#30 | Hobbies | they’re crucial to your happiness and here’s why….

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Why can't you pack your your child? Why is it up to the mum to pack the kids suitcases? I understand your I'm with you, but I just don't understand why men can't. Because my daughter's, like going on 13 and 11 and there is just shit everywhere. I don't know what stuff they were like. They'll be like, dad, I can't find this.

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And I say, oh, you can wear this t shirt to bed tonight. I haven't worn that since I was seven. It's like where, you know. But we're out, right? Yeah, yeah, it just shut up. They just make this go away. But my favorite one is when the boy goes, I'm, foxy. If I got any clothes, that's what he calls me.

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40, 30 clothes. Long, long story. I'll tell. I'll tell that story if you want me to at a later point. But, yeah, if you got any clothes. I was like, but they're all over your floor. All of because every time he takes his clothes off, they just go on the floor. Obviously that's where they live. Yeah. And then obviously he runs out of clothes because there's no chance we go in there and just pick them up off the floor where he leaves them, and they magically appear clean.

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He has to do something. He's got to put them in bags. They've got to go downstairs. They've got to go through the wash. It cannot be, can it, that it's just they're just picked up, swept up by mum or dad. So he often runs out of clothes and we say, oh look, we've done it again. Look on your floor.

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They're your clothes. Maybe it's a bit mean. I'm not sure. Should we do the part that the.

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There any nothing to do I it's just torch. I just chime.

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On them night I see like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi is quiet midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks them hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. As I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous.

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It's episode 33rd, a fucking 30. Within the next 30 weeks. 30. 30 weeks. Yeah. A podcast where two best mates have over 20 years invited to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed, will focus on a specific subject matter first, and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice. All handled anonymously.

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So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav? Well, I was just thinking, right when the discussion we had before the jingle times are changed. But you also forgot about packing your kids suitcases. I'm talking about trying to make, you know, your teenage son a part of the process of the clothes is being cleaned. Yeah.

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And like 20 years ago when we met, we were crushing up pills, trying to shove it up each of those holes. Yeah, yeah. Times have changed. So take me back. Back. Yeah, I came back in to go back and, like, Why is it always, like, my message that does it? I just think she's just more organized and knows what the girls wear on a daily basis and what they want.

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I know I can pick out a few of what they wear regularly because it's their favorite clothes, like Nike tech something or other. And that's about it, really. But she but they're not going to be wearing like Nike tech fucking hoodies or jackets or whatever when they're going to Spain. So they might like to see that. I think, you know what, I think they probably would have bought them both a boy, a new, hoodie the other day, a black.

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And that's really nice, actually. It's very suits him, but he wants to wear it all the time, obviously. And it's funny. Oh, yeah. Boiling hot. You can't wear it because it's new, you know, so I can at least make him run right in it in a trap star puffer jacket the other day. Hey, look at where we live, right?

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There are no road men, right? There are none. There's nothing like that. There are a couple of kids. Like rough kids fucking, you know, little scalawags in in town. As you get with any little town. But they're not what you get in London, right. They they would they would shrink very quickly in London. It's not it's a different atmosphere.

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It's different aura to where I lived in the what it might be like in London. How do you weigh the kids still dressed like Roman. Right. They want to. So you turned up in a black, thick puffer jacket two days ago. The temperature was nearly 30 degrees. I said, what are you doing? Take that off anywhere. I can't, it's new.

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I was like, oh, I gone is the I remember as a kid, buying clothes that or just getting close that I really loved. And it's in the height of summer and I shouldn't be wearing the jumper and I shouldn't be wearing the kite, but I'm gonna because it's new and I want to show it off. So, I feel for that kid, but 30 fucking degrees, mate.

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And you're wearing a puffer jacket? Yeah. Puffer jacket. What? Shops are selling puffer jackets in the summer? See, this is why I know the sales happen, right? I've got my on some, bar banners, and it's not fucking rainy season. It's not, you know, time for max. But but no, if you're going to save after. Look, they can't fuck.

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We got so old man was so old and sensible. Yeah. If you're if you're, if you're going to save you get off price literally two free months. We are in that season. So what they just said in the cupboard. Yeah I I don't get that either, mate. I've got so we, I know we talking about we got that show.

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I want to save it because this could come into the hobbies section. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. So the last podcast we did was so short. No, it wasn't, it was X. And that was episode 29. Do you know how many comments and replies we've had about that episode? Run? None. Because it's not gonna get it. No one said, yeah, it was a trick question.

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Yeah, but you you were excellent. You were sharp at 10:00 on a Friday morning. Well, fucking done my way. This is. This is what I do.

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Episode 28 Social Clout Chasers. We have not had a placement emailing, but we have had a probation officer who manages and supervises pedophile only sex offenders. I mean, I shouldn't be excited by this, but I sort of am. So this is going back to the conversation that we had, that there has been an explosion of paedo hunters on social media.

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Did they do it for the good? I did it for social clout. Just what I've got going on. There's a beast. There's a new one with Vitaly again. He's back with Game the Rapper with him. Remember the game? The the game, the game. I, I've just, retweeted on our, Twitter account. Lads. Anon pod if you want to follow and it's that is it icon that that rapper.

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Yeah. And while the police are arresting a paedo, he's singing that song. Won't let the man out. Love. Yeah, well, the way he says. Yeah, he's there, he's there singing. It was there singing while the paedo is being arrested. That's what you see on Black Mirror. It is. Listen, also this episode with the game and bizarrely, Jimi talks about a lot on that podcast about clout chases that Vitale sets up scenarios and and livestreams it and catches these people in the act.

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Yeah. So now he's just bringing celebrities along with him because why not? And then he's got the game. The rap of the game people. Everybody knows who is sort of catch this kid. And you know what. Instead of humiliated in the game goes, let's just find out what's going on. This kid's head. The boy was about 20, maybe 21, and he's meeting an underage kid, and they break him down.

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Not in a they actually talk to him. So why do you feel this way? Like what happened to you guys? Well, I was abused when I was a kid, and and the game is like, yes, it's just it's just a circle. You got to break the circle of abuse notice. And I'm like, how is this fucking wholesome? How is it that the game he takes the game, the gangster rapper, the involved stages I guess in his in his life to say, let's take a step back here, let's find out why this kid is doing what he's doing.

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And it came out as I was like, fair play. It. But, you know, I actually like the sound of it. I'm going to go and watch that update. Vitale the game, it's all out there. I had so this dude was saying, well, probation officer, please, staff that he speaks to and works alongside, they value the work that some of these groups do, whilst those that gain all of the attention are those that live stream stings or confrontations.

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There are a lot of people that do this behind the scene, with no desire to gain the fame or recognition. I manage people who have been convicted of attempted sexual communication with a child, who have really been speaking with an adult, right. So I made a mistake. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's I mean, I think you made a mistake.

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Well, my my thought, my theory of what I thought was that you're not just committing a crime, are you? Because just you're not talking to a child. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That is that is a mistake. But, it's the it's the intention that they, they look at, regardless of whether it is an actual physical child on the other end.

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All right. The, the well run graves don't instigate the chat and follow legal and logical processes to ensure the case isn't compromised. They don't ask questions of a sexual nature, so they don't do the people that are really in and they're trying to catch these dudes. Yeah, on in there for the banks. They sit silently and they wait for the pedo to come out online, tap them up and use it to kind of sort of create a profile and then wait.

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Yeah, pretty much phishing. Yeah. So if you want to find a nice cop, you have to some time right away. But what happens if no one comes along. You sit there, do nothing. Nothing. This is what you do when you're fishing, right? That's sitting. Do nothing to catch nothing. Upload a little bit of profile picture. I don't know.

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Let's see. I've got this idea about and you mentioned the police officers. I think there's a strand two lads anonymous where we interview these people, where we get them on the pod and we chat to the probation officer, the policeman to talk to about any sort of stuff. I've tried previously in other ventures that I've, I've got on the I got off the, yeah expression.

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Space policeman and it's impossible. Typically there's not anything for them to gain, but you could do it anonymously I do, I do, you know, and I would Bill and he listens to this pod when I see if he would, I don't he wouldn't leave. He wouldn't presently be allowed to by the force. But if we could disguise his voice, maybe he'd be up for it.

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Yeah, maybe. Or. Yeah. I'll speak to him, see if we can work something out. All right. Let's talk about the, the the, What's this? And with the accounts and the messages first. Yeah. That's it. So the the the the cloud accounts. So the the guardians, the do gooders, they, they sit and wait until the point is, is that.

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Oh, is that legal? You think. And they call it must end. And they can't you know, they can't set these. They can't it won't you call it. It's like in Trackman it's like, yeah, it's they're having sex. Is that the honey trap? Yeah. But I think that's generally with like when gang members send a pretty lady to an up on up and then goes, come round our site, Dick.

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And now you guys go, brilliant. And we get my data sets. And then he goes to the house and then he gets gang bang. Not like that, you know. Yeah. With guns, but gang bang with guns. The, but the clout chasing accounts. This probation officer was saying that they are the ones that send the messages first, and they communicate in a, provocative manner.

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Yeah. Sexualized communication. So they are going out and they are fishing with, you know, all the latest tech. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So that they're really going for it. I wonder though is the alley. So what they get that information when they are leading the conversation is that legally dodgy. Like can kind of prosecution use that in the same way that if you do it properly, that's that's a question I'd like to know the answer to.

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Yeah. I mean, the video of Ed Matthews when he finds this nonce. Yeah. Like is any kind of prosecution service going to look at that and go, yeah, we need that as evidence. Us that's what I don't know. Yeah. You fucked it. You fucked it lad, by doing did he. That's what the question I would of what you would have done.

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But yeah yeah, yeah. For sure. Yeah. So if there's anyone out there that can answer these, type of questions, it it's up man. Lads. And on hold at gmail.com. Now, I know we spoke about on the last pod and you haven't heard it yet. This is so weird to try and record to in advance. But anyway, so Spotify comments they're not back yet.

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See if you can get your boys on there. That would be that'd be decent. And if you don't then, you know, don't bother. Should we just jump into the topic for today? Yes. I have labeled it a hobby. Are we going to go together? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Today's topic is hobbies and achievements. Interests. We've done that on purpose.

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Hobbies and achievements. What does that even mean? Yeah, I remember when the. Did you do that on purpose? I just said what was in my brain. I don't know what it's called. What's it called? Hobbies and interests. Yeah. Hobbies and interests. Isn't achievements having a hobby? Do you know it's interesting. I was browsing TikTok, as I usually do, and it was this young girl you had at like 90.

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Like. So it wasn't something that is has gone viral on TikTok. Yeah. And she said, I don't know what it is. I left university. I've been in my job for five years. The job's okay, but I'm just bored all the time. And I get home and I'm bored. And now when she records this, I'm sitting in the middle of a forest reading just a change up my scene to see if I can, you know, ignite something in my life.

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I'm bored. I'm bored making this video. I'm bored. Bored, bored. And, someone put under the first comment. Hobbies. A good. Hobbies. And not just good rate. They're crucial to stats. Is happiness. Yeah, I mean, they they really, it's it's the difference between taking a potentially taking a wrong turn in life. And if you aren't invested in something that evokes that certain emotion that calls to, like, whether it's to the football or you're well invested in fucking Warhammer, whatever it is, then that emotion gets directed somewhere else and it could be a bad place.

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Hobbies are an excellent way to let out. And, what's the word I'm looking for to relieve? Yeah, yeah. Relieve your emotions, though. Those kind of things. Let's let's cross off a few things that aren't hobbies. Before anyone can say I've got a hobby. Is masturbation a hobby? I don't think that is. I think it's a that that in itself isn't a hobby.

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But if you try to find different ways in masturbating, then I think I would let you office as a hobby because you're invested. If you're a hobbyist, if you're finding new ways, if you did the same, if you still in the same way, you do the same two types of masturbation in a week, that's not a hobby. Do you remember, like I remember the maybe the early doors and the fighting cock?

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We were talking about different methods of, yeah, masturbation. There was the wood fire method, wasn't there? Remember that oil on the ends, you know, like when you're trying to light a fire? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The the roll in between your hand. Hey. Yeah, there's that. I've never tried that. Yeah, there's the legs up the wall. I've never tried that either.

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So like, then, like to me, I know you have. You have what. Why would why would anyone want to do that? Because, you, you used to do, you know, the, the cycling position where you lay on your back and you put your legs in the air like you're cycling upside down? You said you did that and put the your legs up against the wall to come on your own face.

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I said that that is it's something that exists. I said I didn't do it, and, I know you've done that once. I've. I've gone up my shoulders, get my legs really high up in the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wish I could. I don't think you physically managed to do that these days. Yeah. Then. And I don't know, force or force.

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I've not done that anyway. That's weird. Well it's well it's. Pretty quick. Yeah. That is sort of it isn't the right angle. But he says the, they've not read the there's graffiti in Scotland says you da wax on all fours. All right. It's a masturbation isn't a, it's not a hobby. I always remember it well when I was younger, in the back of FH m or some lad magazine, they had this ingredient that you could make some kind of, like some kind of dough that you could put in a jar and use it as, like masturbation, like, so basically you're fucking a glass jar, but with some soft dough that feels like a

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vagina. And they were giving out that as a free gift. Yeah. Well, no, as a free gift. Just, you know, if you want to try this, you want to switch it up. Why don't you try this? That's fucking weird. But it was an advent. Or was it just advice? Yeah, it's just like an advert. Oh, no, it was an advice.

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Advice. Just a little tidbit. I remember, I remember this, I remember some people, almost anyone under the age of 25 would have never bought a newspaper. Right. But, when we were younger, there wasn't any. There was no real intent of the internet, was there? But it was. You'd buy a newspaper every day, right? Yeah. Everyone would get on a bus every day or buy a newspaper and just sit there and read, because even that.

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Or look at the windows, no phones, nothing. So but on the back of newspapers, certainly things like, the these are, these are the world. They would have a bit of a smut section. Do you remember it? Right. Yeah. And it was just there was nothing you could see. It was all just printed in black and white. But there would be like this weird little image of a woman in a bikini and it just say, buy X3Z videos for 15 pounds, and then you cut it out and send it off and send it back to you.

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Did you ever do that? No, I, I mean, I should have done, but I think I was holding onto them to worry that someone might open my mail and find it. Yeah. I, I just find, yeah, I wouldn't be able to do that. I still can't go into a shop and buy condoms, see who's also going into shops, newsagents to buy a Erasmus who had.

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No, no, they're still up there. Yeah. And that's some energy right to go in there. I fold your arms. Have you had to. It's a they know you're looking at the top shelf. Yeah. And then you know like run your finger across them and be like nah that one I that's not for me. Oh big jugs that one.

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That's the one. Got it down from the shelf. Put it on the counter meter I love that place. Yeah that one's got DVD, but get that one. Yeah, you do it and you just have your hands on your hips looking at them. Really taking them all in. No, but yeah, you don't need that anymore. Right? It's all of the stuff you could possibly want on the internet who is still gone?

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He's gone proper traditional. Yeah. Like he's he's saying I ain't giving it up. I'm a purist. I'm, I've actually got a story that I've, I've put in for later on, which is about lads mags. All right. But it's, It's not a hobby or interest of mine. As a small as a small as a wee lad. Did you have any kind of hobbies?

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Interests? You know what? I'm going to throw in the word collectibles in here. Yeah. Just so if, like, I know it's not hobbies, interests. So it's all kind of one in the same. So like as a kid, I mean, it would be silly to, to say that we would we were both into panini when me. Yeah, yeah. Panini stickers.

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That's a standard. Oh yeah, that's a standard. Some some girls almost every boy had Panini sticker albums that that was normal. And anyone who kind of in the 80s, I think we could go down a little nostalgia route. And anyone who isn't in there a is born in the 80s rather then you can Google somebody's stuff. But in terms of collectibles, I was mostly into, I think you remember these musclemen little orange Musclemen.

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Yeah, yeah, I had every single one of them, and I would sit and make them fight each other. I'd spend lots of time playing with G.I. Joe, G.I. Joe, and mask. You remember mask? A lot of this is based on Off the Ring. Yeah, a lot of these were based on sort of a cartoon cartoons and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So did you know this Rick just just run all over the place here. But Transformers. Yeah the t the program. That's from us. Right. That they wrote and created that purely because they wanted to sell toys. So they needed a cartoon to sell the toys. The toys came first. Yes I did know that actually as crazy in here.

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Yeah. And they created the best cartoon ever in Transformers. Yeah. I mean we both of us have, we've the we love Transformers the movie, the 1985 or 6. Yeah. And, yeah, it's one of the greatest films ever made. Easily, easily. And I it's one of my comfort, films like our watch. But yeah, with a panini stickers.

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So that's a given. The the shinies, all of that lot I used to collect monster in my pockets. Do you remember monster? The monster? I do remember that. So most of my pockets was like, muscleman. But muscle men were better, in my opinion. If, like, if we were to go to war in the playground or I'd back musclemen all day against your monster in my pocket.

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Do you know what? I'm, I'm thinking of something else for Muscle Man. I'm thinking of Stretch Armstrong. No, no, no, no, I don't look so. So you you can certainly incident now, how do you. Ricky? Yeah, I can yeah. Well, just. Yeah. So just so you know what you got monster in my pocket. Look at them. That shit, that's like something that's like something some sort of fucking someone who'd been dropped on their head as a baby would play with would just.

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Just touch. And then. And then, like, not thinking, I've just typed in muscle men and and lots of greasy muscle men. They're not not the toys that I'm off. Just type muscle men. 80s I right. Okay. Yeah, I've got them. You got them. Yeah. Yeah, but they are so much better than your shitty little monster.

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My pocket. No, not at all. My fluorescent colors, for fuck's. Yeah, exactly. Totally different colors. That's just one beige color. It's like a paint. The skin color. Yeah, the other color. Even the great. Even as. Even as a kid, I thought why they chose this color, like mainstream, pockets. They could glow in the dark. Different colors, different types of, like, monsters and stuff.

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Like, I always remember this is classic time in my first go, and it's one of my favorite memories. And we'd all boo in our monster in My pockets, and we'd all kind of be sharing, showing who's got what. And Wayne had an insane collection. He had all the 100 point ers. He'd spend a lot of money on it.

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We had to have Wayne's collection. It was the fucking greatest. And then at playtime, we all went to go to our little trays to pull them out, to go and play with our monster in my pockets. There was a problem, but there was a noise coming from Wayne's mouth and tears rolling down his eyes. Someone had stolen all of Wayne's monster in my pockets, right?

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Is this something only you know? Rick? No, no no no, I was I got. No, it wasn't me. You were easy to steal. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, I would, I would, I would, but and then the teacher found out and there's like know 20 kids in the class. So we all have to line up and the teacher goes through everybody's tray one by one, and we're always saying, no, no, no, we haven't got it, we haven't got it.

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And one tray opens nothing. Tray opens. Is he stolen the mini mini tray. Put them in his tray. I ain't got them back. But you know you can't go stealing other means. What's his name, boy? Solo. Navin. Navin, you haven't got something that won't be if we get him to go. What I want you to remember. And this is, you know, 41, 41.

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And this is, this follows you around. It follows you around like a play. It's like when you shoot yourself. It's a it's going to leave you. Right? It's something you did. You gotta live with that. Oh, no shit. I wish you would leave me. I really wish it would leave me. Did you ever used to collect him magazines?

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I always used to. I collect, yeah, collected this magazine when I was a kid. Beano magazine was. Wasn't this magazine like skewer? That's like a British institution. Beano. Yeah, yeah, I didn't really like Beano. I only collected it because my mates collected it and. Hang on. It used to come over for a free two suite. Sometimes. It did.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I collected Beano every single week. I didn't miss one. And my mum used to say so you buy going to be know. Now this is kids. We were better age. We had it better like fucking kids. Now I don't even look at each other to speak to each other. Just their heads in their fucking phones.

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When we was kids, it was the Beano man, for like it was £0.20 and for 30 minutes of a Saturday. When it came out of Thursday, I think it dropped on. Yeah, you were lost. And my mum used to say I would sit down and read it cover to cover and they said, oh, there he is. He's lost in Beano Town.

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I had all the animals that used to get the annuals. Rick. So did you read it? No, not really, he just picked it up into it. I just picked up because my mates bought it. My good. They were buying them, their mates. I suppose I should buy it as well to be. Oh, so you know, it was nearly willy nilly.

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I would have to come to blows because I thought using this I preferred the dandy. The dandy was read by mugs. Yeah. See, I always read The Dandy Beano. The Beano was a proper lad, lads. That's. Yeah, yeah, yeah it's that. But Beano is like Dennis the Menace. Yeah, yeah. Beano's Street kids, Dennis the Menace, Minnie the Menace, Billy Whizz, you know, you do that then I didn't.

00:29:29:00 – 00:29:48:06
Yeah. Gnasher dog. Gnasher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, mate, it was quality. And, you know, I fell out of love with it. I was probably getting older, but they changed the artwork. So the old artwork, the 80s artwork, I loved it. I love the way it looks drawn. The way eggs were drawn in it.

00:29:48:06 – 00:30:07:20
That's the way I wanted fried eggs all the time. Because you read the Beano. Yeah, yeah, sausages as well. But eggs and sausages. And then they changed the artwork and it was like, this is crap. No. Fuck it, you fucked it. It's like, imagine if they even they they stuff you for some transfer the chapters. Transformers the movie Ricky 1981 cartoon.

00:30:08:01 – 00:30:30:17
And they just made it like manga. It was exactly the same. It all just like manga. It would. It was. The artwork's really important. Yeah. It's, they have done that with Transformers as well. I mean, absolutely disgusts me to my fucking bone it comes from. And you're right, you're right. You were right. Yeah, I know, but it's just the way you marketed it to me before.

00:30:30:17 – 00:31:04:05
I just just do it like that. It wasn't broken. Don't try and fix it. Let's let's, you know, let's be serious about this. It also I just remembering back this went into my middle ages as well. And I guess a lot of people would have done this. Keyrings why did I have an insane amount of keyrings like from any kind of place I would visit on holiday, any shop I went in, I'd buy Kings just to buy.

00:31:04:05 – 00:31:27:21
I think I was just addicted to trying to get this big ring of keyrings that I made. It didn't really mean. I mean, I remember that it was a good it was like, I don't even remember. It went even as far as when I was, 17. I remember buying a this was probably the last straw, actually, when I went to Magaluf for my was it Macarena?

00:31:27:21 – 00:31:56:00
15 or 18, ten, a wreath, maybe 17, and I bought a keyring from their big nightclub and I think it could be kgms. And then after I put that, because keyring on my massive amount of keys, I was like, this is your stop record. That's enough. You've taken it too far. You've gone to a nightclub to buy a key ring, to add it to your keyring collection mate, you're you're touching the extent of 18.

00:31:56:01 – 00:32:20:06
You need to have a word. Oh, what did the key ring? 13 to Ricky? Nothing, really. Is that true, Ricky? Because I know what happened. I know what they told it without going. As an adult, you felt better. Drop the key rings that look like a proper dog. Yeah, yeah. Let's go to Scarface. From the football. And you just talking about going to a nightclub to find a key ring.

00:32:20:08 – 00:32:38:21
Do you remember what we had today? Challenge, which we've talked about is how desperately you want your scarf that was taken off you by a. It's interesting you've mentioned this because I haven't even got this in. I haven't written this in the running order. This is one of my hobbies, actual hobbies, collectibles. And this is one of the probably the most important ones to me.

00:32:38:21 – 00:33:06:11
So if you don't know that Flav and I, we follow our football club, Tottenham. And during our early 20s, early 30s, we would go and watch Tottenham away in Europe and had the most fun ever. If you ever have a football team and they get into Europe, do everything you possibly can to go and watch them in Europe, I'll just say that.

00:33:06:13 – 00:33:31:03
But I used to collect half and half scarves. Now hear me out. I know, I know, I know what you're thinking. You may have turned the pod off already, but please bear with me. I bought half an off scarves when we played against European teams. Also, you don't have to qualify that right because for those that no. If you think of a half an off scarf, the one that discuss you, it's Manchester City versus Manchester United.

00:33:31:03 – 00:33:59:07
Arsenal or Tottenham versus Chelsea, all those things. Yeah, the Premier League ones. There's a long standing culture in football where when English players sorry, when English teams travel in Europe, do you do an exchange like my dad during the 70s, 60s and 70s, he would find opposing fans and they would swap pin badges with each other. My home had a jar full of pin badges from other clubs of other other teams that Spurs are played and half life scarves in Europe.

00:33:59:07 – 00:34:29:14
One. The one. This is this way before you had domestic half life scarves. So that's the that's the sort of grounding of what he was doing. It wasn't like the cringing thing that is now. Yeah. But so I've got in my loft, I've got two plastic containers neatly folded, half and half scarf for everywhere I've traveled in Europe watching my football team, and the home games as well, got loads Europa League, Champions League anyway, haven't I?

00:34:29:14 – 00:34:55:01
We went to Prague. I bought a half an hour scarf and we were picked up with our group and we frequented a a topless bar. So it was a strip. It was a strip. Strip joint was the same in it. Strip joint, I don't know. We walk around just to the shop and I think the hand I did, I did that backs out.

00:34:55:03 – 00:35:30:03
Yeah, it did have baps out, but I did see some fresh air as well. So that was that was my first, I think, as my first ever ecstasy pill that night. It was. Yeah. Yes. I don't really remember. I do. Remember really good. And I had a Slavia Prague and Tottenham half and half scarf and one of the exotic dances shall we say, took it off my neck and used it in her performance.

00:35:30:05 – 00:36:00:06
So this bar was packed out full of Tottenham fans. She had my scarf and was, you know, using the club emblem to her then to. Yeah, yeah, I. At to, to kind of whip the crowd into a frenzy with the Tottenham badge being there and her with the Tottenham scarf and it was all going great. I was a little bit kind of a mind you, your, your body is very oiled up and the scarf is going everywhere.

00:36:00:09 – 00:36:23:19
Yeah, I'll deal with that. Then she walked off stage and didn't hand me my scarf back. Gone. Gone into the night? Yeah. Then what happened? Most people would just go, oh well that's that gone. What did you do? I, I went backstage and no, we left and she was like, I need this job. I can't leave the scarf.

00:36:23:21 – 00:36:45:09
And he knocks on the office. Can. Scuse me. She's just, Yes. My. Can I have my scarf back, please? Fuck off. You didn't get it. You had to buy another one of the internet. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, they, there is a Tottenham half an off somewhere. Somewhere? Prague and Tottenham, I hope. I'm hoping it's still like it's just pinned up as a as a trophy in their, in their office.

00:36:45:09 – 00:37:29:09
But yeah, I never got it back. And I had to buy one of these. So just, you know, it's it's not as fun, is it, really? No, I am another thing as well that. Sorry I got him off right here. The I didn't actually used to collect these, but my dad, for some reason, and dad and I be this, and he buys me commemorative coins and he gives them to me, like, as an investment, like, you know, when there's a royal family wedding, when it's the 80th anniversary of the, RAF.

00:37:29:11 – 00:37:48:01
Yeah, I know what you mean. Jubilee. Yeah, all that stuff. And he buys them for me for, like, a fiver, and they come in their commemorative cases. I've got loads of them in my loft. What am I going to do them dads. What the. They're never going to increase in value. No. Well you don't know what you're talking about there.

00:37:48:03 – 00:38:10:15
You're just assuming because this is what I've just found on the Royal mint.com. Yeah. This is what they sell to you. That is going to increase in value. And nothing ever fucking does. Gold and silver proof commemorative coins are minted in limited numbers. They are. This makes them valuable and more collectible is they're less of them produced, and many collectors are keen to add them to their collections.

00:38:10:17 – 00:38:30:14
So there you go. That's true. Yeah. If was gold. So that is the marketing they have given to my father, and he has decided to buy me loads of stuff like that. So I've got loads of those in my, in my life, but it's not really meant to. Sovereign rings. Yeah. Okay. Now I might do that today. That'd be that.

00:38:30:14 – 00:38:58:14
That would be cool. I just remembered about the, that story is going to tell you when I was younger, I, my dad, he he used to take me to Tottenham. And when we played away, he used to take me to the ice hockey. And we used to go and watch Milton Keynes Kings and the. They were, they were good and I used to, I got really into ice hockey and I used to buy all these, ice hockey magazines called Power Play.

00:38:58:16 – 00:39:21:18
Did you? Yeah. And under my bed there was just drool. And I used to. They were filled with these programs. I had hundreds of them collecting them. Then I y, absolutely loved it. One day when I was younger, I was deciding to create them out. Then I, you know, maybe just get rid of them, sell them, whatever.

00:39:21:18 – 00:39:44:14
And I was motivated to going five by five, ten by ten, putting them onto the floor. And I got to the very bottom of them. What did you find Rick found a couple of porno mag. Yes, a new. You get to say that this happens to every kid you know. Is what? What is it? It's almost certainly. Dad's hiding them there so that mum buy that.

00:39:44:16 – 00:40:03:19
My mum and dad split up when I was 5 or 6. So it wasn't my dad's and it was my head. Mum was like, I, I'm like mum's, mum's got, mum's got fixed up.

00:40:03:21 – 00:40:30:20
So in my mind I was like, I don't know what that thought process was, but it was like, I've just found loads of porn mags. I'm 13, 14. I'm gonna obviously look at these, rub one out and then forget about it. Put back. Did that, put them back? And this kept happening. And every time I noticed that the magazines were being placed in different places and stuff like that.

00:40:30:21 – 00:40:52:21
Yeah. And I was like, what is going on? And I couldn't work out. Mum's, it was my mum's, it was my mum's partner. Yeah. And he was hiding them in my room. Yeah. Obviously disguise the fact that they were his. But at that time it didn't even occur to me that there was a man living in my house.

00:40:52:23 – 00:41:16:16
Oh, no mags in my bedroom. You just. You just. Nothing much I could project would just like, oh, fuck me. And this is how porn gets around. So when I was, I was, I would I was like, I must be in my 20s. My little brother was about 14. Seven year age gap. Right over. Like, you know, he's really interested, you know, at an age.

00:41:16:20 – 00:41:41:01
So I just gave him one of my videos. I had. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's just I think you, you know, take that into yourself. Anyway. Mum found it. No, he did gross me up straight away. That's Gary's, that's Gary. Didn't take he didn't say, I didn't say. Oh, you know, my brothers do me a solid. They're but not gross him up straight away.

00:41:41:01 – 00:42:11:04
That's Gary's. Didn't even finish his sentence. That's Gary, not mine. Not my. You know my not think that of me. I would never. You where? I'm an old man now. But much like how I am, do you actually have any hobbies or interests now? Work? Works, work. But what is that? Your hobbies and interest? Work. You just football in them.

00:42:11:06 – 00:42:35:06
Fuck you all. So football is a release for lots of men, right? And women. Yeah. Out there. And it offers it offers respite, respite from everyday life. But when we used to go football when we were younger, Rick, like you would when Spurs kicked off, everything disappeared. It was just a game. It was just. Yeah, you know. And in the pub for you, having a chat, lots of banter, lots of laughs, everything.

00:42:35:06 – 00:42:56:00
The world disappears. It's amazing. It's magical. Still is. It is amazing, right? Yeah. For you. For me, it's completely different. Yeah. It's every minute of the day. I'm thinking about football. And not just Spurs other football, and I don't. I'm not complaining. I've managed to make a business out of, talking about football, which is a dream, right?

00:42:56:00 – 00:43:18:08
Because I'm not, I'm not. There's nothing against sort of manual labor or anything like that, but, I don't have to do that. And instead I can just sit here and talk about football. I'm really thankful and fortunate of it. But as ruined, my favorite hobby, yeah, I can. Yeah, I there is that saying that, you know choose something that you love doing.

00:43:18:08 – 00:43:37:23
You're on your own, never work well in your life. And there is part of me that would be thinking, if you get into that industry and you're doing the thing that you love over and over again, then you do get the natural things, as in every jobs, the bits and the parts that you hate to do, but you have to do it because it's a job.

00:43:37:23 – 00:44:10:17
It would kind of sully that it's it's like it knows how beautiful the woman is that you marry the the actual physical appearance of it becomes less and less important over time. And what's inside is important, right? Yeah. That that's a big difference when most relationships don't last because the physical attraction disappears. Like the magic of talking about football for a living isn't what it was.

00:44:10:19 – 00:44:30:18
Yeah, but it's interesting just in terms of hobbies, the Fighting Cock, which is a podcast. The other one we do that was a hobby for many, many years. That was something you did to keep stay sane, to hated work or didn't hate my work, but just it was it was work. It was a lot to spend 40 hours a week at work when I'd rather be anywhere else.

00:44:30:18 – 00:44:49:03
Really. That's what most people like in their jobs. And my hobby, my thing that I focused on, the thing that I had on top of anything else, or next everyone else's, was the final podcast that was like every Monday doing that meeting. The boys have a few beers, drink, you know, record a podcast, put it out and see what happens.

00:44:49:07 – 00:45:09:18
That was like that was that was that was it. And that's and that was a hobby for eight years. And we didn't miss miss a single Monday in eight years while football is on. It was amazing. So much fun. Yeah. And it just goes to show that like how like hobbies, the hobby is like a flippant phrase. It's almost when you said, yeah, hobby.

00:45:09:18 – 00:45:39:04
It's like something that isn't important, isn't it? Rick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But actually that crucial hobby, having hobbies or having interests outside of what you're required to do each days, it keeps you sane. I think for me, I so football, as you said, is so kind of, prevalent in my life that not only doing the, you know, the Tottenham podcast as well, fighting cock, going to the games every other Saturday.

00:45:39:06 – 00:46:09:19
It affects my moods, affects everything and any football team that you support it will do exactly the same to you. Now I've tried to I've tried to make a life for myself where that isn't the be all and end all because it badly affects me so badly that I can't just have that one. Kind of beating light in my life because it's Tottenham and it would never fucking.

00:46:09:19 – 00:46:31:09
It was like a broken lighthouse, if that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, you can hit the road. Right. So fishing. You fishing I love fishing. My dad took me as a kid. I absolutely love it. I still go have my uncles, and mates as well. And again, when I go fishing, it isn't actually just catching fish. And the amount of fish I catch.

00:46:31:10 – 00:47:01:17
The eye catching fish. Oh fuck yeah, yeah, it's just about spinning the yarn. Having a chat. It's the. It's about sitting out. There is no greater feeling when you're at a lake early in the morning. Dawn is breaking and the mist is just coming up off the lake like ghosts dancing on the lake. And then you can hear the flutters in the reeds of the ducks and swans waking up.

00:47:01:17 – 00:47:25:02
And you can hear wildlife and stuff like that. And in there you've got a coffee, you've got cigaret. It's like 5 or 6 in the morning, the world is asleep, and you've just got that time to think and, to kind of just take everything in and it's beautiful. And you get loads of, you know, glimmers of that throughout the day when you're fishing with you on a river, a canal or whatever.

00:47:25:02 – 00:47:47:03
And it's one of those places where and things like day one never look at my phone, never thinking to get it out. Never is it do anything. Yeah. It it number one, it ruins it. And number two, I've been handed in maggots and and fish and I don't really want to get it on my phone as well, but yeah, but for the point of the story be ruined.

00:47:47:03 – 00:48:07:11
And it would be better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might get flesh on your phone. You can. You just described a wonderful moment, right? Of just the mist, the ghosts coming off the lake. That is beautiful, rich. And then now, then when I look at my phone, here's a bit magic juice on it, for fuck's so. Well, doing that, I know I play, but Rick moves.

00:48:07:11 – 00:48:27:14
And what I'm saying is, is that if you the minute you when you're in that beautiful serenity in that. Yeah, you know, you're in with nature and you're doing something that. No. What, like there's 0.1%. The people are less than that. How few people are doing what you're doing in the UK at that stage, maybe a thousand in the 60 million people, you're doing something that no one else is doing, right.

00:48:27:16 – 00:49:06:21
And then if you was to pick up your phone, would you get a fucking barrage of WhatsApp messages, the news pinging on you, Twitter notifications. So, so, so that kind of distraction from everyday life that you can get from a hobby like fishing, you keep people alive sane, mate. Totally. It is almost like you're stepping back into your normal world when you pick up your phone and you've had that much amount of time away from it, and you go back into it and, you know, open it again, like you signed the notifications and this, that and the other who's raging about what and stuff.

00:49:06:23 – 00:49:27:20
It's it's mad that this tiny device can can suck so much enjoyment out of you. But do you? I as kind of you were saying about like, is there any world where you're looking at a hobby or thinking, you know what I.

00:49:27:22 – 00:49:53:11
I want to do something. I want to pick something else up in my life, like I at the stage now or what. I'm certainly at this stage of my life where I'm, early 40s. My kids are growing up. Most of the time they're playing out outside. I'm at home either, like working and if I if I'm not fishing or anything like that, there's just, you know, Netflix, whatever.

00:49:53:13 – 00:50:16:03
Is there any part of you that's like, I want a new hobby, I want I want a new interest. I want something else to do. I think this person that you're saying that's in the woods, bored, and filming myself, saying, I don't know what to do, got nothing to do. Yeah. She needs inspiration, but like, so.

00:50:16:05 – 00:50:38:23
But it's hard. You can't sometimes a lot of people just wait for it to come, don't they? And it's hard to figure out what you want to do. Like, I have periods where depends on. So if my wife's at home, I'm fun. I'm absolutely fine. She's there. Everything's fine. But if she's not, I do get these periods of, like, what do I do?

00:50:39:00 – 00:50:58:24
What am I doing? What do I do myself? I've done. I've been in the office for 8 or 9 hours today. Yeah, I've done quite a lot. Done now my own. What do I do if she's not here? But she's not great. It's not a no. Because I think about that and I think about my sorry to get a bit morbid, but my nan and granddad, they were together, they lived in each other's pockets.

00:50:58:24 – 00:51:26:10
And then when my nan. But my granddad died, I didn't know what to do with the remaining fucking 14 years of her life. She just sat there and like, that needs to be. There needs to be space to keep land. Gibran what's his name? Jaleel. Guy. Abram I think his name is. He's like a prophet. It's called. He wrote a book called The Prophet Kahlil Gibran I think it's called I Think His Name.

00:51:26:10 – 00:51:48:08
And he said, let there be spaces in your togetherness among the spaces you need to fill them with stuff that you're interested that defines you as an, as a, as a, as a human being, as a not your partnership. But what do you do? What do you fill that time with in order to nourish yourself? Whether that might be going to the gym, reading, playing fucking Warhammer, computer games, whatever it is.

00:51:48:10 – 00:52:15:23
How do you feel that time? So that's something I struggle with. I need to work. I'm need to find another hobby. Yeah, it's this is reminding me of that, Danny Dyer monologue in Football Factory. What are you going to what are you going to do on a Saturday night? Yeah, yeah. Why? Wanking off to pop idols, trying to avoid the gays from your sexless marriage, banking money on fucking kebabs and and, beer and prostitutes.

00:52:16:00 – 00:52:44:15
I know what I'd rather be doing. That's what think NFTs and cryptocurrency fucking, And, yeah, I, I kind of didn't get that, but I, I'm just going to really lean into fishing just the amount of times I need to get myself going. You know, when you're sitting there and you think, just watching Only Fools and Horses again, I listen because when you sound great, it just feels like there's so much equipment, so much stuff you have to take.

00:52:44:16 – 00:53:03:11
Yeah, that that's that's the thing. That's the thing. That's that's what prevents you from going. I'm just going to put my trainers on and walk out the door because it isn't. You've got to get bait ready. You've got to get all this other stuff right. Did you mean bait ready. What does that mean? So if I depending on what type of fishing, carp fishing, what would you do?

00:53:03:12 – 00:53:24:05
Okay, if it was carp fishing, then I'd have wellies and I'd have to either go to the tackle shop to buy booties, or if I had them in my freezer, there was a boiling. So the easiest way is to describe it as, an 18 mil ball. Yeah. And you get you can get them in different flavors. That's it.

00:53:24:07 – 00:53:43:15
Oh right. So they just so they're little bits of fish or shrimp or Brian or what. You can't you can't get them in in this like so just we'll just call it a doble sort. So packed into like a little ball that you can put on a on a and so yeah it's it, you don't put it. Oh this is really ridiculous.

00:53:43:15 – 00:54:03:24
But you don't actually put it onto, onto the hook. You put it onto a hair rig. So the hair is a bit that comes off the hook. You don't put it on the hook. And this ball sits on this bit of string that's just below the hook. Because when carp, when they eat food, they suck it in, and they make they suck the hook in.

00:54:03:24 – 00:54:29:15
It goes in with that boy at a service. These dough balls that have many different flavors, colors, sweeteners, additives depending on where you fish in what they like. And you bait up with those, though that will attract them visually. The smell in the wool, they're still eating them. There'll be loads of free bites and they're not fucking, getting a free meal where then they'll start smashing.

00:54:29:18 – 00:54:58:20
The confidence will come up. Then all of a sudden, what are you saying? You saying the carp know not to go near bait with hooks? They. There is so many underwater footage of carp being spooked by anglers. Hooks? There's hundreds of bait on the floor, so like I'm not. If you fucking mugs. I ain't going for that. And right they they they create in fishing.

00:54:58:20 – 00:55:18:18
They've created so many different rigs and ways to hook a carp that if they suck the body up, there is no way you can get it at its mouth. No way. In the underwater filming this carp, they've sucked in and blown out 3 or 4 times. What? The hook and the hook. That is what I want to get out.

00:55:18:20 – 00:55:37:11
I want to blow it out. They know they can feel it. The consensus. Yeah, is not right. It's not natural. And they blow it out. And people are amazed that they created these products. That 100% will hook any fish. And they're watching these fish right? No, no, no, I unwrap it not and they blow it out and they go on to another bit of rig.

00:55:37:16 – 00:55:56:15
So they said as you companies creating hooks and baiting systems that are supposed to trick the carp so that they can't not catch them. Yeah. Well, I mean, the trick, the anglers to think that they, it is never a 100% scientific method to say this is going to hook every single fish. What does the angler actually do?

00:55:56:16 – 00:56:15:19
So the, the creating all these gimmicks that, that capture the carp. Well, you see this chocolate hook in a, in a river really don't you. And just hope in a lake and and hoping something happens. I, you know, whoever came up with the device designed it well enough so you can catch a fish. We're going to go on to the next bit of this because I know what you're doing.

00:56:15:21 – 00:56:39:18
You only make me angry. But some of the people have sent in Warhammer models. Like, love that Brazilian jiu jitsu someone has sent in. Yeah, as a hobby. I mean, that doesn't like people banging on about that. Like, you always hear people saying, it's like a life changing thing, but I just don't want, yeah, sweaty, ringworm, all that sort of stuff that you get when rolling around in sweaty places.

00:56:39:20 – 00:56:56:02
Me like, I'm like five foot seven a week as fuck everyone. That's just going to time in an hour every single week. I just thought, oh yeah, it money. And I'm not. I don't want to be. I don't want people to pop in money on a Thursday night. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I like my ears not to be cauliflower.

00:56:56:04 – 00:57:23:06
Yeah. Thank you very much. Dungeons and Dragons. Someone plays Dungeons and Dragons via discord. Do they? Yeah. Yeah. Well, one idea we talked about that last week, there was. There was. I will never understand Dungeons and Dragons. And I've talked to Charlie, our mate who's, you know, going to go fishing with as well. And he tried to explain it to me, but it's all about how good the players are with you and how well they explain the world, the which you're playing in.

00:57:23:08 – 00:57:56:08
So there's a lot of storytelling involved, and everyone's playing a character. Man, that sounds it's almost like acting. That doesn't sound up my stream. Is that so, I guess. Hey, something out of the Knights. Yeah, that. That's just not. That's not. That's not me. That's not me. And then the last one, aftershave. Fragrance. Sorry. So if you if you look at the hashtag frag comm frag c o m, there's a fragrance commune, apparently.

00:57:56:10 – 00:58:20:22
And these guys buy the most expensive aftershave and fragrance going. I'm not sure that's that. That's another, that's more of the. What is that? Someone who listens to us? Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't understand that. In that. So. So what they collect is a collectible thing, then is it collecting rare fragrances that no one else has or just buying it?

00:58:20:22 – 00:58:38:20
Yeah, because I think it's just really expensive ones personally. But then they get into how the how it's broken down and how the, how they get to the point where the smell is the way it is. That's, that is a hobby. Yeah. Yeah. That is the same way I get into drinking wine and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, for sure.

00:58:38:22 – 00:59:04:07
Yeah. Have you seen the, the I mean, it's not anyone that I know, but I saw it when I was researching for them. But hobby horses and people that, tournaments where people have, you know, those wooden stick hobby horses between their legs and they, they, they jump. Yeah. They pretend like, pretend to be like air guitar.

00:59:04:07 – 00:59:24:15
Almost, but I don't I don't understand that. Have you seen the ones where they actually kick the shit out of each other? They like me, but they're in dressed in armor and they've got swords in that, and they are fucking never in each other like it's a fight. Except they've just given two people armor. I like that as.

00:59:24:17 – 00:59:47:06
Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, the the the hobby horse thing. That's a, that's a strange one. And air guitar competitions again. That's it, that's it, that's it. I know, but look if they're not, they're not fucking shooting up party. They're not. Yeah. Yeah yeah. If anybody, if they're getting their their release in that way then power to them.

00:59:47:12 – 01:00:20:15
We have a dilemma again this week. This one's the fucking, Jesus Christ that this is a a powerful dilemma. Is it? And something only you know, the dilemma is called should we be friends and something only you know is what a bloody mess. The topic for next week is America, right? America? Fuck, yeah. You know what I always think of, the motherfucking day?

01:00:20:15 – 01:01:06:17
Yeah, a lot of people go to that. I go to Eminem's America song, white America, white America. This time this is one America. Yeah. Love it. So anything that you have any stories of when you've traveled to America, anything you'd like to see in the US? Send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com. So I, we're going to be talking about the places that we really want to visit, the places that we don't want to visit, and just any general questions about America that we have debate the way the British see America and Americans.

01:01:06:19 – 01:01:31:22
I'm not I'm not going to say it's like not slagging them off, but I know is that. No, no, it's like, you know, the the kind of the stereotypes of what Britain perceives as America, the culture, how we, I love America. I like it's one of those places that I would go on holiday every single year to a different place each year.

01:01:32:03 – 01:01:59:07
But I hate flying, so I don't know how I'm going to sort that one out. But anyway, if you've got anything to forum for America, send it into the email address. Now you are going to listen to the dilemma called Should We be Friends? Just, just you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad and will give you an aching in your soul, alone in your flat.

01:01:59:13 – 01:02:35:00
Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friends, you deserve this place. Like you're safe here to get nice and warm between Vicky, your land. Writing in from America. Recently moved into a new place. And an old college roommate of mine just moved in with me. This weekend. It come from another city. We'd fallen out of touch a little bit, but we're still very good friends and I'm glad he's moved here.

01:02:35:02 – 01:03:08:23
He has some female friends in my city I met this past weekend and they were all great and according to him, they all want to keep hanging out with us. To to to wait. A few of them followed me on Instagram. Jeez. Let's go, let's go. The problem is that one of the girls in the group who I met and who is such a lovely person, has late stage cancer, and has moved to her lungs and sadly likely to be fatal.

01:03:09:00 – 01:03:31:16
In the last seven years I have lost three grandparents, two uncles to cancer, and last year my dad had it. Thankfully, he'd be here and it's not likely to face it again. But I'm reticent to enter into her friendship with the girl. I know that is likely not to be around the corner. I want to preface this that this isn't a romantic thing.

01:03:31:22 – 01:03:53:02
She's not particularly. No, I won't read that. He doesn't find her yet. But I'm not sure how to handle my roommate being so eager for us to be friends with them. And specifically her. What do I do?

01:03:53:04 – 01:04:16:22
That is a dealing of a pickle. That is, get drunk and have sex with her. Give her something. Mate. No, he's he's reaction is trauma based, right. So people been listen to this and be going, well, what's your deal? What's your deal? Just be friends of a man. You don't know what? She's not going to ask you to finally carry it to the bathroom.

01:04:16:22 – 01:04:48:05
Make sure she's clean and shit. Yeah, yeah, it's not going to be that level, but it doesn't matter for him. He's recoiling because of all of this horrendous shit he's gone through. So may understand it because for you, this friendship group is connected to traumatic experiences of the past and what your friend hasn't had those traumatic experiences, he isn't going to react in the same way.

01:04:48:07 – 01:05:06:03
But then mate, you're missing. You could potentially be missing out on some amazing experiences with these new friends, and it's not on you to help this girl or fix her, or make a better other than, you know, in a new friendship. How much? It's not like she's going to be confiding in you significantly, is it? So you're on the periphery.

01:05:06:03 – 01:05:29:01
She has all these other friends that are going to help out do that. What do you think? I would say I would have I have a word we might say, oh, I love hang around with all of them. And I would say the history of what's happened in your family and your friends and stuff like that and say, look, man, I can't go through another getting close to another person.

01:05:29:03 – 01:06:00:24
I'm being taken from cancer and just I'm just adding to this kind of obviously emotional state that you've, that you're in because of that. And then say to them, I like I will continue to hang around with people, but I just want you to know that there will be some time that I might duck out if this person is coming, or that I will make a kind of no, no, no, not it.

01:06:00:24 – 01:06:26:00
And I kind of avoid her or anything like that, but just to let them know what the situation is and say, I don't want to get into too close to you guys. And when you're all sitting at a table and you're just opposite this person all the time, you don't want to get in those situations. And obviously, if the, if the situation arises that you will kind of, you know, have a chat with her and stuff up.

01:06:26:02 – 01:06:43:14
But just to bear in mind, when we're going out and doing all these activities and she's there, that I might kind of take a bit of a backseat in the social group and stuff like, and it's not because I'm being horrible, it's because I have other issues that I've had to deal with, and I don't want to go through that again.

01:06:43:14 – 01:06:58:17
And I think that's fair. Yeah, I think it's fair to say you don't be confronted by or all of the pain you felt by losing other family members to be brought up in your social setting. This is completely understandable. But this isn't something you can run away from either, is it? All of us have to face it.

01:06:58:17 – 01:07:25:00
All of us. All of us. Almost all of us have faced cancer in their family at some stage. This. It's going to happen again. You don't want to run away from this group if there's potentially some good. But you could negotiate how much exposure you have to this. This girl. Yeah. If you're not even something you need to talk about, I think you can manage this without saying anything.

01:07:25:02 – 01:07:40:08
Like, you can always make excuses for not doing specific things. You can. You can say, I can't do it because of X, Y and Z or, and only a couple of occasions you might have to spend time together. You just sort of handle it in the way you would do, but you can kind of manage your situation.

01:07:40:08 – 01:08:02:00
I would manage the situation rather than cutting it all off. Yeah, I don't make it obvious. I always it's Carol, it's Carol. Come in. Nah, I'm not coming. No no no no no. Oh. Suddenly, it's Carol coming. Oh, she's not coming here. Come here. Yeah, yeah. Put me down. Yeah, yeah. Currently that and, but, it is a bit of a dilemma, but.

01:08:02:02 – 01:08:27:07
Yeah. And, yeah, it's as I'm saying, you can find ways to not have yourself, you know, exposed to that situation as much. Best of luck with that one, mate. Yeah, we are now. Yeah, it is, it is very tough. We are not going to go into something only, you know.

01:08:27:08 – 01:08:34:09
Something, you know.

01:08:34:11 – 01:09:03:10
While at uni, I was on an all night session with a few of the lads where far too many chemicals had been enjoyed. A couple of the lads were doing film studies and had just been doing a module on fake cuts. They'd been practicing their skills, which had resulted in them doing some of this. That night while we sat around in their halls of residence, they had produced some very realistic slashes across one of the guys chest and torso.

01:09:03:11 – 01:09:26:22
They were proper, decent. We had some half baked idea about going out and scaring someone. It was 6 a.m. as we traveled the halls of residence looking for a hatch of lights on, we came across one and got in position. The guy with the cuts was banging loudly on the front door, which is full of glass and see through.

01:09:26:24 – 01:09:53:22
Then about six foot behind him was me and the other chap holding back another guy with a large kitchen knife. I could Lord, oh my lord, a young woman appeared at the door, or without opening it started screaming and panicking before running off back into the house. Our job was complete and we'd like it back to their house, all thinking how hilarious we.

01:09:53:24 – 01:10:29:11
Over the next two weeks, a couple of the chaps got pulled in by uni staff and narrowly avoided being kicked out of uni. Rofl. With six months and I'm on a night out in town just at the bar trying to order drinks. Got chatting to a bird. She seemed pretty hot and was going well. Then she started telling me that she just returned to uni after having to go back to her parents house after a rather harrowing morning she had suffered, as I'm sure you would guess, she was the victim of the chemical induced hose slasher.

01:10:29:13 – 01:10:53:19
I fucked off the drink and headed off to a different bar. Rather large, rather lively. And that is something only I know fucking hell about. These drugs. But can you, can you imagine? Right. Actually, last night. But before I went to bed, it was a bit of a late one. It says, like quarter to quarter, two in the morning, having a little ciggie.

01:10:53:21 – 01:11:22:23
And next door to me, I could hear their doorbell guy. It's quarter two in the morning. Yeah, maybe, sir, why is that doorbell going? And I was not thinking to myself, would I answer that? How would I answer it? What would go? What would be going through my head? I would be upstairs with my children in their bed sleeping, and my missus, and I'd have to go downstairs and open the door to see who was running my doorbell.

01:11:23:00 – 01:11:42:16
Not I mean, that's in itself is fucking madness. But then to see someone who's been sliced across the chest, yeah, it's night and then someone brandishing a knife in London. I've had a few people where we lived in Crouch End. Those few people that you said knock on your door, just. I don't know if they thought they were drunk.

01:11:42:16 – 01:11:59:11
We didn't know the right place. I remember one guy, he was banging on door. I had, like, a ring. That was before ring doorbells. It was like I had a monitor in in my flat. I could see him. He'd put in the doors and be fucking in. So you were at the wrong house. This is like three in the morning.

01:11:59:13 – 01:12:19:22
Woke us up. I ain't in the wrong house. This is my fucking house. Don't tell me. Say my house. Let me fucking in. And I'm say I'm not a new inmate because this isn't your house. I'll let you in. There's only one door between your me and you. Yeah, you guys, I'm just going to see you. Then I'm going to see in the end banging.

01:12:19:22 – 01:12:41:24
And I open the door and had to show him in to the hallway, say, look, this isn't this isn't your house. He. Oh, fuck. Sorry, mate. We've convinced this is my house. So for I sake, go and see you later. You actually open the door? He wasn't going. He wasn't going anywhere. It was free in the morning. Everyone needs to go to sleep, so deal with it some way.

01:12:42:01 – 01:12:55:19
What a cool doorbell. I said, look, my. If you can keep doing that, I'm calling out Bill, so it's up to you if you want to get arrested. Fuck you. Now he's kicking you. Doing. You let him in. Wait. Calm down a bit. By then we were having a chat on the phone, was I? If I let you in, have a little look round.

01:12:55:19 – 01:13:16:06
You're going to skin you guys. All right. But he ended up doing it again. Did you see the story? I just saw it this morning. That bloke, that broke took his son for a walk. His six year old son, at 6 a.m. in the morning for a walk around the neighborhood. Police thought he was a nonce and tackled into ground and beat him up.

01:13:16:08 – 01:13:42:03
Oh my God, that is Jesus Christ man. Let me see it in England, not America. Fuck. You know, let them bricks. Yeah. I mean, we can discuss that in the, in the next episode. America, America. So as you've just heard, the next episode is going to be on America. Send us any questions that you have. We can ask Americans.

01:13:42:03 – 01:14:03:11
We know a lot of them. So we can get your questions over to them. Any places that you've been that is maybe isn't down the well-trodden route that other people go to. Any little secrets you've got that you want to tell us or mental experiences might experience you out in America? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've I've got a couple actually.

01:14:03:13 – 01:14:29:22
I think I might have told them but I'll tell them again anyway. But yeah. Send it into lads anon pod at gmail.com. And if you want to follow us on social we are on Instagram. We are on tick tock, we're on Twitter, we're on France, Rome, Facebook. And it's all the same handle at lads anon pod and we will see you next Monday.

01:14:29:24 – 01:14:56:06
On the night, hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Lover music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek banners. And we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.