#154 | U.K Social Media Ban | The Kids Aren’t Alright

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Ricky: Am I mad or… i'd Like, my kids, they are going to see Harry Styles today.

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Ricky: They're going to see him at Wembley.

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Flav: Water, bail and sugar, ha.

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Ricky: he's got He has got some bangers, you know.

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Flav: yeah No, no, no, I rate him.

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Ricky: Really?

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Flav: I mean, i wouldn't never I'd never sort of sit down and I'm gonna listen to Harry Styles' album, but my missus loves him, and she plays him in the car quite a lot.

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Ricky: Really?

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Flav: So, yeah, and i have a I've got a lot of time for a couple of these albums, actually.

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Ricky: Right, fair enough. um And i got so I got the girls a ticket, got my missus a ticket, didn't get myself a ticket.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: I don't i don't want to go and watch Harry Styles. don't want to pay extortionate money to go and see Harry, right?

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Flav: No.

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Ricky: um

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Flav: No.

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Ricky: Previously, we went to go and see Ed Sheeran at Wembley. I drove down there. There was mad traffic jams, right? So had to make a decision. I said to the girls, you've got to get out the car now on this main road. You can walk to Wembley in 40 minutes and you won't miss the gig.

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Ricky: And everyone was panicking and i was like, like ah just chill, right? I'll miss the gig. I'll do the running and all that. look I'll park up at this someone's fucking house that I've booked the car parking space for.

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Ricky: So they went off and done that. I got through the traffic jam, parked up in this insane spot. i' like I wish I'd taken photos because the parking was immense. And then I ran from like the foot of a hill all the way up to Wembley, got in, scanned my ticket.

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Ricky: And as i was shimmy shimmering, shimmering, shim, shim, shim,

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Flav: Shimmering.

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Ricky: not shimmering shimming shimming yeah that uh across the seats to get to my family the curtain dropped and ed sheeran started playing i was pouring the sweat they were crying because i made it on time and i was like fucking hell thank god for that so stressful, strat anxiety ridden.

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Flav: Shimmering. Shimmering.

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Ricky: It was fucking horrible.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: We enjoyed the gig. We had a lovely time. Put that to the back of our mind. We got back to the car on the way home. The car breaks down. We end up in a garden center in Watford, in a car park, pitch black,

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Ricky: And the pickup didn't get to us for three hours. So three o'clock in the morning, all three girls are asleep in the car. I'm staying awake because like I'm a geezer and I need to like punch people if they come to the car.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: And then they picked us up and we got home at something like half past four in the morning. But we've got that PTSD, right?

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: So it's scary. We don't want any of that shit to happen. We want we won it.

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Flav: Let's get a train.

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Ricky: Yeah, well, I mean, but then the train on the way back, you know what it's like trying to get a train out of Wembley and then trying to get back to Milton Keynes. It's fucking horrendous.

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Flav: right Right. On a weekday, you'd be all right, I think. but For football day, terrible. I think you'd be all right.

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Ricky: And England's playing as well. So lot of pissed up people on the trains.

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Flav: Maybe, maybe, yeah, yeah.

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Ricky: So it's trying to contend with all of that, really. So in the end, it's kind of like my decision has been, I'm going to, we're going to leave early to avoid traffic.

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Ricky: going to go down there, park up. I'm going to be with them until they go into the stadium at like half past five.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: And then I've got nothing to do until 11 o'clock. I'm just going to be walking around Wembley.

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Flav: Apart from England. watching lego There's another a game at six, I think.

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Ricky: Well, um there there is, wi but England kicks off at nine. So from five, I've got…

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Flav: that okay bu

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Ricky: Oh, is there really?

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Flav: ah don't know I don't know. don't know. Yeah, and I mean, this is mental. What you're saying to me is crazy.

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Ricky: I know. Yeah.

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Flav: You're making all of the wrong decisions.

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Ricky: what what What would you have done…

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Flav: Nothing. Just go, gi go girls. Here's your tickets. I'll see you later. I'll pick you up from the station at like one in the morning when you get back.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: Why are you driving? I don't understand why you're driving them.

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Ricky: Because I think it's that whole anxiety thing from last time. And if we do get caught in traffic again, they can leg it out the car. And at ah least I've got the car. Like my daughter is obsessed with Harry and she she cannot miss this gig.

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Flav: but She doesn't have to mix it. Just leave at five in the afternoon. They can get some dinner in London, get on a train.

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: It's a 45-minute train journey. You're adding, like, element… I mean, less ah less stress last time because you've a reliable car now, right? But, ah yeah, I think your decision-making as a family here is flawed because ah you're involved in a big, big way, and I don't understand.

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Ricky: yeah

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Flav: Why what about why can't Donna drive down?

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Ricky: but i don't know i don't know i have put this to her uh and

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Flav: She literally drives for a living.

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Ricky: Right, she does. And then I said this to her.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: And then I started laughing because I said, have you sorted parking out? we You've got 48 hours until the gig you're not sorted parking. um She kind of raised her eyebrows at me.

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Ricky: Then I spoke to her about driving. And then she was like, fine, I'll fucking drive myself and blah, bla blah, blah. was like, right, right, okay, fine. like There was a bit of vague there because I was like laughing at the situation that nothing had been decided yet.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: Um, and then five minutes later, she's like, can, can you come with us? And I was like, yeah, I can, I can.

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Flav: Oh, that's a good… You're good.

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Ricky: but I don't want them to be stressed, man.

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Flav: That's a good husband.

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Ricky: I'd rather take, ah you know, when it's like safety in numbers.

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Flav: I don't know where where… I don't understand where the stress is coming from. Just get on a train. At five o'clock. it's at You'll be in London in 45 minutes. Where's the train station from your house?

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Ricky: it's a twelve minute walk

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Flav: you You're mad. You're mad. This is… you're i don't ah The only thing i'd kind of get is you don't want the kids being on a train, especially when I was 12.

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Ricky: 12, yeah. 12 and 14.

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Flav: I kind of understand like not wanting them to come back, in which in which case you could drive to go and pick them up if you really wanted to. But getting there is a piece of piss on the train.

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Flav: it's like You're making it as hard as possible.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: How long does take to drive to with Wembley's sort of northwest?

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Ricky: It's probably…

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Flav: That's not too bad from Wembley.

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Ricky: Yeah, so it's like an hour and 15 minutes, but probably with traffic and stuff like that, it might be a little bit more. But there's…

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Flav: What time you leaving? All

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Ricky: Maybe four o'clock or something like that.

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Flav: right, so it probably take you a couple of hours of traffic.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: And what time does it get to start?

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Ricky: Well, Shania Twain, the support act is on at 6.55.

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Flav: I can't miss that.

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: ah Yeah, i wrote it's up to you, Rick. I take you on the train and then I'll meet. I'll come pick you up. That's what I would do. That would be my bargaining.

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Ricky: Yeah, it's, um but yeah, have you like coming out of Wembley late at night when there are thousands of people and you're, you're kind of like, you go with a flow of football and you're dragged to different stations and you don't know where the station is. Your phone doesn't work. Maps doesn't work because everyone's trying to use their phone.

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Ricky: And it's a fucking nightmare. And then when you get to the station that you need to, the queues are mental. And then when you get on the trains, you're herded on like sardines in a can. And then you have to slowly make your way out of Wembley to the main a train line. And then when you get there, you've got like an hour and 10 minimum train back to Milton Keynes because it stops at every station.

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Ricky: It will be packed and there'll be loads of pissed up people. And it's just kind of like, I don't know if I want the girls in that.

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Flav: Yeah, go and pick them up. They can go on their own.

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Ricky: Yeah, I might.

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Flav: Then you are you don't have to wait around for five hours doing nothing.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: And you can't even have a drink. You've drive back.

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Ricky: No, I know. It's the worst bit of it

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Flav: sounds to yeah so yeah Yeah, I mean, it's up to you. Your your decisions, you're a grown man, you do what you want, but…

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Ricky: it. Why don't you? Are you in?

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Flav: No text on her. you want me to text on her?

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Ricky: and yeah Are you in?

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Flav: Yeah,

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Ricky: Are you in London today?

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Ricky: What are you doing?

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Flav: yeah, for the game. A week, mate. um um I don't actually have to be on set till 8 o'clock.

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Ricky: Oh, fucking hell.

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Flav: yeah I mean, say I'm in London today, um I'll be arriving in London around probably about half six.

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Ricky: Right, okay. We'll pick this up but off air.

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Flav: Do you want All right, yeah, OK.

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Ricky: But, um yeah, okay, so I've made a decision and…

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Flav: We can get some food if you want. I'm meeting and James as well, relatively early, think.

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Ricky: Oh.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: All right, good. Yeah.

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Ricky: Sweet. Right, let's let run this run the ah just run the jingle then. Sort it.

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Flav: Bye-bye.

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Ricky: Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous, it's episode 154. I'm Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates, one main topic, we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature, something only you know, and everything remains anonymous, always, so sit back, relax and enjoy the pod.

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Ricky: How are you Flav? Are

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Flav: I'm all right. Yeah, a bit like, just a bit humid and uncomfortable, I would say.

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Ricky: you hot and bothered?

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Flav: I fucking hate the wall. I hate the summer, really. I like the sunshine, but I don't ever feel comfortable when it's it's humid. or I can't believe you've got a hat on. I just…

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Ricky: the The reason why is because I have, um there's a thing in our house where which we refer to as de-fluffing and I haven't had a beard trim, tash, my head shaved or anything like that.

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Flav: You haven't shaved red, All

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Flav: right.

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Flav: Oh, gotcha.

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Ricky: So like let me just show like let me just show you.

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Flav: sir

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Ricky: this is and i know I know you like to see this. It's a showcase of how bald, I actually am.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: It's fucking crazy. Now, hang on a second.

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Flav: It's like, where how did you have, how did you manage to have a haircut for so long?

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Flav: How did you manage to have a haircut for so long, Rick?

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Ricky: I don't know.

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Flav: but

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Ricky: i really don't know. That is fucking bad, isn't it?

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Flav: Was your dad bald?

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Ricky: You are?

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Flav: Your dad's bald, isn't he?

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Ricky: Yeah, he is bulgey. And he's got the side bits. My granddad had those side bits as well. i can't just grow out side bits, can I? ah like bit Imagine being 43 and just having those side bits around.

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Flav: No.

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Ricky: like You just can't. So so but I've been lazy and I've not been shaving. So ah for the video of…

00:10:36.27
Flav: Gotcha. Why um why don't you have one of those hair systems if you've not seen them?

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Ricky: I have seen them. ah Do you know what? Have you have you been…

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Flav: They actually look amazing. like They look like normal hair. they're not um mean It's a wig, but it's not it's like new.

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Ricky: Yeah, it's a lot of maintenance though, isn't

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Flav: so

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Flav: How much time do just straighten your hair?

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Ricky: It's true.

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Flav: How much maintenance is involved? aren't I

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Ricky: don't know, if you go like what happens if you go in the shower and shit like that? Do you not have to like re-slap it on or something?

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Flav: i don't think i think stays on for three months, and then you go and and you get it sorted for another three months.

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Ricky: Have you been following the story of Katie Price and her new husband?

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Flav: course not.

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Ricky: Right. So Katie Price has got this new husband. I don't really know much about the story, but he ah he lives in Dubai.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: He's got businesses is in Dubai. He's supposed to be coming over to England to to visit her. And every time they make an arrangement, something comes up and he can't visit.

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Ricky: Business comes up. He's a businessman.

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Flav: Well, this is what makes the news. The fact that you can't ever…

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Ricky: Yeah, so he he was supposed to be on is it that Good Morning TV program.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: i've don't know what it's called. um And Katie Price just went there on her own and he called up at the last minute saying, I'm at the airport.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: um I can't come. Something's come up.

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Flav: this is this how Is this because she tells that that that's what's happened? She mentions that this is what's happened.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah. shes yeah yeah she She wears her heart on her sleeve.

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Flav: Oh. So I wondering how would the…

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Ricky: She tells you everything.

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Flav: Right, okay.

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Ricky: um And it's now he has gone missing.

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Flav: What?

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Ricky: He's gone missing. No one knows where he is. and She received a text message to say that he's been arrested. And then he sent his like live location and he was being held on the border of Dubai and something else.

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Ricky: Anyway, he's been gone for a week and no one knows where he is. We don't know if he's in prison.

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Flav: He's definitely got another woman. He's got another family something like that.

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Ricky: All this stuff. You are…

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Flav: I reckon he's got another family or something like that.

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Ricky: ive I've got no idea.

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Flav: Why you would he date one of the most sort of well-known famous people in England if he has? He's beyond me. Sorry, go on, carry on. What's the story?

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Ricky: And then ah he, and then he's, you know, he's been found and he he did a video update yesterday and he posted it. He's got new air. He's got, where'd that air come from?

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Flav: What? What? wo

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Ricky: He's got one of those fucking air systems, hasn't he?

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Flav: but did Is that where he's been?

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Ricky: I don't But it's a fucking massive elaborate lie to say that you've been arrested, you've been held hostage, you've had a hood over your head, you've had cable ties around your wrists and all that lot, and he comes back, he's got new hair.

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Flav: What?

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Flav: is it Is he saying that so much time has passed since he's been in the public eye that his hair's just grown naturally?

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Ricky: There's, mate, that is not a nachi. No way.

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Flav: I'm just having a look now.

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Ricky: He's fucking, he's got a hair system.

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Flav: captured at gunpoint.

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Ricky: See?

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Flav: You would have to be like the geezer's mad obviously but then he's going with Katie Price so of course he's fucking mental.

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Ricky: Yeah, I think it's about, I think it's a like sixth or seventh marriage.

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Flav: I mean, it would be unbearable. It would be an unbearable experience, existence, wouldn't it? It would it would be like being married to Katie Price would be um as unbearable as it would be being married to Olivia Ratwood.

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Ricky: Yeah. Oh God, both, both.

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Flav: Yeah. If someone said to me, you have to suck a dick for the rest of your life or be married to one of those two women, show me the dick.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah. Get me those dicks. Line them up.

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Flav: give me line them up right now not only that I'm going to look like I'm enjoying this anything it's and and and the thing is it's almost like it's

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Ricky: Loads of them. Yeah. Hmm.

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Flav: like what she's done to herself, the amount of plastic surgery. And I know this comes from essentially a career of being known simply for the way you look.

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Ricky: o

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Flav: So it's inevitable that this sort of thing might happen to someone. um And, you know, you're having to deal with the idea that we all have to deal with, with the idea of getting older.

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Flav: um When looks fade, you know, you, you, what's left is who you are as a person. And sometimes, know, just force yourself to go through this stuff, painful experience, um, work done on, on your body.

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Flav: She's got ridiculously big fake boobs.

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Ricky: yeah they say Yeah, they are like…

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Flav: They look, they look awful.

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Ricky: Yeah, it's insane.

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Flav: Um, ah So, and this bright white teeth, like why anyone would do that or so or think that looks nice is beyond me. I don't know.

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Ricky: i would like to see you with a pair of big Nashers, like Klopp.

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Flav: I wouldn't run wouldn't mind of being a bit whiter, but not fucking like turkey teeth.

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: why You look fucking out of your mind.

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: Poor woman.

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Ricky: ah um Before we get into it, ah first of all, I want to say thank you to all the kind, wonderful and supportive messages from the last podcast featuring Jack, Father's Day and his journey on becoming a father. we've We've had loads and I believe I've replied to most, if not all of them. um and shown jack as well because you you guys were saying to like make sure that jack knows and he does know and he does know how much uh he's loved and how much um him sharing his story has helped other people that are on a similar journey so thank you very much to everyone that's got in touch um we are also going to go on to don't listen i've no idea what this is again

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Ricky: Keep sending them in. Keep sending them in.

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Flav: Okay.

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Ricky: It's your chance to get on the podcast.

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Flav: okay

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Ricky: We've got no idea what you're going send in Send it in ladsanonpod at gmail.com. Make sure you label it as don't listen so I don't accidentally listen. And you are going to hear that right now.

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Ricky: ah

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Ricky: ah

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Ricky: ah dear he may so that Oh,

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Flav: Oh, that's a belter. In Michigan, then they, they, they. Really?

00:17:21.85
Ricky: That is a crossover from the Fighting Cock podcast, whereas that there's a running joke that I have slept with Daniel Levy, our old chairman, to to make sure we get transfers over the line.

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Flav: Transverse.

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Ricky: And I meet up with him in a travel lodge yeah in Watford and he has his wicked way with me. So thank you for that. That's a very good impression of, um hang on a sec.

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Flav: of me doing it a prison yeah no that's you but so he's he's shagging you and you're just going Daniel daniels can't remember now

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Ricky: If it's saying Daniel, that that would be me, right? ah Right. Okay. That's me. Yeah. Getting right. Yeah. Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel. Oh, good. Good. I hope my mom's listening to this one. Perfect. Right. Do you know what the topic is today?

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Ricky: The topic is social media ban for under-16s. So the social media ban for under-16s, Australia and Indonesia already have it.

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Flav: Yep. yep

00:18:19.26
Ricky: I believe New Zealand have too. The UK, Denmark and Malaysia have made announcements. And France, Germany, Italy and China have restrictions on already.

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Ricky: So this is what the UK government have put out. Social media to be banned for under 16s in landmark government move to ah to give kids their childhood to back.

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Ricky: Social media platforms to be blocked from offering services to under sixteen to marking a line in the sand and setting a new normal for future generations. UK will go further to protect kids with world leading additional restrictions on harmful features online such as live streaming and strangers communicating with children.

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Ricky: ah Government action shows clear choice to side with families over tech companies to put power back into the parents' hands and give kids the childhood they deserve. Decisive action backed by nine in ten parents expected to be brought into Parliament before Christmas with protections expected to come into force in spring 2027. Flav, if they had banned MySpace…

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Ricky: now flav

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Flav: Yep.

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Ricky: if they had banned myspace MSN, Bebo, all of that, like back in our day, where would we be?

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Flav: um i wouldve been I would have been annoyed at the time, um but the the thing you realize as as you get older,

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Flav: is that 16 you don't know how to make right decisions for yourself. um It's impossible to ah rise above a situation, look down on it and go, what is the correct decision I make here?

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Flav: um So i don't i don't i think when when we were, we would have it, Rick. I mean, we were a bit older. We weren't 16 when this was happening. But but um yeah, any any idea of any change that came from what what we perceived to be adults who didn't understand us would have been received awfully.

00:20:13.91
Ricky: No.

00:20:24.31
Flav: um I remember them talking about extending the school day back when I was a kid um and, you know, making English and maths, passing English and maths mandatory, which has now become a thing.

00:20:36.52
Flav: At the time, I was like, no, yeah, I don't want to do more. I don't want to do more.

00:20:40.22
Ricky: No, no!

00:20:42.42
Flav: And I was very quiet and mild. never really caused many problems when was a kid. But I was ah speaking ah to Will, and like he was like he's like, I don't want to do English and maths until I'm 18. That's what but you'll probably probably have to do if he doesn't pass these exams. And I understand it. I wouldn't have wanted to. I'd hated it.

00:21:02.49
Flav: But I understand why it's there. um And to life is a lot easier if you communicate through your written word. And I'm not sure about how important maths is. It hasn't been for me, but it clearly is an important thing um when when it comes to how well a society runs and, um you know, almost everything complicated comes from mathematics. But I just wasn't able to do it.

00:21:24.76
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:24.98
Flav: So yeah, I would have been human. I would have been like, how dare you? This is my thing. This is the way we communicate. You don't understand it, so you're banning it. That would have been my position, I guess, when I was 60.

00:21:33.59
Ricky: like my My thought straight away was we this we wouldn't have had this relationship. like If they got rid of MSN and any way that you can kind of communicate in that way, do you like our paths wouldn't have been as in intertwined as they as they are now.

00:21:41.18
Flav: Uh…

00:21:48.34
Flav: not

00:21:51.24
Flav: Well, then… you have to You'd have to ban internet message boards. then Like MSN, we would still communicated for the message board and um um made lots of friends at that time without using MSN.

00:21:56.02
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:02.22
Flav: But yeah, imagine that they applied the same thing to message boards. So most people who listen to this will know that, but message boards were just in the places on internet websites like forums where you just talk to each other by posting my messages as a part of a forum rather than instant messaging like MSN.

00:22:16.38
Ricky: Mm-hmm.

00:22:20.18
Flav: um But yeah, 100% we wouldn't have, I wouldn't have made, i would have been quite isolated, I think, actually, without the the message board at that time.

00:22:28.44
Ricky: Yeah, I think… um Sorry, excuse me. We we all would have been kind of… Like, the trajectory on what our lives have taken through all of that stuff would be hugely different.

00:22:44.02
Ricky: So it does… it does um I don't really know how to feel about it, if I'm honest.

00:22:51.41
Flav: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:22:51.75
Ricky: Well, do, and we'll discuss it further. But, like, ah so so it's, like, for protecting kids, right? So it's the stuff that you put out, which you just mentioned, like, you don't you don't really know and your brain hasn't really formed and you don't know what you're putting out into the world is how it's going to be perceived.

00:23:11.06
Ricky: Do you have anything in your mind where you've, like, fuck, well, when you were younger or anything else that you've put out you thought, God, that was, that, that was silly.

00:23:21.14
Flav: I remembered but ah remember posting things when I was younger that were silly that I just thought was funny at the time, yeah.

00:23:22.81
Ricky: Yeah,

00:23:27.74
Ricky: yeah, yeah. Yeah.

00:23:28.66
Flav: but But I was young and was stupid and I didn't know you know ah to the i didn't know what I was doing. But that doesn't mean it couldn't absolutely destroy me as an adult later on.

00:23:40.89
Flav: You know, you feel like these sort people have posted stuff, like racism stuff, or it might be xenophobic or homophobic stuff in 2011, because that's the conversations people are having.

00:23:41.34
Ricky: a

00:23:50.23
Flav: I know we don't like to admit it, that there is racist, homophobic, ah xenophobic conversations happening all the time offline, all the time.

00:23:58.46
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:59.95
Flav: It's just that people are becoming much more savvy to the impact when you publish it online.

00:24:05.94
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:06.87
Flav: um it hasn't gone away. It's just people have been shamed into hiding from it. Or actually, certainly in the modern era, certainly in the last five years, with Trump, with the rise of popularism and Trump getting his power and reform probably getting his power.

00:24:22.49
Flav: that people feel more comfortable now being open with it after ah a long period of everyone being very scared about offending people. There's been a kind of rebuttal one and and a movement against that now, which is what you're seeing with um with with Trump. of the part reason why, this is very pseudo-politics, but part of the reason why Trump got in is because there was a black president before him, which people just couldn't get their head around or couldn't stomach.

00:24:44.92
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:45.43
Flav: right but So they go, well, we're going to find something else. this It just bounces back and forth. It's like ping pong. um But ah yes, Ricky, yes, to answer your question, tons of stuff.

00:24:58.86
Flav: Loads of stuff.

00:24:59.70
Ricky: I remember, um and like it's still, it doesn't keep me awake at night. but And it's not that bad, right?

00:25:10.17
Ricky: But you're you're smiling.

00:25:10.12
Flav: Yeah.

00:25:11.29
Ricky: Do you know what going say?

00:25:12.35
Flav: I don't, but it could be a million things back then.

00:25:15.58
Ricky: But once, we're you know, through the fighting cock, um I got to go to a shirt unveiling. They sent me a shirt.

00:25:24.02
Flav: Oh, right.

00:25:25.35
Ricky: The the club sent me a free shirt as part of it.

00:25:27.70
Flav: Yeah.

00:25:28.66
Ricky: And I had tweeted at the time, isn't it great that the club had given me a free shirt? I've got free stuff. Ha, ha, ha. was It wasn't that time, but it was like, it it it was just, but I was kind of like boasting that I had a free shirt given to me by the club.

00:25:38.52
Flav: No, it wasn't that, though.

00:25:45.37
Flav: It was a new shirt. Yeah, it was…

00:25:46.97
Ricky: Yeah, new shirt as part of their promotion.

00:25:51.03
Flav: but But let's be clear, you attended, you were invited to cover as a part of the fighting cock, the release of the new kit.

00:25:58.07
Ricky: Yes.

00:26:01.53
Ricky: Correct.

00:26:01.53
Flav: And when when that happens, you're given a you're often be given a shirt, obviously, that's the point of the promotion.

00:26:09.85
Ricky: And then um I went on Twitter and tweeted about it. And I got dogs abuse.

00:26:14.31
Flav: Probably not the best. Yeah, I mean, you but what what does that, what message does that say?

00:26:19.09
Ricky: Don't tweet stuff.

00:26:20.79
Flav: but No, but you're telling people, look what I've got, I'm better than you.

00:26:22.46
Ricky: Yeah, I know. I didn't know that. That's the thing, right? And I think…

00:26:24.82
Flav: You're not saying that, Ricky. That's not the energy you came from, but that's how people take it.

00:26:27.63
Ricky: No. that Yes. Now, I think my point behind that was…

00:26:37.07
Ricky: Aren't we supposed to… Do we let people learn from their mistakes? As in, you shouldn't be posting this. If you post something racist or you post something homophobic, youer you soon learn that you shouldn't have posted that because of people's rebuttals and stuff like that and you know the discourse it has further.

00:26:56.13
Ricky: Or are we kind of…

00:26:56.31
Flav: Yeah.

00:26:57.65
Ricky: um

00:27:00.79
Ricky: Are we doing the right thing by not allowing children online to to post whatever they want?

00:27:05.78
Flav: ah don't think I don't think yeah but i don't i don't think the boat the ban is really about what they post. It's not about what they post. It's about what they're receiving.

00:27:13.59
Ricky: right

00:27:13.76
Flav: That's what the ban is. It's not um it's doom scrolling on on on Twitter. It's been exposed to violent material, pornographic material, um stuff that perhaps under 16 shouldn't be looking at.

00:27:28.06
Flav: unless they want to and go and seek seek out that type of material, if they want to, I mean, under 16 boys are looking at porn.

00:27:36.12
Ricky: I was gonna say that's all I was doing that's all I was looking up looking for hmm

00:27:36.49
Flav: Well, ah Yeah, but we but when when we were younger, that it wasn't we didn't have ah absolutely anything we wanted, we could find.

00:27:45.50
Ricky: no

00:27:45.95
Flav: And not only that, stuff that we didn't even know exists, we could find. um And some of it terrible, you know, some of it, you know, not showing a healthy example of what sex is at all.

00:27:59.35
Flav: And also it it educates young men and girls perhaps as well. It educates them about what they think sex is. and And it's not, sex is not what you see in pornography. It's obviously we all know this, listen to this. It's something when, when, with your loved one, it's often, or do even a one night stand, it's often much, much more sort of sensual or slower. It's certainly not fucking at different angles.

00:28:25.08
Ricky: No.

00:28:25.34
Flav: Um, but,

00:28:26.58
Ricky: Even though i I still aspire to do that and expel volumes of E-Jack everywhere, never, never the same.

00:28:31.83
Flav: Yeah. just yeah So there's that. There's also, if you think about, if you think about, like I never use X, really. And the only time I ah use X now is I'll tweet something and I will unmute the conversations right immediately.

00:28:49.05
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:49.83
Flav: i don't I don't want to hear anything. do You read my message. i don't even want to give a shit what your opinion is about my message.

00:28:55.29
Ricky: Yeah, good.

00:28:56.12
Flav: And then last night I tweeted, ah lucky I deleted it actually.

00:28:58.84
Ricky: Oh, God.

00:29:00.15
Flav: No, like I deleted it within about a minute of posting it because thought this isn't as funny as I think it is.

00:29:00.91
Ricky: I actually she saw that.

00:29:05.82
Flav: And it was something along lines of, it was shit. Kylian Mbappe can only dream of a world where Harry Kane sleeps soundly. Something like that it was. Yeah, and I was like, what am I doing?

00:29:18.10
Flav: what Why am I tweeting this?

00:29:19.58
Ricky: Yeah.

00:29:20.38
Flav: Why am I tweeting this? What am I hoping to happen?

00:29:24.02
Ricky: Yeah.

00:29:24.09
Flav: And so I just deleted it.

00:29:25.56
Ricky: Right.

00:29:25.62
Flav: And do you know what? Mbappe scored. Someone had screen grabbed it already.

00:29:29.34
Ricky: Yeah, i saw that.

00:29:30.65
Flav: And I was like, how why have you screen grabbed that?

00:29:32.95
Ricky: Yeah, it's…

00:29:33.62
Flav: And he was like, just to get you when Mbappe inevitably scores. and i was like And he just scored that screamer as well. And I was like, fair play. It was a good goal. But but but my point here is, Ricky, is is X has become possibly, and there are some terrible places to spend time on the internet, but the worst place to spend for your mental health.

00:29:50.45
Ricky: Oh,

00:29:53.40
Ricky: oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.

00:29:54.46
Flav: It is vile. And i i don't want…

00:29:55.80
Ricky: ye

00:29:57.58
Flav: it just goes to show that if you have a platform and you offer it to humans, this is how they're going to behave. And there is nothing good about that platform at all.

00:30:08.63
Flav: Everything gets slated. Everything gets slaughtered. Everything's met with division or arguments or… and and And I guess it's a platform for people to to express how they feel inside. And a lot of people are very unhappy about what's going on in the world at the moment. So it's an example of that.

00:30:24.12
Flav: I don't want my, my kids don't use X anyway. And bear in mind, but both mine are 16 and 18. So this doesn't apply to them. they They never use Twitter. It's old. It's for old people. They never use it.

00:30:36.44
Flav: um But yeah, that's an example of how bad it is. Instagram is a terrible app. It's not as bad as X, but there's some really bad stuff on there and bad stuff in the comments.

00:30:44.79
Ricky: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:45.37
Flav: yeah

00:30:46.22
Ricky: Yeah.

00:30:46.39
Flav: what what i don't what The reaction I saw from kids is that what am I going to do now? the I'm going to be bored without being able to doom scroll. And I get that.

00:30:58.97
Flav: That's just the way they they operate. We want kids. this What did Keir Starmer say? We want our kids to have their childhood back. No, you want them to have your childhood.

00:31:06.53
Ricky: Mm.

00:31:08.57
Flav: This is their childhood.

00:31:08.73
Ricky: Yes.

00:31:09.57
Flav: This is how that this is their reality.

00:31:10.01
Ricky: Yes. yes

00:31:13.40
Flav: So I don't know what the right answer is. I think yes, absolutely. They shouldn't be. i think the social media is crap and bad for kids' mental health and creates all kinds of issues within them.

00:31:24.92
Flav: But you can't just you can't just stop them from, you can't stop a societal change like this, I don't think. theyre like They're technological, they're kids that are brought up in a technological age that's rapidly expanding.

00:31:40.54
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:31:41.07
Flav: I just, I think the genie's out of the bag. And by the way, you know how easy it is to get around these? these ah What are they going to do? The similar stuff to that they did with Pornhub and pornography is that you have to verify your age by putting in a passport.

00:31:55.64
Ricky: Yeah.

00:31:56.34
Flav: Do you know how quickly and easily that is to to get around? So you don't have to do that. It's so easy. You think kids won't even know about VPNs.

00:32:05.43
Ricky: yeah

00:32:05.43
Flav: It will go around like wildfire. Don't worry, you'll still use Instagram because you've got a VPN. All right, you can't use your account, but you set up a new account under a different name.

00:32:16.50
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:17.56
Flav: It's not going to stop anything, but… ah guess um I agree with the principle of trying to protect kids from some of the terrible stuff that goes on in these platforms. I don't think they're good.

00:32:29.21
Ricky: So like um the part about um ah like, do you know who, ah you know, do you know Gary Vaynerchuk?

00:32:37.82
Flav: Yeah.

00:32:38.87
Ricky: Right. So he, I mean, he says some mental things. I used to love him back in the day, but he's just, he just says absolutely crazy things now, but he always, he said something that has always ah stuck with me. Now he has made his, i wouldn't say he's made his, you know, his media empire on social media, but ah from social media, but he is posting multiple times daily and it's got, hit it's got him to where he is now.

00:33:05.85
Ricky: And he said, someone said to him about being, uh, social media being bad, bad for your mental health and all this other stuff. And they said, would you like ban it from your kids or would you let them, would it would you restrict it for your kids and stuff like that?

00:33:21.78
Ricky: And he said something along the lines of, if I was to then say to my girls, right, you're not allowed on social media, you're banned from it and stuff like that, then they're, um, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:33:38.77
Ricky: They're kind of learning. that They would be left behind. like All of their mates would be learning about social media, learning how to interact, learning about communities, learning about different topics. like There's a lot of really great education on social media.

00:33:54.65
Ricky: And by restricting them that everybody's already on, they're just getting left behind. because they will be isolated and they'll be stuck and they won't be able to use these different platforms. and But all their mates in their class are.

00:34:07.42
Flav: yeah

00:34:07.67
Ricky: So why would I want to hold them back? Why when they go into IT class that everyone else everyone knows what a cross is in the corner because it means new message, how to open a new message. And then your kid's like, I don't use social media. I don't know how to do any of this stuff.

00:34:25.02
Ricky: So I really kind of, um and

00:34:28.71
Flav: Well, it's like AI. I mean, AI is going to be the future of all almost all industry. You need to be able to be across this. this it's

00:34:35.48
Ricky: exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:36.29
Flav: what You have to outweigh the damages of… It's like it's like kids parents that want to homeschool their kids, which I understand. like I wish I didn't have to go to my school, but I learned a lot about how to read people and read situations in my school that I wouldn't have done unless I'd gone through five years of it.

00:34:55.41
Flav: Like, we knew that Will wasn't going to do well at school, but it was important for him to go through that experience and finish and complete something he's supposed to do.

00:35:03.43
Ricky: Hmm.

00:35:04.21
Flav: Even though he hated every minute of it, you know, he would rather have gone to work. In fact, we're three days into our so into our um summer holidays, if you don't count the weekend, and he's out working. He's putting up fence posts.

00:35:17.75
Ricky: Is he really?

00:35:18.71
Flav: Yeah.

00:35:19.34
Ricky: a lad.

00:35:20.78
Flav: still had get him up, though, didn't I? fuck's sake, man. like Part of but responsibility of getting up for work is making sure you go to bed at a time where you can wake up.

00:35:29.56
Ricky: thank you but but by the way you can but we need to clip that up and send it to my missus not my missus my girls yeah you could yeah you should do that actually that is yeah

00:35:32.18
Flav: So that's you as well. So that's send us you as well. At least you get up. um Yeah, so…

00:35:43.80
Flav: Of course. Yeah. But the point is, is that there is a, there is sort of benefits, even if they're not quite exactly how you want them to be, to, to being in difficult situations, protecting your kids all the time probably leads up to weaker adults than you would have otherwise had.

00:36:03.41
Flav: if there's ways of restricting, like banning them from Instagram and banning them from Instagram, from snap Snapchat's how they all communicate as well.

00:36:11.86
Ricky: Snapchat. Yeah.

00:36:14.12
Flav: Like that is the that is the means of communicating for this generation.

00:36:17.82
Ricky: Yeah, completely.

00:36:18.27
Flav: Like restrict what they can see on that platform if there's a way. Like you can't stop it. Like let's just be clear. You can't stop it. It's too easy to get around unless they ban VPNs, which they're never going to do.

00:36:30.64
Flav: because they've actually been a part of promoting. Well, imagine, I don't know if they never would do it, you know, but VPNs are very useful and powerful tool. um And, you know, when used right, really can help you. um But the kids will find a way around this in no time, seconds flat, in the same way it's porn ban, it's a complete waste of time.

00:36:53.54
Ricky: Mmm.

00:36:53.66
Flav: How much money went into that? And at no point did they go, you know, this is really easy to get around, it's pointless.

00:37:00.12
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:00.47
Flav: And I'll tell you how easy it is. You boot up a VPN, you play it you press, I know, France on on a VPN. So for people that don't know, VPN boots up, you have a map ah world map of the world and each country has a little dot on it.

00:37:17.72
Flav: Say France and there's a little dot, you click on that dot and then the internet thinks that you're now in France.

00:37:24.28
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:24.38
Flav: So all the bans that apply in the UK no longer apply to you because you' your computer, the internet, the provider thinks that you're in France where there's no ban.

00:37:35.99
Flav: And then you just use whatever you want to use. That's going to exactly the same thing for this. So… within the apps, if there's a way to ban or or so or stop mature content coming through, that would help.

00:37:48.52
Flav: It doesn't help with the idea of, you know bullying, cyberbullying, you know, people tweeting on, you know, you're getting into arguments and saying the wrong things and things being documented forever.

00:37:52.64
Ricky: nay

00:38:00.49
Flav: But, but There's always been bullying. There always will be bullying. This is a part of growing up. You hope that your child isn't the one bullying and you hope that your child child is never bullied.

00:38:13.39
Flav: But these things you can't control.

00:38:16.09
Ricky: No. no Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:16.94
Flav: Like there were bullies in your school. we believe There's bullies in every school.

00:38:19.27
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:20.86
Flav: you can't it's it's it's a It's a human condition. And it's a part of growing up. I had bullies. I got bullied.

00:38:27.00
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:26.94
Flav: you know i think I've spoken about this before, but I had a horrible experience with one kid in my school who was brothers with the hardest one of the hardest, scariest kids you could even imagine called Mark Brissett. It was like nothing I could do. And every interaction with this kid was horrible and it would probably happened daily.

00:38:43.10
Flav: But you grow from that sort of shift. you can't protect them all the time. Although I am in favor of the ban.

00:38:51.16
Ricky: ah

00:38:52.95
Flav: Because I do think social media is really horrible.

00:38:53.14
Ricky: but Right, okay. um To go back to your point of, ah you you know, give ah children their childhood back, Starmer, and that's, you know, his childhood is essentially what he's saying.

00:39:02.58
Flav: Yeah.

00:39:07.67
Ricky: So what what what will the kids do then if they're not on… on ah social media. So like I used to meet up, there we used to be some school playing fields that I used to go down every single day and play football. No matter if my mates were there or not, I'd know someone and we'd be playing football, rugby, or just doing whatever, hanging around the shops, around the back of M&W shops back in the day, checking to see if there's any porn mags hidden, um checking to see if they'd thrown out anything that had gone past a sale by date that I would eat, mainly chocolate.

00:39:40.02
Ricky: um you know i had very happy childhood but uh but um so we are right so you've got your community you've got your snapchat community or you're on instagram or you're on discord or whatever it is the lights go out and it's like what do i do now

00:39:39.95
Flav: It did it.

00:39:44.38
Flav: did it

00:40:01.43
Ricky: I kind of, there's a bit of me that worries, not worries, but slight apprehension of kids that are used to communicating online, writing voice notes, whatever it might be. Now they have to do it in person. They have to physically meet. They have to physically interact.

00:40:24.95
Ricky: That social show social awkwardness and stuff is, it's really hard. um And there are times where I've been in a situation and it's not even a fuck, you know, I'm with my mates, you know i mean?

00:40:37.47
Ricky: um with my mates and with my family, we have a lovely day, two, three hours, but when I get home, I'm fucking sapped, man. Like my social battery is just through the floor.

00:40:44.34
Flav: Yeah.

00:40:47.03
Ricky: um So I do kind of have a bit of apprehension and worry that kids that aren't that, you know, they're so used to communicating online that when they're pushed into a social situation, but then,

00:40:58.81
Ricky: Is that a case of that that they'll find it hard at first, but then they're developing and learning a new skill? Do you know what mean?

00:41:05.08
Flav: Yeah. and and

00:41:06.01
Ricky: That you will get back into that.

00:41:08.21
Flav: Yeah, i think you I think they're resilient, aren't they? and And they would do that. And and and is is it helpful to… I don't think social mini media impacts that at all, really. Or it might have some impact, but you have some people that are wallflowers that don't like to communicate face-to-face and they're shy and inver inverted. What's it? Introverted.

00:41:28.89
Flav: And then you have gregarious and outro. What's the opposite? Introverted and…

00:41:34.12
Ricky: extraver

00:41:34.71
Flav: Extroverted, yeah. go Yeah, and that' always you'll always have that. um So, ah yeah, I'm not sure. How do your kids feel? Because this it doesn't affect mine. how does he What have they been saying

00:41:44.76
Ricky: Well, but my my eldest was like, um it comes in spring 2027.

00:41:51.19
Flav: Yeah.

00:41:52.15
Ricky: And then in September 2027, I'll be 16. So I don't care. Ooh, a few months without social media. I'll be back.

00:42:01.85
Flav: but I'll be back. Wouldn't it be interesting, though, to see in that six months what if there's been any difference?

00:42:07.48
Ricky: Yeah. So my, yeah my, my youngest, uh, I ah can't remember if I've banned TikTok. She's definitely not on Snapchat. She did have a little sly account, which I found deleted it straight away.

00:42:21.91
Ricky: And then, um, not every day.

00:42:21.91
Flav: Yeah. What, do you have to see your phone every day?

00:42:26.41
Ricky: No, no. I ah rarely check, but, uh, I think a sister grasped on her and said, you said,

00:42:29.19
Flav: right.

00:42:31.45
Flav: That's the thing that's come back. um my my like My daughter's grass will up on a couple of things. It does sometimes.

00:42:38.36
Ricky: Good. Good.

00:42:40.12
Flav: Yeah, no, fine. But like I'd rather them like not be…

00:42:44.70
Ricky: She'd be looking out for each other, brother and sister or sister and whatever.

00:42:46.84
Flav: Yeah, stop doing that. I don't know. But no, it's probably not…

00:42:49.53
Ricky: But I mean, um yeah, so I have i have caught a few bits and pieces, but mainly she's on ah YouTube shorts. She's allowed that. But. Where I have tried to pair their account of me as like an admin, as a parent, I have kind of um restricted, you know, adult content.

00:43:04.09
Flav: Yeah.

00:43:11.61
Ricky: I have restricted ah DMs.

00:43:12.06
Flav: course.

00:43:14.41
Ricky: They can only receive a DM if it's from their friend in their friends list.

00:43:19.52
Flav: On what? on what On Instagram?

00:43:21.81
Ricky: Tick, TikTok and Instagram.

00:43:23.81
Flav: Okay.

00:43:25.21
Ricky: So they can't, only I can.

00:43:25.75
Flav: Do they know how to turn that off?

00:43:29.54
Flav: how How does that work? That's what i'm curious about is what well what can they put in place to prevent kids from that they can't get around? That's what that's that's what I'm curious about. So so how do you how could you, from your device, you control that?

00:43:41.82
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll go into TikTok and then ah my their account is linked to me. So then I'll go into their account settings and I can change whatever I want. Like what their algorithm to be, and what they they what they should be seeing, what they shouldn't be seeing and stuff like that.

00:43:57.88
Flav: Yeah.

00:43:58.23
Ricky: um

00:43:58.84
Flav: And they're not going to get a VPN because you have to pay for it, right?

00:44:01.46
Ricky: yeah Exactly. When they wouldn't know how to use it. So…

00:44:06.04
Flav: you not think they would?

00:44:07.77
Ricky: no i mean, at the the other day… My eldest said to me, um my friends have given me a website where I can go on and I can watch films whenever I want and all the films are added up there and it's all for free. She said, but I need an ad blocker and I don't know what an ad blocker is.

00:44:26.52
Ricky: I said, have you checked on Google? She said, yeah, but I i don't know how to do it. ah I'm not sure what I'm doing. Can you do it for me? So I said, yeah, sure. So I found ah you know an extension in the browser, put it in and she's able to watch these films.

00:44:37.30
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:39.99
Flav: Is this on like ah on their phone or…?

00:44:41.88
Ricky: laptop um so she's able to watch films but guess man if you're at school and you're like you's not have all got ad blockers surely you'd say to your mate fucking how do i do it sort it out for me so that there will be ways to get around it but another thing as well that i that we haven't spoken about

00:44:42.62
Flav: All right, okay.

00:44:54.55
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:45:03.93
Ricky: And I've seen it from, so you've got the community side of the the content creators, which I'll go into in a minute. But then ah my daughter, she has really discovered um ah a thirst for, and her hobby is nails, right?

00:45:20.86
Ricky: And she has bought all these different types of gels, the different lights. like She's got everything, right?

00:45:28.86
Flav: Yeah.

00:45:29.46
Ricky: Her nan comes around, ah My missus, her nails, her friends. And she's created a TikTok account. And while she's created that TikTok account, she's learned how to do trends, music trends. She's learned how to do cool transitions, ah trending transitions as well.

00:45:49.11
Ricky: So she's created this nails only TikTok account and she's building it and building it. And she got like, I don't know, 77 likes. None of her schoolmates are there. It's all people that are, you know, like nails and stuff like that.

00:46:01.14
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:46:02.10
Ricky: 3,000 views and stuff. And she's like learning. And each night I'll go in there and I'll have a chat about last night. I was having a chat with her and I said, um, She's like, how do I, how do I grow my account? um and I said, what's your, what's your account called by the way? I've forgotten. She said, and it's, and it's her name. And I was like, well, if you start commenting on other people's, you know, nail profiles, you'll, so they'll see your name and then there'll be like, you're into nails.

00:46:29.91
Ricky: And then she said, but my name's just, my name's just Amelie. And i was like, well, change it to Milton Keynes nails or whatever, or nail pro, And then once you do that and they'll see that you're into nails, they'll start following. Anyway, just giving her tips and stuff. But this happens all the time.

00:46:45.66
Flav: yeah

00:46:45.78
Ricky: And she's really interested in and building her audience and creating this kind of um nail business for herself. And her mates from school, even though I loathe it, young girls in my house just milling about, they're all getting their nails done. They're paying her £10 a pop.

00:47:02.83
Flav: Really?

00:47:03.42
Ricky: Right. Yeah, yeah. She's making money. She's, she saved up money to go to Harry Styles tonight to buy a fucking 90 pound merch hoodie.

00:47:11.47
Flav: Oh, wow.

00:47:11.54
Ricky: Right. She's, but she's done it herself. Fair fucks.

00:47:14.11
Flav: Pepe.

00:47:14.26
Ricky: Where, do where, where, you know, where, where, where does she go with that, that kind of creative outlet where she wants to learn more, where she is going into like kids nowadays, that it's, you know, it's on so the stats are grown all the time.

00:47:14.29
Flav: Pepe.

00:47:28.26
Ricky: But kids aren't going to Google to find shit out. They're going to TikTok to search.

00:47:32.47
Flav: mean So am I.

00:47:32.82
Ricky: They're going to YouTube to search.

00:47:33.84
Flav: I find recipes on TikTok, ah ah all kinds of things. Yeah, yeah. but you see it can be really, ah really, really, um really useful.

00:47:43.51
Ricky: ah like So useful.

00:47:44.69
Flav: But so what, when all she has to do is, what does she have to do in that instance? yeah If she wants to keep that account, what how does she keep it?

00:47:53.43
Ricky: I don't know. i don't know the ins and outs.

00:47:55.96
Flav: she You would have to put your credit card information or something like that in in there.

00:47:56.54
Ricky: I don't if it…

00:48:00.22
Ricky: Yeah, I don't know if it, you know, when it comes spring 2027, that all UK based kids that are under a certain age, their accounts get deleted, their accounts get locked, their accounts get whatever. But again, she's trying to take, she's trying to make money. She's trying to make bank, right?

00:48:19.83
Ricky: to buy merch for Harry Styles. Now she had some old clothes, had some decent trainers that she's never worn and all that lot. She created a profile on Facebook, uh, to sell it on marketplace.

00:48:32.62
Flav: Gotcha.

00:48:33.53
Ricky: And then it said, you're too young to use marketplace.

00:48:37.08
Flav: Yeah.

00:48:37.46
Ricky: What did she do after that?

00:48:39.62
Flav: don't know.

00:48:40.25
Ricky: She just created another account and changed the date of birth and she's got it now.

00:48:40.32
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:43.62
Ricky: Do you know what mean?

00:48:43.70
Flav: yeah

00:48:45.13
Ricky: So it's like all these different things of like, that that's how easy it was to get around. i kind of shrugged my shoulders and was like, don't know what going to do, babe. Like they've got your name. They got your address. They know, they know that you're young.

00:48:56.86
Ricky: Two minutes later, I've got a friend request. Done it, dad.

00:49:01.31
Flav: um I, yeah, that that Facebook marketplace is a nightmare.

00:49:06.49
Ricky: Oh, mate. Fucking someone coming to a house to collect items to buy. it's It's not for me.

00:49:12.60
Flav: No, it's more, more than that, I've got fucking, we've got um Mason and Will, like, obsessed with looking at old bikes and shit like that.

00:49:12.74
Ricky: It's horrible.

00:49:21.06
Flav: They're never going to buy a moped for 90 quid the other day and have it, like, delivered and dropped off our house. And I was like, what are you on about? What kind of moped costs 90 quid for a start? It'll be junk.

00:49:32.77
Flav: And then she's where are going to put it? In the garden? No, no, you're putting it in the garden. I'm not having fucking moped in the house.

00:49:38.36
Ricky: What about your garage?

00:49:42.52
Flav: no Not moped that doesn't run. Absolutely not. If they wanted to buy a moped, no, no, no, no.

00:49:45.40
Ricky: but But they can fix it up. One Right, okay.

00:49:48.39
Flav: no no Because they won't fix it up. It'll just sit there. And then eventually I'll have to pay someone to remove it as scrap. That's what will happen. so and

00:49:57.88
Ricky: one of the

00:49:58.55
Flav: And there isn't room as well. There's a car parked in there and that's it. There's not room for anything else.

00:50:03.35
Ricky: right okay um

00:50:04.86
Flav: but I had to stop say, oh, I'm picking up my phone. I'm like, no, you ain't. I mean, you can, but it's not coming in the house. You put it somewhere else.

00:50:09.40
Ricky: ah

00:50:10.71
Flav: And then he went, and this is the thing about being an adult, right? he goes, well, no, I'll leave it on the in the car park. And i was like, that will get towed within, it'll be and you're not it's not registered, has no insurance, no road tax.

00:50:23.82
Flav: So that will be picked up within about three or four days and it'll be gone.

00:50:26.62
Ricky: Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah, forgot about that.

00:50:30.20
Flav: Yeah.

00:50:30.71
Ricky: But ah like one of the things I love watching on um like TikTok, there's an account I watch and it's um of a garage and they go and speak to the the mechanics every day. And they tell you what cars come in, what they're doing, oil change whatever. And then I just watch them doing it.

00:50:49.88
Ricky: And I'm just fascinated by people fixing cars.

00:50:49.97
Flav: Mm-hmm.

00:50:54.97
Ricky: but But it's the thing of that education, that learning, stuff like that, where my kids go in there to learn, where it might not just be about nails. It might be about ah life in general, the sexual nature, that they're unsure and they don't want to speak to their parents. It might be, ah don't I don't know, it could be fucking anything, anything educational. And removing that is, I don't know, man.

00:51:18.29
Ricky: I don't really…

00:51:19.58
Flav: Well, there are people trained to give stuff like sexual advice, and don't think you should be getting it from TikTok. like like I'll tell you what, there's an example, an example right, where um I won't say anything specific, but someone I know, a young girl, not not from my family, um as was was going through um having sort of ah heart palpitations and anxiety, as many young kids do.

00:51:25.69
Ricky: No, no, that's…

00:51:46.46
Flav: And um obviously you can use things called beta blockers.

00:51:50.07
Ricky: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:50.14
Flav: So beta blockers are good way to kind regulate in the heart, but keeping panic away and stuff, really useful stuff. They'd seen some stuff on TikTok that just isn't true about beta blockers.

00:52:00.50
Ricky: Right.

00:52:01.18
Flav: And now they're absolutely adamant that they won't even consider them because there's misinformation that they've received.

00:52:04.97
Ricky: yeah.

00:52:07.86
Flav: So, yeah. Yeah. I don't, they shouldn't be getting, they shouldn't be getting advice on anything on TikTok.

00:52:10.71
Ricky: Yeah.

00:52:14.76
Flav: You see it. You've got people that claim to be professionals talking about shit that they don't know about.

00:52:19.86
Ricky: yeah

00:52:20.56
Flav: Like that stuff, giving misinformation or protecting, like passing yourself as ah off as a professional and then giving information should be illegal. Probably

00:52:28.86
Ricky: i saw I saw a TikTok where a guy had ah taken, I think it was it was ah fitmin it was a vitamin d along with magnesium glasonite or something like that.

00:52:43.00
Flav: yeah

00:52:43.54
Ricky: And it got rid of his his anxiety. He's had anxiety for three years and he started taking that because he saw a TikTok and it got rid of it. So I went out and bought it and I started taking it.

00:52:55.14
Ricky: Did it get rid of my anxiety? it didn't. It didn't do anything.

00:52:58.02
Flav: What is the was worse than that is people are saying, um like theyre they're professing to have solved cancer by taking like a, don't know what it was, but like it's a sort of a vitamin.

00:53:12.57
Ricky: Right.

00:53:13.79
Flav: And you're having fucking, like, what? Yeah.

00:53:16.12
Ricky: So again, like we've, um isn't this a good thing though? Like with the social media ban of misinformation, the amount of misinformation that is on the internet, whether it it's vitamins, whether it's ah politics that are going about.

00:53:31.62
Ricky: So that's one of the things that, um again, worries me about, you know, different narratives being pushed and then your algorithm learning about it because you've hovered on a video for so long.

00:53:41.37
Flav: yeah

00:53:42.30
Ricky: And like my kids seeing ah immigrants' houses being burnt down because of the color of their skin and like, you know, riots in Southampton and all this stuff.

00:53:49.02
Flav: Yeah.

00:53:52.07
Ricky: And it's like, is that going to happen to our house? Is that going happen to us?

00:53:57.11
Flav: Yeah, it creates the…

00:53:57.68
Ricky: It's those types of things that I'm like, let's just remove that.

00:54:00.41
Flav: It's like knife crime, isn't it? It's so but it's like how like you think every time your kids go out, they're going to be stabbed. and like

00:54:05.85
Ricky: Yeah.

00:54:06.68
Flav: The reality is that the chances of that happening are so a tiny. But you think it's not. And this has been happening. Fear mongering has been happening long before social media. It was just it was just stuff that would happen in newspapers um and and the news rather than directly into their hands, I suppose.

00:54:24.82
Ricky: Yeah. The, the, the last thing I'll, um, I'll mention is like the other side of it. the The people that have built communities, what happens to them? You know, their channels are based on young kids. I saw one yesterday and a guy, he is a fisherman.

00:54:40.47
Ricky: He teaches you how to fish, the techniques, the bait, where to go on the river and all that. like A lot of his, you know, here's audience are young lads that are learning how to catch fish.

00:54:51.19
Ricky: And, and he's but you know he's built his you know his following on YouTube, they'll be wiped out.

00:54:52.71
Flav: You'll lose them.

00:54:57.43
Flav: Yeah.

00:54:58.65
Ricky: Which is mental.

00:54:59.89
Flav: Yeah, that it will be. It will be. i mean, it that is what that is the sort of fallout to this. You will lose anybody using YouTube under 16.

00:55:10.19
Flav: I don't think YouTube is as popular with under 16-year-olds as like stuff like… I mean, maybe the youtube but YouTube Shorts aspect to it.

00:55:17.40
Ricky: Yeah.

00:55:17.36
Flav: Maybe. Maybe.

00:55:20.09
Ricky: I mean… I kind of feel like if there was not and not a wholesale ban, ah if the like social media companies, do you think they're they're responsible or it's parents?

00:55:32.22
Flav: No, it's about social media. come I mean, how can you parent it? How can you stop what they're seeing? like How can you prevent them from from not um accessing this material? So yeah, the social media companies have to take massive responsibility for the content they're allowing to be provided to miners.

00:55:50.30
Ricky: Yeah, I mean, I've done my bit of like going through their accounts, linking it and making sure they don't see what they're you know not supposed to. see But I can only do so much.

00:55:56.89
Flav: Yeah.

00:55:58.26
Ricky: Maybe this is just a wake up call to the tech companies that they don't, you know, that they can't just do what they want and not be as. um

00:56:06.97
Flav: blasé about it.

00:56:07.80
Ricky: Yeah, exactly.

00:56:09.05
Flav: um Yeah. i mean, they the there's only so much you can do as a parent. You can't protect them from seeing this stuff in its entirety. And, you know… like Like I said, when they figure out how to use, if you think they can't figure out how to use a VPN at some stage, it just takes one of them in one class to work it.

00:56:27.38
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:28.06
Flav: And then they all know. um Yeah. and And generally, in my experience, they have seen and done more than you think.

00:56:38.99
Flav: That's my experience.

00:56:40.14
Ricky: I don't say that.

00:56:41.22
Flav: I know. I'm sorry, Ricky, but it's probably true.

00:56:42.33
Ricky: Makes me feel sick.

00:56:43.49
Flav: It's probably true.

00:56:43.70
Ricky: Oh, God. Oh, God. Some of the videos I've seen, Jesus Christ.

00:56:48.57
Flav: yeah Maybe not those. I don't think I've even seen the stuff that you've seen.

00:56:54.75
Ricky: Uh, even if they did like, um, ah like a curfew, like when you get back from school and you chill out, that's how kids chill out. Now they lay on the bed. They've done the school day, four o'clock. So four until seven o'clock, you can have social media and then it gets switched off.

00:57:07.91
Flav: I'd do it. Yeah.

00:57:10.40
Ricky: I don't know. don't know. Right. um We are going to go into something only you know, and that is called that email. um The topic for next week, we were supposed to do this today, but this is a pertinent topic and I thought it would be a good good thing to have a chat about ah Next week, we're going to carry on with what everyone in the Patreon Discord had suggested.

00:57:35.88
Ricky: They want to hear us talk about dreams, dreaming, daydreams, what happens when we dream, and what does it all mean?

00:57:38.75
Flav: Okay.

00:57:43.86
Ricky: Dreaming is one of the biggest unsolved mysteries in neuroscience. So Flav and I are going to spend one hour to decide to dissect what those are, what I think would be fun, like,

00:57:56.25
Ricky: If you send us in your worst dreams, your recurring dreams and nice dreams, day terrors, all of that stuff, and we'll read out what we think it means.

00:58:05.56
Flav: i I had a dream, like because i won't remember this this last week.

00:58:05.84
Ricky: So…

00:58:08.82
Flav: ah You forget your dreams because so obscure ah as they are.

00:58:10.80
Ricky: Right.

00:58:11.79
Flav: But last night, i had a dream that i was I was in some sort of society, like people i knew but kind of didn't know. It wasn't like my family and friends. um And it was in like this world that we live in. But I've done ah basically been ostracized from this community. And when I say community, i don't mean…

00:58:32.31
Flav: it wasn't like a cult it it was just people that I was somehow connected to in in in in a modern like and think it happened around in Holloway but I'd done something wrong and I couldn't convince them that I hadn't done what I'd done um and so I spent a lot of time trying to avoid people and and and and not get myself in situations of this this this thing that I couldn't escape it was really weird

00:58:58.78
Ricky: what what does that mean what but surely wow

00:59:00.31
Flav: none None of the dreams mean anything. if you're go to If you want me to sit down next week and say, well, what does that mean? does not None of them mean anything. I don't think we should do a podcast where people send their dreams in and go, I think it means not they're all bollocks. It doesn't mean anything. It's your brain your brain processing what you're processing what's happened during that day or previously.

00:59:21.11
Flav: And that's it.

00:59:22.81
Ricky: you think scientifically that's not proven

00:59:22.86
Flav: It's just nothing. It's gobbledygook. Absolutely, without question. Yes, I think it's all nonsense. I couldn't give a shit. yeah

00:59:30.20
Ricky: ah

00:59:31.22
Flav: You believe in ghosts and that's not scientifically proven.

00:59:34.17
Ricky: It is. I saw one the other day. Janine, she said, you're a cunt.

00:59:36.18
Flav: You didn't. see what um I love to talk about dreams, but I'm not analyzing other people's dreams.

00:59:41.85
Ricky: Right, okay.

00:59:42.58
Flav: For an hour.

00:59:43.32
Ricky: right Right, okay, fine.

00:59:43.28
Flav: I do it here. Oh, yeah, no, was a mermaid and then then then I turned into a dolphin and then we flew off into a spaceship. but like what What does that mean?

00:59:51.06
Ricky: I think…

00:59:51.06
Flav: Who cares? Who gives a shit what it means? i I dream I'm in plane crashes all the time. all the time.

00:59:59.70
Ricky: Right, well well we'll go into this.

01:00:01.02
Flav: And i don't mean i don't mean i don't mean plane crashes that explode on the floor.

01:00:01.10
Ricky: We'll…

01:00:05.70
Flav: It's like a false landing or ah we land not where we're supposed to land, but we don't die. I've had about 10, 15 of those dreams.

01:00:16.57
Ricky: Fucking hell.

01:00:17.37
Flav: One this week as well. I think you were there.

01:00:19.32
Ricky: Oh my God. Oh Jesus Christ.

01:00:21.39
Flav: Yeah.

01:00:21.50
Ricky: Right. we we'll We'll be talking about dreams next week. If you've got anything to send us on that, send it into ladsanonpod at gmail.com and that.

01:00:30.06
Flav: What's the weirdest dream you've ever had that you just cannot explain? I don't mean abstract. I mean, like, why the fuck did my mind do that?

01:00:37.02
Ricky: Yeah. What send those in.

01:00:39.16
Flav: Yeah, like, I found myself in, the I don't know, going down on my nan. why them up Why did the why my brain do that to me in a dream?

01:00:49.96
Ricky: Oh, do you know what? i think i've actually got one of those as well. Not fucking that, but like I've got one of those ones where woke up, i was like, Jesus Christ. Right, you are going to listen to…

01:01:09.37
Ricky: that email. My first proper girlfriend and I were together for over four years, from 17 to 21. While my mates were out sowing their wild oats at university, I was happily loyal.

01:01:22.84
Ricky: we went to the different We went to different unis but made it work until her final year. I surprised her one weekend with flowers and a six-hour round trip. Big mistake. Something had changed.

01:01:36.38
Ricky: She was distant. I slept on the floor and the next morning I left early and went back to Milton Keynes. I wonder if I know this

01:01:45.45
Flav: Uh.

01:01:46.20
Ricky: A few weeks later she admitted she'd developed feelings for one of her flatmates.

01:01:51.66
Flav: Uh.

01:01:52.98
Ricky: days after Days after we officially split she was with him. oh my god that was fucking quick.

01:02:01.30
Flav: Uh.

01:02:01.82
Ricky: I was heartbroken. My best mate booked us a lads holiday to Gran Canaria. After a few beers, i made an awful decision. I logged in to my ex's uni email account, saw messages between her and the new bloke and completely lost my head.

01:02:20.73
Ricky: Pretending to be her, I emailed him saying I wanted to peg him with a massive strap on. He replied almost instantly, hell yeah, fuck me with your massive cock.

01:02:31.90
Ricky: So I forwarded the email to everyone in her address book.

01:02:36.32
Flav: Oh.

01:02:37.08
Ricky: A week later, i returned home, still feeling sorry for myself, and noticed a new starter had joined my office. She was the most beautiful woman I'd ever seen.

01:02:47.61
Ricky: Fast forward 16 years, we're married, have two amazing kids, and still going strong. i haven't really spoken to my ex since, but every few weeks, usually at 3am, I remember that email and die a little inside.

01:03:04.22
Ricky: And that is something only I know.

01:03:06.74
Flav: That is, there's nothing you can, like, it's easier if you're heartbroken, you would make terrible, terrible ah decisions like that.

01:03:15.80
Ricky: Yeah.

01:03:16.32
Flav: I don't understand. So one of my one of the things I'm grateful that my brain doesn't want me to do is seek out bad news. Like, there's nothing he could beat he can gain, zero he can gain from logging into that email and looking at any messages.

01:03:30.52
Flav: The only thing he can gain is pain. But, and so it's mad that that you'll be compelled to do it. He doesn't want, logically he wouldn't do it. So something's going on in his brain that goes, he needs to do it.

01:03:45.31
Flav: So yeah, like i remember like,

01:03:47.06
Ricky: Hang on a sec. Sorry, go on, go on, go on.

01:03:49.85
Flav: ah just remember in my previous relationship with where she would ask me questions. You don't want to know the answers to these questions. Why are you asking me? Like, what what was your your sexual relationships like elsewhere?

01:04:02.49
Flav: Or have you ever thought about other have you ever thought about other women?

01:04:03.58
Ricky: Oh, God. Oh, good Lord.

01:04:07.09
Flav: And am i like do you think i'm the most you know, attractive person. I don't know what it is. i not I can't remember. We're talking about so long ago now.

01:04:15.70
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:15.91
Flav: I can't remember the specifics, but I remember being obsessed with this stuff.

01:04:17.08
Ricky: Yeah.

01:04:20.70
Flav: um And it sort of comes from insecurity, but just kind you're just like, you don't want to know how many people I've slept with. You don't want to know about myself. It happened before you. It's not really your business.

01:04:31.06
Ricky: Yeah.

01:04:32.36
Flav: I'm not going to ask the same thing of you because I don't want to know.

01:04:35.35
Ricky: So you're… You've never sought out… something that you're like that kind of intrigues you, even though, you know, it's more than likely going to be bad news.

01:04:47.35
Ricky: You know, like if you feel like your missus is cheating on you and you you feel it deep within, like to grab the phone and have a little, just a little gander or a little email or a little kind of like stalk on someone's Facebook or, or anything like that.

01:04:52.82
Flav: Well…

01:05:01.94
Flav: I guess if you're scared and you you suspect that there's something might be going on and you kind of think, well, I just need to know if there is or if I'm mad, then in that instance, that is serving a purpose, right?

01:05:13.37
Flav: Because your you're essentially accelerating what is inevitable.

01:05:13.61
Ricky: Mmm. Yeah.

01:05:18.28
Flav: Right. So I don't necessarily mind that. I just, it's more like now I wouldn't dream of looking at my wife's phone, like not, not once, not even, i don't, I'm so confident that she's doing nothing wrong, that I have no desire to look at her phone.

01:05:33.14
Ricky: Yeah.

01:05:36.41
Ricky: yeah

01:05:39.49
Flav: And in a way, if she was, and this is not like, this is how I feel,

01:05:39.88
Ricky: nope

01:05:47.99
Flav: And then she went through this and ended it and had an affair. even though I'm absolutely convinced that she's not done that, and that where I'm at now, what's the point in knowing?

01:05:57.08
Ricky: yeah

01:06:00.29
Flav: like in Like, Ricky, would you rather something happened, your missus have an affair.

01:06:05.88
Ricky: don't like these games but yeah go on all right okay oh god right right good yeah

01:06:06.49
Flav: Now, I know, Ricky, listen, listen, listen, right? So, so but but you you are convinced that she wouldn't do that, right? And then she she has an affair. Or, now let's split this the right way around that you're more comfortable with, right? So you have an affair, right?

01:06:20.95
Flav: And you you She has no idea that you could possibly do that. You have it for six weeks. It happens. It ends.

01:06:30.52
Ricky: Yeah.

01:06:31.16
Flav: And she suspects nothing. Do you tell her or not?

01:06:33.02
Ricky: Yeah.

01:06:36.82
Ricky: but I probably wouldn't tell her, no

01:06:38.74
Flav: Exactly. Would she want to know?

01:06:42.33
Ricky: Maybe.

01:06:42.46
Flav: if she if no would she want to know if there was absolutely no way of her knowing and it doesn't affect there's zero way of her of her um of of her sort of finding out and her making her life any more miserable and you know it's never going to happen again or you hope it will never happen again you'd rather not know and just carry on your life like normal and never know

01:07:01.85
Ricky: Let sleeping dogs lie.

01:07:03.44
Flav: Let's leave in dogs. like Exactly. So my my point here is is I'm never going to look at her phone unless unless it comes across like I feel like, oh, she is cheating on me.

01:07:12.95
Ricky: Right, okay.

01:07:13.94
Flav: And in that instance, I'll go, all right, okay. So that I don't want to be in a relationship where I'm being cheated on. That would completely crush me.

01:07:22.65
Ricky: Yeah, i can I can hear it in your voice already and it's hypothetical thing.

01:07:22.89
Flav: So I need to… so Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I try, i ah so the point is, is no, i don't I wouldn't, if I'm sitting in normal and I'm watching EastEnders or watching the thing, football's on go, oh, there's all these left our phone.

01:07:35.52
Flav: Let me look through it. why am What am I doing?

01:07:37.00
Ricky: No, no, no, no.

01:07:37.68
Flav: What am I doing here?

01:07:40.03
Ricky: I'm always of the mindset of it it it it either happens or it doesn't. like it Like it's either, like, ah you know, I wouldn't ever dream of going through my missus' phone or having a look. I've got no, I'm not inclined in that way or anything like that. I couldn't give a shit. But if, you know, she cheats on me, then that's, it's already happened. you know what I mean?

01:08:01.14
Ricky: Like, so you deal with it then. But until then, a I just, i have that trust that I'm not going to fucking do anything like that at all.

01:08:12.26
Ricky: Couldn't give a shit.

01:08:13.94
Flav: Yeah. Nice.

01:08:15.11
Ricky: Well, that's been Lads Anonymous. I hope you've enjoyed it. Next week, we're going to be talking about dreams. Send in anything you've got, any stories, any weird fucked up dreams. We want to hear it. Ladsanonpod at gmail.com.

01:08:32.82
Ricky: And until then, we will see you next week.

01:08:37.15
Flav: nice

01:08:46.65
Flav: Thank you.