#150 | Bizarre True Stories – Real or Myth?

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: What's happening?

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Ricky: I am. It's the same cycle the last two years, man. And I don't know quite what to do.

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Flav: Whoa.

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Ricky: I quit vaping. New Year's resolution, quit vaping and everything's going fine. Everything is going fine. And then in April. i hit a wall.

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Ricky: And it's like i go to the football. I have a few pints. I get a bit giddy and I'm like… This chewing gum isn't… It's not holding the tide.

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Ricky: So I go out and get a quick little £4 Lost Mary just to, you know, tide me over for that evening, leave it in the pocket. The next time I go for a beer with the boys, it will be there.

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Ricky: And that's it. That's all I want to do Just when I'm having a beer, have a quick vape, and then I'm done and dusted. But I find myself…

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Ricky: When I'm locking the doors at night, everyone's upstairs. I go into my coat pocket and I'm standing by the front door. have a couple of bangs on it.

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Flav: What?

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Ricky: Put put it back in my coat and then off to bed I go. It's like a full stop on the day.

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Flav: What's this? Oh, so you don't smoke, you don't do it during the day, but you you've got it on your nail, Rick.

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Ricky: no.

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Flav: I'm literally watching you i've watched you take a pull on it.

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Ricky: Yeah, And it's…

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Flav: Is it because everyone's out and they don't see you doing it?

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Ricky: It's now slid into May. And what what look out your window. Tell me what's there.

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Flav: Summer, sunshine, warmth.

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Ricky: The sun. Yeah. And it just makes you go into that pub garden mode. And I can feel it in my body. Like, it's like saying, you know your calorie counting, but it's hot.

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Ricky: Just have a beer, Rick.

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Flav: Rick Rick can I to me you just seem to be constantly on like just weird not weird, you're doing it for the betterment but you're right's fasting and you not and then you don't you can't vape and then

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Ricky: You know, it's hot. Just sit in the garden and have a little vape.

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: It's like you just want your life to be a little bit more miserable than it needs to be. like who Who are you fasting for?

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Ricky: ah For me, i like like I'm at my…

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Flav: No, no, I get that.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Does it make you happy?

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Ricky: the No, the the losing weight makes me happy.

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Flav: When's that going to happen?

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Ricky: ah what it goes on and off. It's it's like a

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Flav: So you're not really losing weight despite denying yourself.

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Ricky: No, no, maintaining, maintaining. Losing and then up and then losing and then up again.

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Flav: Like, you're not not smoking crack. it's just a bit of of It's just a bit of steam.

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Ricky: nay

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Ricky: Yeah, but I kind of feel like I've let my kids down because I'm like, ah not not that I did this. Right.

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Flav: Okay, lett let me just tell you something, Rick.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: That's fine at the moment. In a couple of years, they won't care.

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Ricky: bri

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Flav: They'll be so preoccupied with what they're doing. ah They'll be vaping by then as well.

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Ricky: Don't say that. Don't you dare.

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Flav: I wouldn't be surprised if they're vaping already. How old are they?

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Ricky: no

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Flav: 14 and 12. 14 ones.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Flav: Maybe because she's she's very good and she's she's very… yeah she likes sure

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Ricky: yeah. Yeah, she is no way, Nathan. No way. Younger one, we, you know, we might have a Lambert and Butler, 20 on her.

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Flav: I have a problem.

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Flav: ah ah There isn't there isn't a young person in where I live who isn't vaping. Honestly, it's like pandemic. but like it yeah They've brought in vapes to help reduce smoking.

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Ricky: It's fucking mental. Yeah.

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Flav: I mean, putting part of that into business as well.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: And definitely it helps get you off the fags, for sure.

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Ricky: Yeah,

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Flav: But most of these young people would have never started smoking anyway because smoking is a habit is is is of rather seen as sort of quite a disgusting habit, right?

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Ricky: it's bad, isn't

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Flav: Yeah, whereas when we were kids, first thing you did was 16, someone out of a spare cig and you started smoking. and it was like, cool, was like the best thing in the world. It was disgusting, but you just did it. Yeah.

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Ricky: I was nicking menthols out my mum's purse when I was like 10.

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Flav: Yeah, I really 10.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck me. Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Exactly. But these vapes are like, they taste like sweets. It's crazy. um and So the they all these kids are just a like both Will and Chloe, they're vaping.

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Ricky: Oh, Chloe as well.

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Flav: And I'm like, what? She's 18. What am I supposed to do? What was we doing at 18?

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Ricky: Yeah. Oh, God.

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Flav: I was smoking. I was nicking my nan's fags.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: I was nicking my nan's fags.

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Ricky: ah ah

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Flav: Super kings. They were. They were long.

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Ricky: okay

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Flav: Long, really long ones. And like my nan, I'd be lying on the floor because often when I'd go and see him, we'd go into my nan's house. You remember house, don't you? Because she had she used to sit on a chair on the left-hand side. And there was another chair over the other side room where my granddad used to sit. But he's always, it was so far away.

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Flav: So I used to lie on the floor next to my nan, ah you know, by her feet pretty much. Or my my back up against her the chair.

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Ricky: Like a little a dog.

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Flav: Yeah, um um like my nan I think my nan was the only put i was the only person my nan wasn't mean to.

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Ricky: Okay. ay

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Flav: Yeah, she loved me.

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Ricky: Oh.

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Flav: I was her favorite, hands down her favorite.

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Ricky: Really?

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Flav: Yeah, because Russell and Ryan, obviously, they're my half-brothers, but they they only saw my dad every other weekend because their their relationship with their mum split up.

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Ricky: yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: um And ah so I would always go into my nan every Sunday, I would just go in there. I think I wanted to get a whack get out of the house because i had two older stepbrothers and was like…

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Flav: to spend some time on my own banana so she was my favourite no I was her favourite but I used to just I used to nick fags from her and smoke them when she got to a stage where she was kind of i think the dementia had started but I wasn't aware of it so I could just smoke her fags and she wouldn't know yeah yeah

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Ricky: That's mental. While you were talking just then, and you're talking about your nan, this is going to sound weird, right? But I just saw an orb go past around your head.

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Flav: no you didn't

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Ricky: I swear on my life. I swear on my life. When you watch this back, when we watch the video back, you will see it

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Flav: um but that can't have happened because that sort of shit doesn't exist, Ricky.

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Ricky: That is… that is

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Flav: What do you mean an orb? I've just had a wank, so hopefully not.

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Ricky: Well, I believe orbs…

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Flav: That's a joke.

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Ricky: what ah Orbs are… ah Well, it's like little balls of energy, isn't it? That kind of…

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Flav: It's the bits when like when you're watching Ghost Hunters and stuff and they go, oh, an orb. And you're like, oh, rock great, an or another orb.

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: All right.

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Ricky: And I just saw one. Maybe it it was…

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Flav: Well, you see, you show me the video and prove it to me.

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Ricky: Right, I can't wait to do this afterwards. It's going to fucking brilliant.

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Flav: All right. Yeah, so um all the kids are vaping. You'll be vaping. Don't worry.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Hang on. Doesn't D-Money vote vape?

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Ricky: Yeah, she does. Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: In front of the girls?

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Ricky: Like a fucking mate. Like she doesn't do it in front of the girls, but like, yes, cool.

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Flav: Do the girls know?

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Ricky: The vape is laying around everywhere. she She will be vaping in the kitchen. The girls will come in and she's like wafting her hands like they can't smell fucking triple lemon or whatever it is she's smoking.

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Flav: a cherry yeah yeah You can't tell them not to when you're doing it.

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Ricky: It's like, yeah, I know, but i just… They know that I've made a conscious effort to stop, to kind of show them, look, girls, I used to vape. I know it's bad, and I'm going to stop. I, like…

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Flav: That's the thing. Because they won't they stop listening to your words and just follow your actions. What am I supposed to say to Will and Chloe when i'm I'm still smoking cigarettes outside?

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Ricky: you smoking… Are you on the cigs? The actual…

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Flav: and When did I ever give up?

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Ricky: thought you did. I thought, like, you went…

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Flav: when i know When I wasn't drinking, I stopped smoking then.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: So, I mean, we talked about this, but it's so weird. I didn't even want a cigarette.

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Ricky: Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly.

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Flav: like went now Like, if i'm I'm not… I sit in this office all day and obviously I'm not drinking and I don't think about cigarettes. It's only when I get home, if I get home about…

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Flav: Well, whenever, whatever time I get home, I probably start drinking pretty much most times, most nights.

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Ricky: Right. Okay.

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Flav: When when i say start drinking, it's not like tanning whiskey, but might open and brought a bottle of wine or something.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Then the fags fly out.

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Ricky: Fuck, really? What are you on?

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: you on…

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Flav: Rob gold.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: In the white box, yeah? Not fucking mobile reds, no? Because it used to be mobile lights, didn't they?

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Flav: No, gold. Gold.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: Yeah. So, um, Yeah, I don't know. It's weird because I spot i thought like tobacco was the hardest thing to, or nicotine was the hardest thing to give up or one of. But like I said, I have no ah no sensation to want to smoke when I'm not um not having a beer.

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Ricky: Fuck.

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Flav: Weird, isn't it?

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Ricky: and and like and And you're like smoking in front of the kids and that's fine. And you're like, yeah, I know that.

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Flav: But they're not kids. They're adults now.

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Ricky: But like, right.

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Flav: Yeah. Yeah. My dad did. My nan did.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Did you…

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Ricky: I remember.

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Flav: the draw

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Ricky: Yeah, my mum. Yeah, my mum used to smoke for years, years and years.

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Flav: Rick, you know, you're not, you ah you should be setting a good example to your kids, and you do, and youre you are correct.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: But when they go out in the big world, they're going see it all.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: So, like, what do they know?

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Ricky: So…

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Flav: what what maybe not Remy, but Amelie.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Have you talked to her about what, like, ecstasy pills and stuff like that?

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Ricky: Fucking hell no Jesus Christ. I can't…

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Flav: What happens when she gets offered one then? She doesn't know what to do.

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Ricky: Well, I… God, do you think I…

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Flav: bit older. You better wait a bit later. Just 16?

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Ricky: Yeah, I think I'm going to have to wait a bit later. I mean, she is a very, you know, goody two-shoes kind of like…

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Flav: it's

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Flav: Yeah. Good. Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah, but I going have to have that conversation. You know, if you like, so have you had that conversation yours?

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Flav: yeah they They mature rapidly from 14 to 16. sixteen that There's a big change. I know it's a massive change in Will between 14 and 16. He becomes more mature and he's much more like an adult. He's not an adult. He's still 16. But if this you see a switch in your kids at that age.

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Ricky: He looks like one.

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Flav: And then… What? What?

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Ricky: Will, fucking big old lump, isn't

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Flav: Yeah, he's so tall.

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Ricky: Handsome, handsome man as well.

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Flav: He's good looking dad. And Chloe's like 18, right? So she's literally an adult.

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Ricky: Fuck.

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Flav: So ah they ask questions and they're going out and they're dr they're they're going out to like, in the country here, they have this place called The Patch and they they'll meet on this, gri of similar stuff that we did when we were kids.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: ah you We used to go to Paradise Park and drink.

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Ricky: Yeah, help.

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Flav: They go to the patch and drink. The the cycles repeat regardless. And then they just, so well, what what happened was… During lockdown, had loads, we, you know, it was a heavy time, so we it was we thought the world was ending, and so we just I bought loads of like stuff to help alleviate the boredom, let's say.

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Flav: And it was in a lockbox, it was all locked away with a code. um And the last time I used it would have been years ago, and I forgot that the stuff was in there. And there was nothing major, but and the kids found it when we were moving.

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Ricky: what they box open, though was it?

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Flav: It was zipped up, but it wasn't locked. And previously it was in like my room in the top of the cupboard, but it just when we were moving. It wasn't a problem because they you know they ask they they saw sort of like some mushrooms and stuff like that in there.

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Flav: that And they just like know they were asked questions.

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Ricky: Uh, yeah, okay, that's fine.

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Flav: But i just i made it a point, because I worked for the media charity before, working with young people and educating them about things like drugs and a knowing Nick, our mate Nick, who you know works in drugs…

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Ricky: Nick, ya yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: ah harm reduction in young people with drugs that I knew that it was better for the kids to have the information about what to do if someone offers them an ecstasy pill in the future when it inevitably happens they're not given that information and they make the wrong decision like take it whole immediately so

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Ricky: Yeah, double dropping shit like that.

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Flav: Yeah, because they didn't feel it in the first half an hour. That's that that is that's harm that's protecting them from a situation. or not It's not protecting them, it's giving them the information to make the right decision. The right decision could well be, I don't want that, no thank you.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: But we know, don't we?

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Ricky: Yes.

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Flav: We don't make the right decisions, do we?

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Ricky: No, no, no, no, no.

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Flav: Typically. In fact, we like making wrong decisions.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do. And have you have have you had that conversation though?

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Flav: So…

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Flav: Yeah, several times. Not sat them down and go, right, guys, need to talk to you about something.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: Drugs.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: When they get offered to you in the future, it's more subtle, like exhibit A.

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Ricky: Exhibit A, we're all going to do we're all goingnna do this.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: We're all going to do a quarter and tell me how you feel.

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Flav: yeah

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Ricky: We write down our feelings. We journal it. ah

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Flav: No, we just sat down. it was just when you're driving the car. the but The car rides are the best places to have conversations with the kids because there's nowhere they can go.

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Ricky: ah Right, okay.

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Flav: So, and we might start out of like, oh, used to get out my mates. We used get out with all sorts. And then I go, oh, what do you mean? Well, you know, so when you're young, you do you get you put in situations and people offer you things.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Like, have you ever heard of like ecstasy? that that And they'll they'll go, yeah, I know what it is.

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Ricky: Oh, yeah.

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Flav: They know, because certainly if they're on social media, they'll know what most things are. And then you talk to them. Like…

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Ricky: and when you when you educate them and saying like um like, do half and the strengths and all stuff like that, did you ever draw comparisons with your own experiences?

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Flav: No, I never said, I alluded to the fact that we had experiences when I was younger, but I never went into detail about this is what we used to do.

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Ricky: Gotcha.

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Flav: Not like that. It wasn't glamorizing it. It was just saying, look, when you get older, certainly now, now it's like obvious. They're out, they're mating their mates.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: They're going up down to the woods. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they've tried some stuff already. I don't know. They haven't told me and they probably would. um I think they think Chloe would because she's much more like,

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Flav: It's like the second child's syndrome.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Out of the two of them, it's going to always be the year.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: And then… ah So, yeah, you just sort of talk to them about that. And, like, the best one… the this like i guess what you're going to be offered, it's going to be weed and it might be pills and mushrooms and stuff like that.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: It's just some basic harm reduction that they… to keep themselves safe. Like, you wouldn't drink a whole bottle of vodka… right in one go would if you were having to drink vodka you might sip it and see how you feel you don't take a whole ecstasy pill in one go even though it looks tiny these are really yeah it does a lot yeah you can end up in hospital

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Ricky: No.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah. What's that going to do? It does a lot. It does a lot. Yeah.

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Flav: does a lot um so it's just so that they know that you are cool with it and that you're they can talk to you about it at any time rather than if you don't mention it they're gonna get exposed to it anyway not at 12 not at 14 maybe because they're still screamnna like you say she's quite prim and proper but at some stage they are they're gonna see it

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Ricky: Right.

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Ricky: Yeah, because I've always had this thing, right, where we've spoken about this before. We're talking about ah harm reduction, and it's always better to be kind of open and honest. And I wanted that relationship with my kids. I do want that relationship with my kids to say, ah if someone offers you and you you know you are inclined to do it or whatever, take a half and see how you get on, all all that stuff, right?

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Ricky: But then I'm always in that bit, like, if they ever ask me, have you ever done it? not What do I say? do I go… Yeah, I've doubled.

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Flav: Yes.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. oh yes

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Flav: you say but you You just say, that if have I ever done it? And you'd say, yes, in my younger days, I have taken some things.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Yeah, you have to be honest.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: um Yeah, I can see that, yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah, Foxy, yeah yeah. He used to push a good lord knows what in my mouth.

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Flav: I always get blamed for shit like this. He kept putting oxygen, shoving pills in my mouth.

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Ricky: he

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Flav: I didn't want to take them, Fox made them.

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Ricky: ah right oh yeah okay I'll yeah I'll let you know but that might be instead of cool Frank it'll be cool Foxy that'll do that'll work

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Flav: Or if you wanted, ah you know, i'm not not that this is probably a situation that it would be appropriate, but I could always talk to them and then you'd never have to talk about what you've done.

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Flav: But when they're older, when you think they're ready.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Flav: Indeed. Indeed.

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Ricky: But then glorify it.

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Flav: I would never.

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Ricky: That's good.

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Flav: It would come from a place of love.

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Ricky: OK, right.

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Flav: Right, and love and care, yep.

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Ricky: Jingle.

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Ricky: Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous, it's episode 150.

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Flav: So it's…

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Ricky: Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates, one main topic. We answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature, Something Only You Know, and everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod.

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Ricky: How's it going Flav?

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Flav: um I think on Saturday, no, sorry, on June 1st, I'm going to Bristol Cathedral or some place in Bristol to listen to Amnesiac, the Radiohead album, In the Dark, played by an orchestra.

00:18:12.47
Ricky: Mmm.

00:18:15.67
Ricky: Yeah.

00:18:22.58
Ricky: yeah

00:18:30.76
Ricky: i've so I've seen those things.

00:18:32.41
Flav: they put You put a mask on your face yeah and yeah and you lie down.

00:18:34.73
Ricky: Oh, I've not seen that one. Fuck off.

00:18:38.71
Flav: They just play the album.

00:18:42.20
Ricky: Mate, that sounds ream.

00:18:43.92
Flav: 15 quid.

00:18:45.24
Ricky: My mum went to… It was a present for her fella. But Hans Zimmer.

00:18:52.37
Flav: Yeah.

00:18:52.47
Ricky: Church. Thousands of candles.

00:18:55.96
Flav: Oh, yeah.

00:18:56.47
Ricky: Dark and live orchestra.

00:18:57.43
Flav: Does she love it?

00:18:59.37
Ricky: She's not into Hans Zimmer, but she said it was amazing. So

00:19:03.58
Flav: Why what why why did you buy a stuff? Who's it for?

00:19:07.00
Ricky: ah she bought it for her fella.

00:19:09.02
Flav: Oh, right. I guess I said she went along. Yeah.

00:19:11.16
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and I've seen they do a Fleetwood Mac one. They do a Coldplay one. I'd be fucking well into that.

00:19:19.09
Flav: Yeah, I'm going to… I think it's called Pitch pitch Black payback Playback.

00:19:25.25
Ricky: That sounds all right, you know.

00:19:26.65
Flav: Yeah, it's We the Curious Planetarium on June the third So i'm gonna I might check it out. I might go.

00:19:34.84
Ricky: How were amnesiac, is that high up in your…

00:19:40.28
Flav: ah Not in most people's, but in mine, i would say… i mean, I've… You kind of Because I think I've said this before, but with Radiohead, you you can dip in and out of different albums and when you want.

00:19:53.53
Flav: So you kind of have a favourite at one time.

00:19:55.51
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:55.96
Flav: i think Amnesiac is… Yeah, i love it. I listen to it more than any other Radiohead album. And I have done for ages, yeah.

00:20:01.18
Ricky: Shit.

00:20:02.65
Flav: It's brilliant. So good. now Anyway… okay

00:20:07.87
Ricky: What?

00:20:09.87
Flav: It's good. Because Kid A and Amnesiac, essentially, they were released within the same year. It might have been even been months apart. And they're supposed to be together as a a combined thing. And they actually but later on released them as a combined album.

00:20:23.16
Ricky: what

00:20:24.34
Flav: But yeah, Kid A and Amnesiac. They're like… Amnesiac is like an extension of Kid A.

00:20:32.17
Ricky: I didn't know that.

00:20:33.50
Flav: Yeah. If you go on Spotify, there's a there's one of the albums is… ah see How is it called? It's just Kid A slash Amnesiac or something similar to those effects.

00:20:46.61
Ricky: I'll have a look at that. The um little were bit of housekeeping. There is a ah dilemma update we've had, right?

00:20:53.93
Flav: I

00:20:54.23
Ricky: Do you remember there was a dilemma called Backstage Blues?

00:20:59.61
Flav: can't remember, remind me.

00:21:00.79
Ricky: So it was a gentleman who was with his long-term partner. They'd gone see their favorite DJ. They were a bit ah three sheets to the wind. Someone from a v someone from the DJ entourage came through the crowd, gave his missus a VIP backstage wristband.

00:21:18.81
Flav: Ah, yeah, and she went and left him.

00:21:19.19
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:22.20
Flav: Yeah, i remember, yeah.

00:21:23.45
Ricky: That's the one.

00:21:24.25
Flav: Yeah.

00:21:25.24
Ricky: Hello lads, me again from the backstage blues dilemma. Just wanted to update. Me and the missus spoke and moved past it. She was truly sorry for what she caused.

00:21:37.18
Ricky: Think I just needed an outside, unbiased opinion for reassurance. I have a great relationship. Thank you for helping me not screw it up. I've also quit smoking and vaping. Oh, fuck you. ah Fuck, i didn't read that.

00:21:52.83
Ricky: Latinon is helping me through the irritability and cravings.

00:21:54.90
Flav: ah

00:21:56.15
Ricky: Thank you. P.S. That Flav is a great guest. You should get him on more often.

00:22:01.43
Flav: This is ah that's a, that's a joke that's a hangover.

00:22:01.53
Ricky: Okay. Yes.

00:22:04.85
Flav: Do you know this? It's a hangover from Jaffan.

00:22:06.17
Ricky: No.

00:22:08.89
Flav: The joke is that I'm a guest on James's channel.

00:22:11.70
Ricky: is it really?

00:22:12.09
Flav: ra

00:22:12.87
Ricky: Yeah.

00:22:12.82
Flav: Rather than a podcast. Yeah, rather than rather than it being our podcast, I'm a guest on his podcast.

00:22:18.97
Ricky: ah

00:22:19.18
Flav: That's the joke.

00:22:20.31
Ricky: ah Because someone mentioned it last week as well, and I didn't twig.

00:22:24.54
Flav: Yeah, I didn't hear it last week, but that's what it was.

00:22:26.52
Ricky: Right, okay, right, okay. I like that, I like that. um We are still getting people that are sending in ah to the feature, don't listen. We have this week's don't listen.

00:22:39.71
Ricky: Play it in one second. What this is?

00:22:41.02
Flav: Last week, woman was fudding herself off.

00:22:43.19
Ricky: Yeah, I couldn't believe that. I listened back to that as well, and I was like, there were there was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:46.46
Flav: Did you get a twinge?

00:22:50.75
Flav: Yeah, little twins.

00:22:51.48
Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

00:22:51.70
Flav: I don't know what you're like.

00:22:53.43
Ricky: Well, yeah, course.

00:22:54.29
Flav: What'd you do?

00:22:55.35
Ricky: Oh, I didn't do anything. No, yeah God, no. Because if there's us two laughing in it as well. Because I didn't know what was happening, first of all.

00:23:00.02
Flav: The thing is…

00:23:03.03
Flav: i

00:23:03.10
Ricky: There was a first noise and we were, like, talking and I was like, did I just… And then another faint one came through and then I was like, fuck, is that…

00:23:08.73
Flav: Yeah.

00:23:11.29
Flav: So, like, in my opinion, what is it cheating if you knock one out to that?

00:23:15.78
Ricky: No.

00:23:17.84
Flav: No?

00:23:18.55
Ricky: Well, I mean, like it's like saying if you knock one out to porn…

00:23:22.04
Flav: Yeah, but that someone who listens to the podcast is some sort of different. Like, your wife, your missus wouldn't be happy if you did that. And you haven't done that.

00:23:29.61
Ricky: Mmm.

00:23:30.22
Flav: You haven't done that. Let's be clear.

00:23:31.05
Ricky: Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

00:23:31.14
Flav: but like

00:23:32.35
Ricky: Nah. nay

00:23:35.22
Flav: Like, what if like your missus received a a voice note of some man getting fudding, like, wanking, going, oh, oh. Would you be okay with her?

00:23:44.18
Ricky: ah

00:23:45.21
Flav: ah Would you be okay with listening?

00:23:48.54
Ricky: Well, I mean, that's the thing is, right, we could, like, that person, whoever sent that in, that could have been another recording from an audio from a video or whatever.

00:23:58.61
Flav: Of course. Yeah, of course.

00:24:00.09
Ricky: So we don't know. But, ah so I wouldn't have said that, but now you mention it, I still don't think it. So that's fine.

00:24:09.18
Flav: Okay, fine.

00:24:09.96
Ricky: um So this feature, don't listen, flap out out request that anyone can have their time in the sun, If they send us an audio and all you have to do is label it, don't listen.

00:24:24.93
Flav: Yep.

00:24:25.08
Ricky: We won't listen. stays under a minute and it could be a recording of whatever you like.

00:24:27.10
Flav: We never do.

00:24:31.33
Ricky: And we will play it live on the podcast. what we would you know Our one request is no kind of racism, homophobia, any of that stuff.

00:24:42.30
Ricky: But good, clean fun, really, is what we request. And we're going to play one now, and neither of us have listened. We've got no idea what is coming, so enjoy this.

00:25:43.42
Flav: you.

00:26:04.92
Ricky: Very nice.

00:26:04.89
Flav: wonder yeah I wonder if there's anybody who listens to doesn't listen to the fighting cock and listens to this. There may be people's like wives and stuff.

00:26:12.57
Ricky: Yeah.

00:26:13.68
Flav: I don't know if we can go into that story once again.

00:26:17.69
Ricky: Well, I mean, it's just a, let's just say it's a story that Flav has cooked up, whereby that Tottenham's chairman, Daniel Levy, for Tottenham to get, well, for the fans to get their own way.

00:26:29.86
Ricky: ah Yeah, the chairman has his wicked way with me in a travel lodge.

00:26:29.94
Flav: More players. just get more players.

00:26:35.13
Flav: ah

00:26:37.51
Ricky: I think it's a travel lodge in Watford.

00:26:38.71
Flav: in well

00:26:44.15
Flav: Yeah. And he basically, you yeah you're completely naked and he's got his suit on.

00:26:48.63
Ricky: Yeah.

00:26:49.13
Flav: And he pokes his willy for ease fly.

00:26:50.78
Ricky: Yeah. Erection through flies. Cause he's got, he's got no time.

00:26:52.50
Flav: um you And he hoists you up.

00:26:54.02
Ricky: He's a businessman. say ah yeah.

00:26:57.28
Flav: Your your legs around his waist.

00:26:59.00
Ricky: Yeah.

00:26:59.93
Flav: And yo he puts you up against the door.

00:27:00.06
Ricky: um

00:27:03.42
Ricky: ah

00:27:05.91
Flav: And he starts having his way with you, Ricky.

00:27:07.42
Ricky: Yeah. And then, and then my, my, my legs and arms ah wrapped around him tighter and tighter, like an anaconda.

00:27:08.47
Flav: bouncing Bouncing you on him.

00:27:16.66
Flav: Yeah. yeah

00:27:20.06
Ricky: ah

00:27:20.06
Flav: And what do you whisper in his ear?

00:27:21.94
Ricky: I can't say this bit. I enjoy the joke up to this point because this bit just makes me, i can't, I can't do it. Yeah, go on, you do it.

00:27:30.62
Flav: He whispers in your I'm going to make you come, Daniel.

00:27:30.88
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:27:39.83
Ricky: ah deary maid it

00:27:40.02
Flav: Oh, yeah. And most people won't know that there was a second meeting, this time with Igor Tudor, that he was disgusted with your little naked body.

00:27:46.46
Ricky: yeah

00:27:49.88
Ricky: yeah

00:27:50.33
Flav: And like a big ogre, he threw your body like a baby at the wall. Yeah, yeah good stuff.

00:27:58.62
Ricky: Oh, dearie me. Well, thank you for that voice note. Good, good voice note.

00:28:01.09
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:02.02
Ricky: And what what a lovely person that the that that old lady had locked her car keys in her door and you took her back home to go and get the spare one, even though she just listened to, you know, that story there.

00:28:02.14
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:09.40
Flav: Yeah. Good lad.

00:28:14.04
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:15.74
Ricky: um

00:28:16.06
Flav: Oh, oh, oh.

00:28:17.59
Ricky: yeah

00:28:19.70
Flav: Oh, oh. Wrecky, wrecky, wrecky, wrecky, wreck, wreck, wreck.

00:28:23.19
Ricky: yeah Oh, my God, that is disgusting.

00:28:27.58
Flav: I can't remember.

00:28:30.14
Ricky: Do you know what we're talking about today? i can't remember. No, I'm only joking. It is… Well, I was going to say the world's most bizarre stories, but i don't know if it's the world… And i don't know if they're the most bizarre, but I've kind of got some stories and they're just sentences and paragraphs because I'm not going to read everything out.

00:28:48.28
Ricky: And I'm quite glad we've started with this first one because this took Britain by storm when it came out. And there were still a kind of ah the stones that are unturned, but it is believed to be a bit. I'll just read it out.

00:29:06.42
Ricky: The Enfield Poltergeist, right?

00:29:09.09
Flav: Oh, yeah.

00:29:09.18
Ricky: North London family claimed their house was haunted by a violent poltergeist. Furniture moved, voices echoed through the walls, and one daughter was alleged allegedly levitated.

00:29:21.58
Ricky: Even journalists and police officers reported strange events. Proper can't sleep after watching the documentary type of stuff. Now,

00:29:33.37
Ricky: I mean, you've just laid your cards on the table about orbs and ghosts, but you you remember back to this, and especially, you know, the documentary that we that we both know. What was it called again?

00:29:44.38
Flav: um Ghostwatch.

00:29:45.98
Ricky: Yes.

00:29:46.84
Flav: Yeah, Ghostwatch was a dramatization or… like Well, now it'd be known as a mockumentary, but but but there weren't they certainly weren't common back then.

00:29:51.78
Ricky: Mockumentary, yeah.

00:29:56.18
Flav: And it would have been like 1985, 1986, maybe. Maybe little bit maybe in 19…

00:29:59.72
Ricky: Hmm.

00:30:00.12
Flav: maybe maybe a little bit old look maybe it was nineteen ninety I don't know exactly when it was, but it came out and it was essentially mockumentary based on the Enfield poltergeist. The Enfield poltergeist is known around the world, which is weird because Enfield is just an unassuming little suburb in in north northwest northeast London.

00:30:17.94
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:30:18.52
Flav: um And yeah, so Ghostwatch did a dramatization or a mockumentary about that, but they passed it off as if it was real.

00:30:32.82
Flav: And so we were watching it and we were watching it. It's like, oh my God, this is the scariest thing as well. So they've got a live camera and it's filmed as live.

00:30:40.28
Ricky: yeah

00:30:41.11
Flav: And the these kids are sort of levitating and they're they're getting scratches all over them. And you're hearing you're hearing the the ghost talk on the pipes.

00:30:47.08
Ricky: Oh my god.

00:30:51.23
Ricky: Pipes.

00:30:52.19
Flav: Yeah.

00:30:52.38
Ricky: Yeah.

00:30:53.30
Flav: Shut up. That's what said. you remember?

00:30:55.48
Ricky: Yes. Yes. Yes.

00:30:56.05
Flav: Told him to shut up. Shut up. Shut up. And they were really clever because the camera would pan around and in the curtain you'd see an out print of a man.

00:31:03.61
Ricky: yes yes

00:31:05.18
Flav: really It was really good. And I mean, I'd i'd watch it again.

00:31:09.59
Ricky: I mean, a for one of the, I think we did an episode. I don't know if we did it specifically on the end for, ah and on the end for all ghost watch, but it was part of it. And I did watch it back. Uh, and I still was like fast forwarding bits and looking away from the screen. Cause it is fucking, I remember watching at the time and it was horrible, but right.

00:31:29.53
Ricky: I mean, this is a bizarre story because it says that journalists and police reported on strange events as well as the family, but there was also embellished parts as well that they knew were hoaxy.

00:31:36.95
Flav: Yeah.

00:31:42.14
Ricky: But what, what like, is it, we've spoken quite a lot, right, on, like, last week, ah simulation theory, we've spoken about space, multi-dimensions, and just weird goings on.

00:31:56.31
Flav: yeah

00:31:59.48
Ricky: Where are you with these types of stories? Because we had a chat, didn't we, during the week? I don't if it was on this podcast or if it was on WhatsApp. I can't remember now. About your house.

00:32:11.58
Ricky: Your new house.

00:32:12.30
Flav: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:13.66
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:13.78
Flav: but Wait, it was on…

00:32:15.10
Ricky: Was it on this?

00:32:15.90
Flav: Yeah, I think it was on something. I don't remember.

00:32:19.13
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:19.21
Flav: don't remember. We speak so often. and ah can't remember when I spoke so much about it. but Yeah, there's like mike there's some really creepy stuff going on in our house.

00:32:27.08
Ricky: Hmm.

00:32:28.09
Flav: Um… Well, say creepy. It's only creepy if you if you're scared, isn't it? It's not… I don't even… Like, stuff's happened I can't explain. But I don't believe in ghosts. So it's not ghosts. It's something else.

00:32:43.07
Flav: But other people do think it's ghosts. But what i um I will refuse to be scared ghosts 44. It's one of the most pathetic things you could ever be.

00:32:55.03
Ricky: Right. Okay. I mean, I will never, ever have a but bad word to say about ghosts because… I'm looking around at the moment and if there is anything, you know, if there are any kind of vibrations or energy or different dimensions or whatever, I don't want to kind of antagonize.

00:33:16.63
Ricky: So I will just say that there are, there's a possibility. Actually, one of my favorite stories from doing this podcast and where I, what, do you mean?

00:33:25.34
Flav: Who do you think you are, Rick? Who do you think you are? Well, they' they've gone through. They understand what the afterlife is and they think, right, we're going to get Ricky because he doesn't believe we're real.

00:33:36.18
Ricky: Well, not that i Yeah, when you put it like that, it's a bit…

00:33:43.19
Flav: Show me any documented proof that that there is any afterlife. Just show me something and that I can believe. Just show me something.

00:33:50.39
Ricky: yeah There were some books and images when we were younger, quite iconic images that like still burnt in my brain,

00:33:54.07
Flav: Yeah, I remember them.

00:33:57.43
Ricky: right And I can't get away from those. So I will never kind of, bit but I will never put my hands up like you are doing right now and being like, mate, whatever you've got, come at me because there is no, sounds and sounds like it.

00:34:08.45
Flav: i'm not I'm not saying come at me, I'm just saying not scared.

00:34:11.29
Ricky: Oh, look look at you.

00:34:11.51
Flav: All right, then.

00:34:12.31
Ricky: I'm not scared.

00:34:12.54
Flav: All right.

00:34:12.89
Ricky: Look at him.

00:34:14.58
Flav: Prove to me you exist right now. Or this at three o'clock in the morning tonight, right? Prove to me then if you want to. If it has to be three o'clock, prove it to me then.

00:34:24.79
Ricky: How can you, how can those words leave your mouth? You are a madman.

00:34:27.45
Flav: Because I legitimately, legitimately impossible for ghosts to exist.

00:34:34.97
Ricky: ah what What am i god

00:34:35.51
Flav: Prove it to me. These are the list of things, sorry, Rick, that have happened in my house. um The smell of um incense in my office.

00:34:46.52
Flav: Strong smell of incense.

00:34:48.98
Ricky: I? Sorry, the the office you're sitting in now or at home?

00:34:51.26
Flav: No, no, home.

00:34:52.57
Ricky: Okay.

00:34:52.66
Flav: It's not an office. It's actually just a bedroom, but I don't know why we just call it that. ah So walking, footsteps.

00:35:01.92
Ricky: Oh,

00:35:02.71
Flav: Bear in mind the house is detached. It's not connected to another house. um Will was in bed and heard footprints footsteps in the attic above his room, which is directly above his room.

00:35:15.44
Ricky: God.

00:35:15.86
Flav: And we have a staircase that goes up to the attic. And there's nothing in the attic.

00:35:18.26
Ricky: Oh, God.

00:35:20.79
Flav: It's just floorboards. So we haven't done anything. We haven't finished um working on it yet. So what I saw was when I came up the stairs to the kids, are basically there a staircase that leads to two bedrooms and a small shower room, right?

00:35:36.79
Flav: So we've gone up there, the shower room light was on and there was somebody or something behind the door, the crack in the door. like You know the conventional horror movie you see a shadow through the door?

00:35:47.22
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

00:35:49.69
Flav: it was um It was something that was moving behind it. And I opened the door and there was nothing in there. um Ollie's heard teacups being placed down in the, not like old fashioned China, not what we have.

00:36:02.55
Ricky: yeah.

00:36:04.09
Flav: Yeah, so those are the things that have happened thus far.

00:36:06.97
Ricky: and Yeah. And you're you're okay? Like, it just try doesn't bother you because it's not real? Right, okay, that's interesting.

00:36:14.26
Flav: Yeah.

00:36:17.52
Flav: Mate, I want it to be real.

00:36:17.82
Ricky: i' Mate, I'd have to leave the house.

00:36:20.98
Flav: No.

00:36:21.18
Ricky: i'd like Even though I've paid all this money, we now have to leave.

00:36:26.01
Flav: And and and and you out of the corner of your eye, you do see things like moving and stuff like that, like like it's a shadow. But it's all, it's all

00:36:33.02
Ricky: That is ridiculous.

00:36:35.83
Flav: because we know, we've all talked about it. We're seeing, looking for things, subconsciously looking for things that are just not there.

00:36:41.02
Ricky: Yeah. One of my favourite stories…

00:36:44.65
Flav: And if they are, what can I do about it? I'm going to sit there and be scared every night when I go to bed.

00:36:48.82
Ricky: Can you not get like a…

00:36:48.91
Flav: Someone

00:36:50.40
Ricky: What do you call it? An exorcist type character in.

00:36:56.84
Flav: from the church maybe come and bless the house or some shit.

00:37:00.66
Ricky: Yeah, dash holy water all over the gaff.

00:37:01.48
Flav: Ollie's been walking around. Ollie does believe in all this shit.

00:37:04.49
Ricky: Well, there you go.

00:37:05.43
Flav: Yeah.

00:37:06.09
Ricky: One of my favorite stories that you ever told on this pod, and I had no idea about it is when you used to, when you were younger and you hide under the covers when you were scared of ghosts and you got your your family, the army of ghosts.

00:37:16.63
Flav: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All my older dead all the dead ones.

00:37:19.89
Ricky: LAUGHTER

00:37:21.82
Flav: Could you protect me against the ghosts? Yeah, when I was a kid, I was well scared, yeah. It was like, I'd go Nanny Betty, Andrew, Grandad Sid, um Uncle Bill, um just list them all off. Anyone dead I knew.

00:37:38.94
Ricky: yeah

00:37:39.18
Flav: Nanny Margaret. ah could you just like make sure protect me against the ghosts?

00:37:46.36
Ricky: You…

00:37:46.39
Flav: That's what I used

00:37:46.80
Ricky: Maybe you need to do that for this house.

00:37:52.13
Flav: say. I think at 44, even if the ghosts are proved to be real, what what what is there to be afraid of?

00:37:59.16
Ricky: Hmm.

00:37:59.90
Flav: If they're like poltergeists and shit's flying across the room and shit, then that is that would scare me that instance.

00:38:04.79
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:06.33
Flav: But the fact that poltergeists cannot exist means that it will never happen.

00:38:11.42
Ricky: I mean, you could be, what what imagine, woke woken up, middle of the night, you're bent over the bed, getting bummed out by a poltergeist, and your missus sat upright, tore watching happen.

00:38:19.07
Flav: Yeah.

00:38:22.07
Flav: She'll never be able to look at me in same way again.

00:38:23.48
Ricky: No, no, and she wouldn't able to see anything. she's just be seeing you jerking up and down, getting terrorised over the bed.

00:38:30.55
Flav: There was a film called The Entity in the…

00:38:32.54
Ricky: Yeah, I remember you told me about this.

00:38:32.80
Flav: set

00:38:34.02
Ricky: I i never watched it. No way.

00:38:35.42
Flav: The ghosts would have sex with women, basically.

00:38:39.06
Ricky: Jesus Christ.

00:38:40.34
Flav: Yeah.

00:38:41.69
Ricky: Right. Okay. Right. Okay. Right.

00:38:42.87
Flav: but So the end the case in point of the Enfield Postgeist is that most of it it was seen to be embellished and over the top.

00:38:43.25
Ricky: Ghost.

00:38:49.88
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:51.27
Flav: So everything else is probably explained away by in other ways. I don't want to, mate. I would love the idea of some sort of afterlife happen.

00:38:58.81
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:58.78
Flav: I genuinely would prefer that to where I am right now, which is there's nothing. So I'd be excited more than anything. There just is no proof. It's why a telepathy thing blew my mind.

00:39:10.58
Ricky: Yeah.

00:39:11.45
Flav: But people, someone poo-pooed it, and I understand it, because I think it's much more likely, I think we talked about this, it's much more likely that the whole thing is a setup than they're actually being able to, that telepathy exists. But…

00:39:24.49
Ricky: Because I listened one of the tapes, I think. And the bit where it got me was um them not being able to submit it scientifically because of something or other.

00:39:40.71
Flav: wasn't it it's the controlled It wasn't a controlled environment.

00:39:43.10
Ricky: Something like that, yeah.

00:39:44.09
Flav: Yeah.

00:39:44.89
Ricky: And I was a bit like, yeah.

00:39:44.89
Flav: um So, look, you have to choose whether to believe it or not. And the likelihood is that it's all set up.

00:39:50.14
Ricky: Right, okay.

00:39:50.17
Flav: Because how can telepathy exist?

00:39:54.52
Ricky: yeah i Yeah, I mean, I don't know. this is this is the…

00:39:59.64
Flav: did you Did you listen to the podcast?

00:40:01.56
Ricky: i listened to one episode.

00:40:03.13
Flav: So it gets more mental. or The Telepathy Tapes podcast. It's been listened to millions of people. was a massive, massive deal.

00:40:07.16
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:08.95
Flav: It gets even more mental. So basically they they focus on kids with non-verbal autism. let's get Occasionally a couple that are verbal but not. It's more of the kind of, you know, autism is a slight sliding scale depending on and you can be wherever you are in it.

00:40:24.44
Ricky: Yeah.

00:40:25.27
Flav: The kids that they worked with were non-verbal, so at one end of the scale. um And they found this play where they would talk about this place called The Hill.

00:40:36.79
Flav: And the hill is where when they would meditate or fall asleep, they would all meet up in this sort of world. this It's like a may imagine like an internet chat room, but it exists in their minds.

00:40:49.14
Flav: And they would all meet there and they would share information with each other that there's no way that they would know.

00:40:57.22
Ricky: Right.

00:40:57.43
Flav: unless they'd actually been talking to them. So they didn't know each other in real life, but they would go to the hill, all these non-verbal autistic kids, to to communicate with each other.

00:41:08.02
Ricky: I mean, it sounds… I can't say that it sounds plausible because we we you know there's no record of it. like We can't record and measure it and stuff like that.

00:41:17.62
Flav: Let's…

00:41:20.41
Ricky: But how do these things… how you Do you see the news yesterday dropped? This has happened twice now with this podcast. One about space when we're saying we've never been back there. Fucking week later.

00:41:30.97
Ricky: Oh, by the way, we're off to space. See you in a bit. Great. And then we were talking last week about… um Fuck, what was it called again?

00:41:42.04
Ricky: The… What theory was it

00:41:46.51
Flav: I don't know. I can't remember.

00:41:47.32
Ricky: um Anyway, we're talking about no the Neuralink from Elon Musk.

00:41:51.29
Flav: ah Yeah, yeah. I watched Mass last night, did you?

00:41:54.14
Ricky: Yeah, and he's come out again with his Neuralink saying that they they've they've created this chip for the brain and he was he was saying it can give humans godlike powers.

00:42:08.14
Flav: does that even mean?

00:42:09.34
Ricky: Well, I mean, it sounds good. I'm sold. I want a Neuralink.

00:42:15.31
Flav: He's an odd man.

00:42:16.38
Ricky: He is an odd man.

00:42:18.54
Flav: It's weird. He can do some really good stuff. like The Neuralink stuff is, I think that's the next step, right? the next thing of in evolving as a human being is using technology to make our lives better.

00:42:29.94
Flav: But especially people have suffered injury and in making their life better, that's such a good thing. But then he's just gone mental and bought Twitter.

00:42:35.77
Ricky: He was saying…

00:42:38.12
Flav: That's where it all started to wrong, I think, when he bought Twitter. Yeah.

00:42:42.36
Ricky: people that cur that have never been able to see can see again people that have never been able to walk can walk that that's that's what he's claiming and it's all types of things like that so I was like okay fair enough right let's move on from that I want to say another kind of inexplicable thing the beast of Bodmin Moor do you know of this

00:42:49.82
Flav: Is that true? Yeah.

00:43:09.02
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:10.46
Ricky: For decades, people in Cornwall have claimed to see a giant black panther roaming the moors. Livestock deaths, blurry photos, mysterious track.

00:43:22.07
Ricky: And it's, you know, they call it Britain's answer to Bigfoot. Now, we are, I would say we're both kind of um wildlife enthusiasts.

00:43:34.81
Ricky: Not to the point where we're like writing down about birds and shit like that, but… How pro plausible is Big Cats on moors in England?

00:43:45.20
Flav: I think not very plausible.

00:43:48.86
Ricky: Do you not think?

00:43:48.82
Flav: I mean, not no. You would find skulls or you'd find bones, right? You'd find evidence of it.

00:44:00.76
Flav: There might be cats, at ah a big cat, and someone's gone back to the pub and gone, I've just seen this. you know It just gets embeett embellished. But um what are we talking about?

00:44:07.29
Ricky: Yeah.

00:44:11.29
Flav: Like an escaped jaguar or something like that

00:44:14.74
Ricky: yeah I mean, i don't know. i So ah I went for a walk down the river yesterday. Something caught the corner of my eye. It looked like a cat, a black cat, green eyes, but a lot bigger, like straight up before even this. And carry on looking through, like staring through the bushes and stuff like that. And I didn't see it, but it did feel at that time that I'd seen something quite big.

00:44:39.19
Ricky: obviously mind paying tricks on me i also remember actually when i fucking haven't thought about this in years i went to a wedding and it was in these lovely manor grounds right and whilst i was there i was very inebriated i had some had a little puff of the mary joanna and

00:44:58.97
Flav: o I've

00:45:00.98
Ricky: The lad I was with, we saw this rabbit, right? And everyone was… to ah We thought it was a rabbit, but this rabbit was, like, supersized. It was the biggest rabbit I've ever seen.

00:45:12.86
Flav: seen those massive ones.

00:45:12.99
Ricky: it It was like a dog, honestly. it was It was genuinely like a dog. And people were saying, what you've seen is a monk jack deer. They're everywhere here.

00:45:23.48
Flav: ah Yeah, yeah.

00:45:24.92
Ricky: But I swear I saw a big rabbit. Like, I could have… If someone said… On your family's life, did you see a monk jack deer or a rabbit? I would have said, it was a rabbit.

00:45:34.07
Flav: I didn't know what monk deer was before I moved down here. was like, um ah ah don't they don't look like rabbits, to be fair. You can say like a small dog or something like that. They definitely don't look like a rabbit.

00:45:46.49
Ricky: Yeah, but yeah I was fucked up as well, so

00:45:48.94
Flav: All right. I was just, it was interesting. um i was just looking that the the kind of reasons for the but the beast of Bodmin and why it exists, people think it was like a massive black cat, like a ah like a leopard or a jaguar or or a puma.

00:46:06.78
Ricky: Yeah.

00:46:07.48
Flav: It says, before the list this legislation, it was legal to keep exotic big cats as pets in the yeah UK before 1976's Dangerous Wild Animals Act. When the strict licensing laws were implemented, some owners chose to release their pumas or leopards into the wild to avoid them by being euthanised.

00:46:25.00
Flav: Zoo directors have claimed since claimed that packs of pumas may have been released from regional menageries during this era. So there may have been big cats that people released in Cornwall who have since died and the the sort of that the story goes on there's apparently in 1995 the Fowey skull less than a week after the government denial a boy discovers a large cat skull on the banks of the river Fowey excitement peaks until the natural history movement determines it belongs to an imported leopard skin rug yeah

00:46:55.40
Ricky: Here we go.

00:47:05.05
Ricky: okay Well, think i think

00:47:08.09
Flav: most of these things are bullshit in there

00:47:09.88
Ricky: Yeah. Have you ever heard of the um the story of um in Afghanistan, the the the giant men, the giant people that live in live in the caves?

00:47:21.00
Flav: Yeah.

00:47:22.60
Ricky: So there is this, I mean, it's exactly what that is. i don't know too much about it, but there is these kind of like, um it's known to the people of Afghan,

00:47:27.13
Flav: yeah

00:47:32.18
Ricky: that there are giant men, like 10 foot, 12 foot men that live in these caves. And they've been seen, they've been spotted, they've been photographed. And apparently when they there's a case when ah America and Britain invaded Afghanistan, that one of these men were actually captured and taken away.

00:47:53.98
Ricky: But, you know, he's probably living in Area 51 with the UFOs scotching there.

00:47:59.35
Flav: Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of bullshit.

00:48:03.33
Ricky: Bullshit. Right. Okay.

00:48:04.44
Flav: what about

00:48:04.62
Ricky: Fair enough.

00:48:05.24
Flav: What about um about Bigfoot? Bullshit as well, isn't it?

00:48:09.53
Ricky: Well, do you sit ye think, you think?

00:48:11.50
Flav: Yeah. They'd have more than… They'd have more… They'd have more fucking evidence if he exists. It's a giant fucking grizzly bear thing walking around the woods. Of course it's not. They would have seen it again.

00:48:26.90
Ricky: but yeah What about the, uh, the tracks, the paws, the hair that they found? all these different things. But I kind of like with Bigfoot, I am more of the um kind of thinking that it's it's a bit of a hoaxy type, bear type.

00:48:47.54
Ricky: i don't I don't really believe Bigfoot exists.

00:48:50.26
Flav: No, like the video, you remember the video from, it was just a bloke in a suit walking.

00:48:54.26
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:56.50
Flav: People want to believe, they want to be amazed and they want something to they want the unknown to be real because it gives them faith that there might be something else.

00:49:07.19
Flav: um But it's nonsense, isn't it? Like the Loch Ness Monster, Loch Ness Monster, also complete nonsense.

00:49:10.55
Ricky: Right, okay, what about…

00:49:15.50
Ricky: Don't say that.

00:49:16.02
Flav: What it is!

00:49:18.87
Ricky: Can it not be hiding in the depths of the lock?

00:49:21.64
Flav: It is quite deep, as they say.

00:49:23.22
Ricky: Yeah, it's very deep. I think they've done… It's weird, isn't it, right, how… it's I kind of feel like it's like wrestling, that it's we kind of know that it's not there…

00:49:36.25
Ricky: but we're making believe to carry on tradition, tourism, like, yeah, well, it's not hurting anyone, is it?

00:49:42.18
Flav: It's quite a nice, isn't it? It's a nice thing to believe in. I wouldn't… Not really. And you want it to be real. or I used to be fascinated with it a lot this monster when I was a kid. Loved it.

00:49:51.83
Ricky: Yeah.

00:49:53.11
Flav: um So, yeah, and it's it creates industry, local industry. And every now and then you get and another a picture or someone's seen a shape and everyone gets excited.

00:50:03.87
Ricky: I like it.

00:50:04.50
Flav: Yeah, i mean, there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it.

00:50:07.00
Ricky: ah I think there's been some pretty extensive scientific research of radars bouncing and scanning lake beds and stuff like that where…

00:50:14.90
Flav: yeah yeah Yeah, they can scan the whole fucking thing.

00:50:17.24
Ricky: Yeah, where that I don't think he might be hiding. Okay, what about this one?

00:50:21.99
Flav: Go on.

00:50:23.06
Ricky: ah The Dyatlov Pass incident, right?

00:50:27.79
Flav: Go on, don't know what that is.

00:50:28.70
Ricky: Okay. Nine experienced this happened in Russia. Nine experienced hikers fled their tent barefoot in sub-zero temperatures before mysteriously dying in the mountains. Strange injuries, missing tongues, and radiation traces.

00:50:48.48
Ricky: It's one of the most creepiest unsolved cases ever. Like, what happened there? i mean, it's like… That's, that okay, that's that's no ghost.

00:51:01.62
Flav: Yeah.

00:51:01.81
Ricky: That's no fucking Bodmin Moor. And this, nine hikers, sub-zero conditions, left their tent, everything was on fire, everything was going nice, found barefoot, tongues missing.

00:51:19.39
Flav: I don't know.

00:51:20.28
Ricky: You don't know.

00:51:21.11
Flav: but what I don't think it's a ghost, but ah something bad happened to him for sure. Like, did you see the other day, which is a bit more based in reality? Did that actually happen?

00:51:31.52
Flav: It 100% happened.

00:51:31.90
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:51:33.78
Flav: What's it called?

00:51:34.68
Ricky: ah I can't pronounce it. D-Y-A-T-L-O-V.

00:51:38.86
Flav: D-Y.

00:51:42.33
Ricky: Pass. Incident.

00:51:45.37
Flav: um Did you see a man was prosecuted for leaving his wife on the top of a hill where when the weather came in and she died? And he went to get help.

00:51:52.92
Ricky: What?

00:51:55.70
Flav: Just recently, is because he left his wife to die, basically.

00:52:00.70
Ricky: That's mean, isn't it?

00:52:01.91
Flav: but Someone's got go and get help.

00:52:04.44
Ricky: Oh, is that what happened?

00:52:05.78
Flav: I don't know the details of it. Anyway, Detelov Pass incident. The Detelov Pass incident is one of the most famous unsolved mysteries in the 20th century. In February 1959, nine experienced heisters from the Ural Polytechnic Institute died in northern Ural Mountains under bizarre and terrifying circumstances.

00:52:22.78
Flav: Their expedition was led by Igor Detelov. yeah tiatlov which is why the Arabian was known as the Dyatlov Pass. The group set up camp on the slope of the mountain called Kalyat Shackle.

00:52:39.29
Flav: The name roughly translates from the local Mansi language as Dead Mountain. and the hunkers When the hikers failed to return, search parties found their tent cut open from the inside. Footprints showing they'd fled barefoot or lightly dressed in freezing temperatures.

00:52:55.67
Flav: Bodies scattered across the snow and forest. Some of the victims appearing to have died of hypothermia. Others with severe internal injuries including crushed ribs and skull fractures. One woman was missing her tongue. Traces of radiation was found on some clothing.

00:53:14.39
Ricky: I mean, that is tough to explain, isn't it?

00:53:15.28
Flav: Tough to explain.

00:53:18.30
Flav: Some of the theories are… ah

00:53:22.97
Flav: A avalanche.

00:53:25.72
Ricky: What?

00:53:26.81
Flav: Yeah. Caused panic in the tent, forcing them to escape quickly in brutal conditions in 2021 Russian authorities officially concluded the avalanche was the likely cause.

00:53:38.14
Ricky: I don't know if I believe that.

00:53:41.05
Flav: Well…

00:53:41.22
Ricky: Traces of radiation. It's got to be like the Incredible Hulk type of person walking around Russia, going through people's tents, stealing their tongues, crushing their chests.

00:53:48.70
Flav: Well, an avalanche would explain it wouldn't it?

00:53:52.91
Ricky: See? Yeah, I've got it. Nailed it. Done.

00:53:55.90
Flav: Hulk. all Alright, you're saying the Hulk I'm going with an avalanche as well.

00:53:58.90
Ricky: Right, fine. Fair enough.

00:54:00.32
Flav: Well,

00:54:01.55
Ricky: We've got a few more here. ah that Actually, that there is one. This this isn't like a… It's just a weird freak one that I saw, which I quite liked. So this is the the Navajo blanket.

00:54:15.61
Ricky: A man watching an episode of Antiques Roadshow noticed a Navajo blanket that closely resembled an an heirloom that his grandmother left him.

00:54:27.32
Ricky: The textile had simply sat in his closet for many years, completely forgotten. After seeing the television show appraise a similar blanket for 300,000…

00:54:40.98
Ricky: he quickly decided to get his own item properly authenticated. Experts confirmed its immense historical value as a rare first ah chief's blanket.

00:54:55.16
Ricky: He put it up for auction where it stalled for $1.5 million. dollars

00:55:00.26
Flav: Oh, shit.

00:55:01.30
Ricky: Can you imagine what watching fucking Antiques Roadshow, right? And you're like, babe, we got one of those, didn't we? oh gee it's it in the wardrobe? I can't get it. And then, like, this guy was on dis disabilities. He was poor as fuck. He was, like, really, like, living through it.

00:55:19.26
Ricky: And then that he's got that in his wardrobe. 1.5 milli.

00:55:24.51
Flav: That's incredible.

00:55:25.88
Ricky: That is incredible.

00:55:25.82
Flav: It's like a dream, isn't It was like when your your sister found like a tin with loads of old 20 pound note banknotes.

00:55:33.88
Ricky: Yeah, thousands in the new house he just moved into. She took to a bank, changed it up, kept it.

00:55:37.34
Flav: what what What did she do in the end?

00:55:42.39
Flav: So they they allowed us to exchange old currency?

00:55:44.57
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:45.69
Flav: Interesting. like I don't know what what happens then. Does that, like, do they just take that off? Where does that, I guess they just create new money, don't they?

00:55:52.70
Ricky: Yeah.

00:55:52.67
Flav: don't know. Cause we've got loads of, if anyone knows what to do with this, um we've got loads of old Swiss bank notes that are out of date.

00:56:04.06
Flav: And we'll say loads, probably about 500 quid's worth. But ah b UK banks don't take them. No one takes them. So not quite sure what to do.

00:56:13.62
Ricky: We've got, um like, my missus old man, he was in the Merchant Navy.

00:56:20.60
Flav: Yeah.

00:56:21.34
Ricky: when he was younger so he's been to all these countries all around the world so he's got loads of different currency like loads not we're not talking like loads of money in monetary value but as in he's just got loads of old pennies and this and that from south africa from fucking japan from wherever it's pretty cool like some of it must be worth money i i expect but um yeah we don't know what to do with either but what do you do with that

00:56:50.11
Flav: I've got to go to SNB cashier's office in in Zurich.

00:56:57.73
Flav: Or I can post cash for coins. That doesn't sound ah sound good, does it?

00:57:05.22
Ricky: You ain't getting that. what

00:57:07.57
Flav: says cash for coins, post Swiss franc banknotes. using Royal Mail Tracks to secure a courier and they will transfer the valuation straight into your bank account.

00:57:18.83
Ricky: Nah.

00:57:18.84
Flav: called Cash for Coins.

00:57:20.31
Ricky: Nah. They'll never do that. there Sorry, Mr. Flavreau, the money never arrived.

00:57:24.18
Flav: Yeah. is

00:57:28.18
Flav: Yeah, we're called Cash for Coins.

00:57:30.04
Ricky: Yeah.

00:57:30.58
Flav: That's what I should say at the end. the phone down. All right. all right

00:57:36.47
Ricky: the The last one that i'll ah that is a bit of a weird one as well. ah The David Sneddon vanishing. In 2004, 24-year-old American student David Sneddon vanished while hiking solo through Yunnan province in southern China.

00:57:56.22
Ricky: don't pronounced that correctly. Leading officials to presume he had died. However, a stunning twist emerged in 2016 When South Korean intelligence uncovered evidence indicating he was actually alive, reports revealed that Northern Korean agents had abducted Sneddon to serve a specific regime purpose.

00:58:21.98
Ricky: He was allegedly forced to live in Pyongyang and become the personal English tutor for the young Kim Jong-un. This bizarre kidnapping case exposed to very shocking international reach of state-sponsored abductions. you imagine that?

00:58:39.67
Ricky: In 2004, you go missing, your family think you're dead, you're in some foothills in China. Then 2016, there's rumours that you're still alive and you've been commandeered by norfo korea North Korea having to fucking teach English.

00:58:54.41
Flav: Mm-hmm.

00:58:56.89
Ricky: you're not even an English teacher. What am I doing here? He's teaching me English. Mate, I can just talk.

00:59:01.97
Flav: I want to live.

00:59:02.58
Ricky: I can just speak. like What do you want from me?

00:59:05.37
Flav: um I've got one for you.

00:59:07.06
Ricky: Good.

00:59:07.58
Flav: Ho Van Lang, known as the real-life Tarzan, lived in the deep forest of central Vietnam's Quang Nguyen

00:59:16.95
Ricky: Go on.

00:59:18.49
Flav: province for over 40 years. He fled into the jungle with his father, Ho Van Tar, in 1972 after US bombing during the Vietnam War called several members of their family. summary of their incredible survival story covers the following milestones so they lived in isolation for 40 years because they thought the war was still going on

00:59:39.64
Ricky: Fuck.

00:59:40.43
Flav: hmm

00:59:41.34
Ricky: did and what and Did he know when he come out? Did he die there? What happened?

00:59:47.10
Flav: I think he died of liver cancer at 52.

00:59:49.80
Ricky: Oh, that's a shame.

00:59:50.74
Flav: um Hiro Anuda, Japanese Imperial Army soldier who stayed on the Lubang Island in the Philippines for 29 years after World War II concluded, believing the war was not over. He refused to surrender until his former commander formally relieved him of duty in 1974. 29 Yeah. Yeah.

01:00:08.57
Flav: twenty nine years

01:00:08.73
Ricky: that

01:00:12.23
Ricky: That's fucking mental. Can you imagine you calling out to him?

01:00:14.01
Flav: yeah

01:00:16.47
Ricky: David, the war's over. No, no, no, not until, right, years go past have to get his former boss to come back to go to the island.

01:00:19.70
Flav: No.

01:00:24.50
Ricky: It's over, David. Oh, right. Okay, fine, fine. As you said it, I'll do it. Right, okay. Those have been some ah inexplicable stories, which I want to believe, but I think, you know, Flav's a skeptic until he gets bummed out by a poltergeist tonight.

01:00:42.03
Ricky: What time did you say? 3 o'clock? 3 a.m.

01:00:44.05
Flav: 3am. Yeah, let me know. hit Hit me up.

01:00:45.31
Ricky: 3 a.m. Good.

01:00:45.87
Flav: Hit me up.

01:00:46.81
Ricky: Here you go.

01:00:46.84
Flav: up There's a couple of good news around the world. you want some good news from around the world?

01:00:51.54
Ricky: Hell yeah, I do.

01:00:52.66
Flav: Malaria vaccine shows real-world life-saving impact.

01:00:56.50
Ricky: good

01:00:57.11
Flav: um Who updates that the RTS malaria vaccine helped avert an estimated one in eight child deaths among eligible children?

01:01:09.31
Flav: How about the vaccines? Don't take the vaccines. Oh, my God. Fuck's sake. Two, kiwi birds return to New Zealand, the New Zealand capital after a century away.

01:01:22.95
Ricky: Oh, that's nice.

01:01:24.28
Flav: yep ah Brazil's Atlantic forest shows its lowest deforestation in 40 years.

01:01:32.35
Ricky: Good.

01:01:33.07
Flav: That's good. ah The world has passed a milestone for ocean protection.

01:01:40.00
Flav: 10% of the ocean is now officially within protected or conserved areas up from 8.6 in 2024.

01:01:47.19
Ricky: good

01:01:47.14
Flav: That's good. Yep. ah Electric trucks are having a breakout moment. Global led by China.

01:01:56.44
Ricky: I mean, that's good.

01:01:57.87
Flav: Yep. Yep.

01:01:58.84
Ricky: but But do we boo it because, you know, it's China.

01:02:01.27
Flav: China. China. ta China.

01:02:02.62
Ricky: but Yeah, we we we we have China.

01:02:03.14
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:05.54
Ricky: China.

01:02:05.72
Flav: ah yeah um ah yeah All right. Okay. Let's do it. Okay.

01:02:08.82
Ricky: No, no, no, not saying it.

01:02:10.23
Flav: All right.

01:02:10.58
Ricky: what It's what we, what we what we ah you know, what we're led to believe.

01:02:10.95
Flav: No, let's celebrate. Let's celebrate.

01:02:14.13
Flav: Yeah, we'll celebrate.

01:02:14.80
Ricky: China's bad.

01:02:14.75
Flav: We'll celebrate. Yeah, China.

01:02:17.27
Ricky: I say celebrate it.

01:02:17.43
Flav: Right. Celebrate. celebrate.

01:02:19.52
Ricky: Celebrate Okay, good. Good. That was good.

01:02:22.11
Flav: Good.

01:02:22.89
Ricky: That's good. Good news roundup. Okay. We are going to be going on to dilemmas and the dilemma is called follow my dreams, but which dream?

01:02:33.46
Ricky: And then we've got something only, you know, Greek petting zoo. The topic for next week is going to be Amsterdam.

01:02:44.86
Ricky: Amsterdam. We fortunately, we, we have a, an Amsterdam pro.

01:02:45.72
Flav: I need to go back. Yeah.

01:02:50.07
Ricky: Flav. ah

01:02:51.03
Flav: do

01:02:52.79
Ricky: So what it is now, what it was, the sex, the drugs, the stags, and everything in between, the history, the canals, you name it.

01:03:05.88
Ricky: Amsterdam is a magnificent place. Been there twice. Had a boo. I'd love to go again, actually, but as a more of a, as an adult, like actually you'll you'll do a lot more explaining about because you have been there many times.

01:03:17.89
Flav: I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going to Amsterdam with you.

01:03:20.69
Ricky: No, that's fair.

01:03:21.03
Flav: I would love to, but you'd just be fucking walking around everywhere. I'm like, let's sit down. Let's take some mushrooms.

01:03:26.65
Ricky: Yeah.

01:03:27.56
Flav: Let's just, you know have a spliff, drink some beer.

01:03:29.18
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

01:03:30.26
Flav: You'll be going to No, but I need to see Anne Frank's house. I have to go to Anne Frank's

01:03:33.46
Ricky: oh I was going to do that joke.

01:03:34.01
Flav: Do you? Do you? What?

01:03:35.67
Ricky: Yeah, I said I was going to that joke.

01:03:37.21
Flav: All right. so I know you.

01:03:37.69
Ricky: yeah yeah exactly do yeah how long are these mushrooms going to take like how long do i trip for because at 10 past four we we're both booked in to have a vip tour of and frank's and you'll be like

01:03:39.34
Flav: It's not a joke. You would definitely want to go there.

01:03:51.86
Flav: I wouldn't mind tripping and walking around. That would be right. Do both. You do a bit for me and I'll do a bit for you.

01:03:57.05
Ricky: yeah okay yeah yeah yeah that's fine that's fine

01:04:00.63
Flav: take more and Take more of these, Ricky.

01:04:02.71
Ricky: so if you

01:04:03.72
Flav: All One more house.

01:04:04.79
Ricky: If you've got any fun stories on Amsterdam or anything that, you know, is off the beaten track that you've ever visited in Amsterdam, send it in to ladsanonpod at gmail.com and we will, of course, read it out.

01:04:04.86
Flav: One more.

01:04:20.95
Ricky: Now, we are going to be going on to Dilemmas. Where is the jingle? Um… um

01:04:29.05
Flav: You don't know the jingle, Rick. Do it. The button.

01:04:31.36
Ricky: Oh, don't know which one it is.

01:04:33.02
Flav: Try. Just guess one.

01:04:34.07
Ricky: Right, okay, that one.

01:05:04.61
Ricky: That's such a fucking good jingle.

01:05:06.72
Flav: It's good, isn't it?

01:05:08.23
Ricky: Follow my dreams, but which dream? Hi Ricky and Flav. Sorry for the late reply. Been trying to keep myself off social media with current events going on and all the racism, etc.

01:05:24.89
Ricky: I would prefer to keep this anonymous if possible, but to be honest, don't care if you do read my name out. You know the show. This is our 150th episode. We have never dropped, ever dropped anyone's name.

01:05:39.70
Ricky: Ever. That didn't want to be mentioned. Anyone else listen to this? If you have a dilemma, something only you know, we will never, ever mention your name. Lads Anonymous, it's in the name. You are kept anonymous.

01:05:51.70
Ricky: Basically, the dilemma I have is one you've already spoken about on the pod regarding careers. When I was 17, I had a couple of weeks work experience with my old man and quickly realized that was my dream job. My dad is my idol and I aspire to be like him.

01:06:08.50
Ricky: After the work experience, I went and yeah i went to the interview stage, where which ended up going down to the final four, in which required to undergo two interviews. But unfortunately, I wasn't given the job as I was in 18, and they needed to hire two females to reach the male-to-female workplace ratio.

01:06:30.97
Ricky: Fast forward to now, my old man is due to retire next year and has offered my brothers and me the opportunity to fill in his shoes. However, I'm worried now that from 17 to 25 years old, I've not really done much in my life and probably lost countless brain cells through booze and drugs. My old man is selling the job in the worst way possible because it's a hell of a lot of commitment. The hours are quite unsociable, but the returns in terms of money are absolutely unreal.

01:07:03.90
Ricky: My issues are that I don't believe i can pass the FCA or FSCA exam. And I've also finally, after several years of chopping and changing jobs, not holding one down longer than three months, I finally found my feet. and have been working with my boss for a year now, and have aspirations of going in on my own and starting my own business, in brackets, window cleaning, but also have several other ideas to go with the business that my boss doesn't and really ah feels I can't truly succeed in. As I say, my dad's job…

01:07:40.22
Ricky: brackets, stockbroker, like the Wolf of Wall Street, trading metals, etc. is probably my dream job and has very lucrative pay. But I don't know whether to chase my dream of being my own boss, having my own business, or to chase the dream job that might not even be around in a few years. So my question is, do I follow my dream job dreams or my dream of being my own boss and running my own business?

01:08:11.86
Flav: ah

01:08:15.67
Flav: I mean, i can only tell you that my life improved when I started working for myself rather than someone else.

01:08:22.49
Ricky: Yeah.

01:08:23.03
Flav: And the freedom that I have still have remained to this day and not having to feed into anyone. I'm not essentially making money for someone else. The fact is if you're employed at a company, you should be making them more money than you cost.

01:08:39.79
Flav: That's the whole point.

01:08:39.86
Ricky: Yeah.

01:08:41.56
Flav: So that means your value is greater, certainly certainly with the support you've been given, than you're being paid. So that always sort of… I understood it. That's the way it's their job.

01:08:51.83
Flav: They create an opportunity for you that you wouldn't otherwise have. But my experience with it was… um As soon as I went on my own, I i became a lot happier and more content. Stop brokering, I'd imagine it's quite a stressful job.

01:09:08.82
Flav: So um why not try out for a year? um where Why not try out you know working for yourself for a year if it is window cleaning? Barriers to entry is quite low, right? So yeah try it out for a year. If you don't like it, then go and do the stop brokering or the all the other way around.

01:09:27.19
Ricky: Yeah.

01:09:28.18
Flav: I don't think you can lose here.

01:09:29.82
Ricky: ah Yeah. ah Like my initial thought of… your dad's your idol and you want to follow in his footsteps. You also kind of want to please, you know, your dad as well.

01:09:41.53
Ricky: Uh, as we all do, we you know, we look for those, um, kind of the adulation from your father, but is it your dream job? And is it not your dad's dream job? That's the, that's where I kind of feel like you need to ask yourself those questions.

01:10:00.56
Ricky: Um, And you've spoken about how lucrative it is. um Are you just, you know, married to the idea that you're going to have a fuckload of money because it may not even work out that way with all the pressures and stuff like that.

01:10:18.81
Ricky: And again, you've said, you know, your you your other dream is being your own person, having your own business.

01:10:18.98
Flav: Mm-hmm.

01:10:25.08
Ricky: an again, i know it's a bit cop-outy, but what, as humans, it's a nice thing to be like, what do you do for a living? I have my own business. I work for myself, ah which is great. But the kind of reality of it is ah how do you get there and how you just how do you sustain it and how do you be consistent in it and how do you still enjoy doing it?

01:10:49.18
Ricky: um

01:10:51.93
Ricky: I think, what you know, like what Flav was saying, that like even if you um you were saying that you're nervous about passing the fca and fsca don't you carry on doing your business now the window cleaning and then do those exams and if you do fail those exams doesn't matter how you still got the window cleaning and if you do pass them then maybe take a year out of window cleaning it's going to be there when you get back and try and do the stockbroker thing that would be my only

01:11:07.67
Flav: yeah Yeah, study for him.

01:11:22.81
Ricky: but my only kind of bit of advice, think about what it is that, is it what you want or is it what your dad wanted for you? and are you wedded to the the more, the money side of it being a stockbroker or is it, you know, your true calling and the whole kind of your own business thing and working for yourself.

01:11:44.48
Ricky: It's, it is a wonderful thing.

01:11:45.78
Flav: This sends shivers down my my spine. The recruitment process for FCAs. The process consists of four main stages with the assessment centre being the most challenging hurdle.

01:12:00.15
Flav: Online tests, you must complete logical, numerical and situational judgment tests. The logical and and analytical tests are considered the most demanding sections. You're obsessed on how well you understand the FCA's core purpose and regulatory goals.

01:12:13.66
Flav: You must give structured answers and link your reasoning to consumer protection and market integrity. I'm like, fuck this, man.

01:12:19.96
Ricky: yeah fuck Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:20.05
Flav: I'm going to do the i'm gonna do the old window cleaning.

01:12:23.80
Ricky: Yeah, exactly.

01:12:25.66
Flav: No, mate, do Ricky's advice about doing the window cleaning and on the side study for your FCA's and then you've got both.

01:12:25.94
Ricky: Yeah.

01:12:31.54
Flav: You're doing both things. You're satisfying both things.

01:12:33.85
Ricky: Yeah. There you go. that's ah That's our advice. I hope you find it helpful. We are now going to go into ah something only you know, and it's called Greek petting zoo.

01:12:51.68
Ricky: Back in the late ninety s early 2000s, I worked in Kavos for five years as a bar manager. Now, all the workers who worked in Kavos for the summer had but had a family mentality and all got along with ah so so the lads.

01:13:07.83
Ricky: And it was all shagging birds, drinking and playing pranks on each other. One of my mates, who will stay nameless, obviously, but we'll call him Bob,

01:13:18.74
Ricky: used to work on a party boat and would leave in the morning around 10am taking party going tourists to a lovely island with a blue lagoon.

01:13:26.48
Flav: Nice.

01:13:27.13
Ricky: They would spend the day there having barbecues, water sports and drinking games a great day out. Bob had left on the boat for his daily boat trip and off he sailed not due back until around 5pm. I was sitting around the pool with a couple of other workers when we had the idea of kidnapping a couple of chickens and putting them in his room for when he got back.

01:13:50.74
Ricky: This would be hilarious! So off we went in our van to find some chickens in the next village down. We found a little farm looking place and had a look about for some chickens. After chasing them around, ah ah around some chicken, for what seemed like hours, we managed to grab three of of the little buggers, shut the van doors and off we went back to Kavos.

01:14:15.19
Ricky: Now on the way home, we saw a goat on the side of the road and had the idea of grabbing the goat as well. It was tied to a post, so we literally just untied the goat and led it to the van.

01:14:26.81
Ricky: Easy peasy. We got back and got the spare key, which Bob hid just outside his apartment. We ushered in the goat and pretty much threw the chicken in the apartment and shut the door. We all went to the pub down the road, all chuffed ourselves like little schoolboys laughing our heads off.

01:14:43.54
Ricky: It got to about 4pm and we decided to grab a few ah Zeds before we started work at 7pm and await the arrival of Bob. Unbeknown to us, it had been really rough at sea as a storm was coming in, so the boat was delayed getting back by a few hours.

01:15:01.85
Ricky: We were at work and Bob walked in swearing and looking like a beetroot red with anger. He'd opened the door and the goat ran at him and headbutted him. The chickens were flapping about and there was shit and piss everywhere.

01:15:16.63
Ricky: The goat had eaten loads of his clothes and Bob was not a happy man. Even to today, Bob does not know who turned his apartment into a petting zoo. Love you guys. Love the pod.

01:15:29.18
Ricky: Flav, you're in my ear constantly on my post rounds. Lads and on. Overlap. Football between the lines. The lab. The fighting cock.

01:15:37.46
Flav: ah

01:15:38.17
Ricky: And that is something only I know.

01:15:40.77
Flav: God bless you, mate.

01:15:41.62
Ricky: ah God, ah I was going to tell a story about Cabos, but I can't tell that one here. Uh, I will tell you after Flav, um, and people in, in, uh, the lads patron discord, I will, I'll tell you in there as well.

01:15:50.64
Flav: Okay. All right.

01:16:01.47
Ricky: Um,

01:16:03.54
Ricky: that's been, that's been this week's for, for lads anonymous. Thank you for listening. Uh, if you want to become a patron and you want this podcast out today, Friday, ad free video three days before the normies.

01:16:16.60
Ricky: And obviously I just mentioned the discord that you can jump in and chat with everyone else. I'm there every single day twerking for you.

01:16:26.03
Ricky: Patron.com slash lads, anon pod. Next week, the topic is Amsterdam. Get your stories in ladsanonpod at gmail.com.

01:16:38.07
Ricky: And until then, i hope you have a bloody wonderful week.

01:16:44.03
Flav: Cheers.