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#83 | Attraction | What Do You Look For In A Partner And Love?

The freestyle master Harry Mack, Ricky shags Britain’s railway, pass it on, and of course, attraction, what makes an attractive partner?

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  • 00:00 – Opening chat
  • 12:32 – Main topic discussion
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Full Episode Transcript

00:00:00:12 – 00:00:27:07
You're tired. I'm fucking exhausted. What did you do? Well, For my. I don't know what it was. Maybe my birthday. My Mrs. and kids bought me tickets to go and see Harry Mac. Now, if you don't know who Harry Mac is, he is a freestyle rapper. He's probably. I mean, I don't know the hip hop world at all, but point is.

00:00:27:09 – 00:00:56:16
Yeah, he his freestyle rapping is absolutely insane. He's very, internet famous. Don't do me a disservice. But yes, he is, where he will go on. It's a or a medical program called amigo, whereby it shuffles the different people that you speak to in a video call, and he asks them to give him three of the most craziest words, and then he'll create a rap from those words, and he gets a spot on every time.

00:00:56:16 – 00:01:25:23
And it's just incredible. So we went to go and see him live at the, Brixton Academy. And at the time of booking it, you know, you don't think about trying to steal, you just think about the fun. But in England, during bank holidays, there is massive train engineering work. And although they say, hey guys, 95% of the rail network is, you know, available to use.

00:01:26:00 – 00:01:53:07
What they don't tell you is the 5% that isn't is the main arteries into London. Yeah, right. So you're fucked. There was this way to get there by Milton Keynes, a fucking coach to Bedford. And, you know, you know, all the fucking gubbins that go along with it. And then at 9:00, it's like you have to get coaches from 9:00 out of London and to get from Kings Cross back to Milton Keynes, just like a three hour coach ride.

00:01:53:09 – 00:02:14:01
You get from what? Coach? Coach to Milton Keynes from London. That's that's a yeah. Yeah that's. Yeah, that's their solution. But it stops off like it would do as a train would. So it would take three hours. Right. You had to say we were like not having that not having that. So in the end, my Mrs. drove down to Cockfosters.

00:02:14:02 – 00:02:40:11
Yep. And we got the tube into London. Right. She could drink. And I was driving home. So that was the kind of, compromise you call the raw deal there, but massively. Yeah. I mean, she drives it everywhere. What did she do? What you mean? So her bit was just drive into the front and then her bit was having all the fun.

00:02:40:13 – 00:02:56:17
And then you're arriving home. Yeah. Yeah. So I reckon, you know Lisa Blow for that for sure. Yeah. It went up a bit. Well, I don't think I did too much since, but, you really got the taking.

00:02:56:19 – 00:03:21:23
Reiki x ray. She was fucking battered. Well, she was like, you know, we're in the middle of the. We're in the top circle. And, you know, so in the middle aisle, and all the seating right in the middle. And so whenever you need to get out to go toilet or drink whatever, you've got to say, excuse me to everybody and then work your way out.

00:03:22:00 – 00:03:46:09
But, she had gone in, got some beers, and then got me nonalcoholic beer. And the one I had was, there's one called, shipyard or something like that. It was fucking five ships aren't they. It was awful man. Like oh God. It's I've, I've had I even think like people roundly say the Guinness zero is very good and it is.

00:03:46:11 – 00:04:06:06
Yeah, yeah it's fine. But it's almost like once you realize when you've stopped drinking, once you realize that, you might as well drink something else. You do. Because Guinness is lovely I love it. But I don't know, it doesn't taste as good as a normal soft drink. But you're drinking Guinness because of the alcoholic content is crucial.

00:04:06:07 – 00:04:32:03
It really is. And I didn't realize this, but Ricky, I've got on a mission to make. I had a drink I got on Friday. What? Well, I'd planned to. I plan to, around this time. I was going to wait till next. The next Saturday, I went to see my brother's, and, I drunk and I drunk on Friday for some reason.

00:04:32:05 – 00:05:00:14
Mate, I am fucked still. Yeah, I feel horrible. I thought this might happen. I feel horrible, Rick and I been like, what? Nearly, you know, two days out late. Fucking what? Well, what was the occasion that you wanted to drink on Friday? Just for, you know. Well, I just because because Saturdays come in, it was almost like, once a week, like, I, I wanted to kind of unplanned, like, oh, almost test the waters.

00:05:00:14 – 00:05:05:10
Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. And I'm like.

00:05:05:12 – 00:05:27:01
I'm not. Unless there's something to do. I'm not going to drink again. Yeah. Unless there's, unless there's like. Like on Saturday we've arranged brothers. We're going to watch a boxing. I will then I'll work. But unless it's like something significant, I'm just not going to bother because I just, you know. Fuck, I didn't do nothing yesterday. I sat on my sofa, I ordered dominoes.

00:05:27:01 – 00:05:46:24
That's how fucking hard I was. Say, this is here. It's just a spiral of bad decisions. Once you start making it, it's bullshit. It's. It's poison. I, I went out, Friday, I had a freebie. It's just meeting a few, like a few mates down, down a, pub. I think I had about 4 or 5 pints.

00:05:46:24 – 00:06:06:01
Went to, like, a little craft beer place and just having a laugh with your mates and knocking the pints back, and I felt, you know, I was pissed. Like, don't get it twisted, I was pissed, when I got up in the morning, fuzzy head. And I did have, like, a little bit of a headache, and I just felt a bit like,

00:06:06:03 – 00:06:24:23
God. And then my message was like, when we're going to Harry. Max, she's like, I take it you're not up for drink? And I was like, May, I've been looking forward to this for ages, man like me, you, London. We don't do this at all. I'm not fucking bang up for it. But inside I was like, I really could deal with not drinking, you know, this this is.

00:06:24:24 – 00:06:42:16
I feel it would mean it would have. You would have drunk if you would have. I'm 100% my mate. There's nothing worse than a rail replacement. Anyone says to me, rail replacement bus. I'm not going, I'm not going. I'd like I would have not gone to Harry Mac to say sorry. I know it's my present, but I'm not coming.

00:06:42:18 – 00:07:05:15
And, yeah, the thing is, it's, well, like, I worked for the railway for like, ten years, so I never really questioned it or felt like I couldn't question it. But how can you charge people the same amount as he train for? But you're getting on a case. When you work for Network Rail. You kind of like Team Rail a little bit.

00:07:05:17 – 00:07:26:05
Oh yeah. Massively. Hugely. So. Like when people get annoyed at the trains, you wouldn't, you'd be like backing the trains. And I was and I was like on a platform, pitch black, freezing cold, pissing down my rain. My train is 45 minutes late. I've got no fucking, headphones with me. My phone is on 13% battery. I would never, ever say anything.

00:07:26:06 – 00:07:46:07
Just keep it inside. For the love of the railway. Oh, yeah. I can't do it over. A while. It's worse. The trains are nice and they got nice looking trains. But, yeah, they look good. They cannot arrive on time. They cannot get me to my destination on time. It doesn't. And then they go. You can apply for a bit of, what's it called?

00:07:46:08 – 00:08:06:00
A little bit of a compensation. I don't want you fucking compensation. Right. I if I was really worried about the money, I wouldn't be getting a joie, would I? Paying a fortune to be on this train. Yeah. I wouldn't get me there on time. Short, short staffed. Employ my staff, ensure this doesn't happen. Given that this is what.

00:08:06:02 – 00:08:26:00
This is what annoys me, right? With the with the railway. And I saw it when I was there, obviously. But I've still got to keep up that front team railway. Hadn't I didn't mean to go in fucking absolute shoeing of British Railways, but it's always the all we want as British passengers is to get there on time.

00:08:26:04 – 00:08:43:20
So I always want that just to train, to arrive on time. So I'm not out in a cold and rain and to get to my place on time so that I can, you know, meet the people that I am, the football for, going out for a meal, for going to the fair. Whatever you fucking doing. But all is it's like, right, okay, we can't do that.

00:08:44:00 – 00:09:06:04
The on time bit, but what we can do is we could create free toilets. How about that? We used to charge you for toilets. Now it's free, so. Yes. Good. But can you just do some of the trains? Just pay 20 people. The toilets just can't be there on time. Another thing that nobody ever asked for. Just get the fucking trains there on time.

00:09:06:04 – 00:09:26:01
Well, you know, we will all be happy. I'll pay double. Give me more fare. My, the best one that's on is, as as the train's pulling in, it says. Oh, by the way, this train only has five carriages. Not not nine. Right. So. Well, we're all at, like, this sort of capacity of nine carriages got off into five, is it?

00:09:26:01 – 00:09:47:04
Yeah. Sorry about that. I'm glad you're sorry. I can't get on this train, can I? Trains fucking. I wonder in America what the trains are like over there. I can't even remember. I can't even visualize what a train is like over there. What? Trevorrow yeah, they do, but can you go across from city, across the country and yeah, you can.

00:09:47:04 – 00:10:15:01
Yeah, yeah yeah, from from memory. It's like real long, slow, sleeper trains and it's a lot of freight is delivered across, America. But you know, they because it's so vast, we have like, a lot of, fences and cages and stuff like that to keep people away from the railway. But in America, like the railways just down the street, you know, I mean, it's just it's just there, but.

00:10:15:02 – 00:10:45:15
Yes. And I've got the sound of that. You can you can travel across America on the Amtrak. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Long distance routes have spanned the country, allowing you to see the United States from a different perspective. So those are like that steep so popular route. And the, the, California Zephyr while, while we're on that, part of the world, there was a, there was an email in from our Canadian friends.

00:10:45:15 – 00:11:11:09
Oh, yeah. What they say they were happy with. You might wanna be with me. Yeah. What about spreading lies? Filthy. That's what they sound like. Let's get in there. What do you think? The petrol stations. That there is no petrol stations. Stations? That's right. Yeah. They were saying that there are right there. And but when you are on a rural rural route.

00:11:11:10 – 00:11:39:11
Yeah, you will have to plan. But generally speaking, there's, there's gas stations. Prove it. I'm not going to. All I know is that around. That's what I've heard. So, what I, what I'd like us to do is I'm coming with you, by the way. We'll double down. And every time someone says, give me a fun fact or you're, you know, a dinner with someone and you're breaking bread, and you just want to know something interesting every single time I do.

00:11:39:11 – 00:12:04:21
You know, in Canada, they have no service stations. You have to plan for everything. And we'll just keep this, like, going forever. Yeah. Yes. Well, I think I've just googled it and it says all the petrol stations in Canada and it just said no, I go, you said no.

00:12:04:23 – 00:12:32:08
The night hazy like Band of Brothers play in chains. High is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:12:32:10 – 00:12:53:06
Hello and welcome to lads. Anonymous is episode 83. I'm Ricky, he's flat two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature. Something only you and I. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. I almost forgot to do that intro when you looked at me and said go.

00:12:53:06 – 00:13:11:01
I was like, what's he saying? And I was like, oh fuck, I need to do, do you bet? I know you like a bit OCD. Do you feel like you need to do an intro because like, say the same thing every week? Yeah, I know, I just just in case is any new listeners just in case they notice on the fine cooker, stop saying the number is completely pointless.

00:13:11:03 – 00:13:17:11
I know some people, some people go now, they got to keep my number because you just in case I'm missing the wrong episode.

00:13:17:13 – 00:13:38:16
Yeah, but then if you would, if you'd like, if I don't have that and then I'm listening, I'm like, oh, I recognize this. I've listened to it, but and plus I, I don't keep if I'm listening to episodes, I don't I'm not like, oh, I've not listened to episode 79. So this is the one I know. I don't keep track.

00:13:38:18 – 00:13:48:01
Let's look at what Spotify tells me. Who have you listen to this? Yes. No. Have you, did you see the cable car incident?

00:13:48:03 – 00:14:07:11
Yeah, I did my. It's like my greatest fear. Really? Literally. My greatest fear is falling from a height on something like a cable car. I don't like them. I don't like getting in them. I think they're stupid and shit. Cable cars. That's my, anything that goes in the air. Radio shit. But especially a cable car like I.

00:14:07:13 – 00:14:22:20
Look, if you're gonna. If you want to get me up the mountain, I appreciate it, right? But I don't want to be hanging. I'd like it to be on the floor going up. You know, really, sometimes you get those. They look like they're going up. I can't remember the name of the molecule specific name, but they go up a steep hill, but not on the floor.

00:14:22:20 – 00:14:44:11
Yeah, yeah, they move up in there as a bus. They look like a bus, but on a rails sure level goes up. That's fine. Stick me on one of them. I'm fine. I'm pretty sure that not the one you're thinking of. But there is one in, Hungary, I believe. Yeah. And, I think Lisbon also has a cable car somewhere.

00:14:44:13 – 00:15:03:18
Why not one take? Yeah, she's the only way to get to the top. Like, port is, like, very small and condensed. And it's very sort of. It's in, like a valley. And there's a river and all of it. It's beautiful. And, to get to the top of Porto, where you can look down at you, you have to get the cable car.

00:15:03:20 – 00:15:27:10
I wasn't happy, no. What happened? Ricky? The cable snapped. Nothing. And anything more complicated than that. The fucking wire snapped. Which goes to show that you're relying on human beings to monitor and what you call service. These things. Yeah. Yeah. Maintenance. Yeah. Like maintain them. Yeah. You were on a human being. Like, we are shit. Pretty much.

00:15:27:12 – 00:15:44:16
So like this. This ties back into the, See? I'm right. What am I going to bat for? The railway? I don't even work there. Yeah, but, the, East, or the bank holidays. What are they doing? Like in maintenance, isn't they? Everything that needs to be swapped over, change, tie and all that. Hang on. That's what they're doing.

00:15:44:16 – 00:16:04:02
There is every single night of the year that I can do that. Yeah, but some things need to be, like. Right. Rails need to be taken out or sleepers that I cracked do it and I can't do it within and I you can't. You just can't do it because it takes too long. Lights weld and stuff. Yeah, they do, they don't.

00:16:04:02 – 00:16:25:07
They do that and not good at a time. Why are you bashing them? You're working anymore. You didn't even like. No, and I, I, I might be redundant. He said what? I give my life to you ten years and this is how you repay me? And I'm still not, you know, look the wrong. But I do. They they that syndrome fucking love.

00:16:25:07 – 00:16:46:24
I'm still gonna. I got to be honest, Rick, if you think about it, the infrastructure in the UK is insanely good. Yeah it is. I've about the lateness, but you more or less get anywhere you want. Like I come from my train station. I can get to any almost any town in the country. That's mad. Yeah it is.

00:16:47:01 – 00:17:10:20
And like this. Why have you done this? Because I'm going to go, I'm just going to keep going about railway goods. Well, there's a lot of chat, right, about, the railways in Holland, right. Or Netherlands, should I say that? They're good and they've got double decker. Yeah, they trains good, which is fucking incredible. Love that.

00:17:10:22 – 00:17:32:18
Why don't the UK have it right. Why are they so I wanted Britain have it. Is it can I guess. Is it go go fridges. Yeah. Absolutely correct. Yeah. We were the first people to create the railway. The railway system. Victorians. We didn't envisage having double decker trains. So we've got tunnels and bridges that have been there for like 150 years.

00:17:32:18 – 00:17:56:02
Yeah. So there are times where they've dug down and they've taken the tracks down to put electric cables in so they can we can still run electric trains. I said we that's, that's say this is connect the railway, you know, and then there's a lot of people that say about the, Russia can deal with snow and ice.

00:17:56:02 – 00:18:21:21
Why can't me? But there is a car. Do you know what this is? Said a well, I don't know what I'm to put on. This is interesting. Right? Okay. So in, in Britain. What? For? The steel. Right. You have to ten different temperatures. So you have to, just so that it doesn't melt or break, like in extreme icy, snowy conditions.

00:18:21:21 – 00:18:42:08
It will it will freeze and it will break. So it has to be like, that a heat to a certain temperature so that it's malleable enough. It won't break now in Russia because they have extreme ice and snow and extreme heat, they will have to temp their railway twice a year. But that's that's all they have though.

00:18:42:09 – 00:19:13:17
It's the extremes in Britain you've got the four seasons. Yeah. So when you temp it to a certain heat and we have like hot days. How many. We'll say 5 to 7 warm days, really warm days in the UK where it's like fuck everything's melting. Yeah. The rest is pretty much fine. So if we were to temp it to that temperature up the rails, when it gets to freezing, there'll be no good because they'd just be brittle and they'll break.

00:19:13:19 – 00:19:41:22
So you'd have to redo it. But because there's so much railway in so many different places, you just it's physically impossible to do. You could do it, but it cost an insane amount of money. So you can't pick. We have to pick one or the other. But generally speaking, yeah that's okay. Yeah, yeah. Generally speaking, any time there is prediction of snow or ice or anything like that, you know, the gritting trains are out and all stuff like that, this is fucking.

00:19:41:22 – 00:20:02:15
I cannot believe that this is where this has gone. I hate myself. Come on. Just fucking say the words. I love the railway. That is interesting. I didn't know that, Ricky. I did not know. Yeah, see, I mean, I won't, but then it's not. I love it when things shut down in the snow because I just get to see the many.

00:20:02:17 – 00:20:21:12
It's amazing. Yeah, that makes complete sense. What was, Yes. Give me a give me a name of anything. Any. Tell me any place just off the top of your head anywhere in the UK. In the UK, I, I'm going to go with Newcastle.

00:20:21:14 – 00:20:40:23
Yeah. Newcastle. Yeah. That's just, this is the first thing we can get from here to Newcastle. Right. Okay. Oh what say I. Right, right, right. Okay. I, I'm going to go with Cleethorpes. I don't even know if that's a word that.

00:20:41:00 – 00:21:08:22
What was it called to say? What did you say? It was Cleethorpes. Cleethorpes? Yeah. You just made that up. I think I've heard it a a I mean, it has to be real. Was this game is going to work. It's a shit game because it's sickly c l a t. Yeah. Cleethorpes. Yes. Got train station. I can get there.

00:21:08:24 – 00:21:36:02
It's it. That's the game. You, I'm back in, Cleethorpes from Devizes. Train. Are you recording? Yeah. Oh, good. We've been doing this all time. Well, I had to do it tonight, so just, you know, chatting as we do. Have you done it back in? I hadn't done literally just this second ago. Oh. Shagging boy. No, I just,

00:21:36:04 – 00:22:05:09
Do you know how long it would take me to get to Cleethorpes from then? You even know where Cleethorpes is, is it? No. No, cos y yeah, it would take me four hours and 30 minutes. Okay. Yeah. But we. That's good. We, we're talking about attraction. Attraction? What? Yeah. Attraction. I mean, I like for the, I mean, it was mostly lads that message in for the lads that messaging.

00:22:05:11 – 00:22:29:21
And there was quite a few lads that messaging and all of you on. I mean, all of you just replied with one answer saying tits. That was not really what I was looking for. Although they will be discuss, it wasn't crass as to be like, oh, you know what? What? Just one tit, single titty. But yeah, it wasn't, just to be, like.

00:22:29:21 – 00:22:58:15
So route one with the, you know, what attracts you to. And when I say it attracts you to, I am going to slip up. I know I am, I'm I know I'm going to say, what do you look for in a woman or whatever? I will try my best to say partner. Because, you know, we all have a different kind of attractions, but I just thought I'd put that out there because I just forget.

00:22:58:15 – 00:23:06:22
I'm sorry what you say. Look at me. Forgive me on Easter Sunday. All right. So what, I mean.

00:23:06:24 – 00:23:48:15
Would you say that you particularly look for, like, character traits, kindness, sympathy, that kind of thing? Like, it's it's hard because obviously we've we've, you know, fortunately met our, partners, which is great, great for us. So it's like you you are we are obviously you can be a bit biased towards what we already have, and stuff, but when you, you know, back in the day, and if you were looking for love, would that be high up on your list?

00:23:48:15 – 00:24:11:19
Would you be like, obviously looks fine. Tick, tick tick. All that off. Everything's tickety boo. Would you be bothered if she wasn't wasn't like super kind empathetic? I do sometimes look at other people's relationships and their with their partner. Go, what are you doing? Like what? What is it you're getting from this? You see, you literally feel like you hate each other, that's what.

00:24:11:21 – 00:24:37:15
And but there must have been something there at some stage. Otherwise you wouldn't stay, right? Or would you? What do you get? So are you so afraid of being alone or you feel like you can make it this work, that you stick with it? Or is it become a habit? Yeah. Of course. Common decency, stuff like, I think kindness and and,

00:24:37:17 – 00:24:59:22
You know, you know, just being nice and caring and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, obviously that's important. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, to go back to your point is what I like, you see some people and you're like, how are you still together? Yeah, there's some people, the white people that that talk to each other.

00:24:59:23 – 00:25:17:20
And I would look at the other person the way they speak to the, their partner or like, I don't know, I think I can say this, but one of my brothers had a relationship in the past, and like a duck. And I think, why? What is it like? She's horrible. Like she didn't. She was very pretty, to be honest.

00:25:17:20 – 00:25:47:09
But she was just mean and rude and it just felt like, yeah, it just felt like, I don't know, I don't understand what how if that isn't the case, then, I don't know. I mean, yeah, what would you say? Yeah, I've got a few not. I know a few people where it's, you know, I checked, you know, quite a few people where the relationship is like in the sense of, like, behavior, where it's quite, what's the word?

00:25:47:14 – 00:26:09:18
Intense. And there has been, like, comments that I'm not. That's that's pretty main man. That's pretty in and say in other in front of other people as well. And other like some, some sometimes it's like oh one way. Yeah. And it's just like they, they just sit there and take it because that's all they've ever done. Yeah. That they want to rock the boat.

00:26:09:19 – 00:26:38:10
They don't want to make it even worse. But then there's a specific couple I'm thinking of that the insults that they trade each other in front of everyone, it is like spectacular. It's like what? Like you literally just. Just go your own ways. Be happy. Like, What what what are you doing? And I think a lot of the, the, trends in these relationships is they've bought a house together.

00:26:38:14 – 00:27:04:22
Kids. They have children together. They, Yeah. So. So they'll just hate each other until their kids are old enough to know that they can fend for themselves, and then they're split up or something like that. It's not easy to split up, though. When you've been with someone for a long time and you're, you know, there's the practical issues of the house and like, who's put more money in and all that stuff, who's who's name isn't on the mortgage.

00:27:04:24 – 00:27:26:05
Yeah. You're frick and, I was having dinner yesterday about how you fucking. You've been, guarding me on this pod recently. Yeah, I have, I wouldn't have stopped. Yeah. You put a name on the fucking movie. Also, Jess, who's listening to this? She listens to every episode. She's not good. She's not happy with you, is she not?

00:27:26:05 – 00:27:45:08
No. She's not happy about the mortgage and not being on the mortgage. Right. Okay, good. Are you gonna put it on that? Yeah. You know, that makes me double down. I know that's the problem. I've gone the wrong way about this. I'll put my name down on. I'm. Then I'll put. Yeah. In brackets. Definitely not. Donna. What was I saying?

00:27:45:10 – 00:28:06:15
So. So, yeah, there's the practical difficulties of separating, but there's an emotional connection. Despite it, people are horrible to each other that even if it's an unhealthy one, it's something, right? It's something that they wouldn't have if they'd split. And the idea of going out on their own and meeting new people and trying for that process again, especially if the kids involved as well, because of kids, as you know, Rick, they become everything.

00:28:06:15 – 00:28:25:24
And you're they owe you everything. And typically what happens is if a two people were to separate, the man leaves and the kids stay with their mum, which you can understand because especially if they're younger, they are generally more attached to the physical of the physicality of their mum because they've come from that. But yeah, so there's that aspects as well.

00:28:25:24 – 00:28:49:09
So a lot of people are lots of reasons why people stay in a relationship is not healthy for both of them, but that disrespect is something I wouldn't be able to stand. I never disrespectful for my wife. And she's never disrespectful to me. I would never dream of demeaning our in front of another person. No, never never never never not not it would.

00:28:49:11 – 00:29:12:04
It's like I would defend her before anything else, you know? I mean, it's like even if she's the wrong of a defender is that. That's how I think the idea of belittling her in front of people. That's terrible. That eats me up. The thought that some like I wouldn't if I say something and I've done anything that makes her feel worse than she does currently, it sits with me like I can't get rid of it.

00:29:12:04 – 00:29:35:18
I think about it constantly. Yeah. Like in the early, early years of being a young man, just joking and being a prat, basically, with my Mrs., I have said stuff that would, embarrass her. All right. You know, I mean, but not not like, meaning to, like, deeply embarrass and constantly do it. But it was to get a cheap laugh in front of people.

00:29:35:20 – 00:29:56:12
Yeah. And it's like, do you play? And it was play for when I was young. And then you look back and you're like, that was just mean. That's that's silly. Yeah. The she no no no no absolutely not. Because it wasn't, it wasn't like proper kind. It wasn't like, how do you know she doesn't because I just know the things that I said.

00:29:56:12 – 00:30:14:00
It wasn't one of those things where you were playing up to something that she's self-conscious about, about a trait or anything like that. It wasn't something that I would. It was like a passing comment of her, I don't know, getting something wrong. And then I would repeat it, or so the saying the wrong name of something and, right, right.

00:30:14:02 – 00:30:42:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just. Yeah. Just a little gentle nagging there, but it wasn't, it wasn't anything, anything mad. But yeah, I wouldn't I would never dream of doing that. I told you want to know, I know, I know, it's actually I've seen people on, social recording their partner and then asking them questions like secret filming and asking them questions ready for the a silly answer, or like to make them look stupid.

00:30:42:13 – 00:31:04:01
And, look how silly they are. Isn't it funny? Like, like not only what is going on in your fucking head to get a laugh from changes you'll never meet and never know. You're you're you're ready to tear down. You're someone you're supposed to love. Nice. Fuck. Yeah. That's weak. And that's Terry. Is it is proper weak.

00:31:04:03 – 00:31:31:19
Going on the, the kind of opposite side of, finding a partner and attractiveness. Yeah, yeah. Big milky ones. Yeah. Don't say that. I'm misogyny. Misogyny does exist on a misogyny. Yeah. I'm right. Okay. I knew this would happen on this podcast. Apologize again. Not and I apologize. And with double down double back down double down.

00:31:31:21 – 00:32:21:07
Got the, career aspect, career ambition drive. Do you find that a turn on? Is that something that you're not? If you were to, if you were looking for, a partner and you sure they were hugely career focused, or if a, you know, someone had their own business or what? I would say it wouldn't matter to me, but I would prioritize someone who more perhaps in the tradition, the traditional atomic kind of family, I think probably so I find like a homemaker and that.

00:32:21:10 – 00:32:49:00
Right. I'd probably be more drawn towards that. And however, I don't know because I've, I've only had two serious relationships in my life, and you can't help but think about your current relationship when you ask these questions. Sure. But I think my preference out of the two would be, yeah, that traditional sort of family. Yeah. With someone, a woman who is a homemaker and is adopts traditional roles and, you know.

00:32:49:00 – 00:33:06:04
Yeah, that's what I do. And Oli is that right. She does that. And it's not to say she's not interested in a career and she's not she's she's entrepreneurial and she's going to, you know, she's going to be starting a new business this year. So she does. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. When, when it gets up and running we'll talk about it.

00:33:06:04 – 00:33:32:24
But the the so she has that on her. But she's fundamentally I think firstly a someone who kind of enjoys the traditional roles. So I think we, we match quite, quite well. Yeah. Like, I don't know what he Yeah. Sort of like there's nothing wrong with that as well. I think some people feel a bit sheepish talking about that, like a traditional family, in the way that you were brought up to believe that they are.

00:33:33:04 – 00:33:55:07
That's when I say traditional. I'm just meaning that. I'm meaning that that's what was commonplace for a long time in Great Britain. And things change completely, obviously. And and that's fine. Everyone should be free to create the world that they feel comfortable in. Yeah, I think that I still I still quite like that. So and you know, Oli is quite traditional and I'd say I'm relatively traditional as well.

00:33:55:07 – 00:34:19:18
So we found, I would say I would prefer that rather than a career driven woman. But that's not to say, you know, I would happily, you know, if Oli was, was like much more into that than being the way she was, then I would still be Ollie's open mouth. Yeah, yeah, but I think people become, What's the word I'm looking for?

00:34:19:23 – 00:34:41:02
Not frightened, but a bit like, If they do come across a career driven woman or something. Very, very ambitious. Yeah. Scary. A bit like. Nah, I mean, that's. Oh, that she earns more money than them, you know? I mean, like, it's a bit like. Oh. Oh, you mean there? I'm the, Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's it. I wouldn't feel threatened now, baby.

00:34:41:02 – 00:34:56:23
Great. It'd be great if she meant it as well. I mean, not as well as as she had money as well I because I, you know, as she knows she does her money. I got to be really careful. This is such an awkward. She does have money. But if she was like a millionaire, I wouldn't mind. Yeah, I'll be fine.

00:34:57:01 – 00:35:16:17
But, I think people know us from from now, though, if we do say something that might be, near the line or not, you know, politically correct again, I don't mean near the line. I just mean, like, saying things that she's going to. She might hear it and go, what do you mean? I don't know, money. I work, I work full time.

00:35:16:17 – 00:35:40:15
I was like, yes, right. It's more that, okay, I say, I say yeah, with I mean, like with my sister's, me she's good. She's gonna be the breadwinner soon. This is what I'm talking about. Well, get about it. Exactly what I'm getting. I'm saying. Yeah, you got to tuck your little willy up. Yeah. Now you Sellotape it round the back.

00:35:40:15 – 00:36:07:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put, you know, most of our time we've been together, you know, I've traditionally been the breadwinner, which is, you know, absolutely fine. And it's the traditional sense of what you what you were saying as well in that relationship and that dynamic. But my Mrs. is training at the moment, you know, I'll, I'll go into it more.

00:36:07:15 – 00:36:31:01
But she what she's doing and when she's fully qualified the you know hopefully the money that she most definitely the money that she's earning at the moment as a teaching assistant compared to what she's doing now going to be doing, it's going to be vastly different. And the money that you can earn from it is is a lot.

00:36:31:01 – 00:36:48:10
Yeah, yeah yeah. And good, good ones are in demand on a day. They most certainly aren't they. Most certainly. Yeah. Good ones I took. Yeah. Good ones. What would you eat. Well she could be doing anything. People can think of what she done. She's going to be a she's going to she can be a woman of the night.

00:36:48:12 – 00:37:04:15
Yeah. No, she's trying to be a driving instructor. Yeah. They work. Yeah they do. Like, you can earn lots of money and good luck and say good ones are in high demand, especially female ones as well, because some women don't like that. Actually, some people don't like to be taught by men, but some women have a calm demeanor.

00:37:04:17 – 00:37:38:16
That's right. She should be. What are you going to call a business? I don't know, and it's, you know, it's it's got to be like driving. We've done our driving. Done, something like bomba. Bomba. I'll suggest that to her as well. See what she says about that. But with that dynamic of me kind of being the the guy that, you know, how it's the purse strings, how to speak, it's going to be a totally different dynamic because she will be out earning me easily.

00:37:38:17 – 00:37:57:04
It won't be a conversation, though, will it? No, no, I don't think it will. Well, the name's on the mortgage then when she's on the moon, you know. No it's not, it wasn't. What is that? What is it about? I still don't understand. Because at the time when we bought the house, yeah, it was me who applied for it.

00:37:57:04 – 00:38:18:12
And it was so in my name, in the mortgage, and we couldn't apply for her. What? I got to be careful. Careful what you say, right. I'll just leave. Yeah, yeah. I'll just. I'll just leave it at that, put a name on it. But, we just haven't got round to. Fair enough. Renewing. And, I mean, we've I've been married to Ollie for years.

00:38:18:12 – 00:38:39:05
We still haven't changed the name. Have you know, she's still in the furrow. It's a bit a little bit more complicated. She's a Swiss national, so, but surely if she comes under your name and you're married, doesn't that make her a British citizen now or something? You know, it's not an indefinite leave to remain anyway. So. So she never has to go back to Switzerland if she doesn't want to.

00:38:39:05 – 00:39:02:21
But she doesn't have a British passport. Her sister applied for a British passport. Got denied even. Actually. Swiss. What the fuck? Well, she's not there. Swiss. It's like if you come from fucking Spain and live here alone, can you go? Can I have a British? But we know British national coastguard. Yeah, I know, but I still, I still will after you marry someone, but, you know.

00:39:02:23 – 00:39:24:12
No, I can go to Switzerland. Yeah. American. Swiss national. I will. Not a Swiss national, but I can. I can enter visa free. I think it's right. There's something basic is one of the perks of marrying a Swiss national. I can go to the country and stay for as long as I want, basically. That's interesting. I never knew that so well, babe.

00:39:24:14 – 00:39:52:06
So basically my, the the dynamics going to change in my house somewhat. She's quite happy go around. Yeah, yeah, even more so then. Then. Yeah, exactly. Then she she does now. And I will be a bit like, let's go, let's fucking go. Yeah I don't mind. It's it's not, it's not something that, intimidates me or, you know, scares me or I'm kind of like my nose put out a joint or anything like that.

00:39:52:06 – 00:40:15:10
I'm like, fucking fine. That's absolutely great. So I'm not to not to foster that. I'm not. Now. Switzerland. Rich marrying a Swiss Swiss citizen does not automatically entitled to Swiss citizenship. However, it makes you eligible for simplifies naturalization procedure. I'm not going to live in Switzerland. I'm not sure. What does that mean? Well, I'll live there. I'll go and live in that country.

00:40:15:12 – 00:40:38:21
Really? Yeah, yeah. Why not? It's beautiful there. Yeah, exactly. All right. Come. What would you say? Well, you know, we, we just get straight into it. What? The attraction side. Physical. Yeah. Yeah, I like how you trying to fucking crowbar in some sort of woke nonsense? What? What the feelings. One of the shop. Let's get.

00:40:38:21 – 00:41:06:19
But you just get to get his jacket. That's right. Okay. What what what race is least attractive to. Oh, my God, that's. You've gone straight in there. Jesus Christ, I mean, I is it racist to not find a certain race attractive? No, because I just you you're you're just, you know, in a skin color. No, no, it's not on.

00:41:06:21 – 00:41:11:01
No, no. Not you. You're.

00:41:11:03 – 00:41:35:21
Maybe because you're brown. Do you find naturally find brown women more attractive? Do you think? No. Do you find property more attracted the. Not than I find brown brown women utter I don't know how how are you how attractive you find brown. How long have we known each other? Long time. Yeah, yeah, 20 odd years. You should know enough about me.

00:41:35:23 – 00:41:57:23
Well, I've never seen you with a brown woman. I've been with Brown sun. I haven't really, So, number one, what? You said that I find this one no attractive. Start with the best, right? The best. I, and and I'm quite,

00:41:58:00 – 00:42:33:20
You know, meat and potatoes. Quite, you know, root one on this one. As a young boy, my growing up watching the TV screen. Pamela Anderson when I was a kid. Not, not it looks nothing like your, your wife. No, no I know, I mean Pamela Anderson is a tap in because when you, when she was huge a we're a kid watching Baywatch on a but it was scandalous really that what people didn't realize there were like ten year old boys across the country watching by Baywatch fucking rampant.

00:42:33:22 – 00:42:55:13
Like, yeah, just you just just sit there like with just with a rock on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll for sure. When I was younger, my mate bought me this, postcard and it was a picture of, Pamela Anderson. She, you know, she had two apps out, of course. It's actually not. She didn't have them out.

00:42:55:15 – 00:43:17:19
I think she did. She ever did topless stuff? Did she or she did she not? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, well, I'll Google it. I'm pretty sure she, She did, but when how the photo was taken. It was taken right where her, like, hips were. Like where the pubic region was. Oh, yes. She like to see loads of topless.

00:43:17:19 – 00:43:36:00
Yeah. So you could see like the first few kind of pubes there. Yes. But not. But it didn't go, you know, is that. Leave it to the imagination. I used to get that card and try and look down, just to see if I could. See if I could see anything. Just keep going down. But I couldn't. There was nothing there.

00:43:36:00 – 00:44:04:19
Nothing. Nothing more but that I for. No sorry that AA5 postcards. Oh that was that's okay. Yeah. Did it just ignited that, blond bombshell in me that has has been a lie ever since the. I would say blond white women are my least favorite. I don't know, I you know, I did know that I didn't. Yeah, I know that about you.

00:44:04:21 – 00:44:30:00
Not my least favorite, but I don't I'm not really attracted to blonds then, because when I was, when I grew up, I had blond hair and my mum was blond. I think it might be that it was like, yeah, it was two, like, I don't know, close to home, like maybe packing. So so always sort of Mediterranean brown Brunet tells you.

00:44:30:01 – 00:44:44:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah. So we would always find that attractive. Yeah. So when you say tradition. So that's number one was number two.

00:44:44:17 – 00:44:59:00
I don't know actually. How would you like. You're so scared. I am scared, I am, I'm petrified. What's your number? Say, you fucking, number two, I would say.

00:44:59:02 – 00:45:29:02
Weirdly, you know, I'm not attracted to pay for of pan-Asian. Pan-Asian. Right. Okay. Which one's pan-Asian? All of it. Oh. So it. So, India. Yeah. No. East East Asia, like. No, like South Korea. Japan. All right. Not nice. Yeah. All of Asia. Chinese. Right. Okay. Yeah. Right. Indonesia. Vietnam. Not. No, it's not for me.

00:45:29:05 – 00:45:49:00
Right. And this is something all of the all of the icons I was fucking. Oh, man. Yeah. That's, that's a lot that's been wiped out. Don't show me none of them. Show me. No, no, not right. Okay. That's fine, that's fine I it's what is it though. Like, what is it like? It's norm. Obviously you're not going to find some races attractive.

00:45:49:06 – 00:46:11:22
There's obviously attractive people everywhere for sure. Yeah. No matter where you go. But the it's, that's so different from what you grow up with that. But I know, I know a couple of my mates, one of them each. All he's interested in is different ethnicities. It's almost like really. Yeah. Like a, like a tick list, like Pokemon.

00:46:11:23 – 00:46:37:15
He doesn't talk about it. It's not like he's made it a thing. But we just noticed that that anyone he gets with his is the opposite of what he's grown up with. Right? It's interesting. Yeah, he's especially a lover of the ladies from. Yeah. Where? Well, lots of places, but. Right. Dark fruits. Right. Okay. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah.

00:46:37:15 – 00:46:58:23
But some people are saying that they're not happy with that. And they say it's like a fetish. Yeah, I like white people date and black women, it's like white people fetishize in different races. I'm like, give us a break. I might just be. You might just fancy. Fancy. That's what he's into. Yeah. Why does it have to be so negative.

00:46:59:00 – 00:47:15:13
Yeah. I didn't know that that that there's this. Yeah. It's like this you. It was so there's lots of not lots of. I've seen I've read this off anyway. But there are some people in the race and they'll say well they should you should only date people of your own race. Oh that's that's not. No. That happens. Right.

00:47:15:14 – 00:47:44:02
And I'm not talking about inside white race. I'm talking about other races that say don't fight, don't mate with not mate, but don't yeah, don't go outside the social world. Don't date white people. Yeah. So don't dilute the. Yeah. Gene pool. Yeah. Yeah I can say that mental stuff get said. Yeah I mean like let's just that if you just fancy him just slap bang, you know, I mean, if that's.

00:47:44:06 – 00:47:46:23
That's us.

00:47:47:00 – 00:48:12:16
If you just find it just like, like in, like without the, the boobs, the bum or that bum that actually someone getting married and saying that, in their old age, they've become partial to cheekbones. Cheekbones is really what J. Bones. Yeah. I'm just, I don't know, like you, like, you know, you've got, someone with,

00:48:12:18 – 00:48:37:12
Would you say that be strong cheekbones or jaw? Sophie Ellis-Bextor. I know, I know a few people that do really like, but she is a triangular face. Tight, you know, that that. Yeah. She she she's a particular. She's very striking, but I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say it's like, you know, like another woman who's really striking is, she's married to the geezer at a busted.

00:48:37:14 – 00:48:56:08
I can't remember her name. She's a presenter. She does like a cat. Emma Willis. Yeah, she is obviously striking. Okay, then you can tell that she was a model. But do I find that really attractive? I'd say no. Yeah, I do absolutely adore her. This conversation before she died, they lived in Crouch End. Yeah, I'd seen her loads of times.

00:48:56:08 – 00:49:18:11
Yeah, I am, I went into, I went into a corner shop, all right. And as I was going through the aisle, someone was coming towards me and they looked at me and when they smiled and said, oh, excuse me. And I looked at them, and that just kind of flattened out my body side to get passed. And there's Emma Willis and the.

00:49:18:16 – 00:49:42:07
I looked into her eyes and how blue her eyes, what it was. I just I was literally standing there for nine minutes, just frozen. I it was incredible. Utterly incredible. Yeah. She says yes. She was very striking. And but to me it was almost like it's not my cup of tea. Really. I don't really like I wouldn't say athletic women.

00:49:42:07 – 00:50:07:03
No. My favorite. It would be more curvy and soft. Right? Right. Okay. Yeah. I am yeah. I'm I'm with you on that for sure, because, yeah, I, I mean, I, I, you know what? I'm. No, I'm a dirty the dirty pig's dirty little pig. I'll do anything about not pulling. Not pulling when you go out in the night.

00:50:07:03 – 00:50:27:03
Out. Yeah I wouldn't, it wouldn't be I'd find I find lots of people attractive I don't like. I'm not really particular. Like I went on a night out. It wouldn't be like it wouldn't be. I'm looking for the face. Go in the place it would be. I was looking for someone to match my energy, basically. And. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:27:03 – 00:50:52:15
It didn't matter if, it didn't really matter to me. I'd find anybody, most people attractive, which is, you know, helpful. Like talking about that. The, like, matching your, energy. Like yesterday when I was with my missus, like. I mean, my missus is actually in the house at the moment, so she could probably hear what I'm saying.

00:50:52:17 – 00:51:11:20
So I had to be, quiet, fairly quiet. Because if I'm complimentary, I don't want it to hear it. Do you ever serve the driven? You're beautiful. And I love you. Of course I fucking do. You do? Give me a little kiss in the necklace like that. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Of course, of course they did.

00:51:12:01 – 00:51:36:23
Oh my God, I've just done a massive. I'm. I'm lucky these fucking things here for my, my. Yeah. That's that's got Covid written all over it was landed there. But the energy of when we were just in London, the playfulness, the messing around her coat and me off. Yeah. All those things where you're just, like, fading.

00:51:37:00 – 00:51:58:02
I just felt 18 again. That's not me young, you know, just being acting silly. And it was just. Yeah, playful and all those things. And I was, I, you know, when it's like, this is the place I'm supposed to be. Yeah, I'm having one of those moments. And you just that, there isn't a single time where I'm just like.

00:51:58:04 – 00:52:25:04
I like, there isn't anyone that makes me laugh as much as her. And that is just reads me so well, and it's it's again that the energy of it's not the, the opposite, you know, like opposites attract. Someone's really loud and someone's really quiet. Oh, you know, all those things. But, we're both kind of, like, vibe off each other.

00:52:25:04 – 00:52:46:02
And then it goes, it peaks and troughs and. But it's just, it's that nice that I have that, mate, it's not nice. It's in synergy. It's amazing. It's. Yeah. You can't like what you found is what if lots of people might never. And that. And you're right, that's some other person to kind of be with. And even when you're not saying anything, you just want to be in the room with them.

00:52:46:02 – 00:53:03:09
That's if you can find that and have that. That's that's an amazing thing. And and sometimes it happens later on in a relationship or later on in life. But the fact that you met her so young and I should. I know why as well. Because when I'm with her, you can see what's amazing. She is. And everyone loves her.

00:53:03:09 – 00:53:22:20
Everyone loves her. No one. No one's thunder and gone, she's horrible. Like. Yeah, everybody loves her. So, Yeah, man, it's a good thing we're, I'm looking for. We're going now. Oh, me? Soon we. Oh, yeah. Are you. You haven't done many months ago. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm coming. And then, we were looking at. We're looking at yesterday.

00:53:22:20 – 00:53:40:16
Same witness our next day out. Have you got, a hotel? But, I don't think we have got a hotel, but can you go back on the road? You going back on the train if. Yeah. Well, we'll be back on try if I need to. Fucking have a look to make sure that it's. There's no, Which call it.

00:53:40:18 – 00:54:04:18
How are you going to go on a train like this? I can do that. Fuck. You know, if you guys could see this, you would, kind of love it. What was going to say, to finish this bit off as well? Like, when you are, like, what I've just described that, you know, matching the energy and what you said about.

00:54:04:20 – 00:54:37:02
And when you're, like, looking for a partner, people are like, very like you said, when you went out, you didn't have a list. You didn't have that, she has to be, big breasted. She has to have a, you know, a booty on her or anything like that. So if there's any and any people that, they haven't got a partner and they are in the market, shall we say, I would say, don't be so head up on that.

00:54:37:02 – 00:55:04:00
She's got a be a or he has got to be a knockout bombshell. Do you know what I mean? Or that they have to be earning a certain amount. They have to be, you know, six foot three, all those things. Just if you find someone that matches your energy and you're vibing with each other, then only greatness will come of it, is what I'll say.

00:55:04:02 – 00:55:22:05
And yeah, I think it's, just don't get too caught up on physical attraction and what people do and say and actually what they say. That doesn't matter because they might be a massive racist and you don't want to go down, down that route because that's just. Yeah, no one wants to be going out of a racist day.

00:55:22:05 – 00:55:40:08
They so I mean some something there's something attractive about it. Weirdly. One of the things I really like about Ollie is she's being racist.

00:55:40:10 – 00:56:09:23
Fuck. You know, I will leave that the the topic for next week. What situation would absolutely terrify you? What's the most frightening position you could be in? A cable car just snapped in Napoli. And people put it to their death. In America, a helicopter imploded and dropped into the Hudson River, alone at sea, trapped in darkness in a cave.

00:56:10:00 – 00:56:34:10
Send us an email or DM us on social about the things that you are absolutely terrified to happen to you at. Lads on pod at gmail.com. The dilemma for this week is called which one? And something none of you know is it's okay, he's dead now. It's a bit of a different one for something. I know you know, but it's,

00:56:34:15 – 00:56:42:06
Yeah, a different one. So we're now going to jump straight into dilemma.

00:56:42:08 – 00:57:13:06
Oh. So, just you got an issue for a tissue? You're a big fat cat when you aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky flat. Good. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve big. Like you're safe here to get nice warm between you and.

00:57:13:08 – 00:57:40:19
Which one? Highlights. Got a problem that I could use your help with. In a few weeks, I'll be going to a friend's wedding, which I'm looking forward to, but I have a bit of a potential issue. The issue is a couple of girls that I sort of need to choose between. The first girl is someone who I've slept with about 4 or 5 times and honestly can say it's the best sex of my life.

00:57:40:21 – 00:58:04:14
Although she's a nice girl, we don't quite click in terms of personality. Girl two is someone who I've known for a while and we get on quite well and have similar personalities. She's quite reserved and we haven't slept together, but I think I could see a future with her. So at the wedding, do I try and crack on with girl one and have ten out of ten sex?

00:58:04:16 – 00:58:21:08
Or do I spend time with girl two and try and get somewhere with her on a romantic level? Cheers, lads. What, you want to do this at the wedding where both of them are going to be there? Yeah. All right. See that you're going to. Yeah. You can decide which one you go with while they're both in the exact same room.

00:58:21:10 – 00:58:45:08
Yeah. So what? I mean, like if, if you go for the, ten out of ten, you know, it's guaranteed to have sex at the wedding. Yeah, that's what will happen. He he's going to he's going to. Yeah, of course he is. He's gonna go in into the room all intensive to maybe all with the intent to speak to the, the girl that he thinks there might be a future with, but it'll have a few beers and then just crack on with the girl that has sex with 100%.

00:58:45:10 – 00:59:14:03
Right. Okay. Should he do? I mean, there's plenty of time. I think, you know, the long gameplay, the long game and the short game at the same time. So this 810 fuck. The plan is how we sign with number two. I didn't really think of it like that. Oh no, it's more like work on work on the one that you want to spend the rest of your life with, then have sex with the one that you don't.

00:59:14:05 – 00:59:33:00
And yeah, I mean, like, as long as everyone's happy. Yeah, it no matter what I say normal. But you would call it B laying the groundwork for lady number two, and you'd be spending a lot of time of there and stuff. And then as soon as you kind of tweak that, nothing's really gonna happen that night or at all.

00:59:33:02 – 00:59:51:19
Then you would wander off and find skill and move on. And actually, do you think the girl that you, do you think the girl is he thinks there might be a future with would be upset if he was having sex with another girl, even though they're not going out. Yes, but if they're not going out, why would she be upset?

00:59:51:21 – 01:00:15:21
It's just, I don't know, it's like. Yeah, it is the way it is. How could you be into me when you're being nice? Because that's you at that stage you can be into more than one people person. Yeah. Of course, I mean the logistics and thinking about logic. Yeah, sure. Logic. So, yeah. Yeah, of course, that absolutely makes sense.

01:00:15:23 – 01:00:38:18
But on the flip side, it doesn't like we don't know the context. These girls might know each other and it's like, right, okay, I know we've got a long term future and relationship, but you were with Margaret. How interested are you going to be with me if you're banging Margaret? Yeah. Exactly right. If they know each other, then I'll probably not them.

01:00:38:20 – 01:01:03:21
Yeah, I mean, I would the person that the romantic level try and suss out early doors like where, like where, where you're both at. Because she might be seeing someone else. She might be interested in someone, that she might be not up for a relationship. She might, I don't know, I think you have to kind of have that, have a few drinks, get bit Dutch courage and just ask her out.

01:01:03:21 – 01:01:24:06
Right? If anything, you could see anything go in or after the wedding. It's fancy grabbing a coffee, you know, wink, wink, that type of thing. Like we'll go on a date type. And if it's like, yeah, I'd like you more as your friend. It's not really going anywhere, you know? Then you know, mate, then, you know, true.

01:01:24:07 – 01:02:00:05
There you go. And, when you jump into something, only, you know, something, you know, it's okay. He's dead now. Many plots ago, you touched on sleep paralysis while chatting about ghosts and supernatural. I remember that part. It was. I fucking love doing that part. The more at those. I'm not really a believer in that sort of thing, but I've experienced some weird stuff during sleep paralysis over the years.

01:02:00:07 – 01:02:25:05
I've been dealing with it for as long as I can remember. Can't imagine that 20 odd years of Party Powder and Disco Biscuits did much to help. There's one experience I've never shared with anyone. I figured it's time. Back in my early 20s, I went through a stretch where sleep paralysis hit hard. For about a week, I kept having the same terrifying episode.

01:02:25:07 – 01:02:51:06
I'd be lying on my back, staring at the ceiling. I couldn't move a muscle, but I could move my eyes around me. These black, shadowy objects would fly through the room, brushing against my legs. It felt like ghosts, honestly. Each night they'd get closer to my face. Then one evening, one of the black figures came into focus. It was a young girl.

01:02:51:08 – 01:03:19:11
I can still remember her face clearly. She didn't say anything at the time. The next night I was already dreading sleep but eventually drifted off and it happened again. This time the girl was standing by my side, talking to someone else. I couldn't see. Then another figure slid up from the end of the bed. I was so terrified I started vomiting and choking.

01:03:19:13 – 01:03:56:00
Or at least it felt like cut it, I couldn't breathe. Then the girl turned to the other figure and said, it's okay, he's dead now. I woke up instantly, the taste of sick in my mouth, but no signs that I'd actually been sick. Still, the most frightening thing I've ever experienced. For about a week after I was knocking back Pro Plus and coffee at night, doing laps around my flat just to stay awake, I told my partner at the time that I just had a lot on my mind, but really, I was scared to close my eyes.

01:03:56:02 – 01:04:32:13
Even now, 20 years later, I still get the occasional episode, but nothing like that one. First time I've shared that lesson here. Probably don't do drugs kids and that is something funny. I know it's trying to think of any experiences on drugs where I've done that. Really. And experiences like that. I don't, I've, I've been so high, I don't know where I'm awake or asleep and feel like I'm in a dream.

01:04:32:15 – 01:04:58:24
Like there's, there was one moment iffy about God messing about 12 years ago, maybe ten years ago, you might have even been there. But as me and my mate Lee. Oh, yeah. And you know, Lee. And then we would. We've taken so many, so many pills that we were so mangled that we were having conversations with each other, but about two different things.

01:04:58:24 – 01:05:15:06
I thought he was responding to me. Yeah. And he thought I was responding to him. But we were talking about different things. And then waking up and coming to gone. What the fuck that was? That was a that was too much like, hey, if you're going to I mean, don't take any drugs, but like, you know, half a pill when you arrive.

01:05:15:07 – 01:05:23:16
That's fine. Yeah. Taking so much at home, you're having imaginary conversations with your mate. Yeah, that's too much.

01:05:23:18 – 01:05:46:10
It's too much that you can't to be father. Yeah. The the the things that, like pillow talk, like when things jump out your mouth and you don't know how or why it's even got there. Yeah. Because you're rushing so hard that you then you kind of come too into the real world and you say something to make it look like that you're not Russian and that you are with everyone.

01:05:46:10 – 01:06:13:09
And then the things that come out is just insane. Yeah, that's that's when it's, you can't see hard, you know, that's, that's happened to me quite a few times. But yeah, I didn't ever envisage that being that mangled ever again. Na na na na na na na. So the topic for next week again is what situation would absolutely terrify you?

01:06:13:11 – 01:06:39:14
Like the most frightening position to be in. I saw this, clip actually. Maybe it was on Tik Tok. Doesn't matter. But in Russia, when the rivers freeze over, they cut squares into the river, and then you jump into those squares and you hold on to either side. Yeah. And was submerged. And, you know, you do that, you know, the cold water thing and refreshing.

01:06:39:14 – 01:07:05:11
And I think it happens during a certain time of year, maybe new year for like a ceremonial refreshing of a year, something like that. Yeah. And you're supposed to just grab the sides and, and lower yourself in. And what happened is this lady in front of her husband and children, she had adrenaline or whatever had happened. She she jumped into this thing.

01:07:05:11 – 01:07:32:24
So she went down. And she's not supposed to she's supposed to grab on and lower herself that because the current of the river was quite strong. When she went down, she went past the square. Never saw her again. Oh my lord. Yeah, yeah, I do think about the moments, like where the realization that she's fucked up, like in the cable, cause when they hear a ping and you're like, yeah.

01:07:33:00 – 01:07:51:14
Oh, my God, this is the end. Falling in and crushed by the fall. And then, like, blob bobbing around in the ocean like, you know, see what's underneath you. Because a shark knows you're a. Yeah. You don't know this, I.

01:07:51:16 – 01:08:16:18
I, imagine that you just in a pitch black, right? You're in the water. It's like oil. The water's so dark. Yeah. And you feel a bump on your leg. Oh, Jesus Christ. And you're just waiting. You're waiting to be attacked. Yeah, but I wouldn't buy a, like, a 500 pound bit of muscle with two. Yeah, yeah. Jagged teeth.

01:08:16:23 – 01:08:36:21
Oh my God. Horrible safe. I am as well. Was the anniversary of the Titanic sinking the other day. I think it's like 112 years or something like that, that one of the accounts that I was reading is that when the boat sank and all the lights went out on how pitch black it would have been in the middle of the ocean in subzero conditions.

01:08:36:21 – 01:08:55:12
You wouldn't at see in front of your face, mate, you just bobbing up and down in the ocean in utter darkness, not knowing what's going on. You can just hit, I we'll go into this next week, Nazi Party, but. Yeah, exactly. All that stuff, all that stuff. And until then, we will see you on Monday. Thank you.

01:08:55:12 – 01:08:56:08
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