#156 | Oceanic Monsters | Orcas Wear Salmon Hats

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Flav: Yeah, I um of've um took a long-winded process of becoming approved for medical cannabis. And you have to have, you meet with these doctors, the dogs doctors appear online and you have a meeting with him and there's ah what he's ah he's sort of like your dealer, but he's a consultant doctor.

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Ricky: Wow, okay. Right.

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Flav: And you say, they do everything. They do bud. They do, i've I've got some oil that I put under my tongue. If you don't want to smoke it, ah you get vape cartridges.

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Ricky: ah Oh, oh, right, okay.

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Flav: And I'm kind of part of me thinking it's not gonna be real weed though, because this is a doctor.

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Ricky: Yeah, it's, yeah, pharmacy, innit?

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Flav: It's a pharmacy. It's actually like you speak to a person. They talk about the things. um And yeah, yeah, so they they you can get whatever you want, purple haze.

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Flav: yes

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Ricky: No, really.

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Flav: I don't think it's called purple haze, but it's particular sound. And and and um yeah, so I've been taking this oil off my feet. So he said to me, but there's actually been a trial. This this oil had just come off a trial specifically for peripheral neuropathy that I have.

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Flav: So this is this has just come off hot off the trials.

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Ricky: ah Okay. and Good.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: Good. I take it. Good. Positive results.

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Flav: I don't know. Yeah, so from the trials, apparently so, yeah. I've only done it two days. but The problem I've got, and you'll notice, is my tolerance for THD is pretty low. I've never been able to smoke weed and without having an unpleasant experience.

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Ricky: Yeah. Ooh.

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Flav: Half a joint in the garden is one thing. my mum giving me a ah but pet making some weed cake and bringing it to my house and um I have one section of it and literally i have taken almost every drug you can think of barring crack and heroin I would say everything else I've tried stuff I don't even know the name of of I've put it my mouth I did this drug called medicine i've never I've had four capsules of it I've never seen it since or again

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Right.

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Ricky: That's correct. Where did you get it? Where did you even get it from?

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Flav: Just a mate who had it.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: who's who's you You've met him, actually.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: but Met him at Spurs the other day. And ah yeah, this was the most experimental mental thing I've ever done. And and ah you speak to a dealer and ask them for medicine. It's never going to happen.

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Flav: So I don't know how. I need to get more of it.

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Ricky: What, like, and even, like, on a Telegram or anything like that?

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Flav: I haven't been able to find it. I haven't actively looked, to be fair. But yeah, so some…

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Ricky: Right. Okay.

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Flav: ah um the Yeah, this medicine. And that that was like a synthetic mushroom. It was mental. Most extreme trip that I've ever had.

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Flav: But it was in you were in control of it. It weren't like, if you do too many mushrooms, you you're spangled, right?

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: If you take too much LSD, you're in a bad way and you're not getting off for 12 hours for that.

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Ricky: Yeah. That's not fun.

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Flav: No, i I don't like LSD. i mean yeah I would never actively encourage anybody to do any drugs, um but I think the the calmest kind of drug and friendliest is mushrooms.

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Flav: However, they that can also be horrendously bad.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: depending on what's going on. um But I've been doing this, um cannabis is something I've never been able to tolerate. Like I said, my mum brought over that tray of weed cake. I had one bit, it folded me up.

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Flav: It folded me up. I've literally felt like my body was folding in on itself.

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Ricky: Yeah. I mean, I've not been that bad on weed, but I have like standard white, you know. What about back in the day? We used to we used to give it a bloody good go. Bucket bongs and all that lot.

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Flav: I know, i was thinking about that. I don't know what what happened. Maybe my mum dosed me, I don't know. that there was and what's happening, what's happening weed and most drugs affect your central nervous system.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: um And then what's happening when you feel like your your legs are… but i felt like my my legs were bending up trying to touch my head forehead. That's how fucked I was. And it's simply, it's your nerve, all your nerves misfiring because if you've you've been done too much.

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Ricky: Fuck.

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Flav: I thought I was asking, I've got to go to hospital. I've got to go hospital. This isn't right. This isn't right.

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: So you could imagine i'm quite and I'm quite cautious when taking these oils.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Yeah. And so what is half ah half a milligram of oil under the tongue, which isn't a lot.

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Ricky: So.

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Flav: It's not a lot.

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Ricky: And do you feel, do you feel anything?

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: Like once you, to once you take it, you're like, Oh God, I feel, I feel stoned or a bit, i feel a bit.

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Flav: ah You feel with this because it's such a small amount, and like 0.5 of a milligram. There's 20 milligrams in the entire bottle. So imagine a seasoned person would be doing five milligrams, something Maybe, I don't know.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: But do half a milligram because I'm not not the seasoned.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: And yeah, you do after, i i don't you don't feel like I'm whacked on the, sofa and I can't move that kind of feeling although if you took more you would you just feel slightly stoned after about 45 minutes and then you're like and then I just like I'm going to go to bed and then I sleep all night but I'm waking up groggy the last few nights I'm waking up groggy I feel a bit groggy now but we like weed like ah what do you call it like a cotton head remember that

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Ricky: This is mad.

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Ricky: ah

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.

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Ricky: yeah Yeah, that that was the that was one of the main things. i like When I was younger, from probably the age eighteen to thirty eight smoked weed every day and that that range from you know having uh building my tolerance up to being able to smoke a whole spliff stab it out roll up another one and keep going like that and then until the end it just ah like it just didn't agree with me at all as in panic attacks and so i had to knock it on the head but i thoroughly enjoyed my time smoking weed anyway the part where i was going to sleep

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: heavily stained, I would wake up in the morning and it was so hard to get out of bed. When I did, my eyes felt so sunken into my head, no matter how many coffees and stuff, it really, it was impossible to get going in the morning.

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Ricky: Really hard to get going.

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Flav: yeah

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Ricky: at my my kind of my, ah not my mind state, but mainly like my, um,

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Ricky: focused to get ready and to know. like i know I've got to do X, Y, and Z, but it's just like, you can't really be fucked, man.

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Flav: Yeah, I might need to do it like when I get home ah like six o'clock.

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Ricky: So when when when they've dispensed this to you,

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Flav: Just come your door. Just post like like like when you order stuff on Telegram. What happens is is the man you talk to the man. was like, this is my issue. ah He goes through your notes. He checks it because I've got an official diagnosis now.

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Flav: I went to the hospital and they did tests on my legs and stuff.

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Ricky: That's good.

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Flav: and So it's not it's era it's not just me making stuff up to get free weed. you have It's not as easy as people.

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Ricky: What…

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Flav: I thought it was going to be really simple and they just they're willing new customers.

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Ricky: Right.

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Flav: For me, it was quite a long-winded process. It never felt that I wasn't going to be approved, but… they didn't you need stuff from the from the hospital you can't just go and go i feel depressed can i have some weed that's not gonna work what for my feet no like pads on your on your skin and then they sent electric pulse down a pad you know like do you remember those pens that were actually like zappers yeah sure you love those yeah it felt like that going down the leg so wasn't too bad and then they want to check your reaction so whether or not

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Ricky: Right. What were the tests? Like, needles in the leg and shit. Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. Oh, God.

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Flav: You know, you get those instantly, if you belt bang your knee and your the leg kicks out, yeah that's to do with your nervous system.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: So and they just had do all those tests like that. And they said, yeah, you've got a small fiber neuropathy, basically.

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Ricky: And you've got oil, but ka you said about but like a buddage. Yeah.

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Flav: but Yeah, yeah yes but so you're talking to the guy, talking to the guy, and he's like, what how do you want to ingest this? Because the oil was specific to my condition. And it suited me.

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Flav: um i don't really want to be so smoking up spliffs around the house because the kids can smell it. Not that they haven't tried these stuff. They probably have, but I just don't i don't want i don't want it to be kind of really normal.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: um

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Ricky: I'm surprised that like smoking would be recommended.

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Flav: don't They don't recommend it. They recommend you vaporize it.

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Ricky: ah right.

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Flav: But it's just bud.

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Ricky: Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Or you can buy vape cartridges directly from them.

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Ricky: Oh, that would be, oh yeah.

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Flav: Yeah, they they where they never, ever suggest get some Rizla, get some Bakke, build up a Zoot.

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Ricky: Yeah. Silver, kingskin, cutter's choice.

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Flav: isn' Yeah. that that No, what they offer you is ways to ingest it methods.

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: Yeah. So.

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Ricky: Fuck. ah That that um time that you said about when you ate the hash cake, ah the weed cake, my missus.

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Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

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Ricky: So when i used to smoke loads, I had this ah grinder and it and it had like three levels. And at the bottom had loads of the um like the dust

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: and Is it called like key for?

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Flav: That was crystals in it.

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah. Crystals key for something like that.

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Flav: ho

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Ricky: of yeah um

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Flav: It was basically the crystals off the weed would fall and you'd catch them and it had like a like a really potent powder.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: That's right. And I use that and I mixed it to make weed cakes and obviously I'm a fucking smoker and I ain't gonna fucking touch me, son. no you're dealing with. So I made these ash cakes, gave one to the miss.

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Flav: You know am, kid!

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Ricky: Yeah. Okay, one to the missus, one to me in the front room. And it was honestly getting up those stairs was it was like climbing El Capitan.

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Ricky: It was fucking insane. I had to leave my missus on the sofa with a bucket next to her.

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Flav: She was being sick.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Oh, my God.

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Ricky: Yeah. just had to be like, I've got to go. I've got get out of here.

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Flav: You dosed her.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: yeah ah Yeah, no, it's terrible.

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Ricky: It's a bad one.

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Flav: Terrible. um but If you overdo weed, I don't think… I mean, obviously, if you overdo fentanyl, you're dead, right?

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Ricky: Yeah, that's bad.

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Flav: But you don't feel anything. You're dead.

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Ricky: No.

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Flav: ah Same with heroin. I imagine parrot pretty… ah Well, I suppose it's probably like a a euphoric way to die because…

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Ricky: ah I was going say, it'd feel quite nice, wouldn't it?

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Flav: i don't i don't but I'm not pretending to understand what dying off heroin is like, but if you're going to one way, I bet most of that feels all right.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: um Doing too much cocaine, again, come down is horrible. You can risk a heart attack for sure.

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Ricky: yeah yeah

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Flav: All those things, but… It's take too much. It's just like, oh, like maybe a bit of a panic attack, something like that. um What else? Too much ecstasy. Again, you could put yourself in a really bad way, but take too much, hospitalized.

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Flav: um But weed, you feel like you're going to die. You feel like, no, actually, I know that other people have said this, but they don't understand. This is the worst. This is the worst. um You can't die from overdosing from weed, but it feels like you're dying.

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Ricky: And I think where your brain tries to process, it's just a plant. You you can't die, but you you feel like it's the end.

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Flav: Yeah, I'm going to be the first.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: There was always a first. There's something. No one was worried about pills before Leah Betts.

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Ricky: and No, exactly.

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Flav: There's always a first one.

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Ricky: ah Oh, fuck you, no. That is absolutely… oh Yeah, I'm not… good So you going to carry on doing that?

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Flav: Yeah, for a month. I can't wake up this dog groggy generally. I need needs to get used to it.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: But you build up a tolerance, I think.

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Ricky: Tolerance. ye Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: I'd do it earlier than night, yeah, but we'll see, man.

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Ricky: We'll see. Right. Let's go with the jinx.

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Ricky: Hello and welcome to Labs Anonymous, it's episode 156. I'm Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates, one main topic, but we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature, something only you know, and everything remains anonymous always, so sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast.

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Flav: Yeah,

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Ricky: How are you, apart from being tired?

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Flav: um yeah I'm all right, man. I finally get on the other side of the financial situation that I was in.

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Ricky: Oh, oh.

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Flav: Well, say financial situation, just borrowing lots of money and having to repay it back for the house um and having builders in and stuff. It's all really expensive. So, yeah, um I would reckon another month and I'll i'll ah at least be on an even, I'll be back to even apart from the money owe my dad.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: Right, i yeah, and I know, but forget about that one. That's, you know, you you know you you pay it, but it's not like…

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Flav: No. Yeah, im I'm not having like the bank call me and stuff like that. Yeah.

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Ricky: Mate, that's great news. That must be like a you know ah ah weight off your shoulders.

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Flav: It's been, yeah it's been 18 months basically of it.

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Ricky: I can imagine that's

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Ricky: that's a lot to take, to to bear on one's shoulders.

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Flav: Yeah, it's stressful.

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Ricky: And knowing you, you probably haven't ah confessed any of this to your wife or anything or to anyone that helped.

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Flav: um I mean, only in the practical sense in that we've got to stop bringing the builders back without, you know, don't just start ordering work.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: We need to discuss what work needs to be done.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: And then and and we need to build up some money before we take new work on. So that's what happened. We just stopped working on the house, which is fine because it's Liverpool, as you've seen, but.

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Ricky: Liverpool fucking hell, boy.

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Flav: Yeah, it's nice. But the it's so castle, but yeah, the it's ah it still needs work.

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Ricky: Castle.

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Flav: You sort of, it needs like painting and it needs something.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Yeah, but we're, um yeah, it's ah from having some money to then not have, well, having a house and no money wasn't as easy as I thought the stress.

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Flav: it was sort waking up at four o'clock in the morning going, how am I going to do this? But we got through it and it's all good.

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Ricky: Mate, I am pleased for you. That is ah great to hear.

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Flav: How are you?

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Ricky: Yeah, I'm all good, mate. I'm all good. like um I think yesterday we did a pod together, but I've just checked in for my flights to Alicante.

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Ricky: So the the usual Spain holiday is going to be 10 days, end of the month. Looking forward to that and

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Flav: what what What did you think? Did no part of you go, um ah don't really want to go back to the… cause you not I understood before you had a villa there that was your grandparents.

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Ricky: m Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: Makes sense. Just go there, cheap holiday. But you could go anywhere and you're still going back to Torre Vieja.

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Ricky: Cool. So the reason why it's this it's known as the last dance. so So, yeah, we…

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Flav: One last time. both

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Ricky: we and Well, it's just going to be me and the girls, and then my mother-in-law is joining halfway through the holiday.

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Flav: So other other family members?

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Ricky: No, I can't say before I take that back.

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Flav: um Okay, fair enough. Then, can you then maybe do something different than after that?

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Ricky: I will be. oh

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Flav: And maybe call me and we can arrange, we say this every year, but… you

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Ricky: yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, no i mean, so the the reason why we got like, because the the family villa sold in I don't know, let's just say April.

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Flav: I mean, we wouldn't have been able to do it this year, but…

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Ricky: And, but there was always this chance of maybe we could still go there. Is the sale going to happen and all that lot. And my kids, they've made friends over there.

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Flav: Gotcha. All

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Ricky: And for the past three years, we've been going at the same time as another family. The kids hang around at the pool and we just get on with it and stuff.

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Flav: right.

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Ricky: So that is why it's going to be the kind of the the last dance for that one, which is great.

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Flav: Fair enough.

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Ricky: And I want to say bye to it. And, and all of that, and they're going to be working on my grandparents' hold villa.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: So I'd like to just have a little wo look see how that's going, and I checked in with the Airbnb, giving them my documents and all that. so looking ah forward to that.

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Flav: Where is it? Torrevieja or Torre…

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Ricky: to Yeah, Torrevieja, yeah.

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Flav: term

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Flav: a Nice little beach, isn't Oh, you're going be going in the water now when definitely no great whites are in the med?

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Oh, mate, fucking hell, fucking hell.

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Flav: do you ever go Do you go in the sea?

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Ricky: ah thigh, height, actually, maybe a little bit up to, maybe say, stomach, stomach disease.

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Flav: Do you not go snorkelling and stuff?

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Ricky: Fuck off, no way.

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Flav: What? Why? why but It's funny we assume we're talking about this today, aren't we?

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Ricky: But I just, I don't know, I don't want to go under the water.

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Flav: but the they on um when When I went to… It's a kid's favourite holiday, right? This is mad. You think of all the places you want to go and all the wonderful places you could go.

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Ricky: yeah. yeah

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Flav: But they love Benidorm. They want to go back to Benidorm.

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Ricky: No, do they?

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Flav: Yeah, they they just thought Benidorm was great. Great fun. Loads to do. Loads kids. Other kids. I know they're a lot younger. We talked about 67 years ago we went. But yeah, arcades and stuff. It's like everything they want.

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Flav: So I don't want.

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Ricky: No, the the thing is, like, when you're a parent, you just want what's best for your kids and you take that you take the back seat and you're like,

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Flav: i don't want at all.

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Flav: You want?

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Flav: You want, well, you want them to be entertained.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: That's the thing. There's a bored kid around you. who is nothing more irritating than a bored teenager just sitting around you.

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Ricky: No.

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Flav: I understand you're bored. Go and be bored somewhere else. You don't have to be bored here, do you?

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: You be bored over there.

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Ricky: It a tennis ball. Fuck off.

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Flav: is ah um but but But we went to the beach, Rick, obviously, because that's what Benidorm is, one long, massive beach.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: It is, yeah.

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Flav: It's well long, it's well long, fucking long beach.

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: ah Me and me and we Will go out snorkelling for about an hour. you go Because basically it's shallow and very it goes up quite far and the rock the rock rocky edge runs along a good 100 feet out to sea.

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Flav: So even when you get to the edge of the rocky ledge where it starts to get deeper, is you're still in relative shallow water like, I don't know, like seven feet of water.

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Ricky: and

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Right, but knowing what you know about shallowness and that's still… Hang on a second. Have you got one of the… Because they've got those new entire face masks with the…

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Flav: The kids had those.

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Ricky: Yeah, they're cool.

00:18:53.40
Flav: Yeah, yeah they are cool. and The ones you get in on the front at Benidorm, they kind of let water in and they're not the best.

00:19:02.58
Ricky: Yeah, the goggles that are really tight and your eyes are going to pop out you're like, fucked.

00:19:05.94
Flav: ah Yeah, but when I went to Croatia, went you know don no I googled, has there ever been any shark attacks in the Adriatic? That's what googled anyway. And there'd been one about 100 years ago, and that was it.

00:19:23.64
Flav: But that one, 100 years ago, I'm still thinking, where they're in they're in their war, though.

00:19:23.96
Ricky: Safe. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:27.92
Flav: They're in there. And actually, the great w there was a Great White spotted feeding, and that was in the Adriatic.

00:19:35.67
Ricky: Wow.

00:19:35.93
Flav: which is the Adriatic Sea goes down between Croatia and Italy and into the Med.

00:19:41.50
Ricky: Yeah.

00:19:42.30
Flav: um So yeah, you know, it's in there. but But because I know what I know and you know what you know, you know that you're um you're not, there isn't going to great white coming up to the shore in Spain.

00:19:48.06
Ricky: o

00:19:56.15
Ricky: Right. Okay. Yeah. And that's fine.

00:19:58.39
Flav: There's always a first time. There has been a lot of shark attacks recently. There's been hundreds.

00:20:01.52
Ricky: it's It's been mad.

00:20:03.09
Flav: It's kicking off big time.

00:20:03.83
Ricky: it It is kicking off.

00:20:05.14
Flav: Fucking crocodillos getting involved as well now.

00:20:05.31
Ricky: water yeah it

00:20:07.10
Flav: Aren't they? Cheeky cunt. What would you rather if you was in the sea and you've got a great white looking at you or a crocodile swimming at you?

00:20:16.95
Ricky: Yeah.

00:20:18.54
Flav: Saltwater. What would you prefer?

00:20:19.51
Ricky: Oh, my God. um I think I'd probably have to go great why

00:20:26.61
Flav: Yes.

00:20:27.54
Ricky: Because you know it's going to be like, it's going to nick an artery straight away. Tell you another way. It's going to be quicker than a crocodile.

00:20:35.31
Flav: I think you can we can make this scenario about the normal behavior of both. And so you might not get attacked by the Great White. It might swim around you. It might circle. You might decide, actually, i don't want to engage with this for X, Y, and zd And if you ever watch the Malibu Artist on YouTube, I watch everything he posts, post brings out.

00:20:47.54
Ricky: Yeah.

00:20:55.51
Ricky: yeah

00:20:56.38
Flav: And it's most all most of his work now, most of his work is just sending drones out in California.

00:21:02.01
Ricky: Yeah.

00:21:02.64
Flav: Where's Malibu? I feel like it's California.

00:21:05.21
Ricky: Yeah, it's California, yeah, yeah

00:21:05.28
Flav: don't know. Right. Yeah. he's in California and he's just drones with like kids on boogie boards and behind him is like a 12 foot great white.

00:21:14.46
Ricky: yeah.

00:21:14.90
Flav: ah but they never attack.

00:21:15.06
Ricky: Yeah.

00:21:16.70
Flav: He's never caught an attack on his on his GoPro and he's been filming for five or six years. And there was constantly sharks around people in there.

00:21:25.30
Ricky: Yeah.

00:21:25.34
Flav: It's it's top down, clear water. And there's like 13 great whites in this area.

00:21:30.78
Ricky: what What I love now is because people do this, and not just him, there's quite a few people that send drones up, but you'll see like fishermen or you'll see people just like kind of, ah they've got a boat for the day and they're swimming out to sea.

00:21:46.33
Ricky: People will see drones and they're like oh, fuck, look, there's a drone. And it's really, fuck, and the penny drops.

00:21:50.65
Flav: At

00:21:51.86
Ricky: They know why that drone's there.

00:21:53.93
Flav: least they know where the shark's there.

00:21:54.97
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:55.96
Flav: um No, it's… it's ah it's It's a strange situation you find ourselves in because ah everybody's got GoPros now. So we're seeing loads more that we never saw.

00:22:05.24
Ricky: Yeah.

00:22:07.32
Flav: Like when I was a kid, the idea that the closest I could get to a shark is if they had a shark program on BBC, like Attenborough might have done something about the blue planet or something, or a program about gravity great white sharks.

00:22:14.68
Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

00:22:21.43
Flav: and back then obviously you'd have to write down the time and remember when it was on so you didn't miss it um because there's nothing else you could have a record ah record it on a on a um vcr or something but anyway um but now you open your phone and people send me 10 sharp videos a day like that one the the one that got me the most recently was the

00:22:25.53
Ricky: Yeah.

00:22:39.06
Ricky: yeah

00:22:46.09
Flav: The kid, and these the is he's in like, i don't know where he is in the world, but where there are big sharks, and he's fishing off this kayak, which it seems to be a thing, like ocean fishing on kayaks and stuff like that.

00:22:58.10
Ricky: yeah i know i just want to say i hate those people

00:23:03.03
Flav: Yeah.

00:23:06.58
Flav: What, the their lack of fear?

00:23:08.31
Ricky: Yeah, what like you're you're in the middle of the ocean, right?

00:23:11.16
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:11.47
Ricky: You're on a fucking kayak. It's just you. It's not like you're with other people.

00:23:16.01
Flav: it's not that that isn't going to withstand a a direct hit from like a so so great white so people that don't know the ambush predators and and ideally you're for them they want to hit you before you even see them so often people are swimming and then they are smashed by a great white from below they're not like tiger sharks which are much more sort of come up and are more inquisitive and

00:23:33.02
Ricky: Yeah.

00:23:39.19
Flav: might bite you and then go yum. Whereas great whites are like smash and then they'll wait for you to bleed out and then eat you. Typically, that's how they they do it. um If it finally hit a bottom of a kayak, it would obliterate it and you're just in the water.

00:23:50.78
Ricky: Yeah.

00:23:52.54
Flav: So not only…

00:23:52.66
Ricky: Then what are you going to

00:23:54.55
Flav: Yeah, no, that's it. If it decides to eat you, there's not much you can do.

00:23:57.85
Ricky: Now what?

00:23:58.71
Flav: Now, and you're miles away from shore. You know there's a shark in the water and what are your options? When there's black bait in the water, you've been fishing.

00:24:05.69
Ricky: Oh, God.

00:24:08.35
Flav: it…

00:24:08.47
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:09.18
Flav: yeah So he's he's got fishing rods and nave's he has live bait on his rod to catch, don't know, whatever you catch out there, tuna or all those, anything in the sea, basically.

00:24:14.65
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:17.49
Ricky: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it it could be anything. yeah

00:24:22.97
Flav: And so, and he is, he if he's older than 15, I'd be amazed. Then he's out on this water on his own.

00:24:28.57
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:29.24
Flav: And you you hear him with his good, he goes, what? the heck He doesn't swear throughout the whole video. And there is this giant great white.

00:24:36.06
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:36.12
Flav: It's like mature. So you can see the top of it is is blue. They're a dark blue. And the bottom is the you know really white stomach.

00:24:45.66
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:47.19
Flav: Do you know why they have that?

00:24:49.45
Ricky: No.

00:24:49.91
Flav: It's like camouflage. So if you're looking from below, you can't see the white belly. You can see it but it's hard to see.

00:24:55.86
Ricky: Right.

00:24:56.50
Flav: And you're looking from below, you can't see because it's it sort of reflects what the light above. That's why they're like that.

00:25:03.42
Ricky: Dirty bastards. Fucking hell.

00:25:04.61
Flav: Cheeky busses.

00:25:05.30
Ricky: Yes, that's fucking great. That

00:25:07.51
Flav: And so he sees this shark and he's like, great white, great white, fucking huge, for hecking huge great white. He goes, I'm getting out of here. When he's out, there's nowhere out of there. It's just a rock face.

00:25:20.44
Ricky: Oh, I know the one you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:22.17
Flav: And the shark follows him for about, it's a four and a half minute video.

00:25:25.53
Ricky: Yeah.

00:25:26.23
Flav: And this shark is on his ass.

00:25:28.41
Ricky: Yeah.

00:25:28.89
Flav: I mean, it's not, it's sort of, I wouldn't say chasing because the shark could swim faster in the kayak, but it's just following. Oh man, imagine being in that situation. He cuts the live bait off. took its

00:25:37.59
Ricky: Yeah. so So with that as well, and um what I read is well about that, he had kayaked to near these islands or something, and it was like an hour away from where he was.

00:25:48.50
Flav: Yeah, it took him it took him about an hour to get home.

00:25:49.21
Ricky: Yeah.

00:25:51.86
Flav: And all the water time you're looking in the water, which is, and you're in the kayak, you're sitting in the water pretty much.

00:25:57.66
Ricky: I mean, not why would you do that?

00:26:00.12
Flav: I don't know.

00:26:00.15
Ricky: I can't get it through my head. And the bit where he's like, he's rowing away and he throws the bottle. He's got a drinking bottle.

00:26:08.22
Flav: Yeah.

00:26:08.34
Ricky: And because the great white shark is interested in like his, um, He hasn't got an engine, but whatever's steers.

00:26:14.58
Flav: right in In the rudder, he's in the rudder.

00:26:15.67
Ricky: Yeah. The rudder, it. The rudder. Um, and he's like, fuck it's the the great white shark is looking at the rudder and fascinated by it. He's trying to get away. And then he throws a water bottle up behind him, so hoping that that would kind of distract it.

00:26:29.14
Flav: Distract the shark.

00:26:30.07
Ricky: And it does for a little bit. And then it just starts tailing him again. I read as well that because he's near quite quite near an Island, and um, And I'm, yeah, and I'm thinking, mate, just fucking row to the island and just get on it and just wait for the shark to go.

00:26:38.55
Flav: Yeah, you see it in the background.

00:26:47.09
Ricky: You're saved. And he said, the closer you get to that island, the more that a great white shark from underneath would think you're a seal.

00:26:55.26
Flav: i

00:26:56.06
Ricky: So he was like, I'm not going anywhere near that island.

00:26:59.19
Flav: ah so he's in easeies So I just found it, right, as you were talking there. I didn't know that. So um on 30th of January 2025, Wales was kayak fishing off the coast of Northland, New Zealand, targeting yellowtail kingfish with a live bait trailing behind his kayak. He initially thought a kingfish was chasing his bait, but turned around to discover a 4.5 meter, that's massive, 15 feet, great white shark directly behind him.

00:27:26.86
Flav: Realising the shark had been interested in his kayak and the bait, he cut the bait loose and began paddling for shore. The shark followed him for around eight minutes at time, swimming close to the rudder and circling beneath him.

00:27:38.02
Flav: Throughout the ordeal, his head-mounted camera captured his nervously talking to the shark, saying, please leave me alone, bro. Please don't attack me. Wales kept calm, avoiding making sudden movements, and continued paddling until the shark eventually lost interest, and he reached the shore unharmed.

00:27:53.56
Ricky: Can you imagine eight minutes of going through that?

00:27:56.78
Flav: Nah. And it says to Shaw, like you said, there wasn't a beach near him. He had to go around the island to find the beach.

00:28:05.66
Ricky: God, I just don't get it.

00:28:07.02
Flav: Legend though, man. What a legend. He's 19. He sounds young as well.

00:28:09.85
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:10.20
Flav: Might sound a lot younger than that.

00:28:11.26
Ricky: If you've not, a i um because this is an an amazing clip, I will but i'll put it in the pod details and you have to watch it. It's fucking incredible.

00:28:19.74
Flav: If you can find the longest one, then that that would be great.

00:28:21.46
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:22.74
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:22.87
Ricky: Yeah, for sure. um So we need to talk about this Medchark as well, the the spotting of it.

00:28:28.28
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:30.16
Ricky: So we've been speaking about great whites in the Mediterranean, that, you know, they have been there, not really been spotted. i mean, the fishermen say that I saw a great white and there's been a lot of tails, but there hasn't been anything actually physically recorded, has there?

00:28:46.73
Ricky: Not visually,

00:28:47.32
Flav: ah only Only there has been a couple of things where you see juvenile great whites in between, well, where this shark was spotted, actually, um in between Tunisia and the bottom of Sicily, which is, yeah, so in in that area, that has historically been known to be kind of a nursery for great white sharks.

00:29:01.40
Ricky: Yeah.

00:29:10.17
Flav: However, they know that they're there, but they haven't seen them. There was this footage about 18 months ago, a appeared a great white shark was at the surface chewing on something, found a turtle or something like that.

00:29:21.78
Ricky: Oh, fuck, really?

00:29:22.71
Flav: But it was a small one, whereas this was an, I think it was an adult male, was it?

00:29:26.46
Ricky: Yeah.

00:29:28.76
Flav: Not sure. Yeah.

00:29:29.69
Ricky: Yeah, I think it was a male, actually.

00:29:31.77
Flav: Yeah.

00:29:32.22
Ricky: but um So these divers had dived to a, I believe it was a shipwreck, and they were clearing fishing nets from the shipwreck.

00:29:40.89
Flav: Correct, yeah.

00:29:41.59
Ricky: And they were the guy was just recording, and then just out of the out of the ocean…

00:29:48.54
Flav: Huge great work.

00:29:49.46
Ricky: comes cruising a big great white, big male great white. And the video footage, it's not fucking grainy. It's not waving around.

00:29:58.36
Flav: No, 100% a great work, yeah.

00:29:58.54
Ricky: It's not, I don't know what it is. What could it be? It's so clear. Now, knowing that that is swimming in the meds, um And, you know, the global warming, there's been a lot of different kind of climate changes within the sea, ah the the way the the temperature of the sea is raised, and i can't remember what it's what it's called now, but there's… There's something happening in America where the the ah maybe the the cold water is mixing with the warm water and it's happens it normally happens in April or something, but it's happened a lot earlier. But there's been a lot of great white sharks spotted.

00:30:37.14
Ricky: Now, with all this being said, and this video footage, do you think that there might be an increased amount of great white sharks that we would see near our shores.

00:30:44.99
Flav: The…

00:30:52.09
Ricky: Not as in your inkcorwa you're Cornwall, you're going, you're fucking paddling in your ankles.

00:30:55.64
Flav: what the the minute the the the d m

00:31:03.70
Flav: the the the the The temperatures around Cornwall, certainly in the summer, and the pilt seal population means there should be great whites there. but There's nothing wrong with the circuit the the the environment.

00:31:17.49
Flav: It's just that they've never been or haven't been seen. but If you think about how closely related like the salmon shark and the mako is to a great white, and they are regularly seen in the water.

00:31:25.11
Ricky: Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:27.90
Flav: Do you what mean? so And we know that what a huge shark was caught in ah Malta in malta ah in the 80s.

00:31:33.30
Ricky: Yeah.

00:31:36.10
Flav: It was considered to be the biggest great white ever caught, although having read about it more recently, they think that the it was a massive exaggeration, but it was a huge shark.

00:31:45.18
Ricky: Yeah.

00:31:45.59
Flav: Like they said, 23 feet, which is, you know, that's the size of jaws in the film, jaws 25 feet. So um you've seen the pictures, haven't you, of of that shark hanging?

00:31:55.10
Ricky: Yeah, have, yeah.

00:31:56.47
Flav: And that's, you know, that's closer to Sicily than it is Tunisia.

00:32:00.63
Ricky: That's fucking mental.

00:32:01.75
Flav: So, yeah, I do think… the The scientist said, who who videoed it said, like, this is like ah light lightning strike, you know, winning the lottery. is

00:32:10.65
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:11.70
Flav: The chances of you ever seeing one of these is just nothing. But they're eating something.

00:32:17.40
Ricky: Like, you going on holiday and doing the snuggle, mate, okay, right, right, right, no. but that the chances are very, you know, almost impossible.

00:32:29.14
Ricky: But with the temperatures changing, do you think we'll see, like, because in America and Australia, you you regularly get people walking their dogs and they'll look out to the coast and they'll see a great white shark fin.

00:32:42.39
Flav: Yeah.

00:32:42.82
Ricky: They'll see the shadows. Do you think we'll eventually get to a place where sharks, bigger sharks, will will come closer to where we are?

00:32:48.50
Flav: Big sharks.

00:32:52.12
Flav: ah I don't know. ah ah not thinking like in terms of like bull sharks and and and tiger sharks and… um You know, they they they require a certain climate and I'm not sure we'll ever get to that.

00:33:10.84
Flav: Not in our lifetimes.

00:33:10.84
Ricky: o

00:33:12.49
Flav: But Great White it should be here already.

00:33:14.84
Ricky: Do you…

00:33:16.57
Flav: I'd love it.

00:33:16.68
Ricky: I hope, yeah, do you hope there's a little bit of…

00:33:18.36
Flav: Absolutely. Imagine how incredible that would be.

00:33:22.92
Ricky: Oh, mate, I'd love it. ah ah It's one of my dreams to see a great white in the sea. are not not like If I had the opportunity to go cage diving, I would like to say I'd pay my money, I'd get in a wetsuit, I'd have my legs dangled off, ready to get in the cage, ah but I know i would be like, I can't do this.

00:33:34.52
Flav: Yeah.

00:33:44.79
Ricky: I literally cannot do this.

00:33:46.36
Flav: Yeah.

00:33:47.00
Ricky: I would shit it. There there is no chance would do it.

00:33:51.32
Flav: ah You would.

00:33:53.23
Ricky: Oh, mate, it's fucking mental.

00:33:56.92
Flav: I don't know, man. You've got to.

00:33:57.82
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah,

00:34:00.00
Flav: I liked it when, like, know when these celebrities, when they went shark fishing?

00:34:04.60
Ricky: yeah, yeah. Yeah.

00:34:05.50
Flav: they No, not shark fishing.

00:34:05.73
Ricky: No, no, fuck that.

00:34:06.42
Flav: Experiencing with sharks. I loved that. um and But I was really jealous that they got to do these things. Except a bit swimming through a shipwreck. that That bit I wouldn't have liked.

00:34:17.60
Flav: It's all dark.

00:34:17.79
Ricky: nay no fuck that

00:34:19.96
Flav: And there's like, there was two sharks in there. Not bull sharks, but I'm in danger, but still fucking, not the last thing you want to see in pitch black with just a torch.

00:34:27.94
Ricky: Oh, fucking hell. Fuck that. where like We love, obviously, love great white sharks. Just been speaking about it. Orcas.

00:34:38.42
Ricky: Now, i know a lot of people that come out and they say orcas are the king of the ocean. And I don't want to believe that.

00:34:45.14
Flav: Yeah.

00:34:46.96
Ricky: Okay.

00:34:47.22
Flav: Well, you you want sharks to be?

00:34:47.52
Ricky: what whatever Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Great white sharks. Number one for me. Just because we've seen a couple of orcas attack a great white it doesn't mean anything, right? But you can't deny that Orcas are…

00:35:01.08
Flav: Yeah, they are top they are top of the apex predators. They are at top.

00:35:04.12
Ricky: Oh, um don't say that.

00:35:04.64
Flav: In terms of the ocean, they are number one for sure. Yeah. and what's interesting about them is that they don't even… Only four people have have been killed by an orca.

00:35:16.47
Ricky: Wow, really? Really?

00:35:17.50
Flav: Yeah, and all of them are in captivity. There's never been a single documented attack on a human being, or at least seen attack on a human being, ever, from an orca.

00:35:28.59
Ricky: That's fucking mental.

00:35:29.75
Flav: It is, isn't it? It's like, what, why, surely they're, mean, sharks typically, apparently, according to research, are much more likely to have thought you were something else in the ocean than thinking I'm actually going be hunting human beings.

00:35:45.36
Flav: Whereas they would want to hunt seals. You might think the amount of fat and blubber on a seal, the amount of calories that are in in a seal compared to humans.

00:35:56.31
Ricky: Yeah.

00:35:57.69
Flav: But with orcas, they must know the difference because it's not there's not even been…

00:36:01.19
Ricky: that they are really clever, really clever. Like, have you seen that the, um, those orcas that have been coordinating attacks on boats?

00:36:10.07
Flav: Yeah, love that. That was during so during lockdown.

00:36:12.44
Ricky: Yeah.

00:36:13.21
Flav: They went away, didn't they?

00:36:14.71
Ricky: Yeah.

00:36:15.45
Flav: And then when the boats came back, they were like, this is better without you lot.

00:36:19.42
Ricky: Yeah.

00:36:20.41
Flav: And it's just a gang of orcas. It's not all of them. Do you know some orcas have traditions due to their pod, where some of them would wear salmon as hats.

00:36:24.11
Ricky: It's mental.

00:36:34.03
Flav: I've told you about this before, I'm pretty sure.

00:36:35.83
Ricky: No.

00:36:36.95
Flav: ah yeah I've told you about this, Ricky.

00:36:38.32
Ricky: Mate, come on.

00:36:39.77
Flav: Right.

00:36:39.90
Ricky: salmons Salmon's as hats.

00:36:41.53
Flav: Yeah, listen to this. so

00:36:42.75
Ricky: Fucking hell, this is…

00:36:44.15
Flav: yeah yeah So this doesn't exist throughout all orcas, just a certain trendy group of orcas that like to wear hats when they're swimming around.

00:36:48.66
Ricky: Right.

00:36:54.84
Flav: So this, so I might be getting this wrong. Cause might find that the actual true story, but it was first observed in the eighties and then it stopped happening. And when I say stopped, they're wearing like a dead bit of salmon on the top of their head.

00:37:09.21
Flav: And there's like 10 of them all doing it. and they're all swimming around with with salmon hats and then it stopped happening.

00:37:14.14
Ricky: ah

00:37:15.86
Flav: And then it was observed again, about 30 years later, so so type in orca salmon hat is amazing.

00:37:22.81
Ricky: this is i can't believe that i've i'm doing it now so orca a salmon hat this is fucking

00:37:27.45
Flav: you looking at it

00:37:37.59
Ricky: what what how like why what i don't i don't understand do you think it's kind of like a a trophy to say i caught this fish or it's like um a greeting to each other to say like, we've got food here or what, like that's fucking mental.

00:37:37.79
Flav: it? Are you feeling that's AI? It's not. Well, somebody's a bit.

00:37:51.16
Flav: It said… It says this, the orca salmon hat refers to a bizarre and highly documented cultural fad observed in wild orca populations, lick particularly the southern resident killer whales in the Pacific Northwest where they swim around balancing dead salmon on their heads like hats.

00:37:54.70
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:08.63
Ricky: ah

00:38:09.43
Flav: the first documented this is first documented in the summer of 1987 when a female orca began balancing a dead fish on her head they that the look quickly spread like a viral fashion trend through multiple pods just as quickly as it started the craze faded out by by the following year however after a 37 year hiatus the trend made a surprising comeback when wow watchers spotted an orca reviving the bizarre behavior Because orcas are highly social and intelligent, scientists believe the behaviour is an example of a learned orca culture, while researchers aren't entirely certain of the motive.

00:38:41.55
Flav: Theories suggest it could be playfulness, prey abundance, way a way of showing off their hunting success, or to signal higher food availability to other whales.

00:38:47.54
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:53.67
Ricky: Mate, they are, they they're clever bastards, aren't they?

00:38:56.89
Flav: Yeah, I'm into that.

00:38:58.46
Ricky: Have you seen them in the sea where they're where they're playing, but they, um like, they'll swim down or swim next to a turtle or a fish, and they'll use their tail to whack it, to stun it, and they're just, like, kind of like, or a a seal or whatever.

00:39:08.63
Flav: Yeah, yeah, all right.

00:39:13.52
Flav: I saw the one, yeah, I've seen that, and it goes flying in the air, like 50 feet in the air.

00:39:15.99
Ricky: Yeah.

00:39:17.62
Flav: Also, i was watching a video the other day, and a bloke was taking a picture of a a dolphin, couple of dolphins, and dolphin sort of teed this fish up, and with its fin, just whacked it straight at the bloke who was recording, hit him in the face.

00:39:31.26
Flav: So fucking hell, just happened there.

00:39:32.76
Ricky: The sea is a great place.

00:39:33.04
Flav: Hmm.

00:39:34.44
Ricky: Good, good place. um Have you, I don't know if, what's the difference between ah an orca and a killer whale?

00:39:41.98
Flav: say

00:39:42.52
Ricky: Right, okay. Have you seen them in, because they are found in locks in Scotland, didn't they?

00:39:48.69
Flav: No, that's't that's not real. So, hey, are you?

00:39:51.06
Ricky: What? Oh, no, don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that.

00:39:55.06
Flav: are you doing in there, you bastard? No, that's sir not in Scotland. It's a voiceover in Scotland.

00:40:01.40
Ricky: um That is fucking disappointing.

00:40:03.16
Flav: I thought as well, I checked with Stu. I mean, this might sound strange. Is he lock? He's like, no. is that there

00:40:11.86
Ricky: That is disappointing.

00:40:12.41
Flav: Yeah. Where you? are you?

00:40:16.47
Ricky: thought they were paddle boarding. That is really disappointing. the yeah The next thing on the list that I want to discuss is… I think this is the biggest…

00:40:28.86
Ricky: Maybe the blue whale.

00:40:31.45
Flav: yeah big boy, yeah.

00:40:31.58
Ricky: So blue whales bigger than a dinosaur, heart the size of a small car and its tongue weighs more than an elephant.

00:40:44.21
Flav: ah

00:40:45.88
Ricky: How does something like that exist? How does it, how does it swim? If your tongue is the same weight as an, as an elephant,

00:40:55.84
Flav: Do you know it's down to 99%? We're down to 1% of the total population because of how many, during the 19th century, how much whaling went on for oils and stuff like that.

00:41:07.05
Flav: That's why critically endangered now.

00:41:07.69
Ricky: Oh.

00:41:10.33
Ricky: Critical.

00:41:10.36
Flav: So there is orcas in locks that are accessed to sea.

00:41:14.20
Ricky: Right.

00:41:15.05
Flav: but not locks that are landlocked.

00:41:17.08
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:18.90
Flav: But yes, they're the saltwater locks. here They do enter. Just checking.

00:41:22.96
Ricky: Oh, good, good. No, no, it's good. But, um yeah, Blue Whales, man. i

00:41:28.54
Flav: ah Mental, isn't it?

00:41:31.10
Ricky: Yeah, the the the sheer size of them, again, like I was saying, I would love to go out on a boat and see a great white. To see something the size of a blue whale when you're out in a boat, I don't think, I think, i genuinely, I think I'd probably have a heart attack.

00:41:47.29
Flav: you know You know, it's so mental. I thought that that like a fish that big and all they eat is krill, which is like this tiny little shrimp.

00:41:56.44
Ricky: Shrimp.

00:41:56.50
Flav: It's like, that's it, mate.

00:41:56.82
Ricky: Shrimp.

00:41:59.00
Flav: That's all you can eat.

00:42:00.18
Ricky: It must be starving.

00:42:02.50
Flav: It's just…

00:42:02.66
Ricky: it's so fucking… Just go and eat something bigger.

00:42:04.89
Flav: yeah the and and And fucking basking sharks are swimming around with mouthfeet. You're eating plankton. You can't even see the food.

00:42:09.02
Ricky: Plankton.

00:42:10.94
Flav: Fucking mental.

00:42:12.89
Ricky: That is…

00:42:13.30
Flav: Um…

00:42:13.39
Ricky: What is that? Yeah.

00:42:15.06
Flav: don't know. It's just the way they do things. is that's what you look The glorious nature, the the sort of balance of nature, isn't it? Do you know what I mean? I'm going to be the second biggest fish in the sea.

00:42:26.39
Ricky: yeah

00:42:27.22
Flav: The two biggest sharks in the sea all are plankton feeders. You've got the whale shark and you've got the basking shark.

00:42:34.08
Ricky: Basket and shark.

00:42:35.45
Flav: and they And all what they do is eat food that is so small you can't see it. Do you know what used to fascinate me as a kid? i remember having this um book about the depths and then at the back of the book, when were kids in the 80s, you'd sometimes have like stickers and there'd be a page within the book, the child's book, the kid's book, where you'd create your own image using the stickers.

00:42:50.81
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:57.57
Flav: So of background would be like under the ocean and the floor.

00:42:59.51
Ricky: Right. Okay.

00:43:00.41
Flav: And then you put the stickers where you think the animals might live.

00:43:03.54
Ricky: Was it one of the, you know, the stickers, was it like those clear stickers that they're kind of like, they not got real hard sticking back, but you can peel them off and put them on.

00:43:10.78
Flav: No, you can take peel them off. and Yeah, exactly.

00:43:12.52
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:13.08
Flav: was one of them books.

00:43:13.20
Ricky: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

00:43:14.84
Flav: They don't have him anymore, don't think. But in the 80s, they were really popular because we didn't have fuck all them. But ah but the what fascinated me the most was the battles that sperm whales and um giant squid would have.

00:43:19.58
Ricky: ah

00:43:29.21
Ricky: right

00:43:29.27
Flav: The only thing that can hunt a giant squid. There's two things that can hunt a giant squid because of the depth of which they're found. The pressure down there is insane.

00:43:37.14
Ricky: Right. Yeah.

00:43:39.38
Flav: is the sperm whale who can dive really, really deep and goes down for hunting for squid.

00:43:45.94
Ricky: Shit.

00:43:47.03
Flav: And then there is a swordfish.

00:43:50.97
Ricky: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:52.15
Flav: Swordfish also hunt giant squid.

00:43:55.61
Ricky: I mean, yeah little cheeky little head, but yeah, fuck it now.

00:43:57.82
Flav: There, they jab them, will they?

00:44:01.35
Flav: Jook them up. That actually fascinated me. They go into the depths where there's no light and he's going down there to find a fucking giant squid to eat it. That's fucking ballsy.

00:44:11.45
Ricky: Yeah, mate. When I think about it, the, see, I've got this, ah where is it? We've got here somewhere. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? It's about the sea. We've explored less than 10% of the ocean.

00:44:29.21
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:30.20
Ricky: What do you think is actually down there? Now, do you think?

00:44:32.81
Flav: They've seen everything.

00:44:35.84
Flav: When they say explored, what does that mean? You mean we humans have been in only 10%? They've sent robots down and looked at stuff, didn't they?

00:44:40.92
Ricky: Yeah, it sent robots down, but I think like due to ah like mapping, we've we've mapped like the moon and sent scanners up there and all that lot, but only 10% of the ocean, ocean floor and all of that stuff.

00:44:44.52
Flav: Man, man.

00:44:47.77
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:54.01
Ricky: But there must be other things down there.

00:44:54.87
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:57.85
Ricky: like ah ah' I'm not saying there's a megalodon hiding down there, but there surely has to be things that are that we've not seen down there.

00:44:57.99
Flav: Probably…

00:45:10.42
Flav: I think more like, yes, there would be. um But it's more like the smaller animals, right? You know, there's not going to megalodon. That said, like, we've only mapped, I've just Googled here, we've only mapped 28.7% of the ocean floor.

00:45:25.88
Ricky: Right.

00:45:26.81
Flav: And the in in terms of what we've explored ourselves, it's 0.01% of the ocean floor. the action floor

00:45:35.10
Ricky: Fucking hell. See, like, you know when they send those cameras down and you're watching stuff and all that, and then you've got um giant squid and colossal squid.

00:45:39.80
Flav: yeah

00:45:46.10
Ricky: ah ah there's been a few cases where they haven't had, well, they found giant ones, really. they've They've never had them on camera before. They've always found them washed up dead and stuff like I've never seen them in their own environment.

00:46:01.08
Ricky: So there's very few cases of them being on camera alive down there.

00:46:01.16
Flav: Yeah.

00:46:07.16
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:46:08.22
Ricky: And have you like have you seen that? I can't remember. I think it's the colossal squid. Like their eyes are like the size of dinner plates.

00:46:11.84
Flav: Very creepy. yeah very creepy

00:46:17.05
Ricky: And they they can fucking, they like, they go on submarines and they attack anything. They're right crazy cunts.

00:46:24.47
Flav: Yeah, they are. I used to like that. That was my favorite. Squids and the sperm sperm whales having it with each other. Because the sperm whales would come up and there'd be huge scars on their head where they've got serrated suckers, haven't they?

00:46:37.40
Ricky: Fuck, yeah.

00:46:38.70
Flav: You've seen that with all the circular scars on their head.

00:46:40.15
Ricky: ya yeah, yeah.

00:46:41.94
Flav: Yeah, man. I love the ocean. I'm terrified of it more. and bo as But I'm sort of terrified of sharks. But that's where interest comes from, isn't it? It's fear. don't know.

00:46:53.14
Ricky: yeah Well, I mean, do like do you think that's why we do have this kind of a fascination with the ocean because of the fear of it

00:46:59.79
Flav: Yeah. I think the same with… Yeah, yeah. It's like these nutty Australians. Like, what's been happening in over there? It's like the crocodilos killing people, ripped off a woman two women's arms.

00:47:09.75
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:47:11.70
Flav: There was a man who got dragged out.

00:47:11.74
Ricky: Yeah.

00:47:14.14
Flav: i was trying I did a terrible thing because I was trying to find… There's apparently a video. I don't know why I wanted to watch it, but I typed in crocodile attack on um on on Instagram.

00:47:27.92
Flav: I wouldn't recommend There's been loads more than you think.

00:47:29.42
Ricky: What is it? Yeah.

00:47:34.14
Flav: those There's been lots caught on camera, yeah.

00:47:36.54
Ricky: yeah Oh God. I'm going to have to do that after we finish it That is yeah.

00:47:39.79
Flav: Why are you?

00:47:40.54
Ricky: Right up my street. That is right up my street.

00:47:43.25
Flav: That's why they're screaming and the bloke's got his arm and it just rolls and the arm comes out.

00:47:48.44
Ricky: Oh my God.

00:47:49.82
Flav: Yeah, no, it's pretty…

00:47:50.30
Ricky: Yeah. that That's, that is a bit, that's close.

00:47:52.70
Flav: So we didn't answer the question at the beginning of the pod, right?

00:47:52.74
Ricky: That's close.

00:47:55.33
Flav: It's what would you'd rather come up against. ah You're in the water, deep water.

00:48:00.12
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:01.34
Flav: It's 100% a great way.

00:48:03.26
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:03.29
Flav: you don't Saltwater crocodile, you don't want them anywhere near you

00:48:06.40
Ricky: No. And the thing is with a saltwater crocodile, like when it grabs hold of you and it's bite pressure and it will get hold of you and it will obviously bite down.

00:48:17.54
Ricky: Like you will be, it it may not kill you straight away, but you'll be crushed to death. Like like your all your organs, all your bones, everything, you'll still be alive bobbing up and down in the water.

00:48:29.51
Ricky: And the thing is, if it it doesn't take you straight away to drown and die, then you'll be up and you won't be able to swim anywhere and you'll be left in the sea with crocodile.

00:48:29.71
Flav: Oh,

00:48:43.16
Ricky: They are just…

00:48:43.71
Flav: my God.

00:48:47.22
Ricky: ah

00:48:47.61
Flav: So, as you were talking… i asked i asked I asked, what is more aggressive, a great white or a saltwater crocodile? A saltwater crocodile is significantly more aggressive than a great white shark.

00:49:01.49
Flav: Crocodiles have natural territorial instincts and are active opportunistic hunters. They view few humans as viable prey. By contrast, great whites are generally indifferent to humans. Most attacks can result from curiosity of mistaken identity, whereas cro crocodiles actively stalk, kill, and consume humans. Wow.

00:49:18.97
Flav: A thousand people are killed by saltwater crocodiles every year. As a power of great white is about five or ten.

00:49:27.72
Ricky: Mate, they are… I love them so much. My…

00:49:31.57
Flav: A saltwater crocodile possesses an astonishingly high bite force of about 3,700 psi, pounds of pounds per square inch, compared to great white's, which is 650. Yeah. Yeah.

00:49:44.22
Ricky: Jesus Christ!

00:49:45.46
Flav: yeah

00:49:49.04
Flav: Fucking hell.

00:49:49.17
Ricky: I did… Yeah, fuck me. Jesus Christ.

00:49:52.22
Flav: and And this is why I love the internet and and I love human beings.

00:49:54.20
Ricky: Yeah.

00:49:55.42
Flav: I know this battle is highly unlikely, but which one wins if they were in the water together?

00:50:03.37
Flav: Someone went, prefer a shark in deeper waters.

00:50:05.34
Ricky: Yeah.

00:50:06.09
Flav: Croc wins in shallow waters.

00:50:07.90
Ricky: Yeah, fucking hell. Before we move on, the i just want to speak about the the two, are the Australian box jellyfish, Portuguese man-of-war, right?

00:50:15.89
Flav: Yeah. Hmm.

00:50:17.92
Ricky: Portuguese man-of-war. I didn't know this. Well, technically, a cut colonial organism rather than a true jellyfish.

00:50:23.54
Flav: yeah

00:50:25.25
Ricky: Didn't know that.

00:50:25.30
Flav: isn't Yeah. it's not it's It's made up of tiny thousands hundreds of thousands of tiny organisms. It's not its own thing. It's immortal, isn't it?

00:50:34.07
Ricky: Fuck off, really?

00:50:35.19
Flav: It isn't a jellyfish. It's hundreds and hundreds of thousands and millions of individual organisms that work together.

00:50:44.76
Ricky: That is insane.

00:50:44.98
Flav: You've got flight on your it

00:50:46.97
Ricky: know.

00:50:47.42
Flav: Yeah.

00:50:48.68
Ricky: It's the same one as well. I've got them all. just one for It's just like, right, he's fucking, he's podcasting.

00:50:53.70
Flav: I'm to land on his head, the prick.

00:50:54.12
Ricky: Yeah, I'm going to like, yay.

00:50:54.83
Flav: we

00:50:56.45
Ricky: Hey, look at him. Looks like a right mug.

00:50:58.68
Flav: i I was terrified of the Portuguese man of war or what they call blue balls in, I think in in Australia.

00:51:05.43
Ricky: Yeah.

00:51:05.62
Flav: I was terrified of them when I was a kid. I thought if if you get stung by one of them, it's going to get you. You're going to be dead. Apparently other than superficial sting, which hurt, they don't have any threat towards human beings all really.

00:51:16.95
Ricky: What?

00:51:17.85
Flav: They hurt. The sting hurts, but it's not like you can't kill you unless you have some sort of allergic reaction to a specific venom.

00:51:18.90
Ricky: Yeah.

00:51:23.29
Ricky: Here it says, it is infamous for its long tentacles that deliver blinding electric shock, often described as being whipped by fire.

00:51:27.58
Flav: Yeah.

00:51:33.91
Flav: Right. So I watched i watched this program, um which is is really it's wicked.

00:51:34.49
Ricky: That is…

00:51:38.74
Flav: They do clips on Facebook. The only way i absorb it is through Facebook. It's real, whatever they're called. And there of lifeguards on the on the beach in Australia. And they the the whole it's a reality TV show.

00:51:50.39
Flav: And most of it's set on their little viewing desk where they're looking out towards the the water. And basically, loads of people come up complaining that they've been stung by the Portuguese, the blue bottles, they call them. And they're like, they're saying it's really painful. And they're like, it's not that bad.

00:52:04.02
Flav: Wait 25 minutes. You'll feel better. You'll be fine. it Really and unapologetic to, or and unsympathetic to the people that come and see him.

00:52:07.03
Ricky: what

00:52:13.11
Flav: Anyway, he has to go out to check a boy and check the nets up and stuff like that. And he goes, he goes out on this, um, paddle massive long surfboard and he's just pushing himself along with his hands and he gets stung and then he gets stung again and he's just got these tentacles wrapped all around him.

00:52:25.30
Ricky: Yeah.

00:52:33.30
Flav: You can't get them off him, but he can't ask for help. They're on radio and he's kind of getting stung by the blue bottles and they're just like, well, you've got deal with it now because every time this little seven-year-old girl comes and complains, you're completely unsympathetic and sympathetic and hes his arms and his neck look like they've got whip marks all over him as well for me.

00:52:51.69
Ricky: Oh, my God. like The thing is, as well, ah i mean, I've never been stung by a jellyfish. And for like touching wood here, when I went to Spain last year, there was this massive kind of, I don't know what happened, but there was um there was loads of jellyfish on the sea.

00:53:07.66
Ricky: And in every Facebook group, they said, for some reason, this summer, there has been cunt load, right?

00:53:07.86
Flav: yeah

00:53:14.74
Ricky: not ah You know, they didn't say that, but… I still have like that fear, like you just said, like Portuguese man or woman box jellyfish, like it's going to, it will kill me. Same with cobras, same with like all of these things growing up.

00:53:29.50
Ricky: You get touched by that, it's game over.

00:53:31.35
Flav: Yeah.

00:53:31.38
Ricky: I didn't know that it was.

00:53:33.59
Flav: we we So when we went to Spain a lot when we were kids, we were all scared of jellyfish because obviously they sting.

00:53:38.62
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:53:40.12
Flav: and we' be But we we'd always be out there snorkeling. It's just what we… We'd we do that. We'd go to the beach, go out snorkeling. And inevitably someone would get stung at some stage. But we was all terrified of them. Anyway, used to go to this place called Granadella.

00:53:54.26
Flav: And in the middle of… Granadella was like a… it it looked like… someone had taken a bite out the side of a mountain and it just made a beach.

00:54:04.09
Ricky: Right.

00:54:04.12
Flav: Do you know what mean? It's like it's just looked like a bite mark and had a beach and a road that drove down to it.

00:54:04.69
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:09.98
Flav: And we'd go there. And in the middle of this, where the sea had come in, there was a big rock where you could kind of make about hundred feet out, maybe less, maybe 50 feet out. And you could stand on the rock and rest.

00:54:21.34
Flav: Anyway, we're standing on this rock and we're about waist deep of water and we're looking and there is the biggest jellyfish any of us have ever seen.

00:54:24.95
Ricky: Yeah.

00:54:28.96
Flav: Not your typical ones. Not the ones that sort of sit around like and and sit on the thing they're just sort of like slowly moving around.

00:54:37.23
Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

00:54:37.53
Flav: This was massive, Ricky. it was like It was like the size of a fucking dustbin.

00:54:43.42
Ricky: Oh, my God.

00:54:44.38
Flav: It was massive.

00:54:46.26
Ricky: what What did you what did you do did you get lighted Did you have to wait for it to pass?

00:54:48.48
Flav: I panicked. Yeah, yeah, were just all shitting ourselves on this fucking, on this rock.

00:54:52.12
Ricky: ah

00:54:54.36
Flav: it was And my dad wasn't helping. was going, it's coming this way, it's coming this way. And I'm like, no, no,

00:54:58.49
Ricky: ah

00:55:00.09
Flav: On the same holiday, on the same holiday, we did one of the banana things. Do you remember banana boats on a speedboat?

00:55:05.50
Ricky: yeah yeah yeah

00:55:08.47
Flav: Got flung off. That's what he did. You sat on the bar and the speed man boat tries to engineer it and flick you so that you fly off.

00:55:15.83
Ricky: Yeah, savoda, savoda.

00:55:17.41
Flav: I think, yeah, I don't even want to be allowed to do it now. But back then there was no rules. So you'd all go in the water and my dad was like, i just seen I've just seen a fin.

00:55:32.07
Flav: was like, he's like on the wind. I've seen a fin, Gary, I've seen a fin. I had to… I swam to the speedboat and got out in the water and just sat there.

00:55:39.61
Ricky: but

00:55:43.35
Ricky: Or to the actual speedboat.

00:55:44.34
Flav: Yeah, said, mate, get me in the speedboat. I'm not going back on that fucking thing.

00:55:49.59
Ricky: Oh, fucking hell. That is amazing. ah Right. um Oh, actually, I've got question here before we end. If someone offered you 10 million, would you spend 24 hours in a shark cage?

00:56:05.67
Ricky: Dive to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. I mean, not dive as in, you know, Titan.

00:56:11.32
Flav: Yeah, no.

00:56:12.70
Ricky: Swim Vorkers or free dive with whales?

00:56:14.30
Flav: Yeah.

00:56:18.62
Ricky: Which one would you go with?

00:56:20.44
Flav: All of the… Three dives of wilds and swim with orcas. For £10 million.

00:56:24.28
Ricky: Would you really?

00:56:25.10
Flav: pounds You're not dying.

00:56:25.59
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:27.08
Flav: You're fine. You're not even getting attacked.

00:56:29.21
Ricky: Mate, a little bit freaky.

00:56:29.35
Flav: It's just a little bit freaky that you're in the water with them.

00:56:33.66
Flav: Yeah, no, not not that. But yeah the 24 hours in a shark cage where it goes dark… Are they consistently chumming the water?

00:56:44.06
Ricky: Yeah, let's say they are.

00:56:45.56
Flav: Because otherwise they'll just get bored and eventually you wouldn't be able to sleep.

00:56:47.93
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:51.13
Flav: you the the I think there'd be an element of psychosis that would set in. You're in a cage, you're bobbing up and down, you can't hear anything properly, right?

00:57:02.78
Ricky: Yeah.

00:57:04.44
Flav: you They are chumming the water and then it starts to get dark and you cannot see a thing.

00:57:11.20
Ricky: Oh my God, being dark in the sea.

00:57:11.99
Flav: You know you know the sharks are in the water, you know it's being chummed and you can't see the cage in front of you and it's pitch black.

00:57:23.88
Ricky: Oh, God, yeah.

00:57:24.02
Flav: The only way you know if the cage is there is if you touch the sides or you float to the bottom of the cage and you feel it. but Then you think, what if the cage snaps and you're just in the water?

00:57:34.71
Ricky: Yeah. See, that's what what that's one of my my other fears is, like going cage diving great whites, get in the cage, you're fine. What happens if the cable snaps?

00:57:45.31
Ricky: Then you're in the cage and it just sinks to the bottom of the ocean.

00:57:48.06
Flav: no They have floats on the side of the cage. If you look at them next time, you'll see um there's like these cylinders at the top which are that keep you afloat.

00:57:55.22
Ricky: Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

00:57:57.74
Flav: But I was thinking in there, i thinking this could be the start of a film, Rick, because so someone pays you, some maniac pays you a million pounds to sit in the get in the cage and you've got to spend 24 hours there.

00:58:04.60
Ricky: Yeah.

00:58:10.01
Flav: right So you're in the cage and… it goes pitch black, you make it through the morning and you think, oh Christ, I'm nearly done. And then you check when it's light enough so you can see and there's no boat there, it's gone and you're just in the cage in the middle of the ocean

00:58:22.81
Ricky: ah

00:58:26.36
Ricky: ah fuck Oh, fucking hell. Yeah, God.

00:58:30.23
Flav: the ocean. I'm infatuated with this Facebook group called i Should Be Dead. And almost all of them are the people that have been left to see.

00:58:40.22
Ricky: and what And what, these are real cases or they just make up scenarios?

00:58:42.52
Flav: Yeah, yeah. No, these are real-life stories of people that have evaded death. Crazy enough.

00:58:49.62
Ricky: Yeah, the sea scares me.

00:58:51.06
Flav: Yeah, it is scary.

00:58:52.09
Ricky: I mean, after all the kind of shit we've just spoken about, ah let alone that we don't know enough about it and we've not explored any of it.

00:59:00.66
Flav: Yeah.

00:59:01.46
Ricky: yeah I think I… Maybe I thought, if speaking about this to you, that there's been a few things which just put my mind at ease, but I still maintain that I am just going to go into the sea on holiday to waist height and that'll be it.

00:59:19.86
Ricky: That's fine by me.

00:59:21.42
Flav: Yeah.

00:59:21.85
Ricky: Yeah, okay.

00:59:23.32
Flav: mean, people still get done at waist height. Don't know. You know that.

00:59:26.90
Ricky: Yeah, I know. But I want to kind of see a little bit. Can you imagine that? Saying to my kids, I'm only going in up to my knees. not coming

00:59:34.28
Flav: I really hope… I really hope… At least just you get bitten by a shark. I would love that.

00:59:38.81
Ricky: Little jellyfish sting?

00:59:39.11
Flav: Not…

00:59:41.40
Flav: Yeah, that would be good.

00:59:41.98
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, good one.

00:59:42.90
Flav: Yeah, yeah.

00:59:43.30
Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

00:59:43.38
Flav: Something like that.

00:59:44.06
Ricky: Little sting.

00:59:44.41
Flav: If I'm there. We… Honestly, we should plan a holiday together, Ricky. We could do all these things. We could go up to… um We go on a boat. We go sea fishing.

00:59:54.15
Ricky: We'd be freaking each other out. Oh, yeah, sea fishing for sure.

00:59:58.39
Flav: All that stuff. Oh, my God. I'm just looking at a video of a shark going underneath it.

01:00:04.62
Ricky: Oh, i there's another there's another actually Instagram that I just, I don't know if you've seen it.

01:00:10.17
Flav: Tiger shark! Tiger shark ran me!

01:00:11.99
Ricky: a may yeah Every time and someone says the word tiger shark, I just want to say that line.

01:00:15.86
Flav: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:18.26
Ricky: I saw this, ah kit i think, you know, orca, whatever it is, um by the ah ice caps. And there's a sit there's a seal just there.

01:00:25.14
Flav: Yeah.

01:00:27.60
Ricky: And this orca, it's just head comes up really slowly, how it's filmed really slow. It pops its head up and you can just, Yeah, yeah yeah the eyes.

01:00:34.23
Flav: Like that, isn't it it? It comes up and it you see its eye like it's looking at where sit

01:00:38.86
Ricky: It's fucking amazing, man.

01:00:40.66
Flav: the… Well, like they they they know the seal's on top of it and they create a bow wave.

01:00:41.28
Ricky: so scary. Yeah.

01:00:45.66
Flav: So they all swim along together and create this wave that knocks the seal off of the off the of the ice cap.

01:00:47.54
Ricky: yeah

01:00:53.09
Ricky: I mean, they are just fucking… Do you know what?

01:00:55.32
Flav: So good.

01:00:55.63
Ricky: After speaking with you, they they've gone up in salmon hats straight away.

01:00:55.89
Flav: Did

01:00:59.09
Flav: you Google

01:00:59.63
Ricky: Right.

01:01:00.79
Flav: So good.

01:01:01.34
Ricky: Up to the top. There you go

01:01:02.33
Flav: you google it

01:01:03.42
Ricky: Yeah, did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:04.66
Flav: so good

01:01:06.81
Ricky: Right. um We have, do you know what? We've got a dilemma this week. So we're going to be answering that. That is called the house share. We've also got something only you know, and that's called the friend request. That is a voice note. The topic for next week that someone sent in is football hooliganism. from the skirmishes in the 60s to the firms in the 70s and 80s, leading to Hazel Stadium disaster. We'll chat about modern-day hooliganism, the commercialization of it, whether it still exists today, and or has modern tech, police, and Stadia put an end to it all.

01:01:43.38
Ricky: So that's going to the topic for next week. If you've got any stories, if you've been involved in any skirmishes, or if you're actually active,

01:01:45.11
Flav: Yeah.

01:01:50.23
Ricky: you know active in a firm send it in to ladsanonpod at gmail.com and we will read it out and again if you've got any more topic suggestions we are free and open to chat about whatever you want to chat about it's your podcast so send it all in to that email address now we are going to go into dilemma

01:02:45.78
Ricky: The House Share hello lad longtime listener of the pod love it and it gets me through a lot of tough days here is my dilemma i'd love to hear your thoughts i'm twenty five years old and have been with my girlfriend for about ten months now she's beautiful loving kind and funny i met her parents twice which is a big deal in her culture as she's from as she has an east asian background The point is we're tight and have big plans and ideas for our future together. Sadly, she moved abroad last week to study a master's and due to work, I can't join her for probably another 10 months.

01:03:26.42
Ricky: In the meantime, she of course needs to rent a gaff and is currently searching, viewing flats, etc. Throughout this process, I've been adamant that she only goes to an all-female flat or at least share with a married couple perhaps.

01:03:44.31
Ricky: What I don't want is for her to be in a flat with other blokes in their 20s or 30s, as while I trust her fully, i know blokes and the thought of them eyeing up my girlfriend in the kitchen watching films with her in the living room or trying to create a vibe would make me feel sick.

01:04:02.89
Flav: you

01:04:03.64
Ricky: She says she much prefers female only, but would be open to living with guys if push came to shove. My dilemma is, how hard do I go on this idea of zero tolerance for her living with blokes? Is it worth a big argument over?

01:04:20.38
Ricky: Am I being unreasonable or is this pretty rational? As I say, it's not a worry about her doing anything, more just the idea of male housemates potentially fancying her and being weird, which makes me uncomfortable.

01:04:35.10
Ricky: And I think she's being naive. Also, any tips on long distance relationships would be appreciated.

01:04:46.78
Flav: I think he's fine to to want that.

01:04:49.69
Ricky: To yeah.

01:04:49.94
Flav: I'm not…

01:04:50.46
Ricky: Yeah.

01:04:51.98
Flav: I would much, much rather, yeah, my daughter or my… If my daughter was… that that I know the way men's brains work.

01:05:02.55
Ricky: m

01:05:03.93
Flav: And while she might not be doing anything, if they would… If she's an attractive girl, they probably would be eyeing her up and maybe…

01:05:12.09
Ricky: yeah

01:05:14.46
Flav: I think i think he's you he's fine to request that. And it's not about it's not an insult on her. it's It's just the way a lot it's not a lot of men, but some men's brain works. Especially if like drinks involved, stuff like that.

01:05:26.65
Ricky: Yeah.

01:05:28.02
Flav: I don't know. don't think that's a popular thing to say in the modern world. But that's I understand where he's coming from completely.

01:05:35.48
Ricky: Yeah, for sure. I mean, when I, when i when I moved down to London, I was living in house share on my own with, you know, it it was mixed. And then my missus joined from ah Milton Keynes and she was in her own kind of flat share.

01:05:50.78
Ricky: She was with other guys and girls, ah but i yeah.

01:05:53.98
Flav: What? Where?

01:05:55.99
Ricky: She… Moswell Hill.

01:05:58.34
Flav: What?

01:05:59.00
Ricky: Yeah, and Crouch End.

01:06:01.06
Flav: For how long?

01:06:02.38
Ricky: For ages. Maybe not ages, but for maybe at least a year.

01:06:07.16
Flav: What was this so that you, were you saving up to get a flat or something?

01:06:11.67
Ricky: Well, this is but because, yeah, we were trying to find the flat together. ah So, and in the meantime, I was in that house share on my, with with those other people.

01:06:21.14
Flav: Yeah.

01:06:21.66
Ricky: So she moved down to Muswell Hill and lived with two girls. So there was three of them.

01:06:27.19
Flav: Yeah.

01:06:27.58
Ricky: Then they got kicked out of there and then they moved to another house in Crouch End at the top of Crouch Hill.

01:06:32.25
Flav: Does she still speak to them?

01:06:33.85
Ricky: Yeah, um ah not, not regularly, but she's still like friends of them.

01:06:36.70
Flav: On Facebook.

01:06:37.49
Ricky: I've got them on Facebook and stuff.

01:06:39.51
Flav: Yeah, yeah. Anyway, usually say.

01:06:40.41
Ricky: And they're all, they're all actors as well.

01:06:40.97
Flav: Yeah.

01:06:43.54
Ricky: But um I was there with them. Do you know what i mean? So i was i was I was comfortable enough that she's living with other men, ah but we were spending time together.

01:06:46.52
Flav: yeah

01:06:53.13
Ricky: We were in the same place. Now, if she was away in another country, Other guys knocking about different time zones, different, you know, this, that and the other.

01:07:06.14
Flav: yeah

01:07:06.46
Ricky: I would be apprehensive and not for the fact that, you know, I don't trust my partner. But again, i do know what men are like.

01:07:19.38
Flav: I think as well is, look, we do know what men are like, what Rick is saying, but you cannot, regardless of what she's doing, you can't obsess about this. um You need to just trust. like I trust my wife implicitly. and implicitly

01:07:34.78
Ricky: Yeah.

01:07:35.99
Flav: um so I don't at any moment think she's cheating on me or doing anything untoward.

01:07:41.40
Ricky: m

01:07:41.98
Flav: It just just doesn't cross my mind because if that even if she did, there's nothing I can do about it.

01:07:43.42
Ricky: Yeah.

01:07:46.78
Flav: It's something that she would intend do as long as I've shown her as much love as I can.

01:07:47.18
Ricky: No.

01:07:51.02
Flav: Blush your early doors. It's quite exciting still. At 10 months, you don't really want to be together all the time and having to be across the world is tough, but yeah, I don't die on the hill, mate. That's what I would say, but I understand where you're coming from.

01:08:03.45
Ricky: Yeah, completely agree. Yeah, I wouldn't really push and really you know create a ah huge argument about it, but I would make sure that you um that you're clear that your preference would be for females or married couple, whatever.

01:08:14.90
Flav: oh also you don't want your

01:08:21.85
Flav: you don't want to come across here as jealous or of clingy where you're not doing that you just have a concern and you're airing that concern if you keep pushing it it's going to come across as like right all right get it i get it like

01:08:34.04
Ricky: Yeah.

01:08:34.58
Flav: So you' got be careful about that. It's quite a delicate thing, but you could say, it's a lot i I know what men are like. i' I'm so far away. i miss you deeply. if you If there's a way where you can just live with girls, that'd be amazing because obviously and I just ah don't worry about men perving over you when when you don't want them to.

01:08:50.17
Ricky: Yeah.

01:08:52.76
Flav: And I'm so far away that I can't do anything about it. So that'd be the thing, but.

01:08:57.66
Ricky: Yeah, I felt that then. I felt like you were talking to me about that. And I was like, right, I'll live with girls then, Flav. That's it.

01:09:02.81
Flav: Yeah, you…

01:09:03.10
Ricky: Fine, fine.

01:09:03.49
Flav: what yeah cause you

01:09:04.15
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, you won me over. Well done. Right, okay. So I hope we've ah helped you on that one and answered your dilemma. Now we are going to go into a voice note. And this is called the friend request.

01:09:19.21
Ricky: For something na you know I need to do the…

01:12:02.19
Flav: I fucked your mum.

01:12:17.72
Ricky: Shagga!

01:12:20.52
Ricky: shaga

01:12:21.32
Flav: Top sugar.

01:12:21.97
Ricky: ah

01:12:24.30
Flav: That's wicked.

01:12:25.40
Ricky: God, can you imagine that? there I bet there's so many people listening to this that have done something similar, ah like shagged someone's mum or sister.

01:12:35.51
Flav: Yeah.

01:12:35.58
Ricky: and And it's been like this kind of like, you know, friends with benefits or whatever. And they're keeping that from us. So you should share it with us.

01:12:43.36
Flav: they should.

01:12:43.77
Ricky: You know where to email, you know, ladsanonpod at gmail.com. Right. That's the end of the show for this week. The topic for next week is football hooliganism. If you've got any stories, anything you want to share, you know the email address. ah Patrons, going out Friday. i just Actually, I just want to say a quick shout out to the patrons because…

01:13:05.53
Ricky: They got me, Flav. ah And I don't think… and I never thought I'd be in this position where what what I'm about to share, I am going to share. So my daughter and I, we sit in the garden, sit on the benches. She's got a little swing that she sits on with all these cushions and that.

01:13:22.21
Ricky: Planes fly over across us and we're like…

01:13:23.98
Flav: Yeah.

01:13:25.78
Ricky: oh, I wonder where thats where that is and where where that's going. don't know if we're on a flight path, but we we see a fair amount of planes.

01:13:33.69
Flav: Yeah.

01:13:33.82
Ricky: I mentioned it to the you know to the lads in Discord, and they introduced me to a game. um what i can't even remember what the game's called. Maybe Skycard or something like that?

01:13:45.13
Ricky: and um

01:13:45.37
Flav: All right.

01:13:47.16
Ricky: Yeah, Skycards. And it's matched with that flight radar where you point your phone up and you can see what plane it is. now My daughter and I, every evening, are sitting in the garden, catching like Pokemon planes flying over us.

01:14:04.01
Flav: what's it Is the aim to get as many different models as you can? Well,

01:14:07.16
Ricky: Yeah. Many different models. Some are more unique. Some get more points and stuff like that. um I'm sitting here, right?

01:14:15.48
Flav: but aren't they just loads of the same plane? like or Oh, really?

01:14:17.69
Ricky: No, there isn't. There isn't.

01:14:19.31
Flav: I thought they were all flying the same planes.

01:14:19.41
Ricky: thing is, is, well…

01:14:21.31
Flav: Yeah.

01:14:21.40
Ricky: No. and when I'm here, right, during the day, and if I go out and just stand in the garden for a bit, what do I get? Heathrow to Belfast.

01:14:30.93
Flav: Yeah.

01:14:31.59
Ricky: Heathrow to fucking Luton to Glasgow, whatever.

01:14:33.40
Flav: would be what a bit be it would be the Boeing yeah

01:14:37.56
Ricky: Something like that. I don't i don't know. Ryanair EasyJet. When she's out there, she got Ontario the other day. san Diego as well. And I was like… Fucking, I'm losing this game.

01:14:50.46
Ricky: But anyway, let' just want to say, um we sit out there in the evening and while we're, you know, plane spotting. God, my God, I'm a plane nut.

01:14:57.70
Flav: well can I can i um much you and I might have a go yeah

01:14:58.98
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah. Mate, it's so fucking good. And you can see all the details about the plane, where it's come from, where it's going, all the the model numbers, how high it is, all of that stuff.

01:15:10.97
Ricky: ah So thank you very much um to the the patrons in Discord. I'm Now, plane nonce.

01:15:16.57
Flav: I might check that out.

01:15:17.70
Ricky: So thanks for that.

01:15:17.94
Flav: Nice.

01:15:19.38
Ricky: Cheers. but um But also, when we sit outside, because we're waiting for planes, we're just sharing time together, chatting about school, chatting about, you know, music.

01:15:20.02
Flav: Yeah.

01:15:29.37
Ricky: Although Olivia Rodrigo and fucking Harry Styles isn't really my thing, but, you know, entertain.

01:15:33.37
Flav: Harry Styles, I can fuck with.

01:15:34.45
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

01:15:35.99
Flav: ah can I can. Especially since you sent me that quote you did when they're inducting Tom Hawk about Radiohead and was like, you are a legend.

01:15:45.11
Ricky: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is quality. That is quality.

01:15:47.19
Flav: But his albums are they fine. but Since he left, what's it called? One Direction. he You can tell that he's into music and it sounds like Bowie.

01:15:51.74
Ricky: One Direction, yeah.

01:15:55.10
Flav: A lot like Bowie. A lot of it.

01:15:56.09
Ricky: Yeah.

01:15:56.42
Flav: so

01:15:57.28
Ricky: I quite like Olivia Rodrigo, actually. i think she's all right.

01:15:59.70
Flav: ah We're being honest now, are we?

01:16:00.76
Ricky: Yeah, yeah. Ha, ha, ha. ah And that's the end for this week's podcast. I hope you've enjoyed it. Patrons, we'll see you now Friday. Join up patreon.com slash ladsanonpod. Everyone else, the normies, we will see you on Monday.

01:16:16.64
Flav: Cheers.