#78 | Tattoos, Body Modifications and Piercings

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But after, the conversation of going to Cyber Dog in Camden and it was the first time in the flesh that I had seen a gentleman had, like a Stegosaurus head. Yeah. So he had screwed spikes in his skull that went double sided all the way down his head. And obviously he could screw stuff out and screw stuff in.

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And I was like, I've never, ever seen anything like this in my life. And I don't quite know how I felt about it. Like, I don't like, why would anyone ever do that? I don't know, and I don't know where it comes from. Would be interesting to know if there was some sort of like, I don't know, sort of trauma that's forced them into becoming mad, right, with their parents in that.

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And like I for extreme, piercings. So you've got your usual facial piercings of your eyebrow, your nostril quite like that. I'm not really sure how I feel about, you know, the, the cheek dimple piercing. You know, I wouldn't want these bits pierced. I don't I'm not really into piercings at all. Really? My missus is thinking about getting a nose, a nose ring, the the Monroe as well, where that one is pierced.

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I'm not, I don't really I can't really get that. That you could get away with an eyebrow, mate. When I was younger, I wanted to get my eyebrow down. It was like at our age, the bar and the eyebrow. Everyone. Everyone was getting. It was always the boy. But I had a. Yeah. And you had, like, the lines shaved into your eyebrow as well.

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You do that, that do. I didn't do that. Thank fucking Christ that we're not growing up and I. And a bar in your eyebrow was like a sign that you're a homosexual. No way. Really? Yeah. It's a gay thing when you like it. I don't know if it was a gay thing, but it was definitely. You were gay if you had it called, according to other lads that went to Moscow.

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I. Yeah, know that everyone was getting it done. Where, where we were in school like that. Being like gay and been accused of gay was a massive thing happened all the time. It was so dominant about 60% of the day. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, sure. There was a kid could most no was his name. I can't remember his name.

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And yet, you know, that rare condition where your. I was different color. So you might have one. Hey. Yeah. Hazel or one blue. It looks incredible. Yeah. Like it's really recognition. Well, the room around the school was. His eyes were normal, but then they went like that because he was looking at too many bums.

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That was the logic. That was that. That was a level of intellect that I went to school with. At school. Everything was gay. I went, yeah, like any anything and everything, like you sitting next to me and you and the teachers. Right. All right. Pens out. Okay. Then you might next you under his pen, so goes. And he gets a fountain pen.

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Now this guy what have go. Well, I got fountain pen. It was just banded around willy nilly. You if your trousers were too tight. That was gay in my school. Yeah, yeah. For sure. Yeah. There's everything. It's almost. It's almost as if, like, you know, we needed things like pride. Yeah. I mean, you know, cause people get annoyed with it, like, they get.

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They get kind of wound up, right? You guy, you okay? So what? Who cares? Yeah, but it wasn't always like that. It weren't always like, you go your gay or your gay. Oh my God, you get. And it's not even. It wasn't even like gay is in. You're talking about your sexual orientation. It was just like gay was used to something bad for ages.

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So you could kind of understand if someone was gay, why they would never want to come out for fear of rest of you. Certainly in my school there is. There was a kid whose name was Kwami Gay. It's just a surname. But he had a terrible time in school. I don't know, but I can. You can understand why.

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Yeah. And the thing is, is common to all boys school, 1200 boys in their. Statistically speaking, there were loads of gay kids in there that never come out. Not one. There wasn't a single one kid coming out as gay in my entire five years there. And it's completely you understand why, given that that the world that that was, what would you say like the environment that that that that school created because you wouldn't last.

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And that's and that's why things like pride and stuff are really important, that people that just are born with a sexual proclivity can't just be themselves. And so if ever you feel on yourself asking, right why pride is such a big thing, it's because of that high time retirement pride with Jess. You might be listening. And, our mate Leroy, and we went to Brighton Pride.

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We had a wicked time. It was such a good pie until about half nine. Well, off. And it off nine. Just got a little bit crabby. Oh. Really? Yeah. Like I just it was almost like. Oh, because you don't. I didn't know the etiquette. So I was stumbling, stumbling in, grabbing papers while I was stumbling into situations constantly.

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Right. Which was, it was interesting. I mean, what are you were being grabbed. Yeah. And then. Yeah, a couple of times, like when I went on lucky Man. When I was having a weird. I was having a with what? God me midway exams crack grabbed. You called. Can they get. That's not enough. And that nothing like that.

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Nothing like that. Just got me to a shake that for you might make a stop on the ass and stuff like that. It was all friendly, but, But then I would. I went to pride in, in where was it? Hamburg. That was a different kettle of fish. Pluck me. Really? It was quite. It was. It was very kind of sexual very early on.

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Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, yeah. And we put a, a mate of ours, James Allcock is, he looks like a, he's a handsome young man. But then that would have been. It must be in about ten years ago now. And they put him in lighthouses and nothing else. He went down a storm, I can imagine. Read Rothko.

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Yeah, for sure I loved him, I loved him, I am, I like not talking about, like being gay. I don't have any male gay friends. I don't know anyone that's male and gay. Yeah, I know if he isn't. Isn't that weird?

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There's been no one in my friendship group, no one in my out of friends, no one in, I don't know anyone. That's so. I'm close with that. I have, do you think that then that. So. But you have your group, everyone you come with, it's. So you grew up with. You would they they would be still worried about coming out, and they might actually be secretly gay, though.

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You said. No, I'm just like, I just think it's weird. Isn't someone usually growing up the same? Pretty much like it's only you said something only each the last week. But a week before what? 1 in 10.

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Or something like that. As I was, I ended up talking about this sort of stuff that.

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I did, I don't know, 2 million, 3.9% of the UK population aged 16 or over was identified as lesbian, gay or bisexual. Oh, okay. I don't know what that is in statistic terms, but no, I just thought it's interesting. So I just I don't know anyone that's, Marilyn gay. Just thought, as we're talking about art, I'll tell you about it.

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Your brother. But he's not gay. But he has a piercing between is. What's that piercing? I know it's nose. That is fucking mental. I don't even know when that happened. It was just something that you just saw on his face once, and I was like, oh, of course it is. Because that's how, like, nothing surprises me about, like, I don't know what, yeah, it just it just came out of nowhere.

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I'd like. I know that speaking to him, I'd. He'd never ask him. I mean, why why why would he say that? He always fancied that my, Like the piercings, like my daughter's got her belly pierced. I think my Mrs. is dead. That's quite, you know. Yeah. Yeah, usual and stuff. Like, my Mrs. has her tongue pierced as well.

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She does to this day. Yeah, to this day she's had it for years. What wasn't she still maintains it. She doesn't want to take it out. Correct. That is mental eye out for everybody who are some patients. Just took him out and let him go by now. Yeah. Same with eyebrow piercings as well. A lot of people when I was growing up, they had the eyebrow pierced and it was great.

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And then they. Why have you got your phone? You had your text if I missed it out. Yeah, yeah. And but with the, eyebrow piercing then the people had them. Then five years later they'd be taken out because the weight of the ball had moved. And it's kind of like that. The line is like stretched and gone fucking weird.

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And so I'm glad I didn't get any of that stuff. But did you did you have you ever had your rapist? Yeah, I had it that when I was like 14, 15. I remember because I went down the local park, we used to hang around Kinloch Park in Holloway, where all the lads and said, lads, lots of girls, you know, it was about 15, 16.

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We said, knock around there, I don't drink inside or not. Yeah. Look at their pace. That. But last about two weeks. That's okay. I got fucking bored of it. What do you mean you got what? You got an ER patient done in a field of William? No, no, I can't remember. I got it done. I don't remember the place, I just, I just had it, but,

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Yeah, I was 16 when I, my first, I was 16. Yeah. At worst it was a scorpion on my arm is, is the only one I could afford, so I just wanted a tattoo. And this is what I'm saying. Is that how your brain works when you're 16? Which is why you always have to be forgiving to your children.

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Even when they seem sensible. They don't have a fucking clue what's going on. They don't talk me through. Talk me through Scorpion. Because he's so, so this is so far removed of the person that I know you as to be like, that's fucking scorpion me up, brother. Get it on my arm. Yeah, yes! Oh my God. Yeah. It's gone.

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That's covered. But it was a oh my just on whatever they call that. The top. Top on top of your arm. Yeah. Not your bicep above that, it's a tricep, I don't know. Yeah. So it was on there and I had £30, and I was just like, I want to get a tattoo. The first play with a tattoo.

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Me. And then I found somewhere that that would. Why wouldn't I? Wouldn't he take your age? Yeah, I was under age, and I was. And then I went to a place called. So this is this is a funny story. I see, I got this tattoo and it was. I was with a girl, was one of my first girlfriends was.

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And I can't remember her name. Anyway, I went to see her in battle, where she lived near Hastings. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember this? Do you know I'm talking about. I don't know, I thought, but what you said back. Oh, no, it's. That was too high. But that be where? The Battle of Hastings. It's a place for battle because the Battle of Hastings happened next.

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And I was like, I want a tattoo. And then the only one I knew, she lived in Hastings.

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I don't know, I can't even remember her name, let alone where I met. I don't know, I don't know what happened.

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It might have been over the internet. A six day. Okay. Yeah, but. So I just got a computer and we had the, you know, the, the old. So you we have to wire it from the telephone line and you couldn't have a telephone on at the same time as the internet. So you even connected the internet and you were charged by the minute that you was on the internet.

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So you get mad, mad, expensive bills. And I was sort of downloading kind of porn and stuff, but not. Yeah, not videos like pictures. So but then the internet was so slow that you would look at a porn picture, a picture of pornography, and it would be a woman. And then it's load from the top down. So line by line this picture would load and you're like, face topless, his nipples.

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And then obviously you don't go through the rigmarole of downloading the balls out. You'd have to put them on to a floppy disk.

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And you get em pegs. Remember, impacts like little videos of yeah, yeah, for certain videos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so, where was I? Scorpions? I yes, I think, I think I might know, I can't remember already, so I went down to see her. Katie. Her name was Katie. Katie Nabors. I'd love to see you.

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Love to know what she was doing, I dumped her, I dumped her for on New Year's Day. How terrible. Anyway, it's like I say, you're young. You do stupid things. Anyway, the, I got a tattoo of a scorpion. It's the only one got it done somewhere. It's almost like shapes. It's made that shapes. And then she told me that she was a Scorpio.

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And so she thought that I got the tattoo because of her star sign, right? Yeah, and I didn't. You think so? Do you think subconsciously that you kind of did? I don't think I had the money to be as selective that I. It was the cheapest. It was flash tattoos, right. The ones that they anyone could get.

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Right. Okay. So I don't think so. No, that was the first time. And then when I went to university, I got loads more. All shit, all covered. I when I first met you, you had a tattoo that I hated. What was it? It was, I don't know what it was. My it was like, like it was almost like a, like a uncross with a noose.

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It was. No, it was a symbol of life. It was an unk. It's called a what? An uncle. It's called an unk. Someone like that. It's a Gyptian symbol of life. It's like. Yeah. It's terrible. It's a terrible tattoo.

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It's horrible. And then I had a yin yang as well. Yeah. You did have the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, if any of anyone listen to this and your your children want a tattoo at 16, 17, 18, they might go and do it without, you know, but do everything you can to convince them not to. Yeah, I, I mean, with tattoos, I, I always wanted a tattoo, but there wasn't anything that I felt so strongly about as to say, I want that on my body permanently.

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Apart from I wanted to tattoo, I didn't know what to get. I've never changed the football team I support. Let's just get a Tottenham one. But that's got one on his forearm, not a massive one, I'll get that. So at 16, I told the story on on another part where I'd been rejected from every tattooist in Milton Keynes because I was too young.

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I jumped on a tree on a train with my Mrs., and we walked into. The first place that we saw on TV is like, sit in the chair. What do you want? I said, a Tottenham badge. A he did it. I was fuckin well chuffed with it. I said there was a picture of it when it was done and it looked all right.

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It looked like it was the lines. It fine. Yeah, it was colors. It looked colorful. You see. It wasn't. No, no it was. And then I mean like back in the close up pictures of it and stuff like that, you do realize that it was fucking horrendous and there's like loads of different things wrong with it. But I've had a lot of people over the years to say how you can get it redone and rethink to look quality, but I kind of like that memory of me, and my message is just kind of jumping on a train and just going to London and getting the tattoo done, and it was it was great.

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But apart from that, I've never had that excuse of, inkling to go and get another tattoo. There was a part of me when I was growing up, Mr. say, I always wanted my kids names tattooed on me. I always wanted that. You did. But then, yeah, I did, but now I'm old, I'm 42 and I'm like, what about where would I even get it done?

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How would I get like, you should still get it done, I want it, you know, I want it. What is it? The birds, the prison, people in prison. Get on them. Yeah, yeah. This is it. Sparrows, swallows. They get swallows. Sorry. Swallows. I wanted a swallow here and a swallow there. And I wanted their names underneath the swallow.

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He do that? Yeah, I think I think I think you should do that. And what's great, obviously, is because, like, you know, neither of us, we're in the 40s, right? We're not yet ripped. We just got normal bodies. Slightly bloated. Yeah. Could you say that? Well, yeah. Oh, yeah, I mean slightly. It looks like I've been fished out of the Thames where I've been dead for three weeks.

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Yeah. So tattoos kind of work better on bodies that don't look like that.

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They they look what they look when they're not like my body. Yeah, they look better on bodies. Like, I don't know, Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Yeah. Chiseled body and I well looked after, well cared for bodies. But this is not about that, is it? It's about your children and and showing them that you love them. So you need to get at them.

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Yeah, I probably should. You know that they looked after about ten minutes. I'll just forget that you've even done it. Yeah, I know, I've been like, oh, that's weird. That. And then they'll just go back to claim road roadblocks or something, which is not where I want it to be. No, no, look, look at it. Look at it again.

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You can't.

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What does it look like? Because you've got your massive sleeve. Yeah. And like you just said, you've got, you've got it all covered up. Did you get your, like. So see this? The thing that always got me with tattoos and.

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The, the how permanent it is. And obviously you wanted to get your tattoos covered up and you went with a specific theme for your sleeve, didn't you? Yeah, I did actually, which is kind of stupid. Like now I don't think about it now. Is I fucking so stupid? But the time, isn't it? Yeah. I regret reading. Oh, Terry, people over one regret said tattoos.

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Anyone out there still looks at them after fucking 15 years gone. Yeah, I'm glad I did that. No one. I'm my one. I'm glad I did that. Apart from you. Yeah. No you don't, I don't. I think they generally stupid and I did I think most people think that their tattoos are not very good or they wish that.

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Really. Yeah. You change and you, you get in something, you know, like the cliched responses that go on your body forever. And at the time you go, I know that, obviously I know, but then you also think you have the same tastes and feelings forever and you don't. You change constantly. So it is kind of stupid. So yeah, they were so I had like a massive I wouldn't say I, I had a bit of a crisis in my 20s and that I was really scared of, like mortality and death.

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Right. And stuff like that. Oh, I know that one. Yeah. And one of the things that helped me is understanding and reading about religions and how how other people approach, approach death. Sorry. Excuse me. Approach that and how they celebrate it. And now there isn't one true understanding of death. And you're a, you know, your way of thinking is just a way.

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And it's it's not necessarily the truth. And I've came I've come to it was only really recently where I've just gone, like I have absolutely zero fear of it now. Really, none like it does conjure nothing in me, at all. I'll tell you. I'll tell you how it is and, in a second. But yeah, so I got all these tattoos and all the different ones had different meanings on them, like, you know, there was I've got, like, this money that was burnt and the.

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I can't remember the specifics behind the tattoos now, if that's how stupid this is, but the, this how money is called, I think it's in Chinese culture where they burn money in the art so that it's given to you. You have money to spend in the afterlife. I got an orchid article. Yeah, I got an orchid that grows from the dirt.

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So from death grows life. That was the idea. I got a color error on my on my underside of my forearm, which is, you know, the day of the dead and how that's celebrated in Mexican. There's other stuff as well. Kali on my arm, which is, you know, I got a time I might be butchering that. Yeah.

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Let me just Google it. So my arm and I don't even know this is the point. It's like fucking. You forget I didn't know about this Kali one, but I was more kind of,

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Reference in your, like, day of the dead kind of Mexican. But I didn't really realize that it was all to do with. Yeah, all of it. Yeah. And that. But that's that's that's quite cool. I mean, that's not really. Yeah. Oh my. I mean it's faded some of it the is gone completely. But I got so it goes which is from the Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse-Five book.

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Yeah. Which is about it's about accepting that bad things happen more or less. The themes of that book is that and an element of stoicism system is needed in order to get through life as unscathed as possible and accepting negative things and bad things that happen and and understanding them for what they are, and don't let them define you and that kind of thing.

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That's that's what it is. So, I mean, all of that is that's, you know, I wouldn't say it's a kind of throw away tattoo is to say I've got a fucking cringeworthy, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Because and for you it might be. But I can understand the thought process, natural process of trying to process, dying and a fear of it.

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Having all of that, would you like now, would you get any more tattoos, after you've just said no, would you get any tattoos removed? Have you seen how they remove them? It looks like fucking it. Well, it is pain. No, I wouldn't get any more. We can get removed. I couldn't give a shit about them.

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Really? All done and dusted. Actually, the one time I did say that I would only get another tattoo. So when I was, younger, you know, I think I've told the story. I fell off my BMX when I was younger, and I fell onto a park lorry, and somehow, someway, I got my finger caught on it and it ripped off and it was just hanging by threads, and they sewed it back on.

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They're so bent and twisted. But it's my, wedding ring finger. So in the winter it's really sensitive and so. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I, I, I think that people want. Yeah, yeah, I don't even want a ring on it and I don't want to draw. I just, I just don't want a ring on it, basically. But what I said, if I did get married, I'd get my partner's name tattooed on it so that there is something always there.

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But I just don't want a ring on my finger. But I'm happy to have a branding on me. Actually. Branding? That's a fucking, When I was researching. These people get branded. Do you want just before you move on, do you want to know how I figured out about death and. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why didn't you say?

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Well, because he said, I'll tell you in a minute. But you're going to do that now. Yeah. This is the minute. Right? Okay. Right. So so it occurred to me that that, when, when you, are unconscious, when you have an anesthetic or if you're not unconscious, time suddenly becomes irrelevant. You cannot conceive of the amount of time that's passed.

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It could be 100 years. It could be a minute, because the minute you're knocked out from for anesthetic, the minute you wake up, it feels like no time has passed at all, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So like if you I have I've got, I have a hernia up in next week, next Tuesday and so I'm going to have a and it's general and safe and then the daily operation to come up.

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The time that passes in that moment is effectively zero. You wake up the minute you're full asleep, you might be off kind of aware, but generally my experience has been it's just a it's like that you're knocked out and then you're awake. Death has to be the same night. So you await your thought, you pass away, you shut down.

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And if I could be unconscious or death or dead for 100 million years, and I would never know. Equally, if there is some reincarnation, it happens instantly. Even if it happens 100 years from the point I die. It happens instantly when I'm dead. So the minute you die is the minute you wake up. If it's possible, and if it isn't possible, it will feel like you.

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There is no consciousness of the time passing. So if there's a world where you are reincarnated, or they figure out how to bring you back, or whatever it might be that happens at the minute you fall asleep, the you go, you pass, and if it doesn't happen, it's the same feeling. So there's nothing to be scared of.

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Yeah, I mean, that all makes no sense. Yeah, but, it's still the bit where I'm falling from a plane. Okay. Yeah. No, that's. No. The act of dying. I don't want to die. Yeah, I want to get hit by a truck. In a submarine in Egypt. Yeah. Yeah, that one that you but don't want to give.

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Sort of in shark infested waters, waiting for a shark to come and eat me. I don't want that be. It's horrible. I'm scared of that. Yeah, yeah, that's my issue. Was the feeling of that not existing? Is that what was scary? And that's what doesn't scare me anymore. I mean, that's good. I, I like I can never I don't even know if I'm, I if I think my fear is more to do with before the part of dying, like being asleep and being in pain or anything like that doesn't really bother me.

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But. Yeah. So what about, like, you know. Yeah, yeah. The pain of. Yeah, if you catch if you get cancer or something and been in lots of pain and having to confront the fear of other people of you passing that bit. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's just like anything your brain adapts brilliantly to the situation it finds itself in always.

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It really does. But people can be. It's just a wonderful, wonderful tool. Your brain, I mean, so I know my missus is going to be all right when I die, right? I know she's she's so kind of pragmatic and kind of gets on with things. Yeah. I don't have to fear her falling apart at all. She thinks that I won't be fine, but she thinks that I would fall apart.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would run in front of a truck. I run in front of a truck straight away. Yeah, I'd probably advise you to do that as well. You'd be like reincarnate. Yeah, I know, you know. Today. Yeah.

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Right. We are going to go on to something I know, you know and dilemmas. But before we do, I. I'm just trying to. Yeah. There we go. The topic for next week. Flap is already touched about it. Touched on it today and that is the internet. So Flav mentioned this a couple of episodes back. We'll be chatting about the history of the internet and the effect is had on society.

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But most importantly, we want your stories of the craziest things you've seen or done on the internet. So have you posted something that you really shouldn't have ever watched? Something by accident? But most importantly, have you bought anything on the dark web now? Loads. When I've mentioned this a couple of weeks back, we had a couple of emails and one of them what they were bought, what they bought on the internet and continue to buy their story was fucking top tier.

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So if you've got stuff like that, but you know that you can share that you did it on the internet, send it in the lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out. Now we're going to jump into dilemmas.

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Are the night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes. High is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

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This is called how long. Suppose two people are in a long term relationship that is not going well, and both parties agree it is time to end their relationship in a manner that is civil. What you think is a reasonable amount of time to pass before one can be to begin being physical in another relationship. This can be in any form, such as a one night stand, dating apps, reasonable time meaning socially acceptable.

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Basically, I've been in a relationship for years. It's over. It has been for years, but we didn't want to admit it. Yeah, in that time, I've grieved concrete emotions and moved on. There's a girl at my work. The flirting is off the charts. We've not even kissed. But the chemistry is electric. I guess my dilemma is everyone knows I've just finished a long term relationship, and they see me carrying on with my colleague straight after.

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How long should I leave it? What do I do?

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What do you think? Is it? Yeah. He's gone through the process, done the really mature thing of processing the long term relationship he's been in. Yeah, I mean, I know I've never been in that situation. I've been in the exact same situation in terms of a long term relationship and it being, oh, you sure you're in it? But every now so slight fucking I wouldn't give a shit like I've in work romances and shit like that.

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Yeah I think I like if I, if, if I was in a position I'd been, you know, with my 25 years and I come in Monday and I said, yeah, me and the missus either. No, we're not with each other anymore. Then the following week, I was hanging out at the back of my colleague. Then, you know, does everyone have to know, like, why can't you just do it like go?

00:32:06:14 – 00:32:32:17
Because they would know. Everyone talks in the office, don't they? People would know you, tell you, you, you're you know, your colleague at work. How you never guess what me and Rachel, you know, I mean, Suze, me and whoever. Yeah. I'm. People would work out. People would know. But the kind of. I suppose you're right, you know, how much do you care about other people's opinions?

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How much do you care about your colleagues opinions? Now, for me, I would be quite, What's the word? I would care, I'm thin skinned or I. You would, but, also kind of like having sex with a new woman. You can more about that. Yeah, I know, I know, that would be good, wouldn't it? You'd have to be like, yes, but if you're out of a relationship and you're single and there's no guilt, there's nothing like that.

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Yeah. The last thing I'd be concerned about was work, fucking Dorothy and accounts, things I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care at all. Unless it isn't that. And you think it might impact your job in some way. And that's what I was going to get to. That's what I like. If people think of you, then because you were quite happy to jump ship and not be loyal and not, you know, they don't understand the context of it.

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Oh, I don't, I, I would probably say what you feel is, you know what's right. You know what feels okay. I'd probably if it were me, I'd give it a couple of weeks at least and then see how you feel. Might you feel free to make mistakes? Just do what you want. I think. Get stuck in collapses.

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Get stuck in. Right. We're going to go into something only, you know, something only you know. Do you want the extra jingle? Okay. Yeah.

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Something, you know.

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Oh, right. God. Sorry. Oh, sorry. I'm not it.

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It didn't work. It just turned her on more.

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Here. You read about just how negatively the C-word is thought of here in North America. Reminded me of a story I've been meaning to share. So I did a quickie with Ricky. Someone said about the word cunt in England, in North America and Australia, and how that word is perceived in those three places. So this is, I said in North America, people, you know, if you say the C-word, women often faint and men will not have eye contact with you because it's such a bad.

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But they're. Yeah, years ago, my wife was coming to bed and was feeling a bit frisky. She was snuggling up to me trying to get something started. Normally this is never a problem, but that night I was completely knackered. I just wanted to go to sleep, not wanting to reject my wife and make her feel bad, but still trying to weasel out of sex.

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My quick thinking came up with a plan. I rolled over and said to my wife, I'm going to fuck your cunt. So hard thinking using the taboo word would immediately turn her off and I could go back to sleep. It didn't work, it just made her more excited. Well, at this point, I've gone this far. I've been a man of my word, gave her what she was looking for.

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And after 30s later, I was drifting back off to sleep. And that is something only I know. It reminds me a little bit of, I'm going to butcher this, but it's one of the greatest tweets I ever read. Was this woman who was talking about her getting frisky with this boyfriend that she had, and, they were getting down to it.

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And you want a decent, dirty talk. And she said to him, call me a slut. And instead of, calling a slut, she he said you were a slag and no one likes you.

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Which is completely different from calling someone a slut during sex a calling or slag that no one and no one likes you. It's a bit of a mood killer.

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I was just trying to find the tweet. I couldn't find it, you know, that's well. But because you would not be mortally wounded by that, you would. And it's totally not in a sexy mind. It's just like, you know, like, say, I think that is a perfect way to end this podcast. Remember, next week we're going to be talking about the internet, and we want your stories about the stuff you've bought on the dark web, anything that you've posted that you shouldn't, or any videos that you watched that you thought was something supposed to be totally different.

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And until then, we will see you on Monday.

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The night hazy light band of brothers playing tones high as quiet midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.