#163 | 1984 | Are We Living It

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Flav: Um, So I've got a message. on one of the comments of the podcast.

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Ricky: Mmm.

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Flav: Flav, don't be a shiel for AI. Like… It's not you kind of thing.

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Ricky: oh

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Flav: And I'm like, well what? Would you like… What do you think? Where do you think the running order comes from?

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: That's my way.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Yeah. but ah Where do you stand on it?

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Ricky: Well… Um, I do see a lot of people saying… AI's bad is heating up the world. It's part of, yeah, yeah, AI slop.

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Flav: AI slop.

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Ricky: all of that stuff. But… It's used in everything. Like when you use like…

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Flav: Yeah, it has been used for eight.

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Ricky: teams and word like ah all these different things are being used in software that you don't you that you're not even realizing

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Flav: Like when you're writing an email and it helps you write it. Do you remember Wordly? It's been around. Wordly has been around for… Absolutely aged. I think it's called Wordly. where wherever you're writing on the browser

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Ricky: Mmm.

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Flav: It. Correct your grammar.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah Yeah.

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Flav: Yes. That's AI.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: When you're going through TikTok being served videos that you like, AI.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: It's SatNav AI.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Everything.

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Ricky: I mean, do these people just think there's a guy sitting there? going you'll like this video Let's give him that. he likes eating but He likes food eating videos.

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Flav: I think.

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Ricky: Let's serve him that.

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Flav: It's a complicated conversation.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Because… Tons of AI are great.

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Ricky: Mmm.

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Flav: Chat GPT is a great a great, great tool, and it's getting smarter and smarter and smarter.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: you can now it's integrated into my entire working day. Right.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: it has access to my Gmail.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: It writes replies to emails. for me. to check. so I don't have to write the right email.

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Ricky: Gee!

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Flav: It reminds you that there are unwritten… I've set it up to send me… Every… Tottenham-related news story that breaks.

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Ricky: Jesus Christ.

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Flav: And every day I just sit there doing it. Follow me. Bye. it's It's in. entrenched it's too late it's already here it's been here for a long long time

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: The problem I've got with it, and I think I mentioned this in the last podcast. is

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Ricky: Mm.

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Flav: the creative aspect. is when it create when it's used as a creative tool.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: To create an entire… project. When it comes to art, I don't like it.

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Ricky: No. like Yeah, like the posters and stuff.

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Flav: But… saving me four hours a day from writing branding orders. I fucking love it.

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Ricky: Yeah I use it all the time. All the time. But it's more like people complain. about it. But they'll be fine using it if they are applying for a job. or something like that Check, you know.

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Ricky: drag and drop the job description what skills do i need to list for this and all that a lot but then still poo-poo it just you know

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: I get it. I do get it.

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Flav: But you can't even… If you draft anything… like trying to be a bit creative. You get accused of it just being like AI. so like Why do it?

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: Like if I was to write I had the idea for our patron to to write more. to start writing.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: But I'm late. People are just going to think I've chachibitied this and posted it in there.

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Ricky: Oh, what's for you to do the writing?

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Flav: That's what I get.

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Ricky: in

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Flav: Yeah, ah that's my background. a A long time ago I used to write a lot.

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Ricky: Yeah!

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Flav: Now it's fucking… I don't know even just saying it out loud makes my head hurt Thinking about writing articles again. But…

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Ricky: Look.

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Flav: um But yeah, I was thinking that, but then… I can get. If I wanted to, and I haven't done this and and and won't do this, and which is why there's no articles appeared on the Fighting Cop Patreon. I could probably get ChatGB to sound like me.

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Ricky: Mmm.

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Flav: and write an article in my voice. I've been speaking to it for about two years now It probably knows me inside out.

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: I don't know

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Ricky: Yeah, I mean… um i The email thing, like linking up to your email, I'm scared about that in case it starts flinging out shit. all the time

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Flav: I know. ah Yeah, it's true. I did it and I did hesitate.

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Ricky: Like it emails me and it says…

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Flav: It's like how much…

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Ricky: says rick like i know We're friends, but… ah I don't know, it just might say something mean and then it's just like, oh, Flav, I thought you…

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Ricky: um I'm helping you out.

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Flav: You mean you mean answering emails for you

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Ricky: ya ya Yeah,

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Flav: ah I don't think it does. Well, it might be doing that. I don haven't seen it do it.

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Ricky: to to the tax guard, to your accountant. and saying, oh, I thought you might want me to fudge these numbers because…

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: you know just to help you out i'm just helping you out mate don't don't have a go at me

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Flav: no That is how my mouth.

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Ricky: Woah woah woah!

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Flav: Am I un… I might unlink it, actually. I did hesitate. There was a moment of hesitation when I… I agree to link it.

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Ricky: Yeah, there are times where I'm using chat GPT and it's like, oh, hiya mate, do you want me to… um Link your Lloyds Bank account because then we can… and i'm ah don't Don't try that on me. I know what you're doing.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: I know what you're doing.

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Flav: well What do you want with money anyway?

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Ricky: Yeah. yeah

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Flav: Just fucking starts to do more sums in there.

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Ricky: I'll tell you what ChatGPT can't do.

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Flav: Blow your job.

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Ricky: It can't. Yeah, can't do that but… You can't take my bins out for me. and 00:05:17.100 Flav Just so you know, we can always become bin men.

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Ricky: Well… I missed.

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Flav: Ugh.

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Ricky: The Friday bin slot.

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Flav: again.

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Ricky: And well, the thing is, right.

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Flav: Is that your job?

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Ricky: that Yeah, it is. It is my job. Well, we'll get into that, right? But the Friday morning…

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Flav: right

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Ricky: Nine o 'clock. They collect the green bins. Always, always the same. Which garden stuff? We've got no garden waste.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: That's fine. And then about 10s, 11s, then the recycle and the and the black, the general waste.

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Flav: Everything comes on a Friday.

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Ricky: yeah yeah everything comes on a friday every friday

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Flav: All right, because ours was on separate. Every Friday the Bitter Man comes.

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Ricky: Every Friday.

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Flav: Do you know how often it comes here? once every two weeks.

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Ricky: how What?

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Flav: And they're talking about making it once every three weeks.

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Ricky: what

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Ricky: your Your town stinks. It literally stinks. There's maggots everywhere and it stinks.

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Flav: But. they had a They had a crammer. We had the crammer, which is essentially like a pond, a big pond.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: And it ran out of… um

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Ricky: What?

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Flav: So I just got a message. Yeah, ran out of water because of the heat, the drought. I just got a message. Mahmoud has verbally agreed to join Tottenham.

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Ricky: oh

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Flav: Anyway, I was s like… Um, ah It ran out of water. I was like, would you fucking… Just fill it up.

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Ricky: Fit it up, yeah.

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Flav: Let's put it out. And the council's like, no, we can't do that, we can't do that, we can't do that, right?

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Ricky: It's a hosepipe man.

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Flav: Rose by the Bay. We've got to fucking fill it up.

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Ricky: Yeah!

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Flav: Who cares? in the hos way i Just fill the crammer up. We want to see it. It's so fucking empty. It's horrible when you walk by.

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Ricky: water Water everywhere. Fill the fucking crammer up now.

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Flav: What the fuck is going on right now? and They wouldn't do it. But you guess what they were doing, Rick? Spending £80 ,000 implement a booking slot for the tip.

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Flav: You can't just turn up and with a tip now. You have to book a slot. 80 grand it's costing them we can't fill a camera up with a bit of water

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Ricky: you know that They've done that to us as well with the tip.

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Flav: Fucking cunts, man.

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Ricky: that was That was COVID. And now it's, it's, in it's.

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Flav: is the standard.

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Ricky: Yeah, standard.

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Flav: So, sorry, you missed the bin slot.

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Ricky: Yeah, sure. Too much bin chat. Yeah, I missed the bin slot. It was nine o 'clock and I heard that i heard the bit i heard the the bin Yeah, I was just lying there.

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Flav: Was you in bed?

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Ricky: Just lying there. and And I was like, it's all right. Because it's it's the green bins, isn't it? So it doesn't matter. And then I peered out the window and I could see they were collecting. collecting the the general waste and i thought My missus is going to fucking kill me.

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Ricky: Because she's always saying. make sure the black ones are out make sure the black bins out because

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: maggots and all that, like you know, terrified of maggots and all that. And… i got got my sliders on chucked everything everything on went ran out there i was too late i missed it And she's going to come back from work. And our bins, we got a private car park out the back. She'll park up.

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Ricky: she'll go to the bin and she'll just flip the lid up just have a little little look

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Flav: Oh, to see if you remembered.

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Ricky: To see if I did it. and

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Flav: do you Do you think this's this you you're inflicted on this behavior? because you do the same thing to her.

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Ricky: No. No.

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Flav: Make sure you measure that sofa right? Make sure you measure that sofa right?

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Ricky: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah

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Flav: but And then when it came, what what was it?

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Ricky: It was too big.

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Flav: Wasn't… It's too big.

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Ricky: It's too big, too big.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah, she didn't measure it correctly.

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Flav: was you understanding or did you go we're fucked on her we're absolutely fucked

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah. it it was It was close to not nearly breaking up, but it was I was frothing at the mouth. I literally had to get a fucking napkin and sort myself out.

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Ricky: That was a bad one. But anyway, so… I can't take my bins out.

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Flav: the

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Ricky: That's on me. And you know, you were saying about. the jobs. So… Like. We can do any job in this yeah household. But bins?

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Ricky: is my job.

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Flav: and

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Ricky: It is solely my job.

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Flav: Why?

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Ricky: I don't know, gardening? Solely my job. Everything else is kind of shared. Admittedly not equal parts. dishwasher loading that up unloading all that like that's equal i'm here all day doing that cooking do it doing dinners and all that lot.

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Ricky: Equally done.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: I'm here doing all that lot. The washing. ah I'm…

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Flav: It's not you.

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Ricky: No, not that not no, I didn't say that.

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Flav: It's not a man's job. what would that What do you mean? Why then?

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Ricky: ah just because the the confusion of the the who fucking irons anymore it's 2026

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Flav: Oh, and then… I know.

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Flav: Oli! Spends more time ironing I think than any other activity at home. She loves it up there. Shit. She does. Shazzy loves it.

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Flav: the

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Ricky: I…

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Flav: It is weird that there's some sort of female task and male task and they still exist.

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Ricky: Mmm.

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Flav: so i we i I do. wash Washing. I never iron, unless it's my clothes. I want Ireland but that's it

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: where shields are loads of iron in. Cookins. Split. She does lots of late shifts, so.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: She probably has most cleaning. But I earn more money.

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Ricky: See that? Yeah, well…

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Flav: jewel Do you like this big house, do you? Just know the stress it's taken to get here. All right, well. You just whip you whi really yeah you whip the around then. ah

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Ricky: ah I don't, and that's the thing.

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Flav: I don't.

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Ricky: ah

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Flav: I don't talk to her like that.

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Ricky: You do, I've heard you.

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Flav: I don't. No, I would never.

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Ricky: ah burgie you've You've got…

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Flav: um

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Ricky: Three. Two. Two and a half. two and a quarter right that's it well done thank you and the the hoover and i um

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: I don't mind hoovering. I enjoy it, but we've got one of those fucking… Henry Hoover's just a cumbersome bastard.

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Flav: Yeah, same. We got him.

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Ricky: following me around, just rolling around everywhere. Just fucking… i'm looking forward to when it breaks and then i get a you know a nice little shark number up you know one of the ones that charges

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Flav: ah No, sharks…

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Ricky: on the world.

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Flav: Crap.

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Ricky: Oh.

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Flav: We've got some… i mean is it who I'm not sure who the chat should really be a thing.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: I've got two Sharp Project put products and they're both… Dog shit. Don't buy them.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Flav: Dyson probably.

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Ricky: Yeah, okay. What, Dyson?

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Flav: Yeah, they're lumpy, don't they?

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Ricky: I think you are right about the hoover chat, so I'm going to start the jingle.

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Flav: Yes, moving.

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Flav: government fe and has the right to speak.

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Ricky: Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous. It's episode 163. I'm Ricky, he's Flab, two best mates, one main topic. We answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature Something Only You Know and everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast.

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Ricky: I didn't… ask How are you doing? In good spirits.

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Flav: Mate. Honestly… This morning I woke up and I felt really low. I don't know what.

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Ricky: what 00:12:08.100 Flav I just felt… Really, really. Just… Depressed. That's what I felt when I woke up for the first time. in

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Flav: for a long long time. I don't know why. I have no idea what it is. but uplifted. No. I feel a bit better now, but I've got like an anxious knot in my chest for some reason.

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Ricky: That's good.

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Flav: I don't know. I've got to go to London later.

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Ricky: yeah do Do you think it's going to London and doing a live show?

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Flav: Maybe it's that.

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Ricky: Do you think that might be the nut?

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Flav: Ah, I can't sit down. Not really. I haven't even prepared for it. I don't feel any way about it really. i I'm happy to do it. it's Talking in. in front of that a group of 150 people.

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Ricky: Mmm.

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Flav: Who? Love the pod.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: They're there because they love the podcast.

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Ricky: Yay.

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Flav: it's like talking to your family Just that they're all boys. about the age of 21. 150 21 year old lads.

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Ricky: yeah

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Flav: um So, I don't know, mate. That's how I'm feeling today. I don't know why I didn't. I didn't. tell my missus i just got with it really but i just felt It's weird.

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Ricky: Firm there. yeah do I have…

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Flav: but Sorry, it made me think that if I didn't, like, because talking to you is helping.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Mmm.

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Flav: And I'm thinking, like if you're lonely and depressed, like how awful that situation would be because you can't have anyone talk.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: you out of it. You can't get out of it gets entrenched in.

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Ricky: Yeah. And I kind of like. Um… Even if, right. I was thinking about this the other day. um ah and these are like assumptions when you like when you talk to someone even though when you talk to someone right and you know your issue or you know your problem uh i don't know your car's broke down you haven't got the money and even if you speak to someone even though You know what the solution is.

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Ricky: they can't give you the money there is no like after speaking to them you know kind of better off but you just will feel lighter because you've had this conversation.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: And you kind of like. maybe you might have thought of something else or whatever it might have been So there is that, but so there are times where ah where I've woken up And I have days as well. Like I'll have two or three days where I'm just like.

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Ricky: What am I doing? like what like like what Why do I feel like this? why it's It's weird.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: And then I'll kind of come out of the funk.

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Flav: Yeah. i I've got nothing to feel that way about. like I'm fine. like The major stresses of… The house passed. There's a couple of lingering stuff, things that need to be sorted. in um financial stuff but Generally, it's fine. I don't know. It just caught me off guard. I woke up and I was like, I don't want to get out of bed.

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Flav: I don't wanna… I don't

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Ricky: ay Right.

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Flav: ah I want to just stay here. and Doomscroll.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: when I go and do the podcast and I don't want to. do a preview for the first Spurs game and I don't want to get go on a train to London and I don't want to do a live show. and i don't That's what my brain was saying.

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Ricky: Are you staying in London?

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Flav: Nah, I'm gonna come back. ah come back

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Ricky: Oh good.

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Flav: So just, we'll come. or Watch a bit of the game and then… You'll get drive backing. not drive back sorry I'll get a taxi Uh,

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Ricky: Oh, good.

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Flav: Yeah. So… Good night, man. Let's explain.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: But his lips didn't.

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Ricky: Sometimes it sometimes happens. What I will, um maybe this might lighten your mood, but we've been sent a voice note in.

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Flav: Oh yeah.

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Ricky: from from one of our listeners. I've had to… change the voice. So I don't know if I've changed it too much, but you should still be able to. hear it so here we go

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Flav: Yeah.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: ah fuck Oh.

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Flav: That is so good. That's cheered me up so much.

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Ricky: Yeah. I thought that much. Oh, God, it's that's a nightmare.

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Flav: Do we know that guy?

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Ricky: We do know that guy.

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Flav: Because I kind of recognize the cadence, but I can't.

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Ricky: it Right,

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Flav: I don't know i don't know I don't know who exactly it was.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: ah Yeah, if I…

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Flav: I felt like I needed to shit and then it just immediately shit myself.

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Ricky: Eh? Yeah, didn't didn't even finish the sentence just now in his shorts 00:17:44.100 Flav ah Because whenever when that's happened to me, it's like…

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Ricky: Sh- Jesus Christ.

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Flav: Peace. It's it's like that like… liquid, hot liquid snake.

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Ricky: yeah yeah yeah yeah

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Flav: Which is something you can't control, right? Because literally liquid is falling out your arsehole.

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Ricky: Yeah.

00:17:58.25
Flav: That sounded like he had lucky. A big one.

00:18:00.73
Ricky: Yeah.

00:18:01.36
Flav: Like a Lincoln logger.

00:18:02.34
Ricky: Yeah. yeah ah i um So with with the ah the the hot liquid, there's normally a… A thing where… there's like my stomach isn't feeling great And I'll go to a push a fart out and it'll be like, there's more resistance. And I know. If I if i do go for that push.

00:18:21.49
Ricky: I know what's going to happen so I don't do it.

00:18:22.46
Flav: because you you you're so experienced in shooting yourself that you know the difference between

00:18:28.01
Ricky: Yeah, I do. Honestly, it's and there has been loads of times fucking loads.

00:18:32.92
Flav: I mean, i I… I think… I think the only time I've ever done it was… when against Spurs last season or I was on the sofa and just shit myself Just saying.

00:18:45.47
Flav: Just sitting on the sofa. As a… grown man.

00:18:49.81
Ricky: Yeah.

00:18:50.70
Flav: And just… Just shoot myself on the side.

00:18:52.36
Ricky: Yeah.

00:18:55.78
Flav: I was like, I know, you know, you know. Oh, my God. Why is it so hot?

00:19:00.55
Ricky: ah that this ah This is one time. can't I was with, um I don't know why, but i it was just me and your brother, Ryan. ah we We are out.

00:19:10.71
Flav: Yeah.

00:19:12.32
Ricky: ah We'd been. doing god knows what i got in And I was. like absolutely gagging and i mean gagging for a shit and this is back in like the 2000 and whatever it was earlier.

00:19:25.08
Ricky: And. as i was putting the key into the door of my flat. My stomach was just like, you just got to give up the ghost. And not at all, just… It just all came out of me. But I was wearing skinny jeans at the time. So it just filled next to my thigh.

00:19:41.50
Ricky: so So it's like… a massive bulge next to my thigh like a baby nappy just on my thigh and i was like oh for fuck's sake so i had to tiptoe down the hallway into the shower and just take my jeans off and it was just oh good lord

00:19:43.03
Flav: but

00:19:55.79
Flav: Wait. That's so funny.

00:19:57.83
Ricky: Yeah, it happens to the best of us. Right.

00:19:59.77
Flav: you Women are shitting themselves.

00:20:01.64
Ricky: Do you know what?

00:20:01.68
Flav: I've never known of a woman to shit herself.

00:20:02.10
Ricky: ah I asked a mate of mine, a girl mate.

00:20:05.67
Flav: Yeah.

00:20:06.60
Ricky: And I said, like… but I think we were talking about the pod. And I was saying about. you know men shitting themselves or skids or whatever and i was like it's so funny that you know women don't talk about this stuff or it doesn't happen to them and she was like what do you mean Of course it does.

00:20:21.64
Ricky: And of course we talk about it.

00:20:23.57
Flav: Ugh.

00:20:24.17
Ricky: And I was like, oh God.

00:20:25.29
Flav: No, I didn't want to know that.

00:20:25.92
Ricky: Oh God, yeah.

00:20:28.77
Flav: Fine with… Not nine, actually.

00:20:30.68
Ricky: and I know. I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I was like, let's, you know. No more talking this. No more talking this. Do you know what we are talking about today?

00:20:42.85
Flav: Forgot.

00:20:43.73
Ricky: Right. It is. the book 1984 and other dystopian novels

00:20:49.48
Flav: Oh yeah.

00:20:51.14
Ricky: Um…

00:20:52.04
Flav: What do you think of Gillian Anderson?

00:20:54.28
Ricky: She is fit!

00:20:56.61
Flav: Like always. Right.

00:20:58.49
Ricky: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:02.21
Flav: Yeah, okay, that's it.

00:21:03.10
Ricky: Okay.

00:21:02.92
Flav: and so

00:21:04.26
Ricky: ah what What do you think of Jillian?

00:21:06.04
Flav: Long as we're the same. Yeah, cool song.

00:21:08.05
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, of course!

00:21:08.41
Flav: Absolutely. The older the better, I think. I don't know what's what's happening, actually.

00:21:10.08
Ricky: Yeah, yeah.

00:21:12.51
Flav: How old is she? not Not old enough.

00:21:13.76
Ricky: She's got to be…

00:21:16.02
Flav: She's out. Oh, she's just 78.

00:21:17.22
Ricky: Like 50s, mid 50s.

00:21:18.46
Flav: It's too young. See ya. Um… ah Good, yeah, 1984. Interesting you said that because I've got Reddit open and in front of me.

00:21:24.74
Ricky: Yeah.

00:21:27.56
Flav: and um There is a Reddit called India Social. obviously i'm not a member of that And today I got to know that George Orwell was Indian.

00:21:33.61
Ricky: Yeah.

00:21:37.58
Flav: Right in front of me.

00:21:39.17
Ricky: No way, really.

00:21:40.49
Flav: Yeah. He was born in Burma, I think.

00:21:43.58
Ricky: Yeah, well, he was born in a place that is it's quite weird because I was looking at it and it was saying that he was born in like this northeast part of India.

00:21:53.58
Flav: Yeah.

00:21:53.97
Ricky: Um, And then I've seen other reports that he was born in Burma. which is completely different so i don't know

00:21:59.95
Flav: Alright.

00:22:01.21
Ricky: Um, For people that don't know. Um, that we're talking about dystopian novels Uh, dystopia what is at what actually is dystopia a dystopia is an imagined place.

00:22:15.33
Ricky: or society where life is very bad. Unfair. and full of fear. It is the opposite of utopia. which is a vision. of a perfect happy world.

00:22:28.24
Ricky: Why the fuck? Are we so fascinated? Bye. dystopian worlds

00:22:34.21
Flav: What?

00:22:35.11
Ricky: films, books, stories.

00:22:36.17
Flav: May is. all the time i think that the best place to start if you want to pique my interest Let's start with a dystopian world. the like an alternate reality.

00:22:48.54
Flav: like I love those type of films.

00:22:48.54
Ricky: Right.

00:22:50.06
Flav: I love them. like They might not be the best or produce the best. quality. Best writing. But if you've you' shown me an alternate universe, my my my wife's exactly the same as well.

00:23:00.90
Flav: But she loves sci-fi and dystopia. Um,

00:23:04.43
Ricky: Shizzo?

00:23:05.63
Flav: Yeah, just if It's just, I don't know what it is. why what why what What's so attractive about it to human beings? It's how… When the the human mind can create any world, what have they created?

00:23:18.64
Ricky: Yeah.

00:23:20.03
Flav: yeah like my favorite one of my favorite ones is Um… District 9. and Chappy. have you Have you seen District 9?

00:23:31.93
Ricky: I've heard of it.

00:23:33.43
Flav: All right.

00:23:35.50
Ricky: I can't watch everything right?

00:23:35.57
Flav: Right.

00:23:36.57
Ricky: I can't watch everything.

00:23:36.83
Flav: You don't watch anything. That's the point. You don't watch anything. You watch Transformers the movie.

00:23:41.49
Ricky: Yeah.

00:23:41.92
Flav: And you watch.

00:23:43.08
Ricky: Sopranos.

00:23:43.85
Flav: Sopranos and Band of Brothers, that's it.

00:23:45.44
Ricky: Yeah. And only foals and horses at the weekend.

00:23:49.31
Flav: Alright.

00:23:51.94
Flav: Anyway, he creates this… version of South Africa. Where… The… Aliens. have arrived.

00:24:02.47
Flav: But they are. and assimilated into South African culture.

00:24:07.07
Ricky: Hmm.

00:24:07.62
Flav: but they're like seen as the lowest of the low they look like bugs and they live on these these sort of shanty towns and in concentration camps.

00:24:14.68
Ricky: Whoa.

00:24:16.26
Flav: Yeah, and it's about a guy who… ah He kind of… he gets infected with one of the aliens and becomes like human alien type thing

00:24:24.72
Ricky: Right.

00:24:25.25
Flav: but There's loads of robot police officers everywhere and stuff. It's just a really well put together world that's based in what… what we know

00:24:32.47
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:33.35
Flav: Bye. just with an edge. so

00:24:35.84
Ricky: ah Is that a film?

00:24:35.96
Flav: Um, Yeah, District 9 and then there's a spin-off called Chappie. which, you know, the Antwoord.

00:24:42.09
Ricky: Yes.

00:24:42.90
Flav: they they They act in that film. They're quite good. right I love it.

00:24:45.83
Ricky: oh

00:24:46.42
Flav: I love the film.

00:24:47.27
Ricky: Did you still listen to her dance work?

00:24:49.16
Flav: Not really. Did a long time. I genuinely like, I know it's cheesy and corny, but there's just something about it I really liked.

00:24:55.07
Ricky: yeah no i mean uh i wouldn't sit there and listen to it but it's it's certainly different isn't it

00:25:01.23
Flav: It doesn't sound…

00:25:01.48
Ricky: and catchy.

00:25:02.49
Flav: It's catchy. It's also like the first album. but The fact that he's called Ninja, for example, that's a terrible name. We kind of… kind of works and that's they they sort of create like a dystopian world within inside their music.

00:25:17.08
Flav: Yeah, you either think they're the corniest piece of shit band ever or… Or there's something different about them. I think the whole thing's a… but performance really, him.

00:25:26.05
Ricky: Yeah, oh for sure. For sure.

00:25:27.89
Flav: Y 'all and the Vsauce. damn you don't know who i am

00:25:32.14
Ricky: ah What, like… right so we are like We're talking about dystopian. And what about Utopia? Like the perfect world, the perfect kind of…

00:25:46.57
Ricky: place that we live. And why is no one ever drawn to those types of… things.

00:25:52.11
Flav: Because there's no jeopardy, is there?

00:25:55.14
Ricky: Yeah.

00:25:55.92
Flav: Like, why are we drawn to… draw Why is joy at Jaws a masterpiece? Because it taps into primal fear and utopia.

00:26:02.78
Ricky: Fair.

00:26:04.02
Flav: What films are ever made about? such things.

00:26:07.28
Ricky: No.

00:26:08.66
Flav: You need both.

00:26:09.61
Ricky: Yeah yeah yeah.

00:26:11.33
Flav: there's There's a great film called… what dreams may come. Robin Williams. ah And it's in, free I think it was made late 90s, maybe early 2000s. And it's about…

00:26:25.01
Flav: ah He's… he It happens in the first five minutes, so I'm not… breaking and he's So. I'm out. be there.

00:26:32.18
Ricky: Yeah.

00:26:32.43
Flav: Change it. No, actually I won't tell you what happens. Something mad happens. and he has to make this journey to reach her. um But it's set in… She's a painter and it's setting her in her paintings. like what she paints, he kind of can see.

00:26:47.60
Ricky: a

00:26:48.08
Flav: And it looks incredible.

00:26:49.89
Ricky: Yeah.

00:26:49.96
Flav: but it is a sort of deeply sad film but the the kind of light and dark of it is what what works.

00:26:56.94
Ricky: Right, I mean that sounds great.

00:26:59.15
Flav: It's good.

00:26:59.66
Ricky: Yeah. And it's like… We've… The… Like that kind of stuff. and the I was saying about utopia and dystopia. I think for like…

00:27:10.92
Ricky: Fear is is a thing that obviously that you that you mentioned. of why people are more drawn to it. Bye. X.

00:27:22.32
Ricky: What was I gonna say now? I forgot my point. Fucking hell. Fucking hell!

00:27:25.50
Flav: Up. Well, i've got I've got a point that links us to 1984, if you want.

00:27:27.58
Ricky: Okay. Yeah, go on

00:27:30.56
Flav: The great thing about 1984… and Brave New World, specifically about 1984.

00:27:35.35
Ricky: Yeah.

00:27:36.05
Flav: is… Um… that it is based in this dystopian reality. that that is is is like ours. Right.

00:27:45.53
Ricky: That's what I was gonna say.

00:27:45.90
Flav: He. Yeah, he lives on Earth.

00:27:47.11
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:27:49.01
Flav: but it's different.

00:27:49.91
Ricky: Yeah.

00:27:50.72
Flav: Like, there is this imaginary… Oh. some might assume, imaginary war that's happening in the world. Let's divide it, everybody. so they're in this modeat they're in this this period of constant panic and existential crisis, obviously he wrote a lot. about He wrote a lot about um Communism.

00:28:12.44
Flav: socialism. Um, And… ah he created in this 1984 world. ah one that was completely familiar.

00:28:25.25
Flav: but also very different. So that's what was so… disconcerting about it. And what he actually did was predict what the future might. look like.

00:28:34.15
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:34.81
Flav: when writing it in in the 40s, I think it was 47. Finished it.

00:28:38.91
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:40.28
Flav: and This is just after a world war. Where? people were anxious about what kind of world was going to be be before him. And he created a very depressing and and one where…

00:28:51.48
Flav: The powers that be control everybody.

00:28:53.57
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:53.70
Flav: And people have willfully… enslaved. into it.

00:28:57.30
Ricky: Yep. Yeah, so I remembered my point, so thank you for for that.

00:29:02.41
Flav: Good.

00:29:02.98
Ricky: I think like ah we're drawn to dystopian worlds because… we can see it quite like brushing quite close to the reality of what we are already living.

00:29:14.66
Ricky: um And. with' not not i'll just it I'll give kind of like ah the premise of 1984 because there I get that there are people that are going to be listening that haven't read it. Don't know it. haven't watched a film and stuff like that. so We aren't going to. Spoiler. But we're just going to talk around kind of.

00:29:35.49
Ricky: it if that makes sense uh not late for the story takes place in a fictional future the year is believed to be 1984. But this…

00:29:46.56
Ricky: is uncertain. much of the world. is in perpetual war great britain now known as Airstrip 1. has become a province of the totalitarian superstate Oceania, which is led… by Big Brother.

00:30:02.25
Ricky: A dictatorial leader supported by an intense cult of personality manufactured by the party's thought police. The party engages in omnipresent.

00:30:13.75
Ricky: government surveillance and through the ministry of too truth historical Negationism, I think that's it, and constant propaganda to persecute individuality and independence. thinking.

00:30:30.24
Flav: Sounds class.

00:30:30.32
Ricky: so Yeah, isn't it? So…

00:30:33.85
Flav: Yeah.

00:30:35.23
Ricky: So why do you think… That. but when when When was it? um mean it ah Yeah, 1940, late 1940, should we say. Why do you think it still rings true now?

00:30:46.40
Ricky: Why do you think it's so popular?

00:30:47.97
Flav: Because he, he popped, he. predicted so much. that was right i mean like it in terms of physical things that he predicted There was… These things called…

00:30:59.19
Flav: telescreens, if I can remember rightly.

00:31:01.07
Ricky: Yes. Correct.

00:31:01.63
Flav: With keyboards.

00:31:02.74
Ricky: Yes.

00:31:03.16
Flav: Yeah, and a postal system. for… that works on tubes. that would fly around buildings and and and you'd send… he His job was to… at the end copy I think. He was he was a…

00:31:15.31
Flav: an editor for some sort of the the corp the government the central government and so he would be editing people's letters and emails so that they said the correct thing, I think. and revise them.

00:31:27.11
Ricky: Yeah, it's it's kind of like um he he rewrites history.

00:31:31.42
Flav: Yeah.

00:31:31.42
Ricky: so so if there was like lots of newspapers at that time that reported um The nation would get 20 rations of coffee.

00:31:41.93
Ricky: A week. And then the government said, actually, that's too much. like Just go back into all the newspapers and write 15. They'll never know.

00:31:48.84
Flav: Yeah.

00:31:49.89
Ricky: And that's what he would edit, the small information bits.

00:31:49.99
Flav: Yeah. Gotcha. Um… Yeah, so he predicted that. He predicted being able to edit and rewrite text. He predicted that what computers would look like.

00:32:01.13
Flav: There wasn't… you know personal computers in offices there was no such thing in 47.

00:32:03.58
Ricky: Mm.

00:32:05.85
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:06.39
Flav: um He predicted surveillance. ah CCTV cameras again, that things that didn't exist in 1947. not as and not as widespread as they are now.

00:32:18.37
Flav: Um… And he… yeah Yeah, I mean, he got it wrong, thankfully, but it wasn't really… a matter or you know ultimately about what the future looked like but it wasn't really a point of that it was the risk The risk of it.

00:32:33.74
Flav: And, you know, it's culturally significant as well because everyone's heard terms like Big Brother because of the TV program.

00:32:39.40
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:41.06
Flav: Well, what's the TV program? I don't know if they had it in America, but Big Brother was… It was a TV program where… They were. People were put in a house. Willfully, you know. And they were monitored.

00:32:52.87
Flav: 24-7 via cameras for our entertainment. And then they would talk to Big Brother, who was this voice, this you know producer, who would tell them things that they had to do and how they had to behave. and Room 101.

00:33:07.13
Flav: That came from 1984.

00:33:08.81
Ricky: Yep.

00:33:10.12
Flav: So what does Room 101 mean? It's so things that go into Room 101 disappear. Forever. But room 101 in this, I don't know, I can't say you about risk without telling and explaining.

00:33:22.58
Ricky: No, that's all right. That's fine. Um, Just talking about Big Brother. like Back in the day when Big Brother came out, how fucking good was it?

00:33:30.27
Flav: It was well good, the first season. It was fascinating.

00:33:32.04
Ricky: So good.

00:33:33.41
Flav: Yeah. It was really fascinating. that that what like It was the first proper… like a guinea pig thing it was like a social study and how people react in if they were locked up for 10 weeks.

00:33:46.29
Flav: It was just, yeah, it was amazing. Amazing concept.

00:33:48.17
Ricky: and And the thing is, as well, and like… In the, um like in 1984 as well, where… Big brother in this big brother house would tell inmates. or housemates.

00:33:59.72
Ricky: ah to tell them. to do certain things and other people weren't allowed to pick up on it. and give them certain tasks and they're working for Big Brother and stuff.

00:34:05.29
Flav: Yeah.

00:34:09.23
Ricky: It's so it's very… um kind of well connected i hadn't even thought about that actually until just now but

00:34:14.88
Flav: Yeah. It's… it the It's an incredible book. Um… Because… It's… So there's this thing in it. There's a Radiohead song called 2 plus 2 equals 5.

00:34:27.39
Ricky: Yeah.

00:34:28.08
Flav: But it's also, that that comes from… 1984 as well. And the point of that Is. they They don't want you to know the truth.

00:34:40.47
Flav: They want you. to… Believe. something that's false.

00:34:47.73
Ricky: Yeah.

00:34:47.81
Flav: Not pretend. You're not forced to say it. You believe. That 2 plus 2 equals 5. But it can't, right? Because it's maths. It can't be manipulated. It's grammar. is you You can say what you want, but two plus two can never equal five.

00:35:04.96
Ricky: Yeah.

00:35:05.18
Flav: It's impossible. Um,

00:35:11.61
Flav: What? What? What? 1984 is telling you is Peace. can.

00:35:17.61
Ricky: Yeah.

00:35:17.67
Flav: and you believe it That's what the whole that's that's what That's what the government is trying to do. in this instance and so obviously there's nods to propaganda and falsehoods that we read every day. and Now.

00:35:33.51
Flav: You hear hear the shit that's coming out of…

00:35:33.69
Ricky: Yeah, exactly.

00:35:36.96
Flav: trump's mouth or has come out of his mouth for a long time and you're like he's just made that up It doesn't matter.

00:35:43.84
Ricky: No. nay

00:35:44.74
Flav: It doesn't matter. it

00:35:46.49
Ricky: In the…

00:35:46.39
Flav: And he… claiming fake news and things like that when it probably isn't fake news, but he can say it doesn't matter. People like that.

00:35:53.82
Ricky: Yeah, it's… um <unk>s exactly what you said like on uh the two plus two equals five and it's So if you're being fed by the media that two plus two equals five And you're told over and over again that you.

00:36:10.26
Ricky: do start to believe it there there is a kind of like Yeah, maybe it does. I mean… what they're telling me Is it all pretty logical? So… It. It must equal five. And it's like you're…

00:36:23.70
Ricky: changing your thought process changing what how you your behaviors how they want you to think And it's that kind of manipulation. from the government and telling you.

00:36:35.24
Ricky: how to feel what to feel. What not to feel.

00:36:39.29
Flav: Yeah.

00:36:39.32
Ricky: And… All of that stuff that is encapsulated in this book that was written in fucking 1947. And none of this stuff kind of like was.

00:36:46.24
Flav: Yeah.

00:36:50.44
Ricky: as at the four as we're seeing now like you were just saying with Trump. And. The thing is, like you were just saying, like Trump could get on a, and ah you know, we're using Trump as a reference and I get it that there are loads of other. leaders and MPs and Farage or whoever you want to fucking put up there, that they will come out and they will say absolute fucking rubbish.

00:37:15.75
Flav: Beep.

00:37:15.56
Ricky: But half the battle is that your, you know, your supporters are believing it. And the vast majority of people would be like. Yeah. He's right. Who who support him?

00:37:23.61
Flav: Wait. the truth is irrelevant isn't it it's what are you hearing what you want to hear And so that is your truth. It depends on… your perspective. like if probably People don't know, right?

00:37:33.81
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:34.98
Flav: This is… I mean, we're describing the themes that are exist inside the book, but it's a novel, really well written. Really easy to read. novel it's not too long it's like 180 pages

00:37:43.29
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:45.95
Flav: Orwellian language is typically quite and Blunt. and concise to the point. There isn't. There is nothing flowery about this book.

00:37:54.06
Ricky: Mm.

00:37:54.38
Flav: It's very precise. I'm deliberately so, but he's… he's Right and Sal has always been that way. Um, And it's about a man who exists in this society that he thinks is not. Correct.

00:38:09.34
Flav: And. He's seeking. another truth. And it goes about how he goes about finding that truth is… the is the book.

00:38:17.27
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:17.98
Flav: Um, And it's it's a really great story. like some Everybody should read this. But the reason why it had such a resonating with me is because my brother Ross in 2002 gave me a copy of the book.

00:38:29.80
Flav: and he wrote inside it. I've still got it. He wrote inside it. Knowledge is power. And… um I remember I was like that's fucking cool it's a cool gift

00:38:38.91
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:39.03
Flav: It's called it, it's written in it. And I read it. from that point and it blew me away. I think I did it in two sittings.

00:38:46.09
Ricky: Shit!

00:38:46.85
Flav: I think so. It was… um Mate, it was class. Now I've got like… I've got like 16, 17, maybe 20 different versions of it. ah' bought I've got the facsimile.

00:38:57.55
Ricky: Fuck.

00:38:58.71
Flav: the his notes when he was writing it. You know where he wrote it? He wrote it in… some tiny little island in the I think it's the Scottish Hebrides. there are hundreds

00:39:09.50
Ricky: Yeah yeah yeah.

00:39:10.88
Flav: hundreds of islands and there's there's There's one island where he wrote it. And it was had a capacity. a population of around 200. and you can make pilgrimages to there now.

00:39:23.55
Ricky: Fuck!

00:39:24.74
Flav: There's this little room we rented and he just wrote and wrote and wrote. Yeah.

00:39:28.96
Ricky: god that is It feels like a time gone by, like that era of where… All this… or writers certainly do that where they would just go away from the world and just

00:39:41.57
Flav: like hermitized themselves, yeah.

00:39:41.60
Ricky: hide themselves ya yeah yeah yeah

00:39:44.39
Flav: Yeah. um Yeah, so… I think it's such a great book.

00:39:50.32
Ricky: I remember you, um when I came to yours, every time I used to come to yours, when I first moved to London. And I was living. in that room share. like a few roads over and i'd come down and we'd be having conversations most nights smoking weed and just you know just shooting the shit and you'd be like What? You've not read that book? Every time I'd leave your fucking house, I'd leave with like a pile of five books.

00:40:12.49
Ricky: Every time. ah which was great, and I read them.

00:40:13.94
Flav: Yeah.

00:40:15.78
Ricky: Amazing.

00:40:15.94
Flav: Yeah.

00:40:17.20
Ricky: 1984 was one of them. and At that time… Like, I… am a local Milton Keynes boy and boy is the right word naive didn't really understand the world didn't really understand how things worked was quite I…

00:40:37.45
Ricky: you know, just a primitive Work. The nine to five drink beer. And that was it really. I didn't really think about anything else. Football.

00:40:48.47
Ricky: Whatever. And then when when I read 1984… And… It was… A real moment. In my mind, I remember thinking this is one of the.

00:41:03.01
Ricky: one of the moments that has affected me like the most in discovering like self-discovery of the control. of information. 00:41:14.100 Ricky And what I mean by that is… Like… Like we were saying about the 2 plus 2 equals 5. And. the media narrative and what i'm Read it.

00:41:29.06
Ricky: To question it. Like, is that right? like they that there's ah There's a part in it. And I'm not going to be spoiling. the main parts of it but there's a a dictionary that comes out each year

00:41:37.88
Flav: Yeah.

00:41:43.17
Ricky: and the words Get. the the dictionary gets smaller and smaller. So that you're unable to describe things and be as, to you know, be descriptive and.

00:41:53.90
Ricky: I give things with. much emotion. But it's the deletion of. words. and the deletion of different things whereby…

00:42:05.04
Ricky: You are. Like… You always believe that there was the word, I don't know. Cupboard. But it's been replaced. And after a few years, no one really remembers the word cupboard and what it was for.

00:42:18.08
Flav: Yeah.

00:42:18.71
Ricky: And it's that's what broke my mind is to say. Fuck. So… What I'm reading? What I'm hearing… What I'm listening, like…

00:42:29.23
Ricky: What is real? I don't know.

00:42:30.84
Flav: Yeah. Yeah. It's mad, isn't it? it is that I had a similar impact on me in that I was… 20… one when I read read it.

00:42:41.88
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:42.51
Flav: And. Bye. yeah I ended up and thinking… Oh my god. Not everything is how I think it is.

00:42:49.14
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:50.95
Flav: Um… And you get quite angry. And you're like, well, I'm not standing for this. I'm going to be the, because you know when you're young and you're idealistic and you you think you can change the world and you think you can have.

00:42:58.19
Ricky: Yeah.

00:43:02.32
Flav: an impact on how… things work. and And then as you get older and more. So. savvy. you realize you can't.

00:43:09.78
Ricky: Mmm.

00:43:10.24
Flav: All right. Dun dun. Don't worry about that. Because… whatever will be is going to happen.

00:43:17.19
Ricky: Yeah.

00:43:18.27
Flav: it's like you know

00:43:21.65
Flav: Straight of her moors is a… is is worrying isn't it because it costs us more to fill petrol but what Can you do? You know, we can spend some, like my dad shouting at the TV that week. you can't affect any of these problems and it doesn't actually affect your life.

00:43:34.86
Ricky: Yeah.

00:43:35.36
Flav: So what the fuck are you doing? Um… Yeah, so that was that was interesting. ah Just how how how much my mind shifted by just by reading it.

00:43:45.65
Ricky: And it's like like you were just saying straight off Homo's. And. ah you know, It's an easy example, but Trump. the the gulf of mexico Nah, it's more American waters. I'm changing it to the Gulf of America.

00:44:01.20
Ricky: And it's like…

00:44:02.32
Flav: For how long?

00:44:03.19
Ricky: Yeah, but the thing is, like if that's printed in in news and it's changing the world and changing the minds of Americans and then that gets passed on. your kids at school?

00:44:13.08
Flav: Yeah, One Generation, it's called that.

00:44:13.41
Ricky: What's that? And exactly. And that's it.

00:44:16.04
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:16.77
Ricky: Goal for Mexico is. erased and it's been there for hundreds of years and then no one ever remembers it as that and it's that changing of information like What's the…

00:44:29.45
Ricky: That part is incredibly… Scary. and like there Are there any other parts of 1984 which made you feel like… I don't know, were apart from the changing of history and and words and stuff like that.

00:44:44.83
Ricky: Was there any but parts that scared you in particular or that made you. Think. otherwise.

00:44:51.02
Flav: No, it was it was just the general themes that would come through was the the lasting and obviously the intense, the bleak.

00:44:53.95
Ricky: Yeah.

00:44:59.47
Flav: Uh… I mean, when you're reading 1984… you know, that there is ah because the whole principle of the book is that there is No happy ending, right?

00:45:10.39
Ricky: Yeah.

00:45:10.69
Flav: So it's not like… Oil would never write a book. the Ends with… Do you know what I mean? It's not what you… is' you know deeply thoughtful and Uh, quite I think quite depressed man.

00:45:25.74
Ricky: Mmm.

00:45:26.20
Flav: who wrote about very heavy subjects. And none of it was lighthearted.

00:45:29.98
Ricky: Yeah.

00:45:31.15
Flav: even Animal Farm, which is about… Animals. As. human beings like personified that can speak to each other and but it's about a farm.

00:45:41.04
Ricky: Yeah.

00:45:41.28
Flav: which What it's really about is… ah communist control and whatnot. That's the themes, the dark, dark themes and really dark stuff happens in Animal Farm. ah So…

00:45:53.21
Flav: the The fact that…

00:45:57.34
Flav: you know, the that essentially. You can't win. like It doesn't matter how much you expose. It doesn't matter how much you… You fight. It doesn't know how much you try to dig up. You can't.

00:46:10.82
Flav: beat the system. And that's the reality.

00:46:13.27
Ricky: No. That's depressing.

00:46:14.53
Flav: So that was all quite, I didn't think that then. But I think that now.

00:46:17.10
Ricky: Hmm.

00:46:18.07
Flav: So. kind of You know.

00:46:19.96
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

00:46:21.35
Flav: replace you know the point in terms of like names changing as well like you know Zimbabwe. Do you know what it used to be called?

00:46:27.86
Ricky: Um… No.

00:46:31.71
Flav: right it had a completely different name

00:46:34.99
Ricky: What was he called?

00:46:35.89
Flav: Rhodesia.

00:46:37.33
Ricky: Oh shit, yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:46:39.05
Flav: Yeah your daughters won't know that.

00:46:40.57
Ricky: Yeah.

00:46:43.52
Ricky: This is what we're talking about

00:46:43.77
Flav: They won't know.

00:46:45.58
Ricky: the the The thing is as well, not another part of it is… um and Like we're not so spoiling the the whole book for you here, but. It's the main like talking point of the the thought police.

00:46:59.25
Flav: Oh, yeah. yeah

00:47:00.33
Ricky: So… X. the the The part in… You are… encouraged not to think about certain things And you're encouraged to think about certain things in specific ways.

00:47:15.72
Ricky: Now you could take that as in. you're encouraged to Think about. a specific demographic in a certain way because that's what the media want you to think about or a certain country.

00:47:30.19
Ricky: or whatever it might be.

00:47:32.38
Flav: Yeah, or you or identity politics.

00:47:32.89
Ricky: but Yeah.

00:47:34.65
Flav: It's like you you you do you get… ah you get chastised or vilified or cancelled because… you you're You're not… like you don't You don't think… you You might think. in a different way that is socially acceptable at the moment.

00:47:48.39
Flav: Right. What? Orwell would not have been for… Uh, trans identity. politics. Bing. uh,

00:48:00.41
Flav: restrictive restricting people in in how what they actually believe.

00:48:04.76
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:05.58
Flav: that That would have been the opposite. That's kind of what… sort of fascist socialism. has been like in the past. past don't you cannot say that and if you do you're gonna be beaten you're gonna be attacked you're gonna be you're gonna lose your job you're gonna do all those things.

00:48:16.69
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:20.98
Ricky: So it's like, yeah, I mean, with that. How close do you think that we are like to? ah like a totalitarian.

00:48:29.81
Flav: I don't…

00:48:30.08
Ricky: Stay.

00:48:30.82
Flav: Well… This is the thing, right, is that 1984 predicted it a lot, but it's such, such it's he got it wrong. There's themes that you… that were correct.

00:48:40.57
Ricky: Right.

00:48:41.99
Flav: and things that you can talk about, but… it is such a separate It's so separate from how the… future turned out. but Um… and that's fine as well because it's a piece of fiction it didn't need to get it right but But Brave New World, Thomas Huckley.

00:48:57.25
Flav: Huxley book. That's scarily accurate.

00:49:00.52
Ricky: Yeah.

00:49:01.04
Flav: because that was in i think that was written in i can't remember it when it was written 50s maybe definitely after He was a big fan of 1984. Aldous Huxley. And he was a… Music. He was a scientist if I believe rightly or or worked in some sort of chemistry or physics um

00:49:16.48
Ricky: Yeah.

00:49:19.01
Flav: But his prediction of the future is… scarily close.

00:49:23.39
Ricky: So i've got two I've got two here, right? So Orwell essentially… fears control. through fear, surveillance and repression.

00:49:34.22
Ricky: Aldous Huxley's Brave New World imagines something different. People are controlled partly through pleasure.

00:49:40.34
Flav: Yep.

00:49:40.85
Ricky: conditioning consumption. and distraction.

00:49:43.17
Flav: Yep. Yes. So therein lies obviously themes that are much more. in line to what we… what we experienced today.

00:49:52.45
Ricky: Yeah.

00:49:53.10
Flav: Drugs. Take drugs. Drugs is a big part of… Brave new world.

00:49:56.15
Ricky: Yeah.

00:49:56.55
Flav: especially for wives. Um, Women. there was Was it called Soma?

00:50:02.28
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

00:50:02.06
Flav: Soma? Yeah. which I can't remember if it just makes them just make them feel… Good. What makes them feel nothing? I can't remember. But… whenever someone is remotely Depressed. or feel it anyway, they they they're prescribed Soma.

00:50:18.69
Flav: which kind of links to kind of like antidepressants and things like that of the modern era. But consumerism, materialism as well is a massive part of it.

00:50:25.48
Ricky: Yeah.

00:50:27.44
Flav: ah which is you know the same for for us today. um And if you… can If they're not necessarily controlling by fear, but you can…

00:50:37.96
Flav: It's the ah opium of the masses. What do they call that football? The opium of the masses. Is that right? Football figures. So… it It's a different way of control and it's much closer to what we have here because you imagine the things going on.

00:50:52.40
Ricky: Mmm.

00:50:52.58
Flav: around the world. And we'll talk about them. and The. potential um you know things that are going on that directly concern us that we wouldn't like

00:51:03.39
Ricky: Yeah.

00:51:03.49
Flav: But it's fine because we're watching but but're talking about football all the time.

00:51:06.02
Ricky: We're watching Netflix.

00:51:06.40
Flav: and we

00:51:06.94
Ricky: We're, you know.

00:51:07.57
Flav: watching Netflix. please We can't down the boozer. having a few beers we were encouraged to drink it in fact there were messages

00:51:10.26
Ricky: Yeah.

00:51:14.75
Flav: There have been for a long, long time. um you know, adverts about drinking. they're still and and smoking and all these things as long as you're not looking up. And then they then you create. conflict between or groups of people.

00:51:29.75
Flav: So the anger, and if there is any, exist is is aimed at other people. rather than the people that actually make these decisions.

00:51:39.01
Ricky: And it's all, you know…

00:51:39.60
Flav: it's a great book

00:51:40.54
Ricky: Yeah, Ace… When you read those and you you apply it to today. And it is scarily close, both of them. And even like the surveillance part of like Orwell, like on Facebook.

00:51:54.93
Ricky: you You always say, oh, i met someone made a post on Facebook and they got arrested or or whatever it might be.

00:52:00.92
Flav: Yeah.

00:52:01.47
Ricky: Um, And then. you know, there's a war on in Ukraine, but. The next season of blah, blah, blah has dropped on Netflix. Don't worry about that. ah um And it's like, fuck, just gorge yourself on 10 hours of watching this new series that everyone's talking about. And it's by a specific production team or or whatever it is.

00:52:21.65
Ricky: So we aren't like looking at the bad stuff that's happening because we're consuming. and stuff that makes us feel good and that where we'll be able to uh feel a part of communities where there's a sense of belonging and then there is that other part where The people that are controlling us.

00:52:42.55
Ricky: It's like don't yeah, don't look up at us And then it's like, let's make something where there people are attacking each other. Don't put the focus on you. So these books. even how far they were written back.

00:52:55.69
Ricky: They are… scarily close and I think even a hundred years time that it will still be relevant

00:53:03.79
Flav: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, for for sure. Another one that's that's a lot easier to read than both. Well, not easier, but let less… I'd say. A modern version.

00:53:14.99
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:15.56
Flav: It's Fahrenheit 451. I really… Loved that by Ray Bradbury.

00:53:19.35
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:20.43
Flav: And that's about how we absorb media and and consume now. And that there was this group of you know government service called Firemen. but They weren't there to set out fires. They were there to…

00:53:33.33
Flav: Put out fires. Burn books, basically.

00:53:36.14
Ricky: Yep. Yeah.

00:53:37.32
Flav: so that people won't remember what was said previously and that they can't challenge conformity. yet and they' They have these rooms. They're like info rooms or entertainment rooms where…

00:53:49.41
Flav: this the wall the whole room, but f- front um ah you know, your your front room. The walls are TVs. And… you would pay and save up so you can get this room with two two walls that are also TVs. And then there's these games you can play where you exist inside the soap.

00:54:09.85
Flav: opera.

00:54:10.72
Ricky: Yeah.

00:54:11.09
Flav: Basically… consume as much of your attention as possible. Without. ah so to ensure that you're not thinking about anything else other than… Just being entertained. That is cool, that stuff. I love that.

00:54:23.00
Ricky: yeah i mean just even talking about this stuff i am definitely going to go back and read those books i read them years ago when i was with you and i would like to have a little dabble with those now

00:54:30.71
Flav: Yeah.

00:54:35.41
Ricky: Does… Do you think? And we'll finish. Actually, there is one what one email I want to read out. There is one.

00:54:41.93
Flav: Yeah.

00:54:42.93
Ricky: um last part like do you think every generation thinks like dystopia is just around the corner

00:54:50.79
Flav: Yeah, in the same way that we think that we… the last generation to live Like…

00:54:56.85
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:56.92
Flav: The end is… They've been saying the end is nigh. since the medieval ages.

00:55:01.41
Ricky: Yeah.

00:55:01.90
Flav: It's not, is it? It's still here. So… Everyone thinks ah this is we're going to nuke the world. We're going to destroy the planet. it We're going to be the last ones. I've been saying it.

00:55:11.16
Ricky: It's overpopulated. It's…

00:55:12.57
Flav: Yes, I've put too many.

00:55:12.95
Ricky: It's heating up.

00:55:14.23
Flav: People, AI is heating it up.

00:55:14.46
Ricky: it's that Yeah, yeah.

00:55:15.92
Flav: We're all going to…

00:55:16.21
Ricky: Yeah, yeah

00:55:18.06
Flav: It was fun.

00:55:18.75
Ricky: Yeah, it's fine.

00:55:19.79
Flav: Don't worry about it If we are, we are. It doesn't matter if we're not. which we're definitely not.

00:55:24.57
Ricky: yeah it's wait 100 years anyway you'll be dead so don't worry about it it's fine let's carry on

00:55:28.80
Flav: Yeah. Do you know what I found the most comforting thing?

00:55:29.81
Ricky: the

00:55:32.82
Flav: You have a day.

00:55:33.55
Ricky: Yeah.

00:55:33.63
Flav: when a bloke was talking about death. Is that… Because time… Cheers. Perceived. in order to and to acknowledge time. we have to have an intellectual understanding of what it is it's a concept right

00:55:47.87
Ricky: Yeah.

00:55:48.71
Flav: Time passing. Talk soon. don't know anything about time, nor do horses or monkeys, nothing like that. Only human beings can perceive what time means.

00:55:55.17
Ricky: No.

00:55:57.77
Flav: The minute your light goes out. Everything has happened.

00:56:02.28
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:03.56
Flav: Like… it The minute your light goes out. the The sun. has consumed the earth. is… exploded and the earth has gone into the sun and and it's gone.

00:56:13.59
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:14.24
Flav: It's happened immediately. or it hasn't.

00:56:15.73
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:18.61
Ricky: Okay.

00:56:19.28
Flav: And if you can come back, you will immediately.

00:56:21.94
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:22.04
Flav: And if it takes them 100 million years to re and reimagine everybody. It will happen immediately.

00:56:28.38
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:28.90
Flav: So there's nothing to be scared of. Because everything happens. immediately, the minute your light goes out. in your perspective.

00:56:36.65
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:37.18
Flav: In real time. It exists. It has to go through that 100 million years. What 100 million years got that? when you're when you're dead.

00:56:44.16
Ricky: Yeah.

00:56:45.37
Flav: Said nothing to worry about.

00:56:47.01
Ricky: i still worry a little bit there is a little bit of me that worries yeah

00:56:48.36
Flav: Done. Don't worry. There's nothing to worry about Rick You won't experience it.

00:56:51.14
Ricky: that

00:56:52.54
Flav: There'll be no pain, there's nothing.

00:56:54.03
Ricky: I have been thinking about getting hypnotized. About. Fly in. even though my flight spanned both of them. Fucking perfect. Perfect.

00:57:03.03
Flav: What you still… You think you still need it?

00:57:05.37
Ricky: Yeah, I'd still like to… ah do you know what i don't even think it's a fear of flying i think it's a fear of dying That's that that that's the one that's…

00:57:10.63
Flav: Of course it is. that Of course, what you I'm not scared of flying.

00:57:13.54
Ricky: Yeah.

00:57:15.54
Flav: I'm scared of fucking crashing.

00:57:16.98
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:57:18.45
Flav: I'm not fucking scared of everything working perfectly and you're arriving at your destination.

00:57:21.47
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:57:23.30
Flav: The fear of falling out of the sky.

00:57:25.26
Ricky: Yeah.

00:57:25.65
Flav: Scared of another plane crashing into your plane in a moment.

00:57:28.16
Ricky: Oh, flying at night. I still don't get it. I know you've got…

00:57:31.95
Flav: Would you add that?

00:57:32.33
Ricky: blips and blobs on the screen, but come on, man.

00:57:34.98
Flav: Yeah.

00:57:35.03
Ricky: yeah like if you feels I was so happy my flight was at half ten in the morning. purely for the fact if you're sitting there like i can see that plane coming i could just swerve it It's all right.

00:57:44.36
Flav: Yeah.

00:57:46.55
Ricky: At night. Where are people going? That's what I want to know.

00:57:51.60
Flav: And, I know you mean… I know what you mean. Eh.

00:57:55.97
Ricky: Right, this ah last email, this is what inspired me to do. 1984. Obviously, we both love the book, but I got this email in. Dear Ricky and Flav, I've heard you and Flav.

00:58:08.34
Ricky: Talk about 1984 for years and how much you both loved it. It's been on my to read list for a while. And with the talk of you boys doing an ep.

00:58:15.73
Flav: yes

00:58:17.89
Ricky: about it i thought no better time than the present i'll give it a go I have to say… I absolutely hated it.

00:58:29.31
Ricky: When I read that, I was fucking pissing myself. It might be one of the worst books I've ever read. If the book didn't have the reputation it does. it would have been one of the few books I gave up reading.

00:58:42.66
Ricky: There are aspects I enjoyed. The eerily predictive state of modern society and being the most ah being the most interesting. The way the government functions in the book seems to be the blueprint. That is the foundational idea behind much of the fake news, rewriting of the facts, that seems to dominate political discourse now. The idea of…

00:59:04.58
Ricky: He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the… past controls the future will sit with me as current events are playing out as we speak.

00:59:18.20
Ricky: I just found the book. Ploddin'. Monotonous. and repetitive Maybe that was the intention to get us. the reader into the minds of the party drones and the monotony and unhappiness of their everyday life.

00:59:32.72
Ricky: But I hated it. uh it It does go on. um

00:59:37.14
Flav: All right, go ahead.

00:59:39.76
Ricky: ah just ah The ending was the worst part. I read the last page. and turn to continue reading. And that was it. ah No massive revelation.

00:59:49.86
Flav: Nah, the end is one of the… It's a brilliant ending.

00:59:51.96
Ricky: Yeah. yeah it's so good no huge reveal the book ends with nothing happening i was expecting something

00:59:53.96
Flav: Wait.

00:59:59.95
Ricky: And the last line just anticlimactic.

00:59:59.95
Flav: hip but

01:00:04.20
Flav: ah Well, I just have to categorically disagree with almost everything you've said.

01:00:07.90
Ricky: Yeah.

01:00:08.71
Flav: there's ah that's

01:00:10.19
Ricky: Sure.

01:00:10.70
Flav: but But, you know, I guess some people don't like it. I got it wrong about Brave New World. It was 1932, which makes it even more impressive, actually.

01:00:18.55
Ricky: What, Brave New World was before 1984?

01:00:20.80
Flav: Yeah. Night.

01:00:22.09
Ricky: Gee!

01:00:22.72
Flav: 1932. Uh… i Look, I get the style of writing. It's not everybody's cup of tea. I understand that. And it is plodding and it is, but that's the point.

01:00:29.97
Ricky: Yeah.

01:00:32.02
Flav: That is the point.

01:00:32.13
Ricky: Yeah.

01:00:32.83
Flav: you but you know Some people don't enjoy it, but that's the kind of… like I mean, you maybe you go and read DH Lawrence if you like flowery bullshit.

01:00:41.14
Ricky: Yeah, if you want to get excited, go and read The Da Vinci Code. It's the pay page turner, mate.

01:00:44.91
Flav: ah

01:00:45.99
Ricky: Go on.

01:00:46.76
Flav: ah

01:00:47.69
Ricky: Sorry, I'm being mean.

01:00:49.17
Flav: Yeah, that but it is like you like, I do, I love that email. ah But I do feel less about him, whoever he is.

01:00:56.50
Ricky: Yeah.

01:01:00.27
Ricky: Right.

01:01:00.90
Flav: Mm-mm-mm.

01:01:01.05
Ricky: Um… What am I doing now? Something only you know. It's called the lion's bite and the topic for next week. And it's, you know, much discussion at the moment.

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Ricky: GCSEs. Did your GCSEs actually matter? the enormous pressure put on society uh on 16 year olds versus what actually turned out you know, in the matter of their adult life.

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Ricky: What school subject has proved most useful? What did your teachers advise you? Did your parents heat pressure on you? and When was the last time?

01:01:39.09
Ricky: a job. asked for your GCSE results.

01:01:42.86
Flav: Cool.

01:01:43.10
Ricky: up Do you get the national record of achievement?

01:01:46.60
Flav: Of course it did.

01:01:47.23
Ricky: Right, okay.

01:01:47.58
Flav: Wasted time.

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Ricky: Ha ha! um We are going to be talking about all of that.

01:01:50.80
Flav: Complete waste of time

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Ricky: In next week's episode… Email in, lads. Anon. Pod. at gmail dot com And we will read out. You're a… stories and emails like we just did for the 1984 one now we are going to be going into

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Ricky: The Lions bite. I very rarely remember my dreams and I have only had a single wet dream. And let me tell you… It has stuck with me.

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Ricky: When I was in college, my parents were living in Africa. and I was fortunate enough to be able to visit them over the Christmas break. I'd been seeing a girl. A bird if you will.

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Ricky: who had been entertaining my desires to get freaky. but we had recently broken up just prior to my trip to see my parents. While I was in college I was becoming increasingly interested in a band called Grateful Dead. If you know, you know.

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Ricky: One of their crowd pleasers. especially for the ladies is a song called samson and delilah Heavy guitar. Fast beat. biblical. One of the lyrics talks about the lion that Samson crawls onto and kills it by breaking his jaw.

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Ricky: To cut to the chase, my brother and I are in the hotel room in… Da es Salaam. Do you know what that… That Dar Es Salaam, I don't know where it is.

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Ricky: But… they Someone has emailed in separately to this. That is from there.

01:03:28.30
Flav: Yeah.

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Ricky: We have listeners from there. I don't know where it is. Can someone help me? i ah

01:03:33.13
Flav: I've never heard Da Es Salaam.

01:03:35.27
Ricky: Yeah, I don't know. where it is and like who's listening.

01:03:37.57
Flav: If you ask, I'll just… I just googled it.

01:03:42.66
Flav: Uh… What do you know?

01:03:46.06
Ricky: D-A-R. E .S. S-A-L I am.

01:03:52.76
Flav: Where the fuck is Tanzania? What's that?

01:03:57.40
Ricky: They've chatted it.

01:03:57.29
Flav: Tanzania.

01:03:58.28
Ricky: they've changed it changed Change the name. Tanzania.

01:04:02.71
Flav: that's

01:04:03.86
Ricky: is that tan Is it Tanzania?

01:04:05.21
Flav: Yeah, it sounds in it Such a bird.

01:04:05.66
Ricky: Oh good, okay.

01:04:08.13
Flav: I was like, Why can't I pronounce that? Tanzania.

01:04:12.75
Ricky: Tanzania.

01:04:14.16
Flav: Oh mate.

01:04:14.54
Ricky: It's like loads of expats there because we have listeners there. It's fucking mental. Anyway.

01:04:19.06
Flav: Tanzania. Geez, I'm never going to let that down. Fucking Tanzania. ah

01:04:25.49
Ricky: Uh… I have a wickedly visual…

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Flav: Tell us about Dar es Salaam, though. Tell us about what goes on there, what we what we say.

01:04:31.53
Ricky: Yeah.

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Flav: in

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Ricky: ah Do you know what? Something is ringing a bell and… um

01:04:36.64
Flav: that

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Ricky: Crap.

01:04:37.93
Flav: Zanzania.

01:04:39.27
Ricky: ah Mr. Crossbow.

01:04:40.77
Flav: ah Yeah.

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Ricky: that that hit ive He's visited there there. He's got a story from there. There's something linking him there as well. So please fill us in, mate. um To cut to the chase, my brother and I are in a hotel room in Dar es Salaam.

01:04:55.83
Ricky: I have a wickedly visual dream where I am a lion. The X is also a line. And I go to climb on her. to do the deed. from behind.

01:05:06.36
Ricky: In the dream I go to bite her neck and there is an explosion in my head. only to wake up. I've cummed my pants.

01:05:15.07
Flav: I've cummed my pants

01:05:16.23
Ricky: and I know. Have a bit of that. Only wet dream I've ever had. Worth it. Cheers. And that… It's something only I know.

01:05:25.87
Flav: That's good.

01:05:26.66
Ricky: Yeah.

01:05:27.44
Flav: Yeah.

01:05:28.06
Ricky: Cums his pants. I liked it. Imagine dreaming that you're a lion.

01:05:32.61
Flav: I'm coming.

01:05:33.61
Ricky: And then coming. God. Oh, dearie me. Okay, that was… Actually… ah one call out if you if you hear Something only you know.

01:05:46.27
Ricky: Send in your stories. Number one. We have an anonymous form that is… all on social media it's on patreon so that's even people that are Pain.

01:05:59.50
Ricky: people that are subscribed free you can do that on patreon But there is a link. I can give you the link if you DM me where you can submit something only you know where you are completely.

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Ricky: anonymous there's nothing going back to you no name no location no anything so get the skeletons out of your closet and send them in Or if you just, you don't care, just send it in to ladsanon.

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Flav: assistant

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Ricky: Pod. at gmail .com We're running low. So get him in. Help the pod out. be it Be a good lad, all right? and that's it for this week so Until then…

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Ricky: We'll see you. Next week.

01:06:38.83
Flav: Bye!