#123 | Weakness | Vulnerability? Go on then…

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Are you, keeping up with the Danny Boy I-83 saga? I've been trying to cross him since about a month, maybe six weeks. So when he was just. Maybe even longer than that? Well, he was just sort of going around talking to his camera, picking up grasses. Yeah. And just. Yeah. Living the well. Well, he would consider the high life, I guess.

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And it was something interesting about him in that he was very unpolished and would just talk into the camera. Yeah. And like a lot of men out there. So it isn't. You know, tick Tock is giving him a platform. Yeah. So. Yeah. Sorry. I'm aware of him. What what, what season did you catch him? It was it at the Thailand?

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And I, Thailand for sure. With him doing mushroom, milkshakes with risky red. And I think I've seen some stuff in L.A.. He's always about somewhere. Was it Vietnam? Did he go to Vietnam? No, I think he went to, Where did he go? Was it, Shoot, maybe it was. It wasn't Singapore. He went.

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Yeah, he went somewhere, and he didn't like it. Yeah, it wasn't a bit of him. Okay. But, and then, obviously. But he's in England as well, knocking about his reprobate mates. Yeah. It's, like, everyone is like I say, everyone. Just people online, talking about I'm fascinated with. It's made the several lads WhatsApp groups I've got, he's made it into all of them.

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Yeah, exactly. Well, what is it about him that everyone is just glued to their phone to check his updates, see what he's doing and what you know, where he's about and stuff? I think it's because he's behaving in a way that most people don't talk about. So a lot of lad culture is sort of steeped in, shake in cocaine, certainly of a certain age.

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Yeah. Getting pissed up, staying up all night, but most people grow out of it. And if he's 83, it makes him 42. So and he's still doing it up all night doing it. I think there's something in that is such raw honesty. He's just a bloke and you know, the, the you see in pubs that you would avoid, like you're about 100% the amount of lads like that growing up, especially with like my, my brothers area, like in my sleep, there's more of them than there were where we were, but they're always everywhere.

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It's like the archetypal, you know, working class English lad, probably involved in football violence or something at some stage. Yeah. Love spit, chisel. Yeah. I think people can relate to him or know people like him. And that's why he's kind of like, there's something about the something that's enthralling to watch about him. Yeah, I am, so I've got to be careful what I say here, but I know someone you know like that.

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And he was putting stuff on Facebook, and I think people were just watching his stories and stuff because it was so, you know, people get up to that stuff, but they don't get up to it like most nights or often, and they're just kind of, curious as to how other people live and what they get up to.

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But I think he he knocked all of that on the head, especially face, but because of the amount of, eyes that were on him and what he was up to and stuff like that, but like, Danny Boy is just quite as you said. He's like unpolished, doesn't even out anything, doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything, or, it's just unapologetically himself.

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And I don't think there's like, if you were in like, watching content creators, travel bloggers or whatever it is, they will set up something. So the kind of the content is like, hi, here's me going to, mount whatever, or here's me going on this train journey where he's just like, turning his phone on and just walking about like, not really doing much at times.

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And then he'll get up to something, and then most of it is him getting absolutely smashed and on the chisel wherever he is and processes as well, which you don't really see a lot of people doing. They, he doesn't, doesn't give a shit what people think about him in that respect. There's also like and as we're seeing now what was quite funny.

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Yeah. He's now actually really quite sad. Yeah. Like he looks terrible now. But yeah, the transformation into what he was like a couple of months ago to the he's like now he looks terrible. The rumors going around about him awful. Like if they're true like he's the lowest of the low. Yeah. And they probably are I mean callous fucking you'd cross the street not to be near these kids in real life.

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Yeah. And, he's beefing with everybody that he seems to me he falls out with. Yeah, that's just a nobody. And so. And now and now when now, when he's, if these, these accusations are correct, he's going to go to prison for a long time. Yeah. They're not correct. Then then he went like he said, like 7 or 8 people that he's met up in all these different places and he's fallen out of all of them.

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It's absolute mayhem. And I think that's what people were, like, obviously this feeds into his, his audience. And, not that people are enjoying like the alleged stuff that has gone on, but it's that kind of edge again, emotionally. Yeah. And it's like this EastEnders in real life, and it's fun when it's not you that's involved and you're watching this chaos unfold.

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And like this, the family dynamic of him and his brother falling out and his, his ex-partner with his kid, you know, they falling out and then there's, there's there's just a lot of people falling out with him and a lot of, you know, text messages showing the voice notes being played and people saying, oh, I hung around with him and this is what he's really like.

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And it's just I think we as people are feeding into this as much like, you know, where is to blame as to not as sorry, I was going to say we're to blame as for what he gets up to as a but we are we are feeding it. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And someone of that you know that would be, that would be quite influential to someone like him and and like all of the things that you, you know, do a little bit of gear every now and then, it's not the end of the world.

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But if you've done it 12 nights on the bounce and not sleep and it turns into a paranoid lunatic. Yeah. And people are going, yeah, go on, Danny boy. And then they're putting the phones down and going about their day for him. That's his life. That's validation. Yeah. To someone like him, that's that sort of power, you know, analyze him.

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Visit. I don't know anything about psychology, but you can imagine it. It's it's it's pleasing on a very visceral level to hear that shit. So, Yeah, I mean, we are people are scumbags as well, honey. Yeah. Well, I mean, I remember when I was younger and I'll do something stupid on a night out being pissed up and do, a flying jump into a bush.

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And he. But I was really funny. And then I'll do it again and again because of that. I don't know that validation of people enjoying what I'm doing. And then you just get egged on. And when you look back, you think, what the fuck was I doing, man? Yeah, well. Well, I was a city boy. What city boy did in the,

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He's already been in jail once, isn't he, Danny boy? For for birth. Yeah, I've. Yeah, I think he's been in jail a couple of times. Really? So, you know, if you. But, you know, if you believe what has been alleged, then I think he might be, spending some time, Her Majesty services, as they say. Yeah, I am.

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To change the subject to something a bit more, upbeat. I, I listen to a podcast the other day on, bottlenose dolphins. Oh, yeah. And they have corkscrew shaped cocks, and I think I think cats too, as well. Or. Yeah, I think pigs speaks pigs as well as pigs. I was thinking yeah, yeah, yeah. And and they were saying that that not that it's that it's the reason, but because they've got these, corkscrew styled cocks when they're mating with, female dolphins.

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And if the dolphins are like, you know what? I'm not actually kind of feeling this. They can. They'll move. And because it's a corkscrew shape, it's, you know, difficult to get into that space that they'll maneuver so that when the dolphins ejaculate, that it won't, you know, they won't get impregnated. Really. So it's like, yeah, yeah. Fucking brilliant.

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And then also like an inbuilt defense mechanism. Yeah. And then the, the which like the young male bottlenose dolphins, they, they regularly bum like bum each other. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah. Like love it actually love it. I think like homosexuality in animals is quite common, isn't it? Adolescence. Yeah. In adolescence when we young and it young dolphin adolescent.

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Yeah. But I didn't bring that up. What did I just said? A homosexual is prominent. He's the only adolescent dolphin to do it. Yeah, yeah I really. Yeah. No, not when they're older. Yeah, yeah yeah. They're not now. Right. So. So the young dolphins are fucking each other's asses, yeah. Specifically you're not just making up. It's their bum.

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Oh no no no no. Well, I think so. Yeah, they definitely said the word bombing. Definitely should do it. Bombing? What did they actually say? Yeah, I think they did. And, as the young bombing in a nature program, it wasn't a nature. It was a comedic podcast. But. So they use that. So they use that term.

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But the and the female dolphins, the young ones, they, rub each other's beans with their nose. So. So that all the young dolphins are just little sickos. A lot of them. Yeah, yeah. And then, another apes as well. A lot of bad men and apes. Really? Yeah. That's not surprising, actually. There's a lot of this going on.

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I don't, I don't I think you find the there's a, there's a broad like this idea of they've just been straight and gay and you're one or the other is is nonsense. Yeah, yeah. It's like it's it's so much more varied than that. But I imagine there are a lot of if it exists in the natural world, maybe it exists everywhere.

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It's just we've intellectualize everything to the point where it has to be one way or another. But really it's big. 50 Shades of gray, OJ, everyone's checking everyone. Yeah, like you. Do you reckon you could get an erection, maintain an erection of a bloke? Suck you off? Yes, probably. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you think you could keep the erection going?

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Yeah. I thought if I really concentrated and realize that. What? What was it? Number one? Don't look down. Number two, don't go to fucking anything. Caress the. Hey, don't put my. Run my fingers through the hair. I don't do that, though. Well, so if you say if you just close your eyes and just imagine you as a woman.

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So that's that's a no talking. That's a little bit homosexual. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if it was, if it if it was put on me in that way in that scenario then. Sure. Yeah. Well I know what I could you, I think I would lose it, but I who knows. I mean, I don't, I think, I think it would get harder.

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I don't think you can get any yeah. Yeah. I mean that's that's the I'd give it go if like, if I had to. Before I've actually like, No, I don't understand. Right. Is like women kissing women is the soft and then loving a man kissing a woman, you get to experience the softness of a woman.

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Two men. Yes. Hugging each other is to are too much. Yeah, yeah. And and. Yeah. Men aren't soft, are they? No. And I know that if you get into it, he's like that. You know, it's, it's often used a sort of comedic joke, but it's actually quite feminine to have sex with a woman. And the most masculine thing you can do is have sex with a man.

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Yeah. More masculine than fucking them. That's it. Yeah. That is the mark of a real man. I for them you're not. You can't say. Oh, well, I'm, I'm more masculine than you. Why? Because I have sex with women. Oh, well, you have sex with soft little women. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That smell of. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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And a little soft. And they're lovely and delicate. Yeah. But this keys over it's fucking a man is the opposite. It's the same as him fucking each other constantly. Like yeah that's peak masculinity. If you, if, if you know in terms of brute strength. Yeah. Yeah. So if you say you're you, you've stumbled across. Right. We've, we've landed on an island, man.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay. And with that right. We need to find some people to help us with. And you go in and there's these cave, there's two caves. And the job here is to find people to kill, hunt and kill animals, okay? And provide food for us. Yeah. We're going to try one cage. There's just two big hairy men fucking each other.

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And right, there's another big, hairy man, but lying next to a lovely little lady. Yeah, I'm taking the men to be the meat. Yeah, yeah, yeah I think. Yeah, I totally agree. Totally agree with that. I want to play the jungle. Yeah.

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Hello and welcome to the lads. Anonymous is episode 123. I'm Ricky Heath. I have two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and I'll feature something I know you know. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod. How are you, Flav? I'm right mate. Yes, just. Everything's fine. How are you?

00:16:46:11 – 00:17:11:17
Yeah. Oh, yeah. All good. My all good, I can't complain. The only thing I can complain about is the weather. Because this is because it's like every day from a mindfulness. Going for an hour walk first thing in the morning. It's something that I love to do. And today it was just. The weather was just so fucking awful I couldn't go out.

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So that's not that's annoyed me, but I don't know if you have any impact. Like, you know, you call it the wellness Walk. Yeah. Which is kind of like a hangover from Covid, I think. Yeah. Yeah it is. Yeah. At 100%. Yeah. But when I go for a walk I don't come back and go, right. I feel great now.

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I just have like I feel like I've done that. I should do that because get your steps in and make sure you are active. But, go back. Go right. That's. My head's fine, though. Do you? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. And do you think it's because it's, connected with your dog? It's like you're not going for it for yourself.

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You're going to walk your dog, so it's like a chore. So it's not. Yeah. Maybe because I have to do it because he's staring at me. So maybe that is because I'm approaching it with the wrong mindset. Maybe it's that. Yeah, but, then it just doesn't work. Just like if I'm stressed when I leave the house, I'm not unstressed because I've gone for an hour long walk, right?

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The thing is, when I go, when I go for a. Yeah, going, well, the same things that you are stressing you out don't disappear. You walked anywhere. Oh, no. Is that what you're able to process them better? Yeah. Well, what it is, is, I go first thing in the morning. Yeah. So I think morning time is, is a beautiful time of day when the world is just waking up.

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Yeah. How are you, man? It half seven. How far you. Well and, Well, I walk for, for an hour, so it's probably like 7000 steps in there or something like that. And it's always an hour. Always an hour sometimes. So depending on depending on what route, it could be an hour and eight minutes, or it could be 57 minutes.

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With the dog I tend to let the dog choose where we go day. Hey. Yeah. Because he because he's a fucking heavy lump stuff. Yeah, yeah, they are quite stubborn. And they'll say, I don't want to go this way, I want to go this way. And they'll stare at you and hunker down so that you, yeah, find them difficult to move.

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So I, I've just kind of like, why will Frank walk where he wants. And so and we end up going pretty much the same way every day. He likes this certain route. Right. Okay. And he always heads to my dad's house. Might not be directly to my dad's house. It might be around, but we it we will 100% pass my dad's when he's leading.

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And then we go in, I have a cup of tea and he gets it get, like a little play around the tree. Okay. Yeah. And Brad and, Yeah. So. Right, I get, I get that was that another thing is, well, when, when I'm on these walks, I walk at a very quick speed. So when I get back to my house, I've got a sweat on.

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Oh yeah. So it feels like I've had a workout. I've got a fresh, I've and it's the, I don't know if you call it like, endorphins where when you have a list of things to do and you tick something off, it's a good feeling. Yes. You've got that done. It's like getting that walk done. It's that tick as well to say, yeah, I've done my, you know, my well-being walk.

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Yeah, I kind of wish I hadn't brought it up now. Yeah I, I knew that. I knew that I have to be in the right mind space to talk about this, and I don't think I am in it today. Oh, okay. But I I'll try because okay. You're vulnerable in it. You have to be it's you're talking about something that isn't associated to something that's positive.

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And acknowledging it. Well, I guess is healthy is also, not necessarily fun. So when I came up with this idea, I felt fine about it, and now I feel less fine about it. I don't know what it is. Obviously going through a stressful time at the moment as well. So it's maybe it's some of that, but, I guess where did it come from?

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I think the last there have been issues, not not issues that they've been challenges in my life at the moment with this house and the move and stuff that I felt like I, I have to deal. I have to deal with it. Right? I have to find a way through these problems and no one else can. And that's quite a rare thing to be in a situation, to be put in, put in, because usually you'll have people around you or support mechanisms that might be able to take some of this load off.

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But there was no way of there was no way of of that happening. So there was decisions that had to be made and finding ways to, circumnavigate problems or create a solution to a problem that wasn't easy to do. You know, there was an there was an, an emotional and, what am I trying to say?

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The way past the problem that I had in front of me would meant to be doing something. I had to do something that was really uncomfortable and against everything I wanted to didn't want to do, basically. I don't want to go into the details of what it was. It was just basically all this point asking something of someone that I didn't want to have to do.

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Right. And so.

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In order to get to that situation, I found felt quite vulnerable, weak. Generally, I can figure things out how we how to move forward and how to get around something. And I just couldn't and that I felt quite vulnerable in that. And I felt like I was having to spend a lot of time in my own head. And then when you feel like that, then on top of the fact that you have to work to ensure that things go, or you can afford to buy things on top of the pressures that you got from, you know, other people that don't understand what you're going through meant that I found myself, for the first time

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in a long time, feeling pretty, pretty weak mentally. I guess that's where it come from. Mother, I can't eat, but I think that's what it was. The, May. I'm sorry to hear that, because I, Yeah, I know, but, like, this is the, this is like a typical male behavior. And when I say this right, and I know, like, I know everyone, suffers from feeling weak and stuff like that, but because we're men, then this is our experience.

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So, that's the angle. And we see that, I'm coming from it. But why? Why is it that we never talk about this? Like what? Like the the feeling of, being vulnerable? Why is it so, I why do you men run, run from it vulnerability I like I don't run from it. I don't run from it, I don't it's I think well I don't know what what is there to be gained by talking about it.

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Like, I don't think it fixes anything. Like if I'm talking to a professional counselor or something like that, maybe they'll be able to, over time, figure stuff out. But these were real, tangible problems that are not going to be solved by just having a chat about it like, I'm not. There's nothing you could have said to me that would have in any way made the situation better.

00:26:51:11 – 00:27:20:05
There's no there's not. No. But I feel like if you chat to someone about it and although I couldn't have given you a solution or whatever it might have been, that I think a problem shared is a problem halved. And although it. I know it's a nice sentiment, but no, it wasn't the the only thing that helped me is I need I could there was one.

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I spoke to my mum, I spoke to my dad. Yeah, I didn't feel better afterwards. I felt exactly the same because the problem hadn't shifted. Oh, if it's a conundrum, don't get me wrong, Rick. If you're having, like, problems with a person, say that person is, mistreating or being me or talk to you in that way, you can definitely in that instance, we can we can negotiate a way of thinking differently about that because it's yeah, like I'm not saying talking per se isn't helpful.

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And a problem halved problem serves as hard in certain circumstances. But when you if there's a brick wall, when it's very tall and I can only climb up it if someone lifts me up, there's no words I can say. You can make me get over that wall other than if they help me do it. What I needed people are not going to be able to offer.

00:28:12:06 – 00:28:36:20
So, it was about, you know, it's essentially not to be completely blunt. I've been talking around this, but I needed to raise a certain amount of money. Yeah, and I did, and I didn't know how I was going to do it. And there is you've made commitments and people have expectations of of that, you know, of what you're trying to do.

00:28:36:20 – 00:29:00:23
And it's trying to keep people happy, but also find a very real way of, of, of getting money in. I didn't I couldn't figure out how to do, and so talking about it was never going to help in this instance. But men do have a wider problem with locking up and shoving things down, for sure.

00:29:00:23 – 00:29:24:10
Yeah, yeah. When I was younger, I am I don't even know. I think I watched something and it was about crying and I was like, what is not? Why cry? It's never going to achieve anything. So just don't do it. Just don't cry. So I spent years, years of not crying because it's never going to achieve anything.

00:29:24:12 – 00:29:56:23
But sometimes you need that, emotional release that that outlet. And that's kind of like where I was thinking if when talking about stuff and how if you it's not going to solve the problem, but just getting stuff out there makes people feel better. But with men and being vulnerable, what like, why is it like a sign that we feel weak from it?

00:29:57:00 – 00:30:19:04
Like, I it's not until, like, with, my friendship group, this could be like a a wide kind of net or friendship group. I don't think we talk about stuff until it's on top, you know? I mean, like, it's not like.

00:30:19:06 – 00:30:43:23
Well, I'll only ever hear my mate say she's left me not. We're not speaking not. She said this. Not. She cheated on me. Not the all the other stuff that leads up to it. It's only the end stuff. Yeah, or my house had been repossessed. Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I didn't have any money. Like, when did this happen?

00:30:44:04 – 00:31:06:07
It all happened 18 months ago. We go to the pub every Friday together. Like, literally like how it, like, why is it that we can a guys we can never show that vulnerable side. And, what is what is being weak like, do you know what I mean? Not I think also because we don't want to hear it either, do we?

00:31:06:09 – 00:31:23:05
I think that's part of it. Yeah. Or don't want to admit that we need help. Like when you go down the pub and you're like, oh, I'm feeling pretty low. You like me, you want a pub, man? Like, I want to get away from that. Yeah. The last thing was a conversation with you. Like, that's where part of it you don't want to burden other people.

00:31:23:05 – 00:31:40:20
Well, you've gone out for punt few points, or you go into the football. You almost don't want to ruin everybody else's day. But when what point is supposed to sit down, go right? I'm in a bad way. Yeah. You don't do it in a football. You don't want to ruin people. You don't do it down the pub. But what point do you do it then?

00:31:40:20 – 00:31:59:04
If you if it's not there, if you if you do it would during work hours when someone's at work you bring them up. Oh they've been a hard night live. Had a hard day at work. You're going to ring up in the evening. In the evening? Like when do you. Yeah you don't. I think it comes from a place of not wanting to be a burden to your friends as well.

00:31:59:09 – 00:32:23:14
And then like, like, say, if someone lost their house or something, you. That's news that can't be avoided. Right. So that's, that's sort of that's coming up. It's coming up because you might bring it up. Yeah. But but do you I think in British culture maybe elsewhere, that we do have a penchant for not wanting to ruin and someone else's day.

00:32:23:16 – 00:32:45:09
And I've kind of, I kind of like I understand I understand that, and I understand it gets to a point. Like, I'll call my mum pretty much if, like, if I need something, if I need some advice, I'll call my mum. And she'll, she'll always give it to me. And she's very good. And so. And that's what she wants.

00:32:45:09 – 00:33:14:01
And I know she wants that. But your mates, I would argue, despite the amazing work that that's been done in terms of encouraging men, especially to talk to each other because suicide remains the biggest killer of young men. Yeah, on top of that, which is really positive and important on top of it, you've still got this sort of pre coded idea that you don't shit on other people's doorsteps.

00:33:14:01 – 00:33:33:23
Pretty much. So I think that's just getting away from that's important. But your true friends you can talk to but I, I my assumption when I'm going through stuff is that I can't I'm not going to gain anything by making your diary worse, for example. And I don't believe there's anything you can say to make my situation better.

00:33:33:23 – 00:33:54:20
So I'm just not going to have the conversation, even if that's wrong. That's right. I kind of my brain would be yeah, no no no I can't. Yeah I did get that. I totally get that. Yeah. I think I think you're, I think you should maybe look at it differently and, maybe give me a call when I can make you laugh.

00:33:54:20 – 00:34:15:19
It might not get the, Yeah. The the problem away. Like a good belly laugh. Like every time when I. If there have been loads of times that I'm feeling vulnerable, I'm feeling shit, I'm feeling down or whatever. And then we record, the fighting cock and I'm just pissing myself laughing. And after that, I come away. My car still fucked.

00:34:16:00 – 00:34:35:22
But I feel so much better than I did. You're right there in the levity, and just speaking to other people changes your mood for sure. That can help. But the other thing is, is when you're that we're forced together to talk because we did a podcast. So and we're doing this now, whereas this is like an appointment for a conversation, right?

00:34:35:24 – 00:35:01:13
Most of the time when you're feeling vulnerable, you feel sad. You're running away from it as well. At the same time, you're not sitting there thinking, oh God, I feel fat, sad, I feel terrible. This is terrible. You're trying your best to get away from it within yourself. Yeah. So it's it's it's it's to stop doing that and let's face it, head on it so it doesn't even it almost feels unnatural to do that.

00:35:01:15 – 00:35:26:13
Like, yeah, I if I've got problems and the things I need to do to solve those problems or difficulties I have to overcome, I don't really want to. It's the human thing, is to sort of do everything you can to not feel bad about it. And like underneath, like tackling it head on can be difficult, I think. Yeah.

00:35:26:13 – 00:35:47:05
I mean like, would you in our WhatsApp groups, like would you feel comfortable like dropping in to the lads like like I'm not, I'm not, I'm not feeling. It's like I'm, I'm fucking feeling like shit. I went on the overlap and someone said something and I've just been thinking about it all day, and I. And I feel terrible.

00:35:47:07 – 00:36:10:18
Or is it like you just thought, oh, I'll just get on with it? I seem to recall at one point in the past I have gone into the group and said, I don't feel great, but I can't remember what that was about. Yeah, typically not. I don't think any of us with. No.

00:36:10:20 – 00:36:42:21
No, you're right. And no, I have breaks down. You might you won't say the emotional impact that's having on you. You would just go, oh yeah. And in our group when in the old group, people just make fun of it anyway. Yeah. It's that that's the thing. And although, like, I know that if I, if I, I know if I, if I drop something in the lads WhatsApp chat, every single person there would be back in my corner and stuff like that.

00:36:42:21 – 00:37:05:14
Yeah. And be supportive and, and everything. But I wouldn't be like on a Tuesday morning lads. I've got some news. I'm really stressed. Donald cheated on me or something like that. You just wouldn't, would you? It's like, I don't know. And like I said, like it would be to the end. It'd be like, I'm moving out and people out.

00:37:05:15 – 00:37:33:19
What, you mean you moving out? And then that. Because that's the finality of it. Of where I have to show my hand because it's the corner I've been backed into. There is like, why is it that we've, weakness or vulnerability that we. It's a kind of a there's a lock in a stick, a stigma attached to that emotion.

00:37:33:21 – 00:37:57:03
You'd have no problem saying that I'm exhausted or I feel ill or whatever, but if you if you were to say, I'm feeling down or I'm feeling a bit weak because when I had a team meeting, my boss spoke over me and he made me look really small. I think it's what societal positioning of men, isn't it?

00:37:57:03 – 00:38:25:16
And what a man should be. And, yeah, I think there's an element of that. And I think for a long time men showing like, imagine this when you're ill, like a man can't have flu. Yes, I man flu. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Women. A woman can be as ill and she wants to because she. Yeah. There's this idea that they're sort of they deal with it.

00:38:25:16 – 00:39:02:23
I think that probably comes from childbirth and pregnancy and stuff. Yeah. That men are not really allowed to feel it or uncomfortable or, or and with that vulnerable, there's definitely an issue. There's definitely something that exists because it wouldn't be free and forced suicides happening to men if there wasn't something going on where men unable to or not valued enough, or not encouraged to do what they needed to do in order to be open, and that's probably been baked in for decades and decades and decades and decades, maybe instinctually baked in, I don't know.

00:39:03:00 – 00:39:28:07
But, so yeah. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. The man flu thing, that's that's quite interesting. But if you are feeling like shit you mentioned earlier about the the joke, the joke penis of a of lads WhatsApp group or whatever, like is there anything that you do that can that would make you feel better in these circumstances?

00:39:28:07 – 00:39:52:00
If you do feel weak, like, and you mentioned that you speak to your mum like my fucking mum is on speed dial. Any problem I have? If it's too windy outside, I'll give her a call, you know, I mean, I'm fucking. That is just, you know, if I, if I'm ever in a bind or ever in, I don't know what to do or I'm seeking out advice.

00:39:52:02 – 00:40:00:21
Even if I know the answer myself, I will always call my mum. And if I.

00:40:00:23 – 00:40:22:23
So I have obviously the big WhatsApp groups where there's like it's a Latin there and it's a fucking it's a bit of a shark fest, you know. I mean, you drop something in there that you show a bit of a weakness and everyone is like bantering you. But if it's something that's quite big, like life changing or something that you know, this isn't something to be joked about, people are generally fine.

00:40:23:00 – 00:40:48:24
But I wouldn't share it in those groups. But I have smaller groups, like with the two owners, that I'm that I'm in a WhatsApp group with, and with that one because it's smaller and manageable, and I know that they're not going to be, chatting behind my back, find it funny, or I always knew that was going to happen or typical, you know, blah, blah blah, but they'll be there for me.

00:40:49:01 – 00:41:01:02
So like, they are you able to have a release anywhere outside or is it you just kind of feel the burden yourself?

00:41:01:04 – 00:41:06:16
I think.

00:41:06:18 – 00:41:34:23
I largely I would just do I mean, I don't know about I don't know how to answer that, but I in a way that I haven't already. But there's other people sort of close to me, like they've lost people and you can see they're broken by it. They can see they're really struggling to deal with the loss of that person, and they chose not to seek help, whereas other people might do or definitely would have done.

00:41:34:23 – 00:41:56:12
I think I would have done if I lost someone as close to me as they did. And and so, no. And there is no outlet other than when you get to a point where they just explode in emotion, where they can't be in anymore, and they keep going to that point and then they might feel a bit better, and then it will builds up again.

00:41:56:12 – 00:42:06:22
So I think it's not just me. I think you said most people are not going into WhatsApp groups. I can't remember any the last time anybody.

00:42:06:24 – 00:42:32:09
Messaged me and said, I need help with this. I'm struggling mentally. I don't think it's ever happened in my entire life. No, I'm trying to think of a time now where, someone has done that to, I think people have people have put their head above the parapet and said, you know, I'm I'm not feeling great.

00:42:32:11 – 00:42:54:21
And we've been part of that, you know, WhatsApp group, but nothing that is not nothing that's regular, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's like like Alex, for example, when he had health anxiety. So he does have health anxiety, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then. Yeah, but he didn't say it like it would disappear for a couple of weeks and then then he'll come back and goes I was worried if I had, you know, bowel cancer or some issues.

00:42:54:23 – 00:43:16:20
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And either carry a hot carry or something like that. He's always like trivial. But that's not how we. Yeah. How he, how he's, how his brain approaches those situations. And it was only after he got the all clear, I think it was at 840 at 8 p.m., which is, you know, when someone thinks they've got Aids and it turns out they haven't got Aids can actually be quite funny, right?

00:43:16:20 – 00:43:34:03
In terms of like, you know, WhatsApp groups. We you know, we was that what do you mean you thought you had Aids. And it was like, it's all of these things. I had a I was it's all sort of my tongue. And you know, I googled it and it says it's HIV. And like, mate, usually every symptom it comes up, you might have HIV.

00:43:34:05 – 00:44:00:04
It has it doesn't all the time. But he's he's brain isn't he's not able to do that. And he didn't get from us or didn't seek from us. And he's I'm any support because all he wanted is for a doctor to say there's nothing wrong with you. That's that was the answer he needed. Yeah. Whereas that might be other people.

00:44:00:04 – 00:44:17:09
It seems to be women are much better at doing this to men is they'll talk through this. Let's talk it through and over and not spend an hour on the phone talking about the different things that are happening, the problems at work and stuff like that. I think it's that one of the reasons I married my wife is because it can.

00:44:17:11 – 00:44:43:06
It can get like, sometimes I wish I would, I was I'd like to know what was going through her mind. But my previous girlfriend, she would tell me everything that was going through her mind, and it was exhausting. Okay. Yeah. So it's almost like this. The calmness that comes with my wife is so infectious that, I don't know why I'm saying this, because it's nothing to do with the point.

00:44:43:11 – 00:45:04:22
I'm just saying I don't I don't, the the she's, like, built I think she's built in terms of really approaches things like a man to some degree and like in a way her brain works. But I think overall you're in a better position if you are constantly sort of taking the poison out, for want of a better expression.

00:45:04:24 – 00:45:23:10
Yeah. My, but you got to be careful about how much other people are absorbing because you can be exhausted. There are some people I have no shut off. I've had been in certain circumstances in my life, right? Where someone has dumped so much of me that I've had to tell them that. You've got to stop. I'm having this problem, okay?

00:45:23:12 – 00:45:41:00
This is my thing. And then this went wrong with me. And then, having this really issue with work, and I don't know what to do, and, but in the end, does I stop talking to me? Yeah. I know how exhausting this is. Listening to you moan about everything all the time. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

00:45:41:02 – 00:45:48:11
I've I've experienced that, by the way. Oh, really? Yeah. Barely laughing about.

00:45:48:13 – 00:46:19:09
Probably about 14 years ago I think. Oh okay. Since that day. Shit. Really. It just goes to show it wasn't a friendship, was it? No. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I've been in similar situations myself where it is like, if it feels like one way traffic and it's just like their feelings and emotion is then passed to me, and then I sit with it and it's like, right, what do I do with this?

00:46:19:09 – 00:46:46:15
And even though you kind of talk them up, or no matter how much kind of, you know, positive mindset and speaking to them, it's just yeah, it it's not fucking, it's not great. Yeah. I was going to, Oh, I was going to say, is there anything that where, you've been secretly vulnerable about that you haven't told the lads, but I think I guess you've you've already spoken about it.

00:46:46:17 – 00:47:13:12
So I mean, at the top of me. So mine, which cut me really deeply. And I hadn't realized how bad it was at the time. You would have realized, when I was made redundant. Yeah. And I had all these feelings that I. I didn't know how to deal with, and I felt incredibly weak from it.

00:47:13:14 – 00:47:38:16
Like, the feelings of betrayal from my boss and my colleagues, the feeling of shame and embarrassment that, you know, my job was made for redundancy because it wasn't deemed important or I wasn't doing a good job, and it was a reflection on me and about my personality or my character. So all of this stuff was, weighing really heavy on me.

00:47:38:18 – 00:48:08:05
And it did make me feel weak because, you know, weak in the fact that all of that had happened to me. And that's why I was singled out about that, but also weak in the fact that I wasn't dealing with it. You know, I mean, I felt weak because I was feeling weak because I could deal with these emotions and stress and anxiety and all eyes on me.

00:48:08:05 – 00:48:39:19
And so I just didn't know what to do. And in that instance, I went to, I did get counseling. As much as you hated that job. And, you know, and but. Yeah, but you but I know this is not as simple as that, obviously, because it's going into how you feel valued. And despite not wanting to do the job, you you know, it's still people, been critical of your work or you felt that it was somehow a personal attack on you.

00:48:39:21 – 00:48:58:21
So those things are more important than. But when you was talking to me, as I wrote, there is an anxiety about paying a mortgage and having a job and and that kind of stuff, which is very real. And, trust me, I, I appreciate that now more than ever, but the,

00:48:58:23 – 00:49:07:02
Like, it's mental that you was like, I fucking hate this job, I hate it. I've got to go into the office tomorrow and I will kill myself.

00:49:07:04 – 00:49:24:00
I'm going to kill. What if I have to go back in that office? I'm going to do it. And like, it was a joke as a joke, and. Yeah. And yet it can absolutely destroy you. By the same token, like, the best thing that happened to you was getting made redundant. The best thing? Yeah, but it's how. Yeah, it's how you choose.

00:49:24:00 – 00:49:40:10
It's not even how you look. It comes down to this, and I try to be. And I'm not this, and I aim to be it. But there's a school of thought. It's called stoicism. Where?

00:49:40:12 – 00:50:05:24
You are not in control of what happens in the world. And in some instances, you're not in control of what happens to you. Yeah. You can get sick, your loved ones can get sick, you can lose your job because fucking Network Rail was hemorrhaging money. That's wonderful. But it's happening to you. Yeah. You can be riding a bike and hit a pothole and fly over it and smash your face, right?

00:50:06:00 – 00:50:30:13
All of these things you can't avoid. It's dark. You didn't see it? Oh, yeah. But what you can do is choose how you react to it. Yeah, like something bad might be happening. But how do you react? How do you react to it? How do you allow that to affect you? And the greatest Stoics are ones that are look at a situation go, I didn't make this happen, but I can do something about how it affects me.

00:50:30:13 – 00:50:55:06
That's the only control I have is how do I let this affect me. And I used to fancy myself as a bit of a stoic. And then I've realized, and that's because nothing was wrong, was going, nothing was going wrong in my life. You. Yeah. I'm very stoic or very stoic or when. Yeah. Everything's fine. Yeah. It's only when you really test it, you realize how not, stoic who you are or not stoic.

00:50:55:08 – 00:51:14:00
Yeah. Like, I can't, like, I've got these problems. I can't be indifferent to them. I have to feel these problems in order for me to do what I need to do to get out. Yeah, but the best, the most healthiest way of that would have been this. Everything's going to be okay, right? This isn't going to kill me.

00:51:14:02 – 00:51:39:04
This isn't. Yeah. You know, we're not going to lose. You know, I just I don't I mean, it's I strive to be a true stoic. That's what I try to do. Yeah. I remember when I, when I was going through the redundancy on the phone to you about and you were, even I was in the mire of why me personal a character.

00:51:39:06 – 00:52:04:07
I do a great job, all of these things. And you were like, my. It isn't. It's not about you. You're like, don't take it personally. It's it's not to do with you and your character is headcount redundancy, you know, org chart some person at the top and all that like but I when you're in the midst of it, it's really hard to kind of see past your own.

00:52:04:09 – 00:52:31:09
What's the word, your own kind of truth, if you will like that. Because this is what you believe. So you can't really look, look through that. But then once you're out from the other side and you're looking back, and then you remember these conversations and obviously feeling weak through it, and then you, chatting me, talking to me and getting me through it and giving me options that I didn't see.

00:52:31:11 – 00:52:59:22
I couldn't hear because of the way that I felt is that I don't know, is, Yeah, I guess that's why I talk is important and it's it's just like change in perspective and like, but it wasn't those conversations. It was your it was your work. Constant work in in therapy. Yeah. Really made those change. And that's what I'm saying is like it's one thing talking to your mates, but really open yourself up to the idea that you can speak to a counselor.

00:52:59:22 – 00:53:25:06
It can be like life changing because, they're trained, they know, they know it to say they've experienced it before and they've had success. We know that counseling works. I interviewed a guy called Sam Gilley. He's a boxer. And yeah, he's fighting. He's fighting at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium on the undercard of the abandoned kind of the corner of Ben and Chris Eubank on Saturday.

00:53:25:06 – 00:53:45:02
You might have listened to this Monday as what already happened, but he. Yeah, he's parents got divorced and he lost his not only was really close to and he was but he was all over the place and he told the story that he was going Spurs, his big Spurs fan and he goes every home game sits in this house that.

00:53:45:04 – 00:54:07:12
Oh yeah, you might, you probably even seen him Rick. Okay. He's fighting tomorrow at 530. You should check it out. I will be, he's coming in boy Spurs stuff. The, And it was his mum locked him in the car, said you're not leaving until we deal with this. And we talk about this and we say all you over me and your dad splitting up.

00:54:07:12 – 00:54:25:00
And he was like, no. And are you over your or are you dealing with rather right over it? Are you dealing with. Yeah. Than passing away. And he's like no. And obviously he was say anything to get out this car. But she said, look, I've set some counseling up for you. You're not leaving this car until you agree to do it.

00:54:25:02 – 00:54:53:03
And you should sit the way he talks about this as if it was like this. These sessions with this counselor changed his life completely. And if he hadn't, if you like most many would have just chosen to ignore it, to sit on it, to sit with the grief of losing his nan and and then losing the, the the idea that these parents are secure and together, he would have never he might have processed it to some point down the line, but this sort of accelerated his recovery.

00:54:53:05 – 00:55:16:20
And now he's fighting for a British title at Tottenham. That's fucking that's called a name. That is. I mean, yeah, I was, I was the same. I like going counseling. It really did change me. Like hugely changed me. You know, you have to put a lot of work into it as well yourself and a lot of questions you ask of yourself and, you know, thinking about things and process and stuff and it's and it's tough.

00:55:16:20 – 00:55:43:20
But, I yeah, I've just completely come out the other side and I feel I'm not, you know, not I don't think I'll ever be, you know, 100%. But I am always working on myself. I know a lot of triggers and the things that have made me feel weak in the past, that generally speaking, I would be able to deal with it a lot better than I would back then.

00:55:43:22 – 00:56:07:12
Just when I read one email out before, we move on. So this is sent into, Latin on the current job I have that I'm very close to, leaving is at a place with a very challenging culture, and my boss is not the best. This past month, I was given feedback by my boss that I'm too helpful.

00:56:07:14 – 00:56:32:07
Be less helpful. It's just your personality. Maybe you should change some of that. I need you to tone down the kindness, because the guys out in the field see you as weak. The last one is what brought me here. The other quotes give you some context of the culture I'm being asked to assimilate into you. Why does kindness have to be seen as weakness?

00:56:32:09 – 00:56:53:07
It happens with women too. It's dumb. So yeah, I mean there is a yeah, it's a job. You getting out of that. That doesn't sound like a good environment to be in at all. And you think about how much you might be on great money. It might be sales and maybe sales out in the field means it maybe isn't.

00:56:53:07 – 00:57:18:10
Maybe it's military, I don't know. Yeah. But whatever it is, it doesn't sound like those are good people at all. Or maybe all good people, but they're just completely assimilated by their job. But yeah. Good. Get out of that one. Sounds like you made the right choice. Yeah, exactly. And like, again, like kindness and weakness. I'm always of the mind of, killing with kindness.

00:57:18:14 – 00:57:50:10
That's how I operate. Anyone. And I'm always trying to be the best and most helpful or most caring and listening or whatever, but I'll never kind of be that also. And like I've said, you, it's it's, you know, it's good that you're getting out there. Right. We will jump along to we've actually got a voice note for and another thing which is fantastic and something only you know and the something only you know is called no more late night visits.

00:57:50:12 – 00:58:17:05
And the voice note well, I know she named the voice and I, but the topic for next week is the internet part two. So we did the internet episode. It's it's actually just called the internet and it's episode eight and it was recorded on April the 7th. We spoke about our first foray to the internet, our first computers, MSN, and the first porn I downloaded.

00:58:17:07 – 00:58:38:13
And at your at out of control control. Do do do do do do do and a controlled they if you, if you somehow listen to these episodes. Let's not do this. But I've missed the internet episode. Go and listen to it. That is so funny. You will watch it. You can go watch it on Patreon.

00:58:38:15 – 00:58:56:21
Exactly. And that's the one that's free. So go watch it, man. Anyone can fucking draw at a kitchen. And that was, you know, that was the episode where you were going off about your, fitness watch, but you had to sleep. Yeah. And it's like you woke up and you're like, what have I done today? Fair, fucking fair, mate.

00:58:56:21 – 00:59:22:01
It's so funny, man. It's fucking brilliant. Yeah. So part two is going to be about memes, internet culture trends, weird and fascinating communities online. The treasure trove that is the internet. If you have anything that you like to share any stories, send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com. And we of course will read them out.

00:59:22:06 – 00:59:37:00
Now we're going to be going into a voice night for. And another thing we're going to play Jingle first. Yeah. Okay. Well obviously and another thing and.

00:59:37:02 – 00:59:54:22
And another thing. Yeah. Yeah. Couldn't agree more than I was saying. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Learning of a thing. Oh. Oh, shit, I like.

00:59:54:24 – 01:00:17:18
What's up, Ricky. And I hope you guys are good. Love the show. Definitely helps when the days get a little long and boring. So appreciate your efforts. Keep it up. I'm Josh from Nashville, proud member of the Nashville Spurs supporters group. Up the Spurs. And up Nashville. Love those folks. And yeah, I have an and another thing for you guys.

01:00:17:22 – 01:00:41:02
So here it is. I don't know if this is the same in all corners of the world, or if this is the United States thing. So maybe your listeners can, you know, weigh in on this and let me know. But, man, I'll tell you, any small electronic device these days comes with only a USB charger. So it doesn't come with like the outlet that you can plug into the wall.

01:00:41:04 – 01:01:00:18
It comes with just a frickin shitty little USB cable. And you know what? Is it even a USB-C? Oh no no no no, sir. No. It's one of those old school USBs, the big fat ones that basically everyone has thrown away those charging blocks for because no one fucking has them anymore. So what are we doing here? Is this the same?

01:01:00:24 – 01:01:27:01
I swear my kids nightlight their toothbrush, the stupid little fan that they convince me to get even this crazy underwater vacuum thing that I got. It all requires a USB port to charge, and I'm just like, what is happening here? Why can't we not just plug these things in with the regular plug anymore? I'm sure there's some weird loophole tax whatever thing that makes this possible, but damn it, it's annoying.

01:01:27:03 – 01:01:56:24
You know what? Reject modernity. Embrace tradition. I want the traditional old school outlet for my kids stuff. Okay. Rant over. Up the spurs, up the lads. Let's go. He's right, he's right. Like, yeah, where is that? Why? Why don't we get plugs anymore? No, we run out of plugs because eventually we'll get a break. How would you charge this shit?

01:01:57:04 – 01:02:17:03
It's everything that I get now. I don't get a plug. It's just a cable. And it's a shit cable. And they break all the fucking time, and they're not gonna charge in my bedroom. Now we've got a load of charges round, but like the cables, they're just so fucking temperamental. Like, I'll plug my phone in and it's charged in.

01:02:17:03 – 01:02:34:11
I sleep and I wake up and it's not. So you were when I went to bed. You were fucking working. You were charging what was going on? Yeah. It's weird. Like you get a new phone and it's like you used to get a plug with it or no laptop plug. They just get a fucking USB lead. Yeah, you sort the plug out, I want to.

01:02:34:11 – 01:02:56:02
Yeah, I was looking for a new plug and new charger. Right. Yeah, this new site. But I'm Samsung I get Samsung charger I think right this fast super fast charging and stuff. That was I think it's like an industry. It's an industry to to get people to buy plugs separately. Fucking out of order. It's what. No it round our house.

01:02:56:02 – 01:03:12:20
It's what I like when there are chargers and everyone uses the same fucking chargers. And it's like motto a be like you charging your phone. I'm like, yeah, I am. What percentage of you are? Yeah, yeah. Don't worry about my what the yeah yeah.

01:03:12:22 – 01:03:40:19
Yeah. Like what. Nothing's going to change. But you telling me what percentage you know, what is it, 78. Oh no no, no. What you're charging. I'm on 30. Yeah, I'm only on 12. Sounds like you problem. Yeah, that sounds like a you problem. Yeah. Exactly that. Right. We are now going to be going into something only you know.

01:03:40:21 – 01:03:55:06
Yep. We will be just sick. Yeah. It's it's worth it for like for second jingle it is. Go. Wow. Something, you know.

01:03:55:08 – 01:04:25:09
Yes. Go. No more late night visit. I was at my gaff late evening following visiting my dad and stepmom. I'd been at this early evening for a catch up after work. I pop round there every Tuesday as I always do. Standard. I got home and I realized I had left my phone charger there. I drove back to my old man's and let myself in through the kitchen, which is their back door.

01:04:25:11 – 01:04:51:08
I walked in and there were three shirtless men there. They were all having a drink and laughing. I grabbed my charger from the kitchen side. I could hear a loud female moan coming from the lounge. I tried to listen and I heard my dad distinctly say, that's it, take his dick. Well, I quickly left and went home.

01:04:51:10 – 01:05:12:24
I think I walked in on my old man and stepmom swinging or some shit like that. I haven't been able to get this out of my mind and I had to get it off my chest for the lads. Please keep me in on the best. We always keep you anonymous and that is something I only I know. But when did this happen?

01:05:13:01 – 01:05:27:09
It didn't put a timeframe on it. That's not recent. Yeah, I know, I mean, that's fucking man that would be ringing around in my head. Yeah. That's it. Take his dick.

01:05:27:11 – 01:05:51:00
I mean, there's lots of swinging going on the, Yeah. Rick, I think what you should change the rules. You've got everyone's information, like, even everyone's use email to it, and they might not use a fake email, but they trust you never to give their actual information across, which is really good. You've never done that, Rick. But now, if you want your anonymity to be continued to be protected, you have to be on Patreon.

01:05:51:00 – 01:06:21:00
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