#87 | British Sitcoms | How Has THIS Sitcom Not Taken Top Spot!?

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It is. They are naff and not naff. I mean like two albums. Fun of that is just what, It's one of those things. So, it's really cool to hate on Coldplay. It's like every. Everyone likes Coldplay, but they're just too scared to come out and say that because of they'll get, coated off about it.

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I wish Chris Chris Martin would stop wearing nice, really tight vintage shirt. So because he really does look like a gimp in them. Well, I love the, the bands on Around These Arms and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, he doesn't need to. It doesn't need to have a bit of a makeover. He's such a lovely man as well.

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Yeah. He said. He said sometimes a little taste in music. I'm like, I'm not sure you actually like music. Oh, why? Go on. Explain. That's ridiculous. Right. You're just trying to get into first thing on a Saturday morning. And what you're trying to say. I'm sorry. Are you trying to rob me up? You're trying to get me.

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Yeah. I mean, I always was confused about your Pet Shop Boys, infatuation until I actually saw them live. And then I was like, oh, my God, this great. Yeah, they are. Absolutely. We spoke about, yeah. Go on. The, the Pet Shop Boys. I'm still yet to see them live and I would love to see them live.

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And I'll be keeping my eye out for them. We spoke. I don't know, it must have been the music episode. No. What was it? What episode? It doesn't matter. Right. But we mentioned, a certain short ginger man, long hair. Back in the day, he had dreads makers. Because I've been, smashing up a bit of the back catalog of simply Red.

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I don't know how it happened. I just find myself sitting there listening to the same thing. And what the fuck's going on? Well, it's gone on. He's got some bangers. I, I can't I couldn't tell you. I know, I know, obviously, and I love the thought and I, and I earn I can't think of what else it'll on my list to try to mention that.

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Yeah. Fair enough. All right. Talking about money, but early Friday, All right. Okay. Now, there's one, called, for your. Is it? I think it's for your babies. I can't really sing it, but it's, My it's that for me. That's top tier. That's top tier. Simply red. That is. My missus hates him. Says he.

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Sleazy. Yeah. There's a back in the day. I think he was a bit of a shocker. Yeah. Which didn't make any money. Yeah, but he doesn't look like he should be. No, it isn't all right for a musician to use their fame to get them. Well, if everyone. I mean, everyone's fine with it, are they? I mean, the thing is, everyone's consenting.

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And this isn't the thing to say that I'm the powerful person in this dynamic. The money I've. The fame and the artistry in my band or whatever. And then the other person is saying, I want to sleep with you, so I can say, I slept with Mick Hucknall. Oh. Who's that? The guy with the ruby in his teeth.

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Oh. That guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. I think I'm right in the envelope. Aren't they? In a position of of huge influence. And. Yeah, maybe because of that I shouldn't never have sex and have not, shouldn't have sex, but I think they should be. What's the word? They should be they should be careful on using their privilege like they like back in the day, they used to be bands like,

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Hey, the Fucking Owl was the band that had their face painted black and white kiss. And like, they would have, like, lines of ladies outside of their hotel room. Would that be smashing them up? Yeah. I mean, what was that like? Is that all right? I don't know if they're lining up to do it there. Maybe I'm like.

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But yeah. Yeah, I had a great responsibility when I used to go out. That's like. That's like the old day Bonnie Blue, isn't it.

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Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. You know, it's I don't know, I remember we talked about Bonnie Blue, but it's sort of evolved over time. Yeah I don't think I could. There's anything worse I could think of the save him of a midday. Yeah. Tell me about the scene she's been in. She's. I don't know. What would you mean?

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All the scenes, you know, I don't know, I've never seen, like, Norway. Oh, yeah. I thought you watched all that stuff. Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. You got to be on the speed of bro porn. But you don't watch the. I watched the Beaver, the Bonnie Blue thing because obviously it was hot. Topical. Nina is to research on here.

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A bit of a chopper on that any. Yeah. That's right. Actually, that's all right. I was surprised by, Yeah, yeah. Quite earthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can only find the 39 second clip. Yeah. Same time. I think that's all that's for the areas. I think it was pure like actual I think for research you pay for it and watch it.

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You should that there's there's absolutely no chance I am I am doing that. I can't think of better ways to spend my money. But a night out, I had a great responsibility. That's the thing, because of my really good looks, women also didn't know what to do sometimes. So, I would often have to turn them down saying, this is not on you.

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This isn't your fault, I appreciate this, so turn down. I'll turn down opportunities to engage just because I'm aware of my look. Right? Right. Okay. Yeah. So.

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Jingle. Yeah. Yeah.

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The night hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet and midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music I. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Hello and welcome to lads. Anonymous is episode 87. I'm Ricky Heath flab, two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature something only you know. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod. How's it going? I've. I've been dying. Dying to find out how your night out. When we stop feeling it.

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Still feeling it. No, no, I'm all right. It was heavy. Took me through. It took me forever. I need to know. I need to know data. So. Yeah. So it's Saturday, Saturday, midday. Me up Saturday morning. Yeah. No, 1:00, 10:00. Got on the, rather than for London. And you know what I'm like. They say it's my is,

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I don't want to be around loads of people. Well, if I could, if my ideal would be, the pub would be shut and I just sit in it. That would be the idea. Yeah. I've not. I've really noticed that about you as we've got older, where the, You know. Oh, it's wrong of me to say that you hate people.

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I don't know, but in, in, big kind of social. Yeah. Struggle areas that you that you you just that I don't want to I don't know, don't want to be here. Yeah. There is a bit of the but then I was, I think since moving out. Here you go. You could be become sort of soft to the city.

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Yeah. Yeah, I think so. So, Yeah. Like when meeting up at the end of the he and his mum, finally we can see Pete Tong. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Abajo, every time I say that to you, it's almost like you haven't thought about it all week. My, Trust me, ask my Mrs.. Well, ask my Mrs.. So if I was to say I'm not coming.

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Yeah. Would it would upset you? Mrs.. If I was to is I just want to know how much this means to you guys. If I was just to say I'm not going I'm not we're not coming. So do what you want. We'd be we'd be bitterly disappointed. I'm. I don't believe you. Oh, yeah. My hand on the table.

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What am I? I don't mean to be. So. Yeah, we should be banging on the table as well. Both of us are both hands, so.

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All right, all right, well, okay. Well,

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What was I saying? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it's got the business in it. So the business is coming, baby, right. So we went to it was busy, but it was like. It was. It was. It wasn't too bad. It was. It went to Mayfair. There's a pub called the Albany, I think, for the Albany public house and apparently does the best Guinness.

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And he went to Mayfair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a denari. I can't look in it. Can't be seen in parking. You know north London. Holloway. Do you think I know this is, this is partly a little bit joking and a little bit tenuous to be truth. Do you think you're, you going out? You're you become more self-conscious because of your visibility online?

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No, not not in that setting. No visibility on TV? No, no, no, not in that. No one. I don't assume people. Well, actually, that's funny you say that. Actually, I was, I was in Paddington before I went to Mayfair. Not far as I don't like ten minutes from pattern. Yeah. And, that was two lads Aston Villa were playing.

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You did play Nancy? Yeah. No. Park Palace in the FA Cup semifinal. And you're walking a lonely bloke does. It's like a double take. And it's always, almost always from Japan podcast to do James. Always. Yeah. No, no not nothing from KFC. Very rarely. But it's not visual. It's not fine because that visual product wouldn't you. I suppose there is.

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Yeah. It's always Japanese. Always what I mean no, you see I want pictures and shit like that, right? Yeah. There was one time, but this is kid chase me for a market place and I, I was, I was I had broccoli and celery in my hands and stuff like that. And he was like, oh, can I get a picture?

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I can bug all this stuff is I that's fine. And his mum took the picture and he has his mum love my mum because he loves you. He loves, he loves, he loves vodka. There's a bit weird and yeah when someone's going oh my God, oh my God. Like, you know we're like Ricky, you know who we are.

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Yeah right. Yeah yeah. How abnormal that is. So, so growing up in the way we did. Yeah. So then someone said, because you've done a podcast with someone you want, you take your photo is an abnormal thing. It's not something. Yeah, that's for sure. Sure. They can't get their words out. I'm not. This is what I know.

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What what they did. You spit your fucking words. That. So I've got things to do. Lots of random things. Yeah, no, I just so we had a good time. We had about about a few Guinness's, a few whiskeys, but was it was the Guinness good. Then? As much as people have build up to it, I can see by your face every bit of it, you know, it's a bit of a it's good as it can be for you get in England.

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But once you, you once you suck the black stuff in in Dublin, in Ireland, then there's just no comparison. Doesn't matter what people say. It's just they sure make you sure about this. There is no comparison. I mean, you can compare it in that it's both. Yeah, both. Guinness. But in terms of what you would prefer to drink, you wouldn't spit.

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You wouldn't spit in the Guinness in England. Compared to what Jesus mate is different. It's I don't know what they're doing. The gatekeeping it they don't want anyone to know actually how they do it. Sure that's what I that's which is fine because it is almost like a pilgrimage for people that love it. And it's like the most popular pint in England now did I?

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Why? Yeah, it's the least. Despite what people say, it's the least calorific. Really. There's less calories in that in the pint of Stella. Fuck. Really? Yeah. I always felt it was like it was the opposite. I always thought it was the most calorific. It's not because if it kind of feels like a meal when you're drinking it. Yeah, it's quite thick and stuff, mate, but what have you been if you had a Guinness in Ireland?

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No. Yeah, but this was like years and years ago and it was my first Guinness. And I'll take a sip and saw. This is fucking disgusting.

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My, my my missus, my missus Irish family bought it for me. It's like, well I can tell I didn't break it. Just watch me like just everyone around me. And I just took a sip. They're like, what do you think? I was like, that is horrible.

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In Ireland. Have you got any foxes over here? Yeah, you. But you're. That is one thing I can say. You're visually stunning. So I think you'd be happy. You've kind of thought it. You genuinely would. No, no, no Colin Carr instead I was chief. Says his grim as well. Foster, you know what? I have to drink stuff like that is because the alcohol in it, I see if I'm sitting, if I'm sitting there going like, yeah, get me a fucking San Miguel a 5% or Heineken, but I am dead by like 9:00 and I'm dead by 9:00.

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In most cases when I'm drinking Foster's after. What do I drink? Fucking ridiculous. You you three. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mate. Yeah, yeah, he's in my mind, would you? Which you can't rely on you on your own body not to make you completely pissed. It's funny how some people can just maintain it on they, like, some people can just, handle, like, I think I could.

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I could be rational. I'll take some pills and I could hide it, whereas, yeah, I don't think you could. No, no, I definitely couldn't. You 100% could. There's only been a couple of times I know those times. I'm just like, he's like, I can see like you see it isn't it? Is. Yeah. He's rolling. But yeah, I just I've always been like that and I've never wanted to.

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I've always been like that. And no matter how hard I tried, no matter how many meals I ate before.

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Well, even when you have football of a Turkish, that doesn't make you sober. No, it doesn't, and it annoys me. It just makes me even more full. Really? Thai? I was then starting to feel a bit pissed, and I'm not fucking anymore. I'm, How how does that affect me so bad? I don't know, but in in in.

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The great thing about getting it is kind of almost like ceremonial when, when you go there and you're having your pint, it feels special. And I think there is an element to you build outfit, building it up, and you're looking for the positives and everything, but there is a cream to the top that you just you can't find here.

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You just cannot. It's you can see it physically. See the difference. You know, Guinness is actually red. Well Guinness is red in color. They'll tell you that the Guinness factory, whatever we call it, everyone can deep like it's. Yeah, it's a deep red. It's not black. Apparently you're you're going to Google it now and you will be like, well off the receipt.

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You're a black Guinness is actually a very dark ruby red. This ruby hue is due to the roasted barley used in the brewing process. The distinctive dark color, along with the creamy white head is defining characteristic of Guinness. I did not know that. Yeah. There you go, boy. Although now you've said it, it makes sense because when you when you holding it up and the light goes right, you do see a red tinge.

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Yeah. Yeah I have actually because I know to look at. Yeah. Right now I don't that is good. That is good. But like when you have Guinness in Ireland right. Is that the head tracks down the grass. It just it, it's, it's the glass is full of it, the head all the way down. Whereas in England it, it just ain't because.

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Yeah. And mate there's a, there's a pub down the road from me. It's closed down. Thank fuck for an absolute heap of a place. The pint of Guinness I was served, I was, I wanted to throw it back in a woman's face. I wouldn't have done that, obviously, but I was just fuming. She. Is that right? Yeah. Just chill out there.

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Drunk is disgusting. It's terrible. I love it. How, Britain's how where we, see them absolutely disgusted with what service we've got. And they'll say, everything all right? And we all go, yeah, yeah, it's absolutely fine. And you walk away and then you slack off behind their back. Don't say it to them. It's a fucking mental in it.

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I need to ask about your hangover before we move on. It was pretty bad. Well pretty bad. Yeah. I would say, like, one of the worst of my life here. Oh my God. Really? Yeah, I came back and I just went just. So I came all the way back from London and got home, and Ollie was at work, so I just laid in the bed.

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Much sleep. I never do that. Like daytime sleep. Him. Yeah. I'm like, I got home about half one. Yeah. And, I'd just laid down on the bed and went to sleep. You pay. Gary is terrible, but, have you, And after that, have you, had a wee dip o off the animal like, I, I I'll drink for people that don't know.

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Might not be interested. Football Spurs had a big game against against who. By the glen. Bold claim to. Yeah. So Yeah. During that, I just felt like it was fun, too. But that's it. Good, good. No, just a few beers. Do you know what we're talking about today? I can't remember, we are talking about British sitcoms.

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Oh, yeah? Yeah. So did you watch 15 stories? I know I haven't. You got nothing to do, nothing to do a week. You do nothing. You do fucking nothing. Ricky. One bit of homework and it's just to watch you watch this program. You do year 12. Oh, what do you do? Work. Yeah. What? You create stuff and just go.

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I'm working. You can. That's what you're doing. Not when you're working for yourself. You're not your hobby. And hobby ain't real work. And envy is not a fucking hobby. Let me tell you that, we had quite a few emails about that. Well, 50 years old, but. Yeah. And before I, Because I will forget, before we actually dive into it, I'm going to read this first email out because this one took me by surprise.

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I feel like the only person in the country who watched the sitcom. Roger and Val. I've heard of it. Oh. So sorry. Roger and Val have just got in. That's the name of it. It ran for two series in about 2010, so only 12 episodes in total. And it was fantastic. Let's have a laugh out loud thing, but more of a tender relationship comedy.

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Very witty, but could be heartbreaking as well, especially in the second series. It starred Dawn French and Alfred Molina. Octopus? Yeah. That's that. He put that in brackets and just focuses on the half hour. When they got in from work and shared their problems of their day. It's a definite hidden gem because nobody has ever heard of it.

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I've never heard of it, no, I haven't. Roger and Val have just got in. That's what it's called. What channel was it on? Did I know and no idea. Never heard of it. And, it's, you know, two, big axes in there. Yeah. So I've never heard of it. And because of that, it's probably shit.

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Surely would have heard of it if it was any good. When, when you were growing up where we were one of those families that gathered around the TV for, like, TV shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we would, we would, we would, it would be if it was a regular occurrence. I remember it was a time where telephones, mobile phones didn't exist.

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And, you was either in your room playing PlayStation or wherever it might be, or you was downstairs in front of the TV, or we did. I was going, I was, I would imagine it was quite a rampant masturbate. I would use, let me have a look. Probably 12 or 13, 12 a.m.. Yeah, I remember the first time.

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Well, you can't, we can't. I can't remember the first. I remember the first time, everybody. First I ever felt with that stuck. And that was good. Yeah. That was, it was like, it was like the. You'd found it pulled Excalibur out of the stone. That's it. Yeah. You know, like. And if they only had, like, you see, like the ray of light from God.

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Yeah. That. Yeah. But yeah, we did, we did. We used to watch many films and stuff on Coronation Street. And EastEnders was big in the house when I was a kid. Is that weird? Yeah. You wouldn't miss an episode of EastEnders when it went three times a week. Everyone was buzzing in the flower house out. You used to be cheese the first day and they made it Monday, Tuesday and Thursday.

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I knew that you always had something good to watch. The heartbreaking bit was when the bill came on. When the bill ended on a Sunday meant that you had to go, well, no bill at any time. And did you get to go to bed? That was my bedtime. Half a bill. Fucking yeah. Trimmed to two feet. Just walking down the street.

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Yeah, yeah it did. And and that's it. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Back in shame. Yeah yeah yeah. One of my favorite things going I actually was when a producer had made it like a jungle track out of some sort of random TV program like casualty. Yeah. Yeah. I said, yeah, I know that one that I think the casualty and the Terminator, the garage tracks, the Terminator.

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Yes. It just see samples from the Terminator like bits, and it was just like, oh, I fucking love this. This is right up my street. I used to have dicks. Are you sad things? Well, you actually. Well, you were an aspiring DJ. Well, I like the idea of it, but then when I got a moment, I realized it was really odd.

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So I did have him for a bit. Yeah. Did he used to do a little bit of mixing in my room? I'd never did that, but one of my proudest hilarious rich. So. So no, I wasn't good at it. She's a cry with laughter. What is it you thought you was going to do? Like we come and talk DJ and no in me, Rick, I'm not that kind of type.

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I'm. I'm not that cool enough for that. But, So she's a funny, hilarious. Do you have your, headphones, like, one, one ear on and one off, like, wouldn't you know, I, I don't know, I don't know why you do that. We had. Did I, my sisters fell out many years ago. He was very much into dance music, and he was into.

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Do you remember dreamscape and stuff like that? Helter Skelter? Dreamscape. And so he used to collect those fliers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So all of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I used to, I would listen to that music and get into, collecting fliers. It's one of those things I did, but I didn't really like doing, well, clubbing.

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Yeah. Oh, I didn't go clubbing. Just listen to the music and collected the fliers. It was shit. Yeah, there was no like, there was a there was, there was pure Grooves, which is a record shop in archway. It was there for a long, long time. It's close now. And that you'd go in there and you'd pick up fliers.

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You stick to your bedroom wall. Yeah, yeah. And but not knowing anything about the music that he was talking about, I was just too young. Basically. No. Absolutely shite. It's a total shite. And, well, in terms of like, the was it sort of like sort of cheesy trance house, was it that. Yeah. I don't know if it's cheesy, but it's, you know, everyone's I know I do like house music.

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Really. Data house music. But yeah, that's another thing as well that probably, you would be surprised with my dance type, the type of dance music I like. It's kind of more on the, would you call it the the, you know, that gay music scene? I'm quite, quite enjoy that. You wouldn't expect that from me.

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Maybe you would. I don't know, I'm gonna get off that topic today.

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Okay. When I was younger, do you remember? What? So when I was younger, we used to watch it. We used to watch a lot of American, sitcoms. So first of all, there was, Shit. What was it? Good. Cheers. Oh, my. I, I've watched every episode of Twitch. Cheers. Have you read it? Yeah, yeah. My. So my girlfriend, when I first got with our ex-girlfriend, that was into, like, fucking creative movies and, like, you had loads of DVDs and you had the full set of cheers, and we would sit and watch it and then and then start again back to the same series.

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Watch it again. Fuck reading. Genius. Cheers. It's so funny. I couldn't tell you a single episode now, but I remember sitting there as a kid with my mom and laugh. Laugh? No. Laughing. No, no, it was good. Yeah. And then, then it was, I don't know if it came before or after it. Roseanne. Was it was it called Roseanne?

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Was it a big fan of Roseanne? Never really liked it, but yeah, full House as well that we used to watch. And then we bought the one I really, really liked. So as a kid was.

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Her. Remember, the name of it has to paint her in it, but I think, boy meets world, boy meets world. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Well, did you like to add to panga? I fancied obviously I was like, was it tapioca at panga, I think, and I was, yeah. I wanted to panga. Yeah, yeah. But you, it's now obviously a child but I was when I was her age.

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She still not a child. She hasn't stayed the same age. Yeah. I don't know what she does right now though. I wonder what she does look like now. Oh, I have to Google it. Yeah. No. Yeah, but they'd like that. They'd like that. Yeah. That was Reem when I. So the British kind of sitcoms, which we did actually sit down as a family.

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Birds of a feather. Yeah. You have no, no, just because it's like female leads that way. It was. That was hateful. Yeah. Didn't like I need, I need that. You're not funny. No. I like them pulling quirk and and, but I didn't, it wasn't really for me. Why? What did you enjoy? It did loved it.

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Absolutely loved it. And it was always kind of like it because it had them the, you know, because it was about two sisters and that dynamic. And one was kind of like it was always Bill would is the one was the, little bit overweight, bubbly character. And then the other one was the more beautiful, slender. And then it was this kind of, dynamic between them.

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But it was always like the affection of being sisters and sticking together and stuff like that. That's what I always remember from it. Anyway, did you watch around the. I think it was around the same time, and this is where my family really did kind of like, see you miss 2.0. Is it 2.5 to 2.4 children 2.4.

00:28:48:16 – 00:29:07:11
Yeah, I did like that. I did you like I don't remember, I don't remember, I like the son in it. I think the son was quite funny. Was a very specific thing on which I was. I didn't know if you would, pick up on it or not. Wasn't there an old lady that was a nun? Yeah.

00:29:07:11 – 00:29:19:18
Yeah, she was. She was glamorous, wasn't she? She was glamorous. The, family, Tottenham family, I oh, right. So for call it right.

00:29:19:20 – 00:29:36:04
Now he had there was loads and loads of references all the time about the son who supported Tottenham. And they would try and weave that into the show. I swear, I swear, the guy that dad used to drive a blue van and he had a Tottenham sticker in it, so when it pull on to the driveway, you know, I see that.

00:29:36:04 – 00:29:56:10
And I was like, yes. Oh come on. Yeah yeah yeah I like that in them. Yeah, yeah. Gavin and Stacey as well. They put a crowbar Tottenham into it. Yeah I mean it when he was like in the last one. I don't know how you feel about Gavin Stacey. We should probably talk about it. But there's going to be at the yet the.

00:29:56:12 – 00:30:15:03
I think it was Smith. He stuck there and had. Yeah. West Ham shots and he'd put a away for the West Ham shirt. Didn't make any sense. Didn't even refer to in the show. You quite like that. Do you like that. I didn't yeah I didn't actually notice that bit. I watched the final one because everyone was talking about never seeing an episode of Gavin and Stacey have.

00:30:15:03 – 00:30:31:02
No. Why did you watch this? However, what is? Because everyone was watching it and it was on and everyone's to watch and Christmas and I was like, you would have got anything from it? Yeah. Well, I mean, it was, it was, you know, you kind of you don't really need to watch fucking the whole thing to know what's going on.

00:30:31:02 – 00:30:58:00
Really. To be fair, all of the jokes, all of the jokes in the final episode have been built up over three years. So really? Yeah. And pre-season. Sorry. All right. Well, and literally everything was the tying of the strings. And now I'm saying it's this isn't great television. Oh it's okay, I think it's it's fine. It's entertaining. It sounds like, you know, I'm not passionate about Kevin and Stacey, but you can't just fucking watch it because everyone else is watching it.

00:30:58:00 – 00:31:19:08
And then and then expect anyone to take your opinion seriously. Well, I'm not asking people to take my money. I'm telling you, I don't like it. And I said, that's my opinion. Like I'm on my site. Looks like fucking reviews of the night. Yeah. You wouldn't. You want to you want to take them is really Woody in this part.

00:31:19:10 – 00:31:39:22
It's also when you look at James Corden, you just think, I know you're a cock. Yeah. That's it. That's why back in the day and always right there, I was always played that fucking clip where James Corden is audience A think is he audience an Indian and he's going to push Barinas key like Peter Rice. Yeah yeah yeah fucking mushroom.

00:31:39:22 – 00:31:59:19
They said he won't let me go. Isn't that funny. What the fuck. That's not funny. No I'm not I'm going to watch that. I'm always wasting my time watching James Corden. But just Big John does. He does it better ordering the big Chinese. Yeah there isn't like says posh at the end of it there is a lot that's very surface level to it.

00:31:59:19 – 00:32:18:18
It's not. I think that's why people like it. Is. It just you don't. It's you just sit down. There's nothing. It doesn't try and be anything else. And quite a sort of silly show as it is quite heartfelt and has sort of some moments where you sort of care about the characters. But I understand people thing is absolute tripe as well.

00:32:18:18 – 00:32:32:03
Yeah. I mean, I suppose if I watched it I might change my mind, but I'm also very, I don't know the word for it, but, you know, when you're a bit.

00:32:32:05 – 00:33:01:06
Prejudiced against other, British places. Yeah. Voice. All right. Oh, it's, like Welsh. It just felt like a very Welsh show and where, you know, talking about very Welsh things, but it would resonate. Probably. But, so, like, I just I'm not not that I don't like them, but I just don't get the Welsh stuff. It doesn't resonate with me current like Coronation Street.

00:33:01:06 – 00:33:25:08
And it's like, what about northerners and stuff? Oh, I'm northern, all right. I don't fucking care, mate. Like flying Manchester. This is brilliant. You should care. But you and I will know you know where you're from. Don't worry about you. Yeah, I know what you did there. And Milton Keynes is not enough. I know we do. What is it?

00:33:25:08 – 00:33:51:11
It's not south where I live. No, no. It's called. It's, We're classed as South East Midlands. No, no. Definitely not. Well, so what I'm doing is Midlands. And I'm really lucky that I am literally a hair away from being in Northamptonshire, which is cos I. What when you're watching the local news, what's the service called. Central.

00:33:51:13 – 00:34:16:07
No it's not, it's like London South East. No it is my I'm telling you I, I don't understand why this is so important to you. You're 41 now, Rick. It should be 42 and shouldn't make you, cause it. Does it bother you that no one's made any comedy shows about Milton Keynes? No. It doesn't any hits, right?

00:34:16:07 – 00:34:45:12
You've come out Milton Keynes and didn't, off the top of my head. No, I mean, no, not creatively. I don't think there's been a few things shot and filmed here, but nothing of, you think. And we'll get on to the office, but like, a office type, a mockumentary of Milton Keynes. It seems like the place that it would be shot at.

00:34:45:16 – 00:35:12:07
Yeah, because it's a very easy, low hanging fruit of punching down on a place like Milton Keynes because it's, you know, the roundabouts and concrete cows. And yeah, I never felt created in the 80s and never filled and all of that stuff. Yeah. Why are you defensive? I'm not getting defensive. You are you are you worried about you on the road in your in your, you know, a little shoot down in Milton Keynes.

00:35:12:09 – 00:35:46:07
The man says he's not defensive. He's got a poster of Milton Keynes. Right? Nixon. Yeah. Well, but, the, it would be sad of me not to actually mention Only Fools and Horses because we had so many emails about it, and I, like, I literally could do a, an entire podcast on Only Fools and Horses, but, one would imagine it went down in your house.

00:35:46:07 – 00:36:13:14
Any fools? Yeah, like a flat cap. You're old man. Like. Yeah, I know my granddad as well. It was like, yeah, they loved it. Everybody loved it. Really. For me, it was probably the greatest British like sitcom that has ever been created. Flight that I didn't. What? What did you. Sorry. I'm going to second I. My headphones appear to be blocked and I can see your face.

00:36:13:16 – 00:36:34:20
Did you just say it's not even top five? No. For me, ain't no you. How you explain your ins? Well, there are, there were at least five other British sitcoms I would prefer to watch than only fools. And those is a right. All right, I, I don't think it's top five for you either. It. I think you just sort of play into the crowd.

00:36:34:24 – 00:37:07:18
You're scared. No, no, no, you're worried that people go, how dare you? And that people may say to me and he's only fools. And, UK the office, my top one and two. And they can be interchangeable depending on my mood. Really? Well. But, only fools it run for so long and every, like, literally every episode is a fucking banger that, I mean, I'd have to give it to Only Fools.

00:37:07:20 – 00:37:24:12
It is great, don't get me wrong. Brilliantly written. And there are some moments where you're in floods of tears and it is, you know, yeah. I don't doubt any of that stuff, but what would I rather sit down and watch? And there are five others that I would rather watch than that. And, and there are five of us that you would rather watch.

00:37:24:12 – 00:37:34:22
Actually, Ricky, I'll tell you that. Right. Okay. And I'll also just want to thrown out grenades. The US office is better than the UK office.

00:37:34:24 – 00:37:53:12
By mile. Can you, can you just, end the podcast now? Is it just is it just is. It's just better. It's. You might. You don't know fucking nothing. I thought you knew stuff. You know nothing. I'm not. You'll just get you'll want to just toe the line. It's fine. I know what you're doing. I'm not. I'm not doing.

00:37:53:13 – 00:38:12:00
You know what I ain't? I ain't being contrary. If you want me. These are what those are. My. But I don't I don't want, I don't I don't this thing I don't want I don't want anything is loose is to get caught up in this. Because these other two points I'm about to make, all are ones that shouldn't be connected to only four sources.

00:38:12:00 – 00:38:39:03
So I love only fools noses. So I'm just saying there were five better, British sitcoms than that, right? What I'm also saying is The Office is the most overrated show in the history of television. And if I have to watch one of two offices, it's definitely the US version. After the first, I. You think The Office is overrated in your in your mind because everyone loves it and you're like that guy that it's like whenever it's popular, you buck the trend.

00:38:39:05 – 00:38:58:23
I had the DVD some it's popular on Netflix. You'd watched it two weeks ago, you know. But, so it was coming in all those what it's like people who also like, constantly doing office quotes to each other and that because you get involved. Yeah. The left out. I know, you know, it's not that I'm not full.

00:38:59:00 – 00:39:20:19
It's like it's it's not funny enough to do what you're doing. And it's everywhere, in my opinion, everywhere. Like people, you could you could meet someone, you would meet someone a night out. If you both know the office and drop one in love, you'd be best mates for that night, which is great thing, but it just shows you how anything that's that popular, how bland it really is.

00:39:20:21 – 00:39:40:02
That is a ridiculous statement. First of all, are you saying that you try to read my Saturday like, come on, it's not that bad, not bad. It's fucking that bit. I hate that it's probably my most hated bit out of all the office. It's like when I meet someone and we're talking about music and I say, oh, oh, favorite band away?

00:39:40:04 – 00:40:00:09
My me today. Yeah, I love Wonderwall. Farkle. Yeah. My course. Yeah. You know face. Yeah, I, yeah, I just think it's all right. I just it's it's so it was interesting what I really liked about it, but it's broadcast and we're talking about 25 years ago now and it around 2000. So like 2001. Yeah. Yeah yeah.

00:40:00:10 – 00:40:26:22
Yeah. Exactly. That was that my I was at my first job. Let's go 99 did some A-levels, quit those after three months and then went into full time work. And when I was working in this warehouse, people were talking about this program called The Office, and nobody could understand what they were watching. And people saying, people are acting, it's made up and they're like, no, it's just they're just following people is really interesting.

00:40:27:02 – 00:40:51:19
No one could work out what was going on. And I watched it and I was like, it's just not filming me at work. I don't understand why everyone's talking about it. And it wasn't until quite a few years later, that I rewatched it. And then I got what was happening, which is really clever. Yeah. Like, I like the, I like the that that was really interesting, that mockumentary style approach to it before it was great.

00:40:51:21 – 00:41:13:00
But of all the work that Ricky Gervais has done, it's not the funniest. But extras is is so much more funny than The Office. Extras is, then and then all our clothes fell off and I saw everything.

00:41:13:02 – 00:41:27:14
That was that will never not make me laugh so much. And he's sitting there going, yeah, oh yeah. And then all the clothes were off and I just. And I saw everything.

00:41:27:16 – 00:42:04:14
And it's just, I just think he's better. I just think it's better. That's bad. And Dwight, that's, What an opinion. Dwight is a better, you know, antihero than the Gareth. Yeah, I think he can say like, Dwight is. He's a great character, but, yeah, I, I we're just we're I think we'll, agree to disagree with the American and UK office, but what I do, what I just, I have to, I have to go back to any thoughts because I feel like I have to try and, defend it some more.

00:42:04:16 – 00:42:35:24
The amount of the amount of people that have modeled their lives on a character as Doughboy, not it isn't. That's how I that's how iconic the show is. And, that character, he. I love Doughboy. He is like, he's one of the one of the greatest. Well, what is it do you think about Doughboy, where you see, like, when we used to go out like everyone not dressed a bit like Doughboy or acted like him, and everyone's a bit of a Wheeler dealer.

00:42:36:01 – 00:42:55:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see characters like him in the pub where we grew up. Less so now, because I kind of feel like that the traditional Cockney element is sort of just being diluted and dying in, in London, but, cockneys going in, I. Dine out does feel great. Yeah. Well, you've listened to how people talking in London now.

00:42:55:22 – 00:43:18:19
It's not it isn't like a Cockney accent, which is a shame for me anyway, because that's part of my growing up. But wherever you walk around in London, where I grew up in north London, there isn't anything I sort of recognize. Is traditionally London really any more? And that's fine, because things change. There wasn't always Cockney accents in London.

00:43:18:21 – 00:43:30:03
But just in terms of growing up that well, well, what other accents he's saying. He said there were other accents taking over. That's not even the same language, is it?

00:43:30:05 – 00:43:52:09
Yeah. No, no, no, I mean, like, if you if you I mean, I'm all for multiculturalism, right? I've no issue with it. It's important. I mean, look at all of the incredible food and experiences you can have in London. It's all down to the the make up, the melting pot that London is. And it's amazing. It's great.

00:43:52:11 – 00:44:16:06
But in Haringey, where I, where I grew up, there's something like 200 different languages spoken, which is, that is mental, isn't it? And just a tiny little area. So only for noses. Reminds me of the pubs I. But my dad used to take me to, you know, in the when I was a kid or leave me outside of mortar point really of lemonade and Chris.

00:44:16:06 – 00:44:41:09
So the the, Yeah. No, I get it. He's it's an incredibly and also crushing as well. It being funny. Yeah. Absolutely crushing. Like just what was it the bit where he gets beat up for Rodney. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Because Rodney was saying yeah. Woman. Yeah. And then her fella was away in prison. Yes. In Broadmoor.

00:44:41:11 – 00:45:07:24
And, he comes home and then he, he, this geezer, this hot geezer, he thinks Rodney he thinks del is Rodney. And this is, you know, is older brother takes an absolute shoeing for him. Yeah, but, yeah, there's loads of different things like that. And, when and then in the, the, the kind of more modern episodes Rodney and, Cassandra trying for a baby and they lose it.

00:45:08:01 – 00:45:27:13
And that is really it's such a heartbreaking episode. So I just, I just so number one viewer, I need to. Yeah. Yeah, it has to be number one for me. It has to be what? So if you. But right now, if I said to you. Right, you can watch out for us and this is an episode of that or we can watch an episode of Peep Show.

00:45:27:15 – 00:45:39:18
Right. I know you got a date or, we can talk about for you. Well, let me just give you a couple more, or I'm Alan Partridge or.

00:45:39:20 – 00:46:04:24
I. I haven't really thought this through this country. Okay? I think I might have a big shock, but this is a this is my point is, is it is heritage, right. That is gold standard British TV and British sitcom. But in terms of what you just enjoy watching more the other these other shows are better I think the more palatable.

00:46:05:01 – 00:46:29:20
Yeah. I, I was going to make a point that you don't see shows like any of those anymore. You don't see shows that like the British sitcom how we used to like 2.4 children that that type. And there isn't anything like that that goes on anymore. But then when you're talking about, this country, how how old was I, I'd say about in the last ten years in the, the latest that they did three, 2 or 3 series.

00:46:29:20 – 00:46:53:12
I think we've in the last ten years, I can't remember I can tell you I can't. Yeah. And they just did nothing didn't it. Didn't get the I don't think this country gets the accolades that it deserves. Like people I won it might have been won BAFTAs. I am so saying it's that good. But I think generally people don't talk about it and hold it up as some of the best British sitcom trophies because it's new.

00:46:53:14 – 00:47:17:15
I think. Pound for pound. Yeah, it might be the funniest show I've ever seen. Wow, that's that is a statement. That old Peep show probably put that. But this country's so, so up there. It's the fact that people say like Peep Show, I'm Alan Partridge, it's they it's up there with that. In my opinion. If you if you sat down and watched it or if you just caught bits here and there.

00:47:17:17 – 00:47:37:03
No, no, I've sat down and watched it. You have. Yeah. I feel like maybe I should revisit it because I did really enjoy it. Like that bit where you see the bit where she sort of there's this Keyser sort of a bit under the weather, and he's going through some bad times that. So she donates him a PlayStation three, she gives him the PlayStation three and he just.

00:47:37:03 – 00:47:56:01
Yeah. That, that that's right. I mean yeah. And then he looks he opens the door and he's looking. It's like she's made this big thing about donating her PlayStation three to this geezer who's not a kid. He's like, I don't know, in his 30s. And and she goes, there you go. Is that. And he just looks at it, closes the bag and just takes it inside.

00:47:56:01 – 00:48:17:18
And he's so crestfallen that he's not grateful that she wants the PlayStation. But it's great stuff. Great stuff, doesn't he thought it did. He thought it died in real life, I think, Marcus, he's named slugs. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he had he had some condition. I think he put. Yeah. He died in 2019.

00:48:17:20 – 00:48:46:23
I said, yeah. Before we move on Peepshow, we can't go. And not to like, Peep Show, but goes Peep Show, one of the first programs to do like, that point of view. Yes. Yeah. I got you got to say, not the first time ever. Yeah. Because like I was saying with, what was the other show I just mentioned that was like kind of at the forefront of it.

00:48:46:23 – 00:49:09:06
I can't remember now, but Peep Show watching that back. Oh, obviously. I remember when I first moved down to London and I got kicked out my dad's and I was living with you and, we, we used to get high and, can you say on this why you. I don't remember you getting kicked out of what? You chose to leave.

00:49:09:08 – 00:49:37:10
No, I didn't choose to leave. So, I was with my dad and my dad's partner, and I was living there in the spare room. And when I had gone down to move to that spare room that I was told that my dad's partner's niece was actually going to be living in that spare room. But whilst she wasn't in London at that time.

00:49:37:12 – 00:49:58:08
But I could have that spare room. And then it became apparent within the three months, I didn't even think I was there for that that long. That the niece that was originally going to be taking the room was now taking the room, and I needed to get out and find somewhere else to go. So then I moved out and I had nowhere to go.

00:49:58:08 – 00:50:20:08
So I'm in Libya, and the niece never materialized. And they then he never I mean, the niece exists, but the niece never moved in with them. It was just like, let's get this weed smoking fucking cretin out of our house. When you say you come to live with me, it was only a couple of weeks. It felt like three weeks or three weeks.

00:50:20:10 – 00:50:40:21
But those are great. Three weeks? Yeah. It's great to smoke weed and watch telly. Yeah. So I was on the, put out, say, if I use it and we just sit on the pullout. So far, what? We were watching Peep Show, we watched, and I. And I had no idea because you had this, Well, you hadn't seen Peep Show before that point?

00:50:40:23 – 00:50:55:23
No, I didn't know about it. I think you would go to work and I'd see your flag, and, I'll tell you what. You peep show on my own. Yeah, because you and you will catch up. And I didn't know. What. Not that we didn't have cat chat, but it was on a different kind of platform.

00:50:56:02 – 00:51:16:08
And now a TV or something like that, but, Yeah. And, just, I never I didn't know what Peep Show was. And then where I was living and you were like, this is where we catch the bus, you know, the beginning bit, the intro. Yeah. It's filmed in crowd. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, it was, electrical shop.

00:51:16:10 – 00:51:49:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not sick, but I'm not. Well, they. It's so good. What's your favorite when you think of Peep Show. What the immediately what scene do you think of? It's good. It has to be the, where the, taking Jeremy. I think it's big Sue's soup hands. Someone else can't remember. They're taking mushrooms, having a mushroom pot in the front room, and Jeremy locks Mark in his bedroom and doses him up because he's ill, I think.

00:51:49:10 – 00:52:09:13
And then, yeah, he doesn't want to bring the meat down, so drugs him. It is drugs. We've always. It was supposed to. Nothing. That's because he didn't want him ruining the vibe. Because he wanted to sleep. Because he's.

00:52:09:15 – 00:52:33:13
That's right. And then, Mark can't get. It's better because he's locked in. And then, because. Alan, to help him out. I don't know if he calls out until Matt or if Alan coincidentally turns up. But anyway, Mark is desperate to go for a shit. And, previous in that episode, the bathroom door has been knocked out and other will tripping on mushrooms.

00:52:33:15 – 00:52:58:19
Mark is taking a shit, but he is incredibly ill. And then Alan pops in and he looks at Mark. Is that is that normal pooing Mark because he hates him, but he feels that he is not normal. Poo doesn't smell like normal food. Doesn't sound like normal poo. Mark you ill? No, no no I'm not. What? He's at decimate.

00:52:58:20 – 00:53:11:14
He's been terrible. But that that is one of my. Yeah, that's that's probably top tier. What about yourself? I.

00:53:11:16 – 00:53:51:22
I just, I, I think the whole scene where they take who's it Jeremy to get sectioned and Mark and Jeremy trying to section each other. Yeah. It's actually me. By God. I'll take him. You. This is everyone. Calm down. No one's getting sanctioned. Thank you for that. I can section their mates if you try to. Or. I think when Jeremy's trying to get, doing a job interview but doesn't want the job, but has to show Mark that he's trying to get a job because Mark's paying the rent and he's doing terribly, but he thinks he's doing brilliantly.

00:53:51:24 – 00:54:09:20
And then he goes in because you're hearing of the whole point of peep shows. You hear their inner monologue all the time, and he goes, oh my God, I'm bloody swinging this because let me do something to derail it. And he looks at a woman out of nowhere and just does the most mental face and then goes back to normal.

00:54:09:20 – 00:54:24:12
And Mark's looking at anyways, what was that? What was what? That face. You didn't. I didn't do a face so good again, I have a facial feature. You know he doesn't have a face.

00:54:24:14 – 00:54:53:14
It's not, isn't it? Yeah. Or I think guni I think oh fuck. Have a, let's have a go with Gudni. I think that's. Yeah, I think about that a lot. But it's a combination between incredible writing, very, very funny stuff, but also captivating watching because even the scenes and when they're doing the build up work, when it isn't funny, is still completely watchable.

00:54:53:16 – 00:55:17:21
Yeah. And I think the characters, despite the gags, all you that like the characters of, Jeremy and Mark, they're both so opposing in their ways and how they conduct themselves that they almost like it. It works them like living together and being like the their mates, but they're not mates, you know? I mean, because one of them is an utter bastard.

00:55:17:22 – 00:55:38:09
Never. When I say straight, they eat. But listen, Jeremy Kyle isn't he? He he is utterly vile. But it works, though. It's the kind of, the relationship does work, and they, they kind of, care about each other like Jeremy is a fucking bastard. Is eat.

00:55:38:11 – 00:56:01:14
My favorite interaction, remember? It's got to be. It's got to be the turkey. It's like, what did you get the turkey? Jeremy? Yeah. I thought you were getting it. What? No. No turkey. Jeremy. No turkey. You fucking crescent. Yeah. What do you mean? What are you, fucking asshole?

00:56:01:16 – 00:56:25:18
What are we gonna say? Videos? Of course I've got a turkey. I've a I got the I got an organic. Yeah, and a week. Oh, right. You fucking. Oh. So you fucking crazy brilliant night before that, you know, David Mitchell, was he an actor before that? Let's. I know they worked together for a long time. How does he,

00:56:25:20 – 00:56:41:15
Right. I dunno if Mitchell and web show appeared, but before that, nor after them, but because it. Yeah. Just seems like, he was just, I dunno for me is like, it felt like he that's was his first kind of acting role and now he's just kind of gone on to he's not like a stand up comedian isn't.

00:56:41:15 – 00:57:07:11
No, I ain't even right. And it was him they met at university. I think they went to Oxford or Cambridge or something. And Right. Yeah. They I think they wrote that together. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not entirely sure, but yeah, my peep show up there and, for a second. Sucking fuck. But it's gone from being total the teetotaler to super handy to generate this.

00:57:07:11 – 00:57:26:19
I mean, the thing is, unless you watch this, none of this makes sense. But if you have watched it and I'll. And I just say, well, twins, you didn't know I had twins. Oh, I know you guys. You show it, you guys, it let me show you a picture of the twins. And he's like, I think Mark's good twins, but you never mentioned your children because.

00:57:26:19 – 00:57:40:22
Well, I've never mentioned the twins are the twins. Let me show you. And he's, looking on his phone. He's got, no orange of delete it must delete the twins. I'll never forgive orange if I delete the twins on.

00:57:40:24 – 00:58:02:01
I need to go. I desperately need to go back. And what's the problem with it? Any criticism would be that it kind of felt like it went for too long. Like I would say between 5 and 4 or five. Season 4 or 5, it just got a bit silly. Whereas the older the first few seasons were just grounded in reality.

00:58:02:03 – 00:58:22:07
There are many. Yeah, yeah, grounded in reality that the bit when the bit they kind of jumped the shark moment into peep for me is when they took the dog on the canal boat. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it is. It's kind of funny, but this is not what we've experienced. What why are you doing. It was two out there.

00:58:22:09 – 00:58:42:04
Yeah. No, no I get that, I get that. And there is a part as well where they had where the filming and you're waiting for the next series. And I think there was quite a big delay. And when the next series came out. Yeah. So you had to wait and it kind of like lost, momentum before you jump in.

00:58:42:06 – 00:58:51:23
And we didn't even cover in between is not just cool, we still can. We can I just, can I just play just for gets the turkey clip? Yeah. Going.

00:58:52:00 – 00:59:17:01
Where's the turkey? Jeremy. What the turkey. Where's the turkey? I thought you were getting the turkey. You want no turkey, you fucking idiot. Jeremy, you took a fucking idiot. That was your job, you fucking moron. You cretin. You're a fuckhead, that's what you are, a fucking shithead. It was a joke. I was joking, it was a Christmas joke.

00:59:17:03 – 00:59:48:09
I see. Oh, of course I've got a turkey. It's an organic turkey. I took ages researching it online. It's going to be delicious, by the way. I love The Inbetweeners as well. I think again, again, I think it's downplayed because it's quite crude, but it's actually genius. Yeah. Oh, I the thing is, right, with Inbetweeners, when I first saw advertised, I was immediately captivated with it because it had a pot geezer in the pocket jacket and that motorcar.

00:59:48:09 – 00:59:55:21
And I was like, yeah, that's definitely going to be what I want to watch. Yeah. And.

00:59:55:23 – 01:00:35:07
Like you said about the kind of toilet humor, lads, but, there was a and that is in a nutshell that is completely and utterly my sense of humor. And I think if men were honest, that's a lot of their sense of humor as well. Yeah, yeah. But I think there is a kind of a disservice that gets thrown at it, because it's a lot of it is about like young adolescent boys navigating their way into, you know, adulthood and the kind of insecurities and sensitivities and stuff like that that never gets kind of brought up.

01:00:35:07 – 01:00:55:23
And it is always about the funny scenes in it, which, I mean, there are fucking loads in there. The yeah, the it's the are some parts where you just the you cannot breathe because they're so funny. It's like the fit when the, they're on the, they're in the boat in the harbor, on the boat. When the fish comes in he punches the fish.

01:00:55:23 – 01:01:17:18
It is like a salmon. It's like, it's so funny. And you, you can't help but, like, it's so ridiculous. It's so funny. Jay. The fish lines in the boat, you know, like, why would you do that? And he. And there's this shark in the body needs to start fucking punching the shit out of these fish that they've obviously just picked up from the local fishmonger.

01:01:17:20 – 01:01:43:09
And, Jay lets off a flare in the middle, and then you're like, where are they? And they're in the middle of the hub. Is how good do you think it would be that that show would be written and be would it be aired today so that so that's, you know, there's a lot of talk. Yeah, there's a lot of talk when they talk to the actors of The Inbetweeners.

01:01:43:09 – 01:02:06:09
And they said they probably would do another show, but they probably couldn't do it in the way that they wanted to because of in fear of being, canceled and not politically correct and stuff. So, but I think in those instances where it's a TV show, that's when you can do those things. And it is that kind of I wonder if they've been brave enough to write it.

01:02:06:11 – 01:02:33:07
Yeah, there's loads of gay stuff in there, like gay jokes. Tons. Yeah. Like about Neil Neil's dad, about him being gay. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then there's that, that and talk about that outright misogyny of JJ Cartwright. Yeah. You know, I know you could kind of like I think I said this at the end of last week's show, but he's you kind of he get away with it because his character is so ridiculous.

01:02:33:09 – 01:03:01:08
He's so stupid and and really kind of though he's very vulnerable and sensitive. He's also like stupid. So it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, look, this is what people that talk like this are like, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe get away with that. But isn't it. Do you think it's a shame. Yeah I do, I do think it's a shame really, because, it put me and lots of other people so much joy.

01:03:01:08 – 01:03:34:00
And maybe because, you know, at that time, if, you were to, you know, you were watching that and of that time there wasn't this, you know, thing looming over you about cancellation and what you can and can't say in it. Maybe that's a good thing now. Not, you know, that we are more selective in what we choose to watch and why we wouldn't watch something because it plays on and it's punching down on a certain kind of demographic or whatever.

01:03:34:02 – 01:04:00:15
So there are those parts. But if I was to watch something now, that was like The Inbetweeners, it's it's, you know, it's my sense of humor. I haven't changed since 20 years ago, ten years ago, the stuff that they did and said I would still find funny, I think I'm being honest. It's just it pushed, pushed the envelope and it was risky and it was.

01:04:00:17 – 01:04:30:09
It didn't care if it was offensive. And I think we've become so sensitive as a society now that this sort of stuff isn't going to be made because it wouldn't be commissioned or wouldn't be written in the first place for fear of wasting your time, even though tons and tons and tons of people would still appreciate it. It's just it's it's a dangerous world that we've sort of walked willingly into where people can't write jokes about things that they think they're funny for fear of being strung up.

01:04:30:11 – 01:05:01:04
And that's a real shame for comedy, I think. Well, what do you feel about, airing stuff that went out years ago that is not PC now or not, you know, kind of, there's there's I don't know what series it was. There's an episode that if you were watching it on Netflix that they've removed completely because there was something in that episode that was deemed inappropriate in this era.

01:05:01:06 – 01:05:23:20
Yes. I don't know what exactly I remember a story about. Yeah. And it's like, you can't you. So you cannot watch the show in its complete sense or how it's intended to be watched because of this entire remove, they haven't removed the scene. They removed the whole episode or something like that. What was your question? So I so it was like along the lines of, yeah.

01:05:23:20 – 01:05:51:20
So, but the example I was going to go with Only Fools and Horses, there is a specific episode where Dale mentions about going to a certain corner shop. Yeah. And it would refer to it in that manner. Yeah. It is. And like, would it be are we right to be like, you know what, let's not show that anymore because we don't want people to pick it up and yeah, run with that's how the language we use.

01:05:51:20 – 01:06:16:02
Or is it more of a this is historical. This was shot in the 80s. We don't speak of it anymore. But, you know, this was I would be fine with it being muted as he said it. I don't I wouldn't be offended if that, if I saw that or if they used like the f word to describe gay people, which is, you know, horrendous, right?

01:06:16:02 – 01:06:38:10
Yeah. The N-word, for obvious reasons. I wouldn't have any issue like, was it, upstairs, downstairs? Maybe it was. Some of us do have them. There is from an, you know, the 70s there was a lot of racist stuff like. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't quite the N-word. I don't think you'd hear other things like sort of Sambo and spade and these words that are used to.

01:06:38:15 – 01:06:59:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And luckily you don't. And so if they were replaying that I would, I wouldn't, I wouldn't see any harm at all. And it wouldn't take anything away from the artistic integrity if you just muted him, because the potential damage of that is more important than the gag in that moment on dimension. But then you could say the same for Inbetweeners.

01:06:59:04 – 01:07:23:04
Maybe it shouldn't exist because it did reinforce sort of gay jokes and make it fun and made it sort of because, you know, don't doubt what you see on channel four. If you see it on channel four, you think this is acceptable and maybe, yeah, gay jokes aren't acceptable. Maybe, maybe you sort of hankering after a time where, you know, you were able to make TV shows without the fear of being canceled.

01:07:23:04 – 01:07:50:12
But did those shows contribute to, like, a culture where people were attacked, even physically or mentally or verbally? Maybe it did make it did make it worse. And yeah, I think like that point, like you just said on channel four, and if it's on mainstream that it's kind of that it's okay to say these words or to treat, you know, certain, people in that way.

01:07:50:12 – 01:08:11:01
But how would you feel that you're making me that I'm a white guy. You're an Indian. How would you feel when you sort what with the P word? Yeah. It's certainly, stuck in the throat. It was like it. Even when I hear that now, it's still a bit like, fuck you. Now that's a bit too much.

01:08:11:01 – 01:08:29:11
So would you prefer to be muted in the show? Yeah, I probably would actually. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I think so. Yeah it would be. And that's it that isn't it. But then by me and it do you, do you bring even more attention to it. What was that word. What does that mean. It. That's why it's like the F-word in,

01:08:29:13 – 01:08:45:13
Yeah. Maiden. Yeah. Well, you just say a really bad word. No, I think it's fine. You say it's a really bad word. We don't say anymore. And that's why I have muted it. Yeah. And then if they ask the words you say what is this word. And this is why it's so horrendous and hurtful. Or they use it as an opportunity to, you know, and educate.

01:08:45:13 – 01:09:08:08
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, in terms of like kids now, like I and my, you know, two step kids lives when they were four and six and they're so conscious of these words, how loaded they are. That's been drilled into them from a very young age through the school system that you can't say these words. Yeah. And they and they never have.

01:09:08:10 – 01:09:30:17
Whereas we grown up, we just say stuff all the time. All the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all kinds of stuff. Like when I was a kid that was the, you know, the it would be common for us to use just silly words basically damage. Yeah. Yeah. Oh for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly the same. Me growing up as well, but with my.

01:09:30:19 – 01:09:48:17
Yeah, my girls, my clothes are in a very kind of multicultural school. Anyway, so was I am so, so so the. Oh yeah. You were in primary school not to grow as a teenager. We said not because it's very you learn very quick in school. My secondary school was if you were racist to anybody it was not great.

01:09:48:19 – 01:10:13:14
You didn't last very long. No, no you were very, very it was a physical reaction to any racist and severe way. Yeah I imagine say and fun. You know that's fine. Yeah. I'm, I'm a big proponent of you can say what you like as long as you, you appreciate there's going to be consequences. And that's exactly that's the thing with a lot of free speech.

01:10:13:14 – 01:10:32:05
Like everyone goes on about free speech. And yeah, of course you are the issue of free will to say those things, but understand that there will be a reaction. You know, there will be a pint glass that may, you know, like, oh yeah, hey, you're being racist to someone. And that is so you're free to say it, but understand that things will happen to you.

01:10:32:05 – 01:11:04:05
And so they should. Yeah. Right. Should we, go on to dilemmas and something and you know, so the dilemma for this week is who is fucking me? And something only you know is few. It's only Stephen. The topic for next week is that one of the largest sent in punishment. Punishment as a kid groundings the slipper. Yeah.

01:11:04:05 – 01:11:31:03
Wooden spoon. Good. Fucking got a few of those Victorian punishment whips, canes back, that kind of stuff. And punishment today it's totally frowned upon. Yeah. Interesting. No no, no, no slaps across the back of the legs. No. Like, I don't know. I walk across the bum if kids are misbehaving, you know, all way too lenient. It's that kind of stuff.

01:11:31:03 – 01:11:55:18
And then which this is the one that really kind of, got me, juices going. The death penalty, a capital punishment. That's good. I'm gonna. Should we bring it back? Yeah, I think you should. They also, let people send in the worst types of punishment. Torture? Yes, yes. What was it? The. I think it's called the the steaming bowl.

01:11:55:18 – 01:12:23:13
That sounds like. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought I remember, I remember when I went to, on holiday to Spain, to Alicante, and I went to a castle there, and they had one of the torture things there, and they told us what the how the person was tortured. I'll tell in next week's show some of them, but so but it was that fucking hour and I'm just sitting there looking at it.

01:12:23:15 – 01:12:48:13
If you've got any thing, any stories you want to submit for our punishment episode, that will happen next week on torture or anything, send it into lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read out and we're going to jump to dilemmas. Oh. So, just tired. You got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad cause pain will teach you.

01:12:48:15 – 01:13:07:09
Aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Ricky. Flat. Yeah. Let that stress of your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to be like you're safe here to get nice and warm between Ricky and then.

01:13:07:11 – 01:13:10:22

01:13:10:24 – 01:13:36:17
Who is fucking me? I up, lads, I'll get straight to it. I need some advice. Or maybe I just need to write this down to get it off my chest. I have a very serious job that involves me investigating criminals. I can't go into more details than that. It's disappointing. Yeah, I'm fairly new to the role and I'm just finding my feet, but for the most part I love it.

01:13:36:19 – 01:14:03:16
However, last week I received an email saying I was being interviewed for gross misconduct. I can't go into detail as to it other than the allegations state I used my position for personal gain. It also states this has come from a colleague. It's complete tosh and I haven't done it, so I'm sure the allegation will just go away after the interview.

01:14:03:18 – 01:14:27:13
My issue is I work in a very small team of four people, and now I know one has lied about me and to get me fired, it is eating me up because I have to sit in a room with these people, knowing one of them is a cunt. I'm fucking, I'm a fucking a lovely person and to everyone and have no idea why they do this.

01:14:27:15 – 01:14:53:08
I keep myself to myself and God forbid, I hope it isn't a racing. Being the only person of color on my team. My question is what the fuck do I do? Should I keep going into work knowing someone fucking hates on me? Or should I ask for a transfer away? But knowing if I did that they've won and got me off the team.

01:14:53:12 – 01:15:03:14
Sorry. I know it's a long one, but it's eating me alive. I work hard to get to where I am and without the job I'd be fucked financially.

01:15:03:16 – 01:15:27:15
I think First Gear Bros am always straight away. Straight up. Just clear it straight up. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Do it. I don't know. I feel like there's more to the story that we're not being told. Lies where the gross misconduct sounds like a really serious thing. Yeah. What is the charge? What? What have you been accused of doing and what was the motive to get you off?

01:15:27:15 – 01:15:51:09
It's not this IT race, but even if it is race, was you still there, still in this room with these people? Also, what's the fallout if it's clear that you haven't done it? What is it? The police. What the police going to do to fix this situation? Because they can't leave you in the same team. So I would speak to your superiors and say, look, I'm in this situation.

01:15:51:09 – 01:16:07:07
I've been accused of doing this, that something I haven't done. But now I've got a small team and one of them is accuse me of doing something terrible, try to upend my career, change my life, and I don't know which one it is. So how I can be left in this situation, can I? Or I shouldn't even have to.

01:16:07:12 – 01:16:27:01
It should be at the forefront of their minds anyway. Yeah, they should have said like, you know, I, I kind of robust protocol to go down, but I'll do the interview. And obviously when you're acquitted of it, to say that, you know, you've told us that you haven't done it. So I hope there are, you know, a quid.

01:16:27:03 – 01:17:06:19
But after that I would find out who made the complaint. And if they don't tell you who made the complaint, I would just have a team meeting and probably have your line manager there, as well as to try and get to the bottom of what's what's going on. And if if you're doing something in particular, maybe you're working in a small room before people and you keep farting and you just think you stink in a place and people just find it acceptable, or your, I don't know, doing something might be bringing microwave food into a really small office and it's just pissing everyone off.

01:17:06:21 – 01:17:30:11
I don't know, but you have to work with these people every single fucking day, and you spend more time with these people than you do with your loved ones. And if you've worked really hard to get to this position and you don't want to let it go and you don't want to be driven out, you have to get to the bottom of why this person has got something against you.

01:17:30:13 – 01:18:05:09
And yeah, it's I mean, it's really failure. It's a problem of your superiority. And you I think. Yeah, I would what I would do is I would probably escalate or after this is all black, I would escalate this further and ask them to understand what the, procedures are put in place to, to kind of, manage this or to ask them to kind of manage the situation as and get to the bottom of why this has happened.

01:18:05:11 – 01:18:26:02
But you can't go any any further, any more further into that. But best of luck with that one. That seems like a fucking sticky situation. It's a sticky one still. Yeah, boy, let's go into something only, you know, something, you know.

01:18:26:04 – 01:18:57:24
You. It's only Stephen subscriber and or download here that I think I was about 10 or 11 and had just discovered the joys of self pleasure and was going at it with considerable frequency. But young 10 or 11. One day I was out in the car with my mum. She needed to pop to the shops. On the way home she parked in the car park of the church we went to, which is right by the local shopping center.

01:18:58:01 – 01:19:26:11
I couldn't be bothered going around the shops so I said I'd wait in the car. My mum left and I estimated I'd about 15 to 20 minutes before she got back. Easily enough time, so decided to have a wank in the back seat of my mum's car located outside outside the church in broad daylight. Good. I shrank down into the seat below the window line, unzipped myself.

01:19:26:13 – 01:19:54:24
I've got started at this point. Will introduce another character, one of our fellow churchgoers, a chap we'll call Stephen. Stephen had a mild learning disability who's a really lovely man, very friendly and always smiling. One of life's innocence, to coin a phrase. Anyway, back to the car. I was mid tug with my eyes closed when there was a loud rapping on the window.

01:19:55:01 – 01:20:18:16
I looked up and half pulled my trousers up in a panic, terrified it was my mum. Or worse still, an angry churchgoer or member of the public. I looked up and there was Stephen, a big smiling face waving to me. I waved back, then he walked off, mortified, but incredibly grateful. It wasn't my mum or an outrage local.

01:20:18:18 – 01:20:47:01
I put myself away. I don't know if Stephen realized what I was up to when he knocked on the window. He never said anything and I certainly wasn't going to ask. About ten years ago I heard that Stephen sadly passed away. So now that is definitely something only I and I did. Yeah, that is good. That I mean, like, I hadn't read that last bit of the sentence about Stephen say, yeah.

01:20:47:01 – 01:21:09:19
And I was it was a great wanking story. And now now we're it we're sad for Stephen replaced. Yeah. Good, good bad. I mean, he's crazy like, I, I like I mean, I spoke about this on the podcast. I, you know, who the young man was, not you. Not so young anymore. But I would not be, thrashing in broad daylight.

01:21:09:21 – 01:21:14:22
I know he's saying he's 1011, you know, I mean, I.

01:21:14:24 – 01:21:45:04
I mean, outside doing that in public. You get arrested for that, can't you. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You cannot I, I think you should white like that. Right. I mean have you ever seen that clip. This is mad clip of, someone's on the like the they're on the underground, but it's parked up at an overground station and everyone's off the tube or like, yeah, everyone's off the train and some guy, it's just got it.

01:21:45:04 – 01:22:05:19
Like he's just got his dick out and he's just wanking over his phone. Looking at something, it's not all the lights are on and someone's filming and then knocks on the window and he looks up, smiles and pulls everything back out. It's like you want to get caught. It's crazy. Crazy. Like, they you get people that blackmail you, so they'll record your they'll get into your webcam and they're recorded wanking.

01:22:05:19 – 01:22:22:22
And then they send it to your Facebook friends. And that. What? Yeah. What would you do if they said, oh, we want 1,000 pounds or we're going to send this to everybody on your Facebook. I would be enough.

01:22:22:24 – 01:22:44:17
So there's been quite a few cases that, you know, there's been a few now sent in about this that that's happened to them. And we've read run out for something on a unit which was fucking mental. Yeah. That was crazy. That one. Yeah. I mean, first of all, if I hadn't heard about all these other people's circumstances, I would have paid the money.

01:22:44:19 – 01:23:04:19
But now, listening to other people's experience, what was it that you. I'd be like, fuck it. Fight. Send it, send it. What is it like? Yeah, like if I saw a picture of you whacking one off, I wasn't. Yeah. Think anything of you? I would think, oh, that's quite funny. But yeah, it's I, I wouldn't like fucking less of you, I wouldn't think.

01:23:04:19 – 01:23:25:11
Yeah. I don't know, like, I think it'd be the hurtful comments of all these techniques about. Yeah. Well, why are you doing that? Yeah. This is like one bullet bigger than the other. Why is he completely naked, lying down on newspaper? These fake for? That's a new.

01:23:25:13 – 01:23:43:09
Yeah, sure. Yeah. And, but, Yeah. Let it run, man. Fucking let it go. Because a lot of the time that people that they say that they actually don't know, that they don't have the evidence, but if it's just like, just do it, I don't give a fuck. They don't bother doing it because they know they're not going to get any money, and it's just fucking useless anyway.

01:23:43:11 – 01:24:12:01
Right next week again, the topic is punishment. Punishment as a kid that you had, whether it was groundings or the physical, you know, getting a slipper, wooden spoon or whatever, the punishments, as the years have gone on from the victim Victorian era to today, where it's very lean in and you're not allowed to give your kids a slap anymore, finishing up the main one, the death penalty, a capital punishment.

01:24:12:03 – 01:24:30:18
Should we still have it in America? They still do. Should we bring it back to Britain? Or should we have a kind of a a halfway house type of punishment where, I don't know, breaking people's legs is punishment I don't know. Well, we're you know, we're spitballing on the pot. So tune in next Monday. And until then, we'll see you then.