#37 | The Titan submersible | what we discover is unbelievable!

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I'll put my heart in this. Man always got to talk about the hardest. Everyone. I put my heart in this. I like how it's weird I did that weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, how things go viral on either Instagram or TikTok is incredible. Like, I know a lot of people say that the world is a worse place off with social media.

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It's really bad for mental health. Always looking over at the neighbor, keeping up with the Joneses type attitude and all things like that. But there is some absolute fucking dynamite on social media that just gets me through the day. Like I do need to have a sit down and a 20 minute scroll and reels, you know, if. Oh yeah, yeah, I'd sit there instead of doing anything instead of doing this right now, I'd rather just be on my back just watching TikTok.

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But if I'm being honest, I'd like to just do that, if that's all right. There's this kid in. He's named YJ. He's blown up. He's a. Do you know what it is on Tik Tok? You got to have something odd about you. Like you have to have something that makes you pause, goes. That's weird. What are you watching?

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I think that's the key to TikTok. Like that being okay. About eating, about swallowing properly. Yeah, he fascinates me. He does. He and he has got some mental nasties on him as well. I want, I want to I think we could do an episode on him. We did an episode. What do we do? Paedo hunters. Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with doing an episode on characters on, on on TikTok.

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Well, yeah. I mean, there is. So we did one on I think there's generally like social media. I can't even remember what the fucking episode was now. But yeah, but there is definitely something on the characters that are on TikTok. If you think about them, they're all a bit, just a bit. If you met them, you go to he's odd, you got that model, the white guy from London who sings in it does reggae or ragga.

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Yeah, yeah. And he, he talks with, Jamaican twang just at London accent as well. Like he has. Yeah. He's like he's just in terms of like appropriating a culture. He's just gone. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Yeah. And I don't. And but I don't think, I don't really I'm not the best person to define how you appropriate a culture.

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But my understanding is if you if it comes from a place of sincerity and, and it helps boost something and then he's a positive reflection then then that's all right I think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no I, I'm, I'm, I would agree with you on that because that's what I would have said as well. It's only when it's taken to mock and imitate and be a bit, you know.

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Yeah. Like the one, it's like the one, you know when like white guys have or white girls have dreadlocks. And then again, we shouldn't be wearing those dreadlocks because it's not your culture. And then they go fucking that dreadlocks. So that's not what one upmanship isn't it. Did Vikings have dreadlocks? I don't know, mate. That's what I say okay I don't know.

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I don't know, maybe. I don't think so. Good of them. But that's what they say anyway to go with it. Let's go, let's go.

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That would be much appreciated. Now today's topic I have been waiting to do because it kind of I think about it a lot. I really do think about it. I'll think about it way too much than I should. So today's topic is the Titan submersible. Now I'm going to read you a little bit about it if you don't know what I'm talking about on the 18th.

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On the 18th of June, 2023, Titan, a submersible operated by the American Tourism and Expeditions company Ocean Gate, imploded during an expedition to view the wreck of the Titanic in the North Atlantic Ocean off the coast of. I can never say This Newfoundland New found that. New. Found it. Is it new found in. Yeah. Okay. Can it Canada I can I put it in Google is Newfoundland.

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Newfoundland. It's it throws me off aboard the submersible was Stockton rush, the American chief executive officer of Ocean Gate, Paul Henry Noguera, a French deep sea explorer and Titanic expert. Hamish Harding, another two gentlemen, British businessman. Shaw Star de DeWitt of the that and his son as well Suleyman Rush realized that visiting shipwreck sites was a method of getting media attention.

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Ocean gate had previously conducted voyages to other shipwrecks, including its 2016 dive to the wreck Andrea Doria aboard other submersibles, Cyclops one. So before we start and get into this and get into the kind of the nitty gritty of it, we just want to say that obviously this what this incident was a tragedy. Five people lost their lives.

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And the information that we will be discussing has been gathered by an idiot myself. So it might not be 100% accurate, factually correct. There's lots of conflicting reports, not just the stuff that we're talking about. All right. So but yeah, but it's going to be fucking it's going to it's going to live in you up. Can you remember where you were when this happened.

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Well so so to kind of help you out a bit, it was Father's Day in England. Not really, I didn't I was kind of late to the party. Like I was like, you know, when everyone was sort of buzzing for it when they were first realized that they might feverish me, that that's me. Yet there was this mad excitement about it when it when the, I was standing with my nose maybe three inches in front of the telly like I do when I'm watching the football, standing up my nose pressed against the flat screen TV.

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And I'm just consuming everything, everything that's going on and woke up to that. There had been a submersible, which was a new, new word for me. Yeah. What's the difference between a submersible and a submarine? So I think it's because it's smaller and it and operationally it, it doesn't do as much as a submarine would do I think.

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Okay. All right. So yeah, waking up and seeing what had happened is that a submersible, this capsule had descended in the ocean to go and check on or to go and look at the Titanic wreckage. And then they had lost contact with it, and that's when they started getting excited in it. How weird. Yeah, it's like like. All right, this is quite interesting.

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What they're doing. What? They've lost controls. Okay, now I'm invested. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Like it. What it it was it felt like the world stood still and it cut like we, we discussed it on the last episode. It was like a smaller version of 911. But you also get these little nuggets throughout the years. Do you remember when the, I think he was, the was it the Thai children that were in a cave?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it says the football team that got the went. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they, that she made a film about this, I think, I think I watched it, it was like, yeah, yeah, it's worth watching. My favorite thing about all of that, though, isn't the fact that the kids got the start.

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It was that Elon Musk got really annoyed because someone else was trying to save the kids, and he called the kids were trying to save them a nonce. Yeah.

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Apparently, I think Elon Musk has this deep sea, deep sea diving equipment, like a single capsule that a diver could get in and navigate through these caves under the wall, to go and save these children. And the guy was like, I think it's too big of an experience, diver. I can go free. Yeah, of course you. Are you a nonce?

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Of course you will. You will go in there and you just want the children to yourself. Yeah. So fucking. Oh, yeah. I watched the film about it. I can't remember if it was any good, but I remember being right. But it's a start. There's something about disasters that that just attracts attention. And in a capsule late like 911, I remember when it happened, I remember exactly where I was when that happened, because it was a, I think about 1:00 hour time, lunch time and neighbors was, we were watching neighbors and it just cut the instant termination of the program just went straight to the twins.

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Really? Yeah. And the news then just started rolling for it when it would. Neighbors would have been channel four, I think. Well, maybe one other whatever, but, Yeah. And then you just you sat there, didn't you? You sat there for yet hours, hours and hours. And another one was when the fuel crisis, when there was not much fuel and people queuing up.

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Less exciting, obviously, but but still that got me there. The, there was another one as well. Do you remember the Chilean miners say that there were some miners, and that like, that didn't do it for me. That one? No, no. What really bothered about the miners? I didn't want any harm to come to them, obviously.

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I think I wanted them to get out, but I wasn't really kind of bothered, didn't it? I mean, it didn't not they didn't flip the switch for, you know, one of the ones I liked wasn't sniper mate. That was quality. That was mad. That was it. I mean, quality in that it was like, what the fuck is going on?

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Yeah, I'm going to say, this is gonna sound bad. Okay. Go a little bit gutted when they call him. It's when did it go on a bit longer. And you know, when they found Jay Slater I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's over now. Then they found him. They said a little bit of me though. That's always like was it Jay Slater?

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Right. It could have been apparently that when they found him that the body had been mutilated or eaten or whatever, it's fallen a long way and it. Yeah. So yeah. And we probably would have been wearing his clothes and stuff like that. But it's always in these things where people have. But like, especially in the Titan a day, there is not not that anyone would survive at all.

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But there's always like they haven't I haven't seen the bodies. I haven't been shown, I haven't seen anything I didn't see, like, a sea burial or anything like, could they be washed up somewhere, like. Well, I don't know. They didn't. They do like a see, this is the thing with information around this. I got another one for you, actually, just before we do go into the submersible.

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Yeah. Plane that disappeared. Your love. This one. The M9 for free or something like that. It's the plane that went off the radar and they didn't know where it once it was in the Indian Ocean. Do you know what I'm talking about? I do because someone on Twitter sent this to me via DM, and it was like a documentary or a short, short, it's good.

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And it was like I didn't watch it because I was like, mate, I'm not watching anything you've listened to, like anonymous. You know what? What I'm about. And he was like, no, no, no, no, no, it's nothing about playing. You just see a flashing light and then the plane disappears and, or something along those lines.

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I still don't want to see it. Still don't want to be in a plane when it disappeared. When that news went, though, Ricky, I was just infatuated by it. Yeah, I was, like, following it. And then they never found it. And then it was like two years, and then they found a bit of fuselage on a beach somewhere that washed up.

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But I reckon. Really? Yeah. They found bits. Never. I don't think they found the black box which did tell them what happened, but they reckon it was pilot. The pilot did it. Oh fucking hell. Really? It was like he went a bit mental or something like that. Shit. And I always think is what, what, like what would the black box tell you?

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You pick it up. Unless you said you just go where? No. I think we should get Ben on. Really? To say what I thought the black box does, but imagine, like, it's the speed it was traveling, direction. It was traveling. I don't think it's like the maybe the voice recordings. I don't know what is in the. But what is in the black box.

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I could probably Google it, but can't be bothered. Yeah, no. Fair enough. But, the submersible. Yeah, yeah, the submersible. So leading up to this point, right. And doing my research, there was a lot of regulations and a lot of, you know, the certifications that it needed to be, to be classed as a, I don't know, a boat or submersible, whatever it is, it didn't do any of those.

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Just totally, totally ignored it. Too much red tape. Yeah, too much red tape. And I don't know if I've got the quote here, but the owner, Stockton Rushing I mean that is a, that's a, that's a healthy American name. Stockton.

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He he said that the red tape stifles innovation. It cost too much and it's too timely. So he proceeded to go forward with it. Anyway. Now I'm going to read you a little bit of this as well. So it was made by carbon fiber. And there's other bits and pieces as well. But carbon fiber had been sourced at a discount from Boeing because it was too old for use in the company's airplanes.

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Boeing have stated they have no records of any sale to Stockton Rush or to Ocean Gate. Now, that's your first red flag. Yeah. That's right. You know, maybe. Yeah. Like just so you think about it. Don't buy out carbon. That's not good enough for planes. Experts expressed concerns over the design as well. Didn't they. The carbon fiber that was the yeah I remember him saying that you can't carbon fiber isn't dealt for that level of pressure and he's gone the don't agree.

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No. Well I, we, I mean we feel like we should at least highlight the fact that this is might be dangerous. Still going to stick with it. So yeah. And say Lori isn't alone. Laura said you can't take that vehicle in the sea because no one's owns the sea. You can do what the fuck you want at it, right?

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That's exactly that's exactly what it is. Because there isn't a law there. So it can't be governed by the same. If you did it in the lake Superior in Michigan. Yeah. That massive like the they the Michigan Police Department might have an issue. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Or off the coast of Florida, then you'd be in trouble because they couldn't jurisdiction.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up until a certain point in the sea. That's right. And then it stops. And then no one claims there. So if you go out further enough to see, you can do whatever you want, basically for anything but anything. We commit a heinous crime out there. Well I don't well I mean I'm just guessing there, but I mean, set up your your jurisdiction.

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You've met a woman, you've murdered a woman. It's not your jurisdiction. So, you know, you're just you're you are in the middle of the ocean, like, you know. Oh, that's really bad. Fuck the police here. Well, I like to be the I know, you know, it's it's like your jurisdiction. They have interviewed or because I think there's an investigation that's going on at this moment as to why it happened, but there's been a lot of, former employees and there have been some whistleblowers, and there's been a lot of people that I've given advice as to say that this submersible cannot take the amount of pressure that it is as it's going down and from

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the materials from the hull and it's been through a lot of other testing, and it's kind of just about made it or there's been cracks and they've covered it up and stuff like that. Anyway, it, it would never it through the rigorous testing that I should have gone through for them to be able to go to the bottom of the ocean, to get all the, you know, the techs, it would never have got there.

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So what I think like what I can't get my head round is the guy that owns the company. Yeah. He's like, I think we should do it anyway. Yeah, let's do it. I think let's do it. And you know what? I'm going to get in as well. That's how confident I am. I am going to go I'm going to know what you know what else?

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I'm gonna take some people with me. I can test this on my own. I'm taking family members. I'm taking people with families. Yeah. Apparently. So this is so the the Titanic lies at the bottom of the ocean floor. 12,500ft. And the descent takes two hours to get there. Now, with these dives. So the the Titan and there is there was another one as well.

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They're done. Lots of, I think the Titan who used to be another Cyclops one or Cyclops two. And then it had some updates and it became the Titan. And out of the 9090 dives, only 13 times did they reach their destination. The other times they had to abort the mission because of weather malfunctions. Whatever it might have been.

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That's a fucking pretty shit statistic, isn't it? That success rate? Yeah, of going down to the Titanic right. So I still like, with all these things. Right. So the guy, to be fair, that I'm just right near that done 50 dives, test dives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, no, but I think that this was any different. The depth was more though, wasn't it.

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It was more the 12,000ft. Yeah. And I think they had been to the Titanic three times. Oh so they had made it before. Yeah. Yeah. In 2022. Twice I think it was. And then 2021 one. So something like that. But still with even if you have made it like it, which, you know, reminds me of everybody's me a my car.

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So I have I often have orange or red. I hate your car and I've never been in it. I yeah, I hate every car I've ever owned. I hate them. The engine inspection light comes on, and I know when I'm driving to your house, it's going to take me 2.5 hours. And I know at some point it will come on.

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But I'm willing to take the risk. But with that risk at the end of it doesn't result in a catastrophic implosion where I would be at the bottom of the sea dead. Yeah. And if that was to happen, I probably wouldn't have made that journey. But I still, even though I know that the warning and something could happen, my engine could, you know, go into a ball of flames or it could still and I'd have to park at the side of the road, whatever.

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It's not going to be as catastrophic as that. Yeah. So we would still go through with it. I love you how your missus just does like she doesn't. She just ignores it. Doesn't she know? Yeah. Oh yeah. But you're in that. You're in the passenger seat. Just stare. Staring at the orange light. My, It's horrible. And also, there'll be times where.

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Because I don't really use the car, and then I'll. Then it'll be to. Oh, I need to go to a shop to get milk or need to do something, whatever. And I'll get in the car and the orange engine inspection light will be on, and I'll come back in and I'll say, bloody orange inspection lights. Come on. Yeah, I know it came on a few days ago.

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Oh did it, did you didn't think of telling me. Just carrying on, driving around in this fucking deathtrap. At least let me get it sorted, because you can't fix it. It's impossible. Not. No, it's you know, no one will ever know what is wrong with. But with the, with the submersible. And they know everything that's wrong with it.

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And they still are willing to take the dive. There's like, And there's been so many, like, advice. And I again, with the people that were on board the, the, the billionaire businessman, the French expert, deep sea diver, and the gentleman who was a titanic expert and wanted to see it. And I think he was going to say a billionaire as well, when they had to go in there that to sign, obviously a waiver and on the waiver three times it said it is an experiment.

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This the Titan is an experiment. And obviously there's there's a chance that you could die. Like what? What I try to get my head round. What would put you in that situation that you want to see the Titanic I've seen the I've seen the Titanic. I've seen it. There's nothing that would put me in that submarine. What's the fucking film?

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It's this, right, that I'd just quickly read was. Was James Cameron popping up for me? What advice? He could come from a fucking Titanic expert now, are you, son? Oh, you made a film back in 1996 about Kate Winslet, about a boat that went down, and now you're taking him out for building a submersible. He's like, that's my boat.

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I don't want you guys down there. That was the. It was a bit rebellious. Oh, and I tried to steal my money for my film. Just make your fucking films. Yeah, exactly. So I like. I cannot believe that these people went on there knowing the risks, but the little. I don't know if you've seen it, the the kind of the viewing that if he call it glass of Time, he can't see anything.

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It's not looking through a 15 inch laptop monitor. Yeah. That's the viewing. That's that's how you're going to view it. They couldn't have it bigger because the it's preciousness but keeping the glass. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the people that came forward and said about all the different things that could go wrong, the, the screen apparently could only they had only pressure tested it to 4000ft underwater.

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And the Titanic is like 12,000 plus. But what what what were they thinking? Oh, don't worry about, all right? Just just go with it. It's crazy man. And so I don't know what was going through these people's minds. I mean, I guess they just something, you know, that. Yeah. You know, adventurous expedition just fucking now. Like. And the worst part is.

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All right. Fine. If you want to do that, feel rich. Do we want. It's not going to impact anyone. Black. What? The businessman went there. I'm going. And, son, you're coming with me. And it's like, genuinely, there isn't an 18 year old on earth that wants to go down that fucking thing. No, I had actually read afterwards as well that the son was nervous and scared to go on.

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It. Didn't want to go in. It, but because his dad was going on it and it was Father's Day, he wanted to be of his dad, so he decided to go around. Fuck your dad. That's what I'd say, I think. Yeah. That's like when my on my birthday, my dad made me go up the Eiffel Tower and, but halfway up, I was like, fuck you, dad, you've done this.

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The the submersible. I was reading as well that it's a it's a tiny, tiny like, room that they would get in. So this capsule that they get in, you all kind of sit there with your legs stretched out, and there is no room for anything. You can't, you know, get up and walk about or anything like that.

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It's not like a submarine or anything. You just come in this tiny little capsule and when you get in the hatch, they put the hatch down and then they built it up. They bolt the hatch up. Like, for me, that's that's that's my first. Well, yeah. Just like after they start doing the first one I'd be knocking on it and then I, you just just let me out.

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It is like this door. I think the thing that I can't get over is the thought process of going through these different stages. So they're on this. So the, where the Prince Polar, I believe what is called is the big ship that carries the Titan and it sailed from, you found land to the wreckage of the Titanic, and then they decide, okay, the weather's good enough.

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Let's go. Now, your mind going in that you're on this big boat, and now you're, you know, you're going onto this tiny little submersible. Not cool. That your mindset must be insane to do that. And no to that. They're going to screw it together and you're going to descend for two hours to get to the bottom of the ocean.

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Not in that two hours. But do you think they were allowed to take food? I mean, that's two hours going under the water, like, you would get it would have been some food in there. Dimension 12. What you've taken, instantly just said cheese sandwich in my head. I would have gone for fish that had been microwaved.

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Did that tuna in there? What would you need to put? Peanuts? Robots, actually. Hotel in my toilet. So, like, if you're sitting there, you'd be like, it's the last thing I want is for my dads to, Dad, can you just look out of that little monitor there? Because I need to do a poo in this test. Go back.

00:31:51:10 – 00:32:12:12
Not fucking, you know, so I ordered diagrams with them in there. They're all sort of, uncomfortable. Exactly. I wouldn't even want to be on the boat that the submersible was launched from, let alone in that fuck. You know, you're in the middle of the ocean. No fucking way. And as well, like the average human farts 14 times a day, do you going to be on there?

00:32:12:12 – 00:32:31:23
You're going to get stomach cramps. You're going to need to live like a couple out. Like it's just so this is uncomfortable. And again, mate, did you see what they how they drove the thing with that little joystick. Yes. Exactly right. That that's a crap. Like if I had never seen that, I would be gone. I'm not good on this.

00:32:32:04 – 00:32:51:03
It would be so many warning signs. So many times I would have gone, no, I'm not doing this. This is clearly dangerous. That's, How much is this costed? 250 grand for the kids as well. A 500 grand. Think you can. How much fun you can have with 500 grand on this planet. It's so much fun. It's so much.

00:32:51:05 – 00:33:24:15
Do anything you want or what you need to do is do. This day, I'm gonna spend 500 grand for me and the boy to go down and see the Titanic for us. I told you, can't barely see. Anyway, now it's steering controls consisted of a Logitech 5710 wireless game controller. Now, the use of commercial off the shelf game controllers is common for remote controlled vehicles, such as an unmanned aerial vehicles or bomb disposal robots.

00:33:24:18 – 00:34:04:13
Yeah, I've heard that. What's the not? It's the United States Navy uses Xbox 360 controllers to control periscopes in Virginia class submarines, so it is common practice to use remote controls in the Navy. In the Army, where if the drones are for bomb disposal. But it's not for steering a submersible when you're nearly like 12,000ft under the, you know, I mean, it's like, how much like the the amount of times that I'm at home and my, my mobile phone won't connect to my headphones through Bluetooth.

00:34:04:13 – 00:34:29:14
Yeah. I'm not 12,000ft under the fucking sea. Did you. So as a Bluetooth controller. Well, it's wireless controller. That's crazy. It's like you can't plug it in. I don't even trust I've got a PlayStation remote er, and it's got a lead in it. I don't even trust it to not connect. And I'm in an office. Exactly. So there is so many.

00:34:29:15 – 00:34:57:13
There is again, there is no GPS underwater. The support ship, which monitored the position of the Titan relative to its targets, sent text messages to provide distances and directions. What? So they would they would listen how long it would take to come back and decide, well, yeah. All right. Yeah. And then, they would send text messages to each other.

00:34:57:15 – 00:35:19:11
Yeah. To say where to say where they were. Reception out, down the fucking like this is why I can't, I can't let this incident go because it just fucking wrecks my mind. That wireless controller, what have you have no reception at the bottom of the ocean. Like it's just so many things. I'm like, fucking up. This is mad.

00:35:19:17 – 00:35:47:13
I've just. This is mad. Logitech, f 710 controller called out in 50 million pound lawsuit. Logitech probably guy voice. It's no, we haven't done an event. We didn't turn into that one play submarine. This is the ticket. That's it. $30. $30. Fuck you know, man, you can still buy him recording the messages when the, submersible went down.

00:35:47:13 – 00:36:16:07
Right. So there's conflicting stories. So it's a two hour descent. Some say it was after 45 minutes, and some say it was an hour. And 45 minutes is when they lost contact. And there's conflicting reports on the last message. Receive. So the last message text message they say they received from, the polar prince was confirming. So they keep in contact every 15 minutes.

00:36:16:09 – 00:36:42:03
They were messaging to saying, can you still see us on the screen? No answer. Can you still see us? Do you know where you are? Can you still see us? And they got a text message back. Just saying. All good friends up from this up all good. There's another one that says the last message received was dropped to whites.

00:36:42:05 – 00:37:23:05
So it's assumed the Titan was ascending, not descending when it imploded, because the Titan has these, bits of palace like, so weights on it to keep it, buoyant, neutral. So the closer that you get to the seabed, it'll be a negative buoyancy. So you need to lose some weight so you get neutral buoyancy. Now, if the last text message was dropped, two weights would have been that you're getting closer to the seabed and you need to balance out or there's been a malfunction.

00:37:23:07 – 00:37:52:07
You need to drop your weights. And so that will cause the submersible to rise. So the minute Ricky. So you're saying they just didn't put the joystick down and it went up, they'd have to drop this right? That's right. And so I think as well that yes, they use the joystick but in emergency cases to get yourself going up at a quicker rate, they would drop the weights for them to descend, to ascend faster.

00:37:52:09 – 00:38:24:18
Now I think something like when no one's ever going to know. And again, that's depths of me that I just can't. I can't take it that no one knows what has happened to this submersible. Now it's going up right. And I think the earlier reports that I was reading was that it was going up, and they couldn't get it up to a quick to a quick enough rate, and not because it was having a malfunction.

00:38:24:18 – 00:38:51:19
And they knew that something was up. And so they dropped these weights for it to ascend. And it didn't happen quick enough. And then it imploded. There are other reports that say that they this is standard practice, that they drop the weight so that it has balancing neutral. Anyway, there was so they know there was an implosion right.

00:38:51:21 – 00:39:33:22
And the simulation suggests the implosion of the vessel took less than one second, likely only tens of milliseconds faster than the brain can process information. There would not have been time for the victims to experience the collapse of the hull, and they would have died immediately with no pain as their bodies were crushed. For me, I think they would have known that I like, like like I know like it happened really quickly, but they would have had heard a crack in the how they would have been flashing red as to say, warning danger.

00:39:33:22 – 00:39:53:20
They would have known that they are in fuckin in the book. But but the experts are saying they wouldn't have known. Ricky. You're saying they would have. They would if they they would have been fear. They would have known that they. And then there would have been maybe a flash of light and light and again as well, like, because nobody can report on this, obviously.

00:39:53:22 – 00:40:22:02
But if you were to have you, if you were decapitated. Yeah. Like once you decapitated everything doesn't go off because there's still your brain is still there, there's blood still there. And then it's just waiting for everything to drain out. Right? That I'm. I'm almost certain that there would have been. Why why why why why? Because. Because you want them to have fear of death.

00:40:22:04 – 00:40:44:01
But I think it's that that knowing that I thought that that that the, the recent discoveries of the thing showed that it it wasn't all crumpled up. It was it was shot. So they say in two parts, they conflicting. They. Exactly. They found like the tail. Yeah. On the bottom and what they call a debris field. Yeah.

00:40:44:01 – 00:41:05:14
And in this debris field, the it's assumed as well that, they found body parts. This was and this was four months after. Well, we're not the fully formed hands, so they're just talking about the I don't know, I don't know because there's no fight and there's no footage. And if you want photos, don't you think this is.

00:41:05:14 – 00:41:30:08
Well, it's so deep under the, And they're talking about the compression and everything. Like if the human body, if they were human remains, why haven't they been crushed or, if they have been crushed? When you say human remains, they're not like you don't they're not. They're film. They might like bone and stuff like that. Not not like a fully formed.

00:41:30:10 – 00:41:46:05
Yeah. No, not fully formed. But why have an why would that not be of like crushed it. Because they, they, they said the first report and no I don't think that it was that you want what you want. I don't I just want to see something you want to you want to see how much body parts. That's what you want.

00:41:46:07 – 00:42:05:12
Say they said that they would have been vaporized and they've gone in here. And so if they go in in milliseconds, how can they find. But this was body. This was information ages ago. I think things have changed. I don't think it the pictures show that it isn't. It's still intact to some degree. It still has the shape of it before.

00:42:05:13 – 00:42:47:07
Is it. Yeah. And and again as well. Like with, with this, submersible. And they've got like everything in the, in the you know all the debris in the debris field. You know it does it pretty crushed. I see. So they, they, they've got the got forms after the expedition that they've, they've got all the stuff for evidence to obviously put before the, the sea police or whoever they're called and they're saying that they, you know, the assumed body parts, but it's just the conflicting reports of what are they vaporized?

00:42:47:07 – 00:43:08:07
Weren't they vaporized? Is there body parts? Let me see the body parts. Like, like I just there's just too much that I want to say. Like, what about their clothes that they were wearing? But it has, as anyone seen, any clothes that they were wearing. Like, what happened to that? Surely that doesn't get. I just don't know.

00:43:08:07 – 00:43:29:18
It's newsworthy. I didn't think that it doesn't exist. I just don't think they want to show the world. Yeah, I know, I, but I need I want to see it. Sure. Surely there is like a telegram. Like someone's got the footage, someone's got a Salah's got it, someone's got it. I know they have. If you were a, a billionaire though, who is the answer?

00:43:29:20 – 00:44:10:00
Would you know it? Okay, okay, okay. I wouldn't even hot helicopter. Let me let let me go on. Let me have a chance. Here. Go. If you were, if the submersible were. Fast forward in ten years and there had been 300 successful voyages of nothing happening, people going down to the Titanic wherever you wanted to go. And they said, this is now available to humans at the price of a long haul flight to America.

00:44:10:02 – 00:44:35:02
Would you be up for doing it? My problem? I know the answer is still no, right? But okay, I'll give you some more. Why? I think that, because I'm pretty disposed to to assume that human beings are going to fail somehow. Yeah. And even if it's unlikely, I still feel like it might happen. Like when I'm in the plane, I feel like they have someone as overlooked something somewhere.

00:44:35:04 – 00:44:59:10
For sure this is going to implode. It's the whole thing's coming down all of a sudden. When we went on the Eiffel Tower, I was I realize this is stood there for, you know, countless decades. Yeah, not countless decades. You could literally count. When was it put up for days. I'm going to Google it quickly. I thought when I was going up there, it was going to fall down.

00:44:59:16 – 00:45:17:04
This would this would be on this day. This is the day it decides to all fall down, even though it's checked regularly. And we're we're at the top. Where at the very top. At the top. And just crumpled in. It's just our body bits in the crumpled metal. Somehow, when we fall out the needle at the top of the Eiffel Tower, we're just it's just pierced through all of us.

00:45:17:10 – 00:45:37:03
You, you that. Yeah, in a line. Yeah. I'm just no one else. And the thing is, just like when you're involved in an incident, that way no one remembers your name. They just remember the day the Eiffel Tower fell. Not the people that were in it. No. Tell me one name of one person in Twin Towers that died.

00:45:37:05 – 00:45:55:03
I don't know. I. I couldn't tell you what I'm saying. So if you if you're going to go, you're better off going in a way that isn't overshadowed by the magnificence of the event. Yeah, and I totally agree. I just hate it. Human beings with fail. I just think he would. The one warning signs. No red tape.

00:45:55:03 – 00:46:22:15
There's a reason why red tape and bureaucracy exists. And sometimes it's important. Don't build your own submarine and go down to 12,000ft. Basically not. That's that. That is that's sage advice. And you might want to tell that to real estate tycoon Larry Connor of Ohio, because he's planning on taking the same fateful voyage, which these guys did.

00:46:22:17 – 00:46:48:01
And he is got his own submersible as he is doing his. Yeah, yeah, he's been better built himself. I was I'm not interested. He I think he's probably built himself and I'm like, what's his name? His name is Larry Connor. I've got to check out what he's up to and thinks of it. Then he look at look at the thing is, is, well, like, like is he is he going to go through the rigorous test?

00:46:48:01 – 00:47:18:16
The, the Titan needed to have gone. What? I don't know what he would just be like. Well, like, there's no laws out there. I don't have to get certified. So fucking. Yeah, I'll literally do what I like. Yeah. He's going for. Is he? Well, look, I'd rather people be doing this and not doing it before we get on to, that I nearly forgot during the kind of whole part of the submersible being being lost.

00:47:18:18 – 00:47:41:12
Do you remember a time that reports were coming out? I think it's from the Canadian Air Force. The little taps up. That's right, that's right. That they thought. Yeah, that they were doing Morse code. I thought they were. We all thought that's when it exploded. It was that moment. That was before. Yeah. Yeah yeah. It's it's fascinating. They're trying to communicate and then they are.

00:47:41:14 – 00:47:59:00
Yeah. They were interviewing an expert on NBC. They broadcast Nova to BBC and he was got it's not them. And they were like, well hang on, let's give it. It might be them. It's not them. There is no chance you'll be able to hear that. They said this was too much going on down there. It isn't them like that.

00:47:59:00 – 00:48:25:24
It's just it's crazy because I was like, yeah, I know that there's a morse code. It's definitely more a it's definitely them. And what they were saying it was, it was done in a, in a time frame every half hour. And it was the same pattern of noises. So only a human could replicate that. And there and then you just get kind of like, fuck, they are at the bottom of the ocean stuck.

00:48:26:01 – 00:48:47:05
And there was a part during all of this that where they had all these kind of rescue ships, they couldn't locate where it was. It's in the bottom of the ocean where the Titanic is. 12 hours have been. They don't know where this fucking thing is. They're trying to find it. There's a chance that they are still alive, sitting at the bottom of the ocean and they cannot find it.

00:48:47:07 – 00:49:06:06
And when they find it, how are they going to get it up? They had no idea. They had no idea how to get it back to the surface. It's such a fucking madness. But I'm fascinated by it. But if they hadn't done that and it was just they had gone through all the red tape, it would just be a submarine that went down there and came back up.

00:49:06:07 – 00:49:23:01
No one give a shit. But this guy's like, nah, I'm going to make my own one. You going to test it in there? Done it before? It's fine. Do it again. Let's see what happens. And I don't mind I don't I can't look quite like that. Let's see what happens kind of attitude. But just don't take loads of people with you.

00:49:23:01 – 00:49:48:23
Others do it yourself. Yeah. Whatever you are. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. I agree like with these, a lot of the things that come out that I saw that I didn't really quite, didn't really sit well with me of billionaire businessman like glad it happened to them and like, boys. But it's kind of that boys with their toys or billionaires with their toys doing these stupid things.

00:49:48:23 – 00:50:05:20
It's always going to end in a so also it's all their fault. And I was a bit like, it's a bit fucking harsh. Yeah. To be like, they deserve it. Like they are going where no man has kind of gone before in these things. There was this actually, wasn't it. There was this attitude of like their rich, who cares about them.

00:50:05:22 – 00:50:24:23
Exactly. This been a really thing as well. Where a billionaire gentleman from England, I think. You think he was his yacht sank off the coast of Italy, and he had his daughter on board and a few other people, and everyone would just kind of, like, shrug their shoulders like, well, I was a billionaire in their boat. What are you going to do?

00:50:25:00 – 00:50:47:20
No. Never mind. Get on with it. That's a bit like because they've got money, that their life is of less value. So fucking. It's just I don't know, I just found it a bit stuck in the throat a bit. Yeah. With, when we're talking about the submersible and I'm trying to convince you to go on, what about Elon Musk?

00:50:47:22 – 00:51:15:22
Richard Branson, and, what's the other dude's name? Amazon. Man. Bezos. Bezos. They have their little, ships, their little planes that they fly so high, they come out of the Earth's orbit. Yeah. So you can see the curvature of the Earth. No, but you're not actually in proper space yet. But they've done it safely. No. And people are paying you.

00:51:15:22 – 00:51:43:09
But I had to. I'd rather do that than I'd rather do that than the, than go down in this up if I had a choice of one or the other. Yeah, I'll for sure. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So. Okay. Can I interest you in a parachute jump or bungee jump or submersible or submersible? What? What was the question?

00:51:43:11 – 00:52:07:03
Which one would you rather do? Bungee jump? I would, yeah, I'd be worried. I'd be deeply concerned about both. And the further east you go in the world, the more concerned about life. Wise life. I just think you've got a better chance in the UK with a bungee jump than you have in Thailand. Oh. It's a. Yeah, I see what you mean.

00:52:07:05 – 00:52:27:16
They say we mean if you go, I wanna go Thailand. I'm going traveling or Cambodia or wherever. And they go, oh, do you want to go on that zip line? No. No one's going to fucking zipline. What are the rigs in this country? What kind of regulations they got here that I care about anything like that? That even if someone dies in the zipline.

00:52:27:18 – 00:52:49:11
Well, apparently with this, they don't fucking care about regulations. In the ceva let you do anything, so I think this it draws to a conclusion that neither of us would ever go on the Titan or anything like that. Do you know what? I wouldn't even go on a helicopter. I know, not really, but I don't know. No, no, no, I just want to be safe.

00:52:49:11 – 00:53:15:13
I'm warning signs. Do you need, like, how many more times the helicopter have to crash and blow up? Do you need before you stop letting them know exactly? I wouldn't even get in a hot air balloon. I don't think that they're pretty nasty as well as how that doing. However, they fuck that, fuck that. We have a dilemma and something only you know.

00:53:15:13 – 00:53:43:01
The dilemma is called what's the etiquette? That's something only you know is that it's done. You that it's done. Okay, good. That is Daniel. The topic for next week. I have I was going to say I've put this off. And I have put it off. I'll be honest with you. It's been I genuinely it's been our most requested topic and it's mental health.

00:53:43:03 – 00:54:03:17
And I've wanted to keep it arm's length because I just for me personally, I don't think I was in the right mindset because I, you know, we were just starting the podcast. Things are bit, you know, uneasy in my life. And I thought, who am I to kind of chat about my mental health and not lecture people, but, you know, you get the gist of it.

00:54:03:17 – 00:54:31:07
I don't. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I think, so, so now might be the right time. And that is what we're going to be going with next week. So we're going to rip the plaster off. How do you combat your mental health? We want to hear from you. How do you regulate your moods? Is there anything that you do, particularly that kind of can bring you out of a stupor of anxiety or depression?

00:54:31:09 – 00:54:39:08
What have you found that helps?

00:54:39:10 – 00:55:05:06
Process? Oh yeah. The brass. Okay. Any, or any lotions, potions or remedies? I got mad on, a Tik Tok one. Someone sent me this TikTok and it was taking vitamin D and K, and what was it? Fucking, magnesium tablets taking them, and and it solves all of your, anxiety and anything else didn't work.

00:55:05:08 – 00:55:24:16
Didn't work? You know what it's like the anxiety. It's been it's been hijacked by people who I don't think are anxious. You reckon? I mean, so much of it now is. So it's almost like the the mental health thing is, or it's almost like.

00:55:24:18 – 00:55:45:14
It's so easy to self-diagnose. Yeah, yeah, I know, I think it might be quite damaging. Yeah. But I've got anxiety. So, so x, y and z. This I know, I know, I'm anxious I might there's a difference. Like genuine anxiety is horrendous. Is a horrendous debilitating. Can't move tomorrow. I mean it's it's horrible for sure. It's horrendous.

00:55:45:14 – 00:56:07:15
And then you've got but because it's so widely used the weight of that word is which means nothing. Now anybody says, oh, I'm anxious. They might feel anxious about a job interview. That's normal. You're suffering with anxiety because you're anxious about a job interview. But people are so quickly to, to, they say, yeah, this is, let's go.

00:56:07:17 – 00:56:32:09
Stop talking crap about this. All right? So if you've got any stories you want to send in about what we've just mentioned about mental health, do you know what? I know this loads because you emailed him previously. So get those emails in DMs and social get a lot anon pod at gmail.com and we will read you out. All the stories that you, that you send.

00:56:32:09 – 00:57:06:15
And now we're going to be going to dilemmas. Oh. So, this time you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad because that will give you a I can in your soul, alone, in your flat. Please talk to your flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve that. Like you're safe to get nice warm between breaking your land.

00:57:06:17 – 00:57:29:23
I've recently come out of a pretty long term relationship. Meaning I've been putting myself out there in the dating world for the first time in ages, and somehow I've been absolutely smashing it. I've been on 2 or 3 dates with multiple women, and things have gone well and gotten fairly fruity with all of them. But I haven't done the deed with any of them yet.

00:57:30:00 – 00:57:55:06
I need some advice as to how I should play it. Do I need to commit to one of them, or can you date multiple people at once? What's the etiquette? I get that I should probably be open with them, and I appreciate they're probably seeing other people too. What are your experiences of telling people you're dating that you're dating other people concerned it would massively put them off?

00:57:55:08 – 00:58:15:02
It's turning from being a lot of fun into a fucking nightmare. Please help me. How long has he been doing this? What does it say? No. It just says he's come out of a pretty long term relationship. That's it. I don't I genuinely, in this instance, I think it's fair game. What you're doing, I think is absolutely fine.

00:58:15:02 – 00:58:40:05
This is what I did. I wasn't sure it wasn't like, you know, there was lots of different women, not lots. There were more than I was used to. Oh, yeah. And, because you don't know until you found the one. What? What's correct. So you can't just put all your eggs in one basket because you don't know how it might work.

00:58:40:07 – 00:59:01:00
I don't think you should say anything. I think you have your right to to to work out what's right for you. Because you might make the wrong decision to be stuck in a new relationship that might not be the right way. Or if you give yourself a bit of time to make the right decision. Now, the problem is, is if you're seeing people to the point where there's feelings starting to arise, do not mean.

00:59:01:00 – 00:59:22:17
And it's like been months and you're actually starting to feel something. And at that point you've got to make a decision. But in the first instance, if you just sex in around the neck in little Horndog, you just have sex, sex in there and just having lots of sex in that thing about. Yeah, I think and you've been in a long term relationship of course you're going to want to do that is absolutely fine.

00:59:22:23 – 00:59:48:16
But you just don't. If you feel like it's getting to a point where one of them might be in serious, then you need to. Yeah, you need to to to to knock it on the head. I kind of knew when I stopped pretty early, but the, I just, I was ready when I met Ollie. I was ready to move in.

00:59:48:16 – 01:00:07:24
Move on with. Yeah. And into a new relationship. So it was kind of easy for me then, is I didn't want to do one night stands. And then I met Ollie, and then it was all sort of it all worked out for me. So it's quite a seamless thing. But but if, if, if I'd perhaps met someone else, I wasn't sure then I probably wouldn't have said anything.

01:00:08:01 – 01:00:29:13
And yeah, I would, I think the main thing is, is. So I think it's cool to tell them that, by the way, I was in a long term relationship. I don't know, like I would say, you still, like, early and say, no, sorry, no strings. I'm not looking for a relationship. Just looking for a bit of fun.

01:00:29:14 – 01:00:53:23
Yeah, put that out there. And then if if you're doing that, you're meeting up regularly. You're doing the the fruity things. And, you know, if someone is into you more than it's just a bunk up, then you would need to kind of be like, I'm not. I may, may be kind of misreading this, but I'm not as into it as you are or this is getting a bit serious.

01:00:53:23 – 01:01:18:13
I didn't want it to turn out like this. I think it's important to to kind of read that, try and read your emotions, and not string anybody along that think that it's turning into a relationship. Yeah. You just got a void. But you're fine at the moment. And let's all this is true and you are, you know, feelings are, you know, starting to revert.

01:01:18:15 – 01:01:33:16
Yeah. Or you could just, tonight, tell them, see what happens. Tell one of them if she takes it badly, don't tell the others. Yeah, yeah. Then you just lost one. Oh, just talking about each other. And then, so in men's head, you're like, if I tell everyone maybe they don't want to have sex with each other.

01:01:33:16 – 01:01:54:22
And, I could have one big sort of orgy. That's that's how men brains work sometimes it would be nice. It's like saying, everyone, like, everyone wants people to be honest and open, authentic. And I'm going to tell all of them. You tell all three of them, they will not make fuck. Yeah. You say you live with no one, so.

01:01:54:22 – 01:02:28:04
Oh, brilliant. And now we're going to go into something only you know why? Something. You know. That it's Daniel. My wife and both kids went to the gym. I was at home. I suddenly got a Snapchat from my wife. I thought to myself, that's funny. She doesn't have Snapchat. Oh, well, she must have downloaded it while the kids were getting ready.

01:02:28:06 – 01:02:53:19
So we start chatting. Nothing weird. I ask her, is that you? And the reply comes back, yes, and I get a sort of selfie confirming it's her. Well what? What else am I meant to do? Pants down? Nope. Out. And I take a quick dick pic and send that to her. That oh, go, go in. The message comes back a few moments later.

01:02:53:21 – 01:03:18:04
Dad, it's Daniel. Was that meant for me? No, no, of course it wasn't meant for you. I thought you were mum. You said you were mum. Anyway, a good few minutes later. Well, I, I'm thinking to myself I just sent a dick pic to my son. Another message comes through on WhatsApp from my wife. What have you done now?

01:03:18:06 – 01:03:40:24
Turns out she was at the hairdressers getting her hair done and he had her phone. He thought it would be funny to pretend it was mum. Well, egg on his face. Apparently he was sitting there in the hairdressers and suddenly looked a bit shocked. They came home. Our eldest was in stitches with laughter. Our youngest was a bit quiet.

01:03:41:01 – 01:04:00:03
I told him it's perfectly normal. We love each other and our marriage. If he wants to pretend he's mum again, then go ahead. There's plenty more where that came from and it's only going to be worse. And that is something only I know, mate. That's madness. And Dick picks the ADF up based on the shocking thing of it.

01:04:00:05 – 01:04:33:17
The it's the thing of he going from is that. Is that you babe? Yes it is. And like a kind of selfie sent him straight straight away Dick pic. There you go. There you go. That will happen. Even if I was talking to my misses in a racy kind of manner, which will almost never happen, I still would be sending dick pics to get to see it loads.

01:04:33:19 – 01:04:53:08
And then after looking at the height of it, just like oh, that is not appetizing, that is not going to make me go, yeah, let's, let's just fucking get it on the lad to say the dick switch over there. Like you said, there's people doing pose and send it to each other. This doesn't send dick pics I think.

01:04:53:08 – 01:05:16:20
Yes. Oh yeah for sure. For sure they would be dick pics as in flaccid or fully erect like fully erect, a bit spat out there in a that's like that's I'm sure you shouldn't send an erect penis. You might. Nah I yeah. Anyone out there wants to let us know any stories around that. Or if you ever seen your mate's erect penis, I would be, I would recoil.

01:05:16:20 – 01:05:41:20
I think if you were standing in front of me of an erection. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That would if I saw through their trousers. Mate, I've just got a weird boner, that I could get over that before sending me pictures of their erect penis. I do, I do not want to see that. And I don't get any ideas if you listening any of my mates, I remember and,

01:05:41:22 – 01:06:08:02
Spur on David's And his on the old board Spurs board we used to post on. And I found the picture of a massive erection and just posted on the board when we. It's like the Wild West that most. Did you get to tell it off? Did anyone ever go? They loved it. He left it. If there's anybody listening and you have a dilemma, we will.

01:06:08:02 – 01:06:30:19
So er if you have something only, you know, deep in the recesses of your body that you've never told anyone that you promised yourself you would see it in concrete and keep it at your feet. Send it into us. Lads, anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out for you. Just get it off your chest.

01:06:30:19 – 01:06:49:10
You'll feel a lot lighter. Next week's topic is going to be mental health. And if you've got any stories or any kind of remedies or anything that you do that helps regulate your mental health, or if you just kind of in a bit of a, in a bit of a bad spot at the moment, you just want to chat, whatever it might be.

01:06:49:12 – 01:07:18:22
Again, email us at lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will see you next Monday. On the night hazy light Band of brothers playing tunes. Hi is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Lover music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is we like to speak. And yeah, times change.

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But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.