#122 | Alternative Living | Canals, Caravans & Van Life

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Here we go. When you wake up. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. What? What? Was that? I we got really weird. Where are we going? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. What? Where are we going? I don't know if Wembley, maybe, but it's, At that. Nice. It's a weird chart in there.

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Yeah. On, boy. Well, I can give you a. Here we go.

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Transfer an eight or so of. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Gary Flavell was cured. Tickets to Radiohead confirmed. Here we go. Oh! Oh, shit. Boy. When I say I have confirm and I have secured them, I haven't done anything by wonderful brother Adam might be. Listen to this, I don't know. He, he is a man of resource, right?

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And inevitably, if he wants something, he will get it. Oh, my. I don't mean like I'm not talking about, like, these powerful maniacs who just. You know, I want that woman. I'm going to take it that not that level. I'm just saying. Let's go. I was going to do that example. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Like Glastonbury tickets, you always get some Oasis tickets.

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He got them. He just finds a way. Yeah. Okay. And this time it was actually I'd given up because he'd said I just can't find them. They're just the people that would potentially hook him up. The demand is just too high. And the number of tickets available. Sorry, I'm gigs available. And it's not Oasis. It's for four gigs in each town, in each country.

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That's it. So even he had given up on kind of. No, he was he was thinking right there, go, go, I'll pay you whatever for your nice for £700 you need drop £7. Oh my lord. With the situation with the house, I can't get as much as I wanted it, I just couldn't. I have to be sensible. Yeah.

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And then these guy came through. So I'm not going to gloat or anything. I know. Annoying. That can be. Two people have got tickets. I'm just. I'm really happy because I really. I read the first review in Munich and they gave it five stars, and I was like, well, I didn't read it. I got about halfway through and I was like, this sucks.

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This fucking sucks balls. Well, I'm never going to see this. All these people having great time. Guardian journalist writing articles about I'm never going to see it and I yeah, yeah. Me so but I felt like that about Oasis. Yeah, yeah. And everyone was like, Liam's voice has never sounded so good, and I know what they've been doing.

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And I'm like, fuck you. Fuck off picking it up. Did you see, did you see? I don't know if it was real, but I saw a TikTok. Like someone attacked them on stage yesterday. Oh, my God, I've not seen that. Yeah, like Noel Gallagher got pushed over in security. Come in. And then Liam Gallagher waited in that. Is that what you're talking about?

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Yeah, that that sounds very old. Is it? And that happened I believe it happened in Canada many years ago. Oh, so it's not in this current tour. They've just on TikTok. I've made it look like it, I don't think. Yeah, that's what I think. Maybe he ran through from behind and pushed behind him in the back. Yeah yeah yeah.

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Right. Yeah. All right. That's good because it's not very nice to see that sort of stuff. Not oh my God, that's mental. But are you, just if you just got Radiohead on all the time now. Well, yeah. I was walking the dog. Just me and the tank. Willie was, was walking around leafy devices and, that someone's put together their set list from the first for the first night.

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Nice. Which was really good. But they played a different setlist the next night, so. Oh. Keeping you on your toes? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, if I had to choose one or the other out of the second night, for sure they do. Yeah, yeah, when I went to see them. So when the greatest gig of my life was Victoria Park rate Radiohead in 2008, something like that little toy in In Rainbows.

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And I remember being so happy and, you know, needless to say, full of MDMA and. Yeah, and content in that moment and listen to this pitch perfect performance. And they still sound incredible that, all I think about is that when I think about. Right. Yeah. So I want to kind of, I hope we can kind of to some degree recreate that.

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Why why was I talking about it? I was, I was so I had another point to make. But the mind anyway. Yeah, that was great. I just started fixating on that moment and then, my train of thought left me, but, Yeah. Superb, I can't wait. My heart can't wait. Oh, no no, no, that was. And in Victoria Park they, they.

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So a good friend of ours, Jack, he went on the night after all the night before. And they played a lot of stuff off their albums. I say not as popular, right, I know, and then on the night we went, they played all the bangers, which, Yeah, yeah. Okay. Kind of is kind of what you want.

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You want you want to hear all the classics if you're going to see him play live. But, I wouldn't have had a take either. Now, like, I've spent so long listening to these albums, all of them, even the ones that are not people don't consider it to be their best work. Although I don't know how you could listen to any Radiohead album, not consider it to be good.

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You know, so I'm, Well, I'm happy just to listen to and play anything. I'm I'm going to see, Babyshambles in two weeks. Yeah, but I know it's not about like. Yeah, that that the first Babyshambles. Both albums were of our youth. Although one of them. Because they've had many members. Yeah. One of them has passed since.

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That's right. Yeah. It was it. Yeah, yeah, it was very recent. Yeah, yeah. You saw the guitarist and Babyshambles play in the, where is it now? Holloway. Right. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. That's Mentos was drinking a beer. For some reason, it made us feel like I am. We called it liquid pills. Yeah. And thinking back, it was, it was, Coors Light as well.

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It was cool. Is, I don't know what, a little drunk since. I mean, may I. Oh, the time me, you and Alex are just fucking lagging. Walking back, we walked back to Crouch End. Remember? We were steaming a corner as well. Let's go, let's go. Knight. Yeah. What I wanted to ask you, did you have to suffer fire back?

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All right. I didn't go anywhere, luckily. Oh. That's good. The novel of fireworks is definitely worn out in my family, so. Great. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, if you're a kid, if you're, like, free, it must be mind blowing. Any older than 3 or 4, I think. Like, what is I don't get them like after about 90s of it you like, right.

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Can we go now, people? I know my foot for years, right? My my. Mrs.. She loves this time of year. Yeah. Halloween fireworks, big kites, chunky knitted jumpers. I know that said, it's been fucking 15 degrees for the last three days. Named beautiful beautiful outside. It was, And she is, you know, like, when you force fun on other people, you know, like, I like going to, let's just say, for example, I like going to the football.

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So I force my children if they don't like. I've got a much better example from what you do, if your family's going around looking at old shit in cities, that's forced fun because it none of that's fun. I get it. If you if it might be interesting. It's not different. Not fun. Everyone's got to go on this fucking walk along with Ricky so you can see as many things as possible.

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Anyway, yes, I understand we said have. That is absolutely me. And so my miss it. I remember there's this, you know, in my family, there's an iconic photo where my daughter was very young, maybe three or something like that, and we, the city center fireworks were the big fireworks. Everyone in their thousands in their droves, would go up to Central Mountain Kings and watch the big firework display.

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So my missus, you know, in a head we must go as the family. We must go and see this. Everyone must enjoy it. And we got there and we had a buggy for my daughter. And as soon as they start age, she pulled the, the little fall down thing that it would pull it down. She looked at me, went that I don't want this.

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I don't want this. So obviously that's not free or something. I don't want this that I don't want this, I don't want this. And I was like, no. Do I make no do I? So every year, like, we are dragged out into the cold and we're not really that fast on fireworks, but it's that family thing.

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And I've gotten away with it for the last few years. And, I mean, you don't have to go. I don't have to go, I stay indoors, my Mrs. goes with her sister, their kids, cousins, their kids. So it's, you know, it's a big group of them. And I'm just at home this year. None of the cousins and all that we're about.

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So it was just my missus in the kids, and I was like, going to the fireworks. I have a good time. Is like, I don't know what you're laughing about. You need to get your coat, and I don't do this. Don't I do this place, I hate this.

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I have to get my coat on, and it's a fucking traipse up the road. Look at that. Like you saying like fireworks. They are shit. They really are shit. But what does amaze me is how do they work? Like, how how how, like when a firework goes up, there's different colored lights as they're going up. How do they explode in different ways?

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How do they have so many different colors? How many different effects are there. So I am a bit like, okay, I get that bit. But being outside in the cold, in a park right where everyone has trodden and the mud is all slushy and horrible, you know you're treading in dog shit and leaves are now sticking to your trainers.

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And I'm just like, this is fucking shit. Get a little white chocolate though. A cup of tea. Oh, you didn't buy any mate normally. Go for the the hot donuts. Freshly hot. Damn. Yeah. The queue was outraged. Did you moan about everything when you were there but moan about the loss? You message my excuse now under my breath.

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Everything was coming out. Every single thing. But I thought I wanted to go to, you know, a park on the park that was a bit dark, away from all the burger vans and all that, because the light was interfering with the fireworks. And we moved across the park, through everyone, through the crowds. And we got there still behind a burger van.

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So it's like it's still still the lights. I don't know, it's just like. And it's, well, because it's local. My missus has worked at the school for like nine years or whatever. She knows. She knows all the fucking parents. Everyone stop stopping, I told her. And then everyone's at like the kids are calling her last name. How I miss, you know, tambourine.

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I'm just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, fuck this, this. It's that, what? You and you were just on the peripheries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At the end, I was being really kind of, just standing back with my door, just staring at my phone. I was just. I've had enough. Bad enough, you know, that social kind of interaction where you're just like this guy.

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I don't want to be here before we play the jingle. You remember we lost last, last week, we spoke about your bread buying habits and how. Yeah, you would, like, generally like medium sliced bread. Yeah. But did we talk about it on this podcast? Was it because I was going to mention this to you? Yeah, it was a little nugget, wasn't it?

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Was it okay, I remember what was it the preview we did. All right. Okay. So just in case people didn't listen, we, I, Ricky's made a decision at some point that that medium sliced bread was the way forward. Right. And he prefers it because it's thick slices to doughy. But the reality of that is the 99% people prefer toasted bread.

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They prefer thick sliced look. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And I was just like I know the question was, why is your whole family subjected to medium sized toast just because you like it? And I think you insinuated that Donna likes it, too. No, I said my one of my daughters, I think they quite enjoy it as well. I don't know if they do.

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Anyway, I've got a response here from your wife. It depends, she said. She says, well, it depends on the day. Okay. Average work sandwich medium is fine. However, if I was having toast and had a choice, thick cut would definitely be my preference. I'd even go as far as saying doorstop for toast, though. That that that's men's lead also may.

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It's just so thick, man. You've got old bread and so little psyllium. I agree the doorstop blows that meant or it's way too thick even for toast. That's too much. Yeah. However, if you were making a bit of Welsh rarebit then a doorstop is is absolutely fine. You see Frank. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I just saw him walking. I was just like, I want that fat little look at him.

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You get smacked on his ass. Hey, anyway, yeah. So if you're making a Welsh rarebit, something like that, then you could, you could use a doorstop in that instance because you put your. And you got mustard. You got cheese. That's, put a little bit horseradish. Oh, I am I still looking the other day actually, because, I, it was actually an advert on the Buckley's podcast that they did on their socials.

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You listen to that? I don't listen to it. And I like them as people. Yeah. And it is the crisps. I see them. It's funny, this is this fire I feel. Oh my. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I just, I don't know if it was, that was like a cold or anything that. No, no. Oh yeah. For sure.

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Yeah. And they were eating Coleman's nuts. So it's nuts with that mustard fucking brick dust in your nose. And I was like, I know someone you'd love that wasabi peas. And one of my favorite things, you know, but they're like massively calorific. Oh, I. Will, oh, I got a Canadian and I. There was the desert delight. Yeah. Something is there today.

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Oh, I saw it now. It's good. Yeah. It should. It won't happen again. No it just does it because what was put on my computer. Edit this better. All right. Yeah. The cold when I saw, when I saw the not satisfied and I managed left them well to go back to the bread bit. Right. I just want I did want to say before we play the jingle, they want to say that there are times where I will prefer a thicker bread.

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If you've got some mad feet in some way and up, fill in that a bit of egg mayo where it's got some white to it. Yeah, it's got some wetness to it. You do need something because you don't want to pick up a slice of bread and everything to fall out. You need a bit of firmness to the bread and not back in the day.

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I used to make these triple decker fried egg and bacon sandwiches. If you use the medium stuff, the heat of melting the butter, it just turn into some floppy mess. You can't. You can't have that. You can't have that. No. That's ridiculous. Yeah. If you if you're using like, you know what I used to like doing as a kid, my granddad would make me scrambled eggs with lots of butter.

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Oh. Oh. Just scrambled eggs. And then the juice would just be patchy. So I'm like, I don't make it like that. But that's how he did. It was a kid, and I would get it in a spit of toast, and I would fold it and make into a sandwich a scrambled egg sandwich, buttery with ketchup. Oh, that's what it's a lot.

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I better play the jingles. Would be all day. Yeah.

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The night hazy like Band of Brothers. Playing tones high is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music. So we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

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Hello and welcome to lads anonymous is episode 122. I'm Ricky, he's flab two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something 90 you know. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav? How are you in general? Get your cats insured. If you've got cats, get them insured.

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Fucking WhatsApp. And my little cat came back with a limp. Oh, no. Yeah. Limp curled up, didn't move for about seven hours and took it to the vet. And they're like, we don't think it's broken, but it might be broken. They've had to go for an x ray today. Three free hundred quid x ray and how much it cost typically to mend a broken leg and a cat.

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Thousands.

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And have, have you got it insured? No, it's not fucking insured. Us. That's what I'm saying. Get your cats insured. So what? You. What are you going to do? Knows me? I have no idea. We can't afford it. We ain't getting money because of the house. Everything's in the house. Chop it off. Chop off. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I remember, you know, I remember back in the day, in the 90s, I used to see quite a lot of free legged cats.

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Maybe it's quite an expensive thing to chop a leg of a cat. Yeah. Fucking mad. How much does it cost?

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To amp?

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A poor fucking cat? Well, what do you think happens? I don't know, I have no idea. One of my mates is, Is cat got run over and it had to be bad. It was. What are talking approximately 800 to 2 grand, right? Okay. All right, we go to the fix. This little I can remember. Nothing off. Yeah.

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One of my mates, I remember his, cat got run over and it had a gammy leg. I don't know, I can't remember what happened to it, though. Did they cut that off? I don't know, he fucking knows. Do you know, before, actually, before we go into today's topic, what I want to say, patron from the 9th of November.

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So that is you know, van life, small houses. I was I was walking along the canal this morning and I was thinking about what it would be like to live in a canal boat. Yeah, that's what I would say. Is that alternative you get. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. Because we got your mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Eight lives in the canal boat. He's actually written in that shit. Yeah. As he does. He like the cross guy story. Yeah. Oh he loves it. Absolutely loves it. But. And he's assured me every time he doesn't like. Yeah. I don't have a cross by no harm will come to you. Not a hair on your head. So just so people don't know, you're Ricky at, someone who listens to the podcast has invited him down.

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Is it? What happened? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, just inviting down the inviting. You had little look around his canal boat. He. First of all, he he was traveling through Milton Keynes, and he invited me to go to the edge of Milton Keynes to get on his canal boat, travel through Milton Keynes on his canal boat for a few hours.

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And then when he was on his journey, I would get off and then go back to my house, because it's must go past your house. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, like my kid got a school play that day, so I had to go to that. But when he was traveling through, I know when he's traveling through, I said that I would still try and get hold of him.

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As it turns out, something happened with his boat and he needed to moor up for a night or something like that. And he said, I'm at the galleon mooring. I have no idea if it's anywhere near you. And I was like, that is the closest mooring to my house. I can be there in seven minutes. And he was like, mate, I've got some cold ciders, I've got some Rolaids.

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Why don't you come on down? And I was like, yeah, maybe I will. Yeah. And then as I started traversing the the stony, gravelly path walkway down the canal. Yeah. And I did, thank God. What am I walking into here? Who is this guy? Yeah. I don't know him from Adam. Yeah. What what what could happen to me?

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And anything. Anything? Not everyone wants to be, like, not saying that I'm famous, but people want to be famous for an act. Yes. Something. Yes. Maybe I could be part of this act. Yeah. They want to be in front of the front page. The sun. They want that. Yeah, that. Yeah, exactly. And I thought it might be possible that I get down there and I don't know who where the canal boat is.

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There's quite a few there. Yeah. And then I finally find the one he's on. Yeah. And I'm just waiting around. And then the doors would swing open and he'd be standing there with a crossbow. And before I've even process what's happened, I'll just say the. And I've got a crossbow in my chest and I floating in the Grand Union Canal.

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That's genuinely crossed my mind. Family devastated. Yeah. Local man found face down in the Grand Union controlled Union Canal. Crossbow through his chest. Yeah. No. Dead 42 crossbow. The police are searching for the culprit, but he remains at large of my. Anyway, I don't want you to die or anything like that, but. Oh, man, if you went that way, that would be superb.

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Yeah, I mean, think of the number one. Has Richard Pods as good as he died. Yeah, he's a fucking crossbow. Him.

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Class. Yeah. No. So I did think about that. I always think about that when I'm on the canal. Actually, about you get a crossbow. And, And I did think about, would I be able to live on there? And I don't know if I could actually. Have you have I ever crush you at, like, especially with, you know, I'm on my words when I'm saying this with your, building works.

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Yeah. Do you ever thought about alternative living? For that? I've thought about not living for about, like, Yeah. No. Not really. I mean, we've, you have to be like my little brother Alex. He he is, he's he's lived in all sorts of situations, like, he's he's been living caravans he once lived in. There was like this in Bristol.

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I think if anyone's been near Bristol, there is a, there is like an alternative culture that is sort of a sort of omnipresent. And wherever you go you'll find these sort of like lockups, but there's people in caravans living on the lock up and then be running water, and there's like a community center. And he just found this, this.

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It was like a community of people that lived in these caravans. And he lived in this like, what was it? Oh, if you imagine, like the old fashioned caravans that you tow, it was one of them. Yeah, yeah. And then you'd go in there and there was like a tiny little wood burner and, and, a double bed, a desk where you would work.

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And that was it. And he lived there for about two years. And then the council came and shut it all down. What happened to the caravan? They didn't belong to him. He was renting it. So, Right. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And he's his wife. He's Mrs.. Who's now they've had they have a kid together. She also lived at that.

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So that's how they sort of connected I guess she was. And no I don't they live in now. They've got a baby. They live in a they live in a house? Yeah, in a flat. Yeah. Right. Okay. So I mean, your description there.

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At the age of, you know, nearly 43, nothing terrifies me more than, like, living in a caravan and having a wood burner and not, like being able to jump in a shower, with a hot water and stuff like that. So the I mean, I'll have, like, I have thought about alternative living in the way of, like, canal boats, like, do you ever, I know, have you ever been on one of those?

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They're quite, er, popular now. Digital detox. Where you go away to a bit of land, a farm, and there is some wooden hut. You put your mobile phones in there, it's locked up. And then for the weekend you're out in the wilderness and it's just you. You partner a dog, double bed, lovely little bath and stuff like that.

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All the nice bits of it. Now, as a holiday or a weekend away. I could get down with that. That'd be lovely. Just a proper disconnect from everything and anyone but doing it full time in my life, I don't think I could, I don't think like that, that disconnect from be it because I'm just chronically online. I don't think I could do that to.

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I'd have to so that you go, you agree to go somewhere and you know a lot of only. So what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm at my best. That doesn't appeal to me. I like, I don't know, maybe it would be good for me. I don't really think about it at all. I don't, I don't like, want to do that.

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I do though, however, I understand the link of like, I don't think constant phone use is good for you. I think it ultimately makes you feel makes you feel bad and being not bad. I feel worse, typically from picking up my phone than I would if I hadn't picked it up. And I've been sleeping so much better when my phone is in the other side of the room.

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It's a weird thing. I never thought that it would make any difference at all. But what happened was in our house where we lived in old college and is fucked in need. So much work. This rewiring. It needs, it needs. You need so much anyway. And one of the plugs of it blew recently, and I'm like, I'm not.

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I don't own that house. If all my money's gone into the new house, I have to, We have to just live with this. And, Anyway, so I couldn't plug my phone in next to my bed, so I moved it to the other side of the room. Just the physical aspect of it not being near me is meant that when I if I do wake up in the in the night and I generally do, my urge would be to go to my phone, check the time.

00:29:39:02 – 00:29:52:24
I'll check the time. I just check my messages. That was messages at 4 a.m., but I'll just check anyway. And then. And then your brain suddenly starts kicking into gear and then you can't get back to sleep. Yeah, when I don't look at my phone, I know it's not an option. It doesn't matter what time it is, it's a relevant.

00:29:52:24 – 00:30:16:18
What time is it? Who cares what time it is? I know it's not getting up time because the alarm hasn't gone, so it's still sleep time. Yeah. Ice time I. The best time. Best sleep time. Yeah, yeah. And I and I, I go back to sleep and I literally go. I very rarely can I struggle to get back to sleep now, but looking just the act of looking at my phone activates something in your brain.

00:30:16:18 – 00:30:37:00
It just. It's no good to my my, my missus is being, Now, this is a this is a weird thing. Not normally like you, Mrs.. Catch you watching porn or something like that. Yeah. My Mrs.. I've done a how it happens. Right. But she'll walk in, she's in the kitchen and she can hear me on my phone.

00:30:37:02 – 00:31:00:08
Hello? Rick. I'm not. What you fucking watching that shit again? What? What doesn't she want you to watch? Somehow the algorithm just feeds me racist stuff to me. So, she wants. I'm watching, like, you know, I fucking Britain first. A lot know, and I'm just. How am I got it? But I just like it. Just. I keep getting stuff like that.

00:31:00:14 – 00:31:18:01
She's like, if you. If I find you watching that shit again, no wonder you fucking feel the way you do. Yeah, I start watching it and I'm like, I'm just scrolling reels. I'm just scrolling TikTok. I just saw a man fall over on ice. That was funny. And now I've got Tommy Robinson in front of me, like, I don't know what's happening.

00:31:18:03 – 00:31:32:16
Yeah, you can't you you've got to reset your algorithm. You don't want it to be. You don't want to be fed by that shit anyway. So she sort of can hear you on your phone. Yeah, she can hear me. Yeah. She has got me. Doesn't mind me watching anything, but I don't know. She doesn't make you feel worse.

00:31:32:16 – 00:31:54:07
And that obviously is going to impact how you are in the home and with the kids. So yeah, my a shit like the one month face TikTok is the worst for it. Yeah, because I'll look at something and then I'll go down, I'll go down into

00:31:54:09 – 00:32:23:16
Comments. Yeah. Like it's just filled with the, the morons or the. Yeah, vile. And yeah, it just makes me feel bad and I'm like, I'm sitting it starting typing. I'm sorry. Sorry. You're you're moron. Like I have to check myself, like, what am I doing? But what why am I doing this? And by and large, I think there's a point where sometimes I enjoy browsing TikTok if I'm waiting or if I've maybe had a glass of wine, then there's something there, then maybe.

00:32:23:16 – 00:32:55:16
But generally shit. Yeah, I, I've really kind of, lost my love with TikTok. My, my, the one is like from my age, right. Instagram Reels, that's where it's at. West London is the racist app, isn't it? Is it? It's where all the racist go. Yeah. For sure. Instagram fucking no there's no there's no regulation there. Whereas no on TikTok you get banned, you get banned, you get warnings were on uninstall.

00:32:55:17 – 00:33:31:18
It doesn't seem to be anything. You can say whatever you want. Yeah. And people think I'm an ex as well. That's very bad, very bad. But anyway. Right. We digress. What do you think? People search out alternative living right. Is it is it financial freedom or is it kind of, like this, I think rejection of modern life, I think, yeah, I think that there is a way society expects you to behave and fall in line, and it isn't for everybody in the same way.

00:33:31:18 – 00:33:45:04
Like, like mainstream education isn't for everyone. But there's a way you have to go about teaching as many people as possible in the same thing. The the society we've created here is.

00:33:45:06 – 00:34:10:05
Is to have children and have a home and get on the property ladder and have a job and work. You know, it's a five, even if you hate it and it doesn't fit right for everybody, you know, and I understand it. You can't like most people, don't enjoy their jobs, I would imagine. I don't think, yeah, most people enjoy it the majority of the time where they have to spend that, you know, they spend their time and.

00:34:10:05 – 00:34:32:12
Yeah. And so some people reject it and say, you know, I don't want to do that. And that is an attractive thing. But the the fallout of that is that generally you're not as comfortable or I mean, physically comfortable, then you would be if you do toe the line and fit in with society, which is follow the rules, don't break the law.

00:34:32:14 – 00:34:56:00
Yeah. Make your payments on time. Yeah. Aspire to have a house, a home and a house and, have babies, I guess. I don't know, whatever it is, you know, not everyone wants to do it. I'm I need comfort. I'm not like my little brother and me are so different from each other. Completely different. Like, oh, I love him.

00:34:56:02 – 00:35:21:12
I would do anything for him. But we are different people in the extreme and I like, I like hanging around with him as well. It's not like there is any issue with the fact that we're different. It's not like we can't get on because we different. We don't. We talk all the time. I have a great relationship with my brother, but he's what he deems to be the way he lives his life and why the way I do it just it just separate to a certain degree.

00:35:21:12 – 00:35:41:18
I think as he's now, he's at kids. He wants his kids to be comfortable and warm and. Yeah. But when he was on his own he sort of thrived in the challenge of living like that. Like he would, he would. He's kind of like the David Goggins. Be uncomfortable, revel in the uncomfortableness. Live in the uncomfortableness. Right.

00:35:41:19 – 00:36:02:11
That kind of stuff. That's where you learn who you are. And I'm not I'm not bothered about learning who I am. I just want to be in front of a cozy fire on a sofa watching it. Writers. It's what I mean. But Alex is more resilient. You can see that in the way he looks in his is his appearance, his body, like he's worked on his body.

00:36:02:13 – 00:36:21:17
And he's and the difference between the two as well, obviously, Rick is that his dad was unconventional. We spoke about his dad last week. Yeah, yeah, he lived an alternative life. He had a home. We had a house in, in Crouch End, which is lovely. But he also had a caravan in Essex, and he would go there every single weekend.

00:36:21:17 – 00:36:44:20
Every weekend without fail. Every single weekend. Really? Yeah. Yeah, Friday to Sunday, every single weekend. Sometimes we would go, sometimes we wouldn't go. But he would go and live in his caravan. It was more like the Caravan Club. No, no, he had just had a bit of land where he had this mobile home. And it wasn't a caravan, as in, like the one I mentioned Alex lived in before.

00:36:45:00 – 00:37:10:02
It was a big one that you'd have to have a lorry to move. Yeah. Yeah, I know them ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, it was, it was like a free bed caravan or two bed caravan with a big, big lounge and kitchen. So it wasn't like alternative living, but it was off. There wasn't any, like, there wasn't any plumbing or like we'd have to shit in a septic toilet.

00:37:10:04 – 00:37:41:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like that. And I'd go in there and I'm like, there's spiders everywhere. Anyway, the, fact that. So, so my point here is, is because of the nurturing aspect of Alex's upbringing, that he was probably always more inclined to look, be comfortable in that setting. Whereas my dad, my dad, we have separate the two different that he was a plumber and good money, worked very hard, but hated his job, but had a really lovely home.

00:37:41:15 – 00:37:54:09
And growing up in that you can't. That's just, I mean, I guess that's what you're you're products of your environment and your and the nursery that you've been going, you've grown up in. Right. So I guess you want those things.

00:37:54:11 – 00:38:14:16
You have the lovely home and then they and then. Yeah I mean one is now he's, he's the one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What he bought on what he's got is you're mad. It's like he is just so he's got a really good eye for design. My dad and he's a really good. He's like I was like what you do because I'll go round there I he's retired.

00:38:14:16 – 00:38:37:22
He's 74 years old. He's been retired for about ten years now. And but he's not he's always working on his home. He's always doing something. It's never finished. You know, I've got around there this morning because he's walking the dog and I walk past his house and just checks if he was up. And like, we had a cup of tea together and I've started the pond and I was like, well, sorry, sorry.

00:38:37:22 – 00:38:55:11
Did you you walked past his house this morning. You say, see if he's in. You just had a cup of tea with each other. Yeah, mate, that's fucking cool. I'd love it if my dad if my dad was round there. Yeah, not a 45 minute drive and I could do something like that. Well, he's, That. That's really nice, man.

00:38:55:14 – 00:39:18:09
He lived in London, didn't he, for, until, I would say just after lockdown, the second lockdown. He lived in London and I went down to see him, and I said, we went around the pub, a walk back, and it was just fucking grim. It was. It's it knocks it. All right. So it's Seven Sisters, so it's not the nicest place in North London.

00:39:18:09 – 00:39:42:10
It isn't. But it's like, I guess the rough part of it. And I was like walking back. That is fucking horrible. Yeah. It's like it's this fucking shits everywhere. It looked like we. You get mugged at one stage walking back from the pub, he's like 73 and I'm like, you don't have to live here. But it's gone so far downhill to what we grew up around that I was like, why, what are you doing?

00:39:42:10 – 00:40:10:23
This fucking. The drug deals happening outside his house. There's about 50 drunkards that live at the bottom of the road. You just hang around and drink outside the safe. Morrisons yeah, I remember it. Remember? And fuck, you know I it's the again alternative living used to get pissed on this on the street all day because they chose, you know, for them to have major issues and alcoholics and the their upbringing would you know, you don't choose to be that so that's the wrong word.

00:40:10:23 – 00:40:34:01
But anyway, so it's it's kind of like you've got a house here. It's what you could get where we live. For what this is worth, in London, it's just. And you can move to where we are, which is calm, you know, you don't hear police sirens every two minutes. You know, you can walk down the street and there might be four people you pass as both the 400.

00:40:34:03 – 00:40:59:17
Yeah. And you can go out and you're not gonna get mugged. No one's going to bother you. In fact, everyone's a polite. And, So he left and and uprooted his life at 71. But then to find the new pace of life here in Wiltshire. Here. And so we will help him find a place. I helped him, like he couldn't come down all the time.

00:40:59:19 – 00:41:24:11
His wife's not really well as well. So it's important for us to go. And so I found this house, and he has sent loads of pictures, and I was like, I don't know that it needs a lot of work. I can't, I can't I can't see the vision like he can. Yeah. I look at all the problems like we've our house that we're going in and but he, he came in anyway eventually.

00:41:24:11 – 00:41:42:01
But he ended up, ended up moving it, moving down. And that's why now I can just when I'm walking the dog, I can just check, see if he's at ease up and look for it from the window. And there he is. So we had a couple say, but, And I am grateful that I am. I am also aware that he's moving towards the end of his days as well.

00:41:42:02 – 00:42:03:02
Right. And they're like, he may live another ten years, but that is it's really important to make the most of every moment you have and appreciate that it won't last forever because it's part of life. Yeah. So it's nice too. When you said that was quality, right. It was. It felt good. Anyway, he's to look what I've been doing another 4042 now right.

00:42:03:02 – 00:42:19:21
He's always up to something. I've gone out and he's built a this is this is happened. He built a summer house for his wife to go read her books, and she read books all day. He built this mate and she's decorated. Incredible. This is amazing summerhouse that looks down the garden. Yeah, which is great, but obviously it's getting wintry now.

00:42:19:23 – 00:42:40:02
He goes. I'm digging a pond. Another one year is short. That is 74. He's got a calm down. He goes. I'm always moaning about it. Back and his knees and his elbows and he basically Rick is I've gone out there and he's built this rectangle square pond. Right. Yeah. It's going to be a pond for frogs and shit like that.

00:42:40:02 – 00:42:55:11
And he's going to build walkways for the frogs to get in and out of the pond and, and then like, and then it's like these, these cement it wooden posts everywhere. And that's what they. And he doesn't want to build a deck. So it's gonna have a pond with decking that goes all the way to the summer house.

00:42:55:11 – 00:43:15:20
So it's all one great big thing with a pond in the middle of it. I was I mean, he's like a genius with that sort of stuff, I can't remember. I started the story, but it's, the kind of home he created is one that I aspire to have. And actually the color palettes and everything that I've chosen and Mrs. has chosen is very similar to his style.

00:43:15:20 – 00:43:32:15
So I don't yeah. I mean, yeah, your dad's house is lovely. I've actually stayed in your dad's house. I've showered in your dad's house. Oh that's nice. That's that's that's yeah. It's weird. It's weird in it. Yeah. That'll shout out in your dad's house a couple of times out today. I said, why don't you go back to your room?

00:43:32:17 – 00:44:02:24
Some of you said about your brother, Alex. And this is just isn't about your brother. But do you feel like, you know, alternative living, whether it's you're in a van or whether you're in a tiny house or, or caravan or whatever. And your brother is an artist, and you were saying about the suffering that he goes through, do you feel like, people that choose that life do it because of, the suffering for their art?

00:44:03:00 – 00:44:26:04
Do you know what I mean? You know, when people like, if if you are in a, if you're wrapped in cotton wool, you got heat in, you got hot water, food in your bed, a roof over your house, all the kind of comforts in life, then with the struggles in music, in, in dance, in whatever it you know, it's a lot of art.

00:44:26:04 – 00:44:51:14
I say that that the struggle is where the, creativity comes from. I'm just like, What, do you think your brother did that? I don't know, is a conscious effort. I mean, he knew he he chose to not, work in conventional stuff, like living a typical 9 to 5, which, if you met Alex, you can kind of understand.

00:44:51:16 – 00:45:14:02
You know, I remember the the one of the jobs. Yet when he was a kid was, Blockbuster Video, remember? Oh, fuck. Fuck, fuck. It's. Someone tried to rob the store, and my brother is like. It's like he. He just basically got a fire extinguisher. And after he hit the fire extinguisher in the guy's head or something like that.

00:45:14:04 – 00:45:38:03
Yeah. And then on the CCTV, you say you see him, he's got it, and you see it run at the guy. Yeah. With Defy the Pharisees. You work in a blockbuster. He got the video, didn't he? That was cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Yeah. No, I just think the Alex's was pretty pre-built to find other ways outside of the system, in the conventional system, too, to operate.

00:45:38:03 – 00:46:07:17
And I think creativity, music and art, which he created a lot. And he's written plays that have concert, you know, he went to New York, you know, one of the plays was was shown Off-Broadway and and he is a musician. And so that freedom of living in that environment meant that he was able to create. And you think if you listen to his music now that a lot of it is about the the lifestyle that you had and has.

00:46:07:17 – 00:46:30:19
Yeah. You know, a couple of songs on his latest album are about that caravan and Moving Place and, and and being forced to move and, and his aspirations for the future and stuff like that. So, I would imagine that the through the difficulty and uncomfortable nature of that, that inspired his creativity, for sure. You can hear it in his music.

00:46:30:21 – 00:46:55:17
I used to work with, a guy who was a photographer and videographer, only few years ago, actually. Maybe not even that, but anyway, he, had like, an old style. It wasn't a camper van. It was like. It was like, it was almost like a transit van. Like he'd convert it. Something like that. It wasn't this beautiful thing about.

00:46:55:19 – 00:47:23:10
He had a bed in there, and he had a shower in there. He had all these different parts to where he was able to, just live in there, really. But he was so into surfing that he wanted to be able to park. Is van up at a car park? And as soon as there's light, go to the sea and surf.

00:47:23:11 – 00:47:43:23
Yeah. And then. And then when he's done there, he went to the back of his van. He had this little, shower that he could run over a surfboard and his wetsuit and wash himself down. So do you know. But, yes, I want to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put tower on him, and then it gets on with his day, and he would be hooked up to the internet.

00:47:43:23 – 00:48:11:20
He'd go to Costa McDonald's or wherever, and he would do his work, and he earned his money. Do you remember? So he worked. Yeah, he worked at a he worked at the same social media, agency I was working for. And it's kind of like, as long as you are online doing the work and you're online and editing and now gives you shit where you are, I couldn't give a fuck, which is great.

00:48:11:22 – 00:48:39:03
But he was like, he was at an age where I just found really hard to understand because you were going towards your, I don't know, creeping into third use or whatever with his, with his Mrs.. And, and I was like, oh, you, you saving for a house and, you know, settle down and maybe children or whatever it was.

00:48:39:03 – 00:49:05:13
And he was like, nah, nah, I don't have any internet. Like at the moment. My life is I do my work to sustain myself. Then I'll go surfing and then I'll go fishing. And that was it. And he was so happy. And you know, when you're. I'm not like, I'm like, obviously what? You were just saying you're not like that because, you know, our home comforts.

00:49:05:15 – 00:49:20:06
And when he was showing me around, he was like, if I pull this drawer out and I flip this drawer over and I do this, you know, that, then I can get to my kettle. And I was like, mate, you've got to do that every time to get to your couch. And he's like, yeah, it takes five minutes like fucking that to make a cup of tea.

00:49:20:06 – 00:49:26:15
You got all that's like me. There's no chance I'd be there.

00:49:26:17 – 00:49:43:18
I yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing. I spend so much time worrying about the future that you don't live in the moment. I know it's like a cliche thing. It's such an obvious thing to say, but it does you.

00:49:43:20 – 00:50:08:24
You think like if you think that what really makes you anxious, it's about what might or what might or might not happen in the future. Yeah. That's that's that's the anxiety. That's that's oh, I might not be able to afford a house or, you know, but it's just because we've grown up in this society that it's, it says that that's what you must do, but what actually happens?

00:50:09:01 – 00:50:35:24
You own a home and then what you give it to. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Right. I was literally about say, yeah, go. And so you spend all your time worrying about something that, you know, you it's important to create a base, a home. And you, you know, somewhere you feel comfortable that's really important like that. And that's what I'm looking forward to when we actually if, when we get into this house is we've we've made this this is awesome.

00:50:36:01 – 00:51:04:20
And, and this is comfortable and this is a home and everyone feels safe. And the kids always know that there's going to be something for them. Yeah. They'll be somewhere that they if whatever happens in their life, there will be a room that's theirs that they can come back to. You know, and, you know, I've had I've had to take advantage of that from my dad, you know, I'll tell you what I am planning at some stage.

00:51:04:22 – 00:51:23:18
This is the nature of my work. I can't do it anywhere. I can do it. If I can get a podcast set up, I can record anywhere that has an active internet connection. So once we settled in the house a bit, I'm thinking about going around and traveling around and doing the podcast remotely from somewhere in the world where it's cheap to buy.

00:51:23:20 – 00:51:43:21
I would 100% do that. I am going to. Yeah, I mean, that would be yeah, that'd be fucking insane to do that. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't I never got to travel or do anything. I my plan was to go traveling. And then I met Ollie. I was, I was going to go to Mexico for six months.

00:51:43:21 – 00:52:02:22
So I have to tell you this, I think. No, no, no. Yeah. No. Fucking hell. Yeah. I was saving up to go somewhere. So I met someone who said you can live in this certain area of Mexico, which is relatively nice, save for about £500 a month. You have a good life. 500 a month. And I was like, I want to do that.

00:52:02:22 – 00:52:29:01
I want to save and go live in Mexico for six months and just experience stuff. And then I kind of, struggled to save because obviously at that time I like doing lots of drugs and stuff, and drugs were expensive. And then obviously early on, I was, you know, maybe something's going to happen. I don't know if it will, but it sort of slowly bubbled for a few months and then but yeah, like can live in Mexico, record podcasts maybe.

00:52:29:01 – 00:52:57:02
Yeah. That the the space. Sorry. The time difference is going to be crucial. So maybe not Mexico but I feel that way. Why did you what did you pick Mexico. Just because the you teens I mean it was like cheap to live for £500 and. Yeah. So when, when, you know, my previous girlfriend had a, had a, of an internship and this woman would come in and she would ask me, I just speak to her.

00:52:57:06 – 00:53:22:17
And she was like, I used to live in Mexico. And I was like, oh, how about how much it cost? And that's how that's how. That's why Mexico came up. And, it's quite close to Bolivia and Peru. So, Colombia, you see a lot of, people in East Asia at the moment where whether it's, Thailand, Indonesia, Bali, that kind of thing, where.

00:53:22:17 – 00:53:43:05
Yeah, where, where they're doing that, kind of that, like digital nomads as, I actually that's one of the things on, on here, you know, before we, Yeah. Does that mean, like, you could because you could earn money through digital and you can live anywhere? Exactly. Yeah. You've got no, no, no fixed abode. You can just travel the world and continue to go to the buy it live in Dubai.

00:53:43:05 – 00:54:01:00
It tax free pretty much. But the company that I've got afford to buy is the other thing. Yeah. That was, that was what I was going to say. Like you probably need to be earning quite a bit, but if you're, if you renege on like credit over there, you're like straight, straight to prison.

00:54:01:02 – 00:54:22:23
Really? I think so, yeah. That's what I said on that sports car. So I don't know if it's still the case, but it's like the sports cars abandoned because people miss payments and I have to leave or something like that. It. I'm not going to like it's it scares me. Dubai. Like I get that it's this, you know, modern city how fast things are growing and tax free.

00:54:22:23 – 00:54:44:04
And you can get anything everywhere and all the, all the amazing stuff that it has to offer. But any place, it actually doesn't have to be just Dubai, but places where I could accidentally do something and end up ten years in prison. And there's no kind of, you know, creation or understanding. It's like you're a Brit, you've done that.

00:54:44:04 – 00:55:03:07
You've which kind of base. Yeah, yeah, kind of base in your past. Thailand's terrible. Like, not terrible, but it's like it's you can get banged up for ages in the actually the just to be fair and I didn't know this in Dubai. You're not going to end up in prison if you miss payment. Sorry. That was just the something that I must have seen on Tik Tok or something.

00:55:03:09 – 00:55:26:11
If you if you if you fail to appear in court than the rest bar and you go to prison, then, right. Okay. Well, I mean, that's good that you call yourself. I just want to read out something quickly. Someone has sent this in living off grid in France. Bonjour. Me again. Another great. Listen, did you say sustainably living?

00:55:26:13 – 00:55:52:20
The term is complete. It may, isn't it? That's an exaggeration, but that is the plan. Currently, the pig farm overall has pretty self-sufficient food wise and energy efficient, but electric etc. is still on grid. But we've recently acquired some land in a forest about 20 20km away. Is this someone in? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Wow. They're living in the living in the south of France.

00:55:52:20 – 00:56:16:02
Like, virtually off grades. Wow. Yeah, well, they listen to respond. Yes. And they pictures. Not actually. That's a good point. Why the fuck when do you send pictures? Hahaha. Wow. Yeah. Cool. So you got me. Yeah. Normally you can't build on it as it's national park, but there is a loophole for farmers, so we're using that to hopefully get permission for our plans.

00:56:16:08 – 00:56:44:09
The plan is for total energy self-sufficient. House solar is, passive to control heating panels for using and storing electric. There is an underground spring, so that will be our water wastewater and shit will be, we'll go for a filtration system, which we have on the farm at the moment. Heating will also be a sun, and in winter, the trees that, manfully chop down will hit us.

00:56:44:11 – 00:57:10:14
We also have planning on having a very large. What the fuck is this word? While Penny. I've never heard of that. While a penny style greenhouse w and I p I and I never heard of that attached to the house so that we can grow, some veg all year round as winter, as stuff on the outdoor patches.

00:57:10:14 – 00:57:32:02
But basically, this guy is living off grid in the south of France on a pig farm. The only thing that connected to at the moment is, you know, the energy. Yeah, which is great. But if they're buying some land and they're going to be self-sufficient in that manner. But that's fucking that's my some pitches. I want to see some of this shit.

00:57:32:05 – 00:57:42:02
Yeah. Well. Well, a penny greenhouse is one that's buried beneath ground. And then you have, you have the glass above it.

00:57:42:04 – 00:58:06:05
Buried beneath ground. Well, it you dig down. So that's fucking cool. Yeah. It's cool. It's in pictures there. If you fucking remember that she said to some pigs. Now you dig down and then you have glass, the roof, but it's in the ground. So I guess you're using all the little soil in the ground, plant everything in there, and then you put in it, which would keep it heating, but it doesn't escape.

00:58:06:07 – 00:58:42:23
Yeah, looks quite good. Just have some fucking pictures. Yeah, it's fucking mental. It's brilliant. Yeah. Right. We are going to be going on to not a dilemma but we have we, we do have something on a, you know good. We also have and another thing is well yeah. So but before we get into that, the topic for next week and it was, submitted to us by, not by a patron, but by yourself weakness.

00:58:43:00 – 00:59:05:04
So when you sent me this on WhatsApp, I thought, you know, I in a bottle. What did you what was your ram, remember? No thinking behind this. So this is what I. Wait, so this this is exactly why. So I put it in the following week because I knew I'd go six weeks. And, you know, you said about a week this half up.

00:59:05:04 – 00:59:32:12
Nice. None of us talking about my. But this is what I've got. So weakness not matching up to what society expects us to be showing emotion. What is being a man? Pressure on men to be honest and open, but still not being seen as a weak. What prevents people from showing what is deemed to be weak? Was that kind of, your thought process?

00:59:32:16 – 01:00:00:21
Yeah. Yeah. Like yeah, I think so. I think like in terms of, like what men the, the element of not being able to perhaps keep up with, what's expected of in a family, in a family, scenario. So I think that's kind of what it is. I'll think about it more this week. Yeah, yeah.

01:00:00:22 – 01:00:15:08
So, yeah, just doing the internet, too. I don't understand what the delay is. We can do after next week. I'll do it and it will do it. And then I say, what would it be to how many? We talk about so much to talk about the into there. But I know don't worry. I've got it all. I've got it all saved.

01:00:15:09 – 01:00:35:18
So we're all good with that. Yeah. We've, we've weakness the the kind of, balance of that, you know, men should be showing that their softer side and be emotional and be more connected and more present. But then it's on the other side of, like, if you are showing emotion or you are saying, I need help, all of this.

01:00:35:18 – 01:01:01:12
And it's like, oh, you know, judge this week like I am. So, so there was moments, there's been moments in this house building in the house and stuff, which I'll talk about next week, but just for this is on me. But it's not like there's no way for me to turn here. I yeah, there's nothing anyone can say or do to help me.

01:01:01:14 – 01:01:19:20
So I've got to find a way to make this work. And it's very rare in my life that I've ever been in that situation. Whereas if I don't sort this out, this is not going to happen and everyone's lives are going to be affected by it. I can imagine the pressure on that is, oh, I mean, there is time.

01:01:19:20 – 01:01:41:11
There's been times like the in the last month or so that I've just it's been stressful in the most extreme. I understand what stress is now I genuinely do. And so I had to find a way out of that. Yeah. You have not only do you have to find a way out of that feeling and being feeling that way because it's not conducive.

01:01:41:12 – 01:02:08:21
You can't do anything when you've when you're when you're pinned to the bed where stress and can't sleep, that is not helping anything. But it's the thing that you're trying to fix is making you stressed is, It's like a vicious circle. So you have to, you have to get at it, get out of that intense mental, you know, mental issue.

01:02:08:23 – 01:02:36:02
Yeah. In order to address the problem that's making you feel that way, that's. That was tough. That's hard. And I felt weak for for the first time. I guess that's where it, may, but, you know, it's fun. It's life in it. Yeah. Well, we'll we'll discuss this next week. Yeah. We move. Yeah. So if you've got anything on what, what we've just discussed, then weakness, men being weak or anyone feeling weak, send it into lads.

01:02:36:02 – 01:02:47:02
Unknown pod at gmail.com. And we are going to go into. And another thing. Nothing.

01:02:47:04 – 01:03:13:23
And another thing. If you don't know. And another friend. Yeah. Couldn't agree more than the novel thing. Oh. Yeah. No learning of a thing. Oh. Oh, sure. Out. Like I love that you can go to the end. He goes like. Oh, yeah. And another thing. Yeah, yeah I agree with I agree with that. And another thing.

01:03:13:23 – 01:03:44:24
Oh no she laughs I'm not sure about that one. So that's a genius. So the another thing for this week is physical keepsakes like gig tickets football tickets, first date stops. Where has all the physical, physical things gone? Where, like, memories are in here? This fucking thing? Yeah. And no one ever goes back to it. Yeah, I went to the Europa League final.

01:03:45:00 – 01:04:20:24
Where's my ticket? Where's the gig ticket? The football ticket. There isn't one. You can't fucking get one. It's a barcode on my phone, but you can't even screengrab. It's gone. Not where, like those physical things that just no longer exist. Disposable cameras, photos. God, no one really prints photos. Has photos anymore. Like where? Where is that? That connection gone that it also magazines and things you hold like.

01:04:21:01 – 01:04:49:10
Yeah. Apart from your phone. You don't hold anything in your own hands anymore. Vagina. Night time. Like, well, never writes books. Yeah. And luckily, you can still get books. No, you're right, you're right. Rick, I, I was thinking about this when I was walking the dog earlier in, like, the, like. You know, I think I'll probably buy something at the Radiohead gig.

01:04:49:12 – 01:05:12:00
Yeah, it's like a keepsake that I could frame, but I don't know what that is like. There won't be a ticket, will it? Like, wait, no, no, no, there'll be nothing. There'll be an 80 pound hoodie with Radiohead on it that's been printed. I had I thought, I've lost it now. Right. But I had a, I had, I had the ticket for when Spurs beat Arsenal in the League Cup in 2008.

01:05:12:03 – 01:05:27:12
I kept that ticket. Yeah, it was under a piece of glass in my old bedroom. I don't know what happened to it now, but, I thought that every time I looked at it, it would remind me of what a great night that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right, Rick, you're right. You're bloody right I might, you're right.

01:05:27:14 – 01:05:49:23
Yeah. I've still got all my tickets from from footy and stuff like that, but yeah, just about every game used to not not now because everything fucking digitized. But before. Before that. Yeah, mate, I've got all of it. I've got every single one fucking mad in it. I love the old membership books. You got those? Got all my membership books.

01:05:50:00 – 01:06:09:12
I got my membership book. Junior the genius. You got my Junior Spurs course. I have some of that stuff on line. People like, yeah, I did years ago, but I will, I will actually dig them out the love, because I need to go in there and get something. They're not heirlooms and, you know, all stuff like that. It's just everything's just digitized.

01:06:09:12 – 01:06:29:12
It's all gone. That's my that's so for me. That's mine. A fucking novel one. Stop digitizing everything. Give me something physical to hold. I want some connection back in my life. Yeah, I, I, I'm with you, Rick. I'm with you. But what should we go on to? Yeah. Okay. What are people sending their their little ransom bones?

01:06:29:14 – 01:06:56:06
Yeah. Please do the audio. So, and another thing. Oh, yeah. Audio would be great. The aim is just as well. And another thing. Dilemmas. Something only you know. Send them in at, lads. Unknown pod at gmail.com. The amount of times I get DM's. Oh, I've got one. I'll need to get around to it. If you're listening to this and you're that person, you know who you are.

01:06:56:07 – 01:07:10:06
There's lots of you out there fucking send in. Do your bit right where we're doing this bit, you do your bit. Now we're going to go into something tiny, you know.

01:07:10:08 – 01:07:41:00
Why? Something, you know, Shakespeare's grave. I've just listened to you and flask talking about going on a narrowboat weekend and chatting on some mushrooms. So in the summer of the 90s, my pals and I decided to go on holiday. None of us got it together enough to get passports, so a UK holiday was our only option. Coming from Cornwall, we didn't worry about a beach holiday and cities weren't for us, so we had the idea to go on a barge holiday.

01:07:41:02 – 01:08:01:06
All of my mates are regular Cornish guys and girls, beers and pulling birds at the way you can. I, on the other hand, had just started discovering the world of Raven and even though I was kind of drifting away from the grape, I still thought it'd be a good idea to go with them, as it was the last fun summer with the moon.

01:08:01:08 – 01:08:23:07
I didn't really drink, but like a bit of puff classic soap bar, and I thought it'd be a laugh to take a couple of taps of acid with me. I still reckon I did, and maybe not. So after 2 or 3 days, we ended in Stratford upon Avon, the latter wanting to go for a beer, and I'd had enough of them by this time.

01:08:23:13 – 01:08:42:23
I decided to stay on the barge and one of the gang said they'd hang with me. So I showed him the tabs and we thought, fuck it, drop them. We had a right laugh. Being on the water was lovely. We haven't even had good banter with some nice girls. When everyone came back up, bubbles was diminished a bit.

01:08:43:00 – 01:09:10:14
As you know, pissed up vibes don't mix great. We've tripped up spank goodness. It got late and everyone started to crash out. I was wide awake. The initial rush was gone and I thought I was getting back to my usual self, but oh no, that is big. As I looked out across the canal to the churchyard, I saw some people with lanterns and they were all dressed up like Quakers or some weird Elizabethan get up I got.

01:09:10:16 – 01:09:37:09
I got out of bed feeling a bit freaked out. Instead, I realized they're carrying shovels and picks. They started digging up one of the graves. As you can imagine, I got a bit freaked out and tried telling my trippy body what was going on. Convinced there was some bad shenanigans going on. I kept suggesting we go over and scare them off because digging up Shakespeare's grave is banger a villager.

01:09:37:10 – 01:10:01:15
One of my mates heard all this and got up and kicked off about the noise. I showed him the grave robbers to find out they don't turn back to large willow trees, wafting gently into the summer breeze with their branches dangling into the canal water. Oops. See, the rest of the holiday was a quiet affair on my part, and pretty much the last time I spent any time with those guys.

01:10:01:17 – 01:10:23:04
Name I tripping buddy. Still laugh about it when we catch up. But yeah, apart from the people on the barge, that is something only I know. Good stuff. Yeah, mate. That fucking. Oh, God. That's one thing I've not not done and I would never do. It's not. It's like. It's like mushrooms, but it just, it just that lasts so long.

01:10:23:06 – 01:10:42:24
Takes ages, you know, it's like 12 hours. You're like, I can't you can't let that with mushrooms. You can kind of try. I've got like three or I got 3 to 5 hours is where I'm going to be. I'm going to feel a certain way. I'm sure I can knock off this 3 or 5 hours, but you can go for a long walk and then have a picnic or something like that.

01:10:42:24 – 01:11:04:15
Or you can just hunker down in the house and watch films and stuff. 12 hours, someone's going to come in and fuck it up at some stage. Yeah, like like that's coming back from the pub and stuff like that. So it's just too intense. It sounds too intense that in Catman. No, you're right mate. So for next week's pod we are going to be talking about weakness.

01:11:04:17 – 01:11:15:16
Send anything you've got to lads and on pod at gmail.com. And patrons you can listen to this Friday. Everyone else will see you on Monday. So your.