#18 | Conspiracy Theories | how can you not believe these?

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Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous. It's episode 18, a podcast with two best mates of over 20 years. Invite you to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then ask you questions, dilemmas or need for advice, all handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast.

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Had I flav Rick, would you rather be? Would you ever be eaten alive by sharks or torn to shreds by wolves? Fuck, they're both not ideal situations. I'd probably say wolves because I'm on land. Yeah, that is the correct answer. I imagine being yeah, while you're in an abnormal it would take. It was probably take longer for wolves to get you, but if you're attacked in the ocean, sharks typically typically if they're healthy, won't devour you whole unless they're starving.

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So you'd get hit by a shark. And it. Would you watch it circle you as you bleed out? Fingers crossed he gets an artery. Because if he does, you bleed out quickly. Yeah, if he's just. If he's nectar and he's waiting for you to die, he might come in for another little bite just to check. And then he swims away again.

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And you don't know when it's come in with wolves surrounding you? Yeah. And also, the thing with wolves is that. Not that I could fight them off, but I could. I feel more in control of that. I could, I could for a few. Yeah. Maybe not wrestle one off. They're still nipping at me and shit, but I could still boot one, and I could do.

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I could do a few bits. I could grab a branch from a tree and whack them, and they'll be circling me. And one would be like, coming from behind and from the side, and I'll get the one at the front, and and eventually I'll come and I'll just lay there and have to be beaten to death. Torn apart.

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Torn apart. Yeah. It wouldn't be beaten to death. That's. You got to think about what's happening here. You'd be. Your flesh would be torn from your body. Right, right. And let me add another little kicker in there for you, Rick. Okay, okay. You can choose the sharks, or you can choose the wolves. If you choose the wolves, your kids have to see it.

00:02:26:10 – 00:02:42:00
Fuck. I don't want my kids to see that. I probably can have the guy with sharks now. Yeah. So you're choosing to be eaten alive by sharks in the ocean? Is that with him at night? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you know. Why do you keep throwing stuff in their kitchen? You know? Do you know what it is, Rick?

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Right. You know, I think I've been thinking. You know how much I think about sharks? About more than anything. More than spurs? Yeah. You know that.

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Yeah. You know it's true. You know that book, it's like on Tik Tok when Spurs content comes out, I just fucking flick, pass it as fast as possible, shark until it comes out. I'm like, yeah, yeah, but you know, that boy that jumped off there was like, that frat pot? Not like, graduation party. And he was in the Bahamas and he jumped in the water at night.

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No, I'm not saying that. You know, I'm saying that it was massive, massive, massive story long and but maybe beginning of this year, in the last year, there was this huge, they were celebrating very rich people, obviously, and the university students or college students now celebrating their graduation and the way they were celebrating is they chartered this massive boat, right?

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And having a party in a boat, and it's about one in the morning. And he decided to jump into the water. Why? So that he jumps in the water and they've never found him. They they've never he never seen him again. And there was lots of conspiracies or ideas about what might have happened to him. Okay, okay. Okay.

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Right. They've slowed the video down, and they're almost certainly see a shark in the water as shortly after he enters it. Right. Where was this again? I think it was in the Bahamas. God, there's probably a sort of gray reef shark. Yeah, something like that. Whatever. Maybe even a tiger. Possibly a tiger. But, but but the, the or oceanic white tit.

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Basically, what these sharks have learned is to follow boats because it's legal for a boat to put organic matter into or into the ocean because of the fear of, like, you know, disease breaking out on a boat. Right. Can you get rid of rotting food, meat, you know, chucking it into the ocean? So they used to sharks getting an easy meal so they follow the boats.

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So these boys jumped in into essentially shark infested waters where the sharks are primed to feed them. Yeah. So he's he's got he got, got an it was pitch black and the boat wouldn't it was a big boat. It would have taken ages to turn to get back to where he was. So he's jumped in the water and he's just been eaten by sharks.

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God, do you see this happen at night time? Yes. 1:00 in the morning. Like what? Like why jump in? Like the film? There's footage of him filming. They filmed him jumping in. This is. It's bad, isn't it? I can't, can't I can't get my head around. Why anyone up in here? Stop! I know I've done some silly things.

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I've jumped in the bushes. I've jumped into fucking beanbags. I've just been out. Yeah. At a bar on a street and stuff like that. There could have been knives and sharp cans and glass bottles or whatever. And I've done it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And I would have jumped in there, but into the sea. There is one thing when it's dark, it's another is another.

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It's, it's it's bloody city. I mean all these city isn't it. But that is just I can't even get my head around that. Do you wanna hear a funny story? Yes, please. One. Yeah. No. This bloke. Who. Calum. At my old work. You both straight and he, Yeah. He got pricked by a used needle on the street.

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Oh, God. Instantly convinced the lights. Yeah. You would, you would? Yeah. That's in the story. Oh, okay. Did it did he get tested or. I never followed up with it. Really? He just carried on. Said you should really get some. You should really sort yourself out with that. Yeah. He's just he's just had a kid. So I'm assuming you've got the all clear.

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Oh, okay. He's like three weeks. You going three weeks before you get to the all clear lights? What? Really? Yeah. He doesn't show up in your system straight away. So he's sitting there for three weeks in Canada. God, didn't he did it. It's not like it's not definite anymore. You can leave it. I know, I know, but I if it's if it's a series of rather having it or not, even if I can live with, I don't think I'd still say no.

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No thank you. That's have Aids or diabetes or you go for diabetes, you go for Aids. Diabetes is much more debilitating in the night. Now, these days you just don't you don't want the diabetes you can lose. You know, like I know later, people who've got diabetes. I know, but there's loads of people with Aids, and they're not dying in the way that people with diabetes died.

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Yeah. I'm still going to die. You're you're you're you're worried about the fucking fallout, aren't you? That's the thing. You're right about the stigma of Aids. Yeah. Yeah. How'd you get it, mate? Right. Okay, I'll say we go in. Okay. Yeah. I just ate loads of sweets. That's how it works, isn't it? I think there's like, 3 or 4 different versions of diabetes.

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A lot of my family have had diabetes. Really? Yeah. Grandparents by grandparents. And you'll get beat up in the future. Oh, for sure. My uncle has got it as well. Yeah. I'm. Yeah. I'll make a study that you say you need French. Did you use. You need to try and work towards not having to be eats mates. But.

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Yeah, that that's true. I don't really know how you do that. So I'll just carry on living my life until my GP says the beat is there. Are you doing, mate? They're knocking and they're going to get through, just accepting it and talking about this. Fitness and lifestyle. What we spoke about last week. Yeah, we had quite a few emails in from everyone telling us, their regimes, what they do.

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Is it for all those who say it's not doesn't sound like interesting broadcast that can't go for all of them. There is two bits I will go for you, but someone said about my sleep in comms. There's a there's a tablet called comms. Yeah, I know about it. And you can get you can get night time and daytime.

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And this person says the daytime. They swear by it and it will you take it, knock you out and then you'll have a great sleep. Another person said about, wheat gummies as well. Take one of them. It would knock me out for, you know, eight, ten hours and I'll be fine. I just want to say, me sleeping wasn't the problem, right, people?

00:09:06:03 – 00:09:25:08
It was the routine, okay? It was when I go to sleep and break in that routine. If you only sleep when I'm in bed, I can go to sleep. Fine. And I'll sleep throughout the night. That's great. No, I haven't changed. Right. Yeah, I'm getting that. I. I said it might is in my in your brain. He's just done it.

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And someone else messes in saying all you got to do is set an alarm on your phone. He's got one, and it says, go to bed, you prick. Now, don't you think I've already thought of that? I've got loads of alarms. Do you know what to do with them? Snooze them? Yeah, just turn them off. Yeah. It's. You know, they're an hour, but I'm looking at reels.

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Fuck off. TikTok. You've been on there an hour and a half. Yeah. Well, you know there's still more. You gotta find a. Yeah. Just to warn me off the apps to say you're spending too much time on them. Ricky, you need to and you need to stop doing this. And I'm like, having fun is an irony. You're looking at people for your phone is telling you to to stop watching it.

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And it is a fucking phone. It's designed for the phone exactly that way. We had someone from Virginia, Virginia in America, that was saying about all the additives and preservatives and everything that is just injected into American food, and even went to go as far as saying the milk, the milk is poison. Yeah, they love a bit of processed food in America.

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Yeah. So no fresh food. What's the purpose of that is? Well, how how did you get around it I don't know. Yeah. Well, I don't know how you get around it. Like, they just accept it. Is it? What is it? Why why did I put so much additives in there? Because you don't have the same products in England and the same products in America.

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But they're the list of preservatives and all this shit that's in there. Sugars much longer. Yeah, but, no doubt tastes exactly the same. Is it the taste of. Or maybe it tastes different, but is it the taste of American people require that? Or is it that they that their ketchup last longer? Is it more cost effective? What is it we have?

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We and we have the sugar tax over here. So yeah we have a sugar you stuff. You got to pay more for it. That's a good thing. Sugar tax. Yeah. Well I'm not. It might save me from the Beatles for a few for a few months. Just the government are making money out of it. You're still eating the same amount of sugar, and you will not.

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Oh, shit. Yeah, I am, yeah, you're right, goddamn it. Right. I mean, like, what was it? It would lead on to our topic of conspiracy theories. But do you want to go into these two emails? Alternative perspective. Hi. Dense. Well, I download an occasional sexy dream here. Yes. Just listening to the Canadian person, the personal trainer opinion on how the reason for joining a gym is the prime motivator.

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Now, that person said that you need to, get something like a feeding that's, you know, qualitative as to say I'm going to the gym to work out because it will give me more, more of my life that I can spend with my kids or my nieces. Yeah. So it's not about the abs. It's not about big pecs.

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It's not about any of that stuff. It's about what you get back, about going to it. Being a pet myself, I'd like to offer a different perspective. What I found in my years is that the biggest motivator is the community within the gym. Going to any well-known commercial gym commercial gym won't serve you as it's full of self-motivated people and this little sense of community gyms that specialize in classes that run client events parties have.

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Running clubs are what you want. It becomes a social thing, similar to going to the pub. That's what you keep. What? People keep coming back. The grass feels less like a grass when you're suffering with other people. I hope that helps. Hey. Helps, fellas. Good. There's those. There's a gym near me called tribe, and they,

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Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. That sounds. Yeah. And that's what it is. They have all these sort of parties and get togethers and stuff like that, but I don't know, man. I don't want to go to a place that's just full of women that want to fuck me. That is, that that is perfect. Absolutely perfect for the next email.

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This is a female email. I'm 47 and I work with lots of other females of varying ages. I've lost count of the times I've heard them say, I hate her, I'm going to fuck her husband. So I think it can be a revenge thing. Revenge as a whole, revenge guy as a how women enjoy the thrill of the chase.

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And I don't think there is much of that with single men. Single men often want sex, so the chase is a bit somewhat lost. Married men are often more relaxed to talk to, as the first thing on their mind isn't how to get to the person they're talking to in bed. Obviously their expectations are exceptions to the rule.

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Maybe that's it. Personally, I don't find married men attractive. They are off the market. So that was a question. When I was newly married, I found that this there was this. Well, I don't go out much now. You know, I don't go out to these to clubs or bars, at all really. But when I did, I noticed there was a different energy that it wasn't there before.

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Yeah, I think it was the wedding ring. So that was why I was asking about that. Yeah. I've found in the past I've done. It's not a trick sound so bad. It's like this some manipulated women. And let me tell you how, they there was, there was this time, this girl. I'm not interested in you. I have a girlfriend, I didn't, I have a girlfriend.

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Nothing's going to happen. We're just having a drink. Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm off limits, so just, you know that nothing's happening. Okay? Something happened later, but. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, but but what I'm saying is that it was that reverse psychology type. Right? Okay. I think what I was doing really because it sounds really manipulative, but it was just like, I'm not I'm not really interested.

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It's not that it's not that deep is let's just have a drink. But I was interested. I, I know someone that used to say that, when they'd meet girls and they'd just be chatting. Everything was consensual. Just saying, like, she. I think she was into me back then. Yeah. That's fine. I mean, just saying, I think it was a trick in a way.

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Yeah, but she knew, I think. Yeah, yeah. There's another she stole money as well as well that night. Well then I carry on an antique iron. We had in it. She said she likes you. I'm taking, I don't know. What it's called. Keep my head to move it. That is fucking. That is bloody weird. I also knew someone that, say to women, I've.

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I've never come from a blowjob of. It just just just doesn't happen. And then he would get lots of blowjobs. So, you know, that reverse psychology kind of works. Yeah. We sometimes say I don't rate blowjobs in a. And then and then you, then you go, well, you haven't had one for me. Correct? I haven't yeah. It's terrible when it is.

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It's horrible. And everyone knows. They know they know, they know. Well, any young one. She's amazing. The amount of women that pride themselves on how good they are at that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, except for me, you don't really. You wouldn't need to be, across the level at all. This as long as your lips around it and without and but,

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Yeah. Yeah. It's it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah. Oh no. Oh lovely stuff. Oh lovely stuff. Oh lovely. Lovely stuff. Yeah. Just just being in and around and near it. Just blowing on it. That's fine. That's fine as well. Thank you very much. To the people of Instagram who are listening to Lads Anonymous taking screengrabs on their phone, posting it on their stories and tagging us.

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00:19:13:20 – 00:19:47:09
Flav yeah, so today's topic is conspiracy theories. Yeah, spice it up with me. Yeah. Oh fuck. It's just it's not intentional. I don't I know it is. I'm looking at you as this. He's not he's not. He hasn't got a clay. He's not got a clay and that's fine. Conspiracy theories. Right. Yeah. A belief that some secret the influential organization it was is responsible for an event or phenomenon now.

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Oh my God I just looked away from the screen and you've now got glasses on. When the fuck did that happen. Just the second. I can't see anything. Well, that's a conspiracy theory. Yeah, that Flav, even my glasses, I don't know, I can't seem for most of my screen from where I'm sitting. Such. Put them on then.

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That's good. Yeah, well, I'm going to read to you the top 20 conspiracy theories, and then you're going to pick three that we're going to discuss. 20 is a lot of it. Yeah I know I did the ten. Yeah. But then let's, let's double it okay. We're not going to go for all of all. I just want to play them out.

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All right. The moon landing hoax, 911 conspiracy theories. Yeah. Area 51 secrets. Yeah. Illuminati control. Yeah. Flat earth belief. Jesus, chem trails, conspiracy, all of those Covid 19 misinformation. Dumbass new world order agenda. Then all of those Rothschilds family control, I don't know, QAnon conspiracy, madness, reptilian humanoid theory. That's one of my favorites. JFK assassination theories. Him vaccination conspiracy theories.

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I don't know what this next one is. Is it help HAARP weather manipulation? Never the deep state conspiracy? Yeah, Holocaust denial theories. I'll leave that one. Freemason control climate change denial, false flag operations. No idea what that is. Think and fake alien cover up by governments. Now they're all kind of quite similar, but, which ones, you know.

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Well, pull your thread. Well, it depends what you're asking. I do, I believe any of them. It's not my, this isn't helpful for a podcast conversation, but I'm always of a position of, like, what can I do about it? Like, all right, so what there is, there is a Illuminati. There is, 911 conspiracy. Yeah, I was there.

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It all right. Yeah. Flat. Okay. Well, now what do I do? What do I agree or disagree? What does it matter? That's my issue with with with people. That's so a steadfast in there. These conspiracy theories. I think it's a type of person that gets into him. But I tell you what, you did this to me. The free.

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And I think I would go for flat earth Illuminati.

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And and I'm to, I said Covid, but I also quite like 911. Okay. Well, so what about you? What do you think? Let's go. We'll go with Covid. We'll dive into we're diving to those three Covid, flat Earth and Illuminati in a bit. But again, so let's get your thoughts and conspiracy theories. Now, you've just said that it's all ballocks.

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Or it may not be bullets or what? What? No, that was wrong of me to say that. You said, what can I do about it? This is happening in the world. What can I do? What single man or woman or person? What can we do about it? I quite like conspiracy theories and I like. Do you remember? This is fucking going back years back.

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Go flat. You made me sit down and watch. It was on like a PC. Yes, I know what you're saying. What the fuck was that cold of? Fuck, I haven't thought about that in years. And it's like Geist. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Do you know, I was so moved by that that. Listen to this, Rick. I made up copies of this on, you know, old CD burners.

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Some of the kids. Yes, but you know what fucking CD burner is? Yeah, but his wife copying files and distributing things, and I would put, I would put them in places to hopefully people would wake up and see what we're living in. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Like in the in in in in, in, what's it called?

00:24:07:08 – 00:24:26:04
Like charity shops, shit like that. I'd put a slip him into DVD boxes. That is amazing. Do you know what I told him? No, no, I thought I was fighting the good fight right, exactly. So when you were a young man, there was a bit of a. It was a burning candle, shall we say. I think I think we flame.

00:24:26:04 – 00:24:49:08
Yeah. Everybody. Everybody, everybody has a, a younger person. And I'm not talking about teenagers, I think in the 20s and whatnot. Yeah. I think idealistic, much more idealistic, much more, you know, 100% politically aware. Yeah. I would say on the 100, I was, I was 100% labor voter my entire life. And this is coming from a family of conservative voters, right?

00:24:49:10 – 00:25:07:06
Yeah. But so I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just like, oh, I mean, I mean, I kind of morally I agree with it. But the world doesn't, isn't like that. You have to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd say more on more centrally politically and the same thing with this. Like, you have to really give a shit about the world and the world we live in.

00:25:07:08 – 00:25:31:05
If you're wanting to believe in conspiracy theories, I think that, yeah, I'm just saying that I an influence my inner sphere. What can I what can I change? How many lives can I make better based on the people I know? Rather than bring about a global banking conspiracy? It was exactly the same for me as well. Surprise, surprise that, you know, very left leaning.

00:25:31:05 – 00:25:58:02
I still I still feel like I am. Yeah. And labor votes, but as I got older, the only thing that I realized that I could control was these four walls in my house and the people that live there. And I don't mean control, as in my, you know, emotionally damaging them or anything like that, but a WhatsApp messages yesterday may.

00:25:58:02 – 00:26:27:21
Come on, man, you can't you can't say about WhatsApp messages they stay in their, they don't after a go. I'm joking. Joking. Yes I am. Whatever's going on in the outside world, I care about recycling. I care about, you know, pollution. I care about all those other things I really do. At the same time, I can do my small bit, but my main concern is for my children and my nieces.

00:26:27:23 – 00:26:56:16
And back then, I was kind of very, very political. Now, is there a time, like you said about the Zeit guys? Is there a time when you thought about it was the main catalyst that things on what they seem, or there was a conspiracy or that the mass media were manipulating you before it could even be done? I think you're a kind of a an awakening, almost like like you said.

00:26:56:18 – 00:27:23:19
Yeah, I think look, I mean, there was I read 1984 so that, you know, you said it, I read 1984, which is it is about the challenging and understanding the way the world works and, and looking at the world in a different way. Those that haven't read 1984, then you should 100% watch it, read it. But the message from 1984, and this isn't a spoiler.

00:27:23:19 – 00:27:46:17
In fact, it's been out like 80 years or whatever, so, you know. Yeah, but the message, the lasting message of 1984 is the system wins everything. Yeah, the system wins. And so the message is, regardless of what you do, the overarching power, power is, is what will last out no matter how you feel about it. And that's a miserable message.

00:27:46:17 – 00:28:02:05
But that's what Orwell was. That's the how Orwell saw the world at that time when he was writing it. And I agree to so, but it was that book that made me look at the world in a different way. And I thought, yes, I've got to do something I need to, I need to make copies of this sit this film.

00:28:02:06 – 00:28:27:24
Yes. So you gave me the book and I had the exact same reaction. It was like my head had split in half when I was reading different bits, and you could see the manipulation and control of words being swapped out of a dictionary, or how these different things came to. And then, then it was all right. Animal Farm by George Orwell.

00:28:27:24 – 00:28:47:20
Yeah. Very similar. And it's kind of like how a state tells you something, and then maybe it tells you something different and you're like, no, no, no, you told us that. But then everyone is just brainwashed into believing it was always that way. It's the pigs. Yeah. And they say, yeah, they do. They are serving themselves to legs bad for less good.

00:28:47:22 – 00:29:13:10
And then eventually that message changes and they go, no, no. Now we need you to believe this. Two legs. Good. Four legs bad. And you need to understand what your position is. And there was also Brave New World. We were reading a lot of this at the same time. And so these books, which are classics do social commentaries, Brave New World and George 1984 are considered to be kind of within the same sort of idea.

00:29:13:12 – 00:29:36:21
But of the two, that's more accurate depiction of what the future, what they thought the future might be. Brave new out now is it absolute? You know, is it you know, how how big companies, big pharma use, drugs to control us. How like the opioid epidemic in, in America is a moneymaking exercise and those are conspiracies that are validated.

00:29:37:02 – 00:30:02:21
They're true because you can see them. The opioid crisis has been documented everywhere. Everyone knows it's an issue and yet nothing seems to be happening. And why is it because you could imagine you could come to a conclusion that drugs is huge business in America, and what benefit financially is there to solving the opioid epidemic but is not?

00:30:02:22 – 00:30:30:04
Yeah, done. So I believe in that conspiracy theory for sure. Exactly. When you were growing up. Now, I wanted to pray that this wasn't a conspiracy theory by me, but, you know, do you remember a an urban legend or a myth or a murder mystery when you were growing up? I love those stories. It was like, that's what I go on.

00:30:30:06 – 00:31:07:01
So I've got one. Yeah. So where I lived, in Milton Keynes, I live down, Church Hill, and the adjacent ride was, downhill. Yeah. Was it downhill? Townlands, townlands, townlands and and there was a person that lived in a flat who was found dead. Now, when they found her, there was blood sprayed all over the walls, all over the walls, but not a single drop on her body.

00:31:07:03 – 00:31:27:22
And there was this theory. I can't quite remember what the theory was, but the blood had sprayed out of her ears, so that's why it was her blood. There was no cuts and marks on there, but it sprayed out of her ears and gone all over the walls. And we would go on our bikes and we would cycle past that house.

00:31:27:24 – 00:31:50:02
And just like looking through the windows, I mean, we never saw any blood. We never saw dead bodies, we never saw a murder weapon. But it was just talked about all the time as to say, who is anyone covering something up with it or what the police done, or there must have been cut marks or, you know, all these different questions.

00:31:50:04 – 00:32:10:11
That was it. That was a time where, you know, that entered my mind as to say, who's doing what. How is this happened? How is blood sprayed out of her ears? Yeah. I think I've researched it before and I don't think anything actually exists a lot. I've just. I'm just looking. It doesn't seem to be anything but the, the the we we,

00:32:10:13 – 00:32:35:07
Yeah. Yeah, but that but that's what that's that's the it's like, horror stories, isn't it? Like, you know, like the one where the, escaped lunatic from the asylum, and, and the other one was the, when the cars driving. I think it's called wrong Turn. It's in these films, these American horror films. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the they're driving with their lights off, and the first person to flash them to show them their lights off and.

00:32:35:07 – 00:32:55:15
Yeah, yeah, like them, they get them. That's the reason. Is reason enough. It it just, you know, that aura that some places have that bad things have happened. Dennis Nilsen, he was a serial killer in, in in England. He'd go out that she did a documentary about him. I know a dramatization that's really good. It's got, come and he's got to.

00:32:55:16 – 00:33:14:19
But. So I would walk past these house every day pretty much when I lived in Muswell Hill. And it's weird looking past it that just because of everything you know about it and how you feel about it, something is completely normal, like bricks and mortar is impacted by how you feel, and it goes back to conspiracy theories, doesn't it?

00:33:14:19 – 00:33:33:09
Because that these things are completely, completely normal, but because of your inbuilt agenda or things have happened to you you feel different about? But the one thing I could never, I dunno if we can move on to this, but the flat earth thing is a literally, literally. I'm about to go into it. Everyone was explain it to me.

00:33:33:09 – 00:34:02:23
What is the flat earth? Flat earth? The flat Earth conspiracy theory posits that the Earth is not a spherical planet, as widely accepted by scientists and supported by extensive evidence, but instead is flat. Proponents of this theory believe that global governments, space agencies, and scientific institutions are part of a vast conspiracy to deceive the public about the true shape of the earth.

00:34:03:00 – 00:34:38:07
They often claim that satellite images and space missions are fabricated, and that physical phenomena such as the horizon and gravity can be explained without a spherical Earth model. Despite overwhelming scientific consensus and observable evidence supported around Earth, this theory persists like I don't like what is the benefit of there being a who gives a fuck like look, whatever, it's flat around, who cares?

00:34:38:07 – 00:35:04:11
Like I I'm not. Is it because the fact that it's further proof the government are lying to us? Yeah. Is that what it is? Yeah. That's so I again I'm going to reference another podcast I did way back called the no No Holds Barred where I found a flat earther, and I interviewed him for over an hour. And it was really interesting because that was one of the questions I asked.

00:35:04:13 – 00:35:25:24
All right. So what? You convinced me. I'm flat. How does this impact my life? Oh, and ease about that. That's what it is. If they're lying about this, then what else are they lying about? But there were so many examples of governments lying or doing things wrong, or Michael being caught lying. You don't have to create this mental thing that this the kind of discredits everything you're saying.

00:35:26:02 – 00:35:45:22
Like in order to get to the fact, to prove you don't need to prove the Earth is flat, to prove the government's lie. So that was what I couldn't like. You're losing your audience when you start talking about a flat earth, because I just think your mental. If the purpose of it is simply to prove that the government is lying, then there are already many examples of that that you can use.

00:35:45:24 – 00:36:14:00
So that doesn't hold up, because they're simply obsessed with the idea that the Earth is flat and that's that. And that's where you lose everybody. And there's proof. There's so much proof. There is an example on YouTube of a flat earth doing the it's I can't remember, I don't want to butcher this and get it wrong, but it's essentially a photographic example of, you using a photograph to show that there is a curvature on the earth.

00:36:14:02 – 00:36:46:09
And he did it and he proved wrong. But I don't understand that that. But on top of the fact that the flat, flat Earth exist and to me it's crazy. But the reaction to flat Earth is, is also crazy because there's this there's always. First of all, I just want to say we've mentioned no hotspot on this part twice in the show notes, I'm going to put a link to, flap, the podcast that flap is referring to.

00:36:46:09 – 00:37:04:20
He used loads a different people, all walks of life. And this is the Flat Earther interview is on there. So if you want to listen but you can in that pod. Okay. Thank you. I got a lot of stick for doing that. What, the flat earth? Yeah. Why are you giving this guy a platform? Why are you talking to him?

00:37:04:22 – 00:37:28:11
People? The reaction to that podcast. There was a couple of the couple of conversations I had that got quite a bad reaction from the people that listened to it, people that know who I am and what what I'm about, and they're like, I got criticized for for platforming views that are counterproductive for stuff like that. I also did an interview with a Trump supporter, and I got a lot of stick for that as well.

00:37:28:11 – 00:37:52:06
Why are you giving this guy that? But that's what was at the was that the pro guns guy? Yeah, he's pro guns from from London from England. He moved to America and he was pro Trump and pro guns. Yeah I mean you can't shut down opinion and discussion. You have to have the conversation. Exactly. And the more you shut things down, the louder people get and the more that you aren't.

00:37:52:08 – 00:38:15:15
Yeah, exactly. And the more that you're not willing to hear side of the story, then the more vociferous that they're going to be. And you know, there's also with the flat Earth, there's this weird theory that if you get to the edge of the Earth, I think it's like the North Pole or the South Pole, the ice, there's like the ice.

00:38:15:17 – 00:38:35:08
Yeah, yeah, there was a there's there's a giant ice wall. Yeah. What? Over the other side of the ice. If I climbed down like a mountain, you know, the ladder of a swimming pool and you're climbing down the ladder of this ice wall and you get to the bottom. Well, still there, they reckon there's more, like more land.

00:38:35:13 – 00:39:01:01
There's the, like life, though. Like like just us doing what we're doing. But past the ice. Well, there's more countries. Water. Yeah, I think that's right. Flat earth map. I'll tell you, it's not yet like you get past there. And then maybe that's another thing. Maybe they're hiding all the good shit over there. Maybe. Yeah. That's it. That I thought.

00:39:01:01 – 00:39:27:21
That's how they're controlling the world. Like loads of buttons and levers and that's that. They're the ones controlling the weather. I've got on the undoubtedly be at least one flat earth. I listen to this. What is beyond the ice wall? And why aren't we allowed to go there? Let us know next week. That'd be yes. No, that's a known port at gmail.com, because when you go off in a plane, this is all.

00:39:27:22 – 00:39:47:08
Oh, I want this answered as well. Why don't we get to the edge? But why could you never see the ice wall or I? Yeah, that's a good. How can you fly all the way around the planet if it's flat? I'm sure this is very simple. Easy to answer question. Yeah, and it didn't like Christopher Columbus, I'm sure is him.

00:39:47:08 – 00:40:07:14
Then he said around the world to prove that it's it's round. And they didn't drop off. They reached the, they would say that it was I think they would just say that is so propaganda to keep sheep as dumb. But it's the it's the anger. There's a sort of this really kind of vitriolic relationship between people that that don't believe in it and people that do.

00:40:07:16 – 00:40:36:04
It's mad. What about so I'm gonna jump into this one is a bit of a sticky one and it's a bit fresh. It's a bit sticky. Still. Covid 19, the Covid 19 conspiracy theory, but a range of unfounded claims and beliefs suggesting that the Covid 19 pandemic was intentionally planned, exaggerated or manipulated by powerful groups for various nefarious purposes.

00:40:36:06 – 00:41:08:22
These theories often allege that governments, pharmaceutical companies or global elites orchestrated the virus's spread to achieve objectives such as population control, financial gain through vaccine sales, or implementation of a surveillance state. Despite being debunked by scientific evidence and health experts, these conspiracy theories have gained traction through social media and misinformation, fueling public distrust and resistance to public health measures.

00:41:08:24 – 00:41:28:12
Yeah, I mean, I keep going. I don't believe it. No, I just think there was a vaccine. Pandemics have been happening through throughout history. Yeah, this wasn't any different. I am of the same opinion. But what I will say.

00:41:28:14 – 00:42:07:14
The sentence of manipulated by powerful pharmaceutical companies, and I think this happened and maybe it was governments, businesses, whoever it might been, they saw their opportunity to exploit the situation and earn money out of it. That absolutely happened. Yeah. Like the, the, protective equipment that happened that we saw. I think being. Yeah, domestically fucking shit loads of money, was wasted and just on a, on a, on a personal level when use like people were setting up businesses and getting instant access to bounce back loans and stuff like that.

00:42:07:14 – 00:42:33:03
So, I during that time, I got a bounce back loan from the government. Do you know that it was a they were giving businesses that were in risk of going under money of low interest rate loans in order to ensure that their, you know, support cash flow issues so people earn money. And I was worried about what might happen in how long it lasts.

00:42:33:03 – 00:42:53:17
So I needed some money in my account so that I could just continue to exist. And sure. Because I didn't know what was gonna happen, no one did. I couldn't access a grant because I didn't have a business permit. So if I'd had at this office during pandemic, I would've been given cash free. Right. Which is mad.

00:42:53:19 – 00:43:23:24
The amount of businesses that didn't need it. But given this cash free, crazy. Anyway, so there was so the government, it took me literally five minutes to get that loan. There was nothing. There was no checks. It was no, it was just the government was just fucking dumping money everywhere. Do you think that was because that, that stimulate the economy, knowing that if they were given that money that they would put an interest on this money when they get it back so that they would end up making more money?

00:43:24:01 – 00:43:44:15
Well, the interest rates were so low that it wouldn't been a very effective way to make money. You know, they were doing it because the economy couldn't collapse, the economy collapses. There's be there'll be a lot more people dying than than what Covid would have, would have killed. And so social breakdown. And that's the thing.

00:43:44:17 – 00:44:14:02
Do you believe that it originated in China, China, China? Who am I who am I, China that changed that Chinese disease? Oh, my. China. Trump. Trump get out. Trump, get into trade. Didn't they prove it came from from it came from a lab in China. Why don't I know I don't know, well, I mean, if you were to ask me now, where did Covid 19 start?

00:44:14:02 – 00:44:45:06
I would say it was China. From my memory of everyone talking about stuff, it was from a bat, something like that. Someone struck the bottom. Yeah. Oh, it was like a like a farmers market in China. And there was a bat. And the bat, I don't know, sneezed on everybody in the farmers market and then spread it around saying, oh, it was a it was a bat that was eaten that had that, I don't know.

00:44:45:06 – 00:45:17:16
There's, you know, there's still so much shit that goes around. This is how interesting about misinformation risk is we assume it came from that lab. No one actually knows. But it has been politically, politically used by some of the most powerful people in the world to influence the way you think. That's have we think differently, about China and bats and whatever it might be because of this manipulation of the truth, and that in its work, in its own way, is where these conspiracy theories come from, isn't it?

00:45:17:20 – 00:45:24:16
Mistrust one. Yeah, exactly. And I wonder how people from China see it.

00:45:24:18 – 00:45:51:12
They played it differently. It was just a smooth spinach and it was cleared up just right. Something like that. But you can imagine you imagine like I went to Russia, about three years ago. I can't believe you went to Russia. Nice. Yeah. Drover. That's some of another story. The. It went to Russia. Yeah. And they were fascinated by how we viewed them.

00:45:51:14 – 00:46:13:12
And the reality is, a lot of it, when you think about Russia, it's fear. It's it's about, existential threat from, from from Russia. Yeah. Whereas they were like, no, we're scared of, you know, are you scared of us? Well, you're right, we are. They're different ways. A lot of Chinese, you know, just didn't have that discussion. But they were it was a it was a fear.

00:46:13:12 – 00:46:36:06
And it's because of what they me fed. And the people in Russia now have a completely different idea about what's happening in Ukraine than we do. Who's telling the truth? How do we know I weird like, yeah. I mean, I'm fearful of, Russians. They just scare me. How what, like, why would they be scared of the Brits?

00:46:36:06 – 00:46:56:18
Because we fry you like patio furniture across European towns. When the football hoodies go, they're like, what? Like, well, they. I don't know enough to talk about it, but I with any authority. So people are listening. This might be oh shut up. You're mansplaining this but they there has always been a kind of West versus east thing isn't it.

00:46:56:18 – 00:47:23:05
I don't know where it. Yeah, yeah. The Great Britain effectively is an extension of America in that respect. Yeah. And so yeah. And and you know that it's it's in, you know, how we view even the BBC, how they talk about Putin as if he's some sort of crazed old man. Yeah, yeah. Can't be. You can't, you can't I mean, I don't my, my issue with it isn't that he's a crazy old man as I.

00:47:23:05 – 00:47:42:22
Why you're in the twilight of your life. Why is he do it? Why are you doing this? I sit on a beach somewhere. But for him, what drives him is he likes legacy and if you heard that, he. When he. When he has a pup that one of his cronies has to go in, fish out the toilet, now fish out of the toilet seat up in a bag.

00:47:43:00 – 00:48:02:11
And I don't know what they do after that bury in the garden or something. So that his so his enemies don't know about his supposed medical condition. I like that very well because that was the. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, believe in that one. That's fine. Yeah. And like, so the authorities we impose can go. No one knows where they are.

00:48:02:13 – 00:48:23:17
They're all buried in. And he's got the. It is interesting though isn't it, because you you think about the war in Ukraine and you assume that the BBC and all these news corporations on our side are telling the truth about the Ukraine. You assume that reporting from Ukraine is the truth, and you assume that everything Russia says about the Ukraine is false.

00:48:23:19 – 00:48:39:15
Who knows? Who knows? He can't exactly. I mean, this Ukraine, this is in Ukraine's best interest to control the information so that things that are favorable there, people feel like things are going better than they are. But he's also they're in their best interest to make us feel like they need help constantly. So you don't know what the truth is.

00:48:39:15 – 00:49:14:14
You just have to believe and hope that your not being manipulated. But there's nothing you can do. Crazy is crazy man. Yeah, like when we go to the farm, even the fucking scum of the earth, I this is now this is my favorite or one of my favorite conspiracy theories. The Illuminati. You like these ones? Yeah. The Illuminati conspiracy theory revolves around the belief a secretive and powerful group, often referred to as the Illuminati, is manipulating world events to establish a new world order.

00:49:14:16 – 00:49:45:22
A centralize of the terror authoritarian global government allegedly consisting of influential figures from politics of finance, entertainment and other sectors. The Illuminati are said to control media economies and even governments to further their hidden agenda. This theory, despite lacking credible evidence, claims that symbols and signs of the Illuminati can be found in various aspects of popular culture and historical events.

00:49:45:24 – 00:50:19:17
It has persisted and evolved through the years, fueled by speculation, sensationalism, and the viral spread of misinformation. And I'm looking at the camera and Flav is doing a triangle with his fingers, mate. Sign me up. Fucking sign me up. Did you know Milton Keynes? Somebody has labeled Milton Keynes as an Illuminati headquarter? No, because there's a there's a couple of I think there's like four triangle buildings or sculptures or something like that.

00:50:19:17 – 00:50:40:14
They ain't got no gaze. And because of the, you know, Bletchley Park, the code breakers. Was that monkeys, Milton Keynes? Yeah. Did Milton Keynes assistant. Yes. I thought it was, like 15 years old or something. No no no no no no, there was loads of towns that, Milton Keynes and now they've just umbrella, they're under Milton Keynes.

00:50:40:14 – 00:51:03:23
So this is Bletchley, Bletchley Park. Right. And the place I live, Wolverton is the first railway town in the world. That's good because this it's equidistant to Berlin, London and Birmingham. Yeah. That's right. Is it much closer? The Birmingham. You're a fucking dick. I know what you're doing and I don't like it. So leave it out.

00:51:03:24 – 00:51:28:01
I'll just Google what is closer. That is Milton Keynes. I, I've googled it because you've y me up about this so many times. You. The aluminum. I remember years ago, one of our, mutual friends. Jack, if you're listening, how are you doing? He told me to read a book by a gentleman called Jim Mars, and. Oh, fuck.

00:51:28:01 – 00:52:00:00
What was it called? It was Plath. Yeah, the name is just literally just dropped out of my head. But it was about the Illuminati, and it's about the New World Order. And when I said about the other conspiracy theories, you know, the the, reptilian humanoids, I think I said, yeah, that this reptilian race that is mixed with humans, they're the ones controlling the governments, celebrities, scientists.

00:52:00:03 – 00:52:28:08
Yeah. All these other things for the, you know, furthering their agenda. I don't know what their agenda is, but I quite like the fact that there is a reptilian race. It was, was, David Hicks he's talking about. Right. They were like, yeah, yeah, he he loved it. And he's like, he's proper ten toes in it. Yeah.

00:52:28:09 – 00:52:48:15
I don't so clued up on it. I'm up for I'm up for kind of governments manipulating and you know, to manipulate a population to get a certain thing done. Start talking about reptiles and you've lost me. You've lost everybody. Don't do that. Just write. Oh, the book was called Rule by Secrecy. Just popped back into my head.

00:52:48:20 – 00:53:16:07
But it's all about the pyramids. You know, the triangle symbolism. You know, the pyramids. And then obviously the Illuminati sign is a pyramid with a is it the all seeing eye? Yeah. It's on, it's on the dollar in it. It's on the dollar and it's on the American dollar as well. So there you go. Yeah. Thinking all these symbols and patterns and this and that someone if someone said to me, there's an island where celebrities go and fuck kids IPO, come on, go to the island.

00:53:16:07 – 00:53:39:24
Yeah. Can I go that? I mean, that other is that right to make jokes about. Well you. Yeah. I'm saying you wanted to go to the island, not me. Yeah. I mean, what do what is that we say? Well, yeah, essentially, I think we should maybe keep this joke. So what's up? Why don't you fuck off? No.

00:53:39:24 – 00:53:58:09
Yeah. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't believe that, I wouldn't, I wouldn't lie. I'll. Come on. What is a massive pedophile ring in Hollywood? Nah. And, in true light, it's happened. And I was on the plane. Yeah, that's that's fucking. I walk, right. You stopping by? I think he's just stopping by. He said this one, right.

00:53:58:09 – 00:54:17:15
I just got a lift or something. Was involved in any of the sex. And Epstein is all. I mean, how could he have killed himself in prison? I know, right? But, like, not that that is just. But that is even, like, where we like Epstein didn't kill himself. That there's that one is in that. But even if he that.

00:54:17:20 – 00:54:41:19
That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like but you don't need that conspiracy to prove anything because it's all there already. It's crazy. I know the people that don't want to get caught, but that's just self-preservation now, right? Let's kill him because he knows too much. And Maxwell as well. The like the lady was grooming kids. It's always evidenced. It's their, like, focus on that.

00:54:41:21 – 00:55:01:07
And but if that is true, then so much of other stuff is probably true as well. Like there there is a pedophile ring inside Hollywood and they go to this island to fulfill their sexual proclivities.

00:55:01:09 – 00:55:29:10
Is a mentor to me and it's true. So what else is true? Yeah, that is what I'm saying when you just said and it's true, it is actually true. That's true. Yes. It's just so like and then like again Illuminati. The apparently these are the dudes that, Well, I don't think they're running that bit of it. They're doing the world economy and then somebody boom, you're up to it.

00:55:29:12 – 00:55:54:03
Yeah. This is like a maybe, a side side hustle. Yeah. They, they, I don't know that, that there is such a thing. I, it's kind of like, I think obviously if you believe in these things, you're a certain type of person. Yeah. And you're, you have a it's almost like we found out, like there's people that can't take authority in any way.

00:55:54:04 – 00:56:12:01
That is a condition of the brain. It's not like can be trained out of there type of person. I can't remember, it's called and people who choose not to believe or want to be contrary or whatever it is, it's, it's about who you are. So there's people like me. We're kind of like looking at a guy, and it might be true, but what can I do about it?

00:56:12:01 – 00:56:35:16
So I'm not going to think about it. That's that's one of my mates. Who is he just can't stand authority. Yeah. What does he like to see? Like conspiracy theories, mate. He was he was proper ten toes in Covid 19 misinformation. And he was like the real far. He was out of everyone. The furthest I don't know. Right.

00:56:35:16 – 00:56:56:22
What do you wear a mask? I don't think he did. No vaccine? No. He was just. He was like, reading research papers and then feeding back to me about. Yeah, how the scientist was wrong. I don't want to hear it. No, no, I did not. I don't, I don't get it. You know, people fall out, fall out.

00:56:56:23 – 00:57:04:12
And then just on that, I don't know, kind of Covid thing about the vaccine is you have the vaccines, right?

00:57:04:14 – 00:57:26:14
And there are people that didn't have it. And it was almost like a war between the two. Yeah. Instead of the people, conspiracy theories about the vaccine they put in a 5G network and all that shit. Yeah. Instead of going, you're a fucking idiot, you're a sheep. So cheers for that. Thanks for taking the vaccine so we can get back to normal life.

00:57:26:16 – 00:57:49:17
You didn't take it. You didn't do your bit right. That's fine. Don't take me out, because I did. You're benefiting from me taking the vaccine. So just let me. Yeah, let me get on with my day without even all your bullshit. John. I can't remember, like I said, to actually, a couple of people have email, didn't read these off, and then we'll were them about.

00:57:49:19 – 00:58:18:22
So I need to check these out. These are more aliens. But the Roswell crash if you're interested, remember? But yeah. Area 51 I can't I can't pronounce the guy's name. Bob Lazar, Bob Lazar. All right. Up. Nice try and watch or listen to the Joe Rogan interview I actually have. And it was fascinating. The Tic-Tac incident and the Senate hearings from last year with David Roche.

00:58:18:24 – 00:58:47:04
I think that's his name. Those are all alien related UFO. If you're interested in that, go and check those stuff out. Someone, why don't they? Someone is written in one the Zeit Geist documentary. Yeah, yeah, but the thing with is like guys documentary is is it's a lot of it is talking about stuff. It was it's not really even a conspiracy theory film.

00:58:47:06 – 00:59:12:01
It talks about the banking system and how they work. And it's crazy when you highlight what the banking system is and how how it works and how it stuff like the promise of funds, is is all. So basically the bank, one of the, one of the take home for me is the bank have ten if they have 100 pound in the bank.

00:59:12:03 – 00:59:36:19
Yeah. That means that they only need 10% of the figure that they're they're borrowing as cash in the bank. So if they have a ten they can borrow 90. And they create that out of digital currency like manufactory out of nowhere. Again, I'm pretty much and it's been two years I've, I've, I've, I've watched this, but they only need to have a small amount of what they can actually generate.

00:59:36:19 – 00:59:59:15
So they can they can generate money out of nothing, basically. And how long is that sustainable? And why isn't there a better way to do things? That's roughly what it's about. I'm going to go I'm going to rewatch that again. They've put in brackets. 911 was an answer. Okay. And the last one, making a murderer, Steven Avery, was framed twice.

00:59:59:17 – 01:00:19:11
Yeah, that's that's another. It's funny. It's like I said, it's about the type of person you are. I don't I watch making them better and I was I, I'm not into this. Why everyone else is I, I watched it and I was I felt sorry for the, the, the, the two dudes that were pinned to have been, apparently committing the murder, you know?

01:00:19:14 – 01:00:36:03
Where is it? Where is that woman now? The, there was a woman that was, you know, saying that she's the best lawyer in the world, and she's going to get him out. Where is she now? I don't know, you know, and I don't even know what you talking about. So I said, okay, I'm going to be brutally honest.

01:00:36:05 – 01:00:59:13
The the 911 thing. Right? The planes flew into towers. Like, why not not do that and like, just say I just make up some story about them killing Americans in Iraq, like a thousand Americans are dead or whatever it make up some story. Don't fly two planes instead of big buildings in the Twin Towers. That seems like mental.

01:00:59:13 – 01:01:27:21
Surely they can find other ways to engineer a a war in Iraq. And even then there were millions marching saying, don't go to war in Iraq. Let's do it. Don't fly. Well, I don't understand why why they would do it. When I was looking at the doing a bit of research for like 911, there was the same sentence that kept popping up jet fuel caught male steel beans.

01:01:27:23 – 01:01:47:04
That's right. I like well, it's not a I don't know what what, but it's just because of the way it collapsed. I think everyone. Because it collapsed that way. Because the jet, the melted steel beams. There was also this is a question about the planes disappearing. Like, surely they've gone through the building. That was another thing.

01:01:47:04 – 01:02:06:07
Yeah, but it was like they just disintegrated. I don't know it. They should have been. Wasn't there bits of the plane in the rubble? Did they ever find bits of the plane? Yeah, but. And also they, I don't know, they found passports as well of the people that wrote the plane. What? So I don't think there was no place with a real where they.

01:02:06:07 – 01:02:35:23
Real passports. So how bizarre. Paper survived. But, yeah, I don't believe it. Say, don't believe that. That's not evidence. Passports. That's not evidence. But I actually, I wonder if possible, some flap, anti flammable is that word. Yeah, I don't know. But again, there's loads of different bits to conspiracy theories. Some of it is just so far fetched that I just can't entertain some of it.

01:02:36:00 – 01:03:01:07
Yeah. Some of it. I will stroke my chin. That's interesting. But just like you, I'm going to carry on my day and not let any of that seep into. I don't even find that interesting, to be honest. Do you know, have you never gone down like a wormhole? Like, yeah. When I was a kid, I was like, I love living Paul McCartney.

01:03:01:13 – 01:03:18:05
Yeah. Go right to the guy. Yeah, that was the Beatles one. I mean, I love the Beatles. I should be more interested in it. But it was just that. And they sang about the conspiracy theories. Paul, Paul, John Lennon in, he wrote one of the first ever beef songs in pop music. Wow. How do you sleep?

01:03:18:07 – 01:03:41:20
He was aimed at Paul McCartney. You've heard that right? Such a banger, mate. I'm a bit, a bit like Oasis exist because of the Beatles. May. I've had this conversation. I've had this conversation. You fucking open your mind, and I can't but it's just fucking boring. It does nothing. He loves you. Yeah. Fucking if you're going to get annoyed.

01:03:41:22 – 01:04:03:16
Me? Not. That's that's early Beatles. That's rubbish. My 60. Is that made in the 60s? Really? William stuck. I was telling the the sun it was made in the 60s. It's not. That wasn't the Beatles. What Beatles and what influenced Oasis wasn't. I want to hold your hand. No. Fucking boring me. Your mum's boring. Anyway. The the.

01:04:03:18 – 01:04:27:12
Sorry. If you're listening to this. You're not going. I think she's not listening. Oh, she is, she. Some of it. I call her up by it. Anyway, the, What was I saying anyway? Yeah. So this is conspiracy theory that, that Paul McCartney died in a car accident and that, and obviously it was so popular they couldn't face losing what is a massive part of the Beatles.

01:04:27:14 – 01:04:52:17
And so they replaced him with a lucky, lucky. No one fucking actually believes that you will be out of your mind. But John Lennon RB John Lennon in How Do You Sleep said those freaks were right when they said wrong when you know you were right when you those freaks said, you know, I'm glad it's out, it's a shit, yeah, yeah.

01:04:52:19 – 01:05:26:02
They said those freaks were right when they said you were dead. That's that's him referencing the conspiracy theories and saying that he died emotionally because he sold out with things like the wings and stuff like that. Right. But by acknowledging it, it's proving that it's bullshit. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, a Beatles nothing. Just absolutely nothing.

01:05:26:04 – 01:05:57:03
If you've got any more conspiracy theories or there's anything we missed, send it in to lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. That's right. And we are going to be going into dilemmas and something only you know. Yeah. But first thank you for doing the automatic downloads. You seem to slow down a bit now, and I'm getting a little bit worried because I'm checking the analytics.

01:05:57:05 – 01:06:23:06
And last Monday when the pod came out, I wasn't impressed because the automatic downloads, it wasn't show me the numbers, I should be seen. So the new to this pod to passive aggressive Rick or yeah, I'm good to. Yeah. Going to get again if you're new to the pod and or if you haven't done it please can you set lots anonymous to automatic download.

01:06:23:08 – 01:06:54:06
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01:06:54:06 – 01:07:07:11
And it does us the world of good an hour ago. So thank you to those who do it and to the new people that will do it. After this. God bless you. Now we're going to go into.

01:07:07:13 – 01:07:38:18
Dilemmas. The first dilemma is and it's the only one is called Jekyll and Hyde. So I'll just tell you got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad, cause penguin tissue aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to be like you're safe here to get nice and warm.

01:07:38:18 – 01:08:07:12
Between waking up and. I was introduced to your show by the guy that I fell in love with from a VR game. I met up with him two weeks ago and stayed at his place. Things were going great. He truly is talented and amazing and everything I want in a man. I stayed at his place and we would go out and have a few drinks.

01:08:07:14 – 01:08:32:22
One night we were drinking in his flat when one drink turned into two, then one bottle turned into three. He wasn't going to stop. I notice a different side to him and I felt uncomfortable. He is a massive fan of your show. I want him to know that I love him and that he needs to get better. I left in the morning when I realized that I couldn't deal with his drinking problem.

01:08:32:24 – 01:08:54:21
It was a Jekyll and Hyde moment. I miss him terribly, but I don't know if I can go back to him in case he does it again. I've mentioned that I would support him from a distance. He told me he wants to stop drinking completely and I hope this. However, I don't want to be the reason he stops as he should stop for his reasons.

01:08:54:23 – 01:09:09:08
What are your thoughts? I think it's harder for men to give up drinking. It's so indoctrinated in our culture. Please help.

01:09:09:10 – 01:09:47:11
Part one. Yeah, especially if they're both listening. Well, that. I mean, they might be or might not be there. But I'll tell you one thing. They better be fucking automatic downloaders. Oh, my. It's a hard one, but I think obviously there are going to be other people, a lot of other people that are listening to this where their partners may enjoy a wee beer at night and may enjoy a bottle of vino during the night, every night for the whole week.

01:09:47:13 – 01:10:13:00
And how do you approach that? Do you approach it, or do you let them find their own way, or let them go to the bottom of the barrel, for them to find their way up again? I mean, it's it's it's hard. I mean, it is alcoholism is prevalent everywhere. There's people that talk about it. People don't talk about it.

01:10:13:00 – 01:10:34:19
People that are able to give out, people that are, this consumes them, that they wake up in the morning. The first thing they need is a beer or an an or there's other people that just get home and on, they're able to have a couple of bottles of wine to share or a bottle of wine and, and stop and there others a drink in sight.

01:10:34:19 – 01:11:03:07
Look at the if you looked at my alcohol intake, you would say. I reckon you would. It was unhealthy for fucking sure. Right. And this I think about stopping drinking all the time, but it it's not easy to do. It isn't a reflection on someone's character if they cannot give up a substance, whether that be alcohol, cocaine, caffeine, whatever it is, it's just different degrees of damage they're doing to the body.

01:11:03:07 – 01:11:33:14
But you're still addicted to substance. And we are predisposed as human beings to seem to want to change our perception in whatever way that be, whether it's the comfort of alcohol, the warmth it gives you, or the, the, you know, psychedelics, whatever it might be. Interestingly, psychedelics aren't addictive in any way. Other substances are. And not just that, you know, cigarets and, you know, tablets from the doctors.

01:11:33:16 – 01:12:01:00
But are you are you, obviously we've only heard a little bit there. Yeah, but it sounds like he's. I mean, did he behave badly? Did he with did he just get drunk? Was it a one off. Did it happen over several times? I think you owe it to yourself to, at least experience your some time with him and and and see where it goes.

01:12:01:02 – 01:12:23:24
I appreciate not wanting to get involved in trying to help someone out of a, situation. If you have your own bits and pieces going on and everyone has their own issues and fall in love with someone who has substance issues that affects their life and impacts their life is, a massive commitment. And it's unfair to expect that of someone to help fix them.

01:12:24:01 – 01:12:59:00
But, you know, how bad is it? Yeah, we all have coping mechanisms for what it would be during a normal working day looking after your kids or just a full stop on the day and you go out for a cheeky little spliff, or you, you know, you have a glass of wine or whatever it might be, and sometimes you might have a bottle of wine, sometimes you might have three or blame dogs, you know, sometimes you might do, you might overstep it.

01:12:59:02 – 01:13:38:23
I don't think there's anything wrong with it until you start going down. The the route of where it becomes out of control and it's affecting people's lives and it's affecting relationships, and it's affecting loads of different facets to your life, work and stuff like that. I think what Flavia said, I think it would be a good idea for the pair of you, because obviously this is out to sit down and have a conversation about it, because if you do want to be with each other and it is an issue, then maybe it's it's worth trying to figure it out together.

01:13:39:00 – 01:14:09:23
Maybe it's worth thinking about different triggers that that set it off. But it's for the person who who is drinking again says, don't understand that, don't know the context of it. Then how much they're drinking, how often what that kind of, repercussions of said drinking is. But I think it is worth having a, a chat with each other to see, you know, what can be done about it.

01:14:09:23 – 01:14:34:21
And if it's if it's a normal I don't know how long the relationship is in stock. So it's a tricky one. But to anyone else out there that that's listening to this, that obviously isn't in this relationship, that's again, it's fine to have these these little crutches because you need them to get through your, your normal, you know, daily routines.

01:14:34:21 – 01:14:55:22
But it's when it goes a step too far and that becomes the norm that someone's probably well into their addiction. Then it's very difficult to stop. It's not just a case of why don't you stop? For me, it doesn't work like that. Addiction now. So it's not like it's not like he'd be choosing the booze over you. It's a very complex thing.

01:14:55:22 – 01:15:16:24
Why addiction happens and often is associated to other things that are not. It's not just about the feeling of getting drunk or taking drugs. Generally. It's a some sort of inbuilt trauma that leads people to do substance abuse. So it's very complex. But yeah, it could be that he gets he gets over it, but it would be a shame.

01:15:17:00 – 01:15:51:07
I guess if you do genuinely love each other, just to nip it in the bud without trying. Yeah, totally. I think there's as far as we can go to to answer that. I hope anybody listening found that that was useful. We are going to go onto something only you know, right now. Why something, you know.

01:15:51:09 – 01:16:13:17
Is this yours? Might. Years ago, when I was 17 or 18, me and a couple of mates took off on a road trip up to Byron Bay in brackets, Australia for new Year's. It's important to note at this point I was having some stomach issues on the drive up. Once we got there, we set up our tents and headed into town for a night in the booze.

01:16:13:19 – 01:16:35:17
The night was great. Lots of drinks, talking to some roadies and having a great time. I suddenly felt the need to relieve myself. This feeling came on pretty quick so I frantically searched around looking for a bathroom. The streets were closed off due to being New Year's Eve. With thousands of people out for a big night, I couldn't find anywhere normally acceptable.

01:16:35:19 – 01:17:06:20
That time was running out, so I found the bush in the shadows and got my pants down just in time before I exploded. The bush was on the main street with people walking in every direction. I was reasonably out of sight from the public. I had done the deed and now I needed to clean this mess up. Obviously I didn't have any toilet paper, so I looked around and found a piece of cloth I thought was a t shirt or something from one of the party goers.

01:17:06:22 – 01:17:33:13
I was pretty drunk, so cleaned myself up and went to walk out of the bush back into the crowd. But as I did, I looked down at the mess I had made and realized the cloth I'd wipe my ass with was actually a homeless man's pillow. Even though this is over a decade ago, I still feel the shame and embarrassment.

01:17:33:15 – 01:17:54:06
So my, That's some fortunate. It is unfortunate. I saw this video the other day with, this bloke just caught short and just did it, pulled his trousers down instead of poo and walked off and the dog. But the dog, a dog walker walked past it about 20 minutes later, and the dog just dive right into it and rolled in it.

01:17:54:08 – 01:18:20:14
Human shit all over the dog. And he does, that video. What can you do? Like? Well, we all make mistakes and then poor. And you, my I. Yeah. If you had poos outside. I've never met you. Never once have I ever done it. I'd probably say about 15. It's wild. It's wild. Mate. What happens? You just get to a stage, you have that you're going to shoot yourself in your pants.

01:18:20:14 – 01:18:50:22
If you don't do it. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much. It's either in my pants or wherever. I am, and my bo has this kind of like, sometimes it does it. It's like a like a homing pigeon where it knows there's a toilet in the vicinity. It's somewhere, there's a toilet somewhere. And it will say, because we're near it, we'll just start ejecting now, like, you know, like in a band of brothers where the planes are flying over Normandy.

01:18:50:22 – 01:19:07:10
Yeah. This somewhere around the village. But there's loads of people shooting at them. Dump it. We're kind of in here. Just. Just get the paratroopers out. Just fucking get them out. Green light goes on. They jump out. They're nowhere near the village, but they're out at the mission accomplished. That's what my stomach does. It's like, I know, I know, there's a toilet.

01:19:07:10 – 01:19:27:08
It's just fucking. Get out of it now! Come on, you'll find one. And eventually I don't. And I have to just have a marker out in the bushes somewhere taking out the RFA. Right. This night. Because that was the Americans. I take them out. Yeah, right. That's right. Yes. Right. The next one.

01:19:27:10 – 01:19:50:05
I'm not very well. Have a nice day. I'm a female in her 40s who listens to from the UK. You may not believe I'm female by the end of this. Oh, God. I work in care. And I should have known better than to drink when a school night. I had an absolute skinful the night before. Got up, couldn't let anyone down.

01:19:50:07 – 01:20:11:15
I was a grown up. I went to my first patient at 7 a.m.. She had dementia and it was her birthday. I wish you a happy birthday. An escort her to the bathroom to help her wash and dress the heat in the bathroom with the steam from the shower was getting a bit much, but I managed. I go back into the lounge and I was making her breakfast.

01:20:11:15 – 01:20:35:12
I started to feel a bit unusual. Something was coming up or coming out and there wasn't going to be much more warning. I made her breakfast and took it to her. I managed to get the words out. Can I use your loo? Loo? That's so British. Yeah. I hastily made my way to the bathroom. I sat on the toilet and all hell broke loose.

01:20:35:14 – 01:21:07:05
You talk of shoes falling out from a lot. This was Donald Duck being strangled. Yeah, it just kept coming out. I rested my sweaty face against the porcelain tiles and a short reprieve. And then it continued. I couldn't stop even if I wanted to. This thing I haven't mentioned yet is the patient lived in a small bungalow. It was a front door with a small hallway and all the rooms she she had were on the sides of this hallway.

01:21:07:07 – 01:21:33:01
The bathroom was nearest to her front door. I made it just in time. I'm sure I didn't have anything left inside me, but I was repeatedly proved wrong. At this point. I heard a large group of family enter through the front door singing Happy Birthday. I knew I had to stop before they entered, but I could in my awful bowel.

01:21:33:01 – 01:21:55:24
Sounds filled any silences they had some sentences. I started to think about how I was going to get out of this. It absolutely reeked. Do I pretend the patient did it and I'm cleaning it up in here? Yeah. No, that wouldn't make that would make sense because they saw the door shot, I said, then I still I'm going to have to just accept it.

01:21:56:01 – 01:22:21:06
They know I have shot that, but the smell was so bad I couldn't take the rap for it. On SOB, I looked for some air freshener. Nothing. I saw some talc and I thought, I will puff that a bit. I've made it absorb some of the smell. I did that but squeezed it too hard. The lid popped off, leaving a mound of talc in my pants and on the floor.

01:22:21:08 – 01:22:53:14
I cleaned up, accepted my fate, walked out the bathroom and said, I'm not very well. Have a nice day. I ran down the driveway. Amazing. That's all Ballocks. Well, you we don't believe that. No, because you know why? Why women don't poo. We all know that. Just having a laugh with us, I think I can almost smell. Yeah, well, you know, I mean, it was shocking a little bit.

01:22:53:15 – 01:23:10:00
Yeah, it was, it was, That is genius. That is the end of, something only, you know. Okay. Something, you know.

01:23:10:02 – 01:23:37:08
The topic for next week is growing out of drugs. Oh, good. Growing out of drugs. So this is. I'm going to open the floor a bit more here. Not drinking is hard. And then I out not buying you 20 Molly likes because you're a social smoker. Only smoking on nights out and not smoking during the day. I'm looking at you Flav.

01:23:37:10 – 01:23:59:09
And the obvious no longer taking bumblebees or party powder and all those sort of things. Yeah I de but I can't do it anymore can I. You can't be, you can't be a, you can't be a parent and do it. You just can't not, not I don't mean like ethically. Fuck that. I definitely would do it if they're not around.

01:23:59:11 – 01:24:17:14
It's not because I'm a parent. I've stopped taking these drugs and when I went towards them recently, I definitely took loads of drugs. But the responsibility and we'll talk about it, we talk about talk about this week. Yeah, yeah. Exactly, exactly. Well I, I smoked weed for, for 20 years solid. And I haven't touched it in three years.

01:24:17:16 – 01:24:48:09
Next week I will leave you with that cliffhanger. Thank you for all I downloading. Thank you for sharing your stories on Insta. Thank you for listening. We will see you next week. Good bye everyone. Bye. Arkham night hazy light. Band of brothers. Playing tunes. High is quiet and midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways.

01:24:48:10 – 01:25:06:05
Love a music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is how we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what, the bond remains. Brothers. You know one another Bible. Yeah.