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#91 | Football | Is It Really The Be All And End All?

Kanye West’s new song: Is he a troll? Flav’s not having Swifties, playing the audience game, and, of course, football. Do we still love the game as much as we did?

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Full Episode Transcript

00:00:00:02 – 00:00:05:19
They don't understand what I say on Twitter.

00:00:05:21 – 00:00:27:09
Yeah, I was just I literally I forgot I forgot you. We just clicked record then and I was just about to sing along and, well, when you were alone, what are you saying? I am alone. Yeah, when no one's around. No, I don't say, I don't say it, I don't either. Little bit, a little bit.

00:00:27:10 – 00:00:52:03
The thing is, is it? I say, well, I don't say both words. I'll just say one of the words. So we've got a mutual friend of ours. His name is a comic. His name's James Regal. Right? And or James Regal. And he came out of a bit on almost as soon as he. And he did a bit of stand up around it, and he's like, okay, like the N-word is censored everywhere.

00:00:52:05 – 00:01:12:14
But the crux of his joke was like, why isn't how Hitler like that's that's about as taboo as thou? I would say it was. I would say the N-word and Heil Hitler. See, I'm weirdly comfortable with saying not comfortable, but I don't think I'm trying to say it. And I noticed that rolled off the tongue really easy there.

00:01:12:15 – 00:01:32:23
And like you've been saying it for a long time. Can I, can I can I prompt you to, go? And what I said, how do I find it? Let me let me find it. But I'm prompted James Regal on Twitter. Yeah. Okay, fine. James Regal, the comic and and look at it. Look at. He spit on it.

00:01:32:23 – 00:02:06:22
It was so funny, because why are we Hitler's taboo? Oh, it is pretty taboo. It is? Well, I mean, I believe it's illegal to to say that and do it in German. Yeah, in salute in Germany. So, yeah, it's it's obviously, a touchy subject over there. Yeah. But you know, when one could imagine. Now, if anyone has no idea what the fuck we're talking about, call or West or you is that is, how we think that's how we start.

00:02:06:24 – 00:02:38:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Has brought out a song, and I don't know actually what the song is called. I'm I'm I'm. You have a guess? It's definitely got Hitler in there somewhere. Surely that's how you say. But in the chorus, he says the N-word, followed by how Hitler, World War three, it's called WW free, right?

00:02:38:16 – 00:03:24:04
Okay. 11 million. So you can imagine what discussion and uproar this is having puts what's his thinking. I have no idea I think maybe there's a part of his mental wellbeing at play. I think he doesn't he suffer from what do you call it? You know, when you get mad? Highs and lows. Double bipolar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I have not been interested in Kanye West since College Dropout.

00:03:24:06 – 00:03:42:18
I couldn't give a shit. I've never, I don't I think I'm not into his music. I've never once lists. Sit down. Brilliant. I'm right. I'm right. In the mood for some Kanye West. Never in my life I actually don't understand how popular he is and why is so popular. But generally the most popular artists in the world. Boring.

00:03:42:22 – 00:04:08:11
Yeah. Master class acts like Taylor Swift. I will never understand how she's so popular, but there is this sort of cultish following of, by her Swifties. Yeah. Which, for someone who doesn't get it, is intensely grating to bear witness to really you if you find it very great. And. Yeah. Absolutely. What Swifties singing Swifties. So yeah they know like glitter.

00:04:08:11 – 00:04:31:02
Yeah, I find it great. Okay. Yeah I find it great. You the I'm I'm I'm I'm a I've approached an age now where I find those things irritating. I mean and if ain't Swifties it could easily be immigrants. Right. So what's the worst? Whoa, whoa. No, I'm sorry, I'm saying that ain't him. Yeah, I know, yeah, I'd rather it be Swifties.

00:04:31:04 – 00:04:49:01
I'm so happy, Swifties, because I have. No, I've got no issue with immigration. Oh, I think we're, we're, we're I generally think we're okay, but, so yes, I'm saying if I'm going to be angry, I've got to be angry about something, right? Because I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean, I'm in my middle ages now. What am I I'm not I hate my part.

00:04:49:02 – 00:04:59:03
My culture is being angry. Other people. That's my culture. That's my culture. Yep. So I would end Swifties getting it.

00:04:59:05 – 00:05:19:18
My point here is they're the ones that deserve it. Yeah, yeah. The point here is Ricky's I don't get that Kanye West I don't understand and I don't understand where he's coming from. And I don't understand of what his music's about. Right. But, what I do kind of. I understand that he's a troll. That's what I think.

00:05:19:20 – 00:05:39:04
I think he's just troll in the world. I think he's just thinking, fuck it, what can I get away with? I'm going to wear a Maga hat. I'm going to bat Trump. I'm going to wear a t shirt that said White Lives Matter. He's got to a stage where he's what's he got? What do you want? Money. No power, maybe influence.

00:05:39:06 – 00:06:02:17
He wants it disrupt everything. That's what it feels like. I think he looks it all as like a play. Like, oh, maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but he. I think I think wearing a Nazi symbol, he's just pushing the envelope to see what will happen. No, I, I would tend to agree with you on that one, actually.

00:06:02:17 – 00:06:24:21
Yeah. I mean, that he was I did see a clip of him with this spreadsheet and I don't know, it was a spreadsheet, but it was like this map and it had all of the directors or producers in Hollywood or something like that. And this map was predominantly red. And he said, all these names are red, all these names in red, they're all Jewish.

00:06:24:23 – 00:06:50:08
And there was like a few dotted lines of people that weren't. So he is sending for he's got an ax to grind, which is right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what where's that? Why does it, you know, why was no leave him Jew. No, I mean there is no I, I don't actually know the backstory of of why this is happening.

00:06:50:08 – 00:07:14:17
I'm and like you was saying about I think it's a mixture of that he it maybe he does feel that way about the Jewish community. I don't know I don't know the backstory, but him, he he does see himself as a one of a kind, a disrupter, whether it's hip hop, whether it's fashion, whether it's I don't know.

00:07:14:17 – 00:07:42:12
But like, he took out an advert during the Superbowl and the advert was to promote a single T-shirt on his website that was of a swastika. Yeah. I mean, like, so that's mental. He's he's mental now. Like, with all of this shit, right? We can sit here and we can laugh at the what's the word? Just how mad it is that he's doing that.

00:07:42:12 – 00:08:07:03
Yeah. And we can see that. We can see that he is just being a major troll. We can see that he's just trying to be this disruptor or whatever it is, and take it at face value. Now, do you think this then opens the door like Pandora's box to people saying, well, if you can say this shit, yeah, why can't I?

00:08:07:05 – 00:08:42:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you sort of trivializing what is very, you know, it's abhorrent. And most people it's taboo. I think there's an undercurrent of racism that was quelled for a long time by the kind of like Black Lives Matter and, these movements, and the kind of left gaining sort of power of communication, and not just left until about, like, extreme left, you know, you know, the move to prevent people from having legitimate conversations about identity politics for fear of cancellation.

00:08:42:15 – 00:08:47:20
They for, for a long time had.

00:08:47:22 – 00:09:23:13
Public decency by a stranglehold. Right. So they, they, they, prevented proper conversation for fear of loss, I said, for fear of cancellation. And so everyone was so afraid to speak for such a long time that this feeling went on the ground. When this to people's issues with, you know, with what was going on in society and how left leaning everything was, it didn't mean that the racist sentiment and the transphobic sentiment disappeared.

00:09:23:13 – 00:09:52:07
It just went underground. It grew and festered. And you look on social media sites now, racism is rampant. It is, makes mad it but it's almost become it's become a meme to be racist in on the internet so Instagrammed comments a crazy the content that's been put put out is crazy, and it comes from a comedic angle, but it's comes from legitimate racism.

00:09:52:09 – 00:10:25:10
Yeah. So yeah, I do think that this will trivialize something that shouldn't be trivialized and people will feel more comfortable saying things like how Hitler and it won't be long before the N-word becomes a bit of a joke again to people. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think you move in that direction. It's going to be it's going to be interesting because you see, you see this song being played in places in the world, and people are doing the Nazi salute, as I've just been to, Ye's Twitter account.

00:10:25:11 – 00:10:56:09
Yeah, I can go scroll through it's rich retweet in, Russell Brand because Russell Brand is, it looks like he's batting for Kanye and the song. And does it really mean that he is a sympathizer with the 1930s Nazi movement? And they certainly have about it probably doesn't mean that. But no, that's doesn't mean it isn't damaging and extremely painful for people who are who have families who live through the Holocaust to to endure.

00:10:56:10 – 00:11:26:20
And should you do that, what's your point? Is your point more significant than the damage you're causing? Probably not. No, exactly. And then there is also a video that he's retweeted and it's of a bar in Thailand. So where they, but they're playing the song and everyone's singing along to it. So this is exactly what you were saying, that people will become comfortable with saying, this is the you know, it's the thin end of the wedge, really, for me, that people are comfortable saying stuff like this.

00:11:26:22 – 00:12:19:20
It's just a song. Colin says that, you know, I can get away with it. But then how long is it until someone's some other celebrity or someone else says something even worse, and that you go down that road, down that road? And if people are saying it to be, disruptors or it's very on vogue to whatever is happening in the political scene and to make land grabs and to kind of this career vine and swinging from this post to that post, it is all about how you can gain traction and engagement by saying the most kind of, vile things whilst treading the line to gain popularity in that space.

00:12:19:20 – 00:13:00:15
So like Farage will tread the line of saying racist things or I don't know, Keir Starmer will say something knowing that a certain, demographic will react and it kind of like raises profiles and stuff. And then like under, labor at the moment or who I was, who I thought I was voting for. And a lot of the work that they're doing at the moment and stuff that they're saying, it's like this is completely at odds with what I thought the party was going to be, and it feels like they are playing too well.

00:13:00:21 – 00:13:32:09
What is leading right side of you got like, well, so it's kind of, you know, the ruling about, a woman is only a biological woman. And there was a there was another thing that came up the other day. That was it. The kind of immigration policies are going to be changing and that there's going to be a huge restriction on whether people qualify because of, education and all this other stuff.

00:13:32:11 – 00:13:55:14
But it just feels like it's more playing into because reform of, of, of started to gain traction and they've got to be stronger in it. I know, I know what you're saying. I mean, yeah, yeah. That is, that is, that is politics isn't it though isn't it. It's just you can't stay in power unless you maneuver in. And they will say, we'll give up a little bit here because we can still do great good here.

00:13:55:14 – 00:14:33:07
That'll be the messaging. Yeah. But you said but you see that in. So you've got, politicians, but you've also got maybe comedians, maybe musical actors or whatever. I noticed, you know, the, the, er coach comedian. Dapper laughs. A lot of his content is now, very right leaning. And it's kind of, everything is a joke on labor, Keir Starmer, Sadiq Khan that, you know, that kind of vibe is that.

00:14:33:07 – 00:15:06:12
And he's doing sort of he's doing kind of Men's Health as well. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. So it's probably yeah, it's probably more men's health right. But obviously for this conversation it's the political stuff. But just just on that I just found an IT party made a post earlier today which I watched. And it was Daily Mail. And this feeds into all of it because like a lot of these narratives are controlled by Daily Mail and TikTok and it makes you feel a certain way.

00:15:06:12 – 00:15:28:15
But they he fell off a golf. So he went on this. You went on a stag do with his brother, and obviously he's been teetotal for like a couple of years now. Dapper laughs. And he fell off. He fell off a golf cart anyway, so that was what the new story was about. But 70% of it was about everything that was controversial, about Dapper Laughs.

00:15:28:17 – 00:15:58:11
And then he fell off the golf trolley. Right. And the sentiment that creates when you read that article is, yeah, remember to hate this guy. And I don't like him, right. But he's not my cup of tea at all. Yeah, but what? But the the the the the way that news story was generated was pretty abhorrent. And all it does is just share this sickly ill, dark feeling about a specific subject.

00:15:58:11 – 00:16:18:04
Could be tap laughs, could be Kanye West, could be Keir Starmer or whoever it might be. And loads of people are reading it. Tons and tons and tons of people reading it. And it's in terms it's kind of swaying and creating public opinion and political opinion. There is guilty is these people that do feed off these whims.

00:16:18:06 – 00:16:45:19
But also you got to think like in America, right? Right. We got like you got Obama. People said, whatever good is bark. Yeah. Baton for the good guys in it. That's what it feels like. Yeah, yeah. Depends where you are politically. But I think that's how most people feel. And then Trump was just it was a reaction be kind of you put a black guy or mixed race guy or two heritage guy in as a president and people but on a very basic level were will not like that.

00:16:45:24 – 00:17:09:19
So they'll find the direct opposite. What's the direct opposite is Trump. So Trump gets him and then you get horrible fucking hate Trump. The other side. Yeah this is too much. Trump's crazy. Let's get Biden in. And everyone's like Biden look like he's about to die quick get Trump back here. Whereas so it was very polar opposites. It feels like the American political landscape is what it is in Britain.

00:17:09:19 – 00:17:41:01
As much as there are massive issues, the think the centrist nature of both parties means the genuinely will get on and and produce a better country. I think much more likely than having Farage and Jeremy Corbyn out of each other. Yeah, yeah, people live in that center. Most people live in this area. You live in the center. I do stuff that you feel passionate about, but generally we live in the center politically because not everything anyway, that's what I think.

00:17:41:04 – 00:18:10:04
I don't sure it it it really doesn't help that Kanye song is a banger that does it. He took it out of my brain. No, I know that the chorus of Iowa is stuck inside my brain and it's just flow, like. Like I don't like his misery, I don't, they don't really. Yeah. And it just flows is such a banger.

00:18:10:06 – 00:18:24:08
God say he's intentionally left it to have, like, the catchiest song, and then he's just put the worst lyrics in there. That's exactly it. Just to see how much he can draw us.

00:18:24:10 – 00:18:37:01
So play it instead of the jingle.

00:18:37:03 – 00:19:05:15
The night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes high. As quiet midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music. So we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is I, we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise. Hello and welcome to That's Anonymous is episode 91.

00:19:05:17 – 00:19:28:07
I'm Ricky, he's five two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod. I nearly fucked that intro up then. Oh, nearly. I stumbled on a word I think I on dilemmas. I was just like something just,

00:19:28:09 – 00:19:51:18
It made this one just when it was, I would say. And you're. I'd say that was a good day. Yeah. It's had intro thing. Oh thank you. Yeah. Thanks. How am I. I'm alright. Good. Yeah. You sure. Yeah. Okay. This the sun shining. This is. It is shining. This is my third podcast today, so. Fucking hell. Really? Yeah.

00:19:51:18 – 00:20:19:11
So, I mean, it's only only 12:00 as well. I'll go get that shit out. Well, I mean, right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm Firefox. Yeah, yeah. So I've been, you know, sorry. Just listening to music in between books, I'll say good, good. I've had my father around today, which never normally happens. How hard is it for me, Rick?

00:20:19:13 – 00:20:44:14
He lives in Aylesbury, so it's like a good 40 minutes. Right. Okay. Good for 40, 45 minutes. Yeah. So I've had him around. So people that are listening, my father and I, we are traveling to go and see our football team play in a cup final, European Cup final, not the European Cup final, but Europa League final in Bilbao.

00:20:44:16 – 00:21:07:23
And we are just organizing our trip and it's a bit of a bit of a mad trip. Yeah, but to be able to get your tickets, they need to be on UEFA's own app. So I rang him yesterday and said that the tickets are here. Are you ready to do this thing? So yes, tickets are here. What do you mean?

00:21:08:00 – 00:21:36:09
So the tickets have been issued to you by a friend of ours, and he needs to transfer them to our accounts. So I need the. And you need the other way for us to do that. So you need the UEFA app to do that. But you're part of your dad 74. Yeah, 7370, 74 in July. Yeah. And and you know, technology isn't his his friend I know no one maybe.

00:21:36:09 – 00:22:01:06
And in 70 plus I think €65. Right. But as soon as you get to 78, it's just those few years that push you over the edge. And I rang him yesterday said ticket three. Do you want to download them and sort it out? I said, first of all, do you know how to download apps on your phone? And he just looked at me, said, I don't know.

00:22:01:09 – 00:22:24:08
Oh, that's not we, you had better come here or I come to euros. And he sent me a message back saying, I'll be at your at 10:00 in the morning. So is that okay? Sweet. He came round, downloaded the app, did the ticket transfer all gravy? Now, where we've booked our flights because we've got two different flights on the same day, two different airlines.

00:22:24:08 – 00:22:46:21
And we booked it through this company called My Trip or something like that. Now, we've been trying to go through my trip this morning to add our passport details, to do the check ins and all that lot, and I couldn't find where you need to enter your details, your passport and all that that. So I'm beginning to panic now.

00:22:46:23 – 00:23:09:13
So I bring up my trip because they've got a 24 hour customer service and you, you waiting for the telephone to be picked up. And then there's a slight delay when you pick up and then you hear an accent that's unfamiliar to yours and you know you're in trouble. What? What are you what kind of accent? Ricky? It's just an accent that is different to mine.

00:23:09:15 – 00:23:33:16
Right? I'll say that pretty different. Right? There is. I think you can say this. I think it's a general in some cases that there is a slight issue with. I think that I think the telephone was connected abroad to a call center. How far from how far? Very far, I would say at least a nine hour flight.

00:23:33:19 – 00:23:51:10
At least a nine hour. Right? Yeah. Your heart sinks. Your heart sinks. Yeah. Trouble, I don't panic. Yeah. And I fly out first thing Tuesday morning. I don't know what to do. And then I'm on the phone and I'm explaining what's happened. And then they say, oh, it should be there. I'm not. I know it fucking should be there.

00:23:51:11 – 00:24:11:22
Yeah. I'm ringing you to see where it is. Right. Well, here's the reference number for the two airlines. Maybe you could try calling both the airlines. And maybe this is a travel app, and it's supposed to be all inclusive in this travel app. Yeah. Why is it not happening? So you're looking you're looking for where you can check in basically and get your boarding ticket.

00:24:11:23 – 00:24:31:00
Yeah. Yeah. It's nothing. There's nothing in the app. No. And they're like it should be there. Yeah it should be there, but it's not there. So I, my dad sitting next to me, and I'm on the phone and you can see that I'm getting frustrated. And he's just sitting there and then as I'm on. Right. We're just going to transfer.

00:24:31:00 – 00:24:50:04
Yes. There will only be 3 or 4 minutes has been transferred, I say to my dad has been transferred. And then he's like talking to me about some inane thing that I'm just like, meh, praise. Oh, I need to do this. You can't start saying how there's a cat over there. It can. You see that? I can't I can't deal with this.

00:24:50:04 – 00:25:09:21
Right. Just sit there. Where you possible drinking coffee. We'll get ourselves out of this. So it's been a bit of a stressful morning. We haven't sorted out. You haven't? No, not sorted out. What do you mean? Oh, you can ignore what I, first of all, I'm going to record this podcast. Then I'm going out for lunch with my mum and my sister.

00:25:09:21 – 00:25:30:12
I'm. Then I'm going to come back and then just look at my laptop and go, fuck. So what is the I did that, so I did go in there. So what I did tried to go to the different airlines, downloaded their apps. They said, who is it? I don't know how you pronounce it. Vueling v u e and I n g.

00:25:30:13 – 00:25:51:19
Yeah, I know I said previously, it's French, but it's a Spanish airline. That has the worst in the way in it. Think. Yeah, I know you like, do you want to fly on a plane that we don't we've never heard of, but apparently is owned by British Airways. So, you know who told you that? I'm my pilot lady.

00:25:51:21 – 00:26:12:00
Did he do that? But his mind, his own business. Get a life, stop concentrating to fly planes. And then there was a. And the other one is Transylvania or something like that. That sounds dodgy. That one. So, Yeah. Can I ask, can I ask? I know this is quite boring, but like, when you go to the web, if you got if you got like a booking number.

00:26:12:02 – 00:26:30:24
Yeah, I've got it. Oh yeah. I'm sure it'll be fun. Yeah, exactly. And then I went to their apps, the individual apps to download and just to upload my boarding a lot more details and hopefully the boarding passes will go on to their apps. They did. And it says in can only be done 24 hours before flight on one of them.

00:26:31:05 – 00:26:48:07
And checking can only be done two, two days before. So I'm hoping that when it gets to that time period, then it will say hi, you need to upload your passport details and all that a lot, but I just want it done now. You know, I just want that one less thing to worry about. Yep. Take it off and do it, you know what I mean?

00:26:48:13 – 00:27:18:02
But you know, I mean, this all, fits into the topic that we're going to be talking about today. Is it football? Oh, yeah. Football. So we had an email in from the lads and we obviously talk about many topics on here. And we are both known mainly for the fighting cock. And we talk a lot of football on that.

00:27:18:02 – 00:27:43:01
But I didn't want this to be talking about Tottenham because like genuinely, there are people that listen to this pod that don't support Tottenham have nothing to do with Tottenham. Yeah. Which is absolutely great. I don't know how you talk about time either. What do is talk about Tottenham know exactly, exactly that. So we'll just kind of generally chat about football really.

00:27:43:03 – 00:28:13:22
And we'll do the East is absolutely fucking stupid that we let something like a game that we can't control, played by millionaires who have nothing to do with us, no relation to us, absolutely dominate how we feel. Yeah. It is, it's the most ridiculous. It's crazy. I used to be like, well, I don't know why I it used to really kind of, like a flat my nose when I was younger and people used to say, like it was my introduction of, oh, this is Ricky.

00:28:13:22 – 00:28:32:19
He supports Tottenham. He's a Tottenham fanatic with fanatical about football. I used to be no I'm not by I really I'm not. And it's like, you've got a season ticket. You go to all the matches and stuff and I'm like, mate, you have no idea. Like when I was younger, like Charlie, you know Charlie, Mark's back in the day.

00:28:32:19 – 00:28:55:02
Yeah. And he would be like flying here. They're everywhere. Like absolutely are center of nowhere for fucking third round FA Cup games a lot. Those people are the the mentalist that go to every single game. You know, I mean yeah, I'm just a guy that goes to watch my football team their home games really that's you know, that's quite regular.

00:28:55:04 – 00:29:23:01
So it used to kind of annoy me that I was sort of, especially as a football fanatic. I fucking hate football with, but I don't watch like Sunday, Super Sunday, Liverpool v the Gunners or. Yeah, you know, Monday Night Football or anything like that. I guess you do because you, you know for a job I, I the older I'm getting, the more I do just watch it passively.

00:29:23:01 – 00:29:32:11
Yeah. I, when I, when I was growing up football for me was about belonging to Tottenham. It was about

00:29:32:13 – 00:29:59:16
Finding like minded people to go on a journey with and share something with. And so it never really bothered me that Spurs were great because what I had around Tottenham, I know it's all about something in there. Yeah, it was great. You know the experiences we had together, traveling all over, Europe and going with my brothers. And it was that that community that I was obsessed with.

00:29:59:22 – 00:30:19:18
And, you know, we used to do some weird sort of movements and activist stuff in to do with Tottenham and following and trying to watch the youth team play. And, you know, all of that stuff was more important than Spurs being good. I didn't need Tottenham to be good then. I wasn't as dictated by the results as I used to be.

00:30:19:20 – 00:30:46:03
Yeah. Yeah. I mean when, like so when we kind of came into it, you know, air of support and so on, and we were actually pretty sure to be fair. Yeah, it was the worst we've been in probably now. Yeah. Now is the worst. No. But when we, when we, when we met each other, I think that was probably the worst Spurs side I've ever seen.

00:30:46:05 – 00:31:13:20
It was worse, I know. So you kind of needed something else. Yeah, absolutely. And just to kind of, I know people have heard this, but your origin story of supporting Tottenham, how did you how did you find Tottenham? That made me my, my, my grandad was moved down from the north and, well, you're, you've got northern blooding.

00:31:13:20 – 00:31:34:21
Yeah. Well my mum's from Birmingham. She's literally born and bred in Birmingham. Okay. That's that's not fucking the North. I thought you meant like your grandad was from Yorkshire or something like that. I think my, my, my, as I understand, I need to check this. I need to check this. But my granddad Grant, my granddad had to choose.

00:31:34:23 – 00:32:00:05
Birmingham is the North by the way. It's not from London. Everything's not, the, the, the so he had a choice between Tottenham and Arsenal and at that time it would have, it would have been Arthur Rose push and run side from the 51. Yeah. And so he chose Tottenham. But lots of people went and bought Spurs Arsenal alternative weekend weekends.

00:32:00:05 – 00:32:24:00
It wasn't like a the rivalry wasn't as fierce as it has been over the last 40 years or so. So he chose them. And then my dad had me and my two older brothers, Ryan, and they had for an extended period, other relationships. We had two other brothers called Adam and Joe, and they were all spurs. My little brother Alex got involved as well, although he kind of faded away from it, but generally, it was part of our family.

00:32:24:00 – 00:32:47:05
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's I mean, it's very similar for both of us. Yeah. My, my old man, when he kind of picked up football early 60s. So it was either, and where he lived in north north west London. Yeah. Not Tottenham, Tottenham by the team. So he supported them. My uncles did and now my cousins do.

00:32:47:06 – 00:33:05:22
It's funny. So many of our supporters were found were found from glory hunting. Yeah. Oh totally. And it's like yeah especially like the you know the double season 61. And that's like, oh dad when did you come to the. Oh well I see my, my fucking glory. That's my dad's first season where he went regularly. He was ten.

00:33:05:22 – 00:33:28:14
No, no he's eight. Yes I, I mean all that's the same age. Yeah I think they're literally the same age. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's mad. Yeah. So that's obviously where I get that from. What you were saying about the Tottenham Arsenal thing, but I wish I remember when I was younger, I saw an interview with, Bruce Forsyth, and he was always.

00:33:28:14 – 00:33:53:05
This played to be a Tottenham supporter, is he not? And no, he is. But he used to say that when he was younger and when he was a boy, when Tottenham played away he went to watch Arsenal. Yeah. And when Arsenal went to watch Tottenham fucking mental. I remember hearing that for the first time and I was like, how, why night?

00:33:53:07 – 00:34:02:13
And then you just pick one side. Tottenham is just fucking mad. Absolutely mad. Yeah. It was

00:34:02:15 – 00:34:31:04
Like he touched on earlier about supporting like supporting Tottenham. But we've kind of I think most people know our journey and we'll, we'll pick up the European football bits and stuff like that and, and reminisce. But I was kind of more interested in how you feel about football nowadays, especially like kind of you work 24/7 in football.

00:34:31:04 – 00:35:05:04
Really? Yeah. And how is it like, how do you, I suppose, how do you get yourself up every day ready to talk about not only Tottenham but football in general? Yeah. I mean because it's I could have a real job talking like working on the tools or something. So that's work. That's hard work. Just talking about football I think also Spurs has been difficult this season because we've been so bad.

00:35:05:06 – 00:35:37:10
But really like the essence of the final podcast is we're in this together. And it's funny that whenever we Spurs could be terrible if we're producing a podcast that's funny to listen to, it's not really work. Right? So I don't mind doing that if it's even especially bad. Like we did a great pod yesterday. Me you called only and that and it was, you know, we were all going through it because Spurs have a big epic cup final despite it's been terrible a European Cup final next Wednesday which Ricky talks both about to start apart.

00:35:37:12 – 00:36:04:00
And it's a stressful time because you just want it. So you want to win so badly. And again, it goes into this idea that you some that you can't control, like how we feel has absolutely no bearing on what will happen on Wednesday. We will leave a win or lose. Right. That's it. There's no it's that binary and there's nothing we can do as fans to change that by feeling any certain way that we feel right now.

00:36:04:02 – 00:36:21:09
Even as I'm speaking about this, a pang of anxiety is running through my chest. Yeah, for sure. Which is ridiculous because I cannot control it. I have no bearing on whether or not we win or lose that game. I can't do anything. I'm just gonna have to sit and endure it. You can do a little bit more because you're in the stadium.

00:36:21:11 – 00:36:44:12
But generally, no, I can't do anything about it. So, I think if I sing a little bit louder. Yeah, maybe they might. Might win. I think. I think an atmosphere would go a long way to help in this case. Yeah. For it. Yeah. You have got a job to do. But, so it is when things are that emotionally draining, then you kind of you do have to kind of.

00:36:44:14 – 00:37:05:13
You have to create a staleness to bad results. And Spurs have been so bad and lost so many games this year that I'm watching Spurs lose and not feel anything. And I think that's a lot of a lot of people. And so yeah, producing podcast like that it's not too difficult is when you hope, when you've got hope and then disappointment comes.

00:37:05:13 – 00:37:30:24
That's that's tough. But yeah, really I like the like you're saying this we've we've reached the 20 losses this season. I think we have and I can't remember it all cups. Is it is it really that bad. Yeah. It's 23 in the street parking. And what about it? It's kind of like I find it. I'm finding it really?

00:37:31:01 – 00:37:57:22
Even I'm finding it hard to talk about. Oh, I've become, apathetic to it. Like, I just kind of like it. It's just another loss. Just Karen, about Karen, about my day. It's like I really should not be feeling that. And the way that I support of my football club or supporting any team. Yeah. And I kind of like, then, like, obviously you, on the overlap.

00:37:57:24 – 00:38:28:21
Yeah. Like, Saturday social and it's things like that where I'm kind of like as, as a 40 year old man, a 42 year old man. And with my family and other things going on, like, I can't really I can't afford for football to dictate my life in the way that it used to, like I used to, I didn't know, don't get me wrong, I still absolutely live and breathe it.

00:38:28:23 – 00:38:53:22
It still makes my weeks, my weekends and stuff like that with the results. Yeah, but I kind of have to. I feel like in a way I like, have to grow up almost, you know, I mean, yeah, like, I can't, I can't let it affect me going on for days on end and walk around the house like a fucking bear with a sore head, though, because you have a job to do.

00:38:53:22 – 00:39:19:09
Your parent, your, you know, husband can't. Yeah. There's been times where I've been utterly embarrassed by being how I've behaved after a result. I remember in my relationship with Oli and I think my daughter was a stepdaughter was, on the sofa and we'd been beat. We're losing this on the porch scene over losing to Palace away. Yeah.

00:39:19:11 – 00:39:42:23
And the game is over. And I think I punched the floor in frustration. Like, how embarrassing is that? Bear in mind, these are my wife and certainly Stuart that really hadn't had much exposure to football. There's nothing down there with, you know, the closest team, Swindon Town, that's like 50 minutes away. No one cares about football here. Pretty.

00:39:43:00 – 00:40:10:10
So then they've gone from that to a man punching the floor out of frustration. A grown man no less. One that she wants to build her life with. He's punching the floor in frustration. Yeah. It was, Yeah, it's embarrassing really. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I like exactly the same, really. My I mean, my Mrs. knows because I've been my Mrs. for fucking donkey's years.

00:40:10:12 – 00:40:37:02
So she knows how I react to football and stuff. But I am particularly conscious that when I am watching football about my swearing, how I react and stuff like that, where the kids, when the kids see me, because obviously I want to be an example to them. And I sometimes it's the swearing, obviously it pops out and frustration and anger does get the better of me.

00:40:37:02 – 00:41:07:17
But I do kind of don't try to be over animated, you know, like, for as an example, you would see a manager Arteta on the sideline and how kind of pumped up he is and oh that like dramatized to it. You can see and I have seen people watching sport or watching football where they are smashing glasses, kicking over a table, pushing, you know, pushing a chair.

00:41:07:17 – 00:41:38:16
Yeah, whatever it might be. Yeah. And it's like really kind of, performative. And I could be, you know, you could be that way. But I don't want to show people that it affects me. Yeah, yeah, I just kind of like trying hold it together. Really. What I've said in a weird way, sort of the impact of, of watching your if for me, this is a very personal experience.

00:41:38:17 – 00:42:05:04
Most fans won't have had this, but I obviously there's a direct correlation between how many people listen to the podcast based on how happy they are with their football club. It's massive. In podcasting. The drop off is massive. If Spurs are not playing well, like we, we're getting half the listenership that we used to get when we were, you know, when we were riding high at the start of Postecoglou's, people couldn't get enough content when Spurs.

00:42:05:06 – 00:42:34:08
Yeah. When the Spurs were run that unbeaten ten match run, it was insane. And obviously there's a direct correlation between the revenue you can reduce and the amount of people that listen to your podcast. So when you're watching Spurs go concede and lose a 23rd game of the season, apathy is horrendous for our business. Really, really horrendous because people just why would they want to listen to people talk about something that has brought them misery for most parts of the season?

00:42:34:10 – 00:43:06:04
If you completely understand it, why I don't blame anybody for not listening, I get it. I wouldn't listen either. Luckily, with the fighting cock we've kind of produced over the years a strong, stable audience who will listen regardless because they know what what we're trying to produce is much more sort of happy. But but yeah, yeah, there is, there is, there is that issue on top of that, I have a barrage of people out there that I don't know who are within a waiting to get me every time Spurs lose.

00:43:06:06 – 00:43:29:13
I don't know. These people know when my DMs are open, they've come in to do some mental stuff or I peer on something and they'll attack me for having an opinion that's different to theirs. Which is really weird because I'm not. This isn't I'm not talking about being a celebrity and being targeted by people with this is football space, right?

00:43:29:13 – 00:43:51:10
And you're putting yourself out there and people come and get you for sure. And, that's weird. That's how my relationship with what was asked at the beginning. All this about how it's changed, that's that's an odd thing, you know, when you're being attacked. So yeah, I'm constantly. Yeah, I'm very, thin skinned, so. Oh I can't yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:51:10 – 00:44:15:21
So I can't go out there and I don't think I can take, like negative comments and feedback, but I don't really put myself out there. In the case of not, we're talking about the top of the show like a racist comment. Racist reply. Yeah, that type of thing. So I'm just kind of like, I can never really vocalize truly what I would say or do or what?

00:44:15:22 – 00:44:49:23
Or gloating or whatever. Yeah. In fear of that embarrassment that someone would reply with something, racist. You know, it's just, And that's why I'm not like that. But equally, I have just will use X as an example that if you do have an opposing view, whether it be football or politics or fucking whatever it is, that the other side that is so binary that it really is war.

00:44:49:23 – 00:45:13:16
It really is kind of, where people will send for you. It doesn't matter. Like if you if it's just kind of, like if Liverpool lost and you were like, oh, there goes the title, you would have a swarm of Liverpool fans around you and attacking you and then going through your Instagram photos and then doing stuff right.

00:45:13:18 – 00:45:37:02
It's just fucking crazy, man. And it just makes that that part of football less enjoyable. I mean, it hasn't ever really happened on that scale to me, thank fuck. But I can imagine on a, you know, on a scale that has happened to you. Yeah. I mean, you've said before that people have, DMU and they said, oh, this is your mum's LinkedIn profile.

00:45:37:02 – 00:46:15:16
And you're like, yeah. And like, you don't reply. You just say, like, what are you doing? Me? You freak? That's generally like, because that's freaky, freakish behavior, isn't it? Doing that. It is. It's mad. And I wanted to kind of, obviously we have spent many years in our youth traveling around Europe, going to watch, Tottenham in Europe, and it was absolutely fucking amazing, some of the best times of my life of going to do that with you and your brothers and, and everyone else that, that was there.

00:46:15:18 – 00:46:40:24
And it was such a kind of I look back on those photos in the videos and those times extremely fondly. Now I'm off to Bilbao and correct me if I'm wrong. If someone said to you, here is a ticket, flight and hotel right now, it probably daylight. Or would you do it?

00:46:41:01 – 00:46:52:24
Well, someone said these are ticket hotel flight direct to Bilbao. Yeah, you might have to be there for a couple of days, though.

00:46:53:01 – 00:47:26:16
Oh, I yeah I can't yeah I guess what my, my overall, question here is with 42 year olds, we are older men now. We're not as young as those lads zipping around to fucking Prague and Brussels and Milan and whatever else. Like how is your, you know, how you support Tottenham changed as in, yeah. Yeah. The physical side, it's like what is I.

00:47:26:18 – 00:47:46:11
Yeah, yeah. Go on sitting like on I live out in the country now. So I made the choice to sort of split up in in the West Country. And just going to games is I feel like I produced work around football games now where it was before, it was merely just to go and watch and be a Spurs.

00:47:46:11 – 00:48:01:21
And now it's like, what do I have to produce out of this game directly after it, that sort of stuff. So it has changed in that respect. I am envious of other fans. You can just switch off and don't think about Spurs for for a little while or whatever. Yeah.

00:48:01:23 – 00:48:26:04
Yeah. I mean because like for for me back then it was and mainly it was like it was kind of like going out. It was like going out. But it was daytime out, wasn't it? It was like going out. Yeah, exactly. Beer, cigs, whatever else. I may just be fucked all day. And it was fantastic. And now I'm not.

00:48:26:04 – 00:48:38:17
Fuck, I've got Sunday. I want to shout out 200. I am a sofa. I want to lay on my sofa and just. We were flying though. Would it be different?

00:48:38:19 – 00:49:02:07
Maybe it would be different. But there are times where I've done a lot of trips to Tottenham, and I'm still kind of right after. But my train ticket, I've got a walk like a brisk walk, like 14 minutes to the train station, an hour and ten on the train, and then I get to, you know, Euston, I have to do half hour to get to Seven Sisters and then walk half hour from seven.

00:49:02:09 – 00:49:28:02
You know, it's it's a long journey. It's like a minimum of two hours travel, just going there and then back. And I know other people do long distances, but my point is, is that I'm fucking old or older now, and I find it as the as the years go by, I find it harder and harder to, kind of gear myself up for the day out.

00:49:28:05 – 00:49:47:15
Yeah. Now, back then it was easy because I knew I was going out to meet my mates to get fucked up and go and watch a football. And that was, you know, I couldn't wait to get out was like almost clock watching. And now I'm clock watching to that house of toxic. I got to leave the house. Now I've got to leave it.

00:49:47:15 – 00:50:10:14
I'm going to have to run to the station now. And it's totally changed now. Like you saying, whether we were winning all the time or not, I still kind of do it. I just kind of feel like I am more want to stay at home and not really. I still, I still obviously when I'm there, I'm there and I love it.

00:50:10:16 – 00:50:37:23
I remember the reasons why I love doing it, but as I kind of got older, I am less seen and like I have to be at every game and I have to get fucked up and I have to drink as much as anything and all that. Not, my main, my priorities change now. It's mainly to go and see my dad, and spend quality time with my dad, because it's like, every other week, that, that I'd get to see him.

00:50:37:23 – 00:51:04:03
And if that didn't happen, like when football isn't played over the summer, then I don't really see him. So that's what I have to do now. When we were going as well. Right. I just wanted to quickly touch on, the, the different kind of culture that, like I said, when we were young and we used to go and watch, footy the way we used to love the ultras and the not so much.

00:51:04:03 – 00:51:32:22
We love the hooligan culture. We were aware of it, knew the faces, knew what people wear, the casual culture, you know, very exciting, but never involved in that side of it. But it was, the, the more ultra kind of stuff aspect, especially me. I absolutely loved it. The, the kind of the drumming, the unified singing, everyone wearing black, the flares, the flag, you know, all of that stuff.

00:51:32:22 – 00:51:43:03
And I always wanted our, you know, our team to beat up that. And, and I remember you kind of being a very,

00:51:43:05 – 00:52:09:23
Kind of devout in that that was your belief too. And how do you like, now that we're older, we're way past that. We're not the young guns anymore. We're not the the all kind of up at them lads. Like, do you still like that type of support or is it more as I've got older, I, I.

00:52:10:00 – 00:52:30:22
I appreciate that it works in certain countries, but in the UK, I don't think it does work things a bit cringeworthy as I get older. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I think it was. I see it all changed with Dortmund when had that flag with the yeah, the marijuana leaf on a flag and I'm like and the character, cartoon character is smoking a spliff and I'm like, oh fuck, are we doing it really well.

00:52:31:00 – 00:52:52:06
Well all right, you're making a lot of noise, but you're holding up that stupid flag and you're like a bunch of balance. So, from that point on, I don't really like Dortmund anymore. What they do. So what you can. And I actually like fuckin what? Being in the being inside the stadium for two hours before and seeing at nobody, you know, fucking getting a puppy to keep.

00:52:52:08 – 00:53:21:09
Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I feel ready. Yeah. I'm pretty much I mean, I, I, I enjoy watching it with, like, having a jumping up and down and stuff, but like, I used to kind of have these, dreams that are South stand would be something like that. And it'd be the envy of all English clubs looking to see this Dortmund esque, constantly singing, constantly bouncing, you know.

00:53:21:11 – 00:53:39:24
Yeah. And at the end of the day, again, being the age I am, I. You're in my 20s singing yeah I know I am. So if it was fucking on top for 90 minutes and I'm having to jump up and down and clap, I think that I need to go to the West stand now. I need to have a little sit down.

00:53:40:01 – 00:53:59:14
The thing with that stuff is it's so unique. It needs to be organic, and it's so much needs to go into in order to make it successful. You can't force it just by having a single cup tier like we have doesn't mean anything when you're like the amount, the cost, the it's going in there, the standard of the football, the understanding and accepting.

00:53:59:14 – 00:54:19:06
The, the fan base at Spurs isn't isn't like Dortmund's. It's not what we're about culturally. And it does require a bit of it requires the team to play well as well as the fans being up for it. And there's been the complete and utter abandonment of the club, of the supporters in terms of generating a matchday atmosphere.

00:54:19:08 – 00:54:46:17
They just. Yeah, not they haven't been interested in helping. So all I think all that stuff sort of plays into it. Be done. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree. And especially like like you're saying it, it's especially in England anyway, the it takes that the team have to be playing well and they have to do something to kind of see, something up within the fan base to make them get up off their seat and then kind of participate.

00:54:46:17 – 00:55:11:20
Whereas in Europe they're just singing like the same. It's like a just drone for 90 minutes. And I don't think you get those peaks and troughs that peaks the players up because it's just constantly going on, you know? I mean, it's just totally I don't really not really into that. Right? I am I'm going to bounce on to dilemmas and something and you know.

00:55:11:21 – 00:55:34:19
All right. But before that why was there anything else that you want to know. No. Good. Okay. But yeah, before we get into that, the topic for next week, we this has been submitted quite a few times and it has been been it was submitted very early doors. And I didn't want to do this kind of cliche topic from the get go.

00:55:34:19 – 00:55:59:02
And it's been coming. It's coming a few more times. And I thought, you know what, I'm just going to do it. Top five dinner guests and why? So they can be dead or alive. Family. You can if there's anyone in your family that you want back. Anyone. Famous stories, serious stuff, anything like that. Who is it that are going to be at your table?

00:55:59:02 – 00:56:28:00
So far? You're included. So it's going to be five others than yourself. Have you already had this in your mind of who you would invite? But I didn't know. We're doing it till the second. No, no, not we're not doing it now because it's going to be the next week. So yeah. No. So I'll have it right. But I reckon, in my mind I've always been like, because this is a very kind of everyone, these types of questions.

00:56:28:02 – 00:56:38:04
So I kind of already don't have it narrowed down. Yeah. That that remains love.

00:56:38:06 – 00:57:04:10
So I want to hear your suggestions and who you would have as your five guinea guess, send into lots unknown pod at gmail.com, and we will read some of them out and I won't. Not just for you to list five people, but I want to see the reasons you workings out of why you want to pick those people, and how that dynamic of the five dinner guests would work at your party.

00:57:04:11 – 00:57:08:17
So we'd love to hear more from you.

00:57:08:19 – 00:57:22:13
The dilemma for this week is called Nick Hucknall and something that you know is called Knock Knock. And we're going to jump into dilemma.

00:57:22:15 – 00:57:53:16
The night hazy like I know just tired. You got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad because Ken will taste you a can in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Ricky and landed. Let that stress of your chest will bring you the sunny day. Be like you're safe to get nice and warm between Ricky and and.

00:57:53:18 – 00:57:56:12

00:57:56:14 – 00:58:17:22
So this is called Nick Hucknall, and they've, it's a bit of a bit of a longer one, but they've started it by. Firstly, I'd like to say that my first wank was watching, birds of a feather as a 10 or 11 year old, but that. That's nice. It was the saucy, slutty neighbor Dorian that used to make my dick go hard.

00:58:18:02 – 00:58:38:21
I had no idea what was happening and just started fiddling with it. Felt amazing watching Dorian wear a leopard print top, revealing some cleavage, was talking about how she shagged the young handyman and I. She was like the old kind of like cougar in birds. What else didn't it? Oh, it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to, I guess fancy, I guess.

00:58:38:23 – 00:58:52:22
Really. Well, yeah, in a way, yeah. I mean, like, she was like you had Pauline Quirke and you had the other one and then. Yeah, slightly neighbors was much better.

00:58:52:24 – 00:59:21:15
So thanks for that. For whoever sent that. I'm looking back then that looking at pictures of birds of a feather now. And are you doing that now. Yeah, maybe she wasn't I remember differently, I think it's just being young and horny. You just find anyone. Nine year, eight course. Course. So the dilemma is. So I was dumped after eight years last August by my long distance girlfriend who lives in Kos, Greece.

00:59:21:17 – 00:59:47:10
Anyway, we had a tough eight years living apart but always staying together. She was great even through the loss of my mother. My mental and physical health declined and by April last year I found myself with daily headaches and up to 19 stone in weight on five foot 11. So I started losing weight and was due to see her in August, along with my whole family who had made it a yearly tradition to have a holiday in cos.

00:59:47:12 – 01:00:09:01
I was down two and a half stone in weight of pain and like a new man, I was really looking forward to seeing her. Two weeks prior to flying there, she mentioned that she wanted us to start organizing, getting married, something we'd put on hold because of Covid, and through my, lost my mom and career change, she'd been dumped.

01:00:09:03 – 01:00:20:16
Yes. Yeah, well, recently been dumped. So, so so this is the background info, right? Okay. Right.

01:00:20:18 – 01:00:47:09
Where where am I at now? Okay. The day before I arrived, she asked to meet me on the beach, so it was a bit odd. I went with a slight spring in my step, hoping she'd notice the weight loss. She told me that it's all over, and the reason is because she's. She had been paid attention from someone else and someone had paid interest in her.

01:00:47:11 – 01:01:15:22
I asked her who was the local watersports guy called Nick fucking Nick. Nick had been in cos for six years, leaving behind his son in the UK to go live as a beach bum. Spin us to walk past the watersports people after she dumped me and lo and behold, Nick looked like Mick. Mick Hucknall. He had ginger, frizzy hair, but,

01:01:15:24 – 01:01:35:20
And was and he was short and looked like a great a tramp ex assured me that she didn't find him attractive and nothing would ever happen with him, but it made her realize that other men can appreciate her more than I do. Throughout the two weeks I was there, my ex basically flip flopped with me and kept giving me hope.

01:01:35:22 – 01:01:59:10
I was fighting for her. I got home and within three days she was fucking Mick. This ginger prick must have loved the thrill of coming home to her. It took me a few weeks to build up the courage to stop contact, but I love the phone. No, that's. That is genius. Even if you can't make it.

01:01:59:12 – 01:02:23:08
It's this, this guy goes, hey, you know, it is a fairly long email. We'll finish it. Here is, I'm at a loss. I still miss my ex. I'm still angry and feel like I wasted eight years when I could have built something with someone here in the UK. What do I do? She's for the streets now.

01:02:23:10 – 01:02:45:07
And don't contact her email. I just ask, how she's doing though. Or get revenge by telling Mick what happened in November, in November, and the thing that what happened in November, they had a they had a phone sex to do. Yeah. While she was still with, Nick Hucknall. Hey, cock. Now, don't do any of that stuff.

01:02:45:07 – 01:03:10:20
Just move on. Move on. Yeah. Yep. Continue your weight loss journey. Get fit, do that for you, and, find something else. Don't you know, worry about lost time? It doesn't matter. It's all part of your journey. Just forget about her and find. Find someone else. I call myself mate. No revenge, nothing like that. But it's not nice.

01:03:10:20 – 01:03:31:04
No no no not. Yeah. No. And I that kind of stuff. I never really sits well at the at that time. It probably feels good for you to do it and get a bit of revenge and have got it. But don't do that, man. Just just focus on you. You focus on your journey, focus on your weight loss.

01:03:31:06 – 01:03:48:24
And there are plenty more fish in the sea. And if you know if it's meant to be, then she will contact you. She knows how to get out here and that's what she'll do. And now we're going to go into a short one of something only you know.

01:03:49:01 – 01:03:56:17
Why? Something, you you know, you.

01:03:56:19 – 01:04:26:03
Knock, knock. I stay in hotels all week for work. One night, there was a lot of bad action going on in the next room. I thought it might stop after an hour or so, but it continued for two hours. I blew my brains on my pillow whilst listening to the lady being pleasured very loudly. Turns out she was having a gangbang and I got the courage to knock on the door.

01:04:26:05 – 01:04:39:14
I was invited in. I was allowed to watch the last half hour before she'd had enough and chucked all of us out. And there is something on the other night.

01:04:39:16 – 01:05:00:07
We just sat there and watched it just sat there. It was, this is a couple of things as well. I like, just blew his brains on his pillow. Like, can't get tissue going, like, get you anything. Not where you're about to lay your head. Don't want to be, like, sleeping in a fucking Jersey pillow, mate. Shit. I mean, would you like.

01:05:00:09 – 01:05:20:20
Never in a million miles off. Would you ever, like, be that whole up that you would hear someone getting rattled next door? I'd be like, you know, I've had enough. I'm gonna have to knock on the door. Don't know if I just. I probably would have been in the situation. I'd like to, but wouldn't have had the ball ballocks to do that.

01:05:20:20 – 01:05:47:01
No, no. All right. Hello? Can I come in? Yeah. Can you keep the noise down or invite me in, please? I'm in the mug with my Mrs.. We, I think we were staying in the hotel fairly recently, and when we walked past, I could hear someone around, you know, getting sing today, and it was more funny than a turn on.

01:05:47:01 – 01:06:14:22
And, yeah, I didn't really want to kind of go and knock on the door and get involved, but, you know, that makes sense to that. So yeah, the topic for next week is your five dinner guests who you'd invite, celebrities you have, you know, family that have past ex colleagues, whoever the fuck you want to come and sit at this dinner party and why you want them to come.

01:06:14:22 – 01:06:35:04
Is it going to be a funny one? Is it going to be a sit down philosophical talk? What is it that you want to do at your dinner party? Sending your, guests to lots anon pod at gmail.com. And until then, we will see you next Monday.

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