#32 | Near Death Experiences | how Ricky didn’t die is a miracle

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May fucking. When you sent that message at like, what was it, half ten, 11 at night last night. And you were like, oh, Mike, can we move the pod back to 1130? And I was like, what is he going on about? And you're like, we're doing the pod Monday because, when we need to move things around. And you sent me a calendar and I looked at my calendar, invite and there was an invoice that I sent for 10:00 this Monday morning.

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And I was like, I have done nothing. I've not prepared. I have not done any research. I've not written anything. I've not done dilemmas, I've not done something I need, you know. And then I was in bed last night and I want to quote the switch in like trying to sleep while these intrusive thoughts are trying to get me and I'm just like, fuck, fuck.

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And when my alarm goes off at half seven because it's a Monday morning and I have to distribute the pod in different socials. So normally I'm kind of lying in bed doing it through one eye open on my phone and it's all good. And today I was fucking up bolt upright in my bed, doing the socials, then running to my laptop to do the running.

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Can't just stop you. So you had a bad night's sleep because you was worried about this podcast we're doing right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Richie, we could have moved it. It could. There were so many solutions so that you didn't have to have an anxiety ridden lie. I know that you're busy and you've got a lot to fit in.

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Not too much. Do you think my busyness is more important than you feeling anxious? No. That's good to know for future. Yes. Richie, don't. Don't ever do that again. I didn't know you were going to say that and just go like I need more time. And I'm like, right, this will work out fine anyway, so you get them to show.

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Let's go.

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On the night, I see, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous.

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It's episode 32, a podcast with two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice. All handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav?

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G? Do you reckon you could do that intro without reading it? No, I've I've tried, I try, I try thinking I can and then I'll just fuckin bottle it. Right guys. Straight to Rick. I don't want to hear you read that out ever again. Right. Okay. What I want go for is your attempt to do it by my right to just off the dome.

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Right. Rick and you will never get an opportunity to look at that again. So whatever it is, your first chance, whatever that sounds like, is the intro to every pot. Okay, I love that because it's impossible. Even if you've done it a hundred times, you're gonna fuck it up 100%. Yeah. And, yeah, that's that's that's, I'm good.

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Rick. I, I came to a horrible realization last night. Okay. Maybe both. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you were you were panicking about this podcast. I was, I was, I was, I was I had a very sort of glum feeling and that was if a film starts at 11:00 at night, I'm too old to finish it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I've had this twice and two nights. It was like 11:00. Braveheart started up like I do. I did the same thing to, Did you start watching it? Yes, I did, so what point did you quit? Because I would, I was, I was so ready to just sit there and watch the whole thing, but I couldn't, I couldn't because I had to get up.

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I could do stuff. Braveheart is one of my most favorite films of all time. Fuck. Absolutely fucking yes. You know, I did well, fell asleep, woke up, went upstairs. Just everyone else was asleep. Came back down. Braveheart was still on. Yes. Second bite the cherry. Rub my hands together. Pull the blanket up. Fell asleep again. Woke up about half.

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One other half. For fuck's sake! Fucking now! Fuck! I'm gonna wake up tomorrow. I'm going to feel hangover. It's. Yeah. That's it. Thank you guys for watching Braveheart. Attempted to watch Braveheart. That's. The thing is, you get to our age, you feel hung over if you don't get enough sleep. You feel terrible. Yeah. It's awful. I shit. Rick, this is shit.

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We just old man anyway. Yeah, just old man. I got to the bit where, I don't. This is. If you haven't watched Braveheart. Now, I don't give a shit about spoiling it for you. Oh, yeah. I fucking love Braveheart. I love it so much. And the thing people are going like not is not historic. Historically. Correct. It's that actually it was Robert the Bruce that was.

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Fuck off. Yeah. Fuck off is Mel Gibson. I don't give a shit. It's Mel Gibson. Yeah, yeah. Fucking and and he's like, isn't it a bit weird that he's sort of like marrying that young girl. She's like 18 and he's clearly in his late 40s. Fuck off. Don't get don't ruin this for me. It's great when, the king slashes the throat of, his his wife.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was a bit. It was only about 20 minutes in those that got bad. Night. Did you know. Did you just love it off? Just turned it off and went to bed. Oh, good Lord, I had to, I couldn't I've got stuff to do. I also last night, Blade Runner, the new one.

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I've only seen it once. I thought. Brilliant. I can't remember much of this though, because they didn't. It my favorite awesome 40s. All right, Batiste. I've. I've watched that as well. Rick. And then I was like, I can't, I can't. I've got a gap for total Ricky in the morning and, do two podcasts. I've done a podcast already.

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What time is it called the 12 podcast. Already done. Recorded podcasts sent out there. Done. Jesus Christ. But could I'd rather be watching Braveheart right now than doing this? Yeah. Me too. Oh, 100% man 100%. Now, at the top of the show, you heard that I was, ill prepared for this podcast, and I hadn't realized I told you so you're listening to this now?

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From. You've listened to our last pod on America, which has now come out this morning. But I said I was going to do a vote on our Instagram Stories, where you get to decide the next topic for this podcast. And because we've recorded early, I've picked it and I have picked near death experiences. That's what we've gone for today.

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So apologies you couldn't take part in the story and vote in. I'm sure you were. Yeah, I'm sure you were really looking forward to it. And really fucked off about it. And I've really ruined your week by it. I know. So we've got no feedback for the America episode because maybe recording that early, we'll do it next time.

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Has it been. Yeah, obviously it's just been out like review for hours. So you wouldn't just been out. And I have seen a tweet, talking about the parks. But I didn't have time to read it. So just quickly just just let me know what it was. Was it. Well, I, well, well, we can have the beef about national parks.

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Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I did see I did hear the word that did say the word Croatia in which you compared the a Croatian park to the American park. Yeah. I'll stand by it, man. I'll throw down if it's on site, whoever that is. If you're listening to this is fucking on site. If you're thinking that Croatia is the most I don't know what you know.

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What he said in my back's already up. Croatia is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. Yeah, fuck your national parks. Fuck them. Yeah. What's Yosemite anyway? It's just a big boulder. What the fuck is a shit about that? Damn number of Spotify comments? Like I said in the pod, you listen to the America, feature.

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In America, we have actually had two comments in on Spotify already. Two comments in can I see them fit? Anyone see them? You can. They're published and I've replied, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the first one? Optimus Prime love it, love it. There were room 101. Yes, yes. So one of them was do a room 101 part.

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And I was like, yes, for sure. It's definitely I don't like a feature. We do one room one. Oh one an episode or is that, is that a topic we can make a new feature. Okay Alex, do new jingle fucking no problem. Break that. That'd be cool. Yeah, man, that'd be cool. And then the other one, let's just a just a simple question.

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Would you rather 100 beast things or one kick from a cow? Oh, and I was trying to measure it up in my mind. Like a kick from a cow is pretty hard. Like it? Like if the cow kicked you in the leg, it could break your leg. Yes. Without question. Could yes. You just know how I know this.

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Like, I found this out at 15. I was doing my work experience at Kentish Town City Farm, Belt Road. Now at that, like most people are just sitting in banks and shit. I was working on the farm. I was like, this is sick. And I was even happy mucking out the cowshed. So was Kentish Town. So let me visualize this.

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So what people in America might think is a farm. That's not what we got here in cities. We have city farms and they're like, they're not really a farm. Oh, they just house animals. They're not very big, but there is a bit of green green space on them. But generally they're kind of narrow and long. This one was in Kentish Town anyway.

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You can still look at it. It's open. We would part. The day was to run a cow and two calves from where the keep was at the bottom, but the barn was all the way up to the top, where the field is, where they would graze all day. Oh yeah. And then each night you bring them back in so they can sleep under the in the hay and all the comfort and shit.

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Nice. So it was my first day and I'm walking the cows up. Not on my own. I wasn't just going to go sort that out. I was with the bloke who ran the farm. They don't have leads. Like, you're not like, got rope and you're trying to pull them up. No, you have a thing. They just they just generally you have a stick.

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You got a stick. Yeah. Because what happens is, is they working the cows, you prod, prod you prod the cows. But that but the cows were really stubborn, right. So sometimes they would just stop. And you can't move a cow if it wants. It doesn't want to move unless you got sticks and prod it with. So we're walking up their cows.

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Fine. The calf goes into the sandpit. There's like this area with, like, they put sawdust and stuff there. So, you know, I know what the fuck it was there for, but probably for the animals. And it went. The calf went mental when start buckaroo in in the in the sawdust. I was standing too close to it and got kicked by the calf.

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Fucking well, And that was a baby. That was a baby. Fucking. Well, I'd love to have seen that. I see they need love. We're flying. Rick. They weren't just like, oh, it was like, bang, fuck, shit after he kicked my fucking cow. So we got cows and you've got firsthand experience. And then bee stings. I have been stung by a bee and a fucking bumble bee.

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Or we talking about wasp thing. You know what? Nice said that bumble bees. Everything I stood or I stood on a wasp by accident. And they stung the underside of my foot and. Fucking hell, man. So it was. It was painful. I've done the rolling up. Have you. Have you read it? Yeah. Mind. And I'm not. Try and do like a.

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You've been to Tenerife. I've been to 11 reef. Okay. I'm not trying to one up you, but it was a hornet. I stood on and you'd think that was worse, right. Hornets are bigger and and then. Yeah. And their head moves independent of their bodies. Hornets like wasp is just a little sting. But a wasp is. It is what it is.

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But when they when it can turn its head, it's the next element of scariness to it. Do you know what I mean? And they're looking around. Look at that, bro. Anyway, For you looking at, this thing isn't as bad as a standard wasp, and they're not nearly as aggressive, so actually, pretty chilled European hornets. So I was, I wasn't I wasn't in too much pain.

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Okay. So that's yeah, they, they they, they, they kill wasps as well. So if you see a hornet, don't fuck with it. Leave it be. Okay. So it would, it would do the, it would take the trash out there, man. Doing dirty jobs. I wouldn't want to rub off. I think one kick from a coward.

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You look, it's more risky, the touch, but it's sort of done, and. Yeah, thousand 100 bees things or worse things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the longevity of that isn't pleasant, is it? You're talking hours and hours. I've. I, did I ever tell you that story? When I went to Ireland and my missus on a she lives in very rural Ireland and she's got loads of, would you call it, you know, those, beehives?

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She's got loads of beehives and it's just just off from a house and she's recently been doing it, so she's got four of those crates and she's well into it. She was saying to me and to the others, does anyone want to come really excited? Does anyone want to ever come over and, and see the bees? And I was like, you know what, in my mind, after I'd just been to, Longleat Safari with you and, and I held a tarantula, got over my face, and I thought, you know what?

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I'm going to do this in front of my kids as well. And we're going to the BBC. BBC on. And I'm going to face my fear with the bees as well. So I did that, and there was like 15 of her family all in the house looking outside with me, with my little knitted thing on my head, all in the suit, gloves on and all that that I like.

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You know, I was sweating a bit and I was feeling the fear and I've moved up to these four kind of crates, and she was walking me through what I was going to do, and she had this, like, little knife apparatus to kind of separate the top. And I could see loads of bees. And I was like, I, you know, this is this is quite uncomfortable.

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As soon as she lifted that lid and I saw how many bees are there, it was like panic attack central really. And yeah, yeah, it was, it was fucking awful. And what she she was afraid. Yeah. And what were you thinking? You ain't afraid. Did you have the protective suit on? I did, didn't trust it. Didn't trust it.

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So if you, if at all. So when they started coming out, they would start going onto my face right on the net. So. Yeah. On the net. Right. But because I was in the middle of Ireland, the wind was blowing a howler and the net was being pushed against my face. So the bees were literally on to my face on the mesh, but it was touching my face.

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Yeah. And there is a video of my missus on a trying to calm me down. The whole I haven't seen themselves. Why haven't I said, why haven't I seen, you know, I'll send it to you. And they're trying to get bees off me. And I'm pacing the garden and look after that face in your face. I was like, fuck that.

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I'm not doing that with insects anymore. I'm not. I'm just not going to do it. It was horrendous. So I'm going to go with cow. One kick from a cow. Thank you very much. I've just text your wife. Please send me the recipe video. I will send it and I'll have a look back. It might even post on our Instagram as well, just for everyone because it will be fucking funny.

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Why are you holding on me? You say you hang on. Wait, wait. Are you jumping? The gun is jumping the gun. Now, near-death experience is typified of out of body experiences. Maybe seeing a bright light, feeling a sense of peace. Right? So genuine experiences take you to, another realm of your conscious, Or do you think they are hallucinations or, like, brain waves?

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Last activities are, like, caused by stress. I, so they can, like, give me comfort, right? Because ideally, ideally, I'd quite like this to be something after. Right? Yeah. Just so just gets carry on, right? Right. Yeah. Ideally. And and it's, it's not something that can be explained very well. So science there's a couple of schools of thought.

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Right. And this is just I'm not an expert in this naturally but at all really. But there's this idea that once you die you. Have in the penal gland in your brain releases flushes the brain with a sense so I can eat. Can you repeat the penal? Penal is, I don't know. Oh, you don't know. It does sound.

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I know it does sound the penis. Yeah. You're right. I mean, I hadn't thought that. It's a good, good kind. The pineal. Pineal. I think it's okay. It's good gland. It's good gland. It's.

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The pineal gland. What is function? So what do you, Yeah. So pineal gland. Your pineal gland also called the pineal body or the empiricist sleep is a tiny gland in your brain is located beneath the back part of your corpus callosum. Callosum. It's a part of your endocrine system and secretes the hormone melatonin, your pineal gland, pineal gland.

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Main job is to help you control your circadian cycle of sleep and wake from this by secreting melatonin. So literally sleep. Anyway, I don't know, this sounds all very boring. Well, I know it to do is make you have like mad trips, like DMT star trips. When you die, it releases a shitload of of of of whatever it is into your brain.

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Yeah. And then you trip before you die, and maybe it's that, but the way I kind of. Yeah, yeah. So when you die, your body knows it's it's dying or there's so much stress. Stress put onto your body that this gland says, right, let's fuck all these fluids out now because we're going down. We need to do something.

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And that's where this trippy, hallucinogenic kind of realm yeah, comes from. You reckon? Well, that's that's a idea that I mean, they have I think there's been a lot there's been studies done on people that are on their last legs and when they're about to die, and they monitor brainwave patterns and they can see that these waves peak in and trough in, that there is something going on that's exhibiting activity.

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So so yeah. Hope so. Yeah. I mean I want that like, I don't know, I'd like to know I mean I don't want to know now obviously, but there is.

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Good people see deceased ones, you know, I see I see my grandparents or something like that. Like that. Is that what happens? What's the point in your life? We had no passion for your grandparents for a second week. Okay. Let's go. We got to come with them. What do you want to see them when you when you die.

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Like if, you know, if you spent a little time. Yeah. My my then I was 18 months. What am I to say to them. What can you talk about? What what I to say. Oh, that's what this is my this is my last minutes on the earth. I love you, but I don't want to talk to you.

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Someone else comes up with things. Yeah. None of you. You haven't been watching me masturbate over. It's like that's that. Did you not ever have that feeling of when you was a kid about your loved ones watching over on you? Watch over me. Like if I'm driving too fast in my car or I'm about to sleep over, then watch out and be.

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But don't like, watch me. Not when I'm about to sleep over.

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No. I mean, there was always that, that they're watching over you, but I didn't really take in the of time. But they are in my room as a as a as a kid. That's exactly what I thought. But there is no hiding under the covers at the time. Well, have you got nothing better to do than just sit there and watch me?

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Looks like I if there's a there's also like the tunnels of light of, I mean, that's a very common thing that where people say that they have died and they've been resuscitated and they've come back, that they head towards the light. I'd love that now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all I want that to happen. So that I believe that there is.

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Because the thing is, is if you look at it, it doesn't matter whether there is or isn't that shrouding that show your cat right. It's dead and alive at the same time. Both things are it's actually terrible reference has no relation to it. So but what my point is, is, it doesn't matter whether you're whether there is an afterlife or not because you won't be able to consciously understand it.

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So you'll be dead or there is. And then you find your calculus is zero point worrying about it. But yeah, if you could have an experience where it to you? You've lived through the experience. So it's true to you that guarantees that you believe it. That's the best place to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It exists or not.

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It doesn't matter if you believe it, it's going to happen. And if it doesn't happen, you're dead anyway. So but this is where I have an issue point with somebody like Richard Dawkins. Why did he take so much gleans. And there's nothing after he's like, he's pausing to tell everyone that is fucking nothing. Fuck off. Dawkins like you might be, right, but fuck off.

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It's true. I mean, if someone's got faith and they feel like they've gone to heaven, isn't that a wonderful place to be? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Oh, you can write a few book, maybe. Fuck off with your ideas, mate. That makes complete sense. I get it, you fucking idiot. Leave me alone. He doesn't know that. He doesn't like that.

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Certain he does. He knows, you know, he's. He won't stop telling everybody. But the thing is, if you cannot explain why we are here, other than the simple idea that we evolved to be. And conscience was a being conscious and a being aware of yourself was a a think in evolution. And it may have never happened. But something created all of this shit.

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If that theory doesn't exist. So if that theory isn't 100% guarantee able, then it may be that the creator there is a creator to it all. Well, I would like to, instead of.

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Say man nine again or or any person that has passed away, I would like to be taken to the creator. So like it's the matrix. And they show me the computers, they show me, all the different rooms and how they're working stuff like, you know, they there's a big screen and it goes through my life. What happened?

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You know, that, like, they talk me through it. Why I was there, what impact I had on other people and how that, you know, ripples through eternity that that that would be that would be a nice way to to go and then like, just say. So you gave 10 a.m. for a ten eternity. You now we've shown you what this you've done your purpose.

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You can sit in that room on your own now for eternity in the dark.

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So that you mentioned the matrix there, like if you died and you realized that there was you, there was this other world like the matrix, would you take the blue pill or red pill? Would you stay in the matrix, or would you, would you go out and live in the real that. No, no, I'd stay in the matrix closely, stay in the matrix.

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I was there, but I remember watching The Matrix and it really did kind of like split my head open. And it was one of those times where I thought this, this could be real. This is real. This continues to this day. The idea that this is a simulation. So, so, even Elon Musk was on the Joe Rogan podcast.

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Now get me don't get me wrong, that isn't like this isn't like perhaps two people that are feeding each other and saying some mental, outlandish stuff isn't the best. It's not very influential. But whatever. It was an interesting conversation that they had. And then so there was the idea of an implants in the brain and creating experiences, downloading like lived experiences that you could then go back to at any time.

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And live again. Yeah. And they're like, well, if that it's possible in theory, perhaps it's already happened. And you're actually living one of those experiences right now. There's absolutely no way of proving it otherwise. And I was like, fuck, this is kind of 16 year old stoner talk, but I'm here for it because I'm, I, I'd like and now you've just said that and I'm thinking about it.

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I just shut my laptop and just go and lie in a dark room and just think about what you've just said. Like, how do you prove that you're you're everything you're experience with me right now isn't just the part of whatever it is that you've downloaded. You prove it to me, and I can't prove that you exist. I can just this is might be the reality in simulation that I've chosen to go into an experience.

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Imagine you. Imagine you did a you you kind of had the proof, but it was so far fetching. But somebody from the future, whatever, had told you about it, and you were the only person walking this earth that knew about what really was happening and stuff. Yeah, that that would be mad because you'd be trying to at every kitchen after that.

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You'd be like, wait, listen to this. Right? And you'd be there telling you a story about how everything exists and it's real. It's true. Yeah, but everyone's thinking. But there we go. Well, if if you truly believe that. Stop, Terry.

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I. Go and stop. Terry. I said stop! Terry. Why? You know, I know it's not a simulation, Rick. How? Because. Why in this simulation would we both be slowly put it on? Wait, what the hell is that? Yeah. Why would I want any part of a simulation? I look at him, look in the mirror, look in this camera and go, you fucking.

00:29:50:13 – 00:30:06:00
You've put on a bit of weight, boy. What's that got to do with anything? And why have you just said I'm. What have you just, like, throw me in there? Yeah, they're both putting on weight. So fucking shit up, mate. You know what I mean? You have to say it. It's. Well, do you feel like you are? Yeah.

00:30:06:00 – 00:30:23:03
I'm disgusting. I'm a big, bloated mess, man. And he. I'm. I'm sick of it now. I'm part of it. I'm not. I'm I'm kind of like. I'm conscious of it all the time. Fell. I think about it all the time I can imagine. Why don't I go to the gym? Why would I get in that fucking gym literally down the road from me?

00:30:23:03 – 00:30:41:09
I've a subscription there. Haven't been there in a year. Why? And I've done it before. I've got to the gym, I've lost weight. I know how to do it. I can do it. It's not a problem. Why won't I, Rick? Because it's boring. It's rubbish. Anyway, tens of thousands of things are so much better than going to the gym.

00:30:41:11 – 00:31:07:01
And the food is so nice. Something. And it's a hug and I love it. There's nothing better. My favorite, my favorite at the moment, Rick, is Leon. You ever go to Leon? There's a vegan. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Vegetarian choices have somewhat limited, but they've got a bangin vegan burger. Oh are they? Yes. Well, they're not just like, I think like I want to eat that should shitty a fucking Eggman a sandwich because there's no calories in it.

00:31:07:01 – 00:31:12:24
But I want I want to have that instead. I've got to sort it out. Oh.

00:31:13:01 – 00:31:44:13
If you could go to a hospital and they could simulate a near-death experience where the stress, the reduction of oxygen, you know, they really put you in that environment of you buzzing out and you actually taking the steps to the last, you know, parts of your consciousness being on this earth, but you're safe. You are safe. And they can bring you back and they can do that.

00:31:44:15 – 00:32:36:09
Would you do it? Yes. Would you? Yeah. You said it's safe. There's no guarantee of anything going wrong. Yeah. No, there there is no guarantee of anything going wrong. But from what we know and we I what I do when you, talk about this ayahuasca. Yeah. DMT trips. Yeah. And, the safe. But the kind of effect after of what it has on you, we'll go into that in a little bit more detail, but just bear in mind that there could be changes within your personality and how you think about the world, how you think about your family, because you have some people come out of these these near-death experiences with, you know, unconditional

00:32:36:09 – 00:33:11:20
love for anything. And everything. They are at one with the world and nature. Some people come out and they just think, what's the point? What's the point in any of this anymore? Yeah, well, I can only answer that by mentioning DMT. Okay. Because I read I've never I have taken it once actually, and it went horrendously bad. You remember, what you made?

00:33:11:20 – 00:33:34:00
Do I remember so bad, I fucking remember it was so bad. Me it was during lockdown, and I've. I mean, I like psychedelics, I like them, I've got at home right now, like 40 capsules of mushrooms. I, I've got upright. I'll always have them around. Yeah. I'm not sitting there tripping balls every day. I occasionally might put a film on.

00:33:34:02 – 00:33:57:02
I have a mushroom. Yeah. Enjoy the next four hours. Everything's good. So that's my that's kind of my relationship with them at the moment. Yeah. There was a time when I, I guess this is my closest I've ever got to dying. Yes. Because you asked me you didn't have any near-death experiences, and I was like, no, but I think this could have been it.

00:33:57:04 – 00:34:27:15
Yeah, for me. So what happened was, I don't think there's there's any documented cases of people dying from taking too much DMT. And if people don't know what it is, it's a supremely intense, psychedelic. That's where mushrooms can offer it, certainly in small doses. Very lovely. And and they can also offer very bad experiences as well. Like, it's not there's no way of guessing whether or not you have a good or bad trip.

00:34:27:15 – 00:34:58:11
So that I'm not encouraging anyone to go and take any psychedelic. Unless that's it, I'm just not encouraging it. Right? So so DMT is something else. If you take enough, you lose. Perhaps in some way your basis in your surroundings and you go into a different world fundamentally that's inside your brain, but also in your vision. Everything you see in front of you changes so you don't see what's around you.

00:34:58:13 – 00:35:26:20
If you break through, it's called break in through and you essentially enter another world legitimately, you enter something that isn't in this world but is created within your brain and takes over your eyesight. So the things you are seeing and it's not even seeing you're there, it's it's your. And if you take an object, isn't it, isn't it supposed to like tap into a part of your brain that you don't already use?

00:35:26:20 – 00:35:49:08
And that's how it it kind of. Yeah. It's a flex. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know, we should get that. We should get, Nick on. Who knows about this stuff. Yeah. Drugs expert. Yeah. So I don't want to butcher the explanation, but maybe we'll get him on for 15 minutes next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Explain this stuff properly.

00:35:49:10 – 00:36:08:23
But something or chemicals releasing in your brain and you are there. And what you live in currently is not. You're not aware of it anyway. You're supposed to measure these doses quite, you know. Precisely. And, and and breaking through in inverted commas isn't easy. It's not a thing that you just do it every time you break through.

00:36:09:02 – 00:36:23:09
As I understand it. So I was a bit drunk. How did you measure it? I just pinched a bit.

00:36:23:11 – 00:36:41:21
There's people out there with digital scales and they that in the other, I've like literally gone to that zero point, zero point like going through it. You just pinched a bit. Pinched the bit of powder. Yeah. Yeah. You put it in a pipe which is a glass pipe, which is the optics of holding a glass pipe with brown powder.

00:36:41:21 – 00:37:12:01
I a good look. And you light the pipe so it looks like you're smoking crack genuinely. Or brown heroin. And I remember inhaling in it. And the next thing I remember is my wife waking me up on the floor where I was convulsing and, And let me tell you, it, this was a near-death experience. You don't know a fucking clue about anything that's happening.

00:37:12:04 – 00:37:39:08
You know what it was? Inhale black nothingness and then waking up. Yeah, that was a bad one. My message was rightfully fuming with me, and I just feel it's so. So what? My mind state where I was, I was that was thinking about what I wanted to achieve then was like, it's called, you know, the name of it colloquially was like a businessman's trip.

00:37:39:08 – 00:38:01:00
So you could, if you know what you're doing. And I absolutely didn't know what I was doing. You can have a really intense ship in ten minutes, and there's no comedown. Yeah. For me, it's it's too much for me. That's my little brain. Kind of that once I was with people that knew what they were doing. So I did some more later on after that.

00:38:01:02 – 00:38:21:11
But, you have to more. Yeah. So in, Lee's, stacking the field in fucking Durham in someone's car and had it in a pipe, then with a vape. Like a vape pen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's sort of like, you know what you're doing. That was wicked then, but it was. It wasn't as intense. It wasn't like that.

00:38:21:11 – 00:38:43:24
Yeah. So like, I was anticipating a nice little trip. I wasn't anticipating blacking out and being in convulsing. And no, I don't think anyone is. And the same with, I don't know how is it how you pronounce ayahuasca? Is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, I was because different to that. There's a different type. So it's like a, it's a, it's a plant based psychedelic.

00:38:44:01 – 00:39:09:20
Psychedelics affect all senses, altering a person's thinking, sense of time and emotions that can cause a person to hallucinate. Seeing or hearing things that do not exist or are distorted. So they are, but you can visit shamans and you can do ceremonies and drink this stuff. And I think quite often a lot of people are sick when they drink it.

00:39:09:20 – 00:39:36:21
And it's like a, it's almost like a purge of your senses. So a lot of people do that, and they kind of have these near-death experiences where they are, you know, talking to God almost. Would you do anything like that with ayahuasca and this is a shaman, and he would do matrix to South America date night again.

00:39:36:23 – 00:39:58:09
Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. But you could also go to like Archway in north London and find a shaman also. Yeah. It's you don't have to go to Peru. You could do that. Yeah I know someone that's done that. Yeah, yeah. Potters bar, I think you went to, our good friend Carl Donnelly's comedian. The, He talks about that.

00:39:58:09 – 00:40:02:02
Would I do it? I,

00:40:02:04 – 00:40:25:21
I don't probably not because he's he's like, I might be, but but we're Carl. One of his outputs of him doing ayahuasca, I believe. Was it that he turned vegan. Yes. It's, into the for me, into vegan with very short amount of time with it. Yeah. Within days it just flipped. And he's been vegan for God knows how many years now.

00:40:25:21 – 00:40:45:20
Happier. Also he says, yeah. So these are the things that that can be at play when you're doing these. I'd be scared. But but that's a positive one, right. Because it's good for you have to be. Yeah. And you do see. Yeah. But what it's like if you don't see the point in podcasting anymore, see this, this is what I was talking about.

00:40:45:20 – 00:41:08:14
This is, this is more along the lines of where I was. I was trying to bait you, where if you do go to, a hospital and they say, yeah, we can do a near-death experience, it's all fine. You'll wake up, your wife will be there, whoever or whatever, but you wake up, you are going to detest football.

00:41:08:16 – 00:41:33:03
You were going to absolutely hate your dog being round. You know the football one's better because, okay, I can kind of see that already. Like when multiple times through a season. Rick I'll go, what am I doing. Right. So that's already there a little bit. I don't want to be nudged over because because the fallout of that really is what what do I do?

00:41:33:03 – 00:41:57:19
How do I support my family? I don't know, and then you you wouldn't be able to go back into a a normal kind of corporate office, you know, doing the 9 to 5, you, you've you've lived this life and you've just got no fucking fucking fuming. Ricky, if you've the denial of ayahuasca, ayahuasca shop and the change was that you went back to the office, that's not what that's for today.

00:41:57:21 – 00:42:28:10
I imagine that's the set I it's, it's like left it life and then for fucking I'm going to put a fucking three piece on and just go to the office in my fucking shirt and tie. Right. Yeah, I'd be scared of that. But maybe we're over or simplifying what that change feels like. Have you ever you personally now, I have never had a near-death experience as opposed to the going down like, you know, the dark tunnel, the light.

00:42:28:10 – 00:42:55:18
Yeah. Having, my life played before me. Anything like that. Now, one like you just said about doing your, DMT trip, and it was blackout. So when I've mentioned this story before, but when I was incredibly drunk, when I was like 13, 14 and I started it basically my body started to shut down. So I was sick.

00:42:55:20 – 00:43:24:15
I pissed myself a shit myself, and I was taken to hospital and my organs, it started to shut down. Yeah, this is how Ricky explains all this on an earlier podcast. Go. It's fucking hilarious. Go on. This is it is hilarious. Or concerned about I know so but then there was the only light that I fucking was when I was in my face in the in the corridor, like there was no, there was nothing.

00:43:24:15 – 00:43:52:03
There was absolute just blackness. It was just going to bed and waking up. That's all that was. So I can't speak from that point of view. And I have never had, one of those moments of I'm going down the tunnel or whatever, but one of the closest times I feel like I've had where I've had a near-death experience was when I was traveling to America.

00:43:52:05 – 00:44:14:01
I, me and the two lads I was with, we were in Portland, Oregon, and we did a day trip whitewater rafting. It's fun, fun day, fun experience with loads of people on the boat rowing down the river, the waves crashing over you and all of that little big river. It's pretty scary. They they teach you how to do everything.

00:44:14:03 – 00:44:42:09
Now, the instructor said that if you wanted to jump out of the boat and go down a rapid, which was a grade two, she said from from memory, what you do is at the top of the rapids. You hold your breath and you bob and swirl through the rapids, and then you come out into the calmer water at the bottom and when she shouts, you start swimming right to where it's shallow.

00:44:42:11 – 00:45:04:06
Who wants to do this? But two mates put their hands up. I can't push the out of this. I'll got going as well. And I'm a terrible swimmer. I can swim, but I'm terrible at it. And before I knew it, before I even had a chance to think of like what I need to do, they had already jumped in and they were starting that the descent down this rapid.

00:45:04:12 – 00:45:26:08
So then I jumped in as well. But I was wearing waterproof clothing and they weren't. And we had our life jackets on, but my waterproof clothing filled up with water, so it was like I was I was weighted down, so I was going through these rapids, bobbing up and down underneath the water, coming back up, fucking shit myself.

00:45:26:10 – 00:45:46:14
I could see down the rapids my mates swimming to the right because I heard a shout. I get to that point and I start swimming to the right, and I'm swimming and I'm swimming and I'm like, shit, I'm getting over to them. I can see my mates, and then I start tiring and then I can feel the current licking at my ankles.

00:45:46:16 – 00:46:09:11
Then I feel like the gentle caress on my calf muscles, then a hug over my thighs. I'm being sucked back into the river and I have no energy. There is nothing in me to get me out of there. And then you start panicking and your arms are going up windmills and you're thinking fuck! Like, what am I going to do?

00:46:09:16 – 00:46:29:19
And then the weight of that, a waterproof filling up with water. I just can't get out. I can't get out. I'm just going back further and further into the river, and I'm like, at that point in your mind, you're like, oh, if I might say, I'll carry on swimming. If I'm not, I won't drown, you know, mentality, a fucking mentality, monster.

00:46:29:19 – 00:46:47:20
I'll do it. You won't mate, you won't. You just give up and you think this is it. Now I'm going. I'm going to be a dead. I'm going down rapids and I'm going to be in Portland, Oregon. I'm going to have to find my body back to my mom. She's gonna have to pay loads of money. Fucking how I fucked it.

00:46:48:00 – 00:47:14:13
My mate saw me panicking and going down and he drifted back into the current, grabbed my wrist, pulled me forwards, and then I started to glide into the shallow end and I could get my feet onto the bottom of what was swam is Billy. Billy? Billy saved me. And then as, he he went back into the current, he swam back out and he'd save me.

00:47:14:15 – 00:47:36:09
They will we will jump back into the boat. They dragged us on board. And my legs. I've never had cramps so bad in my legs. It's just like this little ball in agony. And that is the closest that I've ever been. That I think was. I was so close. It was the worst. The worst you had ever had an experience like that?

00:47:36:15 – 00:48:00:19
No, never. I'm quite risk averse. I think I kind of sense danger. You can sense danger? Yeah. Is it, is it like a six and you think you're Spider-Man? Yeah. Yeah. No, genuinely I do. I think I have to have, like, spider senses when, when dangers around. Case in point, very recently I went to Boardmasters festival with the wife and two kids.

00:48:00:21 – 00:48:24:05
First festival I've been to properly when they're old enough to appreciate it. And there were lots of kids. Young kids, lots of drugs. You could see a lot of people pretty mangled. Anyway, there's this deejay called Sammy Verjee playing. He's quite well known now. Blew up on TikTok. And the kids love him, right? No, I mean, I mainly played garage music so I could give a shit about seeing him, really.

00:48:24:05 – 00:48:47:19
But, yeah, my daughter wanted to see him. We were there early, relatively early before, it was, but it was. There was just enough room to stand around. It wasn't much, but there was no cause for concern. Yeah. Anyway, it was getting fuller and fuller, and these kids were coming in, and I'm like, this feels dangerous. It slows like, this is like it was just to.

00:48:47:20 – 00:49:11:05
To explain. You had a it was a downward hill and you had a stage at the bottom. And there was the area was kind of like round. And then there was fences at the left and right, so that you it was all the people piled into this sort of circular zone where they would watch Sammy Verjee play, and we were right on the edge of it, like literally standing on the fences.

00:49:11:07 – 00:49:33:03
And I was like, I sense that we've got a I feel like we need to get out of is way too busy too quickly. And, literally after saying that to my wife about a minute later, there was a surge. Crowd surge. I'd never seen the crowd surge before. I thought I had at football. Like when when it's moving around, that isn't what crowd surge is.

00:49:33:03 – 00:49:56:18
This was like watching 4000 people fall over like dominoes. Oh, God, I'm watching it. Let's go screaming broken ankles, broken legs. We're on the edge. And I was like, we go, get out of here and we start climbing over that. There's a video of me on TikTok climbing over the fences. Well, it's a it's an actual video of you climbing.

00:49:56:18 – 00:50:15:13
I yeah, someone took it, like from about 100ft away. You can I know you can see will when they. And so I was like get over it wasn't just this 100 people trying to get over and the, but my, my wife was going because the boy just jumped over straight away. It was going, Chloe, get over.

00:50:15:13 – 00:50:32:23
And Chloe's like, she's nimble, fit. Six, 716. And I was like, don't worry about, oh, we've got to get you over because I'm. It was she. My wife's like 40 now. And you know, you just had two kids is less nimble than they are. Yeah. So you got your over and that was it was we were safe then.

00:50:32:23 – 00:50:53:04
But it was it was like a warzone afterwards. But I felt it happening before it did is my point, right. So like when trouble was about to go off in a pub or club, I can see it waiting for a sensor. Yeah, always. So I've always managed to negotiate my way around dangerous situations like getting on a plane across the Atlantic, risk assessment it.

00:50:53:07 – 00:51:18:19
Yeah, I just, I just I did it I just did that toying with Barbados mate. Bruh. For fuck's sake. What a lot. Out of all the places like why why why now? Why Barbados? What is because I met to Bayesians yesterday. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're. Yeah, they live there. They're from the from London. They're from the West Country, typically.

00:51:18:19 – 00:51:37:13
And they were coming over to see some extended family from Ollie's. So we just went over Zillow, had a barbecue and they were like, it's only eight hours. And I was like, I, I think actually, once you're in the air, it's about six and a half, seven. They said, it's just a 6.5 hours. I it doesn't sound too bad that in Barbados is like Paradise.

00:51:37:13 – 00:52:01:09
Yes. White beaches. Yeah, yeah. Like a sharks and blue sea. Yeah. For 6.5 hours. That doesn't. Anyway, it turns out that is about, And I'm thinking I actually I could do that. Okay. And I looked at the flight plan. The direction where it goes is right over the ocean. There is no land. It's just sea until you get to Barbados, mate.

00:52:01:09 – 00:52:21:09
You literally. We had we had a conversation about about three weeks ago. And you're saying that most planes, their flight plan of the flight paths are done so that there is a bit of land to able to glide to land at all times? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I've been told. That's what I've been told. Look at the flight plan.

00:52:21:11 – 00:52:42:03
There are no land, no land. Like someone's been telling bookings to me. Unless there's this flight plan. Right? And someone just made it on the internet. It is like the red line across the ocean in the middle of it. When you told me that, I was like, I'm not even going to research this. I'm just going to take it like, just gospel that that is it.

00:52:42:06 – 00:53:04:01
Because I don't want to know. I'm just going to pretend that's what they do, and I will feel a hell of a lot better now to lead this out. Someone sent it's a story, and I'm going to read it out. Now. We've got a lake near us, and we often take canoes out on it. They're the open canoes, and we stick a barbecue bass and that sort of stuff in them.

00:53:04:03 – 00:53:22:07
We've taken them out loads of no issues. Anyway, this one time we went for it for the day out. May the missus and I'll do, the in-laws and, some of my daughter's friends. My daughter had been given a surf kayak, so she wanted to try that out rather than come in that open canoe with the rest of us.

00:53:22:09 – 00:53:43:17
So we all set off. The aim was to go to one of the islands in the lake, the in-laws and the missus ram one canoe. I was with the, with my daughter's friends, and my daughter was on her canoe. It was all good though. Hard work. It was quite windy, and my daughter's friends were too busy on their phones to help out, so I was pretty much knackered.

00:53:43:19 – 00:54:04:07
This was where the problem started. The daughter didn't want to go on her kayak and wanted to go in the open canoe with her friends, so I ended up having to take her back. It was a fucking nightmare. I was as I was too big for it and it was rocking about a pain to handle. We're all paddling back.

00:54:04:08 – 00:54:32:11
The other two canoes are off in the distance and I'm really struggling. Then the motorbike passes the weight, flips my canoe. Now, I haven't mentioned at this point that I'm a shit swimmer, and I've made the not so wise choice of no lifejacket. So I'm in the water and I'm trying to flip the kayak. Like how, like how I can with open canoe, but it's plastic and slippery and I can't get a grip of it.

00:54:32:13 – 00:54:53:04
I'm knackered from earlier and I keep going underwater. And I can't tread water. I'm yelling for the others, but only my missus hears and she turns around to come and help. I genuinely think I'm fucked as she seems so far away. It was an awful feeling. Luckily, the missus is pretty good in the canoe and she is getting closer.

00:54:53:10 – 00:55:18:21
I'm screaming, I'm drifting, I'm Christine bobbing underwater swallowing. Woah. I'm thinking I'm done for. She shouting at me to calm down as she pulls up alongside. She grabs me and in my panic state, I pretty much pull her in whilst collaborating over to get into her canoe, I set off in that canoe and left, left with the kayak and didn't look back.

00:55:18:23 – 00:55:38:05
I guess I reasoned that she's a really good swimmer and would be fine. Basically, I'm the guy on the Titanic who jumps in the life by when everybody's saying women and children first. We all go back, okay, my missus was well pissed off with me, and I was really withdrawn for a few days as I properly freaked myself out.

00:55:38:07 – 00:56:03:22
It's all good now. I'm drifting has become a family joke. But I stupidly still don't wear a life jacket. Lightning doesn't strike twice, right? Again, fucking drowning in this shit, thinking Darwin is it? It is absolute. Drowning is rubbish. Okay, I think we can all agree. Drowning is rubbish. No, you said about the lifeboats on the Titanic.

00:56:03:24 – 00:56:24:05
Yeah. When we were climbing over the fence, the security guards going, get the children, get the children. But I was already on then. And so I was like, I could get the children. I don't have to jump down. I'm sort of halfway up. What's the etiquette here? All my children already over. Yes, yes. So then I wasn't mad about the other children.

00:56:24:07 – 00:56:53:09
Yeah, my children first, then me, then I'll help people get over so. Let's dilemmas. Yeah. To date or not to date, that is the question. And something only you know wiggle wiggle. You okay? Those are the questions. You got an issue for a tissue? Well, I started playing a jingle. Is that wrong? Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't play it.

00:56:53:09 – 00:57:21:02
Yeah. So, the kids would do the topics, and then I'll kick you up. All right. The top topic for next week. We all going to do the story. The story's going to go on the Tuesday morning. So if you want to go and vote on the poll on our Instagram stories for Tuesday, the day after the podcast is released, Instagram is at Lad Anon podcast.

00:57:21:02 – 00:57:46:16
Give us a follow and go and vote in the poll, the two topics going head to head is addiction, which could be drugs, gambling, sex, phone the sharks. Well I know such and sharks is our love for sharks. Shark attacks anything to do, anything to do with sharks. All this shark. How big are the sharks in the mid?

00:57:46:18 – 00:58:09:04
We've had a couple of emails in previously. Well, I couldn't quite slide into the show about sharks, about shark attacks. And you don't know about these so that there's already waiting. There's content already there baby. Can I tell you it's just something I heard yesterday. Just so I don't forget it. But from the base of the Bayesians. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

00:58:09:06 – 00:58:33:09
They go spearfishing at night. Oh my God, the idiots and all they can see is fuck with the torches on their head. This is the same person. Fucking pay me. Not in a million years. Not in a million. No, nothing would put me in that black water where tiger sharks are fucking. You insane? Are you fucking insane? Oh, yeah.

00:58:33:09 – 00:58:56:16
But the risk is like getting struck by lightning. Are you fucking. I wouldn't go walk in sand under a tree when there's a lightning storm either. That is. Yeah. That is absolutely ridiculous. So that is in the entry. So when they were doing, when they were doing spearfishing in the day, one of them got attacked by a blacktip.

00:58:56:18 – 00:59:19:18
Oh, God. Bit him on the head. On the head. But it was a small one and they had masks on and stuff. So he cut his head. But it was on the on the hairline. It wasn't a big deal. Wasn't a big deal. I said, still go. Still guys, still go. He said, yeah, at night I last the last week and fucking out like it's just people have just brought up different, aren't they?

00:59:19:18 – 00:59:38:11
You know, like in Hawaii with surfing. And they can see like great white sharks and they're like, oh, it's not going above you. If you don't look at it, it won't look at you. They fuck you, you know, it's a great white shark. May you fucking. So I've just talked to Ian. I've talked to tiger sharks in Barbados.

00:59:38:11 – 01:00:00:23
Yes. Time. The sharks are often seen in the Caribbean Sea. Often. Often. Mate. Not really often. Often they're milling about. Why is it when you talk to anyone? The comforting. Yeah, but they're they're very rare. They're not rare. They're everywhere. So I've not seen the Malibu. What is YouTube. Tell the fucking tiger sharks from there, mate. If you've not seen the Malibu, I shall leave it.

01:00:00:23 – 01:00:28:03
Leave it. Just written note for Malibu artists. I want to tell you about I to you. Yeah, I love him. Yeah, it's pretty actually. Yeah, that's fucking all right. We are now going to go into dilemmas. Something. No, actually, so, just tired. You got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad cause that will give you a aching in your soul, alone in your flat.

01:00:28:08 – 01:00:57:17
Please talk to Ricky a flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, frankly, the fucking black. Black. You're safe here to get nice wall between breaking black. What is that, Alex? Yeah, I know, I know, I someone message isn't saying. Is he easy, but I'll ask him. Okay, I like that. Yeah, I like just a breath of relaxation, I think maybe.

01:00:57:17 – 01:01:23:17
Yeah, I think so, too. The dilemmas off your chest. To date or not to date, that is the question. I met this amazing girl about a year ago with both marine biologists. I love going out in the sea together. We spent quite a bit of time together over the last few months, of the last year. We instantly hit it off and had a great connection.

01:01:23:19 – 01:01:51:01
The trouble is, she's one of the busiest people I have ever met. She works pretty much every day, including most weekends, while she's also looking after her teenage kid. To top things off, she lives two hours away and barely has any time to spare. I asked her out on a date last year, which she was up for, but said she wanted to talk about her situation before anything went further.

01:01:51:03 – 01:02:23:02
I assume it was about her having a child, but that does not bother me at all. Since then we have not had the conversation and due to how busy she is, I've barely seen her till last week. When we saw each other again, it was like nothing had changed and we still had this amazing connection. I didn't bring up the subject of taking her out, but I'd like to get your advice on how I should approach this.

01:02:23:04 – 01:02:44:13
Yeah, I mean, see you exergy. It's hard in it when you got a crush on someone, but you don't, and she's obviously into you. But she's busy. Yeah. What's the situation? Yeah. Yeah. You don't know. I mean, you're assuming the situation is the kid, but it could be a different situation. Oh, I get accused of being a shark nonce and that.

01:02:44:13 – 01:03:09:02
And I want to check sharks. Maybe she's shagging sharks. For real? Yeah. I can't think of that. So. Yeah, I think, he's spending too much time in the sea. Yeah. Stop shaking. Sharks. Stop shaking. Oh. Stop shaking. Well, I just thought, can't, can't can't stop it. Just got to stop shagging sharks. Nothing good can come from this.

01:03:09:04 – 01:03:31:24
Yeah. That I, I think you can. Sometimes you got to play it slow, and you've just got to see what happens. And, you know, maybe go on holiday, try and pick a holiday or so. I'll come down and see you. That'd be nice. I'll come and see you. I'll get an Airbnb. No pressure out, you know. Maybe I'll tell you what to do.

01:03:32:01 – 01:03:51:23
Go. Go to her. So I'm going to come over with my friend. We're going to chill out. And maybe if you've got time, we can spend a couple of days together during that period. Just try and boost the relationship. Yeah. Because, you know, obviously the point of us being on this planet is to find someone to love and be with.

01:03:52:00 – 01:04:11:00
It's much better existence when you have that, if you're lucky enough to have it, then she may be the one. I think you should just see where it goes without putting too much pressure. Yeah, I know also because she's just coming to back into your life after that, you would seeing her. I wouldn't go in ten times. I wouldn't say, yeah, you're right not to bring that up.

01:04:11:05 – 01:04:30:03
Yeah, I think I and Sophie, how's your morning card for a day like that? Don't go straight in there. Not like none of that. I think you could do with building some more working time with her. Oh, more of a kind of. You can't. You can't get some work near her. Yes. That's what I was going to say.

01:04:30:03 – 01:04:48:07
Yeah. Why don't you put in her? Oh, no. I've always wanted to clean those clams. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You need to clarify. That wasn't supposed to be like that. But, you know, that's what just sprung to my head. But, like, can't you just say. Oh, well, I wanted to work on that. I want it to work in the area.

01:04:48:12 – 01:05:12:09
What are you working on at the moment? Can I come and help out? Right, yeah. Try and, initiate some more times where, like, she's busy and you. There isn't enough time for you guys. So why don't you go to her where she's working or where she's busy and try and, you know, make her realize that that connection is is stronger than being busy all the time or something like that.

01:05:12:09 – 01:05:22:09
And when and while you're waiting, like, for it to click into gear, it's nothing stopping you from seeing a couple of roses.

01:05:22:11 – 01:05:35:17
It's like training. It's training like when, you know, look, she doesn't find out. Just get a couple of roses in,

01:05:35:19 – 01:05:54:01
Theory way so that. That's good. That's our advice. Yeah. That's Rose. Probably not. The problem is not the wrong one. No, no one knows. It's nothing. You can do it and then not in a relationship. So I said, right. Yeah. You're not. She's not, she's not, right to tell you what you can and can't do with your winky right now.

01:05:54:03 – 01:06:14:02
Engineer more working time with, or engineer something where you can go to her ends and say, hey, I'm just just down here at the moment. If you got time, you want to hang out, grab a coffee, go for dinner, whatever it is. Then maybe she'll be able to tell you about the situation and take it from there.

01:06:14:04 – 01:06:27:04
Now we're going to go into something only you know why? Something. You know.

01:06:27:06 – 01:06:55:22
This is called Wake or Without You. I was newly single at 26, and I found myself texting my ex from when I was 19. We talked for a couple of days, and she asked if she could come over. Being a gentleman, I politely accepted after watching a film, which I'm sure she tactically chose because I was hot. As hard as Bronson, we began to get down to business.

01:06:55:24 – 01:07:24:21
Now I'm under no illusions, but as soon as a girl touches the goods, I'm essentially a ticking time bomb. However, I was feeling more like Mo Farah rather than my usual Usain Bolt. Things were going really well until she decided to turn around into doggy. Now, from what I could remember, she very much liked having her hair pulled, so being keen to make her experience better, I did.

01:07:24:21 – 01:07:57:16
So I grabbed her hair and pulled it off. Yeah, it was a wig. Now I was looking at my reflection on the back of her bald head. I try to act as if nothing had happened, but she burst into tears. Oh, I said, I'm so sorry. I had no idea. She proceeded to face time, her friend, to talk about it whilst I was sat next to her on my own bed with a boner.

01:07:57:18 – 01:08:11:11
It was at my flat and I had nowhere to go. She said she was so sorry that she should have told me so. I accepted the apology and jumped right back on.

01:08:11:13 – 01:08:42:12
We are due to be married at the end of August. Yes, yes, ironically, I'm the bald one now and that's something only I know. That's brilliant. What a great story. Yeah, that is lovely. Yeah. Why does she call a mate straight away? I was sitting there and he came to the phone and Jim Feinstein. Remember Theo Von, when, when he talks about he was on Joe Rogan's and he goes, you can, you can put your earphones on.

01:08:42:12 – 01:09:09:05
Is that shit, man? Yeah. You leaving when I'm on my own is like, yeah, no, it's like, so when he having sex and you've put a condom on, but she's looking at her phone. Yeah. All right. So it's weird that I had an experience, What? A long time ago. And, we, pulled this bird.

01:09:09:07 – 01:09:37:04
And my friend I was with poured his hand up about her friend. Sorry. Which which friend befriended I do this with. Yeah. Who's this friend that I love? Yeah. You do? I'm not going to name him. Okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Name on the podcast. So we went out and, we went back and I was a bit thrown off because, like, 13 year old son was there.

01:09:37:06 – 01:10:01:04
But I was full of all of the stuff that I had the good stuff just back then. And, so I've kind of put him to the back of my mind a bit anyway, so he, my mate was in the other room with another bird, and I was in the bedroom with this other girl, and the other girl had a moment of clarity and turns out she was in a relationship already.

01:10:01:06 – 01:10:18:24
Okay. So she burst in the room in a fit of tears when we of getting on to it, and I was like, and then and obviously they went off to the bathroom to to cry together. And I was just like sitting there like that guy. And this is what they wait in it. They do that tomorrow. Christ will me too late.

01:10:18:24 – 01:10:38:00
You've already done it now, mate. It's no, no, don't fuck up, Mike. So I mean fucking everybody up here. Yeah, you just wait till you have your emotional collapse the day after, you know? Anyway, so is it the girl that you would had the emotion? No, no, no, she was cool. She was fine. She was she was having a relationship ruin that.

01:10:38:02 – 01:11:05:15
Yeah. Right. Yeah. No. Bloody hell. So in terms of like the, the sort of emotional reaction in at the time where, you know, she was FaceTimed a friend when she pulled the hair off. Yeah. Sometimes emotion gets in the way. Yeah. I mean to do that straight away, it's like it would be super awkward thing hearing this face of this happening, but it all worked out for the best.

01:11:05:19 – 01:11:25:22
So there you go. Your your missus just sent me the video. For fuck's sake. Really? Oh, yeah. She said there's a longer one, apparently. Yeah. Don't worry. I'll also add, I know you're gonna hook me up because I've. Yeah. And I'll hook you up. This has been lots anonymous. Can you hook me up with another video?

01:11:25:24 – 01:11:49:08
What video? Your media project from, when you six. That would never see the light of day. Never see the light of day? You know what? That that could potentially say if we ever did a, a live show, you, promise me you're telling the truth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we ever date back a good a good turnout for a live show.

01:11:49:10 – 01:12:13:05
That is amazing, Ricky. And it would be one of those one of those moments where, you know, mobile phones go into lockers and everyone comes in. Everyone's just there for the show. And we have one of those kind of, like, shows that we did. One of those I would, I would play it. Yeah, right. Like, you know, everyone locked in that room could have a good old fucking laugh.

01:12:13:05 – 01:12:32:22
Well, if we could check in, we could say, I wonder if we could sell 100 tickets. We sell a hundred tickets. A nice little comfy room and just play this video. I've got to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, I am surprised Ricky saying this. I've. I've seen this once, and that must have been about 18 years ago. And I've never not thought about it regularly.

01:12:32:22 – 01:12:46:15
I still think about it all the time. And you said, I will never see it again because I wasn't sure what you was expecting, I think when you showed it to me, but we couldn't believe how much we were laughing. And then it just went back in your Tupperware box under your bed. And that was it. Never saw it.

01:12:46:15 – 01:13:08:03
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. That's it. You just hope people whet the appetite somewhat. It was. You recreate it or made your own music video too. It's too late by the streets. That's correct. Yeah. I made my own alternative version, and I, you know, I like Skinner in it. I am lip sync in and, you know, looking down the camera and doing some acting as well.

01:13:08:05 – 01:13:26:15
So that is it's a delight. It's a bloody delight. If we played that, I'd have to walk out the room. No, you'd have to sit there and then. So many questions we could do 20 minutes just, questions for that. You mean maybe we should. We should do. I wonder how many people would come. How can you gauge an idea of whether or not there's an appetite for a live show?

01:13:26:17 – 01:13:54:21
How do we do that? I don't know, just tweet us. Yeah, maybe Twitter, poll Instagram, but I don't know. Well, we'll work on the mechanics of, the if people are interested in that. Not doing one at the end of the year or whatever it might be. But if you want to vote on the topic for next week, the podcast goes out on Monday, on the Tuesday straight off the bat Instagram Stories.

01:13:54:21 – 01:14:16:19
But can I have a poll? What do you want to see? Addiction or sharks? What kind of meat you think I'm going to be in if if addiction wins, I know, I know going to be fucking hilarious. I'm also can I, can I? It's just to push people in the direction of sharks. We've got apparatus for the pot, we've got props and stuff.

01:14:16:21 – 01:14:47:06
Yes. Right. Okay okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not it's just going to be a slightly more interesting part because this game with the play. Yeah, it would be an interesting show. And if you want to follow us on social Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, whatever, it's all the same handle everywhere at Lads Anon Pod and we will see you next Monday.

01:14:47:08 – 01:15:12:17
Are the night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes? Hi is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.