#134 | 9:11 And The Terrorist Attacks

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Okay. So some of this we've moved into this new house right here and kind of it's been stressful and all that stuff. But one of the stresses, what I thought was great opportunity for us would be all of the clutter from the old house, right? I would order a skip and we would put it in that skip and that problem would go away forever.

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In fact, we never have to think about it. We feel the spot. Yeah. Get it? We built the skip up. And then I look in the garage now and it's still full of stuff. Well, nothing has been checked. There is a tent, a Jacob's cracker tub of a tin, like a big square tin full of random nails and brackets.

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But why would we have if I need a thousand brackets for a specific job? I will buy ten nails, two brackets. Use them then. They're nowhere. They're just in there where they're supposed to be on the inside the door, not just in the tin forever. Like, hey, this is a problem. This is a problem, Ricky. That's eventually someone else has to sort out.

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And I just. I'm sick to death of it. When you buy these, you need screws, right? You get ten in the pack. You only need four. What do you do with the rest? Six in the bin, in the trailer, in the bin. Then the problem solved. Gone. Right. I've got, like, maybe ten empty coffee jars, all with different size screws, nails, nuts.

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Well, the thing is as well. I don't know, like, I'm I'm kind of coming around to your way of thinking because I've taken those old screws and nuts and bolts and stuff. Yeah. From items that have gone kaput, that, dead. And I'm just thinking I'll take these screws just in case. I see they're all rusty, moldy, fucking horrible.

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Just chuck my. Yeah, I could, but just in case. I've got, like, bits of offcuts of wood and, laminate flooring up in my loft, if you know, I know that. Just in case it might come in. Know. I'll tell you what. I'll give you something on the laminate flooring. I'll give you that. Right. Because, yeah, it's specific to what you've got.

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You might not find that it might get discontinued. Whatever. I'm fine with that. Screws, nails. You can buy. Bench you exists. You can get them as and when you want them. Right. Bits of wood you could have put. You can go to, to, to Which one of a wood Smith. How are they? People that sell wood?

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Carpenters and joiners. Yeah. Shops and buy now. Cut it for you. Exactly the right size. Not just an offshoot. I don't know. You know, my dad did. Or so, my dad built decking. You should see. I'm going to send you a picture of what you did. Like he said. Fucking insane lumber. That is so good about decking and a pond.

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And it looks like professionals done it. And he's just got bits of wood that he's kept from the offshoots of that. And I'm like, what are they for you guys? Well, I don't know. And I have a project. I suppose this is what this is. I mean this is what room. And they really they, they, they have lots of DIY stuff and they keep random bits, like, we've just got a new washing machine.

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And when it came, you know, that, little gray pipe like it. It's an outlet pipe. And every washing machine comes with them or. No. Sorry. It's an inlet pipe for the cold rule. Every washing machine comes with them. I've already got one, so I didn't need to use that new one. And I put it in the loft.

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Where? Where I keep a lot of my other things. I've got five of them. What am I ever going to need? Five of those fucking things. But I keep it there just in case. And it might not be for a new washing machine, but it might be for another project. Rusting. Do you know what? If I had a pipe, a stiff bit of pipe?

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Oh, not that's there for a third party, but, I could use it. And. Yeah, the amount of stuff in my life, like, at the moment. Patrons, you will notice that I'm recording in a different area of my household. I'm in the kitchen. It just it doesn't. And it just looks like you point you in a different direction.

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There's all. It looks out. Okay. That's good, that's good. No one's going to be upset by this. No. That's fine. Because my daughter has taken my office. They've got their own bedrooms now, but eventually I'm going to go into the loft. And when I go into my loft, I have. This is the only time in my life where I haven't done any forward planning.

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And I undo the loft hatch when something needs to go in there, and I close my eyes and just hurl it into the darkness, and the darkness deal with it. And it comes to a point now that I'm eventually going to be moving into the loft space to record the pods and have my own little space up there, but the amount of fucking shit up there, I honestly, it is insane what I've done.

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I could get two skip worth of shit from out of there. I, I, I, I can't stand people I like, I can I'm like, you know what? I only know what I own. I'll tell you what I own, all right? I own the clothes on my back and the clothes. I dare you to say that. Right? I own my recording equipment.

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Yeah, and I own the bricks and mortar of my house. I don't own a single object. I don't own it would if I was to move. And I was on my own. On my own. You'd take me off our probably half hour to move from one house to another. You know, when you see, like when a bloke moves on the on his own into a flat, but a year later it's just a mattress, a chair, a PlayStation and a TV.

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Yeah, with a beer fridge next to the. That's me. That's to me. Yeah. I don't need anything. I don't place value in items. I've got some artwork. I guess I've got that as well. Right. But my Mrs. is so the opposite. Yeah, I've just got stuff and she's getting. There's more stuff. Come in. It's collecting stuff now. What is it like when I, when I, when I help my old man move into his house.

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Well, he, he moved into his house and he is. Well, he's got lots of stuff. Storage under the stairs in the second bedroom. I needed to move it into the loft, and I said I'd go around and help him do that. A 73. It needs. It needs a strong man to get up, up and down the ladder.

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So I help him out. And when I went round there and I, you know, there was about 15 really heavy boxes and I was like, what the fuck's in these boxes? Dad, what is it? And they were, limited edition plates with, like, Chinese artwork and they, you know, like three of 15 from some, that it's gonna literally be worthless.

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And there's like these, you know, they've been in coins. I've told you. Yeah. The play and and they, they, they used minted coins. And those plates were found in the supplement of Sunday magazine. Sunday newspaper. Yeah. I don't know if our American brethren will will know about this, but in England. I know you guys have newspapers, but I don't know if you have.

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There's a tradition in England, right, of when you. It's not tradition. It's just the way the news works. You have your weekday papers, in the Sally paper. And then the Sunday paper was different. It was bulkier. It was more of a an event. Right. And then you had a supplement inside it, the Sunday supplement, which is you might have seen the TV show, The football, The Vertical, somebody supplement.

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It was the supplement. It was a magazine, the glossy magazine that went inside a large, bulky newspaper, which is a double sided double of the size of your weekday newspapers. And I used to love I would absolutely love sitting down my men's house, cup of tea, slice of cake, and I'd sit on the floor and I'd read through the sport.

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She would have news of the world, which essentially sun on a Sunday. But oh yeah, she would read news of the world, a tiny mouse, she's a little gammon. And, and so you'd sit down and then, and then you'd flick to the back of the pages, and there would be these limited edition plates by these. These are investments for the beach.

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And even at ten, I was like, I'm not sure these are. Yeah. So but but yeah, but that's that it's well what you said about the Sunday, papers and that being like being fucking bulking or the supplements I wrote a paper around from when I was like 13 up until, I don't know, 16 or whatever. And every morning at about half five, six and 6:00, the delivery van would drive past my house and I'd hear a thud of the newspapers landed on my doorstep, and I would pick it up, arrange it into how I'm going to, ride around to the different streets in what order and deliver them.

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And on the Sunday you would hear two thuds. And it's just fuck me. The telegraph of the times, the amount that it fucking is. Like I'd a bloody phonebook. Yeah. In each newspaper I was like, did you write of it? Yeah. Trying to write of it. Oh, my fucking back. I did it in two trips as well. So this is your paper?

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Yeah. Yeah. We you get double, you pay double on Sunday doing your paper. And I want said look me that me either he didn't know not double was you just on the Sunday night throughout the week, mate. Yeah. So I, I just had one day. Yeah. Yeah, it was a Thursday because it was the late.

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It was the local newspaper, the local newspaper, the Telegraph, or the Crouch End flier or whatever it was called. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Harrogate Gazette, whatever it was. Right. But what you wanted is supplements because the supplements would boost your pay packet because, Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was one I remember it, I had a like a, like a, a bonus bonanza because they wanted to put along with every paper.

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You had to put samples of PPG pyramid tips, tea bags, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had to I had a box carrying a box along and in newspapers along, and they paid me like a got a free credit for that week, made you get coins in a little paper bag. So you get paid.

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Yeah, yeah. Little envelope. My name on it. 14 pound, 51 pound. 50 for the week. Me. That was fucking back in the day when I was nine. All right. 14. 14.50 pound. That's enough to go to the off license get. Yeah. 4040 vodka or 50. What was it, 40 for a book of. Yeah. Oh, no, I didn't get all that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me I wasn't on it then the I my, my nan used to take all my notebook. Oh by that I'd teach myself all of the file by the.

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My nan used to take all my money. Well, let's keep it for me and dish out and small things. So what's going on? I had to steal my own wages from my nan. Wow. So that's kind of a good thing. And a bad thing I didn't. Yeah. No, I mean, I guess I earned is my fucking money.

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What are you doing? Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, she takes, you know, she wanted me to just spend it sensibly, so, I used to nick it. Anyway, tell me about you. Said your dad's place is cloud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, in the loft. So I was, I was helping him out, and I know that, and then, I stumbled across something I of that was quite familiar to me, and it struck me my childhood.

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Now, when I was younger, my old man, he had a he had a house, but he used to rent out his other room, so he had lodgers. So when I go around his house on the weekend, I would always be kind of stay in his bedroom. Right. And he would go out and rent videos for us, down, up blockbusters, always.

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Jean-Claude Van Damme films, what he wanted to watch. And then he would run his errands. I was just in his room watching Jean-Claude Van Damme films, eating McDonald's, whatever. And that one day, I don't know, something just dropped and it went to the floor and I saw this, briefcase. And I was like, oh, fuck. I'll have a little look at that like that.

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And I know I'll have a will have a look, and, pinged it open and I found, you know, shit letters of mortgages and all that, like, just important stuff, you know, paperwork, admin. I found page three, and it was all. Fuck. What was your name for? Fox. Samantha. Fox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll tell you.

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No, no, no, no. But she was like the one that she says she she was. Yeah. That, Yeah. Yeah. So Samantha Fox, she was there staring back at me. I said, oh, hello. And then, a pristine copy of the Kamasutra, and, I think. No, it wasn't. When I was flicking through it, I was like, fucking know.

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This is a bit racy. Yeah, but when I was making my dad's boxes, you know, I guess what I bumped into. Hey, what's that fucking Kamasutra again? I said, oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, no, I think it was the same one. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was just. Yeah, it's just kept it. Still doing the moves. A friend of mine, a friend of mine had a friend of ours actually has, had a Fleshlight for a bit.

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Oh, he's recently in disgust of himself. Chucked it away, but not yet gone. Well, I was trying to convince him for a long time not to keep it as a souvenir special. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, he started using again, so he just disgusting. So you wanted it out when you're away from.

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Temptation, but, like, how would like it would be, how would you dispose of it? Like, you can't do it from your hand. Kanye wraps up bean bag, bean bag, bean bag. Stereotypes. So I would say like it was a body. A small body. Right? And then you've got a but you can't put it in your own bin because it's still traceable back to you.

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Yeah. So who's chasing, who's going to go? Who's gone finding I rather trace back who actually put this in the bin. Yeah I know, but you know what cats are like cats. Yeah. Cats. Scratch friend. A squirrel might have got out of it, and everyone's fucking got a like that geezer. Number 22. Oh, yeah, I knew him. I said I see, I see his face.

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He always looked a bit weird today. He, I don't know why, but he's the gentleman we're talking about. He sent me a picture of it before it when the bin said, say goodbye, like I been using it. And I was like, don't do this. That's, that's a fake is they pick.

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Hello and welcome. Tonight's anonymous is episode 134. I'm Ricky Heath from two Best Mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature. Something only you know and everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going? Fav. Yeah, it's gonna write me. Yeah. Everything's going well. It's good. I'm glad to hear it.

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I am actually wanted to do a quick shout out bit of, housekeeping to the, the lads in the discord. This week has been popping off. Now I have two people who have, come clean and they've got Prince Albert's twice. Yeah. That's right. Almost as though I've seen people. I wanted pictures, but I only got pictures of the, the, the apparatus of what is being going in said penis.

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You know, like when you see a mechanic and they've got a tray. Yeah. When they're, you know, taking their part of the, you know, the head gasket or whatever, there's nuts and bolts everywhere. I've got a photo of that and some of the, the pieces that go in there, it's it's big style. I don't think I, I, I'm not interested about this.

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Right. Show me, show me in or don't show me anything. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I agree, we I would most definitely want to see how I've got Prince Albert, but you're not going to see it. What's the point? What are you doing here? Yeah. Cocktails. Don't mention it. Literally. Yeah. Yeah, I made it mine. Was I because I'm doing something this way of speaking is really interesting.

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Special person. What do you say? I can't tell you. I don't know what. Tell me. You speak, I bring out, but it also it pulled the other people out of the, teased them out of the woods where? Nipple piercing. One of the lads, one of the other lads had a belly piercing, which I was. Okay. Yeah, I can ask, are they okay?

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They in the scene? They they okay. Is he a gay gentleman? I don't think so. No, not at all. When they put in underbelly piers. And you would assume, I mean in the UK and I know it's different everywhere in the UK. Yeah. You would assume someone with a nipple and a belly pierce belly button was homosexual. That's all the way.

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But I don't know. I know those men. Men with, nose piercings. I've always been a bit like, I get it, but I've always thought it's a bit, you know. Yeah, it was more in the scene in them. Yeah, yeah. So thanks to those and, I don't know if this the, I don't think it was the original doctor who used to email us, but there is a new, doctor.

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Yeah. In the discord as well. He's a training, in neuroscience. So I've been asking him lots of brain questions about why can I not go to sleep at night? And he told me a big complex, so I'm not going to read it out, but, Nice one. Discords. Let's keep them. Keep the chat going. Is he is it nothing to do with you staying up?

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And, Hey, genomes were mentioned, and it's like I might have one. That is because obviously everyone's born differently, and it's something to do with. Maybe I'm just a bit of a night owl. No, that's how I'm prior to bed. Close your eyes with me. It's willpower goes back close. Right. So what do you say if you lay there for an hour?

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Yeah. You close your eyes. You. After an hour from 9 to 10, you wouldn't be asleep. Oh, no, I absolutely would be asleep. So it's a choice then?

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Yeah, you might have those genomes, but if you close your eyes, if you go to bed and close your eyes, you would fall asleep eventually. Yeah, I, I think it's a bit more complex than that. I don't care what his doctor says. I go to bed. Close your eyes. You fall asleep. Well, we're going to move on.

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So you know what we're talking about today. Oh 911 I was thinking about this. Yeah, it's weird that people sort of. It's now a joke, isn't it? For some reason. Yeah, I but I do want to kind of caveat this whole pod. With that, you may hear an excitable voice or tone from me, and it's not excitable as in, I'm having a laugh.

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It's I, I'm still to this day, still it still blows my mind of what happens, how it happens at everything around it. Now, before I kick off an email in and it's just heard your recent pod and glad that you're doing my suggestion of 911. So that was someone's suggestion, the 911 topic. So we're doing it for a although I was just nine years old, I have a photographic memory of it happening.

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I remember being at home, I'm not sure whether I was off school ill or is the weekend I can't remember now. I just want to say I've got your email there, and you said you've got a photographic memory, and then you're saying you can't remember whether you wrote it or it's a weekend. What is it? You're I'm already picking holes in your story here.

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So. Yeah. So, you know, be careful what you email in. Just remember, say, my mum watching the knees of her hands across her mouth saying, oh my God, oh my God. Another one hit watching a plane go into the second tower, not really understanding what was going on, but knowing it was something bad. Then watching the telly I saw my mum say even louder, oh my God, it's collapsing.

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Those poor people. Oh my God! Seeing for myself the tower collapsed before my eyes. It was surreal. Something hopefully I no doubt ever to see again in my lifetime at such a young age and over 20 years later, never forgetting it, even though I never really understood what was happening. And then they've put at the end shout out to Jenny and Jordan.

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I did say this is Anonymous podcast, but they were insistent. So Jenny, thanks for emailing in. Thanks for suggesting the topic. Yeah, there you go. Read it out. Who's calling? Who's Jenny and who are they? I don't know, listeners. Listeners. And by the way, this is that was Jenny's account. I want to hear Jordan's. You stole Jordan's fun there.

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I think that was the time where everything went, started going tits up. Really? Okay. Like I think you lived in. I've said this before, but relative security and uncomfortableness and and you felt kind of safe and comfortable. And I guess that's the point of a terrorist attack, isn't? It's to make you feel uncomfortable, but you feel scared.

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Own home. Yeah, but it'll just like, from that point forward, it all just slowly went tits up. And we're now in a world where everyone just seems to hate each other. And I feel like that felt like the start of it. So. So this is September 11th, 2001. And for people that you know, everyone knows what this is.

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But on September 11th, 2001, 19 Al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial airplanes crashing into New York's World Trade Center, wanting to the Pentagon and one into a Pennsylvania field, killing nearly 3000 people in a coordinated attack that reshaped global security. Always won me upright. I mean, I don't mean to go on the attack, like saying about 911, which confuses me.

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Not like I always think it happened in 2011, say 911. Yeah. What happened to timber in 2008? Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? They just. They say the dates are weird, don't they? Where were you when it happened? I was in you remember? Yeah, it was in my my girlfriend's at the time. It had that front room where you were covering and have a cup of tea with him.

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And I think neighbors was on, and, it just neighbors. I think there was a BBC one program. I think they just switched to the news immediately, like no warning. It just switched without a full. Yeah. And then obviously it was a, the, the infamous image of both of the towers standing there. And then the, the plane hit the first one, and then you're watching it live as the plane hits the second one.

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And, it was just surreal. It was the most surreal. Remains the most surreal thing I've ever seen in my life. It's. Yeah. It's insane. That that happened, and we watched it happen. The world watched it happen live. It it was a bizarre, bizarre time. Very strange, I think. Yeah. It's one of those times where I didn't think I'll ever see that again in my lifetime or.

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Or have anything as impactful affect me the way that it did at that time. I was at my very first job when I was working in a warehouse, and I say in my first job at the vast majority of the warehouse. Then on top of it, there was little like back room offices where the people with shirt and ties and, you know, doing all the business stuff, and us minions were down in the warehouse out.

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I was more than likely, probably sat on my forklift or something like that. And I got a call to go to the boardroom, and I was like, fuck, what was going on? And everyone was like, Rick, come to the boardroom. So I went into the boardroom and they had a TV there, and it's very rare that office boards the shutters mixed with the, the warehouse.

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Yeah. Scum. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much. And we were all there together just watching the TV and watching that and, well, at the World Trade Center, that one plane had hit one of the Twin Towers and everything that was going off. And then we were all there together when the second plane hit, and I obviously it was fucking shocking what was happening, but it was the.

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The confusion of I, I didn't know what was happening. It was an accident. Yeah. They didn't know where they were flying. The. Yeah. The, the signal coming down or the radar whatever. And then the second one hits and you're like, man, that car that's that can't be a coincidence. Two of them in the fucking Twin Towers. And then you like what is happening?

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I'd never heard, like, genuinely. And this is going to sound a bit. I'd never heard of the word terrorist terrorism. I think maybe it would have been like the I had there was, there was one time. Right. Timothy McVeigh and I believe he tried to bomb a, a World Trade Center. Timothy didn't Timothy McVeigh. Wasn't he the Unabomber?

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So I might be I might be wrong. Desmia. So. But he he killed a lot of people in America. We have a lot of, we have a book. I seem to remember he, like, rigged up a van that was under a, you know, under it was in a parking lot under the building. And then the bomb blew up.

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Right. And he still, And he he was labeled as a terrorist, the best as a first time domestic terrorist. That's it. Thank you. That's the first. It's just so quickly. He's. He masterminded the, perpetrated the Oklahoma City bombing. That's it. And the bombing itself killed 167 or 168 people and injured 684 and destroyed one third of the Alfred p moral federal Building.

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Fuck the I don't yeah, it's a big one. So that so that was the first time I'd ever heard of someone doing it, but that was like domestic. That wasn't you had yet to do you don't remember the IRA bombings in London? I do, but it I can't not really. I know the name IRA. I know that there was bomb, but it's all like our lot in it, you know.

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They know it's not like we're under attack abroad. Yeah. It's not a terrorist from abroad. And I didn't really think that stuff existed. Not that it didn't exist, but I'd never seen anything or heard of anything where it happened in the Western world, where it affected me. And although the Twin Towers didn't affect me directly, you know, everyone in the world could see what was happening.

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Yeah. So it was fucking mental. Like what? Watching that. What were your feelings towards it? Were you kind of like, it's shocking. It's America don't really care. Well, I know I don't have any feelings other than just a complete shock and unlike fascination, I guess not. Not in a weird way to. I was enjoying it, but I couldn't stop watching.

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I sat down and watched the coverage of that from the minute it started, and it felt like I was sitting there for 24 hours watching it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't know what's happening. And then you start getting fed. Information and stories develop and then you watch. You've watched what, like inconceivable. If you put that in a Hollywood movie, you wouldn't believe it could ever happen.

00:28:51:04 – 00:29:24:06
And it was happening. So, you know, that's what it was really. It was just complete disbelief. And I guess fear and then but and if you think about what happens when you're scared, what do you need? More and more information. And so that's why the news will lead with such sort of aggressively depressing stuff on the sun and, and the particular broadsheet newspapers and that have built an industry out of sharing the most bloodiest and violent stories.

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Because as a human being, you need when you're scared as much information as possible. And so that's why everybody on earth was glued to the TV. That so that's that's what I felt just kind of like weird now body moment really. It was kind of like, I mean, I, I'm probably way off on this, but it was the first kind of realization for me, like 24 hour rolling night.

00:29:49:14 – 00:30:09:13
I don't think I'd ever seen that, really. It wasn't. I think it was on Sky, but it was kind of just down the channel list. So you don't. Yeah. It wasn't normal that you put on a rolling 24 hour. No, no. Exactly. And this, like you were saying, it was on like for fuckin four days straight. Yeah.

00:30:09:15 – 00:30:37:11
And the more things were coming out about it, the more you were like, I don't know, I just found it so fascinating because that whole part of it and terrorism was just alien to me. And I hadn't really I don't know, I just didn't didn't know. You felt like you could be got at. Yeah. For the first time, you always just assumed we were safe on our island and America was safe because it was.

00:30:37:13 – 00:31:04:00
No one would dare attack it. And and by proxy, us. Because when you feel certainly at that time there was a deep connection between the UK and the US, and I think that's the least to some degree. But it's, it's strained by the sort of Trump appointment, I think twice the democratically elected Trump twice. Yeah. It's strange to some degree, but it's I think it's still there.

00:31:04:02 – 00:31:18:23
And so when it happens to the States, you're like, what if it can happen to them? It can happen to us. And we know shortly after that we got our own, not I mean, a few years later, wasn't it. When was that 2005 of that we had our own. Yeah. We had the London bombings. Do we? Yeah.

00:31:18:23 – 00:31:34:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did a podcast, actually, with a guy called Mustafa. He was on one of the trains. He was a friend of mine, and he was on one of the trains that was bombed in London. So you can find that, on, no holds barred podcast. Sort of. It's on the internet somewhere.

00:31:34:17 – 00:32:01:13
Anyway, so, you know, we could we got out and and and then, you know what? What happened is it kind of increased in, in fear and think, well, what can happen? I was on the amount of times I got on a bus and thought about blowing up after the London bombings. May every two years after. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't sit on the, bomb because I assume that the problem would be on the bottom.

00:32:01:13 – 00:32:28:14
I'd be better at the back of the bus on the top. And that's what the that's what terrorist acts designed to do is to disrupt your everyday life and make you think and and feel, uneasy because they can't go to war with America. They can't fight them. They'll be destroyed. So what can they do is they impact the hearts and minds of people at home so that, you know, I would have gone to the bottom of the bus, like.

00:32:28:17 – 00:32:44:22
And my logical if I, if I'm at the top and then there's a fire on the stairs, how am I getting out? I think it just because I remember the I, maybe I was in the bomb. Maybe it was. I sat on the bottom. I can't remember exactly what I did, but I do remember being conscious of where I was sitting on the bus every time.

00:32:45:00 – 00:33:08:13
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and trains as well. Planes, all of that stuff. Fucking mad. Well, yeah. You had Richard Reid. You remember him? He went on, he got on a plane with, liquid explosives in his shoes. No. Oh, watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you know his name? I think he was. I remember his face as well, and it sort of burned into my memory.

00:33:08:15 – 00:33:14:16
He was just like, Richard Reid.

00:33:14:18 – 00:33:41:07
That's fucking weird how you just remember. Well, he just had a very, He had a particular. The shoe bomber. Yeah. So Richard Colvin Reid, also known as the shoe Bomber, is a British terrorist who perpetrated, the failed shoe bombings against transatlantic flights in 2001. Born a career criminal father to a career criminal father, Reid ended up in prison after killing years of committed petty crime.

00:33:41:10 – 00:34:07:00
I think he was less, sort of a planned terrorist and more and more. Yeah, yeah, an opportunistic one. But he's the reason why you couldn't. You can't take liquid liquid on planes. Fucking nice on my 100 mil up to the up 200 mil, two liters. Now. Two liters. Is it. And he Heathrow fucking, cabman. The second planes here.

00:34:07:02 – 00:34:41:08
And you can't have you know that this is. And the reports are coming through that it is terrorism or whatever. Yeah. And then you see the fire blazing, you see the panic down below, you see people just viewing it from afar. The news is roll in and then rubble starts falling, and then it starts to collapse. The first tower.

00:34:41:10 – 00:35:05:11
What, like what were your thoughts on like when you see when it's kind of like when that tower goes down, that first one. I mean, it's the same sort of thing really. I think, it's just you felt it was coming down. You felt like how how does a building withstand a plane hitting it? Yeah. And so when it fell, it was almost like.

00:35:05:13 – 00:35:28:07
Yeah, I mean, obviously that was going to happen. Hopefully everyone got out. Really? Yeah. It was. Yeah, it was mad. It was mad having it be there and that those two towers so synonymous with everything, with films, with anything filmed in New York, you know, your friends. Friends, for example, would have a cutaway of New York and the Twin Towers there.

00:35:28:07 – 00:35:45:12
Even to this day, they still I still watch friends of an evening. Yeah, I know how it on in the background. Yeah, I still have it on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me and my girlfriend. But every time you mentioned I look to Twin Towers like that, it was, Yeah. So to just have something there and then it's gone was was bizarre.

00:35:45:12 – 00:36:08:14
But yeah, it was, it was very odd. And, you know, weirdly, it was well, not weirdly, but it was an excuse to whip up, you know, public perception about what needs to happen now in the Middle East. And, obviously they were going to go and captured al-Qaida and bin laden did not. Are we going to talk about the conspiracy theory?

00:36:08:15 – 00:36:34:24
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get to this. I just want to tell you, quickly speak about, the part where it was being reported people are trapped in the top tower and you could see them. Yeah. And they're waving from out the windows, arriving frantically with clothes, items and stuff like that. And it's like, fuck, man.

00:36:34:24 – 00:37:02:06
What? Like what happened? I remember seeing that and feeling trapped myself. A feeling really emotional, actually. Yeah. Just like, how the fuck are they going to get out? Like, what's going to happen? And then the reports of people just jump in and you're seeing them. Freefall. Yeah, it's pretty grim. And it's like how I been up there, mate.

00:37:02:07 – 00:37:27:13
Like there is no there is no point in made where my only thought is, I'm just going to have to jump and I'm going to have to end it now. So the train of thought of what was fucking going on throughout that part is it's just mind blowing. Yeah, it really is fucking I can't I still can't even, process it now.

00:37:27:13 – 00:37:50:14
I'm talking about it. It was just so how it must have been so bad up there that they would rather die and fall true to their death and experience what they were experiencing thus far. And you think about the people in there had to try and get down, you know, had to and was blocked and having to come to the realization that their life is over.

00:37:50:16 – 00:38:14:18
It's just how is it going to end? And at what point do they decide to end it? That is something that no one should ever be confronted with. Like, what's the ideal world? The most human way to to go about things is you live. You exist, God willing, to an older age and to a point where you're like, okay, I'm ready to go now, and then illness takes you or whatever it is.

00:38:14:20 – 00:38:34:19
And luckily, we live in a world now where if you're in a hospital or hospice, you're made to feel comfortable, right? So you're not in any agony, in pain. You can give pain meds, you're lucid, but you can also be in and out of consciousness. And actually the process of passing these can be, kind, right? It can be.

00:38:34:21 – 00:38:59:13
It doesn't have to be painful or full of fear. It can be relaxed and gradual. That's the ideal. So to be up there in your 20s, not ready and being confronted and having to make the decision to leap, I don't think anybody could fully understand what was going on up there and, intellectualize it in a way that anyone else could actually in any way appreciate or understand.

00:38:59:15 – 00:39:30:03
It's just it was crazy that the fear of the actual feeling of how fearful you would have been, and coming to the conclusion that that is, that that is the best way out of this, from jumping from a building where you're that high up is fucking just. May I still, man, it's it's insane. And then after you've got circus, you've got like, the jumpers, the people that are stuck at the Twin Towers have now collapsed.

00:39:30:03 – 00:39:51:00
And you've seen so many, like, now, from looking back, there's a lot of footage of when the when the, building collapses, the dust flying everywhere, people running to shops and building other buildings and all that look to get away from it. I still like I'm still.

00:39:51:02 – 00:40:18:02
Still kind of. I just can't believe it. And it's still like footage that comes out now, people and, seeing the buildings collapse. But then the stuff that really gets me is hearing the voice messages from people in the stuck on the planes, and they are saying bye to their loved ones. They're saying that, you know, the plane has been hijacked and they don't know what's going to happen, how they're going to get out of it.

00:40:18:02 – 00:40:46:19
Tell this person I love them and all that last. I mean, that's our worst fear as well, being in a plane and and going down. Yeah. It's fucking oh man. It's just trying to put yourself in that like you just. Yeah. My, my my mind just still can't comprehend it. You know, even all these things have happened and obviously it was unbelievable even to this, you know, only 25 years ago now.

00:40:46:21 – 00:41:08:08
But it's weird how it's become a bit of a joke. It's like people are comfortable making fun of this stuff. Yeah, we've all done it. There's, I mean, one of my I mean, I say one of my favorite meme is. And like, is the George Bush, you know, a plane has hit the second tower. The second plane is at the tower.

00:41:08:10 – 00:41:38:07
You know, I've actually got the, the actual quote. So Chief of Staff Andrew Card whispered to President George W Bush, A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack as that is fucking. Can you imagine hearing that, America? Can you imagine turning on your TV? And it cuts to the news and it says England is under attack.

00:41:38:07 – 00:42:01:01
Yeah, this is sort of it. When the first instance I was like, how do they not know? How did I not figure out there's a plane off grid or off or going against the air traffic control? Yeah. And they were able to get close enough to the center of New York without being shut down. But I know there has been explanations for this, and there'll be reasons why.

00:42:01:03 – 00:42:27:10
I'm just surprised that it got to that point. Like they they wouldn't have been aware. Maybe safeguarding has happened since then. They've learned a lot of lessons, but I'm surprised it like you always feel like they should have known. Like we know that terrorist plots are being foiled every day now. Yeah, but then shitloads of, huge amounts of money got invested in terrorism after it, didn't they?

00:42:27:11 – 00:42:52:02
Yeah, yeah. I mean, going back and I've seen that like, a lot of, so one of the, one of the, one of the dudes that was flying one of the planes and they, they trace him back to having a flight lessons in America, learning how to fly a plane, finding passports that were in the, you know, the wreckage and stuff like that, and all these other things as well.

00:42:52:02 – 00:43:16:10
It's just, it is kind of, I think maybe because I think maybe one of them was a plane that was hijacked from Boston or something. And because it's close to New York, once it's flying to New York and it's on that trajectory, you thinking it's just flying to New York anyway, and then it goes off line or goes, kind of out of the, the where it's supposed to be positioned.

00:43:16:10 – 00:43:47:03
And then they're like, fuck, there's a problem here, but it's too late. It's already in New York. He's already heading for that building. Before we talk about the, conspiracy theories, have you heard the stories of Michael Jackson, Seth MacFarlane, and Mark Wahlberg? All of them. Michael Jackson on the morning of the terrorist attack, he had a meeting in one of the higher floors of the Twin Towers.

00:43:47:05 – 00:44:16:17
The night before. He was on the phone late to his mum, and he woke up and he slept in, and he never made that meeting, obviously. And then the Twin Towers here. Seth MacFarlane was on one of the planes booked on, to from I think is from Boston to New York. He was out the night before, insanely hung over, missed his flight by ten minutes.

00:44:16:19 – 00:44:40:08
That is mad that he's mad. Mark 102. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark Wahlberg was supposed to be flying. So the one that. I think it's the one that hit the Pentagon. I'm not 100% sure that, he was supposed to be on that flight, I think is going to airline at this last minute. Changed his mind and went to a film festival in Toronto or something like that of his mates, and missed out on that plane.

00:44:40:14 – 00:44:56:07
Mark Wahlberg said if he was on that plane, it wouldn't. It wouldn't have gone down. It wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have been a terrorist attack, he said. I would have, you know, if my family were on that plane, they wouldn't have gone down there. They did, they did, they did. It did go down, but not the Pennsylvania one.

00:44:56:07 – 00:45:17:23
But they didn't. They. Yeah they did. Yeah. That overpowered him. Yeah. I've never heard it's called flight 73 or something. That film I've never I could never bring myself to watch it. Oh man. Yeah. Saying that just here in the because didn't they play that the role play. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Oh that's what I think. You know what you reference about the plane playing the messages on the fly.

00:45:17:24 – 00:45:39:00
Anything. A lot of it comes from that. But I knew they were going down. So they, made that. But it's fucking math in it. Yeah. Like, is it number one. It's about like him Steve Buscemi like he helped out during 911 because he used to be a fireman, I believe. And he went back to the fire department.

00:45:39:00 – 00:46:07:12
He used to work out and kind of enlisted himself as a volunteer to help clear rubble and help clear people, you know, that were trapped and all of that stuff. But he apparently never, he never spoke about it, never advertised it. But obviously Steve Buscemi that, picked up on it. But, I mean, there's loads that we could go further into, but, you know, it's it's an our podcast, the conspiracy theories now.

00:46:07:14 – 00:46:43:21
Quite interesting because quite a few people emailed about the conspiracy theories, about, certain people owning the Twin Towers and that it was done on purpose. It's an internal job. If an insurance job. Now, one of the main kind of things where people are scratching their chin, you've raised actually, you've said it in this podcast. It was when the, Twin Towers came down.

00:46:43:21 – 00:47:12:16
Now, apparently, when the Twin Towers came down, they came down straight. And the, the resistance of when the buildings come down because structurally how they're built, there should have been some resistance but it just collapsed. Both towers just collapse straight down and it collapsed in the same. Right. As in if you were to, I don't know, drop a bowling ball off the side of the building.

00:47:12:18 – 00:47:36:12
They both collapsed and they both fell down at the same rate. Yeah. Now structurally and how they're built, that should never happen. What? Why? This is the problem, right. Science. Yeah. Science. Right. But there there's I'm just within seconds of googled it. Right. Okay. Yeah. Go on. So the this is the problem with with with conspiracy theories because no one wants the truth.

00:47:36:17 – 00:47:55:06
They don't want to get to the truth. They just want to be in a situation where they can share all this bullshit with each other and get excited. We are right. We're right. Look what we found that we found. Yeah. If you put as much time into nurturing the relationships with people around you, you'd be a great person instead of fucking digging through all this bullshit.

00:47:55:08 – 00:48:25:09
But, so this is the people, like, there's a controlled demolition. Do you remember that one? And that's. Yeah. If. And if you what? If you rewatch the video, you can see the, the light sparks of each demolition. Right. So exploding. So, so experts, this is what, according to AI, experts from institutions like Northwestern University have analyzed evidence finding no scientific basis for controlled demolition theories explaining phenomena like dust, clouds, compressed air and molten metal.

00:48:25:11 – 00:48:52:09
Molten aluminum from the planes. Investigations by the 9/11 Commission and the National Institute of Standards and Technology concluded Al-Qaeda was responsible and attributed the collapse of the plane impacts and subsequent fires for the falling of the buildings. Right now, that's officially what's said in scientific rebuttals about what's what. These conspiracy theories are. Right? Okay. Conspiracy theories ago.

00:48:52:11 – 00:49:08:15
Well, obviously they're going to say that they did. That's what you were saying. I was thinking, course, I was going to say that, you know, fucking who owns I mean, America. So I mean, of course they're telling you that. I mean, forget the I bit this this stuff would have existed before I. Right? I'm just saying it's out there.

00:49:08:15 – 00:49:23:05
I've used I like to find it. But you the point is what your reaction to what I've just said is. That is what people that don't want to believe it will go. Of course they're going to say that, right? Yeah. I'm in the middle of I couldn't give a shit who's right. Okay, so what are you asking me to do here?

00:49:23:07 – 00:49:35:02
I believe one or the other. I'm going to believe the scientists. Robin Jaffe, who lives in Delaware, who's spent half, half a life digging up on something that really got nothing to do with the.

00:49:35:04 – 00:49:53:24
Yeah. That's true. That is strange. Right? So now leave me alone and let's talk all my life, right? Okay. Right. That's fine. He telling me it's an inside job, right? It is. What drew me to, I mean, I'm not saying, I'm not buying this fucking. It's. I'm just telling. They're saying this place say they knew what was going to happen.

00:49:53:24 – 00:50:12:12
They let it happen to justify the wars in in Iraq, in the Middle East. When have they ever needed justification to go and do something? Why do they need the people on board? Tony Blair said, yeah, they've got weapons of mass destruction we like, right. Yeah. Well this guy and then it turns out they're right. Oh, shit. What are we gonna do with Tony Blair?

00:50:12:13 – 00:50:34:11
Nothing, really. That's what happened in it. So this kid mad that we would. That people were sitting there because of a hug. They we've they've got weapons of mass destruction. We've got intelligence that says weapons of mass destruction. What is that, a weapon of mass destruction? Is it nuclear bomb there? What is it then? I could be a nuclear bomb, I will go, it's a threat against us.

00:50:34:11 – 00:50:56:14
So. Yeah, because you saw what happened in America where they can blow us up, right? We're closer to them. Yeah. All right. 2 million people marched against it. 2 million people went into the center of London to say, do not invade the Middle East. We don't want to hear that. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so why so why they did it anyway, they went was 2 million people can.

00:50:56:14 – 00:51:16:13
Don't do this. It's only really weird. Now we are going to do it. We are going to do it. So why would they need to allow two planes to fly into a building if they'll just do it? Anyway, the evidence is in England. Tony Blair did it and then they found no weapons of mass destruction WMD. Do you remember that WMD, WMD?

00:51:16:19 – 00:51:35:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tricky. They didn't find anything I they didn't. So what happened to Tony Blair when he took us to war on the false pretenses? Nothing. No. Just went about it. Just resigned to become an advisor to someone. Yeah. Yes. Sorry about that one. I thought they did. So they looked like it. They had my back.

00:51:35:12 – 00:51:53:13
We make mistakes. Yeah. We were only human. You'll human. Yeah, I'm sure you. Yeah, I'm sure you done that human time, right? Yeah. So? So so do you really, really think they just let this happen? I, I I've got no idea. What. No, but so one of the emails I sent in was like, I think it's George Bush.

00:51:53:13 – 00:52:14:03
And there was another gentleman. When they die, the truth will come out, the truth will come out. Then what do we do? Going on? I don't know, I think it's a look at that, but there's a lot of chat about, engine jet. Is it jet fuel burning steel beams. Doesn't. Yeah. How do you know? Yeah, I don't know.

00:52:14:05 – 00:52:41:20
I'm presuming just let's just assume. Ricky, for a moment, you all actuating this idea that jet fuel can't melt steam? Steel beams. Right. How do you know? I don't even know what that means. I like the idea. Do you like jet fuel? And it wouldn't get hot enough to melt the steel beam, right? Okay. Not just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'm.

00:52:41:20 – 00:53:07:12
I'm assuming they think it may be true again. I don't care enough to find out, but, yeah, it may be true that, that that's in itself jet fuel, can't melt steel beams. But did anyone actually suggest that the buildings melted? They've just become structurally unstable due to a fucking plane flying into them. It wasn't just a jiff.

00:53:07:18 – 00:53:32:01
Anyway, the point is, is that, you know, people are saying this. The ones are most loud, but yeah, they don't know. So they quote other people who say that they know. And you're like, well, I found this information on the internet. They know how they do. They do. They know how of their information. Other names. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doctor so-and-so and he's at Berkeley University.

00:53:32:02 – 00:53:45:02
I've just read one out. I'm assuming it's right. The point is, if you find out that they're lying about it. Oh, well, what happens then?

00:53:45:04 – 00:54:15:12
All right. They did false flag operation. They use it to to to get public opinion on going to war. Right. Yeah. Yeah, right. You're right. Bastards. Now what? Yeah. What happens to you? What happens? Did you find the next committee conspiracy theory to get onto? Because you use it as a justification for your existence. That's why I think that 5G is melting our brains.

00:54:15:14 – 00:54:33:11
He does, he that does he really? Yeah. And people are looking at jet fuel. Jet jet fuel like the the the what they called chem trails. Chem trials. That's it. Yeah. All right. Yes. They are spraying us with chemicals. Right. To give us some cancer. You can do about it. They could probably in the weather as well.

00:54:33:11 – 00:54:53:04
Yeah. Controlling the weather. They can control over the so-called sword seed storming. It's naturally. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Conspiracy theories. I can actually create rain, which is fucking Mendel. I'm not sure. We don't feel like we should be doing that, but, like, you know. But nature's fine. Like, it will work it out, don't make that shit on me.

00:54:53:04 – 00:55:18:20
But, Yeah, but I was just. I just wrote, like, literally one guy around on this earth, and you spending time talking about chem trails all the time? No, but I do feel like if a plane flies into a building. Right. That is as long and cool as the Twin Towers. Twice. Right? Both of those buildings. A plane flies into it, right?

00:55:18:22 – 00:55:40:24
Why does it not fall sideways? Well, how does it just fall down? You could do that test a hundred fucking times, right? It's never going to fall straight down. Why didn't it fall over? I'm not doing conspiracy theory. You mean it should? As soon as it should have fell immediately? Yeah. Maybe fall. I mean, something must have happened at the top.

00:55:41:00 – 00:56:05:17
Might have come off more. If that was sideways, there might have been. That would have been kind of a structural weakness, but we should have slightly went to the side or some or something. How does it go? Well, I did the right down to play the least amount of damage the parent knew. Yeah. Not to say. Yeah. It was just a very controlled I think really the the buildings around didn't seem to be affected.

00:56:05:19 – 00:56:09:13
No. The, the

00:56:09:15 – 00:56:32:16
I was a bit I did think it would be odd that the plane just disappeared into the building. I thought even something would come out the other side. But. So if you believe that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you saying that it did did it actually, even though it was it a plane light because something definitely hit. Yeah. People definitely died.

00:56:32:16 – 00:56:54:07
Did they. Or they didn't. They die. But when it hits this plane, it just disintegrates. The plane disintegrates. It goes away. Yeah. I wonder, is that right? And then if there was a problem, I mean, no, there was only parts of the plane that was found as well. I think the one that crashed and they failed. There was a lot, but I can't really recall that.

00:56:54:07 – 00:57:15:18
There was like, oh, we found the wing and we found the fan and we found the seat out from like, surely there was a chair. Surely there was row 13 CC that they found, I can't remember, I don't remember studies of people in the plane. I don't even know find anybody's. You know what else we need to do?

00:57:15:18 – 00:57:43:14
It. Flier. 7800. Whatever. It was the one in Indonesia. Doug. Yeah, I knew you going to say that. Yeah. All right. I still don't know. And they said, I know they found fuselage. They call it fuselage. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. The worst thing is pilot error is pilot error. The sign of poor bastards on the, Air India recently is the pilot.

00:57:43:14 – 00:58:04:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my pilot, a pilot. Yeah, but my mum flew to India recently. Yeah, I went on holiday to Goa and I was like, hey, you five. She said, Air India, are you having a laugh? She was like, do you want to see the prices to go there? Of course I'm fine. That won't happen again. I was like, fuck, he meant to hang on a second.

00:58:04:20 – 00:58:25:20
Ricky, as an Anglo-Indian yourself and of Indian heritage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't trust Indian Airlines? No, I'm not after that fucking crash that's just happened. You would only fly BA or something like that. Oh, might be. I also like BA all the way as all, That's what I said. I'm not allowed to say that. You know me.

00:58:25:20 – 00:58:46:08
You can say that their their flight, their plane has just crashed. Yeah. If it is Ryanair, if it was fucking Easyjet, it doesn't matter who it was, where they're from, if their airline has just crashed. I'm not getting on it isn't that they booked. This is so lots less likely because all safeguarding are put in place after it happened.

00:58:46:10 – 00:59:05:08
Good. Yeah I mean it should. They fucking should they. Right before we end this someone actually did email in. Let me just fucking find the bastard. Right. It's just really quick. I just explored enough. Just this. Yeah. Go.

00:59:05:10 – 00:59:29:19
So. Yeah. Investigate is recovery teams found human remains in. The wreckage is inside the tower's body. Fragments embedded in elevator shaft stairwells and office floors, plane debris and human remains on nearby rooftops and streets. Some remains were found hundreds of feet away. They also have a kind of teeth, bone tissue, jewelry, wallets, clothing. All this was cataloged and sent to forensic analysis.

00:59:29:21 – 00:59:47:18
They identified some of the people on the plane using DNA testing. Right. I was going to say, how do they know? Like what? You are. Okay. We found human flesh in the in the lift. How do they know that was one of the when the fucking passengers. So this is so. So why don't we hear about the plane victim's much?

00:59:47:19 – 01:00:09:14
He said because the disaster was so enormous that plane victims were mixed with office workers, firefighters, police and civilians on the ground. There was no clean plane crash site. It was a horrific mass of debris and remains. Yeah, of course it was, because there's nothing there because, you know, this is what I'm saying. You're comfortable making that joke, right?

01:00:09:16 – 01:00:28:02
This is what they say. But what I don't know if I'm not joking, but I'm just saying no, but but we all. Why? Why is there why you said no? It just makes it was all a mass of bloody bloody. Yeah. And, Rick. Rick.

01:00:28:04 – 01:00:53:21
There was, you know, the guy who's a comedian, he looks like he's a bloody good wash. You went out, Kim Kardashian. Pete? Yeah. Pete Davidson. Yeah. His dad died in 911. Right. And when I did the roast of Pete Davidson, made jokes about his that died in the in the Twin Towers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We never joke about Tiananmen Square, do we?

01:00:54:01 – 01:01:15:18
That's not, all right to laugh at when the shrine got massacred. Yeah, yeah, but was it because it happens to us? We kind of like it. And we don't even joke about the London bombings. Ever. In fact, I've never heard anyone make. No, you're right. At Twin Towers. It's like fair game. What's that all about? Like I would be comfortable make a twin tower joke on the podcast.

01:01:15:20 – 01:01:36:14
I mean, I wouldn't really get much kickback. I wouldn't do it. But would you? I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't be comfortable doing it. But I feel like if I'm going to do it, it wouldn't be a problem. But we got more. We got more hate about Hope Solo's vagina than right than we would if we play. You know, I actually.

01:01:36:14 – 01:01:40:00
So why is it okay?

01:01:40:02 – 01:02:03:09
I don't know you to tell me don't. So I just I just find it strange maybe because it's like the. And I'm not saying you shouldn't laugh at these things. Yeah. It's a way of dealing with it. Right. And process it and moving parts. But it just seems like other terrorist attacks, like, you know, the ones that happened in Paris, the Paris bombings and the shootings at the back from the Bataclan, for example.

01:02:03:09 – 01:02:35:18
But yeah, better clown. Yeah, I remember that about the back. The I did actually do list before. So the major global events since 2000 and like new like will this be the 911. Right. So 2001 September 11th the obviously 911 attacks, 2003 Iraq war. I mean, that was bad. 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. Now that was a fucking that was that was that's got to be up there.

01:02:35:20 – 01:02:56:13
But it didn't have the same coverage. I felt like more people died a hell of a lot more people died. Yeah. It wouldn't do. No. Because it's such a it's a different type of thing isn't it. Yeah. Yeah sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It is a different type of thing. You're right. Anyway, I don't know. Global financial crisis, Arab Spring, mass protests in the Middle East.

01:02:56:13 – 01:03:29:24
Yeah. Rubbish. I'm a writer. Voice. What? I mean, no, no, it's good, obviously, that it happened, but it's in comparison to 911. But it's not 911 wins everything. The rise of ISIS like eight. So it's a competition, is it? It is. This is this is with the common, competition. Russia invaded Ukraine. I mean, the you know, this is September the 11th was the the big one, you know, the Taliban.

01:03:30:01 – 01:03:55:06
And I haven't even heard of the word Taliban, the article there and how, you know, you hadn't, I thought alcohol when it was first being touted. I thought it was a person. I thought I thought like, oh, yeah, it's Alan, you know, like, yeah. Oh yeah, I was on the second floor and finance Al-Qaeda. That's it, wasn't there this thing about bin laden as well, the body, like where is it?

01:03:55:06 – 01:04:16:23
And then they go, well, and I missed him. It's Muslim. There has to be had to be has to be buried. Was it a buried the 24 hours after the passing. Yeah, yeah. And it's a wedge baronetcy which I'm going to see dashed him and say and you're like, well what shouldn't you I know, I know, it's his faith, but yeah, pretty sure killing him is against his faith.

01:04:17:00 – 01:04:41:02
Yeah, right. Yeah. Hunt him down and killing him in a revenge. Revenge? Yeah, yeah, I like, but now you've killed him, right? That's. Stop all this. Let's do this properly. Now. Put him in. Put him to see. I mean, if we take his body back just to make sure. It definitely is not put him in the see, it's like, did you actually even kill him?

01:04:41:04 – 01:05:05:04
They should have William Wallace them. That's. You should like. Yeah, I'll say that I am arms, legs and head to the four corners of the States. Yes. And like I said as a warning, you fucking try this again. This is what happens to you. And they spend years and billions of pounds in a war and Afghanistan and all the troops over there hiding in caves and all that long.

01:05:05:05 – 01:05:30:07
And then they find him. They just when they say no one sees it. No. Yeah. Fuck you. This is insane. I'm convinced it happened. But if it didn't happen, well, what happens now? I don't know, who cares? So we're going to do it. But, the the the, look, if they said to you that we've got this, there's a lot of problems going on in the States or in the UK.

01:05:30:09 – 01:05:55:18
Yeah, right. You can we can spend hundreds of millions, if not billions of pounds chasing this man here. Or we can just invest in the health service, save loads and loads of lives, reduce cancer rates, weight and times. Old people eat whole people in our homes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you? What? Would you rather hunt bin laden or heat the homes of old people?

01:05:55:20 – 01:06:24:09
I would rather they fill the potholes in, if I'm honest. Potholes. I'm. I'm rich, I am, I'm active. I'm active on Devizes issues. I'm not joking. I am active on there. I'm. I'm complaining about potholes out the potholes. Off the potholes. What do you mean you're complaining? Where are you complaining? Those issues Facebook group. I'm like I'm I'm gammon I've got Brock I was look at your in a message in I'm guy councilor Ian Wallace.

01:06:24:09 – 01:06:47:05
That's his name. Can you sort he's put us on because I, I personal time the other night. Did I tell you this. No. I hit a pothole pitch fucking black driving 30 mile an hour. Oh my God. Bang that bang. So I sounded like. And I'm driving along slowly cos that's printer left and right. Oh my God. God.

01:06:47:05 – 01:07:06:21
The tire I've had to replace from pit in a pothole how much I pay my fucking council tax and they want to put it up. I wonder if they want to charge us more for doing less. And I've had enough. My. That is, that takes a piss to get Tories. And what, keep Renault warm. If they could eradicate every pothole in England.

01:07:06:23 – 01:07:23:03
Yeah. Oh, we're going to go and chase down bin laden. But you're not going to actually see his body. You're going to we're going to chuck it in the sea. And this is why they got to let the planes fly into the towers. So people be more concerned about actually catching bin laden, because what he did to us.

01:07:23:05 – 01:07:47:00
Yeah. Then, fitting a fix in the potholes. So maybe it wasn't me. Yes. I mean, bin all. They didn't even do anything to us. Essentially, Americans say, like, we should have just been like. Yeah, so sort the potholes. Flaky math. Right. Okay. I mean, I could speak for a lot longer about, if you had any problems recently.

01:07:47:02 – 01:08:05:05
I hit them all the time, and but but luckily, my tires haven't done, you know, the better I. Oh, no, no, I need that suspension. And it's like the fucking bearings. All the other stuff. Yeah. I mean, if you damage your will, then you're talking, you know, the bushes. I don't even know what they what. They're fucking cool.

01:08:05:07 – 01:08:27:08
But every time take over the air. Yeah. Your bushes on your tires are one. Fuck yeah. So I say anything because I, I bust my tire. I called out an emergency tire replacement surface Mondays. And even your tires are bald. And I mean what it look and my my tires were pulled like six points on your license. If you get caught by the police with bull tires.

01:08:27:08 – 01:08:46:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had no I was like, you replace the because you replace the last one last time I hit it because. Yeah, it was two, two years ago. I was a replacement for every two years. Yeah. I mean 20,000 miles on these tires. And why? Because they're fucking like Goodyear sports tires. Because of what? Stupid fucking car I didn't need.

01:08:47:01 – 01:09:08:02
These tires have to be replaced. £300 a pop for two. Oh, one for two. Oh, okay. Fuck me. Yeah. Every every turn, 3000 miles. I was like, it doesn't feel like a lot. And he said, normal tires, 50, 40,000, your tires 20,000 anyway. Because you can, you know, can't get any anymore where a lot more economical tires.

01:09:08:02 – 01:09:24:21
Well you have to get those fucking just I don't know, I just said can you replace my tires I think, what do you want me to do? He spent four hours finding new tires that cost less. Is that what you want? That's. Yeah, that's what I do. I know I've got a problem. I've got a man here. Fix it.

01:09:24:21 – 01:09:46:12
Yeah. Let me give you the money. You know, let me not speak to you again for ages. Right. How about the guy that came out and did it? He was the same man that changed your tire, and he knew he remembered me. But bearing in mind where I live, kind of fucking village delivered it. Just like. Yeah, one person that lives there, by the way, he's the postman and he's the land.

01:09:46:14 – 01:10:12:03
Yeah, I don't know. He remembered. He remembered so well. Funny. Yeah. Right. Okay. The topic for next week is going to be, so we do have something on a, you know, this called fuck Barry taught Barry the topic. Fuck Barry. The topic for next week is fashion. From 14 to 40 year old men. What was fashionable in your teens and early 20s?

01:10:12:03 – 01:10:42:13
What were you trying to say about yourself? 3740s a more comfortable? I'm more comfortable and at peace. We want to hear about your fashion faux past and the clobber where you knew you looked the Ballocks at my year seven school disco, I'd matching jeans and waistcoat kokanee I knew I fucking looked the tits right. I want to see your fashion photos as well.

01:10:42:15 – 01:11:05:17
I want to see the worst and the best. I've got loads. I'm going to post them on our Instagram because I just don't care. I've got photos of me with a mohawk I've got. And this one. Yeah. Must you remember my Sid Vicious T-shirt? You that you'd wear, like the tightest jeans possible? The Sid Vicious fucking T-shirt and black Turkish belt.

01:11:05:19 – 01:11:26:24
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Punk. My fucking so punk. Hahahahahahaha! I thought you, as I indicated, not punk. Yeah, I was, I didn't know what I was, right. This is you, all right? I find myself in some fucking ridiculous clothing. My my little brother. It was on the pod last week. He had some stages. He was. But he's a punk.

01:11:26:24 – 01:11:51:20
He was punk. He would wear a profile. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he had a mohawk that was a foot high. I've got a picture of him, actually. Have you seen it? We've been playing guitar with his mohawk. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's quality. And by the way, thank you so much for your comments about us having our first guest and for Alex and all, you know, all the, all the love you've shown and for the two years good product of our streets.

01:11:51:21 – 01:12:08:19
Right mate. Are well enjoyed it. Really enjoyed it. And I'm 100% going to get him back on his shame because the audio was so bad, but not much we could do. No, I mean, I didn't, you know, you couldn't get well when you want to listen to something, you listen to it. Yeah, you kind of go for it.

01:12:08:19 – 01:12:24:22
It was really good. It was really. I had a couple people messaged me saying, that's a really good episode. So, Nice. Did your mum, message you about it? Yes, she did it. So he she met. She listened to a bit of it. I've listened to it all, but. Yeah. How do you know what? Some of it.

01:12:24:24 – 01:12:49:09
If she's in the DMs again? Oh, she's saying it's just saying that she loves it. Loves that I love that episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't listen to all of those nine I got. I got nine and I know. So, if you've got anything about fashion, send it into lads anon pod@gmail.com and we're going to go into something only you know.

01:12:49:11 – 01:13:18:02
No we're not. This is, this is what the official. I've gone down on the summer bin laden. Well, okay. It's, it's always been on him. Was killed by US Navy Seals in, Abbottabad South. Made up Pakistan. Yeah. On the 2nd of May, 2011. Guys, we got him. The US took his body to the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson in the North Arabian Sea.

01:13:18:06 – 01:13:49:06
Later that day, he was buried at sea. The official explanation was that Islamic burial rites were followed. He was washed, shrouded, and prayers were said. He was buried within 24 hours, as required by Islamic custom. No country was willing to accept his remains. A sea burial prevent this grave becoming a shrine or a rallying point. So there is no grave, no time, no so tomb, no location you can visit.

01:13:49:06 – 01:13:53:15
His body was committed to the ocean.

01:13:53:17 – 01:14:13:24
Watching your face as you're reading now and you shaking your head doesn't sound right, Mike. That does not sound like just shovel, man. I just shot some Arabic geezer and just put a turban on his head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him. Yeah, yeah. The thing is. Right. Can I just say. Can I say something? I'm almost certain he doesn't wear a turban.

01:14:13:24 – 01:14:33:24
And that's a different religious ritual together. It's something else I shouldn't have said type in the. But, I was, I was I can't remember my mind's eye. I know he had a he had a bad had a headdress of some sort, which I don't know the right, but turbans specific to Sikhs. Sikhs. So. So my bad, my bad.

01:14:34:01 – 01:14:44:15
Yeah. Nice try. It racism is accepted on this part at any place. You can be racist. That's right. Yeah, yeah.

01:14:44:17 – 01:15:12:19
But for them to be gunning him down and this war on terror, the Taliban and Islam and everything else, and then they gave him a respectable burial. Yeah, they do the prayers and they wash him and do this and buried it, say, within 24 hours. They respect all that he's done. The Twin Towers is cost America and the UK trillions.

01:15:12:21 – 01:15:37:04
And they do that. It just doesn't add up. It was a turban. He will somehow say yeah yeah yeah yeah. My my yeah I remember okay. All right. Now we should do something okay yeah I go.

01:15:37:06 – 01:15:43:12
Wow. Something you know.

01:15:43:14 – 01:16:06:23
Buck Barry. So about seven years ago, I got properly depressed, and at the time, I couldn't afford therapy, so I knew I had to work it out myself. I was I was taking my taking life way too seriously and concentrating on failing, on a failing business. So I thought the best thing to do was to reintegrate things back into my life.

01:16:07:00 – 01:16:39:00
That made me happy. I decided to buy a season ticket more than therapy. I know the Tottenham and stop making music. Two things I gave up the year before. Anyway, a year or so later, due to the music I made, did about 4 or 5000 followers on Instagram and this weird thing started happening. For some reason, younger birds started sending me DMs calling me daddy sur un master what?

01:16:39:02 – 01:17:07:23
At first it felt super weird that because I made music anonymously and there wasn't a face to the account, I started getting a bit brave of it and playing along. I was getting these young women, some of them absolute rockets, messaged me in the morning asking for their daily rules and chores, or they'd write my name on their body before they left for work or college and all weird shit like that.

01:17:08:00 – 01:17:30:15
Anyway, within a couple of years, I met this woman online. We'll call her Ellie, who had a boyfriend. We'll call him Barry. They had a couple of kids and by all accounts they were happy. But it wasn't long before she started playing up as well. Calling me master was sending the odd pic, but then it started getting properly.

01:17:30:15 – 01:17:58:03
Our hands turned out that Ellie's favorite thing to do for me was right. Fuck Barry across its ears and then send me videos of it. Swing herself while screaming, Fuck Barry, you own this pussy as she orgasms. I knew it was absolutely nuts, but there I was every morning watching Ellie send these extreme videos where she was degrading Barry.

01:17:58:05 – 01:18:20:05
This was going on for a good few months until one morning I got a video and instead of a Fuck Barry video, it was her crying. Turns out she liked the vid she sent me so much, she used to save them on her phone to rewatch Barry that morning, had gone down her phone and seen all the videos and pics.

01:18:20:07 – 01:18:44:19
Everything. I couldn't believe it, I imagine it, it's bad enough finding out your missus has sent stuff, to say stuff to another man, but to see stuff she was sending evolving his humiliation must have been awful. She told me she has to block me. And if she could sort things out with Barry, fuck knows what she felt obliged to tell me anyway.

01:18:44:24 – 01:19:03:02
One of her mates followed me to. Yes. She used to send me stuff and had her own interesting kink, but one story at a time. Oh, you didn't send that in, so you need to send that in, by the way. Yeah, and she updated me on a lunatic. She updated me with a local lunatic and got her pregnant.

01:19:03:04 – 01:19:24:19
So now this poor bloke has lost his family and ended up having a kid with a well-known nut job. I feel like I've completely ruined this guy's life. And I still think about it nearly every day. I stopped entertaining these messages and cleaned up my account, which is now just my normal account. And that is something I need online.

01:19:24:19 – 01:19:46:00
I'm desperate to see this account. Yeah, I know what it is. Clean it up. He still got off some of the old stuff on there. Yeah, right. Look, I'll be honest. Yeah, I don't know if 100% believe all of it. Right. Okay. Well, what bit lost? Well, just so many girls were doing this. Master calling the master.

01:19:46:00 – 01:20:02:21
Unless his music was around that and it's sort of BDSM music or something. What was he doing? So was it just one person that was doing that? The way I heard it was. It was lots of girls. But yeah, loads of, saying about master and tell me what to do. And right in the night like that he talks about my daily tools.

01:20:02:21 – 01:20:23:22
Yeah. Well, I don't know that. I'm sure about it. I'm not saying you're not true. It just the way you wrote it sounds a bit like, I don't know if I believe it. Oh, yeah. I mean, fuck Barry. Fuck Barry of it. It's fucking great. Love it. Absolutely love it. Yeah. Right. Next week the topic is fashion.

01:20:24:03 – 01:20:46:19
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