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😳 This week, the lads comb through The Epstein Files. We dive into Jeffrey Epstein, sex trafficking, Epstein Island, Prince Andrew, Donald Trump, Lord Mandelson, powerful elites, and the shocking documents shaking the world. Who knew? Who’s guilty? And why does accountability feel so far away?
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- 00:00 – Opening chat
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Full Episode Transcript
00:00:00:09 – 00:00:28:05
Go, Ricky. I'll press the cardboard button. Go. Start speaking the podcast. Okay, good. Good, good. How are you? I guess you got some view. Well, I mean, it's not. It's. I hate going to the shops, as you probably know. Yeah, because you make it as difficult as possible for yourself. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking horrible. I mean, I'll do everything online, but last weekend, when I went to the football.
00:00:28:05 – 00:00:48:24
Now, I don't know if this is weird or not, but I have three pairs of jeans that are in rotation there. They're the lads, right? They are fucking number one with when I open the wardrobe and I look and they're like, mate, meh, I'll never let you down. So, pick me and I'm like, what did you do when to get on these?
00:00:48:24 – 00:01:13:21
Like top man shut down, mate. Fucking nightmare. What? My eyes. I just go top down to the jeans they like. They're last about three months, then I get another. Yeah, yeah. And now I'm like, I don't know really where to buy jeans. H&M for me, H&M, H&M or, River Islands. Yeah. I, I do invest in my jeans.
00:01:13:23 – 00:01:31:17
You do? Yeah. I've got a pair, a couple of pair of Edwin's, and they last ages. I'd say 5 to 10 years. You'll get out of them. I mean, they need to, considering that you go to sleep in jeans and, yes, watch as I wear them. Yeah, yeah. The need to be just gone. And I've had them about eight years now.
00:01:31:17 – 00:01:54:15
These ones. Do you remember? Like there was, What was it, Wrangler jeans. But it's like, you know, when you, when you work in a ranch. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, lovely. How do I look in there, pop? My button is a bit tight. These are Ralph the Wrangler jeans. Oh, that fucking out there?
00:01:54:15 – 00:02:15:00
Is that t k max? Right. No. A lot of parent headwinds. I'd happily spend £150 because I know, like you could, but you end up spending more in H&M over an eight year period on jeans and £150. That's crazy. That is crazy. Would you. No, I wouldn't. No you wouldn't. Eight years. No no no, because you would.
00:02:15:00 – 00:02:31:15
Rick. How long do you. I said can I. Eight years. Say. Yeah. Eight is a lot. About a year. Those Edwin jeans are going to last eight years. They, What have we been talking about for a long five minutes? I just told you, they have. No, I think they probably have an expiry for eight years, but that.
00:02:31:17 – 00:02:49:12
But you said you've had the same pair of jeans for eight years. Two pairs. Yeah, I've had them about eight years. And the need one has gone because they're my favorite pair when I wear them. Yeah. But you, how many, how many pairs of fucking jeans you like? Bye bye bye. What was it? Well I had yeah, I had to wash it.
00:02:49:14 – 00:03:13:13
Yeah. That's it. So I said, well I had three pairs of, I mean, like the H&M and River Island, those on rotation and they're, you know, they're good lads, good lads. They, they do the job. And because of since Covid, I barely wear jeans anymore. And last weekend I went to go to the football. I put my jeans on and I was like, oh, what's that?
00:03:13:14 – 00:03:33:06
And I felt my nut poking through the jean and I was like, fuck, what? What? How did this happen? Why is this happen? So immediately in those jeans, I was like, fuck you. Now that could have been gone. Yeah, exactly. I could have been no, a nightmare, that one. And then I went hunting for the second that I couldn't find them.
00:03:33:12 – 00:03:54:04
I still cannot find my fucking jeans. Just vanish. And then the third pair that a darker blue, not really a blue fan of jeans. And I was like, what do you want? And they were they're a bit tight, they're a bit tight. So in the end, just to the football, and it was like just getting in and out for a half kick.
00:03:54:06 – 00:04:18:01
So it's quite, you know, getting on verging on dark at where the ones with a bit of numb. My office blue chinos. That's what. Oh my chinos are fucking. You can't fucking turn. Well I turn up with a shirt and tie and a V-neck jumper and a briefcase. A Tottenham with yellow chinos all the time. Yeah. No, I roll them up the bottom.
00:04:18:04 – 00:04:39:23
I don't, you know, I'm a salmon pink chinos. They're my favorite I think I did I think my missus is chop them away. I can't find them anywhere. Good I hate them. Oh. Really? Yeah. She hides my clothes. That stuff that she doesn't like, which is quite a lot. She. She'll hide my clothes at the bottom of the basket and intentionally even not wash them or not iron them.
00:04:39:23 – 00:05:11:02
Yeah. And I forget about them. I forget like this. Good. I like, this. Did you miss this iron a lot? Yeah. John's everything every day. Really? It's not boring. I we, Yeah, they. I don't think I iron anything until I go to a wedding or a funeral or something like that, but because, like, I was saying, like, with the, since Covid, we don't iron anymore.
00:05:11:04 – 00:05:33:18
I don't wear my jeans anymore. Like, everything this just changed has been great. But now I'm going to have to go to the shops after this and I'm going to have to re-up. And, what I'll probably do is buy three pairs of the same jeans, three pairs of black jeans from H&M, these forever. Just do me a favor.
00:05:33:20 – 00:05:54:06
A 30 like. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. It's like you're not going to do this because you will stop it. And you just have your own ways, and you don't listen to people. Or are you going to say, go to the shops and go fucking buy join Edwin James? No, go to t k Max and just look, just look, you don't have to buy anything.
00:05:54:09 – 00:06:15:05
Yeah. Look, with an open mind and you don't have to try to cheat. You know, you test the size of your G, your waist. No. You get the, You want to love this already to the waist. So if you hold up a pair of jeans. Yeah. And you put it around your neck, your. The width of your neck is the width of.
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Sorry, the circumference of your neck is the width of your waist. Fuck off. Honestly. And so if it fits around, how could not if it I can put my hands around my neck. I can't put my hands around my wife. No, no no no no I'm not saying the circumference of your waist, circumference of your neck. Yeah. It's equivalent to the width of your waist, the width.
00:06:36:15 – 00:06:55:15
And then it's not around, when you hold it. Right. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. If they, if the material touches at the back but barely, they're going to be tight on you if it touches sort of, you know, comfortably then you know, the, the right size.
00:06:55:17 – 00:07:10:01
Do it just one year and shops later. Just do it. Get a 32 and you'll see it be too big. Get 30. You know, be perfect around the neck. Well oh I could just try them on. No, I mean you. Then you have to go. And you got a gun to your trousers. Oh yeah. Especially when you're wearing converse as well.
00:07:10:05 – 00:07:37:18
I, you know I'm like yeah. It's Yeah. You know, tie him up really tight. What is it that I don't know, it's just comfortable in it. It's comfortable with skinny jeans, skinny converse. Stand right up, but take him back. So I just want to say that that I said, like, when I go out and I go shopping, maybe it's a, you know, a social awkwardness or whatever, but I hate going out and I hate interacting with people.
00:07:37:20 – 00:07:51:15
I hate when I go into shops. And I've been in there for two minutes and someone says, kind of help you of anything? Immediately I'm like, nah, I'm right. And then I walk out the shop and I go to my car, and then I drive home because they've just ruined my day by doing that. Just leave me alone.
00:07:51:21 – 00:08:12:22
I, if I need any help, I'll ask you. But going to TK Maxx and then going through the racks, fingering through, like, some fucking dirtbag good stuff. Yeah, just going through Jane after Jane and then picking him up. Oh, no, I don't like that. Those are rips. Those are bootcut though. No, it's just there's no order.
00:08:12:22 – 00:08:33:18
I don't know, I don't know. You have to look through to get the gems that you need, but I'm not. Fuck you. Just look, Rick, you know, you surprised I'm surprised that you have the patience to look for a, It would generally is when the missus is doing something right. And also, I have to do. I have to do something to entertain myself.
00:08:33:18 – 00:09:00:15
She might be in Primark. I'm a God. How woman can spend so long is beyond me. Her and, Chloe, your daughter. I swear they look at every single item in the shop and. My nightmare. Absolute nightmare. What's, And if they'll spin up this week? No, no. Nothing, really. Just go. Just go to shopping, you know?
00:09:00:15 – 00:09:16:03
What about you? Nothing, really stressful week. But I want to talk about that. Right. Okay. Go with the jingling. Going.
00:09:16:05 – 00:09:54:01
The night I see, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi. Is quiet and midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. As I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers, do you know one of the happiest times I think I've ever had in recent memory, I never felt most content was when everyone was watching Tiger King during lockdown on Netflix 20.
00:09:54:03 – 00:10:13:01
Yeah, yeah, quite a great time. But I mean terrible. If he got Covid and died, obviously, as my nan did. But yeah, it was yeah, I remember film really like didn't have to go to work. Didn't have to. Yeah. Do much wasn't panicking about it. Was just the world shut down for a bit. As damaging as all that was.
00:10:13:03 – 00:10:36:06
Yeah. And you're allowed to go outside once, once a day. An exercise where I like the oh oh rule breaker. There was no one around. I remember once, right. I said, we shouldn't say this or I'm going to say the, because it was all ballocks really, wasn't it? But, you know, you were allowed to have a bubble of six people that can sit in your garden with, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:36:06 – 00:10:40:14
As soon as they said that, we just had loads of people around. Got.
00:10:40:16 – 00:11:03:24
In the garden. And I remember the teacher kept dropping off work for the kids who were in primary school then. Well, well, was anyway. Yeah. Kids kept drum dropping off. Teachers kept dropping off. Loads of homework for him to do. Like after schooling. We just gave up after about I'd say six weeks. The homeschooling was hell yeah, it was it.
00:11:04:05 – 00:11:25:17
I couldn't do it. How are they? How could they do it? And they were like at home and I didn't. That being in a school environment for learning is important because you're separated from what is comfortable. And so getting them to actually sit down and learn was was absolute hell. I had a newfound respect for how the teachers and the work they do everyday.
00:11:25:19 – 00:11:49:07
Yeah, I mean, six weeks, that's that's very good going. I think I did maybe ten days afterwards. I was just like, fuck this, this is stupid. Like, this is silly. I'm trying my best. I can't, but I can't. And I've got to work as well while teaching them. I've got to work. Well, she wasn't easy. Yeah. Was, was it not furlough?
00:11:49:07 – 00:12:12:23
You? No no no no no, I was fucking just still I mean, I don't I don't do the children. Well. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Right. What can you do. Don't cover each other's mouths when you work. Can we say where you work? Yeah. Fuck it. Go on. Did you like, you used to get, like, messages about terrible things that had happened on the railway.
00:12:13:00 – 00:12:38:04
Yeah yeah yeah yeah sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like any of it because you have, you have rail railway works that's going on. Yeah. There's bits. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well they had loads of it. Yeah. Oh not those bits, not those things I'm talking about, I'm talking about just general kind of, videos. Life on the.
00:12:38:05 – 00:13:03:04
Yeah videos. Life on the railway that a lot of people would be doing, like an engineering work. No, cause I was in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Men would be pulling up in their vans outside people's houses, got nowhere to go, and people would wake up, and there's loads of shitty tissue in the front garden where workers have just done a poo in their front garden.
00:13:03:06 – 00:13:22:15
Oh, boy. What's all the time? And I mean all the time. Well, what what? Some railway men are shitting in people's gardens all the time because there's no outside toilets. Yeah, now you think about it. It makes complete sense on the railways. There are no toilets for him to go in, and, so it's part of the job.
00:13:22:15 – 00:13:48:00
They're expected to go in a bush. Well, the normally they some as best as I can. They are provided kind of but the trucks allows and stuff. Yeah. The trucks are like this. There's so much traffic they can't be enough portaloos for every. You know, I know when I'm on the train, I never see. I never see a portaloo from the guy not actually know poo in someone's garden instead.
00:13:48:05 – 00:14:10:07
So what? You get complaints about? Yeah, yeah, loads of people. Just men shitting in gardens all the time. So there's no. That was a pandemic, I tell you. I could I mean, it's terrible. Yeah. Human. Did you ever see that video? The bloke gets caught doing a poo and the bloke and just chatting in my guard, and then he goes, sorry, I'll go call Joe.
00:14:10:10 – 00:14:18:16
Male. Yeah, yeah, I got diarrhea. The way they I saw it is just everywhere. I.
00:14:18:18 – 00:14:40:20
It's on my show. Yeah. It's terrible. And like there are some I don't know if it's like it now I'm fairly certain it is. But there are rural places in Scotland where when you have. So normally on a train where you go for a turn, it will be kept in a tank, you put into a station. That tank is empty.
00:14:40:20 – 00:15:00:13
Now when you're in rural Scotland or Wales or whatever, there's railway that goes on for ages and there's no where. There's no no one around. So you can empty that tank onto the tracks. And if you're going at a rate, it will just disintegrate, right? Wash it away and all that lot. That's why I say don't poo in the stations.
00:15:00:15 – 00:15:15:07
Yeah, yeah, because you would you would embed it and you'd see the lumps. Like people just do that actually. And you'd come out the train in the station and it's just a big shit that everyone's waiting for, you know? Seen the I don't think they do it anymore. The new trains, I think they capture it. I don't think it's.
00:15:15:09 – 00:15:39:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they. Yeah. Oh yeah. They capture it. Yeah. Yeah. And going to big stations like Paddington. Yeah they would most certainly. Yeah. In the old days with the train. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Lash it on the tracks and in Scotland and a lot of places in Scotland and Wales, they still do that. And what you'll do is you'll find, tomato plants growing on the track because the seeds are coming out of people, shit going onto the tracks.
00:15:39:16 – 00:16:01:20
And then tomorrow. Right. Yeah. That's quality. Yeah. It's quality. I didn't used to think like you can so that if you, if people Google what, the intercity trains or what they look like in the so 80s and 90s, I love them. I love those trains. So yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not even into trains, but they reminded me of going to Birmingham with my mum and the best.
00:16:01:20 – 00:16:20:11
I loved going on trains, I still love, I still love going on trains that, But the problem is now and I get to 44 once you go first class, you can't sit in the normal carriages anymore. They're just too uncomfortable. That is one thing that really, they. I love about you. Every time when you like, I'm like, where are you going?
00:16:20:11 – 00:16:40:14
You're like, London. I'm like, where? I said the first class, and then I'll get a flight of you sitting in first class. You've got what? So. So if you're on TWA, which is all railway service on the weekends, it's just £20 to upgrade and you get a free beer, you get a sandwich and a snack box, which would probably cost you about £12.
00:16:40:14 – 00:17:00:20
So that's for about £8. You get as much coffee as you want. So. Wow that's that's a alright actually. Yeah. During the week it's not if it's like £55. So if I'm doing a job I'd put it on top of the job I'm charging. Right. Yeah. Okay. Good. Sure. But my point is, is first class is really comfortable.
00:17:00:23 – 00:17:28:05
Standard class. It's like sitting on blocks of wood. Would anyone ever complain to Network Rail about the the comfort levels of the new GTI? It's terrible. It's really the seats are really, really hard. And some of these trains go from Paddington to Penzance. It's like a 5.5 hour journey. Yep. You know what I mean. Anyway, yeah. Back in the old days of the trains, they were really comfortable that spring by seats and they had a, they had a museum.
00:17:28:07 – 00:17:44:16
It was on a train to celebrate. I know 125 years of the rail service. However, it might be longer than that, whatever it was. And then every carriage was a different type of train. It was in Paddington. Oh, hey, I went in there and and I went, and you can walk down the whole train. And then there's different buffet carts that they had.
00:17:44:16 – 00:18:00:13
It was really nostalgic. It's really cool. Yeah. I mean, we get into the train that I used to get with my mum and I nearly burst into tears when like, it was just, just took me back to being a child and sitting on that train with her. And what have you used to do? Tell me. I'm not going to cry.
00:18:00:15 – 00:18:20:01
We'll be, but we used to do these when my grandad would drop us off and we'd leave from Birmingham International to go down to, Euston. He would drive to this point where he could watch us and he'd wave us off and we, as we'd go away with, wave at him in the train. So, that sounds lovely.
00:18:20:02 – 00:18:41:05
Yeah, he'd always, always do that. So it just it just took me back in a mate. But. But what I did remember thinking with them trains is that there's just shit that's human shit and tissue fucking everywhere. Like every station I remember. I remember you'd go in and the first go to the toilet and it said, do not flush inside the station because they knew the train was going to speed like you said.
00:18:41:07 – 00:19:02:12
Yeah, it would be obliterated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or be spread about. So that's not a big thing. But then I was thinking he was working on them tracks and it's just she said shit everywhere. Yeah. Just a matter you got, you got a, got a day job and it's just human shit everywhere. It's pit, it's pitch black. This reminds me of a story with, we went to Spain.
00:19:02:12 – 00:19:23:05
We decided in our infinite wisdom, we didn't have much money as a family. We'd never taken the kids abroad. And so we just went to Benidorm for a week so we could have got. But, Yeah. Do you know what? When you've got kids, and if you're like me, you don't want to do anything. You can sit on the beach or sit in a bar as long as you can sort of tolerate the number of dickheads around.
00:19:23:07 – 00:19:43:21
It's not bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And bright lights is always something going on. It's buzzing, you know, and there's a lot of, Yeah. Which call it, home comforts there. And such people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And rangers and soldiers everywhere. B but we, we went to the old town, which is actually quite nice.
00:19:43:23 – 00:20:00:22
It's a bit further away, so I could drive a cab. I know I should be thinking about Benidorm. It might have been someone else near, or we went. Anyway, the point is, you needed to go to for a wee. And there was a portaloo by the toilet, and she opened it, and there was just shit everywhere. She's on the wall.
00:20:00:24 – 00:20:26:24
She's on the taps, shit everywhere. And. Oh, I don't know how explosive diarrhea works, but he must have stood up. And because it didn't come from a woman, couldn't. She clearly screamed, oh, my God, has someone done that? There are all sorts of just exploded and just shit it. It's on the ceiling. It's everywhere. Someone's got to clean up.
00:20:27:01 – 00:20:53:19
What I love about, the last bit. Well, what I do love about poo, right? And human pee. You. Oh, if you're walk out walking and you see a big shit, you be like, that's a human pee. Yeah, I know, I know, that's a a human is done that a little cousin. Why is it that we know who's done the you know, I mean, I don't know, it's good point anyway.
00:20:53:19 – 00:21:14:04
Oh, you would, but do you know what we're talking about today? The Epstein files? Yes. That's right. Right. I know last week I said we're going to be talking about fashion. So I, we were going to be talking about fashion. And then I mentioned to flap about Epstein how everyone's talking about it and should we do an episode?
00:21:14:04 – 00:21:41:07
And then I put it to you guys on Instagram, and I said, I did a poll. And literally every single person has said, Epstein, and I know it's the, you know, fashion. Of course. Yeah. You know what? Three people actually did say? Fashion. I know, Epstein, it's been talked about around the world, but I want to listen to Ricky and Vlad talk about skinny jeans place off because it.
00:21:41:07 – 00:22:00:02
We'll do that next week. I have got some questions. You know, like, people are getting caught up in, like, oh, he was there is on Epstein Island. Therefore he's a fucking Rolland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.
00:22:00:04 – 00:22:23:01
I probably would have gone like I wouldn't if someone invited me and said, do you want to go to this island and party for a week? Yeah. And I didn't know that there were women being trafficked. If they knew then yeah, they 100% wrong and right. But he just thinks celebrities pose. Yeah. Bit of a cocaine get wild diddy points.
00:22:23:04 – 00:22:43:19
Oh yeah I didn't know. You don't know that they're happening like so. So you don't. It's just a party. It's a massive party unless. Yeah it's there's a there's a predefined understanding that that this is what's happening. This girl is being trafficked to the end so you can have sex with them. Then obviously that's fucking at the very least statutory rape, but just rape, right?
00:22:43:19 – 00:22:59:23
You're right. Lots of men raping women and women. Yeah. Then that's that's obviously not on. But generally I think some of these people on this island probably just went off. What? That sounds like a good time. Might as well. Is that not. Yeah. But I've got to say okay. I'm so okay. What's what's going on. So you all have to answer questions for me.
00:22:59:23 – 00:23:32:22
I don't know really. That's good, that's good. Right. It's a good starting point, right? What? I'll do is I'll read this first bit out. Good. Jeffrey Epstein was an American financier, and through his successful financial career, Epstein became a multi-millionaire and developed a social circle that included extremely wealthy individuals, prominent politicians and even royalty. He was arrested in July 2019 on sex trafficking charges and most awaiting trial in jail.
00:23:32:22 – 00:24:04:17
Epstein killed himself by hanging. Epstein died in a New York prison cell on the 10th of August, 2019, as he awaited without chance of bail, his trial on sex trafficking charges. It came more than a decade after his conviction of soliciting prostitution from a minor, for which he was a registered sex offender and went to prison for 13 months.
00:24:04:19 – 00:24:33:10
So a decade before that, he'd already been put in prison for 13 months for soliciting prostitution with a minor. So convicted pedophile. Oh, right. So he was a convicted pedophile, and people were going to the island after that. And there were still loads loads of people coming out throughout the years. Went to trial, didn't get press, didn't get done for it, paid his way through.
00:24:33:12 – 00:24:58:06
There is loads of people where they'd come forward and said he's sex trafficking in this, and they went to the island. After these accusations. Yes. Oh my God. Now, ten years before you allow me to retract what I've just said would have nine, I didn't know, I didn't know, I wouldn't have known, I wouldn't have gone. Obviously. I just thought he was having loads of parties.
00:24:58:08 – 00:25:22:09
And the women, they were secretly providing, the women and people were taken advantage of. Oh no. They were just felt like women at the party. Like if I went there, just be women at the party or men at the party, whatever it might be. Yeah, they knew he was a a, that he'd had sex with a minor and they knew he was being done for sex trafficking, and they still went to the.
00:25:22:11 – 00:25:47:21
Correct. Yeah. So yeah. That's mental. You can't do that. What? You can't do that. Just cos what what I will say is yesterday lost research in this, it was only yesterday that I found out that he'd been to prison for 13 years. The conviction of of actually, sorry, 13 months for being an actual pedophile. I think it was.
00:25:47:24 – 00:26:11:02
It was a long time. Yes, yes. Right. So he's a certified pedophile. Was certainly pedo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's so many stories prior to his, arrest in 2019 where there are lots of stories about sex trafficking and prostitution and what went on, his island and all of that stuff. So a lot of people still went.
00:26:11:03 – 00:26:51:15
Now. So this time he is it's July 2019. He's in prison, he's awaiting trial, and he can't get bail. The he's accused, right? This is what he's accused of. Running a vast network of underage girls for sex and sex trafficking. Vast. The word vast. I mean, it's fucking mental. And then, you know, he killed himself. Do you believe it?
00:26:51:17 – 00:27:14:22
Fucking God. No, I do not believe. He was facing 45 years in prison. And apparently, like, you know, by the evidence that would have stacked up, you know, he is more than likely would have gone down for a long time. But he was killed because the worry would be that there are people on famous instrumental people on the list that don't want to be, exposed.
00:27:14:22 – 00:27:38:02
They don't want the trials to come out. Yeah, yeah. So they killed that? Yeah. That's I mean, that is my also this is my my thought. I remember actually, to be fair, I remember, at the meme, Epstein didn't kill himself. Now. Yeah, I remember on the internet, you know, he had a plane that he nicknamed the Lolita Express.
00:27:38:04 – 00:28:00:14
I didn't know that. It doesn't surprise me, though. The Lolita Express is a nickname given to the Boeing 727 aircraft that was owned by Jeffrey Epstein. Sex parties involved an underage teenage girls allegedly allegedly occurred on board the airplane organized by Charles Lane Maxwell. Is it just lounges? Yeah, I did want I actually want to speak to you about this.
00:28:00:14 – 00:28:18:20
I have no idea how you pronounce the name Jesus Lane. Glenn. Glenn Maxwell, that's the thing is. Yeah, yeah. You know, she's the daughter of Robert Maxwell. He was a media magnate who nearly bought Tottenham. I did not know that. Yeah, he tried to buy a Tottenham and I think it was in the 80s. He was he was trying to buy a Spurs.
00:28:18:22 – 00:28:37:12
And in middle age I might be getting some of this wrong. But mid acquisition is when he died on his boat. But he was oh fuck. Really. Yeah he was a wrong on as well. He's a massive piece of work. Yeah that they didn't even hide it. Is it. Was it named Lolita Express. Do you think by him.
00:28:37:12 – 00:29:16:02
Because that would be two surely. Like if that might be the name the press gave it. But the thing is, I about all of this, I, I've kind of read about. It obviously, you know, power and I think he knew that he was so untouchable and he had such a vast network. His tentacles went everywhere that he would like to see how far he could push it, like calling his playing that really.
00:29:16:06 – 00:29:41:23
And and then knowing that he had been on trial and accused and all this stuff that's going on and in the industry, most people knew that he was fucking a nonce. It's like that. So it's just like a yeah, a no one kind of said anything because of how powerful this guy was, which is mental. Now, before we talk about documents.
00:29:41:23 – 00:30:07:00
So there's more than 3 million documents, 3 million documents and photographs and videos that at the heart of the Epstein files, that's a lot of shit to look through that there's a lot of evidence in it. So a lot of shit there. Yeah. And what I do want to say, like when we are talking about different things and when I highlight things in this and I'll hopefully I'll remember to reiterate it.
00:30:07:02 – 00:30:31:17
But some of the stuff that is covered in the files doesn't mean that they are they're guilty or that they've done this. It just means that it was listed in part of the file, right? Yeah. And you can actually go on to the gov of, America and go through every single file of yourself. They're all they're really it's.
00:30:31:22 – 00:30:53:22
Yeah, mate. It's fucking mental. Utterly mental. Type in and you can find any single and you could do a search as well. Why is it like a website built for it. Yeah. I don't know if it's a website built for it, but it's like freely to go on. Well, Epstein files PDF, Epstein Library of Justice. Yeah yeah yeah.
00:30:53:24 – 00:31:20:16
All right I gotcha. Yeah, you can see, yeah, you can see. Everything is fucking mad. Isn't this like, isn't there going to be a court case or something? Well, I don't know. So like it, like I just said, if I, if I mentioned stuff and I will remember that just to say that it is listed in this thing, but one of the things that most people, pissed off about that obviously he was arrested and died in 2019.
00:31:20:16 – 00:31:42:08
And how long it taken for these Epstein files to be released? Because everyone knew kind of what was in them and what they've been hidden. And you get a couple of pages here, there and then most of it's redacted and stuff like that. So why do you think that it's got, it's it's taken so long to come out.
00:31:42:10 – 00:32:07:07
I mean, I don't fucking know. What I mean, I just, I just I'm just sorry. I've just clicked I've just clicked on the I'm look, I'm official document revised July 27th. And it's just a picture of a soap on a rope. Lather up pussy that there's mad stuff in it. Go ahead and work yourself up with a suds into a sudsy lava.
00:32:07:07 – 00:32:27:04
This playful pussy will bring a new lick to your shower or tub. There isn't a better way to start your day than with a little pussy. Are you? Are you on the right website? Yeah, this is evidence. This is kind evidence. Article 1B123B. What does it take? So what I don't know. Why did it take so long?
00:32:27:04 – 00:33:04:16
What is it? Is there a court case? Is there what? I don't know when this is. What? Find all this evidence. What did I do with it? How? How? And that's the thing I think there's because there's like. It sounds weird that like, you kind of, not, everybody should be, you know, tried. Right? Sure. Right. But this is being in an email of, I don't know, Epstein talking to fucking Prince Andrew and saying something that it's just an email that's not evidence.
00:33:04:16 – 00:33:28:21
Right? That's just a conversation. Like, who knows whether that actually took place or what was right or whatever. So they surely it's going to take years for them to build a case of cases. Right now, I will talk about the wild stories of these individuals. Will be discussed, but the main thrust of the conversation will be around why is nothing been done what we've just spoken about?
00:33:28:21 – 00:33:51:06
But I do want to say, we'll will go to Trump first because that's the main one I'm looking at. Where did they get all. It's like, well, I'm looking at pictures, photographs, tons and tons of photographs. Yeah mate. Imagine having this job finally seven and and scanning everything about me. I feel shit you would say sorry. But.
00:33:51:06 – 00:34:30:13
Yeah, yeah. So, Donald Trump like Donald Trump's name, appears in the Epstein files more than Harry does in the entire Harry Potter series. Right. But according to the New York Times, Trump is mentioned around 38,000 times across 5300 documents related to Jeffrey Epstein. The context the name Harry, including full mentions, shows up to 18,956 times across all seven Harry Potter books.
00:34:30:15 – 00:34:49:16
So you can what I think what people are trying to his name to mention 38,000 times more than Harry Potter is named in the Harry Potter books. Right. And he's the president of America, that is, you know, the video evidence of grab a grab, grab it by the pussy, all the other mental stuff that he says.
00:34:49:20 – 00:35:13:15
Yeah. And and all the, you know, you can't see evidence, but all the accounts that people are talking about of Donald Trump, how involved he was with, Epstein and why hasn't anything been done you always hear about in American. I don't really get it right. Maybe you can invite me. Oh, you should be impeached. Impeach him.
00:35:13:17 – 00:35:38:16
Not I don't know what that means, but I hear it bandied around a lot now. There was there's like there's so much kind of documentation about his involvement with Jeffrey Epstein and the underage girls and all of that. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah. So impeach just means, like, charged with a crime, right? Okay. But, yeah, I know, like what?
00:35:38:16 – 00:36:00:23
What's a prince? Andrew? I know he's calling Prince Andrew more and more. You got George Saxon or whatever the fuck his name is Baton Rouge. Sorry. But he's like, why hasn't he been charged? Why isn't these people? If there is been crimes being committed, why aren't they? Why isn't there a building or are they building a case against them?
00:36:01:00 – 00:36:30:09
That's that's the thing I don't know, like Lord Mountbatten. Fuck you in. Yeah. I can't remember the rest of his name. But anyway, apparently Epstein paid for a prostitute. That, young lady, I can't remember her name now. And, I think he's passed away now as well. All right? He paid money for the prostitution of her to Andrew.
00:36:30:09 – 00:36:56:01
And there was, you know, there's that famous photo and stuff, but it went to court. And then he says, I didn't do it. That wasn't me and stuff up, but then made an out of poor settlement to her. But why would you do that? Just. Yeah, I mean like, yeah, that's what they do is saying, right? Just stop this because he doesn't wanna go to court, doesn't have to try and prove his innocence.
00:36:56:01 – 00:37:17:10
Maybe he knows more stuffs. Come in. Yeah, yeah. Financially reward them. But if you're really rich, you might want to throw money at it to make it just go away. It's not going to help your credentials. Is it that if you have to go for a court case, even if you're innocent, people remember the court case. So, in this instance, probably not innocent, right?
00:37:17:10 – 00:37:41:14
So pay for it to go away, and then the guilt or whatever, whoever's involved takes the money and has changed their life. And, you know, they probably can't afford to do the trial, especially in America. They can't afford to fight this fight, pal. No, they might be no shame, because in this instance. So that was so let me just find you.
00:37:41:16 – 00:38:11:13
What is that take if I can. I just said I doubt thank me. No, son. Okay, let me just, read you. So this, this has been this is in the Epstein file, right? And this, I have to mention that this is someone else's, recount. It's their evidence. And the reason why it wasn't, included in a trial or taken further, is because the person was deemed to have mental issues.
00:38:11:13 – 00:38:42:23
Right. So it could be that they're just, you know, from their experience, mental or, you know, someone just trying to pull them down. But there's loads of different little cases like this. Listen to this. Donald Trump, the president had parties at I can never pronounce this primarily Mar-A-Lago. Mar-A-Lago where he lives called Calendar Girls. Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and Trump would auction them off.
00:38:43:00 – 00:39:15:00
He measured the children's vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and rated the children on tightness. The guests were older men and included Elon Musk, Donald Junior around. Could Trump Eric Trump, Eric Trump with their attorney, Alan Dershowitz, was also there with attorney Bob Shapiro. We were taken in remains forced to give oral sex to Donald Trump, forced to allow them to penetrate us.
00:39:15:00 – 00:39:39:11
I was 13 years old when Donald Trump raped me. Glenn Maxwell was also present. That's part that's in that's in the Epstein files. And like I said, this is one person's account. So, you know, and it can be given in evidence. I want to get you right. Yeah, absolutely. You fucking Trump. And, He love that. I mean, that is insane in it.
00:39:39:12 – 00:40:15:04
Yeah, but the there are lots of different types of accounts like this. I guess it's quite easy for them to say that that didn't happen, that this is hard to prove. It did happen, didn't it? Yeah. So, you know, he's asking the question about why people haven't been charged. Yeah. I just looked at this from an attorney and they said, some legal observations say that any allegations of criminality in these documents, including allegations of sexual abuse at the hands of individuals other than Epstein, aren't necessarily enough to spark a prosecution or prove a crime occurred.
00:40:15:06 – 00:40:41:04
The issue is with the Epstein files, they are hearsay. They're not admissible in court, Neema Rahmani, a former US president prosecutor, told CBS. She said that, unless prosecutors have access to witnesses willing to testify against someone else, there's no case. Cases aren't built on documents. They're based on witness testimony. That is a scary thing to do, wouldn't it?
00:40:41:04 – 00:41:06:01
To go up against people like president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world? I mean, and do you think, like you like you're never going to win that, are you know, like, and the guy's been like, he's done all those things and been reelected, but people don't seem to give a shit is minimal. This is what this is.
00:41:06:03 – 00:41:31:17
This is one of the main reasons for this conversation. Now, obviously, that there is all this stuff in the Epstein files is 3 million documents, loads of people. Have been named and shamed and been to the island, haven't been there. Whatever. People are angry because one that this happened in 2019 and, it's only now that the Epstein files have come to light.
00:41:31:19 – 00:41:51:13
Remember Asiago Donald Trump was going on about where the Epstein files and like, everyone's been secret and, you know, on about UFOs and about this and that. And when I get in power, I'm going to release everything. They got into power, and he didn't release anything. And now he's being for his hand is being forced to do so, and now everything's out.
00:41:51:15 – 00:42:16:07
It's, obviously his his name's fucking in there 38,000 times or whatever, but it's fucking mad in it. How how I know all this and like, all these documents, like fucking. How was, I was Epstein, a financier before these emails flying about. Fuck. You know, do some works on I think, Oh, you're right. It's mad how sloppy he was as well.
00:42:16:07 – 00:42:30:12
If he's committing these crimes. Like what? I don't know, maybe it's impossible to. Maybe it's impossible to, you know, hide stuff. Let me. Yeah. Okay. Right. Why is it such information?
00:42:30:14 – 00:43:06:02
Yeah, exactly. This is why I always as well I like him. How brazen he is. Sorry. I'm jumping around, everybody. You keep saying stuff and you're not the brain like. Well, I was going to say something previously about, Fuck. Yeah, I forgot there was another bit in here. Right in these appsync files. Not in the actual files, but there's a lot of chatter online when people have looked through these files that Epstein has code names in his email code word.
00:43:06:02 – 00:43:37:05
Sorry. Right. And it, it's all around like pizza. Pizza is like a young girl. Cheese is a very young girl. I got ice cream. A young boy's. When are you coming for that pizza party? I had a lovely pizza last night. Extra cheesy. All this type of chat is throughout all these emails between senior men, senior people, you know?
00:43:37:05 – 00:44:02:15
I mean, it has all of it. You know, they decoded that. Like, is it just is that what is it? Well, it's a lot of stuff that's appearing on online ways of say that. Yeah. Exactly. Of how how they talk so openly throughout these emails without actually saying specific words. I thought we were just going to have like a bit of, you know, like light hearted, you know?
00:44:02:17 – 00:44:25:09
Yeah. When it all those people going on like what Stephen Hawking's doing there, like, what could he have got. Right. But now this is just grim, right? Yeah I sorry so, I'll, I'll sign up a space. Yeah. That's making me feel a bit sick. Well, okay, I'll stop mentioning the actual things that happen, but it's just,
00:44:25:11 – 00:44:37:17
I don't understand why these people are so powerful that they turn into monsters. Is it because that they have so much.
00:44:37:19 – 00:44:59:17
Power and their freedom to do whatever they want? That they have to up the ante to a point where it's because normal stuff doesn't get them off anymore? Yeah. Do you think that's what it is? Because it has to be. I. Lot, I've said this before. I'm not poverty. If I ever have sex again, I'm definitely not flying to an island to go and have sex with loads of people.
00:44:59:19 – 00:45:15:11
I'm definitely not gay. And if I know there's been people trafficking underage kids, that last place on earth would wanna be there. Not. I mean, it's not even that usually seems like older couples go swinging parties and stuff. I don't know what it is in me. I'm just kind of like, I'm. I don't mind, like, I don't, I'm, I'm fine with, but not.
00:45:15:13 – 00:45:40:14
Whereas some people I know have I know I had to go out my way to do this. So I can't lie. I'm still like, maybe, I'll meet you for friend. Alex always says that I'm not some kind of fucking stuck up man. That's from the 60s or something. When I when people say about swingers and, you know, and he's like, well, people just enjoy themselves, you know, like, over it, I don't know.
00:45:40:20 – 00:46:02:08
Yeah, that's fine. That's absolutely fine. But I could never go watch some geezer fucking over my missus links, you know what I mean? No, no, no, I'd kill myself. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've even the thought of it makes me want to kill must. Yeah. Okay. Not kill her. That's not me. Yeah, and and I kill, Kill him.
00:46:02:10 – 00:46:21:00
No, no, I couldn't I couldn't do that. I'm not. But I'm not. Understand? Like, some people enjoy polygamy, and that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool I yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Sometimes just, I think maybe we should do an episode on swingers. Yes, yes, I should do that. But I just think there's one that's more into it than I was.
00:46:21:00 – 00:46:50:01
And it always just destroys relationships. But. Yeah. Like what? Stephen. Okay. What's he doing there? Well, I deny like, he's. I deny he is, you know, what can he do I don't I, I like to speak about space. Well, I like I know I understand that you can be in that body and still have sexual urges.
00:46:50:03 – 00:47:23:22
Can you though, get it up? I thought I thought he could have got it up. That ChatGPT here. I want I need to know. I need to know what you want. Yeah, yeah. You want me to type in? Well, well, I just what? I mean by that, I mean, I searched what was Jeffrey Epstein accused of and then come back with an error message saying this content might violate an all usage policies and then with a read, didn't answer it.
00:47:23:24 – 00:47:45:03
So this is ChatGPT. So it hit me sometimes, when I did, when I was asking for questions on the fashion topic and I put, picture in to do the little, AI characters again. And, I said about like, all the, where skinny jeans where Fred Perry and all that, for this, for this image.
00:47:45:05 – 00:48:01:03
And they said, oh, this goes against our policy, blah, blah, blah. I was like, what are you fucking talking about? Prov put me in skinny jeans now does it? Was it Fred Perry? Why do you, Fred Perry, come up with a flag? Is he, you know.
00:48:01:05 – 00:48:23:24
What you mean to ask is, would Stephen Hawking be able to get an erection? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, a lot a lot of these people that I think that they, I think the. So reading about Epstein, that he was, he was like a, an English and physics teacher to begin with and who he like.
00:48:24:01 – 00:48:47:16
Epstein. Right. And he, he got that job. He he wasn't even a qualified teacher when he got a job. And then after when he was teaching at the school, I think he got sacked. But he was then introduced to, some people that worked on, the stock market. And he then went to work for a company, learned about stocks and shares and getting into that world.
00:48:47:16 – 00:49:13:02
And then he moved up, and then he created his own company and stuff. But and then he became this multi-millionaire that we all know of today. But apparently he wasn't actually, you know, that great with money and assets and all this stuff and this, you know, with of a financier what I think is, he used to have these parties and purposely brought, shipped in underage girls in that so he could entrap loads of people.
00:49:13:02 – 00:49:37:20
All the important people, and be like, oh, okay, Trump. He came round, which is why he might get information. Yeah, exactly. So he's just blackmailing those people or maybe not blackmailing, but just saying like, no, I know, you know, you know, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But do the deal. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah. They sure. But, what did they do?
00:49:37:21 – 00:49:58:16
Just take all the computers and take all of the CDs and whatever you had, and and they just took everything from the island, I think. So, yeah. There's like a lot nicer photos and stuff. Yeah. I was like, I'm still looking at these, these this all the stuff that is, has been published. Yeah. And anything that's remotely sort of sensitive has been, is redacted and only pictures.
00:49:58:16 – 00:50:26:09
Yeah. Exist. I think by the looks of it, there's a lot of ways they weren't like that. Yeah. There's that there's a few arguments as well. They have redacted photos and names because they, names of victims. Really? Yeah. Yeah, that could be that. Right. So that's absolutely fine. But there are emails that when names have been redacted and it's like, then these are horrible conversations that are happening.
00:50:26:11 – 00:50:47:16
So why have you blurred out their names. Like they're not part of the victims. They're part of the the problem. So I think people are fucked off with that as well. I mean what how did they find, how did he, how did they find out. Like how did, when did all explode so that they arrested him.
00:50:47:16 – 00:51:08:02
And like who launched that investigation? Do you know? Right. When did it start this investigation into, I don't know when it started, but it was, you know, obviously run by the FBI. He was, he was on his private plane coming back from Paris and he touched down in new Jersey and, like, 20 officers boarded the plane, arrested him.
00:51:08:04 – 00:51:32:16
And while that was happening, they ransacked the, his island and his other homes. He's got fucking homes everywhere and stuff. But this must have been going on for God knows how long. And everyone in the industry, must have must have known. There's a website here, and the Fair Observer. Okay, so it's in its timeline. It's a 2005, a 14 year old girl, when her parents report that Jeffrey Epstein molester at a mansion in Palm Beach.
00:51:32:18 – 00:51:59:11
This prompts a police investigation. So that's where it started. 2005, right? 2006. He was charged. Good. Anyway, I'll send you this link is quite interesting actually. It goes all the way up to modern day it. But I mean, like you're you're looking at that night time stuff that he had done, but but people were still going to this high point was still someone made that stupid joke at the beginning.
00:51:59:11 – 00:52:18:22
Like I didn't realize that. I thought people just going to the island, unbeknownst to all the horrors that were going on. But the thing is, I don't think people do know that previous that people say, oh, you know, nonce Island, but they don't really know. You don't really know the history of the guy beforehand. I certainly didn't until I did get into it.
00:52:18:24 – 00:52:41:20
Yeah, I didn't know until it all exploded. But if you're getting on a plane called the Lolita Express, you just think it's is a bit off. Yeah. You think you know what that's that, you know. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I read that book, actually, and, when I went weird, but yeah, when I travel to, work on the underground and I'm reading the book really out on the.
00:52:41:22 – 00:52:56:19
Yeah, I did, I did because, but yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't really kind of I didn't really understand. Yeah. You know, when you just look at classic literature, the top 50. Yeah. Someone said that's listed in the I got the book, I started reading it, and then I found out what it was about, and I was like, oh, God.
00:52:56:19 – 00:53:35:10
I've. I've made, a faux pas here. Haven't I ever said looking at the nonce, for seven in the morning and reading late or no fucking way, they may. God, we couldn't have done this pod right without talking about Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor. An email in the latest tranche of the Epstein files released by the US Department of Justice accuses former Prince Andrew Mountbatten of Windsor of being an accessory to the death of a girl trafficked for sex and torture in the 90s.
00:53:35:12 – 00:54:10:09
The sickening accusations state that the girl was sold as a sex slave. Sorry was sold as a slave for sex and torture, and that the king's brother allegedly tortured her before forcing another individual to murder her. Now, again, these things are in the Epstein files. And it's now if you if you type into Google now, mount a like Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor crouching over a woman.
00:54:10:12 – 00:54:20:18
There's this fight I read. Have you seen it? Yeah, it's creepy mate. It's like, so all this stuff is.
00:54:20:20 – 00:54:42:13
Like, are we saying I don't think we can call it evidence, but it's. I mean, that photo need some fucking supply that I know that. But you know, you know, you don't. It goes without saying now that that, you know, while he this calls for him to face charges in America, he's been stripped of his titles. Yeah.
00:54:42:15 – 00:55:04:21
You know, he can't live in the royal lodges anymore. No, that's a lot of smoke. I think, Sir Keir has also come out and said that if you have any information, regardless of whether you're part of the royal family or not, you should be giving as much information as you know about the Epstein files. And you should go to wherever.
00:55:04:21 – 00:55:29:11
And you should, you know, be giving up this information on that data. Of course you fucking trust him because, you know, he's a dirty little pig. And the last thing before we move on, right? I think we want to talk about, Lord Mandelson. So he is getting a lot of press. So, Manson is a politician and he's been pals with Epstein since 2002.
00:55:29:13 – 00:55:56:01
And backed him when he went to prison. And when he went to prison, like I said, about like when you said a decade before, he was actually, taken to jail about this, this latest stuff, stayed in his Manhattan apartment. And he was trying to broker a meeting between Tony Blair and Epstein. He was putting pressure on Gordon Brown to resign.
00:55:56:03 – 00:56:24:15
The he contacted Epstein about something. Something to do with Brexit and what was happening and all that law. And it was really sensitive information that he went to the financier Epstein when he shouldn't have done, and it breaches loads of regulations, took donations from Epstein. And he's recently resigned from the House of Lords, like Lord Mandelson again, like there were.
00:56:24:15 – 00:56:52:17
So there's photos of him all in Epstein's like the it's just such a sordid there's so many people caught in this web and Musk is in there Steve Bannon, Bill gates, Richard Branson, Sarah Ferguson. Like there's not to say that these people did anything to listen to me now. And I have to say this right. And let's say that these people did anything Musk did not as well.
00:56:52:20 – 00:57:17:05
You could just imagine he would, fucking sue me for something or other. But, yeah, all these people, then their names and many more in the Epstein phones. But what happens now? What what what, like like we were saying that it's not. It's not evidence, is it? It's just you people have said in accounts and emails why such a long time?
00:57:17:05 – 00:57:39:22
It happened where it happened and there will be an appetite, a strong appetite for the powerful people to have this go away. And and like you said, like that thing I read out from the attorney, you know, saying you need witness testimony. And this is testimony of stuff that happened a long, long time ago. So, and then they'd have to.
00:57:39:24 – 00:58:05:15
Yeah, I it is frustrating. They should all be put on trial, but if the cases are likely to fail, then they won't. So. Yeah, just, I mean, Prince Andrew's life will never be the same again, right? So there's punishment in that. He should be in prison, but there's punishment in that. Trump's been reelected despite storming the Capitol riot.
00:58:05:17 – 00:58:29:17
I don't know, I think we're in such a strange place now in society in this way, the world operates, is that there used to be a time where being accountable and having a good character used to be essential to your standing in society, and now it doesn't seem to matter, right? Yeah. What people are passionate about are, the things that divide us.
00:58:29:19 – 00:58:59:22
Unless about decency. You know, why did Trump care about it? Because it you know, he was anti-establishment. He wanted to deal with the immigration problem. But what you think the major issue for most of these people that are likely to vote Trump is like losing their jobs to immigrants or place or in England, like, why the reform might get in is because people are obsessed by immigration and, and all this sort of stuff.
00:58:59:22 – 00:59:14:17
And so that becomes more important than the horrendous things that these individuals may or may not have done. So, you know, when Trump goes for his next election, if he makes it.
00:59:14:19 – 00:59:37:17
They probably get voted in again. Yeah. So what does it tell you about us? Yeah. No, I can't remember who said this quote, I'm fucking terrible about this. But it was something to do about journalism. And journalism used to be like getting your news story out with the most credible sources. And that's what you were proud of. It was like writing the stories out.
00:59:37:17 – 01:00:07:24
And I've got two sources and everyone was like, fucking great, brilliant. And now who's this? The speed of, information. Just getting your story out first, whether it's right. Wright. It's about being first. Exactly who you said that quote, I don't know. Okay. But anyway. But this is what I feel like, with this, like, exactly what you were saying about the times that we live in Trump, Musk, whoever it is.
01:00:08:01 – 01:00:38:01
Who is it? Ted white. Okay. Can come out and say anything they fucking want. And no matter how untrue it is, there is no accountability. There is no repercussions. There's no nothing. He can come out and say, oh, we've cured fucking cancer. And people be like, what is that? You haven't? Oh, right. Okay. I was just going about our day, the amount of work that he did in creating this narrative about fake news.
01:00:38:03 – 01:00:59:10
Do you remember him doing that? Yeah. Yeah. Great. Mistrust in traditional news outlets, which is probably fair to some degree. But it there's only stuff that was against him that was fake news. Right? That's fake news. That's fake. You remember even sound like very good. Yeah. That, and the problem is, is we live in this age of misinformation and bullshit, right?
01:00:59:11 – 01:01:34:02
I believe the AI revolution means that the. It's not about how good you are at doing something. It's about how well you can prompt a computer program to create something or, Twitter. The amount of shit and bullshit based on Twitter. Yeah. You know, a case in point that was, me. There was a rumor Spurs that there was a spreadsheet that was created by our manager, Thomas Frank, and Langer, who is the sporting director, was so moved by it that he was brought to tears.
01:01:34:02 – 01:01:53:07
Right. Because we I didn't know wasn't I didn't sound right. We talked about this on podcasts. This doesn't sound right, but we think it might be true. It was all based on one tweet by a funny tweet that someone made, which is obviously ridiculous now. But there was a part of me, I did that happen, and it happened, and I repeat it.
01:01:53:07 – 01:02:11:21
Then that spreads. Now. There's never been a worse stage in that. So I think in that tweet as well, they said they put the source and they added The Athletic, the official athletic account. Sounds like they sourced it. Yeah, yeah. Thanks Allen. Yeah. So they can do that. That's that is a lighthearted way example. Anybody can do it.
01:02:11:23 – 01:02:26:14
Yeah. It's fucking. And you think about in the WhatsApp groups and people are sharing stuff like rumors and stuff as if they're true and everyone gets angry. Yeah. And you're like, well, it might not even be true. Like, how did this person come about this information?
01:02:26:16 – 01:02:47:22
Yeah, it's a fucking mess. And it God is a mess. Yeah. They're fucking God, right? We are great. We have a we got a dilemma. Actually. This week, which is, I mean, it's good for us in the podcast, but it's maybe not so good for the person that sent it. And. And then we also have a something only you know, which is called Bottle of Betrayal.
01:02:47:24 – 01:03:10:04
Next week we're going to do fashion. I won't go into it, but basically what we used to wear from our teens, 20s, 30, 40 years and how we feel about fashion. Now, you've just heard about me talking about jeans and what I think about it. What I do want to say is I want to see your, fashion kind of disasters.
01:03:10:06 – 01:03:30:24
If you want to feature on our Instagram at lads anon, Paul's sending some photos of you as a youngster in some mad gear. Send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com or any fashion stories that you have, or the way that you feel about clothes at the moment. Send it all in a fucking read it out. All right.
01:03:31:01 – 01:04:10:21
And now we are going to go into dilemma. The night hazy light. So I'll just tell you, you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad cause penguin taste you aching in your soul. Alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friends, you deserve this place like you're safe to get nice and warm between Vicky and then.
01:04:10:23 – 01:04:39:10
I have a girlfriend, and I have had one for about two years now. In the last six months, we've been having some quite serious arguments, and they've been happening more and more frequently as I'm dating this girl. I've met a new girl at my local gym who seems very nice, and she is very pretty. I am now texting this new girl lightly, and we seem to be getting on well with each other.
01:04:39:12 – 01:05:02:12
Do I break up with my current girlfriend and slowly get to know the new girl? Or do I stay and ride it out? I really don't know what to do, lad. It's a bit of a sticky one. I love the pod. I listen to it every week and it's really helping. As a distraction from my current mental health issues.
01:05:02:14 – 01:05:30:13
Oh, thank you for, I mean, thank you for listening. We'll try not to your dilemma. So get bros. Yeah get bro. First of all, bro, are you ready? It clear your head. Clear your minds. Focus. And, I'm all out of it. And that, I think, look, during a relationship and imagine you're younger than me.
01:05:30:15 – 01:05:58:23
But in my younger years, I was in a relationship for to 14 years, from 18 to 32, which I wouldn't advise, but, that's what it was. And there were parts of it there. I was happy, and there are parts of it where I wasn't. And during that time, there were many opportunities where I had interests or a felt about to feel about other women.
01:05:59:00 – 01:06:24:08
That I wanted to leave and pursue these opportunities. I never did, in fact, I never cheated on her, not once. There was an open relationship towards the end, so there was plenty going on then. But there was I never I never did it. But there were definitely times where I wanted to 100%. I really wanted to.
01:06:24:10 – 01:06:44:05
And that that was, that's part of being in a relationship. I don't know what happened to change when I met my wife. Well, my wife now is well, I don't even I genuinely don't even see other women in that way. I don't look at another woman go, she's attractive. I don't feel anything. I it's a weird one.
01:06:44:07 – 01:07:00:11
I don't know why that. And it's normal. If you've been in a relationship to find other people attractive, it's more I think it's more abnormal the way I am than I'm just not interested in anybody else other than my wife. And I don't want to do anything that would ever or think about anything that would ever jeopardize what I've got.
01:07:00:13 – 01:07:44:08
Yeah, 100%. So and I think about what I was like to what I am now, and it's like a different person. I couldn't think of anything better when I was, you know, 32 something of that, that just going out, getting lashed. Yeah. Taking a bird. I'm. Yeah. But now my point is, mate, it's always been a temptation. And you've got to decide whether or not the temptation, the fact that this girl is coming along, may have highlighted some things that you already knew about your relationship, and you may not want to be in that anymore.
01:07:44:08 – 01:08:04:16
However, it's easy in that moment when you're talking to another girl to forget about what the relationship means to you. Yes. So the only advice I can give you is you have to go through the process not of cheating. You have to go through the process of writing this out and getting to the other stage with this other girl you know isn't around as much, or you're not engaging with her.
01:08:04:16 – 01:08:25:10
The fact you're talking to her is a big problem, because that could easily blow up, but it might be that you want it to. You might want to pursue this other girl. Yeah. And in which case, if you're going to choose to do that, then the only fair thing to do is to break up, because you don't want to hurt someone in that way, because you could sure build massive trust issues and whatnot.
01:08:25:12 – 01:08:47:23
Yeah. I mean, a lot of people, when you are going for it, the grass, you feel like the grass is always greener no matter what you are, whether you are, whether it's a relationship or your job is shit and someone offers you a new job and you think, oh yeah, the grass is greener, I'll go and do that without kind of taking stock of what actually is the issue and if you can resolve it.
01:08:48:00 – 01:09:13:24
So you've got this, you know, your partner, it's been going well, but in the last six months it's really kind of, taken a downturn. And that doesn't mean to say that the relationship that you get with the new person, it means that the there is an issue that is unresolved. And what I would suggest is just being honest with your partner and saying, look, things aren't really working at the moment.
01:09:14:01 – 01:09:40:14
What are we doing to do? We want to continue to, to be with each other. Do we want to see this relationship now and or do you know, is it because we don't go on enough date nights, or is it because I work too often, whatever it might be, and have a good grown up conversation, chat about it and then if after that you kind of decide, let's go our separate ways, then I wouldn't say crack on with this new person, but just take it easy, man.
01:09:40:16 – 01:10:06:00
But there was the, the issue at hand with your current partner and do not go down this route or route of texting this other, lady and being a bit flirty because that will snowball very, very quickly. So, yeah, go and have a chat to your current misses. See where the land lies, see if it's something that you want to continue with.
01:10:06:02 – 01:10:36:12
And if you can work out. I hope that helps, mate. Yeah, right. Okay. The next bit, something I do, you know, shit. Just do it. Just do it. Me math something I you a. Bottle of betrayal. Hey, lads. You guys are absolute legends. Oh, thank you very much. I hope you know how much joy and entertainment you bring to the world.
01:10:36:14 – 01:11:02:08
The fighting cock to this gem of a podcast. You're very much appreciated. And not sure if I listen to anyone's words more than Ricky and Flav in this weird parasocial relationship. Never stop. That is wonderful. Thank you again. Off. I've never told this story before, but it feels like it's time. I was in my early 20s backpacking around Eastern Europe by myself.
01:11:02:10 – 01:11:29:01
A cousin back in London managed DJs for a living, and asked if I wanted to hit any festivals on my travels. I said sure, and he recommended a dubstep festival in Pula, Croatia. He sent me the contact of one of the DJs playing, so I had someone I could party with. What a shitty little town, and headed out for a three day festival.
01:11:29:03 – 01:11:54:19
The first night I overdid it, I met this Matty J who wasn't playing until the second night, and we got obliterated on the beach starting line of 50 plus people sharing nitrous balloons, unknown pills, and military levels of drinking. I woke up the next day barely alive, and I smelled like a sailor's nutsack after a transatlantic voyage. So I stumbled my way to the showers to try and revive myself.
01:11:54:21 – 01:12:22:12
I didn't have any shampoo or soap, but Similac. Someone had left a bottle of shampoo in the shower still, so I decided to use that. I was so hung over that I grabbed the bottle and squeezed it as hard as I could, but it was really taking its time to come out. I got a small beer out to wash my hair, but it wasn't enough, so I grabbed it and squeezed it harder.
01:12:22:14 – 01:12:48:23
A bit more came out, followed by what seems like a bit of latex, which seemed very odd. The bottle didn't seem empty, so I screwed up the top, and what I discovered still haunts me to this day. Some absolute fuckwit had taken had taken a used condom full of semen and attached it to the inside of the bottle of the shampoo.
01:12:49:00 – 01:13:12:00
So I just rubbed some random man's disgusting little swimmers all over my head. In a moment of shock and horror, I threw the ball to the ground and tried desperately to rub the man's milk out of my hair while gagging and nearly vomiting all over the shower floor. I left the tent. I just got back. Back on the last to try and drown out that memory.
01:13:12:02 – 01:13:47:14
To this day, I still think about that asshole sometimes, and when I'm washing my hair in the shower and that is something only I know. That is fucking great. He's out of their way to do that. I'd never understand. Fucking like, God, it is. What the, PTSD is. Well, but you just need to shower at home and you go to, you know, you go through the same motion of this statement you face, you got your eyes closed, the shampoos got no with his words, you just leave it in there and just, like, go on with your life and forget about this mental to me.
01:13:47:16 – 01:14:17:04
Why anyone would do that? Right. It's fucking grim. Thank you for sending that in. Something none of you, you know, send more in if you have any dilemmas. Or add another thing, send it in to lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. The topic for next week is fashion. Patrons. You'll get this Friday the video and the audio ad free.
01:14:17:04 – 01:14:32:11
Enjoy it all up while the normies get this on Monday. I hope you have another lovely week. I'll see you later. Goodbye! God bless. But.
01:14:32:13 – 01:14:34:02
Oh, shit. I'm fucking.
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