday. Now a popped on there just to post a couple of things and jump off because it was just getting too much.

00:37:46:23 – 00:38:13:09
Do you know, I mean, yeah, like there's just so much of, point scoring from different people and the editing of different videos to make it look like this, that and the other. And I don't like, do you think, after this, do you think no matter how many times they speak about it in the US? And I get that this is two Brits talking about it, right, if you're listening.

00:38:13:11 – 00:38:36:17
But the the laws around gun reform, you know, it feels like that there's a school shooting and they're like, fuck, we need we need to reform. This can't go on. And then it goes silent. Then the next week there's another one and then another one. And it's like the it just even burying their heads in the sand or like.

00:38:36:19 – 00:39:05:21
And then something so high profile is the story reported and heard around the world. Do you think though ever have, gun reform in the US? Hot knows man I doubt it. Like a suit. There's too much. This there's too much. There's a lot of money, a lot of lobbying. As I understand it, from the NRA. And, you know, these these people that pick it, schools after shootings have happened.

00:39:05:23 – 00:39:31:18
They so desire for, you know, guns to be freely available in America is as strong as the desire for it not to be so I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I just I don't get it, I don't I don't know it, I don't know what I understand the principle of it and what it was relevant in the, in the, in the past.

00:39:31:20 – 00:39:49:18
If what I said was true about, you know, it's important that people were able to rise up and overthrow government if need be, but that's long gone. Yeah. The government can do what the fuck it wants with you, you little gun. You hang on, you all that shit, it's not gonna do anything. You ain't going to mobilize up against the government or an army, are you?

00:39:49:20 – 00:40:11:01
You just get betrayed. Yeah, but, so it's just symbolism about some symbolic. And while it's symbolic of the importance of the history of America, as I understand it, fucking kids are shooting each other fucking, you know, kids going into school and shooting it up. Play. That's probably what's stopping. That's a bit more important than having a gun, actually.

00:40:11:03 – 00:40:32:18
And what I, what I don't kind of like the, the laws around there were to do it. Like I don't understand what what what they would do. It's like make it more stricter for you to be able to purchase a gun or a powerful gun or whatever it might be, but it's like they're so prevalent in the US.

00:40:32:18 – 00:40:52:01
It's like you can just get em anywhere, everywhere. So it's not going to not only, you know, like the, the, the treaty Texas attitude, how are you going to get like you can't get it back in the you can get comes here so no one want some. You have to have a license. You have to live on a farm.

00:40:52:01 – 00:41:12:01
But you can have a gun here if you live on a farm. Shotgun. Kanye West could oppose. You can. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah he can. I don't mean you can have, like, automatic guns, like a but why would you ever need a fucking automatic right. Yeah. But yeah. You have never actually. Well, I wonder why we don't.

00:41:12:04 – 00:41:48:04
It's because the, the punishment is so. Well, it's legal. They're in it, and it's it's it's legal here, but it's, you know, if. Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? Strange? I haven't really thought about that before. We, jump onto everything else I do wanted to. I can't I feel like it's, obviously this weekend, and it's kind of, the political sphere in which we're talking about Saturday the 13th is the free speech march.

00:41:48:05 – 00:42:18:19
It's the, I don't know if it's Tommy Robinson's, free speech. Mark, I think is he's the organizer. But it's supposed to be the largest free speech march in British history, where he estimates 500,000 to 1 million people will take to the streets of London on an organized march route. I tried to find out what the march was about.

00:42:18:21 – 00:42:44:03
I couldn't really find anything. What? Truly, this message in from Tommy Robinson. What? What it's about, isn't it? Well, I mean, it's just, these, to to to, unite the kingdom, you know, the kingdom of free speech. I don't really know. Couldn't really. I was like, I was hurriedly searching, but it wasn't it wasn't quite clear.

00:42:44:03 – 00:43:10:14
I mean, we know he's, we do, we do. We know he's, you know, he's not. He's anti. I don't know if he's anti Islamic. I don't know what what. Yes, he is I think he's very much, concerned that there are people that have come to the country and haven't made any effort to assimilate into the culture, cultural or cultural elements of it.

00:43:10:16 – 00:43:52:10
Yeah. Make I mean, people disgruntled and or angry. They, they're looking for stuff to attach themselves to. And you have Tommy Robinson and and other people like him who, you know, tap into this frustration and, and and unhappiness and mobilize it. And, you know, this is how this happens all over the place, all the time. You find people are unhappy and you find a way of weaponizing those people and marking it up as something called free speech, when it's really just, you know, gathering together loads of people that are frustrated and angry about stuff, you know, how did immigration see all that?

00:43:52:12 – 00:44:10:17
I did see that, he mentioned, like the when you talk about mobilizing the, the, the, the football lads are on board and they're all come in. And I was like, oh, right. That's good. It's just like like that's not what you wanted. Kind of a peaceful protest. Yeah. Get the football Lazzaroni there. Just like brilliant.

00:44:10:17 – 00:44:41:20
And then on on that Saturday. Right. Super Saturday, you may call it. I just called it, but, yeah, Saturday, the same September, you've got Tommy Robinson, for our activist free speech march in central London. It's counter that you've got the anti-fascism group from Stand Up to Racism, and they'll be doing their counter march. Also in the capital, you have Crystal Palace v Sunderland.

00:44:41:22 – 00:45:07:05
Fulham v Leeds, West Ham v Tottenham, Brentford v Chelsea and Charlton v Millwall. That's good, I mean. But all the football had to be at the march anyway. So yeah I mean yeah at different times it's like I think the march is around 12:00 or something like that. So maybe the football like get free so that they both or whatever.

00:45:07:07 – 00:45:28:08
But that is they could be shot or stabbed by someone or something like that. In America. You'd be a risk you'd imagine, not imagine the difference against them all the time, may I? But he must get them daily. He must get them daily. And he loves a rugby as well. So obviously if you don't get in fights with people on the street.

00:45:28:10 – 00:45:51:24
Yeah. I mean, did you see that video of him in the tube station every day? Yeah, yeah. Knock some geezer out. Yeah. And he wasn't because he said it was, self-defense. I haven't seen the video. Say it. The guy must have been in front of him, and he's just fucking clotted in one. Yeah. But I like I'm going to West Ham.

00:45:52:02 – 00:46:16:08
Tottenham. I'm going to be in London. Yeah. And for me as a brown face man going into the capital when all that shit is going on. Yeah I am you know, I am fearful. I'm worried about it. Yeah. Which yeah I can imagine. Is it I mean it won't be happening at West Ham. Won't be happening at West Ham.

00:46:16:12 – 00:46:49:08
Where is it? Central London. Central London Euston certainly. It starts in, south London somewhere. Yeah. And then they're marching to government buildings or some shit anyway. But I, you know, I don't think I'll be in that area, but knowing that there's going to be a lot of football fans pissed that rowdy football fans and the, you know, did Tommy Robinson March law and the anti-fascism like there's going to, you know, a bit of a powder keg, mate.

00:46:49:08 – 00:47:23:23
Exactly. That's what I'm worried about. I'm worried about people that'll be pissed up and because of my skin color or whatever, people shouting staff or doing stuff or whatever it might be. Yeah. That, it's it's crazy that in 2025 that I would feel, what's the word? Not at ease of going out because of my skin color.

00:47:24:00 – 00:47:56:17
Born here. And it shows you a degradation in society, doesn't it, that it is on and it's undulating. This the the levels of sort of peace and and calmness dependent on the economy and political issues and people like Charlie Kirk fanning the flames and. Yeah. And sometimes it'll feel better and sometimes it'll feel worse, but you know, racism was never gone.

00:47:56:19 – 00:48:26:22
Not just it's been people have felt more comfortable by being racist now. Yeah. So I can imagine that must be, Yeah. Concerning and upsetting. Yeah. I mean, as for me, but, but it's like, the other day, like, my, you know, you were saying about, Well, I can't remember what fucking podcast be run. And you were just saying that until something directly affects you, is that your front door, then you kind of take action or you sit up and listen or whatever.

00:48:26:24 – 00:48:39:10
Yeah. And I've seen a couple of roundabouts painted around there, but it didn't really kind of, I just.

00:48:39:12 – 00:49:02:01
I dropped my, my girls off at their local bus stop. I carried on walking the route that the bus would get. And at the roundabout there were, four Union Jacks there. And I was just thought, for fuck's sake, and it's kind of like, not, I can I know why people are putting them up, and I, I, you know, understand that people are hide behind this.

00:49:02:01 – 00:49:23:12
I've just been patriotic. My, you know, it's just the flag, when you know, it's not. But then my kids, my my daughter messaged me about the flags and saying, have you seen the flags? It's like, yeah. Then having to have that discussion about what the flags are about and why people are putting them up and why roundabouts being painted fucking red in that.

00:49:23:13 – 00:49:47:01
It's just madness. And then you're on social media. It's just it's a lot too, a lot to take in. And I just feel like that maybe Saturday it might be a tipping point in some, some cases, which is, yeah. If you, is right. But if you're not on social media, you're not washing your knees.

00:49:47:03 – 00:50:06:20
You don't even know what's happening until it's true. Someone's not going to come up to you in the street, Ricky, and go, you brown bastard! If it does, you'd be so unlucky. They might think it. Yeah, they might think, but for someone to actually do something in the street is so such a rare thing. So if you don't turn, don't let your kids watch the news.

00:50:06:20 – 00:50:26:05
Don't let them, you know, on the even their algorithms are not going beyond this sort of stuff. And imagine, and you know, because it's not regardless, there's nothing you can do about it. There's no there's no change. It's going to be made. It's just going to take time to repair. And it might never repair. But most people are decent human beings, Ricky.

00:50:26:06 – 00:50:43:01
Most people are not. Yeah. The vast majority of people are not going to make your day worse. Even if they leave, they are they hold racist beliefs. I know that from being racist. Yeah, from my sis, myself. But.

00:50:43:03 – 00:51:07:12
Never my my dad says, you know, you're a case in point, right? My dad bangs on about immigration, and I sent that video the other day to myself, recorded us speaking because was around his house. Yeah, a bit pissed on why. And then we watching. We was watching the wheel or something, and, I was just laughing at my dad and, it was talking about, what was he talking about?

00:51:07:14 – 00:51:23:07
Yeah. And Helen Flanagan. Yeah. And he said she's got no tits. And I was like, what the fuck does it matter? And then she ended up winning. And Valerie went, see the matters go big tits, a little tits. She still won. Oh, I see what is going on. I feel like I'm on an episode of fucking Black Mirror or something.

00:51:23:09 – 00:51:46:02
And he also. And I asked him about. He was talking about someone doing something for charity, and he said how amazing it was. And I said, what if the if the charity was helping immigrants come to the country? And he was like, and then afterwards he when he actually reversed and went, you know what? Maybe like that it was like is not that's most people he will get wound up by these marches.

00:51:46:02 – 00:52:08:06
Right. And he will be like, then, yeah, good on a suit. It'll be good on him. But you actually put him in a real situation and get him to understand the actual impact of what's happening to people. He's good person, and he would help anyway. Yeah, yeah, I remember, you know, obviously coming as being 73, living through London, seeing it change, seeing Holloway change, which he's lived his entire life.

00:52:08:08 – 00:52:30:08
You know, from from it just being predominantly people like him to people are absolutely not like him. And in watching that change, I don't think it's a racist or offensive thing for a bit to be a little bit upset by that, not upset the individuals, but to see he's he's world changed around his ears. Yeah, it's going to rile a lot of people, not roll them up.

00:52:30:08 – 00:52:54:06
It's going to it's going to make them think a certain way. And he I remember he, you know, you can imagine how he feels about, women that wear the. Burkas. Yeah. I was trying to find the I don't think is a burger. It's a there's a ten. Yeah. There. I mean, but let's just for the sake of his position and, like.

00:52:54:06 – 00:53:13:23
Yeah, he doesn't like the litter box. You know, the actual. You can't see anything but their eyes. And, he would bang on about that. And it's not right. It's not our culture. They should be. Well, you know, and I'm glad. And then once he was walking down the street and a lady who had the full dress fell over in the street in a shopping went everywhere.

00:53:14:00 – 00:53:33:08
What did my dad do? Kick it further down the road? Yeah, it's trod on her ankle. He picked the food up and he took her home like, that's that's what he did. So he might give it the bacon about being all like, you know, that saying all this stuff and being angry. And he does come from a place of genuine frustration.

00:53:33:10 – 00:53:54:23
Yeah. But he's most people see the human being in it. It's like one of them is alright, this one's all right. Yeah, he's all right. He's one of the good ones. What is that? Rob Beckett? Yeah, we've got Romesh. Romesh, Romesh, these all right? This one is. He's one of the good ones. And that is, That conversation has been had for decades in Iraq.

00:53:54:24 – 00:54:15:08
I mean, I'm sure you, made 100%. Yeah, I've been involved in many of these conversations. Great. My one of the good ones, am I brilliant? Yeah. So that. Right, we are going to go over to, It's not a dilemma. It's not a I don't know what it is, really. It's a story that someone sent in for thought.

00:54:15:11 – 00:54:38:22
Read out. You need a jingle or something? No, no no, no, No, no, it's all right. It's called, Nothing beats a Jet2 holiday. The something I need to know for today is the Alphabet Strikes Again. The topic for next week, as we were supposed to do today. Our worst purchases ever. So any product service, a festival that you've been to?

00:54:38:24 – 00:55:03:08
Nope. It's not the same charity festival. Well, I went to, holiday. It can be anything. What do you feel shortchanged about? Send it in to lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. Also, something none of you know. Stories, if you've got any. But you might have people I speak to on Instagram. Yeah, but I must remember to say I said I was going to send that voice and I never knew where I.

00:55:03:09 – 00:55:29:01
Yeah, I never to fucking get him in. Bastards. Right. I'm going to read this story out. Nothing beats a Jet2 holiday, darling. Oh my. It's got too much now in it. Yeah, it's got too much. Yeah, yeah, just Glen in it. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. She, she said it's making her fortune. Oh fucking bet. Oh, mate, can you imagine if you had a song that went that viral and how much money it's making you?

00:55:29:03 – 00:55:50:19
But you can't be. You can't be using that trending audio if you've gone to get your coffee and it spills out your hand. I could just it's been overused. Now. It's every night I'll tell much. I'm washing money and this bloke just fell down the escalators. You're like, yeah, that's not what this is about. No, you, you can't just use the audio because you just watch someone fall down.

00:55:50:21 – 00:56:02:23
It's like Brits are bored, misbehaving and fucking fighting on airplanes. That's what he's about. Yeah. Someone falling over in the street. That's not what it's about.

00:56:03:00 – 00:56:26:19
Okay, nothing. But he's a jet ski holiday, so picture this. It's 1240 on Wednesday morning. We just landed at Stansted after a lovely week away in Cyprus. I'm half asleep dreaming about my own bed, and the flight attendant gets on the intercom and calls for Thomas Howard. Now my middle name is Thomas, but I'm thinking nah, can't be me.

00:56:26:21 – 00:56:57:09
Next thing I know, she's checking the passenger list, walking up to me and asking me to grab my bag and come with her right now. But like, step outside the plane. Boom. Three Essex Police officers waiting like I've just landed from an episode of Border Force Criminal mastermind. Please. They tell me they're looking for Thomas Howard with my exact date of birth wanted for sexual assault of a minor, but no, no photo.

00:56:57:09 – 00:57:17:02
But apparently this bloke's covered in tattoos. I, on the other hand, I'm basically a human equivalent of a blank canvas by. At this point, the entire plane can see me standing there with the police. My wife is insisting they've got the wrong guy. My kids are freaking out and crying, and I'm trying not to look too much of a criminal.

00:57:17:02 – 00:57:46:17
In case anyone's filming for TikTok or one of these nonsense, videos on Facebook, they quiz me. Where do you live? Gillingham. Where were you born? Greenwich. Which, shockingly, is not Colchester. The magic location in their notes. Then they whip out a fingerprint scanner, which doesn't work. Call back up and funny. Confirm. Nope. Not him. D arrested at 1:05 in the morning, but of course it doesn't end there.

00:57:46:23 – 00:58:07:24
I get marched to Border Force. Have to explain it all again and only then am I allowed to collect my luggage. So yeah, the perfect holiday. And in sun sea and getting publicly arrested in front of hundreds of strangers for having a name too similar like some other bloke ten out of ten would recommend nothing beats a Jet2 holiday quality.

00:58:08:01 – 00:58:39:09
Mate, can you Matt like the thing is right, they call you up and they're like, right. Drugs fighting. No sexual assault on a minor. Yeah. The worst one. So I just wanted to be a gay. Worst one to be accused of. Okay. Now. Right. We're actually going to go into something. Know, you know, now that in time, mind.

00:58:39:11 – 00:59:09:02
Wow. Something, you know, the alphabet strikes again. Being a fan of the show for a long time, a someone who'd never had sex before. When the time finally came to pop my cherry, the only guidance I could think of came from flash on, lads. Anonymous. It happened at a house party. We'd both had a few drinks, ended up staying over, and somehow ended up sharing a bit.

00:59:09:04 – 00:59:39:03
Things started to progress and before I knew it, I was going down on. The problem was, as a 17 year old virgin, I've no idea what I was doing until I suddenly remembered flaps alphabet technique. So there I am spelling away. And surprisingly, she loved it. One thing led to another and we went all the way. After about ten minutes of a drunken of drunken thrusting, I finished for a first guy.

00:59:39:03 – 01:00:01:20
I thought I did a good job. The problem with this situation I wasn't wearing anything. My plan was to pull out in the heat of the moment. That did not happen. Its plan was to pull out as a virgin. I know. I was thinking now, number one, number one, ten minutes of drunk. Now that wasn't ten minutes at number two planning to pull out.

01:00:01:21 – 01:00:29:07
I was, right. I've been, I guess, having sex since I was 18 and I'm 43. 44. Yeah. And I wouldn't be comfortable about my pullout game and, Oh, and if you're listening to this is, you can guess you can get a girl pregnant. Not before you designer. Yeah, exactly. Thankfully, she's on the pill, so fingers crossed everything is good.

01:00:29:09 – 01:00:51:06
And that's the story of how I lost my virginity. Thinking about flab and latching on. Immerse. That is something 99. I feel like I've heard that before. Really? Yeah. I don't think on here, but I think they may have. You might have written into the mailbag. I do have, read it. Yeah, maybe I did. I am because there was another person as well.

01:00:51:06 – 01:01:17:14
Hey, highly recommended your alphabet technique. I, like you should trademark it. I don't think it's mine, Rick. I don't know, I tend to try, try and try and try. Try it, try it. Well, the topic for next week is a got. I did the second time I've done this. Forgotten I worst patsies. Send them over to lads anon pod at gmail.com.

01:01:17:16 – 01:01:29:18
And if you've got any dilemmas or something on you know you know where to send it. And until then we will see you patrons Friday. Normies. Monday. Bye.