#113 | The British Royal Family | Are They Still Relevant?

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Fucking kids are back to school. Ricky. Tell me about God. I know he hates hates school more. Me or will? Like, do you know how difficult it is as a parent? Right. And you sit down and and. Your son says to you, I hate school. Knowing full well you to send him there for the next eight months.

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Yeah. And it ain't about him trying to get out of it. It's he hates it but he's got, he's got to go and we going for his process where he's you know he probably won't do well on his GCSEs. He won't do what he says. He's right and we're already planning for what might be next year. But it's almost crazy that he's gotta go through the next eight months, gotta go through and sit GCSE and and and and and to get a sheet of paper at the end that goes.

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Yeah there you go. You can't do it. Yeah. But this is how well you memorize stuff. Yeah, yeah. Here's a sheet of paper. That's how terrible you are. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah I don't know I don't I mean there's, there is a process of, there's a process of sticking with something that's important and seeing things through.

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But I just don't there's, there's other than that I genuinely, genuinely cannot see any value in it. Yeah. And it's a shame. But it's a different, different thing altogether is is she, college or sixth form or her, you know. Oh, shit, man, she's got A-levels this year. She did it right in her first year. She's not.

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That's never she. If she wants to go to university, she will be able to. If she wants to, then what she wants to do. So, so. But, Yeah, but luckily there's this. There's this place called the. Well, there's a college near us. It's really good. And it does sort of all you if you want to become like a, a car mechanic or you want to become a bricklayer, or you want to do something like that, it's like, you know, it's a kind of apprenticeship.

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Such courses that that's decent. I remember when I went to college at, Bletchley College, they media studies and out the back there was like, like garages and bricklayers and, you know, people that wanted to do, you know, stuff with their hands, like, and if you can get good of it, you can on a fortune.

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Yeah. Exactly. Like my kids got getting them ready for school. Obviously, they were like, oh, I don't want to go back to school and getting back into that routine, but luckily it wasn't. I didn't feel like the paying of knowing that they desperately didn't want to be there or anything, but. So that was kind of nice. But it's just the the chaos in the morning and it's the same every morning.

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It's the same like trying to get them to be ready for the next day. Have you got your bag packed? Have you got your lanyard. Have you got your glasses there. Have you got your phone. Like, are you like try to get their school shoes like together in a pair by the front door so they can just slip them on and get out.

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And then the next morning of like I give a countdown like a half six, go in there, wake them up, and then it's like, right. 645. Right. 650 yeah. We've got a late. That's. Yeah. And I keep that at the same thing every fucking time. It's the it's literally are they. And they get in there and they end up on their own by their own alarms.

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Or do I have to go wake them up. No. Fucking no. I've got to go in there and do it. Yeah. Chloe wakes herself up. She has done for free. God, what a dream she's done. Yeah, but she's 17. She's done it for free for about three years she's been doing it, whereas, well still recall I don't. I know that woo is waking up.

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I can't trust that he won't go back to sleep. And that's why I have to say it does get boring. Yeah. And then it's like obviously getting all of that sorted, then getting them out the door and it's like, they're moaning at me and it's like, well, I don't want to be doing this. I want to be in bed two.

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I don't want to be having to walk to the bus stop and getting you ready. What I'm so sad about that. I mean, they can. Yeah, they of course they can. But, you know, while they're young and I can, I, you know, I will do that. So you do want to do that. You know I don't want to do it.

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I'd rather not do it, but I'd rather. So if something ever happens and then that's the day I'm like, right, okay. I'm not walking. You just go anymore. Then the next week, just like waiting for my kids to come home and they've been kidnaped right over that, right? Yeah. Exactly. The, And also eventually there'll be a time where they don't need you or don't want you to walk them.

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See, this is this is the thing that we have in our house whereby my my girls, they'll have a shower, and my missus is like, well, both of us, like, you've got to get ready, you've got to go to bed, blah, blah, blah, trying to get everything sorted. But they will wait around for their mum to blow dry and brush that hair.

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And I'm like, girls, you, you can fucking do this for yourselves. You are old enough. And then my missus kind of pops a head round the door. And as always like that, there'll be a time where they don't want this. They don't want me to do this, and I can't do this for them. And. And I'm not for that.

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Right. Fine. Everything is delayed because it's eking out those last opportunities to be with your children. And. Yeah, of course, I'm not going to be walking them to college when they're 18 or whatever the fuck it is. So I guess it is. Yeah, I guess it is those bits where I'm you're trying desperately to hang on, but I've already noticed the independence of my girls.

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And yeah, it does make me sad. But yeah, they, they growing up to be young women and be independent in the world. And I don't want to hold them back. I want to give them the kind of, guardrails of, you know, what's good and what's bad and to be a bit more street savvy and stuff like that.

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But they'll never be street savvy if I'm, like, walking ten paces behind them while they're at the local shopping center or whatever, you just got to let them do what they got to do and make your own kind of fuck ups. Ready to be speak about ready in last week probably did. No it didn't. No no no no.

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You told me that you would do you you never guess what I've got to do in a couple of weeks. I've got a gun collect Chloe at 2:30 in the morning, but we've not spoken about it. Yeah. So that was hell. That was. That was absolute hell. Ricky. Everything you thought it would be. But worse.

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So I was, I was looking at the, the live traffic map thing on my. And it was my stupidity, really, but always it tells you how long, including traffic it would take you to get there. And it's like hour and 20 minutes for me. So I'm not gonna pick her up at 12. I'll leave it about 9:45.

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It gives me a good, you know, maybe 50, 60 minutes, you know, leeway so I can pick her up. Yeah. I got to Redding. It was gridlocked. I'm talking every road gridlocked. I can see her where she is on a map and see where I am. And I'm right. We are miles away, and I cannot move my car.

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She has, like, seven, about eight, 15% battery. Good. If she starts walking and her battery runs out. I don't know where she is in Redding. No. So I said, in the end, her and her friend did have to start walking because I'd sat in a road, some random road in Redding, like a residential street, ran back to the cars for about an hour, didn't move.

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I ended up picking them up at half past the 2:15 in the morning. I was supposed to pick them up at 12, and then we had about an hour and a half drive back. So did they. So you said I'm at, I don't know, fucking Spencer Road. And they were like, right, we've got that on the maps.

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We know how to get there. We got 15%. Yeah. That'll be kind of what it was like a 40 minute walk. And they'd been in the festival all day. It's not like they would just go to our bed and then they were knackered. Right. So that, so I was saying, look, let's walk half way. I'll meet you at this point that cuts out this road and all that.

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Anyway, we got there and they were lit. She had like no battery left, but we got there and we got out and sprawled. It was just, a mass of bodies of these kids asleep on the trees. And I'm saying, oh, yeah, on the, on the streets of Redding. And I'm like, what is where are your parents? Why is it someone came to pick you up?

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But imagine if you knew your daughter. Your your oldest daughter is, what, 14? Yeah, right. In three years time from now, she could be asleep under a tree in Redding after watching Travis Scott at 2:00 in the morning. Yeah, I, yeah. No. Charles fucking, Yeah, exactly. God, man, that is. I mean, saying that there was a time when when all of this, going to Bilbao and I couldn't get a hotel or anything like that.

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There was a point that I thought, can't can I sleep on the beach? But it's just for one night, like, as a 40 year old man with my 70 year old dad, I just to get there, I make it. But I was like, nah, I can't do that. Cannot in a million years. What I even consider doing that I wouldn't go unless I had a fucking decent hotel sorted.

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I just wouldn't go. I didn't, I could not give a shit whether it was an FA Cup final, Champions League final, the thought of walking around with my dad and not having somewhere to stay, you couldn't. You could guarantee me a Champions League final five nil win against Arsenal. And I still wouldn't go if I didn't have a hotel, rating 100%, I would.

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No, I just I don't I'm just well past that shit. Like when you, you drove to. That was the incredible thing when we drove. Where did you drive to Seville? Yes we did. Yeah. My bad. Yeah. So that wasn't even an important game. It was a group stage game in the Europa League. Was it? Or was it?

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Yeah. This quarterfinal. No it wasn't. I don't even think it was quite the final stage at that point. And you spent most of that time asleep with your dad in the car is played. Oh my God, you are Minarik. And the, the, fuck, you know, the things you do. I think they they have you seen, it's been another crash dog.

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What? Yeah. Not not not play. No, though. What the. That you know that tram. Is it a tram in Lisbon? Really? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, last night I think it was some those little, 17 dead. It's gone up to 17 now. Fucking hell. This morning it's 15. Christ. Well, how I've been on those things. Oh, my Lord, really?

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I've been up that street. I'm watching it. So that street is super, super steep. And as a specific tram for that hill alone, I feel I would. You're not getting up there. Basically, me an early struggle, to be honest. So it must have been that it might have been that. So I've 17 people die in that, I, I've always wanted to go to Lisbon.

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I've always wanted to go on that little tram thing as well. It's really cool. And I've been told that Lisbon is a quality. Say, yeah, it's great. So I've wanted to go there and take the girls there and stuff, and I. So I saw the news and I thought, like, is this tram? Is it like a, you know, those things are suspended and they're more in the air.

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Oh no. It looked at that and it's like on the floor almost. It's like quite so. Yeah. No, it's. Hello. How the fuck. Just on the rail. On the street. And then how does that move quick, Rick. They move slowly like, I don't know, eight mile an hour. I mean, I read the article when he said brakes, the brakes fail to work.

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Oh, they might have they might have come down on the ceiling into a building seven into a building, 17 to 21 injured. Max. Yeah. Matt. That is. Yeah. It's a shame. Like we were saying about, like, infrastructure and our old infrastructure to maintain it. Yeah. Hey, who's doing that? Who? He's doing it. Someone's gotta be responsible. Like what?

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Oh, what, you want me to get on a fucking. What's it called? Cable car. What? What are 600ft off the ground? Yeah, I'll do that. Who's check this? Who's the last person to check every single part of the.

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Out. Bless you. You saw the, You saw the one in. I think it was in India where they were just hanging. Yeah, hanging off the side of it. I mean, people were in there, a bloke was on his phone. It was all sort of open, like, you know, if you found. Well. What? Me? What are you doing?

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TikTok on TikTok. There's, you know, the one that goes over, London, over the Thames. What's it called? The sky. Something. Yeah. Oh, I think it's the Emirates. I think Emirates operate it now. I've, I've quite fancied going on there. I wouldn't mind that. Oh, yeah. No, I trust the Arabs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No I mean look at the infrastructure and the speed at which they build things.

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Yeah. That's true. I have no issue with them. But there is that bit of me that if that falls and you're in that metal cage and you plummet into the Thames, you're out of that. I don't really want to plummet to my death. I mean, I been eaten by a shark and plummet into my death in a cable car, probably on the same level.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Plummet. Plummeting. Yeah. No, both of them are. Both of them are fucking grim as hell. And you kind of like, is an instant death when you're aware of your imminent demise. Yeah. The one something popped up at my, reels this morning, actually, and it was, about the discovery of a explorer. Everest. Yeah. Part of a part was thawed out.

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They found a they found his body fat. Found his body, intact, well-preserved because of the ice and snow and stuff. And went on further investigation. His right arm and his right leg had broken. Oh, well, he has a liver, broken leg and broken arm in that freezing cold snow. Yeah, exactly. He died. So he'd fallen. He'd obviously broke his arm and leg lying there in the freezing, knowing that there's no way out.

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They said the position of his body is how he's died. Is. It was like a prolonged death. Just like they were broken bones in the snow thinking, oh, fuck, no one is going to find me ever. And they did it for, like, a lot 20 years or it was probably longer than that. I, I read an incredible book called Into the Air by, John Crouch cracker, cracker.

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And he's about a, expeditions up to the top of Everest. And it was written 1991, 1997, I think it was, but an excellent book about an expedition who went right and then it went wrong. Oh, or badly wrong on the bottom. Came back down in time is it's all true as well. Personal accounts. It was, I'd never gone up there that far.

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Have you ever seen so many attractions? Well, you know, hundreds of people do it every year, like everybody, you know, when you go all kind of average at now, you like, right? All right. Well, people have loads of people. I've swum across the Atlantic on my own or of of solo rowed across the Atlantic. Fairplay. Tell me about that.

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Yeah, I went up Everest. Tell me all about that. You know, the thing that freaks me out about these guys? They have to get out. Let's get out and into the water to, to clean the barnacles and shit. And underneath the boat, because it drags the boat, it takes some more energy. So they have to clean the hull.

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Is it the hull underneath the boat? Yeah, yeah. In the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Just with a pair of goggles and a snorkel. Night. Fucker. Like, below them is hundreds and hundreds of feet of dense water depth. Death. Yeah, I would just I'd be like, well, I'll just be slow. I'll be slower than expected. Yeah. You know, I read a book called,

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What the fuck was it is about a family who decided to get on a boat. I remember I read this, get on a boat. No, it wasn't. It was a, It was a book. He was also introduced, interviewed by a lad Bible about a family that gets on the boat, takes the kids out of school.

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The twins. A son and a daughter, a mom and a dad who's got some sailing experience but not a load. And he decides to get in a sailing boat and sail around the world with his entire family. How do you find that? When Rick battled it badly and and the bits of the book where you're like, they're all, this is like, read, mate, read it, or just watch what I said.

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You read Bible thing and if they survive, yeah. Because, yeah, the books were written. If they didn't survive, you wouldn't have a book. But yeah, just thought that. Yeah, they did. But it just meant it's meant mental story as well. At one point, the the daughter just gets off at one point. So I don't want to do this and moves to Spain and marries a Spanish man.

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It's almost like it's just you get this entire sort of 15 year era of these, this family that just did this mental thing, and there's a bit where they want to, you know, explain too much because people want to read it. But there's a bit where they spend some time on a dinghy and yeah, dinghy is in Falmouth Maritime Museum.

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The actual dinghy they're in like is historic story what they went through. And you can go and look at the dinghy, the family they picked up some of the people on the way as well. The amount of people that were in this dinghy for a bit. Oh my God. Yeah, that sounds fucking mental. I mean, to be fair to the to the door, if I, if I had a choice of.

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But yeah, if I was out of choice come back and say any country I don't care, I would marry a local and just be like, this is it. This is my life now. So I rather that than be in the sea. If you're old man on your mum. When? All right. We're going to go sailing around the world.

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The the first port you get off and marry a local. Yeah. Just don't take me on that expedition. I don't want to go on.

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The jungle. Right. That's the. Fucking. I can't find the folder. Others. I keep all this bin. Good.

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I'm Ricky, he's two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something only you and I. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going? Flav? You well? I'm good. Yeah. You believe in yourself? Yeah. I'm good, I suppose you. Nothing changes. Really. I've got a question to ask you.

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Actually. Well. Oh. So, I saw it on, a real. And I was surprised with the comments and everything, so that. What better person to ask this question when you have a shower? Do you use or or do you use a exfoliating, like sponge or a sponge or anything to to wash your body? Yeah. Or do you use a shower gel into the hands and rub it around your body?

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You use a I use a shower gel into a exfoliating sponge. Dar. Yeah. Interesting. What is that? That's normal, wouldn't it? Well, I mean, how if people were like, yeah, that's what I do. And half people, mainly men will not shower gel in the arms and rub it around my body. I do do that as well. I might double up like under the armpits as well.

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But you feel like you need the purchase of the sponge and the, you know, the rough bit, but you scrub. Yeah, yeah. In order to get your skin clean that your hands are not going to do. That's what I would. That's how I'd go about it. I'd actually prefer a scrunchie, if anything. Over a sponge. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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That's what. Yeah. There's a exfoliating scrunchy thing. What I don't understand Reiki is people that use the brush for their back. I've never done that. No. That's fucking that's too much for us. Yes. It was always really hard. What are you doing that. Yeah. I still do not. Yeah, yeah. You're a patron. You can see what I'm doing.

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It just that. And then you feel like you can't tell if you got your old back anyway. Yeah. I mean, wash your legs. That was the next question. Do you wash your legs and, like, in between your toes and stuff like that? Yeah. And when you, when you're in the chat there. Yeah. Yeah I lean down and, and I clean between my toes.

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It's almost essential for me to do that because I've got peripheral neuropathy. And so yeah, I'll get extreme numbness in my toes for protects in emails. I've been to the doctors, I've had tests. It's like we know what it is. Yeah. And I'm not diabetic and all that sort of stuff. I've tested for everything and they think actually it's a symptom of long Covid and the oh that's.

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Yeah. And it will never go away. So I have like extreme numbness when I wake up in my toes. And so I have to check that I'm not injured them. Because if you if you can't feel anything, I, I was going to ask why why would you be specific. And that makes sense. Yeah. If you've got an injury and you don't know it's there and you're not clean, you can become infected and all kinds of shit can happen.

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So I have to be I have to be conscious of that. Yeah, yeah. Fuck it. Oh, yeah. Jesus. Well, I mean, I tend to like, more. I'd say three quarters of, Hayden's shower. Joe. Man. And then once or twice a week in the shower, I use the exfoliate, because I was always told that humans have, like, an oil on their skin, like a natural oil, which is a protection of the skin.

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But. And if you're scrubbing that every single day, you're kind of scrubbing that oil off so your skin isn't as, protected by your natural oils. But I don't know. That's what I've always believed. I think probably being clean is better than protecting that natural. Well, I mean, like, you get natural. Kind of, on your body that you would clean anyway, but then exfoliating every single day, like, women don't wash their hair every single day because I don't know the reason why, but they just dying.

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But, I don't know what the science behind that is. Ava. Well, I don't know either. What what? What, how many times you shower in a week? I'm going to go with. I'm probably a six sixer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I can't I can't function if I've not had a shower. You feel a bit grubby every single morning.

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I have to. What? You, You still two baths a week? Unfortunately not. No. Like everybody in our house, apart from, there's one member of our family that we try to shower every day. But the one you have to kind of force it a little bit more like fucking get a shower. But things are changing. Is is getting older?

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Yeah, but it's but it's like it's. I think the thing is, when jumping in a shower into a cubicle. That's so easy. Yeah. Running yourself a bath and soaking for ages. That's a fucking ordeal. It is an ordeal. But when you get in arenas. Hey, what, are you sitting in the bath? Oh, yeah. No, no, not barfing everyday.

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Fuck that. No, no, I know that. But you do. You occasionally run yourself a bath and sit in the bath. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When a time when I've been out fishing or something like that or. It's been. I've been out in the cold when I've been a football, I come, I run myself a long hot bath, stick a podcast on and just lay there.

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I, I, you keep topping up the hot water as well then, you little pig. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. I imagine a little belly poking out of the water as well. Okay, the tiny penis just floating on the surface. Yeah. Unfortunately, we haven't had a bath in our in our house for about three years because, we decided to do the moonwalk in the bath.

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These hell went through the bath and created a massive hole in it. Oh my God. Yeah. So we've never renewed it because we knew we'd be buying a house. The house doesn't belong to us. We're putting in a new suite with it cost 3 or 4 grand or whatever it might be. Yeah, yeah, we never did it.

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So it's just been showers. So my missus is desperate for a I was going to say moving to, you know, whenever like we go to my mum's house or we stay in the hotel, she just sits in the bath for ages. Yeah. Oh, you'd have to, you'd have to. Do you know what we're talking about today? I'm honestly no clue.

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The royal family. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Boy. You said earlier. Well, actually, what you're. Before we get into that, what are your thoughts on the royal family again? Really? Are you a royalist or are you, a royalist? No. Anti. No. I'm not for them. I really personally couldn't give a fuck about. Yeah.

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Yeah, I get that. But that's my approach to most things that don't directly concern me. Yeah, like my dad's banging on about Angela Reeves and Sadiq Khan, and I'm not that I don't give a shit. And I do look at I do I find people and I don't want to upset anybody, but I find people who are super like royalists and go and attend the birthdays and the weddings and stuff, and they cry.

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And then that. Yeah, I when Diana died during the how mental that was. Yeah. She tell you I was that in the run another liner. Okay. I'll save it for later. I've got a story about that. A couple of stories about Diana check out. Well, fuck. You know. Yeah, but I do find that odd like that. The people get so swept up in the this this sort of like, they're like little peasants looking up at the royal family going, oh, my God.

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And you're like, you're like, well, they're just. Yeah, that fucking the family. And through bloodline, I've had an elevated status. Yeah. I don't understand what you find so special about them, but I guess it's the same principle with movie stars and with, you know, podcast as well. I mean, I think, movie stars and, what podcast?

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If you said, if you, you've kind of earned the right to be there, right? You've, it's your hard graft of how you've elevated yourself into those positions. And, you've earned it, really. Whereas you're born into a bloodline and you're given millions to do as you please. And I live a life of I mean, luxury probably isn't the right word.

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Fucking God knows what. Yeah, well, what they get up to. So. So would you. I wouldn't swap my life with their life. Like, no, you can't do anything. You can't sneeze kind shit without someone knowing about it. You can't move. You can't go on holiday, you can't have a normal life and everything would have to be like a military position just to have a bit of peace.

00:29:12:03 – 00:29:29:15
Have you ever watched The Crown? Yes, I well, I got into series three. I think it was. Yeah. He's kind of can do that dip in and out of it, but I, I didn't think I'd want to watch it. He wanted to watch it. So he started watching. I was like actually this is fucking good. And then I ended up watching it.

00:29:29:15 – 00:29:49:19
Oh, but even if that a lot of that is drama, drama dramatized, it's also not. There's also massive like elements of truth in there, right? Not not necessarily about storyline but the themes in it. Yeah, I'm 100%. Yeah. But the obligation, what's required of you, you know, the lines you have to toe. I just wouldn't want to do it.

00:29:49:19 – 00:30:16:01
Right. I mean, from a position of a 42 year old man now going into the royal family. Yeah, it would be fucking shocking. But if you're born into that life, I suppose, you know, no different. Yeah, but you can also be disgruntled with it. And as you see in the show out disgruntled some of them, the Marcus. Yeah.

00:30:16:03 – 00:30:52:23
Like rebellion each other and there was shagging around. He got you got to keep the bloodline in this. It's true. I've, I've actually take it like my mum's always been interested in it, but I'm actually, like, quite interested in, like, the ancient history of Britain and and kings and queens and what they actually meant back then, because that's when they were a monarchy and the king was ruler, and he would get in through, it doesn't matter if he was good or prepared or of age, or had enough live appearances to rule a country.

00:30:53:00 – 00:31:12:15
Just if you were the son of your father, that was it. You would. Yeah. I like the, the skullduggery of things as well. Yeah. Like where someone is naturally going to be the next ruler and they go out to battle and they don't come back. And then it's kind of like, who's going to be king? And there's fallout from.

00:31:12:17 – 00:31:31:16
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I like that in the, in, you might there's a thing on BBC at the moment called King and Conqueror. We watch, we're watching. It's about William the Conqueror coming over France. Well, you know, me and John joke, I know. Well, I joke about the Empire. I'm not sure if John's joking about the Empire, but.

00:31:31:18 – 00:31:54:22
But actually, there's always this thing about Frenchie yellow bellies. And, you know, in the in the war, they folded. They took us over the Normans, the Normans took over Britain, the only part of Britain they didn't quite well, actually. Technically they did. They came in and took over in 1066. What? The French took Britain, did they? You've had William the Conqueror and you.

00:31:55:02 – 00:32:16:00
Yeah, I know, yeah, I know. When he said William the Conqueror, it means he's conquered. Conquered Great Britain. I thought it was just like the South, like it's complicated in the South. And then he didn't do. But he. He became the king of England, I think. Sure. Yeah, that's fucking mental. But they would like Earls. It wasn't just.

00:32:16:02 – 00:32:34:05
It wasn't just, it ain't just like you're the king of England. And then you have to power. There would be earls of like Northumbria and Cumbria and Mercia. Yeah. And they would also have armies in their regions. Yeah. So you would have to play to their fiddle to some. It's to some degree you'd have to work with them.

00:32:34:07 – 00:33:00:18
So there would be. So Earls would potentially marry their sisters off to kings in blood like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh would have a bloodline in, into the, into a royal. You know, I mean talking about talking about all that. I mean, that's what I'm kind of like, That's what I feel like I'm. I'm not, I'm not a royalist.

00:33:00:18 – 00:33:26:09
I, you know, I haven't got, China plates with King Charles. His face on in my fucking front room and any of that shit. I mean, yeah, I'm not. I went to steak, obviously. I went to my nan's, villa this summer holiday. I found loads of royal stuff there, like royal plates and, like, loads of, kind of,

00:33:26:11 – 00:33:52:04
Yeah, just weird stuff that they love. The royal family and I, I'm not kind of, abolish the monarchy. Although if it happened, I probably wouldn't really care, to be honest. But I'm not a. Yeah, I'm not a devout royalist, and I'm not. I've, I'm going to do a protest or march because of them. I think it just exist, isn't it?

00:33:52:04 – 00:34:13:12
It's just like tradition. It happens. I don't really kind of. It doesn't pay any difference to my life, as you said. Yeah. So I mean, I'm kind of it's all it's the way we do things in our country as well, wasn't it? And the Commonwealth and and the Empire, you know, whether you like them or not, are important parts of our history.

00:34:13:12 – 00:34:41:10
And if you got away with the royal family, you'd be disbanding an important historical art. It an important thing about British history, isn't it? It's like we've always had a king or queen. So we would, you know, if a vote went saying yes or no, would you abolish the royal family after after Charles goes, that's it. It's gone.

00:34:41:12 – 00:35:05:05
Would you, would you vote for it or against that? Keep them. Oh, I would not the hundreds and not even vote. I wouldn't care, but, I would if I had to, I would vote to keep them. Yeah. I motive someone who wants to get rid of them. Because. Yeah. Should we ask Churchill? Because we don't really know, do we?

00:35:05:07 – 00:35:25:10
Yeah. Well, I mean, I think a lot of people are, you know, they're, you know, our taxes go towards our lifestyle, right? So we're we're part of what we're paying for them. Certainly. It's how much money that they generate. They the does the royal family.

00:35:25:12 – 00:35:35:12
Really make us make the UK money? Oh, yeah. For sure.

00:35:35:14 – 00:35:59:17
There's no way that you. Where, I mean, like for in terms of what it costs us to. Right. Okay. Here we go. Right. Recent attempts to measure the size of the impacts of royal family on UK tourism have estimated the capital value of the UK monarchy as a business of to be 65 billion pounds, and an annual contribution to the UK economy of 1.7 billion.

00:35:59:18 – 00:36:21:12
So why don't they make us 1.7 billion pound here? How much does it cost us though? That's the thing it was no, it wasn't gonna be 1.7 billion or whatever. But and I think the 510 million a year. Right. Okay. So that's a bit the 1.2 billion pound in profit. Okay. So that's not an argument, is it?

00:36:21:14 – 00:36:42:21
I just don't see I think I think people get on their high horses about authority. Like they don't like authority and they don't like, you know, echelons in society, they don't like people who are born to be better than them. And so they want to disband the monarchy, and they want to do all these things and to shut up.

00:36:42:23 – 00:37:12:08
They make this 1.7 billion pounds. Are you going to do that? Then just shut up. I going to say that, you can't do that and I'll listen to you, but what about the, Prince Andrew taxpayer's money lawyers for his, alleged activities? Yeah. That's not good, is it? Nah, that ain't good. But what do you what do you do in that?

00:37:12:08 – 00:37:20:20
It's. I. Everyone deserves a fair trial. Yeah.

00:37:20:22 – 00:37:43:23
Until he's proven guilty, then it's not money misspent, is it? Wow. I mean, yeah, it didn't it didn't go to trial in the end, did it? Yeah. He he paid her with without tax money, though. Yeah. It's not a five. Yeah I mean I don't know if you can say it's with our tax money. That's a Tea party everybody but.

00:37:43:23 – 00:37:59:21
Well I mean like where else is that money going to come from. He ain't got that fucking down the safe Rosie. Yep. Nobody. They do have interest like the like, What's his face, Harry. He owns his own money. No. They all can earn their own money. They are all just sitting there. Just gone. Can we have some more money, please?

00:37:59:21 – 00:38:28:02
Treasury? They are. I mean, if they continue. I mean, it isn't doing that. No. If he's if he's if you're generating 1.7 billion pounds for the economy. Yeah. Then they can take whatever they want up to the tune of 1.7 billion pounds. What for for non-salary. I mean, I'm not specifically I that's exactly what it sounds like.

00:38:28:08 – 00:38:53:22
No, I'm saying that to the point where they are making the economy money. They're not taking anything but creating, aren't they? So if they've got legal fees or if they've got to buy a new car or whatever, it might be, it's fine because they make money. I mean, obviously I was reading up earlier that the, I think some of their, the building maintenance per year is like 40 odd million.

00:38:53:24 – 00:39:10:04
They make 1.7 billion. It could be 400 million. It doesn't matter if they're making money. Yeah, it's mental though. What you want them to do, just live in wrack and ruin? No, that's I think some of the buildings they go into rather because that was it. No. No one's in them. Yeah. Because I don't think anyone else in them ever.

00:39:10:04 – 00:39:29:02
I think it stops at some stage where it's not like you can be like Seventh cousin removed and you're still getting money from the government, I think. I think there's a line where the money, you don't get the money. So there's people like extended versions of the royal family who live in these big houses but don't really have any jobs and can't afford to run the houses.

00:39:29:03 – 00:39:50:23
Remember that program on the BBC? Yeah, that mad geezer who at that met that really incredible manor house. But it was just an absolute shithole because he couldn't afford to run it. And the kids were got a mental drive and ran out on, what I call the quad bikes all over the place. Yeah. This is madness. It was it was quite funny.

00:39:51:00 – 00:40:13:19
The documentary that. But, mentioned that you've met a couple of the royals. Oh, yeah? Who've you met? How? I've met, Prince Charles twice. How? It's not very interesting. So what? I work for exposure. We, we did a lot of work with the Prince's Trust. And this is what I'm saying. Like, if people can turn.

00:40:13:22 – 00:40:38:14
Do you know how much email using work? The prince's trust us. Incredible, crucial work. The benefits that some of the most vulnerable people, vulnerable people in society. Yeah. Of every background. Yeah. So there's many charities that they work for that they raise the profile. Yeah. Put money in. And do you know you know a lot of work with them.

00:40:38:14 – 00:40:59:20
Yeah. For them. Well, yeah. Look what Diana did with the, with raising awareness about Aids and minefields and stuff like that. Like, you might have an issue with the royal family, but you're not doing anywhere near as much good as they are. You're just angry on your sofa, on your phone. That's all you are. That's your entire contribution to this situation.

00:40:59:22 – 00:41:27:10
Is tweeting something that you dislike. The royal family. Yeah, yeah. But you are you what you do look at what Prince Charles is doing. If I can do bits here is continuing to do bits and you're just fat and angry on your on your phone. He's got cancer and he's still doing bits. I he's dad was driving the Land Rover until he was like 98 for he went yeah crashing it every now and then.

00:41:27:12 – 00:41:47:13
Yeah. So he did the Prince's Trust. Prince's credit, the Prince's Trust. The trust did huge amounts of work. And we were at, do the Limehouse. Do you ever been to Limehouse? It's like a club in in, central London, Chancery Lane, I think it was. No, I don't think I have actually very fancy place. I went to a couple of nights out in London, Limehouse, but they never did an event in this instance.

00:41:47:13 – 00:42:08:03
And I was there and working for when I was a youngster. Exposure, which is a charity I used to benefit from. I did some work for the Prince's Trust, and we met him then and then the other times when we opened the new section of the College of, when I was a form of university, and he came and opened it and.

00:42:08:07 – 00:42:30:09
And you met him. Yeah. So was there, I mean, not Charles and he was just shaking the bodies, and he was lovely. I would hang on a second. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I, any of these two events. Yeah. Was there skin to skin contact? Did you shake his hand? Yes. Fucking everyday. Yeah. He shakes. Only hands.

00:42:30:09 – 00:42:57:22
He shakes. Yeah. Probably about 400 fast. Yeah, I know, but I didn't know that. Like the any fucking term dictionary close up to him. Yeah I well the first time would have been in like 97. It does some cursory like the like the rules do some cursory there like get out of the car. They wave to people, then they go over to the poor people and give a couple of handshakes and accept a few flowers, and then they go on their way.

00:42:57:24 – 00:43:17:17
You know, I mean, so it weren't he wasn't mingling. It was he was like going through a crowd as he shook our hands. It wasn't like I sat down with Charles, Prince Charles. No, no, no, but you still. And then and you'd imagine the whole place was locked down. Security was like the new campus at Falmouth University. They.

00:43:17:18 – 00:43:36:08
You weren't allowed in or out unless you was on a list. But we had we had lessons there, so we had to sign in and go for a police barricade thing. Yeah. As mental. Yeah. I'm not really I've never been impressed by that sort of stuff. I'm not bothered. I didn't even want to wait and shake his hand.

00:43:36:08 – 00:43:59:02
I just had to because we, we at the, I was representing the exposure and it would have a bad luck if I had just left. So like the guy Andy. So run the organization said like, you know, shake his hand and and I was like, all right, we're all but not I don't care about, prepped or anything like that has to say, like, don't say anything to Charles.

00:43:59:02 – 00:44:17:20
Just sit around and shake it right like that. No, no, nothing like that. So whatever you I mean, yeah, you say whatever you want. Most people are really courteous, aren't they? And it was just. It was. Yeah. You look at him go, that's Prince Charles. That's cool. Yeah. I met Tony Blair. Well, how did you meet Tony Blair?

00:44:17:20 – 00:44:45:05
I did a was on TV. I was on TV with Tony Blair. You know, so I was a, I was, I was, I was so they what they wanted to do was Tony Blair was prime minister, and they wanted, to get a group of young people to Gwilym or talk to him. All right. And, they contacted exposure about that, and they said, can you send anyone?

00:44:45:07 – 00:45:09:19
And they went, yeah, Gary, you'll do it. So I went to the studio. They picked me up in a car, went to the studio, and we were talking to Tony Blair about a lot of things, but mainly about Iraq War a lot. And, and, and he and Tony Blair said, you know, the most important is also about weapons of mass destruction and all that sort of stuff.

00:45:09:21 – 00:45:32:18
And Tony Blair said, you know, it was a dictatorship before, we were attempting to spread democracy into, an area, you know, so people can vote for whoever they want to, rather than being told who their leader is. And in some, someone of the preference, a democracy in rubble. Because obviously, the blown up blown up in my head, in my head it's me that said it.

00:45:32:18 – 00:45:51:02
But actually I don't think it was me. I think someone else did it. I'm trying to give myself credit. I didn't do it. Yeah. And he he bit to that. He said, no, no, no it's not rubble. And it was that was an interesting experience. It also made me never want to work in TV again because the producers were nobs.

00:45:51:04 – 00:46:12:06
I met a lot of producers in my time, and I would say 70% of the nobs. Really? It's a shame. It's what? Fucking exposure. They call you around a bit point. They. I was deeply entrenched in exposure. Yeah, for a long time. He's the guy that every day in my summer holidays, I'll spend all my time there.

00:46:12:08 – 00:46:41:23
That's. That is, That's how I got into university. I didn't have the grades. I flunked everything so. Well, because you worked at exposure. They were not. They were like, obviously, there's an issue with academia with this kid is a bit thick. Yeah, but he's got something about him. This boy, you know, he's if you're spending every day of your of your summer holiday working for a media magazine, which is what I was doing, they said, well, there's more to life than A-level results.

00:46:41:23 – 00:47:09:09
Luckily I didn't finish my degree. I left, but, if I wrong about that. Fucking it, I feel so. I haven't met anyone. Any royalties or any, Well, I mean, I'd like to. That'd be nice. Why? When I worked at, Moorfields Eye Hospital, when they opened their children's ward, the Queen came and opened their eyes with a group of people behind barricades.

00:47:09:09 – 00:47:41:05
And she just drove past and loads of people. I was just behind barricades with everyone else. While the Queen drove up to the children's ward, and she opened it another tool round it, and I was like, that's the closest I've ever got to a royal, and one that I'd like to live vicariously through. My brother in law, my brother in law got, an MBA and he had to go to Buckingham Palace.

00:47:41:07 – 00:48:11:00
My sister was there and it was the Queen who gave him the award, and he's got an absolute fucking. So if I show up the Queen putting his, MBA on. So, I mean, that's that's one thing, actually, that I will say that it's made the family incredibly proud of that we've got someone in the family that have been to Buckingham Palace, got an MBA, met the Queen, and, that is good.

00:48:11:02 – 00:48:44:16
Yeah. My, my, my sister's husband, Gary, so. I mean, and that was a seven in the RAF. I don't know how he got it. I don't know how he got it. He, he was he was he was serving in Afghanistan. And, he tells me the story, and I can't really. It was something like there was an operation that couldn't go ahead and for it to go ahead, they would have had to do loads of paperwork and red tape, and it would've been a couple of months.

00:48:44:16 – 00:49:05:17
And by that time things would have passed and he was able to get things done a hell of a lot quicker, and the operation was delivered to success. What do you so certain? And you think he doesn't deserve it? No, I didn't say he didn't deserve it. Got. No. I'm saying we're incredibly proud of him for doing that.

00:49:05:17 – 00:49:20:20
But what did you say you did? You did. Don't think he did much know what he was. What the fuck? What have you been listening to? What, are you proud of him? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Incredibly, the whole family is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like the energy. I was it's like you had a bit of an issue that you.

00:49:20:20 – 00:49:50:17
Perhaps you shouldn't have the. You didn't own it. No no no no no. What a front 9999 boots on the floor I don't want to sit it out. Last sight. Yeah. That is the closest thing. And that is like, really kind of, pushing it with a second hand visits of the Queen and stuff like, but, yeah, apart from that, I've not really like.

00:49:50:22 – 00:50:18:14
How do you feel about Harry and Meghan? That kind of, Because it's it's it's a massive thing. And it has been for years within the. Well, I mean, with the country, the press, the worldwide press. Like, do you feel like they've acted like knobs? Do you think that the attention that they that Meghan's got is deserved?

00:50:18:19 – 00:50:43:15
The feel? I'm looking at you and I know you don't care. Oh you don't. No no no no I said no I'm telling you how I feel. I do find her immensely irritating. Yeah. Like I'm kinda with Piers Morgan on this now. I mean, I'm not because he's like, he went too far. Like digging up her dad and not picking him up because he ain't dead, but, like, is he dead?

00:50:43:17 – 00:51:09:05
And like, the. Yeah. Sort of bringing that up. And I just thought I was just like, unnecessary from him. But she's a fucking spang. And she, she's just there's just something intensely irritating about her, and. Yeah, that fucking podcast. Yeah, I was, Yeah. For that fuckin. Yeah, yeah, I haven't we yet. I haven't got my book deal yet.

00:51:09:10 – 00:51:33:06
The power of yet. How about you fucking run in front of a troll lorry? Yeah. So they her decision making and that sort of stuff I find irritating. I don't really give a shit about, like, the infiltration into the royal family or the dilution of it. But you're you have a job when you become a royal, which is what isn't.

00:51:33:08 – 00:51:55:20
This is why I would never swap my life with theirs. You have to do. But you do have to behave in a certain way. There is an etiquette to be a part of the royal family and, the lifestyle they want to live. They, you know, they weren't able to do that. And which is why they've been kind of disbanded or what do you call it, excommunicate, which is when they receive no money, no protection, nothing, no legal protection.

00:51:55:20 – 00:52:28:18
They're on their own now. But then you look at what happened with his mum and how they were treated. I wonder, he thinks a bit like, fuck you lot. He's mum. He's my. That was like. It's horrendous what those two kids went through, losing your mum in that way in such a violent way. She's already been you know, they've gone through the divorce and you know, being bearing witness to a, marriage that wasn't based on love.

00:52:28:20 – 00:52:56:02
You know, kids pick up on all of that stuff. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, they. I'm no wonder they took it. Took it pretty badly. And how public it was obviously. Yeah. Well, I know everyone's trying to get their, you know, pound of flesh with stories and photos and hounding and stuff like that. See how I remember for years after, like people trying to get stuff out of them and how they feared and, and all that.

00:52:56:02 – 00:53:18:06
I just think, man, is fucking imagine having to be that, that focus about the way that your mum died, let alone that she's that she is dead and the way that it happened. And it's just kind of on top about that all the time. It would fucking drive you to be like, yeah, and I don't, I don't want this for my kids.

00:53:18:11 – 00:53:41:08
No, of my, my wife whatever. No one wants to experience them. Mother dying. It's something most of almost all of us will have to deal with at some stage in our lives. But the way she went and the public energy around it that just did not go away for weeks and weeks and weeks, and the funeral that was so, you know, watched the world around and it was easy to forget.

00:53:41:08 – 00:54:12:21
The two kids had lost their mum. And where it is gone, where where where were you when Diana died? Oh, she died on my birthday. So reading my 16th and I went down and I went downstairs, to see my dad, and he went, Diana's dead. And I was like, right, I'm 16. I'll give lesser shit than I did.

00:54:12:21 – 00:54:36:20
Now, how long do I have to wait? Until asking for my presence? I've got to be here now. Oasis CD for that on that, the lovely, So you could tell I was happy about that. That's where I was when I found out. Yeah, I was, I was in I was my dad. I went down to my dad.

00:54:36:20 – 00:55:00:21
My dad was in bed with his wife, and, I sat down, he went, Diana's dead. That was it, buddy. Well, it was you. I was, I was in Spain, eminence. Yeah. Came back, came into the front room. Nance. Glued to the telly, tears rolling down my face. Yeah. What's the matter with you? Diana is dead. What side of the family is it?

00:55:00:21 – 00:55:27:12
Your side? No. Diana. Diana, I don't know where. Diana. Nan. What? You got it? She's got. Look at the telly and looking at the telly. Is that. Oh, fuck. And then picking up. Obviously Diana's dead. That's that's really awful. And then that scene that, you know, the tragedy of how it happened and picking through the pieces of that scene, the photos of the car and all that, it's like, fuck me.

00:55:27:12 – 00:55:53:19
This is actually this is really bad. This is mental. My nan was devastated, as you can imagine, that that sort of generation would have been in the big way. I worked at Woolworths at the time. Oh yeah. And, this went for for younger audiences won't mean anything, but we would sell VHS tapes. Yeah. Woolworths.

00:55:53:19 – 00:56:21:24
That was one of the things that we sold. There were stockpiling, stockpiling VHS. There was a mound in the middle of the store, Woolworths store. There must have been about 4005 pack boxes of VHS tapes. People were queuing up at the door to buy them just so that we could record, there could record, the, the funeral home fucking and read it.

00:56:21:24 – 00:56:38:23
Yeah. And then, because people would record things for posterity back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. You remember like that. You remember back in the day we had we should have talked about this last week when we talked about things that disappeared, but we people would have, cabinets that were dedicated to keeping VHS tapes in them.

00:56:39:00 – 00:56:59:13
And then on the edge of them would be old ones, like what people are taped like 1982 FA Cup final. Yeah. Those are those, you know, whatever it might have been. My dad used to tape Tottenham matches, highlights of Tottenham matches, and I would watch them when I was a kid. Yeah, about the time I've seen Spurs play QPR at Loftus Road on a plastic pitch when I was a kid.

00:56:59:15 – 00:57:20:02
You get to what's his name, Terry Hurlock. And anyway, yeah. So we'd sold, sold loads of those and then what's his face? Elton John came out with candle in the wind. Yeah, I was working. Yeah, yeah, I was working at Woolies, and, I would we sold so many of them. It was ridiculous. We couldn't keep up with demand.

00:57:20:02 – 00:58:02:16
Was selling out. That's insane. I didn't I hadn't even that wouldn't have even crossed my line. I always remember that because where Diana was buried. Is that, like her family? Fucking residency lands in Northampton. The car was driven down the M1, but it came past Milton Keynes. And I remember loads of people going to the side of the M1, out just on the edge of Milton Keynes with flowers and then just seeing, waiting for the car to be, you know, the coverage of it driving down an epic.

00:58:02:18 – 00:58:27:05
It's fucking mental. I'm watching TV of a funeral, of a car, driving down the M1 till it gets to Milton Keynes for me to be like a Milton Keynes hey, hey oh, sorry. Diana sighs. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember my neighbor, my neighbor went, okay if flowers drove down to the M1, fuck. You know, it's like when the Queen died and everyone queued up to go and look at her.

00:58:27:06 – 00:58:52:11
Was it was that right that happened in it? I'm sure it did. Because didn't thingy push in. Yeah. Phillip Schofield sky. Yeah, yeah. Then what happened. Yeah. All that all came out after he pushed away Holly Willoughby. Yeah. She's they've them to know they were Vicky's faves. And now look their whole career was, did I don't know if I remember rightly.

00:58:52:17 – 00:59:21:13
And again, I've always sort of borderline defended a pedo in this podcasts. But I know that you've defended the pedo. You've gone with Piers Morgan. Rick. Schofield technically a pedo. Is he a pedophile? Okay, I don't know. I don't know if it is confirmed because he was a well I mean he met a boy. He said he's definitely like grooming.

00:59:21:15 – 00:59:38:08
Yeah yeah yeah. Well I mean one could, one could assume. Did he bump the boy after he was 16? What do I say. So that we don't get done for this? Well, there's not there. So people think if you just say allegedly. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. Yeah, people just think if you say allegedly, you fine. You can say what you have.

00:59:38:08 – 01:00:00:13
You want, you know. Okay. All right. So my understanding is that he did not have sexual interaction with a underage boy. Okay. But there may have been a suggestion that he groomed the boy until he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know what the truth is, but I don't like it. Yeah. One minute past his 16th birthday.

01:00:00:15 – 01:00:21:23
Matt, get off straight away. I said, I don't know what the f for gay sex. I think it's under 18. And it was that change like it was it changed up to. No actually I always put it up for everyone. I'm 16. Why is it, why would it be for gay sex? You've got to wait. Two years later, there would have been some, extreme homophobia back in the day when they were making rules out.

01:00:21:23 – 01:00:54:24
Imagine. So the Sexual Offenses Act was passed, which decriminalized his prior private homosexual acts between men over the age of 21. In 1967, cut by. I think now everybody is just over 60. Yeah. I mean, that's that's fair. I think that being, you know. Yeah, it does it does feel young. But then I, you know, you use a 12 and you know, nine and I 16, 16 the the magic number.

01:00:55:01 – 01:01:15:12
But I mean, that's when kids did like experiment and when you're at school and stuff like that, I don't I mean, I don't know, I can't really say well, what I would, I mean, if it was up to me and my children now 30, no, six with, none. None. None. None. Not even looking at. Remember, boys. Yeah, I remember talking to Claire.

01:01:15:12 – 01:01:41:01
Go, guy. And just don't just stay away from boys. Just don't have boyfriends. Like the dream. Dream surely is. You. Your girls were into girls. That's the dream. Well, I mean, I don't know if it is. Well, are you homophobic? No no no no no no no no no you're not. You'd be upset if they were lesbian. No.

01:01:41:01 – 01:02:05:04
God, no. Well, you say you're you're no child of mine. Is that what you'd say? No, no no, no, that's the problem. That's not what I was thinking. That obviously you'd want your children to have children, but then they can say, I take that back. But I would say my life, my your dreams have grandchildren. But you, they can like we know.

01:02:05:04 – 01:02:22:02
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know when I 21 now I know, I know so sorry there's been ladies instances. There are a couple you know that apologize to them I know I know that no I'm not apologizing and I apologize to no one I know, but now I'm not doubling down. That was a mistake.

01:02:22:02 – 01:02:40:05
Yeah, I'm not a no apologizing. It was, when I. When it was coming at my mouth, I was then I thought, you know, it was the thing of. That would be the dream. I don't I think it would be the dream. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. I it would be the dream because men are assholes.

01:02:40:07 – 01:02:56:07
Oh, yeah. Got the creeps. But they also not, there are loads of decent men out there that treat women very well. I'm looking at one right now. I'm looking at one. Well, put a name on the fucking mortgage.

01:02:56:09 – 01:03:15:07
I couldn't think anything of bringing any harm to my wife. I couldn't know or her in her in any way. I don't even want to say anything that might upset her. No, but the amount of things, like with the house, I'm like, I might not need to do that as much as that. Yeah, but but, you know, because it makes you happy.

01:03:15:09 – 01:03:40:05
Yeah. I mean, you got a I mean, you've got a because you don't want to. Yeah. Now I get that, I get that, yeah. How, how is just, just to give me a quick update on the house. Yeah. It's we're many floors down kitchens in. Good. Yeah that's good. Bills are coming. Bills are still coming. Good. Not our not said not say good bye.

01:03:40:09 – 01:04:11:17
Just this is what it is. It. It it is right. We are. I've just realized what the fucking time is. God, we I mean, I'm just looking at a picture of, Michael Jackson's daughter Paris. She's white, she's white, and. What? She looks so white. It's unreal. Yeah. Was Michael Jackson ever black? Really? I mean, I was just shout, I don't I was, no, but was is because look at his daughter.

01:04:11:18 – 01:04:30:23
Like, maybe the, you know that everyone said no. He turned white later on because he bleached his skin and all that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Maybe the lie was that he was black when he was young and I wouldn't have had alopecia. That's the one. But you know what? What do I mean? The, impetigo. Impetigo? Yeah. Is that 9999, isn't it?

01:04:31:00 – 01:05:00:16
Yeah. Come on, let's get this. Ricky, what is it? That poor old Mickey is getting labeled? Well, what was it? It's not alopecia. It's not impetigo. What's the word? You know, I'm not going to get it. I'll be honest, because I would have gone with impetigo. But look. Look at this picture. Look at this picture. I saw a picture of it the other day, and I was like, she is also on the WhatsApp.

01:05:00:20 – 01:05:25:15
This is why she. Yeah, she is. So she got it as well. No, I take no I don't know how you would explain it. She has, European features, completely European features. But didn't he have, relations with the Nan? Yeah. No, no, no, I'm sure that he did. She comes from a white woman, clearly. But he would.

01:05:25:17 – 01:05:56:01
His DNA would have some imprint, and it clearly hasn't. Yeah, unless they he didn't use his sperm. He used another man's from. Whose do you think he used? I probably someone that called Peter or something. Yeah, I've seen that I and I get where you're coming. There is the you know, there isn't. It doesn't really seem, a hint of Michael Jackson in that, no.

01:05:56:01 – 01:06:13:15
Michael Jackson. Maybe it was a surrogate. Maybe it was some sort of surrogacy thing. I know it must have been. Have you seen blanket as well? Blanket? You know, his son? Some full blanket. Well, that's what you used to call him, didn't they? I thought they held a blanket over his face, so he didn't want to be like.

01:06:13:15 – 01:06:46:04
So his face didn't appear in the papers. Okay. No, it's the a blanket as well, I tell. No, it wasn't all. Prince Michael Jackson died playing a fucking blanket. Am I getting mixed up with, Keith Lemon and one of his impressions, I think. I think it was just held over the he's names. Be biggie. Biggie. So he looks more Arab, but they kind of you can sort of say maybe mixed race out.

01:06:46:04 – 01:07:19:13
Oh, that kind of makes more blanket Jackson. He does have a little blanket. I told you. So that they look more Middle-Eastern there. Yeah. Doesn't really but but fine. Like you can see the sort of there's something there going on. Like there's a nice mix there. Whereas the border that's just a white woman. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. I will investigate this over here.

01:07:19:13 – 01:07:42:06
Peter. I mean, sahab, on the. Well, I mean, it was probably. Yeah, I was going to say maybe not for the kids. Oh, no. All for the kids. Yeah. I mean, there is, isn't it's hard to say whether he was or wasn't. I mean, it's like, you know, when when he's gone now we can all come out the woodwork and say, yeah, touch me.

01:07:42:07 – 01:08:13:02
Give me 500 mil. But he needs any Neverland documentary I have. He definitely done it. You reckon? Yeah, I reckon he was erratic. Odd behavior, sleepovers, childlike mentality. So. But I don't think there was like, they didn't fix. In what, bombing? No. Maybe not dicks out. Yeah, maybe. Dicks out. You can't have your dicks out with kids.

01:08:13:02 – 01:08:31:12
That's that's against the law, Ricky. Yeah, yeah. You're right. Yeah. People just walk around listening to Michael Jackson like he didn't do that. Didn't bum the kid. Yeah. I mean, like, if if Michael Jackson's song comes on, would you say Skip? I don't want to listen to this. Would you be like, oh, let's play as well. So yeah.

01:08:31:12 – 01:08:50:00
Yeah, yeah I would if it come on remix to ignition on Wheels, I could do anything. I think I've heard it so many times. I don't want to listen to that anymore. Oh, come on, you still will. If he came on the club. No, I don't. I just find him horrible. Now I draw the line of lost profits.

01:08:50:02 – 01:09:15:09
Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's too much. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I mean, I've got myself down to where I maybe two weeks ago and because I did like a couple of their songs back in the day and I was trying to remember one song, was it called I can't, I can't, I don't know, I, you can't sing its profit song.

01:09:15:15 – 01:09:42:19
I think it was called something like Shinobi Dragon versus Ninja some and I, it's a fucking weird name. Dragon Ninja version, I don't know. Anyway, it was a banger. I enjoyed it, but then, and then because I'd looked at that or I was researching it, looking what the song was called, lo and behold, a little new story pops up of Ian Watkins.

01:09:42:21 – 01:10:05:05
And then that was on my feed, and I was reading into what was going on with his life. His court case and all that. Mate, it is fucking insane. Yeah. Literally insane. Yeah, that is like King of Nonces. Yeah. He's disgusting. He's at the top of the hill. No, I'm not saying all of it's disgusting. None of. It's right.

01:10:05:06 – 01:10:29:06
That is like the worst. Like you're ranking them is number one worst rate. I mean, not Saville's got to be savage, so I was I was bad, yeah. So I was like, two. Maybe it depends upon the severity. Like if he was fucking babies. Ricky. Yeah, I know, yeah, it's number one. The younger they are, and the more you do is the worst.

01:10:29:08 – 01:10:57:03
Yeah. No, you're right, you're right. It's all bad. But that's the worst. And the people helped him. The women in the nurseries helped him. It's like yeah, well, how do you even start that conversation that day? How do you broach the subject that you want them to help them molest babies? Mine is when you read it. Have a little read about it after this is just to kind of get enough flavor.

01:10:57:07 – 01:11:21:08
Yeah, but, you know, I know enough. But if you're doing Top Trumps, he's number one. Like he is the top trump. I would have argued Savile, but, what you've just said there with the babies. But yeah, he went babies I think surveillance. How long do we know what Saville did specifically? Like did that ever come out or do we just assume it was it touching or was he did he doing it all?

01:11:21:10 – 01:11:41:19
What do you mean with Saville doing it? Oh, well, I like a lone wolf. I don't know, was he doing the worst bits of, like, penetration and stuff like that as well? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, really, I don't know. I've never heard. Yeah, I've tried to shy away from that news then. Yeah. He the on numbers levels he'd probably be maybe one.

01:11:41:22 – 01:12:15:24
Yeah. Oh yeah. That's a, that's what I was going for because it's years and years and years. Yeah. And if I know so and MJ and R Kelly who's worth their. You've got to go for R Kelly because he, he was found guilty. Was there it did. Was there a court case about MJ? I, I don't know, I feel like there was in people or outside the court case and they released stuff when he was found, actually.

01:12:16:01 – 01:12:41:05
Okay, go. And in all of this as well, you've got fucking Gary Glitter knocking about Cambodia. I mean that is what's he doing now. Where is he in Cambodia? I don't really know. He got booted out. We know we know that one. Yeah, yeah. If they keep you out of what you up to? He, I think he got.

01:12:41:05 – 01:13:09:11
He came back, didn't he? He came back and got, went to prison. Hang on this. Oh, no. Here is an update as of, oh, that's great. Signatory. It's a stay in jail parole. Bit refused in 2015, 81, whose real name is Paul Gadd, was jailed for child sex offenses. And then in 2023, less than six weeks after being released halfway through his 16 year sentence, he was recalled for jail for breaching license conditions.

01:13:09:13 – 01:13:37:15
Plus this bag. Hang on a second, say, well, he got 16 years and he walked after six. You call it half your sentence that you got out after eight. Good behavior. That's mental. That is mental. It's just something like that I think. Yeah. Child sex offenses. Okay. He should have half his sentence. Really? I'll never understand that. You know, like you get life for murder, which is 14 years and 15 years and then, you know, five good baby.

01:13:37:17 – 01:13:57:15
Like walking after seven. Whatever I turned, I just had a I dreamt last night I was in prison. And that's to convince a parole board to let me go. And I also dreamt that John was interviewed. Bravo for the fighting cock. And he wanted out. He wanted to leave. You were Eric with me? You. So. Yeah, John was doing.

01:13:57:15 – 01:14:15:02
And then we turned up late, and then we got involved. And you. And listening to you. I think you want to leave Tottenham. And Perry was like, yeah, yeah, I tell you, I only playing some. And I was like, this is such an exclusive. I release this on the phone. Some people can go mad anyway. And then I was in prison.

01:14:15:04 – 01:14:45:24
I can't remember what, you know, why you live in these places. You know, he fake, right. The topic for next week was, It is going to be our worst purchases ever. Could be a product service. If you've been to a shit festival, bad holiday, anything. What have you been short change about? What have you walked away from experience thinking fucking hell, I cannot believe I've paid money for that.

01:14:45:24 – 01:15:06:00
I will never, ever do that again. If you've got any stories as usual, send it to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out and we are going to go swiftly onto something only you know.

01:15:06:02 – 01:15:13:00
What? Something? You know.

01:15:13:02 – 01:15:42:08
Thai biscuits. I was on holiday with my mates in Thailand. It was the night of the full moon party. We were steaming and managed to secure some disco biscuits. We all double dropped as we thought they can't be that good because we bought them off. A random Thai woman. We. We were wrong. They were very strong. The last thing I remember, I was getting off with the woman who sold us the pills.

01:15:42:10 – 01:16:04:20
I completely blacked out. I have no idea what happened. And the next thing I knew, I was sitting at a random gaff at 4:00 in the morning with two German lads, a Thai couple, a dog, and the woman next to me that sold me the drugs. She kept rubbing my leg, so I thought I must have been getting home, getting on with her all night.

01:16:04:22 – 01:16:24:24
We were all mounted and as the conversation went on, one of the German lads asked her about what it's like to be a ladyboy. I was fucked so that I just went along with it, then slowly realized I was going to have to go back to this ladyboy place. I'm just going to have to do the deed after to.

01:16:25:01 – 01:16:46:22
I didn't know where I was, so I just went with her and I moped. I was starting to sober up and I really started to not want to do this, but I thought, I'm into deep hair. And I was too polite to say I didn't want to shag, especially, especially if his dick was bigger than mine. We got we got into a room and I lay on the bed.

01:16:46:24 – 01:17:11:14
Couldn't get hard. Oh. She eagerly started to suck my belly with a there was nothing. So she grabbed my legs, threw them over my head. I thought I'd start eating my sweaty ass like it was a fancy sandwich. I eventually managed to come in an embarrassingly short time, still with a floppy knob of never had post up clarity like it.

01:17:11:16 – 01:17:33:10
Shortly after, she went to the toilet and I wondered if she wanted me to return the favor. So I grabbed my clothes off the floor and bolted out there like a fucking rocket. I walked back to my hostel whilst occasionally puking on trees that I walked past. When I got back, I told my mates the same story, but about the fact that she had a cock between her legs.

01:17:33:12 – 01:17:55:20
And that is something only I know that. Is that Isabella? Yeah, that is it. But, I just love the little bits of detail. The it's the little bits of detail in there that, you know, this actually is the principle trade off. Yeah. Yeah. No, that was it for me. Is was like this happened, this actually happened.

01:17:55:20 – 01:18:16:07
So pilled up. But you couldn't you didn't know where it was. I've, I've had a couple of instances like that where I've taken so much MDMA. I, I've been in situations that I don't know how I got there, who the people are around me, those. That was one time in Amsterdam. But we've taken so many pills and I was just in this house.

01:18:16:09 – 01:18:40:15
I don't know how I got there and, talking to people. And because I was in that state where you're so high off MDMA that you start having conversations with yourself and your net. Yeah, yeah, it's almost like you're disassociated from here. You you are. Yeah. And then you're talking to yourself. I was doing that in front of a room full of strangers.

01:18:40:17 – 01:19:10:05
May and anybody. They could have killed me. It's mental to think back the things that we've put ourselves through, the situations we've been. We've done that. Because it's amazing. Right? The topic for next week is I've forgotten. You already forgot. That's it. Things that you, you know, I forgot. And I can't find that the running note. That doesn't matter if you've been let down by,

01:19:10:07 – 01:19:28:14
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