#23 | Ghosts and the Supernatural | wait until you hear these crazy stories!

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We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice, all handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast flap. How are you doing? Oh, spit on that thing. Right. I've been obsessed with this. I'm not obsessed over in, like, a sexual way. I am a little bit.

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I'm a little bit. It's just I it's playing through my head constantly. So what are we doing? We're about. So basically, you know, you see a lot of those vox vox pops on the streets. Yeah. Where people are asking specific questions and shit like that. And there is a guy it's in America, and I believe from the accents, it must be the South.

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Definitely. And a guy says to a girl, name a move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time, and her reply is, you got to give him that hook to spit on that thing. You get me. And then she does a gig off the track. So mate, is. Yeah, that makes like embarrassed laughing as well.

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It is fucking. Everyone must have seen it. They founder. They've made hats and merch now. Yeah, yeah I know I can't believe that the amount of accounts that, repurposing, remixing it. Then straight after t shirt hock took my get one, I got one, I do. I do have something to say about that whole thing though. Like people on the streets.

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It's weird if you are sober, going out talking to drunk girls, awesome sexually sexually motivated questions. That is weird to me. Like, you need to be careful about these people. They're like, yeah, suspect that you're walking sober. You're trying to catch people, get them to say something. So I go viral and I benefit from it. That could have destroyed her life.

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It I mean, you could tell by the way she said it was never going to because she's funny and she's clearly it was, you know, you just felt like she was in control of the of what was being said. And she was comfortable. It wasn't she. She's deleted all the social media. All right. So there you go. There you go.

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And then the other, the other example of that gentleman of telling that, kind of present are something that nobody else knows. And he admitted to sniffing his mum's knickers exactly when he was bad. Yeah. And the no point did these people who, who run these accounts and make this shit content go. Do you know what? We probably shouldn't exploit this person.

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They what? They actually walk away going, yes, we've got, we've got. Yeah. Fuck her, fuck him, we've got gold. And they are some of the worst parts of society. I mean, short of sort of like being criminals. They're down there with them, I think. I hate, I hate them, Ricky. And the worst one of all is when we get two couples and get them to go through each other's phones while they're being recorded.

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Have you seen that one? Yeah. No, I haven't. You told me about that, but I've not seen that one. They're that person who runs out. That's. He's all for me with pedophiles and sex cases. Wow. And people that do that. Yeah. That is that's pretty. It's rendered pretty mad are on the flip side, this is, this is going to sound pretty wet, but there is an Instagram.

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I think it's just Instagram, but there's an account called Cute in New York or cute in NYC or something like that. And he stops couples or people who he thinks couples and says, are you are you guys couples? And they say, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they do this small interview. How did you meet each other? See, that's your favorite thing about each other and stuff.

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And it's so wholesome and lovely about how people are just so into each other in their own little bubble. And I love that content. Love it. Absolutely love it. But imagine you walking along and you've got this bloke and he's got a camera and he's got a video and he's gone. Right. What we need to do for my content is go for your wife phone of ten years, and I'm gonna video it all and put it up on my channel.

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I would, yeah, I would, I it would take everything in me to not strangle the life out of him. Scumbag vultures. Anyway, I, I just want to say I'm going to quickly do a little roundup, all right? That I had no idea how popular this topic was going to be. We've had we've had so many stories.

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So today's topic is ghosts. And the supernatural. I'm up. If you're up for it. I'm up for doing a longer one because I'm buzzing about this episode. Well, we'll just keep we'll keep on recording Rogan style. So many people have sent in loads of stuff and I just didn't know it was actually going to hit this way. But first, people who have messaged us about last week's episode, inadequacies.

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Thank you so much to the touching messages we've had in the DMs. People have even sent me whatsapps the feedback. It's been really positive and supportive. Some people, it's kind of shone a light on how they're inadequate and certain things and that they're eager to improve. Some people have been like, you've shone a light on my inadequacies. You're a dickhead.

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Thank you. But among I'm among it. It's been amazing. Got a lovely little, email reply from a gentleman. So episode 14 Health Anxieties, which is one of our most downloaded downloaded episodes. Is it really? So if you've got a pal that has health anxieties, please forward them the podcast link to that episode and just say, hey, thought of you.

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This may help with your current anxieties or it will give you a laugh. Nothing more than that. Just send it on to them and they'll appreciate it. But this person wrote in their dilemma and if you try and remember back, it was about a gentleman who liked a girl. She liked him. When he tried to speak to her, he tripped over his words, and he couldn't ever muster the courage to tell her that he that he liked her.

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So he replied, hi lads. I emailed in a few months ago about the girl I liked and was a bit awkward around episode 14 anyway, so I'd email in to say I saw her a few weeks ago and have been out on a few dates with her, and things are going well. Life was right up the way up in my head and didn't have the ball.

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So if anyone is in the same position, just go ahead and ask them because most of the time them they'll like you back. Cheers, boys. Yeah that's that's it's hardest with fear of rejection is massive right. But it's so yeah unnecessary. What's the worst she says no during the same exact position. All right. You might feel humiliated. She wouldn't make you feel humiliated unless you use a freak.

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Right. But generally, she's going to be flattered that someone finds her attractive. But she may not be as interested in you as you approach it in the right way. There's no I saw this. This isn't wholesome all. But I read something on Reddit and this bloke went, I didn't really have sex much and I wanted to have sex a lot more.

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And, so I just asked women if they like when I meet them, so a lot of fancy having sex of each and come back and have, like, brutally blunt. And he said you'd be amazed at the amount of people that just want to have sex, like out there all the time. There's people like this isn't carte blanche for men to just approach women, guy and I want sex.

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Don't do that. But I think that's there can be a misconception that that, You're the only one in the world wants to have sex and no one else does. Okay. There is. Surely there's an app. A sex app. Yeah, well, I woke up. Yeah. Fucking pervy men. No, it it's just men. They're. Yeah, they know the app.

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And it's for women. It's. The thing is, women don't need apps to hook up. I think this might be a bit of a, I might be a bit, you know, these these are wild assumptions. But I think most women know that most men want to have, you know, are interested in having sex, like when, you know, go who has male friends?

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Yeah. Typically the male friends would definitely have sex with their friend who's a go. Yeah, the girl might definitely not do that. So there's this kind of this idea that women, if a woman goes out and she wants to pull a bloke, she will absolutely be able to pull a bloke. If a man will go, I wanted to pull a woman.

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It's not guaranteed. I mean, it's very, very slim. Very slim. I'd say wouldn't. Yeah. I mean times might have changed a bit, I guess, how many Spotify followers were up to now. But when we like, cut them out, we had Cosmo cussing him out. It was like 749. How many like that? We're now up to 820. Is that good enough?

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No, it's not good enough. Not good enough. We know that thousands of people listen to this part right? Please go to Spotify. Type in lads. Anonymous. You'll see a bell icon. You'll see. Another icon there. I can't, I can't remember what it is. The cog icon, which is for automatic downloads. Then you'll see the three dots next to it.

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You click on those three dots and it says rate this show. Click the five stars. It's submitted. It's done. What if they don't? They obviously don't want to, Rick. Because we have to remind them every week and they're still not doing it. So they probably want to they might not be doing it that much gone up since last week.

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So it's just they just need a reminder. They might think it's not like like it ain't worth five stars and they don't want to give it four stars because it feels mean. That might be a I'm asking it was that now that they went into this, that they are into date now 20 free apps in. Right? Let's fucking get into this goes on the supernatural right before I start this ghost.

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Obviously I know what ghost is, but I wasn't quite educated. What supernatural was so supernatural? The term is attributed to nonphysical entities such as angels, demons, gods, and spirits. It also includes claimed abilities embodied in or provided by such beings, including magic, telekinesis, levitation, precognition, precognition, precognition, and extrasensory perception. I didn't know any of that. I just thought, like, actually, I feel supernatural.

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This is more like fucking Bigfoot and shit like that. Well, it is in no way do you believe in Bigfoot. No. I don't know why we'll go straight into this. So, do you know, first of all, flat. Do you believe in ghosts? No, no. Do you believe in the supernatural? Not in the way you've just described it.

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No. Right. Okay, so there's no. There's no such thing as magic. There are no ghosts. There's no afterlife. There's nothing. Okay, I, I am in a similar vein to you. So I don't believe in ghosts and the supernatural, but. Oh, I shouldn't already said that because there's a part of me that doesn't really want to put that out there, because they'll come and get me in hopes that they do accept love.

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That my town may be, well, good. If you use haunted, your house is haunted for me from a distance. You telling me shit what's going on? I would love that. Would I bring you out every time? What's happened? What's happened? Look, I'd be desperately unhappy. I don't think you would. What? You mean you'd be scared? Oh, mate. Massively.

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We're going to get into how fucking scared I used to be. Yeah, and this is just something only you know from me that no one on this planet. I've got one from my mum and the set from my sister. Right. I've got one that no one knows. Not even my misses of 20, 25 years. Now you say so this.

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You know this is going to fucking land. This is going to. Look, I've got I've got one of that. No, I've never told anyone ever in my life I forgot I've got even used to do it. But just quickly, just so people don't think that this is an entire episode of just blame the whole thing being poo poo.

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Morgan yeah, that's ballocks as ballocks that, innit? Right. Yeah. Because I've had I've had several things in my life that I cannot explain. The same connected to that, this, this, that, ghosts and, and that sort of thing. One of them. Amazing. Absolutely terrifying. Where do you think or where do you think all this shit comes from? Like, I think it's kind of for me, it's like ghosts and like, I think back in the day everything was a lot more religious, spiritual, and there was a belief that when we die, we go somewhere or something happens.

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And it's one of those things to ease people up. Their greatest fear of dying, which that's probably mine. So I think it's like generations of stories that keeps on getting passed down, passed down. But there's a lot of a lot less people going to church and stuff like that. No, but but but you you when you're a kid, you you'll go through a process of being self-aware and being aware that you, you exist in the world and you understand what death is and if you're asking questions about death, then you're going to start to drift into the world of ghosts and supernatural stuff and poltergeists and once you arrive at that place as a kid,

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you can't be anything but obsessed by it, because it's when you're 4 or 5 and up until some people are still terrified by them, as an adult. But when you're a kid and you sort of thing, you suddenly, oh, I realize what ghosts are. Now I know what this means. How can you not be terrified by that?

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Because it's it's a new understanding of what is reality. And so you can't see these people walking around, and occasionally you might see them and they might be interested in hurting you as a 4 or 5 year old is gut wrenchingly terrifying and something that is entrenched in you and all kids, I tell you what I would. I've I would love to be doing this podcast one day.

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And when I'm talking to just to see a man over your shoulder, an old man dressed in Victorian clothing, he just walked past the camera. Actually, I'm going to second. Isn't your building on edge? Yeah, yeah, there's some weird stuff. I didn't even think of that. I see there's some weird. So this this building I'm in now, you've got an office in.

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It's an old house. This this street, long Street in Devizes is the oldest street in Devizes. And this is this the Devizes as a town or a hamlet, whatever it was before, it's, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years old. My dad fucking stinks. Fucking guy. Well, I've been in here on my own and heard noises outside the.

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This is like at half seven at night. Everyone's gone home because that work. Not normal. 9 to 5 hours. I'm recording a podcast and of heard like banging on doors and stuff and things running around and just people moving about. No, that's weird. There's no two up. That's weird, because I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here gone outside.

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All the lights are off. It's all they're all motion it here. So if you walk into so people don't forget, it's like energy saving, right? If you don't forget to. Yeah. When you moved the lights in the rooms. Turn on and it's pitch black outside. And there's was definitely people moving out there. Oh, God. I couldn't say I couldn't go back to that office.

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I'd have to burn it down or something. I can't put it down. It's not mine. I'm also got a three year contract I can't lock. I've got a bit. Yeah, I don't I don't burn it down. So I'm just going to get straight into this. Ma'am, when you were younger, tell me about your experiences on and on a level of Skegness, because mine is probably probably like stratospherically scared what you see daily on the fire.

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You go into your bedroom at night to turn, to go to sleep, and at that point your brain would kick in a year. Yeah, pretty much, and I would, I would try and put off going to sleep as much as I possibly could to be in my bedroom alone with my little Transformers lamp still turned on, cos can't turn that, can't turn that off.

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But, when I was younger, my mum had to fix a lock on the inside of her bedroom door, because every single night I'd come out of my captain's bunk down the ladder, across the landing into her room and like and sleep her on her side of the bed. Did that every single night because I was so scared of ghosts.

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Poltergeist mainly. Yeah, because I knew they were the ones that got to come and get me. Polygraphs were definitely the scariest out of all of them. Yeah, they are fucking. They are the worst, absolute worst. So my mum had to fix a lock on the inside of her door to stop me from doing that. To keep me out.

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Because it was just. It wasn't not good. I just watched, Freddy Krueger and I was in it for the next three days, and then back to bed. I'd go and there'd be a reset. This was, like, every night for months. And how was you? I had I can't really remember my. It's, six, seven, 18, 19.

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Yeah, it would have been to round nine and I older than so I would it probably around 7 to 9 around then. And my sister, she also had a captain's bunk. Right. And so when my mum would lock me out of her room so I couldn't go there, it crawled out mine. I would tiptoe into my sister's room and climb up the back of her captain's bunk to top and sail with her.

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A lot of the times she was fast asleep and it was fine, and then other times she would wake up and be like, no, just go back to your own bed. Not be all writer. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Such. Slide down the captain's bunk. Sit in a ball at the foot of this captain's bunk. Wait for five minutes till she goes back to sleep.

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Crawl back up there, get back in her bed and just like, lock a little dog in a ball at her feet and just go to sleep for months, maybe even years. I was that scared of poltergeists and ghosts and all those stories. And I never really I never got out of it until maybe we moved house and only learned this afterwards.

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Like you'll find out through this podcast that a lot of my family, they've had a lot of experiences. But my sister, she always insists that she has a sixth sense when she goes into houses, when she goes to a restaurant or wherever that she can, she can feel something. Something isn't quite right now in my old house, she said she was having a bath.

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She had the door open, and she saw a figure walk across the London like in a periphery. She saw that she always felt that there was something in our house. When we moved out, we became friends with the with the people that took over our house. They had a young child and a child was in my sister's room, the cot.

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And when they were talking to my mum and my sister, he said that every time he goes in that it's cold, rest of the house is warm and it felt like someone or something was watching him. We didn't tell him about any of that and luckily my sister didn't fucking tell me that she saw this thing walk past the bathroom when she was having a bath.

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But it's those things, man. I'm just thought it feels weird talking about it because I was petrified and I was like, I'm not now this is a bar. At that point in my life, it was rank. Absolutely rank. Yeah. But as an adult, you're listening to that and you're going, well, she didn't see something. Oh, did she? There was a mind thinking

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Yeah. Maybe, maybe I said if you were there you still would be conscious of it. Yeah I'd be, I probably would probably. World that so common really. Not, not the the freezing cold room is something like everyone knows I wouldn't go, it's freezing, it goes cold and stuff like that. I've never experienced anything like that. I'm acutely aware of that.

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But every kid in every house thinks that their house is haunted to some degree, or at least questioned it. But when I was growing up, brick.

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I had a different level of I had a reason to to think that there were ghosts in the house, and that was in that my Alex, my little brother Alex. Hi. He's my half brother. Got to say mum, but he's dad was a promise. The tarot reader. Okay. Yeah. So people would go to him asking for help and people get confused about what a poem is.

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The tarot reading does. They don't tell your future and then go, this is they. They offer assistance and can give guidance. So in his instance, it was he was more like a spiritual guide than he was someone who was like, look into my crystal ball. It wasn't that. Yeah. But as a kid is don't sort of understand the nuance of it.

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And in my head there was like spirits and ghosts, and it was often spoken about in the house about things like supernatural, and that it wasn't like it wasn't it was almost like standard, like they would they would talk about a wicker chair. The Alex's dad would see a man sitting in that chair, and you'd hear a and he he would be able to see that he well, he he he he was psychic.

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So he would feel energy a lot. Right. And whether or not you believe that is up to you. But for the, for the what was a reality when I was a kid, is that. Yeah. He was he was a psychic and, and, so he could sense that. So he was a kid. You're kind of aware of it, so I'm like, I, I didn't want that.

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I didn't like that, right? I didn't I don't want that to be a reality. I was scared of that. But I never said anything. And if if, if it was true, they would come to him. They would say like they they would all go out. There'd be a queue of ghosts outside your house. What? I need you to do.

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Yeah. I don't, I don't think it's as simple as that other thing. It's I don't know. It's not. It isn't. The but the, But interestingly, nothing happened in the house. I lived there for a long time. Absolutely nothing happened. All of the scary shit happened in different houses. But what I used to do, this trick I used to do with.

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I was afraid. I'll tell you, this is the one thing only I know, right? Okay. I had a method of. Actually, before I tell you this, I'll tell you the first part because it kind of links. So when I was a kid, I was about 14 years old. I was in my, my, my grandfather's house in Birmingham, small house to, up to that.

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And, my grandmother died really suddenly in her sleep when she was 59. She had some she had heart issues, and she passed away in a sleep. Fuck. Yeah. Very harrowing thing because they went to bed together and woke up and she was gone. So I was always aware that that had happened. I was only a baby when it had.

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So I was always kind of kind of wary of the house, but not really. It wasn't like this, my nan. Right. So. And so do you do anything scary? And I was upstairs in bed. It was in the morning, maybe about 8:30, and I heard as clear as day. Repeat. It was is my granddad had passed away by that point as well actually I think.

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Yeah. You had in that same house. Well he passed away in hospital, but he lived in that house or maybe hadn't done it. Doesn't matter. It's irrelevant to the story. I heard clear as day a woman's voice say hello. How are you? And it was like she was next to me. Not. Not like it could have come from the TV.

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There was no radio on. There's nothing upstairs. There was no electrical equipment upstairs at all was my granddad's old house bedroom with with, wardrobes and whatever else you have in a bedroom there wasn't like, you know, now where you got fucking Amazon, you got, you know what they called. Yeah. Speakers and. Yeah. Yeah. There was no mobile phones then that didn't exist.

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Nothing electrical was up there, I heard it, I swear to God, I heard it, I do I know I've run from my from my, bedroom as fast as I could downstairs at the same time, a little brother, Alex. And you can ask him. You ask him this independent of me. And it would take. Well, we talk about it, but he'll tell you the same thing.

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He came running in and we both ran towards mum. We were different parts of the house and we both had the exact same experience at the exact same time. And he, he was downstairs watching television cartoons or something, and I was upstairs in bed. Now my mum, who is very open minded when it comes to spirituality and the afterlife and, you know, she's just she believes and she's open minded, whereas I'm quite cynical, closed minded.

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She said, don't worry. It was then it was, it was your nanny and she was just trying to say hello. And I was like, all right, I wanted to. Oh yes. Good. I don't hate that mum. Yeah. And she said, she said well she won't then if that's what you want. She would never do that. She would never want to scare you.

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And that made me feel better. But it also made me feel like comfort in that she was watching over us, you know, in a way. Right? Yeah. Anyway, that didn't scare me too much. It was frightening. But it's what my mum said about being like my nan, and she was lovely and stuff. I don't remember her, but that made me feel better.

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But then that obviously I still had an issue with ghosts and whatnot, and I used to go to bed. This is the thing only I know. I'd go to bed. And it was when I was in bed and everything was quiet and the house was quiet. That was when my mind would go into overdrive, overdrive for sure. And I what I would do is list off all of my dead relatives, all of them.

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Anyone who's been in my in my family, who died in my brain, I would list them off so I'd say, Andrew, Nanny Betty could. That's it. Uncle Bill, I can't remember all the others now. Some there was there was others. Was there an author? Got it off. Yeah. Yeah, they're off again. I said Nanny Becky.

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She died when I was really little. She. She died in our house. My dad's house, which actually links to another story. So she. Where my dad, you know, my dad's house. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the front room. She died in the corner of that room. She died in a bed there. And I'm pretty sure I found her as well.

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Anyway, so that I think I, I end up. I saw her as a ghost. I've come on to that. At some stage. So I would list off all of them and I would say, I know this is strange clothes, but I'm really scared of ghosts. And if there are any bad ones, can you just protect me? If the bad ones want to get me, could you just protect me?

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Because I think these come from my mum's at that. They've been looking over us. It's quite a nice thing as well. I just felt like building a little army of my dead relatives. The. The. They were going to fuck up whatever bad guy was trying to get me, and and genuinely, I put my head under the covers. I wouldn't take them out and fall asleep that way.

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And that's how I would as I would go to sleep. Mate, that's. Yeah. Again, I wish I'd known or had a little ritual like that. Mum is just fucking stay awake for as long as I could do you think something's going to happen to you when you was asleep? Is that why you wouldn't stay awake? I don't know, I don't know, I think, yeah, probably something was gonna happen to me while I was asleep or that I'd be woken up and it's still as night.

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It's dark. Is for I am still. Which is when it happens. Yeah, that's when it happens. Going back to what you're saying about, Alex, is that and very spiritual man. My grandparents on both sides. Absolutely fucking love church religion. Catholic. Weren't they Roman Catholic? Yeah. Like even I like we'd go every single Sunday to church. They would drag me some shit.

00:30:48:13 – 00:31:16:16
They might even have a cheeky little fucking Wednesday church up. Not, I mean, a little cheeky Wednesday. Okay, what are we doing? Let's go to church. Not. It's not Sunday. And I, but Wednesday. And then this shit. Stop. Yeah, but they were. Yeah. So they were deeply religious. Really kind of open to, spiritual. Supernatural. All of it.

00:31:16:18 – 00:31:42:14
My nan now, I don't it's it's, I believe it. But in the way that she spoke about it, I didn't really kind of I wasn't really there. But my grandparents, when they in the 80s, they retired and they moved out to Spain and they lived there ever since. So every summer holiday I'd go and stay with them. My granddad, Amnon, would have a sister in the afternoon.

00:31:42:16 – 00:32:31:04
Then about 4:00 I would go and lay in bed with them, and they would tell me stories about the old days back in India. My nan said to me that there was one time that this the community of where they were, were grouped around a woman who was on a rope swing, who was a witch, and she was swinging on this swing, cackling warts all over her face, twisted up face, kind of conjuring spells on people, but not as in, you know, black hat on a broomstick with a cat.

00:32:31:06 – 00:32:57:07
Not that kind of witch, but it was as close to a witch that you would see it in a human, I guess. But she said she ran away and everyone else ran away, and it was 100% a witch. And that stuck with me. Now, I don't believe this woman was a witch. I think someone looked like that. They maybe had some deformities, loads of wool.

00:32:57:07 – 00:33:25:05
So whatever it was and it was she. Maybe she was young and it was a scary time for her. So that that always stuck with me. She also said that she seen a relative. I think it may have been her brother who was leaning against the doorway. She saw the figure. He smiled, disappeared. And she told me that, told me these things.

00:33:25:05 – 00:33:52:23
And I was like, that, you know, that that is scary. But your brother, he's probably saying hello. And I was younger at this point, so I was like, that's fine. Then my granddad, he told me another story. So he used to work on the the railways in India, and he was walking back from his guard duties. And he was he do the same walk every single day.

00:33:52:23 – 00:34:19:15
And he'd walk past a cemetery, the same cemetery every single day. And he walked past the cemetery one day at night. And there was a guy there, and the guy stopped him and said, excuse me, do you have a light? And he said, yeah, yeah, I do. And he was like a he, he did the, spun that, spun the wheel around on the lighter to spark up the guy.

00:34:19:17 – 00:34:45:04
Cigaret and the guy had a hood up. And when he when the light kind of was bright on the guy's face, the guy had no face. He had no face whatsoever. And the cigaret was just like, hover in there. My granddad dropped the lighter and he ran all the way home. And this happened outside a cemetery. So he was like, that was a ghost from the cemetery.

00:34:45:05 – 00:35:16:13
That one. All right, granddad, you got me. All right. I fucking shit myself like the witch. I let that slide and it is like that. Scary. Yeah. The brother in the doorway. Okay. That someone. But then when granddad told me that and I was like, fucking no, that is horrible. And that that obviously stuck with me. Now my dad is very much yeah gone just quickly, you know, you said that they went for a siesta every day.

00:35:16:13 – 00:35:37:20
Was it 4:00 get was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They weren't sleeping. You come in, they go off. For fuck's sake. Quickly. Don't say that. Every 4:00. Every 4:00. One up. That's what they used to call it. They'd be looking, doing the washing up at 2:00. Go to. I looked at a bunk up. I knew they were old by then.

00:35:37:20 – 00:36:03:18
They weren't doing stuff like that. Yeah, cuz they were, Sorry. Your dad. So my dad is very much of. He doesn't believe. Absolutely. He doesn't believe. And he one of his houses was an old cottage called Rose's Cottage. Been there for years. That's cottage. And even if they're with his, then Mrs.. He said he was in bed at night.

00:36:03:20 – 00:36:27:02
He woke up there was like a light, an almost bright light above him where he where he was. He tried to sit up, but he was completely frozen and he couldn't move his legs. There was a weight on his legs and he couldn't do anything. So he did what only my dad would do and he just started punching me.

00:36:27:02 – 00:36:52:04
There, throwing hands mid-air. It's so funny when he does his impressions of this punch in mid-air. And then the light went away. He got his, he got his feeling back. And he was that fox at night terror. That that was weird. When I went back to bed. Now I can put that down to sleep paralysis. Bit of dreaming, bit of a bit of this, bit of the other.

00:36:52:06 – 00:37:16:17
My Uncle Jude stayed round my dad's house and he was asleep on the sofa. He woke up in the middle of the night and he felt like someone or something was hugging him, and he looked up and he saw an old woman just above him, not doing anything, floating above him, kind of not floating, but just looking at him.

00:37:16:19 – 00:38:00:24
And he said she was wearing something like a postal outfit or something like that. So that was another time it arrived. Actually, his uncle JD made that mad, I suppose. I mean, if you if you try and tear up the ghost that's holding changed the dynamic a little bit, some of you to be a little bit uncomfortable. Then the third thing that happened in this house, my aunt is, and my cousins were visiting there, waving goodbye to my dad and his girlfriend, and one of my cousins was waving up towards the upper window, waving along.

00:38:01:01 – 00:38:23:20
And then my auntie turn around and said, who were you waving at? And he said to Sue, who's up there? And he said, so sorry. She said, he waved. So he said, suit up there. And then she said, that's Sue and Uncle Dennis there. And he looked and they were there. And he said, well, who's that waving up at the window?

00:38:23:22 – 00:38:43:18
And there was a figure waving back at them. Now that the house down. Then years ago, years following that, my dad was moving some furniture and when he moved the chair, it caught on something on the floor in on the wooden beams, on the on the floor. And it lifted something up. And he was like, what the fuck's that?

00:38:43:18 – 00:39:02:05
I've never seen that before. And he lifted it up, and it was a little square that had been cut out of the floor, and he found old cutlery, old letters. This is your dad? Yeah. My dad is. He still got it. I know he moved away from the house. He left it in there and it was. It was an old photo.

00:39:02:05 – 00:39:24:04
And it was the cottage was Rose's Cottage. And it was a picture of Rose, who owned the cottage? Years old. What is Rose wearing? A postal outfit. Fucking slag. She she was she was a post woman. So my uncle that had that hug from a woman and looked up. And so a woman with a postal outfit must have been Rose.

00:39:24:06 – 00:39:41:13
That. So that's actually those those things. I mean, I mean, I used to fucking hate going to that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. But like, that's in a way I know it's dead know, but it's sort of that would be like, that's a nice go send it as a kind one. And he goes one. Any ghost a bad one.

00:39:41:13 – 00:40:03:21
Yeah. Yeah. That's it. This is, this is a rather good one. When I used to call fucking who's the Holy Ghost. Who is it? Is it. He's the Holy Ghost at Christmas. What do you mean? It's. There's a Holy Ghost. Ghost at Christmas in it. Hang on. What? Like is in a thing. The Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost.

00:40:04:02 – 00:40:23:14
In Judaism, the Holy Spirit, otherwise known as the Holy Ghost, is the divine force quality of influence of God over the universe or its creatures. That's the Holy Ghost. That's God. Right? I don't want to hear that. Not a Christmas time. This is a timeless. This is a time for fun and giving and having a great time. Don't start fucking talking about ghosts in assembly.

00:40:23:14 – 00:40:54:18
That's the last thing I want to talk about. I thought I'd be looking over my back or looking in the mirror and see you fucking Holy Ghost man mug. God, give me a break. Give me a break. Now, the last story that I have is actually this today. So, I've had something that's happened to me. I was in Spain at my grandparents met, my mum was in the bed and I was on the floor next to the bed, but I had an airbed.

00:40:54:20 – 00:41:20:07
And again, I felt this weight that my dad had said about on my chest, on me. I couldn't move, I couldn't do anything. All I could do was look at my mum who was asleep next to me and I tried, tried my hardest to say something to her and I couldn't get anything out. I got out a few murmurs and it wasn't loud murmurs.

00:41:20:07 – 00:41:41:00
I just couldn't do anything. And then slowly this weight came off of me and I got the feeling back and I was like, what the fuck? That's exactly what my dad said, blah blah blah blah blah. Everything running through my mind that I've been visited. There's a ghost or whatever. Looking back to it now, I have suffered serious sleep paralysis.

00:41:41:02 – 00:41:58:18
You know, that's what's happened. But back then we you go sleep for two weeks on holiday. You all kind of paralyzed when you're asleep to some degree. When you in a sort of REM. I think it's when you eat ribs. So you do become part. But but sometimes it's a mix up in you. Oh, you're waking up when you shouldn't.

00:41:58:20 – 00:42:26:02
And so you feel like it's a lot. I mean, so there isn't the balance have been asleep and been you know, it's sort of self and it's I don't mean it's paralysis. It's a self imposed rigidity. Well, whatever it was I had that. Now the, the last one that I will finish on that I've had for myself all these stories and I'm saying I'm not a believer.

00:42:26:02 – 00:42:56:22
I got, I've got a few stories. Well when I was younger. So I would have been 18, maybe 19. I was lying in bed late one night in my old Victorian terraced house. I would have been a hundred year. I was lying in bed and I was reading a book, and all of a sudden I kind of felt myself slide down my bed, a bit like my head was on the headboard, and I slid, slid down it, and I was.

00:42:56:22 – 00:43:18:24
I what what what the fuck was that? Did I just fall asleep? And I've just I've just slid down my bed. Now what's happened? I looked at my computer monitor on my desk and it was waving, rocking back and forth, and I thought, what the fuck's happening? What do you mean? I looked for the the the big, big CRT ones.

00:43:19:01 – 00:43:42:13
Yeah. Rocking like this. It was rocking. Going back and forth physically. Physically. Right. But as if someone had pushed the table or. Yeah, as if someone had pushed it or moved it by themselves. And I looked at the light bulb, light bulb swinging both of them. How? Swinging. Moving. How much is it swinging? Not. Not like a pendulum.

00:43:42:13 – 00:44:00:20
It was enough to look up and you knew it was moving straight into my mum's room. Said to her what had happened. She said, go to bed. We lived near a, a train station. What is it you want? Your mum's your 18. What did you want to do? What? To protect me. That's what they're always supposed to be.

00:44:00:22 – 00:44:18:13
That's what we always go to them for protection. Right? But I went in there and we lived near a train station, and there was a haulage company. So a lot of lorries parking up there and, you know, freight and all that. And she said that it was probably the engine of an idling lorry going down the terrace house in, and it shook the house.

00:44:18:15 – 00:44:36:15
I was like, it's not going to shake a light bulb and it's not going to shake a, I don't know what to do. I went back into my room, slept with the light on. I knew there was a poltergeist in there, just knew there was. And then I was just getting ready to be fucked over. And and it never came.

00:44:36:15 – 00:44:58:21
So I went to work in the morning, and everybody was outside smoking outside the front entrance. And there was this, like, real hubbub of conversations and people shooting back and forth and chatting further in a fucking wild. I was like, you know, I was like, what's happened? What's happened? And they're like, did you hear that? And I was like, what did I feel?

00:44:58:21 – 00:45:21:04
What? And they said it like 1:00 in the morning in Milton Keynes, there was a mini earthquake. And I was like, thank God, thank fuck, fuck, fuck for that, man. This is the thing. And the thing is, if you hadn't gone to that work and you hadn't heard that conversation, you would never have arrived at that. The very logical explanation there of, well, not an earthquake.

00:45:21:04 – 00:45:40:19
Quite rare, but I do happen in England and that's the reason why. So it makes complete sense. But use computers, apologize, because all the preloaded ideas that you had in your head. Now, the thing I've got, the issue I've got with all of your stories, Rick, is they all happened to you while you were alone. There wasn't anyone else to witness what was happening.

00:45:40:21 – 00:46:02:22
And your mind can do mental things. I've got one that happened to a group of us at the same time. Have you watched some? I remember back in the day I haven't got one called The Entity that used to say no. The entity is a book I read about a naughty, poltergeist that used to shake women.

00:46:02:24 – 00:46:26:17
I'd say naughty was evil. That sounds horrendous. They made a film out of it. It's called The Entity. And the entity to, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I think that was, we go back to that. Yeah, I read this book and I was like, fucking anyone in the all Nova ghost House story. This is like, just like said that women up and a woman ends up waiting for him to come.

00:46:26:19 – 00:46:50:22
Oh, shit. Yeah, that starts to get into it. Like. And I'm like, oh, Jesus, this is working for me. I'll bear in mind, I was like 14 talking, went out to a book called The End Mean no, Rick, I want to go back to the to the proof thing. The thing that, okay, you need more than one person to experience the same thing in order for it to be considered.

00:46:50:24 – 00:47:11:12
Right? So you need a witness. Yeah. What happened to me? My brother, a stepbrother, and two of my mates all happened to us at the same time. And we all saw and experienced the exact same thing. We were together. And if we tell the story now, it would be identical. And this happened when we were about 15, 16, 17, maybe.

00:47:11:14 – 00:47:38:09
So remember I talked about my nanny. Becky's dying, and, in our front room. She died in like 1986, 1987. And she's very old, like a lot of long lives in my family. And she was like, 98, 99, maybe, the way my dad's house was, it was the terrace housing in London. North London. Right. And they all they are narrow but very tools.

00:47:38:10 – 00:47:58:20
Had free three stories plus a, plus a loft. When you open the front door, you can see through the house because there's one corridor that runs on the right hand side, and then the living room and the kitchen was on the left, and you could see essentially straight through to the back of the house to the back door.

00:47:58:22 – 00:48:18:17
Yeah. In the middle of it was, well, three quarters of the way down. When you're looking down this corridor, there was a glass door. So it was almost like a door that stopped the corridor. And you could go through that door into the sort of utility room led out to the garden if you wanted to. No one touch that door.

00:48:18:19 – 00:48:43:01
There's no need. You just walk straight through anyway, we all came in. We opened the door, the lights were off. It was about 8:00 at night during the summer, and you could see light coming through the back of the house. As the sun was setting through the windows and down the corridor, and we were coming through the front door.

00:48:43:01 – 00:49:06:23
So we're looking at the lights coming from the back of the house. That makes sense. Yeah. There was a woman standing behind this glass door, a woman, she was there. We all saw it because we all screamed, turned around and ran. No one was in the house, by the way. This house was empty, but parents were on holiday in Spain, so we run it.

00:49:06:24 – 00:49:25:16
We did what we thought was best, which was go McDonald's, go anywhere to be anywhere but the house. Anyway, we bought a McDonald's. We we're like, it's me, it's not. It's me. It was my brother Glen and my mate Darren Taylor. Right. And we were sitting and we were we we went to McDonald's. We come back before we've got to go in the house.

00:49:25:16 – 00:49:32:05
We have to we opened the door. No woman, no fucking result.

00:49:32:07 – 00:49:51:19
We all right after that then? Yeah. No. Woman. Oh, God. No. That in the end. So we walked in. Turn the lights on. We sat down at the at the kitchen. So you come in right into, into a dining area and the front room. We were sitting around the table in the dining area five minutes talking about is we did we say it?

00:49:51:19 – 00:50:11:01
Maybe it's just a light. The light was weird. Maybe. Maybe there wasn't no one in there. And I was like, yeah, it was one like, you see her face, it was she was old and she was. She had long hair and she was standing there. You could see details then, you know, as much as you could in a, in a sort of in a darkened corridor with light coming from behind.

00:50:11:01 – 00:50:44:02
So silhouetted. But. Yeah. Yeah, but but without a shadow of a doubt. There was a woman there. Yeah, I mean, I fucking you. There was, I wasn't there, there was this thing about calling like my dad and my step brothers. Mum just to tell him this is what we seen. And as we were discussing it, Ricky, it was if a giant from the on the room above with jumping up and stamping on the floor or you heard it bang bang bang bang.

00:50:44:04 – 00:51:10:12
We're like, run out the house again because terrified, right? The ceiling shook you. You're talking about it being ten feet above a head. Someone had jumped up and brought their feet down so hard in the ceiling that the ceiling shook about 3 or 4 times. Is that for me? This is rank ran out again. Come back about.

00:51:10:12 – 00:51:30:17
We had. No, it's Damian, my brother because that's our house ended up having to go back. Luckily nothing got what would you, you and your brother do? You chop his head off to sleep in the same room? Anything? We. I think we shared bedrooms at that stage. And anyway, we had, Okay. But. Yeah, because the house, there was two bays.

00:51:30:18 – 00:51:48:16
It was too many of us in the house I went didn't get to have our own bedrooms. That that I cannot explain, I can't I can kind of explain away the woman behind because you can think particularly I, we all saw the same thing. So maybe it was light, but it looked like a woman and we all reacted pretty badly.

00:51:48:16 – 00:52:13:23
But maybe we were feeding off each other. Yeah. The stamping on the ceiling is something I can't explain. We went up there and had a look. Nothing. No, no, there was nothing. There was just a what? It was a bedroom. An old but an old bedroom. There was nothing there. And it never happened again. As a as a nonbeliever and having those experiences, does it not make me just 1% of a believer?

00:52:13:23 – 00:52:31:16
I never looked down the corridor again in my entire life. From living in that house. So when I was coming through the front door, my head would always be down. Always. Till now, all the time. It was like, all subconscious. I didn't want to see it again. So I can't explain that. I don't know what it was.

00:52:31:20 – 00:52:56:05
I can't explain the voice in, in my dad's bedroom either. Look at it. This house can't explain that either. The inside. Yeah, it's it's it's it's real. Then. I mean, it's not. Well, in the same way that your poltergeist in your bedroom is real. Until it wasn't real. Yeah. That's true. I don't have the explanation that you have.

00:52:56:07 – 00:53:16:05
No, I yeah, I yeah, I mean there's never going to be an expert explanation. Now I've got a few stories that I want to read out because people kind enough to send them in. So I'm going to jump straight into them. So the first one laying down on my couch, half asleep when my body hits a numb all over.

00:53:16:06 – 00:53:47:20
See, we've been talking about this. Can't miss, can only move my eyes. Can't open my lids I hear footsteps going to the room next to me. Two sets of footsteps run out by. Footsteps walk slowly to me and I hear a whisper. Can I sit here? Then the remote falls to the floor and I'm able to move and see nobody ran to my friend's room and jumped in bed with him and told him about the ghosts.

00:53:47:22 – 00:54:17:07
He then asked his landlord about the ghost and she mentions, oh yeah, that's my grandparents that passed away a few years ago. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, just just casually, dropped that one in their second story in the mid 70s, my mum and dad shipped us all from North London to enjoy the country that, of Como. Our house was a lovely old farm bungalow that had a barnyard and fields at the edge of town on a main road.

00:54:17:07 – 00:54:39:22
We convert the attic into three extra bedrooms and ten year old bungalow into a B&B to pick up some extra money from the summer holiday makers. However, things got very strange this particular night we had a knock on the door like somebody needed a room and my mum quickly needed to make the bed up, but the spare sheets were in the room.

00:54:39:24 – 00:55:06:21
Phil, who's a regular visitor, was staying in so mum knocked on the door to fill his room. No answer assuming he was asleep as it was too late, mum opened the door and quietly went to the cupboard as she crept in, so Phil let out a terrified scream from the bed. Mum apologized, quickly, grabbed the bed sheets and ran out.

00:55:06:23 – 00:55:29:05
The next morning at breakfast, mum brought Phil his full English over to his table and apologized again and explained about the late arrival and the bed sheets being in his room. He replied it wasn't you, it was the old lady and the little boy smiling at me, floating at the end of the bed. That really freaked me out.

00:55:29:07 – 00:55:58:01
I think mum gave him a couple of extra rashers of bacon to him that day. He did come back and stay with us today, but always in a different room. So Brooke and Phil got it on with his mum. Yeah, yeah for sure, yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, definitely feel like that happened. Yeah. Amazing. Now, this one I have to read out.

00:55:58:03 – 00:56:18:14
I don't normally write into anything at all that felt I should put in the effort to support the pot. Anyway, here goes. I need to put a little bit of context in place so this experience makes sense. At the age of ten, I was diagnosed of a chronic bowel disorder, which I still suffer from today as a family.

00:56:18:14 – 00:56:40:22
On the odd occasion, the topic of ghosts and afterlife would pop up. My mother was very on the fence regarding the possibility of the spirit world. On the other hand, my father categorically would not have it and would shut down the conversation rather quickly. I often wondered why he was totally against the idea. Maybe he'd seen something and kept schtum.

00:56:40:22 – 00:57:01:24
We just wasn't, wasn't scared, just didn't want scary thoughts entering his child's head. I was around 14 years old and had to have an intravenous drip every night, which lasted until the morning. This consisted of 2.5l of fluid. I hasten to add. This makes you piss a lot. I'd be up and down the toilet 2 to 3 times a night.

00:57:02:01 – 00:57:24:07
I could walk to the loo blindfolded, pushing the drip along the stand with me. I never put the lights on as if to wake me up, and I didn't want to return back to full sleep. And I wanted to return back to full sleep. I returned to bed and lay down, to go back to sleep. Within moments I could feel something on my hair.

00:57:24:09 – 00:57:50:00
I stretch my arm out to turn the bedside lamp on to my utter and startled surprise, there was a boy kneeling down beside the bed, his arm out, hand on my head. I lay there and totally froze with fear. He he then said in a quiet voice, my name is Robert. Try not to worry. Everything will be okay.

00:57:50:02 – 00:58:11:07
He looked the same age as me, with brown hair, green eyes and pale. After what seemed like going around a few minutes, he slowly just dissolved. It's safe to say I absolutely shit myself and could not sleep after this event. The next day I was contemplating telling my mum and obviously dad would have shot down this story in flames.

00:58:11:07 – 00:58:30:19
Anyway, I kept quiet for a few months until for some reason, the ghost topic came up again. I thought this was my chance to tell them. Whilst we were all at the dinner table, I explained the whole event to my parents without interruption. I could see tears running down my mum's face and my dad with his head in his hands.

00:58:30:21 – 00:59:01:21
Now I'm feeling terrible. What have I said that has caused such reactions? My mum wipe the tears from her eyes, leaned over the table and gave me a hug. Nothing further was said that evening until the next morning when my father had left for work. My mum began to explain the reason for both of their upset reactions. Unbeknownst to me, my mother had a stillborn a few years before my birth of boy, of which they had named Robert.

00:59:01:23 – 00:59:25:11
She then held me tight and said to me, that's why you're our little miracle. The conversation never came up again. I heard that people with extreme ill health, extremely ill health can be more susceptible to this type of thing. Maybe yes, maybe no. I've never mentioned this until this email. Is there another side? I kind of hope so.

00:59:25:13 – 00:59:53:22
That's cool. That's cool. That is, that's touching. And his his middle name is. That's nice. Maybe. Yeah. That is, what do you hope this so. Yeah, of course I do. Of course, but I don't hope it's like where I been. Yeah. And I'm just wandering around aimlessly like I can't see. I've got, like, a I'm eternally on my own as a ghost, just milling about.

00:59:53:22 – 01:00:11:12
And I don't see other guys like, if I'll be. Well, I know if I don't go, if I'm open, see my nana, my granddad and oh, look, there's stripes. The hamster. I had, like, you know, if you was a ghost, would you be still scared if I were a ghost? Yeah, right. Yeah, absolutely you would. What difference does it make?

01:00:11:13 – 01:00:32:10
You still be you, right? Yeah I know, and then you've got. I reckon. Look at any rate for. Whoa she's come I realize you don't realize these things. They're like in sixth sense. They don't realize their ghost. Oh, sixth sense. But that scared me. That film. Yeah, yeah, course it did. What was it? Right? Yeah. What for? People don't have somehow not seen Sixth Sense.

01:00:32:12 – 01:00:59:03
That was you know, you had the question, didn't you? Do the films bit? Yes, I did indeed. I've got a couple of things to talk about. So I just wanted to ask you go. What is your scariest film that you've ever watched? So it's a couple of things. It I think our generation was more scared by films than certainly my kids.

01:00:59:03 – 01:01:20:06
But my kids, I've watched films that would have traumatized me with my kids. And they it's like nothing to them, like, I don't my kids have what they they they don't get scared. Oh, no, not at all. Like Chloe will watch things, scary movies on our own in a room and then turn the lights off and just go to sleep.

01:01:20:08 – 01:01:41:10
Like I think it's because. I think it's because when, when when we because we grew up in in the 80s and what was what they were able to produce and the kind of stories that were coming out during the 80s in terms of filmmaking and story was was different to what was before. Like horror movies used to be Nostra Nostra.

01:01:41:12 – 01:02:06:18
How do you pronounce that? Mr.. Far too little. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's far to that distance from it. Must have, to Anyway, they were like black and white. No, no sound Nostra ferrata. Nostra ferrata. No sound, not really scary. Using shadows and stuff. That was horror movies of a time. I'm sure about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:06:18 – 01:02:24:09
Whereas, you know, in the 80s it was like, That's Chucky and it's a doll was an inanimate object that comes and wants to come and kill people. That would scare the life out me. But in terms of like, like the kids have been so exposed to it all kids that they just got scared. Like, the kids get scared by horror movies, I don't know, watch it.

01:02:24:12 – 01:02:51:00
You wouldn't let me watch it. Wouldn't let me watch it. Not at this age. Not at ten. Yeah, of course, because I was, I was mad affected by it. And the first film that I watched that really fucking God put, put the frighteners on me was, Freddy Krueger. And it was that scene where the person is in the bed and they slide up the wall to the ceiling, and then blood spraying everywhere.

01:02:51:00 – 01:03:13:17
Yeah, that the thing that never scared me. That sort of stuff never scared me. The kind of the really kind of gory stuff because I, I knew it wasn't real. Like Freddy Krueger. It's just so to me, I looked it and I was like, so stupid that it wasn't scary. But in that scene, there was nothing there. It was like a poltergeist sliding them up the wall.

01:03:13:17 – 01:03:34:12
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. See? Sorry. Yeah. It's just not going everywhere. Yeah. No, I remember that bit. It's the fact that there's a thing you can't see that's what's scary right? Like. Yeah. Yeah. Like the, it was anything that could be considered real. What would be what got me that, that's that's what I found. Right. So if they could this happen in my life feasibly.

01:03:34:14 – 01:03:55:00
Yes. Then the fuck me that scary. I watched the The Exorcist at night. I wish I hadn't done that, but I did think got me to see what The Shining got me as well. Never seen that. I mean, it's scary even to this day. It's still scary. Is that about ghosts in that? Yeah. So it's the whole place is haunted.

01:03:55:02 – 01:04:23:12
Oh, for fuck's sake. Definitely not watching that. That definitely not watching that. I think those are the two. Oh, actually, the ring really just. Yeah, I think now the thing is as well, do you remember back in the day when I was like 14 or whatever, me, my mates would walk around the shopping center, go to HMV and buy five days of £20, and I, I picked out the four DVDs I wanted, needed an extra one.

01:04:23:14 – 01:05:00:01
And I picked out the ring because everyone was talking about it. So watch all these films. And then I watched The Ring and I thought, what the fuck have I just done to myself? It was horrendous. There's a bit where I think they open the cupboard and there's like a dead child sitting there and the head rolls forward and the face has got this grin on it, and it's just like, honestly, when I was flipping through films to watch and I knew I was coming up to the ring, I would look, look the other way just so I wouldn't have to see the cover of it because it was just, oh God, horrible.

01:05:00:03 – 01:05:21:21
I know I used to do that and things. Have you ever seen, I'll tell you, a recommend a film for you to watch. Yeah. Sinister. But I. Yeah. Sounds good. Ethan Hawke, he's a, like, a crime writer, and he finds a box of super eight movies. And on the movies, there are like murders that are happening, but they're not murders by someone in real life.

01:05:21:21 – 01:05:47:09
They're murders by a a supernatural entity. So you're watching, shit. You're watching these murders happening, but you can't see the go. Oh, man. It's it's it's disturbing. Not fun. I don't, I find people really into horror movies a little bit odd, to be honest. Right. So that's that's a great, description. Disturbing. Definitely. When I go and watch that after this fucking conversation, watch it on.

01:05:47:10 – 01:06:09:05
Right. And then the, we touched on it last week, the mockumentary Ghost Watch. Yeah. I if anyone wants to watch that, by the way. So in the last episode that, we put out inadequacies in the footnotes, in a in the plot description, I actually put a link to Ghost Watch where you can watch that for free.

01:06:09:07 – 01:06:29:03
So it's like hour and a half long. And I started watching it because to do some prep for this podcast and I was like, I can't watch this again. It was just what you found is scary again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As an adult, broad daylight, 2:00 in the afternoon. I was watching it and I was like, I don't want to do this again.

01:06:29:05 – 01:06:49:14
I need you to set it off. So I was I was watching it just to make sure I had the right thing. And then I skipped forward. And the ghost in it. Mister pipes had scratched this girl's face and she is like a pipe. Scratches all over her face, and they're trying to calm her down, and she's just like, not even moving to doing anything.

01:06:49:14 – 01:07:12:03
And I was just like, what? Mister pipes? The poltergeist scratching the gas? I don't I don't fucking hate this. I would implore anyone to go back and watch it. Right. It's so. Well done. So much so, it was a huge controversy about it after the author. It was it was, aired. So it was there was.

01:07:12:05 – 01:07:42:08
Sorry, there was I think there was a million, contacts to the BBC produced a complaint to say there were complaints and how amazing it was like that it was staged, that it was live and that it was actually happening. It was incredibly insane. So did stuff you watch it because I bought it, and I've watched the DVD a few times over the years, and there's things you miss the first time that you that you he'll part.

01:07:42:12 – 01:08:00:08
You'll see pipes and he and he'll be in the curtain or he'll be right. But they won't tell you that he's there. It was subtle. You like I say you like, you wash it back and you think, oh my God, he's there, he's there. Oh my God, I didn't notice that before. And this is stuff that's in the background, beyond this poor plot.

01:08:00:10 – 01:08:21:10
And bearing in mind this all was done shot live, it was shot. I'm pretty sure it was shot live as it went to TV. I might be mistaken. It it certainly is. You was watching that. You felt like it was. It was real. Yeah. And it's basically based on these two girls. It was. It was based on the Enfield, Poltergeist story, which is known around the world.

01:08:21:12 – 01:08:44:04
And you can still see photos from that. What happened in that house in Enfield? And there's a there's a BBC dramatization of it. It's quite good. But there was these girls and they was. There's a poltergeist in the house and and these the who was on it. It was, Sarah Green and someone else, Parkinson, like, this is Michael Parkinson.

01:08:44:04 – 01:09:04:12
These are legitimate personalities in proper TV. And it was them hosting this. So you're like, is this real? Is this. What am I watching? Is it real? Is this a hoax? So it had that. They had the, Oh, my God, he's got a picture of pipes. The bloke who played it like, I know I saw that as well.

01:09:04:14 – 01:09:33:11
And then I just, you know. Anyway, so, yeah, there was this, it was just a brilliant thing, but I'm just reading now about the controversy. It says, although Ghost Watch was aired under the screen, one drama banner is documentary style that many believe viewers to believe the events were real and cause much controversy. After the show's airing, the BBC was besieged with phone calls from irate and frightened viewers, among among them Parkinson's elderly mother.

01:09:33:13 – 01:09:55:14
British tabloids and other newspapers criticized the BBC the next day for the disturbing nature of some of the scenes, such as Green's final scene, which was locked under the stairs in the cupboard with the howling ghost and Parkinson's eerie position possessions. The scene as Parkinson gets possessed mate. Yeah man, it's so good. It was so good. Definitely go and watch it.

01:09:55:16 – 01:10:16:16
Then there's a bit scene, the blooper, where the little girl runs into the doorframe, you know. No, no, you probably didn't get to the little girl because it was shot live. She spat, she spun around and she walked straight into the doorframe, bounced off. Guys, and one of the kids, one of the people helper, bashed all the faces up.

01:10:16:18 – 01:10:45:21
So if you do want to WhatsApp, go to our last, last episode. And I've put a link in the show notes of that, we are going to jump along to dilemmas and something only you know, shortly. But next week's topic we are going to be talking about embarrassments, embarrassing an ex. Don't say what most in the word I'm not.

01:10:45:21 – 01:11:11:24
I wait, wait wait. What are your most embarrassing moments? Can you remember an embarrassing situation? Not necessarily yours. So I saw one the other day when I was in McDonald's. A guy had ordered his, breakfast meal. He'd walked away with his tray. His coffee toppled over towards him. He was wearing a white t shirt. It was McDonald's, just full coffee all over him.

01:11:11:24 – 01:11:31:24
And he tried to, like, kick off because it was like, make it as though it was their fault and the lid were on properly. We all saw it, right? You just walk like a div and you knocked it over yourself. I mean, it was embarrassing and I'm thinking about that now. And that was like two weeks ago. And what are your biggest eggs now?

01:11:32:01 – 01:11:58:24
Flav? What can I guess that one of your biggest eggs is the word egg? Absolutely. Yeah. That was coming from him. It's like because when people say egg, they know they're saying it. Yeah, but they want to be a part of this new word that's been created. So they say it. And the fact that it comes from like a love island.

01:11:59:01 – 01:12:25:12
The etymology of the word seems to be Love Island. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's give me the egg, fucking die in a fire place. Right. Okay. I didn't think about that, but you. Right. Yeah. And don't you. Wrong island. Some colloquialisms and stuff. But but and language changes and stuff. But. I don't I what's wrong with what is irritating me?

01:12:25:14 – 01:12:45:07
That's irritating. Oh, that's giving me a look. I will dive into that. We'll dive into it next week. Now that was actually suggested by one of the lasses that that might simply answer, so when I say lasses, does that sound like lads and lasses like lads. Anonymous last anonymous does that. Is that right? It's just the way.

01:12:45:08 – 01:13:06:05
Is race fun? I mean, you can't it's all every everybody's. Yeah. No we were all in common when you, when we say lads. Yeah. But it's not. Yeah that's fine I mean yeah that's fine, it's fine. Yeah. So if you've got any of your most embarrassing moments or an embarrassing situation that you're a member and you're like, fuck it.

01:13:06:05 – 01:13:29:04
Now that is whatever I say. Send them in all. Yeah. And your ex as well. Sentimental lads. Anon pod gmail.com and we will read them out next week. Now before we go into dilemmas and something only you know, I just want to say we received the most one of the best voice notes we've ever received for something only you know.

01:13:29:06 – 01:13:57:01
And we will play that next week because the something none of you know for this week is relevant to the podcast. But next week we have the banger of a voice now, so make sure you stay tuned for next week. Now we are going to be going into dilemmas.

01:13:57:03 – 01:14:26:08
So, just tell you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad because I will give you a can in your soul alone in your flat. Please talk to Ricky a flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve this. Like you're safe here to get nice warm between Ricky and then.

01:14:26:10 – 01:14:53:08
This is called Rock and a hard place. Highlights. Automatic download here. I've got a bit of a dilemma, and I need a bit of weather. A few weeks ago, on a lads night out, we were having a great night when one of my best pals pulled a go inside the club. But the dilemma is that my best pals girlfriend is best friends with my partner.

01:14:53:10 – 01:15:13:14
This isn't the first time he's done this either. The right thing to do is obviously tell her, but I can't snitch on my best pal. I don't want to wreck my relationship with my missus, with my lifelong mate. I've said he needs to be, I've said he needs to tell. It needs to be the one to tell her.

01:15:13:16 – 01:15:37:02
But it goes in one ear and out the other. Yeah. How do I go about this without ruining either relationship? Now, again, this was I found it a little bit hard to decipher what was going on. So it's it's a guy, his best mate is in, but they're in a club or whatever. But he's not. He's actually got a partner and his partner is best mates.

01:15:37:02 – 01:16:03:05
Yeah, but the guy who's emailed in with his girlfriend. Girlfriend? Yeah. Yeah. So he knows he can't. He doesn't know. Right on his mate. Yeah. Obviously his wife's going to be he's going to be furious if he doesn't because he's best mates with the girl she's best mates with is to go. Yeah. And he's saying he's saying, he's saying that the blokes just go like guys in one night out, but I don't want to deal with it.

01:16:03:07 – 01:16:32:22
Just want to carry on shagging. Yeah. I think you're within your rights not to say anything and plead the fifth. Say that you didn't know. Yeah, and just walk away from it. Just say, how would your girlfriend know that you knew? How would she know? I oh, well, I think oh, what I would do is I would.

01:16:32:24 – 01:16:51:03
Oh, the girlfriend and tell you, mate, that you've told your girlfriend and tell his girlfriend. Break both relationships, walk away clean night mode girlfriend, name your best mate. Just leave on your own. Yeah, just split up with your girlfriend.

01:16:51:05 – 01:17:16:21
And, you know, honestly, like Flav says that there were times, like, in many groups of mates throughout my life, and, you know what lads have done when they've gone out and stuff like that. I, you know, agreeable to it, but I'm not going to go and tell their wives or girlfriends or anything like that. If that is showing up, there wouldn't be any.

01:17:16:21 – 01:17:38:11
Will there be no relationship left if you start grass on everything you mates done? No. And like that, you know they're old enough to understand their actions. The consequences. They're accountable. Leave it down to him. It's if he wants to do that, that's his prerogative. And just because you know about it doesn't mean you have to tell you.

01:17:38:11 – 01:17:58:20
Mrs.. And just say that he's my best pal. I can't grasp on him. You would you would have done the same. And she's not going to finish with you because you've held that information in. I think she could see she should not. This is definitely going to happen, but she should see your position, how difficult it is as well.

01:17:58:22 – 01:18:16:12
She's going to say, yeah, but what about my best friend? You knew this is her happiness. This is one of those situations where there is no way out. Yeah, you're the real assholes, your mate. He's put you in this situation. And the fact that he's not willing to ignore it, he's the problem. So he's created that issue for you.

01:18:16:14 – 01:18:41:07
He's obviously would never imagine you grassing up on him because that isn't what you do. So it's really. Yeah. I think you should sit down and go, look, mate, you've put me in a fucking horrible situation here. I love my missus. I see a future with her and you're forcing me to potentially ruin it. Like ruin the trust that I have with her by not telling her what you're.

01:18:41:07 – 01:19:02:04
What you're up to because you want to put your cock in a fanny. Lots of money. So you're put in your desire to put your cock in a fanny over my entire relationship because of the way you behave. Split up with her and do whatever you want. That's the correct thing. Yeah. If he still goes. Yeah, yeah, by any, then you're in trouble.

01:19:02:06 – 01:19:18:19
Then you know. Yeah. It's difficult because you might look at someone outside, you go, well he's not your best friend if he puts you in a situation, but that isn't the way most blokes work. He's not thinking about you when he's putting his dick in the fanny. No, he's thinking about this. Feels good. I want to do more of this.

01:19:18:21 – 01:19:40:18
Yeah, that's what I'll be thinking. He's not. He's not? How can I do more for. Yeah. And how often can I do more of this? Yeah, it's. That is a tricky one. What would I do? I couldn't like, this is like, if it's you, Ricky. Right? It's just like me. If you are going to go to my wife, I'm going to go to Ollie and cross you up.

01:19:40:20 – 01:20:01:03
Can't. I can't do that. Yeah I can't, yeah. And, I just, I just to not ignore it, but just say I didn't know it was happening or it happened once and that's I know it happened once. And he said he's never going to do it again. And I don't know about all the other times. How can you how can you be having a go at me for his actions.

01:20:01:03 – 01:20:19:12
Not. Yeah, but no, but you'll do. She would say, Ricky, my friend, is crushed and you know, and you could have stopped this. You could have ease the pain and you didn't. And in your journey you're going to just keep going. Yeah, yeah, I didn't I didn't know Ricky. You knew about all of them. You was out with him the whole time you.

01:20:19:14 – 01:20:49:04
Oh, you you egg anyone? You think I try on with that one? No, but even you wouldn't have done that, right. So that's what I'm saying, is that you can't you can't get out of it. You're he's he's not. You don't do you, mate, I don't understand. I wouldn't cross you up. I would say so. Look, I understand, I understand your friend is hurt, but must you must understand that while my mate is a dickhead and I do not write what he's done, I call cross on him.

01:20:49:09 – 01:21:10:11
I've known him all my life. What was really fucked, right? Is it? He could lose his if this. Some girls would write that to such a low degree that they. They might not even. I can't believe you did this. I. How can I trust you? Yeah, one of them ones he's got towards. He's mate convinced his mate. Yeah.

01:21:10:15 – 01:21:45:06
I mean and that's he's I've got to convince him to stop doing it so that it's never spoken about again or, he's just gonna get found out is. I just felt a wrap of gear in my wallet. What? Just now, I. So after driving that, I think. Why does that come on? I. That's. Yeah, that and that's that, that is, that's that's the dilemma.

01:21:45:08 – 01:21:57:03
Right. We are going to be going onto something only, you know, right now.

01:21:57:05 – 01:22:07:06
Why something you, you know.

01:22:07:08 – 01:22:30:00
That damn dog female listener here. And auto download, of course. I listen every week with my boyfriend. He will obviously be listening to this with me, so it will not be something only I know if you read it out. But hey, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. So? So his boyfriend doesn't know what she's about to say?

01:22:30:02 – 01:22:46:20
Boyfriend doesn't know. This is it. This is. This is the boyfriend and the girlfriend. This is. This gets this podcast together. And then he's going to discover some. Well, right now because he's he knows. Well, she may he might know when this when, when she hears what this is about to say. But they might be she's driving along, maybe listens in the car.

01:22:46:20 – 01:23:07:24
Right. And she's like, this is about me, the boyfriend. Listen, go. This could be about us. But there are. We know there are other couples out there, boys and girls that listen to this together. All of them are now thinking, did my missus send this in? Yeah. This is great. I didn't think of it like that. Yeah. Fucking brilliant.

01:23:08:01 – 01:23:29:06
I thought this would be a good time to mention this as the theme of ghost is coming up, which triggered this memory for me when I was about 8 or 9. I used to be absolutely terrified of all things supernatural. I watched the ghost be brought a lot with my parents, and that just always freaked me out. As well as having three older brothers who wound me up about it to no end.

01:23:29:08 – 01:23:50:01
One night when everyone was asleep and all the lights in the house were off, I really needed a pee. Like really needed it. I was lying in bed for a while wondering what to do because I was too terrified of leaving my room because there were clearly ghosts haunting me. Yeah, in order to get to the bathroom, to pass the front door.

01:23:50:04 – 01:24:14:13
We lived in a bungalow at the time, which had panes of glass down to the floor, and I knew deep down in my heart that there was going to be a terrifying, ghostly figure standing on the other side of the door, staring at me and waiting to kill or possessed me. That's a fair assumption. Yeah. We also had two dogs, one of which had a bed in my room.

01:24:14:15 – 01:24:35:23
I just want to note that the dogs were not in my room at this particular moment in time, nor were they any good at alerting me to Poltergeist. I was desperate and I didn't know what to do. So the only logical thing that my nine year old brain told me to do was pacing the dog's bed and blame it on the dog.

01:24:36:00 – 01:24:59:15
Unfortunately, this was a very big way that I needed at the time, so there was only so much small dog bed could take. I did my business, went back to sleep in my bedroom and now it stank of human piss. Safe to say different from dog piss. Yeah. Is safe to say that everyone in that household believe me that it was the dog.

01:24:59:16 – 01:25:22:13
So to this day, only you guys now my partner and the rest of lads and non listeners know about it. Thank you for that. Thank you for listening. To something only I know. Great stuff. Great to get it off my chest. I hope to see if there are any more topics that you guys talk about that would spark any other deep rooted memory for me.

01:25:22:15 – 01:25:49:18
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01:25:49:18 – 01:26:11:13
Yeah, that sounds good. And, Yes, it's. There it is. Yeah. Today's him. So I would have to say no, but I have to send half the pack to you and keep half of the pack to me. I think so I wonder if you can play shots of Trump sometimes online. It might be some sort of, Like, that would be amazing.

01:26:11:13 – 01:26:37:02
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01:26:37:02 – 01:26:54:13
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01:26:54:15 – 01:27:17:09
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01:27:17:11 – 01:27:52:23
And until then, we will see you next Monday. Because shocking to see what. Got to be whale shark. Full day Burma. The night hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes. Hi. Is quiet. Midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is I, we like to speak and yeah, times change.

01:27:52:23 – 01:27:58:12
But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

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At the 4 p.m., bunk up.