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Full Episode Transcript
00:00:01:03 – 00:00:30:20
Rick, do you know that there's rumors that Radiohead might be touring again? Is it? Yeah. They. So when they go when they do something new, Radiohead, they tend to form a new company. And there's been a new company that's formed. That's something like, they you. 24. 25. Which even means new music, which is unlikely to be new music because of talks about them not doing anything in the short term, but they might tour or something.
00:00:30:22 – 00:00:52:10
Well, I've been touring, the small has been touring. Why did I not want to do any new music? I just don't feel it's, forthcoming. It's not flowing. I don't know, man. I'm fucking. I'm sick to my back teeth for Thom Yorke. I'll just like my favorite band, hands down, as you well know. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. At least one song every day.
00:00:52:10 – 00:01:10:11
Oh, come on some point. He's just a fucking nominee. Like, you know what he said? You know what? What really made me up this morning. This morning I read it. You went. I don't give a fuck if Radiohead fans want us to tour. Like, I get it. You've made it so big, you don't have to give a fuck anymore.
00:01:10:13 – 00:01:38:00
Yeah, but I want to still enjoy your music. So stop being a cunt, mate. This is how I feel about now, is it? He. He says stuff like that. Everyone that naive me knows Oasis are my most favorite band. Seen him loads. Lived my kind of life as I feel I was fucking Oasis. But it's now that I'm older and I hear stuff that Noel says.
00:01:38:02 – 00:01:58:08
And I just think, why would you say that? Like, why would you say that? What is it? What is it? It's sort of like what? Ballpark politics stuff. Yeah, it's politics, but also like, it's kind of like it doesn't really matter because I've got more money than you, so I don't really care, mate. Or it's like, I don't give a fuck what Oasis fans think.
00:01:58:08 – 00:02:17:07
So just do what I want, right? Isn't that always what it's been like though? Kind of like anti it going against the grain and yeah, kind of and shouldn't be the grain should they. The fans should not be the fucking grain. Do it about anything. I don't fucking care. But not your fucking fans. The fans shouldn't be the grain.
00:02:17:09 – 00:02:41:07
No, that is not. That's it. I thought Thom Yorke was always quite, you know, for the fans. Really? No. And as for himself, he always hated. Hated the attention. Like. And you know what it was? It was that. And I'm thinking now, sort of lying in my bed, this was like, first thing, this is why you shouldn't go on your phone for the last anyone to try to better their life.
00:02:41:07 – 00:03:00:16
The last thing you should do every morning is just pick up your phone instantly. But you do. You just pick up the phone, right? And I'm sort of like, I've got quite excited by this idea that Radiohead. And then I was thinking, well, what's a Radiohead talk? I to even look a sound like now they're not just going to go and play the album all in their best songs, they know they can.
00:03:00:18 – 00:03:21:01
I write on purpose, find the most obscure set they can possibly find, and then just go, there you go, right? Yeah. But just to become, that's what they'll do just to be assholes. That's what they'll do. Like that. There was I did it when they were touring In Rainbows. I remember our mutual friend Jack. I think he listens to this actually, because he sometimes messaged me about it.
00:03:21:03 – 00:03:41:08
But our mutual friend Jack went, we, I went to see Radiohead tour In Rainbows and some other songs in 2007. Eight, something like that at Victoria Park. It was oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I would, I would probably say is the best gig I ever went to, probably my number one. I remember that so fondly. I think about it often.
00:03:41:10 – 00:04:09:06
I think when I think about a longing for the years past and an experience in my youth. 2008 Victoria Park, Radiohead, that that's what I think about often. Wow. Bit build off mana. Listen to the music. Yeah. In rainbows, my number one band. Yeah, that's right, my number one album of all time. Yeah, like like it's partly so in my opinion, a perfect album to listen to it right on one.
00:04:09:08 – 00:04:40:01
On one night they played In Rainbows and all their hits. That was the night I went to, and the second they played, all like B-sides and and, bits of it and rainbow. Yeah, yeah, I got that night and I got, I got there. I was like, yeah, wicked wonder if you remember that. I remember when I went to see Eminem at Milton Keynes Bowl and I went the first night and he brought out 50 cent and fuckin D12 and oh, and like Cypress Hill were there.
00:04:40:01 – 00:05:03:03
And then like the second night, it was just absolutely some dead beats that I got from the streets. I was like, have you ever went on that second not absolutely gutted. What, what what do you think like as when Eminem came out people younger audience vote but only know him now where I just struggle a little bit because he's so it's all a bit shit and corny, right.
00:05:03:03 – 00:05:23:15
And he's just sort of lost these way is anger. And he's had just left him and now he's just I don't know what even produces now. Yeah, yeah I and this is a bit rubbish right. Yeah. But I still want to listen to the old Eminem albums. But I don't want people to know that I'm listening to Eminem now because I'm not.
00:05:23:17 – 00:05:41:05
And even the old ones, it can't be done today. But it was good enough just listening. In your office, someone to say, yeah, I'll accidentally leave my activity on on Spotify. And someone I say can't risk it, right? We, we spoke about Eminem on a previous pod, and someone had, emailed in and they said that you haven't.
00:05:41:05 – 00:05:54:06
If you haven't listened to the latest album, you should do because he goes back on his, murdering spree because it's the killing of Slim Shady. He's his.
00:05:54:08 – 00:06:14:09
Horrendous sell for a coating of everyone and gunning for them at that. So so I, I the first three albums I thought were great, I really enjoyed them and they were the time I was 18 when I first started the first album, we talked about this, then we and I love those, but then now I'm not sure I'm ready.
00:06:14:09 – 00:06:35:08
I won't anymore, even if it's exactly like the old one. I enjoyed kamikaze because he was and enjoyed the album, but I think like if you're 40, if you'd like, and 43 and you're still listening to all Eminem's new music, I don't know. It's not for me anyway. I'm just fucked off of music at the moment.
00:06:35:10 – 00:07:04:06
Just angry about everything, really. The night hazy like Band of Brothers playing Change High is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongue in cheek. As long as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what happened remains promise.
00:07:04:08 – 00:07:44:19
I'm Ricky, he's fucked off. Sorry. He still have two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and I'll feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast flash Ryan on the last podcast. Hills to Die on. Yeah, someone sent this email in. Normally I would kind of go through these in the Thursday pod quickie with Ricky, but this one I want to speak about with you, my somewhat pathetic kill to die on is that I'm not sure Stevie Wonder is blind.
00:07:44:21 – 00:08:10:09
Call it a conspiracy, call it ridiculous, call it whatever. But having been around the music industry, I'm completely aware of things that people fabricate to give themselves an edge in the market. Now, don't get me wrong, Love is music banger after banger, but I think the industry saw Ray Charles and thought, we'll have a tickle on that and the rest is history.
00:08:10:11 – 00:08:43:11
As good as he is, I don't think he would have had the musical success had he had not been for his unique selling point of him being blind. We'll never know. I think it would be the funniest deathbed confession of all time. Yes. He lifted his glasses, winked and said, gotcha, bitch, I sent nine. Hahahahahahaha, mate, you know I've been, you know, I know, I know and things come for months and months of yes, yes yes yes.
00:08:43:13 – 00:09:08:04
Right. They just like we need a blind. We we need a blind. See, there's loads of money in this. Let's get one. Yeah. Do we can make one better. We can make it blind. The better than right, Charles? Definitely. Yeah. Saying that, is he better than Ray Charles? How much more credit is he given because he can't see the keys and, you know, is he even that good?
00:09:08:06 – 00:09:27:04
I don't know, it's not for me. I look, and this one's people up, and I'm not going to. I mean, I've already done it, but the. I'm not. I don't care if you like Stevie Wonder. Right. And there's all kinds of different versions of music and film and everything. Your specific taste is a kind of correlation of everything you've got that's gone into you up until that point.
00:09:27:04 – 00:09:47:08
You hear the music, you get into it. So it doesn't matter that I don't like, I don't even like I don't have any opinion about Stevie Wonder other than the fact that he's lying to you. Yeah, yeah. I, I'm not fond of his music. Really? There's a couple of, you know, bangers, but I wouldn't say I am, a fan of his.
00:09:47:11 – 00:10:05:20
I have no idea, but there are. I, like, you know, when you just stumble across conspiracy theories where he. He's standing there and someone shakes his head and try to shake his hand. Yeah. Or passes him the mic and he knows where the mic is. I'm like, he fuckin. How did he know where? They're my clothes. Do you ever see that Doctor Dre?
00:10:05:20 – 00:10:13:16
You just said, like, when Stevie Wonder rings him at the all hours, any time, many hours, because he doesn't know what time is.
00:10:13:18 – 00:10:29:18
He just goes to bed when he gets tired. It don't matter what time of day. Yeah. Why is it okay to laugh at blind people? It kind of, isn't it? Like no one can say, you know, like they don't get any back in any way. Blind people know. But look at us. We're completely comfortable laughing about him being blind.
00:10:29:20 – 00:10:49:00
You're like, that way. I'm happy making the joke. And I know that no one's going to email me. Going really upset about what you said about blind people. Why do they not get why don't why do blind people not get a fair crack at a whip when it comes to prejudice? Well, you know what? We have a listener who is blind is a blind.
00:10:49:02 – 00:11:08:16
You given that way, but. Good. Yeah. I'm sorry. Blind Brighton, fully designed for blind. Blind Tim has been around since that. He's like an OG of the fighting cock mate. He is. He supports. He lifts me up on this podcast. I tell you that, you know, emails he sends me in another setting even as he writing those emails, no one knows.
00:11:08:16 – 00:11:29:08
I don't like him, not even those that I did. I interview blind him once. Yeah, I know, I know. And the first question I ask is like Adi, masturbate? Like, not that. How do you get out of your cocoon? Obviously we know how that works. Yeah, but what is it? He's the sound of porn, is it? I think in these experience he can see a very small.
00:11:29:09 – 00:11:45:04
You can see like a pinprick. Something like that. Right. Okay. A really far away. I think it was or something, somewhere along those lines. But he does all the stuff the normal people do. Not normal. But you know, I mean the all seeing people can do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what I also found out there's different degrees of blindness.
00:11:45:04 – 00:12:02:10
And to be registered blind, you don't need to be completely blind. So, what I want to know, Tim, is in the blind community. Is that prejudice to people that can see a bit more like in the in the gay community? Straight. So gay white men are almost like, considered not gay in the gay community. This is what I've heard.
00:12:02:12 – 00:12:21:11
I spoke to a mate of mine who's gay. You gotta go, mate. I've got a couple. Gay marriage. Yeah. Gaping. Yeah. I don't call him that because it's just his brother, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember speaking. I remember the a speaking to Tim. It must have been him. I think it was a handsome cap. I mean it's stunning.
00:12:21:13 – 00:12:50:17
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really like. Yeah. He's really good looking Tim. And so in that if you're interested in that community, there is there's like degrees into which how much prejudice you've received based on. So it's not just being gay is not as gay as perhaps some of the other elements of LGBT. Right? Ron and I love Jess.
00:12:50:17 – 00:13:18:21
If you're listening to this, please let me know exactly how this works. And even if you do know to see an email from a person, like lesbians have potentially a beef with other areas of LGBT. Okay. Plus what? Really? Yeah. And I've never knew. I never really understood why they all get grouped up together. Because lesbians and homosexual males are different.
00:13:18:23 – 00:13:42:11
Yeah, but they have a common plight. Their experiences are different to straight people. So understand why that's. But then there's also there's lots of other political stuff now. Now that's now jumped in and you think, well, Will is a lesbian couple. Are they having the same experiences as a trans trans couple or not a transsexual person. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah.
00:13:42:11 – 00:14:04:00
And why is asexual added in. Because asexual means you're not feeling sexy. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah. You know I want the sexy. It is. Is that people. They've just said if you are different to heterosexual then you're going in this world with us. We're in the game. Well what do loads of different colors in the flag? Don't worry, we've got your back.
00:14:04:00 – 00:14:27:05
That represents all of all your differences and just smash all together. Yeah. So is it that then. So maybe this is what it is from trying to reach to understand the asexuals is different from heterosexuals, because it's that there's a different proclivity sexually in that they don't want sex or they don't find it sexy. But then you get pansexual who do have heterosexual relationships.
00:14:27:05 – 00:14:47:11
But I also have everything else on top of that. What's that right there? Being gay. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah. I like it when people come out of pansexual, like I like they did come out and go, yep. Fuck everything. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, I love everything. Some girl I believe she posted it on her Facebook that she's pansexual so.
00:14:47:11 – 00:14:58:07
Right. Yeah. Yeah I could, I could see that. What. See where does the line end Rick. What what things do you stop? What's not sexy?
00:14:58:09 – 00:15:21:05
That's the question I'd like to ask. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is that is a really interesting question. I just, it just reminded me, actually, we had a conversation last week from, I think this last week, the submission for something. None of you know, where that gentleman had used grind, because he was just feeling horned up and needed to get a beach.
00:15:21:07 – 00:15:57:19
So I went and got it, but I think. But that man, he's gay, though. That fight. Well, I don't know, I, I'm pansexual. He might be pansexual. Someone. Now if you were listening to this and you send that in, please email us back because I need to know. But know how this happened. But I think our conversation actually, I don't even know if this conversation was born from this, but it was about the, same sex like, gay male relationships, because men generally, the stereotype is that they are more, what's the word?
00:15:57:19 – 00:16:29:15
I'm like horny. Yeah. And what a gay male relationship. Is it just more sexual driven because they are both horned up? I think was our question. No one emailed in. Really disappointed. Yeah, maybe. Maybe they think it's none of our business. Shouldn't be podcast. Yeah and I that's true. But if you are pansexual and you do need a beach, the fact grind is there and it's known as a kind of a hookup app, that's.
00:16:29:17 – 00:16:48:16
But if you're heterosexual, I don't think you can just go on as I've never been on Tinder. I don't think you just go in there for in your guaranteed to be a Bayesian. I yeah, I mean, that would be that'd be an app in itself when it wouldn't have it because women are not build that way. Men are.
00:16:48:17 – 00:17:14:15
That's why Grindr works. I think some some ladies out there really enjoy based on yeah yeah yeah they do that. Absolutely love it. And there's a, there's a lot of men that enjoy receiving it. So there could be a badge app out there, but, you know, I don't yeah. And I, I, if anyone did let me know, like, why why blind people are not protected.
00:17:14:17 – 00:17:32:16
Deaf as well. I think it's because they've just been around for a long time. You think like I, we've been coating off deaf and blind people for hundreds of years. They kind of just. It seems to be they're just used to it. Now, where's the new discrimination that's quite fresh? And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, where does that come from?
00:17:32:21 – 00:17:53:12
Whereas blind and blind, blind and deaf people are like about this for years. Yeah. We've been there from Dot, man. Yeah. Aren't you fucking sticking up for us I think have blind people as well because like you said, there's varying degrees of blindness, some benefit of varying degrees of race. We I don't want to I don't want to get loaded here.
00:17:53:14 – 00:18:10:18
And I'm not sure this is the best platform, but the mixed race people receive less racism. Them non mixed race. Well, yeah, I think that's what, you talking about. Should we be more racist to the darker people? Is that. Is that what you were saying? No. Not we I don't think we should be racist. Are you were saying we to.
00:18:10:20 – 00:18:27:08
They said as everyone as the only white person on this podcast, I feel very uncomfortable. Right. Let's see what you doing. I don't think we should be racist to anybody. No, I'm asking the question. And I'm not even sure as mixed race fell out of my mouth. I don't know if that's okay anymore. Is it your heritage?
00:18:27:14 – 00:18:45:17
Jewish heritage? My bad, because it's important. I think you can say. I think you can say either. Yeah, but my dad still thinks you can say colored and you can't. Yeah. You never he's never kind of worked out that that isn't offensive anymore. It is offensive. So what my point is, is I wasn't intentionally being that way. Right.
00:18:45:23 – 00:19:06:19
But I am asking the question, do mixed race to Jewish heritage? People feel that I experience less racism than someone who isn't Jewish heritage fully? Well, I mean, you're talking to one right now, so yeah, but no, you don't look like you've got Jewish heritage. You just look like you're from India. Do you, do you think? Yeah, you're India.
00:19:06:19 – 00:19:33:10
India looking. Yeah. Okay. So this is quite interesting. Is it important to. Yeah. People know that the audio heritage. Yeah it is. Yeah. And I think it's because I would I normally get from when I was younger, people would speak to me about it. They would often assume Spanish, Italian, something like that. I thought no, no, no, I didn't ask what you would.
00:19:33:12 – 00:19:58:07
East Asian? No. West South Asian CSF. I thought you South Asian from the. Yeah. From the go. Oh that's good. That's me. I wouldn't have been interested in you if you weren't, you you're my first one. No. Actually not. Yes. I fucking like, Chinese. Say. Yeah. Shyam. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Use a ledge. Not as much as the letters you do.
00:19:58:07 – 00:20:30:10
You know what I would say? Per capita, Brown people are the coolest people I've met. Yeah, Brown per capita, I mean, I don't know, but from where you're from, I grew up in the most multicultural part of London. Yeah, like in Haringey. It's like there's like, 200 languages spoke. It's mad. That is mad. Yeah. It's crazy. I would say in terms of the chilled coolest people, if I had to group something, a group of people up in a positive way.
00:20:30:12 – 00:20:58:19
Yeah, I would say generally brown people are the coolest, the friendliest and the most likely I'd end up being friends with. Really? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. The brown set around it. We, we got, another, interesting hill to die on email that I, shot over to you. Yeah, I've got it. Can you, can you play that?
00:20:58:20 – 00:21:05:08
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's just checking in.
00:21:05:10 – 00:21:34:04
Just following on from, previous pause on the Hill I'd rather die on. Yeah, I got one. So you get home from work, you exchange pleasantries with him, says, go in the kitchen, you know, see a lot of plates, you know, in the sink, dried cutlery and plates on the side. So I go in without even thinking about it.
00:21:34:06 – 00:21:59:03
Clink, you know, wash those dishes in the sink because it grinds like gears, boys, that about you? There's plates and cutlery in the sink. Gotta get them clean. Get them out of the sink, put the put the wet cutlery and dishes on to the side. Put the the calorie in the dishes that were already drying on the side, away in the cupboards, out of sight, out of mind.
00:21:59:06 – 00:22:29:22
Guys, you got a dishwasher as well, obviously. So, you know, to be honest, any dirty plates? Okay. Put them in the dishwasher so they're all put away. Lovely job. Well done. Two minutes later, my missus will go in the kitchen and put it a dirty plate back into the sink. It absolutely kills me. Honest to God, I don't understand the mentality and people need to help me with this.
00:22:30:00 – 00:22:59:09
But why people can't when they finish your plates? Well, there's the kids, whoever it might be. You know, put it straight in the dishwasher. I'll sight out of mind, but know what happens? Plates. It can be one plate, whatever it might be, it absolutely kills me. Anyway, that's my story. That's. Cheers.
00:22:59:11 – 00:23:17:13
So I understand what you're saying, but you need. Why not? If the. If it's all if if everything's washed up, white and I've washed it up. Why is that now another dirty plate in there. You can see it's been washed up. Do you bit? Just wash up. But ain't the way your mind works because I'm guilty of it as well.
00:23:17:15 – 00:23:38:09
Washing up is done in batches. It's not done sporadically for you today. All right, okay, I say, I say because I know you're, you're, a hand washer. We don't have a we don't have a, we don't have a we don't have one of the best things about moving into this new house whenever we eventually get in there.
00:23:38:10 – 00:24:01:02
15 years. Well, yeah, we'll have a dishwasher, I think, but I don't know how often I'll use it. So my dad is a stickler, Rick. He won't use the dishwasher. He bought it and it plugged in even. Yeah, yeah, he would wash everything up by hand rather than using the dishwasher. Oh my God, what is it? Because he doesn't know how to use it?
00:24:01:04 – 00:24:18:02
No, I don't know what he just says. Don't it don't bother me. Don't bother me. I'm like, I know it doesn't bother you, but is there it doesn't bother you that you have the. There's actually. You know what? He's a bit weird like that. You won't put the satnav off on if he knows where to go. If we get there, it can predict where the traffic jams are.
00:24:18:08 – 00:24:36:04
That's not interesting to him. If he knows where to go, he won't put the satnav on. And I'm like, all right, I will be gone wherever I go. Put the satnav on it, wherever I go, because it shows me the quickest way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you won't do that. And even if the worst one is when I've got it on and it's showing me.
00:24:36:04 – 00:24:54:02
How do you get so often? We'll go to bath, going shopping or I will coffee. However I'll put a sign off on to bath and it take. There's about six different ways you can get into bath right. Massive. It's a city right? Yeah. And he'll go, go this way. And I'm like yeah, but this study's saying go this way.
00:24:54:04 – 00:25:15:23
It's going to take 38 minutes. It usually takes 45 minutes. Now I know the way to bath. We all know the ways bath. This is a piece of technology that can do something that your brain can't. I don't know what's up with him. My message is that this time. Well, that will do a, he'll do satnav to somewhere, I mean, I it feels different.
00:25:15:23 – 00:25:34:04
I'm like, look, it's literally telling you, look at the screen, it's telling you where to go. And she ends up going the wrong way because she doesn't believe this right now. So how can you not like it's literally telling you where to go? Yeah. It's crazy. SatNav is one of the greatest inventions ever. Like, oh, I think it goes penicillin.
00:25:34:06 – 00:25:52:00
Internet satnav. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure, for sure. We should do. I think we should do an episode on Into the internet. We? No. We ever done one on just the internet? No, I don't think we have a good. Or is it bad?
00:25:52:02 – 00:26:12:04
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh. Okay. Right. I see. Where you going with this. Yeah yeah yeah. But I'm going to put that in the and then that's it as a question for people out there for this, for that episode was the most mental thing you've ever done on in that. Oh fuck yeah. Now. Yeah. All that is I've been on the dark web.
00:26:12:04 – 00:26:18:14
I've moved about. It's a hit. Yeah, it's about drugs and that. Yeah.
00:26:18:16 – 00:26:44:09
Drugs and guns. But the the the sorry, the the washing up blood, it was just the, the in his voice and I could just feel his pain just for his voice and how exciting it allows the slap me a is really it's really feeling about that. And more often than not, when the family finish their dinner and we go out, we put the plates on the side and we go back in where we fill up.
00:26:44:09 – 00:27:07:17
We satisfied. We're a bit tired now. We're all copped up. No one's washing after dinner. Yeah. And then my Mrs. will just come into the kitchen and start having a go at everyone, because we've not scraped dinner into the bin and stuff like that, but right after dinner. Right after dinner straight away now. Well, that's Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the most relaxed person I've ever met.
00:27:07:19 – 00:27:33:06
She is the one for the like, this gentleman was saying more of, you know, empty sides, empty mind. She cannot wait till she can't rest. Sorry if the kitchen side isn't wiped down and cleaned like everything has to go in the dishwasher or hand wash, whatever. She doesn't fucking care. But it needs to be out of them, out of her sight.
00:27:33:08 – 00:27:57:00
And I'm one of those people that are. I will absolutely do it, babe. I will do the dishes. I'll empty the dishwasher and I'll reload it when in my own time. I live in that space. Right? When? Yeah, but when I. When, you send me to do it now, I'll do it in 45 minutes because I need to do some work stuff or I need to finish this episode.
00:27:57:00 – 00:28:13:00
Oh, let me just have this become like a hill for you to die on. Yeah, it kind of is. Now, you could do it now and then do your work after. It's nothing too pressing. Yeah, but it's a principle. Yeah, it's the principle. And when you when you've started something, you kind of get into a flow in there.
00:28:13:02 – 00:28:33:01
Yeah. But you can get into the flow. It's the flow in the washing up and then get into a flow to work. You're choosing what you want to do. It's the principle thing, Rick. That's what it is. Yeah. It's about you versus your wife thing. Yeah yeah yeah. Right. You know break these things down right. No, no I you gotta do two things.
00:28:33:02 – 00:28:55:21
Do the washing up, put a name on the mortgage. Well, why me fucking keep cutting me for this? That's not happening. Not me. See the movie? Okay? Not in the movie. I know I was winning, I was winning, and now you said it. I'm. No, no, this is travel. You could have added. Oh, and now you could have had it, rolling in the deep.
00:28:55:21 – 00:29:23:09
And, we should probably talk about, today's, topic. We're a bit bit late for that. Oh, shit. 30 minutes in. I know, I know, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter the thing. Oh, like, we've had quite a few people email in over the past year because they don't know what we say, the words we use and the phrases and things like that.
00:29:23:09 – 00:29:51:13
So I thought I would, you know, just have a little bit of a chat about the British language and our different sayings. Now there's and I've seen a huge amount of people on TikTok where they are Americans that are living in the UK. Yeah. And they don't understand some of our sayings. And I think I've always thought so.
00:29:51:13 – 00:30:12:07
There's, there's a couple of things like throw a spanner in the works. Yeah. That's, that's a, that's, that's one way that, that makes no sense. It doesn't know. It doesn't know. What do you know? One that doesn't make any sense. But everyone knows what it means. Look, a gift horse in the mouth. What the fuck does that mean?
00:30:12:09 – 00:30:33:04
I know what it means. Why does it mean that I don't know, looking a gift horse in the mouth? Find it. What? What? Look at. There's no such thing as a gift horse. And what would looking in its mouth mean to anybody? I've got 30, probably 30 different sayings and words in a list here of what people say.
00:30:33:08 – 00:30:50:23
That wasn't on there, but that was fucking perfect. Yeah, well why not? What's it mean? I don't know, sleeping. I don't even I, you know what's going on. I was the second I was going to Google it to find out where it come from. And I'm not going to is most important because these days. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure for sure.
00:30:51:00 – 00:31:15:01
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We'll be there for you. And then you can simply remove the podcast off TV. Listen. No drama. Enjoy the rest of the show, lads. Do you get like. Like I just mentioned about the, the TikTokers from America on the here? They're journaling their experiences of UK culture. Yeah, yeah, I like that. So when when you hear of Americans obviously in America and they've just come to they've been in Britain, do you get offended by the accents that they I, I've now like talking about that.
00:32:27:15 – 00:32:46:08
I like the ones are they're really good. There's go on there and you're like she sounds English because it's me doing an American accent to an American person to you is going to sound like it's an accent. That's. It sounds like I'm talking in an American accent. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. In America, they're going to go see what you're doing, but it doesn't really sound like us.
00:32:46:10 – 00:33:05:23
The people that put on a posh English accent and that's that's not what we sound like, right? Yeah. There was this girl. I can't remember her name. She is incredible. She starts speaking. It's like she could easily be from London and she's just. I don't know what her name is. I should have found it, but she's. And that's really impressive to me.
00:33:05:23 – 00:33:33:02
Does she. Does she talk in a kind of, rude girl? And try that kind of old English like. No, it's not. It's normal. It's like how my. It's like if someone grew up in London, but isn't. It doesn't have that kind of road man accent, but these are cockney. Isn't a cockney ever. It just someone is from London.
00:33:33:02 – 00:34:00:16
If she's just nailed it, she's found someone who just nailed it. That's that's what it is. I try and find it before we finish talking. The, So I like when I hear people impersonating or trying to do a British accent. I fucking love it. I absolutely love it because I don't know, like, I, I'm very different in the way that I show how proud I am to be British.
00:34:00:17 – 00:34:26:14
And one of the things is how we speak the phrases we use, our language. And even if it's just that clichéd old idea and, guv'nor, I fucking love that. That is us. Like anywhere I go. And I'm chatting to people and I hear those, types of phrases, like one of them that I've seen quite a lot taking the Mickey.
00:34:26:14 – 00:34:50:14
Oh, he's taking the Mickey I like. Americans don't know what that is. Yeah, and I can sense another thing, like, why are you taking them taking it account. And they have no idea what that is. And I just love those types of things that we use every day where we obviously we we take it for granted because it's part of our everyday speak.
00:34:50:14 – 00:35:19:02
But other people looking in about what the fucking hell are they going on about that I have no idea. The one that when they go a bottle of a bottle of water, a bottle of oil and I go, baba, baba bottle and anything you listen to me that about. That's exactly what we sound like. Yeah, yeah, I, I sent that made to my missus and she literally she was uncontrollably belly laughing because that's exactly what we sound like.
00:35:19:04 – 00:35:50:23
What is it that goes outside? We get a bottle of you say, no, no, no, that's American guys. But every American should be a bottle, a bottle of wine. Let's get a bottle. And they cry and laugh there anyway. So it's one, it's those types of things that I absolutely love about being British now I think I so we've spoken about, specific tick tock is that there's a gentleman that I sent you.
00:35:51:00 – 00:36:15:15
I've, And if you could play his audio, but one of the three of them says it. Do me a ding, is it? Has he done that? It was it right. Come on in. Do me a ding. Let's go with that one. We're just words I've heard by the Bruce public. Part four cream cracker. Bro. I first heard this by a British presenter on TV and they were talking about cream crackers.
00:36:15:17 – 00:36:32:02
I don't even want to know. I might have gone through to guess, but Cream Cracker is next up doing my head. And I was like, do my head. And that must be like pissing you all for like angering you, I guess. I don't know if I'm saying this right foot handed. I was walking and he's local builders. Next to me was like, oh, make your whole cack handed.
00:36:32:08 – 00:36:49:18
I'm taking a wild guess. It must mean, like, Carrie want this or cock out or something like that. Really? I don't think I've even heard the word cack in my life yet. They hate what they probably broke. And when they sign the part, they announce the next one is the most funniest one. Someone was sprawled on my couch with a little too much liquid courage and someone goes on mate.
00:36:49:18 – 00:37:04:20
She's paralytic. Paralytic, bro. I don't want to get cancer cause I don't know if that's a bad word and I should be saying this, but I thought paralytic was something medical. I thought it meant being paralyzed. But apparently in the UK, that means you've had a little too much to drink. Creativity for these words are the all time high.
00:37:04:22 – 00:37:20:08
Last but not least, budge up. I was on the tube not paying attention, and new people were getting on the tube and the woman goes budge up. I was like, I thought you said bowls and I was like, bowled up because she's like, no budget, mate. And like, I learned the hard way that budget means screwed up, apparently, I don't know.
00:37:20:10 – 00:37:44:09
Yeah. Parrot paralytic is a it's like, is it offensive? So paralytic. It means that your arms and legs properly and. Well, yeah, I mean it's see, this is, this is another thing to draw a line, to deaf blind people, a paraplegic. Yeah. No, I don't think you can. You can willfully and get away with taking the piss out of paraplegics.
00:37:44:15 – 00:38:11:07
No, not out of them. But, I mean, using that kind of, I suppose. Yeah. It's a little bit different now. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. But those words like how how he's interpreted dies and I don't know, it's just I love the, the magic of it. And there are, there are other words here. Let me just, go through a couple with you.
00:38:11:09 – 00:38:38:15
It's gone. It's gone pear shaped. Yep. Or Pete Tong. Yeah. Someone's gone wrong. Yeah, yeah. Donkey's years. For ages. For a long time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this one, actually. Old guy with this, a botched job. That sounds from messed up. Yeah. Throwing a wobbly, not just getting angry. Why you find a wobbly for. Yeah.
00:38:38:17 – 00:38:42:23
I actually had a right wobbly.
00:38:43:01 – 00:39:11:09
Old mouth. No trousers. Yeah. Someone he can a, He's a man of little action. Yeah. That's right. Knees up, having a drink party. I have a little dance. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, like, with a lot of these, we also had, an email in from a gentleman. I'm not going to read it all out, but he was saying that the word geezer.
00:39:11:09 – 00:39:40:18
Now, the word geezer in Canada is they know of it, but it's of just a really old person and old annoying person. Oh, so, so when we use it here and it's like Londoners or football Joe, this geezer came up to the them trying to compute. It was like, what the fuck is that? He's in. Yet again, the geezer is more like a bloke, a chap, a lad.
00:39:40:20 – 00:39:57:02
Someone who's a little bit tasty. Could be a bit of a geezer. He just fancies himself a little bit. But it isn't. It's not a negative word. It's a it's a kind of neutral. What would you. What? Just had a neutral positive. Yeah. He's a baby geezer. It's like saying he's a bit tasty. It's kind of meat.
00:39:57:04 – 00:40:18:14
It's sort of neutral. Positive. I would, I would say. Yeah, I love the word geezer. Yeah. I like, if someone said to me I'm a geezer, I'd be like, oh, thank you. Yeah, baby geezer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like to drink lots of smoke is a little bit, a little bit. Oh they're dying out gazes. That's the thing.
00:40:18:16 – 00:40:40:15
That's the problem. Yeah. Kids don't really know what geezer is. They don't behave like geezers anymore. It's a shame. Do you know what Americans use? I don't know why, but they use it wrong all the time. And it's quite a simple thing, right? But I understand where they're coming from, why their brain works. This is the word, mate.
00:40:40:17 – 00:41:02:01
And if there's more than one of you, they say mates. That's not right. No, I'll buy you in the and you mates. And so if they're referring to the podcast they'll go hi mates. No you can't if you, if it's more than one you don't use the word mate. You have two lads. That's fine. Yeah, yeah but mate so you can so on by you mate some.
00:41:02:06 – 00:41:22:10
Nah you can't do that. You start and it doesn't that make sense. So it makes complete sense but you can't it. If you said that in a pub over here, they'd look at you like you were odd. Yeah. It's it's the, the, the new I, mate. I like that I, mate.
00:41:22:12 – 00:41:41:23
Now you're saying that I. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree. It's one of those things like where in pints they do that as well. They say points in plural. They say let's go for pints. You don't. They don't say that. I want to buy you like some pints. It's possible I'll buy you a pint, even if you want to buy them 50 points in a night.
00:41:42:01 – 00:42:00:12
It's just. I'll buy you a pint to find some time for a pint even. You know. You know you're going to go for many pints. You don't use pints, you use pint. That's it. Let's go for a pint. You could be there all day. You still just going for a pint? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. You're right.
00:42:00:13 – 00:42:28:22
Now you're saying that I kind of, I know that instances where they've happen. Yeah, I am so like what I signed for with the like these languages and slang. This is what this is part of being what part of being British and what is our sayings and our language. That's what makes me proud to be British. Not like a Saint Georges flag, not fucking the royal family.
00:42:28:22 – 00:43:04:07
It's this stuff. And when people, impersonate it or put it into their local speak, that makes me feel proud because it's. That's what I think of, of Britain. All these different words. And people just have no idea about where they come from. I don't know where they fucking come from. A lot of it. It's just it's just stuff that you hear from passed down from your dads or uncles or whoever it might be that you're knocking about with.
00:43:04:09 – 00:43:24:21
Now, before we finish this bit up, there is one last, clip that I want you to play on. Actually, there is that. There is, let's go with. Right. Come on then. Come on in.
00:43:24:23 – 00:43:41:00
A phrase that I feel like I hear Brits say all the time that I don't think we really ever said in America is come on then. Or even better, adding right to that. So. Right. Come on then. Like it's always said in that like voice, like, come on then. It's always like, it's always sounds like that. Like I obviously get what it means.
00:43:41:00 – 00:44:01:05
But if it's you want to explain, like where this came from and why you say it so much, that'd be great that he's wrong. He's right in coming in. But you can use that. It means several things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how you see the my immediate thought when he, when I read come on then that means you're let's have a fight.
00:44:01:07 – 00:44:19:19
Yeah. Right. Come in, come in, come on, come on then. Come on then. Let's have it. Come on then. You want some? Come on then, come on then. But you also say coming in if you're going to go down the pub. Come on, let's go. Come on then. Yeah. Oh come on, let's go school. Like if you can't get some kids coming in.
00:44:19:21 – 00:44:42:22
Yeah. That means a couple of things, really. I like, I do like how we use. Right. Let's go. Right. Come on then. Right. Why is that right? Always there. Right. It's like a punctuation, isn't it? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is it. You need to listen to this, right? Right. Often they can come. Love that. And to finish up because it just makes me laugh.
00:44:43:02 – 00:45:01:16
Was that third one of how has he done that then. And this is British culture before. I'm a big fan of white people slang. There's many of these phrases that I could just list until you know about, but one of the best ones I for nice You was a good one. One of the best ones. How's he done?
00:45:01:16 – 00:45:20:07
Not that. Oh, I way that is quickly. Oh I see no not that bro. You know the best scenario that you see this in you'll be on Tik Tok I don't know guys. He's popped out with his goal and he's obviously punching. Just go in the comments. Guys are saying how he done that dude. Oh man is that one is versatile.
00:45:20:07 – 00:45:45:12
Oh my days they can go with anything bro. Anything. That one guy that doesn't normally do good in an exam, he comes out with good grades. The man I was, you know, nothin. Oh, yo, somebody cooked him and somebody good. Yeah, it gets nice. We, we're I think we're we're we're undefeated with that. That is, I absolutely love that stuff.
00:45:45:18 – 00:46:14:15
Especially when it's shown to you like that a lot. I love it before I forget, right before we move on, there was a podcast, all of the stuff, some of the things. And it's two brothers who interview bands, comedians and artists. You can follow them at stuff and things on the school pot, and they had seen our question about beans on toast.
00:46:14:17 – 00:46:34:03
Yeah. And they featured it in their podcast when they were interviewing a local band, sorta. And they cooked up and they sent out, which was really, really, really, really nice. One of them, one of the answers was like it was obviously asking them, do they put a whole can on half a can? How many slices of toast?
00:46:34:03 – 00:46:53:18
All of that stuff. What we discussed, there's some mental answers I thought they had what one of them was, he said four. But then what he meant was he cut two slices of bread in half. So you've got four triangles and then beans in the middle, and they're like, but that's, that's not beans on toast, that's beans in the middle of your size.
00:46:53:20 – 00:47:14:15
Oh. So he thought he's not putting too tight. Oh no. No I'd be totally. Yeah yeah yeah that's wild. Yeah. One of they didn't. One of them say they put three quarters of a tin on and then probably just chop the rest of it away. That's why they just put it all on. And and then the other thing that it does is, one of the demands of those six slices of toast.
00:47:14:21 – 00:47:41:15
Is that right before four slices, maybe four slice excessive. That to me that was like, that's 500 calories. Yeah. That's mad. And then, because I was listening to their pod and, you know, I don't know these, but this, I don't want to one of them out them off. But I did hear on their pod that one of them went out for a lot.
00:47:41:20 – 00:48:02:15
It was either a lads night or a football coaches night or something like that. Yeah. What's the local carry out? And one of them doesn't like carry, so he, ask them to put a steak on for you. That sort of looks like you can't do that. No, just like the. Charlie. Can you stick a roast dinner on for me, please?
00:48:02:17 – 00:48:24:04
No. You can't. I was just thinking there was laughter, you know, that they would have a steak. I don't know, I, I don't think I've ever been to. Is there being a curry? And they've had, like, a steak on the mistake on the menu, but they may have beef. Is there a beef that I really. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
00:48:24:05 – 00:48:46:02
That's normal. Yeah yeah yeah yeah it is I think I think I don't know, I think it's I don't go, I mean, maybe wants to be partial, but what I can sure like there's nothing you can have a korma that's like coconut. It just takes a bit like coconut. Surely you can get that down you rather than having a steak.
00:48:46:04 – 00:49:10:06
Oh, I would just go with Pop Adams, onion barges, bit of rice, bit of. Yeah. Can I, can I say something that might be a bit controversial? Is Curry overrated? Like the what I'm talking about when I say curry, I'm talking about the selection of standard curries you can get from a curry house, which is korma, jalfrezi, chicken tikka masala, all the standard English curry.
00:49:10:11 – 00:49:30:00
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are over it. It's none of them. You just go. That was banging. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm going to the wrong places. But the best curries I've had are the ones that have much more traditional Indian cooking. Like, there's some really lovely curry houses in Marylebone and obviously the money around the area, I'd expect them, but they're not.
00:49:30:04 – 00:49:52:19
You're going for traditional Indian food there. The difference is, is incredible. You never want to eat one like fucking bowl of slop ever again. Yeah, I am gonna I got this one. I'll keep it. A curry is the very bottom of my takeaway. If, if, if I'm going out to eat or I get in a takeaway, it's at the very bottom.
00:49:52:19 – 00:50:26:05
And that is because that obviously my grandparents, I fucking knew their way around a curry. Yeah. And and eating that in comparison to what I would get on, you know, your local high street of sweetener, preservatives, the color of it. And it's it's totally different. It is genuinely it is like a different meal altogether. Different cuisine is so far from what a traditional curry tastes like.
00:50:26:07 – 00:50:43:13
So that's why I would never there are actually there is a, there is a what you call it, an Indian restaurant close to where I live. And someone said it really, really good, very traditional. And I went there and it is fucking banging. It is like what my nan would have made. Yeah, but you can't find them.
00:50:43:13 – 00:51:03:05
But yeah, I know I don't think that is an outrageous thing to say, but part of the again, like the British culture is going out for a curry and everyone end of a night should go get curry boys. Yeah. And I, I've never done that. You know, I've been out on a person and then ended up at Curry House in my life.
00:51:03:07 – 00:51:18:12
I've gone full bean paste up and then ended up going to curry. When I used to live in Crouch had me and Ross would do that quite a lot. Yeah, but not at the end of the night at like one in the morning or 12 or 11 at night. No, I've never done that. I don't know where to go.
00:51:18:14 – 00:51:39:08
I would normally meet up there, might have a curry and then go out on the piss, but it's not like you were. I was just about to bring that up. All you want about. Yeah, I know, I think we've had this discussion before and I like it's it's a one sided. No, you're right, you're right. I'm not. If I'm, if you're inviting me to go out and have a curry, I'm going home afterwards.
00:51:39:08 – 00:51:55:06
I'm not going out on going to the pub and the boy. How many points do you think I can fit in me now? How many points, G. How much? How many points would it take to get me pissed? I mean, just eat, fill myself up. Black curry. Who is it? Who is your mate? Let's expose him. So, he's the one that recommends it.
00:51:55:08 – 00:52:16:03
And Johnny. Johnny at Will and Kenny go out and. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. You can, yeah, you can. Look, I know, I don't know. Go to bed. I want to have a curry. Go to bed. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, totally. And the thing is, is what? You're drinking beer throughout, eating your curry, and then you're so full up and it's not right.
00:52:16:03 – 00:52:33:01
Let's go and hit a pub and let's get levied. I'm like, I couldn't fit another thing in me. I really couldn't fit another thing in me. Like, it's like, I totally get where you're, We went, we we had Lee's Lee stag do.
00:52:33:03 – 00:52:39:02
We've lost. It's, delayed again.
00:52:39:04 – 00:53:00:16
Right? So I'd use the old right there. We are going to go into dilemmas and something and, you know, dilemma is called Heartbreak Hotel. Something only you know is I lost a bet. But before that, the topic for next week. Now, I know you're going to absolutely love this, but I, I just want to have a chat with a mate about this.
00:53:00:16 – 00:53:27:17
And I thought, I'm just going to we'll hit recording when we do it. Toxic masculinity. I know for me I want to be obviously a better person. I want to be a better man for my daughters. I want to set a good example. I don't quite really know what it means, and I'm a bit lost as to what it means and what I should be doing and what I shouldn't be doing.
00:53:27:17 – 00:53:50:23
Now, this has been brought about because two things really, the the, the latest film by Danny Dyer, Marching Powder, and he mentions about that the film is a bit about toxic masculinity. And then I could see people in the comments saying, that's not toxic masculinity. And I was a bit like, that's a bit weird. Like, so what is it?
00:53:51:00 – 00:54:26:01
In other things, I've seen people saying that's a bit toxic masculinity, that they've put this bit of content out, people in the comments saying toxic masculinity doesn't exist, it's just masculinity. With the ongoing of, the kind of they're calling it the bro movement of Trump, Musk, the tights, and the in America, there's only two sexes, these types of things of the toxic masculinity conversation.
00:54:26:03 – 00:54:52:01
I'm a bit lost as a 42 year old man who wants to be better and have a better understanding about it, so I want to have a chat with you about it. So I will do that. So if you've got any questions around toxic masculinity or any thoughts, please send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out on the pod.
00:54:52:03 – 00:55:23:18
Now this is dilemmas. Oh, this time you got an issue for a tissue. Your paycheck. At least you ain't making Ingersoll alone in your flat. Please talk to Ricky. Flat head. Let the stress of your chest. What? No friends in the family play like you're fighting to get lost. The war between Ricky online.
00:55:23:20 – 00:55:47:15
Heartbreak hotel. Unfortunately, this isn't a funny or entertaining story. I'll keep it short and sweet. I'm 19, and my girlfriend and I, who had been with, who I'd been with since I was 16, have just broken up and I have no idea how to deal with it. Me and my family have never opened up to each other about things, so I'm struggling to ask them for any advice.
00:55:47:17 – 00:56:09:03
So I thought I'd write in and hope to get a reply. I'm not sure whether to take my mind the things by keeping myself busy, or just face that emotions and feelings that are coming my way. This might all sound silly. It really silly to you guys, but I'm struggling so much and I'm not sure what I'll do without her.
00:56:09:05 – 00:56:33:23
She was my everything. And I also heard that even people in their 40s and 50s said that they never get over their first love. This is all just really scary and new to me and I'm not sure how to cope. I understand if you don't want to read this one out on the pod, as it's quite low and sad, but even an email back or DM would mean so much to me.
00:56:34:01 – 00:56:41:17
First of all, the email and the minute really? Well, I mean there is that but reason why it's been read out.
00:56:41:19 – 00:57:02:05
I know what you're like. You have to reply to everything. No, no I don't honestly I, I try to, but I talk. Yeah it's just hard work. Get a proper start. Thank you know well I was obviously I was going to queued up but you've because you've gone straight in there ten days. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Take your mind off things by getting the process.
00:57:02:07 – 00:57:20:15
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. If you got the money. Yeah. Just a couple. He's looking at the money. That 19 is he? No he's not. Well let's imagine prices are off the table for this one. Yeah. Okay. Or like there must be like kind of a nifty 50 hand up. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Something like that.
00:57:20:17 – 00:57:42:18
Like if you find the local bins in your area. Yeah. Hang around there long enough. It might be a bloke that does it. Ahead of time. Drop it. Close your eyes. It's just a hand. Get what you give given or the age old. One bit of a cliche. Use your left hand then. And then if you. If you use your imagination as well, it could be someone else doing it.
00:57:42:20 – 00:58:07:12
Yeah. Or sit on your hands for long enough so they get numb and it feels like someone else is doing it to someone else. Yeah, and you can paint your nails as well. And that all it all plays to the, Just got to use your mind, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wonderful instrument.
00:58:07:14 – 00:58:33:13
It's it's a really hard one, man. It's all good for you because you fucking met your bird when you were 11. No no no no no. So me and my missus split up, and I went. Exactly. I went for the exact same thing, and I. I remember being so, like, absolutely heartbroken. Like proper crying snot coming out my nose, that that fucking convulsive crying.
00:58:33:13 – 00:58:56:19
When, when we met you, were you together then? No, no. So that was just so we've had two breaks. So when I, when we, when I moved to London, we were in this space where I was always saying, I'm going to move to London, I'm going to move to London. And it was like, no, you know, you keep saying this.
00:58:57:00 – 00:59:30:15
And then in the end I did move to London. So in your face you did that. And then you came down with me. So, hey, he wins again. Yeah. But when we first broke up, when I was maybe around the same age, actually, because we got together when I was 16. And is that 18, 19, 20? Well, I was putting all my focus on my mates, and I had that huge fear of missing out every Friday, Saturday, Sunday, going up to your local Yates's, Wetherspoons, local nightclubs.
00:59:30:17 – 00:59:48:22
And as always, I wanted to do what my mates were doing and I didn't want to miss out on the shenanigans of the night. And when people regale the stories and I didn't want to be not involved in that. So my missus was always the last bit. So if no one was doing anything, I'd be like, oh, should we meet up tonight?
00:59:48:22 – 01:00:10:11
And obviously that's not how you should be in a relationship. And then we broke up and I was, you know, I was devastated. The best bit of advice now I was going back to my missus all the time, text in, messaging, fucking all of that, getting in her face and saying, I want you back. What do I need to do?
01:00:10:11 – 01:00:37:15
All this stuff? And one of her mates actually turned round to me and said, just give her time. Just give a space. Like she just needs to reassess what she wants to do. And and I was like, yeah, but I want to. And they're like, you're literally just making it work. You're pushing her away further and further by your, persistence of what would you ring her up hoping it's what, beg for a back?
01:00:37:16 – 01:00:51:08
Is that what you do? No, no, no, not beg for it back. It was just ringing up to see how she was and all that. Lauren, do you want to meet up for a drink now, I think, well, why not? I'll come on. And you give me off. I'll. I'll drive around. You're like that kind of thing. Yeah.
01:00:51:08 – 01:01:14:09
Always kind of like trying to see how she was. But really, there was a booby trap of. Let's go out for dinner, let's go for a beer, let's do whatever. And it wasn't going to fly. So I just said to her in one last conversation, like, I love you. All these things. I know what I did wrong or improve, but I'm just going to leave it here now.
01:01:14:09 – 01:01:44:06
And you can just do whatever you want and you know where I am if you need me. So I let her do whatever and kind of collect her thoughts. However, and obviously we're back together. And I always remember my a people grow apart, but then they grow back together again. And sometimes you'll be in a relationship, you split up and you'll go your separate ways and that will be it.
01:01:44:06 – 01:02:07:06
You'll continue to grow, you separate, you won't get back together and you'll find someone else, and it'll be totally different. And you look back in your life and you think that's why that happens. Okay. No. At the time when you're in the thick of it, you don't see that, but then other times that you will bump it like I would randomly because we lived in a small town, Milton Keynes, we'd all go out on a Friday.
01:02:07:06 – 01:02:29:18
Saturday night I'd be with my mates and then lo and behold, I wreck. Yeah, don't. It's just walked in, for fuck's sake. What would you say? Fuck! Fuck's sake. She didn't want to see her already. Yeah, didn't want to see it. My awkwardness and I would be pissed. And I'd be like, what would you do? Trying. Trying to, talk to her.
01:02:29:21 – 01:02:44:08
Oh, you try and talk to her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think one day I didn't want to date. I just wanted to be out my mates and to be fucking around, I think. But you felt like you had to chat. Or you wanted to because you pissed up. Probably a little bit geared up. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:02:44:10 – 01:03:04:09
Well, it was more I think that was prior to the dabbling. So it's, so it was more of just the kind of, it's like she was a specter in the room, and I couldn't I get it. I couldn't carry on with what I wanted to do, like being a dick with my mates because she was there, I don't know, she was there.
01:03:04:09 – 01:03:25:15
And I also met so many places you could go, right? Oh, yeah. Like literally a handful. Yeah, a handful, but then those kind of coincidental bumping into each other, the conversations would start, hey dude, what's going on? Blah blah blah, blah blah. And then maybe it would be like, oh, like we could meet up or, you know, and then we kind of got back together.
01:03:25:19 – 01:03:52:06
Yeah. I guess what I'm saying is that it is really painful right now, and you are in the thick of the weeds of it, and you will have all these feelings and trust me, like you can you can bury these feelings through smoking weed, drinking, whatever. But you are far better off dealing with this shit now. Do not let it bottle up.
01:03:52:07 – 01:04:17:02
Yeah, deal with it now. Feel it, feel it right. Yeah. Write down. Write down what you're feeling. Just kind of like. Just sit and hold what you're feeling at the moment. And it's fine. Mam is fine. That's good advice. As long as you kind of, like, sit with it and know know exactly what it is, get it out on the page so you know what it is so you can deal with it.
01:04:17:04 – 01:04:39:22
And then maybe as the weeks go by, in the months that there might be a chance bumping into each other or a a WhatsApp message come through from from her, what you're doing, what's happening, you just never know. But you can't. It's it is. It's a painful one if you've got, Yeah. I mean, it's slightly different in that like that.
01:04:39:23 – 01:05:03:07
That important thing is like feeling it. Allow yourself to feel it. It fucking sucks. That means it meant something and that's important. And then and don't listen to the experiences of other people too much because everybody's is different, right? Yeah. For every person who says there's that one love that got away and you never forget, there's tons of people.
01:05:03:07 – 01:05:24:10
Like in my experience, where that isn't the case. I don't ever think about my first love and go, I wish I was back. You not ever, never once crosses my mind, so that doesn't mean it should be that for you. Although it may be right, you might be think right. I love her and and you'll always hold that love as even as you get older, that might still be the case.
01:05:24:10 – 01:05:44:02
But what you'll be remembering as you get older is the very best parts of it all. And probably what you're looking at now is the best parts of relationship and thinking, that's what I want. But I guarantee you, I guarantee you this. There would have been moments as you grew together if you don't get back together, but as you grew together where you would have wanted to experience other things.
01:05:44:02 – 01:06:01:21
I don't just mean having sex with other people, I'm just mean. I mean, do you need to experience other people in my in my what I went through and what I, how I've grown up, my relationships I've had. It's important to experience.
01:06:01:23 – 01:06:29:05
Other people. And that may be sex, but it may be environments or experiences or groups of people, to get to a point where you, you know what you want. And that might seem like it's like a 19 year old kid. This is your first love. It feels like the world's crumbling down. But honestly, it isn't that what you feel now.
01:06:29:07 – 01:06:50:05
You won't feel in a year. It won't feel it in six months. And what Rick said about feeling it like with anything you're supposed to feel, things you're supposed to feel pain, you're supposed to feel loss. Everyone. But as they go through life will experience harrowing things that they have to deal with. It's a part of being alive.
01:06:50:06 – 01:07:18:01
You know. You have no right to feel happy. You have a right to strive for happiness. That's what you need, and that's what you have as well. We all have. If you're lucky enough to live in a Western society and many areas of the world in fact, where your prime game, your prime goal is to seek happiness. If you're lucky enough to have food, have heat, have warmth, you know, and enough money to feed yourself and whatnot, then the pursuit of happiness is all.
01:07:18:01 – 01:07:47:07
That's all that's necessary, right? So if you have that, you have to just go through these processes of feeling horrendous things like losing someone you love or her deciding she doesn't love you anymore in that way. So just go through it, experience it, understand it, and choose how you move forward. And that's the most important thing because some people will just sit with something and woe is me, the world is terrible.
01:07:47:07 – 01:08:01:16
How could this happen to me? Why does she love me? She thought if she doesn't, she doesn't. So you how do you react to that? That's the most important thing. Eventually, once you've done all you feel in, you've done all you cry and get it all out the way. Throw your eyes out if you have to ring your mum, all that stuff.
01:08:01:16 – 01:08:19:09
But eventually you have to go, right? What do I do next? And that's an important conversation you have to have for yourself because you choose, in effect, you choose how you let things affect you, no matter how terrible they are. Eventually you have to make a decision is right. Is this going to kill me? Am I going to stop living?
01:08:19:09 – 01:08:36:19
Am I going to just dwell in it? Or am I going to go and live a little bit? Am I going to go and do something that makes my life better, better, and the best way to attract someone you've lost and if you want them back, and if that's what the goal is. And you may never get that goal, by the way.
01:08:37:00 – 01:09:10:21
But if that's what your goal is, is improve yourself. So there's nothing more attractive than someone who's improving themselves constantly. Someone who's ball away news eating cake, who's getting fat, just sitting there crying his eyes out every, every two minutes. That isn't attractive. That's not going to get her coming back. But going down the gym, eating properly, getting you sleeping, socializing, having good time, your mates that's attractive leave you from her or your next girlfriend.
01:09:10:23 – 01:09:21:04
That is. That's some good advice. I think that's probably the best advice that we've ever given up. So well done for both of us. We are now.
01:09:21:05 – 01:09:48:04
Well, now going to be. Maybe we don't say something. Only you know why. Something ugly. You know, I lost a bet back in my single days. I got talking to a girl on Tinder. She was blond, sexy, and talks a good game, too. We went on a date and she told me she had a clip pierced. Obviously, this piqued my interest even more.
01:09:48:06 – 01:10:16:16
She told me that she'd love to meet up, like with a genital piercing, so she could see how it felt. There was lots of sexual tension throughout the day, but it only ended with a kiss and we went our separate ways. The next day I went to Camden and got my dick pierced. Oh my lord, a Prince Albert texting had been constant between the girl and me, and we were both keen on a second date.
01:10:16:18 – 01:10:34:12
I was going to tell her I'm going to tell her the news face to face, but I couldn't wait. She said something like, I can't believe you went and done that. Long story short, we never actually saw each other again. I know my mates believe I lost a bet at uni.
01:10:34:14 – 01:10:55:04
I was a bell. How can you not see her again? Mate, you'd be like, mate, I've got coming this weekend. You don't want to see each other now. I've got. I've got this. So. But is it one of them things, like you've gone to the lengths of having your cock pierced, but that life's got in the way.
01:10:55:04 – 01:11:12:15
I can't do this weekend. I got the ocean swimming or. You know what I mean? I've got. I've gone out with a business. We've got boys this weekend. You've got your cock. How's that not happened? So you're still in? Yeah, that's what I want to know. The person who sent this in. Can you please let us know?
01:11:12:15 – 01:11:38:17
And this. This would be a recent submission, so I know that you are listening. If you. And also, I haven't really seen a Prince Albert. Did I, like, go for you, Bella? I don't know, I know came about it I think. Yeah. Down the hole. Does it. Yeah. Yeah I think the hoop goes through the hole. But then it must come out through the top of the balance in the history.
01:11:38:19 – 01:12:02:13
Is it. Yeah. I mean I'm all for people, you know, do what you want, but yeah, I don't want that. I never, know that. I mean, I couldn't think of anything like, as well, like, this lady in this story had a clit pierce, I couldn't think, but, like, that's a sensitive area for, Yeah, for a lady from from what we've been told and what we read.
01:12:02:18 – 01:12:13:06
Why would you want got pissed? And if it's so big, so big to Pierce, how come it's really hard to find? Yeah.
01:12:13:08 – 01:12:36:21
I can find it that easy. Why have, What do I struggle so much? I I'm not even sure it's real nice I think Smith I Smith it's love it and other things keep men down and we can discuss the next week on our topic of toxic masculinity. And you can email us at lads anon pod at gmail.com.
01:12:37:02 – 01:13:04:08
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