#102 | Hangovers | The Best Way To Beat A Hangover

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Go.

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We put this festival on, you bastards with a lot of love. We work for one year for you pigs. And you want to break our walls down, but you want to destroy it. Will you go to hell? Don't ever. Man. And, Mate. Are you, are you getting a bit of mate? Did you? Do you know, I said I sent I sent you that this morning.

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I know you did. So I saw. I didn't know if that was just a coincidence. I thought I'd never seen the original footage when, you know. No, never. The first time I saw, I thought I was educating you, but obviously not. It's, It was great. The great? The one of the weaker albums of this giant gas packet.

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It's got gas panic on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's got it's got a couple of bangers on there, but it isn't my. If I'm listening lists. Oasis. I don't run to stand on the shoulders of giants. No, no, I wouldn't either. I did listen to it loads when it came out. My big mouth and my God.

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Yeah, I put on my shoes while I'm walking slowly down the Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's on that, isn't it? Yes it is. Yeah it is, I'm pretty sure is that they all just like rolling into one now. I mean, after, Which corner? What's the story? You kind of get a bit lost in it. Oh, have you been.

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I've done. Because obviously my algo is fucking Oasis, isn't it? Obviously. So this week I've been while I've been scrolling. There's been a lot of people outside Cardiff's. Is it the Principality Stadium? Is that the first one? Cardiff. Is it? So as we're recording it is Friday the 4th of July and it's tonight and it's tonight. The first Oasis gig.

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The first reunion back is happening in Cardiff tonight. Now during the week there has been a few people and they've been standing outside Cardiff Stadium and they have been obviously filming themselves, but they can hear the soundchecks go in and yeah, so you can just hear it rumble in the background and I'm like, you know what? It was building up to it.

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I tried to get tickets. I couldn't get tickets. I'd love to go. I love Oasis, but I'm at a stage. Well, I thought I was at a stage where I've been to, I don't know, I've been. See, Oasis maybe eight times or something like that. I've even gone to ruin near Paris to go and see them with my mates and I'm 42.

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I'm kind of like past that bit of my life now and where I was at that time. And I'm like, yeah, I, you know, I'd love to see them if it happens. It happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I, I'm then I've seen that stuff and I'm like fucking how I want to go. And then you sent me that fucking in the bushes in try.

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And I was just like when you're in this stadium, right. And maybe you are there for the support acts maybe and not Kasabian are on and you're like, oh, this is call it a great laugh. You're waiting around in a peanut for a ciggie you're going to get a pint. You're looking at when are they on you on that you want to say it's not 8:10 now and then you hear that intro rocket through the stadium and everyone's just like shoves to the front and you know it's going to go on top.

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It's going to be fucking a big, beautiful, chaotic mess. Yeah. And I was like, I want to be in that. I do, I do want to be in it. But here's the kind of caveat to it. So a lot of my mates from back in Milton Keynes, they've got tickets. They've got tickets for Sunday the 3rd of August, I believe.

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Now I fly to Spain on Monday the 4th of August the next day. Definitely. My flight isn't. It's one definitely go to the Oasis. I think the airport spare ticket rig. There will be a spare ticket and I've already thought, do I? Do I just do it? Yeah. The old me would be. Yeah. I'll be all right.

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Yeah. Be all right with the flight. You will be all right. Fine. I'll be all right. I'll be all right. But we know I won't be all right. I mean, don't listen, Rick. Don't not listen to that voice. That voice isn't here to help. You will be fine, Rick. You're going to have a great time. Oasis. With your mates in the sun.

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I know I didn't cigarets a couple of pills. You'll be fine. What's up? You go up in the airport. You know, nine in the morning, nine in the morning. Jesus Christ from Wembley as well. I mean, oh my God, I don't want to spoil the spoiler, but we've already introduced it. The fact that this episode is about hangovers.

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Yeah, you're not great with those. So I would say that, you hundred percent have to go. I would love to hear about everything you get up to, and then you have to be at the Alpha airport from where you live. You know, it's not that bad. It's like 40 minutes. Luton. So it's not. It's not too bad.

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40 minutes. Out. Yeah. Off. Out on no sleep. Boiling hot car B it feels sick. Yeah I know I'm trying to stay upbeat for the kids and wife. You know you don't want to look at that. No. No. Definitely not. Have all the luggage as well go the, have you got the boarding passes? Have you got the euros?

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You know, all of that. So you go to five. But also what I was going to say that obviously got my mates and that whole kind of nostalgia feel to it, that would be great if it wasn't on the day that it was. Also, my missus is never seen Oasis and I would love to go to races with her on that side.

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You have five of us go, Oh God, Jesus Christ. You know when you go on a holiday, you're going to especially my ass when you go and going on holiday and you go into the room the day before and there's suitcases and clothes everywhere. Yeah. Can you imagine doing that on my hangover? Mother and father just absolutely ruined from the day before.

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And the kids hanging out there. God, I, no, you're probably better off. You're probably better off out there, but I am. I don't care that I'm not going. It doesn't bother me. Or if someone offered me a ticket, I'd consider it. But I'm not. I'm not that bothered. But like you say, I've seen them loads of times.

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I saw them in the park, and I don't think they'll be better than that. And know my experiences of Oasis concerts. But generally there are so many fucking knobs here I just can't move for dickheads. Yeah. And so. And what? You can tolerate that in your 20s because you're one of the dickheads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But as for me, I'll just be looking around and get me away from these people.

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I can tell it. I know, I know, that's how I'd feel. So I wouldn't be able to enjoy it, right? Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. I mean, even if I was just like, oh, I got four tickets, I got one for you and I'll let you. You want to go? Yeah. Go, 160 maybe if it was. Yeah I would, I would, I would if it was because if you got fame, I think you feel like if you got female energy around you, that's a positive thing.

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The older I get, I need, I need a bit of female energy. I think for my wife. Just keep me in check so I don't go off doing, you know, mental stuff. Yeah. Not drinking too much and like, like, I'm, I'm. I couldn't tell you much about Solomon. The deejay. Right. Serbian or Bosnian deejay. I can't remember which one.

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He is so pleased that we've interview Serb or Bosnian, but he's, I don't know much about him, but I know I'm going into a gig. It's a five hour long gig on on the Southbank at the, Royal Navy Academy or something like that, but it's just low tempo house music for five hours and some five hours.

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Don't know. Yeah, I think you might say I'm a know. Yeah, I think it'll be fun. Those days are normally fun. Yeah, it's just a few beers in that cost. Yeah. Quid. What is it with all these? I dunno if it's me getting old, but every gig knows hundred quid. Oh you quit, that's how much we won. And you know what?

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Robert Smith of is it Robert Smith for the cure. It is. Yeah. He said he goes, because they don't have a manager. They don't have agents. He just deals with everything himself. He's a yeah. Him. Yeah, he's a legend. He said he you know how much it cost to go and watch the cure. 28 pound, something like that.

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2428. Yeah. You guys, that's more than enough. It's loads of money. Yeah, loads of money. He goes, he gets messages and emails from managers of other bands saying can you, what are you doing? And he goes, what do you mean what am I doing? So you have to up your prices. Well, I have to make up your prices so you don't look bad.

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Stop fleecing people. And that's what's happening. I mean, I mean, people will pay for the experience, but the tickets for these Oasis gigs are too expensive. Yeah, and they take McCrae too expensive. And like, when Radiohead come back, there'll be £75 plus it's, you know, like, football transfers, the, you know, average player was 30 million. And now it's like average player is 60 million.

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Yeah. Right. And it's just like gigs have gone from £30 to now. £80. It's just just what you pay. Just what you got. I think we were watching, Glasto and my daughters love Olivia Rodrigo. So obviously they were watching that. Yeah. And I sat down to watch you with them and I was like, you know, just seeing the joy in their faces and stuff.

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And then I went away to unload the dishwasher, and I could hear it in the background in the next room, but I singing along and they were singing along. And then I heard her say, I'm going to bring out a very special guest. It's Robert Smith. And I said, that's not Robert Smith from The Cure. There's no way.

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And I walked into the front room and it's on the telly. And I just went fucking oh, it's Robert Smith from The Cure. And I sat down. What was it? The robotics, I don't know. What was he doing? You know, my favorite thing from Glastonbury was when, Rod Stewart wheeled out, what's his name? Eavis. Martin. But the guy who runs the.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we hold him out in a wheelchair. So kissed him on the head when you can stay there and watch it if you want. And it was like it left. It's a sign. It's wheelchair and it's side of the state. So it was up. Michael like leaving. But I said yeah, yeah. You know, it was you.

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Was you one of the people who got furious with, the headline acts of, 1975 and, was everyone Charlie execs? I wouldn't say I was furious. No, I was most gammon I've ever been. I've never been so gammon in that moment. You know what it is? A Ricky is right. They've got to pick someone. And I guess they've got to pick someone who's going to be popular.

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But popular doesn't mean good. It's a no when these people are objectively bad. Yeah. Like, I think if you ask 100 people, is this actually you wouldn't like, you know, the majority of people voted in Trump. The majority of people voted for the to to leave the European Union. You can't trust people. Yeah. Trust me, I'll make the right decision.

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See this. And 1 in 75 were awful. Yeah. Objectively bad. They're not they're not. It's not that they're bad musicians. It's just he's a cock. He's a cock. And I hate the music. I Ibiza a they are my modern day bands that I absolutely fucking live. Number one. Number one for me. Now, what you were saying about, the popular, it doesn't mean that they're good.

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Now, I kind of get it because they need to sell tickets and they need a they need new blood. They need people to come in and experience Glastonbury rock and roses. Now, are you old? Isn't it? It's just past. Yeah. And it's kind of like. Who is the vibe merchants on TikTok. Okay. But who are those guys that are in demand at Glastonbury is they don't have to do that.

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They know if they put Glastonbury on sale now, Ricky, with no lineup, those tickets would sell out instantly. I've tried for 14 years to try and get tickets. Never got one. I think we talked about this last week. You never want to go. There's not. I'm demoralizing those. And then I'm picking up Instagram right. I'm looking on Instagram Lens.

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What do I see these fucking wankers going to Glastonbury and doing A5K inside Glastonbury. That is these are the people I've lost my lost out to. You should be five K. You should be face down in the mud at 5 a.m. in the morning because you can't move because there's that much ketamine running for your system. Yeah.

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Trey, that is true. But it's like not a sane if like 1975 are kind of the, is it Gen Z a weekend or whatever the next the new gen is of what music is, and they want to get that kind of audience in. Like if you were to have a ten right? And you were going to have, a spoken word, a poet, not a person of this time, or you were going to have a TikTok star, Tik Tok, you doing a live to look, I think everyone would go to VHS Tiki turkey.

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Do you know what I mean? It's like it's because it's that that's what people kind of want to see. And I like, kind of feel like that about these bands. And when you've got like these headliners and you know, they were packed enough, but they were, I don't know, I was just thinking like, well, I've seen the crowd before.

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They were even like Elton John, Coldplay, like even like U2 or something like that. They're just not at that level. I get it, man, I get it. I'm not, you know, I'm not the punch in my TV or whatever I am, I wouldn't I was like, so Olly, Olly. So you sat down, you know, Charli XCX, she listened to a lot of radio one and, yes, I am.

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And, she was like, oh yeah, Charlie X. And I was like, honestly, I couldn't, I wouldn't, I couldn't tell you a song she made. However, the last song we played, I do recommend that because that I think that was like a big hit of hers or something. All the rest was just the terrible. It's just not shouldn't be headline.

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It shouldn't be the biggest show at Glastonbury on a Saturday night. It just I she's singing Auto-Tune. She's she's gyrating around the stage like showing her activity. But I'll get it, I'll get it. I ain't even that nice love. All right. And then, and then and then this is one of these over. It's just like, how much of the production is she?

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Is she doing? So these are the things I was sitting there anyway. I again, I try not to get wound up by it, but I always have, I always, I always have. And, like, I'm acutely aware that music is leaving me going to music, popular music, and that it's not aimed at me. And really, it's just my own business.

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I get that, but when it's just me and the missus and we're on on the sofa and me watching telly, she's getting both barrels and misses. She's going to hear every opinion that I have. I have. But anyway, listen, she goes, I'm looking forward to watching it. I was like, okay, okay, so I'll give it a go. Me go what?

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What else we gonna watch? Then I and that's the other fucking thing Ricky, is it takes the it could be brilliant what I'm watching. Yeah. I can't avoid this. I have to watch. I'm going to watch you headlines on Glastonbury. And if it's crap, then that's my week. That's my evening. Ruined. Right? So I see everything. But she said, I'm gonna watch this.

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And I'm like, I'm not going to say a word. I'm gonna keep my mouth shut. I've watched my dad ruin things about things he hates. I don't want to turn into that. She was saying this. That's what was in my mind. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I can feel myself turning into my dad. I could feel it could feel in my veins.

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And it's the last thing I want. But it's just who I am is who I'm going to be anyway. So I was, like, determined not to say anything. And you got to first. I mean, I was watching I was like, in my head is I fucking hate this. I hate the fact this is on instead of something decent, but I'm not gonna say anything.

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But I said something. She went, what do you think? Oh, no. Well, Olivia, this is why I think. And in the end, she said it was a pile of shit as well. She quite likes her so, But, yeah, I mean, it is disappointing. Now, we actually do have a question that's come in, and this is where the fuck has the question gone?

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Brilliant. Maybe it's a question for at lads and on VOD, but what would your three headliners be for a three day festival? Friday, Saturday and Sunday now? I thought I would break this down further and say, what would your support bands be as well? Now, I don't know if I've gone to to to big with this, but five support bands for each day.

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So we're talking about picking 15 bands. That's so much I could do a whole podcast on this, so give me number. But the thing is, we're not going to do this now. I want you to give me a list after because this is that that could be a whole podcast. Yeah. So I'll, I'll contact you during the week and I'll get your headlining support acts and your one low key slept on band.

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So, this goes out to everyone as well. The quick rule is in clicking with Ricky, or we're just going to post everyone's line up on our instar just to see, just to get a vibe that everyone stay there is actually you there is a stadium post, a festival poster generator that you can get. You should do.

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Oh, you have shit. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. You know the one it creates a little like a little. Yeah, yeah I did, I posted mine on Instagram a few years back. So if you're listening to this we want three headliners Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Five support acts during the day the Friday Saturday, Sunday. So you'll have to pick 15 bands and it's a lot.

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You don't have to pick 15, but just try to get there. And we want one low key slept on act that goes on in a tent or that you know that only the hardcore people will be there, or a band that you want everyone else to like. And it doesn't even have to be band. It could be a hip hop act, it could be whatever the fuck you want and send in you can do it on if you do it on notes or WhatsApp, take a screengrab of your day, send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will feature all of your lineups on our Instagram.

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Gary? Yeah, listen. Round thing chain. All right. Okay.

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The night I see, like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi. Is quite midnight waves surfin free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Bands I we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Hello and welcome to lads anonymous is episode 102. I'm Ricky, he's two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas in confessions in our feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. I totally forgot to mention I'm getting really bored of myself now with this, but, patron, everything is not on my side.

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There is a technical hitch on patron side. They're sorting it out. It's still obviously going ahead and it will be imminent. Hopefully by the time you listen to this on the Monday that it will be live. I don't know, but what I will say is I have noticed a few of you sneaking up a finding the page and you're signing up already.

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What is that? Because the fee is still in dollars and I want it to, British pounds. Right. So that I can set the fee correctly, because at the moment it's dollars. And I just don't want any of that fucking. I don't know why it's not doing it anyway. All right. But you will see when it goes live.

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You see it all over social. I've recorded a little clip that will appear in the, you know, the podcast feed as well, so you'll know when it officially goes live. And that is your time to sign up. So you don't need to go under the radar and sign up. Although your enthusiasm to sign up and find the link is amazing and we love you lots for it.

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But please wait until we go official for it now before we jump in. There was one other, point that I wanted to mention, so we use ChatGPT in our last part to answer questions for us, which went down a storm. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. And someone has written into us. Yeah, I was listening to the pod, and I heard Flav say he uses ChatGPT 5 or 6 times a day.

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And you were surprised. That's me. I swear I use it maybe 50 to 100 times per day. An estimate. It's saving. Amazing. Me. Approximately 2,000 pound a month if you're a knowledge worker. I work in an office setting and not a trade work. Trade. Working with your hands. I think the best thing you can do right now to futureproof your work is to spend at least 1 to 2 hours a week studying AI, not learning how it works, but trying different tools, workflows, and use cases.

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AI is the biggest force multiplier of our lifetime, and very cheap and accessible things are going to get very interesting and scary in the next five years. Yeah, I mean, using it 50 to 100 times a day. And I had a quick chat with this gentleman offline and they were kind of saying how they use it. Now, obviously it's to do with their works.

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I can't go right into it, but from things that they used to do, it would take them 3 or 4 to 3 or 4 days, and now they're running it for ChatGPT and it's taking 30 to 60 minutes. Yeah. It's insane. It is insanely powerful. And really interesting and a little bit scary about what might happen in the future.

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But the AI, all of the boring stuff that I don't want to do, I might just ask ChatGPT to do. And yeah, I'm using ChatGPT more than I'm using Google. Much more. In. Wow. Really? Yeah. But you know what? I don't know why I'm surprised of that because I've, I actually have been doing that as well. Yeah, it just gives you collated information that you don't actually suffer in, in Google, as long as you know that where it's coming from.

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You know, in terms of like it can give you incorrect information, but generally you're working on stuff, which that's makes that point irrelevant if you're using ChatGPT as a source to, you know, back up an argument you have, then you might be on an, a solid ground there. But, generally it's incredible. It's amazing. And like, you know, in terms of taking in terms of AI taking over the world when we become so dependent on it that we can't bear to not have it.

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I guess that's when it's one. Yeah. And the fun stuff as well. I'll just say, generally speaking, not not kind of to say people who can work out, but a couple of mates of mine esthetically looking of how can I put it change there, just change the way they look visibly. Yeah. And I was saying that I felt left out because I've not done any of that.

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And then if I popped in to our WhatsApp group where they've put it for a chat and because I said I, I'm going to do something, I'm going to get myself a whacking great pair of tips. You guys are doing stuff. Yeah. And, they've posted a picture free ChatGPT of me as a woman with two large breasts.

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I let sexy at times, if I will, of course I might put it on. Keep it on. You can't really say yes. Yes, I might not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll give you guys. No. Put it in your wank bank. Right. Today's topic hangovers. Yeah. As you alluded to earlier, I never I mean, the first hangover I ever had, I think it was something I've spoken about before.

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It's when my friends and I, when we were like 13 or 14, we secured lots of alcohol. And when I mean alcohol, it's not like we got eight cans of beer. And we sat down the park, we got whiskey, we got white lightning, we got everything. And a mate of ours had access to a private leisure center.

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Now, there was like 20 streets on this road. As part of their mortgage payments. They paid in a service charge to this leisure center to upkeep the running of the leisure center. They all had swipe cards and they could go in freely. No one was in there, no secure a so you had a swimming pool, Jacuzzi like kitchen, barbecue, a big hole for football, gym room, all that stuff.

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And we had to we decided to buy loads of booze and, have a party down there. Now. It got really, really bad. We got smashed out of our face and this is the time that I was sick, pissed myself and shit myself. Yes. I was taken to hospital because of how drunk I was. The hangover from that was probably my first hangover.

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And as you can imagine, it was a sting after a couple of days as well. The first one, it was a yeah, my buddy nearly died, for fuck's sake. Yeah, my kidneys were very sore. I remember that. Do you remember the first time that you really? Yes, categorically. Tottenham versus Brentford, pre-season friendly. My brothers took me to my first preseason game, but may have been.

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Might have been my no no no no no no I would have been away before. But Brentford was just down the road from where my brother lived. So he took me and I just felt like one of the lads that was 14 years old, my brother were like 18, but they had their mates as well. You just think how cool.

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Yeah. Older brothers mates, I don't know, you. It's they're like the coolest people on earth. And those guys. Cool. Goth, goth, Danny, Hazel I think it was. And, my brother Ross and yeah, we went down watch Brentford and I remember drinking Tennessee duties anymore, but but ice. So they had, it was a Budweiser, but they're like an ice version.

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There was this sort of fad of having cold drinks so you can get Guinness cold, for example. Yeah, you can just regular. No it wasn't I mean, it was I, I wasn't like the I think that's the first and last time I ever drank it, but that's what I remember specifically it because I was looking at the bottle and it looked like, the glass had been carved out of a bit of ice.

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It was like a feature, but, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so we're just swigging these bottles, but obviously you don't know how to mediate. And then the part, the reason why getting absolutely battered the first time it. Because it gives you a sense of perspective and where your limits might be going forward. You have to have that first blow out what you're up.

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So you've got to know the power of alcohol, right? So it makes you respect it. Yeah. So I, I don't remember much past being in the stadium. Stephen Carr played his Davis his debut. So that's how I long back it. Wow. And I got home I don't remember much of it. I remember in chips, falling over a homeless man and, you said.

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Oh, right. Yeah. I remember offering him chips from my car and and but I tripped and fell over him. I think,

00:29:32:19 – 00:29:52:21
So what happened then? And then I, we we eventually got back home, so it would have been about, I don't know, 9:00 at night or something. And I was I had a camp bed next to my brother's bed, and I was in that bed, and I was starting to feel very sick. Yes. And I was like, Ross, I feel really sick.

00:29:52:23 – 00:30:16:20
And he was like, he said, come to my bed. Don't worry, mate, you'll be fine. Give me a cuddle. And I was like, oh, I'm not fight. No, he wasn't. He was protecting himself because his mum messed up. He's my half brother. Different mum. So he's mum was in the bedroom next door and he knew if he taken me out and got me pierced, he's, she was a beautiful and lovely woman.

00:30:16:20 – 00:30:32:21
She's not with us anymore but she was, she's beautiful. She was beautiful, lovely. But she also had a temper. She was just she ruled the house. It was her, you know, like a mother's domain. And so you had to be kept in line to a certain degree, especially with Ryan as a son, you needed a little bit of a me.

00:30:32:23 – 00:30:58:21
And, so she, he knew she so effectively I was her responsibility for a week. I would always stay there for a week in the summer, which I used to love doing. And I was a responsibility for a week when I break. So, she's Ross Ross's taking me out. Got me pissed and, got up because I knew I was going to be sick and I didn't make it as far as the toilet, which was literally about ten feet from my brother's door, I made it to directly outside Stella's room.

00:30:58:23 – 00:31:25:08
That was A909. And what did I do just outside the room prior? But yeah, just everywhere. Sick. Everywhere. Needless to say, Ross got a bit of a tanning. I that's I've never heard that. So that's. And I felt terrible for about three days afterwards. That was the first one. Why is it like after me going to hospital?

00:31:25:08 – 00:31:45:03
You doing that afterwards? We're still like, we're not 48 now and we're still like, let's fucking go culture. Let's get that. So snow is mate. There's nothing I know though like that. Often you get here to stuff like Britain. English people don't have a culture. We have loads of culture. Go down any pub, you'll see culture. There might not be the most tasteful.

00:31:45:04 – 00:32:06:12
It might not be what you consider to be, you know, high falutin culture or, you know, but you go down to a typical London pub. There's plenty there. And, growing up, there's nowhere else I want it to be that in the pub with my mates. Like, to this day, if you told me, let's go down the pub menu, just sit in on sunny days.

00:32:06:12 – 00:32:28:14
Friday. Let's just go down the pub. Yeah, let's do that, mate. How. How fun is it going into pubs? It's great. I, I still get a buzz, like like, I was going to talk about. I will go into a bit later, but like just meeting your mates and knowing that you're going out on a and you go, you know, meet up early doors and you're going to be on it all day and it's, you know, it's all written off.

00:32:28:14 – 00:32:48:07
It's all in the book. It's all fine. It's just so much exciting and going to do that, you know, I mean, yeah, I yeah, as a, as a, as a man and typically as men, I'm sure women do as well. But growing up it was like a madman thing. If you just square in off an afternoon, no responsibilities.

00:32:48:09 – 00:33:14:18
Just me and mates down the pub having a few pints, getting to the point where you just. Oh, maybe should we, should we better not. We should, they should we like you know that that is. That's just something that that will never leave me I don't think. Leave us. No. I always thought it would leave me. But as I get older, I kind of get a bit used to the fact that that's just who I am.

00:33:14:18 – 00:33:41:21
That's just who we are, you know? I mean, and that's absolutely fine. It's fine. We going to, I'm going to Dublin for two days. Three days? I was coming up in it. Yes, on the 18th of July. This has been booked in since February. And apart from obviously on a little plane dog, I, I, I can't wait to go down.

00:33:41:23 – 00:34:04:21
It will be in Bray. It was at the Harbor Bar. Elite Guinness sitting down. Couple of boys are very funny. You know, I've grown a huge attachment to you. Obviously, Leo has been mate for a long, long time. Is my wedding not yet. He's mate Mark. He's, You know, I know you're going to have an issue. What is is is the the brown.

00:34:04:21 – 00:34:25:05
Brown. Yeah. He's brown. Brown, man. I don't quite like this. I just, I found, I found in my life that me and brown people get on really well, like, I've, I've got the brown people I've met. I've always. I've always like that. We could be friends. Yeah. So, like, Yeah. This is a life for for me.

00:34:25:05 – 00:34:43:01
Yeah. So like, I don't know, like you're on in my, in terms of my friends that you can count on one hand. You're in. Yeah. It. But if I spend enough time in Mark he might be in there as well. Right in I disagree know. Yeah. They all get. Yeah. You're laughing as well. They sound I don't want to like it.

00:34:43:02 – 00:34:46:24
All right. Yeah.

00:34:47:01 – 00:35:03:04
So yeah. Just stand up. Yeah. And and like, look, there's, there's going to be things going on that weekend, right? Am I, am I going to feel horrible? Am I going to have a horrendous hangovers. Yes. Kind of. Wait. No. Yeah.

00:35:03:05 – 00:35:26:22
When you were like in your 20s what were your hangovers like? Yeah. Pretty bad. Always been bad. Pretty. So I remember in my like late teens, early 20s we were this is like peak peak. So I'd be going out and caning it every week. And it was like, all you ever do is live for the weekend to be with your mates.

00:35:26:24 – 00:35:53:15
You work at some crummy job, you get your on a Friday night, Wetherspoons on the piss dirty hangover on the Saturday, but you get up a Saturday. She goes to go do it again. So Friday, Saturday were always that's us just getting it for 48 hours. Then there was the Sunday club and if if I could muster it, I would go and join the Sunday club.

00:35:53:17 – 00:36:19:07
But there was always that bit in me that even though I was hung over, I had that bounce back ability of like, right, I just have some wall or headache tablets we go again. Or what we used to do is that today they used to be. So we'd go out, get smashed in that morning, there would be loads of text messages flying about and he wants to go to the cafe.

00:36:19:07 – 00:36:40:02
He wants to go super sausage or he wants to go. There was. Yeah, sales are great, great caff. There is another cafe as well. Where in Milton Keynes the coach station used to be. And it was the first time. This is back. This is how old it was that you could smoke in the cafe. And I remember watching this, this trucker right.

00:36:40:04 – 00:37:02:14
He was eating his full English while his cigaret was a lie. And taking pulls of his cigaret was rising in. I was like, is you hungry at that point? Yeah, I was hung over and I was just like, I'm pretty grim, but that is that's next level. That's that's too much smoking whilst you're eating a full English.

00:37:02:14 – 00:37:31:11
It's just a mate that's fucking grim. I mean, the. Yeah. We could do it, though. In our 20s, like we usually have people. You just go again, mate. But we might. I would tell you, my 20 late 20s, early 30s, I was I was at my peak. Yeah. Where I would we would so, so when I was living in Crouch End really Friday.

00:37:31:13 – 00:38:00:03
So I'd finish work at 1:00 on a Friday. Yeah. And I would go and pick up. Yeah. I to meet my brother Ross. Yeah. And we would inevitably be out and on various things. Wouldn't sleep at all through Friday. Good.

00:38:00:05 – 00:38:23:16
Go back out on a Saturday, maybe go downstairs. You go to a through on, on and then. And then Sunday, at some point in the afternoon, you collapse and. Yeah. And then then and then on Tuesday, you felt like death. Like not. It's not the hangover gone, but the the emotional scarring that you've left over the weekend remains.

00:38:23:16 – 00:38:46:12
And there's a hangover. A physical hangover is one thing, a mental hangover from just exhausting every element of dopamine and serotonin, your brain. And then you'd be left with nothing that you can hold on to. The body is nothing left to hold on to, but misery. Because what? Yeah, it's always the Tuesday in it and the Monday you hung over.

00:38:46:12 – 00:39:04:06
But you still can't, right? You're right. And you just. You just gotta get on with it. Because you've got to do work and you've got to be human again. But then on that Tuesday feel sad, the you know, that an advert for Childline comes on, you just start crying. Yeah. Maybe you'd be walking. I'd be on the tube and looking out and I'm just like thinking.

00:39:04:08 – 00:39:24:16
I feel so sad right now. I feel so, I'm so unhappy. And the thing is, is you know what it is. You know what Blue Tuesday is? You know what you've done over the weekend because you're living this every week and then on the Tuesday. And the thing is, your brain will still go to, you know, ain't you know what it ain't.

00:39:24:16 – 00:39:44:13
Yeah, yeah. I this is this time it's different. This time I am sad. No no no. And then God knows I come down I don't tell me what it is I know, I know what I can done is right. This is different. I'm sad I can't, I just can't keep I just cannot do this 9 to 5 thing anymore.

00:39:44:14 – 00:40:12:06
Yeah. I'm so unhappy. I'm so unhappy. To the point of your tears, mate. Ricky. And then in the end, you just can't do this. And then Thursday come round. Can feel a bit better. Now. I'm right. Friday comes around, you got to taste again. And that cycle of just feeling grim and then getting to the end of the week and feeling decent, and then just going back on it again was about 3 or 4 years.

00:40:12:08 – 00:40:34:05
Yeah. The I've been, God I've got Christ that I don't do that now I the what you were just saying there may fucking I just quickly. It's just so funny because I've been in that so many times in my life from. It's all over now. Yeah. So this I, I don't be able to fight you. You block Rick.

00:40:34:05 – 00:40:56:23
Rick. Don't worry. It's just become that. It's just. This is just that. And I'm like, yeah, my head knows it. No it's different. It doesn't have. Yeah. Just like we talked about so you might say my I'll say you say my, my mum rang me up once, and when I'm really worried about Alex, they just seem so down and depressed.

00:40:57:00 – 00:41:12:23
And I'm like, what? I said it's Tuesday. Wednesday. He goes, yeah, every week he just seems to be in this room. And I'm like, I've got to tell her. I've got to tell her because she just thinks her son's depressed and and I think it's just a chemical imbalance. He's going to be fine in a week or two, a day or two.

00:41:13:00 – 00:41:31:19
So I did it, said it was, it's probably come down, probably went on it, got on it in the week and my mum was my mum was teetotal. She'd never touched a drug your entire life. She smoked one cigaret hated it. Barely drinks. Really? Yeah. Her son's off. However, Alex is now. Alex is pretty much teetotal now, isn't it?

00:41:31:20 – 00:41:52:19
Completely different person to what he was growing up. But we were pretty. We got in. We got involved quite a lot. And so. Yeah. So to come down. So yeah, it was, it was awful. Did you actually say to your mum like it was a condom. Yeah. So we, we were quite open with her. I'll just explain what, what was good.

00:41:52:20 – 00:42:12:00
Not not everything, but it was, she was she was very relaxed and cool. She's always been that way. So just felt. Yeah. And I think that kind of we were going to do it if she was teetotal. But interestingly I was I was thinking about what what do you what do you want for your kids in terms of these things?

00:42:12:00 – 00:42:31:06
What would you want for your kids? And how do you create an environment which means that they are less likely to abuse substances, alcohol, whatever it might be. And I was on the podcast I did called Internet Dads with Rory Jennings and Spencer Owen and Spencer. He said I just had no exposure to drugs or anything like that.

00:42:31:06 – 00:42:49:15
I just wasn't in my life. Yeah. And then to the point when even when I was then surrounded by people that were doing and stuff, I still didn't want to get involved. In an ideal world, you don't ever touch drugs and, you know, yeah, you crack on all your life and you be happy because I think the I think drugs are negative generally.

00:42:49:15 – 00:43:24:12
I think, yeah. But then other people, like, my mum wasn't surrounded by drugs, but me and Alex found them and we had a great time. So are you some significant cost? Are you, do you think, like, what is the best way to map out for the kids in obviously substance abuse? Yeah, for hangovers and like getting I think you can eat at a young age.

00:43:24:12 – 00:43:47:04
You can really easily fall into that. Having a couple of cans of beer a day that that type of just maybe makes down the petrol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it escalates I think. What it's so expensive now. So it is like a barrier. You can't go to the pub. What 18 year old kid unless you're working. But most people are going to be in training in education up to 18 though.

00:43:47:06 – 00:44:11:04
Yeah. Who's going to do? Well. I can barely afford to go to the pub, but talking I spend like going to see Leon in Dublin and I, it's like 7 or £8 a pint of Guinness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What kid can afford to go and get pissing in a pub anymore? Which is probably helpful. I mean, my approach always is and I don't know if it's the best one, is give them the tools they need in order to make the right decision.

00:44:11:04 – 00:44:29:00
When, when? So when someone offers them, the next step will. Inevitably they will. How do you how do you approach that most safely? Because most of us would just take the next step. Very rarely you get someone like Spencer over and he goes, no, I'm not interested at all. Yeah, most people succumb to the curiosity, especially when you look walk around and everyone's so fucking happy.

00:44:29:00 – 00:44:51:10
I want to feel like that. So yeah, I'm. I'm the same. Yeah, exactly. I mean, when my kid. You're a bit young at the moment, but I think I will probably go down that line of giving them the most information that I physically can, you know, like making sure they're in a safe place, making sure they're in a sound environment with good people.

00:44:51:12 – 00:45:12:15
They've got phone hand, they, they've got wool. They, you know, if they, you know, doing half of it or whatever it might be just to make sure that it isn't this naive thing just going into it. And taking, you know, someone's saying to them, Double Drop is, well, good. And then you double drop and they have no idea what's to come.

00:45:12:21 – 00:45:35:11
We do not want that situation. Do you? Or the same with alcohol. Like if people are pouring out singles with your mixer and someone gives you a treble shot and you're drinking those all night, you know it's all that shit that you that you kind of. With that, I'm going to try and avoid. What I did want to ask you about is.

00:45:35:13 – 00:46:00:09
But sorry, you've always been like going back to your point of, you were in your heyday in Crouch End when we were drinking together. You always seemed kind of, bulletproof to hangovers. Like you'd have them, but you'd still be like, get your coat on quick, you know, shake of the shoulders. Get yourself out there and you're good to go.

00:46:00:09 – 00:46:26:17
Yeah, yeah. And I was always like, Flack, I think I might be tired, but I, I yeah, I'm, I'm in a bad way. And now in your us in our 40s do you one do you get hangovers worse or and or and do you still kind of like have that. I can shake it off because I need to be a dad.

00:46:26:18 – 00:46:48:00
I need to do work. No. To do. No, I can't, I can't I'm not that bulletproof anymore. I do do this stuff, but I don't feel I don't. I'm like, this is fucking rank like and obviously I've found that if I am, if I've had a possession, I can't form sentences in the way that I would like to generally.

00:46:48:02 – 00:47:21:10
And as you get older, that becomes more difficult. Typically I found anyway, but yeah, I get on with it, but I couldn't go free tonight and go to work, which I used to do. I just that sounds like the worst idea ever. I don't even touch anything like no, no other. Like that's what we we do that sometimes I, when I was working a boucherie is like, I'd get on it in the midweek, go through the night and go to work, get on the train at like be in the office in a meeting at 9 a.m. and I've just been fucking up all night doing it.

00:47:21:12 – 00:47:43:20
That's, I can't even think about it at the moment. So my, my mates, the Gooners, they'll be listening to this. We are trying to organize a boys day out, and it doesn't need to be a big one. It just needs to be us. Free going to Wetherspoons early afternoon. Typical, because we've got a good day of drinking.

00:47:43:20 – 00:48:05:19
We can get home early, but lo and behold, we've all got families, all got kids doing different things and stuff like that. So it's really hard to kind of put something in the diary, but as I get older, there is a real sense of hesitation from myself that not that I don't want to hang around with my mates or have fun.

00:48:05:21 – 00:48:29:10
This is I'm always thinking about the hangover and what am I going to be like on the Sunday? And I don't want my missus to be angry with me. And I don't want my kids to be sad to see me just loll up in on the sofa. You know how to say, why aren't you save that by going, this is what I'm going to be like.

00:48:29:12 – 00:48:56:01
Be prepared. I don't go out often. This is what I'm going to be like on the Sunday. But we can't as men seem to be able to do that. There is that. But also I don't want to feel like that. Oh, you just dreadful. Oh, God. The feeling is horrendous. And then afterwards, the junk food. I mean, like, I won't start properly working back until, like, Wednesday, like back to full speed sitting there.

00:48:56:01 – 00:49:19:02
I'll, you know, I'll be here in person, typing away, but not really. Not really what I should be doing. And it kind of strikes the fear of God in me, of how bad would I be, what would I get up to? And I've got no willpower. So it's kind of like I've got the best, the best intentions. You know what class?

00:49:19:07 – 00:49:36:19
I'm going to go on 0% Guinness first, then I'll cross over or I never I don't understand the point of that because you did that when the. But the social. Yeah. But I guess at that point is that, you know, you're going to be there for a good 7 or 8 hours and you know, you're going to get smashed out.

00:49:36:21 – 00:49:46:00
That's the point. That was the point. And, you know, you also was really taught not to panic attacks. I didn't really work today.

00:49:46:02 – 00:50:07:22
South of the final, you had to think of it. And I had well, no, that was the semifinal. That was the boat ization. But I, and then I had one on a plane flying back from the final as well. So that was some. So it's all those things that are in my mind. And I know, I know it's going to be fun.

00:50:07:22 – 00:50:27:00
I really want to see my mates. I really want to. Like we were just talking. The best time is when you're in the pub with your mates, you just shoot the show with it. You know you're going to feel that way, just, you know it's going to happen, accept it and just fucking get on with it. Do you have any, pussyfooting around the get involved?

00:50:27:02 – 00:50:51:04
Do you have any, when I was younger, I just this just popped into my head when this is when I had my first job, so I must have been, like, 16, 18 around that when I was working in the warehouse, one of the people there, they swore I, the reason why they didn't get so drunk is because before they'd go out that crack an egg and swallow it whole.

00:50:51:06 – 00:51:13:20
And the thing that I'd been told was, you know, the the jelly type. Yeah. Film of an egg. It would cope the inner lining of your stomach so the alcohol wouldn't seep through your stomach or get into your bloodstream as quickly so you wouldn't become really drunk quickly or, you know, so you'd still have you, you know, your wits about you and you wouldn't be as hung over and stuff like that.

00:51:13:20 – 00:51:31:09
Did you ever do anything to get yourself ready for a day of drinking? No. Just went out there straight out then before. Well, I never I didn't feel like I never in a position. I felt like I've got to protect myself in any way. I just went, let's go out ten toes. Let's get into this. Don't worry about it.

00:51:31:11 – 00:51:52:15
What I found, though, were nothing ever worked other than just drinking shitloads of water. I feel like that replacing that. So you're not dehydrated? Feeling dehydrated is a horrible feeling in itself on top of the hangover, so just make sure you can save as much as yourself as possible. There are these things that you can take before you drink, and then when you get home before you go to bed, apparently really good, like tablets.

00:51:52:17 – 00:52:26:09
But I've never, I'd rather just get on with the hangover, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, I, I try to drink as much water leading up to it. I try to have a meal leading up to it to to soak up the alcohol. It never fucking works. I always get buckled and I always feel like shit. But the next day when I get home and I'm fucking swinging around from door to door, absolutely bent enough, I will go and I will take an hour before I got a bed to try and get a jump start on it.

00:52:26:09 – 00:52:47:23
That's what I'll do. So I'll take that and then I'll put in my. You'll probably find it doesn't make any sense. I don't want to take away your procedure, but if you're sick, they last for hours. You sleep in more than four hours. I am, but during that four hours. Well, what happens if in the first two hours the hangover starts going and then the paracetamol?

00:52:48:00 – 00:53:07:07
You don't know. You don't can stop it. It takes a bit of pain relief. It doesn't fix anything else. Don't be like that. It's just a headache you'd like. You got headache or your joints hurt. Then you take that away. But it's not like, do you think you had some sort of powerful I don't know, I don't know, I'm just.

00:53:07:07 – 00:53:26:02
I'm just trying any and every cape it. And then I have power paracetamol and I and then the ibuprofen I have a new ibuprofen. I don't know if it's new, but you have the standard one. And then there's one where it's more more of a kick to it. You can only get them in a certain few shots. You get the power all day.

00:53:26:04 – 00:53:50:11
Yeah. So I get the, the old passes on the go, and then I often smash those and then also, I can't remember who told me about this, but, you know, these, dissolvable, effervescent drinks that you get. Yeah, but these ones, what my marathon runners have. So after they've done a marathon, they'll take these two specific tablets, let it dissolve down, and it's got electrolytes.

00:53:50:17 – 00:54:11:21
So all these other bits and pieces. And there I've been doing that as well. When I'm really hungover. That's the break glass emergency. I'm really dying stage. Yeah. I'll get a couple of those out. Fizzy up next. And then I'm like, right, I'm feeling a little bit better. I'm then on comes the junk food, like Chinese full of salt.

00:54:11:23 – 00:54:35:02
It's like trying to pick something up. Nothing better than eating junk food on a hangover. I don't care at that point. You've done the damage. Let's let's double down. Double down. Don't bite. Was it boot up? Don't back down to wooden. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. What is your favorite hangover food? Yeah, I think it's Chinese. Chinese or the.

00:54:35:04 – 00:55:03:12
Yeah, I do love a KFC as well. I think it's mine's like a Domino's or something like that. It's just. Oh you love. Yeah. I don't actually like having a crap now. Right. But back in the day I would always go for Domino's. Now I can't even I'll get two slices. Like, it's just I don't know what's happened to me, but because you know how much I did love a, I was about to say that it that when the crouch end time, the peak time, the Sunday the hangover, I'd come over to your house and you'd order two large pizzas.

00:55:03:14 – 00:55:23:01
That was from, that was from the Turkish pizza place. So that went like, Well, I used to so saucy up as well. Why didn't you? What's the list? He used to spray on that barbecue, probably. I don't remember, but I probably would have gone for some, some sort of like, herb and chive, that sort of dip.

00:55:23:03 – 00:55:39:19
But I can have one you love. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I got I think that's ridiculous. I mean, it's it's saying why, why, why did I not just make one ain't like that. Well I don't care if it doesn't. If it doesn't taste like, why is it so you can't recipe. It's insane. Isn't it. The calories in that. Yeah.

00:55:40:00 – 00:55:59:24
Because, you know, it's so good. What is good. But what I don't I, I'm conscious of it. So what are you. I goes to a, salad dressing from, Sainsbury's. It's a Caesar salad dressing. Reduced fat one. I don't know why. Because you're ordering a pizza. It's like 2000 calories in itself anyway. But, yeah. Yeah, that's what I would do.

00:56:00:04 – 00:56:15:24
But it's the problem you've got is when you're hung over in the house and the wife's around, then you're like, I want to order takeaway, but of course, get everyone on board. Yeah, the kids are going to get on board, but the wife's going to be like, you don't deserve a takeaway because of what you did last night.

00:56:16:01 – 00:56:40:18
So I might I'm like, I'm like, I think, I take a, a hangover is dominated by how accepting of it your partner is. Yeah. How bad it can be because you really just want to flake out again. Another part of reason why I'm married is because she's so easy going. If I've come back from London. She asked me hung hangover and I'm like, yes, she knows what I mean.

00:56:40:20 – 00:57:05:11
She knows I've been doing it probably. And and and like, this is not often, very, very rarely. I don't ever even want to go to London to go out anymore. So that's how rare it is. Sometimes you're kind of obliged to go because it's you've been invited. Like, for example, is it Stu MacDonald's leaving do from he's going up to Scotland.

00:57:05:13 – 00:57:25:05
So next Friday I've got going to town but I'm not going to stay. That's the key. If I don't stay, if I get a train back, then I'm generally going to be all right. If I stay, then I know that there's just going to catch up to things. It's not. I mean, yeah, I was chatting to Stu and he told me about the party and if I'd come down and I was like, excuse me, what do you say?

00:57:25:07 – 00:57:45:24
Yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I'll be there, I'll be there. And he said, and then he said, yeah, flaps organizing it. Oh, so he's doing what I've just oh. So I'm not, I've just asked a few people if they want to come to the party. It's not as organized. We're just going to the posh. We're just going to the brass monkey Bowl straight into Pretoria.

00:57:46:01 – 00:58:07:00
Yeah, yeah, that's where we drink to me. That'd be nice to, you know, fancy that. Coming down to London for a couple of tinnies. Quite expensive. No, no. Yeah. No no, no. But before we had a come. Just do it. I was and say, can I just ask ChatGPT if there's any known, hangover cure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:07:02 – 00:58:12:11
Okay.

00:58:12:13 – 00:58:41:02
Can you let me know if there is any known hangover cure that genuinely works? Please? Well, there's no magic cure that works for everyone, but staying hydrated, getting some electrolytes, and having a good meal can definitely help. Sleep also does wonders, so those are some things that can ease the pain a bit. Yeah, she she just said, she just said hangover.

00:58:41:07 – 00:59:05:11
You know, sleep, electrolytes, food, boring stuff. Yeah. And, then can you remember for before we go on, can you remember your worst hangover? Yes, I can, spent four days in Amsterdam, which, on a on a stag do, which wasn't these, like, the worst thing about Amsterdam is people that go there at night like, cunts can't stand them.

00:59:05:11 – 00:59:24:18
And there are a lot of them are stag. These, because it's a beautiful city and it just gets fucking. The reputation of English people in Amsterdam is couldn't be any further and any lower than it is anyway. I didn't spent four days in there. I when when we got the, I don't know what it was.

00:59:24:18 – 00:59:49:21
Got a cab from. No, we went got the train from Skip out to Amsterdam Central. From central. We were staying in this hostel and we got a cab there, and the bloke handed me a card. Just was essentially so, like, party liaison. That's what he said. A personal liaison, something like that. Yeah. And so he did. We just had everything we needed on tap, which isn't good really.

00:59:49:23 – 01:00:15:03
You know, sometimes scarce is a good thing, but it wasn't scarce at all. And, I, we, it was just heavy for days. And when I got home, I spent every penny that I had of my wages. So I'd been paid the Friday we left on the Friday, and I'd spent every single penny. I was probably a little bit over my overdraft limit.

01:00:15:05 – 01:00:36:18
So I am. And when I say hung over, it was more than a hangover. I might. When my head would lie on the pillow, it would vibrate and zap. All right. If you know, like what happens if you abuse MDMA too much that you get the brain zaps and they. So I was having those I was having panic attacks.

01:00:36:18 – 01:01:01:01
I was working at the same time and I had no money left, like, because that was that week was the worst, probably the worst week of my life. And then it's now fixed it. But doing another pill on the Friday, that's the that's the way I fixed me and that the zaps went away. It's almost like a rebooted it with another pill.

01:01:01:03 – 01:01:12:18
I'm not proud of any of this, by the way. I'm not saying if you listen to this, this is not this is not that's not advice. I'd never want to go back to that stage of my life ever again. I wish it would never happen, but there was some funny stuff in there and I'm not proud of it.

01:01:12:18 – 01:01:32:14
I but I genuinely have done some serious damage. I'd imagine so. Yeah. I'm not. I'm just we're just recounting this for the sake of the podcast, but I. Yeah, that was a terrible week in my life. My my one. I've got a couple. So the stag days, they're all stag. There's always a stag do. I went on a stag day.

01:01:32:14 – 01:01:54:18
I was gonna say recently, it's not fucking recently. I must have been at least three years ago. Some, one of the gooners. They had the stag do in Marlborough. First night. Everyone's excited. Everyone goes big. I went big and the hangover I had the next morning, I was walking around and my head had to be at the side while I was walking.

01:01:54:18 – 01:02:12:14
And I was by the pool and at the restaurants and stuff like this, just by the side. Because honestly, I it just fucking ruined it for me because I felt so bad, the sun beating down on you and everyone like, oh, my mates are like, back on it. They've all got pints and they're like, Rick, you, you want a pint?

01:02:12:14 – 01:02:28:03
And I'm like, can you, can you do the coke for this round? And then I may is 3:00 in the afternoon. You still on the I know, I know the next one, next one is going to be a beer. The next round comes in. Would you want. You want that beer now can you, can you choose another Coke as well?

01:02:28:04 – 01:03:04:24
I just and, that day I felt so fucking horrendous. It was unbelievable. That's a bad one. And then on the other Gooners stack day this I fucking God knows how long ago this was. Now that was in Portugal. Albufeira. And again first night went big. Fucking horrible. And I get these tension headaches where it feels like this pressure at the back of my head and the after the first night that was there on the second, and I could just feel this headache on the back of my head.

01:03:05:01 – 01:03:24:00
And, you know, when you just kind of about trying to get through life and you've got this pint in front of you and everyone's drinking and it's just not going down, and you're trying with the best will in the world. Get down. You get back to that level and you just can't do it because you feel absolutely dog.

01:03:24:02 – 01:03:53:16
Those are probably one of the worst times of hangovers that I've, that I've had that remember, I don't care. The dog does work like that's the one hangover cure. I don't think it does what he it has a couple of points in your back, your golden ass ChatGPT. And it doesn't look. Hello there. ChatGPT. Can you, can you let me know whether you think hair of the dog works or not?

01:03:53:16 – 01:04:15:03
I believe it does. But my friend Ricky believes that the hair or dog is a myth and doesn't work. What do you think? Yeah, the whole hair of the dog thing is kind of a temporary fix. It might make you feel a little better in the short term, because it can ease the symptoms, but it's definitely not a real cure in the long run.

01:04:15:03 – 01:04:33:05
It's better to just hydrate and let your body recover naturally. So I kind of lean more towards Ricky's side on this one. But what if you're like a bit of a legend and just want to keep drinking? However, the dog will make you feel better. Surely?

01:04:33:07 – 01:04:53:03
I mean, it might take the edge off in the moment. So if you want to keep the party going, sure it can help you feel better temporarily. Just keep in mind that eventually you'll still have to face that hangover and let your body recover. So moderation is probably key. Yeah, but moderation isn't fun, is it? And if you're legend, you don't want to moderate.

01:04:53:03 – 01:04:57:08
You want to party hard.

01:04:57:10 – 01:05:18:17
As I get it, it's all about having a good time, right? As long as you know what you're getting into and you're ready to face the consequences later, then go for it and enjoy yourself. Just make sure to, take care of yourself afterward. Call me a legend. Absolutely. You're a legend. Just remember to have fun and take care of yourself in the process.

01:05:18:19 – 01:05:38:20
Keep on rocking it is so bizarre. It's actually. It really is. What? What did she say? That. So that people at home. Ricky can't hear when I speak to him? She said, that the. She said Ricky's right. The heritage dog is a bit of a myth, but she's. Because it ultimately just prolongs the hangover. But it does.

01:05:38:22 – 01:05:58:16
Obviously it does take away the pain of feeling rough. Yes, I was right. That's good. Yeah, that's sort of what I wanted to know. So we're going to be moving over to dilemmas and something only you know, the dilemma is called let sleeping dogs lie. And something I need to know is I want to leave, but I can't.

01:05:58:18 – 01:06:26:15
The topic for next week is weddings. Are you getting married soon or are you putting the big day off? What is your non-negotiable at a wedding? Are you a traditionalist alternative to the big day? Are you scared of spiraling costs? The if is the pressure of the big day being focused on you and your bride or the other way round, is it getting you?

01:06:26:17 – 01:06:51:13
Is it getting you down? Have you got any mental stories from weddings? Because I've got a few. I've got a feebly. If you've got anything like that that you want to submit for next week's podcast, send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out flat for your wedding. You have said it was the best day of your life.

01:06:51:15 – 01:07:10:18
Best free days. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, best free days. I mean that's going to be hard to top. So yeah, a lot of people say I think everybody is everybody. Everybody says, oh that was great wedding. They always say it. But lots of people said it was one of the best weddings I've ever been to. That's. Yeah, it was, it really was.

01:07:10:18 – 01:07:27:13
It was fucking fantastic. Yeah. I wish it were remembered. More of it. I think. Yeah. But then when talk about it next week we will. So you are now going to hear the dilemma.

01:07:27:15 – 01:07:57:02
Oh, just, just tired. You got a tissue for a tissue? You're a bit sad. It will be you. Are you aching in your soul, alone in your flat? Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let not stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve it. Like you side to get nice and warm between Vicky, your flat.

01:07:57:04 – 01:08:20:20
Let sleeping dogs lie. Highlights. I'm not really sure if this is a dilemma or something. Any. And I'll let you decide what to do with it, if anything. About 14 years ago, I met a girl at work. She was perfect, beautiful, funny, and really easy to be around. We started hanging out with each other outside of work, but it was always just as friends.

01:08:20:22 – 01:08:43:00
She had a boyfriend. She would often complain about him and say she wanted to leave him, but never did. It didn't take long for me to fall in love with her. Then she dropped the news that she would be traveling to Australia for a year with her boyfriend. Fuck. We hung out one last time a few days before her flight.

01:08:43:02 – 01:09:08:09
We just drove around in her car, chatting and listening to music like teenagers. The time came for her to drop me home and as we pulled out for a hug, her eyes locked and we kissed. It was the most heart racing moment of my life. My Immortal by Evanescence was playing whenever I hear it now, transported back to that moment.

01:09:08:11 – 01:09:16:16
How's that one? That was good. Yeah, I'm not going to sing it.

01:09:16:18 – 01:09:43:19
Yeah. Go. Then she was gone a few days later. A few years later, I met my now wife. We have two kids together. I'm very much settled, but I don't love her the way I love the other girl. It's a different kind of love. But with the other girl, I couldn't wait to see her. I'd pick her up, pick up extra overtime just so I could be on the same shift as her.

01:09:43:21 – 01:10:05:22
I often wonder what I would do if she got in contact and told me she feels the same as I do for her. I couldn't do anything to jeopardize my relationship with my kids, so I guess she will forever be the one who got away. Is it a bad move to find your own social and reconnect? Yes, it is bad, but.

01:10:05:24 – 01:10:33:01
And the reason is, is generally you're in love with what might have happened. But the reality is very different. There has been no opportunity for her to spoil anything. All she is, is perfect in your eyes because, yeah, you've built her up to be that. But the person you've created in your head isn't the reality of the relationship.

01:10:33:03 – 01:10:54:00
And it's not. You're not alone. This has happened to tons and tons of people. I don't regret anything and any anything that's led me to where I am now. And I am so happy and and lucky to be in a relationship. I'm in, the only time that I can kind of relate to that is like way back before.

01:10:54:02 – 01:11:18:16
Way before I met my wife. You know, like one night stands that I could have had. I didn't have. And then that moment. But not relationships wise, that must be tough. And it's also it's I mean, it's you what? You're what you could potentially damage and destroy by pursuing this. And it doesn't work out. Could be, you know, irreparable.

01:11:18:18 – 01:11:49:11
So I would just leave sleeping dogs lie. Yeah, I would agree. And eye contact and your your current relationship with your wife and stuff like that. And more often than not, when people go searching for a solution, it's because they might be unhappy in their relationship at the moment. Or things could be worked on, or things are annoying, or something happens and you automatically go searching for the grass is always greener.

01:11:49:13 – 01:12:14:19
So what? I mean, if that is the case, maybe have a conversation with your wife or try and work on your relationship. What's going on at the moment? But ultimately, I agree with Flav and I wouldn't, you know, search for her on social or try to reconnect or try and make your paths meet because essentially, I think it's just a bit of a nostalgia trip.

01:12:14:19 – 01:12:39:19
And this isn't just lost, is it? You feel like you would fall in love with her completely. And you've brought two kids into the world, and they're your responsibility. Yeah. May I just want to say before we end. Oh, we've got we've got, something I, I know something I need, you know. Yeah, yeah. I watched Manchester by the sea last night, film Casey Affleck and I.

01:12:39:19 – 01:13:00:02
It was an amazing film. I can't tell you how gut wrenchingly sad this one scene is. I was in floods of tears. I, I wanted to stop, I couldn't because my wife was like, no, I was I was holding it back because there's one thing crying in a film. There's one thing a grown man sobbing, I don't know, I, I don't think it's the most attractive thing in the world.

01:13:00:04 – 01:13:14:14
No. Yeah, I get that. Yeah. But I but but he he's I don't want will you watch it some if you know he's going to be gut wrenching said would you watch it. No no no no no. You've just told me that. And I'm like I don't need the I'm not I don't want to spoil it for people.

01:13:14:14 – 01:13:39:21
But it is about he lost something and when I don't think people I'm not sure people do. But when you've got kids, if you even want to process a world where they're suddenly taken away from you, means that you could make a decision where that is damaged to some degree, where you're, you know, your access to your children potentially might not be what it was.

01:13:39:21 – 01:14:00:10
And in the event of what? Yeah, is this woman going to be able to give you what your kids give you? It's different, completely different thing. But, you know, in terms of the love and nourishment that you'll get from your kids, it's a different thing altogether. But you're risking that kind of stuff. Yeah. Fuck that. Fuck that, mate.

01:14:00:12 – 01:14:19:08
For me anyway. Honestly, the last thing I could do, I couldn't be fucked to have an affair. I really. I love my wife, so much, right? But I just couldn't be assed, like there's nothing. I've done the sex. I don't know what was that going to be like? What can I walk in? I learn and do, I don't think I didn't think as much.

01:14:19:08 – 01:14:42:08
I couldn't be assed and I couldn't lie to my message. My mate, have you been out tonight? I'd be like, yeah, do you do anything? Yeah. Cheat on you? Yeah. It just come out. There would be no protesting whatsoever. No sneaking around or text messages, WhatsApp or anything like that. I just thought she would be so shocked. Yeah, I'd be shocked.

01:14:42:10 – 01:15:06:22
I'm so angry. It's. I'd be. Do remember that clip that when I watch that every now and then, it cracks me up on our TikTok where we just talked about we talk, I was talking about as if you'd actually cheat on the missus. I'm like, what's that going on with you? So angry at mean, I know I hadn't even cheated on her because that I didn't actually do this.

01:15:06:24 – 01:15:33:20
Yeah, there's your answer, mate. We are now going to jump in, do something, and you know something new. You know, I can't find the jingle, so I just thought I'd do it myself. Right? That's fine. I want to leave, but I can't. Hi, lads. Here's a quick story of something only I know. When I was 18, my mates and I went on a lads holiday.

01:15:33:22 – 01:15:53:24
There were eight of us in the apartment with me and one of my mates sharing a room after a long night, on the booze and God knows what else. I go to bed, but sleep does not come my way. My mate then comes back into the room, followed by a lovely young lady in a state of drunken lust.

01:15:54:01 – 01:16:15:12
They pull out the sofa bed and get down to business. Off my back to them at this point, but I can hear all that's going on. In order to plan my escape, I discreetly roll over to get a view of the situation at hand. To my dismay, they've pulled the sofa bed out. So far that is blocking the door.

01:16:15:14 – 01:16:46:24
Do they look like this? They don't know he's there. They don't know he's there. I realize that in order for me to leave, I'd have to make them stop shagging. Stand up. Pull the sofa bed back to where it was and for them to let me out. What did you do? What do you do? I decided that was far too awkward and planned to just pretend I'd been asleep the whole time and hope my friend would suicide soon enough.

01:16:47:01 – 01:17:12:10
He didn't. It went on for what felt like hours. The problem arose when I had a closer look and noticed the sublime technique with which my pal was laying pipe, and the fact that the girl was actually very, very fit. I got hard very quickly and ended up having the quietest wank I've ever had. At some point during the ordeal.

01:17:12:12 – 01:17:39:20
I'm pretty sure my mate and I made eye contact, but he has never mentioned it to this day. Can you bring up? Yeah, I know. Upon recounting this story, leaving out the wanking part to the rest of the group the next day, they all made jokes about how they. Sure, I would have just enjoyed it. Please tell me this is relatively normal and a younger me wasn't a sex pest, and that is something I need, I know.

01:17:39:21 – 01:18:00:08
You did the right thing. Pretending to be sleep is the only option there. Yeah, you can't, you can't disturb. But the reality is anybody would wake up so they knew you went to sleep, but they knew you were pretending to be asleep. So you've just done everyone a favor? I think. Yeah. I mean, I don't think I. I mean, I haven't been in that situation, but I don't think I would have cracked one out.

01:18:00:12 – 01:18:10:22
Can you imagine cracking one out when one of your mates is on the job next to you? I only just stood up and started masturbating.

01:18:10:24 – 01:18:17:17
I just sat at room for one.

01:18:17:19 – 01:18:30:15
Right. The topic for next week is weddings. If you have any mad wedding stories, let us know. Lads, anon pod gmail.com. And until then, we will see you on Monday.