#138 | Art | Posh Paintings, Pub Takes & Banksy

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Right. Okay. You got delivery coming right? Yeah, I do, so if I do, like, you hear the, the ring doorbell will go off on my phone, but I'll have to go out and get it because, And I'll only be 15 seconds. I just carry on. Just, you know, killing for me. That'd be great. Yeah. No problem.

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Yeah. So nothing exciting. Yeah. I mean, what's what? What do you mean? Yeah. Delivery of loads of stuff. Is it like a, well, a sundries? I think that's what they would call it. Right. There's cook up my, the bulb in cook. I heard. So boring that's blown. So no fabric, not fabric softener, but the stuff that you spray, I wouldn't like smells that boring.

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Ricky, they're all boring. I am, there's a plug for my washing machine. There's, Well, I I've got something for you. I've got something for you. Yeah, yeah. 12 ultra thin condoms. Whoa. What? What? Why? To use them to do the old, sexy. Oh, oh, you bought. You put them, you use condoms. I'd I we we'd we.

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It's a it's why it's a strange phenomenon when I tell people and they're like, oh, you you you used to use it. You're 43. You should know. Yeah. You're in a long standing relationship, you know, healthy, long standing relationship without any six years, baby. Anyways. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My missus, she refused to go on the pill, not refused to go on the pill, but she just,

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She doesn't like putting foreign objects apart from my piece. Yeah, in her body. Foreign in more ways than. Yeah, well. Whoa. Excellent. Yeah. No, no, I like the coil and stuff like that, I understand that. Oh, but in the pill or the pill, she she she wants her body to, What's the word? I'm looking for a beard to regulate itself.

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So when she's fed, when she's fed and what she needs to feel, her body will tell her that she hates taking paracetamol, ibuprofen, all of that stuff. Nothing goes in. What about all like the MDMA in that from when you. Yeah. But yeah. No we don't we don't count. No it doesn't count. It feels get the gray area.

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You know they, they send the C circles and then there's something in the middle that's yeah. You're right. Now I'm just, I'm just blown away that you're still banging with johnnies at the 43. Well, yeah. I mean, the I. So there is the only option, obviously, if she doesn't. But why don't you, you shove up your ass?

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I would do that. I'd do anything. When we were younger, actually, we, you know, teenagers. When we were teenagers, she did go on the pill because it was like, oh, I'm a teenager now. I can go on the pill when you can, like, leave it in if you want. Sling it up. Fill your boots. So, you know, I did, but then it just got to a bit where she was just like, you know what?

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I don't really. This feels unnatural to me. And I was that far, and I just. I go in the johns in it. I reckon it's like she doesn't want. You're just pain constantly ballerina. Whereas the, the condom is like a barrier. The condoms like effort. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Whereas if there was no barrier, you'd just be like be the pest.

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Yeah, I mean, it, it's that's all of that is absolutely true. There's also like and people. Right. What are you fucking going to put out message, son? I hope my mum ain't listening to this, but she, She might be anyway, I don't care. Who cares? We're all adults. But yeah, I just like. But there is that, you know, the pull out method of that.

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That isn't a method. But ask for pregnancy. Exactly, exactly. So I don't want to as you know, the the crescendo is about to happen. You don't really want to stop, do you. Go order in that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You're good. Comes out. Yeah. I never I mean I would say there were times when I was most, you know, like going out in that, where I would often you'd think I'm going to be sensible.

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I'll always wear a Johnny, but, you know, you just stick it in and they want it in. Yeah, that's the key. That's the key part. Right? Right. Okay. There's it was always very, very sort of consensual. So. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So I didn't really I didn't really did which it did not have it in your mind that.

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Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But not as much as I just wanted to put it in that I wanted to put in more than I was worried about it. You. Yeah. Yeah, I know I get that. I fully get that. I know when it's like 2:00 in the morning, if you make it. So. Yeah. Yeah. Of course.

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Yeah. Oh, in the night. Yeah. Yeah. So that that was it. But then, I got tested and it was all right. I was clean as a whistle. I've never been tested.

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Never been tested. I know by now if you had Aids. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I mean, start to show. Think. Yeah. It would show my kids look. All right. Well, healthy functioning. Yeah. Ten fingers, ten toes a lot. We're all good. Yeah. I mean, having, doesn't perform. You know? I know, but if there's anything else, any other kind of, like, disease that I know, I may have someone I know, left his girlfriend because he gave her chlamydia, and said that she gave it to him.

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So that is, he was too afraid to own up. Oh, my good lord. Terrible, horrendous. So are you saying he's got a few mates? It still used on his own? Yeah, I've got a couple, probably collecting dust knowing them, but, So when you. When did you last when did you last buy a package on this?

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Before this point? I'd probably say, I don't know, 4 to 6 months. Yeah, fine. Yeah. Yeah. So at what point do you go. Right. I've got a bit of journey on. Well, I mean, there is a lot of, let's say tomfoolery that is happening. Yeah. So then when it gets close to, you know, there might be the wolf's at the door, then it's a good reset, actually, if I'm honest.

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Yeah, it doesn't ever go down, but you've got to. Yeah. No, no. And, buys me time. In fact. Buys me time. Yeah. Time that I desperately need. Yeah. Because I'm saying, like, why don't you go from not using condoms to using them? It feels like it barely feels like sex. Well, I mean, it's there is a there is a difference.

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Sure. That's why, you know, Ultra Thins are helpful. Yeah. It's it's like Jak2. Yeah. How long do you think you would. So the only time you've done protective sex is when you've had the babies. The girls pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And on that night was you trying at that point? Nah, it's just full of, Yeah.

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Powder.

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And and isn't it incredible and wonderful, right, that you've put two living human beings onto this planet? The best thing I've ever done, I think I ever will do. I was, of course, absolutely. But that it was a bit powder. But. Yeah, but is the reason. Yeah. Yeah. Right. If you hadn't, if you chosen to not be at the general on those evenings.

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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The two most wonderful things that you've ever done wouldn't be here. Yeah. Of course. Absolutely. And they say drugs are bad, right. Exactly. I, I digress. Yeah. Except well yeah. Everyone got nominated. The I did actually, I told you about this, I'm sure did I did go and put myself in for, a little seco, didn't I?

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No. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I did. Yeah. So when you vote, it says. And I said like native to me. Said why? I said I'm 40. This is when I was 42, 41. Yeah. Yeah. Two kids long term relationship just want to be sexy me blah blah blah blah. Yeah sure. It's NHS I'm cool with a nurse.

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Yeah, yeah NHS like straight away at the phone call with a nurse, blah blah. Then they sent me this leaflet and then they sent me a website to look at. And I was reading it and I was absolutely fine and I was like booked in for the next day, or the penultimate day. And then I was reading through the stuff and it said there was this bit where you could have it and you could suffer from this thing.

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I mean, it was more scientific than this, but achy bollock. Yeah. So your body, one of your ballocks always aches afterwards. Yeah, it can happen. And I thought, I mean, do I want to be living with Nike Ballocks just because I could not in my missus rig and, and I was like, really kind of weighing it up.

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What happens? Does it mean when you say nothing like nothing comes out? No. No shit. No, it does come out. It does come out. I didn't. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It all comes out. It's just maybe that there is a filter on the tadpoles. Right. You use like liquid lads. You go tadpoles. You stay in the. They all get tied up.

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Do they all get strangled on the way in as well?

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So you didn't do it. Do you know I so you bottled it? Yeah. The day before they said. Right. Have you got a temperature? Have you had Covid? Have you got a call? Rah rah rah. You boot camp 9:00. And I was like, I don't want it. She went, scuse me. And I was like, I don't want to.

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I'm scared. And I went, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whispered down the final track, so you didn't. I thought you said I had Covid. No, no, you just said I didn't want to. I'm scared. Yeah, yeah. And she said that it's very minimal but is a I have to warn you that these things can happen. And one of my mates as well, like one of my schoolmates, we were booked in at the same time to have it done.

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Right. He was, one week before me. Yeah. And then he was telling me that when he was trying to clear the tubes. Because you have to, that he was, ejaculating blood, and he went to drive to work a couple of days after, and he said his balls were so sensitive, he couldn't sit on his seat while he was driving.

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And I was like, I don't need this. I think I'll just carry on doing it in the journey. So I'm funny. Oh, Tesco bag, whatever. Yeah, I, I it does make me feel funny, even though I've never had kids and my missus is a has been on the coil for a while. But she's I don't want, I don't want, I don't want period.

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So yeah that's fine. Yeah. It's like whereas your wife is like, I want my body to be my missus. Like there. Yeah. That's. Yeah. I'm getting out of it. Yeah. That's what. Yeah. That's that is she does feel interested in it. She still feels hormonal, but she just doesn't have the physical active period. While the call. Yeah. But I was going to say when I went, what did you think I did with the information they gave me before my hernia operation?

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Didn't read any of it at all. That didn't read of it. What am I doing? What do I do with the information? Do I have to have. Do I have to have this? Yes. It will go into your ballocks. If you don't. So then why do I need to know all the things that could go wrong if I have to have this right?

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Take that book, nurse, and shove it up your ass. I don't what I got. Yeah, yeah. There is a 5% risk that you'll be impotent after the hernia operation. What are you saying? That there's another way. Is there another way out of this? Then don't tell me what can go wrong. I just do it. Do you think the rest of me knowing this stuff.

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Do you not think that impacts me? The stress of it, knowing this stuff. Just get it. Get it down. Get me in there. Get it done. More. Much more for what's the word? Not ask the not. That's not the word. I'm sure I take a bit of my cock. I'm sort of taking a bit. It's I'm. I'm convinced.

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I swear. It's smaller than it was before I had the operation. Really? Yeah. I've told you about it, I'm sure, it sounded like I was joking. I'm not joking. I think with taking about half an inch, I mean, that could happen. Like, because I didn't read. I didn't read mine. I know what happens. What I think's happened is your hernia has pushed from the inside out and pushed your cock out more because the hernia said when they've taken the hernia away, it's gone back to its normal.

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So it was always small, but it's not small. I've seen it many a time. That is not small. You're a liar. I don't not liars. God shuts up Ricky. I'm average at best. But yeah, I got well, not small then, is it? No, no, it's not like a micro penis or anything like that. But he's showing me it now.

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No chance that no, I'm sick of showing you my cock. Right? Wrong. That. Run the jingle, jingle.

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The night hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes. He is quiet at midnight. Waves surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm he of different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Man is I we like to speak and yeah times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise. Hello and welcome to lads anonymous is episode 138.

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I'm Ricky, he's flap two best mates. One main topic. We answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature. Something only you know. Oh, mate, we've got a fucking banger today and everything remains anonymous. Okay, so sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going, Flav? You, You well? You good? Yeah, I'm all right. Yeah. Well, good.

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Going to see Fred again. Oh, well, you didn't mind, right? Oddly enough, and coincidentally, I'm going to see Fred again tomorrow as well. Really? Read. What is it? Know that, Fucking hell, did. Nobody told me. They're not. I didn't know that. Nah. No way am I. I am so busy. And can we just as a pair extend off thanks to who is now become our best friend in the world?

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Yeah, but forever. Ever, ever best friend. Ever ever ever. Yeah. Like I, I love him so much. And this is a man I would do anything for. In fact, I think we should replace each other as this man's new best friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm up for that. I'm up for, I was even going to say, you know, you were saying about the, the the creation of life.

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Yeah. I played my part in wanting to give one of them up and bring him into my house to live with me. Yeah, I mean, he is a grown man, and I know he spent it, but he's never, like, he's never around, so he's always. He's not. But around the world, it's not about you around the world, but lying wherever he is.

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I never know where he is. And I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. Usually I need my best friends to check in with me. Not. Not Tony. No, no, no, Tony can do what he likes. Sure. What you want to do? You want to tour around the world with Freddie and you'd do that? Well, yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Come on. Yeah. Fill your boots. Take this. Enjoy yourself. Enjoy yourself. Yeah. So. Yes. Thank you. Is what we say. Thank you. I'm on my knees at the moment. Just on my knees. Hands like in the prayer. Giving thanks. Yeah. Appreciation. Gratitude. All of it. I mean, it is amazing. So thank you so much.

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Time. Honestly, is the fucking. Yeah. You are the best. Yeah. We're very we're really excited. The fact we get to do it together. Rick. You fucking know, I have so many pills and you got. I'm not really. I'm. And I'm not right now, but we, Yeah. My glasses. Oh, wait. Yeah, yeah. Oh, mate, it's going to be,

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About you. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's I, I've just I, you know, when, like, you, proper buzzing over something. I keep thinking about it a week, three days left. Yeah. Two days left. Yeah. Nice. And my missus exactly the same. Yeah. Mate? Yeah, mine is potently top. They have they just for. Just for Freddie. Don't say it.

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That is adorable. No. Come on. I'm looking forward to it. Should we get, Do you know what we're talking about this week? Art? Very good. You told me before we saw it. Recorded. Yeah. No, no, I just thought, you know, for you, some, ketosis. Well, it's not real. Oh, I suppose, or. Gordon, just. Yeah. Let's say something else.

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Right? Art. Right. What is art? The expression of application of human creative skill and imagination. Typically in a visual form, such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. Now. Well, I get into lots of art chat. What are you like, as, an artist? I mean, you an artist, but, like, I want to know what your, drawing is like, or sculpture or where, your creativity in that physical sense.

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I got to, I got to get get to relatively good at sketching and stuff. When I was at school and off the after school, I used to draw a lot with, charcoal and and fuck off, really pastels and stuff like. Yeah. No, I'm not saying it's just through practice. It's not. I, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I'm fortunately I wasn't you know, some people got given that their art history whereas other people have to work really hard to get anywhere just to be from mediocre to not.

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I mean, yeah, some people were born to play the guitar, but others forced themselves into a position where they can play to. No, I mean, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, their brain sees it. Their brain works in the way that it lends itself to that. So I would put myself in the latter, in that I got to a point.

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Right. So I would quite enjoy producing what I did. But then when there was no incentive like, you know, exams or anything, I just I haven't picked up a piece of, you know, a piece of art in it since my, semi as, you know, as an artist, I remember it was just very, very young where the, you know, the realization your capabilities of an artist.

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Now, when we were in primary school, there was a tea towel that every single kid got. But you used to have you had to draw yourself in your class with your classmates. So everyone had to produce a small character of what they looked like and then submit it. This tea towel gets printed with everyone's pictures and their form on it is given out to the kids.

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I remember when we received that. When we. Yeah, when we received ours. Everyone's like interesting drawings, right? For everyone. Scraggly, scraggly hair, big eyebrows, legs longer than the other leg. Oh, stuff like that. Mine was just a baked bean, is all I can describe it. It was just a heads, with eyes and nose and mouth and everyone else's was a fully formed people.

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So I was a little bake bean amongst an actual class a fully. I'd love to see that. But I've still got it genuinely still going well in your house. In my house? Yeah. So within touching distance? Yeah. No. Within touching distance. I will feel the loft. Yeah. It's in that, It is fucking insane when you see it.

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Compared to everyone else's. And then. Then I knew I wasn't destined for, being an artist. And then when I. When I was at school, obviously, you have to do, mine was fucking atrocious. But, you know, other people's were. But then when I was doing A-levels, I wanted to do, I just to do graphic design A-level.

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And the main reason for that is because when I was younger, my first realization of being that I would not out of my first job, I ever wanted to do as a fireman. But then the actual when I was nearly an adult was I wanted to be a website designer, and my A-level graphic design, course said it had website design in it.

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And I was like, fucking. Well, I don't know, Dave Maynard was in it. But then I found out it was for two weeks on the second year of the course. And also I that's fucking no good. So I've got to spend a year and three quarters being a graphic designer. And when you looking at other people on Macs and all these graphics that they've produced and genuinely and I mean, mine was like Stickman and I was like, this is fucking ridiculous.

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Whoa. What was I just I just quit, you quit there. And then, you know, when I just pushed my chair out, I just walked out of class and never went back. So this is so you like the idea of being a. Hey, what, did they not tell you about this? No no no no no, no matter what is it graphic design, A-level.

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Yeah yeah yeah yeah. How did you get on there? I don't know actually. Today I suppose if you have five GCSE it doesn't matter already. Yeah. Yeah I guess I would teach you how to approach graphic design as a whole rather than specializing in one, one thing things as well, like graphic design when we were at school. So doing your, GCSEs, there was nothing that was similar to graphic design to then move you to that transition of being a graphic designer that is getting the paints out on the clay and making a fucking ashtray or something like that.

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Then you go into doing using a MacBook and graphic design. There's no like in-between bit. So I didn't know if I was any good at being able to go on the computer and do it. There's only so much when you think your clipart presentation looks pretty good. Yeah, I think, yeah, I could do graphic design, I can, I can do it.

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Yeah. And then you get in there with people that are kind of do it creative and like minded. Yeah. And you look at their work and you think, oh my good lord, what have I done there? There's a case in point. Areas like that isn't my forte. I think I've got an idea about what I think looks good, but I can't create it.

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So. But I did a lot of work with our friend Barry, and a lot of work with Charlie, who? Yeah. And now you can do it. Boy, can they do it. Like they just say things differently. You can articulate. I want sort of want this. And they'll do it better than what you've said. Yeah. And then and so like when we used to produce the fanzine the Fighting Cock fanzine.

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Yeah. What you got to realize when you're doing this, when you're creating something that you've got to surround yourself with people that can do things you can't and then give them the freedom to just be creative. So if you're bringing the designer in, you might have an idea, like an overall idea about what you want something to look like.

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But then you bring in a designer to elevate it and don't get in their way like there was. I've worked with people before that they just got in the way and don't get in their way, actually. Yeah, like it might not even be exactly how you want it. There might be things that are not quite right unless something's, you know, diametrically different to what you need it to be.

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Then in that instance, you have to talk about it generally. My rule of thumb was I found this guy who is so good and Charlie so good. I'm not qualified to correct them in any significant way if they feel like this is right, typically I'll go. All right, I trust you. And that's it. Yeah. And that's, that's the thing is, is that you'll meet those people that I can use Photoshop.

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Yeah, I can make move things around. I can make things to a certain degree, but I can't use Photoshop. Photoshop is a tool. Whereas people think, oh, I want to learn Photoshop. You can learn how to use the program is still you're the creative. What you create is comes from you still. Yeah, even in AI, even to a certain degree, when you create images or whatever you might be doing with AI programs.

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It's your it's what you think should sound good or look good based on your your personal opinion. That will in fact impact the final product. So I don't know. Yeah. I mean like it's quite interesting what you're saying about, like Photoshop or Premiere, like I, you, I use these often obviously cutting up vids and doing stuff for, for large or whatever it might be, but and I know how to use, you know, the fucking magnet tool or whatever tool you need, right.

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But there are ways on how you couldn't do different things. And like with an artist or like someone like Charlie or Barry. They would adjust the brightness or the contrast and do this and start it up and yeah, yeah, it's amazing. And also, like for photography, Sam, at that at Tottenham, he's a Sam Corniche.

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His iPhone photographer is amazing. And, Adam met your mate Adam at the weekend. Yeah. He's brilliant. He shoots on film still, And, but I remember Adam meeting Adam when, I worked with him at Ball Street. And at that point, you took an interest in photography and work with a guy called. Wow. Yeah. Work with a guy called, junior who was also interested in photography.

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And junior really kind of, I think this is correct. Sort of took it, took him under his wing to a certain degree and showed him about it. And then he was doing digital photography and then he moved on to film. And then obviously he's interested in football. His Brentford fan, he's actually been on the lab a couple of times talking about for Thomas, Frank, he went to refugee camps.

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He went around Grenfell, which is really passionate about capturing people. And he's like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah. And he, but now he's created a look that looks different from others somehow. And now he's working. Yeah, he's doing work with he's doing work with Getty. So he's got a nice. Yeah. So he's gone from taking an interest to working for the biggest compiler of photography in the world, G.

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Yeah. And you know, how do you know he got that for someone? He well, I want to say this about trying to take credit for it. It's just he knew I knew someone I knew Adam at. He knew of Adam's work. Yeah. And that's how it works. And you don't know where these opportunities are going to present themselves.

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And until you start doing something, I get a lot of people message me in, like, the I mean, I don't want to start a podcast and I'm like.

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Why? If you want to start a podcast, why haven't you started it? Why are you talking to me about it? Like, it's like it's not us. So I should say talk to me about it by all means. But start doing it first, like it's, Because how much do you want it if you haven't started about it? If you're just thinking about it.

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I mean, so, And you don't know what might come and Adam become an expert in creating. And I consider his work, when, you know, 100%, there isn't. Yeah. Yeah, there is no way I would never, like, say even question that, by the way, not by Adam. You find his stuff on? On. I was literally about to say everyone that I've referenced or flab has reference.

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See, I will drop their link in. If you say Linktree, I'm going to fucking scream. Not in Linktree. It'll be in the podcast description. Thank you. Yeah, I won't click some fucking link. Trees like they I'm telling you loads. It loads everyone. Everyone's on Linktree.

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What they want to actually speak to you about? Because you just said about the I that you have, you feel like you've got an eye for a design or photography or whatever it might be. Yeah, I feel like that you can eye an eye for it. I just feel like I know what I like. Yeah. I'm not learned in any way.

00:30:08:13 – 00:30:28:05
Okay, so that's for you. For a piece of art to be created that you feel like you can, at least have some guidance in it to say, I feel like that looks good and that looks good. Yeah. And look for me. Anyone that will put something under my nose that I haven't created, I'll be like, that's that's cinema, baby.

00:30:28:05 – 00:30:52:09
That's fucking that's amazing. I would you like anything? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I would just be like, yeah, it's fine, it's fine. But so we've like, in that sense, art galleries and stuff like that, like actual real pieces of art. I'm looking at a piece of art behind you, actually. I'm looking at three bits of art behind you.

00:30:52:11 – 00:31:14:15
Well, one of them is just text. It's just a font. I can't even remember who did that. I think I found it on that. It's full disclosure. That is when me and the missus got together. She would say. I'd say you, me, and she, I mean you. We'd say that to each other all the time. And that's part, part the reason why I've got out there.

00:31:14:17 – 00:31:33:23
No way. Yeah, I was supposed to put them in the house, but I'm not sure she likes him. So what was a romantic gesture? Turned out to be, you know, anyway, yeah. And I mentioned Charming Baker. That that guy there, and I can't remember whether I think I just saw that on the internet. The, rather in the main room made me laugh.

00:31:34:00 – 00:31:40:11
And you got left one behind. Directly behind you. Yeah. It's, it's just a fat.

00:31:40:13 – 00:32:17:16
Jacket that says fuck it. Yeah, that's what you said. Edgy. But this is more like graphic modern art, right? It's it's it's stuff like you're buying, you know, one of these framing shops. So. Yeah, I remember when I went round to, your your brother's house, I think there's Ross's house. And he had, like, some really cool, artwork in his house, and we were just about flicking through it and stuff and, like, do you feel like, look, dude, would you buy art for its value?

00:32:17:17 – 00:32:37:13
Like, and, as a, as an investment because people buy art if I know enough about. Yeah. I mean, if I knew enough about the world, then that definitely I would, but I don't I don't know, I don't know enough about it. I've got, you know, you know, James Woollcott, he's a mate of his whose industry is buying and selling art.

00:32:37:13 – 00:33:02:16
That's what he does. And you just need you need to know. So much like antiques is about information and knowledge. My brother Ross is, like, really good eye for things like antiques and and stuff like that. He's he's always finding bits are worth loads more than the. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. Just this week he paid about £30 for, a, bowl and it's worth about £800.

00:33:02:18 – 00:33:20:11
And he just looked at it and you just knew it was valuable, whereas I wouldn't, I wouldn't have a clue. So no, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do anything for that. It just be for I and what I think would, might look good around the house. Yeah. I've always been tempted. So, you know, jealous in, jealous art gallery.

00:33:20:17 – 00:33:43:22
Yeah. That's what. But in Crouch End, and I was always kind of, thinking about, you know, whether they have screenprint ins and it's like in the corner one of 25. Yeah. This costs x amount. And I was like, no Sean Baker or whoever, that's 129 of 100 and.

00:33:43:24 – 00:34:12:11
95. Right. Okay. Whereas the half point one I sold was, I was like one of 250, I think less maybe. Maybe less. Oh, wow. That doesn't mean a lot. They do a lot of limited runs is to do with the artist mainly. Yeah. I mean, but it it always kind of, I don't know enough enough about it, but that kind of thing, that investment always did, fascinate me.

00:34:12:17 – 00:34:41:17
And like, I always thought if I did come into it, not come into money, but if I did have a bit of fucking cash around me, then that I'd like to do that, will you? What are you doing? What you. What you got there, boy? Is. Oh. Yeah. Oh. By Chris Guest. The sheer to. Oh, my God, sign to you.

00:34:41:17 – 00:35:06:15
He's. Well, yeah. Let's listen to the pod. That's fucking cool, man. Yeah. Chris just kind of looking up on Instagram paint. Sort of very attractive ladies, basically. Yeah. That is lovely stuff. Did you, is that to go up or did you know we were like 300,000 followers on Instagram? Oh, that means something for these people. Yeah, it won't be to go up, but I just can't afford to frame it at the moment because I'm,

00:35:06:20 – 00:35:28:09
I've got a script, so. Right. Okay. That's the. That's fair enough. I did want to actually know that. Yeah, I know there was, it was just, but you said about your, your art and stuff I do when I do want to kind of do some name drops of, art in my house as well.

00:35:28:11 – 00:35:59:02
Like, I so I have this very specific memory that I wasn't always like. I'm not into art. Right? I did think it's very, from my background, art was, you know, you go to a museum or an art gallery is incredibly quiet. It's just posh people, middle class people looking at shit that isn't really fucking, you know, there's a banana sellotape.

00:35:59:02 – 00:36:21:13
So. Oh, yeah. Fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Okay. Right. So we've got like old, old school like paintings, like oil paintings and. Yeah. Had you heard about that stuff, I thought it doesn't do a great deal for me, but there are a couple that if I was like a millionaire, I would definitely go for, like my favorite artist of all time probably is.

00:36:21:15 – 00:36:54:03
Is Turner right? Because I loved what he used to do, what he did with paint to create light and, and, and drama. And you only have to look at you think of, you just googled, Google J.M.W. Turner and you look at some of the things that the, the images created. It's just beautiful. And any at any stage would be relevant in terms of you could put this in any house and it would work.

00:36:54:05 – 00:37:17:20
It is just incredible stuff. And if you see it in person, it's just paint up front. You look at it, you can see the brushstrokes, you stand back. Yeah, yeah. Created light. It looks incredible. It's it's amazing. Amazing stuff. See that scene that night? Now, if you said that if that your description that makes me want to laugh and have a butcher's at that.

00:37:17:20 – 00:37:40:20
Yeah. And go to like an art gallery and have a look at it. But generally speaking, my kind of my, my, the way I felt about art and, like a lot of modern, modernist art, it's just I like, is it art? What we call it are not like, oh, now, you know, the the what's a name of the the lady.

00:37:40:20 – 00:38:03:04
I think she's she's poorly. She got cancer. Her smile died. I'm not sure. She's, she did that bed like she created a bedroom and put it in a, in a in a, in a gallery. Tracey Emin. Tracey. Tracey Emin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've got, I've got an etching of by Tracey Emin. Emin.

00:38:03:06 – 00:38:27:23
No, she's not dead. I don't think she's dead. She is. She got cancer, I think. So anyway, it doesn't matter. Tracey. She, she she did an etching of a woman's body. And it's just. But but I only have it because it's by her. I don't like it too much. Right. Okay. But,

00:38:28:02 – 00:38:47:02
But. Yeah. So she made in the Tate Modern, which is great. I love to say more than 50. So it's some really interesting stuff there. Yeah. I've got yeah, I've got a story after about Tate Modern. Great. But but she created, a bed and I've just googled it now and it's called A Second Life. And on it was basically the bed that she had at home.

00:38:47:02 – 00:39:13:01
She'd recreate it in a in, in the, in the gallery, but it's all sort of detritus around the bed and condoms and things that, oh, it's not my special. Yeah, yeah. It's, you can go. You can go between the 27th of February and the 31st of August. You can go and see it again. It's it's been put in there originally.

00:39:13:03 – 00:39:40:14
It was called My Bed from 1998. And you can live basically, you can go and see it again in the next for 3 or 4 months as of tomorrow, which is lovely. Funny that I actually saw a, you know, a real life kind of version of that when the missus and I were going to view a one bed flat in, where was it now?

00:39:40:15 – 00:40:01:18
Maybe Turnpike Lane or something like that. Parsons. Great. No. Not good. Green by lane. Probably. That's what they went it. And, there was, you know, where it's an open viewing. There's a queue of people outside. We're in this queue and, you know, people are going out as fast as they're coming in. And I was like, fuck, so what's going on?

00:40:01:21 – 00:40:19:20
Then walked in there. So the kitchen tiny is this little dirt. How so? The bathroom tiny dirt. How disgusting. And then went to the main bedroom. There was a mattress just lying on the floor. Nothing there. And I used Johnny right in on the mattress, and I, I saw it right. I can say what people people have come in it.

00:40:19:24 – 00:40:46:01
They hadn't cleaned it up and cleaned it up. So the estate agent or whoever has got key, it's gone out, taken some lady back to the house and his way with her. I just left a used Johnny. You could see the pubes and the jizz in the Johnny fucking. But then if you. If you were, if you weren't an estate agent, like, are you going to be want to clean?

00:40:46:01 – 00:41:01:19
I'm like, fuck if it doesn't get laid. Don't get let me use a shit. I'm touching that shit. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I probably would have got a coat hanger and or a stick and tried to do it. If you dump that in the Tate Modern, would it have been interesting to look at. Yeah. See now. Yeah, I think it would.

00:41:01:23 – 00:41:19:18
Because that bed. Yeah. There is a conversation of whether or not it's, it's art, but that that bed is interesting to look at is lots to see. There's lots to analyze whether it's art or not, I don't know, but it doesn't almost doesn't matter that Johnny probably would have been 3 million. You could buy it for 3 million.

00:41:19:20 – 00:41:39:01
There is that. There is a Johnny in it. There's a giant. I don't know if they've like how to keep everything in place. It must be pinball or something. I'm not sure I am. I went to the Tate Modern when I moved first moved to London, and I was the London boy. And you got to do things that, you know, when you moved to London.

00:41:39:03 – 00:42:05:10
My cousin, my cousin Alec, and his mate Rob, I believe they were going to see a, an exhibition at the Tate Modern, Salvador Dali. Rick, you want to come? Fuck, yeah. This is what, a, a modern London boy fresh from Milton Keynes with the. Yeah, Tate Modern. Let's go see some art. Boy, I went there fucking hated it.

00:42:05:12 – 00:42:24:18
Hated every minute of it. And I, Salvador Dali is this big deal. The melting clocks and all that lot. I was just walking round in silence with my hands behind my back, just looking at stuff, going. I could do that. That looks like it's been done by a kid. A shit, like I there was nothing I, I didn't get.

00:42:24:19 – 00:42:48:22
There was one, actually, and I did buy a postcard of it. I've got the postcard upstairs and it was I might be butchering this, but it was one of those old telephones with the handle over it. And then there was a lobster laying across it, and the genitalia of the lobster was positioned where the mouthpiece was. So was this kind of cunnilingus lobster, type of metaphor.

00:42:48:22 – 00:43:11:20
And I was like, I like that. I'm having a bit of that. I'll buy the postcard of it. But that's my only memory of it. So that kind of art, I just, you know, the screaming man at one. Yeah. Does it munch? No, it can't remember. Yeah, yeah. Is it Edward Munch or something like that. Yeah. The screaming face.

00:43:11:22 – 00:43:39:00
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Scream. It's just called the scream. Scream. Stuff like that. How was that even. Well come on man, I mean oh is it. Yeah. Munch advert Edvard Munch munch. Yeah. We go, is it, it I think, obviously this is a question of much more intelligent people learned people would be able to have, yeah, because they know about the background, but I think there's a lot of it.

00:43:39:03 – 00:43:59:14
People say, oh, I could do that. But you didn't do it. No. And that person did. And you thought about bit and then obviously, what is art at that time? What's the mainstream? How did it move. Did it move the particular type of art forward? I don't know, man. It's it doesn't matter. Does it make you feel something when you look at it?

00:43:59:16 – 00:44:20:14
If it does and it's for you if it doesn't, then yeah. Right. Okay. That's a good point. Sure. But so there's interest in that. So I, I, I was vaguely my, my ex Mrs.. Did a open, university degree in, in classical art. Yeah. Or it might have been fine art. I can't remember what she did.

00:44:20:16 – 00:44:45:05
And naturally, she would spend a lot of time talking to me about the various bits and pieces and have. I have to read or essays and correct the pathway and not correct them, because at the time I was a an editor for a magazine, so I, I was in that mindspace of I could edit in and, and so I'd have to edit our work and she would be angry that I've edited some of the work and I've changed too much and I'm like, oh, stop asking me to do this.

00:44:45:05 – 00:45:15:17
I'm going to kill myself. Anyway. It was a part of it, where there's about, what is all and the basis of this, was there was a famous artist called Duchamp, and he, Marcel Duchamp. I'm just going to read this rather than pretending I haven't read it. Right. So on April 9th, 1917, just over 100 years ago, Marcel Duchamp achieved what was perhaps the most brilliant and absurd art event of the 20th century.

00:45:15:19 – 00:45:47:17
The story is legend. Duchamp, wanting to submit an artwork to an uninjured Society of Independent Artists salon in New York, which claimed it would accept any work of art as long as the art is paid. The application fee, presented in an upside down urinal signed and dated with the appellation mutt 1917, and it was called fountain. The SA Society Board, faced with what must have seemed like a practical joke from an anonymous artist, rejected fountain on the grounds that it was not true work of art.

00:45:47:20 – 00:46:11:11
Duchamp, who was a member of that board himself, resigned in protest. Okay. And do you know if you're aware of that urinal, do you know what it looks like? Not Google it right away. You you're right. No, no, no. Good. Yeah. So it's, just type in, fountain Duchamp du champ.

00:46:11:13 – 00:46:34:17
And have a look at that picture. Okay, let's have a look. Oh, fuck off. So he's found. He found a. Yeah. What the fuck? Fuck off. So he's just literally picked a urinal up off of a building site or somewhere. He's turned upside down and signed it, and that's it. That's all right. Okay. Right. That's the question. What is it?

00:46:34:17 – 00:46:57:15
Is it art? Should it have been rejected? Should it be allowed in? Is it is not necessarily about your skill as an artist, it's more about what you can you conceptualize and conceive and create. Or what you can blag to tell people it is, and then people actually go, you know, what I think is right? And then you think they're fucking buying it.

00:46:57:15 – 00:47:16:05
They're only fucking buying it. Well, he was he was saying, if you accept anything at all, I'm gonna I'm going to test the waters here. And, and like you say, I didn't realize this part, but he was on the board of, and they didn't allow his work, and he signed it anonymously. Wasn't he's, you know. Right.

00:47:16:05 – 00:47:50:19
Okay. But for me are like, okay, I'm just trying to write this. This is this is definition risky. If you just buy, you have your thoughts. Artists and intellectuals surface on both sides of the issue is about the toilet, which perhaps the clearest explanation of fountains importance, coming from an anonymous editorial believed to be written by an artist, Beatrice Wood, it read whether Mr. Mutt, with his own hands made the fountain on or not, has no importance.

00:47:50:24 – 00:48:12:24
He chose it. He took an ordinary article of life, placed it so that its useful, significant significance, disappeared under the new title and point of view, and created a new fort for that object. Wood, who had followed Duchamp's work, closely recognized the groundbreaking power of work. Power of the work. Very early on.

00:48:13:01 – 00:48:56:13
So that's why she believes it's art. Ballocks, mate, that is fucking. I'm not Ivan. So would you say that's less worthy of being called art than, say, an A-level student is brilliant, technical draw. Yes. So that's art what the technical draw does. But this toilet let them correct a lot. The, the so my, the probably the, the biggest, most important piece or pieces that I've seen when I went to Rome, I went to the Vatican, did the museum 16, Sistine Chapel, Michelangelo's fresco paintings.

00:48:56:15 – 00:49:32:09
They, I mean. It's is such a strength because you're you're in this, fairly sizable chapel, right? And you're you're there and it's, in front of you, like the main wall. A thing is called the Last Judgment. I can't remember now. I think that's what it is, but there's just, like, loads of different tiny, depictions of images of things that's going on of, Jesus in the Bible and the story and all of that stuff.

00:49:32:13 – 00:50:06:01
Can't quite remember it, but you're in like, there's loads of people that you're not allowed to take any photographs, you're not allowed to talk. It's like silence and you're in awe of this hundreds and hundreds of year old. And the art and the art is fucking insane. When you're there and you're looking at it, you do feel like you're having a bit of a euphoric, weird experience, like you're in the presence of God, you're in the presence of exceptionalism.

00:50:06:01 – 00:50:45:17
You're in the presence of something. I couldn't quite, put my finger on it, you know, my finger on it. And then obviously and then, you know, the iconic, fuck. What's it called? No, creation of Adam. You know, the two fingers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. Yeah. The lads. And when you're looking at it and you're there in person, you and how widely that is, you when it was done, it's like it's fucking mind blowing.

00:50:45:17 – 00:51:20:22
It really is the skill. Yeah. And then, there's also there's these rooms and Raphael, then I think there's like four rooms in the back and Raphael, his fresco paintings as well. And you can get really fucking close to this stuff and honestly go it is that to me is art like it is. It's insane. But then on the flip side of that, the modern art for me, the Banksy, well, that political statement of the statement of does it bother you?

00:51:20:22 – 00:51:51:11
The little issues, does it bother you that he doesn't paint with any skill? He's he he cut stencils. No, because he creates those stencils. Yeah. If you just in terms of like the mental illness, have you heard the story of the Banksy's go with the balloon? No. So it's a famous one where she I think he's quite well known, the one where he's got this balloon and it's a love heart and it's floating away.

00:51:51:13 – 00:52:22:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, that was by, old Street. That was right. So there was one where it was. He was. He'd put it into a frame and it hidden a shredder. Yes. In the frame. Yeah. Did you have this in the running? The, I didn't, but this is classic. So he so they put it up and it was, going to be up for sale for 1.1 million.

00:52:22:03 – 00:52:51:22
Now, during the, during the, what do you call it, like, auction. Auction. Yeah. Or the selling. The, the that the shredder kicked into gear and the artwork came back. Then it was shredded by the artwork, by the shredder. So destroying the artwork? Yeah. Do you know what happened to the price of that piece of artwork?

00:52:51:24 – 00:53:16:22
I would think went up or definitely went up. Yeah, it's probably going up. It was worth 1.1 million pound at the time. It sold in 2021 for 18.5 million. Oh, my good lord, that is fucking. So. In October 2018, immediately after the hammer fell at London auction, the canvas passed through a shredder built into brick frame, leaving only the top half intact.

00:53:16:24 – 00:53:40:07
Banksy stated the destruction was a critique of the art market's high prices, quoting Picasso, the urge to destroy is a creative urge. The frame, a large, ornate Victorian style frame, is considered an integral part of the artwork. The outcome the piece, renamed love Is in the bin, was initially feared destroyed but became more valuable ultimately selling 18.5 million pounds.

00:53:40:07 – 00:54:01:06
In 2021, Banksy released a video demonstrating how he secretly installed the shredder years prior in case it ever went to auction. I mean, right years prior in case it ever went to auction. I don't know about that. Can't be true. Come on. Yeah. How do you know it's still going to work? And how would you like it anyway?

00:54:01:11 – 00:54:30:02
I like that. I mean, call it a Bleep. So with that, you know, like the banana sellotape to the wall or the Johnny on a bed or what Banksy has done here for me, the art itself is what Banksy's done is, are obviously. But then obviously the, the the cutting of it and then you're just left with these ribbons of the paint it is fucking amazing.

00:54:30:02 – 00:54:55:23
It, it, yeah. It's for me that it's fucking. How cool is that. Very cool. So like anti-establishment and, and whatever he is or she, Yeah. For me, that is fucking. That's well, cool man. That is local. Before before we move on, I, I've just I've just looked at their run. I know of, of some research bits.

00:54:55:23 – 00:55:42:05
I've got, Italian and Greek statues often feature small penises. Yeah. Why does ancient cultures associate large genitalia with foolishness, lust and barbarian ism? While small, flaccid penises represented intellect, moderation, and self-control? Now it was controlled by the people with small previously. Amazing. Yeah. So she wanted to tell a story. Before we jump on quickly about their artwork in, my house, when I was in London, and I was, you know, this is my going to Tate Modern, Salvador Dali hanging about with you, reading books, all of that stuff.

00:55:42:07 – 00:56:11:05
When I used to come back to Milton Keynes, it was very kind of. And this is why the reason I left Milton Keynes as well. And at that time everything was the same. There was no difference between friendship groups or anything like that, and every person's house. I went to, they were like new builds. So as a new build on a new estate and everyone had been to Ikea, which you were, everyone would do.

00:56:11:11 – 00:56:33:11
But you go to every single house and everyone had the London bus, the London postbox, the London, you know, sort of gray, gray, black background. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And it was like just you didn't know whose house you were in. You could be in anyone's house. And that's not to throw shade on anyone. It was just. I just I just didn't.

00:56:33:13 – 00:56:54:08
Psychology behind that is just like the there was something going on isn't there. Like it it makes people feel comfortable. Like they want to eat. I don't know what it was about belonging to someone else. What the psychology behind buying. And I'm not saying this, it sounds like I'm being snooty. I'm not. I'm just, I'm not trying to be that way.

00:56:54:10 – 00:57:19:11
It's just like if you if you're buying a piece of work that you've seen in lots of your houses or those things on the wall, and I don't want again, I have no issue with this. If people have it in the house, it's whatever. Make sure home you have. Put whatever you want in there of course, but there live life, laugh okay, variations of that is that because that they they see something and it makes them feel comfortable and homey.

00:57:19:13 – 00:57:40:01
And so it works on that, that level. And so when they they come in and they feel homey, they feel like they've got the right type of, I don't know what it. Yeah, I, I'll see a lot of Airbnbs, a lot of Airbnbs of yeah, I feel like it's quite like, it's a bit like Instagram and it's projection of this is a happy home.

00:57:40:05 – 00:58:12:22
This is yeah, live laugh life home or, is it 1:00? Oh, we're always having a wine here like that, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that at all, but, Yeah. So I used to see all that stuff. And when I made this kind of choice that when I was older and I had my own home, that the art predominantly, which I would fill my house with would be, independent of is individual a not one of whatever it might be.

00:58:12:24 – 00:58:36:00
And it doesn't matter if they are, you know, super famous or is my mate that's done something for me and I have let's have a look. So the the all in my house actually this is like this is a we we paid to get we you know, got this commissioned. This was actually one of your brother Alex's friends and that was how was it the friend.

00:58:36:02 – 00:59:08:23
Yeah I know this blows my mind. My mum has this in her house. You have one. And I'm like, what? What is this correlation with where. Why is it so. So it's like pins in a well. That's right. So the lady is you can find on Instagram Imogen Morris art Imogen Morris. And I'll do a link. But she does loads and loads of pins as like the outline of what her art is and then connects it all with different threads.

00:59:09:00 – 00:59:31:15
I don't know how she does it. It is absolutely incredible. It's incredible. Now we have two in our house and it's the pictures of both of our children. Right. So she showed. So it was a photo that we gave to her of the girls, and then she did the outline and done the artwork and it's fucking fantastic.

00:59:31:15 – 00:59:51:21
So we've got that in our house. Also, the guy that I used to sit next to, where I used to work at Network Rail, Mike, his name is, he was our graphic designer at Network Rail, and he used to show me all the stuff he did for Network Rail, which was great, but also the other stuff that he did on and by himself.

00:59:51:21 – 01:00:16:12
And I was like, this guy is amazing. And I was like, sat next to him. And I said, like, you know, the, the album cover thought the best of blur. And he was like, no. So I showed him and he's like that pop art type of, the full portraits of the members of blur. And I said, could you create one of these that for my family and make it like an album cover?

01:00:16:14 – 01:00:32:14
And he was like, yeah, I said, I can do that. So he showed it to me. Did a bit of tinkering, and he said, because it's like a, a almost like a Polaroid image like that, the album cover and it's blank down there. Why don't I put your family's names and their date of birth and stuff like that?

01:00:32:14 – 01:01:04:24
And I was like that. That's cool. You. So we've got that, that is on our on our individual pace. Amazing. And I've also got, let's have a look here. I just want to I don't want to miss people. There's a lady called Tabitha. Mary. Now, I don't know her personally at all. And she does a lot of, like, mass produced graphics, but I just love it.

01:01:05:01 – 01:01:41:05
She does travel posters from, the design style is, like, from the 1930s, and that, World War Two kind of, feel to it. I've got what? Yeah, this is it, you know, so it fell off the wall because I made it. But that one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So the one that everyone's seen behind me. And then there's another one of, the multiplex, the point cinema as well, and that's in my front room, but we've just got lots of art that is kind of, and that's all about Wolverton, Milton Keynes.

01:01:41:05 – 01:02:13:18
So individual to who we are as people and things like that. And I love all of that stuff because it does paint a picture of if you did come into our house of who we are, what we're about, and all of that and the last one that I will say is, Instagram is put and ink pad and ink and by a lady called Emily and she did a, an amazing watercolor picture of when Tottenham won the Europa League and this postcard.

01:02:13:18 – 01:02:45:13
And she has obviously loads of different watercolors, but it's all this kind of art that is by independent artists that are amazing, that I love to buy or promote or have them in their home because that that's what I feel. The art is not banal as being stuck to a wall. So I put all of those artists in the show notes so you can go and visit, check them out, get some commissioned for yourself, whatever.

01:02:45:15 – 01:03:08:04
Now we are going to go onto something none of you know, and that is called I've Got Ebro. The topic for next week is this was sent in by patron. So thank you very much. Local dialects and stereotypes across the British Isles, from the Scots to the Cornish to the Welsh to angry Scousers, Cockneys, Geordies and Ireland as a whole.

01:03:08:09 – 01:03:32:15
We'll be chatting about your accents and your stereotypes and the people that have you have in your area. Because it's amazing, right? You go an hour from Birmingham to Manchester, then an hour across to Liverpool and then Lee. How were all these different accents and what we perceive of of a Yorkshireman or a manc or a Geordie?

01:03:32:17 – 01:04:00:21
I think it's going to be quite fun once a day, so we'll be doing that next week. If you have any stories or anything you want to add to that topic next week, send it into lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out. Now we are going to go onto something 90, you know, can I just quickly recommend Conor Harrington if anyone wants to look up some street art is fine.

01:04:00:21 – 01:04:24:13
It blows my mind. I actually prefer the street art more than the canvas stuff, but it's just incredible. Conor Harrington. I'd love to own up some of his stuff. Is he like that famous? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, really well known, I'd imagine. Yeah. Conor says boom is his Instagram, but, just Google. Yeah, I'll have a look at that.

01:04:24:15 – 01:04:46:20
He's got massive, massive murals on street on streets of, like, soldiers. Oh, like fencing. It's cool man. Anyway, have a look. Yeah. So something I know, I know, I got to write something. You know, you. I've got you, bro.

01:04:46:22 – 01:05:21:13
So, family is devout Mormon. Half normal, half bonkers, devout American. Christianity and porn and pornography was always a huge taboo and strictly forbidden. My parents would go through me and my brother's phones nightly. Parental locks only could have devices while in the living room and all of that stuff. But to flash point about kids finding a way, nothing my mum did was stopping me at 14 years old.

01:05:21:15 – 01:05:51:23
My personal favorite was using the ESPN app, then accessing my Twitter account through a secret email which just followed porn pages. But anyway, both my older and younger brothers went on two year long church missions. Right before you go through the interviews and classes and have to swear off all non holiness in brackets, especially porn and all things like that.

01:05:52:00 – 01:06:15:18
My older brother used to take me to school and one day I was waiting in the car for him and his phone connected to the car. Bluetooth, the volume was left super loud, so I got blasted by five seconds of intense moaning. I turned it off and disconnected his phone and he came out a minute later and sheepishly asked if his phone had connected to the car.

01:06:15:20 – 01:06:44:01
I turned into Christian Bale and convincingly told him no. Nothing came out. Several years later. My family road trip to drop my little brother off 18 on his first mission, saying good bye for two years since he had a new phone. But you can't take one with you. My little brother gave his phone to my elder brother. For some reason I was in charge of doing the iCloud switch.

01:06:44:03 – 01:07:14:22
So while my entire family is in the car, I open my little brother's internet. His private tabs are full of just hardcore porn, and he's also got tons of photos and videos saved on his phone. I spent 20 minutes making sure I deleted everything without telling a soul. I would have happily taken both of these to my grave, but the internet lad's episode pushed me to share a laugh.

01:07:14:24 – 01:07:48:21
If I told anyone in that moment, even my family, my brothers both would have been suspended from serving a mission which comes with community shame and is very uncommon. But it pisses me off because these stories are just funny and I wish I could joke about them with my brothers. I know they have shame and feel like they are evil inside, but they would do better with just listening to some lads and on getting some stuff off their chest and realizing that every teenage boy would do just about anything to see a nice pair of tits on their screen.

01:07:48:23 – 01:08:16:05
And that is truly something only I know. How amazing, amazing that is. Fucking brilliant. Not better. That one that came in, that one came in through the, where you can submit your favorite link Linktree anywhere, right? Just get in contact. We have a form that you can fill out. No email, no location, no nothing. There is no trace of you of who sent in.

01:08:16:05 – 01:08:36:08
So I have no idea who fucking sent that in. And whoever did send that in, that is absolutely terrific. And I'd love to find out more about your moment life and going on two years fucking Christianity missions. That is insane. What do you see? Still with the Mormons? I don't know. Whoever it is. Email us. You know the email Latin on product gmail.com.

01:08:36:13 – 01:08:59:10
I'd love to fucking chat with you. Yeah, that's more mental stuff about being a mormon. That'd be great. That'd be cool. And anyone who's listening to this, we are running low on something only you know. So if you just like this person, it use that anonymous submission form or you can email in and we will read it. And we've never ever, ever mentioned anyone's name when we've done this.

01:08:59:12 – 01:09:29:11
Right. So the pod for next week is local dialects across Britain, Scouser, Cockney, Welsh, whatever you name it. We'll be talking about it and the stereotypes of those people. And you can you know where to eat us patrons. You're going to get this on a fucking Thursday, you lucky, lucky bastards. Everyone else, you hear this now on a Monday, if you want to join Patreon Patreon.com slash Latin on Pod, have a good week everyone.

01:09:29:11 – 01:09:30:23
Good bye bye.