#131 | Pub Culture | The Great British Boozer

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Right. So I was talking about. Right. We're talking about in the, in the group, we're talking about Hamburg. And I went to Hamburg and it was like, I got to say, the one of the most sort, not as I saw it, is sort it, it was it was like, you think Amsterdam is sorted. It ain't. It hasn't got that energy.

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Hamburg got a different energy. It was just, it just felt like everyone was on heat. It was pride. Oh. Oh. Okay. Yeah. So we went to pride as a part of of my mate stag do. We went to pride up into pride in Brighton. That was cool. It's quite time till about 10:00 and it got a little bit hands you then.

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Oh well I was with my wife though, so we didn't get handsy back, but he, But in Hamburg it was mad. Like I had someone stuck a sticker on my back that just said, come inside me. Oh, my lord. It was on my back for about three hours. I didn't even know.

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My mate, he's a very good looking chap. He were just the leader. And it was his thing. James. Yeah. And he just was a leader. House leader, housing. And you can imagine the attention he was getting. I mean, he's a pretty boy, is very handsome. Yeah, yeah. And, so anyway, about this random encounter that I had.

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Right. So I, we, we got back to the hostel where we were staying, and my, I go back to the hostel website and, and all the lights went to bed, and I was right. Typical of me of the time. I just wasn't ready for bed. I didn't want to go to bed. Yeah, sure. I just wanted to stay up and, you know, get up.

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Yeah, yeah, you're in it. You're in a city like you when you're in a way that you like that. Yeah, but it was about two hours. It was nice about off one my in the morning I was in the Well yeah. And I was in the bar and I was just. And then the barman was just chatting to the barman sound geezer.

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And he goes, do you want to do a line? And I was obviously I wanted a line. Yeah. I was like, yeah, yes, please. Anybody come out, come to the back. So I went into the back. He got his cock out, okay, went into the back and there was a pot wash there as well. And so right up three lines, we just bossed three lines.

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Nice. And we was like. And I was like, cool. So obviously then the chats guide and put the place closer to someone like that and he ordered one in. So we just went out into the night, me and this bloke, I just met it behind the bar at the hostel, the barman. And the pot was not a pot.

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And he, we, we just walked out into the night in Hamburg. It was in the summer, so it was quite balmy, but of course appears in the, off license. I was just walking around Hamburg doing gear with his keys. I just man, all we went. We sat on a park bench for about two hours in the middle of Hamburg, just chatting, and I felt like I'd known this bloke my entire life.

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I felt like I was getting to know him forever. It was the most intense, amazing, weird experience that's so difficult to explain. And he said, and we just kept going through the night until the train started running and he said, my missus is going to kill me. I've done it again. And I was like, what have you done?

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He goes on, I'll do this sort of thing. I end up not supposed to be finishing work, and then I don't come home. Well, this is going to leave me this time. Well, I hope I hope she doesn't. Anyway, he got on the train. He goes, I'll see you tonight cos I'm working tonight. I'll come out with you boys.

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We will go to Hamburg. Use English, expat English. Right. Okay, okay. There's. I'll come out with you boys into Hamburg. After, after after my shift. I was all right. Sweet. And then I thought also, I've got I've got data here. I've got someone who can sort me out because. Oh, you can go all you, all we got.

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All we could go to at the time was on Hamburg was street dealers are just so. Nothing basically. Yeah. Yeah. And so he didn't show. He didn't show for shift. No. Oh, no. Yeah. And I didn't see him. And I didn't never seen him again since. And I don't know his name. His name? You don't know.

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And I say cut him up on nothing. Oh, no. He's gone. But, Ricky, it was like it it like I had known him my entire life. It was bizarre. I mean, I I'm, I'm half considering it didn't even happen that I was so fucked that I'd made it or like, you know, like, can get somebody Magnolia, MDMA. It may be.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is like a Fight Club type thing. Yeah. But I think about him every now and then they probably somebody and like, I wonder where he is and what he's doing. This would have been ten years ago. Now it is. Yeah. Isn't it mental and wonderful that I mean, the bit about what you said to me that, all the bars, the chat, and you just got a crate, a beer, and you just walking around Hamburg drinking beer and sitting on park benches.

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I mean, that's fucking wild. Yeah. Like thinking back to, yourself then and then to yourself now in your shoes. It's like. What? Who was that guy? I don't know, man. It was cool. Fucking. Yeah, that's what he was. He was cool. And that that is it. He said like, life is about.

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It's about doing things like, I know, like, it's easier when you're inebriated. And obviously drugs make you make bad decisions or good decisions, whatever. But like, I don't know. Yes, I'm mad what things can happen. It was it was really like quality, quality evening. I loved it and I got into bed about, oh, past eight in the morning.

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And then and yeah, that was it, mate. That was just stood a while. I popped into my head. We were talking about what? What was your what what did the stag. The stag pie. What did they say? Like where you been? What's what's black and what have you just got it now? No, I didn't I didn't know him, so I didn't know I didn't know them.

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The amount of, things like that that happened. Like back, back, like back in the day at your brother's flat in, where was the flat? Holloway road. Right. Flat? Yeah, it was up on Holloway, right? Yeah, it's just off. Just off of that. I the the times where we would go out and party and just the random people that would be back in that flat, and we would just chatting all night, and I'd have them on Facebook and we were like best mates.

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I'd never seen or heard from them ever again. No. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the glory of these of the authors in that. Yeah. I mean, that flat was meant to say what Ricky is describing, and it's my brother Ryan said that was off of mutual friend Guy. It's probably listen to this. Actually, we'd go back to the flat and we just got absolutely mangled.

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Actually, there was. That's what I said because it might expose the, we go back to this flat after being out in our angel, whatever. And it's great because it's like he's just somewhere to go. And it was safe and it was nice. And Guy and Ryan were play fighting. Do you remember this? Was she there? Yeah. He was that help save money.

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Was it helped clean up the energy? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Ryan and they were fighting then Ryan at, I think was like a bread knife. And guy had, a cardboard tube. Yeah, like a kitchen in there of a kitchen row. Yeah. Like. Yeah. And he's hitting Ryan with the tube. And Ryan's picked up the knife and started slashing back up trying to chop the tube or something.

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And he's hit guy on the arm and he's fucked him. Basically. Severed guy's severed both his tendons. They went up into his arm. You to have an operation?

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And, that was a peak night. And I was still I was flying at that point as well. I was, I, I can't I can't cope with everywhere. My little brother Ryan didn't even take him to the hospital. My little brother took him to the hospital, and I picked him up. Well, Ryan was doing pretty shocking, but fuck you.

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I'm so.

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Going to run the, the tune. Oh, yeah.

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Run the theme tune. Singing the thing. I always wanted to do that.

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The night hazy light, Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music. So I, we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Hello and welcome to Latino. Now this is episode 131. I'm Ricky, he's flat two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature. Something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going from. Are you annoyed like I am that I've woken up this morning and I was promised a blizzard, a snow blizzard to be snowed in, to not be able to move out of my house because there was a cloud of snow and there is nothing yet.

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Wind and rain. It seems to be consistency with this like storm that we've been there, talked up this fucking storm correctly or something. Whatever his name is, I don't know why isn't it should be a I don't want sign Jesus here. Anyway. Fuck life. My my dad bought four days worth of food because he thought he was going to be snowed in.

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That's what happens, right? I was like that. I'm pretty sure it's going to be all right. I don't think you going to get snowed in. And, I woke up. I mean, no, I mean, it rained a bit. I couldn't even tell if it was especially windy. And that was it. Where we are. Yeah, it was nothing.

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But I woke up, and BBC is trying to tell me 10,000 people are without power. All right, if you say so. Let's let's stop saying the UK will be hit by a snow storm. When you're talking about Scotland as well. Yeah, it doesn't count if you are Scottish is. Scotland is. It's a part of the UK. I get it technically, but when you say that we think we're going to get covered in snow, which is what we want.

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Yeah, yeah yeah, exactly. False promises. This is what makes us not believe in you. Yeah. We don't believe in trust. You ought to be. Oh, weather on satellite people. We don't believe in any of you. Yeah, and I want my snow topped things off like one of our mates, Alex, a message in the WhatsApp group. He lives in Telford.

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Fucking caked in snow. It's literally caked. It is the big. It is the Midlands of the Midlands and sort of North Midlands. I thought you'd have it, I know, I know, know in the Midlands you know. Ha ha ha ha ha. You nearly I think Milton Keynes sits in this weird little kind of, crate. So when there's weather happening, it happens all around us.

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But it's never Milton Keynes, it's never us. And it annoys me so fucking much, I wouldn't it be snotty, but lying about it's just fucking right. When I thought we'd have localized flooding at least. I went for a walk this morning, and I thought that I thought the river would burst its banks. Nope. Fine. Absolutely not. But one thing I did notice, and maybe the guy who listens, who knows about, the scientific guy who knows about tsunamis.

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You know who I'm talking about? And I know you listen to this, and I know it's nothing different. And the only kind of, relevance is it's both water based questions. But I went to the canal today, and in my entire life, I have never seen it so clear. I could see the bottom of. Really? Oh, I was taking photos.

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Yeah, just this weird guy taking photos of the canal. I could see the bottom of it. Why does that happen? Because he's using the canals. They usually just brown water. Really? Typically, yeah. You could see the bottom. I could see the bottom. There's. Tell you what, it is loads around where we are or where we just see little streams that are crystal clear.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's no fish. They might be tiny like minnows or something. They'll be there. No, let me there.

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I'm sure there are tiny, but I'm talking about millimeter millimeters of water. Like. And it just doesn't go up or down. It just consistently runs. And so this in the village where we live, there's a road and then there's a row of houses, and then there's this gap that they have built around. And the stream just runs down this gap in the middle of the right.

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Well, on the side of the road, it's the same in Froom. There's a natural stream that runs down the middle of the pavement, and they've just created this gully and then built around the gully is just a just a strip. And you can see the water in the middle of the pavement going down to the running down into the town center.

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There must be a lot of that. Yeah, I like that. That's nice. Yeah, yeah. It's not like a thing of like, I like it when, nature is incorporated. Not like, diverted or shunned. Yeah. Redirected. Lay in the middle of the town, give it its own pavement. There. Go on. Yeah. Lovely stuff. It's nice. Do you know what we're talking today?

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Pubs? Yeah. Pop culture. Yeah. My, before we kick this off, I sent you a voice note. Oh, and I think I think the, the voice. No, it's it will light a fire under the pot. Now, the voice note is from a gentleman called Shaun Kray. He's a UK battle rapper. Find him on Instagram at Shaun underscore Kray.

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And that's Kray with a K. You see his first media viral video. I'm not going to spoil it for you. It's. He's in a battle rap jam tarts in a box. Mr. Kipling.

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Yeah. My I, I might say that I might genuinely say that 16 times a day. Fucking bars, mate. It's so good. It's so good. You're too thick to fit in a giant hearts in a box like Mr. Kipling. Yeah, man. Oh, shit. I'm playing this. I'm playing it. Sorry. My bad, my bad, I got, I got, I got so carried away by just thinking about the bars.

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I'll be doing something. All right, here we go again.

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I love pop culture. The pub to me is the little utopia where anything that's going on outside of that pub doesn't matter anymore. You put your phones away. It's all about those four walls. My people that feel it. I can sit at a table in a pub with anybody, man or woman. Whatever age you sit down and you just chat to that person.

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You know, if you sit next to that same person on the train or a bus, you don't say a word. They sit down at your table with the pub and you speak to her more than you speak to your missus. I want to say a pub with a dartboard, pool table, banter. It's, It's somewhere where time doesn't even matter anymore.

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It's all about who's brand is and how much you pot you got left. You tell you. Mrs.. You're going to be over at 10:00. That means 12:00. And you don't even feel bad because it wasn't a lie when you said it. It's just the way it goes. That's the pub. You're in there. Time flies. What? A landlord who walks around the pub shakes everyone's and remembers what?

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Their usual ways. I don't want a pub that's full of dinner tables and Sunday roasts and everything. You have pork scratchings and a packet of crisps and you have a good pint. Who's a good, lively head on it? Guinness. And I saw it eight. It's simple. The sticky carpets, music playing in the background. I don't like a band.

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I don't like the live music. I think that should be grouped at its own thing. I want to have crappy music playing in the background, just quiet enough. It doesn't interfere with your conversations. And I'm a happy chappy. Is 100% spot on. Yeah. Spot on. We've done the podcast on British culture before, and I don't know if we mentioned pubs we might have done, but that in a traditional British pub, English pub and I, you know, Irish pub in Scotland, wherever you are, I know I've got to say in Scotland I've been in the worst pub I've ever been in in my life.

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We can talk about that in a second. Honestly, hands down the worst place I've ever been anywhere. I can see it now in my mind's eye. No, the he's right. He's like this. Our cult, part of British culture lives in the pub. Yeah. It's one of the greatest places on earth. If you find a good one, it can also be one of the scariest places on Earth.

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Yes. I mean, I've had some awful experiences in pubs. Yes, I've seen pubs been turned over by 6 or 7 men having a brawl or being in pubs, where, windows have come through. So it, it's, it's, it's just, it's an amazing sort of what do you call it, environment, I guess, where everything and anything goes on.

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But at its best, it's there's nowhere else I'd rather be. What's your what's your idea of a great pub? Right, right. Okay. So with pubs you get many different things, right? And there is no right and there's no wrong. There's a lot of wrong. I think I've got some problems. Yes. So, like, where do you stand with, like, pop carpets?

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Some people are like, you know, when you're going to pop carpet and it's a bit sticky and it's like, you know, all it can tell you some stories is blood, bloodstains on there. The design is awful, the curtains are awful. But that's what a pub is. What it's like this weird, decadent type trying to be, a throwback to it being like, you know, a red velvet curtain or whatever, but actually it's horrible.

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It stinks of cigarette from the 70s. But there is a local, there's a pub called The Cavalier where we are, and it used to be called the Gay Cavalier. The Gay Cavalier is built. Gay Cavalier. Right. But they just changed it to the Cavalier because, you know, maybe they didn't want it. People to think it was like a gay pub.

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When I say the gay cavalier just means a happy cavalier, right? It's a happy. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't want to change it. They did change it. But anyway, that is your archetypal shit pub, right? It's, it's in the middle of a car park. It's flat roof or flat roof, and it's where local people drink. You go in there, there's net curtains, can't see, and they,

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Yeah. So. And the beer is okay. It's all right. It's not great. But you think, how does that survive if pubs are shutting down everywhere, how is the Cavalier surviving? Because it is the center of the community. It's where local people who live in that area, not just in Devizes. I'm talking about super hyper local. They meet in that pub and they share stories, and they be with one another in the pub and they know each other and they speak to each other.

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Everything that Sean was saying goes on in this pub, which, in any other normal circumstance, you wouldn't set foot in a dive. But but it has something as a magic, as a pool table where people are playing on it has tiny little booths where people sit in, it has a fire. It's with two old dogs nearly dead that walk around.

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That's a bad dream. Yeah. I've got these dogs are they're fucking decrepit. Stinky. But yeah. When. Yeah, yeah. Cool. When I was younger, I, my pub, my local. I suppose it would have been by local where I was living, where we grew up. And it's now. What's it called now? It's called the Kensington now. Yeah.

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It used to be called the grebe. My mates, one of the gunners mum used to work there. Yeah. So it was this pub was our first. You know, when you're on that kind of the precipice of teenager to, being legalized to drink. You go in a pub, but 1415 is still chancing it and they're like, May you 14 fuck off.

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And then you go and then you're 15. You've got a couple of facial hair sprouting. They know you're under age, but yeah, but you're like, I used to be like, you're ready. You're ready to be a man and have your first pint. And then you go there and you get served and you with all your schoolmates, you're hanging around there, you've got no money, you've got a bit money for beer, maybe a bowl of, chips or whatever.

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Yeah, but when we used to go there, like all the girls that we used to hang around with, they used to come along as well. The people in the year above used to drink there and then all the different collection of different people of the community. You got the guy who's a painter decorator. It comes in every single time, every single day at 5:00, absolutely caked in paint.

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And then you've got other people, builders and brickies, and then you've got the other people, and there's always someone in the pub, they're barred, but they're still allowed in, like, well, you've got dealers in there, you've got like loads of different people milling about. And I think someone, actually someone actually wrote in and this really kind of, typifies what I'm trying to say, being able to pop in and knowing that there'd be someone that you can sit and have a pint with wouldn't matter if it was one of the young lads or an 80 year old geezer.

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They'd always be someone that now. Yeah, gone. Well, I was just going to rant about going for about five minutes describing why I love my local pub. But is this the same? Yeah, yeah, go, go for it. Yeah. So I've just moved to a new village. I know in the local pub last time was called the Rose and Crown I think, or something like that.

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And it was, it wasn't very nice. I never used to go in there. I didn't feel like I wanted to go in there. Yeah, but it was again, it served the local community. The pub I've got now is probably one of my favorite pubs I've ever been in, and it's like literally 20s from my front door. Fuck off.

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What they say in a Cavalier though, is it? No, no no, I in Devizes, this is in where I live now, but I won't, I won't say where won't dogs. Yeah. No, because if I say the name of the pub, you literally have to find where I lived. That's a little bit. I might have said enough previously for people to work out anyway.

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But anyway, when I walked past here on Christmas Eve, this pub was rammed. Everybody in the village had walked, left their home and walked arm in arm. Couples, kids, dogs that walked to this pub. It's almost like the entire village had left their homes just to meet each other in this pub. The windows were steamed up. It was rammed.

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Rick. It was, it was. It was such a beautiful thing to see. And I, I really wanted to go in, but we're just moving into the house. It's Christmas Eve. Mum was coming over and stuff like that, so I just didn't get a chance to do it. But next year I'm going to go. You go in and it's a local family that run the pub.

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They've got a great day in there. Just strolls around the, roundabout with all the rain. Oh right. You, oh you sit, you waiting for your beer and he comes up and just gives you a little nudge in the side because he's like the size I over my hip. And you've got to throw him. Yeah. A pint of Guinness is sensational.

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So that was a great thing. Oh and you go in there and there's always someone in there. There's a group of men at the end, old men. And they're in there every day. And they give you a little nod as you come in. And I often just go in there and sit down with a pint on my own, you know, just look out.

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Now. The view is of rolling countryside out the back, like, oh, you look out and there's just this incredible view of the countryside. And I was like, this is the fucking best place on earth. And it's literally 220 20s from a front door quality pub, the the description of everyone and kind of walking arm and arm, Christmas.

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So it was love that dogs and oh, look how beautiful. Kind of like poetic on the Christmas Eve to do that as a community and still going to your local boozer and everyone knowing each other. And I could you can imagine that people be kind of in that jovial, joyous mood because it's Christmas Eve and man, like in, like where I live there.

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I mean, you've got you've got old boozers, you've got a couple of really fucking old boozers, because where I live is, in Wolverton, where I live, it's a, it's a really old town. Well, I don't know if you call it a town, but it's a really old place anyway, incorporated into Milton Keynes. So it's been here for fucking donkey's years.

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Not proper Victorian. So they are like, it has that history and that oldness to these pubs. You can tell when you're going and the décor and how they're decked out and all that. Not once called the Queen Vic. And the other is the Western, I think is, is a bit of fucking rough, roughest. But it's like those kind of they're almost like institutions, aren't I?

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And it's not as fairytale as what you were saying, but it's kind of like the cornerstone of this community. Everyone knows the Queen Vic. Not everyone. And everyone goes in there.

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But like when I was growing up and that pop that I mentioned, the Grebe Kensington, it wasn't quite a flat roof pop, but like in its design. But it's a new age, a state pub, get a new estate, got a put a pub on it, very modern and stuff like that. And although, like you have your locals and stuff that are there and any time that I mean even I wasn't like, I'm not a, you know, a, like a locals, right?

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I'm like getting this mixed up, a publican, is that someone that just goes to pubs, or is it someone that runs pubs and runs pub? So but when I go in there, I can, there'll be someone that I will know or like be mates of mates with. And that's the thing I love about like going into a pub.

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But even if I meet my mates in that pub, they're going to be grouped with people that when we were fucking younger and they are still in there. But yeah, it's just that whole community feel and vibe to it that you get no other place. I mean, like obviously if you go to a like the football, but like in your local community somewhere where you can just pop in and have a pint and just chat, shit keeps people alive like it's not you.

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It's like a lifeline for a lot of people, you know, especially old boys like you. Ever see the old boys at the bottom of the bar and he's drinking. He's reading the Racing Post. And what that cliche, that's what. What's like for the Americans who may not have been able to come to England. And if you do do some research and find some good pubs like don't like, there are good pubs and there are bad pubs, in my opinion, or there are pubs of exploiting the culture to some degree.

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Yeah, pubs that you can only standing. I have a massive issue, like they're just you, they're all standing room tables. Right. They come out to your chest or whatever. You. Yeah, you stand around because they want to put seats and chairs in because it's takes up floor space. Playing really loud, obnoxious music. Like Sean said a minute ago, the music's too loud.

00:30:27:24 – 00:30:47:09
You can't hear each other. They've done it wrong. If you live bands, he's right as well. 100%, unless it's a specific evening. But a guy. Wherever the band on tonight, that's fine. So you can choose not to go all or go and karaoke in a pub is fucking. It's fucking great bad karaoke. Yeah. I mean, it's like you say, if it's Friday night.

00:30:47:09 – 00:31:05:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want to do it? It's fine. It's a laugh. Right. It generally I jukebox I'm fine with like a jukebox. You can people can put on music they like. That's that's cool. I find that I think that's good. But you need a good pop is one that you kind of, you you you're able to sit down in.

00:31:05:04 – 00:31:11:07
It's cozy and. Well, I can't remember. I was talking about. Why did I start this?

00:31:11:09 – 00:31:39:00
I don't know if I got lost in the idea of what I thought knows me. I know that I'm sorry. I don't want to go back on to, one thing. About what? Sean said. Oh. You were talking about standing room in pubs. You don't. Not pubs that, have seats, pubs, gastro pubs, pubs where it's all about food like I don't, I understand, I was just about to say, like, am I in a pub or am I in a restaurant?

00:31:39:01 – 00:31:57:16
Like, I know this is going to be when I talk about pub and I will talking about Americans coming over, like looking, looking, looking out for a proper pub. That's what I was talking about. Find a pub that. And there there's lots of them in the city, down little corners. You'll find them proper little pubs, lovely, lovely boozers.

00:31:57:18 – 00:32:16:13
Yeah. Finding the correct one is, is is perfect. And the guy at the end of the bar, that's what I was talking about, right. That community and they're lifelines to people that have lost partners of feel lonely that the pub is there for them. They come in, they sit their out wherever it might be, and people talk to them.

00:32:16:15 – 00:32:43:20
And there's communication. Like there may be that this sort of idea that this is for people to just to get pierced or, you know, a way to escape from, from, from reality or whatever. But that and that is definitely it. But for a lot of people, it keeps them. It keeps them alive, like every, every pub will have a bloke or a local pub will have a bloke at the end of the bar reading the Racing Post and having a drink.

00:32:44:00 – 00:33:10:10
And he is. That communication keeps him alive and it's and it's important and it's. I've been really annoyed at the, generally pretty annoyed at Kate's thought Keir Starmer but and Rachel Reeves. But this taxing of pubs is in just so blindsided in my opinion. I get this some pubs, very wealthy people running pubs, they can afford, the tax rises and all that shit.

00:33:10:12 – 00:33:34:00
There are lots of pubs that can't that are crucial for local community and that they will potentially have to shut down if these tax rises aren't reversed in some way. I think they are to come out this morning that they are going to reverse them, but I don't know what that was. They're changing the business rates for pubs, so they end up having to pay over 100% more than they're paying now.

00:33:34:02 – 00:33:58:24
Oh fucking hell, they might not. You know I your how important this is for people. Local people. I don't know yet what you were saying. The the Racing Post guy or there was a million different types of old kind of character that's in a boozer. And yet there will be some that are maybe alcoholics or whatever.

00:33:59:01 – 00:34:26:19
They're there, but there are some in there that don't go there every single day or every single evening, whatever it might be. And they're not there to be getting pissed or because they're alcoholics, they'll have like 2 or 3 beers and it will be really long down. It's not like they're necking it on a Friday night, fucking ready to get ballocks to whatever it would be long kind of, rule out pint.

00:34:26:21 – 00:34:58:14
And they like you saying not that their partner may have, died or split up, or they might be lonely or whatever. And for those people sitting at the end of the bar and you walk in, you go, you are John. How's it going? It's like, yeah, yeah. Is it go in and there's just this tiny bit of dialog where you're picking out enough details and you see them regularly enough that keeps them going, that that little bit of social interaction, interaction, that otherwise, what would they be doing to be in their front room watching TV in silence?

00:34:58:16 – 00:35:23:14
And so that's why I feel so strongly about pubs and pop culture. Like I, I remember my, my mate celebrated his 18th birthday in, the, our kind of, pop the the grape. And it was, it is. I aim for 21st. I can't remember anyway, but we used to have celebrations there. Whether it was a, you know, wedding.

00:35:23:14 – 00:35:46:15
The baby's head. Do that down the boozer, someone's birthday, down the boozer. You know, all these different kind of, moments that you share. And it isn't just with your mates that you go to the pub with. It's everyone part of that community and everyone that you see regularly down there. And they would buy you a pint. Well, how about offering you've seen in a pub?

00:35:46:16 – 00:36:33:21
Oh, God. I wouldn't say it's been, particularly mental, but I do remember, police once arrest someone in a pub a. Oh, fuck me. Do you know what? That totally slipped my mind. That's. Yeah. Yeah, that is probably said that's one of two that I'll say. So, when I was again at this pub, the grape, I was in the beer garden, and it was during Football World Cup or something like that, and we'd noticed that, there was a, there was a police car that had pulled up next to the beer garden, and then another one pulled up, and then this kind of big riot van pulled up.

00:36:34:00 – 00:36:59:12
Like, that's a bit fucking weird. And it anyway just carried on about that. Then all of a sudden all the doors fly open. Some guy comes racing out with a German shepherd fucking going mental that on one side of the boozer, another one comes out down the other side of the boozer. Another police officer with a gun jumps up and he's on the kind of brick wall looking over the beer garden.

00:36:59:14 – 00:37:24:16
We're not fuck, man, I'm not what's going on? Not like what's happening. Then loads of plays stormed in and there's two lads that were sitting in the pub. One of them was on, I think he was on, tag and the other one had was supposed to turn up for something and never did. And they, you know, obviously splat to the floor, arms behind their back, loads of in.

00:37:24:16 – 00:37:37:06
And like when they came in it was like out of a film like everyone had on a table. Now, no sudden movements. Everyone shut up, shut up. Shout out.

00:37:37:08 – 00:37:56:01
Luckily my mate filmed it, underneath. And I've got the video somewhere. And I know you've been listening to this. Send me the video. Because if I can't find it, just send me the video. I'll post on Patreon for a post on discord. It is fucking wild. But yeah, I mean, that is. And the thing is.

00:37:56:01 – 00:38:21:23
Right? Because we're so used to seeing stuff in, you know, in England. But I'll be honest, like, I see a lot of wild stuff in America where people are getting shot by accident or, you know, things, incidences that are happening when these dudes ran in and they had guns. And I'm thinking if I like, I don't know, I dropped my lighter, I went to pick it up.

00:38:21:23 – 00:38:44:02
I could get pinged, you know, like all these mental things are running through my head, like just staying calm. Hand on the table, shit myself. It's my little fucking Stevie little pub now. I've been there since I was 14. I've no idea what's happening. That is one of the mental, if not the most mental thing. Number two, actually, I've got free numbers.

00:38:44:04 – 00:39:07:11
Two. This didn't happen at the pub, but I can remember. I know, been with you, actually, but, where landlords and what, you know, landlords, the landlords make a pop rating as well, whether they know your name, whether they're comfortable with you, whether they're not just cunts walking with you on a power trip, like, you should be, you know, that still should be at that table.

00:39:07:11 – 00:39:27:09
Might bring it back like, oh, that's. Oh, yeah. One thing, but yeah, but there's some landlords where, you know that people are in that and there are like, you know, people are doing gear in the toilet. So not just fucking do it on the table. Discreet about would be discreet about it, but bad luck in the wee wee.

00:39:27:14 – 00:39:56:19
There was a pub near us, in Devizes, where it gets to 11:00, and obviously the family with just a bunch of piss heads, and it was basically like an old antique shop brick. Everything was for sale in there. You could buy it. Yeah. And it was just stacked with loads of stuff. And then it just tables, and it, it comes to 11:00 and the blinds are just come down daubed lot and then everyone's to start tanning cigarettes inside.

00:39:56:21 – 00:40:13:21
Gear would come out and but this is yes, a nice pub you didn't get on the tables. It was just like we couldn't wait for 11:00 to come, like last order. So they shut the door. And that was a good part of the in terms of that. The, do you remember of Torrington in. Yeah. Shit pub. Right.

00:40:13:21 – 00:40:35:04
Shit pub. But we've been there all the time. And it's Main Goon. A pub is still there. Now, anybody who's lived in and around North London will not have toilet and arms on the corner of Toilet and Road, right near the Arsenal ground. Anyway, we live near there, so that would be our local. And he cut the doors off the toilets so that people wouldn't do.

00:40:35:04 – 00:41:04:07
Yeah. In, in, in the toilet. Like they can lose. If people are doing drugs on the premises, they can lose their license to be to be fair. Right. So he's serious. But he was so against it that the, the toilet doors were essentially about two foot tall. So you could have a piss. You couldn't really have a pub because people would look over the door just to show to the you probably had a warning or something from the brewery and the police.

00:41:04:09 – 00:41:28:07
So just show he'd done everything he could to stop people taking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What somebody saying you've seen in the pub? I mean, I'm not. I can't think of anything like it's crazy, but into, like, fighting and stuff like that. Like, I remember we were out together. I think it was one we did, like a fight and coughing and I think we were watching the boxing somewhere.

00:41:28:09 – 00:41:47:10
I was pretty mangled again, the two blokes behind us going to a massive ruck, he's got chucked out and then about five minutes later we just smashed through the doors and jumped on this case and it just like smashed them to pieces. We had it was the characters really. I used to got my brother's mates quite a lot.

00:41:47:12 – 00:42:02:02
And, you'll remember this because, one of them was just called One Punch. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Every time we get into a row, it would be settled with one punch. He'd just knock them out, basically. But,

00:42:02:04 – 00:42:07:21
Just having a nickname like that. One punch. Justin.

00:42:07:23 – 00:42:27:09
Kept knocking men out. You also used. So. Yeah. Also, what was also great about a pub, and I think there's a lot wrong with, our youth. Right. As we get to our age, we're always criticized. The generation below us. Right? It's the way it goes. Our parents criticized our generation. It was a lost generation. Language changed all that stuff.

00:42:27:09 – 00:42:50:11
Right? So it's natural, but I genuinely think the younger people would be better behaved if they spent more time in pubs, because the pubs we grew up in, we all grew up in. You learned how to behave, you learned what was acceptable and what wasn't acceptable. You learned the how much you can get away with and how much you need to be aware of.

00:42:50:13 – 00:43:13:14
You also learn about reading the room. Like what? Sensing trouble? Sensing when something going to be a problem. Yeah, yeah, you have your wits about you. You learn all that through osmosis in the pub. You absorb this knowledge without even knowing it. Like if you, if you. There was some pubs that we used to go into the Lord Palmerston in Holloway as well.

00:43:13:16 – 00:43:34:24
If you if you got cheeky to someone, you'd get a slap like some. You would be checked if you knew that, if you'd gone too far. The kids now, because it's too expensive, they don't want to go into pubs like my, my, my daughter Chloe. She said she's going to be 18 soon. She's been into a pub with her friends once.

00:43:35:01 – 00:44:07:23
Once in her life. Wow. It's it's, So do you think that is, that the dying of, Okay. Right. Forget the tax bit for a minute, but the dawn of the pub, the gradual dying of pub, which people are talking about now, is it down to the price of beer? And because, like, I remember going in and it's like free pound 25 or whatever for a pint and now.

00:44:08:00 – 00:44:35:10
Yeah. When those uni is a pound. Yeah. I remember going up to someone's uni Sheffield pound a pint. Yeah. Fucking mental. But like going into a pub now to get a pint. You're looking at £77. 657 easy eight. Don't even, don't even paranoid. But I know I did, you know, I went to, a boozer the other day.

00:44:35:12 – 00:44:55:17
I went out for my, like, Christmas drinks and a bowl around. So how many is it? 1 to 4 of us around. And it was like 23 or 24 pound. That's like fucking ass at right touch website. Well, cheap. It's is the, it was, like it was, the cock hotel in Estonia. I think it is.

00:44:55:19 – 00:45:20:13
They got that shit. Yeah. Very cheap. Yeah. It is a cheap I don't know. So it's a really nice kind of old world to do hotel as well I think. Pub. Hotel. I think Ricky the. It's definitely the price. Like my how who, what 18 year old kid can drop seven isn't working. You have to know 1877 18 year old kids are working now because they have to be in education or training.

00:45:20:17 – 00:45:42:16
Taylor 18. Yeah, as per the government. So they don't have money if they could be in an apprenticeship potentially, but you could spend your wages and then we spank their wages in the pub like I would. Yeah. Oh my money we got in a pub and other bits to me. So it's, it's been a long, long time tradition of losing all your money in the pub.

00:45:42:18 – 00:45:57:19
No, not a great one, I suppose, but, or like how I would think what I'm going to do is I'm going to win all my money in the pub. Well, the fruit I've got, I've got a 10 pound. I'm going to put on this for you. I can hear it ticking. That's one of the key signs.

00:45:57:19 – 00:46:35:06
You can, you can when I, when I put the pound in the. Can you hear it drop. Yeah you can drop it. You get outside 10 pound guys in you. You said you already dropped. Yeah. Yeah. It's Yes. Like it's, well, like the kind of, social aspect, like our kids now they grow up and they are watching, you know, they're communicating on Snapchat, TikTok, Insta, and like, all through games like, fucking the other day that I'm not even talking.

00:46:35:06 – 00:46:56:04
And I can hear so many different conversations. My daughter's on a voice, voice kind of, cool with all her mates. My other daughter is as well, and I'm bowling right. Mass and all fucking voice is going off. But that's how they that's how they communicate and that's how they are that night hang out, I guess. But they're all in their own home.

00:46:56:04 – 00:47:22:11
Communities exist online, doesn't it? For, for for a lot of kids, they don't knit. They get that connection with people through gaming and and sort of VoIP or all this conversation. Yeah, yeah. Whereas back there would be the time with all these conversations, deals were being done in pubs and conversations would be having friendships would be made. And it was like a physical thing where they don't feel the need to do it anymore.

00:47:22:13 – 00:47:42:06
So yeah, it's like and like, like you say, you have your mates, that you go to the pubs and stuff like that, but the oh my. So like in therapy sessions, pubs back in the day, like people you wouldn't really, turn and talk to, I don't know, you know your wife about something but you'd go down the pub and have a few and you chat to the geezer about, oh, my wife's.

00:47:42:08 – 00:48:07:13
And then, you know, you you kind of have that, that conversation. And with kids now I just, I just think they get it from elsewhere. Yeah. They, they, they have, a different way of doing. They're also not drinking typically. No. Exactly. Do you think like drinking culture has changed? Yeah. But when we used to go out, we used to just go out and get fucking like parallel.

00:48:07:15 – 00:48:28:01
It was, it was not the kind of the, the aim of the game was to go out and get the fuck out every Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I couldn't imagine my, my kids, I know they're only like 12 and 14, but it feels like there's been a mindset change. There's been, you know, the gym guys and all of that stuff and healthy mindset.

00:48:28:01 – 00:48:51:03
And I don't know, it just doesn't feel like, the pub has a place for the youngsters anymore. No, I don't think they, there is a place for them really. And they will they will die out or unless they find a way of attracting young people. It's not the well, I see. I don't know if they die out.

00:48:51:03 – 00:49:19:23
It's just maybe when, like, they, they meet around each other's houses and drink now rather than going to the pub. Yeah. And I think a lot of people are drinking at home rather than going to the pub. So yeah, maybe, maybe it will in time shift everything shifts. Yeah. And during Covid as well, there was a huge, kind of uptick in people converting their garages to pubs, like, you know, that, you know.

00:49:20:01 – 00:49:51:10
Oh yeah, I've got a bar, my garden now and blah blah blah, and people would rather go around their mate's house to these kind of makeshift pubs because they could get up to whatever they could listen to, whatever. But it's far more comfortable in that. But that social element is gone. That element of, the unpredictability of a pub of who's going to be in there, what's going to happen, you know, what news and what banner and all that, like, but yeah, I tell, I do, it makes me want to go to a pub now.

00:49:51:12 – 00:50:20:14
There's nothing more I would love. Right, for us to go to a pub like midday meal as well. So you've got the entire day in front of, you know, fighting cock social, you know, contest, like, no football, no work, no anything. Yeah. Just men drinking beer, all being pork scratchings. You can laugh at me playing pool.

00:50:20:16 – 00:50:50:05
At the game of darts. Get the tunes going on the old, jukebox. Just not do anything. We, we are really close with the house now, so we can make that reality. Oh. We'll have the pub, and then we can crash at my house, and, we'll do it. And we could even go for a walk if some frequents the.

00:50:50:07 – 00:51:12:00
No, I do. You'd like, naked? There is nothing I'd love more. And I've been doing this with, with the owners of, like, going for, like, a big 2 to 3 hour walk, stomping around farmer's field, really kind of working your body and then going back to a boozer, getting a bit off, getting a bit of food to refuel.

00:51:12:02 – 00:51:41:07
That that first pint. Yeah. Right. Guinness, whatever it is. And you, when you have a couple of sips, it's like proper gloves. 4 or 5 real big fucking. There is nothing better like when you get into a pub actually that first pint. Why is it that first pint is like, it's like you're drinking freedom. It's it's like, oh mate, it hit so different and then you're chasing that for the rest of the night.

00:51:41:09 – 00:51:58:17
I think it's because you know that you're away from whatever problems or issues or, you know, whatever you're going for, you just, you know, you're not sure what I'm saying. You drop everything at the front door in a pub. Yeah. You have a beer. You with you, mate. You have a good time. I like what you said about the fucking tell you.

00:51:58:21 – 00:52:14:05
This is going to be back at ten. You're back at midnight. But the thing is, you meant it when you said it is that it's all right. Well, I guess you got to the point when we used to go out, like, I wouldn't say a time, I say like I, you know, whatever time I say, I probably won't be back at that time.

00:52:14:07 – 00:52:37:02
Yeah. And my ex missus used to go meant with me. Lives should be. Ring me up at 4 a.m. in the morning. I'll be in someone's flat doing gear. All right. And the West one was, I went, we I went, we went out for a night out, and with one punch and it's me and him. And he'd been seeing this bird in Crouch End.

00:52:37:02 – 00:52:57:21
So that's why I went back with him, because I was living by. And we went into his flat and they went there and we just went to the counter, and we just poured all the drugs we had on all of us in a big pile. All right. All of that has got to be done before we leave. It was and the on there, there was, like loads of gear and stuff.

00:52:58:02 – 00:53:27:05
Nonetheless, I'm not celebrating. It's I would never do this now. I wouldn't have thought of that gives me shudders now. Right. But it was. Yeah. Yeah. And and they would put just in with justice because we Yeah, yeah. You never be alone again. So come on, come on, come on, come on. So come on do such a tune.

00:53:27:07 – 00:53:56:12
And we were dancing around to that and that and that was mangled. And as I'm going to shower, I had a lot of shower. And what, you ran some of the salads house that you just that I'm going to have a shower. Yeah. You know, like when you got ended up, everything feels like a good idea. And they had underfloor heating, so I'd had a shower and I was lying in a towel on their, in their bedroom on the floor of this underfloor heating.

00:53:56:14 – 00:54:17:16
Yeah. And, and then they turned up, the girls turned on and my Mrs. Roman, that's the point. My Mrs. rung me about. Oh. For she's a where are you? And I was, I'm still out. You coming? No. Not yet. No. Yeah. Yeah, probably not yet. Why? I'm having a good time. Yeah. Where's my missus now?

00:54:17:16 – 00:54:37:20
The irony of this is my missus wouldn't bat an eyelid. Now. She says she wouldn't even eat. She would. She'd call if she was worried for I was dead or something, obviously. But she just I would just. Do we want fun? Like you're an adult. Do you want light? Like it was the same with, like, eating food, like I got caught.

00:54:37:21 – 00:54:42:22
I didn't want to get caught eating food late at night for some reason.

00:54:42:24 – 00:54:55:06
I think it's like a weird hang up from a previous relationship. I don't want to get caught making the sandwich up at 12 at night for anybody.

00:54:55:08 – 00:55:19:00
Like why? Where does that come from? I think it's a creep around the kitchen. I think they went on. Got some bread. It's, so funny. Good. I could just imagine you not just creeping, rather opening the fridge at the suction of the fridge. You know, most people, but most people trying not to do, like, get caught doing gear, or watching porn or something.

00:55:19:00 – 00:55:36:17
I'm trying not get caught making a sandwich. And my missus, like you're in. This is your house. You're an adult if you want to have a sandwich. Offers 12 fucking sandwich. Up to you. She's the most chilled out person I've ever met, right? Well, I married a part of the reason why. Murder. She's so relaxed. You have a sandwich.

00:55:36:17 – 00:56:08:02
Go. Go on. Almost to relax now. I wouldn't I don't want to do that. I don't want to be at someone's flats 4 a.m. in the morning, and I. I just it gives me the fear, the thought of it. Nothing makes me more fucking, No, no, no, no, thank you. Right. What we're going to do, we are going to move on to, dilemmas and something only, you know, the topic for next week is making friends in your 30s and 40s.

00:56:08:04 – 00:56:33:22
With Covid and social media, people have never felt more disconnected. Like we're just seen in the pub chat, lonely or unable to meet new people. Putting yourself out there where and how to meet people me and flat met on on a forum. So there you go. And what it is where? Scared of them, scared of making trying to make new friends and getting over social anxiety.

00:56:33:24 – 00:57:09:22
So that is going to be the topic for next week. You can email or listen to lads anon pod at gmail.com. We've already had a couple of emails about this, making friends because there are people that, you know, ladies that are single that, have child and their life is consumed by bringing up their child, and then their mates have kind of got more distant and they are isolated and they don't really know what to do.

00:57:09:23 – 00:57:30:21
Yeah. Who to go out with stuff like that. And exactly the same with guys either Covid and stuff. Their mates have kind of gone in different directions. They moved out of the city, whatever, and people are kind of just stuck or have these relationships on social media, but they can't do that extra part and connect or not how to meet people.

00:57:30:21 – 00:57:53:12
So flap and I will be discussing that, and we'd like to hear some of your stories too. So send it into lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. We are going to be moving on to dilemma, so I'll just tell you. Got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad cause Cat will give you an icon in your soul, alone in your flat.

00:57:53:16 – 00:58:09:12
Please talk to Ricky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to be like you're safe here to get nice warm between Ricky and and.

00:58:09:14 – 00:58:12:06

00:58:12:08 – 00:58:37:19
Mind the gap. I'm turning 18 in January, and she'd be turning 17 in August. But after speaking to friends, they agree morally that it is okay for UK law. It is legal, but I'd like the lad's advice for more context. I'm not dating this person, but I need to know if I should cut things off before it becomes a relationship.

00:58:37:21 – 00:59:07:24
I put my if I put myself in the shoes of if I was a parent, would I be okay with my daughter dating somebody with this age gap? And I honestly don't know. I'd say it depends on the person after speaking to them. Okay, so this person is turning 18 in January and she's turning 17 in August. And there is the issue of so I guess she's 16.

00:59:08:01 – 00:59:29:02
Yeah, she's 16. Needs to be 18 for a little bit. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for a little bit less houses the balance. Well morally it's flat. Yeah. That's what I mean. That is what fun. Chill out. What if that's it. Yeah it's absolutely fine. There's a reason why the law makes it fine. Because this happens all the time.

00:59:29:04 – 00:59:57:22
Especially with girls when they're 16. Mentally, they are a further along than boys at 1,600%. When you're a younger girls always day older always. Yeah. And so yeah, I mean it's horrible that you're going to have to think about that risk. But mate, when when I was younger I remember my sister at 14, 15 around those ages. And some of the people she used to date.

00:59:57:24 – 01:00:23:11
Thinking back to it now, man, that's not that is fucking wrong. 14 you're fucking your child at 14. You're, you're I see, I I'm around close friends. They come to the house and I drop them off at school. These are children. There's nothing. There is nothing attractive about a 14 year old girl. Nine. Unless you're a pedo.

01:00:23:13 – 01:00:46:08
Unless you're unless you're unless you got some weird sexual orientation. There is absolutely nothing attractive about an 18 year old girl to me. I look, I think you look so young and it's weird. If you're 30 and you're dating an 18 year old. I don't care what you say. It's fucking weird. You're weird. Yeah. There's something your your tastes means you like young girls, basically.

01:00:46:08 – 01:01:12:18
And, you know, in a modern society, having a young girl as a daughter, you're fucking creepy. That's what I think. Yeah. When you. When you said that, I just wanted to go 1.8 65 GT, I got a job. It's like I get to go. I'm point eight turbo. Good. So bad.

01:01:12:20 – 01:01:41:00
Yeah, I, what's the. You is. No saying you chop. Yeah. So you'll find me. Is the fact that you're conscious of this is actually a nice thing? Yeah, exactly. And what I will say is, if you are, you're both young, and as you're saying, she's 16 as well. If this is a thing to just things that go, then I probably, you know, stay clear of that.

01:01:41:00 – 01:02:03:20
But if it's a relationship that you can see building and stuff, because this is more than likely going to be yours and her first love, whatever. So just be, you know, careful on what it is that you want to get out of this. But the ice thing, like, why is it like I always say, why is it weird that, like, we look at age like, I don't know, 16 and 18 now?

01:02:03:20 – 01:02:22:05
I guess maybe because they're not worldly, but like, if you were a 38 year old is dating a 40 year old with A2A2 year age gap, no one bats an eyelid. But when you're younger it is more of a problem. But yeah, I guess it's because they're not as miss choice but development. Yeah, development and stuff like that.

01:02:22:05 – 01:02:41:19
But yeah. No, I think if I may, I think if I one you know, I think age gap between me and my first girlfriend was exactly the same. She just I just turned 18. She just turned 17. No. Oh yeah. She was Amelia was 16 and I just turned 18. And she turned 17 in March. The following March.

01:02:41:21 – 01:03:09:01
Oh, Gary. What what what are you saying? It's not yet nuns. If you were 18 and she was 14. Yeah, maybe that's wrong. You actually got. You can go to prison for that, right? You okay? Statutory rape. Yeah. It means you'll have. Oh, God. Is is that is that what is classed under. Yeah, I think so. It's statutory rape is, even if the person is consenting consent.

01:03:09:01 – 01:03:30:12
Yeah. It's still rape because they don't they, they haven't they're not legally able to give consent. Right. Fuck. Yeah. So you can go to prison for it. And, but it's probably happening all the time. But if you much like imagine your daughter how yours now 14. Yeah. Right. And then 18 year old kid turned up. Oh my God.

01:03:30:13 – 01:03:50:23
You're like no no no no. I was like, I don't I'm not all of this sort of hating on men type thing, right? I don't do that. But I think it's overblown. I think it's damaging. I think it's reductive. All men are still more. I just think you're fucking moral if you feel that. Right. But I really wanted my daughter to be a lesbian.

01:03:51:00 – 01:03:56:24
Did you really? Oh, I just kept saying. You like, do you like girls?

01:03:57:01 – 01:04:30:07
Yeah. My boys. See, I was just leaving about page free around the house. No, nothing out and sexualizing, you know, just like, what do you think of those? Looks like chips, but no, no, I wasn't like that really was like, just saying, like, it was like encouraging the idea that basically women are generally kind of. I think you just less like, I don't know, I'd say you're less likely to get hurt or mistreated, but divorce rate in less lesbian, couples is the highest that of every every.

01:04:30:09 – 01:04:58:02
So you got a group and they. Yeah. Right. Listen to this. This is great. Right? Brought along a little bit. Sort of sexist, I guess, but still facts, right? Right. The divorce rate for a man and a woman. Is something like 50%. Okay. Right. The divorce rate between two women is something like 66%. Oh the divorce rate between two men is the lowest.

01:04:58:04 – 01:05:18:17
Is it really. What are we talking about. Is men a chill. Yeah. The minute you add a woman to it the likely it is. It's going to go tits up. I don't know, it's funny. Yeah, I guess it's just give me, give me, give me dinner. Give me a cock. Me that's a guy I wish. I mean, I don't wish because, I mean a wonderful, lovely relationship.

01:05:18:17 – 01:05:43:17
And I'm very lucky, right? Yeah, but being gay is simple in it. Yeah. Like if you are gay. If you like dick. Yeah, yeah. It's like, what? To watch football tonight. Costa. Yeah, yeah. So do you want to. I know we should do. We should buy motorcycles. Yeah. So we got a holiday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where do you want to go?

01:05:43:19 – 01:06:02:15
I want to go to bed. Well, you're out of the loop. Which one do I want to build? Yeah, we watch football, but the football will be on board football all day. And then the fact is, well, you just ashes. The ashes. Yes, yes. Oh, towards the ashes. Brilliant. And at the end of the night, to suck each other off.

01:06:02:20 – 01:06:11:24
Brilliant. Yeah. It's like, what's not to like. Oh good. It, that's the tricky bit.

01:06:12:01 – 01:06:37:04
It's you keep it. Oh the rest don't. What you mean to think we can pull our incomes. You get a job, I get a job. Well, we just we can spend time alone. Since I made perfect. Brilliant, brilliant. Right. We're going to jump to something 90, you know, right now. Shit. Are we? There we go. Wow.

01:06:37:06 – 01:06:42:15
Something, you know.

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01:06:45:18 – 01:07:13:18
I pile up in my pants, my, something I need, you know, goes back to when I was in year nine of secondary school. I'd pee on a cold Tuesday morning and felt my teeth stirring around in my stomach. Oh, T, that's got to be normal, isn't it? T staring around in my stomach from the night before. When I got to the sports hall, all the lads were sent to play football, and because I needed a shit, I asked the teacher if I could go to the toilet.

01:07:13:20 – 01:07:39:01
He said I could go once you play one more time. So I ran around for a bit, but the feeling in my stomach uncontrollably started to move downwards. When I'd reached the toilet. My school crush since the start school was was waiting in front of me in line to use the disabled toilet, since that was the only toilet in that department.

01:07:39:03 – 01:08:06:03
Whilst I was waiting next to her, she tried to start some flirty convo, but I was too distracted by the mess that was about to appear in my pants. And that was when it happened. I set that shit pile up in my pants right next to the girl as she was talking to me, but luckily two seconds after it did, she entered the bathroom, scared, scarred by the fact that she might find out by the smell.

01:08:06:03 – 01:08:35:22
When she walked out of the bathroom, I ran straight to the opposite side of the school and used the normal toilets to clean myself up, just to the point I was in good enough condition to ask to go home by faking an illness. This girl has now been my girlfriend for five years and we are thinking about starting a family together, and that is something I know a class I want to know if, like I know you're saying something only I know the she know she has to know.

01:08:35:24 – 01:09:02:09
Tell her. Does she know? Tell her I want you to do it. I want to redact it. Can you? If you haven't told her, can you video it of you telling her and then send it to us? Right. We, We we did this thing on Japan. Yeah. Podcast with James. And it was like we asked the question, why can't men just ask for a blowjob?

01:09:02:13 – 01:09:28:07
Any random part of day? It's not acceptable, right? You just can't go. Can I have a blowjob? That's a weird night. Night, I know that. Imagine, imagine, like 3:00 in the afternoon. You go up to the wife and you say, can I. Can I have a blowjob, please? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not acceptable. You never would know. I know, I mean, like, I do enough innuendo throughout the day, but not like, as a sincere.

01:09:28:10 – 01:09:42:05
Yeah, I'm just a bit horny. Can you just. Yeah. Sucking the radiator. Yeah. Exactly that. Right. It's just not etiquette. It's not cricket in England. You just don't do it at night. We challenge our audience to do it.

01:09:42:07 – 01:10:06:21
And video it and send the audience into. And, yeah, yeah, we had about 3 or 4, 3 or 4 people can, can I have in the video and hear a little about it? Can I have a blowjob? And that get me is often when what. No, it's all right. Just for an ask. And the final one said, can I have a blowjob?

01:10:07:01 – 01:10:31:24
She went, yeah, and that's where we ended it. Right. Yeah. He won. He found one. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be yeah. Our latest one challenge for our audience was, Okay. How fast could you eat 12 Cumberland sausages? And they go. And there was a bloke called John who did it in three minutes and two two seconds.

01:10:31:24 – 01:10:43:20
12. Oh, my God, it was. Oh, actually I did I did see quite a few. Keep it Cumberland. Yeah. Keep a couple of.

01:10:43:22 – 01:11:05:04
It's fucking brilliant, man. But yeah. Phil, me Sam's asking people asking you. Mrs.. That be great. But, I don't know if anyone's got the bottle to do that. Right. That'll do for this week on the pot. I hope you enjoyed, pop culture chat. The topic for next week is basically making friends in your 30s and 40s.

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