#145 | WWE and Wrestling | From Sofas to Suplexes

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Big one. We I was, just asked Tao a question because he's got Cal Collector wrestling belt, so let's not judge him. Do you know, watch the. We've done a few podcasts about wrestling. Me and you, Cal. First time in Latin. None of us, obviously. People seem to be really supportive of his love of wrestling.

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Rise. I think it's the most dorky thing about him. People are really like, oh, no, actually, quite like the wrestling content. I think that's like the secret wrestling fans out wrestling fans out there anyway. But there was this, hey, How? Held up a wrestling belt, a champ, a wrestling belt, right? What what what was the wrestler Belko.

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It's it's a replica of the world title. Is the show that exists in circulation now. The wrestler. No, it does not exist anymore. It is not in circulation in any wrestling company nowadays. Okay, it's out of circulation. I don't get out. Okay. So. So so I was like, are you all year? Do you have any replica boxing belts?

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Because that would make more sense. Because it's real. And then how you said boxing. Boxing. But, I said, I know this is going to sound ridiculous, but I feel like a bit of a fraud if I don't go. I guess it makes sense because it's real, right? You have to earn that because boxing's real people actually have to fight each other and beat each other up and win it, whereas wrestling belts we're going to get into this as we go.

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Is decided by the booker or the guy that's in charge and says, you're going to win tonight, triple H or whatever. So because it's not real wrestling, sadly, I feel less of a fraud to own five wrestling bouts. How long did you say you own five replica wrestling belts? Yeah, so three of them are like, yeah.

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Covid was bad. I know, I know, that money.

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Cow. It's like, yeah, you just jump out and jump. Hennigan son of a bitch.

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What cow. What do you have a picture of Michael Jackson on yet okay. Everything I do, everything I do is for the lows. Right? Everything. It's just such a funny picture. It just cracks me up of, like, old white Michael Jackson biting his lip. It just cracks me up. Me and Kyle play a game called Art Raiders together, and you know his name is on that cow.

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Chi-Chi. Jackie. No cow kite. So good. Well, well, we've been saying this name. Obviously, you've you can hear that. We have a guest with us today. We got cow. So cow. Obviously fighting cock. You'll know him from there. But below the belt is well below the belt. Podcast. How long have you been doing below the belt for ten years.

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In February it was fuck. Really good. Only 600? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. We get about gain about six listeners a year and pretty gave up six. Now. I like I like this one I like I like boxing right. Yeah. It's just boxing is actually this I recorded recorded last night actually. And it's WrestleMania weekend as you know. And we did spend the first like two free minutes talking about WrestleMania.

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But yeah, no, it's a box. Purely a boxing podcast. And flap is always good enough to join me on a Sunday morning. And I'd love to after a big boxing card. Yeah it's great. Yeah, mad anxiety, a bit pain on it though, because people there are people listen to as you really know about boxing. Whereas I would be what people consider probably a casual, maybe not a casual, maybe slightly better than a casual boxing fan.

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But yeah, for people that I learned, like the ones that talk to Cal regularly, these, these guys know boxing. They'll be yeah, yeah. They just know it. Right. And I'm always like, oh God, I don't know that. I don't know what they know that. So is it it's I find it quiet anxiety in Boston hangover on a Sunday morning as well.

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But I quite I love talking about it. Big British bouts. That's what I like is my thing. The thing is though, like we've, it's it's always good when you listen to these things to have a mix of, of people and the vast majority of people that are listening are like armchair fans, like casuals. So it's like it's good to have the technical bit from when you're listening to it, but you don't want all the technical, because you just get this bit, where would you please speak?

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How casual? I wouldn't place you as a casual no, no. No time. No, not at all. Because, you know, stuff. You just out yourself. That's all it is. Is that you know, you're talking about. But you just. You'll get the imposter syndrome and doubt yourself and then hesitate, which I do. I do exactly the same thing. And but that's kind of the balance I tried to find on the pod is if it's a, a fight, the, you know, like the weekend Tyson Fury against, mood of which is on Netflix is perfect for that because he doesn't know everything.

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He doesn't pretend to know everything, and neither do I. Whereas if we're talking about, now you're new way boxing in Japan, I'll get one of the journalists on because they fucking know everything they know about all the super flyweight. It's all the bantamweight. They know about everything, and they know much more than me. And I can just host.

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So it's just about finding that balance. Nice. So if you want to get it, well, if you want to check out below the belt, on Twitter, it's at below the belt underscore. And on Instagram it's just at below the belt pod. So go and follow KAOS, accounts and the podcast as well, if you're on there quite often as well, when you're well below the belt.

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Yeah. Well, yeah, it's just we, we just talked about it. Yeah, I know, but it's not like, you you hadn't heard that, but it was no like a couple you you've been on you're on it quite often. Yeah. As a yes I was on I was on episode one block. Where are you back. Yeah it was. Yeah.

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I mean, it's supposed to be like a kind of joint venture, but we also gave up on council to powering through, basically. But. Yeah, I was checking out the socials. Your, your face is still on the header. Those are funny. Those they are? Yeah.

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Right, lads? Do you know what we're talking about tonight? Wrestling. Yes. Good. Let's fucking go, Joe. Surprising. Actually. Yeah. Go on then. Yeah. Let's play jingle. Yeah. Gone, gone. Do that first. Get a move. On them night. Hazy like Band of brothers. Playing tunes high as quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways.

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Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside, we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers got my big fat pig with me today in the office. Monkey Bay I was, you know when you your mind immediately goes to do a joke and you're like Ricky, just.

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Or you said you want, what's your wife do in there with my mum? So it would would have been. Which one? Your mum. Not your fucking wife. Jesus Christ, I would say that's fucking low, man. You can't do that. Can't be. Got wives and anything. You can't. Yeah. You and something so horrible ways. Well that really spiteful. I've put my big fat pig.

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So the pig, my. Yeah, yeah I not you harsh man. Why the wives are should be off limits. Typically I'm not. So you can say much about wives. Well I the I mean they should be my mum is a fair game obviously, but yeah. Not nothing about wives. I, when I was writing and writing the running order for this, and I was like, first of all, obviously I've, I've wanted to cover wrestling for a while and then obviously WrestleMania.

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And I was like, this is the perfect time. And when I was thinking about it, it's always quite funny to me about how it's fake and isn't it funny you're going to watch men and wrestle and blah blah, blah. But then when I was writing out the kind of running order for it and thinking like I was, I was like, cry, oh, okay.

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My favorite wrestlers early, earliest memories or whatever like that. And genuinely, I like batted off 30 wrestlers off the top of my head. Just machine gun them out somehow. Like it's so deep, ingrained going as a kid. Machine guns. I'm just like, machine got some out now. Big boss man, right? You're hit man. Hulk Hogan, ultimate warrior earthquake.

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Typhoon. Rick the model. Martel. Yeah. Razor Ramone. Fucking Legion of doom. Bushwhackers. Dustin I can't I can't keep going, can you? Did he can keep good. He can. Good. Bret. Hitman. Oh. In hot anvil. Yeah. Yeah. Virgil. Yeah. Ted DiBiase. Yeah. Million dollar man. Fuck it. There's just so many.

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You don't really realize the Ric Flair it sounds like John Cena that that it, that's that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Then I was yeah. Going into new, you know, the rock stone cold Kane, 25 years. Rick. It's not. Well, I mean, not to me, but that's the thing. Like it goes to new era, like the old.

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When I grew up. Is it Brutus the Barber Beefcake? Yes. He's a he was a wrestler. Right. Okay. Right. Yeah. Macho man Marty Jannetty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The rock. It's part of the Rock. It's only the rockers. The rock, of course. Shawn Michaels, my Johnny. Yeah, he was the general, I mean, much it wasn't a degenerate drug treat wife beater.

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Was he good? There's lots of those in wrestling. I think we should talk about those. The biggest degenerates. Chris Benoit, number one. I remember I was up there. Yeah. He's absolutely. Yeah. Well, why is he number one? Because he killed his family with dumbbells. Yeah. That is yeah. He he has the guy number one I always think I always think as well.

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Like because they, they found an empty bottle of wine and it was like the is it the wine? It seems such a timid thing to tip him over the edge. Should a empty bottle of vodka tip them over the edge? Yeah. We found a few empty glasses of wine. Or maybe it was, you know, the thousands of head injuries he took in the ring that led him to.

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To probably do it. If that is the case, let me just get into. Let's get into the weeds here. Right. If that is the case, at what point do you go? Well, it's not his fault. It shouldn't. We get dumbbell de family, right. Understand that. Take that on board. But his brain wasn't working properly. Why did he do it?

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I it's c it's CTE. What do you want to say? Why did he do it. What do you want to say? Co bananas, crispy pancakes.

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I didn't think he's going to say that. But I didn't know what you wanted for me to. But would you press. He had c a brain machine. He had massive brain injury C it was it called CTE. So concussion syndrome is where you get it's where you get concussion after concussion so you don't let you. Obviously a concussion is when your brain is kind of rattling around in your head.

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And then it takes time for you to recover from that. But wrestlers back in those days in the 90s would wrestle 300 days a year, right? So they would get a concussion and then wrestle the next night and get another fucking concussion. And so what happens is your brain just starts to I'm not an expert in this, but but let me also just degenerate.

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Let me read it out because this is interesting. So if CTE causes aggression primarily through the accumulation of abnormal tau proteins, which the brain destroys brain tissue specifically in the frontal lobe and the amygdala, amygdala, this damage impairs impulse control, decision making and emotional regulation, leading to personality changes, rage and explosive outbursts, particularly in early stages of the disease.

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So I'm not saying that's the excuse, but I'm going to say sounds like you're clearing and move. Yeah, I think I would point like so hang on a second. I know that the Tourette's guy shout at the N word is that. Yeah. Is that is for is he a racist? Is he a racist? No, that is not a racist.

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No. Come on LP Kenny. No, no. Right. So watch it. So what are you saying about it wasn't. Oh, you don't think they got the Ben Morris Ben Rhodes CTE, right. Okay. So so is is the damage the proper model because he was banned. He was part of the wrestling federation. He was banned by everybody. He was like saying with this guy man is disgusting.

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This man is look what he's done. Yeah. He committed a disgusting act because of the damage you received in the ring that you're now saying you should never have been in. Sorry. We have to cut out your running water completely. Yeah, I know that, like, the first thing is, what are your early memories of. Actually, you've just gone straight into fucking murder.

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All the family, the dumbbells.

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Sorry. Know it started off with a positive. No, no. Let's go to murder dumbbells. Now, let's get this out of the way. This actually scratching. Oh, I, I absolutely love talking about wrestling, I should say. Yeah, I know, so I would have to talk about earliest memories. If you want to. No, no, no. Let's go.

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Let's, Let's start. Let's start at the beginning. Earliest memories. Gag cow. You're the guest. You tell us. How did you show my. I have four brothers. And it was just one of those things. It was on a on a Saturday morning. I think we had Sky back then. I think we think it was on Sky one or Sky sports.

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Remember this one? Back, back. Yeah, on Sky sports as well. And it was just on, it was on, on a Saturday morning wasn't it. I think it was called WWF superstars. Was that was the name of the show on. And it would normally be what, what they call squash. Squash matches where it's earthquake against some random guy and he'll just beat the shit out of them and beat them in 45 seconds.

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All right, let's pause. Pause. Sorry. Squash matches. Squash. Squash. So a squash match is one guy beat another guy really quickly? Yeah. Yeah, he's full time in the show, because sometimes you do that and you got, ego earthquake. And here comes Buster. Bill. He can't even aside from a tough area from Tennessee. Yeah. And then you never see him again.

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You might see. You might see at some stage when they find these guys that. Yeah, they're just they're generally guys from like the independent circuit. So they're you've got the big you've got. So we've got a generally we talk about non-news wrestling I imagine. So you've got WCW and these days you go I forget that. But underneath that all around America is these little independent ones.

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Tennessee Championship Wrestling and stuff like that. Right. So they all exist all over, all over, all over the country. There's little shows happening in little barns and high school gyms and all sorts of shit that's happening everywhere. So the WWF will just plonk, you know, whatever you like from they know how to take a fall, right? They know how to work with the main wrestlers so they don't get hurt.

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You can't just pick someone out of the audience. You need to at least have some ring general manship. Yeah, they call it they. They know how to bump so they know how to land. If they get thrown, if they get body slam, they know how to take it. They know how to land this is a skill. It's very much a skill.

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I know people watching go, well, that's a bit silly. Why is that guy being thrown to the ropes and then voluntarily running back again? Yes, it is. Yes it yes, that's what. It's told you. Why are you running straight back? Okay. When you hit the rope, just stay there. Oh, no. It's all about no run back and then Ric Flair will lean over and they will voluntarily be flipped over, over shoulder and land on the back.

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My favorite is when they put the victory close. Clothesline the knee deep below the that they ducked the clothesline, then rebound and then continue to run back. And they a clothesline again I love that that's my favorite yeah I think I think that's it with wrestling it's it's like things that you watch on the TV. I always kind of compare it to like Game of Thrones or Avengers or stuff they watch on the TV.

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That's clearly not real. But you don't sit there watching Game of Thrones going home. He's not really a fucking knight. He's not really a king. Or like, it's a fucking TV show. And I think you have to view wrestling through that sphere of it makes sense in that world for him to run back from the ropes, even though it doesn't make logical sense.

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I never saw him. I never thought about that today. It's funny, once you break it down and think about what I need to stop the war. But why is he carried on day or night? But it would be weird if he did stop. If you're watching it now that you know and you've watched wrestling for two years, and then that has always been a main theme, that if he did stop, you'd be like, that's weird.

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Yeah. Even though it's the most. Yeah. You know, the sensible thing to do, you kind of do buy into it. My problem I mentioned is before you count, but you said, in terms about, you know, if you approach it with the right mindset and realize it's a set pieces, a soap opera with a ring in the middle, which I appreciate, then you can enjoy it a lot more.

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But it's weird to me how.

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Production companies or broadcasters that they talk about it as if it's real, if the results mean something, if you just go on the Sky sports app, you used to have a wrestling button next to box in tennis, javelin or whatever it might be. And then there's like wrestling and they might match reports like they would a boxing match is that to me was like fucking mental.

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It lives in the Swedes can make their own wrestling. Yes. Whoa. Yeah. How you can bet on the Royal Rumble when I'm certain you can. I don't know about this weekend. I don't know where my phone is. I don't know if there's betting markets on, you know, be an CM punk this weekend. You have a pre you have a predefined winner.

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Everybody know. Does everyone know who's going to win. Not everybody. Only triple H knows really in the people part of his committee, part of his booking committee. They call it the people that sit around a table and decide where storylines go, being and who's going to win the title at WrestleMania. That's a committee that kind of decides that.

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But triple H is generally the overall guy, says CM punk is going to beat Roman Reigns this weekend, for example. So it's kind of decided by that. But when you think about it, when there's been like whodunits on soap operas, there's been bear markets on that. What about they shot Gail? Who shot? Yeah. I that, you know, I don't know.

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There was a shooting. Did Phil Mitchell get shot in EastEnders? I don't watch soaps. What about who who killed, in The Simpsons when he was J.R.? Like, who shot J.R.? Oh, yeah, I remember that as a kid. Yeah, yeah. Look, now, see, I don't have to be on that book yet. So what is the book? Sorry, Rick.

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I feel like I'm asking too many questions and. No, no, no, this is this is exactly what we're here for, right? Okay. If this booking team. I'd love to be on that. So they're the ones that sort of arrange who are they? So they go right. This weekend CM punk is going to beat, you know, whoever it might be.

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And and this is the reason why and this is how the storyline is going to be built. And they build up storylines for each people. Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah. I would be on their guide. Should we? Let's bring back Bam Bam Bigelow. Like what I think we should bring back. He's been dead. Been dead 25 years.

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All right, I got an idea. So is it like a right for him? Like right? It's right. It's sort of. You know, what I would say to you, I think have watched it, but on Netflix, there's a show called WWE unreal May. And it goes. This is so good. This. So this is the one we've triple H in it and they show you behind the scenes.

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Ricky, if you haven't watched this, it's honestly I would say I'm not hands down one of the most enjoyable mini series I have ever watched. And what's it called? WWE unreal. It's on Netflix. Ricky you it's from from for people like us who enjoyed wrestling in the 80s. Yeah, yeah. To the point to the modern day with how it all operates.

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It is fucking brilliant, this documentary. I didn't anticipate anything from it at all. I was just hoping that they were never going to get to the Vince McMahon controversies, because up until that point, it's like feel good shit you'll ever see. It's like, oh my God, that was my to keep doing this bit, we talked about the same thing you're talking about different show.

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Oh, what was that? You're talking about the Vince McMahon. I think it was just called Mr. McMahon and it was on ABC. It was honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fucking unbelievable because like you said, you there's bits where he's being the Mr. McMahon character and he's being this ultra misogynistic the way he would treat his Stratos on TV.

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Right? He would make her like, do sexual stuff and kiss him and make out of. And he was like a 60 year old man he was making out with like Trish Stratus and but you weren't and you're and you're laughing. I was laughing watching it, watching the documentary. I was cracking up. But then you you're right. That was right.

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I think it's a I think it's five episodes. And I think you get to episode five and it's about all the real life nasty shit they dumped. But. And it stops being funny. It's not. It's a bit bad because I didn't want it. I didn't want to hear any of that. I just wanted to keep doing the wrestling bit.

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That's that was great. But the almost a point of it was about him, but I don't know, it was I can't remember there was there some sort of there was some. There's only so much he could have said or something like that. I don't know what will happen there. You got a lot of access anyway, the first four episodes that Ricky is, it's unreal.

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I started watching it for, research for today's podcast, and. And my missus was sat next to me. Yeah. And I was like you, you said, you've got to go upstairs and do the thing on the laptop. She's like, this is so good. She's like, I can't believe how good this is. And we just sat there watching it and I was like, this is fucking brilliant.

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It's so good. It's all like a childhood just watching it. And I was like, I just couldn't believe, some of the stuff they were saying. And like when you were saying about, like, the matches, right? Is it decided, like you saying the committee, the writers room and stuff? Is that decided there and then, or is is it like the wrestlers, the Rock and Stone cold?

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What do these kind of choreography know what they're going to do? But no one knows the final result. And then on fight night, Vince will walk in and be like rock. At this point, what you've mapped out, you're just going to go straight into the fucking whatever The Rock's finishing move was. Yeah. And then you're going to win it.

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People's elbow back. Yeah. Yeah, I that night, what was the one where he went? Oh, rock bottom robot. Rock. One of my favorite man of. This this is it's all fresh because I was watching Hulk Hogan against the rock class yesterday when Ricky asked me to do this part. It's like I need some inspiration. So I got all the belts out, and I was a Saturday watching Hulk Hogan Against the Rock, which is for me, is one of the best matches ever.

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It's just unbelievable. Even they they wrestled each other for over. Yeah. So good. WrestleMania 18. Hulk Hogan's in his mid-forties. He hasn't really wrestled in a few years because he was basically running his contract at WCW. He goes to WWE, his first WrestleMania is against the Rock and they just have this fucking unbelievable match. It's so good. But generally a match like that, it something that big that will decide on the day who's going to win.

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It'll be like Rocky, you're going over the expression is going over meaning they win. But I love the terminology. So I'm like, oh, so now I find it at that stuff. What are you with WrestleMania 18 B? Is it? I'm looking at and it's giving me stupid. Like I remember this era, the 2001, 2002. Yeah, because there's a picture of triple H holding up two belts.

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Yeah, that was a big thing because back then again, it's all back. What happens under the belts that you just showed us? Yeah, yeah. He was undisputed champion I think for that night. Back then there was a lot of politics going into that night because a lot of people felt that Hogan and the Rock should have been the main event, because it's Hogan in the Rock, right?

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These two huge stars. And when people talk about that, that, WrestleMania 18, now people see that as the main event Hogan in the Rock, even if it wasn't for the world title, but instead it was, I think it was triple H against Chris Jericho for the undisputed title, and that was the main event. And so that's the picture you see, but no one remembers it.

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People remember Hogan The Rock because it was just a spectacular match and right, everybody had to follow. That. Is it. Is it true the Hogan Hulk Hogan had a bad back because he used to land on his bum constantly when he didn't finish the. Yeah. Yes that's true. Yeah. That his finisher was yeah I can't remember the name, but it wasn't East.

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A swing on the rope and then drop on his leg. That one leg it and it is it called the atomic grip. The chest. Yes, but just electron. Yeah. Either atomic load drop his way, it's called. But yeah, just the big leg or the leg drop. It's all of them really were the worst. The worst finishing move.

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We talking about finishing moves. The worst. The more the worst. Well, I mean, you could do anything. You could do anything. Why? You want to just jump up and down, land on your bum and your leg. That's it. Yeah. And what, what differentiate from like, the atomic leg dropped to a normal leg drop, like what? What are you.

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How high. Right. They've just got to pretend it's more damaging because Hulk Hogan ends the fight with is so stupid. Doesn't make any sense. Makes sense in that world. You have to view it through the sphere. No. In that world, that's. That's the most damaging thing that could happen. Is him dropping that leg. No cow. I understand that, right.

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But they don't have to be that basic. Do something else. So, you know, everyone's got to just believe just because it's me doing it like the worst finisher of all time. It's got to be the people's elbow. Stupid. It doesn't make sense. You run across the wing twice, he stops. Yeah, yeah. So this is all the momentum of running, then stops I think.

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Does he. He takes these. He takes. Yeah. It's the elbow pad off. Yeah. Yeah. And they kick their organs in first when they take your hand over their body kick their arms. And I don't mind all that bit. It's the running and then stopping us I doesn't make any sense to me. Sorry. I remember seeing that as a teenager, because I, we didn't have sky around that time, but my mate had it, and we stay.

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I stayed up at my mates house and watch SummerSlam 98, and it was triple H against the Rock for the Intercontinental title in a ladder match, and I hadn't seen the rocket heard of him, I hadn't seen him, and he he. Towards the end of the match, the ladder is in the middle of the ring. The Rock does the probably the softest body slam you ever see onto the ladder.

00:28:28:11 – 00:28:44:20
And then he took that elbow pad off and did the People's elbow. I thought it was fucking coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. I was like 14 years. I was like, that is unbelievable. That guy was the coolest guy ever. The Rock. He was so cool. Is it that was that the most electrifying move in sports entertainment?

00:28:44:21 – 00:29:07:06
And that's what the elbow. Right. The elbow. Yeah. That's a that's a lie. Yeah. He's a lie. What. Right. I just want to go back. So you said that 14 right. So were you at the age of 14. Were you still did you still believe that wrestling was was real or were you in the know and you still just kind of enjoyed it?

00:29:07:08 – 00:29:27:01
I think it became for me it became more interesting that it was that it was choreographed and predetermined. I think when you're a kid, you just believe that Hulk Hogan is the strongest man and he himeno warrior going to have this amazing match, right? You believe that? It's real. When I did it, and my dad, bless him, would would really feed in cheek.

00:29:27:01 – 00:29:45:23
Oh, those guys are so strong. And they did this thing once. They did this thing one time where the wrestlers had a tug of war with bodybuilders, and my dad was like, yeah, but wrestlers are really strong. They're just all juiced up. They just juiced up, they're all full of water. And the wrestlers won the thing. But then you get to be a teenager and you do think, well, this is a bit why is he running back from the ropes like that?

00:29:45:23 – 00:30:05:24
That's bad. But then but then you you learn that it's fake and then you go, okay, well what goes into that? Like this conversation now you're interested in what goes into it. And that was me at 1314 was like, okay, so what happens then? And then it just became even more became better for me that it was a bit predetermined, more interesting.

00:30:06:01 – 00:30:35:06
You just want to just get out of sync again. I just conscious of Ricky's at it, so I'll, just pop out, pop back in. Please go. Yeah.

00:30:35:08 – 00:30:53:20
That's good, actually, because I can see this breaking the waveforms. I can say that. Yeah, but it's not as good if he doesn't like the reason. It's. Get us, for example, lemons.

00:30:53:22 – 00:31:27:06
What? When I, when I was. So when I was, I can almost So when I was ten, I didn't know wrestling was fake. And I knew this was because one of the most horrifying things and I remember feeling it at the time was when I think it was Undertaker had a match with Ultimate Warrior and, pallbearer and Undertaker put Ultimate Warrior into a coffin, and they sealed the coffin and, he couldn't breathe in it.

00:31:27:12 – 00:31:47:16
And then when they managed to open up, there was like, oh, scratch and rip marks from the inside. They were doing CPR and Ultimate Warrior, and I was like, he's dead. They suffocated and killed him. This is fucking mental. They've taken it too far. It's gone too far, like I thought. And I remember panicking as a kid watching that, thinking, this is insane.

00:31:47:18 – 00:32:05:18
So at ten, I didn't know. I speaking to my daughter yesterday and she's like 14. And I said to, Dana, Dana positive cow tomorrow. And she said, oh, that that's cool. And I said, I'll do in a wrestling one. And she was, oh, that was that makes sense because he is wrestling belt to the top number eight.

00:32:05:20 – 00:32:27:16
The tricky part, right? Yeah. And I was pacing myself. He's like, yeah, yeah he did bring it. That makes complete sense because he did was completely. And then I was saying to it that we're talking about how it's, you know, fake. Now we all play along and stuff. She's like, what? What's up? What? I was like, wrestling is fake.

00:32:27:18 – 00:32:56:04
She has it. It she had no idea. Riva 17 for in oh eight Jesus Christ you. Yeah, I know the, flabby as well. Like you like Kyle said about his brothers growing up. You've got fucking 400 brothers. Yeah. Where they were they all into wrestling? Oh, like. No. Not really. When? When? One of my earliest memories of wrestling is doing the sticker books in the.

00:32:56:06 – 00:33:30:04
We love the sticker books. Yeah. And we would draw the the logos. We draw Big Boss Man's logo. It was like a badge. It was like a sheriff bag, a badge, if I remember rightly. And this, but this sticker book that we got and we completed it would be I still remember I'd love to see another copy now, but I think I had the Bret the Hitman Hart was the champion at the time, but they would have a section of six stickers where you had to collect each one, and you'd get them as the individual mosaic of the picture.

00:33:30:04 – 00:33:50:13
Then you, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, I remember and then and then the and the each one would have a shiny. So it would be like a Bret Hitman Hart logo and a shiny. So we were like obsessed with that sticker book. And so we would watch it a little bit. But not we'd never sort of I once did a razor's edge on Joe and I fought.

00:33:50:13 – 00:33:55:03
I broke his neck.

00:33:55:05 – 00:34:11:21
So I was up because the I would say we never really play for wrestling. But I remember doing that because Joe was young and I just picked him up and and just the razor's edge. For people that don't know, this is a finishing move that makes complete sense, right? I fucking and great finishing move with the leg drop.

00:34:11:21 – 00:34:34:14
It just feels a bit silly. This is they lift the wrestler up, go back to the back to back. I imagine you've gone back to back with someone and you grabbed the person behind your back, underneath his armpits and you lift them up and it looks like the Christ put on the crucifix again. Yeah. And then they lifts him up in the air, and then he lean forward and they come down to the back of their head on their neck or their shoulders.

00:34:34:18 – 00:34:50:06
I think they probably land on their shoulders, I think. And that's why you don't practice this shit at home. Kids is the. I didn't land Joe on his shoulders. I landed him on the back of his neck. I could have fucking paralyzed him. Joe, just say you're right. You're right. Joe. Joe. You're right, you're right. I'm a god.

00:34:50:06 – 00:35:10:10
No. You're crying. Stop crying. Joe crying. I gave him the razor's edge. Yeah. Not really. Wasn't big in the household. I. What I watched the reason why I watched. So my cousin Mark just had a baby, actually, because Mark, we would watch, like the Royal Rumble, which is, like, brilliant. I love the Royal Rumble when I was a kid.

00:35:10:12 – 00:35:35:07
But with with him, we're talking about the era of the ones you mentioned earlier the earthquake, typhoon, bushwhackers, and also warrior, Hulk Hogan, that sort of stuff. But then I would watch it in the Attitude ERA because I would have been how open up. And then 16. What was that about? Right. How? Because there's just loads.

00:35:35:11 – 00:35:58:05
It was loads of tits and stuff. What are you, 5044? Those tits and and it was like, fun. And it was meant was the rebellious work where we were culturally at that time. That was what, like Attitude ERA was like DC's the suck it is it suck. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking great. Yeah. That is so that was 2 to 2 separate associate.

00:35:58:10 – 00:36:18:12
That's kind of my experience with wrestling. That's it. What were you saying about the wrestling move I remember I so I first got into it from one of my mums, ex-boyfriends. He love wrestling. He used to by the WWF wrestling magazine. Was he the one who used to hide all the porn in your room? No, it's a different one.

00:36:18:12 – 00:36:41:13
That was different. But before him, that was the one before him. Yeah. Nice. And okay. Why is there no support in my room? Yeah. The underwire ice hockey magazines. So what have they got there? And the thing is as well, right in my brain, when I was a teen, it wasn't just like, how have they got there?

00:36:41:15 – 00:36:59:05
Yeah, it's like there's porn here. I didn't even think how how did they get there? Or why were they there? How have they been placed? It was just not fuck, there's porn here was oh, I don't understand. They're just started wanking them straight away. That was it. Putting them back and that was it. What must have picked them up for fuck.

00:36:59:05 – 00:37:22:07
You know man, I can't, can't keep on the mirror. But anyway, with, my next door neighbor, my next door neighbor, and we used to wrestle and we did that thing, you know, I threw him against a pretend rope. He would bounce back. And I was trying to do that leapfrog thing. He puts his head down, I leap over him.

00:37:22:07 – 00:37:48:00
Right. And this geezer. Right, he has a head like a fucking dinosaur. It's like two bowling balls. Sellotape together. It's fucking enormous. Right. And he did the head. He was he was down. Oh, did you know what a young guy he said it was still fucking smashing. It was. It was rock hard. He's well if one of those like you throw a break up and eat it.

00:37:48:00 – 00:38:10:04
But I know what I, And he he bounce off the right round towards me, put his head down, and I went to leapfrog him. I totally missed it right. And he went straight into my dick. His head pounded against my dick. And it wasn't the ball, it was his dick. And I remember lying there and it felt like my dick had gone inside out.

00:38:10:04 – 00:38:29:07
I was in that much pain and I was like, this is fucking. This is terrible. This is not my, you know, like it got inside. How would you know that you think is gone inside that. But that's my only thought. My dick is gone inside out. That's how powerful it was. So he missed it. Fucking. Oh my God.

00:38:29:13 – 00:38:36:04
Yeah. That's brilliant. Well,

00:38:36:06 – 00:38:55:17
What was your what was your favorite finisher, though? I just we didn't answer that. No, no, I didn't answer that. Oh, you see, I noticed I used to like the summer stone cold summer was brilliant. It was. And I enjoyed it. And it was like the toe punch in the stomach that went over and then grabbed them by the neck and, like, stunning them.

00:38:55:19 – 00:39:17:16
I was a huge fan of the pedigree, mate, because I was like, that's number one. Pedigree is number one because you're holding their arms and they can't. They've got no stopping. A full human falling on their head into the ground. You know, that is just that is a move that would end people. I believe that more pedigree.

00:39:17:17 – 00:39:40:08
This phrase was held by this guy. That's our Hogan leg drop. No, the bone of contention that for me is that I found out through doing the podcast with cow during lockdown is every every fucking pricks doing it. Now everyone's doing the pedigree. Everyone's doing like it's like normal moves, so you're ruining it. You're ruining the legacy of these moves.

00:39:40:08 – 00:40:04:12
You're just doing it. You did it. Who is it? Jeff Owens Keith Owens I mean, what? Kevin Owens, Kevin Owens doing stand up tonight. This is Fat gimp. He's he's now wrestling. He's now doing like six pedigree six. He doesn't pedigree. And the stone goes out of Disney. No he does the stunner and Seth Rollins does the pedigree.

00:40:04:15 – 00:40:22:17
Shouldn't be allowed. Yeah that's yeah. Should be barred that shit. So generally they will ask permission of the person. So they would ask triple H I say triple H would you mind. You're now retired. Would you mind if I did the pedigree now. And you have to kind of get it's like part of their culture is you have to get their blessing before you sign.

00:40:22:23 – 00:40:41:07
Yeah I know yeah. So you have to get their blessing to use their citizenship. The rest of themselves come up with these moves or they have coaches that help them. They'll just what a lot of them get. Nick from Japan. To be honest, Gerry's wrestling is where a lot of this shit kind of comes from. Like CM punk does gets to go to sleep, but that's just a move.

00:40:41:07 – 00:41:02:05
He's Nick from Japan was that. That's where some on his shoulders get some on his shoulders. He throws them off and then knees them in the faces of they're on their way down. It looks really good. But he nicked it from Japan. A lot of these moves, you know, originate in Japan. The other thing about I want to say about finishing moves is what they what wrestlers will get taught when they're being trained is okay.

00:41:02:05 – 00:41:28:24
What's your finisher going to be? It has to be a move you can do on anyone. As I say, what might Henry know? What. Yeah, stunner works because he can hit that on the big show. He can hit it on The Undertaker and he can hit it on Rey Mysterio like he could do it on anybody. So whereas if you if you're doing, a finisher move, like, say, Brock Lesnar as the F5 ring picks him up and then fucking swings them around, he's strong enough that he could do that probably to anybody what he has.

00:41:28:24 – 00:41:47:19
He's done it to everybody. But even like yokozuna, well he never wrestled in B. Dude's a big show like he was 500 pounds. Why did he? I remember Kurt Angle doing the angle slam to I think that big shot. And I was like, he picked him up, but it nothing would have happened. Honestly. It was fucking the weakest thing I've ever seen.

00:41:47:20 – 00:42:08:04
No, no, but just let me ask question. He's like big show that like, I know what the Brock Lesnar movies, I know what I is somehow because that is the whole era that just skipped me by completely. But so he held the big show up on his shoulders for how long? Second half a second. Just a couple of seconds.

00:42:08:04 – 00:42:31:24
Was it all one motion? Totally. Hold him up there. He held him up there for for a second or two. Yeah, definitely. Last fight. Fair play. Strong guy. Brock Lesnar unbelievable. Unbelievable. He's mania. He's a fucking amazing. His daughter he's the what was the heart like. Looks harder than any man I've ever seen. Only Brock Lesnar. He's harder than he's lower it he he I'm I imagine getting rattled by Brock Lesnar.

00:42:31:24 – 00:42:59:00
So. He had to do it. So he must have had sex. Yeah. Nasty work. The Sable sables, his wife. What say I remember Sable. Yeah. She was in the Attitude ERA. She was like probably a bigger star as any man Sable was. She was such a big star. And Brock Lesnar married her and had all these kids of her and his.

00:42:59:00 – 00:43:26:07
Yeah, his daughter looks just like him. I was thinking, imagine getting rattled by Brock Lesnar. Thought like she's talking to this terrible. Oh, that's a sure, but she's got a boyfriend. I don't know if he's consenting to all that. Her, terrified. And he's he's got a son called Turk Lesnar. Nice fucking Turk. Lesnar. Okay, Turk. Call anything, anything, any post ice hockey.

00:43:26:07 – 00:43:53:01
You you're like, oh, nice. But I do want to say I do want to ask what before what? Because I still want to reminisce. There's just so much like old wrestlers. I want to talk about. But I do have to talk about, I don't know what is kayfabe, something like that. What is that? Kayfabe is comes from it comes from kind of the fairgrounds.

00:43:53:01 – 00:44:19:03
It's the circus. It's an expression that colonies, that's what they call them in America. Carnival people, they call them carnies because that's where wrestling originates. It comes from fairgrounds and strongman competitions and wrestling. And the kayfabe is the secret of it being pretend. And so if you're doing if you're doing now obviously everybody's in on in on the secret.

00:44:19:03 – 00:44:36:14
But now things will happen that kind of blur the lines of reality and they'll go, that's in kayfabe. They'll always try and keep the secret. Back in the day, all the good guys would travel together and all the bad guys would travel together. They wouldn't drink at the same bar. They wouldn't stay at the same hotel.

00:44:36:14 – 00:44:55:20
They would do everything separate. Because if you're if you've paid for a ticket to watch Ric Flair against Dusty Rhodes wrestled each other, and then you go out to eat and then you're having dinner together. It ruins the whole thing, doesn't it? So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got to keep up this kind of hey hey, yeah yeah yeah.

00:44:55:20 – 00:45:25:04
Yes. So I've got a follow up question to that. How does the McMahon documentary fit in? I might I might be no, no, no. The how does the how does the story the triple H. No. He's the sort of decision making power broker at WWE. How does the documentary which shows them breaking through that kayfabe, that fourth wall and showing you exactly how it all works fit in with wrestling?

00:45:25:04 – 00:45:39:06
Now, do you know what I'm talking about? Ricky? There's a documentary where you see him making decisions again. This person is going to win and this is how it's going to work. This is how the match is going to go. It basically takes down the fourth wall literally. And I get yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I get yeah yeah yeah yeah.

00:45:39:06 – 00:46:02:16
So what is, what was yeah it was we were talking about earlier. Yes. There's two really good documentaries how I that what's the reaction been to that show. A lot of the wrestlers say I don't like this, I don't like doing it, but I don't want to do it. And CM punk was on the most recent one, and he's like, I'm going, I don't want to do this because they're taught in training school.

00:46:02:16 – 00:46:22:11
And coming up, you don't tell people it's a secret. And now, because WWE. Yeah, but to say that, yeah, it's like that only a magician would only teach the trick to another magician. Right? Someone that's in the loop, right? Yeah. Yeah. And it's the same thing. So a lot of the wrestlers now, they'll do interviews and they'll say, I don't like we don't.

00:46:22:13 – 00:46:39:03
I don't like Disney's WWE. I'm real, but I'm a I'm a contracted employee and I've got to do it. I've got to sit there and have be interviewed and talk about it. So a lot of the stuff now that that some of that, a lot of the kind of biggest storylines will end up being revealed on that show, but the storyline will play out and it will happen.

00:46:39:05 – 00:47:01:07
And then six months later, they'll do WWE unreal and go, this is what really happened. So it's great. It's cool to watch it. But even as a Fanney Khan, I felt a little bit dirty. Watch now. So yeah, this is a bit too much. Yeah, I'm seeing everything. You don't want to see how the sausage is made. They don't want to say the hey, if you're not eating it all the way, I see it because I'm not.

00:47:01:07 – 00:47:21:11
I think this is more interesting than like, the the actual wrestling. I don't like. I never it's like when we did the iPod cow and you said you got to watch some wrestling. And I was like, well, I'll get a W, I still think I'm paying for it. The WWE at All Access, I thought it was and if during the network.

00:47:21:13 – 00:47:47:15
Network. Yeah. You know. Okay. Yeah. He would still fight for it. Still paying for it. It's just, you know, I'm like, okay, and, and everything leading up to the actual wrestling itself, I'm fascinated by I think it's really interesting. Strange thing that it's so hard to explain. It's so hard to understand why it's become such a massive and not just here across the world, like you mentioned Japan.

00:47:47:15 – 00:48:12:20
And and then there's like different sort of bodies and, and wrestling throughout. It's like massively popular thing. Right? I get it. And it doesn't have to be for me. But the circus around it was, is will always be the most fascinating thing. I think it's just crazy. Yeah. What I can't understand is, I mean, like, I can and I can't understand.

00:48:12:22 – 00:48:36:24
It's the thing that. So let's take right. WrestleMania is happening this weekend. It is this weekend in it, right? Yeah. And it's happening. And it's like I think it's in a 60,000 seat stadium. Is it sellout? Well, it's sellout. Oh fucking well. Well he won't sell out I think. I think they'll do a lot of comps and or they'll drop prices.

00:48:36:24 – 00:48:59:15
Basically what's happened is WWE used to be owned by Vince McMahon and the my family. And then he had all this trouble with being a sex case, basically. And he sold the company. They did a merger with C and formed TKO, not the Saudis. They formed this company TKO with UFC, but TKO is now run by a completely separate people.

00:48:59:15 – 00:49:17:17
Vince McMahon has sold all of his stock, to sell pretty much to no to back to TKI. The Saudis that would do that was the rumor is that the Saudis had bought it like that was the rumor for a while is that the Saudis had bought it, but then eventually UFC and TKO, they ended up buying it.

00:49:17:19 – 00:49:45:11
But UFC and their model and obviously, you know, you like UFC risk that they that take the ticket prices is so high now and it's an improvement is dream going to WrestleMania and getting a front row ticket and hosting content right. The two tickets now. And I did look because it's probably one of the few things I'd love to do that I haven't done is go to watch WrestleMania in America, and I haven't done it to sit in the nosebleeds of a 60,000 stadium for one night of WrestleMania is about £300.

00:49:45:13 – 00:50:05:15
To to sit just in the fucking gods is like three, £400. It's crazy money. And if wrestling, we've just sat here and spoken about how we all got into it as kids, right? We all got into it as kids. Imagine taking your two girls to watch wrestler now. It cost you a grand at least to go and watch the wrestling for the night.

00:50:05:17 – 00:50:24:05
It's it's crazy evening when they come over here. The tickets are stupid money. So. And that's what's happened. That's why I think it might struggle to sell out this weekend. I think at time of recording it is not sold out. I think they will do it. Yeah. Really? Yeah. A lot of walk up. Surprising. I was thinking about whether or not you actually going to watch wrestling before.

00:50:24:05 – 00:50:32:21
And the answer is obviously yes you have, you must have them right at the right few times. Right. I, I've been.

00:50:32:23 – 00:51:03:02
And what if in WWE it wasn't WWE, WCW. And I'll tell you what, I haven't thought about this. I would say in 25 years it's not this memory had just literally just come to me, I, I don't even know. I have no, I've lost 25 years. I've never thought about what I'm just about to say, which so mad to me because we've talked about this before.

00:51:03:04 – 00:51:30:24
Yeah. I took my little brother Alex to watch WWE, and it was when diesel was wrestling there, and he was called The Big Sexy. Do you remember that Nash, Kevin, Kevin Nash with the I say diesel and they know you're the gym. All of them. All right. That were all right. Yeah Kevin Nash the big sexy and Alex, my little brother made a sign for himself because, you know, hold up the signs at wrestling.

00:51:30:24 – 00:51:51:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Big Sexy with an arrow pointing down to him, I mean, it he would. It must have been about eight or something. Yeah. So that's why I'm sure it must have been Wembley Arena or something like that, I would imagine. Yeah. We went, I don't have any. I remember coming outside and seeing everyone's wrestling.

00:51:51:11 – 00:52:14:01
Right. That people do. You know, wrestling moves on, on the grass like kids wrestling everywhere. And I saw one kid do a tombstone on concrete to another one. Oh, my God, I think you got it wrong side screaming and that's how I get out of his. The amount of injuries that must have happened. But kids pretending to do wrestling.

00:52:14:03 – 00:52:35:22
Is there any famous stories? Keller? You know that. I'm sure it's happened in America. There's nothing. There's nothing that leaps at me in my house. Growing up, if you were standing by a sofa. Because if you were standing by a sofa, you'll get jumped over it like it's the Royal Rumble. Even now, at 40 years old, if I was to be standing by the side, if my brother saw me, he'd walk up behind me in front of me, I guess.

00:52:35:22 – 00:52:54:11
I'm glad you look at it like it would happen now to this day, like a spear. And he's been flying around everything in my house and everything was a weapon. Like. I remember my stepdad went out and bought a new. So far it was broken by the end of the day, but by the that night we'd fucking destroyed it because we just beat it.

00:52:54:13 – 00:53:21:16
We just wrestle all the time in my house all the time, and it didn't really stop until we all moved out. It's. My, my brother in law, he died at the age of 40. Him and his mate saw this package deal for New Orleans. I can't remember what it was. WrestleMania, Royal Rum or something like that. Package deal, flights, hotel ticket, all that lot.

00:53:21:18 – 00:53:42:12
And it's relatively cheap. And he said to his mates, I should we fucking do this? And they were like, you know what? Let's let's live out our childhood dream. Let's do it. And they went and they said it was absolutely amazing. But it's said one of the funniest things was you're in New Orleans, there's bars everywhere. People are walking down the road and they've got a belt on their shoulder.

00:53:42:14 – 00:53:58:11
Like everyone's into wrestling. And as soon as you see someone with a belt and you challenge them to a fight, everyone has to have a wrestling match there and there and then, then and there in the streets. So everyone's just wrestling paced up down the street and fucking mental. Sorry. I mean, I'd love to do that.

00:53:58:13 – 00:54:17:10
That's cool. A that's the role. I wouldn't fucking wrestle. But that's the rule in the community. If you have a belt and someone, someone sees you, you must defend it. I love the thing at Christmas. What is it? Is that really it's. That's the rule. That's the rule. And I've been to the wrestling and carried a belt around and you must defend it.

00:54:17:10 – 00:54:34:00
Me and my brother, like we're planning, like, okay, if I've got to defend it, this is what we're going to do. And I kind of think I'll defend it. You're going to screw this guy over, and I'm leaving my title. I what, what several. So there's a thing when you go wrestling, if you bring your belt in, someone could challenge you to it, but you must defend it.

00:54:34:02 – 00:54:56:01
What does that mean? How you must defended. What are they going to do? Because you have to have the free plans. The wrestling. Yeah, exactly. And there's no there's no methods. There's no real rationale behind it. But that's the rule. If you have the belt, you must defend it. You have to do the you know, Ricky was saying about you were saying about your your daughter saying, oh, yeah, I remember how we brought the belt to the to the to the parade.

00:54:56:01 – 00:55:19:00
We've seen two minutes of me getting off the train, taking out the Tesco bag and throwing it over my shoulder, walking down to meet you guys. Yeah, I had these 220 year olds running over to me going, oh fuck it. Oh wait, can I take a picture of that immediately? Then this old guy about a minute later. And that's the thing about Austin Belt, then Mikey Moore look me in my face and pointed like, yes, you are the coolest guy in the world.

00:55:19:06 – 00:55:44:23
I was like, yeah, who's laughing now? So what if you lived in your mom's shed? Yeah, your 16 a 16. I was so fucking proud. But it's one of those things, a wrestling belt, right? It's it's ridiculous for for a 40 year old man to own, to have this in his house. Right? Is, people love it all that.

00:55:44:23 – 00:56:01:08
Right. But when we when when we went to the parades or when we were at the cottage a couple of years ago, it was over. All of your shoulders within minutes. Yeah. As soon as I went over, as soon as you saw it, you're like, oh my God. And it was over, flower. It was even over your shoulder.

00:56:01:09 – 00:56:23:12
I'm gonna put on Instagram. People fucking loved it. They love it. It's so what you're saying every when, when we when we, when we meet up in, on June 5th, you bring your belt. Yeah. One of us challenges us to defend the belt. I have to defend it. Right? What? What if everybody in the house challenges you at the same time?

00:56:23:14 – 00:56:38:05
I'm thinking, what would we have? A six pack challenge. They call it where the six of you all have a match. And the first one to get the pin is champion. No, we. We just attack you. We share it with me. I'm fucked up, all right? We're taking your belt. You're not gonna leave it in the belt? Probably.

00:56:38:10 – 00:56:59:05
I'm gonna. I'll bring a ladder, and then we'll just hop in the ceiling, which is? Hang the belt. I've got some luminescent things in the garage. Actually, we, what they call the lights that we can smash over each other's heads. Yeah, that was fucking meant. Well, no, I just we haven't touched on this, but I want to chat about it in wrestling.

00:56:59:05 – 00:57:28:16
Right? So obviously, when we were younger, big boss man, ultimate warrior, like proper, just normal pro wrestling and the kind of, athleticism of earthquake. Typhoon. It's just like big, burly men. And as we got through the year, then more like super athletes, right? And then it got to a stage where I was watching wrestling and someone would get a chair on the edge, and there was a bit of blood and that was fine.

00:57:28:18 – 00:57:54:09
Then it was like slamming people on a fucking table of drawing pins people's head to a proper split open like mental stuff. How does that work? What? What the fuck is going on? Are they actually doing that stuff? Yeah, yeah. Back. Not more blood. Now they're bleeding. Real blood. They call it bleeding. So they will. They'll taper. Little piece of razor blade.

00:57:54:11 – 00:58:07:17
They'll cut a little tiny little tiny little piece of razor bite and they'll tape it to some people used to keep it in their mouth. They would just keep it in their mouth and whip it out. Yeah, like a new Jack. You remember the Dark Side of the ring episode of new Jack on it? That it was nuts.

00:58:07:20 – 00:58:22:02
Yeah. Or they tape it to their wrist. They just tape it to the rest of them. When the time comes, they would take the chair shot and then go down, and then they would cut with the hairline. They always cut with the hairline because they don't want the scar to show. So it would go with the hairline.

00:58:22:04 – 00:58:39:03
And it's just there. Yeah. They would just do a little neck. The blood would come down and that's enough and that's enough. And then you look at guys like Dusty Rhodes, the old school guys, Dusty Rhodes or Ric Flair. They fucking hairline just covered in cost. Just loads of scars that once they've lost their hair, it's just covered in scars.

00:58:39:05 – 00:58:57:21
And they were actually fucking bleeding themselves to get that blood. That is that's if they if they bled, if it happened by accident, they call that the hard way. Yeah I would say he got he got busted open and he bleeding the hard way. As in it just happened for real. He got hit with that chair and the little point of the chairs came and cut him.

00:58:57:21 – 00:59:25:09
And they call that the hard way? Fucking hell, that is mental. And like, how can another human, like, voluntarily, like full on, like loads of drawing pins and stuff, like, what is it, the, you know, the sword, the most iconic kind of, match for its brutality, I think. Was it was it Undertaker and Kane? Hell in a cell.

00:59:25:11 – 00:59:44:10
Yeah, but that Undertaker and mankind I had in the cell. Oh, okay. Right, right. It was the at the cottage last time, Alex, after Alex had finished in watching vines, he wanted to start wrestling and we watched. We watched Undertaker against mankind at Hell in the cell. I think, I think for people that perhaps there is definitely some, like, essential viewing.

00:59:44:10 – 01:00:01:17
I'd say for people that perhaps haven't watched wrestling for a while and are interested in it, is to watch that match Undertaker against mankind and all this on Netflix now it's all a Netflix Undertaker against Mankind at King of the ring 1998. And then you got Dark Side of the ring. Those that those you can watch, those don't think they're on Netflix.

01:00:01:17 – 01:00:24:07
I'm not sure whether they're on vice, and I think on YouTube and stuff. And then you've got all the kind of Netflix documentaries, but yeah, that matches where Undertaker throws mankind off the top of the cell. He lands on the table just unbelievable. Unbelievable match. Like falling from that height is like, I don't know man. That's like, no, but how can you how can you do that?

01:00:24:09 – 01:00:48:02
They don't. I mean, he did hurt himself, didn't he? Now it's a lot safer. I think they did it two different. Yeah. He's two. Went through his lip into his nose. Yeah. He just they just did it. Was willing to get fucked up for the thing. It's not like he's. Yeah. It was his idea. He's he walked into the arena that night and said I'm starting the match on the top of the cell.

01:00:48:04 – 01:00:59:00
And they all try to talk him out of it. And he goes, no, no, no, we're we're starting on the top of the cell. And he just walked out. And I'm not sure the Undertaker even knew he was going to do it. He walked. He's mentally and his music comes on. He walks out and he climbs to the top of the cell.

01:00:59:06 – 01:01:13:11
So Undertaker has no choice but to climb to the top of the cell with him. He has to, because that's how the that's the match. So. And then it starts. And then they they call it, they call it on the fly is what they call it. They just go right to the rock. I do this to me right now.

01:01:13:11 – 01:01:30:04
Throw me off, fight me onto the table. And the thing about that, how long after it started, did it? Did he? For how long? From starting to two minutes. Oh, well, so he he's injured himself really badly within two minutes of the fight starting. You could have stopped the match right there and it had been fine. But then the fuckers carried on didn't they.

01:01:30:06 – 01:01:44:14
Like. Unbelievable. It gets back up there afterwards. I don't want to spoil it for people if they want to watch it. But he carries on after that. And I think I always say about that, that match and that moment where Undertaker basic grabbed him by his, by the scruff of his neck and his trousers and just slings him off.

01:01:44:16 – 01:02:03:11
Is the landing on the table is perfection. It's it's perfect. He lands in the perfect spot where it's still going to fucking hurt, but it could have been a lot worse if he go. If he goes half a centimeter back, he lands on that kind of the reach of the table where he. Yeah, it's that crisp which Chris Brown wanted to himself relied on.

01:02:03:11 – 01:02:23:05
The Richard table really fucked himself up. Or if he'd have been a couple of inches forward, he probably misses the table completely and just hits the floor. It was perfect. Absolutely perfect landing. Do you remember the one we have? It always fascinated me. Rick. You remember him? He fits one son, Shane McMahon. Shane. Yeah, yeah. And what was he doing in there?

01:02:23:07 – 01:02:45:16
Shane Shane was Shane's his father's son, but is clearly like you could see the way he moved, the way he ran. It wasn't, like, well crafted in. He was. He wasn't he always like this little fucking neat as well of like the, the father son. And his thing was punching wasn't it. His thing was punching, which is always a problem, you know, you can't do if you think punching.

01:02:45:18 – 01:03:02:03
Yeah. But it didn't he take a really bad for what. He's on his back because he tried to throw him through Kurt Angle to how he did. It was Kurt Angle tried to frame through glass I think he didn't break and he just hit the glass or the or the perspex and he just fell on his head. Yeah, yeah.

01:03:02:03 – 01:03:16:15
Oh really? Oh yeah. He throws him. He lands on his head. He throws him again. He lands on his head. The glass just doesn't break. And I think he throws him the third time and he goes straight through the glass. But Shane's his father's son. He's inherited genetically. He inherited the genetics from him because Vincent was not an athlete.

01:03:16:15 – 01:03:34:15
It's all he was a he had no coordination. Shane's exactly the same. Yeah. And but he's Vince, his Vince. His thing was always. I would never ask you to do something I won't do myself. That was what he always used to say. So if I if you're going to fall off the cell off fall off the cell, when Shawn Michaels would do the zip line and zip line into the ring.

01:03:34:15 – 01:03:50:17
When he did that at WrestleMania, Vince did it. That day. He did it first. He would always used to say, I'm not going to ask you to do something I won't do myself. I wouldn't be enough for me, though. Just because you're doing it doesn't mean it's a good idea. All right? I just I was like, this is I'm not.

01:03:50:19 – 01:04:11:02
That isn't enough. Sorry, Vince. Look, I'd only do things. You could be an idiot. You could be a psychopath. You could be any of these things. I'm not. You're willing to do it anyway. It would have been so much coercion and influence that wrestlers have to do things they don't want to do, and imagine. You see where to to finish on this.

01:04:11:04 – 01:04:32:23
I think the I've got a game as well that I want to play just before we finish. Right. Okay. I sent over a build your own wrestler. Oh, yeah. Did you do a review? Do it. Well, build your own wrestler. In your WhatsApp. I've got the YouTube video. The play. That wasn't what I asked. What was talking about?

01:04:32:23 – 01:05:03:11
That the in the WhatsApp I sent you build your own wrestler. Yeah, I did it, I did it, yeah, sorry, I did it. I was confused for a second I did it. Yep. Okay. That's fine. Well, I'll, I'll go first for mine while you talk about doing yours. No, I've done it. So, I've said this before, but I've said this in the, I don't know how this happened, that today we were talking about in the, patron discord group, and, I've always wanted to be, well, my wrestling name, Ace of Spades.

01:05:03:13 – 01:05:26:06
Nice. My outfit is all black or black. PBKs I want the black elbows. Black, like up to the black boots. Up to the knees, black pants. And I think that that's it. And then on the front of my pants, I want the ace of spades on there as well. I feel like I've seen that or something similar, but I see someone, someone did a ChatGPT.

01:05:26:10 – 01:05:47:09
Oh, that's it, I posted it. That's what I see. Yeah, sorry. Obviously the entrance music has got to be. My head's the ace of spades. It's a lot of running in. There's a lot of pitch black. I think you just said no. No. And then it goes down and the lights come on. Just the ace. And then me just running full pelt into the rig.

01:05:47:11 – 01:06:07:23
I fucking love that. My finishing move would be called the Royal Flush. I didn't quite know what I would do, though. I think it would be like a five piece, like a royal flush. I think it would be like a ten jack, queen, king, ace. But, you know, like, if you were to do the pedigree now, it should be called the black Jack.

01:06:07:23 – 01:06:27:12
The ten should be good. The British movie should be called The Black Jack, I think. Right. Okay. Well, the black Jack. Because there's a jack in spades. There's no. Does that make any sense? Is it? It's not. It's just that I. I'll think about all the cards. No, no. You're fine. You fine. Royal flush is fine. Royal flush.

01:06:27:12 – 01:06:55:10
And then, what about, the witch call it the catch phrase. And I was like, that's where I got stuck. I don't have anything a catch phrase for it. No. Did you bring a spade into the, like the spade like a that shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. That could be part of it, actually. The shuffle. An ace logo on it.

01:06:55:12 – 01:07:17:18
Yeah. Or. Yeah. Does your manager carry. There's your manager use it and your bad guy. And that's how you win matches is the manager gives you the spade and you know and you're finishing move. You finish in the end. You pull from your from your your wrist a nice a spade cards and flick it them. Yeah. Calling card.

01:07:17:20 – 01:07:44:04
Yeah yeah yeah. Oh that's good. That's. Yeah I'm taking that I actually I didn't think about manager I can I just get like who is that guy. He's. It was Jimmy man for the South. Was that his name? But the mega-fight the beef Jimmy won him out for the South. Beefheart or something? Beefheart. Beefheart there, there was a lot going on there, but you've mixed up a lot of different people and like all wrestlers,

01:07:44:06 – 01:08:02:18
Well, there's there's this Alf, Jimmy Hart who should be heart of the Hart family. He's not part of the Hart family, really. But was the manager from some time? I think he was. Yeah, he was when the Heart Foundation was a thing, you had, Jim the anvil? Yep. Knight Hart and Bret Hitman Hart and. Yeah, Jimmy Hart was the manager for a bit.

01:08:02:18 – 01:08:22:06
Yeah, an anvil wasn't a part of the heart for me, because the Hart family's like a yes. He is part of the family, but he's like cousin money or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember that the there was a, there was a group called, there was a tag team called the Lesbians. Yes. Yes, vaguely. Yes. Was it really?

01:08:22:11 – 01:08:48:24
Yeah. Yeah, I think it was a short lived gimmick, but it was I mean, there's a picture of them in the ring there. Just so you girls walk in. The lesbians. I don't remember that cow. You'll remember I got they had some batshit stuff in the early 2000. There was this online thing where one of the referees, his name was Timmy White, and he was a referee.

01:08:48:24 – 01:09:05:24
And every there was like, this is in the early days of the internet, where kind of like web shows were a thing. And every day, every week he would try to kill himself in a different way. And he'd fail. And it was just to make him look stupid. He'd put the exhaust pipe in his car. I try to hang yourself in, the rope would snap, and that was it.

01:09:05:24 – 01:09:23:12
Every week it was worse on TV. What was just on the web? It was on the WWE website. Who was it was trying to kill him. Tim White, Tim White, he's a referee and every week he would fail at killing himself. And that was a part of a wrestling storyline. So, I've just sent you, a WhatsApp of the the lesbians.

01:09:23:14 – 01:09:43:17
So funny. As well, what would your, what would your, wrestler be then? Prince Albert two just be the second. Just be the second. Prince Albert. Your name would be the Prince Albert T yeah, because there's already been one. Okay. And I'm just. Is it really? Yeah. I would just take I would take his name.

01:09:43:20 – 01:10:01:23
I would just take his name. Yeah. Just take it. What are you gonna do? Prince Albert two is my name. You. You've got to ask. You go ask Prince Albert. Ask permission. Permission. No, it's not. It's not his name, is it? It's two. I put two on the end. His new name? Okay. Anyway, Prince Albert two is it?

01:10:01:23 – 01:10:20:00
Two is in the number two, I know. Number two. Number two. How much? I never say I, I fuck. What was next question? Outfit. Outfit. Same outfit, Prince Albert. Same outfit. I think. Used more of like it was a gimp outfit. I think the other, like, sort of it was sort of, you know, with the rings, I'm like demolition.

01:10:20:00 – 01:10:43:22
You remember demolition, in fact. Forget that. Oh, the demolition. Okay. Or the tough, the demolition. You just be a Malaysian. You just remember demolition. They looked like S&M people. Yeah. Yeah, they were. They were lots of leather. Lots of little spikes, rings. And they had facepaint. They had, like, kind of like punk. Okay. White face paint. Yeah.

01:10:44:03 – 01:11:04:15
They were look kind of like kiss. Yes, a bit like that. Like a bit like that. Right. Fucking. Oh that is, that is a memory. Jesus Christ. And it's topical because they're going into the Hall of Fame this year. They're going to the WWE Hall of Fame this year. Demolition all but a but there was a guy, who was in it and he had a perfect head of hair.

01:11:04:15 – 01:11:28:22
Despite it was it was ax. Yeah. There was ax smash. And then crush joined for a short time. Yeah. So it didn't make any sense because you had these the demolition, it literally looked like they could be gimps or like, like it left big. So big in the game gay scene. But one of them had a perfectly crafted head of hair that doesn't fit at all.

01:11:28:23 – 01:11:55:01
It was like hair your dad might have. If you have hair. And then this is a wrestler called ax, but he's just got this really well-groomed head of hair. It was, it was strange. Yeah, I'd have those, but yeah, but my, And it. Yeah. Gone. I would have, like, a penis. It's like a extension thing.

01:11:55:03 – 01:12:11:17
So people look that don't go. Is that real or not? No, it wouldn't be out, but it'd be packed. Like, I love a massive. Oh, that would be, like, pile gimmick. Oh. So it would look like you've just got a massive gong in your hair, right? Okay. Right. There they are. Yeah, yeah. And and then, it would bring the ruckus by.

01:12:11:17 – 01:12:35:17
What are you saying? Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And, finishing move would be called the Prince Albert to. Right. Okay. This is t I like it. And what what is that? You can do it on anyone. Yeah, I think borderline could do it on everyone. I think it's okay. It's a standard. I'll tell you what it is.

01:12:35:19 – 01:12:53:04
It is. I can't remember the name of the thing where you. It's like a tombstone, but it ain't a tombstone. You put them in the pile. Driver. Okay. Okay. But, yeah, it's reverse. So they're cock. My cock is in their faces. I pile drive them and their cocks in my faces as they get powder. Driver okay.

01:12:53:04 – 01:13:14:19
So 2 to 2 cocks t cocks. Right. And have you got a name for it? Is can just go. Two cocks, two cocks, two. Good, good. Gentlemen. Oh it's too cool. It's like a mid 69.

01:13:14:21 – 01:13:39:01
Nobody's ever kicked. That's right. If you, if you, if you look at it that angle, it's like a 69 bit midair isn't it. Right. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Oh lovely. Lovely. Yeah. That's it. That's all I got. And if you've got any, catchphrases or anything, even Prince Albert. Yeah, yeah. Thanks. Thanks, everyone. That's what it. That would be it.

01:13:39:03 – 01:13:55:09
Thanks, everyone. Oh, everybody. Thanks, everyone. Cheers, everyone. Thank you.

01:13:55:11 – 01:14:15:05
Cat, what would you what would you. Hey. Think I can follow that? He doesn't want to be honest, but would you dress up as a kid? Would you try the, Oh. Ultimate warrior laces around your arms? I used to do that. I had to, I've still got them upstairs in the loft. Actually, my my, I don't know why my mate gave him to me, but he did give them to me.

01:14:15:05 – 01:14:34:21
I've got Bret Hart sunglasses upstairs in the loft somewhere. Yeah. Oh, no. It's, And I've got of rock's, elbow pad. I've got one of those, I've got a man kind of Mr. Socko. That sock with the drawing on it. Oh, yes. Yeah, I've got one of those, Again. Oh, some. Somewhere upstairs in the loft.

01:14:34:23 – 01:15:00:12
All the cool shirts up there. But I, I have a slight advantage on this topic because I played the video games for a long time and would make my own wrestlers, and me and my mates would make make our wrestlers into our 30s. So. For. You still do it there. You have you got a WrestleMania game on your five iron?

01:15:00:17 – 01:15:20:14
Yes, I've got WWE two K 24 I haven't. I did get the new one, but I've only played. I see that the new new ones just come out. I haven't played the last two, but I did say, to see how if it's fake, how is it competitive in a game since it's different world, isn't it Israel in that sense, because they're not.

01:15:20:14 – 01:15:38:05
Actually, there's no worrying of trying to hurt each other because it's how they build the storylines. If they don't know what it doesn't matter. Yeah, there's all preloaded kind of storylines on that. But I used, so my, my Twitter handle on all of that is what my wrestling name was. So when we were growing up. Oh, yeah.

01:15:38:07 – 01:15:54:15
It's so childish and pathetic. Well, it's kind of an internet of things now. I've never been able to think of a new internet handle, and I just don't fucking care anymore, to be honest. No. So we, me and my mates, we used to play the video games and we loved watching wrestling and did a lot of that.

01:15:54:15 – 01:16:09:00
And when we play the video games, we make our own little faction. Right? And our little faction was called the Bear Circle. That's what it was called, right? The three of us, 3 or 4 of us, would call ourselves the bear. So hence PC at the start of PC, the grass. Right. So that yes, this is excuses.

01:16:09:00 – 01:16:31:01
I've never spoke about this on podcast before. So we would all call ourselves the Bear Circle. Right. And the Grand slam in wrestling is. So if you win the WWF title, the Intercontinental title, and the tag team titles, you've done the Grand Slam. That's what that gave, I call it right. They call it a career Grand Slam is what they call it.

01:16:31:05 – 01:16:51:08
So when I would make my wrestler, I'd call him the Grand Slam. That's what I'd call him. But and we, we called our little faction the bass. So when I started going on the internet forums, I just called to slam that. Was it. Right? Lovely. I've never. I've never known that I assumed your handle would be wrestling related, but yeah, I didn't know any of that.

01:16:51:10 – 01:17:15:18
So you'd be called. Would you be called the Grand Slam? What would your outfit be? I used to, when I think the last time I made the wrestler on the game, he wore, like, a white t shirt, and it had bc on it in, like, gothic writing. Fuck you for, I can see you laughing. He would wear little fingerless gloves like white fingerless gloves, black elbow pads, but white tights with black chaps over them.

01:17:15:20 – 01:17:33:11
And the sunglasses. And this is the best bit. He would have gray cornrows. What? What what was I think he I used to nick. He's kind of like the rock bottom, but it was called the book and it was Booker T's finisher. It's pretty similar, actually. And I used to use that, and I used to use the Sweet Chin Music.

01:17:33:11 – 01:17:58:11
Shawn Michaels switching music as well. That's fucking great. I used to love the superkick. I used to love that. That was the one actually. When you when you were saying earlier about finishing move, just getting used. Just like set up moves or just standard moves. The super kick went from being Shawn Michaels, putting down The Undertaker with the Sweet Chin Music to The Young Bucks, who are a tag team, and just doing 20 of them a match or a new show.

01:17:58:11 – 01:18:23:18
Now the Usos, they just do superkicks all the time. They should be banned. Should be banned. Yeah. They just they they they'd spam. They would just spam superkicks these guys in wrestlers and just shit. And it was the effect of the move. If it is like their finisher and they take it and they and it has to finish with that then or I kind of see that, but just for it to put him in a normal move, set, I don't know.

01:18:23:20 – 01:18:28:01
Shoemakers are the best, best music.

01:18:28:03 – 01:18:56:06
Sexy. But but just how it is. Just how easy start. I think. Is it something like, oh. Okay. Oh, I think I think I'm sexy. No, I'm sexy. I got the move. The. It's like it goes wide or something. It's a banger. He's. He was like, when we were kids. He was the best. He was like, in terms of, like, you always knew when he was on it.

01:18:56:06 – 01:19:18:00
He was like, this is going to be so much fun. But when he came down the zip zip code, like doing these dancing and shit like that, I always thought it's because he was smaller than the others as well. It felt a bit more. He was your favorite, like growing up. Oh, but yeah, yeah, I think I think I would have probably said, how do you know Hulk Hogan?

01:19:18:00 – 01:19:40:14
Joe? Oh, the Warriors considered to be rubbish at wrestling, I know that is. He told me that it was all charisma. It was all show rather than the actual wrestling itself with strength tests. The gorilla. Yet he, his interviews. When you look back now, when people post them like he looks like drugged off his head, it's fucking mental.

01:19:40:14 – 01:19:58:11
So I can I get that I yeah, I get that, he's your, who's your favorite cow? I loved Hulk Hogan when I was a kid. And then when I was a teenager, it was a rock. I fought the fucking coolest guy. But then when the when the Hulk Hogan went to the NWA and he went bad after, he was cool all over again.

01:19:58:11 – 01:20:21:05
But yeah, it was one of those two, I'd say, I can. Well, he's yours, right? Hulk Hogan? Yeah, Hulk Hogan then I'd probably say the Rock after. Okay. Yeah. Couldn't I play my game now? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fuck, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. It's dead or alive. Okay. All right. Oh, fuck. All these wrestlers dead, or are they alive?

01:20:21:07 – 01:20:47:05
Right. Okay. See how many you can get ready? All right, we start off easy. Eddie Guerrero is dead in a cow. You need to play a long. Oh, I guess he knows, cause he was sort of in the audience. Sorry. Yes. Fucking dead. That's correct. Correct. Vader. I don't even know who that is, but I'm gonna say dead.

01:20:47:07 – 01:21:17:11
He's dead? Yeah. Is that okay? Giant Gonzalez. I don't know who that is, but he's. He's giant. Yeah. So one would think that it's, taxing on his giant body and lungs and kidney and liver. He's dead. Yeah. He's dead. You're right. China. Yeah. Okay. Oh, bless her, she's. I do know she is. Brown bread. Yeah. She's dead.

01:21:17:13 – 01:21:52:14
Brian Christopher Lawlor. Oh, yeah. That that is he. Yeah. Brian Pillman I don't know who that is. Darren. Pills. What is it that he did? Yeah. He's dead. Okay, well, Bobby. Bobby and we. Ian I think Bobby. Ian's alive, isn't it, though? He's dead in the rock. Brian Armstrong, that's dog. He's alive. Yeah. Right. Is it right I loved right?

01:21:52:14 – 01:22:12:08
That's the road dog. Just. Yeah. No. Do the New Age laws intro right now. But you could do it right now. No, it's Brad Armstrong. Brad. Oh, that's his dad, I think. I think he did it. Yeah. He's dead. Yeah. Big Dick Dudley, Jim Brim, and he was in it for five minutes, but he's pretty short.

01:22:12:08 – 01:22:39:06
Pretty sure he's dead. Did you see the Dudley Brothers? He was their dad. Okay. Bam bam Bigelow. Is that. Yeah. Big Bossman did that. Is he gets Big Daddy V yeah. Okay. Yeah. That definitely this. All right. Yeah, I think that's Big Daddy. Yeah yeah yeah. He's dead as well. Yeah. He's dead. There's a lot of dead wrestlers since he is alive.

01:22:39:06 – 01:22:56:18
And really, because they're all fucking dead. Andre the Giant, he's played well with that. It's been dead for years. Yeah. Okay. That's the end of the game. Yeah.

01:22:56:20 – 01:23:20:03
It's, theory. There you go. Okay. I think we'll end it. That make this still say watch. We do part two. That's about it. For part two. Yeah, we will have to do a party. Absolutely. Right. We do have a something only you know, and it is called Grim Slim Jim. The topic for next week is the death of privacy.

01:23:20:07 – 01:23:47:20
So this topic was suggested by a listener. I'll read his email out next week when we go into it, but it's around parasocial relationships. Our influencers, our friends. Should content creators be given the same respect as famous people posting updates of your life online and everyone knowing your business? And are we turning into a big bunch of gossips?

01:23:47:22 – 01:24:08:06
I remember like this is literally last week someone post. I got to be really fucking careful what I say, right? But someone posted something on Facebook. I mean, they went straight into the WhatsApp group of friends chat and I was like, wait, have you seen what they've done? That's not you know, and it's like that pure gossip stuff.

01:24:08:06 – 01:24:28:05
But this is not about privacy at all. No, not in all. Great. All right. Right. I was too much the Goonies was on there. Yeah, well, on on Facebook or something. Yeah. Someone posted something on Facebook, I can't go. No, no, I mean, you like, fuck. Have you seen that that happened. That I love that that doesn't look like their their partner.

01:24:28:05 – 01:24:47:19
What's happened? Air. The privacy. Do I know you? I know you kind of. You don't want. You definitely don't never want it to happen to you. But when it's happening, it's not so fascinating. Yeah. It's good. I'm all over this. Yeah. Let's screen grab it. And. Yeah. And then you find yourself back on their timeline to 2019.

01:24:47:22 – 01:25:12:12
See when the last time they uploaded them. And there, you know, it's just it's mad world out there. But anyway, that's what we're going to be talking about next week. But now we are going to go into something 90, you know, something I need, you know. Have you got the famous and that's it and that's it. So it's been about eight yet.

01:25:12:14 – 01:25:35:16
What's sir. Oh the fucking Tory just turned up at the front door trying to get my vote for that. Should have done a wrestling move on him to do the things I do. The thing is, you can't. I wanted to say what he said about Chris Brown was like, all you've got to do is here, Chris. Chris Brown was entrance music, and, you know, he's a what was it in the da da da da da da.

01:25:35:17 – 01:26:04:09
It's like he's coming to kill you. Coming to do. But you might finish me. What do you what have you set up? Moves was just a diving headbutt off the top rope. Yeah, yeah. He's didn't, my big. I used to. Yeah. Used to do that when you mention the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking mental my man. It's like bam bam Bigelow I like he's like he's flame leotard yeah yeah I yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

01:26:04:11 – 01:26:23:10
What a fucking gosh shit. I need to do this or something I need I sorry. So I spent about eight years ago now, I decided I wanted to take the wife and kids, sister, brother in law and the nephews and niece to the Dodgers game. So we loaded up the cars, and that's when my favorite niece should question that at the time.

01:26:23:12 – 01:26:45:06
Gave me a joint. Slim Jim, if you don't know what that is, it's a meat stick that Macho man used to advertise. I was pretty apprehensive when I saw it, but I said fuck it and ate the greasy beast. We got to the stadium a beautiful evening in Los Angeles, grab my beer and hot dog, and was and was like, play ball.

01:26:45:08 – 01:27:08:15
Everything was going great. The Dodgers were winning. But in the third inning, my stomach began to rumble. No biggie. It went away. But in the fourth it came back with a vengeance. So I grabbed my son and off to the restroom I win. Usually the line crapper is sure not today. Waiting in pure agony till I was second in line, a kind man said, you got your boy with you.

01:27:08:17 – 01:27:30:08
Go ahead. I said, thank you, but it was too late. This is now a salvage mission. Thank God. The boxer briefs they kept, most of it contained the fucking house. So far. So I'm still trying my best to clean myself up. Why couldn't dude wipes existed? I didn't even know they existed. Now I know what you're talking about.

01:27:30:10 – 01:27:51:16
I I'm wet, but mainly, yeah, I did what I could and left the shitty boxes behind in the toilet. Left the store, wash my hands and went back to my seat. Now I'm sure the stinky guy, I'm the stinky guy in the game, but who cares? The game's going great. Everyone's having a good time. Wait, there's another rumble.

01:27:51:18 – 01:28:11:16
Fuck! I need to go back to the restrooms. They can't be busy again, can I? Wrong again. I call my wife to tell her I'm leaving the stadium. So I'm going to find that I'm going to fight a bush to shit. That's a mental decision by the right. Well, that didn't work. There were people everywhere and I had nowhere to hide.

01:28:11:18 – 01:28:34:18
So just a duck walking my ass back to the car. I would walk a few yards, shit myself, walk a few more yards, shit myself again until I reached the car. Luckily, in the back of the car I had a blanket and a towel. I dropped my brand new five ones in the ground. I did what I could with my towel and wrapped myself up with a blanket and waited for the family.

01:28:34:20 – 01:28:53:23
When they got back to the car, my sister in law was kind enough to offer to drive, but I told her I was good. Everything is functional except from my butthole and away we go again. That's another mental decision. If you've just shit yourself like 3 or 4 times and you decide you still want to be the driver, you're fucking mad.

01:28:54:00 – 01:29:18:22
So we're heading down the road in an awkward silence. Luckily there was no traffic and we are cruising. I see my exit and the rumble returned again. Fuck. I'm standing and driving just looking for a place to go. I pulled into a parking lot, jumped out the car and just let loose in the park. I finished my business, left my socks behind and finished the drive home.

01:29:18:24 – 01:29:40:13
I was at the house. I was down to just my tee shirt. I told my family good night and I hit the shower. That's why I don't eat Slim Jims anymore. And that's something only myself, my wife's side of the family, and some like minded friends. No one was a. Let me see a Slim Jim. I don't know.

01:29:40:15 – 01:30:03:14
I assumed, like a pepper on me. Yeah. Massive. Because he's American. Jim a macho man. And he. Oh, yeah, they are. They look exactly like. Like pepperonis. Pepperoni. Yeah. Pepperoni. Me, I love them, dude. I've never eat my. Yeah. My life. Never had a pepper on me. Mike got got me in the fridge at the moment.

01:30:03:16 – 01:30:22:07
Well fuck you love them but. Yeah. How many. How are you getting free. Well, they liked the mini one. So they go in the girls lunches, but they never, never end up eating them, so I'll fucking eat them. Not. It's not free to think I haven't checked my set. Maybe my stomach issues are related to. There is this thing.

01:30:22:13 – 01:30:44:24
There was 600 calories per pepperoni. That's why I have the little, little short one. Like a little finger. I'm joking. I'm gonna check. I was going to say fucking action. Look, I know I was, I panicked, and that's like the kick check what it is. That's the end of that. Anonymous. And before I count, is there anything that you want to promote?

01:30:45:01 – 01:31:07:23
Any social channels, why you came out. You did it all at the start. But thank you so much. Yeah. Below the belt, the yellow logo with the red font. Try to record. I've done like four in, like, the last ten days. I'm quite proud of myself because fuck it, if there's not, if there's not, if there's no boxing on it, it's hard for me to motivate myself, if I'm honest.

01:31:07:23 – 01:31:29:05
But I've been really on it lately and at a good variety, I guess. Flags on sometimes. And then I'll have a lot of kind of boxing writers on there, all so smart and so knowledgeable. But there's also me that just saying terrible things and bringing the worst out of them as well. So yeah, just really, you know, if we can, if we can double the listenership that this year, that's the, you know, let's get the 55 then I'll be I'll be buzzing.

01:31:29:07 – 01:31:49:18
Yeah. So, follow the pod on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcast below the belt podcast and follow him on social to the topic for next week is, privacy. Thank you very much for joining us. And until next week. We'll see you then. Bye bye.