#42 | TikTok creators | don’t believe the truth…

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Football is not allowed to have sex before a big game, so I keep my poo in there so that I'm always on edge. So it's true. I think about like doing a masturbation before a big thing or something. You need to concentrate on. Don't masturbate. Really? Yeah, I think so. I if I've got a big meeting or something or, I'm going on the overlap.

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I'm, I won't masturbate for a couple of days. You know, football is one of sex before the game. Yeah, I know, like, say you're in a hotel room, you've got all that spare time. You're like, you look down, you're like, no, not today, not today, fella. Also, what am I going to do in a hotel room that I haven't done elsewhere?

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I need more I, I'm not I, this may shock you. Rick and I spend a lot of time in hotel rooms. I probably have to do a hotel room four times a month, but I never. I never go for a quick way. I never do, really? Yeah. No, that'd be like, one of the first things I'd be doing in there.

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Not first. I'm not really bothered by it much anymore. It really wow. Poverty. You buy it at the moment. I'm bloody bothered about it. It's half term. The kids in the missus are at home and I. There is just no free time. There's no spare time to nip off. Well, well, in an ideal world, how many times a week you nip it off?

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I probably say three, three times a week, mightn't you? 2 to 3. It's you. Can I imagine Ricky masturbating? I'm a kid. Sometimes I, sometimes I don't even, I don't like a lot of the time. I don't even want to do it. It's just that I know I need to rid myself of the poison because otherwise there's going to be an upset during the night.

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Sometime. During what we used to say on the podcast, our podcast, The Fighting Cock Podcast, about how you get off. Yeah, I really don't. I wrote up 300 people of what how I masturbate and my message was there is, well, people don't know. We did a, we did a live show for the Fighting Cock podcast, and Ricky was there and I think it was it the second one we did over the first one we did.

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And what we just. Yeah, we went through your etiquette of how you masturbated and it was like, yeah, you take all your clothes off. Now that was the bit that you added in, which was which I quite liked, completely naked, lay in vertical. No, no, not one can go. Yeah. No one can, go. Yeah.

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No. I think the story of who sits out in front of 300 people was that you pretended to fall down the stairs so you didn't have to go shopping with the missus so you could work the football? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. You did? Yeah. Yeah. And my missus didn't know that at the time. And I could just see the whites of her eyes, as you were saying.

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That's the room. Oh, God. But yeah. Brilliant.

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The night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music so I, we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is I, we like to speak and yeah times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous.

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It's episode 42, a podcast about two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice or handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav?

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It's not going good. Oh, God of school did my football pass the water last night I think get oh think get any sympathy from my wife. She's, Well I do that every day at work. She works in the kitchen. So I just just because you scold you, you burn yourself regularly. I don't it's new for me. I've never.

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I've never poured boiling water on me. Ever. This is the new sensation that I'm going through. You're used to it. And she's just like. It was almost like, man up, get on with it. And I just wanted her to hold me. I care exactly the same. Like my Mrs. has got, like, Teflon fingers from when she's getting stuff out of the oven or just in normal people use a spatula.

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She'll just like, use her fucking JCB fingers go in there and flipping stuff over in the boiling fat and I'm just like, what's the matter with you? Like, it does not not burn. And she's like, no. And then I say, yeah, dude, I'm thinking maybe I could do that. I maybe, you know, it might, maybe it doesn't, but it's on there for a second.

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Rick. It ain't going nowhere. I'll do it and that's it. That's the end. I can no longer use my fingers ever again. And then. Yeah. And then I'm like, I've not really put my fingers and she's not run on the cold water. And then it's like, well, I think that all the time. So I just get over it, stop being a pussy and then, you know, love I just wanted oh, that's really bad.

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I'm really sorry that's happened to you. And a little kiss on the head, and I would have been fine. Instead of just sitting in on the sofa, just gone. I think I've got blisters all over my feet. Legitimate blisters. I used to get the sock on this morning. If I was there, I would have run. Got a little, you know, the washing up bowl.

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Filled it with cold water, stuck your foot in there. Then I would have run upstairs to the to the medicine cabinet, got a tube of savlon and a bandage and sorted you out and then come down. Pat. Pat dried your foot. Yeah, I brought the savlon, applied the bandage, then, you know, raised your foot. Yeah. Onto like a buffet or something like that little cushion underneath.

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Yeah. Get you the remote and say would you want to watch. Oh, I would have felt so much better. Yeah. Exactly. What was the movie, 1986 version, please. Do you wanna watch it with me? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes, please. May she is, she is, she is, she is. I love her so much. But she's just got no time for limping around for wimps.

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Basically. Yeah. So I'll tell you another story of where she actually showed me no care to care at all. It was when my mum dosed me with a with a spice cake. And I thought I was going to die.

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She made some hash cakes and my mum had. And I think I had or I'm just got zero constitution for, for weed, which is more likely the case. She buckled me over it. I felt like I've told this story elsewhere before, but I was. I stand sitting at a table and everyone else would partake. My mum doesn't take it.

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So your husband does and my wife does. Right? And me. So it's I was forced. They've come round to visit for a day actually just the evening the round dinner and I've taken it. I was sitting there within 25 minutes. I'm like, I don't feel good, but I feel like I shouldn't. I'm okay. I think I might be okay, and I'm holding onto the table in front of me and I'm getting tighter and tighter.

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My hands are starting to sweat and I'm like, I feel really bad. And I just said, I'm just going to have to go lie down. So we're into this. I went into the front room, laid on the sofa for a bit. I felt like my toes were, but my toes were trying to touch my fucking forehead. I felt in I was in such a bad way.

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I legitimately thought, I'm going to be the first person to die from weed, right? I had to excuse myself completely and go to bed. My mum had been there 25 minutes far away, and then eventually only comes up to bed about three hours later after doing all of the, you know, hospitality from my parents and my legs are shaking.

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That's shaking. Have you ever had this on? We know. Oh, I felt like I was convulsing like I a proper wide out, but not not so. It was like it was beyond the way. I've had whiteys. I know what they are. It was beyond that. That was like the what was the beginning? This was something else. My legs were shaking and I Ollie.

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Ollie came up and I said, I think I need an ambulance. I think I'm not joking. I feel like I'm gonna die. I mean, I was and she said, stop being so stupid. She got to bed and went to sleep and left me. And then obviously after about 4 or 5 minutes more, it calmed down and I was okay.

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But yeah, she's like, I think women that women are just that just made from a constitution. Like with, with with Donna. She is I think I think it all stems from her. Her mum is a nurse and she just gets on with stuff. So whenever her and her sister were ill, mum didn't really pay any sympathy because she's in her fucking ward every day seeing people's arms falling off and stuff, it's like take paracetamol or have a glass of water and get to school, that kind of thing.

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Yeah. So so my missus is, you know, comes from that stock. So when any of us I mean, when the kid was real, she'll pander to them. When I'm ill, it's like, get on with it. And I think as well, when when I've got a hangover, I am like, the world's going to end right on the sofa.

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I'm throwing it up. She she has a hangover. Probably the same as mine. It's just some of it just starts fucking crying about that day like nothing's ever happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just doing whatever. And I'm like, how are you, man? She's like, we have children, Ricky. This household needs to carry on. Like, you can't just lay about and feel sorry for yourself.

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You got you got to get on with it. And I'm like, if we live together, you could stay on that sofa for as long as you want it. God bless you. Yeah, I would, I would, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even at all. I would do it would be bringing it bring you bits of toast and teas.

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And we've watched Band of Brothers together. Yeah. Oh, my God, that sounds so good. Our first season. I don't know what we went wrong, Rick. We had everything. We had the world in our end. Right? We had the world in our. And we could have chosen anything. We could have lived together forever. We would have been the happiest.

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Are two incomes? Yeah. Incomes. Right. We'd be able to do whatever we want. We'd be nice by motorbike. Each we. Rick. We finish work on a Friday. We go fishing all weekend if you wanted. Oh my God, every weekend. We could do that every weekend. Spurs are playing. Let's get a season ticket together. We'll go I suppose. Then we'll get bad.

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Then we'll end up in some randoms kitchen doing cat and gear at the Saturday night. Right. And we'll wake up on Sunday and will order MacDonalds takeaway every single week. Oh my god. Yeah. And then we probably on Wednesdays we could get into playing poker. We could join a poker club. We'd have the boys round every Wednesday. But what do we decide to do, Ricky?

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Marry women? Yeah, yeah. Fall in love. Head over heels in love and families. And it's not like it's, you know, we we we could, you know, it's not like we're banging every night, is it not? We are sexual relationship with each other. Yeah. It's probably about as active as a sex relationship with. Yeah. With our partners. Yeah. We I mean, we could, we could if we stayed together, we could have banging every night.

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It's. Well.

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That would make us a homosexual. That we don't do that because I'm a sexual Ricky. I'm not. I mean, we can't do that out of what I said was a really easy. Because you've gone too far with the dream. You've gone too far. You just having sex. And I don't think. I don't think even in prison record, I genuinely want to give, you know, I don't ever find a form of that.

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That sounds like a dream. What do we do? Kids, wives. We could have gone on holiday, or it'll just be me and you, right? We don't have to pay for the kids. There would be no kids. We could go to Las Vegas. The money that we would have together, we would be able to guys in Las Vegas if we wanted to.

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We mean this. This is sounded more appealing, but by the minute, why can't we, though why can't we? Why can't we just all coins from. Oh. Oh, Rick, I've got to take a couple of days off work and drive over to France. Fish and catfish. Oh my God. Right. We work for ourselves, Ricky. We could do that. Yeah.

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Why? Give me a reason why we can't do it. Tell me that. Because we are. Because we are family slave. Yeah, we that way that we need to provide support and feed. Provide. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was our choice. That was on us. Yeah. Never mind, never mind. They that there goes that dream. We could leave. Yeah we who we could I thought I wouldn't leave I love you, Rick.

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But I thought I'd never leave it. Never I know me no, me not so last week, the podcast on psychedelics. Well, I just want to make, an apology. So we had, like, 7 or 8 emails sent in about people's experience taking magic mushrooms and DMT and other things. Now, when I when we do this podcast, I try my best to put everyone's stories in and lo and behold, we get through the podcast and only one makes it or two makes it.

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And now I know you've gone to the exit to send in. And this happens most weeks. And we have something on here, you know, and the dilemmas that come in. But there are just so many more stories that people send in and I try to put them all in. What's the problem? Why is it why are you saying this?

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So I was well I wanted to put out there is on the occasion, if there are many stories that are coming in about a particular topic, I was thinking about doing a like a midweek 30 minute blast podcast of their stories. Now this. But reading them out, reading them out. Bit of commentary. Now this might be 30 minutes of a solo podcast of me doing it, or it might be 30 minutes of where I'm joined by someone else, or you're talking about and potentially doing digital content before they go around.

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Like, still, we don't do more is that we said, that's exactly what I'm saying. You're a busy boy. That sounds good though. I try and make the time to do it. Of course I know you would, but I'm just putting it out there, just putting out there. So if you're listening to this and you, you listen to the stories of something 90, you know, the dilemmas, the topics that we talk about.

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And you want to hear people's other stories that they send in. And there is a lot in the chamber. Email us at lads unknown pod@gmail.com. I think it exactly. That's exactly it everyone. Is that the kind of discussion table we get to hear everyone's stories? And it would just be a 30 minute midweek. Get it? That's an easy one way walking the dog, walking to work or whatever.

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So let us know if you're interested in that, or if you just want to stick to the main pod that comes out on the Monday. Let us know from an email if you see any of our content on Instagram or TikTok or Facebook or anything like that, can you please share it with your mates? That would be much helpful.

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And if you do enjoy this podcast, please make sure that we're in any conversations with your pals down the pub or wherever is to, to get this pod out there a little bit more. That would be much appreciated. Now, today's topic is the crazy world of Tik Tok. Now, if you've been living under a rock for fucking ever, let's give you a little rundown of Tik Tok before we start.

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So Tik Tok, who's Mainland Chinese and Hong Kong counterpart doin a short form video hosting service owned by Chinese internet company ByteDance. It hosts user submitted videos, which can range in duration from 3 seconds to 60 minutes. Since its launch, Tik Tok has become one of the world's most popular social media platforms, using recommendation algorithms to connect content creators with new audiences.

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And I know we thinking, if you're listening to this product, I don't use TikTok, so this isn't relevant for me. Use it. UPS yeah, yeah. You can't you can't use it. But what we are going to talk about is the kind of content creators that got, you know, famous on Tik Tok, but you would know them on Instagram or there there may be some kind of, person that you follow on Instagram or Facebook or whatever it is that you go for your, social media content.

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But Tik Tok want to have a look at Tik Tok because people can literally do restaurant reviews in their local city for a year, and they can accrue a million followers within a year. It's you. It's stratospheric in. Yeah, potentially. Yeah, that's that's why it's a bit like anybody essentially can become famous and for any reason and some reason so bizarre.

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If you explained it to someone, it wouldn't make any sense. Yeah. But they but the daily routines of people are watching them do their thing, which we'll get into. Yeah. But generally just quickly on and just do like in like people there up. Most people will have used Tik Tok by now. Yeah. Hey it's horrible. It makes you feel horrible.

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It's rots your brain. It's the shits on there is like just. The often has absolutely no value or. And you're doomscrolling. It's called doomscrolling where you just. Yeah. You're not doing of you kind of go into a vegetative state and you just scrolling watching content, video of the video until one captures you, and then you watch that for a second or a fraction of a second longer than other videos.

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And then the algorithm kicks in and goes, we gotta give him more. He paused. Yeah. He paused for a second game. And Rick, I've got to say, I fucking love tick tock me. I'm like stopping. I'm never going to stop. It feels like when I'm on there and I've been on there for a while that, you know, popping candy they put in your mouth, pops.

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If feels like it's like that on my brain, it feels nice, but it's I. I kind of should stop. I've sometimes good been there for so long, I feel sick. Sick? I've been in motion sickness and scrolling, I think. I don't love that. Look, it is. He's. But I think it's. What do you think? Tick tock.

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Overall is net negative on your life? Probably I would say. Do you know what? Right. I to, I'll answer this in a long winded way. So. Social media, like social media, gets a lot of bad cop. And I've been in social for, like, well over 12 years. It's been my profession, and I still absolutely get so much joy out of it.

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And yes, I understand the the bad bits, but you can. They suck so much wholesome content and everything is kind of there's a lot of niche content creators out there now. When we were growing up, we had, five TV channels to choose from now with, apart from Netflix and fucking Prime Video and Hulu, whatever it is that media of watching TV and documentaries and stuff, you know now got social media.

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I could spend an hour easy instead of watching a TV program, scrolling my phone on videos of TikTok and Instagram Reels or whatever it might be. Now. Has it had a negative effect or net negative? I'd probably say yes because it robbed me of time because I'm just watching videos of no value. Or like sometimes I kept myself cool.

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I'm not doing this all the time. There'll be a, a police chase video, and the one I've landed on is right on the middle of it, and it's part four. And I'm like, oh God, I need to go back and watch part one, part two, part four before know it. I've watched the TV program for 45 minutes on TikTok.

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Yeah, yeah, and that's tons of watch time and advert served and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's I mean, you know, they could do the whole video. You could do long form videos on Tik Tok I think. What's the longest video today? It's literally just said like what was it, 60 minutes. Yeah. Right. You can do 60 minutes.

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They don't want you to do 60 minutes. They know they need to do seven parts in two minutes because that's how they monetize it. Yeah. No, I what is it, a net positive or negative in my life? I'd say net negative. I think I'd be a better person if I didn't have it. Although me, I get all of my recipes off TikTok.

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I cook using TikTok all the time. It does have its positives. It does have its that there are content creators out there that doing really good stuff, wholesome stuff. There's a lot of wholesome stuff. Oh yeah, cool. I'm into Hope core at the moment, which is just lovely little stories that make you feel good about people. It's just nice things that people do for each other.

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And, that's nice. Yeah, that happens on TikTok. And actually, you know, you get the kind of Tik Tok, you get the kind of Tik Tok you want in a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you like, you know, Bevo and yeah, at Matthew's we going to discuss and stuff. Yeah. Then you, you linger on the videos and it'll give you the algorithm is so powerful and so effective that you get what you want basically.

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But yeah, I, I've got, I've cooked a meal yesterday that I've never cooked using TikTok. I've had a go at doing KFC Hot Wings and I saw a recipe had to go on TikTok. It went really well. It went really well. It wasn't. It's never exactly the same. I don't know what the hell. Yeah, I think it's a company that.

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Even the people, it's pretty close to taste. Yeah, I know it was pretty close, though. It was. It was nice. How did you make the batter then? That's where the taste is, right? What? The spices. Yes. So the the trick to the, the batter was a lot of it. They say like dipping it in egg and then dipping it in the bread crumb and then and all that.

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But this, it says dip it in water and then dip it in the bread crumb and the egg. I never get when people cook right. And you need to dip something in egg. And then dip it in breadcrumb and then dip it back in the egg, and then. Yeah, no, I don't know. I don't I'm not I'm some of it.

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It just feels like it's just you've just done done what you've just done. It's that makes sense I think sort of building the batter on you, you get more crunch. I don't know, I'm assuming it. What's what it tastes like. Pretty close. Get really close. Really close. Yeah. But it was a bit, you know, like if you're making it, you know, you don't really want to do all those steps.

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The right,

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Where did that come from? That's from my soul, baby. The the, Did you, did you how did you deep fat fry it? Because that's a faff. You know a point. Oh, yeah, I did, I did because I wanted I wanted to do what he did, and I, I could have done the air fryer right, but I was just like, it's not the same deep fat fryer.

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Yeah. It's fine. Like, ever as a right. Like, I could, I could do an episode on air fryers. I know what I'm right about it, but they are amazing. I'll tell you what is that fucking wanker like wanker on the chase, right? He's a Scottish one who wears that stupid little cowboy thing around his neck. Yeah, yeah.

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He decided to complete violence on Twitter the other day and just said it's not an air fryer. It's just a little oven. It's not a little oven. So it's an air fryer. It's like frying your food without the oil. He's like, yeah, yeah, it's just a little oven. It's like the oven you've got, you've just bought another I oven this little.

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It's not it doesn't know what he's talking about. Quite clever. Yeah. Yeah I mean it is. Yeah. With the oven we've talking about the attention span. I mean my attention span for going on these social media platforms. It is deteriorated like you wouldn't believe, like I used to be able to read and I can't I can't pick up a book.

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Now I try my best to pick up a book and read, but my attention span is just it's it's, you know, zero. Like you were saying about TikTok, you think, and because of Twitter and, yeah, I think all social media like especially Twitter, we didn't have mobile phones. It served us information constantly. Ten years ago I was reading about like all the time.

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Yeah, but this yeah, having this phone in my hand makes sense. Is too attractive. It's too attractive. Yeah. I wouldn't mind a it in the house we like after 9:00 they just go in the bin. But everybody loves their phones in my house. I've tried that, I tried it and it's just like, oh, I need to check just in case.

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Something, you know, there's always something to check. Always need something to check. Now you've mentioned a gentleman at the top of this discussion. Now I'll go for a handful of content creators on. You can find them on TikTok. You can find them on Instagram. You can find them wherever. Yeah. And as this guy says, be those er, be those there be bodies everywhere.

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So be vo. Became famous on TikTok for filming himself eat food and then writes it and he it was just like, I don't know, his dad would make him chili Konkani. The camera is pointing straight at him and he's eating this food and whatever the how good the food is, he always rates it seven seven out of ten.

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And he says, and if you have an Indian food, you go pick up the Indians, pick up rice, pick up. Yeah, right. Which is a big picks up a lot of people that that yeah. So had Chinese they up the Asians I all of them. And then his he did one video where he ate a roast potato and swallowed it in two bites like he was about to choke.

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So. So he would do that? That was the one that exploded. But he was doing it for a while. I really. Yeah. So he basically said that because his teeth of, he grew weirdly, which is he's saying it's like his name's his name, Brandon Beavis. That's correct. It is. Right. And it's called Bevo. Right. But it's almost that he looks like a beaver as well.

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He's two front teeth, sort of stick out. He's now his teeth fixed in Turkey. Yeah. But before that, they grew weirdly. Right. So yeah. You need a brace or something. That never happened. So I always thought it's just cuz he looked like a beaver he before. Right. So much about beaver. I know more about you than you.

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I don't know what notes you've got about, but, you know I don't. I'm not. Go for it. Well, he he had a mini viral success before the food stuff. No. Today. Yes he did. He, he used to rap drill music really badly. Are you kidding me? Yeah. I'm not. He would rap drill music really badly and then. But.

00:28:52:14 – 00:29:16:02
But act as if you knew all the words. And it was weirdly captivating, like the E in the stuff that he did where he. He put a whole roast potato in his mouth and swallow it with one chew or two chews. Yeah. Like a, you know, five year old boy might do. So he, he, he, he had like a bit of success there doing that.

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Right. And then he disappeared or lost his account or something. And then, came back with this other guy on Tik Tok called Aggie. The gift to know who he is. No, I've, heard of him. Heard of him? Was involved in that sort of shitty back yard boxing that they did. Anyway, the and he he bro said he's been kicked out by his dad and he's relaunching his TikTok career.

00:29:41:12 – 00:30:02:14
Right. And he was staying at Aggie's house. I do know that. Yeah, yeah. And then and then then he started to rebuild a kind of bro 2.0, which was this eating thing. We'd sit in front of the camera and he'd have a roast dinner and he'd pour ketchup. So you pour ketchup all over it. And he had the roast dinner.

00:30:02:16 – 00:30:33:11
The roast potatoes swallow it weirdly looked like he's about to choke. Yeah, he do that consistently, I think, while he's an absolute moron. Yeah, he's actually a bit of a genius. Okay. I think he understands people and audience better than he's give credit for. Really, I genuinely do. I think he really understands whether it's an intentionally or I might be giving him too much credit and he just stumbled across it.

00:30:33:11 – 00:31:01:17
More likely, I, I think it's the latter. Right. But whatever it is, he knows what triggers people. He absolutely does. And he is racked up, I think he's followings at, 1.3 or 1.4 million followers. Now, if you're putting content out there like Bevo and you're racking up those numbers on TikTok, you've got that amount of followers and you've got the amount of video views, he was getting.

00:31:01:20 – 00:31:30:09
He was he was making money. He's making a living off TikTok easily. He claims that he's making 10,000 pounds a month. Yeah. I mean, I've, I've seen a couple of videos where he says 20,000 pound a month and 40,000 paid him. He also very careful about the stuff he's saying on TikTok and Instagram, because I can't imagine all of these these kids got on there being tax efficient and having accountants and and he got up to 40 grand this month.

00:31:30:09 – 00:31:50:06
The tax man is going to be going. You're essentially if he's earning the kind of money he's earning even before tax, he's in the top 1 or 2% of owners in the UK. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So the taxman would be interested, especially if you think that the HMRC that people that work, they're not on Tik Tok watching Tik Tok all the time.

00:31:50:08 – 00:32:12:01
So fingers crossed his money coming over his trouble. I know of another Tik Tok. He's in really big trouble with the tax because hey, I don't know, she's pretty nasty. Piece of work. The I don't know her name. So Chelsea something she's like a it's hard to describe her, really. She's, she's, she looks like she's in her 40s, but she dresses a bit like an African woman.

00:32:12:03 – 00:32:39:01
And she speaks like she's, like, proper urban London. Really? Where I grew up in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of that kind of tone. And I can't remember her name. Anyway, she's just not been done by HMRC. They investigated, she'd done zero tax returns. The you don't need that money. Put it in a bank and spend it. But can I just say why I think that beaver is actually really aware.

00:32:39:03 – 00:33:00:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he. He made up that he was homeless. He was never homeless. He's admitted that on stream with someone we've had Matthews. I think it was. So he just made it up because. Yeah, we all making stuff up. So you understand that you need to to bend the truth. You know, the kind of traction.

00:33:00:06 – 00:33:23:03
But he also knows that pouring ketchup all over his roast dinner, all over it is like rattle people. It's going to make. Yes, he also knows if he eats a potato, weirdly, that that's also going to trigger people. So he just put in trigger points in these videos that forces you to engage with it. Like you want the the seven out of ten.

00:33:23:05 – 00:33:45:00
Everyone in the comments, you always rate seven out of ten. He's tricky. You're right. You know the rules. What? What rule? He never explains the rules. He knows what he's doing. He does, he does, he does. He knows it. And that's why you got to look at and go, this is shit. This is absolutely shit. But you do know what you're doing, how sustainable it is.

00:33:45:00 – 00:34:03:19
I don't know. You have to completely continue to evolve. But where you've got Mister UK TikTok official who doesn't know what he's doing, he doesn't know how to trigger people other than being an absolute fucking bell. But bellend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Do you understand what I'm talking about, Mr. TikTok official? He's the one that dances in front of if you ever seen him.

00:34:03:21 – 00:34:24:16
No. Not me. I'm all up in this fight. I'm hearing it. He's a guy. So he's. You would say in terms of levels of talent, bro. And Mr. UK TikTok official. On a par. There's not much going for them in terms of. Yeah, but they know that being a bit odd on TikTok is a way to earn money.

00:34:24:18 – 00:34:52:15
Yeah, bro is has created something that has gone as millions of views. Mr. TikTok official is that doesn't but he's biggest scam this scam. His biggest method was to get he would donate ten sleeping bags to homeless people through his gift, through the money erased from TikTok. Okay. That's that's a that's a nice thing. Yeah. What you what do you think he was actually doing that.

00:34:52:16 – 00:35:12:17
No. No. Absolutely. No. No. Just keeping all the money to say that he was doing it. Walking on walking, walking up to walking up to homeless people with a tent and a sleeping bag. Once. So he's asking people, is raising money for charity, keeping it for himself anyway, that is the kind of that that's the level of bro knows how to engage his audience.

00:35:12:19 – 00:35:51:11
And Mr. Tik-Tok UK official doesn't. And it's, you know, that's that's a fair point. Now moving on to your your fave Ed Matthews NHS Turkey. Turkey. They're they're more of this kind of new wave of, toxic masculinity. Straight from the Andrew Tate book of life. Alpha males go to the gym out in Dubai, got lovely watches, flashing money, flashing money, very sort of derogatory towards women.

00:35:51:11 – 00:36:23:21
Yeah. Most probably you say misogynistic. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And so there's quite a few these people that live on TikTok now, those I mean, I love any of all that stuff that I've just said, I absolutely has no, you don't know or relevant I don't. Yeah exactly. I don't identify of any of it. So how is it that I spend time watching their videos.

00:36:23:23 – 00:36:41:09
So I know what you're saying. Understand like and and you said Michael, what do you say? Andrew Tate, they're not Andrew Tate, is it? That's a different thing that you would. You would. Right. You might group them together and say, is is if the charges are to be believed. Yeah. She's almost guilty of something, right? Yeah.

00:36:41:10 – 00:37:11:18
Yeah, yeah. You know, he's generally trafficking sex trafficking women, right. That's different from Ed Matthews. Yes. Like, you know. Yeah. Means you bundle. That's different to different things. Yeah. British misogyny. But but understand agitate is a way to if people don't know is a way of grouping them, grouping it together. But what they are is it's they they were two lads obsessed with the gym and obsessed with women and not dissimilar to the kids I grew up with.

00:37:11:18 – 00:37:32:22
Really? Certainly, Ed, he reminds me a lot of people I had in my circle, that kind of thing. Not. Not exactly, yeah, but had perhaps the same operated in a similar way, but not to that extreme. And this is why I think we can watch that, because they're not real. They are real to a certain extent, but they're definitely characters.

00:37:32:24 – 00:38:03:17
They're definitely an exaggerated version of themselves. See, this is what I, a lot of people and like you were saying about the the engagement and people understanding TikTok or Instagram, whatever it might be, I sit there as a 41 year old man that is on these platforms and just scrolling and comes across it and I'm like, why are they doing that?

00:38:03:17 – 00:38:44:16
That's horrible things that blah, blah, blah, blah blah. But you saying about them, understanding the algorithms, the audience, the trigger points, the divisive comments, those types of things, it's actually pretty clever for them to be able to like, call it kind of like rage by almost. Yeah. And it's currency for them. Right. Which is like obviously we're I mean, I'm old so I don't, I don't I wouldn't ever put a but I try not to put myself into that position where I'm earning money or it's a step up the ladder.

00:38:44:18 – 00:39:08:03
If I'm making that type of content, you know, I mean, I wouldn't want to be known for. No, it must be exhausting and extremely negative. And and, you know, you've seen what Beaver's going through. Yes. His downfall is that he's hated. He can't walk down the street without people not throwing things at him. He does club performances and people bottle him by throw bottles at him while he's doing.

00:39:08:05 – 00:39:33:09
And because he has no talent, right? Yeah. Discernible talent other than sort of, understanding how to trick or people into engagement, which in modern social media is you can make money from. Yeah. That when he's actually forced to do something requires talent is completely is lacking, is lacking it. Right. So when he goes and does a club event and covers Freaky Friday by Dave.

00:39:33:09 – 00:40:00:22
Right. But doesn't know the words and just screams, people are thinking he's made the he's made the mistake. And you seen this. He that he's done an interview with another TikToker where they walk around. It's like a documentary about him. Really. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, yeah. I can't remember the other guy's name, but he believes on some level that people like him legitimately.

00:40:00:22 – 00:40:35:00
I think. Yeah. And they don't. They like to hate him. And yeah, that when you're starting to mix with people in public, that's potentially dangerous. And it but Ed Matthews is different from that. I think. Okay. Right. I'll see you. Right. Matthews. Yeah. And I will raise you. Bish 56 Octagon. Now, for those who may not know this gentleman, he's, he's a family man, but he has, like, a deejay.

00:40:35:02 – 00:41:03:13
I don't know what you call a DJ. Kind of, like, set up in his kitchen or something like that. And he plays a lot of old, dance tracks. Very knowledgeable, knows all. Kind of like the producers who made it when it was played, the clubs, club scene and all that lot. But for the majority of the time, while he's explaining down the camera, he's wearing a dressing gown and he's eating Weetabix out of what can only be described as a dog, Bo see that?

00:41:03:13 – 00:41:30:06
Is that those little bits of genius? You know what? Now I'm saying these things. Yes, you're right that it separates him from the 1000 DJs alive on Tik Tok at that moment. Know? Yeah, those are things. It's like on a really shit level. This is almost a little bit more wholesome. There's a much shorter version of this where they purposely give incorrect information in the video that everybody would know is correct, so that they go to the comments.

00:41:30:06 – 00:41:53:23
So it might yeah, yeah, yeah. What might be what an example might be during 911 when the three towers went down. So they would say something that would make you comment. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. They know what they're doing, but they know that they need your engagement in order for the video to be successful. So what he's doing is much less offensive thing that to do, isn't it?

00:41:54:00 – 00:42:17:22
I'm just a decent, weird, like eight weeks out of a dog bowl. And now you're here for that. You'll listen to the DJ and you might like it. That is definitely, in a way it's it's amazing. And that. So this is the reason why I do still how to torture social media. I mean though, we've just talking about the kind of the like the vacuous content that we're watching.

00:42:17:24 – 00:42:39:17
There's all these things that, what's the word like the psychology of why we comment on what we comment, why we click on what we click and watch what we watch. It's all, like, proper fascinating to me. I have you heard of a gentleman called Snobby Danger?

00:42:39:19 – 00:43:00:10
Rings a bell. Is he kind of bricklayer or liar of. Yeah, he is. Yeah. He's a quintessential cokehead. That's what I'm not sure of years. But if he will, he's always talking about doing like I was. I like you say, there you go. And he's like, he's that lad culture. He's always grafting. I think he's a plasterer.

00:43:00:12 – 00:43:32:05
He, he drinks. He always kind of has a sip of a beer. Oh, that's a lovely drop. And he. I think he's also into the music scene as well, somehow. So. And then there's your favorite, the I think they're called the family fucking name. And it's the a son and dad who went hugely viral on TikTok over, I think it was in lockdown and they would do, dance routines.

00:43:32:08 – 00:43:57:01
And it is honestly, it is some of the worst things that my eyes have ever seen. But they have Covid a cultivated an audience. He absolutely loves them, much like all the people that we've spoken about. Now, a lot of these people hang on that, you know, let me vent about family. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Come on, dude, you got to move on without letting me talk about.

00:43:57:04 – 00:44:34:10
No no no no no. Yeah, that's Ricky, I'm not doing anything wrong. They just dancing, and it's not even that fucking smile. It's so it's not offensive that what they're doing in comparison to what we've spoken about, that's gone before. They just dancing. They're just having a fun time. They're just creating dance moves that, that the thing is that, that I got, I can't get my head round is so well in sync, but they've, they've been choreographed in, not in the front ring like the brothers and that that, yeah.

00:44:34:12 – 00:44:53:09
Then we put our hands on our hips and we do a little twirl, and it's just not. This is fucking. It's gone too far. They know also what they're doing. They know it rages in rages. People they know. Yeah, smugness is going to. And you know what I do, what do I do I share it I said look at these fuckers again.

00:44:53:11 – 00:45:15:06
That's exactly what they want. Tick tock. Doesn't know the emotion behind why there is a share. It just goes, oh, we better push this video. Lots of people are sharing it, lots of people to comment on it. There isn't. The algorithm isn't going. Why are they all saying that? Like the detestable human beings, they're just seeing zeros and ones, zeros and ones and zeros, the ones that engage the algorithm and perpetuate the video?

00:45:15:06 – 00:45:36:22
Right. And I think, I think a lot of people know that people will comment or share or engage with content more if it makes them angry, like if it makes them happy and stuff. You'll watch it and you might give it a like. But if it makes you angry, you're more likely to share that content. Have you seen this?

00:45:36:24 – 00:45:58:03
Look at their fucking doing. Rather, and then it goes into the WhatsApp group and and stuff like that. So this is why a lot of people are doing it. And while you find a lot of that type of content now, people like I'll just we've spoken about Bebo a lot, so I'll just use him as an example.

00:45:58:05 – 00:46:27:15
Once you've been pigeonholed into the family who dance, Bevo, who eats with two chews and swallows, you cultivate this massive audience. Where do you go from there? You can't, can you? For the next ten years, just dance with your dad in, in, you know, walking down fucking the shopping center and just break into dance and people film it.

00:46:27:21 – 00:47:00:04
Can you for the next 15 years eat and roast potato in two bites? No. And swallow it because you're bored of it, right? They do. They get bored of it in the end. Have to evolve that. That's really interesting point and stay so how about how how do you evolve? What do you do if everyone knows you as the guy that eats or the family that dances, or the fucking start they geezer that does it.

00:47:00:06 – 00:47:24:09
That's obvious to was you. That's easy you know though. So we can we disclose this the conversations that I suppose we can. So we we we had because you know, the last one of us is a show between us two really. And someone else, you know, you talked about potentially talking to other people. Sure. I'm not sure how happy I am about that, but the, the so this is the dynamic of the podcast.

00:47:24:13 – 00:47:47:20
It isn't an interview podcast. It may be could be there could be something. And if some reason Ricky we got contacted by Bevo his girlfriend. Yeah he's you know f model. That's right. And you'll know her if you know Bevo because they make content together and she makes her own spicy content on her. Right? Correct. Yeah. And then you got to receive the Rick.

00:47:47:20 – 00:48:11:23
Then you received a DM. Yeah. And someone had tagged lots anonymous onto a post, another podcast and said, is this, Bevo that you're chatting about? And then his partner followed us. Sent us a DM. And again, at some point we said, like, would you like to come on? Our podcast would be very like to come on the podcast.

00:48:11:23 – 00:48:31:05
They both said, yes, really nice. About it. Just have it, have a just a casual chat and eventually we will get them on the pod or try and do something. You want to do something? Yeah. Just that. Yeah. Just like I think we. I think I'm just trying to see how does it work. Yeah, exactly. How does it work?

00:48:31:09 – 00:48:59:06
How does it fit in with with what we're doing? But, yeah, I would definitely like to have a chat with them. But to go back to your point about, Bevo and his romantic relationship with the off model and evolving, there's a lot of these content creators where it's everything's woven into each other, and I don't know what's real life anymore.

00:48:59:08 – 00:49:22:22
I don't know if people are beefing each other or if they are actually in a relationship. I don't know if they're just doing it to reach out to each other's audiences. I don't know if they are I, I would I would take everything with a pinch of salt. Look, I see that's what I do. Not that bothers. I don't mind if Beaver and and, Miss Isabella Saturday.

00:49:22:24 – 00:49:46:04
Yeah. Sophie. Out. Sophie. Oh, Sophie. I don't, I don't it's fine. Right. I just playing that game in the system that just given themselves a best chance of operating and earning money. Yeah. If you if you have complete faith in the people you're watching on TikTok, then you need to give your head to wobble. There, there, just to generate audience and engagement.

00:49:46:06 – 00:50:11:00
That's it. I mean that. Yeah. You you've hit the nail on the head. And I think people need to be a bit more savvy as to say that. Just imagine that the what you're watching on social media is basically EastEnders. Like things are being created. There are content creator houses, there are stories that are being written that are if you do this, I'll do that.

00:50:11:00 – 00:50:49:12
So whilst people are obviously they do get angry about certain things, attacking people in public for those specific things. It's fucking, it's it's mental man. So when you're watching, these things are like flashes. I would take it with, with a pinch of salt. Now, when you're talking about, pivoting or trying to get away from what you're doing, the, classic case is, the best example I can think of is, the hawk took our.

00:50:49:14 – 00:51:15:24
She is she she said a one liner. She's gone mega viral. And off the back of that, it's kind of like, yeah, I am the hawk a ago, but I'm also a person. And now people are investing. She's got her own podcast he's doing. I don't see online deals. Exactly. Well, I mean, how how do you pivot and how do you keep the longevity of all of this stuff?

00:51:15:24 – 00:51:35:09
Yeah, we maybe you do. I think you need to surround yourself with people that really understand social media. You need a management team that can be able to drain every bit of life out your 15 minutes because. So, so her podcast is, part of the production company for Jake Paul. Yeah. So so there you go. There you go.

00:51:35:09 – 00:52:08:02
I think it's about that, that, getting the right people around you, the PR knowing where to pivot, knowing what to do and not like just doing fucking anything. Just if you throw enough shit, some will stick that type of thing. So I think that, it's hard, man, because you imagine you've spent all this time for the last two years, you've cultivated an audience because, I don't know, you do something mental like you stamp on dog shit and everyone's like, that's really funny.

00:52:08:04 – 00:52:31:24
And then you're getting paid for doing that. And then where do you go from there? It's really hard to kind of move on from that. And most, most people on TikTok, that's that's what you'd imagine. Yeah. And those are people, the kind of have a plan, a content plan of what they might want to produce in the future, the ones that give themselves the best chance, like pros try to do it like, you see that you said, I want to stop, but I want to see potatoes in front of a camera, he said.

00:52:31:24 – 00:52:55:00
He said he eats during the dinner. Yeah, but he's got a real I don't care what you what he likes. Just give us the dinner content. That's what we want. I'll give you a good example, because in this industry I obviously don't know much about social media industry, but the work that I work in, I've got to hate the word, but but, you know, I guess it's, fucking.

00:52:55:02 – 00:53:14:14
I'm not going to say it football media. And I was going to say influencer. Right. That's right. But these people are essentially they the what that all that means is that can you put a brand in front of your audience? Yeah. And will they engage with it. So in in for, for for me and you on this podcast, you might have heard an 81 read, right?

00:53:14:16 – 00:53:36:06
Yeah. If you're getting paid that essentially makes you an influencer. Rich, why the fuck have you just said that? What would you what else to say? I'm telling you what the facts are now. Okay, okay. Oh, 41 bit prophetic. And it started my career as an influencer. You know, but that's what it is, is can you put can you put a brand that works?

00:53:36:06 – 00:53:57:23
Can you make content that people enjoy and are your audience okay with you attaching that brand? Or if you can do that, you're all right. Yeah, yeah. And you can you can make a career out of it because people they may buy AG one. Yeah, they like the podcast and go, yeah, I'm going to do the boys a favor and use that code, right.

00:53:58:00 – 00:54:17:03
Yeah. But with Beaver he doesn't have that. He doesn't have a relationship with the audience. They don't like him. So they're not going to go to the link that he sends them. Yeah. What he has got is to create a program in TikTok which gives him it gives him, money based on the amount of using it and how.

00:54:17:04 – 00:54:38:02
Yeah, yeah, his video does. Right. So that's his relationship is with TikTok is not with the audience. They audience fucking love him. Right. So the I tell you and I'm getting I'm getting around to my point here is that I know a guy who had a YouTube channel, massive, massive, massive YouTube channel. And it was, he's doing fee for content.

00:54:38:04 – 00:55:01:00
Oh, yeah. So when YouTube and free for content sort of exploded together. Yeah. He had 3 million subscribers and he was doing Jimmy. Yeah, he was doing was fucking weighty. Yeah. He was making decent money out of. He's making he's unpacking I don't really I've never played, I don't play FIFA so I don't know Ultimate team I know what ultimate team is but I don't understand the nuances of it.

00:55:01:00 – 00:55:21:13
Right. But he was, pitching players for his team and and he was watching and people were watching like it was getting 200,000 people watch it because they invested, they pay fee for his part of the community. Anyway, he was sick of it. He didn't want to do it anymore. So he went traveling and he turned his channel into a travel blog.

00:55:21:15 – 00:55:53:24
His audience went from having 200 300,000 views to six, and his channel absolutely died. No. Yeah. And he didn't want to do it anymore. But he realized that the audience weren't there for him. They were there for the type of content he was making. And that's. Yeah. So that's for beavers. Beavers go back. Go back to is he in potatoes or finding funding something that creates the same same sense of engagement.

00:55:54:01 – 00:56:22:08
Now it's different from Ed Matthews and his ticket okay. Right. They're problematic guys. Yeah. But people are invested in them. They like them for whatever reason, whether that's good or bad. They like them. And I think the reason why they like them is because we're coming out of or perhaps still in the middle of an A, a era where it was less okay to be masculine in the conventional sense than it was previously.

00:56:22:10 – 00:56:49:10
You said at the top, top of the show, toxic masculinity. Yeah. Which people actually attach to any type of masculinity. If a man uses his strength and behaves in a way that is typical to a masculine man of old, then somebody, someone, somewhere would go, that's toxic masculinity, right? What they do is had they. But against all of that, I need to behave in this way mentality.

00:56:49:10 – 00:57:06:24
You need to, you need to behave in a way that's according to how likely I am to be offended by the way you behave. Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. So. So if you want me, if you don't want to get canceled, you need to behave our I want you to behave. And after a while, people are like fucking.

00:57:06:24 – 00:57:22:15
I'm sick of that. I don't want to. I'm going to be who I want to be. And if you get offended, fuck yourself. That kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So while people felt that they weren't able to say that because and this is all really kind of pseudo socialism, right. Sociology. Yeah. I'm just guessing here. Right.

00:57:22:15 – 00:57:46:02
But people got fed up of being told that they were offensive or the way they lived. If you're a man and you're you're a net negative just by. Yeah. Because you got a cock, you're just you're worse than all women. You know, it meant many things that you got grouped up on it that you just weren't allowed to to operate in the way that you normally operate for fear of being canceled.

00:57:46:04 – 00:58:08:21
These two guys come along and they're like, the opposite of all of that. Yeah. And if you're not happy to speak about it and say you're just more mildly frustrated by it all, you're watching these two guys play out in front of you, and you can do so from the safety behind of TikTok and Instagram, where they're saying all the things that you want to say, yeah, but you don't have to, your your neck isn't on the line.

00:58:08:21 – 00:58:31:21
It's theirs. Yeah, yeah. They don't give a fuck. Yeah. And that's powerful stuff. But whatever you like or not, for a lot of people, that's really powerfully empowering in a negative way perhaps. And that's why they're so successful. Right. We don't want my daughter to go anywhere near them. Fuck no. Absolutely not. No. But do I enjoy the way that the way they operate in this new world we find ourselves in?

00:58:31:21 – 00:58:58:02
Yeah. Because it's it's it's anti-establishment and that's what people gravitate to that is that fucking. That's really interesting, man. The way a lot of time thinking about takes off. Yes. It has too much time. Just to wrap this convo up. I say quickly, I wonder how quickly we can do is cancel culture like you were saying about them too?

00:58:58:04 – 00:59:31:18
And, the stuff they say people can try to tend to, try and cancel them. Do you see that there is a trend where cancel culture is getting canceled itself, where people are more bold with how they're behaving, what they're doing, and less people are being canceled? Or can you still be canceled? You can if you're in a that's again, this is just my opinion, right?

00:59:31:18 – 00:59:40:24
Yeah. You can if you put yourself in a position where you've,

00:59:41:01 – 00:59:58:15
What you've if you're if you're of a pious nature or if you say if you if you like to cast stones, other people if you like to demand a or, you know, virtual signal and say, this is the way people need to behave, if you're saying you're holier than thou than thou, then you need to behave in a way.

00:59:58:17 – 01:00:24:00
So, it's easier to explain them why at Matthews and his tickets or you cannot be canceled, or Joe Rogan cannot be canceled. It's because they're not claiming to be anything other than what they are. What are you going to do? Who who who is their audience? Their audience is 18 to 30 young men who don't give a shit about cancel culture.

01:00:24:02 – 01:00:53:09
So they're going, cancel Ed Matthews. You're not his audience, and his audience is not going to cancel him. So you. So it means nothing. But if you're the leader of a church or your coven, can't think of a right example, but someone, someone who tells, you know, the leader of a lefty active movement. Yeah. And then you're shown to not live by the rules you're asking other people to live by.

01:00:53:11 – 01:01:14:17
Then in that instance, it's possible because their audiences is the ones that. Right. They walk away. So what is it about the did you remember, who is it getting canceled? Those people getting canceled were not speaking on Gaza. Yes. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, we're on following them. I can't remember what the movement was called. Right. You all you've all done your movement.

01:01:14:19 – 01:01:35:02
You've all got really happy yourself. Yeah. We can we can cancel George Clooney or whatever. Whoever it was Tim. Kind of. Yeah. And they lost a million followers on Instagram, which is a lot. But it's not. Yeah. It's nothing. So my answer is, thankfully, I think we're seeing the end. I think it's passing. That was do you know.

01:01:35:02 – 01:02:04:16
Well I, I couldn't of, put that better myself and I hadn't even thought about it in those terms, but, that was quality. So yeah, it wasn't really. Yeah, it was because it's made me understand about different types of audiences and stuff like that and, and who it can be canceled and and. Yeah. And what people weren't easy because that wasn't, you know, doing the right they're trying to do the right thing mostly you'd imagine.

01:02:04:18 – 01:02:31:15
Yeah. But you know for sure if you, if you it's like it's like if you, if you weren't working for. It you know what I've said enough. Right. Okay. We are gonna be jumping into dilemmas and something only you and I. Dilemma is called. Should I stay or should I go now? And something only you know is called a dinner on my lap.

01:02:31:17 – 01:03:01:13
The topic for next week. Flav has already mentioned the name. We're going to be talking about OnlyFans now. This is a topic that is earning in the media and on social at the moment, mainly down to to, content creators. Would you call them? No, I mean, yes, but not in the way that you think. They just don't want to say porn stars or I don't want to say the sexualize it.

01:03:01:13 – 01:03:22:00
So I'm a content creator for what? OnlyFans is making porn. You mentioned porn, right? Yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right. Yeah they. Yeah yeah porn stars. But let's face it, there's a desire to not call them that. And it's like, that's what you're making pornography and all power too. Anyway, let's talk about that next. What you all power to either.

01:03:22:02 – 01:03:44:00
But yeah. So there's there's a couple of yeah there's a couple of women that are getting a lot of airtime at the moment because one wants to break the record of sleeping with something like a thousand people in a day. They've already done like 200 in a day. You know, there's a lot of that, that kind of chat that's going around at the moment.

01:03:44:06 – 01:04:08:17
And, the doctor. But listen. Yeah, he's still listening to his voice. Yes. Come on. What is it? Actually, anybody who feels that they can answer this, what is the what is the is there any lasting damage to having a thousand dicks in a day? Like, is it a shitty doubt? Is we're not designed for that. So if you're I'd imagine like if I was.

01:04:08:17 – 01:04:14:15
Yeah. If I couldn't check a thousand words in the day.

01:04:14:17 – 01:04:34:18
Yeah. You're right. Yeah, yeah. That would even if it was just one one, one one. Even if it was a thousand frost. I think a pregnant day. Yeah. So I'm curious to know that. Is that is that just in the spirit of this TikTok conversation? Because you see, you know, content on TikTok, you talking about what's the name?

01:04:34:20 – 01:04:57:02
Bonnie. Yeah. Bonnie Blue, I think it is or something. So. But is it is this again more of the same? Is it is it real? Is she actually going to sleep with a thousand people, or is it wind ups? Well, we will go, I mean, the, the I listen to podcasts and when I give you the quotes, direct quotes, you do this.

01:04:57:03 – 01:05:19:09
What she said, I'll do it next week. It is insane. It is literally insane. I could not believe what I was hearing. I was that taken aback. It takes a lot for me to to be shocked, but this was utterly shocking. So we will do that topic next week. Okay, when you hear this, I, I can't wait to see your face.

01:05:19:11 – 01:05:42:16
So the dilemma that we've got coming up, should I stay or should I go now? And we're going to listen to that now. So, just tired. You got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad, cause pain will be a aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky and flat bed.

01:05:42:18 – 01:06:13:12
Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve be. Relax. You're safe here to get nice warm between breaking and. Should I stay or should I go now? Should I say I. Should I go? It's such a shame. So my mum planned a Christmas holiday for herself, my little sister and me this year in the Netherlands.

01:06:13:14 – 01:06:36:03
Both of them are looking forward to it. But I really couldn't give a shit. I really don't feel like going on holiday for seven days, and I wouldn't mind missing it altogether. He's gone past his mum and his sister. So his son is mum and his sister. No no no just him. Yeah. His mum and his sister. Yes.

01:06:36:03 – 01:07:14:00
A mum and the two kids. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So. And to Amsterdam, going to Amsterdam. Netherlands. Netherlands. Oh Netherlands. Okay. Netherlands for seven days. How old is past it hasn't it. Okay. For the past three years, I don't spend that much time with my mum. And it's not because I don't want to. But every time I spend more than a few days with her, she starts to get on my nerves and makes snippy comments about me, about the hotel we're staying in, about the service we're getting, about the location we're staying in.

01:07:14:02 – 01:07:36:21
Is it out of order for me to make my excuses and cancel? What should I do? Do you cancel the holiday for seven days? Not to Netherlands with your mum and your sister. And they're looking forward to it. They've got no idea. It's not a holiday, is it? You just go into another country of people. He knows it's not a holiday.

01:07:36:21 – 01:07:57:19
Holiday. It's supposed to be enjoyable. I'm with him. I love I absolutely love, love, love, love, love my mum. But if I've got to go to Netherlands and let's call it Amsterdam. Yeah, she's the last person to that. If I want to go with it. Isn't. That's not what that's for. That's not Amsterdam for. Let's look at me, mum.

01:07:57:21 – 01:08:24:14
Anyway, this is the Netherlands. I if it was me, I just go, I just go and just see it out. And it might be better to think, but I understand what what what what you said. What you think I mean, I yeah, I, I have, you know, great relationship with my mum and going to Netherlands for seven days would be I would love that absolute nothing better than I would love to do.

01:08:24:16 – 01:08:50:21
But yeah, again, if people, people have very different relationships with their parents and if you are around them for a lot longer than the few days and they are starting to get on, you make and they are just tearing you down as a person, tearing you down as a, you know, your character, you don't really want that toxic kind of stuff in your life, even though they're your mum and that's your sister because your family, you should go.

01:08:50:23 – 01:09:14:02
But what I would say and, to hear these words that you only get one mum and you only get one dad and that time that when that time passes and they're no longer with you all, you going to look back on your life? And, guy, I wish I'd fucking just gone to Netherlands. Yeah, I wish when she was getting a snippet, me, I just went, I'm gonna leave you guys for a couple of hours.

01:09:14:02 – 01:09:30:15
I'm just going to the local boozer. I need. I need a pint. I need to get away. I need to go and do whatever. Take yourself out of that situation and just say I need some me time and then go back, wait for it to calm down a bit, and then go again because you are never going to get that time back with your parents.

01:09:30:15 – 01:09:53:21
And when that time comes, it's going to be rubbish and you don't want to look back on your life. And with regret and say, I wish, yeah, I wish I'd done that. Yeah. So that's what my fucking tell her. She's being annoying like me when my dad goes, he has a propensity to moan. Moan about things I say that is, I'll say I've a daughter at a house party, home.

01:09:53:23 – 01:10:16:07
Yeah. I just I don't want to be there. The 16 year old kids puking in the garden and that, God. Yeah. So I stay with that, which is nice. I had a really, really good time. I we just chilled out, drank some whiskey, watch birds. You know, it was all fun. Sunday morning, I'll come down, you know, know the political programs on my Angemon and,

01:10:16:09 – 01:10:35:20
Yeah, yeah, there's a lady who does it now as well. Yeah. My dad gets so angry watching these things, and he knows he gets angry, and. And I'm like that. It's 10:00 in the morning and you're watching this. By 11:00, you're going to be fuming. That's how you want to start your Sunday? Yes. He goes out to make a cup of tea.

01:10:35:20 – 01:10:57:07
Fucking pauses it so he doesn't miss any. He's paused live TV so doesn't miss any of the rage. And, I say to him like he's moaning. He minds about stuff all the time. Is are you going to fucking? We drove to Bicester Village about six months ago. Yeah. And he he got in the car, started moaning and didn't stop till about.

01:10:57:09 – 01:11:13:14
But we were about half an hour into general and dad I can't we're in the car for another hour. You've got to stop moaning. You've got to say anything that's positive. I don't, I'm not having this conversation because it's exhausting, right? Yeah, yeah. The point is, if you don't address it, you don't want to spend time together. Oh you don't, you might.

01:11:13:14 – 01:11:27:07
So you got to fucking stop us. Oh, man. It's, Don't get me started. When he's when he has a is if he is a female commentator on the football. I'm not,

01:11:27:09 – 01:11:46:00
On the side. I'm just saying, bio for, at the caf before for a I'm having a conversation. It would just it would just veer into something. And then he knows that I'm getting a bit. Aggie. Yeah. And then you get a bit snake behavior, but he just, it's just it's, you know what? Why am I doing this?

01:11:46:02 – 01:12:07:03
Blah, blah, blah, blah. But for this person, anyway, I would just go on the holiday, bite your tongue, leave when you need to because you ain't going to get this time back. Now we are going to go onto something only you know, and it is called dinner on my lap.

01:12:07:05 – 01:12:14:14
Wow. Something, you know.

01:12:14:16 – 01:12:34:21
Highlights. Thought I'd share my experience I had with my ex back in the day. Me and my girlfriend at the time had been seeing each other for around six months. Everything was going well, sex life was great, and we were getting on well together. When we got to the dirty stuff, she would always refrain from sucking me off.

01:12:34:23 – 01:13:01:23
When I confronted her about this, she said she had a traumatic experience with her ex fella and said she didn't feel comfortable doing it, which is fair enough. When she came round to mine to have dinner with my family for some unknown reason, we would always go straight to my room to fuck it was like clockwork. I was 15 at the time and my parents knew exactly what we were getting up to and let me crack on.

01:13:02:00 – 01:13:25:15
He's put in brackets fucking legends. She then raised the question, do you want me to suck it? I almost jumped out of my skin and said yes. She began. She began to knock me off and everything was going well. Then all of a sudden I felt my knob go really hot. My hands were behind my head, staring at my ceiling.

01:13:25:17 – 01:13:57:00
Come on. I heard her jump off and run to the run to the toilet as I sat up, I've seen a pile of the dinner we just eaten all on my lap. Oh my lord. And over my brand new Hugo Boss. Not the shorts she threw up. I was in the bathroom for a solid ten minutes and came back reeking of Listerine and was a bit shaken up due to her past experiences.

01:13:57:02 – 01:14:24:20
I confronted her and said everything is okay and I was in love with her. Looking back at it now, it was pretty fucking rank and that is something only I know. I'm. She knows well, Genius. Yeah. What I don't understand. She was a bit traumatized in the past experiences, but wasn't that traumatic enough? Apparently, she's, she's gone for a bit over DC, and she and the.

01:14:24:22 – 01:14:43:06
Oh, yeah. Yeah, and she's just eaten, so obviously that the food's in her stomach, so she's just spit up all over his cock. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, God, man, can you just the hot feeling on your lap and on your dick. What is that? Something was happening that was so nice. And then what is that? Pull off.

01:14:43:06 – 01:15:08:24
Pull or swim? Yeah. Pull. Go. And, thank you for sending nine guys. We, I speak to a lot of people on social, and they're always like, I'm going to send someone in. I'm going to send something in. If you're holding back on stories of something and you know, please send them in, because we're running thin now and we're getting to the bottom of the barrel, and we'll just knock this feature on the head.

01:15:08:24 – 01:15:32:03
If nothing's coming in, which is fine. You want. So. So. Yeah, exactly. And I spoke to a lot of you and you guys loved this feature. So if you are hiding anything, if you are sitting on anything, please send in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read out your stories now for next week. We are going to be talking about OnlyFans.

01:15:32:05 – 01:15:56:13
So if you know somebody who's got an only fan, if you have any stories, if you've done any content with someone else, have a great idea. God. So we'll do a special things only on only you know. If you want to know about the only fans that you subscribe to. Okay, what is our audience already? It's probably about 8% men.

01:15:56:15 – 01:16:14:20
Yes, I'd say so. Yeah, there is a bit more. There is. Got to be at least ten of you little dirty buggers listening to this. More than that, probably. But yeah, yeah, yeah. We want to know exactly who, why and what it is they've got. That's great. Leave your name. Don't say anything. Just type in. What what it is.

01:16:14:22 – 01:16:37:14
Just curious. So what we would give them only. Yeah. We would never, ever read their names out. But. Yeah, I'd like to see where. I'd like to see who and why that you're following this person. And then until next time, we will see you next Monday. Until next time. But we'll see you next Monday. It's not very good.

01:16:37:14 – 01:16:56:13
Outro. Is it? Well, well outside. You want to just say next twice in the same sentence I guess, right. Okay. If it was, if it was right in the time the sentence if you wrote it down, you wouldn't do that would you? So why would you say no? I just panicked because it's the end of a podcast. And I've wanted to, realize we've been recording, but let's just go.

01:16:56:13 – 01:17:14:00
Ricky, I've. I've been recording podcasts since 2011, and I still don't know how to do it outright. It's horrible. You don't think about it, you get to the end and it just has to say something. And then it's just press stop. Someone might have sent.

01:17:14:02 – 01:17:22:01
I've lost the jingle. Oh, I oh, this is this is the worst ending of.

01:17:22:03 – 01:17:48:08
This, stick up for that. What is panicking now? Right. Okay, I've got it, I got it. Good. The night hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet. Midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as we like to speak.

01:17:48:10 – 01:17:55:22
And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.