#159 | Living Abroad | Expat or Just On Holiday?

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Ricky: Go on.

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Flav: Sorry, just finishing my ah okay Nero so cheese and caramelised toasty.

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Ricky: What do you have?

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Flav: It's a bit sweet actually.

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Ricky: Oh.

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Flav: Yeah, it was like the…

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Ricky: Oh, bit sweet.

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Flav: I think they had some sort of chutney or something, but it was a bit sweet for me.

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Ricky: Oh.

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Ricky: You're not a sweetie boy, are you?

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Flav: Not really. Not when you're expecting savoury.

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Ricky: Nah. Yeah.

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Flav: Yeah, and youre getting sweet. It's outrageous really. um So you've been telling me all about fucking moaning about fishing all morning, right?

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Ricky: m

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Flav: I want to catch a barb or chap or troch or something, right?

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Ricky: yeah yeah

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Flav: But I want to see you catch a carp, mirror carp, Big Ben, whatever he's called.

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Ricky: Right. Yeah. Oh, God, I loved one. Yeah.

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Flav: like ah The massive carp. I don't understand why you're spending time catching piddly little fish that you can see in a canal anytime you want.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: When you should be pulling out monsters. We've got a mutual friend, Billy.

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Ricky: yeah

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Flav: Billy the fisherman.

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Ricky: Bill Grimm, yeah.

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Flav: Bill Grimm. You probably might be listening to this.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: he Does he piss about with barbell and roach?

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Ricky: Nah, he catches monster carp.

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Flav: Right. Are you just unable to do that? Or unwilling? what is it what's What's your hesitancy?

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Ricky: He's got the gear and I don't.

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Flav: What do you mean? What do you need?

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Ricky: So you need specialist carp gear.

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Flav: Something.

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Ricky: And I have some, but it's expensive. And he spends his time…

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Flav: Is it?

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Ricky: camping down the lake Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. He's just there all the time. He's living at the lake.

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Flav: No, he has. i think he I think he works as well. I don't think he is

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Ricky: Oh, yeah, yeah, he does work. He's probably done more poos at a lake than I've had hot dinners.

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Flav: I just…

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Flav: is there Is there toilets on demand?

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Ricky: ah Yeah, it's called a field. What…

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Flav: so All fishermen are just shitting in the field.

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Ricky: what what What we do is there's a special technique that we do.

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Flav: Is there an etiquette involved?

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Ricky: yeah, yeah, there is. You should take your poo home with you or throw it in a bin or something.

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Flav: Oh, my

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Ricky: and

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Flav: God. I'm still digesting half a sandwich.

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Ricky: But what you're supposed to do, well, not what you're supposed to do, but this is what people do They go into their bivvy, their tent. They have a bucket, an empty bucket, and they put a carrier bag inside the bucket.

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Ricky: Then you sit on the bucket and do a poo into the carrier bag. Clean yourself up. Take the carrier bag out, tie it up, and then leave it away from your swim, ready for when you go home, take the poo with you.

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Ricky: Wheeze are, ah you know, wheeze are fine, but the poos are…

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Flav: Oh yeah, weasel fine.

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Flav: As a man who's launched to carry a carrier bag full poo from his back garden, I can't imagine you're taking… That

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Ricky: Hey, that's slanderous. I've not launched to carry a bag of poo.

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Flav: was the story I heard.

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Ricky: I did a poo in a pink…

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Flav: The story ah a story I heard is that you did a poo and flung it in your neighbour's garden.

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Ricky: No.

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Flav: You didn't want to deal with it.

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Ricky: it No, no, no. It was in a bucket, a pink castle bucket I did a poo in because no…

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Flav: Why? What is wrong with you?

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Ricky: yeah

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Flav: You're an adult. You're fucking adult. You're successful. you have two children.

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Ricky: if

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Flav: in what world are you waking up pooing into a bucket?

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Ricky: i did what I didn't wake up and just go outside and thought, I'm going to poo in a bucket.

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Flav: Why?

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Flav: ah

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Ricky: I got home and and I'd forgotten my key. No one was in. And then I remembered while I was waiting that i had a bit of weed left outside. So thought I'll have a little blast on that past the time. And it went straight through me. And then I was like, fuck, I'm caught short. I don't know what to do.

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Ricky: So there was my daughter's old sandbox in the back garden and there was a bucket. So thought if I have a turnout in the bucket, then I've saved myself.

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Flav: Was the door locked, did you say?

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Ricky: Yeah, door's locked. Yeah. Otherwise would have gone in pooed.

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Flav: Right, all right. Of course.

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Ricky: And then, um, and then panicked. My, my, my missus and my kids going come bursting through the door and I'm going to be standing there with a pink castle bucket and um, you know, a little dirt snake in that, in the castle bucket. So I just did what any man would do and just launched it as far as I could.

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Flav: What?

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Ricky: I can't understand why. ah what

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Flav: Why don't you hide… like look you're look You're creating a problem, a big, big problem for someone else by doing that.

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Ricky: yeah ah Yeah, i bet but but it's not my problem, though, is it?

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Flav: What do you mean? Yeah. That is terrible.

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Ricky: it' that What have you what i can't understand is, well, I can understand, but why have you never pooed outside?

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Flav: um but Because I'm a grown-up.

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Ricky: ye you you were You live in the countryside. I've i've been walking around where you are.

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Flav: Yeah…

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Ricky: There's no one there. You could be walking Frank and think, you know what, I'll have a poo now.

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Flav: I could do that, but as a phone fully functioning adult who has a toilet at home, there was absolutely no reason why I'd need to go outside. that's all. Like you, don't know, you've problems.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do it if I was with people.

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Flav: But even that, i'd I'd think less of you, ri if we were out walking and you were going into that wooded area just to have a poo. You did it with yous with your wife.

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Ricky: like Right, okay. You're getting me on technicalities.

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Flav: And people saw you.

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Ricky: I mean, there's been loads of times where I've been thinking I'm going in woods and

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Flav: So so why so what in these lakes, so is this is this the wild, if you're in a wild lake, like if you find a lake that, the chub exists, sorry, the carp exists in, it has to be a so stocked lake or do they exist in the wild that you can catch wild carp?

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Flav: cop

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Ricky: Carp, yeah, that both. So there are secret lakes about, secret like ah estate lakes and ponds and bigger lakes where you're not allowed to fish.

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Ricky: The fish haven't been stopped. They're boating lakes. They're this lake or whatever. But carp do, but people walk around, they see them.

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Flav: But you know there's big carp in there.

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Flav: And they're gutted because they can't fish it.

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Ricky: And then they, well, it's called it's called poaching.

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Flav: They do fish it.

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Ricky: You go down there at nighttime and you get them.

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Flav: That's illegal.

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Ricky: There is.

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Flav: But you're not getting them in. You're not hate he's taking them out having a look at them.

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Ricky: No, no. Having a look, having a photo.

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Flav: But the thing is they don't like that.

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Ricky: i

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Flav: They don't like being taken out the water just to have a look at for some fat geezer with a beer belly holding them up. No top on. They don't like that.

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Ricky: don't know. But like, if you were like, you've got to think about it from the opposite perspective. Sometimes I'm a land guy, right? Sometimes I might go in the sea just to have a little gander. you think the fish are in the lake?

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Ricky: And they're like, what is out there? Let me just have a look. And then when they come up, they have look and they're like, right, yeah, this land.

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Flav: So so ah in these stocks lakes, don't know if you've seen them, there's a northern geezer.

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Ricky: Good.

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Flav: um And he's created this lake. It's called the Next Gen Lake. And he takes kids down there teach them how to fish.

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Ricky: Oh, yeah, I've heard it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: His granddad just passed away. he's he had a big He had a really weird accent. then I can't place it in the UK.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: and But he's even his granddad went viral for a couple of years. Anyway, massive geezer. Anyway, he's created this lake.

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Ricky: No.

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Flav: It looks shit, to be honest. The lake looks like he's dug it himself and poured loads of water in.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: But he's got carp and they live in there. if He stocked it himself. And he just takes kids down there, maybe 10 at a time, sorts them out of gear, fixes their rods and whatnot. And he does competition. So if catches the first carp or the biggest carp a day, he'll get 500 quid or something.

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Ricky: Oh my God. that That is my dream.

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Flav: It just doesn't… that The lake doesn't look very nice.

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Ricky: No, you get a lot of man-made lakes where they have just done, it's just a massive puddle basically and they've just filled it up.

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Flav: Right, I…

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Flav: Yeah, I wouldn't rate that.

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Ricky: I want reeds. I want overgrown trees. I want lily pads.

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Flav: Trees, yeah. So in those that are designed for to be to be fished, surely they just put a port-a-loo in there.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah, they do. So there's there's a fishery that I go to quite often. It's got five lakes and they've got portaloos. But you go to the portaloos, you open it up and you and you would be like you would look at it and be like, I'll wait until I get home.

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Flav: Ugh.

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Ricky: I'd rather do it in my car in the car park than go in there. that's That's how bad they are.

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Flav: Yeah, can understand that. It's like at the festival.

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Ricky: Yeah. And there's wasps in there and shit like that. You're trying to have a fucking turnout and there's wasps buzzing around you. You don't want that, mate.

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Flav: No, it's like when you go to festival and there's a long drop and you're like, I've got to look down there, but i don't want to

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Ricky: You really don't want that.

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Ricky: It is. It's like, don't look at the elephant in the room. Don't look at the elephant and then at your periphery.

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Flav: to. And there's always one massive turd, like one sitting at the top of the hill.

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Ricky: yeah Have a little, yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah, and there's always one that's like fluorescent orange. You think, what have you been eating? have you been doing?

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Flav: um well ah There was one other thing.

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Flav: Just… oh No, no but but was it worth discussing? I had my car picked up You know, never more nerf-wracking. Nerf-wracking.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Nerf-wracking.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Than… you You have to give the car back to the bank, which is what I had to do. I would like to have kept my car and just kept it and bought it and just driven it until it died.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: But the bank said, no, we don't do that. Or so it's certainly not with the car you've got. We have to pick it up and we'll take it back off you, which is had get a new car.

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Ricky: What? Why?

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Flav: And

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Ricky: What? what Like normally not everyone else is like, yeah, you can bite off us or you can,

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Flav: extend the, just free finance what you owe.

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Ricky: extend it or upgrade to another one or whatever. They were just like, no, we're not having

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Flav: Yeah, they just said it's not an option. You just have to give the car back.

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Ricky: it. hope when they were, like, coming over and they were coming to collect it, you were having a go at them.

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Flav: Well, no, the geezer comes, he's an inspector. He's called an inspector. So he comes and inspects your car.

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Ricky: Yeah. Oh, God.

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Flav: And he looks at everything, dents, any little dents.

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Ricky: Oh, God. i ah

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Flav: He found dents I didn't even know existed in the car.

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: And I couldn't deny it I was like, no, you did. Like, he showed me the dent. Oh, yeah, that is a dent, actually. i Fuck knows how that happened.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: um And then he tots up all of the damage. Grand. Grand worth of dents and little bits and pieces on the car that need it.

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Ricky: So what what does that mean? You've got to pay a grand to get it fixed?

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Flav: got to pay them a grand for them to fix it.

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Ricky: And they're taking the car?

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Flav: Well, it's their car. I've just been… I've… morgueg ah They bought… the Effectively, the bank buys the car off the dealership.

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Ricky: Hmm.

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Flav: Then i then i repay that loan and get to keep the car for four years.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: And then once it's done, you'll have a certain amount left on the loan, because it's never, you don't pay the full cost of the loan in the 48 months, because itd be the monthly repayments would be like a grand a month or something.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: The car was brand new when I got it, it was like worth about 40 grand. So the the expensive payments anyway, so you have a lump sum, you pay as much as you can upfront, and then you pay as um as much as you can on the back end.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: But they so when they sell the car, that comes off what's left of the loan. Does that make sense?

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Ricky: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: So if there's 10 grand left on a loan the car goes for 14, I get four grand.

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Ricky: Yeah. Right. Okay.

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Flav: Or maybe they get the four grand. I can't remember. Maybe it's they get the four grand, actually. you know like The previous one I did, because it was a second-hand car, I got the excess amount of money. But in this sense, probably they would. Anyway, the point is, Rick, yes, they they wanted it back. They wouldn't let me have it.

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Ricky: Have they taken it now?

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Flav: um Yeah, thank Christ it's gone, because it was like a white millstone around my neck. And the other other thing mate is that they said if there's any warning lights that come on the screen we don't take the car.

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Flav: And so I rang up SEAT and I said um I've got a warning light my car, can you um just make it go away?

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: that Yeah, you bring it in, we charge you £150 an hour in diagnostics and then whatever the cost is to replace that or fix the damage. So I look online and it's the the fault was like, um you know, gear selector level 40, but safe to drive.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: It's really common with these cars. In fact, it's almost like a manufacturing issue. And the cost of repair is like 900 quid plus the diagnostic fee.

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Ricky: Oh, for fuck's sake.

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Flav: And it comes on like one in 10 times. And I'm like, I'm not paying, i'm I'm not playing over a grand to fix this fucking thing and it's gone.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: So I'm going play engine light roulette.

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Ricky: Right, okay. so so

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Flav: or the inspector. so i didn't react So I didn't have it fixed. I thought, fuck that, I'm not getting it fixed.

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Ricky: So they've picked up and it's not on, but when they pull off or if they go to the service station, stop and then get back in the car, it could come on.

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Flav: someage Some stage, some stage definitely going to come back on.

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Ricky: Right. Right.

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Flav: At that point, I'm going to go, not for me, mate.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, good. No, good for you I woke up this morning and I could hear out of the the car park at the back, there was lots of noise and banging and people chatting.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: i was like, what the fuck's going on here? And I looked at my next door neighbor, they their car about a month ago, gearbox went fucked.

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Ricky: And they've had this little red rental car that they've been given by the garage. And yesterday, I saw that they got their car back. Lovely stuff. Went out this morning, had to do my bins.

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Ricky: Caught whiff of conversation. Car's fucked again. The mechanics were there trying to sort it out. As I was leaving, they were towing it back to the garage.

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Flav: That was your life, Rick.

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Ricky: Yeah, it was.

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Flav: um How's the new little motor going?

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Ricky: Oh, sh he is a Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Dream. She's dream. He, he. He.

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Ricky: Yeah, I've got the kids to name him.

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Flav: What is it called?

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Ricky: Frederick.

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Ricky: Frederick the Fiesta.

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Flav: I thought you usually name inanimate objects female names.

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Ricky: oh Yeah, normally, but this is… Yeah, we wanted to go with a yeah Frederick.

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Flav: It's up to them.

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Ricky: So, like, when ah I've done a fair few long drives…

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: And as soon as I pull up, a little kiss on the steering wheel, tap Frederick say, well done, mate. Well done. So, you know, the the little car that could.

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Ricky: Fair play to him.

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Flav: Mm. don't know.

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Ricky: Right, let's get into it.

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Ricky: Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous. This is episode 159. I'm Ricky, he's Flav. Two best mates tackling one big topic every week.

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Flav: No.

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Ricky: We'll solve your anonymous dilemmas, reveal your deepest confessions in something only you know, and probably overshare a few stories of our own.

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Flav: don know No, no, no. Not… Not enough. Not enough. Not enough.

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Ricky: So grab a brew, settle in, and welcome to Lads Anonymous.

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Flav: You've just… You've just chucked this in… You fucking chucked that… You chucked the first one to chat GBT and just got them rewrite you a new one.

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Ricky: yeah that's what we That's what we wanted, wasn't it? Or do we want a completely new one?

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Flav: Was it? I just didn't sound different enough. I hated it.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: I hated it.

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Ricky: yeah I thought that might be the… the Well, I've got about 10 and they're all exactly the same as that, so…

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Flav: You got another

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Ricky: You're going on holiday, aren't

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Flav: Fair enough.

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Ricky: you? guys are you you going and hold dan yeah

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Flav: We're holiday. we driving i so I don't think driving to Kelmwood for two days is a holiday. I think it's a short trip.

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Ricky: Oh, if you talk about it in it's ah it's a holiday, not just you you're driving for a few hours, you might change your mindset on that

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Flav: Yeah, I'm a little bit bit bitter because i was we were supposed to be going on holiday for eight days in France, which is holiday.

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Ricky: it. Yeah, that is a lovely holiday.

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Flav: But circumstances arrived, which meant that we couldn't do it. um So this is the alternative. But it's cool, it's fine, it's nice, lots of people don't go get to go away. We're going down to Porftown, which is, um we've never been to Porftown.

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Ricky: No, haven't.

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Flav: It's stunning, Ricky.

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Ricky: Oh yes.

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Flav: it's it's it's It's, you can Google it, but there's, it's a, it's on, it's it's like an alcove cut into the side of a cliff face.

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Ricky: Oh.

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Flav: And the sea, and it's a big beach about half a mile wide. And the tide comes really far in and then it goes really out and it's just sand everywhere. And then there's like rock pools and there's ah there's a stream that goes out into the water, like a freshwater stream that comes down the hills and runs into the sea.

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Ricky: Nice.

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Flav: um And then in the drive in the drive up to it, it's basically where all the tin mills were. It's before these old tin mills were sort of destroyed by Thatcher in the in sort of 80s.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: They were shutting down anywhere. It was a collapsing business.

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Ricky: No, blame Blame her.

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Flav: Tin was… No, I mean… You could blame her definitely for lots of people losing their jobs, but they were lost their jobs eventually anyway.

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Ricky: Okay.

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Flav: that She just sort of packaged it all up and made a load of hatred. Anyway… um but But the remnants of these mills are still there, and they're built a very long time ago, and they're almost like…

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Flav: Do you know the Everton badge? They're like…

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Ricky: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:40.47
Flav: With a… It's a circular building and there's often a square building next to it.

00:17:43.26
Ricky: Yeah.

00:17:45.91
Flav: And there's like a triangle top.

00:17:49.66
Ricky: Coned. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:50.55
Flav: Yeah, coned, exactly coned.

00:17:51.32
Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

00:17:52.07
Flav: Yeah, yeah. um And there was just like a derelict, these derelict old mills as you drive for about a mile, as you drive through this countryside down into this Port Town Beach.

00:18:03.00
Ricky: Can you go in there and have a little knockabout in there?

00:18:05.33
Flav: Someone made a house out of one. It looks incredible. it's like It's like my dream house. I'll take a picture of you.

00:18:09.88
Ricky: My, yeah, my my dream.

00:18:10.06
Flav: It's my nad dream.

00:18:13.24
Ricky: so I've got a couple of dreams, right? Home-wise. Like I mentioned, I'd love to have a bit of running water. ah ah Pav keeps eating, but what while he's doing it, he's looking at me.

00:18:28.30
Ricky: he's He's giving me some funny faces while he's doing it. I enjoy it.

00:18:31.13
Flav: sorry.

00:18:31.70
Ricky: Keep doing it. When… sorry, yeah, bit of running water, lake or something right next to my house. Like I want to go into the back garden and have a little pond, an estate lake, whatever. But the other, ah want a house, a converted house, a barn, windmill, old church, whatever it might be.

00:18:54.26
Ricky: i would love something like that. And that is the dream to get into one of those types of houses. So whoever's done that, fair play to them.

00:19:03.58
Flav: Um, where I live or where I used to live rather, there was a gentleman, I bet I told you about this. Uh, he had a big house.

00:19:09.59
Ricky: the The gentleman, or…

00:19:11.92
Flav: don't know, not the gentleman, another man. And, um, he, he's basically garden at the bottom, the end of the garden, someone had built like three or four different steps going down.

00:19:25.53
Ricky: Yeah.

00:19:25.94
Flav: And at the bottom those steps is, um, a river.

00:19:30.95
Ricky: Oh, God.

00:19:31.22
Flav: what I say, a river, more like a a deep, fast-moving stream.

00:19:34.81
Ricky: Yeah.

00:19:36.15
Flav: And he catches fish of there.

00:19:36.28
Ricky: And the Vic… The thing is in England, it rains a lot so that, you know, that will be fishable.

00:19:38.34
Flav: He

00:19:43.57
Ricky: You'll be able to do.

00:19:44.66
Flav: catches fish it out of it all the time.

00:19:46.61
Ricky: God.

00:19:47.52
Flav: think there's times of the year maybe when he can't, but…

00:19:47.81
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:19:51.06
Flav: Yeah, no, he'll have them.

00:19:51.29
Ricky: um

00:19:51.98
Flav: And because there's so many fish, he'll bring them in. It's like nothing to him. image like you could He doesn't even have to cheat. yeah but just He just puts a worm on a hook and he'll get a fish.

00:20:02.52
Ricky: yeah

00:20:04.22
Flav: But as he pulls the fish out, because there's so many of them, he just gets a hammer and smashes a fish on the head.

00:20:08.70
Ricky: ah He does not.

00:20:09.15
Flav: Then there's just like a pile of roach, rainbow, rainbow loaches. Just a mass of murder. Because they're so easy. He i wants to make it more difficult.

00:20:18.20
Ricky: ah That's illegal, by the way.

00:20:20.65
Flav: He's smashing fish's head in the…

00:20:24.63
Ricky: So he's going to jail. The gentleman is going to jail.

00:20:25.86
Flav: He don't care. On his property, he does what he wants.

00:20:30.16
Ricky: That's not how it works. When you were describing that, all I kept thinking is, Frank's going to love this. Frank's going to love that open beach. He's going to love the natural water just bowling about.

00:20:40.63
Flav: Yeah, he does. He likes going down the beach and putting his feet in the water. Yeah.

00:20:44.66
Ricky: God. Lucky boy. ah Before we get into the pod, bit of housekeeping.

00:20:46.86
Flav: Yeah.

00:20:50.49
Ricky: Someone just replied for last week's pod. The latest pod was great, by the way. It's made me reach out to two of my best old mates I haven't seen for ages. We've got a couple of… um messages from people listening to the pod about ah mates and drifting apart and stuff like that last week and how they've reconnected with their old mates.

00:21:07.34
Flav: Mm-hmm.

00:21:10.20
Ricky: ah Lovely stuff. Brilliant. So um I'm glad that ah that has given you a nudge to rekindle some of your relationship with your mates. And also someone has sent in, it's not quite a don't listen, but they sent it in anyway.

00:21:27.26
Ricky: And you're going to hear that right now.

00:21:57.65
Flav: I actually like that.

00:21:59.10
Ricky: He saw, he but he was the original guy that sent me the reel of someone that looked like you playing the saxophone.

00:22:09.94
Flav: Oh, because going say, is that me? it's me Is that me playing this axe?

00:22:12.02
Ricky: And yeah, he did include a video with this, but obviously we can't show the video. That's him playing the saxophone. he's ah He's a jazz musician, pianist, composer.

00:22:21.66
Flav: What? The one that looks like me.

00:22:25.20
Ricky: No, the guy that sent this in.

00:22:25.94
Flav: Oh, that was really good.

00:22:28.54
Ricky: Yeah, it was.

00:22:29.98
Flav: that um Yeah, more of that.

00:22:31.83
Ricky: Yeah, yeah. So we've had…

00:22:33.88
Flav: Maybe we could do do something for the Fighting Cop one. I don't A little change, I don't know.

00:22:37.08
Ricky: Oh, wow.

00:22:38.90
Flav: um Listen, did anyone… Did you see… Because I suppose you sent me that. This gentleman sent it to to you.

00:22:44.38
Ricky: Yeah.

00:22:44.73
Flav: to you The fly's back again.

00:22:47.29
Ricky: Yeah, the fly's back again.

00:22:47.83
Flav: I've seen it.

00:22:48.45
Ricky: and I was wondering when you'd say that.

00:22:48.66
Flav: yeah why we saying flat Why have you got so many flies in your house?

00:22:51.58
Ricky: It's the same fly over and over. He just won't leave me. Fuck off I don't know.

00:22:57.16
Flav: I don't know. um it i what I looked at it and I was like, is that me? Did I?

00:23:05.94
Ricky: m

00:23:07.03
Flav: And I sent it to my mum and went, I haven't been said much, but I've been playing in sax and what do you think? And she was like, that is unbelievable. Well done. ah That's how much this bloke looked like. me My own mum didn't know it wasn't me.

00:23:19.45
Flav: Ridiculous.

00:23:20.99
Ricky: Well, I mean, they say everyone has a t twin in the world. Maybe he's your…

00:23:24.04
Flav: How about 400 twins?

00:23:25.27
Ricky: ah Yeah, you do.

00:23:26.10
Flav: That one was special, though.

00:23:27.58
Ricky: Yeah, it was.

00:23:28.02
Flav: That one was like, oh, my God. Yeah,

00:23:29.99
Ricky: That was top 10. Did you show it to the wife? Yeah.

00:23:33.59
Flav: she laughed.

00:23:34.23
Ricky: Yeah, good. Oh, good.

00:23:35.22
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:36.79
Ricky: um We are going to be talking about living abroad and the expat community.

00:23:47.09
Flav: right.

00:23:47.99
Ricky: And no, no, no, exactly.

00:23:47.94
Flav: I've never lived abroad or in the X-Men interview.

00:23:51.36
Ricky: That's fine.

00:23:52.06
Flav: All right.

00:23:52.70
Ricky: if you If you had a one-way ticket right now, just what country takes your fancy if you were to live abroad?

00:24:05.50
Flav: I've always said the Netherlands. Always said that. I like it. I like the people. They're really blunt. It's like they don't like anybody, but they're actually sound.

00:24:16.70
Ricky: Well, how do you get on with that European um

00:24:24.33
Ricky: directness, that abruptness, that abrasiveness, that just straight in, like, oh, do I look, how how do I look in this?

00:24:25.98
Flav: Yeah.

00:24:29.93
Ricky: Oh, Rick, you look fat. Where someone else, I'd be like, oh, God, oh, God, that hurts.

00:24:32.09
Flav: Yeah.

00:24:34.41
Flav: Oh, not my tits. Don't look at my tits. Don't look at my tits.

00:24:36.50
Ricky: and

00:24:41.07
Flav: Well, you know what it is. if you If you know what they're like. I've been there so many times. i must have been there maybe five or six, maybe seven times. I've spent a lot prolonged amount of time there as well.

00:24:52.12
Flav: and bits different bits of Netherlands, but they all they are all like that, and they are all massive and good looking.

00:24:57.71
Ricky: Oh, Austin.

00:24:57.69
Flav: um But, yeah, no, I just, I like them. They're not, it's not, it's just the way the way they are culturally. that says That's what you have to assimilate into. So, yeah, it's cool.

00:25:08.78
Ricky: Oh, yeah.

00:25:08.82
Flav: But I just like, it's a beautiful, beautiful place. looks doesn't There is nowhere one out nowhere else that really looks like the various cities in in the Netherlands. Yeah.

00:25:20.92
Flav: and perhaps their liberal their liberal nature to things like you know of mushrooms and

00:25:26.81
Ricky: Sex.

00:25:28.41
Flav: ah I'm not really bothered about that I'm more loads of mushrooms on mushrooms

00:25:31.13
Ricky: You just want to go into the field and just have sex if you want.

00:25:37.24
Flav: ah Yeah, so always i've always I think that's a great place, but I fancy, um and but what puts most pops puts me off most, like Spain or Greece, is just the heat.

00:25:46.71
Ricky: Wow, okay.

00:25:49.50
Flav: just It's just too much heat.

00:25:50.39
Ricky: See, this… ah I, when I was, you know, you try and second guess people. And I was like, first of all, my mind went Spain, you know, the kind of like, not Benidorm, but to go into expat community where you can kind of get by on English language and all other stuff like that.

00:26:11.61
Ricky: But then was like, no, the the heat will get him and he'll he'll have enough within three weeks. So he won't go there. So I had no idea where you would like, where your mind would actually go to.

00:26:20.60
Flav: but you wouldn't have guessed You wouldn't have guessed. You wouldn't have…

00:26:23.94
Ricky: Netherlands, no. Yeah,

00:26:26.49
Flav: I'm sure we've had this conversation before. All

00:26:28.39
Ricky: maybe. Too many conversations.

00:26:31.42
Flav: right.

00:26:31.70
Ricky: ah out of like My left field was New Zealand. i know it's far, but, you know, it's very green, very um chilled there.

00:26:42.72
Flav: Lots of sharks, eh?

00:26:44.05
Ricky: There's sharks there. You know, just go to your local beach and just look at sharks all day.

00:26:48.14
Flav: Hmm.

00:26:48.98
Ricky: So I thought that might be a place for you. Mine would, I have, you know, because I had the family a villa out in Spain from my grandparents who no longer with us, but they, you know, gave the the the villa to the family.

00:27:07.45
Flav: Yeah.

00:27:08.73
Ricky: And dad, I know you'll be listening to this. He sold the villa in May. where Where am I going to go on holiday now?

00:27:15.51
Flav: What was you doing to help keep it? Was you helping pay for the bills and that stuff?

00:27:18.78
Ricky: i was I was my dad's mental health.

00:27:18.75
Flav: Because you got you went on holiday every year, so…

00:27:23.77
Flav: of Confidant.

00:27:25.34
Ricky: Yeah, I was helping him with his mental health, right?

00:27:25.49
Flav: All right,

00:27:28.34
Ricky: so

00:27:28.97
Flav: fair

00:27:29.53
Ricky: So I was contributing in that way. but um So i you know I feel like I have an affinity with Spain. I've been going to Spain. not My grandparents, ah were retired they retired in the early 80s, so when I was born.

00:27:47.19
Ricky: So I have been going out to Spain every single summer and I kind of feel like that would be the place for me. the the The sun, the way of life, little siesta, eating late, waking up late, you know, all of that stuff. It's just that is such my and my family's way of life.

00:28:10.33
Ricky: Why at the moment does it feel like everyone is trying to move abroad? it Do you think there's double edge to this? Like, obviously you can go political and tax and whatever it else.

00:28:26.23
Ricky: But then other people like, you can work anywhere in the world now. ye Why not be on my laptop for my nine to five job and be in Thailand?

00:28:37.94
Flav: Yeah, I've definitely thought about going to Mexico and doing that. That was my plan originally before I met my wife, was to spend about six months in Mexico.

00:28:47.46
Ricky: I would have loved that so much.

00:28:49.53
Flav: But, um you know, you meet the love of your life and you can't go to Mexico and they ruin everything.

00:28:54.01
Ricky: And they ruin it.

00:28:55.86
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:55.96
Ricky: ah

00:28:56.14
Flav: so um

00:29:02.17
Flav: Yeah. i what I mean, it's good to to to live in different places and experience new things. And I think it's a natural thing to want to. you know, be to to to find a new horizon to look at.

00:29:15.93
Flav: um And I think think there's ah there is a political aspect to it as well, because people getting frustrated by the what what is happening in Britain or become frustrated or get so caught up in the news and whatnot that that it sort of dominates their life. Like for my dad is retired. and He never has to worry about money again.

00:29:35.45
Flav: um And he yeah all of the things that he moans and complains about have absolutely zero bearing on his life. Apart from when he watches the news and gets irritated by them.

00:29:47.96
Ricky: Yeah.

00:29:48.77
Flav: thats a So if that's if I was my dad, and it's impossible for him to do this, but it would be like, I'm getting wound up by just the politics of this country.

00:30:02.17
Flav: let me go to an another country where I'll be made to realize that the issues in that country don't affect me. Because if you went to Spain, he wouldn't be aware of what's happening on the streets or what politicians are saying because he legitimately can't understand the language of the news.

00:30:15.64
Flav: So he would go to another part of the we in them and won't be impacted by all this shit. Honestly, the amount of politics he absorbs is unreal. Unbelievable.

00:30:26.91
Flav: Unbelievable.

00:30:27.74
Ricky: i um My old man came round on yesterday and when got into his car, I was listening to the radio. The radio was dialed into politics and stuff like that. ah Very news heavy.

00:30:41.21
Ricky: so Put some tunes on, bruv. Don't listen to this shit. Why is it but when you got when you get old and you've got nothing to do?

00:30:44.85
Flav: yeah

00:30:47.54
Ricky: that's whats but Just spend your life looking at the news. Just venting.

00:30:52.66
Flav: i don't know i don't i don't know and and sometimes i hear my dad in me like i'm complaining about something and i'm like oh no oh no so i have to sort of check myself from doing it but um

00:30:57.14
Ricky: Yeah.

00:31:07.15
Flav: I don't know, man. You've got nothing to do, have you? You're retired. What else are you going to do? You get into a pattern of reading this shit. It gives you some sort of, you know, feeling, whether that be negative or positive, that you get addicted to. um Yeah, so I guess, I mean, what else do you do? dad does a lot of DIY stuff.

00:31:26.20
Flav: So if he runs out of DIY stuff, he starts getting mental about politics. Hmm.

00:31:32.54
Ricky: I am one of the things that I've noticed obviously with the explosion of social media and people's accounts There's a lot of travel people about.

00:31:44.91
Ricky: They're like, fuck this, I'm just getting out of here. Not because of any political thing, but it's just content to feed their channel.

00:31:51.86
Flav: Yeah.

00:31:52.06
Ricky: And they go traveling to Thailand, to fucking Colombia, wherever it might be. And they often will have the 15 pounds of their money and they'll be like, this is what I'm going to do today.

00:32:05.82
Flav: Yeah.

00:32:07.38
Ricky: And they go and have like… four courses throughout the day. They'll have loads of drinks. They'll have this, that, and the other. And they've still got change at the end of the day in Thailand and places like that. And you just think, why am I here?

00:32:26.01
Ricky: And I am trying to, you know, earn a living. And by the end of my pay and paying all my bills, I've got nothing left. So the appeal to move abroad for a better kind of is at a much lower cost of living. I completely see the appeal of it.

00:32:45.24
Ricky: Like,

00:32:45.92
Flav: Yeah, course. I mean, is it something you'd ever do?

00:32:49.28
Ricky: see, this is the thing. i I would love to. ah really would. I'd love to do that thing where I have a holiday home in Spain or southern France, wherever it might be, and for six months be there, just pottering about got a pool, go for walks, lovely weather.

00:33:11.44
Ricky: The weather is a massive contributing factor for me.

00:33:14.68
Flav: Yeah.

00:33:15.74
Ricky: And just a slower pace of life, different way of living, different culture, all of that. My missus wouldn't have it.

00:33:25.78
Flav: No.

00:33:26.55
Ricky: She will not be within 30 minutes radius of our children. of a horrible fear i've I've got a horrible feeling that if what you know if my child, children, decide to go to university and one of them goes to the University of Durham, I'll have to live in Newcastle for four years.

00:33:32.54
Flav: what Wouldn't they come with you?

00:33:48.25
Flav: Really?

00:33:48.34
Ricky: that yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll be like, are you fucking having a laugh? She'll be like, no, that's where we're going. I'll be like, right, that's where I'm going.

00:33:56.95
Flav: what if goes One goes to Durham and the next one follows them and goes to… It doesn't go to Durham, goes to Falmouth and Cornwall.

00:34:03.38
Ricky: We'll have to man mark. i like One of us is going to Falmouth. One of us is going to Newcastle.

00:34:08.32
Flav: It is a serious conversation, though, because, you know, you're…

00:34:15.03
Flav: That it happens, mate. It's weird. you're You're watching it… You watch your family change in front of your eyes and there's nothing you can do about it.

00:34:22.35
Ricky: Hmm.

00:34:24.73
Flav: Like, you can be loving and you can be… You do all the things for your children, but watching as all children have to, and and you see it in nature as much as you do see it in human beings, is that it's healthy to have a separation between your children and and the parents because they have to survive.

00:34:40.73
Ricky: yeah

00:34:42.88
Flav: They have to learn they have to do things on their own. And you realize at some stage, Rick, this is what happened is that comes to an age where they stop listening to you. They pretend. They're like, yes, I understand.

00:34:54.52
Flav: I understand. I understand.

00:34:55.42
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:56.79
Flav: and all they hear is what their friends say. So you can do everything you can up until the age of like 13, 14, and that's the best she you've done, basically.

00:35:07.42
Flav: And then all their influences come from outside, and you see a shift. It's not that it's not loving. It's not that don't want to be there.

00:35:12.34
Ricky: Yeah.

00:35:14.01
Flav: It's not like you don't have great moments together. They just, their attention is outwards.

00:35:18.84
Ricky: Yeah.

00:35:18.87
Flav: it just there's like a There's a shift towards the outside, which is really important, but not easy as a parent.

00:35:26.04
Ricky: It's fucking really hard to deal with. It is.

00:35:28.31
Flav: Yeah.

00:35:29.78
Ricky: I'm kind of going through, ah like, you would call it the teething stage at the moment, where my child is…

00:35:40.50
Ricky: more wanting to listen to friends, be influenced by friends. one you know You know, when you're friends, I remember when I was a kid and my mum would be like, oh we're going to, you know, Uncle Terry's house today.

00:35:45.26
Flav: Close.

00:35:53.81
Ricky: And I'd be like, oh, for fuck's sake, man.

00:35:55.80
Flav: Yeah.

00:35:56.06
Ricky: i wanna to come um I want to go and play with my mates. They're all going out.

00:35:57.98
Flav: Close.

00:35:59.83
Ricky: And it's like, well, are you doing? Well, we're going to to the field play World Cup doubles. Rick, you've been to the field for the last 17 days to play World Cup doubles. One day isn't good. No, mum, but i might miss out. Like, just let me go and play World Cup doubles.

00:36:09.94
Flav: Yeah, yeah.

00:36:11.89
Ricky: I see Uncle Terry another time, right?

00:36:14.56
Flav: I'm not sorry.

00:36:15.58
Ricky: and ah And then I'd be like really annoyed and I'd be sitting in the car, huffing, arms crossed, like fucking hell, you're taking me away for three hours, missing out on World Cup doubles or whatever it might be. So I'm going through that stage at the moment.

00:36:31.77
Ricky: So it's really, um it's tough. And I can imagine that with older children, that when you're having to have these conversations,

00:36:44.06
Ricky: they actually have answers coming back as to why they're not going to listen to you or do that thing or or do that thing of, yeah, yeah, yeah, course, course. But as soon as they get out of the door, it's all bets are off.

00:36:57.78
Flav: Well, that also, and they genuinely believe they know more.

00:37:00.97
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:01.43
Flav: They genuinely, like, without question, no hesitation to think, I know what i'm doing. You don't know a thing about this.

00:37:06.90
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:09.24
Flav: When the reality is you know everything about it, you do know what you're doing, and they just won't listen. Like, even as my as you get older, everybody realize that you have more realization.

00:37:20.41
Flav: Even at 44, I'm starting to look and go, My dad was right about that. My dad, because I always just assumed I knew more than my dad. I still know more than him.

00:37:29.30
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:29.91
Flav: But there was there was there was intellect and experience around things that i hadn't experienced that he would talk to talk about.

00:37:37.50
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:38.63
Flav: And it just made, just now I see, oh, fuck it, of course. and I didn't really know anything there. Same as my mum. It's a part growing up. So I know we've sidetracked from the actual discussion, but…

00:37:49.78
Flav: um Yeah, it's going to probably be tough for Don.

00:37:54.30
Ricky: I mean, like you're very, yeah I mean, you've mentioned your family a lot here, even like, you know, your um immediate family and dads that dad, brothers and all that. lot you're You're like incredibly close with all your family.

00:38:09.56
Ricky: Could you move abroad and be away from your family?

00:38:14.04
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:38:18.07
Flav: Yeah.

00:38:18.64
Ricky: Wasn't even second. is that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, course I can.

00:38:20.66
Flav: ah I don't think I could ah you basically get you get stuck you get chained to situations don't you so my dad now lives next door to me not not next door but lives near to me compared to when he lived in London I'm not sure I could disappear for six months it's not because um and I don't know

00:38:33.53
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:37.37
Ricky: Right.

00:38:42.81
Flav: they I don't know, they just have each other, right? So they don't have like a friendship group that they've met here. So ah kind of as they get older, that's going become more and more of an anchor.

00:38:48.88
Ricky: What?

00:38:52.25
Ricky: Yeah. What about like your brothers and stuff like that? So if you were living in, I don't know, let's say Turkey.

00:39:00.15
Flav: Yeah.

00:39:00.34
Ricky: ah So it's a, you know, it's a schlep. It's not like a 45 minute plane.

00:39:03.93
Flav: Yeah, it's a four-hour plane drainer, yeah.

00:39:05.11
Ricky: Yeah. um And all with the kind of, oh, we're going to see this band. We're going out here, we're doing this and you'll be disconnected from all that. will you Would you still be like…

00:39:15.67
Flav: Nah, not just six months, Rick. If you're taking like five years, then obviously you'll start to make miss them. But yeah, it's only six months. i How much are you going miss out on?

00:39:26.06
Flav: you'd be You miss out on a couple of gigs or you'll be living in Turkey for six months, experiencing all this new shit.

00:39:26.30
Ricky: Yeah, true.

00:39:30.81
Flav: Yeah, no, it's fine.

00:39:31.51
Ricky: Yeah, it's true.

00:39:32.97
Flav: Yeah.

00:39:33.24
Ricky: at Saying that, tomorrow um i'm off to me old dears.

00:39:38.53
Flav: Yeah.

00:39:39.95
Ricky: Mum's…

00:39:40.31
Flav: Tell us little bit.

00:39:41.72
Ricky: Yeah, I will do.

00:39:46.07
Ricky: My mum is hosting a party for my sister, going away party, but she's moving Cyprus for three years.

00:39:50.29
Flav: Oh, because she's… Yeah.

00:39:54.10
Flav: Yeah.

00:39:54.94
Ricky: I know. So, I mean, that and i've we're on we're friends on Duolingo, me and my sister. but she

00:40:01.19
Flav: Oh, yeah.

00:40:01.38
Ricky: Turn and learn Greek.

00:40:04.67
Flav: She's trying to learn Greek.

00:40:05.66
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:06.74
Flav: Do people actually learn a language from Duolingo?

00:40:09.71
Ricky: No. No, they don't.

00:40:10.78
Flav: Or it's just gamifying?

00:40:11.09
Ricky: It is game of fun, but i there is no question that I have learned a hell of a lot more words and trying to kind of

00:40:12.65
Flav: Yeah.

00:40:22.97
Ricky: If I was in Spain, I think, you know, if you were say a sentence and there's 20 words, I could put eight words together and someone would know what I'm trying to talk about.

00:40:30.94
Flav: Through doing Duolingo.

00:40:31.96
Ricky: Yes.

00:40:32.47
Flav: ah that's good.

00:40:33.24
Ricky: Yeah. So if I was stuck and I needed to go somewhere or I'm looking for something or someone would be able to work out what I'm trying to say.

00:40:37.46
Flav: You'll be able to work it out.

00:40:43.29
Ricky: so i think, yeah.

00:40:43.40
Flav: Yeah.

00:40:44.37
Ricky: So it it you will never be fluent in Duolingo.

00:40:49.75
Flav: No, but it it can get you…

00:40:49.94
Ricky: but

00:40:51.48
Flav: think you'd only get fluent or really good.

00:40:51.77
Ricky: Yeah, it can get you enough.

00:40:54.37
Flav: you have to live in the country and be around people constantly and then you'll pick stuff up, wouldn't you?

00:40:59.42
Ricky: Like, if you went to if you moved abroad, would you would you be one of the people that would make an effort of learning a new language?

00:41:06.51
Flav: I'd like to, yeah. um i I mean, I was to go to the Netherlands, there'd be no issue because they're all speaking English.

00:41:13.72
Ricky: ah Okay. Okay.

00:41:14.42
Flav: ah You wouldn't have to learn Dutch to get by at all.

00:41:18.71
Ricky: I couldn't tell you one word of Dutch. Not i sit not up please, not thank you, not anything.

00:41:21.96
Flav: No, it hasn't sort of, it hasn't transcended that country, has it? like It's not like ah Spanish, for example.

00:41:32.49
Ricky: No.

00:41:33.85
Flav: but Spanish and English are the most spoken. Is it Spanish or English? Of all the languages…

00:41:38.68
Ricky: i oh oh It always um fucks me up because I always think, oh, it's English, but then it's like Mandarin, isn't it?

00:41:40.12
Flav: Sorry, go on.

00:41:47.77
Flav: Oh, because of the amount of what?

00:41:49.17
Ricky: Yeah. Chines.

00:41:53.21
Flav: You can't say Chines.

00:41:54.63
Ricky: Yeah, China.

00:41:57.42
Flav: Chines. The amount of Chines.

00:41:58.01
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:41:59.61
Flav: chinese Not Chinese people.

00:42:01.24
Ricky: Oh, Chinese people, yeah.

00:42:02.97
Flav: All right, I don't know. although you're right.

00:42:08.38
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:08.69
Flav: I mean, so you're right to bring it up, but no, you're incorrect.

00:42:12.16
Ricky: Oh, so what is it English?

00:42:12.41
Flav: got Yeah, English, 1.49 billion speakers. Mandarin is one point, but they're all in China. Aren't they?

00:42:21.69
Ricky: Wow. What, i don't know, are they?

00:42:24.31
Flav: It's not like Mandarin has transcended. Well, there's Mandarin and then there's Hindi next, 611 million, and then Spanish after that.

00:42:33.75
Ricky: What, Hindi's over Spain?

00:42:35.05
Flav: Hindi third. Yeah.

00:42:37.46
Ricky: Fucking hell.

00:42:38.17
Flav: But they're all the reason why no one talks about them is because China is restricted to the country that they live in. in So most people speaking Hindi going to be in India, right?

00:42:46.10
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:46.34
Flav: Indian is a ginormous country. So is so it's China.

00:42:48.09
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:49.64
Flav: So if you remove the native languages that aren't typically spoken elsewhere, it it would be English and Spanish.

00:42:57.17
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:58.23
Flav: yeah

00:42:58.97
Ricky: Well, yeah. I mean, ah that there is…

00:43:01.05
Flav: like Spanish would be more useful to you if you learned it across the globe than learning Mandarin even though more people speak Mandarin.

00:43:05.24
Ricky: Yes.

00:43:09.40
Ricky: Correct.

00:43:10.18
Flav: Yeah.

00:43:10.28
Ricky: I would like to learn Mandarin. I'm never going to do it, but I would like to be able to…

00:43:17.85
Flav: Why?

00:43:17.99
Ricky: follow quite a few people. where they are, yeah, they're kind of white Westerners and they're speaking to people that are, you know, their native language is Mandarin.

00:43:20.28
Flav: oh oh I know, yeah.

00:43:29.33
Flav: It's on Omegle or something.

00:43:30.58
Ricky: yeah that's it. And then they'll start speaking their native language and they're really shocked.

00:43:35.64
Flav: Yeah, I have seen this.

00:43:36.25
Ricky: That's mainly why want to do

00:43:37.50
Flav: Yeah, but once you've seen three or four those videos, it's like the same video, so you stop watching it.

00:43:41.75
Ricky: Yeah, some of it.

00:43:41.78
Flav: So you spend all this time learning Mandarin when people get bored of the gimmick.

00:43:43.86
Ricky: yeah

00:43:46.68
Flav: I think I could learn Spanish if if I had did lessons and spent some time around some rounds some of them.

00:43:50.71
Ricky: There is no chance you could learn Spanish.

00:43:52.22
Flav: ah could I could learn Spanish.

00:43:53.40
Ricky: Really? yeah

00:43:54.26
Flav: I reckon so.

00:43:55.58
Ricky: i there There is part of me that…

00:43:56.35
Flav: Me gusta uno sube.

00:44:01.33
Ricky: There's part of me that kind of feels like I need to step it up, as in get a a tutor or something like that.

00:44:07.38
Flav: ah get lessons.

00:44:08.47
Ricky: Yeah, for sure. um Why do expats, when they go abroad anywhere, why do they always create another Britain?

00:44:20.50
Flav: ah Because despite leaving, they culturally aren't removed and they're unwilling to assimilate into the local culture or certainly don't want to completely. so why Why do…

00:44:33.85
Flav: why is Why is my friend from school, I don't see anymore, Shyam, why had he been living in the country, growing up the country 20 years and his mum couldn't speak a word of English?

00:44:39.19
Ricky: Yeah.

00:44:46.62
Flav: why do if you go to Whitechapel is there more I would say where are we saying South Asian that's like Pakistan, Bangladesh, India and um why are there so many there like you'll literally walk through Whitechapel the other day and was like I could literally be in another country like I was the only white person it felt like within a mile

00:44:50.14
Ricky: Yeah.

00:44:57.53
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. India, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:04.44
Ricky: Yeah.

00:45:09.05
Ricky: Yeah.

00:45:16.57
Ricky: I went there many years ago. i went to a hospital near there when i broke my elbow ah living in London.

00:45:22.42
Flav: Yeah.

00:45:24.82
Flav: Yeah.

00:45:25.18
Ricky: And when I was there then, it was exactly the same.

00:45:30.23
Flav: Right. So that isn't me making making some sort of political statement. I'm just saying you assimilate.

00:45:35.19
Ricky: Yeah.

00:45:36.18
Flav: No, so you don't assimilate. You gravitate towards… um your own culture, which you completely understand in a foreign country. But it is a barrier to becoming a more cohesive nation. like You should.

00:45:54.26
Flav: It's right if you're moving to a country, ah understand and adopt their cultures, customs and language at bare minimum.

00:45:56.15
Ricky: Yeah.

00:46:01.30
Ricky: Yeah.

00:46:01.35
Flav: That's not to say you forget your own. just say that the become incorporated into what the society is and why you've arrived there and what what it offers you. The least you can do is learn the language or understand the customs.

00:46:16.08
Flav: Like I was saying, if I was going to Spain, I'm not moving to Benidorm because Benidorm isn't Spain.

00:46:17.53
Ricky: Yeah.

00:46:23.45
Ricky: yeah

00:46:23.39
Flav: Benidorm is Britain warm.

00:46:27.38
Ricky: ah ah that's the thing that's what i don't like people move abroad for the weather for the culture for a different way of life and stuff but like with benedorm and it's this could be that there's loads of different places

00:46:44.31
Ricky: you go there and it's like only fools and horses on the tv uh there are like fry-ups everywhere roast dinners on a sunday

00:46:48.54
Flav: yeah yeah yeah

00:46:54.43
Ricky: And it's like, I don't understand. I know that's where, how, you know, that that's how we like things, right?

00:47:00.50
Flav: yeah if

00:47:01.02
Ricky: But then it's going into another country and doing that. But it's quite like you were saying about Whitechapel or anywhere else where that's kind of what you're used to and what you do.

00:47:14.72
Ricky: But I do feel like there should be an element of that assimilating and learning languages and cultures and stuff.

00:47:21.78
Flav: Yeah, of course there should be. Like if you were going to Spain, you'd learn how to speak Spanish, right? You wouldn't just hang around other people just because they can speak English.

00:47:28.62
Ricky: No.

00:47:30.12
Flav: I'm not saying you shouldn't be, it's good, oh, from England, where you're let's go for some beers and all that sort of stuff.

00:47:33.40
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:33.88
Flav: That's great. But yeah, you want to… You have to learn. I've got mates who live in Biarritz and um they they come from the West Country. They're my wife's friends, really.

00:47:47.90
Flav: And they got jobs for, one of them got job for Quicksilver, you know, the skiing and then surfing brand.

00:47:53.20
Ricky: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:54.01
Flav: ah And Biritz is really good for surf because it faces the Atlantic Ocean. So they get big waves and there's surfing competitions there and stuff. There's a lot surfers around the world.

00:48:00.79
Ricky: Lovely stuff.

00:48:02.17
Flav: Yeah, but it is French.

00:48:04.79
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:04.92
Flav: even Despite it being a tourist hotspot, you… Apart from a few of the really touristy, like burger bars and there's a pub, like Irish pub, as you would expect and that sort thing. Everywhere else, they speak French. They don't speak English.

00:48:19.16
Flav: Like, they willfully don't speak English. They will not go out of their way to help you try and understand.

00:48:26.65
Ricky: Right.

00:48:27.29
Flav: They have no interest. that's This is my experience. We went to a couple of little lovely, the great thing mates walking around and there's um wine merchants, but they're local wine merchants.

00:48:37.74
Flav: And you go in there and the bottles don't have labels on them and they've just got prices and it's cheap.

00:48:37.98
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:41.82
Flav: It's like two euros a bottle of red wine. And it's…

00:48:43.56
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:45.08
Flav: and it' it's been it's been like 10 years since I've been last, so might have it's obviously gonna have gone up, but back then, and you're like you go in there and you don't know what it is, and the geezers, you know, you go, can you tell me about any the wines?

00:48:50.26
Ricky: yeah

00:48:57.87
Flav: And they'll answer in French. And you're like, I don't understand what that said. Do you speak English? And then they'll answer in French.

00:49:03.32
Ricky: yeah

00:49:03.90
Flav: Or maybe just couldn't speak English and answered, you could only speak French. And we're saying I don't speak, but I'm sure I've heard Inglés. um Yeah, and but you know you sort of thought you went out there and going, I don't know what I bought, but i know if I want to know, i need so need to learn.

00:49:18.39
Ricky: Do you think like, and especially with the French, do you think they're willfully just like, you're in France, mate, you fucking speak French? Because they are quite, you know, they hate the English and it is a bit like, you've at least got to do something.

00:49:26.90
Flav: I've…

00:49:32.15
Flav: Yeah.

00:49:34.55
Ricky: Do something for me, bruv.

00:49:35.86
Flav: Yeah, they just see, they just like, they don't have to. That's what my feeling. I've got… Out everywhere been in the, but all the places I've been, the French are the rudest clip by country of all.

00:49:47.22
Ricky: Yeah.

00:49:48.36
Flav: I'm not saying there's a difference from being the bluntness of Dutch people. There is an indignation that comes with um being English in France.

00:49:57.37
Ricky: Yeah.

00:50:03.10
Ricky: For sure. Yeah, they hate us.

00:50:04.70
Flav: Yeah. hello after After the World Cup, everyone we were all hugging each other, weren't they? All the players getting on.

00:50:09.46
Ricky: ah What was that about?

00:50:11.41
Flav: Don't know, not the Argies though, fuck them.

00:50:16.66
Flav: know The world hates them.

00:50:17.72
Ricky: they they oh yeah. I know. That's mad, isn't it?

00:50:21.05
Flav: Do you hate them?

00:50:21.16
Ricky: Everyone hates them. Yeah, do. Yeah.

00:50:23.16
Flav: but Mostly because of that game.

00:50:25.50
Ricky: Yeah, mostly because of that game.

00:50:27.37
Flav: Yeah.

00:50:27.86
Ricky: But previously to that game, um the tactics employed against Egypt as well. I just don't like that kind of sportsmanship. I'm a traditional guy, you know, play the game.

00:50:40.36
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:50:42.30
Ricky: There is going to be some dark arts degree, pokery, whatever. But there's there's using some of it to your advantage, but then there's just playing to that completely. I just think, what's the fucking point, man?

00:50:55.50
Ricky: You're never going to beat teams like that. They're just fucking arseholes.

00:50:58.71
Flav: Yeah.

00:51:00.62
Ricky: we've we've We've spoken about places we live What about the places you wouldn't live? And you know what I'm talking about. Spideers, snuckers, sharks.

00:51:14.78
Flav: but oh ah Yeah, New South Wales and in Australia.

00:51:19.00
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, i could, yeah.

00:51:22.49
Flav: Too far away as well.

00:51:24.16
Ricky: but New Zealand, Australia, it's fucking, it's insane how far it is. They should have built something already where we can get there quicker.

00:51:34.70
Ricky: A road.

00:51:37.11
Flav: Plane goes faster.

00:51:37.72
Ricky: Yeah. Maglev train straight across the sea. Yeah.

00:51:42.87
Flav: Yeah, no, I wouldn't.

00:51:43.07
Ricky: Yeah.

00:51:44.15
Flav: ah other there People i I know have been there and and they don't never if you talk about the dangerous animals or anything. anything So maybe it's sort of few and far between. know Ross said when he was in Vietnam, they stayed in this hut in the middle of a, like a top of a, like in a jungle, basically.

00:51:59.80
Ricky: yeah

00:52:01.18
Flav: And there were holes at the top of the the hut. And you at night you could hear scratching. on the wood, on the wooden walls and stuff like that. And he woke up the next day like to look at what it was and the person who ran the camp said, oh, it's like for spiders and insects and like mantis and things like that to be able to get in and out of the hut.

00:52:24.15
Flav: Because if we don't put those holes in, then they always find a way in, but they can't get out.

00:52:25.25
Ricky: fuck's sake

00:52:30.78
Ricky: oh god see like i just ah i know what you said about australia and i know there's what a lot of australians say that

00:52:32.27
Flav: Hmm.

00:52:47.33
Ricky: you're in a kind of busy place. They're not really there. They're hiding.

00:52:50.42
Flav: Yeah, they are there.

00:52:50.73
Ricky: They don't want to, they don't want to have that interaction with humans. But if you, if you're going to a place, right. And one of the bits of advice they say, before you put your shoes on in the morning to turn them upside down and give them a bang to just check that there's nothing in there.

00:53:04.22
Ricky: You, you got problems already to start with.

00:53:07.67
Flav: Yeah, in your shoe or you sit and think a snake's going be in the toilet and stuff like

00:53:08.30
Ricky: Like,

00:53:11.74
Ricky: Yeah. Loads of that stuff happens in there like Thailand and stuff like Going for a fucking pup and a snake pops out.

00:53:18.46
Flav: that. No.

00:53:18.86
Ricky: Nah, I can't. I can't be dealing with any of that. And scorpions, jellyfish, like jellyfish in the sea, sharks and all that. like I think I'm quite happy with where I am.

00:53:30.72
Ricky: And i we've been talking, obviously, about living abroad, what it'd be like. Like, I always picture, you know, you're at a little shack.

00:53:42.95
Ricky: You're on the beach. You're having your morning coffee. Just looking out at the sea. And it's it's those kind of things where you're like, i mean, it would be amazing to wake up every morning and do that.

00:53:55.45
Ricky: It would be amazing.

00:53:55.80
Flav: i whence ah one went I once went to Portugal for, I went for a festival, but one day I woke up really early and went for a walk. um And I found this tiny little coffee shop.

00:54:08.42
Flav: Like it was tiny and there was a little old lady in there. And I sat down and i ordered a double espresso. And I sat there and she started talking to me in Portuguese. And I like, don't understand what you're saying.

00:54:21.08
Flav: And she not only didn't stop, she carried on for like five minutes just looking at me in the eye and just talking in Portuguese. And like, what the? She must know, I can't understand her. anyway there was this beautiful moment where the sun was sort of it wasn't hot it was just in in the low low sky it was around 20 degrees so it was getting there but i was just sitting there with this coffee and the silence all i could hear were like the crickets in the um or the like cadres is it was it where the you can hear them going e in spain all the time a good pneumatic drill in every tree

00:54:45.27
Ricky: Oh, yeah.

00:54:48.15
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:54:51.93
Ricky: yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:54:56.54
Flav: um And… um But it was there was something magical about that. And that was completely different. Like, you wouldn't get this feeling in in England.

00:55:07.53
Flav: You'd only get it in a European country or a very warm country. um I don't know if that has anything to do with what you said, but…

00:55:15.80
Ricky: No, no, no. it some It's those things that make me want to live abroad. But is it just a holiday?

00:55:27.61
Ricky: You know, your nostalgia, your romanticizing about that?

00:55:33.34
Flav: Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I mean, when it's different to where you go, like whenever, if ever I would did like a week in Spain, when coming back, I would be feel a bit melancholic because I didn't want the story to be over or the seat the holiday to be over.

00:55:44.22
Ricky: Oh, yeah.

00:55:47.32
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:55:48.86
Flav: But if you if I spent a week in Amsterdam, I'm like, I'm ready to go. So maybe I couldn't leave there. Well,

00:55:55.16
Ricky: yeah. You know how bluesy I get when I get back from Spain. Yeah.

00:55:58.04
Flav: yeah. Well, even like, even now you don't have to go back to an office job.

00:56:02.78
Ricky: Yeah, pretty much.

00:56:03.83
Flav: You still get the Blues?

00:56:04.02
Ricky: It's not as bad. and yeah Yeah, I do get the blues because I've been with my family and i've been we're but ah we've been in each other's pockets for, you know, two weeks or whatever, having a really good time and just living the life that we love of waking up late, eating late, going to bed.

00:56:23.00
Ricky: Everything is at our pace, not worried about weather. And it's just… It's just a way of life that I absolutely adore. So when I come back and you know you've got to start doing work again, it's just like, oh, fucking hell, this is bollocks.

00:56:39.67
Ricky: um Before we go, we have – I just want to say as well, we we actually have a voice note from a gentleman, expat in South Africa.

00:56:50.06
Flav: See, fliffy, flicky.

00:56:51.10
Ricky: we ah and for Unfortunately, you don't hear any of that, which is, yeah, it's disappointing.

00:56:52.90
Flav: Puerhidtsegniks.

00:56:56.42
Flav: Ah, okay, he's got just a London accent.

00:56:58.46
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:59.70
Flav: No.

00:57:00.15
Ricky: We have had an insane amount of emails to today. And I'll read a couple out, but let let's just hear this voice note first.

00:57:06.35
Flav: Okay.

00:59:12.46
Flav: What great and interesting voice note that was.

00:59:14.71
Ricky: Yeah. ah South Africa, the weather winds get smashed.

00:59:19.70
Flav: Yeah. Yeah. and But also, i don't know, just like cheap and I don't know.

00:59:27.96
Ricky: He sounds content.

00:59:28.40
Flav: There's something in there. Yeah, sounded like they're pretty happy to me.

00:59:30.26
Ricky: Yeah. South Africa has always been a place that scares the living fuck out of me.

00:59:31.00
Flav: So.

00:59:34.75
Ricky: Yeah,

00:59:36.80
Flav: What is it because of the lawlessness?

00:59:38.94
Ricky: yeah yeah, yeah, for sure. Like.

00:59:40.34
Flav: You give me my, you I give you, I take your baby.

00:59:40.72
Ricky: Yeah.

00:59:42.46
Flav: i put your baby in a microwave. Is that a case of the accent? I'm sure.

00:59:45.91
Ricky: ah yeah it good

00:59:46.44
Flav: I put your baby in the microwave. Then you give me money. Do you remember that?

00:59:49.06
Ricky: What? No, what's that?

00:59:51.16
Flav: When, um, Louis Farouk went and visited Cape Town or Johannesburg or somewhere.

00:59:58.01
Ricky: Yeah.

00:59:59.86
Flav: Um, and there was a geezer, like how how he extorts Westerners.

01:00:03.58
Ricky: Oh my God.

01:00:03.61
Flav: They go there and he goes, I'll take your baby. I'll put but your baby in the microwave and you give me your money.

01:00:08.79
Ricky: See, I don't want my baby in a microwave.

01:00:11.23
Flav: I'm not sure I do either. I don't have a baby.

01:00:12.22
Ricky: No.

01:00:12.75
Flav: The kids won't fit now, I'm probably all right. but um But I think it was like the finding the most extreme versions in any city, you'd you'd find that.

01:00:20.92
Ricky: Yeah. I… don't know where it was, mil Milton Keynes, but… We have, we know quite a lot of South Africans, friends of my, my missus, friends of mine, and a lot of them have moved to England start a new life.

01:00:43.33
Ricky: They love their country. Absolutely love it. Like that, like the gentleman was saying how beautiful it is and everything is cheap and that. But the kind of like robberies, ah the police bribery and things like that, it it sounds really on top, like something that I just scares the shit out me.

01:01:03.06
Flav: I think it's like the idea yeah but you know like it's like Americans think that everyone's getting stabbed in London it's not true is it

01:01:09.34
Ricky: Right. Yeah. Yeah.

01:01:10.23
Flav: So you just sort of, yeah, you just think in the day-to-day life, none of these things are actually a ah factor probably, mostly.

01:01:10.64
Ricky: That's a fair point.

01:01:17.24
Ricky: Just going to the corner shop, just getting stabbed. Everyone's getting stabbed.

01:01:20.57
Flav: ah

01:01:21.68
Ricky: You can't move for knives.

01:01:21.66
Flav: um Stop stopping me. Yeah.

01:01:23.96
Ricky: um couple of other emails I just wanted to read out. Hi Ricky and Flav. Since you'll be talking about expats and Brits living abroad this week, my pal and I thought we would share our story of living in Spain. We met in Seville, both living there as expats, wanting to immerse ourselves in the Spanish culture, learn the language and enjoy the weather.

01:01:46.94
Ricky: We met through a mutual friend who said, you're like my friend Tom. He's a Spurs fan too. We're both called Tom. Tom one thought, sure, let's see if he's a real Spurs fan. Turns out Tom two bloody was.

01:02:01.59
Ricky: And the two Toms quickly developed a bromance meeting up every week in my flat to watch the football whilst tanning ciggies and boshing beers in true English style. But at the same time, we're both fully fluent in Spanish. So we'd go out and hang with our Spanish friends as the two Toms from England.

01:02:19.86
Ricky: So we had the best of both worlds, living amongst the Spanish, eating their food, immersing ourselves in their culture, and sometimes kissing their women. All whilst having that little slice of home to turn to whenever we needed it.

01:02:33.24
Ricky: We both moved on from Seville now, but we are still brothers and the best of pals.

01:02:33.26
Flav: Class.

01:02:38.58
Ricky: Even if we're not in the same city, we were very lucky to find each other in the South of Spain. And it's very rare to find someone who shares so much with you. We're both TSC listeners and now lads and on this listeners.

01:02:51.67
Ricky: So in a way you guys were there the whole time too. That's probably creepy, isn't it? It is. The crossbow is loaded, Rick. Come over for a cup of tea.

01:03:01.98
Ricky: Just kidding. Of course, big love to you boys from the two Toms.

01:03:06.63
Flav: Legends, that's quality.

01:03:07.16
Ricky: I mean, Seville as well. Like, you know, it's not that, in my mind, it's always Benidorm. It's always like the real kind of,

01:03:16.14
Flav: Yeah, I mean, the best one, the one with San Sebastian, the north of Spain, night that that is pretty touristy, but it's also really, is you know, full of Spanish.

01:03:19.48
Ricky: yes.

01:03:26.04
Flav: And it's just their culture everywhere.

01:03:27.74
Ricky: Yeah. And that, so no, go on, go on.

01:03:28.52
Flav: always wondered why… always wondered why Like the two Toms were saying that they sort of split up and they they would moved to different cities and whatnot.

01:03:37.84
Ricky: Mm.

01:03:38.46
Flav: Like, why does that happen? Unless you get like, a I guess life gets in the way, but I was thinking like, there's traveling documentaries or things going I've spent four weeks with these lads. going to miss them. I miss them so much, but i have to go up this place.

01:03:51.49
Flav: You're like, well, what why do you have to? what

01:03:53.66
Ricky: Stay, just don't go

01:03:54.78
Flav: Just don't, just stay.

01:03:56.02
Ricky: Stay with the other Tom.

01:03:57.06
Flav: Chill out. Yeah, just getting smashed up every day.

01:03:59.35
Ricky: Yeah.

01:04:00.32
Flav: I bet it's woman. I bet a woman's in the way.

01:04:01.98
Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

01:04:01.98
Flav: That's what it is. One of the Toms got pitched. Keep us updated, Toms.

01:04:07.70
Ricky: Yeah. um I was going to read this one up, but this is fucking long. there's that I mean, there is there's there's loads that's coming. By the way, right, everyone that has sent their emails in,

01:04:19.83
Ricky: to talk about being an expat, living abroad. I will read them out on the, like anything that anyone ever sends in, it never goes to waste. Nothing goes to waste on this pod and the emails and DMs. I will read them out on the Patreon podcast, Quickie of Ricky.

01:04:35.73
Ricky: I need to rename that because it's no longer a quickie. It's ah near on an hour.

01:04:38.36
Flav: What? Just call it a Ricky.

01:04:41.11
Ricky: Yeah, just Ricky. So that's on Patreon. It comes out every Tuesday and it's a near on hour of me regaling your stories and talking about it. You can join Patreon at patreon.com slash ladsanonpod. So all the people with your expat stories this Tuesday, you'll be able to hear yours and me talking about them.

01:05:02.68
Ricky: There you go Right. I am going to move across to, we have, And another thing that's been sent in, that's called public etiquette. And something only you know is called knicker stocker glory.

01:05:18.65
Ricky: Okay.

01:05:18.84
Flav: nice yeah

01:05:19.42
Ricky: The topic for next week is famous drug and crime lords, mainly Pablo Escobar, El Chapo, Rizilda Blanco, Al Capone. We'll be talking about their rise to the top.

01:05:31.88
Flav: Pol Pot.

01:05:33.59
Ricky: is it is Is he one as well? You love Pol Pot.

01:05:36.38
Flav: No, he's more like a…

01:05:36.79
Ricky: We should do an episode, don't we?

01:05:37.42
Flav: He's more of a like a general.

01:05:42.58
Ricky: Yeah, like an overlord. Is that what they're called?

01:05:44.47
Flav: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:45.10
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a bad boy. Talking about the international itre ah operations, the money and the madness, but also the work they did for their communities, like building hospitals, schools, giving thousands of people work, and understanding why they're so celebrated today.

01:06:02.58
Ricky: also want to mention that a topic within the next month is going to be the book 1984 and other dystopian novels, right?

01:06:13.11
Flav: No, not… moment

01:06:13.98
Ricky: So you have one month. It is the summer. We're all going on holiday. We're all, you know, clicking down the into third gear, although we don't like to admit it. It's the summer. We're going to be enjoying ourselves. Go and read 1984. I implore you to read it.

01:06:29.94
Ricky: It is a fantastic book, and we're going to be talking about that. we I got… one of the funniest emails we've ever received about 1984 because we've spoken about a lot.

01:06:41.88
Ricky: So, and I'll be reading that out and that's what's inspired me to, um, to pick this topic. So go and read it. If you have anything that you want to send to us, send it into ladsanonpod at gmail.com and we'll read it out. Now we are going to be going into another thing.

01:07:21.94
Ricky: I love that bit. Public etiquette. I've been noticing in recent years that etiquette in public has gone down the drain. In particular, what grinds my gears the most right now is people playing media out loud from their phones and devices on transport and in public places.

01:07:37.69
Flav: Yeah.

01:07:40.44
Flav: Yeah.

01:07:41.24
Ricky: Since when has this been a sociably acceptable thing? The last thing people could should have to listen to and witness is full grown men in their 40s and 50s watching K-pop clips, TikToks and playing anime out loud on a train full of people going to work.

01:08:00.18
Ricky: And another thing, what happened to using headphones? I thought that was supposed to be how you look cool with your Beats headphones or your AirPods. Instead, now you have people of all ages quite comfortably subjecting everyone else to the garbage on their phones. Oh, and another thing, read a book and be quiet.

01:08:20.98
Ricky: Unless you have some good chat and banter to get involved with, get your head down. Yeah.

01:08:27.06
Flav: I think it's a fine example of whether or not you're a cunt.

01:08:30.10
Ricky: ah

01:08:31.92
Flav: Like, if you don't, it's like these people, you know, they're dickheads. And you're like, they think they're dickheads?

01:08:37.30
Ricky: yeah

01:08:38.10
Flav: They realize they're dickheads or not. They just, you're you're a cock. If you're on public transport and you're playing music out of your speakers, you are, but in the most definitive way, an absolute cunt.

01:08:45.21
Ricky: Yeah.

01:08:52.76
Ricky: Also, straight up.

01:08:54.33
Flav: Yeah, there's no there was absolutely no other reason for it. There's nothing anyone could ever tell me that would make me understand why someone does that. Nothing, ever.

01:09:05.56
Flav: Like, i was I was on the train and there was this wanker next to me having a conversation, a FaceTime conversation. speaking and i could hear both sides like you shouldn't even be on the phone on a fucking train that's not the correct etiquette all right if you have to have a phone call remove yourself from the carriage go to the central reservation speak to whoever you want to speak to in there and then come back to your seat so the whole your shit doesn't pile pollute the whole fucking carriageway the fucking absolute cunts

01:09:18.93
Ricky: yeah no no no yeah yeah

01:09:39.74
Ricky: yeah i agree i've i've been trapped like i've been to when going to tottenham hour and a half there and a half back forgot my headphones Did start playing Oasis out loud to everyone?

01:09:52.19
Ricky: Did I start playing?

01:09:52.42
Flav: No, you're not you're not you're not a twitter

01:09:53.07
Ricky: no No, i just fucking swallowed it. That's what you got to do. You're just like, great. That's my own fault. My own responsibility. I didn't bring my headphones. I'm not going subject everyone to what I'm going to be playing.

01:10:06.33
Ricky: So, no, totally agree. And thank you for that. Well done. Right, we're going into…

01:10:18.39
Ricky: knicker stock of glory when i was younger i was a player out every weekend different birds every week trophy time i used to take a pair of knickers from them hopefully worn ones but if that failed i'd raid the knicker drawer this big string years went by even moved house twice and took the collection with me I put the knicker collection under my chest of drawers for safekeeping.

01:10:46.62
Ricky: Anyway, ah start seeing this bird. She starts staying around. i was an early starter at work and used to leave her there until she fucked off to get the train home. She comes round one evening and tells me, think we need to have a chat.

01:11:02.65
Ricky: So I was hoovering the other morning and I'm really sorry, but when I hoovered under the chest of drawers, a pair of knickers came out and they aren't mine. Neither was the next pair.

01:11:14.55
Ricky: Or the next pair after that. Well, she took me upstairs and pulled them all out. A massive assortment of different knickers. She starts holding them up.

01:11:25.02
Ricky: All sorts of sizes. Big ones, little ones, skinny ones. Some for the more sizable birds. Then she pulled out this tiny G string and goes… And who the fuck would fit into this?

01:11:36.92
Ricky: Well, this is definitely something i only I know. it was her best mates who I'd fucked a few years earlier and she never knew. and that is something only I know.

01:11:46.95
Flav: She kept collecting all these knickers.

01:11:51.19
Ricky: And hay yeah ah ah that is mad.

01:11:52.31
Flav: Big ones, small ones.

01:11:57.19
Ricky: that's yeah That is a mad collection.

01:11:58.80
Flav: That is good one.

01:11:59.84
Ricky: Yeah, is good. And the thing is as well, when you're collecting them, like if you've just slept with a lady she's going home, it's like, where's my knickers? I don't know. You're going to have to go commando, isn't you?

01:12:10.20
Flav: Yeah. And it's obviously oh awkward, so they just want to get out there and oh, fuck it.

01:12:11.64
Ricky: I don't know where they are. Yeah, and you've got your trophy.

01:12:17.68
Flav: They're my knickers now.

01:12:17.80
Ricky: Well, yeah. ah do I bet he wears them as well. 100%. 100%. Right, that's it for Lads Anonymous. right that's ah that's it for laddanon um

01:12:27.48
Flav: on his On his head.

01:12:28.79
Ricky: yes

01:12:30.32
Flav: Wanking off. next load those Yeah,

01:12:31.14
Ricky: Gus it on his face. ah

01:12:35.99
Ricky: ah yeah Daddy pig. That's it for this week's Lads Anonymous. The topic for next week is the, you know, the drug crime lords, Pablo Escobar, all that jazz. Send in anything you've got to ladsanonpod at gmail.com.

01:12:53.75
Ricky: And until then, we will see you next week.

01:12:57.05
Flav: Suck your mum.

01:13:03.45
Flav: And the brothers playing in tunes, hires, kites.