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And he, when he painted roundabouts your way. Okay. You know, ask that. I was going to ask you. I was like, you were late to the party. Were you busy painting the roundabout? So you send every letter everywhere. Do you got any devices? Yes. Me? Oh, yeah. No, I'll go there. Yeah. Hundred percent. The start of the first.

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The first painting roundabout was in Devizes. Yeah. The. Some of them are terrible. There you go. Like someone who's got no talent painting some of them really neat. And you're like, actually, if you should be a painter. Yeah. That guy is definitely skilled labor 100. Yeah. Paint decorator maybe. And then others are just a atrocity. Like, don't make it to someone else.

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You can do it properly. Make him look bad. I'm joking. I'm joking. I am when I drove to Manchester the other week, there was a lot of, bridges that I saw with Union Jacks, Saint George's flags flying over bridges, houses and stuff. I'm so I'm surprised that no one like a no one's going to step further with a white front door and done a red cross on their door, or something like that will happen.

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There's a geezer who lives near me who flies. It just. He's just obviously angry at the world. And angry at the situation that this country finds itself in from his perspective, but not just here everywhere. So if it was like I don't know if there's a day to celebrate the Basque region, but he will fly a Spanish flag whenever there's this kind of an American flag, a trump.

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And whenever there's this kind of thing that exists, thing, whether the, the state of old or the nationalistic principle is, is it's hats, it's got a flag up. Oh I see. I don't know what he looks like. He might be a woman. I have no idea. He supports everything. He supports everything is sort of the underdog. No, no, no.

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Oh. Really? Yes. He's flying Union Jacks and and the old St George's Cross at the moment. Yeah. So while everyone else had the blue and gold for Ukraine, blue and yellow for Ukraine, he had a Russian flag. You get where he's coming from. He didn't think about to be gay. Yeah. I don't know. How does it make you feel?

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It? Honestly. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a it's a it's a larger conversation, but it makes me, I mean, like, obviously people have, a sense of national pride, which is absolutely, you know, fine. You know, like, around, football tournaments, Rugby World Cup, whatever. And, like, I love it, around celebrations, even though I'm not kind of a, a royalist.

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And when you've got bank holiday weekends and people have got, the what are they fucking called? You know, just the little triangle banners of the NHL. Yeah, but in bunting, like, I do get a sense of, you know, community. That's the word I'm looking for a sense of community a and a sense of pride. But I feel like that, you know, a certain side, for want of a better word, kind of have hijacked the flags for a different meaning.

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Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it's like where it's like, I get the community feel, the national pride and willing to support. Fuck. You know what this is? No, it's not, it's not. And then when I see that and what I kind of know what the the hidden, agenda is about it, then that obviously makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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And it makes me not feel wanted in my own country or that I have, a belonging in my own country. So you'll probably be one of the ones where we go. Yeah, he's all right. This one's all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go down the pub, you'll be a riot. I'd like that in the 90s. Yeah, well, I want this one too.

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Right. It's a good one. This one? Yeah. He's laughing at himself. Do that curry joke again, mate. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. It does seem as you've got older, Ricky, you become much more able to talk about how you felt growing up and what what, you know, it meant to be have brown skin in Milton Keynes, which evolved even when I met you.

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I watched that happen in you, which is important. Good thing. You know, it's it's difficult at imagine. I can't imagine actually. But, it just shows you. Yeah. Go on, say it just shows you how. How?

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Assimilated. Everybody feels at the moment. And divided and angry and this sort of stuff happens. And these is sort of made worse when, you know, the economy's bad and things are going around. There's a kind of existential crisis that people have gone for at the moment. You know, wars and global issues with pricing and it's very depressing out there because on Israel, it just feels we feel a little bit hopeless.

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Right. And then and so people who are disenfranchized get angry and vocal and, you know, there is there is an issue with how,

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Things have changed apparently in London, like the London that I grew up in. Isn't the London that exists now. And I'm not saying I don't think it's worse, it's just not where I come from anymore. And so, I feel a little bit sad when I go back to London and I can't. I don't feel like I'm at home, you know, I'm not just.

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And I look at where brown paper. It's not that. It's just my. What I grew up with. What I remember is gone. Pretty much. I don't I, I don't, I don't hear a lot of Cockney accent to speak differently. And that Cockney accent didn't exist 100 years before. And probably I don't know the right answer. My point is, is cities like London and all across the world are constantly evolving and undulating and changing, especially when there's, you know, cultural melting pot that is London.

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And I can understand, intellectualize that and accept it, even though I have not. I have a nostalgic longing for being in London in the 80s and 90s, because that's where I grew up. You know, those little things on TikTok. Rick Roots plays that music of kids playing in the playground, and then the Christmas in the 80s, and I'm looking when I'm gone may take me back a million.

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That is like looking at these TikToks. But, you know, what are they doing? And wankers, they know what they do and no one's I mean, Rick and I absolutely do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's funny, like, do you feel like I've got a genuine sorrow and pain in my chest? When I saw it? And what you're actually doing is you're you're transported back to moments that you think were amazing and beautiful and happy and perfect, and they weren't in one at all.

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So you're just kind of. You're, What was it? I had the best way to say. But you're a tourist in your own nostalgia. That's what it is. If you go back, you want to go as a tourist? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, good. So. So I'm a long winded way of saying, Ricky, that, I don't think people can.

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I don't think I think people a lot of people find difficult to accept that things change and they're angry. Yeah. And I get that. I like for me, I, actually mentioned it on, like the midweek Paul quickie of Ricky about, the costs, you know, the rising costs. And everyone was like the cost of living crisis.

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And this was like, I don't know how long ago people were mentioning it. It's like things still aren't coming down, you know, like pints are still 6.50 pound. It's like what? Like I, we would go to the pub. Yeah, yeah. Everything's going up and it's fucking ridiculous. That's the problem. He goes up and then they'll say, oh inflation is coming down but it's not going down to the price before the inflation rose.

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No it just it's that these, this now that's the cost of stuff that I didn't know. And I'm still saying when is it going down. It's not going down is it goes down. It never goes down. It's like so you price of earning. Your price of earning. Sorry. Your wages should go up accordingly. Typically wages can be linked not when you freelance like us, but when you have a job you're you should more or less be linked with inflation.

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Pay rises should be. So I understand why there is this, this content. Yeah I misplace hey, it's gotta go somewhere. Let's kind of, target immigrants. But then even if they did, stop every single boat, it's like, well, who's to blame then? And it's kind of like going back to the flags and how I feel. It's like after you do illegal immigrants now, it's kind of like there's this rhetoric around sending everyone back.

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It's like like when does it when, when does a buck stop? And it gets to me, you know, I mean because it will do, you know, it's like, right, you gotta go back and it's like, well, I don't want to go back to Northampton. I was only born. That made my, my children living in Milton Keynes and me living in Northampton.

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Yeah. I don't know, man. I just, I'm so fatigued I can't even watch the news anymore, to be honest, I can't when when news at six comes on, I turn it off every single time. What's a life in the country? And I'll switch to that. Or. Oh, Chateau DIY sos something. Oh, my, what a fucking grave I'm not.

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Is. We're getting old, Ricky is a great program. Oh, I make so good, right? They, when they buy those, like, 15 bedroom chateaux in the south of France. Yeah, I got no idea how they're doing up. They're just doing it. They're getting along and they're getting people in there. And I'm like saying how much they. I got to look at my mess.

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I'm not sure. Fancy buying a chateau? Yeah. Let me down there shall we. Oh come the. Yeah, I saw it. So it's that kind of like switching off from the world and the people. So there's two sides of the coin. Some of the sides know you need to know what's going on. And the other side of the coin going, do you need to know what's going on.

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Because you can't change a thing. I can't watch one more. Come watch one more news story of some poor fucking kid being blown to bits in Gaza. I just cannot, bring that in anymore than I already have let in. So just don't. And like I said this many times, I've got to a stage where I just don't care about anything.

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Not. I'm not a nihilist. I care about things are important to me. I, but my family and providing for them and making sure they're as happy as they possibly can be. I just stopped giving a fuck about everything else. The, You know what? I think that is the only kind of way that you can move forward.

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Because if you stopped at every single, you know. Yeah, exactly like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What's his name? What's his name? I'm obsessed with that guy. What's that night? A big sort of gangsta rapper. Useless. But what's his name? Jordan. Jordan? Yeah, it's. It is Jordan. It is George. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. This guy does look scary.

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And I wouldn't want to be around him very often, but there's this bit where he's. He's on the James English podcast. So you can you can put those two things together. You already know what type of conversation they're having. What is it, Rick? Well, I'll play it. I'll play it because it'd be better. What? Yeah. Okay. What what what?

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What? I'm trying to find it. Rick. What? What who is this Jordan McCann geezer? I don't know who he is, but it's basically, He's saying to James English, he's he's he's daring him because he's read the Bible back to back. Isaiah back to back. He knows every verse. He knows it. Oh, and immediately when he's saying, I know all this stuff, you're thinking this already sounds like bullshit.

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But then he's goading him on going gun attack. Yeah, how dare you? I want you to test me. I want you to test me. Any passage in the Bible, I know it and then blitz. And it sounds like. It sounds like Ballocks already, but now he's going. It's almost like. If you say so. When I have confidence that you can convince people that you're right.

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It's even when you're not listening. Listen. Listen to this.

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That you read the Bible of back to front of the Old Testament, the New Testament. What was that feeling for you for? There's nothing you can ask me about the Bible. Not until you not start showing off a gentleman like you to do that. Anything. Anything you could think of, I. But what's the best basis on it that stands out?

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The best verse is if you stop at every door of the box, you'll never reach a destination. That's my favorite verse because it's basically about you don't stop every bit of that box because you'll never reach your destination. So that was an actual quote by Winston Churchill. Not in the Bible. He goes, I've read the New Testament, Old Testament, I what?

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I'd actually like you to test me because give me your favorite verse. Don't stop at every the bugs along the way because you'll never reach your destination. Luke said that in each of them, that Jesus terrifies me. But I am obsessed by him. I'm, like, really successful rap career. That geezer. I have no idea who that is.

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Yeah, it's a little, rabbit hole, I reckon. Yeah, I've. I've seen that clip, and, yet, I mean, he's giving good advice there. Like, if you, if you just stop at every news article, every TikTok, every row, then you never you never get to your destination, never get on a mutual friend flow. He always says to me, you're you're privileged to be in a position where you can not care, you can afford, you're afforded not to care.

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So because of my I don't know what really. Perhaps the life I've built or the color of my skin. I don't know exactly what it means, but, I do appreciate that I'm lucky enough to not have to have bombs raining down over my head so I can actually say I don't care about it. I do care, I do care, but I just I can't let in.

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And I think, I think, I don't even think it's as deep as that. I think it's just a generalist that we live in the Western world, that we live in the Western world, we have a British passport, and we have iPads, fucking AI devices, you know, all that stuff that where we, you know, we won't kind of care till one with bad blood.

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Anything. You don't get anything good for a birthday? I mean, she got, an electric scooter, which she won it. Okay, I guess not. You can't ride those on the street. The police take her off her. You know, I mean, it's it's Milton Keynes and it's Wolverton, where I live everywhere. I am the police. My, my my boys mate, he had he got an electric scooter for his birthday, and within four hours, the police had it.

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He was like, really? I mean, he's he was whizzing around Devizes on it like, yeah, I should not be. There. I mean, it's it's they're kind of going up and down our street at the moment and maybe going to the park. It's all fine. It's all fine. Good, good, good. I've also got a SodaStream, which, you know, like, desperate for SodaStream.

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Yeah, exactly. What is it again? Like, is it just carbon emission? Yeah. Carbonated drinks. Yeah. Well, why does she want that? I mean, always when I, when I was her age I also wanted a SodaStream. Yeah. So like she's just drinking like Covid. It's making her own Pepsi. Her own cherry Pepsi. Lime Pepsi. It's like, I don't know, I mean, all of the sort of sirups.

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Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's nice. I was it's slightly different. I mean, it's slightly different, but you couldn't really matter. Obviously you get. Yeah. Yeah, I like it because it's more syrupy. It's that more sweetness that. What are you saying? Are you saying I. Let's broaden the jingle and then I've got a question for you quickly before we go to.

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Right. Go, get. On the night I see, like Band of Brothers playing tunes. He's quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise. Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous.

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It's episode 112. I'm Ricky, he's five two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and I feature something 90, you know. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going, Flav? Do you? Don't you worry about that, do you? Are you, Are you a full fat Coke or Coke Zero kind of guy?

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Not if I because I don't, I don't worry about the calories. What do you prefer, taste wise? Full fat lie every day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Get that syrupy fuzziness on my tongue. Let the sugar hit. I don't know, not at all. Man. Like Coke Zero, I think just tastes better. Is less icky. I don't know what to say.

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Like, Yeah, yeah. And that's what I like. All right, all right. So I like the fact that I know it's doing that. Yeah. And what about, what about is it canned or is it in a bottle? Children, a bottle of chilled canned. Oh, that's a good question. I think, a Coke always tastes better in a glass bottle.

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Yeah, like when you've pulled it up, it does taste better, though. Is different. People go nuts already in mind. It does taste different. Do you think is the fact that when you get a glass bottle, you're normally doing something a bit out of the ordinary, like you're on a holiday or you're in a little restaurant or something like that, a fancy lemon from the bottle when you're in Spain.

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That reminds me of being a kid. I don't so much fun a lemon. When I was in Spain when I was a kid, we were really lucky enough that my dad married a woman whose parents had a villa. They owned a villa in Spain, and we would go there for three weeks every summer. Same place. Have you? Yeah, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't know what the Spanish accent. Yeah. I think last time I put off money today. Bloody comedian. I the, the, But they had to fund it. And then when I came home, I didn't even think about a fund. Lemon. It was only when I was like, yeah, I mean, I'll only drink sangria if I'm in Spain and when I'm in Spain fucking knocking that shit.

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I never drink, I never, I never drink. I think I was put off a sangria because I remember them. I think I remember my mum, my stepmom, drinking loads of it on one holiday and being sick. Sangria, going all over the bathroom. Maybe that was what put me on, the Elite Coke. And this is going to, you know, the Americans are going to list this guy now, today.

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But the elite version of the Coke, it's from McDonald's. Yes. Okay. Do you know, give me. That is better than any bottled. I get that because my daughter, often says that, so I mean, I can. Yeah. She. Yeah. She thinks that's the number one. What's your water when you go to McDonald's? When pigment. Yeah, I, I swap it.

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I'll, I'll either go, Panera cheese or a Big Mac and obviously chips drink and banana milkshake. And then I will have, little. How often are you doing this, Rick? By the way? Chicken mayo chaser. Maybe once every three weeks, I'd say. Okay. Okay. It's. You haven't. Like a milkshake in. It's like to 800 calories in it.

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Yeah. It's. Yes it is. Taste good though. Yeah. Strawberry milkshake. Do you know I've got a fact for you? You know that. What's in the cup? The dye to make strawberry milkshake go pink. Gaviscon. Gaviscon? And it's the only pink thing I could think. Beatles blood. Oh, fuck off. Is it really? Yeah. If you make that up.

00:21:36:06 – 00:21:59:23
No, because I can't drink it because I'm a vegan and vegetarian, I can't eat. I don't give a shit. Like, I don't know why I'm vegetarian. You know the reason why I'm vegetarian is I don't. I can't stop eating meat. It's disgusting to me. Now. I absolutely love fasting, but when we're having roast dinner. Yeah, obviously the gravy, it comes from the base of the chicken.

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Yeah. And I have that. Of course I do. It's lovely. But it's very best. I don't like some fucking leopard. I'm having the good shit. Okay, I me, fair play, mate. You ever think about kind of like a doing a, little like like a weekly kind of a quarter of a Scotch egg or something like that.

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And then weaning your way back into meat, and then you've got the menu opened up weirdly. It's like that would require commitment. And I. I have no desire or want to do it. So you're asking me to commit to something that I couldn't give a shit about? Do not. I mean, yeah, like, let's say, like, you know what?

00:22:42:09 – 00:23:07:22
What am I. It's like you're saying, am I going to drive to the Ukraine and fight their war? No, no. But would I do a little bit of driving each day to get there? No. So I'm not going. I can't be bothered to start training. What's it? I'm not going to stop eating little bits of meat so I can then eat all of the chicken.

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I haven't, I haven't caught up with you in the last. Well, like, probably in the last three days, but I've fucking slept funny, and I've done my neck in. And so my daughter's birthday, I woke up and I was fucked, and I was like, God, that really, really hurt. So now I haven't done that in years.

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And, like, if I've ever done that. But then I forgot about it and I went to drive to the shop to get more supplies. And when I looked right, I was just like, you shop? God, yeah, man, I don't know. Do you know what I mean? When you wreck your neck and then you suddenly paralyzed for about seven seconds and you go, I've broken my neck, I've prayed.

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Oh, this is my life now. Forever. I can't move. And then. And it just goes away very quickly. I've got to live in this car. That's it. Let us. No, no, because doctors listen to this positively. Yeah, we have. I think we could have got in contact before heavenly. That got in contact quite a few times, actually. What is that bolt of lightning.

00:24:02:13 – 00:24:20:19
Oh, you. So you. Yeah. In a day you might turn. You had left a thousand times. Right. And then the next day you might do it a thousand times for a year. You might do it a million times. And then there's that one time you turn it and it feels like you've broken your neck. What the fuck is happening?

00:24:20:21 – 00:24:43:03
And every time I'm laughing, I'm fucking a blood clot. Hell, yeah. It made you to. When you sleep, do you sleep? When you're right, you're left you back. I sleep on my left, and I. My legs are like, And I sleep on my front, and my legs are, like, in a secret for. So it's like, what, like a baby?

00:24:43:05 – 00:25:02:19
Yeah. Like kind of like I sleep on my front. All right, so sleep on the front like that. And looking forward, your legs like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. My leg one leg straight. My right leg straight arm. My left leg is, bent inside. And it's like if you're above, you'd see a figure full. Well, I had the easily just on my side.

00:25:02:19 – 00:25:24:21
I'm always on my right hand side. I do shift because my shoulder aches. Yeah, a lot, but I always sleep on the right side pillow. Hugging a pillow. Hugging a pillow. Yeah. Always as close as possible. I've always done it as a kid. I think it's just fully clothed as well. Thank you. I know that you sleep in your jeans sometimes.

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I've never. I mean, I've fallen asleep on the sofa. My, sleeping pants. I just go straight to pants. Is. It's everywhere. Everywhere. It doesn't matter if it's freezing cold outside. I want the window open. Right. Okay. Window right in this house. Windows open. Well, even in the winter. Even in the winter. Now you need that fresh air.

00:25:44:16 – 00:26:04:13
You need that fresh air, you know? Yeah, you need to circulate. Right. But boxer shorts. Summer when, boxer shorts and t shirt. I have a little t shirt on. No no no no, I can't, I can't have anything on me like that. And I can't be restricted. And you need the leg. You need the wrist restricted by a t shirt.

00:26:04:15 – 00:26:30:19
That's so he said it's like I might get caught up on something and then I get trapped. Who is that? Someone sent you a message about having the regulator. This is the leg out. Kind of sort the body. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he. But he posted it with the some regulators by wearing G. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that made me laugh as well I got to say.

00:26:30:20 – 00:26:59:21
Oh no. Okay. It's, we, we, we're, we're like 26 minutes in, which is good. The topic for today is things that don't exist anymore. Actually, before I, before I, in London, in London don't exist anymore. You've been back there lately? When you were saying that I was about to bring that up. Before we go into that, though, someone tweeted us, and this is the in the copy of the tweet.

00:27:00:01 – 00:27:28:14
It just says, but called me at 2 a.m. needed a place to crash. Didn't expect to be sending these kind of messages at 43, but here we are. And then he sent a screengrab of the message. I hope you made it. Okay. Okay. Home. But couple of things. Number one, I have your glasses. Number two, next time you're over, please use the toilet and not the trash can.

00:27:28:16 – 00:27:51:18
And then the person's reply saying, oh shit, dot dot dot. I'm so sorry, dude. Stuck. Well, the guy was like, say your buddy is like, I like to. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, sort of dumping that trash can. I think he's just got up and he's had a lash in there bin. Imagine if I came over to yours, even if I was pissed up and I pissed in your bin waiting.

00:27:51:20 – 00:28:17:08
It's that is relatively common. Like, I think a lot of people like my, my cousin, he would sleepwalk and come downstairs and open the, the bin in the kitchen and piss in that when he was sleepwalking. What that's does your mental and I but it was, you know, it's a bit of a joke in our family for a few years until, you know, some jokes get old and you start telling them, do you do you have you ever suffered sleep?

00:28:17:10 – 00:28:39:15
Nothing like that. I've done anything like that in my life. Nothing like not touch wood. Nothing weird or massively significant has happened. I've never broke my leg in a bad way. I'd. I haven't done anything. I haven't slept, walked, I haven't. I talk in my sleep a bit. Other than that, I'm pretty kind of find out what you say.

00:28:39:15 – 00:29:06:03
So it's generally saying, like, health wise, you've never done like, an arm break, leg break hurt your back or done, like, been out of action for hernia a while. Like higher ups. Yeah. You got a, but everybody like all of earnings, you've got one. I probably got one. Okay. Yeah probably. Yeah. I mean, I'll explain the gut.

00:29:06:05 – 00:29:23:24
Yeah. So, no, no, I'm quite lucky I, I've never done anything bad. I know your finger story. That was quite bad. But other than that. Yeah, I've had a couple of finger stories. We we're we're running dangerously over it. I, and don't worry, I'll, I'll, make sure it doesn't run well over.

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There's been like normally when I put stuff out there I I'll say we're talking about this this week and we'll get two emails and then that's fine. That's you know people have replied but it's, you know, you know, I'll have to do work and take stuff into the pub this week. Can't fucking shut their mouths, could they fuck me?

00:30:07:20 – 00:30:49:10
Good lord, there was a lot coming over. So things that don't exist anymore, which was which was, you know, it's a good topic. We've already touched on some nostalgia stuff there, but a big one. We'll start with the big one, the algos catalog or catalogs in general. I mean, I, love I mean, how much joy, when we were younger of flicking through a the Argos catalog, I used to folding the pages down, circling stuff of what I want it probably never got, but still there was hide it.

00:30:49:14 – 00:31:20:00
It's not. You wanted it desperately. Don't get me wrong, Rick. But that wasn't the fun. That wasn't what you were doing. No. And and that what you was doing was just looking at all this stuff. It was like having a toy shop in your. In your front room? Yes. You say you had no money sometimes as a kid when you skin like I know you grew up and your your things were quite, you know, difficult for you look you were fed and stuff but yeah, you know, it wasn't like you, you had a megadrive or snares bought for you the day it came out or anything like that.

00:31:20:01 – 00:31:35:23
Okay. So my dad's side of the family, he was, he had money, he was works as a plumber and always, you know, very hard and brought money. And I mean, they separate. My mum went her way and she was a nurse. So she didn't have money, right. Yeah.

00:31:36:00 – 00:31:54:09
We would go to the toy shop just to look. And that was fun. Yeah that was fun. And so we go to toys R us and it was like, yeah, let's go with Russ. And it was never with the expectation that you would get in something. It was just, this is fucking great. I think this is I think you know what being like, you can be introspective here now mate.

00:31:54:09 – 00:32:11:08
Is that why when the kids were little, I spoiled them? I think too much because I just got them stuff. Oh, you want not get it? Because I had a bit of money, a little bit of money. I just wanted them to have to be able to get what they wanted. Whereas when we were kids, I don't think we always that wasn't a possibility.

00:32:11:10 – 00:32:35:13
So do you think those who do you think that's a bad thing? I know because I mean, you know, I don't know them like you, but the times I've met them, they're not like not oil or anything like that, you know. Not at all, not at all, not not spoiled. I don't know if they understand the value of money like I did in I think.

00:32:35:15 – 00:32:51:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I've made it quite easy for them. Whenever they need money, I'll give it to them. Whereas yeah, by the time I was close age I had a job for two years. Yeah, I've got a job in when I was 15 in Woolworths. As soon as I got my something that doesn't exist anymore. Rick Woolies.

00:32:51:12 – 00:33:16:17
Yeah. I, I got, I got my, a National Insurance card, which meant you're allowed to work essentially. And so, I did I went to work in Woolworths and I was there for two years. It was good. I was on yeah, well, my starting wage of 2.63 pounds an hour. That's insane. And they're going to do that, but not a lot.

00:33:16:17 – 00:33:39:05
I always, I always remember as well, my missus worked in Woolworths and that was like when she was 15, 16. And, she never told me we were at school at the time because I remember going with my mates hunting her out to see where she where, go and see her at work. What, you'd find a way for you to turn up and talk to her.

00:33:39:07 – 00:33:58:18
Yeah, well, I just wanted to kind of like her life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a like. Yes, I got, we. When I look back now, obviously, I was like, even at 15, 16, I was, like, in love with her. But back then, there was no kind of. We weren't in a relationship away. You just watch her.

00:33:58:18 – 00:34:21:09
But she didn't know you was watching. Yeah, exactly. Like a friend, right? Or anything like that. The. No, no no no, just hide. Hide and watch. No. But I went into Woolworths and I was looking at all these people and she wasn't there, and I knew she was there and I couldn't understand why. And then one of my mates went, there's escalators over there.

00:34:21:09 – 00:34:44:16
She up stairs and I don't know, let's go up there. And I went up there and that's where the restroom was. And I was like, could a restaurant in Woolworths? Yeah, there was a restaurant in Woolworths. Like a little Woolies restaurant. What? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Never. Aussie. Never. Yeah. Like that went up there. You never guess so I sure it was my missus and she was wearing a straw hat.

00:34:44:17 – 00:35:06:21
You know, like if you're on a gondola, one of these fucking. Not a straw hat. That was part of a uniform. And we clocked ice and she ran into the back, and I was fucking crying, and all my mates were crying. I mean, yeah, that's that's a classic. They should bring Woolworths back just for that. I, I even when I was.

00:35:06:23 – 00:35:33:20
I'm just looking at the Woolworths caff. Yeah they did have them. Yeah I wasn't aware of that fucking line. Brave I looks terrible. It looks really terrible. So I, I even when I was working at Woolworths, I realized that this, this business wasn't long for ending. It was really a terrible shop. What did it have? It had music, had picnics and all the rest of it.

00:35:33:24 – 00:35:57:23
It was just crap. It was like. It was like blenders. It was the Russell Hobbs blenders. And it was just the clothes were just awful. It was just it was it, wasn't it? The, the modern day kind of catalog. It just had everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was. Yeah, I just opened shop and I'll just get everything when, when just going back to Argos catalogs again.

00:35:58:03 – 00:36:18:10
What would you, would you settle down with an Argos catalog. And people are out there younger there. How many younger listeners we've got. This is how we didn't have phones, right. We had nothing. You're evil out playing football, climbing trees, doing door ginger. Yeah. You're inside looking at Argos catalogs and wanking to K catalogs. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

00:36:18:10 – 00:36:46:08
And that was your life. That private life monopoly. Yeah, yeah. So what? Where would you go straight away in the Argos. Khalil? What are you, straight to toys? Yeah. It was always straight to toys. And back then it's, I had a weird kind of, obsession mascot. It tricks. Yeah. Just all the. You could get some really fucking naughty, expensive ones.

00:36:46:13 – 00:37:04:09
Yeah. They'd have, like, jumps and you could get them, like, you could dress it with heels and trees and stuff like that. And I was like, fuck you. Now imagine having one of those that's set up in your loft. Yeah, I'd have to turn the page because I couldn't even bear thinking about it because it's just so good.

00:37:04:11 – 00:37:28:14
And then, you know, the older WWF wrestlers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they would always, so I, I was another one. You could get the, terraces, you could get people, you could get floodlights. It was fucking amazing. Oh yeah. Any of that stuff better than. No, no, not that I had no one. No one I got stuff.

00:37:28:14 – 00:37:50:16
Did they know, okay. Now, what it about is about circling stuff that you want, not what you. That was the game. I was a bit more of a connoisseur, though. Of the August catalog. I think I'd take my time of it. Yeah, I'd peruse rather impatiently. The homeware section sometimes. Yeah, I and I'd try and match stuff that was in there with my house.

00:37:50:18 – 00:38:17:14
What's in there? That's in the August catalog and see how many things I could find. Well, would you like, get like a have a look at the, food blenders and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah we did, we never did. But yeah, we've got one of these. Yeah. And then, yeah. Like I say, is, as a hoarder and I sort of moved on to Katy's catalog, really, which then you sort of look at trading this genes, sanity talk.

00:38:17:16 – 00:38:41:10
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then obviously when no one around the Brother Brazier section. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I swear I'm pretty sure I can see some muff there. Yeah. I was about to say, I swear to God, man, there was muffins, weren't there? I mean, yeah, through the, through the cabin, but not. Yeah, as a sort of 12 year old boy kind.

00:38:41:12 – 00:39:01:00
Why is it so interesting? My mind will fill in. Fill in the gaps. Because he's good at that. Right? 70 years and. Yeah. Your mind. Yeah. Yeah. I have powerful minds. Good minds. Yeah. I mean, I respect it, I do, I mean, like, speaking about catalogs, I mean, they don't really have a place in the world anymore, but speaking about.

00:39:01:04 – 00:39:22:13
Right. Yeah. But the it's the, the the physicality of having something in your hand and flicking through. It's not the same on your phone. It isn't like it's not an adventure like it used to be. No. And you, because things can be delivered straight to you. It's not an event buying something, whereas something like this, it used to be an event.

00:39:22:15 – 00:39:42:22
You'd have to go round to Argos catalog. You go through the August catalog, then you go to Argos. Yeah. Then you would go to, well, you would write it down. What, the code of the item on a slip. Yeah. And you would take it to some, you know, a seven year old kid who's just, you know, it's a first job.

00:39:42:24 – 00:39:58:23
And she would ring it upstairs and some bloke in the warehouse, I would imagine there was just one bloke in the warehouse, but I'm sure there was like a team that would find your item or they would come back. Right now it's that stock of the. They would find your item and bring it down. It's such a fucking mad process.

00:39:58:23 – 00:40:14:16
It's like you'd go in there, it's like a betting shop, like the slips and the little bench. It can. Yeah, I'm going to have a code to go and get what you wanted. Today is August and the things existed. I don't I don't know. Yeah. This August Sainsbury's. Yeah I'm sure it does. Yeah it does, it does.

00:40:14:16 – 00:40:34:06
I'm 100%. So they, they've kind of they're now inside Sainsbury's. Sainsbury's bought them or something like that. Yeah. Yeah yeah that's it. Yeah. Yeah. I think you mentioned it's about you there but all action soccer, the one where you had like a, you had it was like a small pitch, I think in America they had a hockey version.

00:40:34:08 – 00:40:55:04
And you would use your, the little dials to move your player up and down at the end. And that would. Yeah. Yeah. And that was it. Pro action. Soccer coming in. But it was that was a a phenomenal game. I played that for hours and people. Yeah it was good I never like to boot. Yeah I've got to be honest I like the idea.

00:40:55:05 – 00:41:16:18
It's about you playing. It was the terrible name. Yeah it was, it was shit. It was shit. And I think I did have a boot. Yeah, but I'd never quit. Never got into it, never got proper, got into it. I don't think I ever even managed to iron the thing. So there were massive creases on it. I didn't even get that far.

00:41:16:20 – 00:41:33:00
And you just end up someone being and go and you just flicking as hard as you can, smashing the ball. And that was it. Yeah, that was it. I ain't fucking playing. I think my favorite thing about them, though, was the little boxes that the teams came in and you'd find a Spurs box. Yeah, I like that. Yeah.

00:41:33:04 – 00:41:53:02
More than the actual, you know, the actual playing the game I like, I don't like to look through while catalogs the stadiums that they would build in the floodlights and the and the linesmen and the training and the manager on the side, I was more interested in the kind of collector's element. I think. Yeah. No, I get that actually.

00:41:53:04 – 00:42:15:02
Yeah, I totally get that. I mean, again, like I used to, do you remember that shot Beattie's? Did you ever have a Betis round where you, well, what was in it, I see, yeah, it was, I mean, it was like, I think predominantly it was more like a model shop, like remote control cars and boats and planes, that type of stuff.

00:42:15:02 – 00:42:36:04
The Betis model shop. It. But I don't think there was one near me, mate. Honestly, the Transformers collection that they had in there, I like that. When you were saying going to the show, I would just go in there and just peruse like an old man hands behind my back and just stare at them. It was fucking, mate.

00:42:36:04 – 00:43:06:04
It's beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Love that shot. Well, a couple of barber shops that people have listed our price. Oh, I mean, I. Oh, what's our prices? My best job. Did you really. Yeah, yeah. When I was at university, there was something like, I don't know, 200 applicants for one job. And I got it because two years prior to leaving to go to university, I'd worked on the the music desk at Woolworths.

00:43:06:06 – 00:43:26:06
So I oh, a manager is an amazing mate. I think I done their job, I was doing their job and so I would, I got this, I got this job, know what's our price for about a year and then I can't be bothered to go into the reasons why I no longer work there. But it wasn't very interesting.

00:43:26:08 – 00:43:45:04
Something, just not worth nothing. I'll continue to say this. Yeah. And. Yeah, I know you're pulling me in. You're pulling me in it. I don't I don't want to say I'll tell you off, but the, It's nothing. It's nothing bad to do with me. Someone else, the, I fight the boss, basically. No joke. Yeah.

00:43:45:06 – 00:44:06:18
So the. Yeah. And I got the job now before it sort of went out of business, maybe three, three years later. But it was the best. Especially where it being the university. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's coming in. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. You tell you what, we what the most popular albums at the time we were selling was not being played.

00:44:06:20 – 00:44:32:07
It was what I don't remember about being played. No. I think it's like, it's drum and bass. I think it's still around. What the fuck? Anyway, they had an album called, The Unknown. That was what it was, and that it was White Ladder by David Gray. Ladder? Yeah. What else would it have been?

00:44:32:07 – 00:44:59:16
Obviously, the Eminem Marshall Mathers album. I think those are the big ones. The, the thing for our price, the thing that sticks out for me is I met a certain celebrity and our price, I knew they were there, I was there, I queued up for, hour and a half. I met the British Bulldog, got a sign I.

00:44:59:18 – 00:45:19:15
It was fucking great. David Bowie. Smith. Yeah. Fucking wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. A couple of other stores that people have mentioned comment. Com it doesn't exist anymore. I mean, I don't know if it was that great is the Dixons I've done I've Dixons exists just appliance stores. Anything that you can buy online just went out business pretty quickly didn't it.

00:45:19:17 – 00:45:49:12
Yeah. I mean see in a clothing I remember seeing I and I remember some VHS best British home stores. Yeah. My mum some of your mum would go and you'd be dragged along on a Saturday afternoon. Yeah. Like we got VHS in my mind was like top tier. Like it was like an immense. No. Oh was it. Well I don't know if that's when my mind VHS was like it was a respectable clothing store that.

00:45:49:12 – 00:46:17:16
But, you know, I had a bit of something about it, obviously not enough about it because it's fucking gone out of, business. But. And then the last or someone as mentioned is, Athena night people going there by posters like, they're like, yeah, I've heard of that. I've, you know, I've, there's one in Milton Keynes and you just go in there just that these massive like A3 or A2 racks, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:17:16 – 00:46:50:08
Like in HMV just flipping through them, flipping through them. We had three people mention this one blockbuster videos. They man, it was the best. Yeah. It was safe. Yeah. You know there still exists one in in America somewhere and it's exist as like a museum. Like not much to that era really. And still go and rent videos, VHS DVDs.

00:46:50:10 – 00:47:16:20
You can go there. Rick. What was your memory of blockbuster? How would you what would it what would you do? What would it be? So I would always, it would always be the action films as well. It always be like, like I think at the time, like a Jean-Claude Van Damme, my father's influence, those type of action films that I would kind of mainly go to.

00:47:16:22 – 00:47:41:02
Then it was popcorn and like that where our blockbusters was, it was in, I mean, it was in a place called old Brook, which is a bit bit sketchy. So I didn't really like spending a lot of time there, but I did enjoy getting videos out with the misses as well. But that a lot of people have this.

00:47:41:04 – 00:48:07:05
It feels like almost over-the-top nostalgia for blockbusters. Did you and your family were you, a blockbuster family? Yeah, we would go. We would rent films out all the time. But but mainly on a on a Friday night or Saturday night. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we would all go round blockbusters to the point where the staff knew us and.

00:48:07:05 – 00:48:25:03
Okay, not like, like the manager would know us and give us a nod and that would have a chat with him and that kind of thing. And so you would walk around the store and you'd look at these boxes and, and, and you'd think I found one. I found a film I want to rent. Commando or a man.

00:48:25:03 – 00:48:44:24
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Something like Freddo. Yeah. Just hoping that the boxes behind them, because there's the box was behind him. It meant they sock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, some fucker has got it. I'm watching my film. I want it to work. But the really the thing that game changer for us when we were kids is that you could rent video games from there.

00:48:44:24 – 00:49:11:17
So we had a place, we had a megadrive computer. You know, so you can make a drive or. Yeah. And all like, so we at times there was like five of us kids staying over, so we would rent two games consistently. Tecmo World Cup. Yeah. And European club soccer. We last game, we rented those games enough to buy them ten times over.

00:49:11:19 – 00:49:33:18
But it was the I think we realized it was the thing we did. So that nostalgic sort of we didn't want to buy the games. We wanted to rent them from blockbuster. And you realize that if you wanted them for another night, you get an extra day fee. It's fine. Yeah, that's got paid. Right. They take it.

00:49:33:19 – 00:49:59:05
I came back, some of someone actually put oh, they've put, blockbuster and they put and also tried to sneak a look at the blue videos when mum wasn't looking there, was it? They did have blue videos in, but did they know? Not in blockbuster. Well, deny that this is a movie talking. I don't know, it might be, that red Red cheese diaries.

00:49:59:05 – 00:50:24:07
That's something other or maybe a bit of cleavage on show. Not so not like you. No no no no no no no no no I don't think. No not no hardcore porn. People have put that the, things that don't exist anymore that they do miss smoking sections in pubs, restaurants, busses and planes. I mean, like, planes.

00:50:24:07 – 00:50:46:06
I don't ever remember that. They still is. Weirdly, they've still got no, no smoking signs on planes. Like, it's like, surely everyone knows by now. No, they don't, because people got. But I've been in a plane toilet and I can distinctly smell vape unless someone's at a turn out. It smells of blueberry. I don't think that's happened.

00:50:46:08 – 00:51:09:11
I, I, I would, I thought at the time, I remember living in a time where you could smoke and drink in pubs, and then even the smoking ban coming in. I think it's is a brilliant thing I do now. I didn't at the time. At the time I was fucking like every weekend I'd go out forced to go out in the cold to have a cigaret.

00:51:09:13 – 00:51:33:19
And I was livid, utterly livid. I could not understand what was going on. Change, I hate change. We all hate change. Something, right? Cancer. More direct. That's the thing. Yeah, I know, but I oh it was you remember as well, sitting there with no Wetherspoons and like it was like a line where people were smoking and people were like the nonsmoking.

00:51:33:19 – 00:51:51:22
And it's just like you're just in the same place. It's fucking mental how this was even a thing, you know? I mean, not and smoking on busses. You used to have smoke on the top deck of busses, but I think. But there are no so I, I like even though that's come in, I think that's that's definitely a thumbs up.

00:51:51:23 – 00:52:13:10
Yeah for sure. Red, red phone boxes. I mean the road, the there's still about but I have a we've just moved to a new village. We will be moving to a new village and they they've got a red phone box there. But it's just a but I just planted it, so it's, it's not a phone. And we'll it's just become like a big garden.

00:52:13:12 – 00:52:34:17
I quite like that easily. I mean, phone boxes, they just turn to fucking. They just stand there pasted. I a fucking grim places. Yeah, yeah, it was just. It was a grim one. You know, mum used to use phone cards so you'd buy a phone book. Phone call. Yeah. I was going to mention that. Yeah. And then we collect them because they've all different designs on them.

00:52:34:17 – 00:52:55:13
Yeah. Yeah. Something. Yeah. My mum used to go and ring my dad, so we didn't have a home phone when we were little. We got one in them, but I remember my mum and me walking to the phone box to ring my granddad in Birmingham. Yeah, my old mine used to have loads of those cards. I was fucking.

00:52:55:17 – 00:53:14:17
It was so weird time. Yeah. Right before we get run over, I am going to read just list out the thing that people have a nostalgia for and things that don't exist. I don't know whether they want them brought back or not, but, National Service, I don't ever I obviously we didn't live for a time of national service and thank.

00:53:14:17 – 00:53:38:07
Fuck that that hasn't happened to us yet. Milk deliveries and glass bottles. Yeah. We were never a family of that. We we always go to a shop and buy, a carton. I remember my step brother was a, did a milk delivery driver milk float for a bit? Really? Yeah. Oh, my. I'd have to get up at fucking insane time.

00:53:38:07 – 00:54:01:19
He did, but he would Nick playing football stickers so he'd nickel and bring him home to us. And we just, because we don't do the the Premier League sticker book back then. Yeah, but why? Why, well, why would he get a Panini sticker? It is. He would deliver milk. Harvey's milk float would be like delivering the magazines to the shops and and, I don't know, mate.

00:54:01:20 – 00:54:24:10
And it wasn't just milk. It was all. It was food. Right? Was. Yeah, bread. And it was eggs and it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, because I, I don't know how he got them, but you just come back with a box of panini football stickers. So fill the book. Yeah. As it turns out, it wasn't as fun as just buying the of slowly filling him up by buying stickers all the.

00:54:24:12 – 00:54:48:20
Is it? Yeah. The gaming system in there. Iron brew, chewy sweets. I don't really remember those, chicken chicken legend from McDonald's now that I remember, it just doesn't say the worst sweets. The worst sweets back in the day was fruit salad. Cherries, mate, I love the ice. Oh, dear. Blackjacks and fruit salad. Yeah, they might go right.

00:54:48:21 – 00:55:16:11
Jack. Licorice. Yeah, yeah, I never understood licorice was a licorice. Was was a it was a hangover from a time where people had nothing. Yeah. But when licorice was a cherry blossom. When times were dire. Yeah, yeah, I quite liked it. Quite liked it. Sunny delight. I think you can still get Sunny Delight, but, Yeah. Opal fruits are now Starburst chew.

00:55:16:11 – 00:55:38:09
It's. Yeah. Hubba Bubba Panda pop drinks. Now we're talking about soda streams earlier. It tastes like panda pop because Panda pop had that syrupy full sugar. Like, you know, when you're when you've got an ice pop and you get to the end and it's all the lovely juice at the end of the ice pop. Yeah, not really strong knock out.

00:55:38:11 – 00:55:58:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I like that someone's put, 99 pea flakes that were actually £0.99. Yeah, I missed that. I went to fucking ice cream van a couple of weeks back. Could not believe the price of it. It was just like, mate, it's. How can you put £0.99 flake when you're charging me that 4.50 pound? Yeah, something like that.

00:55:58:12 – 00:56:18:22
And it's not making me think this ice cream is shit. It's shit. It's always been shit like that. Mr. and Mr. Whippy. Yeah, ice cream generally is shit in my opinion. Yeah. I like anyone who sits down for a nice bit of ice cream. No one does that. And if you if you're eating ice cream as an adult, you need your bread bubbled.

00:56:18:24 – 00:56:36:07
Yeah. My, my children enjoy ice cream course, but it's not it's not something that I would go out and and buy and mate when you fucking get ice cream out the freezer, it's rock hard and not trying to scoop that shit out. Fuck that. Do you know Margaret Thatcher was involved in the invention of the Mr. Whippy?

00:56:36:09 – 00:57:01:14
I think it might even be attributed to her because she was a biochemist or something like that. And that's how that came, right? I, I'm going to read out the rest. And you're going to bring that up. Bring that up, Jamie. Non-smart. Phones. Yeah, I get that. When you just used to play snake. Yeah, that was that blue lock again, with the technology.

00:57:01:20 – 00:57:24:01
Bluetooth ING songs are noisy images. Teammates. I remember just sitting in public places and just finding people's Bluetooth name and just messaging random people. Right. Pair of tits. And then you'd see their head pop up like they had just sent me. That is me. My feet. It's gonna be brilliant. Do you remember this might be on their ringtones.

00:57:24:03 – 00:57:40:11
Yes. Yeah, yeah, it was your ring. So people don't know you would. You would pay yet. How did you end up paying for ringtones? I can't remember the phone I did. You phone up a number and they sent you the the ring. Yeah. It was, it was like, I don't know, it was like a text ring. Yeah.

00:57:40:11 – 00:58:01:15
So you would text 6156 and it would give you your code for that. So your song for 1.49 pound and it would be like, yeah, you'd get about 30s of the song is fucking that it rubbery ready. But who were you if you didn't have a proper ringtone. What I mean, what do you with my Nokia phone, I just had the simple Charleston.

00:58:01:17 – 00:58:27:14
Oh I, I Bumblebee. Oh, okay. Bumblebee. Yeah. Charleston. I like Charleston is a Panama City banger. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't silly enough to pay money. Well, city enough or could afford to pay 2 pound for a fucking ringtone, but, dial up internet, huge TVs, you know, the big fucking. They like that way now instead of flat screen.

00:58:27:14 – 00:58:55:04
Yes, I remember, is that what they call it? CRT? Yeah. Trying to pick one of those up. Fucking absolutely ridiculous. Cassette Walkmans, VHS. Yeah. There's, there's a lot of stuff. Their channels shutting down for the night. That was that's when you know, when it's time to get a bed. I miss that I, I know for the girl with the, what you call it, she was, was those awful easel they called an easel.

00:58:55:06 – 00:59:19:01
Easel? Yeah. Yeah, I'm like a puppet. Yeah. And she was trying naughts and crosses or the puppet. What? Why was that? Why do they even play for so long? If people. People. It was it channel four. Was it BBC? Channel four? Right. If you're listening to this, you Americans won't know about this. They won't know by, typing on your phone.

00:59:19:03 – 00:59:54:03
The channel four. Yeah. Channel four. Channel four. Night time holding screen. Screen. Go. Images. I mean, it'd be nice. Yeah. Like I've got it. Yeah, yeah. It's so weird typing test card. Don't we have to do channel four nights? Test card? Well, oh. Is that what it was for? The test card? It's a BBC as a BBC, not channel four BBC test card F with some.

00:59:54:03 – 01:00:18:22
We had to stare a lot at stupid kids C decades back, TV channels would shut down for the night. Yes. No, 24 hours. Running TV before circa 2001, the BBC, in his infinite wisdom, would get tired and head off to bed. But if you turned your TV on, you were greeted with with the screen of crackling static and you had to stare at a weird image y.

01:00:18:24 – 01:00:42:15
And the image, as we ever describe is is puppet a go a blackboard? And they're playing. They're playing. Naughts. And crosses. Although it's nostalgic factor for many Brits, for us, we can't say we do like the thing. It's terribly written, but what? What the hell is it actually saying? We see a little girl staring and smirking at something off camera while she completes what appears to be a game of, naughts and crosses.

01:00:42:18 – 01:01:04:02
Next, there is some sort of grinning green monstrosity. This is as weird as it sounds as well. We can only assume it's sentient and competing with the little girl in the aforementioned game. BBC why did you put a picture of some daffodils or something? Why play young minds with such horrible, horrifying possibilities? Anybody did some research and it first appeared in the 2nd of July, 1967.

01:01:04:02 – 01:01:28:01
The little girl is Caroline Hersey, born in 58. She's now a costume designer, but was eight at the time of the picture. Due to decades of exposure on TV. She thought she was the most seen face on British television history. That's meant to. But it's certainly all the same tradition, we guess. This is certainly odd that the same test card was used for so long.

01:01:28:03 – 01:01:48:20
There's no explanation. Tradition is our best guess, but Brits get wrapped up with long standing things. Instead of using a nice image above the clock, we have to stare at a little girl with a bizarre thought. That is, That is fucking odd. I hadn't thought about that in ages. No, and I, I know when someone put that in, I was like, that's a that's a really fucking weird one.

01:01:48:22 – 01:02:16:09
The last one I'll choose is, that people it doesn't exist anymore. The fear of quicksand. I mean, as a kid, terrified. Like it was everywhere. I'd go into the word don't go anywhere. Quicksand or lava. And that's the end. It wasn't helped by Neverending Story. Well, the film, the never ending story, where they have to. If I have to say no.

01:02:16:09 – 01:02:35:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. When the the these horse goes into the quicksand goes and he can't get it out and it goes beneath the quicksand, I can't remember that. That's the most harrowing scene. And it's, it's widely regarded as the most difficult scene in child movie to watch in the history of filmmaking. Oh, no, it was, Watership Down.

01:02:35:22 – 01:03:02:04
Yeah, that's pretty good all the time. I would argue that isn't child's program. I would argue that that is a cartoon for adults. No. Kids support stuff like heroin. It was for kids. Horrible, horrible. Do you, there is quicksand near us in oh, state. Would you? I've seen it. And it doesn't look like Sandy's water. It's water full of sand.

01:03:02:06 – 01:03:27:03
That's interesting, because the person who sent this in is from round your way. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You know, you do. You think so? So here we go. He'll be listening. So if you fancy seeing a bit of quicksand, mate, go to El Stoke. Would there is a if you enter from the Rose and Crown pub entrance, you will and walk down the track there.

01:03:27:03 – 01:03:46:17
Eventually. Come to a pond, a large pond on the side of that pond on the other side as you approach it there. And I don't know what's happened to them now, but at that time of year there were pools of what only looked like really watery sand and bubbles coming through it. If you went in there, you were in this, like a little sock going in there.

01:03:46:17 – 01:04:10:20
That would be cousins that, that's fucking awful. So I found out about Margaret Thatcher. Oh, yeah. God. Good as it will finish off this Thatcher invent a type of ice cream processors. What else? And ChatGPT said, sort of, but it's overstated. Margaret Thatcher didn't personally invent a type of ice cream. But before a political career, she briefly worked as a research communist chemist for food manufacturers J.

01:04:10:20 – 01:04:31:19
Lyons and Co in the late 40s at Lyons Lyons. The team she was a part of helped develop a process of soft serve ice cream more cheaply. The innovation was essentially about pumping more air into the mix, meaning you needed less dairy fat and could sell it at lower prices. This is this is the same principle of Mr. Whippy ice cream, right?

01:04:31:19 – 01:04:56:21
Okay. It's funny, I've like things spread and they're like, no, no, she invented it. She did it all. I've never heard that in my life. That's how I heard it. And I was like, well, it's weird. I like her. Right. Okay, we are going to go over to something only, you know. But before we do that, the topic for next week, we've actually funnily enough, we've mentioned it on this pod today already.

01:04:56:23 – 01:05:23:07
The royal family. Are you a royalist? Should they still exist? What are the pros and cons of having a royal family? Who are your favorites, least favorites? And is it worth keeping them due to the money that it brings in to the country? If you have any thoughts on that, send it in. Or if you've met any of the Royal family, send it into Lad Anon pod at gmail.com and we'll read them out.

01:05:23:07 – 01:05:48:09
I meant, I met Prince Charles. Fuck off twice. What? When I tell you, I say no, say yes, I say, why don't I know this? You need to tell me more stuff. I haven't thought about it in the 25 years since it happened. Just pop in my head that, okay, there's something only you know is called a can of beef stew.

01:05:48:11 – 01:05:56:20
And you are going to listen to that in a second.

01:05:56:22 – 01:06:04:01
Why? Dumb thing. You know.

01:06:04:03 – 01:06:30:23
The can of beef stew. Six months ago, I ended up at a little house party in outback Western Australia with some close friends of mine. We're still all in our 40s, and we had a great night of drinks, music, stimulants and mushrooms and decided to call it a night at 4 a.m.. The host house was amazing. They didn't have kids, so they'd largely built it by themselves and featured beautiful wooden floors and handcrafted benches and stairs.

01:06:31:00 – 01:06:53:05
I retired to one of the three spare rooms, feeling buzzed but in a fantastic mood. I rarely sleep during these nights, so I had Radiohead cued up on the headphones as I lay down on the bed, ready to bliss out until the sunrise. 20 minutes later, I started to hiccup. No biggie. SIP some more, and we'll be good.

01:06:53:07 – 01:07:23:23
Two minutes, five minutes, 15 minutes passed and I just couldn't stop. The constant hiccuping started to spiral downhill, my stomach started to churn and I began to feel really ill. As a naked sleeper, I was already fully unclothed. There was no time to put anything on, and I walked urgently to the guest toilet down the hall. Everyone was asleep, thank fuck, and I sat down with a thump, sweating on the cold toilet seat.

01:07:24:00 – 01:07:47:16
I'm not sure I've ever felt worse. I've had many huge nights, but the waves of nausea now fully hitting me were next level. I was going to vomit. Or was it going to shit? I had no idea. I just sat there in silent horror. Five minutes pass and I've done neither. The waves of sickness have slightly lessened, and I decide that I need to go back to bed to ride this out.

01:07:47:18 – 01:08:05:06
I stand up from the toilet and then completely pass out. I have no idea how long I was out the side of my face and body is ice cold. From lying on the wooden floor. The sun's not up yet, so it could have been. Couldn't have been long. 10 to 15 minutes at. I guess. My chin is throbbing from where I presume?

01:08:05:06 – 01:08:34:07
I slammed into the floor. I somehow get myself up on all fours and begin a slow crawl back to my bedroom, past the doors to the other guest rooms. After a few meters, I decided I needed to stand up and walk the remaining distance to my room as I lift my torso vertically to get up my bowels, release their contents with a sound like tipping out a can of beef stew in horror.

01:08:34:13 – 01:08:54:21
I look down at the runny but chunky brown mass between my legs and on that beautiful polish floor, for fuck's sake, still feeling like death. I must have stayed in that position for what felt like two minutes, trying not to be sick while smelling the foul stench beneath me. I just couldn't work out in my head how I was going to fix this.

01:08:55:00 – 01:09:13:23
While feeling so ill, I muster up all my strength and finally get up and make it back to the toilet, where I clean myself up. I then grab what's what's of toilet paper. I make 2 or 3 runs back and forth, scooping up my own shit, praying that no one opens the door or comes out to see what I'm doing.

01:09:14:00 – 01:09:36:19
I eventually got it all clean, even finding some disinfectant and making sure the floor was spotless. I finally retreat to my room after much washing of the hands and eventually bail out of the home in the early hours of the morning. And that is something I need. I know, thank Christ, that's what it's all about. Mate, can you imagine that happening?

01:09:36:21 – 01:10:00:20
That is like that? You're worse, not you. Shit. You've shit on their floor. Like everything's coming out of you. It's the middle of the night. You've been fucked up on drink and drugs and it's just. That is, you know, reminds me of. For some reason, I think about this story quite a lot, Rick, is you need in your toilet, in your mate's house.

01:10:00:22 – 01:10:23:17
Yeah. And having to go downstairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And within earshot of. Yeah. With his mum who was visiting for the weekend, his wife and children. Well, Dan exited your ass. Yeah, exactly. And the stench was terrible. Absolutely. So why why did they send me to the downstairs? I mean, probably that I don't know if they knew that I needed a poo.

01:10:23:19 – 01:10:47:09
Maybe they just thought I needed a quick way. That would be that. But I'm like, yeah, so I've got this thing right, like, when you're designing a house, don't put a toilet wrapper right by a front room. Well, the toilet for me has to be about as far away from communal areas as possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when?

01:10:47:11 – 01:11:19:01
And this is the thing, right, Ricky? What do you do when you go to a hotel room with your missus? Yeah. Do you use if you need a pump, do you use the toilet in the room. Or would you go downstairs to the reception and use the community all the I would I mean, like, it depends how badly I need to do it, but I would try and go for one and try and find a different toilet because you want a hotel room BMC you don't really want, the stench of shit throughout your room.

01:11:19:01 – 01:11:46:03
Yeah. Why would not that so I think that people out there think obviously I'm weird for that. I'd think it's common courtesy not to use the toilet in this room. And the whole room's going to be permeated with your shit turd. Yeah, like be a decent human being. Just go downstairs. That's not sexy, is it? If you're like, if you're if you're in that hotel room and you're, you know, you're way with the missus, so you.

01:11:46:05 – 01:12:06:19
Something might be happening. Yeah, but you don't want the stench of stale turd. I'm going to put in for the later and ask you how many of you poo in if you're in a hotel room, how many would you poo in the in the toilet? Would you go downstairs and one away from me? I'm gonna. I feel I'll be attacked.

01:12:06:21 – 01:12:30:06
I think the general mood. I know a couple of them. Alex would go in. You're so stuck up and. But it's. What? Yeah. I mean, like, I wouldn't be scared to do that. It's not like I'm doing it because of. If you need to go, you need to go. Yeah. I just wanted to see me poo or hear me poo or smell my poo, but if,

01:12:30:08 – 01:12:55:07
Yeah, if I'm more often than not, I find a way in which the missus. But I'm there for an occasion, wedding or something like that. So you want it to kind of be more conducive to, Well, hopefully happen later. You don't want to skip. Yeah. Don't be scared. And up the toilet. Yeah. Let's not let us know.

01:12:55:07 – 01:13:12:24
So the topic for next week is the Royal Family. If you've got anything on there, any stories or anything you want to add, send it in to lads anon at gmail.com. And until then we will see you on Monday or for patrons Thursday. All right.

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Ricky: I'm going to see Tame Impala on Saturday and I'm really excited.

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Gareth Flavell: when i went When I was at a wedding last week, do you remember we had a discussion saying, i don'tmit I don't know the name of a single Tame Impala song?

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Ricky: Yeah, but there's plenty of like artists. I don't know the names of their songs.

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Gareth Flavell: Right, and then um when and then when i i I sent you a video and went, who's this? That was the joke, and you went, no, that's taken thats Dracula by Tame Impala. I'm like, but you've missed that's not we had a conversation with not knowing the names.

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Ricky: Uh…

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Gareth Flavell: You just ruined it.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Gareth Flavell: You notice I didn't respond? I was angry.

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Ricky: Yeah, you don't respond to a lot of my stuff, to be fair.

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Gareth Flavell: yes Oh, you had you had a mad request yesterday. i was like, I'm never doing that.

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Ricky: What was… no No, I did not. Did I really?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, you sent a mental one. but well

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Ricky: ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember

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Gareth Flavell: Any chance you can ask, I can't read it out, but you can see it knock up and I'm like, Charlie doesn't even pick up the phone to me anymore, so let alone, no, he's like,

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Ricky: LAUGHTER

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Ricky: Does he know? He'll be listening to this as well.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, no, I mean, the our relationship's done pretty much.

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Ricky: ah poor Charlie.

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Gareth Flavell: he yeah he's he's got He's got a baby and he's got a really important job at Getty. And thumbnails for me are like probably, in terms of priority, I probably don't, they they don't exist on his list.

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Gareth Flavell: So much so that I'll ask him for a thumbnail and it just won't come. So you're in response to your question, no.

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Ricky: Oh, God.

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Gareth Flavell: You make a thumbnail.

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Ricky: Yeah. Okay. Right. Okay. I'll do that then.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, you do it.

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Ricky: what I was going to say, I did email you.

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Gareth Flavell: Charlie, if you are listening, I love you and I'm so i'm so happy for you.

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Gareth Flavell: God.

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Ricky: We both are. I emailed you with a couple of, um, audio files.

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Gareth Flavell: Yep, I've sorted that.

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Ricky: Yeah. Oh, fucking hell. Let's go.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, but well, it's…

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Ricky: We don't need it yet. Don't need it yet. I'm just,

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Gareth Flavell: Okay, but when when you when you make them into MP3s, it's just so easy for me.

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Ricky: I did do that though.

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Gareth Flavell: I know. That's what I'm saying.

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Ricky: Oh, okay. Okay. Good.

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Gareth Flavell: Because if I was going, fucking, I opened them up and bet these are still M4As and i was like, they weren't. I was like…

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Ricky: Hey, hey.

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Gareth Flavell: So you go and say, Apollo, that's the…

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Ricky: and Yeah, going Tame Impala, but I just wanted to…

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Gareth Flavell: house I don't feel of anything about that, really.

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Ricky: Right, that's fine. But what I'm about to say, might you might kind of… Actually, i don't know. I'll just say it. But I've been really looking forward to this gig. Not only because Tame Impala was one of the last remaining kind of ah acts that I wanted to go and see, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: But… it's It's in Birmingham, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Ugh. Oh, all right, okay, okay.

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Ricky: which is which No, no, no, it's fine. No, it's good. It's good. um it's It's a day out for the lady and I.

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Gareth Flavell: Okay, yeah like she likes Tame Impala as well.

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Ricky: Lights, Tame and Filer as well.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: And it's a day out in Birmingham. And it's kind of like, do you know what?

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Gareth Flavell: Okay.

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Ricky: I mean, fred Fred again was different because like traveling back from Muswell Hill, it's it's ah it's hard getting back.

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Gareth Flavell: On the shovel. was it easy It's easy. from the Birmingham is easy.

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Ricky: yeah Yeah, it is easy. But I was like, do you know what?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Right next door, isn't it?

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Ricky: she's Fuck you. Shall we just get a hotel for the night?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

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Ricky: Right. Go to the gig, have a few jars, go to Broad Street, have a few more drinks, go to our hotel, you know, and then come back in the morning.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. They're rumpy bumpy.

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Ricky: Right. Okay. Rumpy pumpy. Right. this You know, this is what, so in my mind leading up to this,

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

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Ricky: get to Birmingham midday, check into the hotel at three o'clock, have a little mooch about around Birmingham, go out for some, like go out for a bit of, bit of a bite, bit dinner before the gig, not massive, just some, so some nibbles, the beers flow in, you're getting excited for the gig.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: You don't have to rush everything. You know, great, wonderful gig. You come out, you go to a little wine bar or something like that. And you, you have a few more drinks, maybe get a takeaway. I don't know.

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Gareth Flavell: Then the Rumpy Pumpy.

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Ricky: Then you go up to the hotel room and yeah, the the the drunk sex is great. Absolutely fantastic.

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Gareth Flavell: Call it

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Ricky: Rumpy pumpy, right? actually ah Bit of rumpy pumpy, right? And then wake up in the morning and you've got your breakfast.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: Everyone loves the breakfast in the hotel in the morning.

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Gareth Flavell: 100%.

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Ricky: Let me go.

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Gareth Flavell: Especially a buffet.

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Ricky: It's like kind 24 hour. Yeah, it is,

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Gareth Flavell: It sounds like a dream. right Thought I'm missing the point.

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Ricky: As we're leading it up to D-Day, do you think we need to get a hotel? Because London is the same distance as Birmingham, right? Might as well just get a train, like an hour from London, an hour of Birmingham. It's the same.

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Ricky: So might as well not do did the hotel, save some money. ah um Right, okay. Okay. Yeah, that's cool. All right. we We'll get a train the way home. It's going to be… it's good Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Thought I'm missing the point, but yeah, okay.

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Ricky: It's going to… um um Plus, we'll be we'll be hanging on the way back on the train and drunk and loud people. Bright lights. All that. light It's fine. Okay, we'll do that. Should we go a bit later?

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Ricky: Because then, like, we won't have to dump the girls and my mum. like so so now with we're we're looking at trains that get into Birmingham New Street…

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Gareth Flavell: Oh.

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Ricky: half hour, 45 minutes before Tame Impala come on. So it's gone from let's get there at lunchtime and book in and, you know, lay down on the hotel, jump around on the hotel bed. That's always fun. To going by the skin of our teeth. If the train delays, we're fucked, right?

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Ricky: To go and see a band that I wanted to see for years.

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Gareth Flavell: How

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Ricky: And now it's just like nip in and nip out. Get in, get out. live by the fraught tension of, am i am I going to see them? Is the train going to be delayed? How do I get back? All of that stuff.

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Ricky: So it's gone from really looking forward to something that's in the future, and it's going to be a great day, simmered down to just a ah kind of a wee kernel of fun.

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Gareth Flavell: or how have you meant have you explained to this? have you you

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Ricky: No, no, haven't. i'm I'm doing this now, and then you're going to say, as my best mate Rick, what you need to do is you need to um take the the emotion out of it, or if you want to take it,

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Gareth Flavell: Me. Take me. Take me.

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Ricky: you need to, I don't know, tell me. Well, like I know for me, my mother's guilt is, I'm not saying fathers don't get it, but like a mother's guilt of leaving their children and being away from the home and stuff like that, that, you know,

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Gareth Flavell: i i I understand your frustration. I do.

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Gareth Flavell: Not when they're 12 or 14.

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Ricky: I know.

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Gareth Flavell: You don't really want to be around them at age.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: No. Less. More time away, if anything.

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Ricky: yeah I mean, it's been very aggy in this household this week.

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Gareth Flavell: um

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Gareth Flavell: How's it?

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: aye

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Ricky: So i mean a lot ah what why don't we just stay away for the night? Imagine the buffet in the morning, breakfast buffet.

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Gareth Flavell: Does she like Tame Impala?

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Does she like Tame Impala?

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Ricky: Yeah. And plus, even if she didn't, it's like you're going out for the night to go and watch a live act, have a beer. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: I think, yeah, I mean, like the pro did you so explicitly explain that you were looking forward to the whole day or or not?

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Ricky: ah well I mean, personally, do you think I need to explain that?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: I mean,

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Ricky: If we're going out to a gig in Birmingham, an hour away, even if we're going to a gig in London and you're going in with your partner, right.

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Gareth Flavell: hotel, yeah, you you need to plan the hotel. but Yeah, you need to go, yeah spending your time away, you would need to at least talk about it, yeah.

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Ricky: Right, okay.

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Gareth Flavell: You didn't.

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Ricky: No, no, well i if we're staying away,

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Gareth Flavell: yeah You spoke about the hotel.

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Ricky: yes. yes

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I think… I think I could… Something could happen with Oli. think that could happen… Something like that could happen with Oli. Especially leaving later.

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Gareth Flavell: What are you going to do

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Ricky: Well, I would do what I always do. and Happy wife, happy life.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, that true. That is true. i

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Ricky: ah And all all of the rest is fine. But you know where you kind of have something that you've built up to that you're looking forward to and then it just ends up not being that thing.

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Gareth Flavell: I think that's a part of a man.

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Ricky: And it it does happen. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I think i i think people feel, and not that's not happening here. It's like you don't really get presents for Christmas. Everyone else does. And your birthday is sort of less celebrated, I think, than then everyone, or the than the female.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: It's almost like a bit feminine to enjoy your birthday in a weird way. But I don't mind. like when When I wake up on Christmas morning, i don't i can't I don't care if I've got presents or not.

00:08:54.57
Gareth Flavell: It doesn't matter. I like to be that someone thought of me, but i'm not bold I don't want the same amount of presents as the kids.

00:08:58.04
Ricky: Yeah.

00:09:02.39
Ricky: Yeah. Or even more expensive.

00:09:04.25
Gareth Flavell: Or anything, really.

00:09:04.95
Ricky: Yeah, okay.

00:09:05.05
Gareth Flavell: a Socks and pants would be absolutely fine.

00:09:08.15
Ricky: Oh, mate, if I got socks and pants just for Christmas, ah i like I would be…

00:09:12.03
Gareth Flavell: I can't think of anything I'd want. I quite want a PlayStation 5 because I have to like to give mine to my son, obviously, because how am I to have a PlayStation 5 he's got nothing like that?

00:09:16.57
Ricky: okay.

00:09:22.90
Ricky: Was it a begrudging? like Okay.

00:09:25.11
Gareth Flavell: No, I just gave it to him. barely even looked at it, to be honest.

00:09:28.47
Ricky: Right, fair enough.

00:09:28.45
Gareth Flavell: But he's his computer died and it was his birthday and we bought him a Nutelli. Anyway, that was why. you want to explain something mental? Yeah, so you're just going have to have just go and come back, I guess.

00:09:39.51
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. that I mean, and and that's all fine.

00:09:41.82
Gareth Flavell: You can leave earlier. Leave earlier. Just so those sort the kids out.

00:09:44.72
Ricky: think, yeah, yeah, I think, I think, yeah.

00:09:45.46
Gareth Flavell: And we are going to leave earlier. I want to enjoy and relax. you you Yeah, you…

00:09:47.61
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I think, yeah.

00:09:48.86
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:09:49.89
Ricky: Because, you know, I often do the Tottenham travel plan. ah where I kind of like the military operation of where I get to places when i'm that's like an hour away because of the trains.

00:10:00.34
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:10:01.88
Ricky: Well, I've done one for for this gig. So i will explain to her that we will have to get there early because everything is quite a close shave and we don't want to miss anything really.

00:10:13.11
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I just want relax.

00:10:13.22
Ricky: If we're going all that way, then.

00:10:16.77
Gareth Flavell: I want to leave a bit earlier. So can we just sort the kids out? I think you're within the rights there. I think it should be fine. Something weird. This sounds quite boring, but just want to… We were going to my mate's wedding in Essex last week.

00:10:29.43
Gareth Flavell: And…

00:10:30.29
Ricky: Okay, yeah.

00:10:30.71
Gareth Flavell: um

00:10:33.43
Gareth Flavell: I got a job in London on the Friday that we were supposed to be going to the hotel because the wedding was on Saturday and we live far a long way away from Essex. And i was like, right, I can't turn this job down.

00:10:44.86
Gareth Flavell: um And we're still going to the wedding. So what you're going to do is you're going to drive to me. You're going to pick me up in London and then we and then we're going to go to Essex.

00:10:54.97
Ricky: ah okay yeah

00:10:55.29
Gareth Flavell: london London is massive. And I looked at and I was just like, right, where's… Where can we do this? What stations near the M25? Faden Bois.

00:11:04.02
Ricky: Yeah,

00:11:06.74
Gareth Flavell: Or Faden Boys. don't know how you say it.

00:11:08.02
Ricky: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:11:09.29
Gareth Flavell: What is it?

00:11:10.01
Ricky: No way.

00:11:10.87
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, Faden Boys. um I left my… She left work. Dropped the kids off.

00:11:19.06
Ricky: yeah

00:11:19.47
Gareth Flavell: She left work.

00:11:20.38
Ricky: yeah

00:11:20.73
Gareth Flavell: I left my job.

00:11:22.33
Ricky: yeah

00:11:22.84
Gareth Flavell: And we arrived at Faden Boys exactly the same time. As I was walking out, she pulled into the into the car park.

00:11:29.94
Ricky: no way

00:11:30.52
Gareth Flavell: It was like a military operation that works out perfectly. i thought was sitting there for about an hour. was going to have find a pub. It was like, Bosh, get in, go. was brilliant. It just works. Stuff like that never works.

00:11:40.97
Ricky: Don't you just love it when a plan comes together?

00:11:42.74
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, indeed. I want play jingle.

00:11:44.95
Ricky: on then.

00:12:11.10
Ricky: Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous, it's episode 148. Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates, one main topic, we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature, something only you know, and everything remains anonymous, always, so sit back, relax and enjoy the pod.

00:12:28.38
Ricky: That, um, that how we record now, obviously where the theme team plays and I can hear it and then I have to come in. It always makes me feel like I'm a ah radio presenter or something like that.

00:12:38.76
Ricky: Cause I have to get the timing right. it makes It makes me feel like important or something.

00:12:40.58
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:12:42.61
Ricky: Hmm.

00:12:42.58
Gareth Flavell: It makes me just feel I want to take pills every time I hear it. I want to take pills. I want to go out and take pills.

00:12:48.28
Ricky: ah

00:12:49.47
Gareth Flavell: um i got I got a message, mate. You know, you talk like Tame Impala. You love Tame Impala.

00:12:53.72
Ricky: m

00:12:54.62
Gareth Flavell: I got a message from the one of the band members of Mount Kimby who, because they were watching The Overlap and I was on i posted a picture of myself hosting on The Overlap.

00:13:00.71
Ricky: Wha- wha- why? How?

00:13:08.38
Ricky: Yeah.

00:13:09.27
Gareth Flavell: um for those everyone's gonna know what it is um and they liked it and then they followed me mount kimby followed me the band's um instagram account and i was like i fucking love mount kimby and then i posted a picture and i and i i posted a picture of ah with the sound with with blue blue train lines

00:13:31.67
Ricky: One of their tracks, yeah.

00:13:34.26
Gareth Flavell: and the And now I was thinking, ah, because I knew, that I thought they followed me, maybe they'll see this. And then they reached out.

00:13:40.89
Ricky: What did they say? they Tottenham fans or just…

00:13:43.67
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, the one one is, he said,

00:13:47.49
Ricky: I like your little beard.

00:13:49.72
Gareth Flavell: it wasn't but weird like that.

00:13:51.06
Ricky: okay.

00:13:53.24
Gareth Flavell: He says, hi fly off Kai from Mount Kimby here. Unreal to get an early shout on the pod, because i mentioned it on the pod. Season ticket holder and long time listener of Fighting Cock.

00:14:01.26
Ricky: Fuck. Yeah, good. Yeah, that's good,

00:14:02.39
Gareth Flavell: Even listen to and enjoy the lab. So parasocialness is mutual. So I said, I've got this parasocial relationship. But I was like, this is so cool.

00:14:09.74
Ricky: yeah.

00:14:09.71
Gareth Flavell: Really pleased that you've heard the music. And I said, hello, mate. Such a lovely thing to read. In my most hedonistic years, Mount Kimberley were there with me. The last few days, I've been listening to the Sunset Violet.

00:14:22.81
Gareth Flavell: I'm sort playing up to it now.

00:14:23.67
Ricky: yeah good yeah that's good yeah

00:14:24.02
Gareth Flavell: Listen to the album, mate. Sunset Violet. It's really good. Thank you for the music and stay in touch. We'll have a beer one day over Spurs.

00:14:32.18
Ricky: Hey, that's cool.

00:14:34.17
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. And, and what else happened? James Madison liked my tweet. No, no, liked my picture.

00:14:42.23
Ricky: Really?

00:14:42.97
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:14:44.18
Ricky: ah You've got it all going on.

00:14:44.22
Gareth Flavell: I mean, i know it's ridiculous because I'm like 44 and I shouldn't be sort of, you know, enamored by that. But am.

00:14:52.95
Ricky: um I don't understand why you wouldn't want to share those feelings. That's cool, man. know what mean? Right, we've got a ah lot to crack on with today.

00:15:07.13
Gareth Flavell: What are we talking about?

00:15:08.15
Ricky: Right, now we'll get to that bit, right?

00:15:09.66
Gareth Flavell: all right.

00:15:09.91
Ricky: First of all,

00:15:10.87
Gareth Flavell: Okay.

00:15:11.42
Ricky: ah the you know the new feature of… dont Don't listen, right?

00:15:17.44
Gareth Flavell: Don't listen.

00:15:17.76
Ricky: ah Don't listen.

00:15:18.09
Gareth Flavell: love it.

00:15:18.48
Ricky: this a fucking but This is a mental feature.

00:15:18.89
Gareth Flavell: love… What is it for people that might have…

00:15:21.40
Ricky: ah so So don't listen is a feature devised by Flav whereby you send in an audio, ah yeah a voice note to us via email, wherever it is.

00:15:35.19
Ricky: And we don't listen to it. We just play it. And then we riff off whatever is being played to us.

00:15:40.98
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:15:42.60
Ricky: Last week, someone sent one in and Flav and I had no idea what was being said.

00:15:48.82
Gareth Flavell: ah Yeah, it was mental.

00:15:49.78
Ricky: It was mental, right? And they've written in, Hey Rick, so I knew that reaction was coming.

00:15:56.96
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:15:57.30
Ricky: I'll try and put some context around it. First of all, that's an Irish accent you're listening to, which says, all right. You hear United got Ronaldo back.

00:16:08.05
Ricky: United! It was a voice note sent around back when Man United re-signed Ronaldo.

00:16:11.03
Gareth Flavell: but

00:16:15.38
Ricky: It was one of the funniest things that we had ever heard. The more you play it, the funnier it gets.

00:16:21.98
Gareth Flavell: It was weird.

00:16:23.16
Ricky: It was. um And as well, it it's but it was one of the funniest things we have ever heard.

00:16:24.31
Gareth Flavell: i was

00:16:29.92
Ricky: Who's we?

00:16:30.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, just more context, if anything.

00:16:32.82
Ricky: Yeah.

00:16:33.54
Gareth Flavell: Let me see if I can find it.

00:16:35.45
Ricky: Okay. um so Yeah, and they like obviously I had no idea.

00:16:36.34
Gareth Flavell: I'll play again.

00:16:40.05
Ricky: I thought I was quite good with like my meme culture and like what's going on, but I hadn't heard of it.

00:16:44.09
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:16:45.41
Ricky: There was one person in our comment on Spotify that knew exactly what this was. So fair fucks to you, to the lad S that got that.

00:16:52.34
Gareth Flavell: Really?

00:16:57.98
Ricky: Well done.

00:16:58.15
Gareth Flavell: I've got it. I've got it.

00:16:59.11
Ricky: I'll go and play it, play it.

00:17:01.07
Gareth Flavell: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

00:17:02.13
Ricky: Okay.

00:17:03.00
Gareth Flavell: Hold on.

00:17:03.82
Ricky: Hold on.

00:17:05.02
Gareth Flavell: Hold on.

00:17:05.86
Ricky: That's what say to Mrs.

00:17:06.97
Gareth Flavell: Fucking hell. Why isn't that working? All right. Give me give me and let two minutes, Rick.

00:17:10.42
Ricky: Right. Okay. ah

00:17:11.45
Gareth Flavell: Two minutes, Turkish. right.

00:17:13.18
Ricky: And then we have another voice note that has come in today, ah which is part of which is part of that.

00:17:19.70
Gareth Flavell: Right, now I've got it.

00:17:21.36
Ricky: Okay. This is last week.

00:17:21.72
Gareth Flavell: Right, so this is the one from last week.

00:17:22.84
Ricky: this is last week

00:17:23.96
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:17:38.91
Gareth Flavell: I've never heard that before.

00:17:39.96
Ricky: No, I haven't. No, that's it that's a new one. That's a new one.

00:17:49.97
Gareth Flavell: Alright,

00:17:50.10
Ricky: ah That's good. Right. Okay. And um I have no idea what's going to come next.

00:17:56.28
Gareth Flavell: Oh, we can do it now, are we?

00:17:56.49
Ricky: It's what we might as well. So this is that this is the new ah don't listen audio that we received this week.

00:18:08.98
Gareth Flavell: Oh, for fuck's sake.

00:18:09.40
Ricky: Oh, for fuck's sake.

00:18:11.77
Gareth Flavell: but

00:18:12.09
Ricky: so Oh my God.

00:18:14.46
Gareth Flavell: You are fucking disgusting.

00:18:17.62
Ricky: Fucking hell.

00:18:18.90
Gareth Flavell: i can I know who did that.

00:18:21.24
Ricky: Really?

00:18:22.33
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, ah without question that was Jack. Without question.

00:18:25.75
Ricky: ah do you know what? i can't i can't I can't confirm or deny because it's a lads anonymous.

00:18:29.69
Gareth Flavell: it was It was him. It was him. It was him.

00:18:31.74
Ricky: It's lad it's lads anonymous, but that was fucking foul. Whoever did that.

00:18:39.29
Gareth Flavell: You do know, you fucking pig.

00:18:39.64
Ricky: But yeah, yeah, that that is.

00:18:41.88
Gareth Flavell: It's exactly the kind of thing he would do. Yeah.

00:18:45.73
Ricky: Yeah, it is. I mean this is this is a on point for lads. So thank you for that. ah Actually, do you know what? I'm not going to say thank you for that. That was absolutely grim.

00:18:53.22
Gareth Flavell: It's disgusting.

00:18:54.65
Ricky: If you want to hear your audio played out and we don't know what it is, it could be absolutely anything. Send it in.

00:19:01.66
Gareth Flavell: Was that the only one sent in?

00:19:02.99
Ricky: That's the end. Well, no, we've got we've got more, but I'm not going to fucking do them all in one hit.

00:19:04.96
Gareth Flavell: All right. Fine. Send them in. Don't listen. Don't listen. Whatever you got.

00:19:10.50
Ricky: Yeah.

00:19:10.96
Gareth Flavell: It doesn't have to be mental. It could be anything. This is your chance.

00:19:13.66
Ricky: Yeah, yeah. Just feature on the pod. Send it in to ladsanonpod at gmail.com.

00:19:16.51
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:19:20.50
Ricky: But just make sure you mention it in the title on the or on the file.

00:19:25.20
Gareth Flavell: All right, next time.

00:19:26.06
Ricky: Don't listen. And I won't. That's it. And it will just go straight out. I've sent you another. ah So last week, the topic was ah male friendships and the rules and bro codes and stuff like that.

00:19:34.59
Gareth Flavell: Okay. All right.

00:19:39.26
Ricky: Somebody has sent us in a voice note. about their rare situation. You're going hear it now.

00:20:31.03
Gareth Flavell: I mean, the blokes broke the brocode there in a big way, didn't he?

00:20:33.30
Ricky: Yeah, yeah. yeah

00:20:35.74
Gareth Flavell: What a scumbag.

00:20:36.02
Ricky: Who's done that?

00:20:37.05
Gareth Flavell: What a scumbag.

00:20:39.07
Ricky: can't, yeah, that's fucking, that is, that's pure outers, man.

00:20:40.70
Gareth Flavell: That ain't your mate.

00:20:43.67
Gareth Flavell: i would I would really think about eliminating that person from my social circle.

00:20:49.17
Ricky: Eliminating them forever.

00:20:50.33
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I mean, I know sometimes you can't and you don't want to, um but fuck, if he could do it to him, he could do it to you. Yeah.

00:20:58.23
Ricky: um oh God, I didn't even think of that. That is fucking, yeah, that is, that's naughty. I mean, I mean, it's obviously more than naughty, but it's like, you know, bro codes of not mentioning what other people get up to.

00:21:12.77
Ricky: you But then, like, you're all mates. You can't, you can't lie about that. And especially if that if there's conversation and banter and stuff like that happening, you are, the other person who this is happening on are going to look like a total cunt because they don't know that that geezer

00:21:17.24
Gareth Flavell: did it

00:21:30.61
Ricky: serving up his missus, which is, mean, I think I, would you grass in that situation? i i don't know if I could grass.

00:21:37.43
Gareth Flavell: No, I don't think I would.

00:21:39.09
Ricky: I don't know if I could grass, but I would be like,

00:21:42.03
Gareth Flavell: I'd be like, mate, you and you are a fucking scumbag.

00:21:44.85
Ricky: ah you take to the person direct.

00:21:45.14
Gareth Flavell: lee Yeah. Yeah, you're shagging your mate's missus.

00:21:46.85
Ricky: Right. Okay. Yeah.

00:21:48.85
Gareth Flavell: Fuck off.

00:21:48.98
Ricky: Right.

00:21:49.53
Gareth Flavell: Get away from me.

00:21:49.72
Ricky: Yeah.

00:21:50.41
Gareth Flavell: That's what i'll be like.

00:21:51.58
Ricky: Yeah.

00:21:51.61
Gareth Flavell: Never call me. Never call me.

00:21:53.62
Ricky: Right. Okay. Good.

00:21:54.94
Gareth Flavell: o

00:21:55.47
Ricky: That's good advice. that say Yeah, it's good. um

00:21:57.34
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:21:58.55
Ricky: Before we move on to today's topic, a quick shout out to the gentleman who will be listening, who sent me, um he heard us talking about chili. Did you ever get to the bottom of your jalapeno pizza, by the way?

00:22:12.19
Ricky: Why it was so hot.

00:22:12.25
Gareth Flavell: No, i was just, I might go back and have another one.

00:22:14.94
Ricky: Right. Okay. You need to do that.

00:22:15.77
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:22:16.50
Ricky: thank

00:22:16.44
Gareth Flavell: i didn't get back to it. No, don't understand.

00:22:20.41
Ricky: And then, um, I was speaking about Tabasco sauce. The original Tabasco sauce is no longer no good for me.

00:22:24.82
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:22:27.85
Ricky: And I have habanero Tabasco sauce.

00:22:28.15
Gareth Flavell: You need

00:22:30.17
Ricky: and This gentleman said, I have one called Tabasco scorpion sauce. I think it's called.

00:22:36.31
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:22:37.27
Ricky: I have an unopened one at home with a plastic seal on it. you want me to send it to you? Yeah.

00:22:43.93
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:22:44.09
Ricky: Free chili sauce. Why not?

00:22:45.88
Gareth Flavell: Have you had some?

00:22:46.71
Ricky: Yeah, have.

00:22:47.90
Gareth Flavell: Oh, what's that?

00:22:49.34
Ricky: Yeah, it's it it's a bit it's a bit lively. it is a bit lively.

00:22:51.51
Gareth Flavell: Do some now. Do some now.

00:22:52.66
Ricky: No,

00:22:55.64
Gareth Flavell: Would you not be able to talk if…

00:22:57.50
Ricky: no no, no, I would be. i would be able to talk. It's fine. But thank you very much to the person who sent that. That was a very lovely, kind gesture. And I did have it on my spag boulder in the week.

00:23:08.02
Ricky: So thank you very much. It's getting… it' getting a

00:23:10.23
Gareth Flavell: Did you put it on the reddit?

00:23:11.61
Ricky: Yeah, fucking that. Yeah, doused it. When I've done the first like little knockout of it, it's so only supposed to like drip, but like loads shot out.

00:23:18.36
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, you're like, oh no.

00:23:18.53
Ricky: And I knew was going to be like ah a Russian roulette of a bite that I was going to get a scorpions. And I did. So thanks for that. And last thank you to everyone on Patreon. I put a video out that I was testing the um I keep calling it GoPro because it's easier to say that, but it's that actually DJI camera. Doesn't matter. But I was doing different angles of filming in my car from when I do fish with Rick. um And I posted it on Patreon as free content to say, to get people's feedback. There's been fucking loads about which angle is best. So thank you to everyone that answered. And by the way, if you've not signed up to patron, you can do it for free and you can comment like everyone else did. patron.com slash lads, a non pod. So thank you for all the feedback with that video.

00:24:07.90
Ricky: Do you know what the topic for today is right?

00:24:10.76
Gareth Flavell: can't remember.

00:24:12.10
Ricky: Okay. So you've done your homework of your five serial killers.

00:24:16.79
Gareth Flavell: Oh, yeah, no, I haven't.

00:24:17.34
Ricky: ah ah It's fine.

00:24:19.67
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:24:20.70
Ricky: It's fine. um

00:24:22.36
Gareth Flavell: ah My favourite one's Dennis Nilsson. He's good.

00:24:24.82
Ricky: Right, okay. Well, it it it won't um it won't surprise you that he is in the rankings today.

00:24:31.22
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:24:32.15
Ricky: course he is. Of course he is. Now, before we get into this, right, serial killer, the definition, a serial killer is typically defined as an individual who murders three or more people over a period of more than a month,

00:24:47.51
Ricky: with a cooling off period between each event. These murders are usually separate events driven by psychological motives such as thrill-seeking anger or a need for power and control. I quite like the bit that a cooling off period. Not a serial killer if there isn't a cooling off period.

00:25:07.10
Ricky: ah Just, you know, to gather your thoughts about what you did. Go again, because you enjoyed it.

00:25:11.67
Gareth Flavell: Why haven't we got one at the moment?

00:25:14.30
Ricky: Well, I mean, that that we I do answer that ah later on in the pod.

00:25:17.90
Gareth Flavell: All right.

00:25:19.45
Ricky: I mean, I don't answer, but we will discuss it. But I do need to, I have to chat to you about some ground rules here.

00:25:28.00
Gareth Flavell: Okay.

00:25:28.34
Ricky: Because um I know this is serious content, right? um We need to do it properly and we need to have respect for it. Does… the timeline matter to you when it was committed.

00:25:41.69
Ricky: What I'm talking about is Victorian era England or modern day.

00:25:46.04
Gareth Flavell: ah Yeah, it's got me one day to interest me, really. Like,

00:25:50.33
Ricky: Right. Okay. Right. Okay. I see. Yeah.

00:25:52.82
Gareth Flavell: jack Jack Ripper is it's just too long ago and like I don't even know if it actually happened.

00:25:59.82
Ricky: Right.

00:25:59.91
Gareth Flavell: I know people say it happened but could just made it up.

00:26:01.21
Ricky: Yeah. Right. Okay. So the waiting is on modern day. Right.

00:26:06.36
Gareth Flavell: Up for me. Yeah, if I'm rank the ranking if i'm ranking them, yeah.

00:26:07.13
Ricky: Right. Sure. Okay, that no, that's this good to know. i know

00:26:11.62
Gareth Flavell: I'd even go like as far back as like the 70s is a bit. I want

00:26:15.32
Ricky: ah Okay, no, no, you've got to say 60s.

00:26:18.56
Gareth Flavell: 60s. Why?

00:26:19.10
Ricky: Because everything, anything that happens, 60 plus matters in life, anything.

00:26:19.16
Gareth Flavell: Why?

00:26:25.10
Ricky: Respectfully, you know, Beatles, Tottenham winning trophies. um What about amount of dead bodies?

00:26:39.83
Gareth Flavell: If it's too much, less interesting. Like Shipman, 200 payments, 200 patients, killed. And he was just sort of, was he finishing off oldies?

00:26:51.61
Ricky: Well, I mean, that's 200, though.

00:26:52.76
Gareth Flavell: All right. I know, but he's not he's got to be…

00:26:55.37
Ricky: Oddie count is fucking that mad.

00:26:56.80
Gareth Flavell: He didn't stab anyone, did he? That's the thing. he didn't like

00:27:00.28
Ricky: Well, the syringe, maybe.

00:27:00.25
Gareth Flavell: He didn't… in ah i know i know i know that Shipman is like the guy.

00:27:03.13
Ricky: okay, no, no.

00:27:07.51
Gareth Flavell: you know He's done the most. But it's almost like he was doing him… ah don't know. I just felt like… If if we're thinking of serial killer, you're thinking of like violent death.

00:27:13.46
Ricky: Public service or something. Right, okay. Okay. Right, okay. And um what about, so if we're talking about body counts, what about alleged the conviction?

00:27:28.31
Ricky: We've got…

00:27:28.36
Gareth Flavell: Alleged is fine because you know you've got them.

00:27:28.46
Ricky: a come Yeah, and alleged, I think we can assume that they fucking did it.

00:27:30.34
Gareth Flavell: He's got them on there.

00:27:34.11
Ricky: Let's let's not be let's not beat around the bushes.

00:27:36.12
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:27:36.55
Ricky: Let's not be silly about this, right? And the waiting is, well, how gruesome. What about if it's like a gun to the back of the head in comparison to…

00:27:44.31
Gareth Flavell: No, guns. It's got be knives. Yeah.

00:27:46.44
Ricky: Knives. Oh, right. Knives. Yeah, knives are…

00:27:48.62
Gareth Flavell: Like, are we talking about UK or are we going into the US?

00:27:49.40
Ricky: Yeah, they're pretty certain, eh?

00:27:53.40
Ricky: British. British. No, I'm not fucking American.

00:27:55.26
Gareth Flavell: Because ours are shit compared to theirs.

00:27:55.97
Ricky: Oh, well, you just… You wait.

00:28:00.24
Gareth Flavell: Alright.

00:28:00.38
Ricky: Just you wait. And then, ah finally, the… um

00:28:07.06
Ricky: Kind of a… If it's sex, kidnapping, children…

00:28:12.47
Gareth Flavell: and There's always sex involved isn't there juotypically but typically but yeah much worse of your child obviously.

00:28:14.17
Ricky: the Yeah. Does it make it worse if it's child? Right. Okay. What about child and sex?

00:28:22.50
Gareth Flavell: Of course that's like the worst of both of of everything.

00:28:24.60
Ricky: Right.

00:28:24.56
Gareth Flavell: okay.

00:28:24.88
Ricky: Okay. I just need to understand the weight in, right?

00:28:27.29
Gareth Flavell: okay okay

00:28:28.06
Ricky: Okay. And do they get, I'm not going to say extra points because, you know, we're not actually scoring, but if there was a nickname, you know, the Yorkshire Ripper,

00:28:31.04
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:28:41.62
Ricky: Something like that. but Does that that hold any weight in the conversation?

00:28:47.00
Gareth Flavell: I think so. I would imagine. I mean, in some sort of nickname. and ah Sometimes I find it really confusing, like nicknames and and stuff.

00:28:57.40
Gareth Flavell: Like, she was like, what's her name?

00:28:59.06
Ricky: Yeah.

00:29:00.46
Gareth Flavell: What's her name? Foxy Noxy.

00:29:03.22
Ricky: okay

00:29:04.22
Gareth Flavell: Like, she they thought they murdered Meredith Kutcher.

00:29:08.12
Ricky: yeah

00:29:09.56
Gareth Flavell: But the paper's called her Foxy Noxy. And I know that's kind of something that she referred to herself, I think. And they ran with it. But why run with it? It's weird. I always thought that was really weird. Like she's talking about murdering someone and you've given her like a playful name.

00:29:22.16
Gareth Flavell: I've

00:29:23.00
Ricky: Yeah, i

00:29:25.40
Gareth Flavell: always struggled with that.

00:29:26.42
Ricky: Yeah, that was weird. That was very weird.

00:29:28.82
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:29:29.82
Ricky: um We will… I mean, we'll do we'll do an American one after. oh Actually, I do want to get… like Do you think… um

00:29:39.38
Ricky: American serial, like murderers, and American serial killers are glamorized more than that.

00:29:42.33
Gareth Flavell: better yeah yeah

00:29:44.20
Ricky: like Like Britain, it's like fucking cold November rainy day and you've juked them up at a bus stop. And America, it's like they've got shades on, they're sitting in the car the coffee and…

00:29:56.98
Gareth Flavell: yeah you're like Dahmer's my favourite Jeffrey Dahmer yeah Bundy was like he had loads didn't and didn't women loved him as well didn't they

00:29:58.55
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. No, Bundy. Bundy is fucking…

00:30:06.68
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:30:09.33
Gareth Flavell: I'd known… ah and And wasn't he known, Ted Bundy? He was like a public personality.

00:30:16.14
Ricky: don't know, actually.

00:30:18.79
Gareth Flavell: I think he was…

00:30:18.93
Ricky: I don't know. He's fucking, yeah. ted but yeah I think for, like, I've got hold myself here. But Ted Bundy is, like, for me, the he's he's the one. He's the one. Do you think, like, our kind of, like, Netflix generation of this kind of dramatised documentary, Ed Gein, all these other bods,

00:30:44.50
Ricky: That it's kind of um trivialized it entertainment rather than fucking…

00:30:49.59
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's fascinating, right? Obviously, death and people that take people's lives has always been like, you can't help but not but but but but be interested and and by it.

00:31:00.47
Ricky: o

00:31:01.77
Gareth Flavell: And the monster series that Netflix are doing, they've done Dharma, they've done Hello, Dear Mother… What's his name? Gein.

00:31:09.84
Ricky: Ed Gein.

00:31:10.87
Gareth Flavell: um is so well put together, those those programs, that in some…

00:31:15.26
Ricky: Yeah.

00:31:17.60
Gareth Flavell: I wouldn't say glamorizes it, but you get kind of access. It is so well made and so real that you kind of get access into the way that it's almost like explains why they became what they became.

00:31:26.53
Ricky: Hmm.

00:31:35.99
Gareth Flavell: Which is fascinating, right? But Ed Gein had the really weird relationship with the mother and with sex and and ah went through lots when he was a kid. And then and it talks about the aftermath of of his killing spree when he was in hospital and how the manipulation continued, especially of women.

00:31:56.54
Gareth Flavell: And how people would message him all the time. Or women would message him. What is it with women's obsession with with with these things? Like my step-mom and my ex-girlfriend would would always talk about and want to watch things about murders.

00:32:11.67
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:14.49
Gareth Flavell: Maybe because it's so scary.

00:32:14.75
Ricky: I

00:32:15.80
Gareth Flavell: And obviously women are more vulnerable physically.

00:32:18.39
Ricky: so i think it's just quite interesting, isn't it? Trying to understand where people and why people have done it. It's like the main thing of why people fucking go down these alleys.

00:32:30.18
Ricky: Right. we've got We've got a lot of, we've got some good solid British guys to go through. Guys and girls, actually. I am going to start off with the the icon of this.

00:32:36.85
Gareth Flavell: Yep.

00:32:41.12
Ricky: the the The one who sits at the top of the chain as in time with Jack the Ripper. five victims, ah the unidentified Victorian killer who murdered five women in London in 1888. It's the, um he did that.

00:33:01.40
Ricky: He sent like clues and letters to the police. And also he had such a way with a knife that he was able to kind of cut all their organs out and display them and display their bodies in a way that was just…

00:33:21.14
Gareth Flavell: Maybe he was, are you saying he might be a doctor or a surgeon or a butcher?

00:33:24.99
Ricky: Or a butcher. Yeah. And don't you think it's mental how no one knows who it is? Those five killings happen and then, boom, stopped.

00:33:35.61
Gareth Flavell: was it So the films that been made about him suggest that he had some sort of political leaning. He might have been a political figure as well or a surgeon or someone like that. He was known publicly. that's that That was in films and stuff. I think you've seen, what was that one where Johnny Depp played a detective?

00:33:53.21
Gareth Flavell: And that was what he was alluded to in that.

00:33:55.10
Ricky: Right.

00:33:56.15
Gareth Flavell: um But, yeah, it was always prostitutes as well, wasn't it? Yeah.

00:34:01.69
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. this That's a very common theme. Poor prozies.

00:34:05.05
Gareth Flavell: They never caught him.

00:34:05.98
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:34:06.87
Gareth Flavell: I suppose it's because they're kind of seen as on the fringes of society. that they're like like they're They're less likely to be seen or publicly or be missed, perhaps.

00:34:13.88
Ricky: Yeah.

00:34:16.89
Ricky: Yeah.

00:34:17.85
Gareth Flavell: And also, they're more vulnerable and they're selling there's always just generally like a sexual element to it.

00:34:19.16
Ricky: but More vulnerable.

00:34:24.99
Gareth Flavell: And the fact that they're selling telling their bodies, maybe that's what's attractive. I don't know. That's what seems to be alluded to in my pseudo psychology I'm going for here.

00:34:32.09
Ricky: Yeah. back Back in the day, police didn't really care for prostitutes.

00:34:36.62
Gareth Flavell: prostitute in the I did, I did, I never did it in the, in the, um I went to the London dungeon and they did a big thing about Jack the Ripper then.

00:34:36.96
Ricky: Yeah. as the It was kind of their own law. But, you know… um But when we spoke before, the Victorian era wasn't really your kind of, didn't didn't whet your appetite. Jack the Ripper. I always wanted to do a Jack the Ripper tour.

00:35:01.78
Ricky: Any good?

00:35:01.72
Gareth Flavell: That was quite good when I was a kid. always found London dungeon a weird thing. Have you been?

00:35:05.56
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah, have. Yeah, yeah.

00:35:07.06
Gareth Flavell: Miserable.

00:35:07.90
Ricky: Yeah.

00:35:08.53
Gareth Flavell: Absolutely miserable in there. It's like I've got all these sort wax mannequins that move that are being tortured and stuff.

00:35:14.65
Ricky: yeah i've never i've been to london dungeon but i've never been to the actual um so london london dungeon's the actual museum yeah london bridge i've not been i've not been there you know where the you know the two is it kings that were buried there whatever and all everything else that's fucking museum yeah tourist attraction but not to the actual

00:35:14.95
Gareth Flavell: And I'm like, what's the appeal

00:35:23.25
Gareth Flavell: here? It's in London Bridge.

00:35:34.10
Gareth Flavell: what You've been into the London Dungeon tourist attraction.

00:35:39.90
Gareth Flavell: Oh, Dennis Nilsson.

00:35:42.04
Ricky: No, I'd like to do that, actually. Right, okay, so… We'll get into…

00:35:49.37
Gareth Flavell: so Why not talk about him now? what what do have to Is he number one for you?

00:35:51.85
Ricky: Because… he's He's not, no.

00:35:55.39
Gareth Flavell: ay

00:35:55.93
Ricky: He's not. ah so Let me just get these these couple of little ones out the way.

00:35:56.72
Gareth Flavell: He's number one. Well, number one for me.

00:35:59.81
Ricky: So we've got Marianne Cotton, 21 victims, Victorian era, poisoned fucking everyone, right? I don't really know that name. So she is, unfortunately, I'm going to discount her.

00:36:11.13
Ricky: Amelia Dyer. She was known as the baby farmer, believed to have killed dozens, potentially hundreds of children in her care. And we've got a more modern day.

00:36:23.66
Gareth Flavell: Dennis Nielsen.

00:36:24.66
Ricky: no No, he's coming. Don't you worry about him. ah Beverly Allit, four victims, a nurse who killed four children in her care in 1991 and later on confessed to 11 murders.

00:36:42.36
Ricky: Right. This one.

00:36:43.51
Gareth Flavell: Is.

00:36:44.21
Ricky: i know this one.

00:36:45.12
Gareth Flavell: No.

00:36:46.93
Ricky: i i Do you remember this one? So ah Joanna Dennehy.

00:36:51.13
Gareth Flavell: no

00:36:52.41
Ricky: She stabbed and killed three men, attempted to kill another two and wanted to do nine like Bonnie and Clyde. She was known as the Peterborough Ditch Murderer.

00:37:05.88
Ricky: In court, she was laughing and confessed, she saying she wanted people to see her fun. Killing is more-ish. She only did it to male victims. Wouldn't do it to any ah women or especially women with children. But she fucking just bowled about knifing people and then throwing them in ditches.

00:37:27.22
Gareth Flavell: there was There was one, was that is that in America?

00:37:30.33
Ricky: No, no, is it?

00:37:30.73
Gareth Flavell: Peterborough?

00:37:30.89
Ricky: No, so all of it. it's All of it's Britain.

00:37:33.02
Gareth Flavell: Imagine sort of bowling around Peterborough of all places and then just getting murdered.

00:37:35.73
Ricky: Yeah.

00:37:36.78
Gareth Flavell: but

00:37:37.05
Ricky: Out walking your dog. Out walking Frank. And that's it. Excuse me, mate.

00:37:40.02
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:37:40.66
Ricky: You got the time? Yeah, it's quarter bus.

00:37:41.60
Gareth Flavell: But…

00:37:42.94
Ricky: Bosh! Fuck.

00:37:43.84
Gareth Flavell: And that's…

00:37:45.80
Ricky: Why have you done that? Bosh! Another one. Did you find it funny? Right. Now we're getting into, we're starting to go into a bit more choppy waters here.

00:37:54.80
Gareth Flavell: Dennis Nilsson.

00:37:57.92
Ricky: Levi Belfield.

00:38:00.21
Gareth Flavell: Oh, I don't like that one. He killed Millie Downing, didn't he?

00:38:03.00
Ricky: Fucking excellent. Good knowledge. Good knowledge. Well done. Well done.

00:38:07.38
Gareth Flavell: I mean, it it was it was when I was in my 20s and that.

00:38:09.98
Ricky: Yeah, it was big, wasn't it?

00:38:10.65
Gareth Flavell: and are ah But wasn't a lot of the phone tapping stuff that happened in the media on and off the back of that case that they'd… Basically, these journalists that have been fucking tapping her phone to find out what happened in the run-up to her being murdered.

00:38:22.72
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:25.78
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:26.47
Gareth Flavell: Voicemails and shit like that. That is… And then that was the downfall of News of the World, which is a Sunday newspaper we had in England.

00:38:32.98
Ricky: Yeah.

00:38:33.24
Gareth Flavell: It was dismantled. And I mean, it wasn't really taken away because they just rebranded it, The Sun on Sunday. But yeah, News of the World was the Sunday version of The Sun. So and in back in the… it Well, still to this day… You have your newspapers all through the week. And on Sunday, you have a bigger version of the newspaper. So traditionally in England, the Sunday newspaper was quite important.

00:38:55.96
Gareth Flavell: And you would sit down, you would read before the advent of the internet.

00:38:59.49
Ricky: Nightmare for paper, boys.

00:39:01.14
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, it was indeed. um And the snoozer of the world was the scummiest version of all of those. It was essentially the you know tabloid newspaper in the most extreme.

00:39:07.42
Ricky: Yeah.

00:39:11.61
Gareth Flavell: And they tapped Millie Downing's phone along with many, and as it transpired, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of phone calls, phones, of celebrities, everything, to get information on a girl that had been murdered.

00:39:18.65
Ricky: Yeah.

00:39:23.08
Gareth Flavell: type what What kind of fucking rat does that?

00:39:26.39
Ricky: Yeah, that is grim.

00:39:26.46
Gareth Flavell: um So, but he was, um he I thought he just did one. Was he, he killed more?

00:39:31.19
Ricky: three three Three plus victims…

00:39:33.30
Gareth Flavell: And all girls?

00:39:34.66
Ricky: Convicted of murdering Millie Dowler, Marsha McDonnell, and Amelie De La Grange, I think her name is.

00:39:36.92
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:39:43.26
Ricky: Serial killer, sex offender, now goes by the name of Yusuf Rahman. Rahim. Yusuf Rahim, I think.

00:39:51.44
Gareth Flavell: Well, he's converted to Islam.

00:39:53.11
Ricky: He has, yeah. He, prior to that, kidnapper, murderer. He's like a bus stop traditional…

00:40:04.12
Ricky: see younger a young girl, a bus stop, bundler in the car, killer, chuck her in the woods. But that was a big one when we were growing up, wasn't it? That was like…

00:40:11.73
Gareth Flavell: there was yeah because i don't remember the other girls and I thought it was just Millie Dowling which is um

00:40:21.22
Gareth Flavell: which is yeah miss yeah terrible already no let's go you know why like Dennis Nilsson are we can we start with him or is he not

00:40:24.21
Ricky: Right, now we we are… um This is… Yeah, this is this is this is the big stuff here. Right, okay, why? No, he's not. Not yet.

00:40:34.42
Gareth Flavell: All right,

00:40:34.85
Ricky: Not yet. Yeah. Is that Ian Brady and Myra Hindley's music? By God! do do egg comes the Moors murderers.

00:40:47.80
Gareth Flavell: What was the deal with them then?

00:40:47.93
Ricky: That was…

00:40:48.96
Gareth Flavell: I remember Ian Brady and Myra Hindley were kind of the most famous until Fred i mean until fred West turned up.

00:40:54.10
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:40:57.56
Gareth Flavell: but Peter Sutcliffe, Ian Brady, those were the big ones when we were growing up.

00:40:57.86
Ricky: Okay. Okay.

00:41:02.52
Ricky: Yeah, they were. And with the Moors Roaders, so kidnapped and killed five children in the 1960s, buried them on Saddleworth Moor.

00:41:13.69
Ricky: At least four were sexually assaulted and dubbed the most evil woman in Britain, Myra Hindley was.

00:41:17.14
Gareth Flavell: Fucking hell.

00:41:22.17
Gareth Flavell: That was it, it wasn't it? There's a female that's involved.

00:41:24.44
Ricky: Yeah. ah what And the but case was so famous because the police failures, media frenzy, and the fear affecting women across the country and crimes against children. The public fucking loathe them. Now, when I say the public loathe them, obviously they're murderers, but these guys, like they were, when I was growing up, ah even though it wass like kind of like 40, 50 years later, like it was still in my head about…

00:41:52.86
Ricky: the Moors murderers and Myra Hindley, Ian Brady. So they're, you know, they've got five to their name. There's probably more, but it's children again and sexual stuff.

00:42:02.99
Gareth Flavell: What? Your children's fucking fucked, man. Like, what is wrong with them? um And that's it. It's, like, fascinating to figure out what's gone on in their brains to the point where they normalise this, where they can do it.

00:42:10.07
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:14.71
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:16.34
Gareth Flavell: um it always used to I used to live in Holloway, and um it would always sort of blow my mind. that there was Holloway is a famous female prison and any any anyone who's done anything really bad would probably spend time in Holloway prison and just always used to look at when I used drive down the um the road from Camden and just think like there's like when was a kid and that like hidden to me could be in there and others

00:42:30.30
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:35.13
Ricky: Yeah.

00:42:46.56
Ricky: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's mad, isn't it

00:42:48.89
Gareth Flavell: yeah crazy

00:42:49.46
Ricky: Would you ever want to go in one? Like maximum security prison just to…

00:42:53.66
Gareth Flavell: you Have a little look. Yeah, wouldn't mind.

00:42:54.86
Ricky: Would

00:42:55.45
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, have a little look.

00:42:57.25
Ricky: We've got one in Milton Keynes, Woodhill.

00:42:59.03
Gareth Flavell: maxim Maximum.

00:43:00.18
Ricky: Maximum, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:43:01.59
Gareth Flavell: Really?

00:43:01.69
Ricky: Cat A, yeah.

00:43:02.85
Gareth Flavell: Oh, mate. Terrible.

00:43:03.38
Ricky: Yeah, there's some been some fucking absolute wrong-uns in there.

00:43:04.41
Gareth Flavell: we ah We've got what? what we We've got Earl Stoke Prison, but it's a cat's seat.

00:43:12.57
Ricky: Oh, so that what they could climb over the fence and get you?

00:43:15.91
Gareth Flavell: I bet they're only in for like fraud and that, so I don't think they will i don't mean they could get me even if they wanted to.

00:43:20.92
Ricky: Oh, they just got run up to you and say, what's your bank details?

00:43:21.25
Gareth Flavell: I bet not.

00:43:23.90
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, it's nothing violent.

00:43:24.00
Ricky: And you tell them and then you fraud it up. Nightmare.

00:43:27.16
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:43:27.35
Ricky: ah ah ah By the way, if anyone is listening and can hear a gentle hum in the background, some dickhead has decided to cut their grass. I mean, it is 11 o'clock on a Friday.

00:43:40.02
Ricky: So, know, there are. that's good.

00:43:41.08
Gareth Flavell: I can't hear it, so they won't be able to.

00:43:41.41
Ricky: Can interest you in Lucy Letby?

00:43:43.28
Gareth Flavell: I wouldn't know.

00:43:45.98
Ricky: can i interest you in lucy letby

00:43:51.99
Gareth Flavell: Interesting.

00:43:53.11
Ricky: kind Like, where where where does she figure?

00:43:54.06
Gareth Flavell: It's quite… what isn't it like what's What's she been accused of?

00:43:56.33
Ricky: Is she a serial killer? which is Is that classed? Right. A neonatal nurse found guilty in 2023 of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six others, making her one of the most prolific child serial killers in modern British history.

00:44:17.88
Ricky: So by the kind of, know, by the letter of the law of serial killer, that would put her in this category. Seven victims, probably more.

00:44:26.54
Gareth Flavell: But she, and and yeah, but there is isn't there some controversy around how she was convicted? and and

00:44:32.15
Ricky: Yes. Yeah, I'm glad you're glad you picked up on that.

00:44:34.99
Gareth Flavell: Well, it's all over the news in the last couple of years, isn't it? so

00:44:37.72
Ricky: they still They still, I think, I believe it's still ongoing. And there was quite a recent bit of media.

00:44:40.44
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. What is it? Do you know?

00:44:43.70
Ricky: No, I don't. i think it's good.

00:44:45.48
Gareth Flavell: Luckily, I've got it here. The case became one of the most high-profile criminal trials in modern British history because the victims were newborn babies in a neonatal unit and because prosecutors argued she deliberately harmed infants in different ways while working hospital shifts.

00:45:01.15
Gareth Flavell: Since the conviction, there has been a public debate and a media discussion about the medical evidence and safety of the convictions. Some doctors, statisticians and commentators have questioned aspects of the prosecution's case, while courts have so far upheld the convictions.

00:45:15.78
Gareth Flavell: As of now, legally, she remains convicted.

00:45:19.86
Ricky: Oh, fuck. So, right.

00:45:21.27
Gareth Flavell: But I think it's an ongoing, i think it might be…

00:45:23.74
Ricky: I don't think she gets away from that. i think she I think she's pretty much nailed the cross on that one. But yeah, I mean, it's like, as in, ah for the waiting, there was no knives. There's no, you know, it's quite a, again, it's kind of like Shipman, wasn't it? Where she was like over drugging or doing stuff like that, I believe.

00:45:42.81
Ricky: Um, like injecting air into veins and stuff or something weird like that she was doing. um

00:45:49.85
Gareth Flavell: um

00:45:51.22
Ricky: which, ah you know, it's horrendous, horrendous stuff.

00:45:51.51
Gareth Flavell: Well, it was just, yeah.

00:45:56.38
Gareth Flavell: so but says It says some doctors and experts have argued that several of the babies were already extremely premature or critically ill and infections, pooralll poor care, natural complications or underlying conditions could explain similar of the deaths and collapses.

00:46:12.86
Gareth Flavell: um Critics have focused on disagreements between medical experts. Some say the prosecution experts interpreted events as deliberate harm where ah when there may not have been clear scientific proof.

00:46:26.78
Gareth Flavell: A major part of suspicion came from Lucy Letby being present present during many incidents. Some s statisticians and commentators warn that coincidence alone sometimes looks suspicious in hospitals where staff work many shifts and they argue courts should be careful about pattern evidence.

00:46:45.24
Ricky: Oh, okay. I mean, that's interesting, isn't Like, so she's the full guy because she's been working shifts and she's been present at most of these.

00:46:59.74
Ricky: I mean, that is like…

00:47:01.69
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, but they're saying it's not evidence. it's code it's it's

00:47:04.60
Ricky: Yeah.

00:47:05.54
Gareth Flavell: It's coincidental, potentially.

00:47:07.16
Ricky: Right, okay, shit. And some of them could have been the children were ill anyway and it was just bad… Healthcare care and stuff. I mean, that is, that is yeah, that's fucking choppy waters there. um We are going to go on to my favourite, not your favourite.

00:47:23.35
Gareth Flavell: Dennis knows…

00:47:27.38
Ricky: It's the Wests. Fred and Rosemary Wests.

00:47:30.49
Gareth Flavell: He had such a weird looking face, didn't he?

00:47:32.68
Ricky: Mate, he was so, he's so, for both of them, the pair of them, just by looking at their photos, you knew they were out to no good in Gloucester.

00:47:33.24
Gareth Flavell: i

00:47:40.36
Ricky: You fucking knew it.

00:47:42.26
Gareth Flavell: You know there's that famous picture.

00:47:44.28
Ricky: Yes.

00:47:44.78
Gareth Flavell: He just looks evil, doesn't he?

00:47:46.04
Ricky: Yeah, yeah. Ten plus victims we're talking about here. The couple murdered at least ten women and girls, including family members, at their home in Gloucester. The crimes included rape,

00:48:01.99
Ricky: bondage, torture, mutilation. The victims' bodies were dismembered and typically buried in the cellar or garden of the West Residence in Gloucester, which became known as the House of Horrors.

00:48:17.24
Gareth Flavell: Roswell. the Yeah.

00:48:19.34
Ricky: Horrors.

00:48:19.58
Gareth Flavell: Summit Gardens. Roswell Gardens.

00:48:22.46
Ricky: What were they?

00:48:23.05
Gareth Flavell: 47.

00:48:23.67
Ricky: ah Oh, was it? thought it was Cromwell Street.

00:48:26.20
Gareth Flavell: Cromwell. Cromwell Street.

00:48:27.10
Ricky: Right, okay.

00:48:27.20
Gareth Flavell: That's it. Yeah.

00:48:28.98
Ricky: um Actually, Fred was convicted of ah previous to any of this ABH, child molestation, deception, indecent assault, possession of stolen goods, theft and unpaid fines.

00:48:44.73
Ricky: ah Rose, after their second child, became a prostitute. and used to conduct service in the second bedroom at the top floor of their home.

00:48:56.63
Ricky: So not a happy home life, as you can imagine, but this was one of those, you know, when you just hear news stories about um things that live on in your mind, and I remember them doing their kind of air excavation work.

00:49:14.39
Ricky: I believe I do. And, um, you know, when they're digging in the garden, they're finding more bodies under the patio. Um, in the, I think one was found in the chimney, in the chimney breast, like just pushed up into the chimney. This is their own children.

00:49:31.74
Ricky: This is fucking, this is, I remember thinking this is the most insane thing I think I've ever heard.

00:49:32.82
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:49:38.66
Ricky: Yeah,

00:49:39.38
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, it was mental. And I found them under the, in the patio. Yeah.

00:49:44.02
Ricky: yeah, yeah. yeah Yeah, patio dogs. im Fucking…

00:49:48.76
Gareth Flavell: It says here that many of his Fred West crimes involved dominant like so that basically criminologists and psychologists point to a combination of factors that are likely contributed to his crimes.

00:49:51.86
Ricky: Yeah.

00:50:00.60
Gareth Flavell: Many of his crimes involved domination, torture, humiliation and violence.

00:50:05.48
Ricky: Ugh.

00:50:05.50
Gareth Flavell: and investigations believed he derived a gratification from power and control over his victims. but so ah what West grew up in ah in a deeply troubled environment marked by abuse, neglect and disturbing family dynamic dynamics.

00:50:21.78
Gareth Flavell: While most abused people never commit violent crimes, severe early trauma can contribute to distorted behaviour and emotional development.

00:50:29.52
Ricky: Oh, well, so West is, her yeah, it's fucking very grim.

00:50:31.48
Gareth Flavell: Pretty grim.

00:50:35.58
Ricky: so I mean, so for for me, that is, that's what that's I'm going to say that's my my ah number one for me. Moving on to the next one. Who is it?

00:50:46.72
Gareth Flavell: Dennis Nelson.

00:50:47.65
Ricky: No.

00:50:48.28
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:50:48.63
Ricky: yeah ah It's the Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe. Peter, 13 victims. thirteen victims So he's outdone Fred here.

00:51:01.85
Ricky: and Rosemary, convicted in 1981 for murdering 13 women and attempting to kill seven others in Northern England. The search for Sutcliffe was one of the largest and most expensive manhunts in British history. West Yorkshire police faced severe criticism for their failure to catch Sutcliffe, despite having interviewed him nine times in the course of their five-year investigation.

00:51:27.96
Ricky: That's embarrassing.

00:51:28.04
Gareth Flavell: Blimey. Yeah.

00:51:31.04
Ricky: Interviewed nine times. Still couldn't get him. That is like… And as well, the name, the Yorkshire Ripper, modelled after fucking Jack.

00:51:41.72
Ricky: That is…

00:51:42.62
Gareth Flavell: He… Did he… um it He… It was just prostitutes for him, wasn't it?

00:51:48.22
Ricky: um

00:51:48.34
Gareth Flavell: Or not?

00:51:49.59
Ricky: it says here 13 women attempted to kill seven.

00:51:49.91
Gareth Flavell: Not just… but

00:51:52.99
Ricky: i Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. He was one. He was the gentleman that I think he was a local area and then moved to the red light districts because of the vulnerability and the way that police looked at um prostitutes back then.

00:52:09.40
Ricky: But yeah, he's, um I mean, 13 victims is that's, that is, that's a lot.

00:52:15.27
Gareth Flavell: It's mental. Let's talk about Dennis Nilsson.

00:52:18.01
Ricky: Do you know who the next one is?

00:52:19.19
Gareth Flavell: Dennis Nilsson.

00:52:20.83
Ricky: Dennis Nielsen.

00:52:22.12
Gareth Flavell: Do you know why I'm like not obsessed with him, but sort of interested in him? Because it happened in Muswell Hill where, and I would walk past his house and the house still stands.

00:52:27.96
Ricky: Yeah.

00:52:32.59
Ricky: Yeah.

00:52:33.37
Gareth Flavell: and people live in that house now, but he killed like 25, no, it was about 15 men.

00:52:35.74
Ricky: Oh my God.

00:52:39.07
Ricky: 15 fit so uh dennis nelson civil servant who killed at least 15 young men and boys in between london in london between 1978 and 1983 um he's also necrophile

00:52:56.34
Gareth Flavell: So you'd have sex with the but but bodies or,

00:52:58.49
Ricky: dead bodies yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah loved it

00:52:59.77
Gareth Flavell: hey he um So it happened yeah near where I lived. And the fact that what's mental about it is that this street is just a terraced street.

00:53:11.03
Ricky: o

00:53:11.40
Gareth Flavell: So there was just hundreds of houses on this one street. It's a very long street in Muswell Hill around the back of it. And to walk from one end to the other on this single street would probably be about 10, 15 minutes.

00:53:22.54
Ricky: Fuck!

00:53:22.64
Gareth Flavell: And it's long and winding.

00:53:24.54
Ricky: Right.

00:53:24.66
Gareth Flavell: And there were just houses everywhere.

00:53:26.87
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:27.03
Gareth Flavell: And the fact that he'd managed to get as many people into the house, kill them and dismember them and keep the parts for so long without being discovered, just fucking blew my mind.

00:53:33.88
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:39.36
Gareth Flavell: Like people are in the house next door, enjoying their lives, going to sleep and the next door is… just carnage and he got caught because he was flashing body parts down the toilet and it clogged up the drains and they they they sent in a rentacle like a rentacle like a you know these drain clearage company but yeah one of them and they just found chunks of flesh in the in the um in in the sewage and then obviously at that point they they they found body parts but it worked for a long long time And if you haven't seen, there's a brilliant dramatization of this with Robert, no, what's his name?

00:53:45.27
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:50.84
Ricky: Yeah. don I think it's Dinerod. Yeah.

00:54:16.18
Ricky: Yeah.

00:54:21.54
Gareth Flavell: Doctor Who.

00:54:23.46
Ricky: Uh, uh, Tennant.

00:54:23.54
Gareth Flavell: Neil, no, what's it? Dave Tennant or Neil Tennant?

00:54:26.88
Ricky: I can't, we're doing Petshop boys, isn aren't we? Neil Tennant.

00:54:29.27
Gareth Flavell: and Neil Tennant, yeah, David Tennant.

00:54:31.35
Ricky: Yeah.

00:54:32.89
Gareth Flavell: Neil Tennant is Pet Shop Boys, isn't

00:54:34.09
Ricky: Yeah.

00:54:35.45
Gareth Flavell: And because they because he looks a bit like him,

00:54:39.00
Ricky: Yeah.

00:54:39.64
Gareth Flavell: And when they when he when he's in character, it looks almost identical to dent how Dennis Nilsen looks in in real life.

00:54:46.87
Ricky: It was great. It it was, a yeah, it was great.

00:54:48.73
Gareth Flavell: was good one.

00:54:50.42
Ricky: And when the plumbers um were found that what they described as, it looked like human flesh and bones, Nilsson was there and he said, I think someone has tried to flush KFC down the toilet.

00:55:09.42
Ricky: And that's what that is.

00:55:11.19
Gareth Flavell: that where Is that a Howie?

00:55:11.80
Ricky: that Yeah. Yeah. And then they were like, hmm.

00:55:15.31
Gareth Flavell: Did he say KFC, was it? It was chicken.

00:55:16.82
Ricky: Yeah. well Well, I think he said KFC.

00:55:19.54
Gareth Flavell: Oh.

00:55:20.50
Ricky: ah well a Or, yeah. I don't know.

00:55:23.60
Gareth Flavell: It's definitely cooked chicken.

00:55:23.78
Ricky: i so Yeah, definitely cooked chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:27.00
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah,

00:55:27.45
Ricky: But, um yeah, and then obviously that's how he was caught. 15 victims. That's minimum. And then we get to…

00:55:37.11
Gareth Flavell: there's probably more.

00:55:38.68
Ricky: Oh, 100%. I was reading this account of him and he was his first victim. He was.

00:55:44.92
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, he did say Kentucky Fried Chicken. I just checked. Yeah, he did say that.

00:55:47.74
Ricky: yeah Fucking mad thing to say, isn't His first victim, he went to a pub.

00:55:50.42
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:55:54.57
Ricky: They refused to sell him because sell alcohol to him because he was so drunk. He managed to kind of chat to this 15 year boy 14 year old boy.

00:56:08.22
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:56:08.86
Ricky: because the boy thought he was about 17, said, I'm going to get drinks from the offy, want to come back to my house, went back to his house. They had a night of drinking, listening to music and just chatting.

00:56:22.42
Ricky: They both fell asleep. And Dennis woke up in the morning and saw the boy was still asleep and was like, I want him to stay. I don't want him to go.

00:56:32.73
Ricky: i want i want to keep him here.

00:56:34.52
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:56:35.48
Ricky: So he was like, I'm going to be here around Christmas time. I'm going to be here all on my own. I want the boy to stay for like two weeks over Christmas period.

00:56:46.52
Ricky: Then he just got like a ah tie or something like that, strangulated him and then drowned him in a bucket of water um and then wanked over his body twice and then hid him under the floorboards.

00:56:51.22
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:56:53.78
Gareth Flavell: Jesus.

00:57:04.02
Gareth Flavell: What about the smell?

00:57:05.59
Ricky: ah He was there for eight months. um And then he was like, fuck, it absolutely honks in here.

00:57:13.41
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:57:14.11
Ricky: need to do a little with bonfire in the garden and dash dash this young lad on the bonfire, which is, yeah, i mean, like, yeah.

00:57:15.80
Gareth Flavell: Get rid. Get rid.

00:57:21.91
Gareth Flavell: Think about the smell. You haven't thought about the smell, you bitch.

00:57:23.72
Ricky: good What? What's that? Yeah.

00:57:28.28
Gareth Flavell: That's always sunny in Philadelphia.

00:57:30.01
Ricky: ah ah No one ever thinks about the smell, even with Ted Bundy stuff.

00:57:30.87
Gareth Flavell: big

00:57:34.65
Ricky: Right, we're just going to go to the top Donnie here. Last one.

00:57:38.62
Gareth Flavell: Who is it?

00:57:39.99
Ricky: You know who it is. It's fucking Shippo's.

00:57:41.41
Gareth Flavell: Shippers. Shippers.

00:57:44.01
Ricky: Shipdog. Howard Shipman, 200 plus victims. like Right, Dennis Nielsen is 15 plus. Shipman is 200 plus. Some people even report of 250.

00:57:55.89
Gareth Flavell: man.

00:57:56.28
Ricky: Manchester GP, Shipman was convicted of ah In 2000 of murdering 15 patients, but a 2005 report estimated he killed approximately 250 people, making him one of the most prolific in history.

00:57:57.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:58:14.49
Ricky: I mean… Do you think he doesn't get like the credit he, like the the kind of, a not the credit he deserves, as in, no, I'm talking about the the the why he isn't glorified as the the top ah murderer because he was a GP and it was administered drugs.

00:58:20.06
Gareth Flavell: Credit either.

00:58:32.83
Ricky: It wasn't your type of sexual predator, ah knife crime, that type of, it's like you were saying about just prescription drugs and a syringe here and cheer in there.

00:58:33.34
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:58:42.39
Gareth Flavell: What was it? what So what was he doing? Were they turning up and then…

00:58:45.46
Ricky: I don't actually know. i like i remember at the time he was saying about… um I remember at the time watching the news story and there was something to do with he was making some of them getting so drugged up and out of it that they were changing their will and putting his name down.

00:59:07.35
Gareth Flavell: Really? Yeah.

00:59:08.12
Ricky: Yeah, but i kind of remember, a lot that's what I remember when this was all kicking off back in the day, that he was getting them to, that they were so out of it that they were changing their will.

00:59:18.43
Ricky: And i was like, but wouldn't surely, like, if these people were dying and like his last 10 patients have left large sums of money to Shipman in a will, wouldn't you kind of think something's going on here?

00:59:33.05
Ricky: You what you know, he wasn't very clever about that, Harold.

00:59:33.37
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:59:38.42
Gareth Flavell: ah It says, no one can be completely certain why Harold Shipman killed so many people. He never fully confessed or explained himself. Psychologists, investigators and ch criminologists put forward a few theories. Power and control.

00:59:49.82
Gareth Flavell: Many experts think Shipman enjoyed the absolute control he had over life and death. God complex. Some investigators believe he the alert developed a sense that he alone decided who lived and died.

01:00:02.52
Gareth Flavell: and He had some sort of psychopath like psychopathy. Psychopathy.

01:00:07.99
Ricky: I mean, that's fucking crazy. I'm still kind of like, I don't know how he did it. Like, I know he's like, i've like ah like he was prescribing patients with stronger medication than they needed, but I don't understand why.

01:00:13.78
Gareth Flavell: it says surely that's trackable as well oh look he took too much of this type of drug right where did he get the drug the gp all right that's weird we better check might have made a mistake and then it's happened a hundred times um

01:00:35.91
Ricky: I think that's that's how it was found out because so one of the ah like the nurses or someone in the in the practice had to count a sign death certificates and was like, fucking hell, like Shippers has got loads on his desk. a lot Why has he got so many death certificates that I have to count a sign? This can't be coincidence. This is weird.

01:00:56.92
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:00:57.14
Ricky: And I think they tried to investigate him and maybe they did they didn't at first, but then they eventually did.

01:00:57.23
Gareth Flavell: Mm-hmm.

01:01:03.90
Ricky: But I don't ah don't like understand it. Like giving old people like stronger medication than they need that slowly killed them. now what lot i didn' Maybe it's the God complex of what i this is what I can do and no one can stop me.

01:01:17.24
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, he's just like… Yeah, I've said most of his money… It wasn't about money. said, unlike some killers, money does not appear to have been the main motive. He did forge ah a victim's will late in his crimes, but most murders… Most of the murders had no obvious financial benefit.

01:01:32.78
Ricky: I do remember, I remember reading the story as well that um he had bought, they found in his house a specific type of typewriter that types in a font for wills.

01:01:32.84
Gareth Flavell: It's just a nutter.

01:01:43.09
Gareth Flavell: right.

01:01:43.90
Ricky: So I don't know, but I mean, yeah, maybe.

01:01:45.97
Gareth Flavell: I think it might have just been that one case where he was forging a wheel.

01:01:49.06
Ricky: so out of all those, you still, Dennis is your top.

01:01:49.30
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:01:54.14
Gareth Flavell: I mean, yeah, because it was so close. know Every time I walked past the house, I would look look at it and…

01:01:59.62
Ricky: Light candle. a

01:02:00.82
Gareth Flavell: No, but I don't… It would, like… It'd have a weird energy about it.

01:02:04.44
Ricky: yeah

01:02:04.54
Gareth Flavell: I know that's just my mind playing… It's just my mind doing it. I understand that because I know what happened, but it just felt… The air feels thick around that house.

01:02:11.64
Ricky: when when i was a kid i remember a uh someone died in the house you know like very kind of ah children's uh stories and how they get twisted and stuff someone died in a lower ground floor flat there was blood sprayed all up the walls

01:02:21.69
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:02:28.09
Ricky: The person died, but there was no ah mark on this person's body. And no one knows how they died. There was a ah common thing that their eardrums burst and blood sprayed out of their ears all over the walls.

01:02:39.80
Gareth Flavell: ah That's that oh aorta.

01:02:42.01
Ricky: ah Yeah.

01:02:42.92
Gareth Flavell: it Probably a ruptured aorta that came out of the mouth, maybe.

01:02:45.18
Ricky: Yeah, something like that. um But every time when I used to do my paper on it, I'd have to deliver to that house. um so And it used to freak me the fuck out.

01:02:54.49
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, you sort of quickly go in, drop it off, and then then you're out.

01:02:56.49
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be pushing the newspaper all the way through the letterbox like I would to everyone else.

01:02:58.92
Gareth Flavell: Hmm.

01:03:03.10
Ricky: Like, just quick jab and then then fucking run for it. ah For me, I'm going to have to go with Fred and Rose because it was their own children and the way they were buried and sex. yeah Everything that kind of came apart for Fred was just fucking absolutely…

01:03:21.28
Ricky: It's so grim. You can't even, ah can't even comprehend how someone is so cruel and callous and troubled and all of that.

01:03:26.55
Gareth Flavell: It's horrible, isn't it?

01:03:29.90
Ricky: So right, there we go. That's, that's the list. Okay.

01:03:33.75
Gareth Flavell: Good.

01:03:33.94
Ricky: um with Good discussion there. We are going to go on something only you know. The topic for next week is the simulation theory.

01:03:41.04
Gareth Flavell: Okay.

01:03:44.92
Ricky: The simulation theory proposes that all reality, including human consciousness and the universe, is an artificial hyper-realistic computer simulation created by an advanced civilization.

01:03:52.28
Gareth Flavell: Interesting.

01:03:58.30
Ricky: Uh, we'll discuss other theories. Uh, there's a lot flying about at the moment, a lot of, ah conspiracy theories, um, how we're all living. and AI plays a part in this.

01:04:09.26
Ricky: Um, but like there is that I've got a few questions that I'd like to have a chat with you about. So if anyone else has any theories they've seen, then send them in and we'll discuss them.

01:04:14.45
Gareth Flavell: right.

01:04:20.59
Ricky: Lads are non pod at gmail.com. And we are going to go into something only, you know,

01:04:32.89
Ricky: Getting shit-faced. I just finished up an adult rec league basketball game. I got in my car and drove home. I sat on my couch, wallowing in my performance and out of shape body, thankful that my girlfriend was at work instead of sitting through my shitty basketball game.

01:04:54.58
Ricky: I love her dearly and even had a pair of underwear customized with her face on them. It only cost me 20 bucks. Decent quality.

01:05:06.07
Ricky: a great buy. She loved it when I wore them. I just drunk a small protein shake. I feel a rumble in my stomach thinking it's just a fart.

01:05:17.69
Ricky: I attempt to let rip. It wasn't just a fart. I had absolutely shat my pants, wet and stinky. I ran into the bathroom, cleaned myself up and threw away the underwear.

01:05:32.54
Ricky: I immediately ordered another pair of the same customized underwear to cover it up. To this day, my sweet girl does not know i shat right on her face.

01:05:44.86
Ricky: And that is something only I know. I mean… we're talking about serial killers here. Who orders underwear with their partner's face on it?

01:05:58.36
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, that is pretty circular energy, yeah.

01:06:00.09
Ricky: I mean, that is like, I understand. And I've even thought about it. The thought has crossed my mind to buy my missus pajamas with the kid's face on it or my or my face on it just for a laugh, just for a little gimmick, you know, present or whatever.

01:06:06.56
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:06:08.89
Gareth Flavell: With your face. Oh, right, yeah, yeah.

01:06:15.54
Ricky: But to buy, and can you imagine wearing boxer shorts with your wife's face on it?

01:06:20.76
Gareth Flavell: No, because I'm not like i'm normal.

01:06:22.94
Ricky: Yeah, exactly.

01:06:25.12
Gareth Flavell: I don't think you should rate it.

01:06:25.62
Ricky: Exactly. no i'd No, no, no, no. It's pretty grim. ah Thank you for that. By the way, everyone else, if you listen to this, something only you know, the the last four have been about people shitting themselves, right? We have run out like people shitting themselves, okay?

01:06:44.41
Ricky: We don't have any more.

01:06:45.21
Gareth Flavell: Maybe it's time. Maybe is it time to um to end?

01:06:47.51
Ricky: Maybe, maybe it might be. that's ah That's absolutely fine. We can do that.

01:06:52.50
Gareth Flavell: m

01:06:52.98
Ricky: So if there's anyone else out there

01:06:54.84
Gareth Flavell: Last call.

01:06:55.80
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Ricky: So next week is simulation theory. I've been Ricky. He's been Flav. We hope you have a lovely week.

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Why don't males recommend porn links to each other? That's a good point. I've never done that. Like we. Us. I mean, like, it doesn't even have to be my like, but any like we recommend restaurants, holidays, trainers. I like all these things, but we never say check this link out is so true. Have a look at this. I think it's about a couple of things.

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I think one thing is about the taboo with pornography. Even if you're open with your mates, we all know we will not want out every now and then. It's an amazing time when blokes get to an age where they're comfortable saying that with each other, because when you're a kid and you're first doing it, you're not comfortable, right?

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Because it's a taboo and you should hide it and then it gets of gets worse later. It's well, funny with you with your mates and it just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joke and talk about it. Scam for a wank. Is that all right? And yeah, even now it's funny as grown men as we are. I think the. But it's still a part of the taboo.

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But also you're letting people into your kinks and your little subtleties, like we all close friend of you know, we know that he's into such a niche form of porn. Yeah, yeah. I've never heard of this pornography type of pornography before. And you know exactly what I'm talking about. Me, I dare you. Well, I mean, it could be a couple of people, and it could be a couple of things.

00:01:27:15 – 00:01:53:03
Right. Well, you you describe the porn, and I'll do it as well. Okay. So a woman is holding a man up in her arms, and while he's got basically shoulder height to her, she is sucking him off like, it's like she's playing the bagpipes with another human. That's exactly what I was thinking about. Yeah.

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I actually loves it. I know, I mean, it is that it's really. It's proper niche. I don't love it, I think. No, no, no, I think there's nothing but good things about that, man. That, it's a good point. Like. Well. Well, maybe I don't, I, I don't know, I mean, I don't want to be like, like you saying about the kink shaming, and it might not even be a kink for me.

00:02:16:23 – 00:02:41:07
I might see something and I'm like, five, check this out and you better. But you not want out to her, mate. She's grim. Look at her teeth. And I'm like, you've ruined that for me now. Like I was really into, I don't know, Claire. And now it's been ruined because all I'm thinking about is their teeth that you don't like.

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And it's just weird that I just don't fit. Is anyone anybody's business? What? What, did you get email in or something? Is that why you bring this up? Yeah, yeah. So we got an email in and it was, it was to that. And then he put up the note coming out. Oh sorry. After knocking one out. What for me was peak pornography.

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I thought that video is so good. The girl all the time. Premium cock and the perfect bump and grind. I must tell a mate about it, but I can't. I never have, nor has anyone ever shared a link with me. All my mates, a filthy pigs. And I'm old enough to have lived in the VHS and DVD days similar I just to back then the odd video or DVD would get passed around.

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Keep things fresh but yet the simple link has never been shared. I mean, do you remember no one said that there was a kid back where he lived and he said they would pay him like $4 to draw him a picture of, like, pornography because he couldn't have access. So he just draw pornography? Yeah. Georgia of vaginas. Vaginas.

00:03:44:01 – 00:04:05:23
It may pay him $4 so they can take the picture home. It's like that happened to me. Well, yeah, there's a kid called Colton at my school, and he would draw, like, like women with massive knockers, with these massive cock sisters and all all over him. And he was, like, brilliant at drawing cartoons. I didn't, I told me one, draw me one, draw me one.

00:04:06:00 – 00:04:37:08
He died. Unfortunately. Nine wasted. Like the talent. Yeah. Wasted talent. Did you ever, like, request, say, like. Come on. I love what you're doing, but can you, can you not draw the veiny cock spanking all over the woman? That's part of the fun. Like a couple of us, like, can you put the cock on the woman? That.

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The night hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music are. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:05:03:11 – 00:05:25:18
Hello and welcome to Louds. Anonymous is episode 56 I'm Ricky Haze Flav, two best mates, one main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav? How was your M? I haven't caught up with you about New Year.

00:05:25:20 – 00:05:59:02
Like, obviously back in the day, New Year was a. Oh, it was an affair, wasn't it? It was, heavy, heavy day. Evening. Yeah. It would be. It would be that I think there was a period around crush on Crouch and. Yeah, where we are 2 or 3 New Years and it was just man, I mean, it was always heavy at the weekends anyway, but New Year's was something else and I was we would go a time who didn't really go out at that time partying.

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Yeah. And I was like, I really, really wanted to go to a party. And I remember it been 4 a.m. and she called me, and when are you coming home? It's 4 a.m. it's New Year's Day now. And I was at.

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I don't want.

00:06:17:06 – 00:06:43:09
Yeah. Just don't be angry. I'm not coming home yet. But it was terrible. But I should have been home for him as long enough. It's. Yeah. Yeah, but I was at that time completely naked, enjoying the warmth from underfloor heating. No, nothing sexual. Was just naked because I'd had a shower for some reason in someone's flat and, and that underfloor heating in the on their wooden floors.

00:06:43:11 – 00:07:04:21
So I was lying flat on like off the off my tits. The good times that it's, like having a shower around someone. Did you know this person? Right. Okay. That's what I knew. The personal with it was Justin I was with. Yeah, but but the it was his girlfriend's house who had never met Bob. Had a show, I find it.

00:07:04:23 – 00:07:23:05
Yeah. Yeah, I remember we got back and we. This is. I mean, I'm not condoning this in any way, and it's there's something I'm going to talk about later, which is a byproduct of all of these sort of behaviors that I used to get up to. But I remember getting back and we, we poured all of our drugs that we had left on us on the table.

00:07:23:07 – 00:07:53:20
And I was like, we can't do that. That's there's too much there. But I always say, did you always do? Yeah. New Year's, was was different back then what it is now. I stayed at home, I didn't drink. Yeah, yeah, I said you didn't have anyone round. So you. So the plan was for Oli to have, 2 to 2 girlfriends over and a sister over, which I was dreading because.

00:07:53:22 – 00:08:10:08
Not that I love them all. They're great, but I was dreading it because I wasn't drinking and they were going to be drinking. And it's almost like you're obliged to sit at the table. But how long can you sit with, like, a gaggle of drunk women before you want to leave? So I and then my missus had, I don't know what I was.

00:08:10:08 – 00:08:34:15
She decided she wanted to go into town. So she messaged me saying we taxi us in and out of town and that I did that instead. So. So I was just I watched, what can but powerful. That was Black Panther. Right. So you you didn't decide to even have a casual like a single beer or so you've been off the beer since Christmas Day.

00:08:34:15 – 00:09:00:24
Really? Boxing day, boxing day. Yeah. Well, sure there is. No. Yeah, I mean, not why? Why the fuck not? So, the topic we are going to be discussing today is New Year's resolutions. I don't know how you feel about New Year's resolutions, because I've seen a lot of people chatting that New Year's resolutions is a load of ballocks.

00:09:01:01 – 00:09:17:05
It's it. You should be getting the stuff that you want to be changing about your life. You should be changing it anyway. You don't need to wait for a new year to say, I'm no longer going to fucking take drugs. I'm going to get up earlier in the morning. I'm going to do I'm not suck your dick anymore.

00:09:17:05 – 00:09:40:04
I'm not doing it. Yeah, yeah, I got enough all of that, and that. But then there are other people that are like, you know what, let's shovel in the last of the gamblin of the coke, of the vaping of the beer, drink, whatever it might be. And then from now on, this is the line in the sand.

00:09:40:04 – 00:10:01:15
This is where it fucking stops. I've had enough of this noise now, and we march forwards. Yeah. So a lot of you, which can be you in like I'm in the camp that if anything that's that enables people to make positive changes in their life, then why should you be hating on it? Well, like what? I get it.

00:10:01:15 – 00:10:21:17
If you're like David Goggins, like, every day's January 1st, every day you run until you die. I get that kind of mentality. But that's not normal, is it? He's fucking mentally disabled like he's a he's not. There's nothing normal about how what David Goggins is not appreciate his story is interesting story, but and he is inspiring to a lot of people.

00:10:21:17 – 00:10:39:23
And people say it's toxic and whatnot. But, you know, if he's encouraging people to get up and start moving, that's a positive thing, I think. But yeah, no, there's nothing wrong with you. I generally or stock towbar or, you know, all of these things. If it encourages people to make positive decisions, then and so be it.

00:10:39:23 – 00:10:59:05
All I would say, however, is I've done dry January before. I've gone through a month. And you're the mindset for me at that stage. It's a couple years ago was got to go get to January 31st, then I can start drinking again. That was what I was focused on. I'll just get to that deadline so I can start thinking and thank Christ.

00:10:59:07 – 00:11:22:03
Let's start drinking again. Yeah. And then which case is what's the point? You haven't done anything. You've not moved the dial in shift. I want to say that in case people, what I'm saying is, if you're binge drinking or drinking every day from January 31st all the way to December, I don't think that Dry January is going to make a huge amount of difference to your health and longevity.

00:11:22:05 – 00:11:41:10
I might be wrong, but if you use that as a starting block and many people day, then it's a super positive thing and you've in it. Often you feel like you need to be in it with other people. So yeah, why not? Yeah, hating on it for hating on it sake. I mean hate on stuff that needs to be hated on like, I don't know, pedophilia like that to up your attention.

00:11:41:10 – 00:12:03:13
Don't hate on someone. We give them up. Drink after Christmas sake. Yeah. I, I'm in that camp of, obviously whenever, at whatever time you decide to change something good for you, you fucking go for it. But I'm also 1st of January. Let's draw a line in the sand. I've always wanted to do this. I've had my mind on it.

00:12:03:15 – 00:12:32:24
I've been flip flopping. I've been saying right after that, lads, do out. Then I'll stop after, going to this football match and then I'll knock it on the air doing all of that stuff. And now it is January and I am moving along with my, my plans kind of. What is it you're giving up? Self self-improvement. So the first thing that I have actually given up is vaping.

00:12:33:01 – 00:12:56:15
So. Oh, really? Yeah. So in September you gave up cigarettes, you started gaming, you went heavily because a lot of people do. They lean into the vape heavily don't they. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. So I stopped smoking rotis in September. I went out with the, the gunners that listen to the pod and I, it was a filthy night.

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It was one of those nights where I like the hanger. I was sick at 8:00 in the evening. Hang on a second. Is this the evening we were talking about the other day? Well, you went out and you. You supposed to go football the next day. No, no, no, that's different, that's different. That's. When was this. That was different.

00:13:11:22 – 00:13:39:15
Now this is back in September. I went to see my bed. A couple of, tribute bands, at pulp, what they called, pulped and, I can't remember what it was. I think they were just called blur. And the beauty of this cover band that they came out did blur. It was brought in. Round of applause went off, pulp came on, first thing started, and I was like, some geezer.

00:13:39:17 – 00:14:01:19
That's the same. That's the same fucking geezer. He's got a wig on. And it was the same band. And they thought they both brilliantly. Really had a lovely night. What a bloody good night. But Yeah, I got fucking. It was just horrendous. And then, you know, after when you're so hung out you for days on end and you look at your cigarettes and you just I can't, I can't even do that.

00:14:01:19 – 00:14:19:06
And it's been three days. And then after that I was like, you know, I've not had a roadie for three days. Why don't I just fuck them off completely? Did you feel like I just them to have them? Not at that point, because I was still hung over and that was the best point to attack. Three days later, I was still fit.

00:14:19:08 – 00:14:41:10
Still fit in anxiety. Edgy, right? No. Not great. So it was a mixture of things. I thought if I, if I stop then and don't pick up the robberies and I eventually when I get out of that funk five days into it and I want to do something, just go grab the vape. So then I started vaping. I started vaping hard.

00:14:41:10 – 00:15:00:20
I was, you know, working from home, vaping in my office, lasting at night, lying in bed while the missus is asleep, roll in over having, you know, see secret couple of vapes by the bed. Yeah, by the bed. Yeah, yeah. Just got I haven't got out by myself. Why did you have to be secretive about a vape, for fuck's sake?

00:15:00:22 – 00:15:26:14
Yeah, I get it rolling over and having a line of gear, but not fucking beats. I don't want to be lying in bed. Got vaping like some fucking. So it's fine if you know about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, it's not fine because it was eating away at me. But and then as well, like the part of vaping where you would take a pull and you'd get some sweet flavored liquid on your lip was kind of my lungs.

00:15:26:16 – 00:15:53:06
Yeah. What was going on? Like, what am I doing? So then January the 1st, I was like, do you know what? That's it. I'm done. I'm done with vaping. Done with cigarettes. Makes me feel terrible. And I just it does nothing positive for me. Nothing. None of it is positive. No one such a. This is the realization I've been coming to in the in the last sort of, well, ten days.

00:15:53:06 – 00:16:21:05
So basically before Christmas, I went to, I went to the doctor's, because I've got an operation I had like a pre-op examination, and they, they did my blood pressure and it was super high. It was like there's three stages of hypertension. And I was in stage two, which is isn't good at 30, 43. And there are a number of reasons, like my nan died at 40, 59 from complications due to high blood pressure, you know, sleep.

00:16:21:07 – 00:16:40:24
That's fucking well young. Yeah. 59. Yeah. It was it's a shock is a big shock. But remember they didn't have the motor in there. They do now. They just never been picked up. Perishes basically. Yeah. And my mum also has it and she's on medication to bring it down. Luckily now they have pills that bring blood pressure right down and it can be managed really easy.

00:16:41:01 – 00:17:06:24
So it's not scary as it once was. But for me it was alarming because I'm 43 and, I'm like, well, how have I let this happen? I knew how I'd let it happen, but I was almost like in denial that there was anything wrong. And so they said, you need to get this down, and ideally do it through a change of lifestyle.

00:17:07:01 – 00:17:34:02
So my lifestyle pretty much for the last, well, since Covid is more or less drinking most days, there'll be some weeks where I drink every day. And when as soon as I drink, I start smoking. Yeah, and most of my day spent sitting in this chair, completely sedentary. And that combination of free things and smashing loads of coffee as well, all of those four things, all, like they push hard heart pressure up.

00:17:34:04 – 00:18:04:20
So there's a there's a sort of cocktail of all of those negative behaviors. And, and the fact that I have a history in, of it in my family. So I was that right? I don't have a choice here. This isn't a New Year's resolution. This is something that has to happen. It's a change in lifestyle. And I've got to say, right, there were times where I was like, I'd get up and I was fucking hung over again, and I'd just get up, get on with it, go to work, walk the dog, whatever it would be.

00:18:04:22 – 00:18:23:14
I just was like, felt terrible. And there was a moment where that about three weeks ago, well, it's a take. I had to sit down. I felt so sort of lethargic. I had to sit down and I was like, this is not right. And then I went to a doctor's and then they they did that, the blood pressure and stuff.

00:18:23:14 – 00:18:48:17
And we did. You have to sit down because you was so hungover. No, we're just not you. You just had no energy. Like I just fell on my mum. It felt like my muscles were, like, fatigued. They were like. They were like. Like I'd run. That's what it felt like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, if you don't mind me asking, what was your.

00:18:48:19 – 00:19:13:22
Because when you say you like drinking every day, there is the second drink up in one's mind. Could be mateys. Got eight cans of fucking Stella every night. I need pop in a can every single night. Or is it the. The kind of one? It's this aspirational relationship of wine with dinner and then another bottle while you're watching a film with me, is that it?

00:19:13:23 – 00:19:40:16
Just. It just where I was. I have a day after day. Yeah. It's that it was the habit of. So I've got a really positive connection with wine, my wife, our relationship, how we met each other, the really kind of wonderful parts of the early start of our relationship involved a lot of red wine going to France and sitting by the sea and looking out and drinking with Brian and sitting on a sofa, light in the fire, having a glass of red wine.

00:19:40:17 – 00:20:04:17
All that is lovely and romantic. Yeah. Feels great. Don't be wrong, I miss it, but, I adjust and then towards the end of the night, you'll have a glass of whiskey, too. I mean, not every night, especially at weekends. The boxes on this open of whiskey, football's on. If it's like a 730 kick off, a couple of beers, whiskey sitting down.

00:20:04:20 – 00:20:26:11
Dad on a Friday night. So it all adds up. Yeah. And compounded by the fact that I was doing nothing by moving. I wasn't moving me. I was I was just sitting and, and so, Yeah, the, the, the nurse said, you need this is too high y too high. You need to do five readings with your your blood test.

00:20:26:13 – 00:20:43:16
Let's see if this is a normal reading for you or it's just an anomaly. Anyway, I did another one and it was still high, so I was like, I've got a I've got a change. And then on on Boxing Day I said that I would never I'm going to have some time off of alcohol. At that time I thought do joy January see if has.

00:20:43:17 – 00:21:11:20
Yeah but but now I'm thinking I'm never going to drink again. Probably. I'm probably never going to touch ever, ever, ever. Yeah, it's not worth it, mate. And the more the more, the more I think about alcohol, my relationship with it, the more mental it seems. Because I think about it and I'm like, well, what what what you said what did you say about vaping and about tobacco?

00:21:11:22 – 00:21:40:04
It does. Yeah. There's no point, no positive aspect whatsoever. There is absolutely zero positives from, from tobacco, vaping. And you could say alcohol. Now, there are some when you say that and it's not true, you got to be honest. There are some positive things about alcohol, social lubricant. You can enjoy it with your friends, but it's got to a stage where that isn't enough for them.

00:21:40:06 – 00:22:02:07
The negative impacts of what alcohol does to me specifically. So, and the reason why you all have these cravings and why you have a cravings for cigarette is because you're smoking, because you're drinking, and it's that cycle of you have withdrawal. So you drink to to sedate the anxiety of not having a drink of all that need to want one.

00:22:02:12 – 00:22:24:06
Same with cigarettes. And the more you use, the more you smoke, the more that those withdrawals, the more intense those withdrawals are. And the only way to stop that is to stop smoking. Stop drinking. Yeah. And at this weird realization is that I every time I have a sip of alcohol, immediately, I want a cigarette immediately. Yeah, yeah.

00:22:24:12 – 00:22:47:11
The first step. Yeah, I'd want a cigarette. You know what? I haven't craved a cigarette in ten days. I haven't even have. You know, I know I swear on my on all these life. And you know how much I love I. Yeah, yeah. Where on her life strike her dead now if I'm lying. Oh, shit. I have not even thought about a cigarette.

00:22:47:13 – 00:23:10:21
It's not even come into my mind. And then I'm wondering, well, what cigarettes are the most addictive? You know, nicotine. Most one of those addictive long heroin substances on the planet. So how is it, then, that I've had no cravings for for for cigarettes. I have cravings for alcohol. Don't be wrong. 100%. Yeah, yeah, but for cigarettes. Someone gave me a cigarette.

00:23:10:21 – 00:23:37:21
Now go. Go. Not that I wouldn't smoke it. I wouldn't want to. There'd be nothing. You, me. Go. I want that cigarette until I've had a drink. So? So how real is, how real is. Are these sort of perceived addictive nature? Perceived addictive? What? My work. Searching for traits in human beings. But surely if I'm addicted to cigarettes, as I should be, because it smokes a lot, why is it that I have no cravings at all?

00:23:37:23 – 00:24:10:01
And if I don't have any cravings, and maybe they're not as addictive as people think, but you you're you get into a habit or a thought process of thinking, I need them. Which is stronger than the actual product. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, completely. I think it is. I literally just about in that. So I think it comes down to, a mindset of where by that I would easily vape or smoke and be drinking and summertime and sociable and it's fun and all these other things.

00:24:10:03 – 00:24:36:11
And I'm at the point now where I've got to this day for after I went out full steam in The hangover bind off Rawlings. And it's just, you know, that one too many times and we've all had them and then we all go back to it. But, at this very moment in time, while I'm sitting here chatting to you, Flav, is that I don't want to wake up feeling not shit anymore.

00:24:36:13 – 00:25:13:19
I really don't I want to feel as a close to 100% as possible. I want to be running efficient, you know? I mean, I can't allow you can't, you can't. And alcohol and smoking cigarettes and vaping and whatever else, you can't I can't go to bed at night and wake up in the morning and then be like, ready for the day of what I need to do for my family and for myself if I'm hung over or if I need to go to smoke or go to the shop and, you know, or just any of that stuff, it all rolls and so on, really.

00:25:13:21 – 00:25:37:11
And at this moment I, you know, I don't I don't want to fight that. There's been a couple of times I say in my routine every evening I would start doing my Duolingo and learning Spanish, Spanish, Spanish. I'm on about, 700 and something consecutive days learning Spanish. So you must be able to speak Spanish, right?

00:25:37:13 – 00:26:01:21
Speaking Spanish, I can do different sentences and stuff like that, but the reading and listening, I reckon I couldn't read Spanish if you gave me a, a book or something like that I could pick out from a book or menu or whatever, I would know what is what is saying, along those lines, you could, you could, you could sort of understand a paragraph in a book.

00:26:01:23 – 00:26:31:00
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Really. That's good. Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. For sure. And listening. Sorry, I don't speak Spanish, but could you answer in Spanish? How where is the bank? Done there. Hasta el banco. What's that mean? Where is the bank? Now tell me where the bank is. El banco. Tala Recto.

00:26:31:02 – 00:26:52:14
That means straight down. Yeah, I like it. Get a drink. I don't know if he's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. There you go. That's it. But this is. I think if you just fucking fucked on alcohol every day. Hung over and drawn out. Strung out. Would you want to do Duolingo? Probably not. No. But when I lay down and I'm dead, my Duolingo just slouch on the sofa.

00:26:52:14 – 00:27:12:21
That's when I'd get the vape out, and that's where I'd just be like, it's. It's the 11:00 to 12 before I got a bed. The vaping. And that's been where I've thought about it, but I've just been watching the Duolingo go to bed. Forget about during the day. I'm safe. I'm fine. I'm sound. Yeah. That that that is it.

00:27:12:21 – 00:27:37:22
The the the other thing as well. Like what I've just mentioned there and I spoke about this on the pod many a time. You know what I'm like grip Flav. You know what I'm like. But I am trying. I'm trying. And it's this new, renewed optimism of health is wealth and not feeling like shit, not being hung over.

00:27:37:23 – 00:27:59:14
Not, you know, all of that stuff is to try to get a good night's sleep. And that doesn't mean when I go to sleep I'm tossing and turning and this and that. When I go to sleep, I'm. I'm sound. I don't need any, kind of tablets to make me go to sleep or. Oh, that's fine. It's drift off straight away.

00:27:59:16 – 00:28:24:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much pretty much. And I go to bed at half 12 and then I'll wake up at half six, but when I wake up, like I've, I've got to a point now where I feel like I cannot open my eyes in the morning like they're so sunken in and I'm so tired. You need more than six hours.

00:28:24:17 – 00:28:41:15
You're not fully resting. I'm. I'm looking at my Fitbit and it's like five hours. And something about that is ridiculous. I don't even have children to get up for in the middle of the night and all that long, like babies I'm talking about. So what, are you going to push yourself to bed earlier than Ricky? Is that your New Year's resolution?

00:28:41:17 – 00:29:03:19
My New Year's resolution is to is to start, maybe like 11:00. And I want to get down to 10:00. I want to I want to stop. This is what. So this is two pronged. Really? Yeah. So this is a bit of health and this is a bit of self-development. 930 in bed reading a book. Good. 10:00 1015 lights out, lights out.

00:29:03:21 – 00:29:26:07
You'll feel so much better, Rick. Do that. Just do it for a week. Give yourself a week like this. Is somebody like giving up alcohol is like, just give yourself. Like I decided because I knew that I had to on boxing, Boxing Day to give up alcohol, and knowing full well that there was still a week of festivities and the, New Year's Day.

00:29:26:07 – 00:29:49:11
Right. And he's I've rather I can't tell you. I said, I'll keep on. Let me start now, because I've got you because of the blood pressure, I can't tell you. I feel like a different man. Honestly, Rick, I feel like I feel like me times five. And that's just the start of it. I can't. How? Of sleeping. Well,

00:29:49:13 – 00:30:17:11
Look, let me look, I just I wrote down the things that alcohol did to me and made me feel right. Oh. Did you? Yeah. So. So there was, like, ache and body. Yeah. Waking up at 4 a.m. in the morning, desperately thirsty. Because obviously alcohol authority, having that feeling that I'm damaging myself, that anxiety that I'm actually damaging my body.

00:30:17:13 – 00:30:42:18
Yeah. You know, not being able to work properly or function anywhere near my, capabilities, you know, my relationships, suffering with my kids, not the the relationship. Good. And with the wife is not a problem. But when you're running at 50%, how much how present can you possibly probably be? Yeah. I'm. I'm just like, you get, when you're hung over, you get bit, agony and.

00:30:42:18 – 00:31:06:01
Yeah, no frustrations and stuff. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then and then, and then, I've never been heavier in my life. I've never been as this I to say fat but overweight. Yeah. Like, I look at my face is puffy and I look old and I'm like, yeah, what is God? What am I doing? I'm putting the shit in my body that makes me look and feel like all of these things.

00:31:06:03 – 00:31:28:14
Plus I worked out I was I'm free cigarettes and alcohol. I'll save about eight grand a year. Chewing cigarettes are like nearly £20 a packet. I was buying one of them every other day. I'm spending about £79 on one a day, but more or less, more or less. If someone said to me, they said, and I realized, right, right.

00:31:28:14 – 00:31:47:18
If I'm carrying on like this from my heart, my heart pressure, right? And I'm not doing anything about it, I could be dead in eight years. I could be dead. I can be dead in less than that, probably. Rick. Right. That's the reality. High blood pressure. Continued high blood pressure is directly related to strokes and heart attack. Right.

00:31:47:20 – 00:32:08:04
If you don't, if it's undiagnosed, you don't sort it out. So if I had eight years left to live, or I could fuck all that shit off, start exercising, stop drinking, stop smoking, and live for however long I'm going to live for. But by the eight years I have 56 grand. So you've been dead in eight years? I have 56 grand in eight years and feel great.

00:32:08:04 – 00:32:25:04
What the fuck? There's no choice. Well, yeah. What do you weigh? What do you put it down like that? It's fucking wild in it. Yeah, but it just. And, And then I started thinking, well, why am I drinking? What is it that I'm. What is the the trigger that makes me start drinking each day?

00:32:25:06 – 00:32:54:23
Have you, Yeah. Have you found it? Yeah. Do you know what? Yeah, it's it's a it's a it's my body in withdrawal saying you need this. You want this. Yeah. And I'm like yeah. Do. And for the first hour it's great. Feels good. Relaxed I'm just being creative. Feels good. Second hour. Stop being creative. Your brain's not really working properly.

00:32:55:00 – 00:33:17:15
And the third. And to till you go to bed to whatever it might be. It's just chasing the initial feeling of being. Feeling good. Right? So if you can agree that the first hour of drinking alcohol or two hours is good, not it, not holistically, but in that moment is good and that's it. And that's what I've come to understand.

00:33:17:15 – 00:33:43:15
That's it. It's feeling good for two hours because I've drunk the day before worth all of those things I've just listed. And the fact that abiding by the time of 50, no, of course, isn't really. That's the most logical thing in the world. So if you just focus on the logic that when that when that, when that comes to you, when that urge comes to you and it will today and it has done every day between 3 and 5.

00:33:43:17 – 00:34:04:21
So that's that's my witching hour three and five. And then I usually get I'll get home about half, 4 or 5, start cooking dinner, open a bottle of wine. That's where that's where this comes from. So I you the drinking starts between 3 and 5:00 in the afternoon to urge the urge to drink starts then, drive where I when my brain starts going right at that time in it.

00:34:04:23 – 00:34:25:08
That's what it does. My subconscious goes about that time. The withdrawals from yesterday, started to fully kick in. I haven't drunk for whatever it is, 24 hours. Oh, no. Yeah. No, no, listen, more than that now. Yeah, less than that. Listen, that. Because it's night before and your brain goes right. Was time to start thinking about that now because you need that.

00:34:25:08 – 00:34:55:06
Remember you need that. And the reality is, is the only reason I'm feeling like that is because I drink. So it's like a circle. It's like a trap. It's like a cyclical behavior. Negative behavioral. Yeah. And, and like, legitimately the way my mind is now, I'm never going to do it again. I genuinely think, like, I think one day maybe if we don't know, I don't know when I might do it, but I can't I can't do it anymore.

00:34:55:06 – 00:35:21:01
Right. And I feel you. Are you going to go down the, route or route, as our American friends would like to say, of nonalcoholic beverages? That's triggering for me. Yeah, I know I get that. Other people do. Yeah, for them. But for me, it's not a lot of like nonalcoholic beer. A lot of people that drink beer say it doesn't taste like it.

00:35:21:01 – 00:35:40:20
It tastes like shit that don't touch it. Whatever. But I'm not a beer connoisseur, so it's not like if I. If I drank it, I would be like that. Taste that beer. I want a cigarette. Someone can get three for 100 or something. You ever see cocaine, Shane? On on. I love him. Yeah, I love it.

00:35:40:22 – 00:36:03:03
I just can't stop watching him. Yeah, he just tells mental stories about when he used to go. Like, people think you got a cocaine problem. That guy had a problem. He's got no nose left. Like the doctor said, they can't really rebuild his nose because. Because he's just done too much damage to it. Poor bastard. Man. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he could, but I just think we need these people of, like, gunshot wounds that need this more than you.

00:36:03:05 – 00:36:22:14
Yeah, and like, you think as well. They look at. Oh, he's just going to do coke again. My like we going to rebuild your nose. Yeah. I'm just going to I think they would destroy it again. The likelihood of him relapsing like you like I.

00:36:22:16 – 00:36:41:02
I'm almost certain at this stage and it's only nine days. People who know better than me will, you know, probably scoff at this or laugh at this, but I don't feel like I'll ever do it again. But it's so early on. Whereas him, you know, he's he has relapsed in the last year. So there probably is something in that.

00:36:41:08 – 00:37:03:17
But why was we talking about? I don't know if I know I had a point to to talk about cocaine. Shane, I can't remember. I'm sorry, but this is what booze does, is it starts fucking me. But it's also like for people thinking about giving up, right? You get past, I would say, from one, from day one to day five, it was tough.

00:37:03:19 – 00:37:22:20
Like day five, I had a little like cry. It was that. It was I really. Yeah. I just got, I don't know, watch quite. I got quite emotional about it. I was like, what have I done? And I don't, I don't know if I'm painting myself as a raving alcoholic. Isn't that it wasn't that it was. I wasn't like fall and blacking out drunk or anything like that.

00:37:22:20 – 00:37:41:06
But it was it was just consistent and it was consistent, but it was because it's like red wine and the bottle was relatively expensive. And it isn't white lightning. And I'm not sitting in a park. It doesn't mean it's not still an issue, you know? I mean, how to make that. Is that viewed alcohol in, in that way?

00:37:41:09 – 00:38:03:10
What's the more you pay for it, the better it is. Kind of the more acceptable is I'm not an alcoholic because I would never go and find a cheap non brand vodka and down it because I need alcohol that bad. Yeah, that that was where they were coming from. But they, they, they drank beer every single day and drink beer every single day.

00:38:03:12 – 00:38:31:16
They would probably be hungover maybe three out of seven days. And it, it gets to a point where in their environment of like them growing up, that's the, I've got to be careful in choosing my words because this person could listen to this episode and could be listening to this, and I don't want to, obviously. And we've spoken, we spoke, we've spoken about this before anyway.

00:38:31:18 – 00:38:55:09
But, you know, a product of their environment, their parents, when they were growing up, 5:00, you know, pens down, get the GMT, start cooking dinner. So it was a like a lived experience of your parents drinking in the evening and settling down to watch fucking EastEnders, the bottle of red, whatever it might be. So then you develop those habits and that's the way you live your life.

00:38:55:11 – 00:39:13:22
Now, before we go into, anything now, since is there any more things that you're for, New Year's resolution that you're always going to be? I mean, this is pretty a pretty big one, too. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what more than alcohol, caffeine, cigarettes is.

00:39:13:24 – 00:39:38:13
That as much as you can do you any? I don't know. Give it up. Something else. I'm good enough. Say my my number one thing for me. Totally. Number one is my morning routine. Improving my morning routine. Sorry. My bed. So it's my bedtime, but you get to do it at night. In the morning. Rick, could you not.

00:39:38:13 – 00:39:59:16
What the. What the. I'm not saying you do the same thing, but you can do what you you so that the time you that you feel you're losing at night time. But you you're you time you if you get up before everybody else you can have that. That's that's what I want to do. But I need to go to bed earlier before, before I do that.

00:39:59:19 – 00:40:24:09
And that's the bit that I want to get to. I want to get to a point in my life where I am waking up at night, six in the morning, and I'm up. I'm bright, I'm feeling good, and I have no problem of walking over to my laptop and start smashing for eight hours, or I have no problem going downstairs and doing a kettlebell exercise.

00:40:24:14 – 00:40:46:18
I have no, you know, for whatever it might be, just a bit of that personal time for myself to wake up and be on my own, of my own thoughts and just to kind of have that bit of me time rather than doing it in the evening and feeling worse, where also, the one that I need to this is I don't know if it's a funny one, but it is.

00:40:46:19 – 00:41:14:04
It is quite funny for me, negativity, negativity in my life. I'm not a big fan of it, but admittedly, cards on the table. I've been a bit of a hate watch of love. What you what what what what I mean by that is there are people out there on social media doing their thing, and I watch their content because I, I wouldn't say I hate them, but I want them to fail and I don't like them, and it just is.

00:41:14:04 – 00:41:34:08
This influences, influencers and there's people out that I know that I, that I'm just like, what do you mean why don't like, why do I, I know it's like when I said, I said on Chris on Boxing Day, I said, boys on me, get off the alcohol. And I said, and they said, what? What? For a few days?

00:41:34:08 – 00:41:53:14
And I was like, no weeks. And you put a little smiley emoji with a like Pinocchio nose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did I at the time I was like really vulnerable. And I was like, why? Why have you done that? Yeah, I did you do that? Because at that time I would have thought, there is no way that you're doing that.

00:41:53:16 – 00:42:11:23
And at that time, for me, but we had bought it, you know, I didn't know. Is this bad? I didn't know it was so. But like, it was, it was as severe as how drunk you'd been, the blood pressure and that you were actually like, do you know what this is? The line in the sand that I don't want to do this anymore.

00:42:12:00 – 00:42:35:07
I thought it was, that's the thing you don't know. Should I should you be out that way? At first, yeah, I probably will continue to do that, because that's just who I am. Yeah. And, And you, you can't read everything through WhatsApp and obviously thinking about that, that is a terrible thing. But at the same time, I probably still would have done the same thing.

00:42:35:09 – 00:42:55:14
And I'm sorry, my, I didn't mean I didn't mean to make you feel bad, but, you know, it's like when it's one of those times, you know, like, if I say, I'm going out with the lads and I'm not getting up to no good. Yeah. Or whatever. I'll see you in the garage and then, you know, I'll see you at someone's kitchen table 3:00 in the morning.

00:42:55:14 – 00:43:12:01
Might not be. That is as far as men like. And it says here, missus. I just got out for a couple now. Full. Well, this is going to, if you're honest, with your Mrs. or your partner or whoever it might be, and just say I've gone out with the lads, you know. Yeah, yeah. I'm probably going to go to one of them ones.

00:43:12:03 – 00:43:36:16
Yeah, I understand when you say I'm just buck up or you take away back something like that, and then you don't, and then you're in the garage at 3 a.m. that's. You can understand what I get, right? Yeah. Yeah. And and I do understand. Yeah. So I am going to be giving up my, my hate watching. So there's a, there's a few people that I thought I hate watching, I'll tell you after, but, you know, you know what?

00:43:36:16 – 00:43:59:05
People just it's like, they just fly up, you know, is of just, like, they just annoy you, but you just can't stop watching their stuff. And why? I'm like, really? I've never known this about you. Yeah. It's curious about there's probably about three, 3 or 4 people, but I'm just I'm just going to not not, follow them or, whatever it might be.

00:43:59:07 – 00:44:31:06
And then obviously the, self-development, we have to be a better father to try to be a bit more understanding, a bit more listen in and a bit more, not get frustrated as quickly just to kind of try and take myself out of a situation where I would say something that would be hurtful, or do something that'd be hurtful over the ocean, a more positive person then spread that positivity.

00:44:31:08 – 00:44:51:21
Yeah, yeah, pretty much pretty much. That is, that's what I'm that's what I'm going to be doing. Now, there is a person I've mentioned this person on the podcast many a time before Mel Robbins, and she is kind of like a self-help podcast. Yeah. And she does she does loads of stuff like this. And you can look crap.

00:44:51:21 – 00:45:18:00
She's she's massive, but she posted something on her Instagram and I will put it in our description of the podcast, which you can have a look at now if you want to go back and look at things in your life for New Year's resolution or anything, she basically just plots out these things. What are the people, experiences and commitments that created positive feelings in 2024?

00:45:18:02 – 00:45:36:14
So you write a list of all those positive things, all the good stuff that happens and the commitments that you made, all the good stuff, what other people experience and commitments that triggered negative feelings and energies from your memories in 2024.

00:45:36:16 – 00:45:44:18
So you've got a list of that stuff. What did you learn about yourself over the past year?

00:45:44:20 – 00:46:09:10
What are you going to start, stop and continue to do for 2025? And then after you've got all that information you can then, right? You don't have to go, right. So if it's for example, we spoke about alcohol and you're not going to go from or it might be hard from day one, I'm no longer drinking alcohol, I'm going cold turkey.

00:46:09:10 – 00:46:29:16
But you might say at the end of the year I want to get to only having a two cans a night when I got a bed. Then you make up those small bits throughout the year. In three months time, instead of having ten cans before I got a bed, I'll have eight cans, and then I'll have six cans, and then and so on, so forth.

00:46:29:22 – 00:46:53:23
It's the small step. So you put out a deadline of what you want to do and what you want achieve, and then you work backwards on making those small kind of steps to meet that main big target that you have. So I'm going to put that in our podcast description. Mel Robbins Mel Robbins podcast is amazing. Go and listen to it, but not before you've listened to ourselves first.

00:46:54:00 – 00:47:22:11
And yeah, I just want to. Yeah, I'll just end that on there. And as we're saying about New Year, New Me, there will be I'm not going to say like it's a big change within the podcast. I just think we this has been going nearly nearly a year. January the 23rd was the first episode we ever published of large anonymous is still going to be flat, and I still going to be dilemmas.

00:47:22:13 – 00:47:48:21
Is there going to be something only you know? But the themes and the topics that we discuss each week, I think we, we I know how you guys love sending in topics for us to discuss, and that will continue to happen because we we want to discuss and chat about the stuff that you send in, but also where we're going to do a couple more podcasts, a bit like flat.

00:47:48:21 – 00:48:17:08
Remember we did the part about Bonnie Blue? Yeah, only fans. And it was like Roy, where the news was kicking off about, yeah. So I would like to the way we would like to go into a bit more of, to tap into things that as, like Geist at the time. Yeah, but you know, when and relevant, like when the, joined when the, sub submarine submersible, when time was going down.

00:48:17:08 – 00:48:38:14
The Titan. Yeah. Like, we talked about it later, but when that would have been great to talk about it. As in when it happened. Like when, like the Bonnie Blue one was a good, a good time, to do something. But yeah, it's, it's like instead of just going one, you know, around the topic, if there's something going on in the news that we can tap into it.

00:48:38:16 – 00:49:03:24
Yeah. For sure. So so going forward we're going to be trying out these pots and say for instance, I'll just say it now, but the topic for next week is going to be bullying. And it's all going to be about, you know, where you bullied us as a youngster. What do you think about bullying? And a lot of people, jokingly or not, should say bring back bullying.

00:49:03:24 – 00:49:24:09
And I think there's a bit of tongue in cheek with, yeah, careful about making that choice again because, you can people come back always. I know it's really bad. Bullying is bad. It's terrible. Yeah, it is. And, through some of our lived experiences as well, because Flav and I was chatting, have I ever been bullied? And I said, no.

00:49:24:09 – 00:49:44:24
But then I came up with some examples and there was a bit of a gray line. So if you want to get involved bullying chat, send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com. If next week going through the week that there is a topic that has kicked off and that Flav and I would like to talk about that, we'll talk about that instead.

00:49:44:24 – 00:50:17:13
But all the stuff that you send in for bullying will be used in a future episode. And one last thing, if you do see any weird news stories, anything in the press or celebrity, whatever it might be that you would like us to chat about at us on social media. So if it's the anywhere at large, a non part, us will see it and we'll put it down for, a discussion piece when we're doing these types of pods.

00:50:17:15 – 00:50:45:13
And you can email us at landing on pod at gmail.com or send us a DM. So yeah, just if you see these new stories and you think it's interesting to send into us, now, we are going to be going to dilemmas and something. And you know, the dilemma is called none of my business, but I'm copied in and something only you know is tackling the bush.

00:50:45:15 – 00:51:12:13
So we're going to go to dilemmas right now. Oh, just, just Tira, you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad cause pain will destroy you. Are you aching in your soul, alone in your flat? Please talk to Vicky offline. Yeah. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to play like you're safe here to get nice and warm between Vicky.

00:51:12:13 – 00:51:18:07
Your plans.

00:51:18:09 – 00:51:41:15
A friend of mine has been coming to me about her relationship problems. Which is fine, because everyone needs to vent sometimes. She asked for advice, which is cool, and I try to keep it unbiased and helpful. But she's been telling me about this cute guy at work. And I'm not going to lie, I'm very concerned about her behavior towards this guy.

00:51:41:17 – 00:52:05:08
I do feel a little uncomfortable when she tries to talk to me about him, but I just keep an open mind. I know I probably should tell her boyfriend, but I just don't want that kind of arc in my life. Also, I don't think I'm close enough to deliver this kind of news, but on the other hand, I do feel like this is really shitty thing to do to someone.

00:52:05:10 – 00:52:37:06
What should I do? One none of my business to have a serious one with my mate. Three tell the boyfriend for anonymously. Tell the boyfriend. So she her mate basically has been confiding in her about her relationship, but she's like letting on that this, this, this, this dude at work that she likes. She she's going to cheat on on him.

00:52:37:06 – 00:52:42:13
Yeah, yeah.

00:52:42:15 – 00:52:59:10
It's a tough one. I mean, I like to say that I would, I would get involved, but the reality is I just, I wouldn't and I just get on with my life. Yeah, that's the reality I think. But if the best thing to do would be to talk to your mate, just go look what you're doing. And this is our water.

00:52:59:10 – 00:53:31:04
Like, if you don't want to be your boyfriend, then do the right thing and split up with him and then you can pursue this other thing. But just kind of shagging love a bloke probably ain't the one. Yeah, but, blokes kind of feel like, you crush him, you could fuck him up. Yeah. And it's it's really tough because you, like, I always feel like if I know something, I would feel better if I tried to do something about it.

00:53:31:06 – 00:53:54:01
Now, I'm not saying go and tell the boyfriend or anonymously tell the boyfriend, because at the end of the day, I don't think that is any of your business. But at the same time, you want, a clear conscience. And for me, that would be saying to said friend, look what you're doing or what you plan to do or what you're alluding to isn't fucking cool.

00:53:54:03 – 00:54:15:15
If someone did that to you, how would you feel? If you don't want to be with this guy anymore and tell them if there's a problem? Yeah, yeah. Engineer a future where you're not, in him. You don't have to tell him immediately, but work on it and, you know, just. But the last thing you want, these guys just shag some other bloke just because I don't know what he's giving you the validation.

00:54:15:15 – 00:54:40:15
You're not getting a home or. I don't know what the problem is. I'm whatever it might be. But cheating is not the one man. Nuh I yeah, I mean, like, when you're the thing is as well. Like, if this person like this person is your mate, right? And if they're cheating on their fellow who they're, they apparently love or have been in a relationship with rather long, whatever it might be.

00:54:40:17 – 00:55:09:02
I always feel like that's like their low a common sense question. And what does it mean to your friendship as well, how low they are to you? I always just find it a bit like, I don't know, cheat is that they're just not. They're not, they're not good people, not typically, you know, I mean, there's reasons for, that some people might cheat and it might be that they're not fulfilled at home or the they're scared of breaking up or things just happen.

00:55:09:04 – 00:55:31:18
But yeah, I mean, there's nothing positive. Same way we talk about smoking. There's nothing positive going to come away from cheating apart from a momentary fix. Yeah, exactly. So I go, yeah, go chat. Go and chat to your mate, lay your cards on the table and then at least you have done your bit. She's not gonna listen to you like, the minute that she gets an opportunity to get a ticket.

00:55:31:19 – 00:55:56:01
No one's looking. She's going to do it. Yeah, regardless of what you say. But your conscience is clean, then I don't think you tell the tell to partner. It's not your business, really. But you can talk to, or the the the the last one anonymously. Tell the boyfriend. That's that's like dogs, man. You can't you can't really think that, but it's your you're the fact that you're you're in the right, you know, your mind space is currently correct.

00:55:56:07 – 00:56:04:21
Pretty great. All right. Yeah. We are going to go into something only you know.

00:56:04:23 – 00:56:12:10
Why? Something, you know, you.

00:56:12:12 – 00:56:38:07
Tackling the bush? I've been a gardener for eight years. I'm 27 now. I have a client who's been with me for three years, ever since I went out on my own. Now, this fella might possibly be the worst client you can imagine. I've been called a slave, a worthless tradesman, and many other awful names. You might think, why am I still doing this garden?

00:56:38:09 – 00:57:08:23
The answer is very simple and easy. Number one, for some reason is an excellent Christmas tipper. Number two, I'm sleeping with his wife. His wife and I started this affair around nine months ago when he went away on a business trip, and she invited me in for a cup of tea. When it was raining, she started saying that she was unhappy, etc. I suggested that she needed to go out and have some fun with her friends.

00:57:09:00 – 00:57:30:23
Being unsure how to deal with the invite others receive, and at the time she did. And then a few days later, she asked if I would go round and put up some shelves for her and I agreed. One thing led to another and nine months later we are still shagging now. I take great pleasure knowing her husband in brackets.

00:57:31:00 – 00:57:50:05
Don't feel bad for him because he's a cunt. Is paying me to do some in out with his wife every week. Cut the grass, we need the beds, then tackle his wife's bush. And that is something only I know.

00:57:50:07 – 00:58:08:07
By, Well. Oh, we just said cheating, but it's no good. No, no, it's like something out of an 80s porn movie, isn't it? Yeah. And and it's. What I was thinking is like, she went out of her mates and a couple of days later is. Can you come round and sort myself that it's like that.

00:58:08:07 – 00:58:39:10
They probably going away the girl and just said, oh yeah, see if you can get round to do something, fix, fix the washing machine, fix a tumble dryer, and give her a large portion. But that's crazy, right? Next week we are going to be talking about bullying. So if you have any stories that you encountered when you were younger, send them in or anything else that you want to share on bullying, send it into lads anon pod at gmail.com.

00:58:39:12 – 00:58:58:20
And also if you see any interesting bits of news while you're surfing the web, don't forget to add us at Lad's Anon pod and we will discuss it on the next pod or next couple of pods. Until then, we will see you on Monday.

00:58:58:22 – 00:59:22:06
The night hazy light band of brothers playing tunes high as quite midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music are. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside, we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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I'm sick of Gary Barlow, son. Now, I don't care how massive is. And I'm going to choke. Stunned. It's bad. Oh, right. Is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't even in the first few were good. Yeah, I've had enough the first couple of days. Among the best I've ever had until I loved it. But it's done. They want to see no more pictures of the perspective of Gary Barlow being really small.

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Okay, but I understand the joke. We know he's he's a big lad, that it is matter how big he is. How is he that big? Why is he that big? What's the point? How is he feeling about all this? He must be devastated. I don't know. He he must know. He must look when he's having five eyes and he's thinking, why am I so big?

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Look, we got, we know some big boys that we. We got Big Bear Bowman and Big John Bass. Yeah. So I'm a big fan of big men. As people know, it's a more. We need more big men. If anything. Like, in general, big men have more uses. The little men. Oh, I don't know about that. Well, we don't we don't scurry in places anymore.

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Rick. You know what? Those are done.

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Is they scurry.

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Well, what can you do, you little scurry?

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I can fit into tight spaces. Good. Well, you said you wanted to protect, like. Yeah. The, Did you see the news that Russia have deployed, 10 to 12,000 North Korean soldiers in the war in Russia and there's a problem on the front line. What's that? In what? Lack of food? No. What bullets? Lack of munitions? No no no no, the apparently the North Korean soldiers are gorging themselves on porn, gorging yourselves.

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It is. I just said when I read this article, because in North Korea, the internet is highly restricted. Yeah. Of course. So they've come to Russia and it isn't. And the first thing they've done is let's go get some porn. Look, they may be North Korean, but it's still bloody blokes at They are making. Of course they are, mate.

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Can you imagine? Because they're a bit like porn back then between like a mythical thing that happens in other countries, not where we are. And there is no way that they there's no conceivable way that they would understand the volume of the how much there is, how the you will never run out and you could watch, you could watch.

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There is no chance you can see all of the porn. So imagine their little minds blown. And I say little actually compared to given how much information is restricted from them. Yeah, their understanding of such things as pornography would be limited. And so that's what I mean by little mind. I just have this imagine it, I have this image in my head that they're doing drills and they've got a couple of tanks lined up and they're like, right, the first tank, you'll go on my first visit of the second tank, you'll go on my second whistle free.

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Two what? The tank moving. Why don't you go and have a look to see what's happening with the tank? White, white. They go in, and as they lift up the hatch, there's five North Korean lads just absolutely fapping the shit out of each out of each other. And I. There's just so much porn. They don't know what to do.

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Thrashing around in this tank that's. Get off of it! Stop it, stop it, stop it! Oh, at the time. Otherwise I'm telling Kim Jong UN about this boy. Or what? What the jacking is. Cos it might, because it would cross my mind very quickly. I've got to go back. What is nothing worse. I try and get it all in now.

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Okay, go get it all in. And at the end of deployment, run away. We can't what's been exposed to it. Go back to a life of none. The soldiers are exhausted because they've they've had like nine wank today. They're just the energy has been sapped because of just how much the fucking. Yeah. Twisted one of the ref. Wrist, wrist.

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Fuck. You know the little buggers. Oh, just, just. On them night. Hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes high as quite midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Banzai! We like to speak and yeah. Times time.

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Well, Premier just cut out the the right. Oh I'll let it is okay. The night hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes high is quiet. Midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Lover music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Banzai. We like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains.

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Brothers. Hello and welcome to lads Anonymous is episode 43, a podcast where two best mates of over 20 years invite to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice or handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot.

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How's it going, Flav? It's good. It's like you remember how good it felt to find your first porn mag there. They're living through that now. They're like, this is mate. I was thinking the exact same thing. Well, what do they do back in North Korea? Because, like, we had mags found in parks and hidden places. That was our first.

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No one's given to it. No, no, no chance. But what? I'm actually literally grooving pornography. I think they've got good old school, like, catalogs and stuff like that. K's catalog make their version. K's catalog is, That was like the dream for me, because you'd be looking at it and you're looking at the games, and then you go, maybe.

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So look at the underwear section. Yeah. It's, Quick, look at the bra. Oh, there's bras. North Korea forbids the possession, production, distribution, importation of pornography. This is punished harshly by the government. Nevertheless, pornography is widespread in the country because people secretly import it or locally produce it. The possession of it first became popular amongst the elites in the late 1990s.

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Wee Kim Yong was the leader of the country. High ranking political and military military officials were the most active consumers of pornography. Today, pornography is sold openly on the China North Korea border. Despite the government's attempt to curtail circulation, most of the content consumed in North Korea is produced outside of the country. If a specific part of it being Chinese bootleg recordings of pork poor quality.

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A locally produced pornographic, pornographic pornographic film typically involves nude or scantily clad women dancing to music, knowing that no no no no no no can you imagine having to drive to the border just to get porn? Yeah. And and it'd be like copied porn as well. A film of a film. Yeah. Someone filming a TV of porn and no one else.

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Yeah. And no in-house. God, man, that is, that's miserable. That is. Just let them have it. Why is it banned? What? No, man. I don't know where they want to control you when you want to be sexually is restricted in the conservative North Korean culture. Ricky. Some defectors say that the lack of sexual education in the country results in young people learning about sex through pornography, and also that adults watch less pornography than young people.

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Showing an interest in pornography may make one subject to the country's mass surveillance network anyway. Well gives a shit. Yeah. Onwards, Onwards onwards. So? So last week I floated the idea of doing a a quick 30 minute podcast on a Thursday as, addendum. I think that's how you pronounce it. A part two, an overspill to Monday pods where we would focus on your stories that you send in because we get quite a lot in the email and we just can't get through everybody's stories that they want to share.

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So we want to give you guys a voice so that you can share your stories. And, you know, our wonderful community can hear what you guys have been up to and that you're kind of side on the topics that we discuss. There was a Spotify comment that came in, what it said name suggestion, Ricky's midweek blast off. I love that he said that.

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I said I can't, I can't remember that day. But my suggestion was just going to be something quite easy though. That's that's the name The Overspill, though, of all the hangover shit. But what I do, and I want to see what other names people come up with. All right. This could be quite fun and if that would be top.

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But, you know, it could be fun. This it could be fun. Yeah. I don't think is going to get topped. But if you want to send in your suggestion for the title of the second pod, that would come out on a Thursday, the 30 minute blast off lads, anon pod at gmail.com. And we could, we could put the best two in a hat or best four, and we'll do a little vote up on Insta or something like that, and then you guys get to pick what it is called.

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That's good as hell. Yeah, it's it's good for casual like comment for comments. Rick. Yeah, another tick tock. One declined quickly. I know I should do this off camera, but how do you reply to them? Because that's what doing it inside. You have to go in the Spotify backend. Yeah, yeah yeah. Leave it, leave it. Talk about left.

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Yeah. It's. As always, I, we are always trying to grow, Instagram and TikTok. If you're on either of those platforms. Come on. Give the lads a follow lads anon pod and you will see we often clip up video, the video sections of the pod and they are posted daily. So if that's something that you'd like to see and head over and come give us a follow.

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Now let's jump in to today's topic. Straight off the bat. Today's topic is OnlyFans. Now, if you don't know what OnlyFans is, is a short description. OnlyFans is a platform built for creators and fans. More than 3 million creators have used OnlyFans to connect with fans and to monetize their content safely, securely and on their own terms. It's most known for its adult content creators and adult content like porn, sex, topless pictures, whatever.

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OnlyFans creators own 100% of their content and keep 80% of all earnings. Now. At the moment, there has been two specific adult content creators that have been all over social and, very much a talking point on a lot of podcasts and stuff like that. And these two content creators are called Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips. Now, there are other content creators out there, and we will go into the the different types of content creators.

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But I just wanted to I mean, there's some crazy, crazy stuff that is that's coming out and I just wanted to get your I just want to have a chat about really what what what what I'm going to do is I am going to be like the wrestling Royal Rumble, as we're discussing, I'm going to drop in another little kind of quotes or facts and just see where it's at, see where it takes us.

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Now, I think, what, what what but Bonnie play. Yeah she is she's from Derby. She's she's 25. She was in a long term 25. She was in a long term relationship from the age of 14 to 24. And she set her body count from then was five. One year later, she estimates her body count from between 600 to 1000.

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She honestly doesn't know. So that's within a year. That's a lot of, Dick. Yeah. Right. Is okay. She earns a six figure monthly salary, is quoted as $540,000 a month. That's what she's that's that's what she's earning. So that's I mean, any comments? Well, no. Someone's giving me for my much. Did you say a month, $540,000.

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I think I'd take a thousand dicks for that. Yeah. Wouldn't you? Well, I mean, it's half 1 million pound Rick a month. What? Oh, sorry. You've got your integrity. That's good. But join your integrity on. You know, I'm. I'm more I'm I'm more deliberating on whether to take a thousand dicks. Can we not just say, like, I'd sleep with a thousand women?

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That. Would that be like, I. I didn't know. Okay. Now, no, I've anything, in relation to, the, you know, you're not committed. So. Yeah. No, I give me a thousand dicks or nothing. Yeah. Look, would you, would you take a thousand dicks in a year for a, let's say let's what's. So we talk about 12 million pound a year.

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She's making a dollar, 12 million pound dollars. Half that goes to the tax, man. That's $6 million. I think I could take a thousand dicks for a year. For 6 million pounds? Yeah. It's not going to kill. No, it's not going to kill you. Ricky, listen to me. Yeah, I know, I know, but I just I thousand 6 million pounds.

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You will be set for life. What we going to do is are. You've got to. What are we talking about? Four dicks a day for for six a day for. No, no, not even for dicks a day. Three dicks a day. Morris. Three and a half. Three and a half dicks a day for a year off for about a week.

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You'll be used to the dicks. Yeah, you would, but I'd like it. There has to be some kind of element of the I want to do this. I mean, this bunny policy. And the other lady, Lily Phillips, they have gone on record to say how much they love sex, their sexuality. They're all for it, even off camera, when the day of shooting is done, they still get more dicks.

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Still like it's still going on there. Like, even though the cameras aren't rolling. I want more. So I know this isn't. This is. The thing is, this isn't new. It's been treated as new. Like this Bunny blue has been like she's been blackballed by the community. Isn't she? Like she was on who's the. This guy Barry does a podcast.

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Really popular. She's very open. Very funny girl. You know, this could the part the reason why I podcast is so popular is because of her personality and how funny she is. And this sex is talked about openly and she's got she's getting a complete pile on in the last couple of weeks because she had this bunny blue woman on her podcast.

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That's right. Because people are like bucking against the content that she's making that. Hang on a minute. It's okay. It's okay for girls to create pornography on OnlyFans. But just not the way you're doing it. And what happens is, is that as men, we know that there's all kinds of pornography out there, and it's been that way for a long time.

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So the vast majority of us, I don't think are shocked by the fact that she's making content like that. There was a lady called Annabel Wong. I think that's correct. Who made a it's really fucking fucked up and sad story. And a lot of the this in fact, could be a fucked up and sad story as well, because no one is doing someone completely sound and well rounded and put together.

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Isn't shagging the thousand men or women in a year. It's just not not normal behavior. So something must be up behind the scenes. But Annabelle was she made up? She was sacked like, 300 men in a day or something like that. Maybe less. 100 men in the day. One session. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Didn't make a fucking penny from the pornography she made.

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Oh. Nice. Yeah. Just on Wikipedia, the first 100 words tell you everything about it. It's pretty grim, but what I. What I don't understand is why she isn't accepted. And everybody else, it's like, oh, this is empowering for young people to be able to monetize their own body, like go, go her, go them. But then when it comes to Bonnie Blue, because she sort of boastful about it, it's almost like, oh, we don't like that.

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And GK Barry's catching strays because she platform or something. That's that's exactly it. So GK Barry like like you said, a very popular podcaster, huge platform. And the boy she is getting he is because she has platformed this Bonnie Blue so that she has this kind of voice in what she's saying, which can reach thousands of people. And it can be impressionable on young women to say if she's doing that, then I want to do that too.

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If she's making six mil, then I want to do that too. It's inspiring to in a world at the moment in the world it might where it's, get money as fast as you can, as much as you can and get out, bring your kids up, bring your kids up there. If they if they're if they are influenced by Bonnie Blue and they think like, what I want to do is now go out and sell my body, that that's a failing of the parents, in my opinion.

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That's some big words. Well, I mean, to me, I don't know how I how is anybody looking at Bonnie began. Yeah, that's what I want to do. What kids are doing that is kids, potentially been are if they don't have a constructive environment that they've grown up in. You know, if that's in that instance, it's pretty, it's pretty grim.

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But what about her? What's happened to her to make her blow up? Because that's that's she don't behave the way she's behaving. If something hasn't happened to her previously to be that sexualized and don't know, maybe it's a lot of a lot of sex in it. Maybe wrong, but I understand. Well, GK Barry can't talk to this person because some kid somewhere might be influenced by it.

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Actually, go fuck yourself. She can talk to whoever she wants to. It's like, that pisses me off about this. Like Rogan can't talk to the people he wants. He's going to get canceled because he's he's platforming people with extreme ideas or whatever it might be. We don't want to hear from them, but it ain't up to you. Some people might want to hear from them.

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It's like it pisses me off that ideology, that way of we will only allow you or want you to speak to people that we agree will want to hear from. Yeah, it's up to him. He's created the platform. She's created her platform. She can talk about it. Just don't listen to it. Make you stupid TikToks or don't listen like this.

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It just pisses me off, Ricky, about this sort of element control. Who can can't speak in a free society is bullshit. No, no, I, I totally get that. I totally get that. Here comes, a wrestler, 122 students in three weeks, and she's been to places like Cancun, Australia and England. And her niche with that is shocking. Barely legal students who say that this is bunny blue.

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This is what she's gone after. Oh, just barely legal students that are 18. And when you were saying about the boastfulness is that she's taking their virginity, and that she shagging that the, you know, university students, she's 24. Yeah. So, you know. Sorry. Yeah. 25. 25. Yeah. When you say barely legal, that's two years ago, just barely legal.

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Is it is two years. It must. Whoa. Is that what she calls it? That's what she calls it. All right, that's a problem. The term barely legal is weird that it is weird. Now, here's a little, a fro kind of bit of a dynamite throw in there. When men are looking at porn, the category of barely legal teens or teens and stuff, I know we we wouldn't.

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Me and you old men would. You know, not looking at that. Yeah. Look at everything. All of it. All of it. And but but that is, that is a category in. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so why is it different that when she's mark in it is barely legal. The difference is that women aren't predatory men are I, I'm not.

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This is the perceived notion of what we're so minute. Yeah. You know in terms of aggressive sexual acts and, you know, rapes and sexual assault with men and women. Right. Whereas in her instance, she's a woman and it's the roles reversed. You don't really worry generally typically about predatory women, but there is there is a pedophilic culture inside, you know, like every so, every so often, every few months will be a story in the paper about teachers that slept with her students who were like 14, 15.

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Yeah, we all go, hey, grasses, why would you bother? Like, I mean, looking back at what she, my teacher. Oh yeah, we say that, but, 14 I'm not sure I would have liked it, you know? I mean, I think I would have been scared. Yeah, yeah, 100%, you know what I mean? If you hadn't put on put onto you by a woman at 14.

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Yeah. It's kind of like a bit reductive for men to go. Oh, yeah, totally. One spoil it for the others. Like a grown woman shouldn't be having sex with a 14, 15 year old boy. You know, I, that doesn't even need to be said, obviously. But the point is, what I'm making is there is there is something that exists where that is happening, where women are being predators towards young boys.

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But it was the that's why it's less the still weird thing to market something. And she's being effective in how she's marketing it because of how successful she's being. But she's placed in the self quite dark area. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And this is why the.

00:24:09:06 – 00:24:39:15
GK Barry got a lot of heat and for platform in body blue was because of the barely legal 18 students smashing for 122 students in three weeks. How many is irrelevant, isn't it? How how many is around? How do you see it? I mean, if they're if they're 122 and they're all students and they're all like young boys that young boys, their 18 year old men.

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Yeah. Students. Well, was the real school or not if they're 18. Well, I mean, it's a bit more impressionable when they're a she's using the word paralegal and students, right. Yes she is. Yeah. Right. So that said that it does have to come into. But when you said young boys then that's you can't call them an 18 or a young boy because that's suggesting.

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Yeah okay. Young man. Wrong. Lakmal. Young man. Yeah. Young man. But and so, so why a g k power is getting a lot hate and platforming a lot of women. Well, a lot of people are coming out and saying that she is. I mean, they're calling her a nonce, but if they're legal, the legal, but they all call your what they their legal flow to cloud up to something very easily that they.

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Pellegrinelli you, Oh, fuck it out, I guess I take it, predator, predator, predator says come up in a lot of the conversation that she's being very predatory with the students and stuff. Like, there's even been a petition because she's from Derby, but she works in Australia a lot, and I think she spends most of her time out in Australia.

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And there's been an online petition for her visa to be canceled, and it's been signed by over 20,000 people, which is I, you know, people called her name. It it's, notorious Brit porn star Bunny Blue is banned from Australia. I don't want to click on the link to some the sun. The other day that I'll never get out of that website.

00:26:24:15 – 00:26:37:03
Well, I, I'm with the pop ups now. Yeah. Women who slept with 30 men in one night to educate virgins. Students says parents should be thanking her.

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Shouldn't the wind up well, again? There is a bit in this. What? I will, I'll get into that. So another wrestler has come out. Is this come down? She she posed to her only fans a time and I location and there's a queue of men waiting to bang her. In one of her videos, there are family members queuing up to have a go.

00:27:05:07 – 00:27:26:11
What? So like so like fathers, sons. Oh, not her family members? No, no, I prefer Jesus Christ. I don't know what he's talking about. Yeah, that would have been bad. But yeah, it's like a father and a son will be there together. Yeah, but she said she's never. She's never done them at the same time. But the place does have a lighten the line.

00:27:26:11 – 00:27:44:11
Yeah. But one of the quotes was, that when she, she didn't say which one, but when she'd been with one of them, there were still fluid from the previous, My lord, can I come? And then can I ask you a more serious question here, Ricky? Yeah. Go for it. Yeah, I'll get it. She's fucking men, all right?

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She's banging loads of. What does he say about us? What does he say about society and what people actually willing to do under the covers? Because between me and you, are we going to queue up and enter a woman who's just been come in 50 times? No. Even with a condom? No. Why? How how is it? It's like something only you know.

00:28:10:02 – 00:28:33:08
That's what it's like. There's 100 people who've done something. That's something that should appear in something. Only you know, this this episode. Yeah. It is. Is it striking to me that anyone would even go near that room? Like if she just said, like, one person turn up and we'll make a video. That's fine, I think not. Hundreds. Yeah.

00:28:33:09 – 00:28:53:08
I mean, no, no, I mean there's hundreds. And, I have seen the videos online where there are like a queue of people and she's filming them and says, like, is these faces on it blurred, blurred out. But I've seen a couple with actual faces and they're like, they're like, okay, show my face. I don't give a shit.

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They ain't. And then she goes up to them and she's like, oh, what number? You? And they're like, oh, I think I'm 12 or something like that. And what are you going to do to me? When I get in that, I'm going to destroy you. And it's like, oh, my Lord, May it's fucking honestly, it is.

00:29:11:07 – 00:29:38:03
I've never seen anything like it in my life. But it is obviously it's it's being spoken about by a lot of, a lot of people. So again, that another one that comes in, like you're saying about the gangbang, that's, I think her record is 23 people involved in this gangbang. I mean, that's too much in here.

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Yeah. Horses is what, way too much. And a lot of this again. Blowjobs with no condoms. There's a lot blowjobs in the world. It's it's. Yeah. You got to do the the beginning bit to get it go in then. Yeah. The in it you know and it goes yeah, yeah. So there is a lot of things right that we've, that I've just said a lot of bombs that I've dropped.

00:30:09:24 – 00:30:48:23
Now she has recently come out in an interview and said not she hates sex. I think fatties now she has said that she purposely reads the negative comments and uses those comments to fuel her videos like rage mate. Yeah, so she'll title her videos Barely legal students. Yeah. Or, 700 gangbang, whatever it might be. The more shocking, the more clicks, the more money.

00:30:49:00 – 00:31:15:04
Yeah, that's what she's interested. Marketing. Yeah. And so she, she's she's she's kind of like the, the Steve Bartley of the, of the OnlyFans world. She, she knows exactly what's pushing people's buttons and she's just going ten toes into it. Yeah. So if look, her reputation is in tatters. Right. It's never going to be repaired. Just double down ten toes.

00:31:15:06 – 00:31:42:02
Right. Because she can make a lifetime's worth of money in 12 months and then disappear and go off into the sunset. Sunset. Change her hair. Maybe a little bit plastic surgery or just dress differently. No one will ever know who you are, and everyone's just still angry. But she is rich and minted, like 6 million pounds. If she's taking that home and she does it for two years, 12 million.

00:31:42:04 – 00:32:04:01
Just enough to live on the amazing lifestyle and what, what what does she really have to be regretful about, presuming she hasn't, you know, got Aids? And even now, as discussed previously, Aids is better than diabetes and loads of people are still eating sugar literally every day. So if they're allowed to eat sugar, sugar, she's allowed to do what she did.

00:32:04:03 – 00:32:37:21
Yeah. That's true. What about, if she has children and they, you know, like, your child finds out that they've slept with over a thousand men, will they they will, they will. Yeah, they will find out. Yeah. I mean, that's not great. I mean, this is the thing we've only fans as. Oh, and there's a wider issue here with like like Bonnie Blue's an example, but there are hundreds of thousands of women and men who you've got OnlyFans accounts whose content is now on the internet forever.

00:32:37:23 – 00:33:08:08
And a lot of these people, a lot of these so specifically young, I mean, men, society views them differently with young women who are making decisions at 21 that they wouldn't make at 40. And there's a lot of life in between 19 and, and 40, and you change a lot during that period. You might want to have children or a family, or you might fall in love with someone who finds out about this stuff, and and rightly, you know, they have a right to walk away.

00:33:08:08 – 00:33:27:11
If they found out that you produced lots of adult content online, it's within their right to be uncomfortable about that and walk, walk away. So you're essentially making you're putting yourself in, in positions in the future that you can't control based on that decision making. You're making an age where you're probably not old enough to probably make them for yourself.

00:33:27:13 – 00:33:57:05
You know what I mean? Yeah. So, like, if you're if you've got daughters, I've got a daughter. And she said that 20 I mean, starting OnlyFans account was a way you would apart from saying, no, you're not. On a in a wider sense, you'd be like, you don't know what you're doing. Like, I've got tattoos I had at 21, I don't, which I didn't have on my body, but they're just pictures, right?

00:33:57:07 – 00:34:28:07
I'm not been smashed up the ass. Yeah. And everyone seeing it. So it is the explosion of of interest in how popular it's become is, it's interesting. It's it's, I think even people that you used to follow on, on Twitter like girls, and then suddenly got OnlyFans links in their bio and Twitter. You're like, just know you from done Spurs.

00:34:28:09 – 00:35:10:07
Yeah, I tried it for a little while. There's a couple that tried it for a little while and that's like my fair play. Get that? I mean, you put a that's the thing. It's is obviously, you know, money rules all and it is kind of the getting it, getting in there quickly. And I feel like there is a massive part of our society where we are all, myself included on social media, and we are looking to earn as much money as possible for doing as minimal as possible.

00:35:10:09 – 00:35:39:03
So it's kind of like, in in the world of men, it's cryptocurrency, it's forex, it's dropshipping, it's Amazon FBA, it's all these other things. And you have content creators every single day. And what you're saying is you seen a scale, a map, a green tick, and it's going up and up and up and up, lads are just done free, free grand.

00:35:39:03 – 00:36:01:21
While I've made this TikTok. You can do that too, if you sign up to my private thing on fucking WhatsApp or whatever it is, telegram and so there's a lot of people out there that want to be like that or obviously want to make money like that, and they're saying, oh, fuck, if that guy a bit, I can do that.

00:36:01:23 – 00:36:27:23
But I don't think the realization is how how hard or saturated the market is already. With that, there will be people that'll be successful in it. And I think as well, when you do the crossover to OnlyFans, well, it's the guys have got, you know, forex and fucking crypto and stuff like that. You I know for, for like women it can be, I don't know, digital marketing or something like that.

00:36:28:00 – 00:36:52:01
And then you're seeing women that look like you, that sound like you are the same age as you. And there are 90 fans and they're selling pictures topless, and they and they showing you on their phone. I've made five grand this month. All I did is flop a knocker out and that was it. And you'll be like, maybe I can do that.

00:36:52:01 – 00:37:18:01
Maybe if I just get the wax out then I can pay off my student loan. I can do this. I can do that. Yeah. But I think, I mean, like so a lot of people can feel like that. They, they can jump into that where I don't think they realize what is actually, you know, mentally and the repercussions of what they're doing.

00:37:18:03 – 00:37:35:24
You know what I mean? Yeah. Also remember that when they sign up to an OnlyFans, there is a avalanche of content already there. And the trick isn't just go now and get your apps out, because there's tons of that already. There is. How well do you market it? So you need to understand or come out of a gimmick to market like Bunny Blue hasn't.

00:37:36:01 – 00:37:56:21
And that is an example of how to do it successfully. Yeah, though successfully. And I mean huge amounts of money. But you have to do something that's different and it goes back to anything. It's like any other type of content release. How do you stand out? So how do you stand? Just leave you another couple of quotes.

00:37:56:23 – 00:38:18:19
Encourages men to cheat on their wives is good for their relationship, as it's a stress release from their nagging wives and the quote here, you can come home here with your wife's whinging, look after the kids, be just sneaking off elsewhere to get pressured. If men are going to work and they do a hard day's shift, they need to be treated.

00:38:18:21 – 00:38:45:14
If their women aren't doing that, they should be listening to my advice. That's, It's not really true. I wouldn't say it, but it's it's the spot. Like, if she was there going, can you only have, like, you know, I have I mean, she's, she's saying stop when your wife with me. No. Now here I, yeah.

00:38:45:16 – 00:39:19:05
Financially. So the and again this I mean, there is a lot there is a lot, but. Oh, this is the one that I was, you know, I'm. I am no prude, but this is the one that I was kind of, like, caught off guard with. And I was like, she. So she said it's it's a shame that people have to lose their fluids into condoms.

00:39:19:07 – 00:39:49:05
So she asked the participants to empty the condoms on her face as it's a waste. Yeah. And it's, I just want to highlight here. So obviously that is, you know, if you listen to that, it's pretty shocking. Imagine the smell in that room. I may I was about to say that just common sweat and apparently, her mum is her pa and oh good help and helps out.

00:39:49:07 – 00:40:10:18
List. She's cleaning in the room. Cleaning? Of course, they don't bring cleaners in. Nothing like the mum has to sort it out. So ballocks, can you just clean up this? Come off my face, please? Because it may. Come on. I think deep down, I mean, you know, some of this is true. I'm going to say. But I think a lot of it is.

00:40:10:19 – 00:40:47:06
I mean, because there's porn stars all over the world. It's been Kim years, you know, I mean, but I just think with this, the tactics for marketing are so shocking. Yeah. And emotionally charged that in today's currency engagement and clicks is where the money's at. Yeah. And the more people that click on your content and go through to your website or go through to only fans or check out this, you know that much like you described it amazingly on our last podcast about the crazy world of TikTok, they did not listen to that.

00:40:47:11 – 00:41:12:04
Go back and listen to episode 42. But Flav explains how, the kind of how the engagement works and, why people say and do what they do on TikTok to, to garner that money. But now this is exactly the same. Yeah. Well, just quickly there's the there's our outrage. Right. There's on one hand outrage where people go and this is, this is awful, you know, terrible.

00:41:12:06 – 00:41:32:00
But by the same token, she's the people are not saying that the people that signed up to her OnlyFans and she's got enough. So she's saying, well, the people are not saying anything. Their opinions are as valuable to me as the ones that are enraged. So you can't have a subscriber account. And no, only to to, to understand that.

00:41:32:00 – 00:41:57:20
But she's she's going to walk away with a lot of money and there'll be a lot of people upset with nothing to do about it. Yeah. And the so and again with, her pal, I don't know if they are friends, but they just work in the same kind of way of marketing. So Lily Phillips and she has claimed to sleep with over 101 men in one day.

00:41:57:22 – 00:42:35:14
That was 14 hours, four minutes per man, four minutes, which is, you know, that's pretty good. Yeah. Nice. Good guy. Bloody good going. You in there in one minute, man. My, I have, I have a guy twice I don't know that is back you know. Still got my tattoo now come on let's go. And her plans for 2025 is to try and break the world record of sleeping with 1000 men in 24 hours, which equates to 42 men an hour.

00:42:35:16 – 00:43:16:14
It's going to be, Is it going slow? Yeah. I say all of this just to round up on these two. I think, obviously OnlyFans, like on everybody else, they are promoting their OnlyFans and their content and stuff like that. But I think it's been it's the shocking marketing and the playing into those emotions and using that tone of language as to say, you know, barely legal students stuff or fathers, husbands, those words are fucking well loaded.

00:43:16:15 – 00:43:46:12
Yeah. And she knows exactly what she's doing to drive. They drive those clicks and that money. Not you said 5 in 5 years time, no one's going to. I certainly might remember. I know the name Bunny Blue, but no one's going to know who she is and stuff. Yeah, she will have a history. And, you know, like, whoever the father is that, she decides to make her long term partner will have to be a very, you know, strong man.

00:43:46:14 – 00:44:12:06
And Fairfax to him for that. But it it would it would never be me. I is. But if you can't expect anyone. There's nothing fragile about a human. A man who doesn't want to get involved in that. And similarly, the other way around. But but shocking advertisement. And manipulative, being abrasive and loaded in delivering a message.

00:44:12:08 – 00:44:33:18
Advertising industry, you've been doing this for decades and decades and decades. She's just doing it herself. Like I don't agree. It. I agree with it, but I don't think that what she's doing is positive thing. I think think the world is better for her doing this, but it's not. So she's just following a pattern that's been played out a million times before, and it will a million times after us.

00:44:33:19 – 00:45:03:10
She's just the latest thing to, you know, a lot of the, a lot of the argument here is that it's damaging towards women. It's giving women like Bunny Blue a platform which contributes to the violence against women and girls. And it grows misogynistic values like those of Andrew Tate and the likes flies in the face of feminism.

00:45:03:12 – 00:45:29:05
Yeah. Yes it does. See, these are the types of glorifying of mistreating women that that, you know, that women have worked so hard for equality to be level. It's a man's world and these types of actions. And even though it's shocking marketing and we get it, we know what you're doing. It sends all of us a lot further back in the line.

00:45:29:07 – 00:46:00:12
It's benefiting you. We get that. You've got 6 million. The bank fair play to you. But by doing this, what impression is it sitting for younger males and that they now think of women again as you think really? She's pushing the needle all well, I mean she could do I personally don't want boy out there. What boy out there does it?

00:46:00:14 – 00:46:21:16
There'll be a handful, but I don't think what being out there doesn't know about porn. Porn? Up there isn't a boy on this. Or in Great Britain. It doesn't know what it is. A young man know. You can see all kinds of things on there that are as degrading to women, or more degrading swimming than sure than that.

00:46:21:18 – 00:46:44:08
I don't think really, I don't know, maybe you're right. I mean, I it's hard for me to comment because I'm not a woman and it's not the best messaging, but it's not like people are going, oh, look what she's doing. This is what something you could do as well. I don't think I don't, I just don't I, I just give people more credit than to say you're going to be they're going to be this is going to be massively influential.

00:46:44:10 – 00:47:10:06
What does it show you? You've got this woman who's obviously fucked up in some way. Yeah. And just men being men, I mean like, so she might, she may, she just may be a sex addict as well. She said she loves it, isn't it? You know, but it ain't like, isn't it a form of feminism that she's only in our sexuality and she's making huge amounts of money out of men?

00:47:10:08 – 00:47:35:02
Is this not a feminist that I maybe. I'm sure this is pseudo. No, no, but should we go? He's he's holding the power here. Her or the men? Having sex of a. Yeah. Roy. Well, I don't if I'm right, but it's not. Yeah. And I I who does have the power. Well, she she she does she, she's the one to do it or not to do it.

00:47:35:04 – 00:48:11:19
Choose to do it. Not who to do it with the money. Everything. And isn't this what OnlyFans is about? It's giving the content praise. The power rather than, somebody else. Now, before we move on, did you know that, Lily Allen has any fans I and and her OnlyFans is feet photos she has made. She has made more money by giving her OnlyFans feet photos by the streams on Spotify.

00:48:11:21 – 00:48:36:00
And obviously she gets millions of streams and Spotify. Yeah, that's that's that's what you imagine you would you be right to. Would you be right if your wife was seven feet pics on OnlyFans? Yeah, I think I probably would. I, would I do it? Yeah. Yeah. Just what is the hobby? Is this this is her face.

00:48:36:00 – 00:48:59:24
It it. No, no. Just pure, pure feet, mate. Wait. Footage. What is the foot fetish about? I don't know, what are you. So you said weird little things, man. Yeah, I it's not, it's not nothing for me. This. I found another, I registered to OnlyFans to research the part. By the way, did you tell you this is that you was giving me.

00:49:00:01 – 00:49:25:20
No, no, I didn't I didn't sign up with my name. God, I did, I did it as, lads. Lads. And on pod lads and on. But what did you sign up? What you signed up and what did. What I made is fucking rubbish, man. You also, when you go onto OnlyFans, you there's people that do free subscription so you can subscribe to them all the content content is free, but you still have to put your debit card details in.

00:49:25:24 – 00:49:47:14
So they get just to, just to confirm the security. And then when you're doing the free content and looking at the free content, these content creators can obviously send push notifications out to you and try and cool you in that way. Why don't you spend X amount on I'll give you the phone is the attraction that you've just seen is the attraction that you that you can talk to the people as well?

00:49:47:14 – 00:50:15:06
Because that's like, I watched. Yeah, I think there is Stacey Dooley Did a thing, a documentary on BBC three about OnlyFans and that, and it's the connection between is bridging the gap, isn't it, between just knocking man out to a computer screen and that should be able to talk directly. Yeah, yeah, yeah I've, I've seen similar documentaries as well where people, they earn a lot from OnlyFans because they just want to have their voices heard.

00:50:15:12 – 00:50:39:18
And they'll do like zoom calls for an hour with people and they'll just get loads of money and they just, they just getting they just chatting about absolutely nothing I don't know. And do you know anyone who's who's signed up to OnlyFans. Like who uses it. Like I can. Yes you do. Yeah. Yeah I, I, I think we, we, we know someone I yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

00:50:39:18 – 00:51:08:23
If we speak thinking about the same. Yeah, yeah is in. The, the Okay. Fair play. I've never done it and I, and I wouldn't do it, obviously I don't. Is it, is it because pornography is one thing everybody partakes in some way I'd imagine. Yeah. This is something else. Because like I'm talking about your relationship and how it might affect you.

00:51:08:23 – 00:51:39:03
So if you signed up to OnlyFans and your wife found out that you was you signed up. Yeah. And that to me is a step too far because you're you're having a conversation and communication with the content creator. Yeah. Is that do you think, is that cheating or not? Yeah. Know I swear I can't. Yeah. Yeah. That is a court and that is a, that is a gray area.

00:51:39:03 – 00:52:00:17
And whilst whilst we're on that by the way, we've had a flood of emails in for this OnlyFans episode. So I'll just ask you a direct question. You wouldn't. That is a gray area by the way. We've had loads of emails. Yeah. Listen. Right, we have had loads of emails and a couple of the emails relate to them signing up to OnlyFans and their partners, finding out.

00:52:00:17 – 00:52:27:06
Yeah, the conversation that leads onto you, apologized. So you said, no, that's fine, it's fine. So read them out. On the second part, read one of them out. Now, why are for good. Well, why will wake up one. So this is so they get they got the second one okay. All right. Well can we then at least discuss it now to a certain extent, yes.

00:52:27:06 – 00:53:00:22
So basically, one of them actually this this is, quite relative to you. Yeah. A gentleman used a family friend. Yeah. For their mortgage application. And on the mortgage application. Yeah. When it came back, was only fans. What was OnlyFans? The guy who was subscribing to an OnlyFans. And it came up on his statements for the mortgage application.

00:53:00:22 – 00:53:28:16
I think what his wife did and his wife didn't know, and he thought it should have been private towards, you know, confidentiality between the client and the mortgage. Now she's, she's, she's friends with the wife and said, by the way, I thought you might know one of one. I know that there is only fans all across your husband's statements and it really fractured their relationship.

00:53:28:18 – 00:53:54:22
Now, now there is an internet lock at home. They don't have kids, just that he's a pervert. He's not a pervert. That's what he's written. I'm reading his his, They don't have kids. It's just he's a pervert. That's what she thinks he is. Yeah. Can I just say something to him? Nordvpn.com/the fighting cock. We'll get around that look pretty easy.

00:53:54:22 – 00:54:18:19
Don't you worry about that, boy. He's actually put that in. By the way. I might. I'm a little bit in terms of selling that the NordVPN link. That is the key one that gets around parental locks. That, mate that. So you what? You got loads of those stories for the second part. Yeah, yeah I may yeah, I might have to be on that one, but I'll be fascinated to hear about that.

00:54:18:21 – 00:54:39:07
But so there's other stories like that that people have sent in. So we we're going to do the second part. I just to add on to this. Yeah, that sounds good. Just, just, just to be just to be if you're doing something that you, you, you know, you wouldn't want your wife to know about, then you know, it's probably wrong.

00:54:39:07 – 00:55:05:11
And to have all of these OnlyFans account. But then if she'd found out that he was just watching porn, would she have been these all things that that's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking, like, what is the difference between mines and porn? I don't know, I, I don't know, okay. You were saying about that conversation a two way conversation thing.

00:55:05:13 – 00:55:36:01
That's a that's weird. That's a problem. Yeah, that's the conversation is a problem. Yeah. If you're just looking at. But the thing is as well what I another thing is well if why why I suppose it is the conversation. But if you're saying if she says, Ricky, I've done this t picture for you and sending me these t specific agencies, because then we've had that conversation and I'm asking her to do so.

00:55:36:07 – 00:56:01:18
There is a relationship building. There's a connection. What if there's no communication? Then you're just looking at porn. Really? Yeah. So why? If it's just. Why a p. What I don't understand is if there's, there's almost all of the porn available out there, why are you then paying specific the one person. And that might be because you have a thing about her specifically or him specifically.

00:56:01:20 – 00:56:24:07
And that's that's a bit dodgy as well. Can you potentially damage your relationship because you have develop a false relationship with someone that because they're in they cannot play up to where all of this stuff. So you continue subscribing? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you'll be glad to know there's another email that. Oh, okay. What is the second?

00:56:24:07 – 00:56:39:20
When are we do it? I don't know, I don't know, I haven't, really thought about when we record it, how we record it, what the, what else is going to go? I think the people listening to this will be going, oh, I'd love to listen to that. And they won't be there when they listen to it.

00:56:39:20 – 00:57:10:18
And if you are like the good people that you are and you listen to on the Monday as it comes out, the Thursday following that, there will hopefully be a 30 minute podcast that will add on to this podcast that we record before we drift off into dilemmas and something only you know. Just to kind of around that bit of this that there's another content on OnlyFans who has been selling her sweat.

00:57:10:20 – 00:57:43:10
So she has a sparring head guard that she wears, and she drained the sweat off and sends the vials for 150 pounds. What she's she is made. She makes ten grand a week and she bought her first house for 200,000 pounds cash. Was I? Her name is Alexia Grace. Alexia grace. She was on this morning. That's where I saw it.

00:57:43:12 – 00:58:09:23
Don't lie. And she. She gave a vial to Ben Shephard and to Kate Daily. I think it was like. Thanks. Yeah. Did you know that there is comedians on OnlyFans, one chiefly named Kyle Donnelly? What is. He's getting his horror. I don't think it is that now. I think it's just extra video content. Extra video content display.

00:58:10:00 – 00:58:30:11
Yeah. And there's lots of other famous people on there that, dread the Matteo Adriana from Sopranos. So I think that's a bit more racy. Yeah, a bit more racy. I, I seen that instance. I imagine her because she was in Sopranos. She was always like, you know, it kind of. She sort of sexy in the day kind of way.

00:58:30:13 – 00:58:45:13
Yeah. To look at me like a little bit I. Yeah, he HD yeah. Yeah. But really. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Twins. Yeah.

00:58:45:15 – 00:59:02:14
But but she's. That was her role, right? That was the biggest role she ever had. And it was kind of it. That was odd. Imagine, I know she was in Joey, so I'm not. So she's probably the doing decent money. But that instance, she's like, well, my career is kind of drying up. Let's just start an OnlyFans and be set for life.

00:59:02:16 – 00:59:28:13
And she's yeah, doing great right? Well, if you if you could do something with any fan, would you like sir I like no maybe not Dick. Your, sweat or, jizz in a sock. It is not something like that. I don't know, I don't know if I, Well, yeah. For 6 million pound. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:59:28:15 – 00:59:51:14
But if you guarantee I would buy yoga, I'd buy your jersey. Sykes. Yeah. For sure. That 6 million pound a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think for when we're talking about money that I'm pretty, I'm pretty open a set from being rocked by 100 men. I always had a thousand. Yeah, I, I yeah. I'm not denying you get used to it, Rick.

00:59:51:15 – 01:00:08:24
You'd get used to it pretty quickly, I reckon. And then you'd have 6 million pounds. Then you get. Well, I don't approve of what you're doing. All right, all right. Okay, well, I can't do that. I can't do anything. I'll tell you what. I can do a lot with this. 6 million pound.

01:00:09:01 – 01:00:41:16
Right. The topic for next week, it's going to be competition. So this is sent in by a lad who said competition has ruined some of his relationships with, with his partners and friends. Are you competitive? Send us your stories on how competitive you've been. Have you ever kind of like, you go to the race and you know that you can sabotage the race by putting something on the racetrack, and they trip over, whatever it might be.

01:00:41:16 – 01:01:12:14
Do you compete with your family, friends, colleagues, whoever it is, and you have a competitive story? Send it in to lads. Unknown pod at gmail.com and we will read out your stories. Now we're going to be going on to dilemmas and something only you know. And the dilemma is called work on myself or on her. Oh. So, just you got an issue for a tissue?

01:01:12:16 – 01:01:41:04
You're a bitch. I can will paste you. I can, you know, solve alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky a flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve, like, your size to get nice and warm between Vicky and and. I was with my partner for six years, and last year I proposed to her and she said yes.

01:01:41:06 – 01:02:04:20
Since that engagement, it made me think about the future. Though. We love each other and I've had some amazing times together. Something needed to change. I felt like I wanted to find myself and ended up breaking up with her. We still love each other very much. We're not sure we're right for each other. However, the lass I work with is an absolute weapon.

01:02:04:22 – 01:02:28:14
I've had a little crush on ER for quite a few months. I thought that she was well above my league. Turns out, after we had a coked up night recently, she admitted to also being very interested in me. I've been working with this person closely and previously didn't see her as an item, but since my breakup I have become infatuated with her.

01:02:28:16 – 01:02:57:07
My dilemma is do I try to reconnect with my ex fiancee? Do I see how things go with this lass at work? Or should I concentrate on myself and leave them both out of the equation? What? What? When you said you broke up with his ex girlfriend. What? How did that happen? I think he proposed to her.

01:02:57:07 – 01:03:19:09
They've been together for six years, and it felt like the walls were kind of closing in. On what? They both agreed that it was over. Yeah, I think they both agreed that they should break up. And you're itching it? Yes. See what happens. Really? He doesn't seem to be thinking much about her other than the question is, should I try and work on her?

01:03:19:09 – 01:03:44:14
So I think that relationship's probably done. If you. Yeah. If we come back round, then so be it. What's wrong with focusing on this new birdy fancy? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I tend to agree. And, well, I don't tend to agree. I'm working. You work on yourself as well, but all work on all three. Yeah, work on yourself and do them by and get a.

01:03:44:16 – 01:04:14:17
Four. That's perfect. I'll take my time. Anything. But like, we've, we've answered, like, this in a previous one. But again if you, if, when you're ex, if you do kind of you do take a break and it isn't your natural inclination to go chasing after her or to get back with her, and you're doing it just because you feel like you should.

01:04:14:19 – 01:04:34:08
Yeah, probably. That's your answer there. And if you are meant to be together, then you will find your way back together and everything will be right as rain. But again. And it's. Well, give the new one a go as well. Yeah. And he actually puts down that he thinks the new one could be the one. Could be the one.

01:04:34:10 – 01:04:55:06
Be aware though, that like, coked up conversations aren't always that. Yeah. And you and you work with her shitting on your own doorstep and all that. Yeah. All right, leave it. Leave your job. Drive past bare feet some day. Mate, just crack on and see what it's like. Yeah, yeah. When you're coked up and horned up, it's different.

01:04:55:08 – 01:05:25:24
Different? Great. Yeah. It is, it is different. And then we've got something only, you know, coming up now. Wow. Something, you know. Highlights. When I heard that this week's topic was about only fans, I thought I'd send in my something. Only I know. Yes, I was gonna. I was on a lads night out a few months ago, having a drink and chatting shite all night.

01:05:26:01 – 01:05:50:18
I was in the smoking area outside when I got talking to a girl. She was a nice girl and we were chatting for a while and I said when she said she does OnlyFans for a living, having had a few to drink, I jokingly said if she needed any help, I was there. In the end it worked out and we ended going back to hers.

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I got the business done and left. They the next day I got a message asking if I was still all right with the video being uploaded. It turns out I told her she could use it for her OnlyFans.

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Now the reason this is something only I know story is because I'm ashamed of being on OnlyFans. Oh, sorry. I'm not ashamed of being on any fans, but the video she sent, I could see was two minutes and 14 seconds from start to finish. It turns out I've only been inside her for 59 seconds, and I've counted. I'm considering asking her to delete the video and let me have another crack.

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Yeah, and that is something I need. I know I get a lot of money counted. I don't know what. 51 seconds. Brilliant. You've be looking at yourself back I. Come on, man. Dug a 59 second. For fuck's sake. Fuck's sake. That is gold. That is absolute gold. And the call out from last week for everybody sending in your something 90 nice and your dilemmas.

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Thank you very much. We seem to have kind of shaken the tree and a fall. A few of the coconuts have fallen. If any of you have anything else that you would like to send in your stories, if you feel like that, we. You'd be nice. You never would be. Names. It's it's a circle of trust. So you could send anyone.

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We've never said a single name in. What are we, 40, 40, 43, 43? Not said one single name. That's how good we are, even by mistake now. And if you want to send somebody in by voice now, you can. And with this, the voice. Exactly. And just to go on some someone else sent this in as well. An email.

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That's their problem with the something only you know segment is that most of these stories are not something only, you know, because the majority consist of more than one person in the know. A true only, you know, should be completely private so that no one else knows apart from the storyteller. Otherwise it winds up being something only a few know.

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Okay, that is literally for a literary fuck yourself. You're correct. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, what flap saying go fuck yourself. No one cares right now. One. Can you? What do you think? We got enough. Enough content? Yeah, yeah. Do you think where we can pick and choose be a pedant? Do you feel like we need more out about you?

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Give us five things, you know, and then we will use those for the next five after that. To be fair to him, he actually has said money with that. So that was that was the he's a purist. Is he. Do we know this man now? We don't name that name. But what I will say is that name him that that that doesn't need to be.

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It wasn't the guy you ended up in the Holiday Inn sucking off a six year old man, was it? No. I that's a good one. That's that's probably one of the best ones, I think. Yeah. It's not to embarrass you for your best sucking up because you don't want to be rude. So if you do that one something 90, you know, and there is a few people involved, send it in anyway, send it in and we will read out.

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So the topic for next week is going to be competition. And if you have any story, send it into that anon pod at gmail.com and we will see you on Monday.

01:09:53:24 – 01:10:17:08
The night hazy light Band of brothers playing tunes. He is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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the night hazy like I know. Brothers playing challenge high is quite midnight. Waves surfing through Tuesday night breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love a music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek band is that we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what, the bond remains. Promise I'm Ricky Heath Flav T best mate one main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something only you know.

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And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going? Flat fine. We started recording this over an hour ago. We should be finishing right now. Yeah, it's been stressful. Well, I know it's not been mega stressful, but it's been like it's been a spanner to the morning hasn't it? Yeah. So my, my is low now.

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No one should have run. You should have run out and got a coffee. I got one of these detox vit hits. Oh. Well, I it's all right. It's, 25 calories per bottle, so. But swimming again. Swimming again this morning, Rick. Again. And this morning. You are fucking phenomenal. I was thinking about you and I was swimming.

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Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking Ricky could do this because you were saying, no, I don't want to go to the gym. I don't like it. I don't feel comfortable. Right. And that's fine. Lots of people don't. I don't feel comfortable in the gym either. Yeah, but swimming is, like, just loads of old people and you and no one's judging you.

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And everyone moves slowly and after, like, this is like my fifth or sixth time. Now I'm really starting to get into it now. Like, I feel, it's sort of, I feel like a, like Aquaman.

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It's like gliding through the pool. That's amazing. That's. So there's three things about swimming that I. I really like it. Not that I dislike, but the first one is I hate being cold. Well, you know, was not you jumping to a cowboy going with a negative. Rick. The pool is that I go to. It's fucking freezing. It's notorious for being freezing.

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Number two. Fucking get in there. Number two is something happens to me psychologically. I'm not sure what it is, but when I jump into a pool, it's like nostalgia rushes to the surface of all the fun I've had in a swimming pool, and I just. My arm starts thrashing loudly because I'm having fun. I'm in a pool. I'm really swimming pool.

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It must mean this, you know, this a party or I'm on holiday. Something quality is happening cause I'm in a pool and then I'll swim one length and I'm like, I'm fucked. I can't not, I can't do anything else. I will literally do one length, and I won't even be able to pull myself out of the pool because I'll be so tired.

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So what is it, Rick? You don't want to do swimming. You don't want to do the gym. You want you keep talking about wanting to lose weight. What is it? What are you going to do then? Long walks. Long walks, I like that, I like good long walks. I did like your little video. You did it. There were new and, like, houses on the canal, on the road.

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I don't know what you said. TLC or something. Do you see? What's that? Credit Union Canal, John. Very good. See you. If you know the lingo. Lingo, I don't know. I just put it together. I love it on the canal because people. Right. There's this weird kind of weather going somewhere, and there's just this unwritten rule of Connecticut.

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You walk past dog walkers in the morning and they say morning to you. Only on the canal, only on the canal. The canal. People on their narrowboat when they're getting called out for their fires and doing this, that. And the other time. Right. Morning. How's it going, mate? Yeah, I'm all right. Even if people that don't, you know, speak to people, they'll give you a little nod.

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Yeah. But you know, you know, I just thought that's one of the big differences between living in the country and living in the city is that people say hello to each other. They nod like I've nodded to people I will never see again in my life. I'll say hello to them, especially if you're on a dog walk on a canal 100% like it changes people's moods.

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They're just much more open to each other, I think. Like when you get on a canal, even if you live near the city and you're quite close to what I mean, like the rural area, right? It's not far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah. You get to the canal, you let. Yeah. Let's be nice to each other side instead of like, was like he was looking at me.

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Didn't you, didn't you meet crossbow on the canal? I did meet crossbow in the canal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He what's his name? A clerk at voice Anonymous in a line. Yeah. But, Yeah, I did meet him on the canal and one day. So we've we've kind of. It's quite funny. We've now got this relationship where we where he sends me DM's of where he is, and he's just traveling around Britain and his canal, and he's kind of a mad aqueduct.

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He's just living the life of Riley. That's that, that that is attractive to me. So what what does he do for money? He just switches your cash on hip. I don't know what he does for a living, but I know it's just him and his dog on this narrowboat exploring Britain, his dream rocking up to wherever you were.

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And I'm like, that is what a fucking life. Come on. What do you. William. Crossbow.

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Because when he invited me down to meet him on his canal boat that was in Milton Keynes. No idea. I've never met him before. Maybe. You know, I've just been having a chat, and there was a person in my head that I'm going to meet him and the canal, because you're going to swing open places will be standing, never crossed by.

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And it's just going to now be straight in the chest. Man, you never know. These situations like the goodness at your heart to to meet people and you just want to seem the best out of people. Why would you want a crossbow? You're in the chest. So I don't know. Everyone wants 15 minutes of fame today. Does it matter how they get it?

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They get one on ITV news. Yeah, central. Now it'll be the one. And so you know the BBC like local news, like the South Face. The one that's not age. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Exactly. I won't go to Newcastle. Nobody. Why or BBC Wales would know about it. Just the local news. Bedfordshire is it. But yeah. Yeah yeah.

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That pussy here in Bedfordshire is all I get banned crossbow on the crime Union canal.

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Leaves behind a wife and two kids. How high up the these drinking that story would go if you get in crossbow, right? No, I mean crossbow against my cock, but it's pretty certain it. That's that fucking you. Okay, let's let's let me give you so you. So in terms of what news this would make, you've gone for a walk, you've tripped over, you've fallen in the canal and you've drowned.

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Right? I have this ongoing fear. I have awaited, awaited jacket. Not a jacket awaited, waistcoat. Well, you can put sandbags in so it goes from five kilograms and it can go all the way up to nine kilograms. That's to help with the walking and the calories and stuff. Exactly. So when I, when I wear it, I go for my hour walk.

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When I come back, my clothes are soaking wet and I mean soaking wet from obviously all the sweat. But it's I wear it and I do. I have a little freak out. Like what would happen if I tripped and fell into the river rage next to me? What would happen if I went to say to because the canal paths are narrow?

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And I say to the this person, yeah, walk by by with the dog. And I take one step back and I fall into the canal with this weighted waistcoat. That's it. That's the end of me. I ain't getting out of that. Yeah, yeah. How much weight you got in there? 15. Ten. Well, I don't know how far it will be.

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Five kilograms. You know, weight surely can swim with an additional five kilograms weight. Trust me, I'm going to when I say, you know, it's I'm going to bring it down to. Yeah. And you'll put it on nearly a lot. That's a bit fucking no. And I've got like little hiking boots on. They say you can't swim it. I can be through.

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It's true. There is certainly in the canal. You can stand up though, honey. Yeah, I think I probably could get away with it, but I still don't panic in my head. Then a canal is like about 20ft deep. Is it not? No it's not. No, no. How do you even see? You've got two shelves. Two like small shelves that maybe it's like three feet if you stepped off into the canal.

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And then the middle bit is the deepest. So that's where the hull of a narrowboat would. That's where it go through. And that I don't know, I guess I'll probably say 9 or 10 for Oh. I don't think it's that deep. So, so just just go back to the game. So you're walking on the canal, you've tripped over a rock and fallen in on your weight, a jacket, and you drown.

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Yeah, yeah. What? How what level of news does that bridge? I think that's got to be pretty. The thing is as well. Right? Local paper. What I'm saying at most local paper. Because you know what there is. Is it, Milton Keynes, isn't it? Isn't so yeah. I think it goes bigger than that. And here are my reasons, right?

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Because if I'm wearing a white jacket and I'm under the water. Thrashing it's going to be a, it's going to be a while until anyone finds me I would be like hey what's that lady's name. He just went missing. She abandoned. She was found in the river. Oh about a year ago. And there's a big sort of.

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Yeah, yeah. Conspiracy about what happened to her. Yeah, well, she was out of work because she. She was on a work call, and she was still logged into the work call when she was by a bench. And then all of a sudden, she's missing. Yeah. What? My wife loves getting involved. Low key involved in that. So it's not involved, but she likes keeping abreast of what's going on, really?

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Does she? Right. Okay. Just like listening. She likes like she likes. Listen to it like. Oh okay. Like she loves it. She enjoys the. She doesn't like seeing everything on the face value. She she'll try and see beyond. Right. She doesn't like listening to the just the if. What are the BBC saying. All right. Now what are we really talking about is that that's that's what she enjoys.

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Do you think she's got like a little notepad where she's she's listening out for all the details and it's like, oh, I know they didn't write. It is not an internet sleuth. Oh, okay. Those guys get on my nerves fucking to investigate. Yeah, right. We should talk a bit about sleuth. Internet sleuth? But what? So what are you saying?

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And so, you know, your body's not found. For what? Like for you. Which can be it? Well, I don't think it'd be weeks. I think if you really say you, you're adding stuff every year. I can add that if I want. Right. I almost need to answer the question. If you're missing for weeks, that's national news. That's man with no previous.

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I'm trying days. I'm trying days out my series. Like a man who has a traditional family. Yeah. Who doesn't have any, drug addiction and alcohol addiction. Yeah, but isn't in any trouble. Okay. Oh, and people might like it. And then he's gone. Yeah. That. Yeah. That's that's. Yeah, it is. That's the news. Right. And then everyone's gone.

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Well what's happened to him. Is it sort of racially motivated attack. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And then they find out he's tripped and he's got a weighted jacket on. You know how angry everyone would be. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, that's the that's the truth. This is the thing with all these things and it's loose and stuff is the truth is much more boring than the, the then the ideas of what might have happened.

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The truth is, generally the most easiest way to explain it. At least the most boring. He's fallen in the country and he's got away. It could be him. That's what he said. But that was gone. Well. Oh, no reason to be in the canal. What's he doing? The cow didn't mean it. You had the boy ejaculate. Why? They had the white jacket on.

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You wanted to lose weight. Well, did he? Did he want to lose weight? Not sure. But today you've got. Oh. Like, I don't know where he is. And then you flick over to the British Muslim man wearing a jacket that looks like a terrorist jacket. Training. For me, practicing swimming in Canal Street to blow up the merchant, the navy.

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All right, so imagine all that say stuff wasn't true. You just tripped in the canal. They found your body six hours later. Dead local news that you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Herald. The local Herald. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Right. You've been it. The evidence suggests that you've been pushed into the canal late at night. Oh, you did Bedfordshire local news because that's something.

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Yeah, yeah. That is. Yeah. Yeah, I think it goes it might go a bit. I think it might go Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Northamptonshire, the three counties that I'm in. I think that's where that goes. Yeah. And right you've, you've gone to meet your friend and you've been crossbow to death. Right. You found face the the Grand Union Canal with a crossbow sticking out through your chest.

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And then with the cross by, there's a note on the end of that. Warwick. Yeah. Hahaha. You know that there was a there was a serial killer in Australia who would just just target old ladies. Oh, that's a bit of fuck. Yeah. Yeah, it's dark and the calling card was no more grannies. What the fuck? He would graffiti on the walls.

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No more grannies. After. After murdering them. It could be as well. Fuck you now this. That is. Did they find him? No, no, no. Imagine that you're your biggest bugbear in this world. You'd be angry at anything. And it's grannies that really grind your gears. Jesus, man, that goes in emergency Granny's and every bit of spray paint gets just right.

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It's no more grannies.

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Before I forget, right? Do you remember last week we put out a call out for, anyone that's connected with the O2? Tate McRae? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I didn't get a connection, but I did get this email. Okay, just want to preface this email with the facts that I am a straight male. However, I would love to go and watch Tate McRae concert.

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I really recommend you watch a few of her latest music videos or clips from her performing, and I think he would change your tune about going along. I went along with my Mrs. not too long ago, and to her discuss from the minute Tate McRae came on stage, my jaw hit the floor. I needed a bucket and mop to clean up my saliva as this half naked goddess danced and sang all night.

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If you do managed to get any spare tickets, let me know and I will happily go. Although I think I will go on my own this time.

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That is. What's a scene from raunchy on stage? Is she? I don't know, I don't know, I mean, this guy is like fully I don't I said I said as a 43 year old man, I thought, I'm not judging this guy. He might be in his 20s. It's not a bit I don't really want to watch the 21 year old girl writhing around.

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No. I the the connections and the. Because I've got obviously my, my young two who's 13 and to someone that's 20 years old is not that far away. Do you know what I mean? It's it's quite close. Yeah. It's two like ten years ago she was like 11. Yeah. I remember ten years ago, like it was yesterday.

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There's something not. Right. So I'm, you know, I just. Do you know what I mean. No. Yeah. It like, I like, kind of see Tate McRae. I mean.

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It's up to you. It wouldn't be my thing. I mean, it's just shit, isn't it? It's just. Yes. And, like, what is it that I don't want to, like shit on everyone's parade and, you know, just I don't if you like. You like what you like, all right? But it's just shit. It's shit. Music is shit. It's not even music.

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It's just marketing shit. Built a massive. It's like KSI, right? You listen to his music, he's shit. Oh, that is, that is fucking right. It hurts more records than almost every musician that's ever come out of the UK, barring a few. Right? In terms of like success, he's probably in the top 1%, 0.1% of the record sold of every musician that's ever come out.

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More less than that probably. And it's just shit. It's like these people and I know I'm sounding old now, but I'd rather be old and bitter than listen to that shit. I really I'd rather be the way I am and slightly angry than just go, this is good. Or accept what this is. It's crap. Right? And yeah, and the reason why I'm saying this is she's got this career because she had, I'm presuming like huge like KSI, he had a YouTube channel.

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The audience is already there because what they're doing now, I wonder what we'll do. I've always wanted to sing. You only should be allowed to sing if you can, but we've moved past that now. It's so Agnes at this take McRae. Well, she and x YouTubers and the fact that that. I mean, I'm hoping after, I'm hoping, you know, I get your point.

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Now. I get your point. I mean, yeah, it's just. Who is this? Girls? What have you seen in the news? That's a woman used for selfies to to to torment her fella's ex-girlfriend. But I. I did see that. So she has like so her fella, his ex, she was sending messages like bombarding her of just her video in a selfie and farting and then sending it to her.

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What is the background? I that is that's as much as I know about it. So I mean, like, that's crazy in it. The mindset of doing that, like if you were going to get the things you've got the you've got the partner, you've got the boyfriend, like why are you then going for the X? And then if you're gunning for the X, why are you tormenting them by putting that far in?

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I mean, I would love that, to be fair. If so, like a lot of people do send me long thoughts that they do as as voice notes and I enjoy them. I bloody do enjoy it. I don't, I, I don't get it. I think it's like I, like you said before like that lads sort of, you know, going away on all night together and someone's got a shit in a bath and then they know that.

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The last. Yeah. That's it. Well that's bad that, that like. Yeah. I mean when I was in my teens, younger 20s lads holiday that mode, I would have been like, that's well funny. But as a 42 year old man, I am like, that's not why did we do that? This is anyone do that? This is the article.

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As per 30th of January 2025, a woman who sent us videos of herself passing wind in a series of harassing messages to her boyfriend's ex-partner, has been given a community order. Shop worker Rebecca Evans, 25, of Mountain Street. Why, sir? Why did I have to say exactly where she lives? Like this is embarrassing and I know it's out of order.

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And this is on bbc.co.uk. This ain't like the local herald. This ain't the local herald. This is national news. But shop worker Rhiannon Evans, 25, of Mountain Street, and kind of Gwen did it or some birth place, pleaded guilty to to pursuing a course of conduct amounting to harassment, prosecutors told magistrates in the town hall. In Evans first inappropriate video, she proceeds to pass gas by placing the camera on her bottom and then passing the gas.

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She sent three more fart selfies to Deborah Pritchett via WhatsApp on the 22nd of December, the court heard, and for more the following day, showing Miss Evans passing wind, her face smiling at the camera. What did she think she was winning here? I don't know, that's what I the actual I don't understand. What is it? What was the motive to all of this?

00:21:40:16 – 00:22:03:08
She says Evans was arrested at her home. Admitted to sending. How? Also, how is this illegal? Like, you're watching this and going, it's disgusting. Why is she sending that? And then you forget about it, don't you? Easy, easy. Part of you guys, I'm gonna call the police. Yeah. The thing is, is what is it like counting back?

00:22:03:09 – 00:22:24:13
How many did she said? Maybe six or 7 or 8? Seven. Eight. Seven. Seven. Eight. To me, that's not a bombardment. That's not like you're waking up and you've got 35 missed calls every day or whatever. It's not. I mean, listen to this rate, she said. She suggested she wanted to send videos because she felt a partner was being treated unfairly.

00:22:24:15 – 00:22:40:00
But actually Goti like, I think he's been treated unfairly. Right. She's going to get far. Video today. That's, It was pretty malicious. She was smirking throughout, found the alias, but the victim didn't.

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Mrs. prefetch said in a statement, I would like to feel safe in my own home.

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That's ridiculous. Like she's not sending it right. Our take. She sending it via WhatsApp. WhatsApp? And that's like, how much does that cost out? Like that's taxpayers. That's my tax going on that. Yeah. That is that seems it's petty. Like don't call the police. If someone said in default videos no don't let it go to trial. Police should surely deal with this.

00:23:13:11 – 00:23:32:10
And John stop fucking doing this. What, are we going to arrest you? You know something? You know, like Judge Dredd. You know, Judge Dredd. He would be there. Yeah, yeah, he would catch the criminals. Then he would judge them on the street. And then the judge crack on. Yeah, I think we need, I don't know, people like people like this, but I think sometimes maybe in some instances the police should have more power.

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So in this you got the video, you got you got the video. She's farting in it. This other person don't like it. Deal with it there. Don't send it for the courts. So well you have farted in front of it. She doesn't like that ass hundred pound fine community order. That's the rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you have the buffer.

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The buffer. The court said. Oh, this should be like an, an intermediary, like, not not quite police level, but, you. Officer. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Plastic pigtails. That would deal with, Oh, you have, like, judges that walk around the street dealing with a little minor crimes. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Like in the olden days, there's, like a witch trial.

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Like every Saturday morning at the local church, everyone brings their local beef and then their judge. That'd be good. Yeah, I'd like that if, not to like speaking back to you just said about. It's a bit much in it that that's gone to trial. That's a waste of taxpayer's money. Waste of everything. All of it. Yeah. With with that in mind and a lot of people with that, there seems to be this outcry of the police not policing, because they're busy arresting people that have said mean things online.

00:24:56:02 – 00:25:26:02
Do you think that as is, as a society, especially within the UK, that things have gone too far in that, in that sense that if people say mean stuff on the internet, then that shouldn't really go to the police, that shouldn't go to trial, that that shouldn't, you know, I mean, this is a bit but, the 40 thing, even though I don't really think it was that malicious, but they were sending videos, you know what I mean?

00:25:26:03 – 00:25:50:04
So you can kind of see that. Rick, what can you think of someone you've had sort of beef with in the past? Think of that person. Right. And he sent you 4 or 5 videos when Im laughing. Smirking. Yeah. Any part of you goes to the police? Absolutely. No, no, no, no like that, that anybody who would go to the police.

00:25:50:06 – 00:26:06:19
No, I wouldn't even think to call the police. It wouldn't even be on my I just before doing it to my, my mates in the WhatsApp group. And Bella, don't you think this is weird. Yeah. Like that's your that's your, that's the that's how you come back. You just share it with people can look at this and everyone can.

00:26:06:20 – 00:26:32:00
That's fucking well weird. What are you doing. Quickly turns 000. You get your own back. Just start posting them on Facebook. Oh start posting them. Yeah, right. I'm out. Yeah. If you want, if you have this largest call and the had. Yeah I don't know if she's doing something illegal by that but I guess yeah. No, it's, it's not something I would imagine should be shared through the courts.

00:26:32:00 – 00:26:58:05
So now imagine you were, in like, so she lives on Mount Street now, so, you know. Yeah. So, you know where she lives? I can probably find out. At least go don't Google and find out what it looks like. The, if there would be a Facebook group, there's a Facebook group of where I live. Just imagine you start dropping six videos in there half hour and saying, hey, by the way, if you get that mountain straight, we got a little around here.

00:26:58:07 – 00:27:22:13
Yeah, yeah, it's a weird one for me. Yeah, I think, yeah, I like it if people are being, like, racist and stuff like that. I think there's a, there's a cause for like if people are a bit like hate speech and stuff like that online, I think there's a they can be warned. There's something like going to prison and stuff like that.

00:27:22:13 – 00:27:59:15
It just seems like I'd much prefer the police out there to be trying to. Yeah, murderers or whatever, or their resources pulled into something different. Yeah, of course I think. But essentially you should it shouldn't be public funding that deals with this. It should. There should be, you know, Twitter or X should have a pool of money that deals with the paying for these things, like in terms of football, football matches, we're talking about when Tottenham play, we have to pay for the policing on that day.

00:27:59:20 – 00:28:27:06
Any football club has to pay for the police in that day. That's yeah, that is so if the if football clubs have to pay for the policing then Twitter, if it happens on that platform should pay for the legal proceedings. Yeah. Yeah totally. That's why did you, did you see as well, there's a German man who set the world record for living 120 days underwater.

00:28:27:08 – 00:28:52:04
No, I didn't see that. Which is. Can you imagine? I like I saw the photos of it. And to be fair, there's lying on the water. What what what? Wait, where was he? Or was it in a capsule with these? Just literally underwater? He's in a capsule, but he's in the capsule. I if you check WhatsApp has a link diver.

00:28:52:10 – 00:29:25:00
Yeah. But he's in this capsule, right? But the capsule has stairs going to above sea level so people could walk down and see him. They could serve him food, but yet he was in a capsule under the sea. And although I kept it 120 days underwater, that's, you know, who cares in this little capsule but like it built.

00:29:25:02 – 00:29:42:20
So that's the story. The fact you're living in the capsule, which is underwater, not is is not interesting. I think this is where people are coming down to the capsule and say it him and he's getting food served. I so that's not a fucking feat. You got to make it work. In the capsule. Yeah. So someone's bringing you food.

00:29:42:20 – 00:29:59:10
You're just living, all right? You've managed to build this capsule that can exist on the wall. That's quite impressive. I'll give you that. What's his name? Is it Rudy? Her coach? Yeah. Rudy. Rudy, I'll give you that. Right. You've built his career as he even built the capsule. Or did someone give him the capsule? I don't know, I don't know any better.

00:29:59:10 – 00:30:18:04
A built a capsule. Otherwise, I'm not interesting. Because the fact that he's built this capsule that keeps out the water and he's got oxygen down there and that. That's good. That's good. I get that. I'd like to look at someone live in that for a bit like five minutes or something, or if there's a like a segment on the news that lasts two minutes, 30.

00:30:18:09 – 00:30:36:23
And it's about him living in that capsule, I'm interested. Right. Yeah. What I'm not interested is it is is what he's actually doing is he's living in his capsule. But every now and then he's going to the surface, and people just hand him food. Yeah, but you have to have something in the capsule that makes the food sustains you for 120 days.

00:30:37:01 – 00:31:01:10
You can live there forever. In that instance. Yeah, he puts 120. Why not do ten? Because all you looking up some stairs and living downstairs in the capsule. Yeah. It's ridiculous. I bet Marvin the entertainment down there, you better live an Xbox or something like that. Oh, he does, he does. He has everything into that. He has a lockdown that I think we should write into Guinness World Record that one time, or the amount of times I've spent in this office.

00:31:01:10 – 00:31:11:14
Ricky, it is the same. Like I spent eight days, eight hours in your office, did not go in for a bit of food and asleep. But then I come back to the office. That's what he's doing.

00:31:11:16 – 00:31:33:23
That's rubbish. It is rubbish that I've always had a, That normally it's every every, it's always in my resolutions. I didn't put it in this year, but I've always wanted to have my name in the Guinness World Records. What? You don't see, I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to tell you. There isn't something that this one in there.

00:31:34:01 – 00:32:05:23
Well, I over the years, I've been because I follow the Instagram account and I've been saving all the world records. I think I could beat that. I if I trained for six, I could do that. Well, I genuinely believe I could do. Have you got a list ready or do this next week or something? I haven't got a list ready, but there was one guy who he holds the world record for for cutting like, eight tomatoes in one minute.

00:32:06:04 – 00:32:28:17
So he had to cut the tomatoes into quarters, and he holds the world record for it. Now, when he was doing it, he didn't have the tomatoes all lined up. So he was like trying to pick at them. What do you say cut them? We talking about like cutting them in dice them. No no no. Just just into into quarters.

00:32:28:18 – 00:32:50:17
Right. So I in one minute, surely I could be there. It was exactly. This is what I'm saying, that I could be the I could be the fastest tomato car on the planet. I don't actually, I so I know that I know the, the Olympic was it called Guinness Book Records? I know the Guinness Book of Records is it's still sponsored by Guinness.

00:32:50:19 – 00:33:09:07
No, it must be gotta be shorter name. People don't know like our age, people of our age. The Guinness Book of Records was like top tier entertainment in the 80s. Yeah, like show if you went round your mates housing. Oh, your Guinness Book of Records. We could listen to that. And you sit there, look at this massive kind of what would you call it like catalog.

00:33:09:07 – 00:33:27:22
It was that really thick. Yeah. Yeah. Front. You'd have all the pictures of different records that have been broken that year and it's wicked. And it was all illustrated really nice. And it just went it just people's love for it just waned over the years. There's even a TV show. You had a TV show? Yeah. See who?

00:33:28:00 – 00:33:58:10
Oh, God. Oh, God. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And he did a boo. Yeah. So the other, you know, TV. Chris. Chris Christie, Chris Akabusi and Sally Gunnell. Yeah. And it was just we had a lot of Sally back in the day. But the naive Ricky. Yeah, there's something about that is nothing. I mean, I'm sure she's lovely and but no one looked at Sally Gunnell ever went yeah at me that.

00:33:58:12 – 00:34:20:04
Oh we don't really know. Sally Gunnell won a silver medal. Silver medal in 1992 Olympics. How the fuck do you know that? She was big news back then. It was like it was. She did 100, the 110 meter hurdles. I think she won a silver. That's that is, that's good knowledge if you've got that right. Let me.

00:34:20:04 – 00:34:48:06
I've got a check. Yeah. Anyway, so this guy, when he was cutting the tomato, he didn't have the tomatoes all lined up when he was cutting them, before he'd cut the tomatoes, he would remove the vine. So he was losing time. And then. So not only did he lose time of not lining the tomatoes up to do it, not only did he lose time of not removing the vines beforehand, and he went to cut one and he knocked it with his fingers and it rolled across the table.

00:34:48:12 – 00:35:06:15
So we had to lean, grab the tomato, put it back on the cutting board, pick the knife back up and go again. I think I could beat him, I genuinely think I could beat him and he's got another. He's got quite a few cut records really, and I think, yeah, yeah, I think that's what he does. He just goes into the does he climb records?

00:35:06:19 – 00:35:25:10
I just think people won't challenge him because he has you know Chris Smith has 14 cut records. Oh fucking no is the fastest car in the West. No I could beat him. I'd like to see it Rick I think I would I would love to, and we could build this up as a podcast. We could do it live on the podcast.

00:35:25:12 – 00:35:44:00
But I think there could be a section on the podcast where you attempt at Guinness World Records every week. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. No, no, that would do it live on the pod. If you do it, then if you don't do it, you have to, you have to pick another one like me. What. How many men must be one?

00:35:44:00 – 00:36:05:20
Like how many Maltesers you could put in your mouth, for example? Yeah, that. I mean, I haven't got a large mouth. There was one I always used to say where a man had X amount of snails on his face, and I thought I could like those. It's not something I see. This is the thing, Ricky. So I don't agree that I don't think there should be records for absolutely anything I get out is interesting when I was a kid, but now I'm like, it has to be something useful.

00:36:05:20 – 00:36:27:00
Like how many bricks can you lay on them in a minute? That's. Yeah. No, I know, I agree with that. I agree with that. You remember the guy that did the roly part, please? He did roly poly, right? He did like record for the most amount a roly poly in a 24 hour period. And he did loads. He did like a marathon's worth of roly poly, pretty much.

00:36:27:02 – 00:36:46:12
No, mate, that would fuck you up, man. Yeah. So after I do like third row to priority, I am so disorientated. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's up. A mustache wraps everywhere. So you had a suit of specially designed so you wouldn't get injured. But not so. Not. I mean, you'd still. There's still a risk.

00:36:46:15 – 00:37:08:22
We've actually contorting your body in that way consistently. But in terms of abrasion from the ground, you had a suit on that protected him from like crazy someone. All right. Anyway, so he to celebrate his achievement, he roly poly into the studio the Guinness Book of Records and everyone's cheering and he was like, yeah, well done. You've done all the rally parties.

00:37:09:04 – 00:37:30:04
You're now the Guinness World Record of rally parties in 24 hours, 40,000. Brilliant. Well done. These were heavy segments. Over the next segment comes on and they're talking about the hottest chili in the world, which chili held the record for the most Scoville chilies. All right. And there's an in the office and there's like this is the I don't know what it was.

00:37:30:04 – 00:37:49:02
Maybe it could be the Carolina Reaper or I don't know what the hottest chili is, but one of them. Yeah. And out of nowhere, this bloke who done all the right, you probably just went Oli it as you like. Oh, hold on a second. Roly poly man. You've done your bit with me gone, you know, you, you're not supposed to say anything.

00:37:49:02 – 00:38:10:23
Just sit there. It's the second the drunk, he's drunk. It is records. He's fucking power hungry. I he just said y'all earlier I meant and there like it was I wasn't in script I could be she's getting he can't. It's not. This segment isn't about eating the hottest chili pepper. This segment is about what is the hottest chili pepper.

00:38:11:01 – 00:38:37:13
And then we just move on with the show. And roly poly man drunk on fame is gone. Yeah, I'm going to eat this. And then like, Chris, I miss you guys. All right. And. Rocket it eats it. Guess what he says. Nothing. It's not right. It's nothing like cut away. Come back in. Another section is bright red.

00:38:37:15 – 00:38:42:23
They cut away in another section. He's in an ambulance being taken to the hospital.

00:38:43:01 – 00:39:03:07
It's the funniest thing I've ever said. Cool. I don't know why people think that they can just handle the heat, but some people can handle a hot curry and others can't. There's that. But I can't eat a vindaloo. It's too hot for me. I like to think I can because of my heritage. And then, I mean, you know, he doesn't know.

00:39:03:07 – 00:39:23:12
He fucking doesn't because I can't. Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous what I think. I think it's because people would assume of my Indian heritage that I can have a hot curry, and then I'm like, I believe it, I believe that hype. And then I have it and I'm like, how? How do you cut? Can you comfortably go? Can you?

00:39:23:14 – 00:39:42:22
Yeah, Madras. Madras is like where I draw the line. A Madras is still hot though. Yeah, it is hot up. It still is hot enough to still be able to enjoy the food. Anything off of that is like I've eaten the Madras before and I was, I was, I was okay with it. Like I wouldn't say it was a pleasurable experience.

00:39:43:00 – 00:40:03:03
Yeah, but I was able to finish it. I went out with a mate and we had a curry, was about 3 or 4 years ago now, and he was having a vindaloo. And I was like, I want let me just try it because I got, you know, it's not one bite isn't going to be too extreme.

00:40:03:04 – 00:40:22:10
So I got some of my his was a meat one. So I didn't want to eat any other meat anyhow. Right. So I've got a garlic bread, no garlic bread, garlic lamb and dipped in the vindaloo ate it. And while it was hot, the taste of it was really good. It was like, this is really nice and do what I can handle that.

00:40:22:10 – 00:40:35:21
And I was like quite impressed myself. So I just had a bit of vindaloo and I, I didn't burst out sweat some. I wasn't really into shit like that. So the next time I goes in rich, I'll go, can I have a vindaloo? And he looks evangelize. Oh God, not in front of a white bloke asking for a vindaloo.

00:40:35:21 – 00:41:02:09
We get it. He can handle the, you know, you've got a. But it's like driving a red Ferrari. You might be able to drive on. You still, like, come in one. Ordering a vindaloo is the exact same thing in my in my experience. Just looked like a dick. Anyway. Yeah. God, I was like, I liked it, and I know this, but I'm going to order myself a vindaloo, I liked it.

00:41:02:10 – 00:41:28:15
I got water away through the bowl and it kills me. My, like, sweat running down my face, my ears, my ears was the worst thing. It was like. It was like inside my head was on fire. It were ringing. My ears were ringing. I couldn't eat it. I am I had a similar one. I went to a South African restaurant close to where I live, and I ordered something called, a Bunny chow.

00:41:28:17 – 00:41:47:12
I don't know if you've ever heard of Bunny Chow. So Bunny Chow is. It's a hollowed out piece of bread. Loaf of bread. So the soft bread bit is removed and then a curry is put inside it. So I think you eat the curry and then if you want it to, you can eat the, you know what's holding it.

00:41:47:12 – 00:42:06:23
The, the bread. And when they came over they said would you like the bunny chow? And we said, I'm sorry if my mama said, yeah. And they said, well with the curry, how hot do you want it? And my mum was like, just like medium to mild, can I have the hottest one place? And they went.

00:42:07:01 – 00:42:24:01
We have to warn you that that is that it is hot. The hot is hot and it has three chilies on. It's going to be hot. And I kind of looked at as to say, can you see this face. Is brown Indian heritage right. Yeah, exactly. Go get me the fucking bunny chow. Make it as hot as you can.

00:42:24:03 – 00:42:46:14
And I got three spoonfuls into it and my mum looks and she said, is it really that hot? I sat down, I said, right, I could like the saltiness from my snot was going back into my mouth, and I couldn't even see my mum because my eyes were just so water and I was like, I have to sit here and after a to try and save face, yeah, yeah, yeah, got through it.

00:42:46:14 – 00:43:03:06
And the woman kept coming back. The sign is it. Oh it's yeah it's tingling I can, I can feel it. It's nice but I was thinking I can't wait till I get home. This is this is horrible itself. I totally ruined my whole evening. Yeah. Because that's what you're doing. You're fucking yourself like you're not. We're not supposed to be in this stuff.

00:43:03:06 – 00:43:26:08
The reason why chili peppers exist is so animals learn not to eat them in future. So it provides a defense mechanism for the chili. It's like why cactuses have spikes on them to prevent you from eat. So you learn if you eat, this is gonna hurt you. Eat this chili, you're going to hurt. So you haven't got this up right by being the dick that we are going can handle that.

00:43:26:14 – 00:43:53:04
Like what? I don't understand why restaurant holds that material. Why they sell a curry that high. Sorry. That hot. If it isn't just to placate people that want to be, like, swing their dicks around. I think like that. The only reason because a curry that's medium is much more flavorsome and enjoyable. The one that burns the roof of your mouth off for sure.

00:43:53:04 – 00:44:18:08
Yeah, yeah, it just is, isn't it? Yeah. It's like it's like. It's like. It's like. What would you. Why everyone likes Heinz tomato soup on a rainy day in autumn. Yeah, but crusty roll. Lovely, right? Yeah, sure. Right. What's the perfect temperature to eat that. You know, I don't know, 60 degrees, 70 degrees. So I'm like, yeah, sort of like it's nice.

00:44:18:08 – 00:44:35:18
It's warm. Just because you can see it boiling hot and it burns your mouth, but you can physically put it down your mouth. Your throat. Yeah. Doesn't mean you should. And that's the same thing with people connecting with the horse curry you want. You just want it. Just what I hate what I've found. As I get older, it is.

00:44:35:18 – 00:44:56:12
I don't like people. Performative people. Right? Yeah. Like people that when something becomes not genuine and I feel like it's not genuine, I really struggle not to cringe. I find it really cringeworthy. So if I'm if I'm going out, I don't know. This is because if someone was here career hot curry, it's up to them. So I shouldn't matter to me.

00:44:56:14 – 00:45:15:20
But I, I find it like you're doing that to sort of show off or to. Yeah yeah, yeah. But you can eat the hottest curry but you can't possibly not. Ian, you were going out for a meal. You're purposely not eating something that you're going to really enjoy to make a point that you can eat hot curry.

00:45:15:22 – 00:45:33:05
And we were enough. Always. Like, you should have stopped doing that when you're in your late teens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just just get the thing that you want. Just get the thing that, you know is going to be nice. You don't have to prove. I would say though, the the. I'm not talking about my mate. You ordered that vindaloo there.

00:45:33:07 – 00:45:54:16
I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about where I've experienced that before because he likes that and eats it every time. It's not like I've been for about ten curries and he always gets vindaloo, so he likes it in that instance. But I think generally it raises my well, because if I say his name, you're going to get all defensive and you know that's not necessary, right?

00:45:54:16 – 00:46:11:12
Okay. And you bet you ten curries and you're not been for one curry of me. I've made you curry. You've eaten curry in my home. I didn't make it. Yeah, that is true. Yeah. Give it back. Yeah it does. It does make me feel a little bit bad. Well, we can go for curry if you want. Right? I want to go for a curry now.

00:46:11:12 – 00:46:31:17
We've spoken about this. I went for a curry last night. It was a DJ. Yeah, it wasn't very good. Oh nine. Where did you go? What? Local places. Like packed. It's packed it, to be honest. Other people's car. Is that better than mine? My curry. Just wait for something that is a vegetarian like India is 98% vegetarian. It's only the cities where you eat meat.

00:46:31:19 – 00:46:59:08
Yeah. So for that, for for us to somehow bastardized someone else's food. Yeah. And make the vegetarian version is the shortest form of it. When the purest form, the curry is vegetarian just shows you everything about England. Yeah, I like, I mean to that. What's your favorite? Well, my mum has just got back from traveling India for, two and a half months.

00:46:59:11 – 00:47:42:20
What did she say the food was that she likes curry. By the end, she she she was. It's like breakfast, lunch and dinner all day, every day. And she said that the. A lot of places in India is vegetarian and tons will do chicken. And they may do fishy as well, but generally speaking it's vegetarian. And because it's so hot over there and the produce of it growing quickly and not really space to kind of store a lot of fruit and veg in the in the hot climate, everything is basically picked that day or it's very fresh basically.

00:47:42:20 – 00:48:08:22
So all the vegetables and all the spices and everything, that she is so fresh and clean that the taste in comparison to what we have over here, that is then laden with preservatives and additives and meat and stuff like that. She was just saying, it's you. You wouldn't even call them curries. They're just that different. Yeah. Which is which is mad in it.

00:48:09:02 – 00:48:31:02
Can I just say, I said that 98% of Indians are vegetarian. Not not even remotely true. I just checked it. Then they were fact checking on my own 2,029% of vegetarian, 29% of their IT. Yeah, it depends where they are. So if you're in the west of the country, almost. What is it? Some in some regions, 75%.

00:48:31:02 – 00:48:41:16
Most people are vegetarians in the West. In the east of the country, most people aren't. So right. There you go.

00:48:41:17 – 00:49:01:14
Do you want to hear what we're going to do? We are going to go into dilemmas in something on a, you know, next on the dilemma, I, I should have it. You know, I spoke about this at the beginning of the show because this dilemma is an add on to a dilemma that was already sent in. So I'll go for it.

00:49:01:16 – 00:49:12:08
It's called Forbidden Love part two. And something only you know is who do you think you are?

00:49:12:10 – 00:49:47:03
The topic for next week and we are going to do a topic for next week. Is they the taboo subjects that no one really talks about? It's going to be about money. Money, money. Yeah. Exactly what money does to families, people waiting on inheritance from their families just to buy a house. The dark side of services for money, as in people will fly to different countries and get shit on in Dubai.

00:49:47:03 – 00:49:58:22
So you took the words right out of my mouth. What price would you get shit on? Very, I would probably.

00:49:59:00 – 00:50:21:22
Oh, it's a hard one because you want to go too low. They just say 500 pounds because I could take it, can I? 500 pounds so I can shit on your chest. Yeah, yeah, I could do that. What. What would you, what would you, what would you go. Right. I let's I'm probably I'm going to say let's start off with.

00:50:22:00 – 00:50:47:04
500,000. Right. 500,000. That's the lowest you go for someone to show. Like you know that that's a lie. I'd probably go lower than that. Okay. I'd probably go over 100 K, right? Yeah. You. It's only a pay only if you talk to the missus about you. You know I'm going away, right? How long are you going for? Well, it's probably going to take me a couple days, really, to get this boy get settled, then.

00:50:47:04 – 00:51:02:02
Got to meet this guy, this shit on me, and then ten. And then I'm going to come. I'm so pretty. Be away about 4 or 5 days. Well, what did you say? What happened in the middle of that? This case is going to shit on me in Dubai. Why are you doing this? What do you mean? Well, he's going to pay me.

00:51:02:02 – 00:51:30:17
How much you say underground? Yeah, yeah, he's going to pay me a hundred grand. What is your Mrs. 80? She would probably be happy that we get 100 grand, but then on the plus side, it's like. Are you sure you want to do this? For the final one? She would go going, then she would. But she would probably leave it up to me and and say, you do what you want, but I can't do what a set up.

00:51:30:17 – 00:51:35:16
I can't kind of. Yeah. That it would.

00:51:35:18 – 00:51:52:16
Like she would say, all right, go and do it for the money. Yeah. I think that's what she would say. Ricky's got a contract with three sheiks and they're all shooting 100 K. It would have been five days. You'll never have to see anything or hear anything ever again. Are you happy for Ricky to go and do this?

00:51:52:16 – 00:52:10:13
Do you think she would go? Yeah. Go on. I think she I think she probably would. I think you should probably be supporting it if I wanted to do it. Would you be supportive of her going to the buyer for 100 grand? Not alone. Is that right. So. Right. So that's like that's that. Sorry. Yeah. So there's that.

00:52:10:13 – 00:52:41:17
And then also by someone hey Rick, how much do you think someone would pay a maximum sum of a pay to share on you in Dubai? I don't know because there's any market. Oh, there is this see the underworld of influence being paid to. So they would pay for their flights from England to fly out there. Yeah. And people pay the money to shit on them and do and do other things which will go into because I'll, I'll proper research this out.

00:52:41:20 – 00:52:49:19
And I researched the price and you asked this question, what's the most that you reckon someone would pay to shit on Ricky?

00:52:49:21 – 00:53:10:04
£500, I thought. Well yeah, yeah. Mate, but this could be a set up. This could be a set up. Bearing in mind you could. You could change my mind. If someone says, I'll drop t k and I'll have a turn, I reckon I'll be like, right. Five make, make. Meet me in, meet me in Chichester. I will do this.

00:53:10:08 – 00:53:33:05
We'll have it out. Happen. Right? The thing is, is what? You got to really think about what you're saying it right is because, you know, in terms of, like, there are escorts that would charge a couple of grand the night for you can spend, you know, with an escort, and I guess you'd go, you'd put them up in a hotel and stuff like that, and it cost you a couple of grand, were high end escort.

00:53:33:05 – 00:53:56:02
You were used to dealing with, like, footballers or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Right. She. So she's charging 200 grand for an evening of her time. You reckon someone's going to pay you a couple of grand to shit on your rake? You just really. Yeah, I know, yeah, I know, be, a power thing. It might be. It might be racist then.

00:53:56:03 – 00:54:15:18
Okay, okay. That's how they. That's how they get their kicks. And they've been waiting and waiting. Waiting to like. All right, Rick, how much are you acceptance get racist put up. That that I mean, that's just a no in it. Yeah. That is an I couldn't accept any money if I, if I realized my. Yeah, that's.

00:54:15:18 – 00:54:19:22
Yeah. 250 grand.

00:54:20:00 – 00:54:43:23
Right. We'd have a conversation. I mean, I'd meet someone in the cafe to have a conversation. What you found. What? What? Happy caf insulting. Yay! The. You want to buy a new house? Like a five bedroom house? That'd be lovely, right? And with its own land, maybe a little fishing pole. Maybe I'd do anything if you. If you've put that in, like, anything.

00:54:43:23 – 00:55:11:19
Anything you want in my mouth. So racist poo in your mouth. Racist in my mouth. To get a three quarter acre lake in my back garden. Yeah. Yes, but I think everyone's got a price. Right? So I'll choose. So the next podcast I'm going to go for a price list review as well. But someone else has emailed in, but they said that they would like us to have a little conversation about self-employment.

00:55:11:21 – 00:55:35:15
Okay. Which obviously quite separate the money side and all of that stuff. Yeah. So we'll capture all of that in next week's episode. So if you have any questions or stories or anything you'd like to share, email us at Lad Anon Pod at gmail.com and we will read it out. Now we are going to be going into dilemmas.

00:55:35:17 – 00:56:03:23
So just tired and we got an issue for a tissue. Your big fat cat will be an aching in your soul. A lovely new flat. Please talk to Vicky. Flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. But look friendly to somebody like, yes, I better get lost. More between breaking and.

00:56:04:01 – 00:56:31:04
So this is called Forbidden Love part two. The first reading of this was on episode 54 called music. So I'll give you a little refresher here. I'm a guy that works for a large firm, and I'm an associate that works under a few seniors, all married women. Three months ago, one of my senior sends me a text at 11 p.m., proceeds to ask if she can come over.

00:56:31:09 – 00:56:58:08
I was very hesitant, but obliged in the end. The affair started at my apartment that night. Do you remember this one, Flav? Yeah, so? So remind me. So. So this is so. Yeah. So he's a. Yeah. Basically having an affair with a what made him feel really bad. Like he was in and it his religious beliefs were impacted and he found that know about it and that's it.

00:56:58:10 – 00:57:37:05
Yeah. Well remember that's exactly what it was. So he's emailed us again. All right. What's he doing? Still doing it. Pig. Little pig. The, the diet, the dilemma has increased. So? So a few months ago, I sent in about an affair I was having with my senior at work. Well, this is an update, a part two. So now we're on for four months of the affair, and I've stopped and I've started to say the I love views, and all other pillow talk things you can imagine at the honeymoon stage for lovers.

00:57:37:07 – 00:58:02:01
I eventually got really mad at her that I was just a side piece and in my mind, and gave her the ultimatum, either me or him. Well, the next day, she tells her husband she wants a divorce and gives her ring back to her. Now going to sell the home and holy shit do I feel like the dog chasing the tire.

00:58:02:03 – 00:58:26:12
I have caught it and I have no fucking idea what I'm supposed to do. Literally, I have destroyed a marriage and while I'm in love with her, that is some heavy fucking shit to deal with. If people find out work, they will hate me. My team at the firm is very female dominated, and as a male, I'm going to be looked at as a homewrecker.

00:58:26:14 – 00:59:02:09
I'm really worried and that I have ruined my life. Last but not least, my uncle has floor seats to an NBA game and so I so I got us tickets for Valentine's Day. And she says she's worried that someone must put us on TV so she doesn't know if she wants to go or not. Personally, I'm thinking about turning this into a much bigger deal than it should be and taking an exit ramp off this relationship by saying we are done, since she is scared to be seen with me in public.

00:59:02:10 – 00:59:27:01
But if I go that route and she is like, fine, we can make it public. I am so fucked. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. What do y'all think? Scale of 1 to 10 how fucked I am. Let's talk about the ringside seats first, okay? Can we have them?

00:59:27:03 – 00:59:37:17
Can we go? Wait. Which team is it? Chicago Bulls. Let's hope it's a Chicago Bulls.

00:59:37:19 – 00:59:49:21
I mean, I, I guess the key thing you need to focus on is that you're in love with her. If you're in love with her, that's really all that matters. Because at the end.

00:59:49:23 – 01:00:11:20
It's not all that matters. There's a lot that matters here. There's a lot riding on that. Right? But in the end, when you are on your deathbed and you're looking back at your life, the only thing that I imagine that you're really going to be concerned about is who you loved, how much you loved them, and how did you treat them.

01:00:11:22 – 01:00:38:06
And jobs really pale into insignificance. People that you work with pale into insignificance. What they think of you pales into insignificance. None of it matters. And I know this because you love work colleagues who you think are your friends. And the minute you stop working there, you never speak to them again. They don't care about you. They might have opinions about you and say things home wrecker or whatever it is.

01:00:38:07 – 01:01:02:08
But for 99% of their day, they're thinking about what's going on in their life. Yeah. So you're going to not develop what could be if you genuinely in love with this woman, could be the greatest relationship you ever have in your short time on this planet, or you're going to not pursue it because of what people think of you.

01:01:02:10 – 01:01:18:02
I don't think I don't think it's a choice. I think you just got to pursue it and make sure and don't don't play games. Don't do that at all. If you're not afraid to see me in public, then if you want out, just say, I'm really sorry for ruining your career and you're sort of ruining your marriage. But I don't want this.

01:01:18:04 – 01:01:36:08
You've put yourself in that situation, but you do want you. You're in love with her. So don't then play games and do it. That's what my advice would be anyway. Yeah, if you are, if you like it, like you say you're in love with, then I would. I would pursue it like like fluff says. But things as well.

01:01:36:08 – 01:02:03:13
Like if to me if she is continued with this affair and she's gone down this route, she was obviously unhappy in her marriage. So if it wasn't going to be you, it may have been someone else, or she would have just left with that person anyway. But obviously if you if you are in love with her, then this is a relationship that, you know, it could be for the end of your life.

01:02:03:13 – 01:02:25:08
You could be there for the end of your life with this person. So I would continue pursuing it. But it's it is a hard one. And what I, what I would do is if you do decide to stick with this person and you want to see you, would you want to see how, how far it goes and and all of that?

01:02:25:09 – 01:02:54:02
I'd be looking to probably do something about your work situation, find another job. Because like you're saying, if it does, if it does, get around the office. Homewrecker. I know that lot. It's going to be tough for you working there. People's opinions are going to change of you and all of that stuff. But also, do you really want to be working at a place where your partner is working?

01:02:54:02 – 01:03:27:01
And I think her saying is, she's a senior at work, like, you're going to be working for your missus. And I just I just think it's a recipe for disaster. Working with your partner. If your partner is managing you, all of that stuff. So if you are going to stay together and, you know, see this relationship out, I probably start thinking about the work situation too and just go go a different route and not have that as an extra added complication within your lives, and just have the relationship based around your love for one another.

01:03:27:02 – 01:03:51:18
But yeah, like perhaps the that bit about the MBA tickets and you know, saying about, oh, if you're going to go if you don't want to go public, then we'll split up and stuff. Just be honest at that time. Yeah, don't do that. That's, that's a much critical like what happens if you're in love with each other and you build a life to govern, you're happy.

01:03:51:18 – 01:04:14:15
You got to give that a shot. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You're not supposed to know what to do it. You don't have to know what to do. But the key thing is, is that your relationship. That could be amazing. Yeah. The problem is you just turn out to be sex, and that's all it is. And lust in that honeymoon period that's also attractive when, if for some people.

01:04:14:15 – 01:04:38:05
What? Imagine when they're in like, I don't know why. I don't really understand why people cheat. Right. But it happens a lot. So it must be there must be something going on. But if someone is in a loving relationship for one that they don't feel fulfilled in, or they there is a problem with that relationship, that the attraction of the unknown is sometimes very desirable or something new.

01:04:38:07 – 01:05:01:03
But there's also, you know, if you're in a long term relationship and I don't want to put that on, this woman exploits mine or but, you know, you imagine if you've been in a relationship for a long time and you're like, oh, this is fun, this is exciting. And then you leave your, you know, what is security in relationship in your marriage.

01:05:01:05 – 01:05:25:19
And at some point you go, oh God, I'm glad. I was like convinced by that sexy, attractive thing. But then people leave relationships and marriages all, like, all of the time, right down all the time. So just yeah, don't overthink it. Work thing will sort itself out. Don't care as much as you can about what people think of you, and find the thing that makes you happy.

01:05:25:19 – 01:05:52:05
And that's what you found to make you happy. So don't worry about what other people think. In fact, them. Yes, good, good, good place to leave that right. We're going to go on to something only you know why? Something, you know, who do you think you are? My parents recently did a DNA test, and the result came back that my dad had some West Asian heritage.

01:05:52:07 – 01:06:18:07
This came as a somewhat of a surprise to this white Caucasian male and raised a lot of questions. Where could my ancestors come from? Am I now Turkish? Afghani? Yemeni? How do I feel about the wild now I'm. What can I do about the situation in Gaza? I decided to do my family tree and to find out more about my ancestors.

01:06:18:09 – 01:06:46:18
So I get into and into ancestry and start plugging in my family's details and scanning through old census records looking for answers. 1850 my great granddad on my dad's side was slumming it in the East End of London, whilst on my mum's side they were hardworking bakers in Northamptonshire. This is great fun. I so screenshot in my work to my family as I uncover our family history.

01:06:46:20 – 01:07:09:02
I'm up to my nuts in this now. It's taken up most of my evening and I've even reunited my grandmother with a long lost cousin. I love this, I think it's my calling. Maybe they'll get me to present. Who do you think you are? It's now 1750. I hate the name Hayman. And we go from East end London to Dill in Kent.

01:07:09:04 – 01:07:36:12
I started researching the name Hayman, thinking this may have been anglicized immigrant name. I dug deeper and guess what? It wasn't. However, I went down the Hayman rabbit hole and found I had all these distant cousins in Kent. I thought wow, isn't this cool? I dug even deeper and found the name Sir Peter Telford Hayman. I thought, shit, I'm related to a sir.

01:07:36:17 – 01:08:10:13
I'm part of the elite. I could probably join the Freemasons now. I googled Sir Peter Telford Hayman and this was the first line of this Wikipedia page. Sir Peter Telford Hayman, M.B.E. was a British diplomat, intelligence operative and member of the Pedophile Information Exchange, a pro pedophile activist group. He was knighted as a Knight, a Knight Commander. Order of service.

01:08:10:15 – 01:08:40:08
In 1981, he was named in the House of Commons as a pedophile by Geoffrey Dickens MP. Yep, my distant cousin is a nonce. Not just a nonce, but he was the nonce. Final boss, full on public bacon. I deleted the Family Tree app after I moved all links from my family to the name Hayman, and when my mum asked how I was getting on with the family tree, I just said I got bored and it hasn't come up since.

01:08:40:10 – 01:08:46:12
And that is something only I know. I protect the family name.

01:08:46:14 – 01:09:18:20
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01:09:18:22 – 01:09:54:12
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00:00:01:04 – 00:00:20:11
Just hate the doctor's moment. Just got real beef for my doctors, then done anything wrong? In fact, they're doing everything right. It's just, getting on my nerves because they're like, you're like, oh, I've got these. I've told you about. I've. I've spoke about this on the pod before, about the peripheral neuropathy. What the what the fuck's that?

00:00:20:13 – 00:00:40:14
Have I never spoken to you about this? Well, hang on a second. So we've got the. That's not where you can't vision things in your head. No, no, no, that's that's, a fantasia. I got so-called vision things in my vision. I can't imagine things in my head. I can't create an image in my head. Yeah. You have a phobia about house.

00:00:40:14 – 00:01:08:05
Is that even though that's not. Yeah, that's something else. No, that's that's right. Now, I've never told you about what you said about two years. What is it? It's like my feet are on fire all the time. So it is funny. It is funny, but it is also super painful. What if I just heard about this? I know I've told you about this before.

00:01:08:07 – 00:01:29:22
No, I, Yeah. So it's like it's, basics and nerve. That nerve damage. It's nerve damage. And so my feet right now, I'm looking at my feet. It feels like they're on fire. Like someone set fire to them. That's. That's why that's what I. That's what I have all day, every day, even when I go to bed.

00:01:29:24 – 00:02:08:11
How did it happen? How many times you just walk it. No, no, no, it's what it's like. It's it's typically about. Well, there's a number of ways you can get it, but excessive sugar is, is one way. So alcohol excessive alcohol intake potentially diabetics have it. But also people that have Covid 56% a example of long Covid, 56% of people who were exposed to the Covid 19 virus have developed some form of peripheral neuropathy.

00:02:08:13 – 00:02:27:21
So how did you get Covid? Yeah, twas the worst thing. It could be worst. I've never been as ill feel as well as I did when that. So it's even linked to that. Whatever it is, I've got it. And there's no cure, so you can't make it. You can apparently can make it better. This is quacks online are saying you can fix it.

00:02:27:21 – 00:02:56:08
You can find ways of making it better. But the NHS sort of like is pain management right. Rather than, than anyway, so the doctor I'm going to the doctor's right. So I'm on Boxing Day I will said, and I'm not going to go into the no drinking thing, but I gave up drinking. Right. And I'm thinking when you give up drinking, what it does is it you start to focus on things that you wouldn't have done if you were drinking.

00:02:56:10 – 00:03:22:03
So drinking does wonderfully. And what was become became becoming aware to becoming aware to me is drinking dulls all of the things that you should think about for me. Yeah. So the minute you start drinking, your body goes away. This is good. You know, even. Don't worry about everything. Just have a drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't you get another cancer?

00:03:22:03 – 00:03:43:09
You don't have to get up. Blood tells you good stuff. Yes. Good. So. And and that's sort of like drinking at home and not. And then so when you stop drinking, your brain starts working normally. So like going I should go to the dentist. I should go to the doctor's, I should I you start behaving like a fucking adult like most people do.

00:03:43:11 – 00:04:00:15
Yeah, yeah. So I've been going through this process and because it kickstarted with the fucking neuropathy. Right. It keeps like that. So I need to get this sorted because drinking takes it away but it also adds to it. So go, go get it sorted. Anyway, the minute you're in there you're like, well, we need to want to test you for this.

00:04:00:15 – 00:04:17:16
I want to test you for that. I want to do tests. You want to test your liver function, test the kidney function. We want to test your cholesterol. Oh, we forgot to do the cholesterol. We need to get you back in front of a blood test. And then. So there's that. I'm dealing with that, which is I'm grateful because I'm, you know, they're going to make me feel better.

00:04:17:18 – 00:04:51:15
But I went to the dentist yesterday. That's another thing I had to do. I didn't want to do it. Well got a, you got like, you've got hereditary recession and your teeth were going back. You're back basically in there. The the the, the jawline is receding. Basically I have to go to a hygienist once every three months because they've got like these honeycomb formations in what, between my, in the sort of roots of my teeth that need to be cleaned properly.

00:04:51:15 – 00:05:06:03
And you can only where you can do it as a hygienist. You can't do it, can't do it with you just but but so basically I've done I think that's a fit up. I think they're just trying to milk you for money on that. But at the moment, gums are quite sensitive. I do need to, I don't I'm just going to do it, I don't care.

00:05:06:03 – 00:05:28:13
Take my money. If you feel like I'm doing the right thing, I'm doing the right thing. I don't need you to put that in my head. But really, are you? When's the last time you went to Denis? I went to. I went a record. He's like. So I didn't go for about seven years. Yeah. Last summer. I know that 19, actually, that is a lie.

00:05:28:15 – 00:05:49:14
But I had an NHS, Denis and I missed the appointment. And then they chucked me off the books. And then I only went privately when something was fucking horribly wrong. Yeah. And they would have to, I'd have to have a tooth extraction or whatever. And from then on in, I only go and see the dentist when I've got a problem.

00:05:49:16 – 00:06:08:23
And I went to take my girls to the appointment to our local and is the one that I stood up and they chuck me off their books. And every year I ring them and say, do you have any NHS appointments there? I'd say no, and I'd be like, fair enough. And while I in there, I said, As I'm in here, do you have any, any x, any NHS appointments?

00:06:09:00 – 00:06:30:08
And they said, actually we've just opened up. So I said can I have an appointment? They gave me an appointment and they said, we've checked our records. You got kicked off because you missed your last one. If this happens again, you'll get kicked off again. So that's fine. So now go to the dentist regularly. The dentist is somebody, her son goes to.

00:06:30:09 – 00:06:50:14
My daughter's our school, and my Mrs. is his teaching assistant. So there's this kind of. Yeah, she knows the surname now, knows me and stuff. So she's asking me questions about smoking and stuff like that. And I had to kind of like, she's like, I know you smoke. And I'm like, right, okay, brilliant. Can you do me a favor?

00:06:50:14 – 00:07:12:04
Can you not tell my children that I smoke or vape or do any of that stuff? Yeah. And she was like, yeah, fine. And I, you know, have to keep it between us. But so yes. Bad in it for your teeth. Yeah. It's really bad. And she was, she was asking me how often I brush and I said, well, like everyone else twice a day I drove the business as I know I can shop.

00:07:12:06 – 00:07:31:03
I like telling you. Yeah. Brushing them and I wouldn't. Yeah, I went then, you know what was what brands your toothbrush. Mind your own fucking business about brands. My toothbrush. Yeah. And I was like, well, I don't know. And she said, what is it, around one nice oval? Sure. Well, I know what it is. I well, good for you.

00:07:31:05 – 00:07:56:14
You know, sort of muggy myself off that exacerbate. Fucking bit fresh from air in it. Okay. They recommend it. They recommend it. I think also I wanted to go back to your room. The doctor's point. Right. I, I have a doctor that I go to and he's been head of the surgery for wear an ear for years and I always booking to see him.

00:07:56:16 – 00:08:18:07
But when I first went into him, I got the biggest surprise of my life. So you normally knock on the door clock out, was it? You know, it wasn't. It was. It was worse than that day. I put that away. Yeah. Just protect the door again. Robert. Back. Can you put away?

00:08:18:09 – 00:08:42:09
The twin in your garden and the walls in the in his dental practice was water was covered in Liverpool posters like newspaper clippings where, where they had won the FA Cup. And Gerrard is doing a Klinsmann and slide in and like all these other things everywhere, I'm like, I've, I just walked into the head of the surgery room or a 14 year old's bedroom.

00:08:42:09 – 00:08:58:22
I'm not sure like thinking, what what the fuck is going on there? What do you think? We have confidence, you know, when you go to the doctor and then they're like, all right, to pull your pants down? How do you feel? Are you grown up about it? Yeah, I am a grown up about it. I do remember this time.

00:08:58:22 – 00:09:24:18
I must have been between 18 and 20, and one day at work I had a really aching bollock, like really aching. Don't know what it was. And I was walking round this warehouse and I could barely walk because the aching was getting so bad. And I was told to go home. And I went to the doctor, and obviously they wanted to have a look to see what the matter was.

00:09:24:18 – 00:09:45:12
That's fine. Dick out. And then he said, oh, actually, can you can you go and lay down on the bed and pull your trousers down to your ankles and stuff, for fuck's sake? Sure. Cos I could do that. So I went over, he put the, the, I put the kind of curtain across. So when he came in to see me, it was pitch black.

00:09:45:18 – 00:10:06:14
Couldn't see anything down by my trousers because I'd gone behind the curtain, right, laid on the bed and he'd pulled the curtain across. So it was now dark in this little curtained off there. How dark? Very dark. I really, really dark. Almost pitch black. Dark. And then he pulled the lamp from the wall and clicked it on. So spotlight.

00:10:06:19 – 00:10:30:08
So there was a spotlight on this tiny, shriveled brown penis with pubes everywhere. And I was just look down and say, oh my God, it was fucking. What a state. What a light. Just it's not, it's not brown. Nah, I never you're going to say that ain't brown, is it. What color is it? It's very dark brown.

00:10:30:10 – 00:10:57:13
Really. I've seen it. I mean, you save it a lot of times. Black based. I wouldn't say black because, the night I see, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight. Waves surfing through to daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek band as I we like to speak.

00:10:57:15 – 00:11:06:12
And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:11:06:14 – 00:11:29:22
Hello and welcome to lives. Anonymous is episode 72. I'm Ricky, he's Flav two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and I'll feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. Why is it that this is slightly darker colored than the body always? Is it the blood that's in it?

00:11:29:24 – 00:11:52:00
I don't know, it's I always remember that when we went to my first last holiday, Tenerife, someone was having a shower. Obviously you go in and I pull the curtain across and you have your disposable camera and you take a photo of them. Yeah, of course you do. And when they developed what I thought it was might say, of course you do.

00:11:52:02 – 00:11:59:12
I've never known anyone to take a picture of a man's penis as much as you.

00:11:59:14 – 00:12:26:19
Yeah. That's that. Yeah, that that does ring true if you true. Loads of mine. Yeah. That is 100% true. Hundred percent true. What's it about? You are. What's it you were in? We were in, Brussels. We were, we were. What a lovely, lovely romantic. Yeah. Was. But my mate, he, white guy and his his penis was very brown.

00:12:26:19 – 00:12:51:19
Yeah. Very powerful. Yeah. What's that? I mean, like, I can't imagine, like you're. Cause you're very fair. So I couldn't imagine, like, it's yours. Like you seen it is. Yeah, I would say it's more like. It's such a opaque, like, I think.

00:12:51:21 – 00:13:12:10
Dear me. Why is that? I don't know, it's the blood flow. Blood flow? Yeah, it must be because, like, it's not like it's getting a suntan. It's the most hidden coming up thing. So I've got no idea. It's quite like there I am. I'm going. No, I'm going to Wales this weekend. But you can go see my cousin.

00:13:12:12 – 00:13:40:04
She lives in Wales and they're thereabouts. Bridgend. Never been there, I always remember, I don't know if I'm making this up but I swear like Bridgend in Wales had like the serious the highest suicide rates. Yeah. So she lives. Yeah. Yeah. So so so I always think of that because my brother lives in Pembrokeshire and we drive past Bridgend on the way there.

00:13:40:04 – 00:14:01:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was a spy. I don't think it's like they're not still doing it. I think it was like this like two years, like 13 kids took their own lives. Yeah. It's amazing fucking what sinks into your head. I've never been to Wales. I've been to Pembrokeshire to get a ferry across to Ireland, and I've done that twice.

00:14:01:05 – 00:14:22:19
But I've never stopped in Wales, so I don't know if this. Am I being silly to think that they it's going to be markedly different. You know, when I go into shops, am I going to hear a thick Welsh accent. Not in not, not in the South. No. Like you go down to Pembrokeshire and you can barely know you're in Wales.

00:14:22:19 – 00:14:49:07
There are some people with Welsh accents, but it's mostly English down there, right? Okay, so loads of holiday second homes and people go down there and live in Pembrokeshire. But there are some. But like for example, my brother Alex, he's the partner Tilly, she's from Pembrokeshire. But you wouldn't tell that she's from Wales or she was born there, right.

00:14:49:09 – 00:15:13:18
Yeah. But you go other places, you go further north and then it's like proper thick and into the valleys. Yeah. That, that, that, that. And that's what I want some of that. My granddad was brought up, in, in Wales and he, when he died, he would say, he'd say when he was alive, you'd say, when I die, you can throw me off Barmouth Bridge from Barmouth Bridge.

00:15:13:20 – 00:15:23:08
And Barmouth was where he grew up. And Barmouth has a famous pretty infamous bridge. It's quite what, the viaduct.

00:15:23:10 – 00:15:47:06
What do you know? What did you say about that, mate? It's fucking beautiful. It's. I don't know if it's a viaduct. It's just the bridge that goes across the river. Yeah, yeah, with the railway on it. Yeah, but a viaduct is is what carries the cross River water would. Yeah, that's what that would be. I don't mean it's just the bridge is a bridge.

00:15:47:08 – 00:16:03:24
Yeah, it is a bridge. And it does have a, it does have a railway on it. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. So yeah Barmouth Viaduct. Yeah. When. Oh it is a viaduct. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. My bad, my bad I so I may have a box baby. So you know about that. Was it you into viaduct.

00:16:04:01 – 00:16:26:04
Yeah. Me you make something new. So you know about my peripheral neuropathy. And I know that you know that viaduct. So, So. Yeah. So when you go out, when you're. When I die, you can throw me off Barmouth Bridge. And like, when he died, we had him cremated before. Let's go and spread his ashes at Barmouth Bridge.

00:16:26:06 – 00:16:47:09
It's quite tricky process, spreading ashes because it's quite important. It's the body of your grandfather that looks like. It's like just come out of a fucking wood burner. Yeah. And, in my head, I thought the best way to do it would be to twist it. So the roof was at the root, so the lid was just coming at off.

00:16:47:11 – 00:17:06:01
And then I didn't want to tip it to go over everybody. Yeah, but what I did, it kind of slipped from my hands. And the whole UN went over the side of the bridge, and just hit the rocks below and just exploded.

00:17:06:03 – 00:17:28:00
So that romantic notion of him drifting through the air, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's where he played. He just fucking hit the rocks below and exploded. That is. Yeah. And I said to the man, it's like I met your friend, the childhood friend. And I said, What's Barmouth like? And he goes, Barmouth. If you shot a bullet up the high street, you wouldn't let anybody.

00:17:28:01 – 00:17:50:21
That's what he said. Oh, so it's just it's not for them. It's nothing. Then I went there. No one there, no nothing there. Just feel free. Well she's I'm hanging around I always remember, Tottenham. Half time some lady comes running down the stairs looking a bit shifty. Looks to the left, looks to her right. There's no stewards.

00:17:50:23 – 00:18:13:17
She gets an urn from inside her jacket and as the top starts up, ending it on the pitch. And then we're. We laughing because we know what's going on. She spread in the air, then. Yeah. And then the wind picks up. All starts going all over us. Row two. I've got someone's dead relative in my eyes just trying to watch Spurs versus Sunderland.

00:18:13:19 – 00:18:33:24
Yeah, this is fucking ninja. What's going on? You know, she can just contact the club and they can arrange for this stuff. Oh, people don't care, do they? They just think if I do it quickly no one's going to mind. No, it's going to kick up anything. I fucking ashy my hair. No I mean terrible, terrible is terrible.

00:18:34:01 – 00:19:13:08
Today we are going to be talking about heels you would die on. Right. And to. For anyone that doesn't know what this actually means, it's issues that people feel very strongly about and refuse to back down from, often leading to heated debates. Now I want to kick this off. Now I've got three of my own, which we'll go into, but to like the touch paper on this discussion, we've been sent a voice note and we're going to play that voice note right now.

00:19:13:11 – 00:19:40:24
Oh. Oh, yes. Hello, lads. I wanted to leave your voice note about the dying on the Hill, thing, because it's something I've. I've had for years. And much to the annoyance and chagrin of my, wife, my sister, female friends, anyone that I've told this to. But but I strongly believe it. And I'm going to die on the hill.

00:19:41:01 – 00:20:01:24
Which is, if you're a woman, your wife, or your long term girlfriend of your partner, and you live with a guy when he gets home from work, assuming that you have the kind of relationship where he goes to work and you're looking after the kids and you're at home, right? So, you know, with that caveat.

00:20:02:01 – 00:20:23:22
If you're at home and he gets in, no matter how bad your day's been, no matter what you've done in terms of having to look after the kids, just put it to one side, just pocket, let it get in the house, don't attack him with talking. Just let him get in. Make him a cup of tea, give him a beer or anything like that.

00:20:23:24 – 00:20:49:24
Just let get in the house, give him 20 minutes, then talk to him. That'll make the difference. That that. And also, there's one other thing. I mean, this is controversial, but it's, it's a truth. I'm just speaking truth. There's no judgment. Is. No, it's not an opinion. This is a fact. Make sure you suck his dick at least, at least once every two weeks.

00:20:50:01 – 00:21:07:23
You could go more frequently, or you could go slightly less. But don't leave it for longer than a month. Sarcastic. Make him a cup of tea. You haven't got to do anything else. That is it. That's your marriage. The guy will never, ever cheat on you. The guy will never, ever argue with you. The guy is putty in your hands.

00:21:07:23 – 00:21:19:03
It's easy. Suck a dick. Make a cup of tea. Thanks, lads. Much love. Love the pod upstairs.

00:21:19:05 – 00:21:41:06
So, That's it. Apparently soccer. They can make a cup of tea. Yeah, that'll get you through, get you through the day. Now, I just want to say this is the people's podcast. You submit whatever you want, you send in your voice next. We absolutely love it. If someone's listening to this and they want to retort, send in a voice note.

00:21:41:06 – 00:22:04:18
We'll play it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You think that. Yeah, yeah. That's good. Yeah. What a show. And what if it's a, I mean if it's oh what if it's two blokes, two gay blokes who work both full time jobs, they just get over each other's days.

00:22:04:20 – 00:22:27:06
Yeah, that sounds all right. Yeah. They just 69 straight away in a kitchen. They know what each other need. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I think actually. You know what I think like the guy relationship is peak relationship isn't it. Yeah it is. It really is. It's just it's yeah. Yeah it's good. But now what do you fancy a blowjob?

00:22:27:08 – 00:22:35:03
Of course a do you know this. Yeah. Do you fancy. Well yeah. Yeah. Why are you asking?

00:22:35:05 – 00:22:56:05
We're gay. This is a superpower. Yeah. Okay. Well, we just suck each other all the time. Yeah, I'd love to know, actually, can I please. I'd love to know. Like. Is that right? So you can't. You're not there. No, I well, you know, like it in terms of male and male. When I say gay, I'm just thinking about male and male.

00:22:56:07 – 00:22:59:23
Yeah. Are they.

00:23:00:00 – 00:23:22:21
Are they more sexually active? Because there's two men who, you know, the stereotype is they're always on, which isn't true, by the way, but men always on in general or gay men always on. So the, the, the stereotype would be that women kind of want sex less than men. That's the stereotype. It's not always the case. But that's that's not always the case.

00:23:22:21 – 00:23:47:21
But it is. Yeah, yeah. So do if is it then the case that there are more blowjobs in a male, a male relationship than there are in a heterosexual relationship? I would say 20% more. Yeah. I would like to know. I would like to know how many more. We must be gay. We must. They must be at least 50 gay men listening to this.

00:23:47:23 – 00:24:12:22
50. Yeah. Like if what if 1 in 10 people are gay, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, more than 50. Wow. Yeah, I, yeah, we definitely want to hear hear from you. Yeah. I'm not trying to be offensive. I just want to know the answer. No, no, no, I it's not an easy defensive thing to say. Is there more archers going down in a in a, relationship of what?

00:24:12:24 – 00:24:36:06
What is, what does this mean? Is what do you say? Is there. Yeah. Archers getting archers. What? I don't know where that would come from. I think it's the sound, isn't it? Can sometimes I stop, right? I might be wrong. No no no no no, that's that's good too. Well, I learned it from. I knew about it already, but I learned it all also from listening to unknown team music.

00:24:36:08 – 00:24:49:00
Right. Okay. Good. What does actors mean? Because it's a slang term for a woman who's particularly gifted at or frequently performs fellatio.

00:24:49:02 – 00:25:17:15
Good, good. I'm going to start to use that from now on. The debate about how do you feel about the this hill, like the walking in the door give you guy 20 minutes. Don't you know don't come at him. Don't talk to him to be there. Let him decompress to it's, everyone different. I think it's two way to binary.

00:25:17:15 – 00:25:40:02
I want to speak to my wife when she comes in. Yeah, I look, I, I know that my relationship is so calm compared to some other relationship that and we've not got kids running around that. I when I met my wife, she had willingly were four and six respectively, so. Well, guess we did have that kids running around.

00:25:40:06 – 00:26:06:07
But because she's so calm, I'm quite lucky in that. So I want to talk to her when I get in. I think she would much rather she's like a chilled out bloke. Not a lot. Not, Energy is like a demon needs a bit like that, I would imagine. I'm, you know, by doing this podcast, I feel like where he's been the light and where the women in our relationship.

00:26:06:09 – 00:26:26:01
But no, like the women, there's, the kind of the the guys that just get on with it and we're like, oh, they they love me. Yeah, we're needy. And I'll just touch us. All we want is to be touched. Oh, hey, Patrick, just why don't you touch? I'm in my office upstairs, and I see this. I hear that dull guy.

00:26:26:01 – 00:26:47:09
I fly down those stairs. How is your day? Well, you can do it. Yeah. She's just like, yeah. All right. Good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How about you? What you need to do. What you need to do is just let her be rich. Just give us some. Give us some space. Go down on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:47:11 – 00:27:05:16
It's. I've seen this stuff online. This stuff about. Leave it. Leaving your man. Let him decompress. If he's outside, sitting in the car is because he needs a moment to kind of transition from work to home life. I can understand that. I can, yeah, I can understand that. To be honest, I don't think it's a prerequisite for a blow job.

00:27:05:18 – 00:27:34:08
I don't think all it takes to keep a man happy is a blow job and a cup of tea when you come home. However, it probably does go quite a long way. Yeah, I would say it would go a long way, but yeah, it's not that I wouldn't say it's to be a window, because I know it's not how much I can say about this, but I do know people that, I think they, they're very sexual.

00:27:34:14 – 00:27:57:21
Sexual guys, no matter how many blowjobs that their wives gave them. I don't think it's going to. Well, if they didn't say, hey. Yeah. So I'm not I'm not did satiate them. Yeah. I'm not like super I don't know, there's no part of me wants to go and that needs to be satisfied by that elsewhere. I'm fine.

00:27:57:23 – 00:28:42:11
Yeah. Wasn't I say, though, we with them. The kind of the decompression part when on the other side of it. When my Mrs.. And even like just the flip side of it. But when we had our children there is a 22 month age gap between them. Yeah. Now, if I'm at work and my missus at home with two very young babies during dinner, and you know what, what would normally happen is if, if when my partner is at home and doing the dinner and the house chores and stuff.

00:28:42:11 – 00:29:04:08
Right. And then I come in from work, if I go give me 20 minutes. The other hot day, she's been in the house with two babies all day and then doing all those chores and stuff, right? So often when I got in, I open the door and she would be there and she would just give me one of the kids.

00:29:04:11 – 00:29:26:23
I be like, fucking deal with that. And they're like, all right, fine. I know where I'd know where you're at at the moment. So it's not as easy as to be like, I've had a hard day. You've just been chilling out at home. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. With babies is different. Not to mention the constant and is the constant attention and you require.

00:29:27:00 – 00:29:56:14
It would be exhausting watching out. Imagine. Yeah. What do you think if a woman's at home break that and a man's work in that you should have dinner on the table when you get home. No. But if she's not working, not doing anything, I'm just sitting down watching Band of Brothers. She. I wouldn't say she act like I get in and it's steam is coming off it on the table.

00:29:56:16 – 00:30:36:08
Yeah. Do you know, I mean, not one of those ones, but, I would expect there to be a plan if they should be careful. And they should be like, you should be in the slow cooker, or there should be something happening. Because what? Like most people, when you get home from work, you're you're hangry, famished. And there isn't, if we're if we're starting as soon as I get for the door, if we're starting from ground zero of just turning the gas on and nothing's been chopped and nothing's been done, the, I would be like, like, how's your day been?

00:30:36:08 – 00:30:56:14
Just fishing. All right, well, so you get home from work and there isn't a knob turned not. Yeah. Oh, boiled. Yeah. Yeah, I know, but the thing is, is, well, I'm an adult. I can buy stuff, I can, I can cook for myself. Really. It's not down to her. But this. Does this plan exist, Rick? Does this plan exists?

00:30:56:14 – 00:31:16:24
Whoever's home needs to have started something. How does it work for you? Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you're at home and it should be. I'm working from home, but I'm working, so it's not that I've got an hour to stay. Real work, is it, Rick Israel work? I have to sit on my computer to do stuff. It's not real.

00:31:17:01 – 00:31:42:07
I can't, I can't drag. I've been doing this for six years. Right? It's not real work. Let's be honest, all right? It ain't. It's not in an office. You can stop any time and start the dinner and nothing. Yeah, yeah, they should happen more often. So I don't touch the day. Money is at work. I hope that you have dinner ready for when you get home.

00:31:42:09 – 00:32:03:16
She gets in at half free dinner time as an out there. There's an out there. 1903. That's way too early. No, but what I do is send you home. You home together? Which which isn't really, it's not really help. But if there's any parents out there that are listening that are the dinner makers.

00:32:03:18 – 00:32:25:05
I get stuff out to defrost a mixture of things to defrost. So it gives us choice. Like at the moment we've got some mince beef, we've got some bacon and we've got some chicken breast out defrosting that. So that means the days. Yeah. Yeah. So three days maybe. So if I was to, you know, make a spaghetti bolognese and people walking.

00:32:25:05 – 00:32:48:01
Oh for fuck's sake. I don't want polos. We at that last, you know, if that happens then no one eats and you've got to remake another dinner. So by getting those ingredients out, at least I can say who wants chicken curry tonight? Nah, not for that. Who wants a chili. Yeah. Let's have a chili. So like defrosted and we can get cracking like good stuff.

00:32:48:03 – 00:33:11:12
You know, a little bit of planning, but obviously I could do a lot more in the cooking department. Really? I should do a lot more. Well, I don't you I'm the fake because it's not, it's it's because you're, you think you're the man and that's not your role. No no no no no no no no no. So I see what you're doing here.

00:33:11:14 – 00:33:32:00
And so I, I'm working. Yeah. No no no no no no. We've established it's not work. Let's just keep the cook. It's not work. Right. And let's also establish something. You think you think how is this? Turn around. And to me, you bastard, I'm trying to get into your psyche. What's going on? Why aren't you cooking? There's a reason why.

00:33:32:00 – 00:33:53:01
You know. Cooking. What is it? Yeah, it's because I'm working. Because I'm uploading videos. You know, at the moment, trying to sort this patron out, constantly working towards that. You can stop at 430. I know, but every time that I stop, it's that I feel like I'm losing. This is your is is is your miss is not working.

00:33:53:01 – 00:34:15:23
Then at that point no, it's half past phrases. So it comes down to it comes down to what hangs between your legs. Is that what is no you for? I never took you for a a misogynist. Generally written really, even for 20 years. That's the that's the thing about the top of my list, I think. Look, if you're both you're both working through the day.

00:34:15:24 – 00:34:39:16
She gets home at 330. You have to go. That's kind of fine. She stop working by that point. So you're right. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fine. Generally speaking, the how's that the how dinner is, distribute it in this house two days. I do it for days. Day money does it. Yeah. One days pizza today. That's all right.

00:34:39:18 – 00:35:01:04
Yeah. That's fine. I should be, but, well, that's only one day. It's only one day out. Why don't you just don't take an extra day on? Because I want to say that I want to, But you. Because you do most of the cooking in your Aston. Yeah. No. So whoever's at home will cook. So Ollie gets finishes the work.

00:35:01:05 – 00:35:29:12
She finishes at 430 today. I probably won't be back from the office until maybe 530. So she would have cooked dinner without question. We don't even have to talk about it. She knows. She knows. It's got well, it's got the steam piping hot. No, it's on that table to say the opposite of that. Actually, she knows that when she gets home from work at 9:00, that I've got dinner hot ready for her when she gets home at 9:00 at night.

00:35:29:12 – 00:35:54:22
Every night. Really? I've never missed one unless I. Unless I think she's working and she's cooking. So the last thing she wants to do is fucking cook. And I like it, Rache. I like having something for her to eat when she gets home after finishing work. But also like cooking, it's good. It's need something to do. Stop. I enjoy cooking.

00:35:54:24 – 00:36:10:24
Just don't do it. Make it enough. Really. And, don't enjoy shoving shit in the oven. I'm waiting for the timer to go down like that's boring. You don't want to do that. But do you know what I did the other day? I had a, a delayed a. And I don't eat meat. I don't eat any food.

00:36:10:24 – 00:36:28:18
I'm cooking. But that's that's a side of what you fucking feeling, boy, if you're. What do you do? Sorry. Fillet the wrong way. Fillet sake bones out. Right. It's, I butterfly. Sorry, I'm not what I meant. Say, butterfly. The chicken breast. This is this. I'm not. I'm not talking about block. I'm a massive chef. It's just I've never done this before.

00:36:28:20 – 00:36:49:01
Yeah. And I was like, I wonder if I could do that. The butterfly, the chicken breast stuffed it with mozzarella, pepperoni. Not pepperoni, of course. The sausage, the spicy sausage, the pepperoni, treats her sweet. So treats her. Yeah. A bit paprika. And then. And then, and then shut it and then sort of put a toothpick in there.

00:36:49:01 – 00:37:05:10
Just bake it. That's it. That's what it is. Oh, good. But she doesn't know what's come in. You don't know what's coming. I'll find out the internet and do it as a surprise. Rick, you're keeping guessing. You know what? You don't tell her that. Oh, sometimes you ask for stuff, but not all the time. Oh, and it was surprise.

00:37:05:10 – 00:37:30:23
Oh, I like that. I like that we're in Iceland. Did I get, like, do you have any hills that you would die on? The one things that you are just like, I can't, I'm not I people that stop and this is just something that gets on my nerves. But the hill I die on is what I'm allowed to do to them is, if they're in the middle of a path or that they stop and have a conversation and the world has to move around them.

00:37:31:00 – 00:37:40:15
So the hill that I die on, you should be allowed to sledgehammer no them down the back of the head and nothing happens to you, I.

00:37:40:17 – 00:37:54:15
So hard it it can swing it as hard as you can. They need to if they, if they stop and have a come they they need to get out of the way to make sure that people have. So. So it happened the other day. I'm walking the dog. Right. Frankie's can be a little bit of right. I've got him with me.

00:37:54:15 – 00:38:15:24
That's why I'm looking at you. Good boy. Little fucker. Yeah. He's, He's can be a bit reactive to other dogs. Not necessarily aggressive, but he loves to pull around them. Kind of. When he's playing, he makes this horrible sound like there's. I sounds like he's trying to eat NBA. Right. You're fucking standing down there with you little fucking Chihuahuas.

00:38:15:24 – 00:38:35:01
And you didn't hear the Pomeranians and your fucking Yorkshire terriers. These little shit dogs. Shit dogs, right? Yeah. And you stand in the middle of the path and it's mud everywhere. And the only way I can get past you is where you're exactly standing. And you can see me because you've just looked at me and you've gone back to your conversation.

00:38:35:03 – 00:39:02:10
And so what the. What do you want me to walk through the mud? Is that what we're saying here? Right here on the back of the head? Disrespectful. That's the hill I want to die on. I'm allowed to slide it. Sledgehammer people. I can't bear people that this is going to sound really, unromantic. But couples that hold hands when they walk and they're taken up right by the line of the path.

00:39:02:10 – 00:39:28:13
And I have to walk round you. Plot. I need to get past you. Just walking slow. And I did. And get on my fucking way. Wooden sledgehammer them punch in the back of the it maybe, but not a yeah it breaks basic grammar as well is but it's a deeply offensive if you can't be forced to put punctuation in your sentences when you're talking to me.

00:39:28:15 – 00:39:36:13
Yeah. I, I mean, from your background as well. I think that would.

00:39:36:15 – 00:40:07:15
Yeah, that would rank with me as well. And. Yeah. Well, this is, this is really going to put the cat amongst the pigeons for this one. But I firmly believe that milk first. And your tea. Well yeah I don't I don't have to. We don't have to go for this. Oh don't know what you talking about it. Yeah.

00:40:07:15 – 00:40:32:00
There's a little logistic element to it that doesn't make sense. What would go down. Well because you the strength for your tea is defined by it is created by how much milk you're putting into the water. There is judge. That's not there. Is that right? But you can always add more milk. So you can add you can choose milk already and you can strain the tea.

00:40:32:00 – 00:40:52:16
But we don't put it fucking. You don't fill it up off. You might slip, you might slip. You got Parkinson's. You can't necessarily judge it, can you. So think about them. Milk goes in first with the tea bag and then and then the hot water. And that way you can stew it to the strength of your tea that you like.

00:40:52:16 – 00:41:34:03
And the milk, you can chop it up with milk if you need more milk. And I remember, I know I've got and I've got a link to this as well. There is a scientific study that showed that the compounds of the enzymes in the milk, if you add, I think it's if you, if you add if you don't, if you add milk to boiling hot water, it makes it slightly more bitter straightaway, but with the teabag in with the milk and then adding the hot water, something to do with the temperature, it slightly lessens and the enzymes don't change and it doesn't have that bitter taste to it.

00:41:34:03 – 00:41:57:01
Sounds up to science. So scientific. Me. I've got the link and I'll post it. It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. All you need to know is that milk first, and I know I don't care if you do it British and people are very kind of devout in their beliefs that yeah, that milk has to go last.

00:41:57:03 – 00:42:18:07
But you, you also as well, if you leave, if you do milk loss and you leave the tea bag stew stewing it, guess it's weird. Fucking film on the top. Yeah. If you leave too long, but. Well I will often if I, if I, if we're going to do teas controversial stuff on teas like people I down. I don't want to leave the tea bag in while I drink it.

00:42:18:09 – 00:42:39:03
Yeah. My missus does that. I find I often I'm emptying tea cups of tea and the tea bag would just. I want the tea to be as strong as possible. Like the color of a £0.02 piece. That's that's the color of the tea I like. Oh fucking hell, I don't really like. I didn't milk at all. Like coffee, I drink black, I drink black coffee because I don't like I don't know what add milk adds to it.

00:42:39:03 – 00:42:57:12
I quite like bitter tastes like I like Starbucks. People going to hate this as well. But I like Starbucks coffee because it's bitter. And people say the bitter coffee is like the lesser quality of the coffee bean or something along those. The bitterness. I don't know what it is, but it's a Starbucks. You shit coffee, apparently, but I quite like that.

00:42:57:12 – 00:43:23:07
Bitterness is is what I'm into it, actually. Vaguely. Pancake day yesterday. Did you have pancakes? That didn't even give it? Only did vibes, I didn't bother. Yeah. I was saying to my kids that we would say no. Like, hey, I don't know why we're talking about who's having pancakes and paper. Having, my kids said to me, what would you have on your pancake?

00:43:23:09 – 00:43:42:13
But I personally. Yeah. And and I said, well, he would love pancakes because he doesn't like sweet stuff. No, I love what. And I was like, yeah, the chocolate spread you're putting on, you wouldn't have that. No. Oh, the sugar in that he wouldn't have that and that I really, really I was like, yeah, that's exactly right.

00:43:42:14 – 00:43:55:00
That's weird. Wouldn't eat that. Would need that. I don't actually discuss me. I know, I'll tell you what it to. I bought some chocolates for the other day. They were.

00:43:55:02 – 00:44:13:14
But nothing pie. Chocolates. But they were the size of, you know, you buy a box of chocolates. Yeah. And I bought them in Sainsbury's and they would have those key lime pie, those, these other. And honestly, I had one of them and I was like, this is the most sensational thing I've ever seen in my life. Oh. So yeah, I actually like I went back for another one.

00:44:13:16 – 00:44:30:12
It was, well, what? Chocolate where they look like milk chocolate. But it also had like benefit fill in and like a crunch on the top is what was it Brown. Was it just Sainsbury's. Brown. I can't remember. But I'll try and find and I'll let you know because it was really good. Can I give you my, other cup?

00:44:30:12 – 00:44:58:21
I've got a couple more here too. Yeah, yeah. Go on then. Breaking bad is distinctly average CV. Hahahahahahaha. I will die on that hill. I remember you said it on a previous part and people were on this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, explain it to me what I'm missing. Because I can tell you what I'm not missing is good writing, likable characters that you can relate to and champion.

00:44:58:23 – 00:45:24:13
What right is the most detestable character I've ever seen on the TVs? Wife's a cunt. He the only one of these sort of sort of redeemable is these disabled son. All right. Yeah. And Jesse, who is lovely but broken, like he's decent. I just love watching, garnishes. We've got once you pass the gimmick of a high school teacher becoming a drug dealer.

00:45:24:13 – 00:45:48:13
All original for just a pile of shit. Really, mate? Six out of ten, five out of ten that most. And I won't, I won't be I cannot be swayed on that. That. That's good. No, no, that is good. Because a lot of people are. They would say it's their top, their top watch. I genuinely judge them. If that was the case, I'd go like, you got what you like.

00:45:48:15 – 00:46:17:15
Yeah. That's good. I like what you like, but I think less of you. Sorry, I, I enjoyed it, but I couldn't really fully enjoy it. Just felt like I was watching. It was like crack because every scene was like this enormous cliffhanger. It felt like my heart was like racing. I couldn't really ever sit and enjoy it. It was like a five out of ten page turner.

00:46:17:15 – 00:46:37:10
Swap out ten. But that's fine, fine, fine. That's fine. I, I've got another one as well. And I think that you are going to be annoyed with this one. But I,

00:46:37:12 – 00:46:46:22
And a great tradition, the great British tradition. The Sunday roast must only be in on a Sunday.

00:46:46:24 – 00:47:03:09
But all the trimmings and all that, like, I just, I think because it's such, it's a lot of it's a fantastic dinner and is it's made for Sunday. You need to be off. You know, you can't do it. You can't do a roast. Yeah. I'm with Ricky. I'm with you. You need I wouldn't mind. Yeah. And Saturday you don't feel right.

00:47:03:09 – 00:47:24:05
So night and Sunday is a lazy day. You can just chill out and. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, mate. It was Sunday. I saw this, it was American journalist, and he was like, you motherfuckers are crazy. You do Thanksgiving every Sunday. Basically. You make you make the Thanksgiving meal every Sunday. I don't know some differences, but more or less, it's a roast dinner.

00:47:24:05 – 00:47:47:01
Yeah. What what did you make of that? TikToker? The what's his name? Is it famous? Keith. Keith Hill. Keith. Keith. He so he's basically he goes, we tried it, we raided it. That's exactly what he is. He, he goes we we we we tried it, we ate it, we raided it. And he's like the biggest food reviewer on TikTok.

00:47:47:01 – 00:48:06:10
Massive millions of views. Yeah, that rings a bell. Actually. Big controversy because he's come over to the UK to do a tour of the UK. So he gets recommendations from normal people. Yeah. Which you shouldn't do, by the way, because normal people voting Donald Trump. Yeah. Well let the you know, that's not a good example because if you like Donald Trump it's up to you.

00:48:06:10 – 00:48:32:12
Right. Normal people, you know, it can be swayed into making bad decisions. Two morons can outvote a genius, right? That's what normal people can do. Yeah. So what he's done, he's taken recommendations. This guy and gone to eat in the UK. Do you know what he said? The fry up was okay, but it needs to be seasoned.

00:48:32:14 – 00:48:52:14
You're like, what are you talking about? Like, oh, there is so much flavor in a fry up without adding salt and pepper. You don't need anything more than what you've got there. And he's in each bit of the fry up one by one, a bean. It's gonna, like what? You did it, I saw that. Do you know what?

00:48:52:14 – 00:49:08:11
That's that. That's exactly what I saw. And wasn't it kind of looked like he was at hotel, like. Yeah, he wasn't in a greasy spoon. Yeah, it wasn't a greasy spoon. The right greasy spoon as well. Like you guys, you enjoy caff, what are you saying about the fry? But did you write a fry up and enjoy. And Tottenham.

00:49:08:13 – 00:49:29:07
Well, it's it it serves its purpose. But I wouldn't say it's like a goatee. Try up. Right, right, right out of ten. I'd probably say it's a solid six. A solid six. Solid six. Yeah. If that's a six, I could make a ten at home. And I don't even eat meat, mate. You probably could home fry ups over, everything.

00:49:29:07 – 00:49:57:16
Really? Everything. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And the same with roast in. You go to a car and stuff. Yeah, I like it. You know, you, you got, you know, hitting all the right notes with roast potatoes and Yorkshire puddings and stuff like that. But a home roast on a Sunday. Do you know, I'm going to say this and you're right, Rick, as you're saying this because, friend of the show and friend of ours in real life, Jesse, she is married to Sammy.

00:49:57:18 – 00:50:21:19
And Sammy makes, I think I would say, her, with my wife, Ollie probably make the best fry up, but my best roasting is. I've ever had. Really? Yeah. And they. There's no way you can go in any restaurant this better than what we get. I don't think I've never experienced one. Like what? The way that the food they're eating is, like, this is top tier food.

00:50:21:21 – 00:50:39:09
Yeah. And the. Jess, if you all listen this, do tell us that because I'm sure it does make her feel good, but she she's really, she really good cook along and then and and so I wonder how often I eat I go out to eat and think this is better than what I could do at home. And it isn't often.

00:50:39:09 – 00:51:00:09
Yeah. And I'll pay if you pay a fortune, like if you're going to any, any place Indian place, obviously you can't much that you might be able to but I only Ollie makes a great curry. But if you go to the showroom there's levels to it. Right. But yeah, the olive color is insane as well.

00:51:00:11 – 00:51:33:06
But there's very, very, very rarely you go out to a restaurant. You think this is much better than whatever I can cook? No, I don't think I've ever had a roast in. And I thought that this is better than any ones I've had at home. It's just not made with that love and dedication. And, you know, I mean, not so that is that is absolutely a hill that I would die on the Sunday roast to obviously be on a Sunday, because I do see some midweek people fill it in about now.

00:51:33:07 – 00:51:47:01
Just I won't be having it. I just will not be having it. I've got another one that's going to want people up. Yeah. Come on. Especially like it's going to want their American American listeners up I think. Yeah. Going.

00:51:47:03 – 00:51:52:01
I won't have an American tell me that British food is shit.

00:51:52:03 – 00:52:11:09
Yeah, I agree, because if you're going to be as generalized as that, then we're going to just generalize about your food, which is full of preservatives and sugar, sugar and all that shit that's legally not even allowed to be sold in our country. Yeah. So let's just lessen a generalization, and let's just approach and realize that every country has its pluses and its minuses.

00:52:11:11 – 00:52:35:08
Yeah. And just accept it for your experience. And don't come to London and join to an Angus steakhouse and go, that's British cuisine. Ain't no one in Britain near an Angus Think steakhouse, for fuck's sake. If you want to eat good steak, you go to Hawksmoor somewhere like that. Oh. By yourself? Yeah. Not Angus fucking Steakhouse. No one, no one from England has ever set foot into one of those.

00:52:35:10 – 00:53:06:17
We're often, spoken about that we we eat like we're still in war times. That's that's that's how people perceive the British cuisine, like stews and stuff like that. As I we're still in World War two, which I think is is harsh. It is actually the ash pit and also the British cuisines. One thing like in terms of like, you know, roasting a fish and chips is the obvious stuff.

00:53:06:19 – 00:53:26:12
There are amazing restaurants that aren't defined as English that you can get here. That's some of the best food in the world, right? But largely because of the type of country that England are, specifically London. And that's where most people is. London is probably the most culturally diverse, almost certainly the most culturally diverse place on on the planet Earth.

00:53:26:14 – 00:53:50:22
You won't find, you reckon? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You may. Actually, I think you might be right. You know, 100%, 100%. I don't think it's I don't, I don't think it's even I can't think of anywhere else. Maybe New York, maybe somewhere like that. But yeah, Britain in like in London you're going to me. And what has happened with the cuisine when you go is that you don't walk around looking for English restaurants.

00:53:50:22 – 00:54:16:13
You look, we walk around and you can pick and eat whatever you want, and it's the highest quality of that version you can find. Fine there. So I want amazing thing. Let's celebrate that multi cultural diversity. Yeah, totally. I've got I've got one more I want to get off my chest before we, go and then jump onto the next one.

00:54:16:15 – 00:54:47:08
People don't actually like running. I don't think people actually enjoy running. I think that there is a demon inside them. And when they go running, it, it just was up. That emotion that is trying to come out, it's like, is it called like self-flagellation? You know, when you whip yourself, I think that I think that's what runners do.

00:54:47:10 – 00:55:11:03
I think they feel something deep within them and they run and they torture themselves to keep the kind of keep their emotions intact. Like my I remember my, one of my old bosses that he would run and I could see behind his eyes. There were some demons there, but he said he enjoyed it. There wasn't. There was no enjoyment.

00:55:11:05 – 00:55:41:16
Yes, I think I think people are. They run to escape from something that's there, then dealing with, yeah, running is horrible. It is horrible. No one should enjoy it. No. They possible. No one enjoys running. It's fucking foul. I like to get what body? Because body. Our friend runs more than anyone else. I know what he gets out of it because he's at a point now, and I think he's built a composition in his body.

00:55:41:16 – 00:56:05:06
And his body so used to burning calories that he probably won't get it, probably as long as he sort of keeps up to a certain degree, he's not going to put on the way it was you had before. No, I mean, I think he has. What does he get from it? I think, and I don't want to this is this might sound bad, but, you know, pop psychology.

00:56:05:06 – 00:56:21:21
I think he has a fear of dying. And I feel like if he runs, he's doing his bit to keep himself in check. Do you know what I mean? Why did you say that? He said that before. He hasn't said that. But you do. You know what I think? I think he has. And I've just get that feeling.

00:56:21:23 – 00:56:46:23
And I when I've spoken to him about it as well, I like that's why people stay on top of not fitness. I get like people have enjoyment when they go to an aerobics class, to spin class or like a release of endorphins. Yeah, that's that's fine. That's great. And running as well. Oh, they go gym or they, you know, throwing iron and about whatever that that's I get that and I get the endorphins.

00:56:47:02 – 00:57:10:23
But running I've had the experience for an amount of time. I've gotten to run in and I've had like explosions of endorphins which run. I have had that, but not for like ten years. But what were you running away from? That's the real question. My fat body. Yeah, it's trying to probably. Yeah, probably another demons as well.

00:57:10:23 – 00:57:34:00
I'll look at pictures of me back then when I lost all that weight. I don't think I look good. I looked, I looked, I don't think I look good, I think I lost too much. Do you remember? I can send you some pictures. There was a moment where I lost tons away and yeah, I said, yeah, I think, I think I look at it now and I think in, like in yoga, I'd love to lose that way again and then look at me again.

00:57:34:02 – 00:58:01:12
I look horrible for I lost too much. I would say seven stone for one site, you know that. Okay. How much do you weigh? It's amazing. Right? I swear to God, I swear on my kids lives, right? That's how fucking serious swearing I am. I, I've looked back at a photo, an Instagram photo of me, and, you know, we were going to the football together.

00:58:01:14 – 00:58:20:05
I'd taken a selfie and I thought, I don't know why I look there. Yeah, I like the the white. For some reason, white always goes to my face straight away and then it comes off my face straight away. So I went on my heartbeat app to see what game it was to see the date. Guess how much I weighed?

00:58:20:07 – 00:58:42:17
11 stone for 11 stone for. There you go. Yeah, well. And that was the weight that I was. What was the guy for me? Happy? I think it was Tottenham. Everton. When? October 2022. Maybe it's two years ago. So he's still attainable. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So you find I'm talking about ten years ago.

00:58:42:18 – 00:59:06:12
11 years ago I know I don't want to get there anyway, so. Right. Yeah. But but I've lost weight but I've got a I can is I'm not where I want to be I need to lose about another stone I think I, I've, I can get there for, for what I want to do. Yeah I've, I've started that point and now I've lost weight which I, I've lost about eight, 8 pounds.

00:59:06:12 – 00:59:13:12
So good for you, mate. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I'm on the way I also.

00:59:13:14 – 00:59:42:08
I also, I think whenever I look at myself, I always it's hypercritical, but I'll, I'll end up at any point, I'll look at pictures of myself and think, I don't look good all the time. Yeah. I always, celebrates that. I, I have loads of, have like a, an album of, you know, that time where it's January, you're determined to lose that Christmas fat.

00:59:42:12 – 01:00:07:13
And not only the Christmas fat, it's the fact that led up to that fat anyway. So it's fat on fat. You're at your biggest and white is. And you do those photos in the mirror, the side profile, the stomach profile, that fat back, whatever it might be. Because you're going to do a comparison. So when it gets to July, take some more photos and see how much I've lost.

01:00:07:15 – 01:00:25:09
Oh, you have your body pictures. Let me have a look. And then I give up after about three weeks. So in my camera roll, it's just pictures of me being far different. Different years, none of it skinny from where I was determined to lose it. That's amazing. So it's just so fucking, Great. That's that's absolutely disgusting.

01:00:25:11 – 01:00:45:19
Right. Before we jump into the the next section at the of, do want to tell you that there is no dilemmas this week. No dilemmas. Everyone's great which is which is lovely. There's something only you know. It's called no cock, no coke.

01:00:45:21 – 01:01:31:02
Subject for next week or the topic for next week is a favorite British sayings and where they come from. Fill your boots. Daylight robbery. Let's have a gander. Or a butcher's. I get many a Australian DM's and emails because they don't understand some of the terms that we say, some of the stuff that they see on internet, and there's a lot of, I don't know if you see them on your social of Americans in England or English people in America, where they have different sayings and they just can't quite understand what people are saying.

01:01:31:04 – 01:01:56:15
So I thought we'd do a topic on the most said things that we say that no one really understands, and things that you that you like to say, which are kind of local to you. So if you have any sayings, wherever you're from that you have no idea what British people are saying or you don't know the context of them, send it in to lads.

01:01:56:17 – 01:02:11:12
Anon pod at gmail.com and we will answer all your sayings. Now we are going to jump across to something only you know.

01:02:11:14 – 01:02:17:21
Why something You know.

01:02:17:23 – 01:02:44:05
No cock and no coke. Just started listening to the part from the beginning. I was struggling to sleep tonight and usually in these situations I'd have a tug to send me off to sleep with a cheesy belly. But I've only been. But I've been good to myself and I've saved myself. Suddenly I remembered the pod. I was inspired by your suggestion of giving friends blowjobs.

01:02:44:07 – 01:03:07:06
So a download grinder I would have asked to mate. It was a bit awkward. So I got talking to this old chap who looked a bit of a silver fox and told me to come round to his for a blowjob. I was ten minutes away so off I went. But when I got there he texted me that he couldn't, that I couldn't come in because his roommate was there.

01:03:07:08 – 01:03:32:03
So we'd have to do it in my car instead. So I pulled forward. As I pulled forward the passenger seat of my the door of my three door fiesta to make room and waited patiently for my blowjob buddy. When he finally got in, he looked a bit older and fatter than his photos, and he absolutely stank of stale cigarettes.

01:03:32:05 – 01:03:53:11
To be fair to him, he was a man of his word and proceeded to suck my cock. It wasn't half bad. Yeah, there were no teeth involved and he had a solid technique, but the little guy was just put off by the cars going past and the rubbing of stubble up and down my shaft, so I couldn't get it up.

01:03:53:13 – 01:04:16:03
The mess. You suck. I didn't say anything, but I could sense he was disappointed as I'm a grower, not a shower, and I had sent him some well angled pictures of my dick with no lobe on in sight. We agreed to meet up again when either of us had a free house. He went back into his house and I pulled my jeans up and began the shameful drive home.

01:04:16:05 – 01:04:37:03
On the way home, I tried to get a cake from Mickey D's to take my mind off things, but when I tapped my phone on the reader, it asked me to insert my card, which I'd left at home. So I apologize to the poor minimum wage worker and drove home with no coke but full of poison and shame.

01:04:37:05 – 01:04:53:22
Now I'm back in bed, feeling guilty with a soppy, soft day, and I can feel a slight tingle from the abrasiveness of the old man's stubble, like an extra fine 240 grit sandpaper. Still.

01:04:53:24 – 01:05:14:02
Well, I heard they did say my cock was really tasty, so that's something, I suppose. And that is something I, I know, I mean, hey, there you go. I, what's his name?

01:05:14:04 – 01:05:40:19
I didn't know that. I suppose I'm naive, right? But I didn't know there was this big culture of men meeting up and sucking other. Yeah. And, I mean, I don't know this person. Why would you know about it, though? It's not. I know, I just thought I was a man of the world, but there is there is a lot of.

01:05:40:21 – 01:06:00:18
I mean, I don't know if this person is gay even. It just might have been a one off thing. Oh, I'm asking you, I didn't. When I read the story, I was like, hello mate. I would read this out, but it feels like you've made this up. He sent me screen grabs of the conversation he was having, growing the gentleman.

01:06:00:18 – 01:06:21:02
He was not making this up. I was like, did you to it? I was so I imagine I said I would read this out, but are you sure this is real? We just. And then he said, and he said back there was this great grabs. I was like, G, do you know he's right? I thought it might not be real.

01:06:21:04 – 01:06:39:14
Like when you when you was, when I was this and this was the bit when he was paying for his coke. Because I'm pretty sure when you're using your phone, it doesn't ever ask you to put your card in. Yeah. No, I just thought it might be. I guess that might be an America thing. I don't think that I would want a blowjob, so much so that I would find.

01:06:39:15 – 01:07:16:23
I think he's or I don't know. No. And then drive to his house and then just try and do it in someone you might call IndyCar. And even walking into a house you don't know. Yeah, yeah, I it's just tea. And the other submissions that we've had, people have walked into houses like glory House. Two people have just put their Dixons a house and they've walked into houses, been instructed to put that one, was instructed to put their dick for a house, was instructed to put their dick behind a curtain.

01:07:17:00 – 01:07:41:17
Yeah. I remember on this project. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is I like this is why I'm like, I didn't know this happens. And even if I was well, I mean, I say if I was, I am straight, but I wasn't in a relationship and I wanted to hook up with someone like, would I be like, oh, let's go on.

01:07:41:19 – 01:08:00:23
I don't know what people don't like any more fashions, but it doesn't happen. I mean, suck me up. Yeah, because I don't think like, women are much less open to that. This is what I'm going back to, this conversation, this being in this pod. Yeah. With men. The reason why Grindr is much more promiscuous is because men are more up for it.

01:08:00:23 – 01:08:25:20
And that's what I'm saying is like, right, right, right, right. I'm in a gay relationship. Are you just sucking each other off? Because that's what you want. But what or do you get? Does it stop? I don't know, I don't know. That's that's the play someone if you're listening and you are gay, please email. Listen, we just want to know.

01:08:25:22 – 01:08:54:00
Obviously we're in. This is our 72nd episode. Not one name has ever been read out. Ever. You're in a safe space. And anyone else, if you're listening something of you know and dilemmas. If you've got something on your chest and you want to get it off and before if you've been apprehensive, if you've been a bit scared, if you think, can I really admit that?

01:08:54:04 – 01:09:12:19
Can I really talk about the skeletons in my closet? You can. And this is your platform, so send it into lads and on pod at gmail.com. And until then we will see you next Monday.

01:09:12:21 – 01:09:36:09
On the night, hazy light band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music I. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:00:01:23 – 00:00:33:05
Ricky, have you seen the, the new banger that's out there on YouTube? I have actually, really? What is it? I don't know how you pronounce the artist name. I know the way. School songs. Good. Cheat. Chichi. Chichi. Chichi. Chichi? Nah. Maybe Chichi enough is, just a China. Just a China. China. It doesn't matter. And the name?

00:00:33:07 – 00:00:55:22
Peggy. That's a song. That's a song. And literally, my daughters were telling me about a song last week, and they're saying, dad, if you heard about this song. And I was like, no, they said, it's called Peggy. You don't love it. My daughter's 11 and 13, all right. And they were telling me about this song and how it's disgusting what the person say.

00:00:55:22 – 00:01:11:08
And I know that. And I was just like, yeah, I'll get round to looking at it. I'll get around to it. I hadn't seen it and then I, I saw it. Yeah. I mean I've seen it about 17 times.

00:01:11:10 – 00:01:26:14
I can't, I don't know what. So in like what is so because I don't know what it is. It is it's hard. So I'll take you I take loads of people that don't know. I'm going to play you a minute of the song and then we'll carry on this conversation, okay? Okay.

00:01:26:16 – 00:01:34:14
I told you quit and you tried to get rid of me.

00:01:34:16 – 00:01:50:00
Pegging that man at the back of the bus playing that three six Mafia. I'm going to fill out this noise of dust. These niggas always talk and tell them niggas I'm gonna fuck I got an Asian. You from West trynna pick me up in a lumberjack I told that man that I love show man because I wanted cheese.

00:01:50:00 – 00:02:08:24
And I'm putting these niggas in that. If I get this I'm gonna repeat it. Just got a triangle strip last week and I'm out and I cannot do this. I left and going right, he ain't going to fuck me in some period. I'm in the back of the county party and he's walking the Pope in the park. I got him back to the spot, my spots in the back of the family talking trash these men when I act like a beast.

00:02:09:03 – 00:02:30:08
So I put these men in the cage. I made a cool down, dude. I say oh my niggas a button all over his face. Shorty. Right there go. Lovely. Yeah. So look, too many people have watch that in two weeks. I don't get it. I'm trying to find a way to articulate why people are doing that, why so many people are doing it.

00:02:30:10 – 00:02:59:14
It's shocking. Right? It's shocking. I'm not like sitting here going, oh my God, this is terrible. It's not that. It's just not common in for a female in the UK to be as provocative, but it's beyond provoked. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like this is weird. What somebody weird about this is something about it that is just off center.

00:02:59:16 – 00:03:23:03
And it's. And when I'm when I say off center, I'm off. Like a lot of, you know, tons of hip hop and, has, you know, debatable. You know, a lot of it is not a lot of it. Some of it, like DMX, for example, raps about some horrendous things, as did Eminem, as did biggie write some stuff that is not acceptable, like I'm talking about sex with minors, rape, murder, all of that stuff.

00:03:23:05 – 00:03:46:24
And it's kind of it was seen as art and it is art, whereas this is like this girl from London who sounds pretty well-educated in terms of the way she speaks. It's almost like she's come from she hasn't come from the ghetto, you know what I mean? So just come from a rough background. You can hear it in her voice, the way she enunciate that she's come from a place of insecurity, I think.

00:03:46:24 – 00:04:13:20
And wealth. Yeah. And obviously she chosen to do so. She knows what she's doing. I think that's that's the this. So this is what I, we were having a discussion in my house about. It's kind of like what what are we doing now. Like what how is the world playing out? So in order to get discovered, social media is a free tool.

00:04:13:22 – 00:04:41:20
And in order to get discovered and get traction on social media, you can't be. I mean, you can, but it's very rare that it happens that if you are neutral, if you're vanilla, it has to be. You have to make someone really angry. It has to be something really derogatory. It has to provoke comments and reaction and engagement.

00:04:41:22 – 00:05:12:20
And this exactly does that thing. So now everyone is comment on it, everyone is sharing it, everyone is talking about it, and it's not for the right reasons really. So it doesn't matter because they've got they've got that kind of, spotlight on them that they wanted. And once you get a leg up on that and then you bring out your Nexon and then you bring out a podcast, and then you bring out your own makeup line.

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So it's it's like, that's how you do something so wild to get the attention. And then you pivot if you just what if you have audience, you have a career, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Whether it's, positive. If it is, if it's, you know, seen as a positive thing. This is why rage baiting on online is so successful and so many people do.

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It is because it brings an audience and you bring an audience and suddenly you make you can make a lot of money, right? And 2 million views in two weeks is significant. It's also weirdly not awful. It's like, thank me. Like I'm pegging that man at the at the back of the bus, right? Yeah. And we're not talking like she's a lyrical genius.

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But there's also there's something about this captivating to watch. And then on top of that, she's saying these explosive things that are going to make people go, what the fuck? I'm this there's a lyric where she's saying something like, she gets fucked on her period or something like that. And I think she says that she's you're not having sex.

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To me, that's on my period. I think she says, right. Okay. Yeah. She said, she says, I'm in this right. Then I'm in the I mean, I'm in the back of the car with your daddy, and he's twerking and pop in a perc. I got in bend in his bum like spice in the back of the van.

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And they stop and search. These men want to act like a beast. So I put these men in a cage. I made a call. Now, two days later, my N-word, a possum passing all over his face. So what's that is? Created a so she says, ain't your daddy suggesting my dad or whoever this is that she's she's putting him in a cage and she's calling him the men that she knows to come and come on his face.

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That is mental. Especially if you actually sit there. Visualize that if she died in a cage, this trust. Yes. I don't know what else to say about that. Really? He's mad that your daughters have seen it before you, you know, I mean, it is. And the thing is as well about it, I. I'm trying not to be that dad.

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I know that eventually I will turn into him as to be not my children. I've got to say this. This is bloody disgusting. This is, you know, all of that. At the end of the day, they do. Hey, they're young. When I. When I was a kid, I was listening to fucking Eminem or whatever it might be that was trendy at that time because of the lyrics or what they were saying, or doing the music videos and roses in secret because of all the swearing.

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Like if my dad and my mom went in the house, I'd have it all not listen to it in my bedroom. But if they were, I put my headphones in and just listen to that. I know that was nothing. It's not. It's like, that is this is what it is. And and rap as well. I know it's cause some controversy.

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Yeah. I mean that was an even then that came out. Oh yeah. It's worse than that. It feels. Well I don't know. It's just it maybe because it is it because it's women. They've got the power and people are a bit like, well this is all about female dominance isn't it. It's all about the dynamic has changed. Yeah, I guess so.

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But what do you mean? There's an additional amount of, critique over it because it's a female doing it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That that's a weapon for her. That's that's something she can use, for sure. It always is about dehumanizing. And what's the word, emasculated men. Yeah. And then and then there's a subtext in society that there are lots of men that are into that on a sexual level, I think.

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I think there might be as well, you know, there's tons in there. Yeah. You're one of them. Your mum doesn't. Your mom does it to me anyway. What are we talking about is the, we've got music.

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On them night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Highs quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music are. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Hello and welcome to lads. Anonymous is episode 54. I'm Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates. One main topic. We answer your dilemmas. Your confessions are featured in something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav? All ready for Christmas? No no no not really. No I've got I've got I haven't I've got some stuff to do.

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Well I when the time comes out when Christmas Day is on Wednesday in it. Yeah. No I'm not ready. What. Are you ready? No. Fuck no man. Fuck no I hang on. So you're deciding instead of to get ready for Christmas? Go on lads, piss up today pretty much. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I like that's that's I can't and then tomorrow can't do it tomorrow.

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Obviously Spurs planned so. Exactly. Sorry. At the time of recording. Recording. It's on Saturday. It's coming out on Monday. Yesterday Liverpool we played Liverpool. We beat Liverpool. Yeah. So when are you going to get ready. You're going to take today Monday. Well I have to do what. Yeah Monday and Tuesday. Same Monday and Tuesday is basically going to be my I've got all the presents.

00:11:06:07 – 00:11:31:24
Just need to wrap them. But the main thing I need to do is the Christmas shop food. I haven't done, the food haven't done, but we're away. So we're at my Mrs. Parent's house. Christmas for Christmas Day. Yeah. And then Boxing Day in the lunchtime. But it's going to be the second Christmas dinner. My Mrs. Auntie.

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Then Boxing day evening, my family come over to mine, which will be more of, kind of cold meats and, you know, are you going to take the cold meats from your mother, your mother in law's house at home? No no no no no no no no. So I need to go out shopping and get a joint of gammon and roast beef or whatever it might be that win.

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So I'll probably cook that Boxing Day. Maybe it's just not gonna be cold. I'm going to be I don't know why I'm getting stuck up on this, but it's not going well. Yeah, it will be. It will still be warm if you cooked it on the on the same day. I'll cook it in the morning and leave it out on the side to cool down all day.

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It will be cold right? 24 hours. You right. I'll do it on Christmas Day then.

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The Christmas day. Come on. But all the little nibbles as well, because I always go fucking overboard. And I said this on the quickie with Ricky midweek pot, talking about your Christmas stories and how you spend your Christmas days. And I was saying at the beginning that I, I'm kind of like, ready. But every Christmas I always go, I'm fucking nuts with the food.

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Like, the whole world shuts down for two weeks. We can't go anywhere and we have to live and eat and get all the best stuff. And it's ridiculous because I buy so much food and Christmas and January, I want to get back on the health and I want and I, I don't want to. It's a new year, a new me, a new body, and my carpets are chock a block with the bad stuff.

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And I think I need to eat it because I don't want to waste any money. So I'm munching my way through a sack of ready salted peanuts. But it's already January to 12. How many more peanuts can I fucking eat? I'm not wasting it. So then it gets to 50. So you'd rather put like. And I'm six 7000 calories in your body rather than license and peanuts.

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That's absolutely. Yeah. Yeah absolutely. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. We're, we're on the same page and that always happens every year. So I've left as late as possible to get the Christmas food so that we're not munching away all the way through December. And I got Christmas Day will be. That's the fun of it, right? It's got loads of food in the house.

00:14:03:00 – 00:14:22:04
You're just buying enough food for one Boxing Day? No, for that, for that Christmas Day to New Year for a week. And you don't think so? You got you going to be a little bit more spendy with it or you just. Yeah. Same amount. Yeah I will be a bit more spending spendy. What what kind of products might you get.

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Like you buy some after eight months in. Oh yeah. Standard. Standard. Yes I'm talking about buy normally right. Yeah. There's more of the, you know, picky dinners, those types where it's like everything in breadcrumb. Anything I say in breadcrumbs is fucking going in my basket. Anything in batter is going in my basket. All that stuff. Twig. It's Pringles.

00:14:48:09 – 00:15:11:01
Gotcha. Well, all of that shit. Have you ever done your Christmas shop before? Oh my my I'm was my dad's done it and we're going to is. Oh okay. So but yeah. But what about the time between Christmas and New Year. You still just going get ready. That's every day. Well. The shop. Sorry if we can go.

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I don't know, yeah, I don't know me either. I, we probably will get some stuff somehow that I, I'm not. I haven't bought or even bought enough presents yet. I can't think about that stuff. Oh. He's working right. Oh. Anyway, so it's not like we're off. Oh, right. Man. I'm working. She's working. So it's not really very Christmassy, but.

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Well, they're on, the midweek pot. We have, a quickie with Ricky. There's someone at the, they used a wonderful turn of phrase apples of the earth for describing potatoes. And I was like, that is. That is superb. And I found out since that, everyone has been asking me, apples of the Earth is actually a is what they call potatoes in France.

00:16:00:21 – 00:16:28:08
I didn't know that. Pondicherry or Pondicherry, I'm that's what it translate to. And then this person went into slagging off potatoes and saying they're the most overrated thing going. That's who said that. Yeah I yeah. Exactly. Say overrated. They're literally the most that versatile food you can have. I was furious, I was bloody furious. Absolutely furious. What.

00:16:28:08 – 00:16:51:11
So I mean overrated did not lots of people eat potatoes like everybody eats potatoes? I can understand for how popular they are and how it is quite a basic taste. Those two shouldn't be the same, general. I mean, I can understand that that. But they're just so useful in the kitchen. Their point is that it's not the potatoes people love is what you add to it.

00:16:51:15 – 00:17:10:15
If you have a jacket potato, you have loads of butter. And so yeah, yeah, if you have mashed potato it's cream and it's, you know, so it's like yeah. But don't you add seasoning to everything. Yeah. It's like you. So he's just walking around only and stuff. It doesn't have to be season.

00:17:10:17 – 00:17:27:05
He's just by loads of ready meals because there's loads of salt and stuff in that. I think I don't get that and I don't abide by that at all. I think he's just being a contrarian. I think you're. Yeah. So I know they're definitely listen to they say this is fluff. And do I know they say you do know them.

00:17:27:05 – 00:17:59:09
Yeah, yeah. Whoever you are, you just fucking shut up. Shut up. We had some entries from Australia. How they celebrate their Christmas, Norway and other traditions that people had realized that weren't normal. So one of them was, a person had emailed in to say that when they when they were younger, they'd go up to bed that go up the stairs and they would him and their siblings would all sing Jingle Bells, and that's to Santa.

00:17:59:11 – 00:18:23:00
They're going to bed. So when they wake up in the morning, presents will be under the tree. When he got with his first girlfriend, they lived in a flat and that person had children. And he asked, how is how did you do the going up the stairs bit for the Jingle Bell song because you've got no stairs. And how will Santa know that this they can leave presents under the tree?

00:18:23:00 – 00:18:33:09
And she looked at him dumbfounded. I say, what are you going on about? And it was it. And it was that at that point he realized that it was only a tradition in his house.

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And he thought that everyone was doing it, so everyone did. That's what everyone does every Christmas. That's how everyone knows. And it this I know this isn't very Christmassy, but it reminds me that that, that clip of that, it's a podcast. I don't there's so many podcasts, too many podcasts now. Right. Anybody who just wants that has an opinion you're going can start a podcast.

00:18:53:07 – 00:19:13:20
The irony of this being a podcast is not lost on me. But but he's this bloke was like this broken woman, we're talking about going for a poo. And he was he goes, you touch shit every time you poo. And she's like, no you don't. Yes you do. Here's how do you shit. And she goes like normally like everybody else.

00:19:14:00 – 00:19:35:01
You goes so you don't poo into tissue. You, you poo straight into the water. And she's like, yeah, everyone please straight into the world. And he's entire life he's been catching the poo from his bum and then putting in the work of a scene. That clip at no point in his entire life go, why am I catching this poo?

00:19:35:03 – 00:19:53:19
And then matches the mess that's come out of your bum? And every time you like you, you can't catch that. You cannot catch that. It's impossible. It reminded me of a time where you know where like you go round to people's houses and you people have traditions where they do things in their house and you think that's fucking weird?

00:19:53:19 – 00:20:13:15
We don't do that in my house. I always remember, and he takes me back. When I first went round to my Mrs. Family's house for a Chinese, and they ordered their Chinese, and it was just the usual run of the mill stuff. Chicken chow mein. Yeah, we get that, sweet sour chicken booze. We get that beef curry.

00:20:13:15 – 00:20:34:16
We don't get that. But I can get down. Would be curry. That's fine. And that. Oh, lovely. Absolutely lovely. And then I got to the last container and opened it. I said to my missus, the fox, that she went, it's bean sprouts. I said, well, just bean sprouts. I said, I know it's bean sprouts. Be your family. Order a whole tub of bean sprouts just on their own.

00:20:34:20 – 00:20:58:14
She's like, yeah. And I was like, that is fucking weird. I've been sprouts inside. Yeah, you do, you do. But oh, fucking tub of bean sprouts a of the bean sprouts. Is it summer? Yeah, I've got a taste there right now. Ha ha ha ha. And every time I garage toys sure enough to have a bean sprouts. What is going on?

00:20:58:14 – 00:21:18:06
This fucking weird man. That is meant that the is meant to it. It is like they each have a little bit of bean sprouts. And why does it barely taste of anything? They're just stuff to add. Add substance. I mean, I like the crunchiness of them, but do you need help? A tub of bean sprouts? I don't know, I don't think so.

00:21:18:08 – 00:21:38:17
Pods have a bean sprouts on their own. Dinner. Before we jump into the topic today, this is going to be the last pod before Christmas as a Christmas present. If you haven't already gone on to Spotify giving us a five star rating review, can you please do so? Whether you're a new listener, an old listener caught a few episodes.

00:21:38:17 – 00:22:14:20
The more ratings we get, the better the podcast does, and it makes me feel better anyway, so just go ahead and do that. So thank you very much. And now we are going to jump into today's topic of music. When you growing up. Yeah. Blitz your house a music house. Like was there always tunes playing. Yeah yeah we'd have but my dad was a bit of a audiofile in that, he always loved music, but he also spent a fortune on, like, hi fi equipment, like me speakers he bought.

00:22:14:22 – 00:22:38:09
I even to this day, still expensive. There will. I can't remember the exact brand of them, but they were like bows. They were small bow square speakers. And you had four of them stacked. And then there's, like, surround sound for the television. There was also like when when we watched the movie, like Saving Private Ryan or something, you have to switch the surround sound on, and it'd be like you were in the middle of the movie as well.

00:22:38:10 – 00:23:02:24
Oh, yeah. Yeah, he spent a lot of money. And then and then obviously he was like the first. So so younger listeners won't they may know what this is, but it was the first version of what is now what would have been an iPod. So it was a Sony Sony Walkman. And it meant that you could play cassettes as you walked around.

00:23:03:01 – 00:23:20:20
Oh shit. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. You had a cassette player when you was a kid, right? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Tape, tape. So he. But he bought the very first ever Sony Sony Walkman. It's this blue and plastic. And so we had that in the house and I would walk around with that. On playing my favorite music or whatever it might be.

00:23:20:22 – 00:23:35:03
And we would sit down and he had loads of CDs. So we would sit down. I would sit down with the tape, blank tape on a tape deck, and I'd be just picking songs that I like from all these CD's and making my own Little Mix tapes and stuff like that. I used to spin off, let's call it A.

00:23:35:04 – 00:24:06:17
You spent hours doing it, hours and hours and hours and then right on the tape deck, right, writing all the track listings. It's like, yeah, that's yeah, that's pretty cool. I was never into it. As in, no, not into as in that way there would be the God, this is so fucking old man that you remember when you would have a blank tape in your cassette player and you'd be listening to the radio, and then you play, you press play and record at the same time, then everything off the radio.

00:24:06:19 – 00:24:23:20
Yeah. Yeah. That I mean, that was that, that was the kind of, the maximum I would go it would be really annoying because he's not talking over the end of the song and we knew you like, did that on purpose so we could do that. Yeah. But I don't fucking care. Like, with your with your old man.

00:24:23:22 – 00:24:48:22
Was he into a genre of music or was it just a, he just played everything, typically, sort of grunge, rock, grunge, anything kind of. He liked a lot. So Seattle was like the hub. What? What? Your dad. Yeah, really? I would say his favorite bands growing up would have been when? When I was young enough.

00:24:48:24 – 00:25:18:08
So when I was aware of the music he was listen to, it would have been Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Pearl jam, Smashing Pumpkins. No. Fuck off. Really? Yeah. He loved, you know. So that's why it's a fucking done in that part. That's where my. So anything he listened to, I listen to. That's why I listen to you know and then I so I would, I would get into my own taste of like I went into sort of green green day and, Guns and Roses moved away from grunge, you know.

00:25:18:09 – 00:25:33:22
Yeah, yeah. My love to la, Silverchair. I love Madonna. Yeah. Also loves, R&B. So he would really. Yeah. Mary J by Blige's favorite, I think.

00:25:33:24 – 00:25:54:18
Seriously, he loves that's to this, Mary J. Blige. Female singers. Any folk female singers he loves. He loves them. I mean, my dad still swap music weekly to this day. That's amazing. The last thing we got, we're into listening both together is Wonder Horse. At the moment. We're both listen to the wonderful Seven. Yeah, I've noticed that you've been, one of the who listen at about this wicked.

00:25:54:19 – 00:26:15:07
Well, what about your out there? Let me see. She she she she helped me get into music as well. Right, right. But because she, she would buy me music, she was in she's I don't I wouldn't say she was into music. I think she, she goes about a day listening to music on a daily basis. But, but she would she bought me my first Beatles albums.

00:26:15:09 – 00:26:30:18
Oh. Nice. Yeah. It was a sort of early Beatles which had some German stuff on there, which they didn't have, you know, but they recorded in German. They, they recorded English and they had German as well. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. They based out, I think they were based in Hamburg or somewhere like that. And they. Yeah.

00:26:30:18 – 00:26:49:14
Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. Recorded some of their songs in, in German. You can still go on YouTube. It's sort of. So, probably never seen, some of the, so yeah, she, she bought with that. She bought me a Bjork album when I was younger and stuff. So, yeah, I used to listen to all of that.

00:26:49:14 – 00:27:18:18
My brothers would buy music for me for Christmas, so. Yeah, I've always, always got my, my mum. So, again, my mum wasn't into music that much, I'd say. But what she was always playing, what I can remember, Fleetwood Mac, which is fucking top tier. Yeah, absolute top tier. What's your favorite Fleetwood Mac? Hum. I would say rumors.

00:27:18:18 – 00:27:41:12
So yeah, I probably, I'd probably say rumors because I've. And I've actually gone to see Fleetwood back the best tribute act. And they were doing rumors. Yeah. Fucking brilliant. I bet they sounded almost identical. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, a lot of people give tribute acts a lot of shit they shouldn't. But it sounds exactly the same.

00:27:41:16 – 00:28:04:23
You. Most people won't get to see Fleetwood Mac play everybody. So, you know, I think if we haven't spoken about this, but they have a festival right where it's all it is, the entire festival is tribute acts and oh my God. So it ends up with the best festival you could ever imagine because they've got tribute acts of the best bands.

00:28:04:23 – 00:28:32:02
So there's obviously there's one that's about like The Cure, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac. I don't know. The actual names of the bands currently is Oasis, blur, fucking all of the like the Biggest Dream, Elton John, all the like the biggest festival you could ever imagine. It's just not them. But it sounds exactly like them in the UK. Yeah, I'll find out what it is because I always like to that I was genuinely thinking that would be a laugh.

00:28:32:04 – 00:28:47:20
We'd go there, you'd have a massive singalong and you know, you just take enough drugs to not know that they're not there, they're not real. But really, then you don't mean the best. I just think if you if you just take is snob in a way, I just I mean, we're just gonna have a laugh and I just enjoy it.

00:28:47:21 – 00:29:05:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going around going. Yeah. I went to see Oasis at the weekend. I went to an Oasis and they sounded exactly the same and I'm so far away it might as well have been them. He probably sounds better than Liam does. Probably. Yeah, probably. I'll be. I'll be up for that room. I always remember it for my mum.

00:29:05:05 – 00:29:46:18
She even had. She loved this, a so much. And it was obviously all the time and that she fancied him, but she had all these tapes. She even had his, VHS performances. The one and only Mick Hucknall. Simply Red, by my love, simply Red eye. For some reason I was scrolling through something the other day, and there was an old bit of footage where simply Red were playing, and it was more of a stripped back kind of strings and classical, but it was more focused on Mick Hucknall, his voice like in the, in a theater or something.

00:29:46:20 – 00:30:09:03
It was fucking insane. Yeah. He's he's vocals were just they were fabulous. Honestly. So good. You a bit of a Hucknall. Oh would. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's cracking. He was a bit of a go back in the day as well. So low is about me. It's mental in it. You just think like you look at him and he's not like he's a bit of an odd looking bloke.

00:30:09:03 – 00:30:30:00
And he really, well, a long, red, curly hair. He's got, a ruby in his front teeth. And if you just went Mick Hucknall, I see sounds. He looks like that. Anthony. Then I know what that means. Right. But you know what it means. That's what he looks like, that noise. But, you know, you're you're simply red. Were massive.

00:30:30:02 – 00:30:53:19
Massive. Yeah. They've got a couple of. Okay. Look up. Yeah. There you go. Couple I'll give you that. Yeah. They have got a couple. They have. Well is that something happened at the fairground? No. Oh, coming home to you. Even if I know I can make it. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. Day to be fair. All day for that one.

00:30:53:19 – 00:31:23:11
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. I've got some bangers. Yeah. My old man he used to listen to. I don't know what kind of music it was, but one of his favorite artists is Kid Creole on the coconuts. And they used to wear zoot suits. And I don't know what fucking like funk. So maybe that. And so when I was growing up and I'd go around to my dad's house, he would be playing that.

00:31:23:13 – 00:31:46:04
And it was more of these bands, the funk soul bands that he would listen to. But again, he wasn't really, like massively into music. My mum always says that the first song that I ever danced to or was listening to was Bob Marley. I used to play in the house quite a lot. Yeah, there is a certain song, I can't remember what it is now.

00:31:46:06 – 00:32:07:15
So there is, there is all this also kind of, some reggae being played in the house, but because I was young, I don't really remember that. And then my dad's other favorite band, you know, who is Petro? Pet Shop Boys. So I always used to love for you because if how much you liked Pet Shop Boys?

00:32:07:17 – 00:32:36:09
Yeah. It was. I always found it really funny because typically I think about you and I think of Oasis. I think of blur, and I think of, like, indie pop. Yeah. That's of, like, a block party. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo and. All right. And that's going out. And you know in the mid 2000 and you know the music we'd listen to and just get off on, that's the gate of itit's too and got down borderline and it was all strokes.

00:32:36:09 – 00:33:01:03
It was. Yeah, it was the Smiths. It was just great indie singalong stuff. And the hours and hours we'd spend in the borderline just fucking up in the best time, singing our hearts off, singing our hearts out. It it was, it was magical. And I don't think we realized how good it was at the time. So you saying that now and saying the word borderline, I am getting.

00:33:01:05 – 00:33:29:16
I'm sorry. That was. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I also sad like the that's gone and like what. Think about how many nights would you spent in the book. Like every Saturday. It felt like every Saturday for about four years. Yeah. I'm borderline there. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And and we would go there and we'd spend three hours, four hours there till the lights came on and you would in the room, the club would still be rammed when the lights went on.

00:33:29:16 – 00:33:54:21
That's how much of a good time everyone was having. It was wicked. Oh, there's a picture I've got where? I think I was with our mate Tim and my brother Ryan, and we were in there and I'm singing at the top of my lungs with my eyes closed. Where do you do that now? Where does that happen? I don't know, I think that, like, there are no clubs in Milton Keynes, people or no young people aren't going clubbing.

00:33:54:21 – 00:34:18:00
Also, no there's not. And even when I was growing up, that indie scene, there was a bar called Bar Centro. And on a Thursday night for two hours they would play Oasis. And that was my that was your only fix to go and see an indie band in Milton Keynes, where you can have alcohol and be roommates on a Thursday night for two hours.

00:34:18:02 – 00:34:33:17
So there was never really that kind of vibe in Milton Keynes. And then when I came down to London and then borderline and other bars that we went to, it was like, fuck, you know, it's like these places are playing all of our music all the time. Why are we talking about it? I was going off on a tangent.

00:34:33:17 – 00:34:54:03
I was about to say something else. Pet Shop Boys, right? Yes. Rick, I really want to talk about the Petrol Boys. So I always appreciate, like. But the petrol was a decent. Yeah, but it's not. It's not my cup of tea. Really? And you was always banging on about a Pet shop boys you love. Not always find it hilarious that you just.

00:34:54:05 – 00:35:14:17
And pet Pet Shop Boys order it. And then I saw them live in Primavera last year. One of the best gigs I've ever been to in my life. They were so good they got here, boy. But the visual aspect of it was incredible. Like the backdrop, what they'd done there, their look, the shit they wearing, some match it and.

00:35:14:17 – 00:35:34:09
But this is so good. Oh. What's his name again? I can't remember the lead singer. Yeah. Tennant something someone said. Yes. They've the.

00:35:34:11 – 00:35:52:08
No. Neil Tennant. Nelson. Yeah, I know that guy. His voice is impeccable. It's exactly the same when they. When it was, they could have been playing it off a CD. It was that good. It was. It was unreal. And was day two of festival. My brother wasn't really feeling it. My wife never listened, said Pet Shop Boys.

00:35:52:08 – 00:36:11:05
And I was like, I'm going to listen to this for Ricky because if he was here, they'd be listen to it and I would love to move in. I knew every words. Must every song was having 2000 people buzzing. It was great quality, mate. Yeah. Shop boys, I've never put Pet Shop Boys on to listen to it. I wouldn't, but for that, when they come on in the playlist.

00:36:11:07 – 00:36:31:03
Yeah, he's one of those smile on my face think me old man, he loves them day. And yeah, absolutely love them. To go back on what you're saying with your influences and your brothers. When I was growing up, my sister, she listened to R&B and swing and shit like that, and I was just like, this is fucking guff.

00:36:31:08 – 00:36:50:21
I'm not listen to this stuff. And then my cousin. So when I grew up, I was really close to my cousins and they listened to hip hop, but it wasn't like mainstream hip hop. It was like underground. But I would never heard of any of the bands this Alec, Alec and Ryan. Yeah, I went into that and I didn't.

00:36:51:01 – 00:37:12:01
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So so I never really kind of was influenced by them either. And obviously like you know, it's just that their cousin come around after you listen to what he says and these fucking basic bitch music, guy around that, that probably be their stuff. And I'll be like, I literally have no idea what this is a what's going on.

00:37:12:01 – 00:37:34:12
Come on. Like, no, not you never know. No. They knew that as well. Yeah. So like with your brothers that you're quite I mentioned it previously on the podcast that always feels that there's like a bit of a, a competitive edge of new music. Like, you are this band, though. Oh. Competitive edge. Yeah. Like I introduce it to this.

00:37:34:14 – 00:37:57:05
No, I said I saw the xx first and I did and I said that, which I, which I always quite liked, it was quite a thing of like digging each other out and then finding the next band, and then someone would find a band by everyone tickets, and then you'd all go to it, and then you'd argue about who you saw first, but then I maybe I can't.

00:37:57:06 – 00:38:12:10
I know what you're talking about. There is an unwritten competitive. I mean, do you have it as well? Ring? Oh, I will say to you, listen to this band and you just won't listen to him like I've told you about. We spoke about one day. I was about 50 times. And you've just not bothered. Yeah, yeah. Why do you do that?

00:38:12:12 – 00:38:34:08
I don't know, I actually have that written in the, in the running order for this. I don't know why. Like, it's about new music, new films, new TV shows where it's so kind of everyone is talking about it. Everyone is talking about Breaking Bad, Breaking Bad, everything. But obviously, you know, and it goes on and on.

00:38:34:08 – 00:38:52:17
And then people say, have you seen? I'm like, no. And it drives me further away when, you know, you may be looking about like, no, I know, and it's not because I want to be contrary or I want to be out on my own, a lone wolf or whatever. I just it just puts me off when everyone is talking about it.

00:38:52:21 – 00:39:15:16
So I want to get round to it in my own time. Not when everyone is dragging me along to listen and to see it. But that isn't about music. That's how you as a person, isn't it? And I get it, I know that I get it as well. There's an element of of it becoming. If everyone's listened to the same album, it feels like a little bit cheap that you haven't discovered it yourself and you just going along with the ride.

00:39:15:18 – 00:39:33:15
Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there are some albums that are so good you can't that they don't allow you to do it like that. Libertines that the Libertines, the Fontaines DC album was number one for everybody. I if you listen to it. But there's a couple of I think I did.

00:39:33:15 – 00:39:59:16
Yeah. You sent it to me. Yeah. And all of us. That might be one of the best songs of the decade. I remember you sent it to me, and I listened to the first song and I was like, yeah, that's pretty good. The second song was a bit weird, and I was like, okay, that's I'm going to hate your business if it's moment that one night I listened to that one first and then it went on to another song and I was like, this is, this is all right.

00:39:59:16 – 00:40:07:10
I suppose it is in that indie kind of sphere. Then the next one was really weird.

00:40:07:12 – 00:40:27:10
Writing almost the last 30 years of music, of indie music. It's just. And then and then and then the next one. I was like, that doesn't even sound like them, that this sounds totally different. What had done is I played a single and then Spotify was recommend to me songs like them, so I wasn't even listening to them and I was like, but it's not.

00:40:27:14 – 00:40:55:05
It's funny you say that because I didn't realize that we used what you was getting at, because it makes sense when you listen to their album. It is eclectic. It will, it doesn't. You know, some albums have a style and it all knits together quite neatly, and it all sounds like it's from the same wheelhouse. The Libertines, the fuck, Fontaines DC album moves around the lot, and it sounds like a lot like in one song.

00:40:55:05 – 00:41:20:00
It'll sound like The Smiths. Then it might sound like a bit like Bloc Party, or then it sounds like Fontaines DC and it just moves around. And what's amazing about them is they've released the album, they've released five albums since 2019, and they all hail. Really? Yeah. This is the fifth album. Yeah. And they all sound different. You can tell it's them, but they move on.

00:41:20:02 – 00:41:41:11
They just they don't stand still. And that's what's interesting about them. And they love the live albums, no doubt that people don't rate, but it's they're moving forward. It's not Radiohead as I like it. You know they are we going to talk about our favorite bands. Yeah. Well yeah. This is where I'm, I'm no I'm literally steering the ship back to our favorite bands.

00:41:41:13 – 00:42:12:07
Like in your show you're most kind of like for me, my most formative music era was teens and obviously early 20s. And I could go on and I could speak about. So the the first single I ever bought was by a band called erasure. Yeah. And the song was always, and I don't know how I quite like that sort of I homo.

00:42:12:09 – 00:42:33:23
Yeah, I know, I know, I us. So it's not to say homo music. I mean like homo centric is like, is that an offensive time? I can't remember what I'm saying is it's aimed at the gay community. Like, yeah, it was kind of like gay pride, deep pride, music and and yeah, Shop Boys definitely. No, no, no, you were a nail on the head, mate.

00:42:34:00 – 00:42:48:15
I don't know, I don't know, but I yeah, I just liked it. That was the first first single. But if you if you but if you, if you listen to your dad's music it would have been formative years. Yes. All of my music comes from that. From listening to what my dad listen to. Yeah. Everyone's like, I think.

00:42:48:20 – 00:43:08:01
I don't think my dad would have been into that fight so. Well, not Pet Shop Boys. Oh, shit. Yeah. No you're right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay I reckon. Oh yeah. Yeah probably. Yeah for sure. Yeah I think before about that. Really. Well you know what would think to connect them like that until I've been talking about it. This is why I'm so obsessed.

00:43:08:01 – 00:43:29:01
With what. Obsessed with. But I really enjoyed Cassie's Dad album because it sounds like it's from the 80s, but it with modern hip hop. That's what's so fascinating about the album. It's the production. Do you know? Did you ever listen to it? No. It's that the guy that wears the mask. Okay. But not that. That not the dead guy.

00:43:29:01 – 00:43:49:01
That was the mask. The dead guy that wears a mask. Oh, no. No, and MF doom. Yeah, it is different. Different vibe, a different, different mask. This is English that he's he's from London. Is Cassie's that you know. Yeah. Yeah I day but he's the production of that album is what's special about it rather than his abilities as an MC.

00:43:49:01 – 00:44:08:08
Although he has a unique style, his production is sounds like growing up. When I grew up and I was watching films from the 80s, and he's clearly about my age. Yeah, because of his influences, the films from the 80s. And like, your dad listened to Pet Shop Boys and you like in erasure, probably because of that. It. Yeah.

00:44:08:10 – 00:44:39:15
Yeah, it feeds into, It feeds into what? What we were, what we were back then, and it's like a comfort. So when I put on Cassie's dead, I heard I. It made me feel like I was ten again watching RoboCop. Yeah, yeah. Mate, that's a so interesting. I never thought about it in that way. And with with erasure and that I think that, that was around 94.

00:44:39:17 – 00:45:09:22
So that was when I kind of first had that discovery of music, the way it made me feel, actually using my personal allowance, my newspaper around money and going to buy something for myself, music. And then obviously Oasis came on the scene. And in every secondary school it was just everyone was talking about Oasis. Everyone had polka jackets, everyone was growing their.

00:45:09:24 – 00:45:38:20
It was like I'd never seen anything catch fire so quickly and kind of be on mainstream TV and pop culture, all of that stuff. But I'm going to be honest with you, er, Oasis definitely, definitely, maybe was the first album I ever bought. I hadn't really listened to it. Just everyone at school was talking about it really. So I thought I should probably buy this because everyone else is doing it.

00:45:38:21 – 00:45:59:15
But Ricky, unless you live in listen to the radio, how else are you going to hear it other than buying the record? Yeah, until I listened to, I'd heard bits and pieces, but it was just everyone was. Everyone was like the buzz feverish on it. And I was like, well, I have to every able to buy it. It's about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:59:16 – 00:46:18:19
So that was me. That was my first album that I bought. And then after that it was fucking gay. Maybe it's a bit. So my dad bought it, but that put it on. And obviously what's the story. And we would be playing it. You had a CD player in the car as well. Obviously. Like I said, you always had to have the latest first CD Walkman had that as well.

00:46:18:21 – 00:46:43:17
Nice. I remember being like, I don't know, 14, 15 driving. We went on holiday to havia near Alicante. Yeah. Yeah. And drive from Alicante airport to Harvey was about an hour and a half. So I would just sit there with Nirvana's Nevermind on. I'm just looking out the window, my dad's fucking pocket CD player and the headphones just listened to nevermind.

00:46:43:19 – 00:47:14:00
Back to front. It's fucking. That was a great. That's, Yeah, that sounds very much. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. But we've had with Nirvana and that more heavy music. So when I was I'm going to like, I think it's safe to assume for, for both of us, mainly, you know, mainly me, but Radiohead, blur, pulp, charlatans, all that noise in these music, that's what I was brought up on.

00:47:14:00 – 00:47:39:01
And that's what I listen to. That's what I love. That's what I listen to. Now that that is totally me. But then there's a little bit of me that went a bit, went a little bit sideways in my maybe early 20s, 19, around the era, and my mates didn't really get it. Limp Bizkit yeah. Papa. Papa roach. Yeah.

00:47:39:03 – 00:47:47:08
Put that into pieces. I actually I last resort to the suffocation.

00:47:47:10 – 00:48:12:06
I was, I bought the album to Rick, link Linkin Park, but that's when I put my thoughts. Came on the scene crawling about some these moves. They will not. He, It was my emo era. That was. That was my, like, kind of. I don't know when I recall. Yeah, yeah. Linkin Park are probably my dad's top five bands.

00:48:12:06 – 00:48:33:15
He loves. Loves really always. Always. I had, Hybrid Theory. They bought. I had two albums. I never knew this. I know this is amazing to you about it. He said, I will tell you, he's, I never really like Linkin Park, to be honest. I like that. I got in, you know, I watched him on TV, but, I never saw.

00:48:33:15 – 00:48:55:23
I also remember I also remember buying, because of that era and that style. Lost profits. Probably shouldn't, admit that now that back then. Oh, no, I didn't realize I, I maybe not. Yeah, like a bad one. Like the worst. Yeah, yeah. Like king like up there. Top tier. You know, you can't. That is the worst of all.

00:48:55:23 – 00:49:20:17
The 90s. Yeah. I couldn't tell you a single Lost Profits fan. I wasn't into that music. Yeah. It was. It is sort of emo rock, though. We went I really, you see. Okay. That's that's that's, I'd never listen to that. Lost profits, My Chemical Romance bullet, but no, I can't remember. All the other ones were bullet for my Valentine or something or something like,

00:49:20:19 – 00:49:41:00
Yeah. Yeah. No, that was a guy that, like, nu metal, nu metal, nu metal. I don't really I don't know enough to probably sound like a fucking old man. I don't know enough about that. That. No, no, that's fine. I was by that point, I was into it. I was well into my hip hop. So. And then when I.

00:49:41:02 – 00:50:07:13
So I had that little, era there and then when I went to college is when I met people that were into music, that had long hair and band t shirts and chains and baggy jeans. Now, from where I'm from and the lads I was hanging around with, that was that was not us. And this is where I first kind of.

00:50:07:13 – 00:50:19:21
So what age, what I must have been early. Like I must have been 20, 20 years old. And that is when I discovered bands like The Smiths.

00:50:19:23 – 00:50:43:11
The Cure and even The Libertines. That is when I wasn't listening to those that type of music, the Strokes, even. And that's where I kind of had that. I was going in a different route, what my mates were, what would open that realization? It was still Oasis and Blur and it was still that kind of music.

00:50:43:11 – 00:51:08:06
But it was that discovery, that self-discovery of music. And when did you, Because I know that you love hip hop. Yeah. And would you say it's the main thing that you listen to? For a long time, I've kind of moved away into more to just towards bands now. When did you start with and how did you get into hip hop?

00:51:08:08 – 00:51:31:24
So I was it started with Eminem. I was, I was I remember when I first heard, hi, my name is Samia. Yeah. What you mean so. Well, I was, I was working in my first job, my warehouse. But you remember when you first heard that song and I heard it playing on the radio, and. And I was like, what other.

00:51:32:01 – 00:52:02:16
What was that he saying about Nine Inch Nails? His eyelids. Well, what was it? What's he saying, Ricky? Exactly the same. When, when I was sitting, I was, I was, I was doing voluntary work for, I was volunteering for a charity at the time called exposure. I mentioned a couple of times Eve media used to write articles and do bits and pieces for them, and I was working on an article and they had we was at the radio on radio one and do do do do do you know what that was?

00:52:02:16 – 00:52:26:07
That's it. Hi. My name is, my name is, my name is. And you're like, what is this? This is weird. And then he starts rapping and talking. You know, it was mad shit that he talks about. Yeah. And you're like, that is fucking mad. You know, I did the minute I left the office on my way, I went straight to price and I bought the same CD, LP.

00:52:26:07 – 00:52:47:20
No, I read a same diary the same day. That's cool. Well, because I was like, why is that? I mean, I know what hip hop is. I know what rap is, and it's not something that's ever interested me, really. I never listen to rap music or hip hop. And then that came on and I was like, I have to hear what it is.

00:52:47:22 – 00:53:07:19
So I went and bought the album and I put it into my Sony Discman, and it was one of the ones where it's hold it up, right? Otherwise it's shit. I remember that's fucking yeah, it's about £50 from Argos and you could just walk around of it. It was a commitment to be to music, but then we had to hold it.

00:53:07:19 – 00:53:43:14
So it was vertical sort of CD didn't skip, no tongue. And listening to the the same shade. Yup. And when I got to my front door, it hadn't finished. So I carried on walking and I kind of wait till the album finished. And to say my mind was blown. It would be an understatement. It changed everything. And now people listen to the people that are listening to this who didn't or have never listened to Eminem or would look at him now and what he is now and think, that shit's corny.

00:53:43:16 – 00:54:04:01
It wasn't then. It was. The first two albums were not corny at all. They were great, they were aggressive, and they were violent, and they were saying things that no one said at the time. Very, you know, it would be him. I don't I don't know enough about that era of hip hop to be completely sure what I'm saying, but I know Eminem and what I like went on to.

00:54:04:01 – 00:54:26:05
He's like DMX, I went to Eminem, went to Dres, DMX, that was The Root. But DMX and Eminem were rapping about mental stuff. Yeah. It was just so refreshing to me because nothing, I hadn't heard anything like it and it just couldn't stop listening the album, I would, I would listen, I would rap it in my sleep.

00:54:26:05 – 00:54:48:22
I would dream about this music or dream about Eminem's first album, and I couldn't get his rapping out of my head. So adapted, feverish dreams of him in my brain. I was so invested in that. For those folks, how magic is that? They like that. You hear like a single on the radio. Yeah, just these tones as well.

00:54:48:22 – 00:55:08:16
But I walked in on the wind and it comes down to your ears and then you're just fucking. What is that? Dumbstruck. What is that? I need that, where do I get it? And then you've gone to a store to buy it and then listen to All the Way home. And you, even though you've made it to your house, hasn't.

00:55:08:21 – 00:55:31:09
You gotta keep going. And most important thing is, I had the listen this album and you mentioned I'm like, well, and why am I here then? I'm 17, maybe 17 years old and he's rapping about fuckin. He's rapping about drugs and mushroom parties, is rapping about killing his wife and taking her to the sea with his kid in tow.

00:55:31:11 – 00:55:52:20
That's men or stuff. Yeah, that that is. Yeah, that is fuckin madness. Madness. This is a commercial mainstream album released by Doctor Dres label, and it's getting radio airplay. And the stuff on this album is crazy. It wouldn't happen now. It probably been canceled. It would probably be canceled in this modern era, like in, if he's if he just came out, it wouldn't be allowed.

00:55:52:22 – 00:56:13:12
I don't want to sound like a, like a again. Like a, like an ode that what you know what I am. But it feels like it's a shame that looking back of our chat and the memories and like you've just said that going to a record store and buying this MCD and then playing it like you wouldn't really get that anymore.

00:56:13:12 – 00:56:34:12
I know lots of bands will release 5 or 6 singles and then eight months down the line, release the album. So, you know, singles is a different mechanic now to sharing music? Yeah. Unless you're massive and you can just drop an album without even thinking about it, but it has changed massively. But back in back when we were younger, before Spotify was even a thing.

00:56:34:14 – 00:56:54:24
And I'm glad it's a thing because, yeah, incredible piece of incredible Spotify. It's not I'm, I'm, I'm happy to pay the money each month. Yes I am. Yeah, yeah. But but but then it was like you had to make an investment and a commitment in to someone's work. Yeah. And it didn't always work out like I it.

00:56:54:24 – 00:57:14:11
Would you buy it and you go, I don't like this album. And let's just I'll just pay for expensive music benefits. Who in quid for that or that. Like it. Which is why word of mouth was so important and and wanting to fit in was so important because you gave albums time. Now, if you have lives and you just don't just click to the next thing.

00:57:14:13 – 00:57:38:19
Whereas yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is why I love the fact that my dad had this library of CDs, because I just had all of these tastes that tap into rather than me. I used to, I used to love opening my seat, like when I'd buy the CD, opening the cover, and then sliding the little book out and you'd see all the artwork, and, he produced it and where they recorded it and the different, like, stories that would be behind it.

00:57:38:19 – 00:57:57:02
And you'd be, oh, this is fucking quality, man. Oh, they recorded him. Why? He was, man, that's quality. Like all this other weird stuff that be going on. And you just paint this picture in your mind of this band that you're listening to and stuff. Did you feel like it was more of,

00:57:57:04 – 00:58:24:08
I don't know what. Like, you belong to something more like if you had the album, you read the the the record notes in the book and you go the now it just kind of you flit in and out of fads and and songs and specific bands. But back then, because you had an album, it was physical and, you know, you had to listen to it start to finish as the, as the artist intended.

00:58:24:10 – 00:58:43:11
It just felt like you, you had to work more and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you belonged to that band more so than now. Exactly. Exactly that. And, there was a purpose to the that art, you know what I mean? And maybe it's because I was so invested in that you need to listen to it from start to finish in this way.

00:58:43:11 – 00:59:00:03
And you need to know this from the last album of how it then got to this album and how the stories kind of, reach from that album to this album, or there a break up in that, you know, there was a lot of stuff that you needed to, to know, to really feel and to be involved with it.

00:59:00:09 – 00:59:04:02
But then also, I kind of.

00:59:04:04 – 00:59:29:24
I don't know whether I got is there like a music scene where people are dressing in a certain way because of different bands or a genre of music? Like I always knew when I went out and I had my parka jacket on, the little mod patch, I had this, that and the other, and then I'd see someone walk across the road and they had a Fred Perry and brogues on, and I'd kind of give that no and actually give them an actual nod.

00:59:29:24 – 00:59:48:07
But I knew it was like, that's that's one of my lot. That's my kind of people. And even if you were a goth, if you were fucking were a punk, if you were emo, I don't really see any of that stuff anymore. Or maybe because, because I'm old and I would look out for it. Yeah, I didn't, I mean, yeah, exactly.

00:59:48:07 – 01:00:09:00
I think is of your time and they, there will be subcultures musically that exist, but it doesn't belong to us. It belongs to this generation and the the gatekeeper, don't you? From the old folks. My dad was never interested in what, what? You know, borderline when, you know, when I was my 20s. It's just like my dad. My dad did all that as well.

01:00:09:00 – 01:00:27:20
He saw the Beatles. He saw the stones play. There's a place Called the Rain. The rainbow, I think in, Finsbury Park. He's the love. Small faces. Him and his mate Bill would travel and watch Small Faces all over UK. Literally. He probably seen them. Seen him in at 20 gigs of Small, Small Faces. Yeah.

01:00:27:20 – 01:00:53:05
He has a I've. I've tried to him about that. Yeah. That's cool. Before we jump onto the next bit I have to have your bands that you feel are a guilty pleasure or type of music. And why do you have a little thing? I will talk about mine. And I used to love and my mates were like this as well.

01:00:53:07 – 01:01:16:01
I still have like house music, dance music. So do you ever remember Ministry of Sound? The animals? Yeah, you just have them. I just used to buy them. Listen to them mix by Pete Tong and Boy George or something like that. And I fucking. I'd love it. Trance music, love it back then and that we're going to see Pete Tong.

01:01:16:03 – 01:01:34:16
Bring a mate. That would be quality. That would be. Where is it? I can't say, and there's a reason why I can't say. I'll tell you after. Okay. Well, okay. Yeah it hasn't. It's not. Nothing's confirmed with it yet. But I know somebody who knows somebody. Right. Yeah I, I definitely do that if it comes off. What they're planning is, is quality.

01:01:34:16 – 01:01:58:20
So, Yeah. All right. If you're in any way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll know you as well. He knows who you are. Yes. So what would you say? So. Yeah. So yeah, that was my guilty pleasure. And I would have so like, you know, when you have played this and you're playing your music and then all of a sudden fucking a remix would come out from some house DJ or whatever, and then all eyes just kind of go to you and make you see your music.

01:01:58:20 – 01:02:17:10
And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I love it, I love it. I don't go searching for it now. But back then that was my kind of guilty pleasure of what I would listen to. And if any of those old house tunes, trance tunes come on, they still on my playlist. Absolutely love them, but none of my mates listen to any of that stuff.

01:02:17:10 – 01:02:45:18
None. Yeah, trance is probably the worst music I, I couldn't like trance like happy hardcore and all that stuff. No, not quite happy. Ha! There was a stage when I was at school where we would go to the market and Milton Keynes, and we'd use our money to spend to buy tapes of happy hardcore, and it'd be like a VHS case, and you opened it up and, you know, free tapes on the left side and free tapes on the right side.

01:02:45:20 – 01:02:55:18
And it's like three hours of happy hardcore music fucking. I hated it, but everyone else is buying it. So I brought it to.

01:02:55:20 – 01:03:16:24
Yeah. My missus is heavily she likes house music, so it's sort of chilled house music. And so I've kind of absorbed some of that and listened to a lot more. And I used to, I don't have any, camouflage and, Yeah, but we did. You know that song that you did with Jake Bugg?

01:03:17:05 – 01:03:34:18
They did? No. You did. You do know it. You will have heard. It's so good. Anyway, so I kind of I appreciate that a lot more than I did. I was never really into house music, but since meeting my Mrs.. And, you know, the things, like most people with house music and clubbing, it was like drug culture, right?

01:03:34:18 – 01:03:55:21
It was ecstasy. Yeah, it was scary. And. And you got out dancing. But but my time when I was heavily into rap, it was. It was us at the borderline. Listen to indie music rather. Yeah. So, I never really got into that. But in terms of guilty pleasures, yeah, I've got some more obvious ones and Ministry of Sound, for fuck's sake.

01:03:56:01 – 01:04:18:24
Because that must be. There must be more than that. You got to be a little bit more honest. I've got I'm trying to think I got on. I've got Bon Jovi. I fucking hate Bon Jovi. My fucking, Absolutely, I hate him, I hate meatloaf, and I hate Bruce Springsteen. All of them. I don't like pretending.

01:04:19:02 – 01:04:38:07
I never understood Bruce Springsteen as well. I don't, I don't get it is taught to me so ordinary. So it's the same reason, like my missus loves Sam Fender. Sam Fender sounds like Bruce Springsteen's Me. It's just ordinary, but people do love them. Bon Jovi however, I understand. I understand why you hate them and understand why no one likes them.

01:04:38:10 – 01:05:00:22
I mean, loads of people like them, but no one would admit to it. Yeah, but again, it's just when I was a kid, I bought the Bon Jovi album. What was it called? It just reminds me of, like, being drunk in a Yates's and everyone screaming, livin on a prayer. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that was on the album that I'm trying to find now.

01:05:00:24 – 01:05:25:16
No, I get it. It's shit. It's terrible. You can't tell me. Listening to Dry County, the you're not and you're on your own in the car, that you're not saying the top of your lungs right now. Here you are. But it's. And, keep the faith. Keep the faith, keep the faith. No, no, I am. That's surprised me.

01:05:25:21 – 01:05:40:19
Yeah, well, look, it is a guilty pleasure, I admit it. I don't understand it. I don't I wouldn't tell this if I was trying to impress somebody. I wouldn't tell them. I actually, every now and then stick on Bon Jovi when I'm driving. Have you heard of a band called Bon Jovi? Bloody good. I say Pat Benatar.

01:05:40:19 – 01:06:07:07
I don't know if that's if Pat Benatar is is considered a guilty pleasure is a pop in the 80s, I you would have maybe heard that word once or twice in my life, but no idea of. And it's kind of like mainstream pop from the 80s. It's not like Fleetwood Mac, where it's actually quite good. Pat Benatar was like, yeah, I don't know.

01:06:07:08 – 01:06:30:02
Yeah. I'm not, I'm pretty, I'm pretty. What do you what would you say? I kind of like if something is cheesy, I tend to not like, you know, you mentioned Spotify Wrapped. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah. I sometimes want to listen to old school Eminem, but I don't want Eminem to appear on my Spotify rap, so I just don't listen.

01:06:30:04 – 01:06:55:09
Are you kidding me? No, that's. No, that's sad. That is Eminem. It's just like his music. It's so shit now and it's a I disagree. I think it's brilliant. I still think he's a he's the best. I'm listening since modern day Eminem is the thing and I know that's pathetic Rick I know that's pathetic, but I'm ready to admit it.

01:06:55:11 – 01:07:17:24
I won't listen to him. And then, the third, the third or might the third single, my most listened to single on my Spotify, it was it was a song called Dare from the Transformers soundtrack. So I thought, okay, yeah. I thought, you know what? I was just I was as surprised as other people listening. That's like Transformers on this.

01:07:17:24 – 01:07:44:07
What about. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. That's that's. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah. Can I just play it because people won't know what. Yeah. Go on then.

01:07:44:09 – 01:07:51:14
Sometimes when you watch at home and chatter. So it just.

01:07:51:16 – 01:08:28:16
You wonder how you keep going away. Think of all the things that really matter in the changes you do, the fire in your heart is going. You can fly if you try to leave. In the past, behind in the past, behind me. I write that review I yeah, seriously, I'm listening to that. And that's taking me back to being eight, nine years old watching Transformers the movie.

01:08:28:18 – 01:08:50:14
Listen to that. I just that's just one of the bangers on there make. There's fucking loader bangers on there low. So so good, so good. Before we jump into argon. So I'll just sound like what, what do you. Cause you mentioned on the random noise you about Spotify wrapped. Yeah. I was just going to say I think it's a bit over.

01:08:50:14 – 01:09:18:09
Right. Well, for me, it's over right there every year, I think. I think, yeah, for me it's a bit over. Right? It's because it's always going to be the same. At first it was like, oh, this is interesting that I've listened to this bands that many times or that podcast that many times, and but the more I kind of think about, it's always like literally the last three years have been the same five bands, but in a different order really.

01:09:18:15 – 01:09:35:22
And the podcast that I do sometimes, like, I fall in love with a podcast and I will fucking rent it for three months, and then I'm like, you know what? This is actually not that great. And I I've made a mistake and I'll burn it off. And then Spotify Rap comes out. Oh, your favorite podcast is fuck sake.

01:09:35:22 – 01:09:57:15
No, it, I fucking like, it's making me look like a dickhead. Prov so that's it. It does make you like a ticket. And it runs from like February to November as well as like three months where they're not tracking what you're listening to with. Yeah, yeah, that is weird. That's why fucking it probably fucked me up. Yeah.

01:09:57:17 – 01:10:17:15
Started like I was listening. I probably is in there in terms of how much I've listened to this year, but unknown T is like a drill rapper from Palmerton in London. I've heard you mention it, but I have no idea. Album. So good. Such a good album. Like. And it's my second best, second most played album this year.

01:10:17:17 – 01:10:41:05
Rise Above Hate. It's good. But I listen to it in like three months and I kind of dip into it every now and then since. But it's only so long you can listen to someone talking about and man up. Before we move on. But then like six months later, he comes out and he's still there, which I'm fine with, but,

01:10:41:07 – 01:10:56:08
Yeah, it's just what it is. So it was. It used to be really good. You just get a lot more information and a lot more. But is they? Since maybe it's because it's just so big now that they just pulled it down, but it's less. Yeah. It's not that. Yeah, but what it does is it. Gamify your. You're listening.

01:10:56:09 – 01:11:20:21
That's what it is. Why they do it is and everyone's followed them everywhere. Exactly. And a lot of other people are doing it now. Like even Strava will come out and say how many, how many walks you did? How many this you did. I know that which is good, which is nice. Yeah. And I yeah, exactly.

01:11:20:23 – 01:11:41:20
Sorry. Opening doors, asking for lifts and stuff, but I'm not going around, Just looking. What's happening? Very professional, is it? So, yeah, it's, it's a it's a good thing with strawberry in it because it makes you make it game it, like I said, it gamify your exercise. But with this Spotify, it's just to keep you on platform so you don't swap to Apple Music because you'll lose rats and you'll lose all your data and stuff.

01:11:41:20 – 01:12:05:06
It just keeps you. That's it. I've seen a lot of the Apple Boys kicking off because they because they, they don't get it right. Yeah. Maybe it's been years that surely they would have fucking cotton done by now. Come on. It's such a massive organization. It's just not worth their time. So yeah, maybe, all the Apple Music dorks like, are you, like, otherwise available guys?

01:12:05:06 – 01:12:25:05
Nothing. You can use Apple Music instead. You want Spotify so great. Yeah. It's just. And this is why we'll never lose. Then you could you could come and sponsor us. It's know. But this is why it will never lose me. It will never lose. It's like in the same way that it will never not be the most. The number one it's ingrained in is a habitual fair.

01:12:25:05 – 01:12:45:05
People. Yeah. Getting people to change their habits is almost impossible. Yeah, it's very hard. So what, you mean so I'm not going to give up like Elon Musk has done his best to fuck that platform. But people still uses that is that I mean that is a good point. He has fucked that platform completely and everyone still goes over there.

01:12:45:07 – 01:13:18:23
Right? We're going to be jumping into dilemmas and something only you know. The dilemma is called forbidden love. And there's something only you know is called the list. The topic for next week is do gooders or what they're also known, or they call themselves as auditors. So these people that film police stations to get a reaction, they want the police officers to come out saying, those guys and fucking assholes, absolute assholes.

01:13:19:03 – 01:13:41:22
And then so there's a there's a YouTube channel called Auditing Britain. Yes. In it. Why are they doing that? This is what we're going to go into. And then there's a, there's another one that fly drones over security type compounds or private property. Annoying. So that police come out. And then there's have you seen that cyclist as well.

01:13:41:22 – 01:14:01:02
So cycling my K yeah yeah yeah. And then he's got a CCTV right. And not so easy. He's got he's a GoPro in his head. So what you need be using social media vigilantes. Is that what we Zeiss. Yeah that's exactly what it is. Yeah yeah yeah. Right. That's good. I fucking hate that cycling Mickey guy. And I don't agree.

01:14:01:02 – 01:14:25:09
The people should be on their phones when they're driving. But anyway. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll get into it. Should be. So if, if there's any people out there where who you follow or that you've seen that are these kind of, social vigilantes that these do gooders orders please send in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will include your stories.

01:14:25:11 – 01:14:59:11
And yeah, we're going to be moving over to dilemmas right now. Oh, just just tired. And you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad cause pain will be aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Ricky and Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest, well, friend, you deserve it. Then. Like you're safe here to get nice warm between breaking and.

01:14:59:13 – 01:15:02:03

01:15:02:05 – 01:15:28:15
Forbidden love. I'm a guy who works for a large firm. I'm an associate who works under a few seniors, all of whom are married women. Two months ago, one of my seniors texted me at 11 p.m. to ask if she could come over. I was very hesitant, but obliged in the end, and an affair started at my apartment that night.

01:15:28:17 – 01:15:56:05
Since then we have been doing this every week, sometimes multiple times throughout the week, even on holidays. It's pathetic. My problem is I'm falling in love with this girl, and I realize how horrible of a person I am for being that person. There is a guy out there having his life ruined because I couldn't say no. She has rules that I can never text or call her.

01:15:56:07 – 01:16:27:10
I know the power dynamic dynamic is fucked and I know I'm just a side piece. I just needed to get this off my chest. It's ruining my life. And being from a very religious family is absolutely no one I can talk to about this without being shamed, fired, or even possibly killed by her husband. No idea where to go from here, but I'm in love with someone I could never truly have, and they have also turned me into a person I'd never wanted to be.

01:16:27:12 – 01:16:58:00
What should I do? That's. That is so sad. Yeah. It's, I think, you know, I think he knows. Well, he needs to. The channel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I knew that. I was second guessing. It just gets to check out more, if possible. Yeah. You said multiple times during the week, I think up the ante every day.

01:16:58:02 – 01:17:24:19
Every day. My. Unfortunately, this there's no, I, I don't know, man. I've never been in a situation, but it feels like there's no good outcome for you here. One that you're going to be completely happy with. You already feel guilty because you're treading on another man's shoes by fucking his wife. And which is good that you feel that way because you shouldn't fuck other people's wives.

01:17:24:21 – 01:17:48:07
It's pretty, you know, generally not a good thing today. But a lot of people kind of make they, a lot of people say, well, it's up to her now. I'm not. I don't know the guy. It's up to her. She wants to do okay to do with me, but I. I'd like to think that, I mean, it would never happen to me now because obviously I'm happily married.

01:17:48:07 – 01:18:08:01
And, you know, I don't even think about anything like that now. But I'd like to think that when I was single, that if I knew the person I was going to be with, even if it was just a one night stand, didn't have a boyfriend. But I never asked either. During that time, I just went about assuming that they didn't.

01:18:08:01 – 01:18:28:10
She? Yeah, because I guess I didn't want to know the answer, but if I did, then I probably wouldn't do that. And, you know, it's good that you feel guilty. I think it's sort of like when you saying like back then as well. Number one, you'd assume. Number two, you just don't feel and you just like. Yes.

01:18:28:15 – 01:18:49:19
To just get to the last question, this is not the kind of thing like, oh, before we do this, you have a boyfriend. You can say that you can't bring up. All right. Nice. I think it needs to cut it off, man. You need you need to if you do. Yeah. And like the key takeaway here, when you said, she's turned into a man I don't want to be.

01:18:49:19 – 01:19:08:03
That's that's the key take home here. Because you can change that. You can't change what she's doing to her husband, and you can't change, but you can limit the damage that this is going to do. And one thing you can't limit is the fact how bad it's going to feel that you don't get to see her because you love her.

01:19:08:05 – 01:19:32:01
Yeah. It's hard. It's a hard situation. But, you know, this is why you have to listen to your brain at the beginning when it said alarm bells do not do this. Do not do this. Yeah, this is hard times because sex feels good. It does. Especially naughty sex as well that you shouldn't be doing. But yeah, I think not.

01:19:32:04 – 01:19:54:12
The first thing is that you. That kind of made me the alarm bells ringing. If the power dynamic of you're not allowed to ring her, you're not allowed to text her, you're not allowed to, you know, get in contact with, so it you know, you are you are a side piece, as you've said. And if you're falling for her, it's you are a side piece, no matter how much you think about.

01:19:54:12 – 01:20:18:00
And if you do, if you kind of do broach that subject to say, oh, like, come and be with me, then you would knowingly get into a relationship, often a bad start because you she's coming from someone that she's cheated on you, you know, I mean, it could happen to you. Yeah. So it's never a great place to start from, but yeah.

01:20:18:02 – 01:20:41:05
Then the last bit of you saying that you've become a person that even you never wanted to be, which is the main thing, I think you have to cut it off, mate. It's going to be painful and it's going to I don't know how it's going to play out, but for for your sake and probably for hers as well, you're just going to have to in there.

01:20:41:07 – 01:21:14:17
That would be my advice anyway. Same. Best of luck with that. Get get send us an email even after. Yeah celebrate, celebrate. You have set up your place with prostitutes. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure. Yeah. Send us an email. How that when you decide today, give us an update, we're going to jump into something. Only you know why something, you know.

01:21:14:19 – 01:21:38:09
The list made this email address just to send this in. Love. The pod keeps me sane on a Monday. You don't have to do it. I would never cross you up. Would never change your name. Yeah, exactly. Never do that. No, Rick. Yeah, I would know. But I know people that I've sent stuff into. I know I've never even spoke to them about, like, I chat to them and I've never just said, oh, I saw that email you sent.

01:21:38:11 – 01:22:01:21
Not nothing. None of that. But just ignore it. Yeah. Ignore it. I'll keep it short. That would be interested to know your thoughts on my naughty list. What the fuck am I on about? Wow. I have a list of porn star names saved on my phone. Next to each name is a person in my real life that they look like or remind me of.

01:22:01:23 – 01:22:34:10
I can't lie, it's really fucking extensive at this point. No one is safe. If I find you fair, I'll find someone that looks like you or captures your energy. It ranges from sexy senior managers at work to exes. Friends of my girlfriend, my friends, girlfriends, neighbors, and even a teacher at my school. Tell you what though, if this list ever got leaked, I'd be really ashamed and I'd have to grow a beard and go work offshore.

01:22:34:12 – 01:22:55:20
But despite this, I'm well proud of my list. Luckily for me, it's something only I know. Who is it is. I'm not one out. If I if he has an interaction, he'll then go home and just not one answer that pulls off. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He'll align a porn star with that person and then just, smash one out, I think.

01:22:55:23 – 01:23:08:11
I mean, if that list ever got out, like if your Macy's was ever looking for your phone and tried to talk about that one. Yeah, yeah.

01:23:08:13 – 01:23:41:13
Especially if it's her mates and your mates, your mates, wives or whatever. That's fucking mad. But, like, I've, you know, in, I think this in friends where they have a cheat list, Ross has a laminated list and he has five people that he's allowed to sleep with if he ever. Five celebrities if we ever bumped into. Yeah, I like I often I mean I don't have that list, but there's a list in my mind that I'm like, yeah, I, I, cheat on my missus for that.

01:23:41:13 – 01:24:01:20
So, you know, egg. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She she would know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's on this list? I can't, you know. Well, I mean, one of them is you've got to, I think with this list, it's got to be someone that's, let's say, not attainable, but, like, not Hollywood. You can't go Hollywood. Yeah. You know, it's like I'll be someone that is.

01:24:01:21 – 01:24:21:22
It's not like I can make it Italian, is it? Yeah. No, it's, First one. Sky sports presenter Hayley McQueen. I love that Hayley McQueen. No, I didn't, I didn't, Alex did. Oh, I thought it was this. That would have been trouble if I. If I met her. Because I would have had to have she, she would have had to cheat on her partner as well.

01:24:22:00 – 01:24:41:15
We both have to leave our families. Look at a picture of what is it about that does it for you? I don't know. Is it the big old bangers? Yeah. I didn't want to say it, but there are some. What's right. There are some absolute wack dogs. But, Didn't you didn't you tweet? Once was.

01:24:41:16 – 01:25:06:01
Yeah, I did, and then she replied and told you. She said she told you. Oh no, no, no, she blocked me. She blocked me. What did by the bangers. This is going back on Twitter. What about the bad news? This is ten years ago. This is I mean, it's over ten years ago. And this is when the, you know, the fighting cock was very,

01:25:06:03 – 01:25:32:02
Yeah, we were just. Yeah, very young. Social media was very new and that I did tweet, I think she, she mentioned something about the dress and I mentioned something about the bangers. And obviously looking back is fucking horrendous thing to have said. And she broke me. But then because I mentioned it on the podcast, loads of people started adding her and saying, please unblock my friend Ricky and they were not ready.

01:25:32:04 – 01:25:51:04
So then she unblocked me and just put play nicely and that's and she had blocked me. So we're friends now. Say, you know, I'm glad you brought that up. I've ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No no. Hahahahahahaha!

01:25:51:06 – 01:26:17:15
That's amazing. Fuck. You know, next week we're going to be talking about auditors, do gooders, whatever you want to call them. The people that try and be social vigilantes are. They wear GoPros and they try and film plays to catch them out because they know the law better. You got anything you want to share or know any of them or an account to follow?

01:26:17:17 – 01:26:35:21
Send in to lad's anon pod at gmail.com and flag. And I wish you a very Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas everybody.

01:26:35:23 – 01:26:59:13
Adam night hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes. Highs quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:00:00:19 – 00:00:22:23
How many spies have you had in your life? Right? I would say I've lost count. Absolutely. You know, I've said this before, but stai kind of going on your spies in your eyes. Like in America, they get pinkeye. I've never seen anyone with pinkeye in the UK ever. No, I know what pinkeye is, but it's only from the movies.

00:00:23:02 – 00:00:39:09
You only know it from the movies that no one ever got it here. Is it like when people fart on your pillow or something like that? I've heard it's to do with that. Yeah, like poop particles in your eye or something. Oh, I don't know what it is because no one in the UK gets it. I thought it's a made up thing, but only people in the US.

00:00:39:11 – 00:01:09:14
It's like rabies in Europe. We don't have it in the UK. No we don't. Well, there was there was a mass scare like growing up that if a dog bites you in the 80s, I hate rabies. Terrified of rabies in the 80s. Yeah, exactly. But I think yeah, I think here of people having rabies. I, I got bit on the ass by a dog in Spain, and when I was about 8 or 9, my God, that must have been, I thought, well, I was convinced I had rabies.

00:01:09:14 – 00:01:28:20
Obviously, you go to Spain, you get bit by the. You got rabies. Oh, I'm the rest. Do you know the last part of rabies before you die? You get something called water phobia where you can't swallow, can't drink, you can't. It's got. There's a name for it. I can't remember what it was. Oh, my God, that sounds horrendous.

00:01:28:21 – 00:01:52:12
This is me being educated by Tick tock again. Like, to be fair. But, yeah, there's, like, this thing where you try and you can't swallow water. They obviously die of thirst or something like that. ID like that saying that. That's just reminded me of another fear unlocked for myself. Because obviously you say I'm a STI guy and I do have regular stars.

00:01:52:12 – 00:02:13:22
I've got one now. I had my eye. My right eye is bloodshot, too. Fuck. And it was, oh, when I woke up, it was just crushed it up. Couldn't see happen directly because I keep getting coming. But yeah. Yeah that that there's that and it's my own company as well, which is even more embarrassing. I always you right.

00:02:13:22 – 00:02:44:16
I know it's so weird. Right. Swap them a bit. Yeah. It's nice. Get my dick points that way. That's that's. Yeah. Naturally it goes in that, but I have this fear, and we've spoken about this before, and I have a mental fear of dying and or just maybe just getting something where there's no way out. And sometimes when I eat food or have a drink and I just the slightest bit choke or like, cough, I think it's that my throat muscles giving up on me.

00:02:44:17 – 00:03:03:10
Yeah. If I got motor neuron disease, that's that's the first thing that comes into my head that you've got a leg, you've gotta let go. I know, I know, I can't, I but there's nothing you can do about any of this stuff. Now I know, I know the same thing about being on airplane. There's nothing I can do by exploiting this guy.

00:03:03:10 – 00:03:20:16
But I made the choice to get on the airplane. In this instance, it's not very little thing you can do. But you've given up smoking. You've given you barely drink at once a once a weekend, something like that. Yeah. If you get in your moto, then, then there's nothing. It's not on you. It's just happened. No. If.

00:03:20:16 – 00:03:43:14
Yeah, if you are getting it's. Well, I don't want that. That's the worst. That that one is, is the top tier is. Yeah. You ever seen. Yeah. What. Moto. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. My body is 100%, My it's terrible. I feel so bad for people to have that. Yeah. Like. And the other one, the locked in syndrome.

00:03:43:14 – 00:04:13:04
That's a scary one. See that? Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. It's. No no, no, it's, high profile as it doesn't get the M&A. Does not does not get the column inches. No no it doesn't. But mate that would be that be nice if you seen The Bell and the butterfly that film. No, I actually yeah. Diving Bell in the butterfly is about you'll read in the book of a man who gets locked in syndrome, and they made a film out of that.

00:04:13:07 – 00:04:32:00
And it's sort of an autobiography, and it's about a nurse who works with a guy with locked in syndrome, who he had a massive stroke and, and he was left and he was left, left locked in. And nobody could do was blink. And this woman, his assistant, wrote a book based on him blinking the letters out of the book.

00:04:32:00 – 00:05:00:18
And that's the that's the film you're watching. Oh, fuck. Right. Yeah. It's a lot to take on, to be honest. It's not like, she's not like some of the afternoon watch. No, not like, grab a pinch mushrooms and have a little, you know, from watch. Absolutely. No, no, I can do that. Fuck. You know, by saying that, what you just said earlier about, you said something about drinking earlier.

00:05:00:20 – 00:05:25:11
Right now, you barely drink, and we can. I have, a bit of a predicament I just thought about. I thought, you know what we're about to record? I'm going to speak to flap about this. What is it? So, as you know, I've been doing dry January. Yay me. Like I've done it. A 10th of a, nine for Feb, so I'm trying to drink if you're drunk in the event.

00:05:25:13 – 00:05:47:04
No, no no, no. So you got to be on. Really? Yeah. Beyonce. Beyonce. So you must be a day 38 nine. I'm like that fucking I don't know, I don't really care. I feel like if I when you do dry January and slow like me. Yeah. Yeah I've got a mate on Mondays is Charlotte I really. Yeah a day off.

00:05:47:04 – 00:06:07:22
They just done dry January I know that that they've, they've given they've proclaimed that they've given up alcohol. But I don't have a problem with alcohol. But they can take or leave alcohol. But they've said, I'm sober. Right. Okay. Right. So that's so basically, like, me too, as you struggle with alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. That's no, you know, like stolen.

00:06:07:23 – 00:06:32:14
You know what they say in America, stolen valor when you, when you basically dress up in military uniforms, get discount on like, donuts and stuff. And do people do that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like so. But it's like it's terrible. Like people obviously in armed forces look, have a very dim view on these people because they've actually, you know, they've risked their lives naturally, haven't they?

00:06:32:14 – 00:07:00:14
Right. They've gone to war. They're like, that's a big, big courage. Yeah. Do it. Not raising your mates and stuff like that. And we've all got like family members, if not if granddad served or great granddad served in the Second World War. So we it's touched all of our lives. But for someone to just go, you know, I want to get discount when I go into a store and someone to dress up with the badges in that, or they just want accolades for something they haven't done yet that's stolen.

00:07:00:14 – 00:07:21:19
Valerie. It's not, it's not. It's looked on. It's not looked on. Well, right. If you get found out, it's not good for you. I'm a bit like that. Who say people? I'm like, you know, it's odd for me to do George Henry. I find it very difficult. Therefore, I don't know people celebrating it when they don't really think about alcohol much.

00:07:21:21 – 00:07:42:00
So stolen valor. I do feel a bit like that at the moment. Like because that's I'm that put that put that perfectly puts it because I'm not a big drinker. Like when I'm at home, I won't have a beer to chill out or glass. And right, I may do on a Friday night, but I can take it or leave it.

00:07:42:00 – 00:08:00:24
Really. And the only time I do drink is when I got my mates, which is getting less and less and less, and it's binge drinking. So I think Dry January, it's been pretty easy. I've been to the football a couple of times. I had some nonalcoholic beers at the foot, which is not drink the football. Yeah. No beers.

00:08:00:24 – 00:08:24:18
Yeah. So it's fine. Here comes the, it comes the, the quandary. Okay. The kicker now, I don't like to speak. We don't like to speak about football on here. Fucking eight football. Yeah. That one. I don't ever want to think about it ever again. I hate football so much, but I am going to an away game today.

00:08:24:18 – 00:08:59:01
And the culture of going to an away day is when you get a train or take a journey to the game. Drink alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm getting a train to said football ground with my old man and a mutual friend of ours party. And I normally would be like, get a four pack on the train sitting, have them get to the ground or get to the pub, have a bit more beer.

00:08:59:03 – 00:09:17:10
I don't I don't really whatever you do have a bit. I have a little go. I don't want a drink. But you get yourself a beer on that train. You drink. All right. What else? Can you open you down and you don't stop until it's coming out of your nose. I don't want you being sick when you get home, I think.

00:09:17:10 – 00:09:31:20
Great. God, no. I mean, look, if you don't want to drink, don't fucking drink. What do you. It's not like you're with the rowdy. A bunch of people at 40, is it? Body that are not going to make you drink it? I don't even drink so lightly. You don't have to. Do. Don't want to, but is watch it.

00:09:31:20 – 00:09:55:07
Do you need it? Given the fact you're about to watch bars get slapped for nil? Yeah, there is that, there is that. But it opened that white. So I thought about what you just said then and with body and with that low key. Right. Then it opens it up to the next thing of socializing with my mates at the pub or whatever it might be.

00:09:55:09 – 00:10:16:13
And I think I can get away with the nonalcoholic beers and sit there and socialize. Are you drinking nonalcoholic beers because you don't want to make fun of, or you just as something to do? Because I went away to see my little brother see his new baby, which is lovely. I spent the last couple of days doing that, and we were in the pub for about 4 or 5 hours on, just didn't turn it off.

00:10:16:14 – 00:10:36:07
It's freezing cold, so we need some of the pubs. The, I got to say, the pubs in Saint David's, which is a little silly little list. The smallest city in the UK. Oh, fuck. Really? Yeah. Tiny is. I mean, it's a bit of a bit outrageous to call it a city, but technically it is. You need to have certain things like a cathedral, and it's got one of them.

00:10:36:09 – 00:10:51:11
It needs to have a dining. You need to have a hospital. Oh, I don't know what it needs to have, but it has one of the things to make it a city anyway, the pubs there would have some of the best collection of pubs if you if you like, offered beer and you like to go to Salt Coast and this is like the Busch Peninsula, right.

00:10:51:11 – 00:11:12:20
It's a peninsula and well, so it's proper exposed then. These pubs are amazing. Anyway, we sat there and I had two Guinness zeros and after the second one I was doing it because I like the taste of this. But yeah, when you're drunk, it's weird, right? You get a compulsion to drink more alcohol when you're not drinking alcohol.

00:11:12:20 – 00:11:37:01
That compulsion leaves you like how many pints of Rhiwbina can you drink in five hours of sitting in the pub, you're maxing out at two pints, and it's the same for not a nonalcoholic beer for me, but unless I'm doing it to to to avoid the grief, then there's only so much nonalcoholic beer you can drink. So if you do go out, your mates.

00:11:37:03 – 00:11:58:05
Yeah, you're saying, well, you want to give up alcohol. So what you're saying, right? I'm not saying I'm going to give it up. I'm just saying if I, if I wanted to go down that route, it. I'm just trying to find the best path to take. If, like, you were just saying, if I was to meet my mates and have a few nonalcoholic beers, then I'm not getting drunk.

00:11:58:05 – 00:12:17:15
And I'm kind of like, I've socialized with them for two hours. They're getting drunk, and it kind of feels like I need something else. And when we came in with, yeah, we'd be fucking gone in six outside the gaff. And that's what would take me away or a vape and I'm not doing that anymore. And then should we get a ticket?

00:12:17:15 – 00:12:37:00
You get a ticket. Not doing and not doing that anymore. So you know, getting a ticket and going home with the ticket because there will be a ticket left. That's the good shit. And that's the best bit of a night. When you get home, everyone's gone and you still got cocaine left, oh, but then you boot up the PC and you sit there for hours.

00:12:37:02 – 00:12:52:05
So. Right. You're saying so you're in a predicament or a weird one, whereas you're not like, I really want to drink, but I shouldn't. You're like, I'm not sure I want a drink, so I'm probably not going to. That's fucking weird. That to me is that that's a good thing, right? That's a really good. Yeah. Yeah. So and that's, that's the thing at the moment.

00:12:52:05 – 00:13:18:12
So I don't really know where I am with it at the moment because I want to be raised. I yeah I know you're stressed you out. It's not a good thing. Just a positive thing. Yeah I think I think I'll take that. Do that. The night hazy like I know brothers playing challenge. Highs quiet. Midnight waves surfing through to daylight breaks rhythm.

00:13:18:12 – 00:13:42:22
Here are different ways. Love of music are. We prayed with our tongues in cheek manners that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what happens remains promise. Hello and welcome to large. Anonymous is episode 65. I'm Ricky, he's flab two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature.

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Something only you know and everything remains anonymous. Okay, so sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going? Flat. Good, mate. Good. Oh, good. Oh, good. Yeah, I should I've. I totally forgot to tell you. Rob on the quickie with Ricky. There was a little soft launch of the impending patron one. So I can plan. Well, I I'm going to go into that now.

00:14:17:18 – 00:14:37:18
One that I actually, as you might, say. So we get emails and DM's from people asking very various questions. Can I watch this part? No you can't, not at the moment. It's like, can I can I listen somewhere with no adverts? I get that you guys need to get adverts in, but I can't fucking stand them at the moment.

00:14:37:18 – 00:15:07:12
You come, people with dilemmas that they want to answer back to as well, that there's quite a few people that they've got their own experience of that specific dilemma or something only, you know, but they've got nowhere to, answer people now with this patron that we will be launching soon, you'll be able to watch every single large, anonymous episode that's going forward.

00:15:07:14 – 00:15:37:05
And previously what we've recorded. So we've got the entire back catalog. You'll be able to watch every single episode that we've done, answering your advert questions as well. You'll be able to listen to every pod going forward and previous pods, and there will be no advert strike selling through the podcast. No adverts. Typically we record on a Friday and you hear the podcast on a Monday.

00:15:37:07 – 00:15:57:11
If you're a patron, we'll record on a Friday. You get it on a Friday straight out of the fucking oven. You'll be burning your fingertips, the podcast will be so hot and you'll be able to listen to it straight away. The quickie with Ricky I'm not quite sure what to do with this one yet, and I said this on the, quickie of Ricky Pod.

00:15:57:13 – 00:16:23:07
I don't know whether to put this behind patron or I don't know whether to continue doing it. There's a there's a couple of bits and pieces up in the air at the moment with that. I mean, if you want my advice, but I always want my advice would be that you. Yeah. You should. Yeah. Yeah, you should like Ricky with Ricky should probably live behind a paywall just because.

00:16:23:07 – 00:16:48:07
What what this is about Rick, I don't know if you want to say this. I think I should say that the massive part of this and the massive part, the reason why, we. I started the fighting cock patron. This is like, how do I make this something that I can build? How do I how do you, Rick, how do you take this podcast to a position where it becomes your lifeblood, right.

00:16:48:07 – 00:17:08:12
And it helps satisfy everything. You, you want to do it, you want to achieve. And and a way to do that is people will will pay him because they want, you know, to hear the content, but they also want to support what you're trying to do, Rick, as well. So I think a second podcast behind the paywall is a good thing to do.

00:17:08:12 – 00:17:31:13
And if people want to support Ricky in his venture, then, then then definitely do that for so many reasons why people will. Rick. Yeah, that's a massive part of it, right? People will want to support you because they enjoy the podcast. What? I want to get more from it, but also want to support you because when I say you do good stuff, thank you very much.

00:17:31:13 – 00:17:56:12
So I, I'm I'm glad I welcome that opinion because if you were going to say no, I think you being it's why then that wouldn't have gone down. Well so thank you. Also again to answer people's questions about that, they want to speak to people about the dilemmas that they've sent in or something that, you know, or something that what you said, we are going to create a discord chat room.

00:17:56:14 – 00:18:17:03
So whatever. Just think of it. Basically forget the word discord safe space. But yeah, just like a WhatsApp chat, basically a group chat where everyone can go in dark as a WhatsApp chat. Can it go dark? Yeah, it could go dark, could go dark I hope. And there is a bit of dark. And this is one of the that's one of the selling points.

00:18:17:03 – 00:18:42:04
But one of the key selling points is becoming a Patreon. Well, one of the the litmus tests for whether or not you should not become a patron of the fine cult. When we with something different, probably much more pure and true to the spirit of the fighting cult. But was that if you you became a patron and happened to join the telegram chat, that someone in there would serve you up with a the drill video, the infamous drill video?

00:18:42:06 – 00:19:02:10
What was the joke? That, it was basically a penis? I think it was an erect penis. And, there is a drill. Someone drilling through it, through the door, down. Not through the penis. Just down. Not down. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. What's the right? Yeah, yeah, that is, that was the right passage.

00:19:02:10 – 00:19:26:00
And you'd wear that badge like that was meant to be. Right? Because I'm like, well, some people just sign up for Spurs, some other Spurs, and then they're like, what's the final page in all about? I wonder what that is. And straight drill in the cock you like. Yeah. Come on. Well we try what we doing. So I don't know if it would be as as dark as that, but, you know, maybe also you'll be first in line for any.

00:19:26:06 – 00:19:48:01
So the aim is to do two live shows this year, summer and Christmas. And the capacity for these live shows. You know, we want to get it right, but we want an intimate space. We don't want to kind of pack it out. So you will be first in line to be able to get tickets to those live shows, and they're going to be hot ticket events.

00:19:48:03 – 00:20:12:06
And you can only do that for the patron. We'll also do a podcast once a month. That would be a kind of like an Ask Me Anything live pod, so you'll be able to jump on discord, you'll be able to listen in, you'll be able to. It's like a live radio show, basically. So where you can put your hand up, you can jump in on the podcast, ask, ask us a question, tell a story, do whatever you want.

00:20:12:08 – 00:20:41:03
Now I've said all those things that are part of the patron, which will be obviously happening, but there's two things that I really want to speak about which really what I want to do. So with like Flavia saying, obviously money received from the patron goes to paying off bills and to continue doing lots. Anonymous. But where five he lives miles away from me and what I would love to do.

00:20:41:04 – 00:21:11:05
There is nothing I would love to do more than to drive where he is and take him fishing. Oh yeah, and to record that and to have like 4 or 5 videos of Flav and I fishing down the river on the canal in lakes at night, different species. And it's just going to be Arctic, you know, shooting a ship, it's obviously fishing will be part of it.

00:21:11:05 – 00:21:34:01
I think of, Bob Mortimer and Paul Whitehouse mixed with a bit of The Inbetweeners. That's kind of like, that's the, the, the show that we'll be creating. And also, I'd love to just sit down and reminisce again with Flav when we watch Peep Show and do a kind of a watch along with Peep Show. So we're watching it.

00:21:34:05 – 00:21:59:08
You can see our reactions, you can watch along with us too. So that will all be part of the patron when it's available. I'm working on that now, and we will tell you when we are about to launch it. Now, shall we get on with the show today? Flav yeah, I've got a bit. What's your shameful your most shameful subreddit follow.

00:21:59:10 – 00:22:21:17
I don't really go on Reddit, mate. It's got to be honest. You like what sort of stuff? I know, but I just find it quite text heavy, like, it's like a form of social media. You don't need opinions. You don't need it. We do. But there are people you don't know. It's don't matter. The worst thing about Twitter, mate, I would recommend if you have to spend time on your phone.

00:22:21:19 – 00:22:47:05
Yeah, and you know, I get that some people want to move away from Twitter is fucking horrible. It makes you feel horrible. Yeah. Tick tock is a little bit as well, especially when you go in the comments. You get rattled by a comment as soon as you see it. Well, it's not like that when it's almost more, much more like old school internet where the personality of the people don't really come through on it.

00:22:47:07 – 00:23:07:12
It's just people posting content randomly. Do you remember, like College Humor, that website back in the day? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Well, you just out there post viral videos essentially ahead of its time or of its time and thing. You just went under there no matter what app and YouTube came along and it just whatever. But Reddit stayed and it's great.

00:23:07:17 – 00:23:27:18
And like you can find whatever you're interested in, you can find a fucking subreddit for, I think you have, a couple of, well, I mean, I think go on Reddit. Yeah. I think the most, the most embarrassing thing that if someone looked into my Reddit and so what I was a part of in looking at maybe Transformers would be one of the.

00:23:27:23 – 00:23:49:24
But I mean, that, you know, quite wholesome. Well, I mean, I'm full. I'm 42 years old now. That's funny. Me so I'm 43, I love it. I mean, to be honest, I say I love it, I'm loving one aspect of it. You're watching, like the TV series, which is. Yeah, it's not. As I would imagine, the writing isn't as good as the as the Transformers, so maybe not know.

00:23:50:01 – 00:24:23:06
It's not, there's loads of things, loads of things wrong as well. But thinking this is fucking mental, like how did they not spot that error there, but still just watching it at the moment. I mean, at the moment I my kids and my missis bought me a Lego Optimus Prime for my 40th birthday and I'm only just got around to building it at the moment I'm halfway through, but whilst I'm building it, I am watching the original Transformers TV series.

00:24:23:08 – 00:24:40:17
I mean, that is pretty. Yeah. That is, that's fucking sad. Yeah, that is it is sad. It is. But I'm enjoying myself. Do you know what? When I did it and I thought I, I, I was like almost smiling to myself, does that. I am having the bloody best time here. Do you know I given up bloody give up on my jaws like I give it to Valerie, my step mother.

00:24:40:21 – 00:25:04:13
She got it done in one evening. She got it done. Yeah, yeah, I've got a pick up from my old man. It's cool. It's really good. I my the, I guess the subreddit up my most ashamed of. And I don't really like to admit it's fight porn. It's just people having fights. Yeah, but I follow those accounts on Instagram and, Twitter, and wherever else I think.

00:25:04:13 – 00:25:25:01
Yeah, I do like a good, good for a good bro. Yeah. Seen a backyard brawl where it's just like, it looks like a kind of octagon. Yeah. That's erupted in the in the middle of nowhere like a carpark. Yeah. And some weird people just box in each other. Yeah. What's the geezer thinks? He's watched anime and thought he could fight and just goes in there.

00:25:25:01 – 00:25:47:02
It's mad like you. Should you be putting that geezer in there is clearly on you know, if he isn't autistic is he has some sort of learning difficulty or they don't have know it beforehand. It was clear that he did. No I don't know. Yeah. And if you're obsessed with anime and then you wanted to go in the article and someone needs a safety check in there.

00:25:47:04 – 00:26:08:00
Yeah. Yeah. Because he's watched and the man thinks that you can fight that. And that's what fighting is. And he's doing all these mad moves and then getting bad. He's lost every fight. They keep putting him in there. It street beat street you say. Yeah yeah that's I keep it in this case where he's got the I don't know what anime he's watching, but he's got a symbol on his head of a symbol.

00:26:08:01 – 00:26:35:02
He goes in there with the symbol on his head and talks like he's. I am going to avenge my last defeat. Which is fine if you're proud of your brother. And. Yeah, but he's going into street beefs and they're fighting. If if a real. It's fucking corporate whatever the private Abe, you know, when you read it, is that it just to fight one I the one that does me in the sweaty palms of all sweaty palms.

00:26:35:04 – 00:26:52:09
But that's just about. That's about people going up high places that I have been. Oh, okay. Yeah, I see a couple of it, Instagram Reels where people, you know, where they're up really high and they're jumping around and they've got no rope and all that. You get a view of how high they are. I've got a GoPro.

00:26:52:11 – 00:27:09:18
Yeah. And, I, you know, I actually feel the height that there are. It's like I can feel it and my stomach is fucking or the back of my knees sweat the back of your knee, you know, like, you just get, like, it's just like your knees go when you see something you don't like. I saw mine do a little bit.

00:27:09:18 – 00:27:31:03
Like when there's a geezer whose job it is to go up a, wind turbine. And then at the top of the wind turbine, once they get up there, there is the nose where the butt turns round. Then the wind has the propellers attached to it. Yeah, right. They're not propellers. I don't know what they are, but. And there's a little hatch at the end of the nose.

00:27:31:03 – 00:27:48:12
And he has an the rail and he has to clip himself the routing, open the hatch and get into it to repair the mechanism when it's going round and not fucking dumb. And you know, there's people that talk about these like they're like massive towers in the desert in. Yeah, yeah, in, in America. And they have to change the bulbs on top of them.

00:27:48:12 – 00:28:06:24
And that's what I thought you were going to say the I seen the bulb one. Yeah. And I get paid like 200 grand a year and I'm thinking could I do it? I don't know if I could, I don't think I could climb attached to it, but it's literally climbing on the outside on sticks that are poking out of this metal pole.

00:28:06:24 – 00:28:22:23
He's climbing up it. Well, yeah. I mean, like, you can attach yourself. Well, what happens if one of the things that you stand on is, like, loose or broken, but you are the maintenance, you're the guy that goes up there and the maintenance, you have to like you. It's you. It's on you to make sure it's safe for you to climb up.

00:28:23:00 – 00:28:43:04
What if you forget something? All right, I've got to attach myself. You know what I'm like. Yeah. As long as I lose my keys, I lose my wallet three times a week, right? I'm definitely going to forget to attach myself to one pole. Unless it dead. If I do that, I'm dead. Like, I'll get out. You can't, fuck.

00:28:43:04 – 00:29:03:15
You know, Jesus Christ, my, my, I think my misses would give me more chance of shitting. I'd have a better chance to survive in the frontline in the Ukraine and Russian war than I would if I was on my own. Going up, up and down those things. Yeah, I would, I would say the same at today. I'd say the same is what I would be getting out of, of an actual war.

00:29:03:19 – 00:29:08:05
Yeah. Actual going up and down those.

00:29:08:07 – 00:29:16:17
And not because I'm good at fighting or know what what I'm doing. I'm definitely done if I got one of them.

00:29:16:19 – 00:29:48:10
The, topic for today is money. But any money can get away. Yeah, this is a bit of a it's a lot. No one really talks about money. And like, especially I don't know, when I was younger no one did. No one spoke about salary, how much you earn or anything unless you're a fucking baller. And you were you know, you're in that upper band and you'd be like, my basic is 100 K or whatever.

00:29:48:10 – 00:30:12:09
Then you'd obviously go around telling everyone because it's a lot of money, but apart from that, any other kind of money issues or chat would never or would never arise. When you grow up where your parents quiet did they enjoy spend up? What were they like for my dad with that money, but that did not allow that might affect you as well.

00:30:12:09 – 00:30:32:21
I mean, I had the best of both worlds and I genuinely say the best of both worlds because my mum didn't have a pot to piss in. Yeah, she left my dad at when, when I, when I was five. And so she went into made a decision that made lots of money from well it was very comfortable. He's a plumber essentially engineer for a long time and so was paid well.

00:30:32:21 – 00:30:55:09
Right. So we, Sorry, my dad's side of things. I had a really nice house. My dad. Some people might see them. Social media, Social media. My dad's house is really lovely. I he's got good. I spent a lot of money on stuff, whereas my mum didn't have that. So I had both things right. When Christmas at one was very different at Christmas and the other, but I didn't prefer one over the other.

00:30:55:11 – 00:31:14:13
So I had both things we did. Did that make you though, like, like for you? Because I remember you saying that your dad had one, the first kind of, Is it Discman? Yeah, definitely had a Sony Walkman. He had a Hi-Fi. That was top of the range. We always had a massive television. We always had Sky.

00:31:14:19 – 00:31:37:10
As soon as BSkyB or cable came, we had it. We had, we had good surround sound. Surround sound. Just spent money, had a nice car. Until he decided that we didn't need a car anymore. His work van was fine. So we got to go everywhere. And his fucking work van, bearing in mind at times above that could be up to five kids that he was ferrying around.

00:31:37:12 – 00:31:53:24
And so we'd have to sit in the back. We went up to Spurs by Aston Villa. Right. I think the Boxing Day and Spurs played there might not be on Boxing Day we drove up and you could fit two in the cabin and three of us were in the back of the van sitting on tolls for from London to Birmingham anyway.

00:31:54:00 – 00:32:17:15
Yeah, yeah, it's a nice car. Yeah. No, it was like a trainers, like I'd buy trainers and clothes and he bought me a high five for my room and stuff like that, but just did that. So when you so obviously dad was like that, your mum was through like my mum was I mean I grew up with my, my parents were like one of about 5 or 6.

00:32:17:17 – 00:32:53:20
My mum was working two jobs a lot at the time, so money was very scarce in the house, did her best as always, but it wasn't. It wasn't that lavish type of where you don't really think about money, spending it and putting it down on whatever. So naturally when I grew up, I have always been that way. I count every penny I look at what I'm doing with when I go shopping, how much I like.

00:32:53:20 – 00:33:14:08
If you're when I'm looking on the food shelves and I'm trying to decide what to buy with something, and you get the most for your pound in a kilo or whatever, I'm, you know, I'm looking at that to see how much. Yeah. You all you see, you put a lot. Yeah. So I am I am like that. But with you you're quite the opposite.

00:33:14:08 – 00:33:42:16
You're very much you go in and if you're looking for why I should be like that, says rice, I'm dropping it. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Same like if something breaks, I just can't be flat to fix it. Just buy a new one, like sort of thing. Yeah. And we've had this discussion before where if I, trying to buy a Hoover, go through every single review, I'll go through every single kind of the specifications, how much it costs, what it does and all that.

00:33:42:21 – 00:34:04:00
And again, not like what you just type in Hoover and then there's one there. So someone might miss me because I bought that the, the we bought we got one of the mines that sit on a tank. Oh yeah. Yeah I can get one now. What have you got one. I thought one I was going to say right.

00:34:04:00 – 00:34:32:15
Because if you haven't got one, that's fucking joke. Because it's about time. Everything in life is about time for me. Yeah. Is can I do I have the money to make this go quicker or can I avoid it altogether? Right. So if I. And that's what's value to me. Right okay. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I think about the, the money itself when like I've got 100 pounds or I've got 120 pounds.

00:34:32:15 – 00:34:53:05
Right. And I who was one or the other. Right. I'm not going to spend half a day to save £20 checking out this Hoover because in my opinion my time, half of my day is worth more than £20. That could be me sitting on my ass wanking for, well, all right. It's what I want to do with the time.

00:34:53:07 – 00:35:12:22
It's not my time. I'm fine. I'm in the process of buying the house, right? Which is not fucking. Just get scary, scary, expensive. Yeah. I'm like, well, you've got to bring, you've got, you know, you've got to start learning how to do DIY or learning how to wire stuff and plugs and whatever. And I'm like, no, I don't.

00:35:12:22 – 00:35:33:05
Well, I do if I can't, if there's a way, if I, if I am I going to botch something myself or get paid? Somebody knows what they're doing to do it. It's like I just I don't know, it's like it's for example, the plastering, the some plastering. He's doing part of the house and he's like, oh man, you can do it.

00:35:33:05 – 00:35:48:15
And I'm like, I don't want to fucking do that. Well you die. The last thing I want to do is me and you lose all temper with each other. Putting some plasterboard up at 100%. You'd be doing that as well. Yeah. So I'm going to find a plaster and I'm going to pay him. That's what I'm going to do because that's his job.

00:35:48:15 – 00:36:04:04
That's what he's good at. He's done it. He's really good at plaster and he's gone to school and he's learned it. I'm not I don't, I don't I don't want to waste time looking at the finer details of a Hoover rake anyway. But yeah, I don't think everyone agrees. I think my Mrs. that I bought the wrong iron.

00:36:04:06 – 00:36:23:19
I bought a Breville one which weren't as good as the Morphy Richards we had before. I don't know what's wrong with it, but apparently because she does all the ironing. Not that I don't do any homework. Housework, but she doesn't. Yeah. No, I it's interesting that you about money and time because I don't that's not one perspective.

00:36:23:19 – 00:36:41:08
I don't, that's not a perspective that I have. And I don't look at that and view it like that, but I probably should do it because I would get more time back in my life if I was just a bit more, you know, if I wanted to loosen the belt a bit more on it. I think you're built that way, though.

00:36:41:12 – 00:37:03:01
You like. There is a reward system that exists inside you that yes, fired when you fix the washing machine. I think it's more than just, you know, I. Yeah, no, I think yeah, I think you're right actually. Yeah. The satisfaction of when you, when I need something then it's broken and I fix it myself is it does make me have an erection.

00:37:03:03 – 00:37:19:12
Yeah. So so that's great. That's wholesome. That's fine. That's good. Yeah. If you're just doing it because you don't want to spend the money on a new, then eventually you have to. You're not gonna be able to fix that washing machine forever. You know, it's like.

00:37:19:14 – 00:37:45:07
I don't know, when you come to money, people go have strange like, for example, like a lot of people originally advised me not to buy this house. A lot of people go, and you ought be careful. It's a money pit. The amount of money it's going to take to do ups, you're not going to get that back in in terms of the the money, the house isn't going to go up like it's not going to the amount of money I spend, which I know I understand.

00:37:45:09 – 00:38:05:07
Where was everybody when I was dropping tens of thousands of pounds on a wedding? Where was everyone going? That's a money pit. That's a waste of money, because that was as much as I loved it. And it was incredible. Party for four days. Yeah. It was it was a wonderful, wonderful day. I know that, right? Because everyone tells me they did well, actually less that people are becoming less frequent in how often.

00:38:05:07 – 00:38:22:06
That's how they tell me no. So they so and I understand that and I appreciate it. And it was a great wedding and and I wouldn't change it for the world, but it was a lot of money for, for they buy a fortune. A fucking fortune, right. Yeah.

00:38:22:08 – 00:38:39:14
But it's because it's socially acceptable to spend that at drop an absolute. Yeah, for all intents and purposes, waste a lot of money on a big pile. Yeah, not waste it. Waste the wrong word. But in effect, in terms of the value of the money, how much are you getting for the money you spend in a wedding? There's a money pit, right?

00:38:39:15 – 00:39:00:22
You don't get anything back but the memories and a video. Yeah. Right. And and I would do it again and I loved it. I would absolutely do it again. But why is it when we're actually doing something and we're moving towards something that actually builds a secure future for you, that you look at and you go, right, this is going to be expensive, but we're investing in something that is going to make our lives better.

00:39:00:24 – 00:39:21:13
Yeah, right. You can have a kitchen in there that you want to cook in. You're going to have a house that's comfortable. You can have room to breathe. People can come around. It's a big house. It changes our life in a different way. Yeah, but people's going to stage pretty much across the board is, not sure it's going to cost you a lot of money and then not a single ticket when we get married.

00:39:21:13 – 00:39:42:18
It doesn't make any sense. It's almost like there's this pre built inbuilt thing about houses that everyone becomes a fucking expert. It doesn't mean it like we had to get asbestos removal. Suddenly everyone I talked to oh wow. Spare us. And I talked to a builder. He went in a big deal is architects on the ceiling. It's about a millimeter thick.

00:39:42:18 – 00:40:04:20
We get it out. It is expensive to remove, but it's not the end of the world. It's in every house, but pretty much of a certain age. Right. So I'll talk to him as well. He knows. Talk to someone who's never experienced that. If they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fucked man. Don't know anything about it. You're causing stress and you're walking away from this conversation and never thinking about it again.

00:40:04:21 – 00:40:29:12
You leave for the fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No I totally yeah, I get that, man. Fucking no, it must be, obviously there's a lot of work going into your house, and it must be loads. Yeah. Mega stressful. Like it's going to be with that money side. And again, chatting about the taboo of money that no one talks about.

00:40:29:14 – 00:40:49:02
All you open up. I'm not saying fucking discuss it. Yeah, but I like when you chat to your brothers, when you chat to your mates. That calling, are you open to say did you free. Do you say I bought it for this much? I reckon it's going to cost this much. Yeah, I've got this much of a deposit.

00:40:49:02 – 00:41:09:19
You're quite free. And I put my brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a promise. We, we usually promises a different conversation, right? Because everything's open. Like, everybody knows what everybody else is, you know, more or less not. We're not interested in each other, in each other's earnings. So one of my brothers were interested because he's got like a really good job lot, and he's works really hard and spends all the money he makes.

00:41:09:19 – 00:41:36:15
But but yeah, but it's it's very much a private thing. Right. Okay. Something that you would discuss with family but some people don't. But but in our instance we will. It's very open. And I think it helped by the fact that by and large, all of us have done okay to some degree. Growing up, we we opened like even when you were working at Archie and maybe not Woolworths a bit, a little bit further down the line.

00:41:36:15 – 00:41:56:05
Yeah, when I was working in the mid 2030s and not, not, not less. So I think it was just an unspoken I knew of skin. So they paid for my drinks kind of thing. That's that's the truth. Oh no. Yeah. I mean, to a certain degree like it. Yeah. Yeah, I but but not. Why were you asking the question?

00:41:56:07 – 00:42:19:05
What are you saying? What are you doing so. Well, like, I mean, I don't I don't think I've ever had a conversation with my sister about how much I un or un or any of that money she found in Latin. I think she she needed a driveway doing so. She said she got that done, and she also there was something else in the house that she needed doing.

00:42:19:05 – 00:42:36:18
But it was it was. Did you manage to convert it because it was old. No man's got money yet. So. So I found a tin of old brick. Mrs.. What? Sorry, sister. Found the tin of old banknotes that had gone out of date, and I was just wondering if you managed to exchange them. All right. That's right. So she moved into a house.

00:42:36:18 – 00:42:59:03
They were taken out the wardrobe. And within this wardrobe there was a little gap at the back, and there was a metal tobacco tin. And she thought, what the fuck is that? And she opened it and it was full of old 20 pound banknotes, which was a significant amount of money. Yeah. And she got it, went to the bank.

00:42:59:03 – 00:43:24:23
They changed it, deposit it in their account. Bob's your uncle. Lovely stuff. But, Yeah. And with my mum, I'm quite open with my mum. How much I own, and with my dad. Previously spoke to them, but with a mates. I'm not really. I don't think I've ever had a situation with my mates to say line in the sand.

00:43:25:00 – 00:43:57:18
This is how much I earn. I think they maybe could guess, you know, when I was working in the, you know, back out in the corporate world and stuff, they'd probably have an idea of how much I earn. But like with with your mates and stuff, I never was open. There's only a couple of my mates that were fairly open, and that's because they were earning like 100 K Big Dog, and they're flying to different countries for their business and they, you know, there are higher fliers.

00:43:57:18 – 00:44:15:16
So it's when you when you're, when you're caked, it's all right to say, yeah, this is how much I earn. I sometimes I don't. If you ever read this record, I sometimes used to look Rangan house. How does someone afford to run a car? But how did they know that I had that? That family got two cars. How do I afford it?

00:44:15:16 – 00:44:34:24
That is mad a lot. I spent a lot of my youth like that, but I still, I still I am still like that. Yeah, I like, I mean I am still I will see people on social media and I kind of know what they do for a living. And I kind of know what their Paul does and their family set up.

00:44:34:24 – 00:45:11:08
And I'm like, how are they going on so many holidays? Or how have they got a top of the range Range Rover? Or have they, you know, those types of things. And that is I like I just don't know how people do it. When you see the flip side of how you live in comparison to other people, I think that is a real dangerous part of, social media and the comparison thing, because where, you know, everything that you see is real on social, you know what I mean?

00:45:11:10 – 00:45:34:09
Like, you could be seeing people and they're, you know, they're up there, they're going on a business trip and they're going to fucking, I don't know, Japan or something. I think, oh, they're higher flier whatever. They may be absolutely miserable in their job. It might be so stressful. They might be not hitting any of their performance reviews or anything like that.

00:45:34:11 – 00:45:57:01
But all we see is, oh, they, you know, mate is fucking going on. Yeah. People are very, very good at like selling the best parts of their lives on social media. I generally I don't make any. This isn't aspersion on anybody. I know. This isn't a judgment on anybody I know. But the people yeah tend to I don't I don't.

00:45:57:03 – 00:46:17:12
It's like people that post themselves as couples constantly online and doing things. It almost like I'm like, what? Yeah, who is this? Is it for you? Is it for your ego? Is it for what? Is that? Yeah, yeah. Demonstrating to people that you're happy when you're not. Is it just like, oh, let's just we're living our best life kind of thing.

00:46:17:14 – 00:46:44:16
I don't, I don't know my I am 100% with you on that because there's a few people I know and I and I try and understand it is to say, is it to kind of, solidify that they, they've got a strong relationship, or is it the fact that they, it's that kind of look where we are.

00:46:44:16 – 00:47:14:05
We're here, we're there, we're everywhere. This is our lifestyle. And I don't know, and I don't know, it's just it's just a weird thing to kind of, try and analyze, I guess. But going back to the the money chat, do you like, when you were young, were you ever in debt? You did. You got time. I mean, like, effectively I'm in debt still.

00:47:14:07 – 00:47:33:02
But is that because of, housing that or that now being fucking mountains of that then. But no, but once that side like, I'm in debt to the tune of close to half 1 million pounds, which is mental jewelry. Not, not, not in total. I mean, it was buying the house. No, no, that's not true. Right.

00:47:33:03 – 00:47:56:22
So we bought a house. The house is it's a lot of money. Right. But that's what a mortgage is. I don't know what a Mort it is. It's like a death loan. That's what it means. Mort means death and rt. It means it's like a loan or that you'll never go. That's what a mortgage. That. Right? That sounds really.

00:47:56:24 – 00:48:22:14
That sounds good. Yes. But massively. We're all sort of. So, like, scrambling a war towards getting these mountains of debts. Anyway. But no. Yeah, I would always be, like, in my overdraft and and even now, like, I have a, I've got a business account and then I've got a current account that I keep around the overdraft limit like, not my overdraft suddenly around zero and I'll have an overdraft I'll go into every now and then and then I put more money in.

00:48:22:14 – 00:48:49:02
But and then there's got a like loans, a couple of loans, that sort of thing called that. Yeah. So when I was, when I was younger I like no one really obviously people no one explained a credit card to me. Well that's crazy, I knew I didn't know, it's smart. I knew what it was, I knew I it was money that was on this card and I could spend it and I'd have to pay it back.

00:48:49:02 – 00:49:24:12
I know, I know, that's how that works. Yeah, but I didn't realize that when you get to a certain amount that you were like, this is a lot of money that I am for what I have is a salary. I can't really pay it back. It's like I can pay money back, but it's the bare minimum and it's not really getting rid of this debt on a like if I been explained, read it kind of what I should be doing and what I should be using the credit card for a may.

00:49:24:14 – 00:49:40:07
It may have been a different outcome. But again, I was young at that time, but I don't we don't we don't get any physical training. No no no none of us did. I didn't no one told me about how to manage my overdraft. No one told me what check do. And one they bounce. And no one told me about what?

00:49:40:13 – 00:49:56:22
How to manage credit card debt. You weren't told anything. You were just a certain age given a bank account and given a credit card to go with it. And no one. No one told you? No one. My parents, my parents, like, literally failed to give me the information I needed to. I just thought, fuck, you know, it's good.

00:49:56:24 – 00:50:25:14
What? I'm jokin. I can spend on a credit card. £800. Your brain. At that age, I can't go in. I'll figure it's going. I'll figure this out later. I'm gonna train this. Oh, my God, that was like. I'm like, the minute my money problem started it all. Going to university, that's where I was going to say. I was going to say like, you went to uni, so you would have had, a loan.

00:50:25:14 – 00:50:43:10
Student loan? Yes. Student loan. But that isn't an issue because that doesn't get paid back till years later. Okay. I didn't know that. Well, I mean, I need that. Yeah. You get you get a student loan when I was there, you get a student loan, and it was like three grand a year. And that pays for your salary.

00:50:43:14 – 00:50:54:15
That pays for your tuition? Well, it did for me. And then you have a certain 3,000 pounds. Yeah. Free French, five grand a year. I think it was.

00:50:54:17 – 00:51:16:23
No, no, hang on. I left about 20 grand worth of debt. So. So it was about, oh, seven grand a year. Whatever. It was 20 fucking or nothing. Now that it even university with 50, 60,000 pounds in debt now Jesus Christ. Really. Yeah. So that's like that's what you essentially your daughters are looking at when they go if they want to go to university, that's what they've taken on.

00:51:16:23 – 00:51:33:14
And I went on their degree. That really was fucking point. I didn't even finish my degree. I left. So, yeah, was a complete fucking waste of time. I had a good time, but it was a complete waste of time again. It was just you went to. You went to sixth form. They said, go. You have to go to university.

00:51:33:14 – 00:51:50:01
Everyone's going to university. I guess university did it. Did that cost me a fucking fortune. Well, not even, you know, compared to what it is now, but you'd have a certain amount of money that would pay for the tuition, right? And then you would have what's left of your loan to live on, which wasn't enough. It was something like £500 a fucking term.

00:51:50:01 – 00:52:09:20
It was mad. You might you left about two grand for three months. That's what you got to live on. Fucking. Oh, man. So you run out, everyone run out. So you go get a hardship loan, which add your loan, which is like £500 a time. You just had to show them that you had no money in your bank account, and they gave you £500.

00:52:09:22 – 00:52:29:10
And you could do that three times a year. So did that. Kush did. I think everyone did. There was a queue there. Yeah, there was a queue. And then on top of that, you're like, oh, well, I run, I'm still running out of money as an overdraft or being given an overdraft as an instant. And what that is about is a bank trapping you in that inside that account for as long as possible.

00:52:29:12 – 00:52:46:06
I was still in my overdraft. I'd created it university by the time I was 30. Still in that overdraft? Fuck. Really? Yeah. Because I didn't earn enough money to pay off the £1,800 I'd made when I was at university, I didn't. That's a month's wages. That was about a month's wages for me. So where was I paying that?

00:52:46:08 – 00:53:03:19
Where was I ever going to be able to pay that overdraft off? Yeah. They don't teach you any of this in school day. They know they and they should be. And like I like what I think when I finish on is you sit down and listen to talk about the Bible or fuck it, the stuff like when, when at 14 you could not give a shit about.

00:53:03:21 – 00:53:29:05
And the ones that did give a shit out went to Sunday school anyway. Yeah. And they like. So instead of that what would have been really useful. This is what happens when a paycheck bounces. What I think what what would be really useful. And this is what someone emailed in about, self-employment. So I obviously I'm starting my self-employment journey.

00:53:29:07 – 00:54:00:01
I've got no idea what the fuck's going on, what I need to do, how I need to do it, what I need to say for tax, all that stuff. When you started out, obviously, started the the fighting cock, did you have any education on any of that stuff or was it kind of like, I'm, I'm just moving forward and I know I need to do stuff, but asking different people or if you have just get an accountant.

00:54:00:03 – 00:54:28:17
Yeah, that's rule one. Like and people go, I don't want to pay for an accountant. I want to do my own taxes. You can't. Yeah you can't. It's you cannot understand the tax system. You cannot understand the how to manage cash flow directors loans, what needs to go in and out of a directors loan when you when you put that money in what the limit is each year.

00:54:28:19 – 00:54:47:19
What when tax brackets come into force. At what point is what profit and what's revenue. You can't understand it. There's a reason why accountants are on every high street is because they're crucial to everybody. I can't anybody in the business out. If you're starting out and there isn't much going in and out, you won't pay an accountant a lot of money.

00:54:47:21 – 00:55:11:01
The minute becomes it becomes, complicated is when they start to really earn their money and their prices go up, but they will save you. Not through being tricky with the books or doing anything illegal merely by understanding the system. Save you money. You save more money than you would pay an accountant. And if you were to do stuff yourself, you might miss something.

00:55:11:01 – 00:55:31:10
You may not understand some family and you will end up. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. You'll end up getting a massive bill and you'll be fucked. So I get an account and it's the first thing. What would be? So I don't need an account unless you. If you become a limited company, you don't. You need an accountant. If you're just the sole trader.

00:55:31:12 – 00:55:50:18
Yeah. Then you can sort of work out what types you owe because, you know, the. It's very simple, isn't it? You know, between zero and where are we? 0 in 18 I have zero and 13,000. That's tax free. Open that 13 to 30. These aren't the correct brackets by the way. Then you start paying 18% tax and then the next bracket goes up.

00:55:50:18 – 00:56:13:07
So you can work out your tax by doing a self-assessment. Yeah. But the minute you become a limited company, which is a more tax efficient way to operate, that's when it becomes super complicated. So get accounts. Yeah. Oh yeah. All that stuff is totally over my head. What are the pros and cons of being a, being self-employed now, I hadn't realized.

00:56:13:07 – 00:56:46:10
Well, I mean, I had realized, like, away from the corporate kind of world, working for a boss, having to do things that I absolutely despise, and being involved in things that I, you know, I really don't like, and all of that stuff, obviously, that is no longer with me. And but one of the kind of things that I've found difficult of being self-employed is it's not 9 to 5, Monday to Friday, and you go to then you get better and you get your weekend.

00:56:46:10 – 00:57:11:05
It's not working a lot, really. What are the what are the things that you've that you've enjoyed about being self-employed? And one of the things that you kind of like, as you fucking tell me this. So not sure. Yeah. Yeah. Because you are just you I mean, obviously more than me, but you, working a lot online, a lot for yourself.

00:57:11:07 – 00:57:37:05
And that you're working for yourself is different than working for someone else. Exactly. Yeah, I don't I mean, here, I'm in this office every single day. A week without a shadow of a doubt. Like there isn't, especially during the season. Offseason also. But, you're in there, but it doesn't feel like work. Is it because it's. You're working for yourself, you're building something if you are in future so that freedom to not have a boss is that like anybody?

00:57:37:07 – 00:57:55:23
If you've got a good idea or something, a product to sell or a business idea, give yourself six months to see if it works. Give yourself a year if you can afford to do it. Because if you get it right, the opportunity to earn more money is there than you would do in the 9 to 5, unless you didn't have an amazing opportunity.

00:57:56:00 – 00:58:19:01
Yeah. Freedom to to to be to work on the things that you think are important rather than what an employer thinks, what's important to an employer? You know, there's a reason you got a job, right? In a job in a job, it's because you lose your job in a 9 to 5. If you cost more than you make that company, right, that's when you are made redundant.

00:58:19:01 – 00:58:46:21
For whatever reason, it might not be full. Maybe it's your fault, but you're made redundant or fired when you cost the company more than you make them. Yeah, if you're making the company more through whatever means, I freeing up time for a manager to go out and find new deals, whatever it might be, then you'll always have a job, and you'll get promoted to a point where you know that is that if that's always a fact, but you're always working towards their agenda, not your own.

00:58:46:23 – 00:59:06:15
So you're kind of stuck there, but you're free to make. That's the last one. The, is just working for the thing that I kind of like. My missus will say, oh, you've been in your office all day. And I'm like, I know, but I'm not. I'm working for myself. And it doesn't really feel like work because I'm working for myself and I enjoy what I'm doing.

00:59:06:15 – 00:59:24:08
So I want to keep doing this for as long as I possibly can, because this kind of work life balance and what I'm doing at the moment is, is great. And I don't want to, well, you're you're about to become a household that is completely working for yourself. And I think most people yeah, I think most people.

00:59:24:10 – 00:59:44:19
But a lot of people do work towards that. And then, yeah, you know, it's happening more and more that you're entrepreneurial. I know it's great, man. It's great. The I just want to say the I didn't mention this at the top end of the show, and I probably should have done the something only you know today is it.

00:59:44:21 – 01:00:09:07
It's a bit know a it goes from 0 to 60 real quickly. It's, you know, like if you if you're on a roller coaster and it says it's the, you know, you experienced G-Force five on it and you're like, yeah, it goes pretty quick. I'll sit on it. And then it got on and then it hits that G-Force and you're like, fuck, this is fast.

01:00:09:09 – 01:00:30:21
This. It shifts along like that. So you need to, hold onto your hats with that one. And with dilemma. It's called sleeping with a loaded gun. Something on you? You know, it's called the final boss of crossing. So that that leaves you or you need to know the topic for next week is who are your idols and why?

01:00:31:00 – 01:00:54:04
Who did you look up to as a kid? What about now? What type of people like film directors, writers, musicians? Anyone in your life? If you can send in an email or DM's on social about who your child was, are and why, we will discuss them. Email us at Lad's Anon pod at gmail.com and we'll read them out.

01:00:54:04 – 01:01:23:08
And we are about to go into dilemmas. So I'll just tell you got an issue for a tissue, your paycheck. And will this keep an aching in your soul along in your flat plate talks of making a flat head. Let the stress of your chest what little friends you deserve. That. Like you're safe to get lost in a war between breaking them.

01:01:23:10 – 01:01:47:16
So you come with a loaded gun. I need some advice that I wanted to share because of Ricky's open and honest chat around what he calls sexy dreams. Please keep me anonymous, but this happens to me maybe 2 or 3 times a year. And I mean my mid 30s. I'm happily married and my wife knows about it and thankfully doesn't think it's that weird.

01:01:47:18 – 01:02:12:03
I mean, it's not weird. Anyway. Annoyingly, she is very light sleeper and this seems to happen. This seems to happen to me the worst moments imaginable. It happened when we were staying at a friend's house in Chicago a couple of years ago. So when I realize I have to deal with it, I don't have the comfort of being in my usual surroundings.

01:02:12:05 – 01:02:40:20
I'm writing this email from Paris, and of course it happened again last night for the first time in months. So again, I'm up in the middle of the night trying to figure out a way to the bathroom in the dark to sort myself out without my wife knowing. Absolute nightmare. I can't even remember what the dream was about, but my subconscious always seems to do this to me in the worst possible circumstances.

01:02:40:22 – 01:03:09:13
If you've got any advice, that would be appreciated, but I just wanted to take the time to share flag. Count yourself lucky this doesn't happen to you. What? So you just blasted off all the time during the night? Yeah, it's like he's, Is it, is it nocturnal emissions? That's what he's missing. He doesn't like it. Well, he's misses a light sleeper, so every time he has one, he has to try and, you know, get out of bed.

01:03:09:15 – 01:03:34:19
And she's just awake straight away. She knows he's he's blasted off and he can't. He can't hide. I mean, what do you think your blast of King. Yeah, I and the blast of guy. So for me, the best way to try and avoid it is to not walk around or go to bed with a loaded gun. And you can't do that every night.

01:03:34:21 – 01:03:59:19
I get it. But every time in my mind, every. If I'm a promise of a commitment, is it just can't do it well, like every 3 to 4 days, I'll have to empty the chamber because. Because I know it's it's so empty every day. I mean, I can't, but I think really, you can't really wank every day. I know, but this guy needs to eat.

01:03:59:19 – 01:04:11:21
This is just the bane of his life. But the point is, is that you. That's what you need to say. Go every single day. Yeah. So that's why is.

01:04:11:23 – 01:04:42:19
Why is if he wants to kick he. Yeah, I know, I think you just got to. Don't wait until the next time you have a roll about with the misses. You know, you've got to take try and take the accountability for yourself. Credit. Cuz every 3 to 4 days when you get to bed at night, like have a spare pair of boxes the side of your bed, I'll just say them off if you sleep naked.

01:04:42:21 – 01:04:59:06
Yeah, I mean, you should probably fight. Should know. Then. You know, I don't understand what the problem is here. Like what? You understand? Yeah, I know she will, but you can't keep saying no. I imagine, you know, you went to bed with your wife, and then she woke up and you were completely naked, forced off. And that's why.

01:04:59:10 – 01:05:18:15
Why you naked? And it's like, oh, I had a plaster. That's fine, that's fine. But then once it's like, this is happening every sixth day when you guys see you wake up and you haven't got your boxes, okay. He's asleep. He doesn't know. Right? So, I mean, if he was an epileptic and he's having a seizure, no one would go look at you.

01:05:18:15 – 01:05:33:09
You're having a seizure again. You do. You never stop. I mean, you wake me up. Stop it. Yeah. They're not going to say that. They're. You know. Jesus. What? You need some help? I want to help you. It's the same thing. You can't help it if he's doing it. So you think maybe you should ask his wife for help?

01:05:33:09 – 01:06:03:06
He needs to understand it better. Yeah. So the I would say obviously explains the misses spare pair of boxes at the side of the bed as well, just in case. And to make sure that you maintain yourself. That's why I would advise. Right. The next thing is something only you know why. Something, you know, the final boss of bros in.

01:06:03:08 – 01:06:27:02
If you love talking about prices, I knew this was the perfect opportunity. Now, this is truly something only you and I. I'm a whole manga. I love going browsing. You can't be a good pun. When I was young, I was in so high and one of my mates took me to a bathhouse. I loved it, I need the fact it was transactional.

01:06:27:04 – 01:06:55:11
Hey money, there you go. And that's it. And let's face it, you can take a bird out, pay money and not get laid. So Thailand, Vegas, the damn. I've been a few times and I've been like a kid in a sweet shop. But then I found adult work. Fuck me. What a choice. You can pick the perfect bros and whatever king takes your fancy.

01:06:55:17 – 01:07:34:02
And I'll be honest, I fucked all kinds of women. Tall bird, short birds, fat, skinny, dumb sub squares, screamers, big tits, little tits, the list goes on. I've got different hotlist set up on my account and saved prices are fucked. Prices that next squares Dom's built for comfort, not speed. Mature hairy submissive local travel. Amazonian big tits. You go through the profiles and see what they do and what they have to offer, and make your perverted choice whatever floats your boat.

01:07:34:04 – 01:07:58:21
I came up with loads of different kings, and that can usually find someone who's happy to service my depravity. I'm not in a relationship at the moment. I have been. I still do it. I don't see it as cheating. It's just me getting a little bit of mucking out and that is something only I know that's banging. That is literally I mean, what?

01:07:58:23 – 01:08:21:13
I mean, I mean, each his own. No one's getting on this subject in the street. I am I've never heard of adult welcome. Yeah. No, I mean, it's not like prostitution is something I've never considered because, I don't think I'd be able to go through with it. No, I say the same. I mean, I wouldn't that would be a bit terrifying.

01:08:21:13 – 01:08:39:06
Like going to a a room, I'm assuming is a room like Amsterdam is you're walking around and it's literally in front of everyone. You've got to go through this window, and then you have sex with a woman in another room behind it. Right? Yeah. So as I understand it, legitimately, I don't know. Right? I've never walked through one of those windows.

01:08:39:08 – 01:09:03:04
I can say that on my wife's life. Anyway. So. But that's why I've been told even that. And then you're in there about five minutes with someone. It's the idea of having sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you. Is something so off put into me, I couldn't. It's not only that, the it's kind of quite,

01:09:03:06 – 01:09:30:19
What's the word I am looking for? It's like a procedure. It's like you're going in there. And from what I've heard, you have to shower. The the, you know, the sex worker washes you, and then it's kind of like the journey goes on and just go at it for whatever or whatever you want to do, and then your five minutes is up or whatever, and then and then you get dressed and get out.

01:09:30:19 – 01:09:50:03
It's very I told you about the transactional my the Amsterdam story, though. I must have told you that. Yeah, I have, yeah. That phrase from it, was it something like, come back when you're a man? I come back when you're brave.

01:09:50:05 – 01:10:05:04
But just quickly, a mate of mine recites himself up over a four day period when we went on another friend stag day, and in the last day, members in this pub, it would have been like every one of the pubs anyone knows. Amsterdam is like one of the mate. I can't remember what it's called, but it's like on one side it's like the red district.

01:10:05:04 – 01:10:23:00
On either side it's both red. That red light district place, one side is a main street, another the other side we go out. It goes out into like the canal where some of the windows are. And he just sights himself up. Got to a point on the last night, as I have done. I'm done, I'm done. And, he goes in there and he can't get up, obviously.

01:10:23:00 – 01:10:41:20
And it starts with, like as soon as you guys through the window, I grabbed him by the cock and washing it vigorously in the sink, like, anyone who can go from that to hard. Yeah, is a champion in my eyes, because I just came. And then when he couldn't get it up, obviously all his worst fears about it.

01:10:41:20 – 01:11:01:02
The reason why it's waited so long for days and it turning over and over in his head, it's because something like this might happen. And then it did happen and he was going out. That's the way he speaks. Now going to said he's got a weird way. I know exactly who you're talking to. Yeah, I know that.

01:11:01:02 – 01:11:24:00
No, I think we'll leave it there. So keep your eye out for the patron coming out. That will be with you guys soon. The topic for next week is who are your idols and why? So if you've got any stories or anything you want to send in, send in to lad's Anon pod. Gmail.com and we will see you next Monday.

01:11:24:02 – 01:11:47:10
The night hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music I. We prayed with our tongues in cheek band. And we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:00:00:08 – 00:00:18:04
So I have been really stressed out because I don't know, I just have been like, there's been a lot on top and it's mad. What happens to your brain when you stress like turns you into different person? Like my yesterday, my the last two days, my head I've been so stressed out, it's unreal. My my head's really, really sort of fuzzy.

00:00:18:04 – 00:00:38:22
Feel like I had no energy. I just fuckin felt terrible this morning. Full of beans. Woke up. No problems to make it. Like everything's going to be sorted. Everything will be fine. I don't know, this man didn't know how the brain works. Like yesterday. I'm like, this is a mess. Today. I'm like, this is fine. Why is it?

00:00:39:00 – 00:01:01:18
Well, I don't know. Is it? Have you. Have you woken up? What's the weather like where you are? Is it? I wish food is beautiful. Was. It was like 19 degrees sunny. It was absolutely beautiful. I woke, I had a good night's sleep. That probably helped. So I got my I got my I'm a slave to the Samsung watch.

00:01:01:20 – 00:01:21:24
Yeah. You, you are you a slave to. Well my Fitbit. Yeah. You got a Fitbit. All right. Same thing. Yeah. Yeah. So I sometimes I get into sort of passive aggressive disagreements with my ex, with my smartwatch, with my Samsung. Right. Yeah. But then the other day, I woke up and I was like, I feel like I was a good sleep.

00:01:22:00 – 00:01:47:10
Better check. Bad check on the fair. What do you mean, fucking fair? Up in in bed. Things are past ten. It's 6:45 in the morning. That's loads of sleep. What do you mean, fucking fair? They are. You check it. They check the slave. What do you mean, fair, man? I'm should be. That should be an excellent sleep to put me in a I started and it put me in a bad mood because I'm like, you tell me I'm fair.

00:01:47:16 – 00:02:03:24
And then it went. You better up your steps because that was shit yesterday, more or less. It said to me, really? Yeah. It says you need to up your exercise and you consider improving your exercise. Don't tell me what to fucking consider. You can't. You're an inanimate object. I am full of emotion. All right. You so right. You going?

00:02:03:24 – 00:02:20:20
You don't know what my day was like yesterday. It was tough. I do a lot of work on sedentary sitting in front of the fucking screen. And the Samsung watch is telling me, oh, you need to up your game a little bit. You fucking know. Would you, would you like it if your watch was a bit punchy?

00:02:20:22 – 00:02:38:07
Do you know? I mean, he's like it says, coughing so fucking. You get stuck then. Yeah. Oh. Well, Oh, I feel I am like that. Anyway, it doesn't insult me in that way, and I wouldn't mind if it did, because it almost like there's a comedy to this. This is holding up a mirror to me. This is saying you need to do this.

00:02:38:09 – 00:02:58:14
You need to sort yourself out. And it is it is kind of like, good for that because it hold you accountable. You watch hold you fucking accountable, but also you start thinking, fuck you, fuck you, watch. Well, how about you? Yeah, give me a break. Give me a break. Cause you don't know what my day has been like.

00:02:58:17 – 00:03:14:17
And you don't know what stresses I'm going through. You don't know about the house. You don't know about the operation. You don't know about the dog going to the vet and having having to see a specialist and not knowing whether or not the insurance is going to cover the procedures that cost the thousands and thousands of pounds. You don't know about that shit.

00:03:14:19 – 00:03:37:21
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all need is you. Sleep was fair. You think up you step down. So, Rick, the other day, I was falling asleep. Last one a little bit difficult to fall asleep because of all these stresses. Yeah, I can imagine. You know, I did it. I took the watch off. I said, you ain't getting married.

00:03:37:21 – 00:04:00:12
It's not, you know, having it. That's good. Yeah. Took it off. You know, we counted as a pause. Night sleep because I had been asleep in and out for a couple of hours. It turns out that I think it's doing stuff just to Raleigh. You know, I wouldn't mind if it like knowing in good, the good intentions if my Fitbit was a bit not racist to me.

00:04:00:13 – 00:04:20:09
Yeah. You like that? Yeah. To give me that motivation to give me that dog. Give me that. Don't give me that motivation, that drive. I'll fucking show, you know, I'll go out and I walk 20,000 steps, but really, I won't put my calories in that. Well, I will, but less calories. I've just eaten a mini baby though. Like all day.

00:04:20:09 – 00:04:46:20
That's it. Like, what's his name? Christy and I would just get a can of tuna all day when he was both. Yeah. No, it's just it's filled up, genius. When he turned into an anorexic. Yeah, I'll just do that with Mini baby, though. Yeah. You know, so you ever look at you, if you ever look at your Fitbit after you've, after you've been on the job, you've, I once had a night.

00:04:46:22 – 00:05:17:01
Been intimate with, with the wife. Yeah, of course it was. It's a good exercise. It's good at aerobic, area. And the anaerobic. What is it? Anaerobic. Anaerobic exercise. Yeah, yeah. I am only 25 calories. Basically burnt. That's it. The next morning. I have been known to check my heart rate on my Fitbit. And then I see that light at half 12 at night.

00:05:17:03 – 00:05:39:14
Go see yellow, then it goes into red. I'm light. Right. What are you doing? Let's fucking go. Knowing full well what you were doing. No, what I was doing, I didn't think,

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It would see.

00:05:51:06 – 00:06:17:08
The night. Hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music. So I we prayed with our tongues in cheek band as I we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:06:17:10 – 00:06:40:20
Hello and welcome to lads anonymous is episode 80. I'm Ricky. He's for have two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something only you and I. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How are you? How are you feeling? Apart from the. The stresses, all the things, for the dresses.

00:06:40:20 – 00:07:05:06
Yeah. I feel really good this morning. Got up, about 6:30 and, And walked the dog for a bit, so got about 6000 steps in, according to the watch. You up at half six this morning. You went for. I always, always wake up around that. Anyway, my body just wakes me up about half six and G. And you always take the dog for a walk at that time like, no, no, no, not enjoying the winter because it's fucking freezing cold and dark.

00:07:05:06 – 00:07:28:13
But this time of year. Beautiful, right? So it's like the sun's coming up. Yeah, mate. This listen to this. For an ideal dog. Dog walk. Sun was up. No one was round chirping of the birds to my right. Lambs. Oh yes. Lambs. Yeah yeah yeah. Little lambs. Good. Beaten be. Yeah. And frolicking. They're frolicking where they. Yeah.

00:07:28:13 – 00:07:43:10
They're rolling around of each other. Does Frank have a go over and chase him or anything. Not really. No. No he would I mean if he was off his lead and I let him out, he would he would definitely go over. And if they would run, he would chase. Yeah. For sure. When you go a long walks, you keep him on the lead still.

00:07:43:10 – 00:08:04:10
Yeah. Yeah. Oh look, I've told you I bet this is where my big bugbear is people have their dogs off their leads if they don't have any recall which if you, if you can control your dog, take them off the lead. It's up to you if you cannot, if your dog does not come back to you, which is 90%, the dogs won't come back to you immediately if you call them because they don't want to come back to you.

00:08:04:10 – 00:08:27:24
They want to run. They want to see another dog. What is that? Yeah, but well-trained dogs do. They come back immediately. Right. And there's a whole discussion about whether or not a dog that is hyper trained is a happy dog. Some people believe it is that that dogs are who, who react immediately to every, demand is a happy dog.

00:08:28:01 – 00:08:53:05
Other people say it's two straight, and the dog isn't able to be the kind of dog it wants to be, right? So what is that thing now? People. People believe people are not campaigning. I guess I'm in. I'm not in this dog world, you know? Yeah, there's some parts that. No. So some people like a dog that it that stays by your heel and walks by your heel and doesn't leave your heel for fear of being scolded.

00:08:53:07 – 00:09:13:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people believe that isn't a how a dog should be trained to that degree. Like it's like a military trained dog. Right. Well, how I would like to have a dog. Yeah. German Shepherd and I walk and I go up and it would just stop and sit down. Yeah. How many people say the dog is walk along perfectly happy because understands its role in the pack and it's right.

00:09:13:22 – 00:09:34:23
So, but it requires, it requires a lot of work and effort to get a dog to behave that way. But there are some certain breeds that that can do it. But you're talking daily training for probably an hour at a time, and then eventually they'll get by going out the box like, no, you're I spoke to your wife about this and she said she wants pre-trained dog.

00:09:34:23 – 00:09:38:22
And I was like, I don't even know what that is.

00:09:38:24 – 00:09:58:02
I well, I don't want a puppy. I want a pre-trained dog. Yeah, but you might be able to get one. I don't know, but I did Google it. And apparently there are dogs that have been sort of trained for like toilet training than so that you can buy if there is as a first dog, it's not a bad shout, but you're not learning a great deal.

00:09:58:04 – 00:10:22:20
No, I would like to do the training myself. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I would like to build that rapport with said dog. So I said, Franks I franks pretty well trained, I would say. Like he does come back when you call him. Not straight away, but he takes a moment's pause and then he will come back if he's distracted by a deer or something like that, and I don't call him, I'll lose.

00:10:22:20 – 00:10:41:11
It will go. But if I if there is a battle between me and the deer and he can hear me shout, shouting at him to come back if he doesn't go. So in my experience, or I wouldn't trust, I would not trust him at all. And that's the thing is, no one. You should always be under the impression that your dog isn't to be trusted.

00:10:41:13 – 00:11:06:08
Like if your dog is with a baby, just assume it's not to be trusted. But your dog may never have been bitten. Anybody. Just assume that it will. So just be wary of it. That's what you do. There's people that just think that's fine. That's a that's a really good outlook to have. You know, because I know I know this from having, two children that were, I'd like to say petrified of dogs, but is there something that's a step further than they were.

00:11:06:09 – 00:11:38:16
They were very scared. And they and they have been for years and they are, a whole heap better now. And they can be around dogs and, you know, they're fine. That's they want dogs now. But, there's so many people that just walk and dine up their dogs and leads. And Peter is fine. He's just happy. He's just this and it's jumping up at my kids, and my kids have, like, literally climbed up my body, know because they are so scared and they just throw it across roads and they do this and do that and it's that fucking them.

00:11:38:16 – 00:11:55:03
And that's not that's not a dog that's under control. No. So it's there's a couple of issues. A dog can get hit by a car. The dog scaring your kids. Also worse off is your dog. My approach. My dog. My dog might not like your dog. My legs on a lead, the control. Your dog is not on your under control.

00:11:55:05 – 00:12:15:16
If my dog. If your dog gets in my dog space and he decides I don't like this and bites your dog, you're going to blame me because staff are considered to be dangerous dogs. When my dog is under control on the lead, that's what fucks me off. Yeah, you shouldn't have a dangerous dog. Your dog. You have no control over your dog.

00:12:15:16 – 00:12:38:05
Your dog doesn't give a shit about you in this moment. Anyway, if you were angry about it, I don't know, I don't know, I was so alarmed. And I saw bunny rabbits this morning. That's beautiful. Yeah, that is good. I mean, I go when I because I walk my kids to the bus stop every morning 7:30, and I carry on that walk for an hour.

00:12:38:07 – 00:13:01:18
And I walk down the river and canal and it's just as, you know, the sun's rising and you can hear the birds chirping, hear the the water from the river running and just, it's it's my favorite time early in the morning as I'm going for a ball about. It's absolutely beautiful. Today's topic is the internet.

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So it's, you know, we're just going to have a chat about the internet. Really? To the internet? It's my favorite place. It really is my favorite place, actually. I think, like, let's just not just going to get into it. Right on. When I first met you, I thought I was an internet guy. I like the internet.

00:13:25:19 – 00:13:50:24
I went on the internet, I looked at stuff on the internet. And what what are you going to do? What are you getting? No, but you showed me what memes were, and like, viral videos, and I didn't. I saw that shit before, mate. Fucking the woman trade, you know, the grapes and falls off. You know that one lady right here,

00:13:51:01 – 00:13:53:06
Yeah.

00:13:53:08 – 00:14:19:04
Mate, I want to I want to play that. But you going, right? Yeah, all stuff like that I wasn't really aware of, like, meme culture and viral videos and stuff. Like when was Myspace, when was this so that. So. Well, that would have been like the 2000 and 607. Ricky. That's not true, right? Because we met each other on a message board.

00:14:19:04 – 00:14:37:03
You would have seen all this shit. Yeah, yeah, we met each other on a message board. Right? But you go on to a message board and you, you just post stuff on a message board, like we had things that we would laugh at on the message board, but it was the whole culture around these different things which I didn't really get.

00:14:37:05 – 00:14:56:10
And it's buckets are filled with shut your mouth off. I found Great Lady Fools original video I get. I wonder how many people listen to this or remember this just by the sound. Because if you if you know what it is to sound, your mind would do the rest. What kind of grit? These are filled with shameless and gripes.

00:14:56:10 – 00:15:27:09
And the winner this Saturday has some music eating international foods, having wine tours and tastings, vineyard tours, seminars, arts and crafts. It's a lot of fun. A whole day stop. Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow I can't breathe. Ow ow ow ow ow. I think she's actually hurt.

00:15:27:09 – 00:15:53:15
No, I think she is hurt. She took a hard fought, actually hurt. She's harmful. She's actually hurt. The thing is, is she is because she cheats. That's what makes it. Oh, the funny is you go stop some stuff, and he tries to carry on driving. She falls off as, And there and then she goes, stop, stop. It hurts, it hurts.

00:15:53:17 – 00:16:13:22
So there's stuff like that right now I hadn't really seen and that you would show me. And I was like, fuck, I didn't know that that existed. So you were quite, I don't know. I spent more time on the internet than maybe even now. Like, you know, about different places in and Reddit. You caught down with the Reddit crew?

00:16:13:24 – 00:16:35:10
I'm not greedy, you know what I mean? I mean, you are, like, a bit more internet, okay? Aware than me, right? Yeah. That's true. TikTok at worst is he knows the word in the street on TikTok. Yeah, I'd spend a lot of time. Yeah, that's been a long time on TikTok. Right. Okay. Who's used the dark web?

00:16:35:12 – 00:16:57:20
I'll be the thought of like, oh no, I haven't. I've never used it. You can't get until it right it hahahahaha. This is what I'm talking about, that you're more of an internet a guy than, than me. And I love the internet. I mean, fair enough. I love the internet. Yeah. So what it do I tell you right where it comes from?

00:16:57:22 – 00:17:15:00
Well, gone, because I kind of found out about it. So I used to go to a youth media project called exposure, which I then worked for. Right. Yeah. And they had the internet and they had computers. And I was always interested in computers and stuff that you're doing and it at home at that point. So not at that point.

00:17:15:00 – 00:17:41:23
There was this was you didn't have the internet. So we but then there were internet clubs. So I used to go to an internet club. Right. So it was cool. Tottenham Hale Technology Club, something like that. That's pretty geeky, right? Fucking hell. Maybe I need a guess to go there so I don't even. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Also, I can I say yes, I yeah, gun.

00:17:42:00 – 00:17:45:07
My first and last.

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Woman of color.

00:17:48:10 – 00:18:11:22
Wow. Really? What is that? Is that worth saying? It's not racist. It's just mentioned that, is it? No, no, not at all. No no no no no no no I mean like in the first and last like their flavor. No. Yeah. Did DJ yeah. No I don't discriminate in that way. Oh we were supposed to do our favorite races in terms of fancy.

00:18:11:24 – 00:18:30:14
My favorite. Like is it racist to not fancy a certain race? But we do that another time. But then another time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So. So back then, no one had the internet, right? It wasn't a common thing in the home. So would have these, this place where we had go. So exposure. So it was a youth media charity, right.

00:18:30:14 – 00:18:50:23
So we used to work with kids who were interested in a career in the media, and we'd work with kids who struggled at school. So this was a different environment for them to learning. And, so the internet was important. It's important to know what it wasn't and what advantages there were going to be there. So what what we went was this room full of computers that were connected to the internet.

00:18:51:00 – 00:19:11:04
They weren't. Yeah, it weren't at home. It was just in these internet. It was like an internet club. But also they had these you had internet cafes then because the internet wasn't a home. May I remember like in Crouch End when I lived in Crouch and I didn't have a printer and I'd regularly be in the internet cafe opposite the Hope and anchor.

00:19:11:04 – 00:19:31:11
That's what I had. It's fucking weird thinking about that. I'm in a like, cafe where there's loads of computers. I normally it's it's just like loads of people that look like me just. They're people of color. Just. They're. We're all on the internet. I don't know why we're all there. There's a whole array of colors chatting to relatives.

00:19:31:15 – 00:19:56:00
We're all on the inside. They were all there. Yeah, I know, it's fucking weird, man, that I'd have to go to a place to log on to check my Hotmail account. Yeah, I'm looking wild, man. So I mate, that's another thing we have to talk about. You and your fucking accounts that I'm just coming around to your place to check my accounts on the internet.

00:19:56:01 – 00:20:16:15
I'm coming around the earth to use the internet, and you can run. Your dad set out to use his. So you see. So what people won't know, right? Is there was a family computer back then, right? Yeah. So I was lucky enough because I was so interested in computers. Right. And I was interested in.

00:20:16:17 – 00:20:32:24
I used to write, so I used to write for like I said, this exposed that. So exposure was a massive part of my life back then. So they used to publish a magazine. Nice to write monthly for this magazine every month and write various different things. And and I wanted a career in journalism and communication of some sort.

00:20:33:01 – 00:20:54:00
So I would write about things, and my dad and my mum and my granddad got together and they knew that I needed a computer even back then. So they bought me a Packard Bell computer. I was like, oh, my mind was blown when when it was the best Christmas present I ever had. Like when my dad hid it in my house and they took me upstairs to the top bedroom of mine.

00:20:54:00 – 00:21:22:23
And you remember my my dad's, my house. They were not narrow and tall houses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was a computer on the bed up there and I was Oh my God. Like, I was, I think I cried, I was like, so yeah. So I had a computer in my room, so, but at 16 and 17, which would have been rare then, and shortly after I connected to the internet, I had exactly the same thing where my mum had bought me.

00:21:22:23 – 00:21:55:11
I maybe it's a Hewlett Packard. I can't quite remember what computer it was. Big tower, even fucking bigger monitor. And, we, I had the computer in my room and I was like, it was like, new as well. So I knew it was expensive and it was mine. Unreal. I remember I opened in the fresh out the box, pulling back the, you know, the big blocks of polystyrene and see that beautiful big tower and the one, and then the, the, shimmering silver disk.

00:21:55:11 – 00:22:25:17
What was it in 94 or something? My son is an encyclopedia on. Yeah. It's incredible. It was incredible. Absolutely loved it. And, we so the computer was upstairs. And to connect to the internet, you would have to have that running Ethernet line from your computer, to the back of it to the, phone line, which was downstairs.

00:22:25:17 – 00:22:51:23
So there's always this fucking cable going up the stairs. Yeah. And back in the day, because there was only you have one landline to a house, you could even use it for your landline phone or for the internet. So you couldn't if your mum was on the phone to your aunt, you couldn't then use the internet. Or if you were on the internet, you'd have to get off the internet for your family to call you whatever.

00:22:52:00 – 00:23:13:14
And you couldn't be on the internet too long because you might be missing calls. So there is always this weird dynamic of, I wanted to be on the internet. I wanted to see what's fucking going on. If there's been any updates on In car. But back in the day, there was the the boom of downloading files, weren't there?

00:23:13:20 – 00:23:34:22
When I want files, there was images. So I mean, you mean like when I LimeWire and stuff like that LimeWire there's one came later Theresa for me it came so yeah. Yeah yeah all of that that came. Yeah when I got the chair. Yeah. When I got the internet that wasn't common. That stuff I was like earlier. Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

00:23:34:22 – 00:23:51:15
That was, that was a little, a little bit late. So I, I was aware that I'd have to ring me out my dad and go got on the internet. Got on the internet what you did on the internet. Homework. I wasn't, I was downloading as many pictures of tits as I could. Yeah that's right, that's right. Yeah.

00:23:51:19 – 00:24:31:23
So I my, my very first, rendezvous with the pornography on the internet. I've never actually told this story ever on an any podcast, because it's really hard to kind of pick the right moment. Well, I have I don't even know about this podcast. No. Exactly. So go on. And so when you, downloading stuff. Right, you would especially back in the day where it was either LimeWire or whatever it was the file wouldn't download, as in it would go from the start to the finish, like the timeline would start to finish.

00:24:32:04 – 00:25:00:12
It would do it in in different stages, in different. It was like non non-linear, basically any way you wanted. And I knew that obviously I could, I could sell it for porn, but it would take ages like hours to download these video for hours, fucking hours, even days almost. And I could never find a video that was at a right length because it was always like full porn.

00:25:00:12 – 00:25:20:18
Didn't want full porn, just wanted a little bit of porn. And because I knew my mum would tweak like sorry, tweak as to be like, what's fucking going on there? And obviously you're downloading porn and you're in, you know, my, my sisters and my mum said, I don't want anyone to know, but you see the point? You need it.

00:25:20:19 – 00:25:42:05
Yeah, you need it. You gotta go for it. You know you've got a fortune five. It's a brave show. You go into LimeWire and you just type in porn and whatever the first title comes out at. Yeah. And it was like, I don't know, 80 hot steaming clips of. And I didn't know what it was, just double click and then click out of something.

00:25:42:11 – 00:26:01:09
So I knew. And then when I looked at LimeWire, I could see the beginning of the title, 80 clips of hot steamy, and it was starting to download. I was like, fucking is happening, it's happening. So then and then it came up and it was like 14 hours to go and I'm gonna fuck you now. I'm on 14 hours.

00:26:01:10 – 00:26:21:12
This three minute clip. What am I gonna do? So I let it run, I let it run. And I come up to nighttime and I still wanted it. So I just switched the monitor off. And my mum came in my room at night. Oh, good night, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Good night. She's. The computer's still on. No, I can hear it.

00:26:21:14 – 00:26:37:03
Yeah. No, no, no, it is a let me, let me just. And she was like the finger was around the monitor button. She was going to press it and it was going to be the timeline of me downloading this porn as fuck, man. What am I going to do? It's doing an update. What? It's doing an update.

00:26:37:03 – 00:26:54:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got leave on an update, so we'll get the internet plugged in as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I left it, left it plugged in. So cool. You had. No it's. Yeah. And I was going to call at night. No one's going to call. No one's going to call. It's fine. And they made me and I was like it was a granny with an emergency passed away during the night.

00:26:54:20 – 00:27:14:22
My phone is more, you know, more important. Wake up in the morning, press the monitor button alerts. And I said, file complete. And I was like, oh my God, I can't wait to fucking get stuck into that. I don't even know what it is. And I have to wait until I got home from school. And then mum's out, sisters out.

00:27:14:24 – 00:27:33:05
I clicked on it and it was like 80 clips of hot and steamy cum shots and I was like, right, okay, I can get what I can get on with that. My, it's just anything, anything that's happening. I'm lucky it wasn't like gay porn because it would have been wasted. I probably still would have had a guy, you know, anything.

00:27:33:05 – 00:28:00:03
Just, I said, like, 16 year old boy. But then I remember playing it, and it was really fast. I know, I mean, really fast clips. Just of the money shot. That was it. No build up, money shots. That was it. And the backing track was chemical. Probably just out of control, out of control. Defeated it it it it it it it it it it did it did it right.

00:28:00:09 – 00:28:24:03
And how it was done. Right. All I can remember is, yeah, I just all these poor ladies getting splattered. And I was like, fuck, you know, this is wild, man. I was like, as a 16 year old and I can only describe it is do you remember in the film Inglorious Bastards? Yeah. And there is a scene where they're in the cinema and they're celebrating this.

00:28:24:03 – 00:28:50:09
I think it's a German sniper, and they're showing this film of how many people was killed. And it goes into this kind of slapstick moment where, he's shooting so many people. It's like synchronized swimmers, but they're synchronized dying and they're all falling out of balconies, and they're all kind of going together. Now, this porn video was just like women just coming out of water and just splattered and then just walking down the road getting splattered.

00:28:50:09 – 00:29:11:10
And I was just like, it's like it was like almost. It was like she strobe light of Jesus. And I was like, this, that. So that was my first class for, I don't know, any video porn. Imagine if you was epileptic. Oh, me. And that's what got you. Yeah, I still got it. And then someone come into the room and that's just plain.

00:29:11:10 – 00:29:25:05
And then got my mum. They got my sister. Everyone just I mean epileptic fits because this video was in the background. Had a control do do do do do do do do do do do do.

00:29:25:07 – 00:29:50:15
Is about fucking that's been and that's been deep within me for years. I as date with women just wanted to I just didn't know where to is where I look at it. And every time I hear that always comes in my place. Always makes me smile, gives me a little grin. Can I, someone might have just heard I was sort of browsing as you were talking there, and,

00:29:50:20 – 00:30:09:24
Yeah, there's a space. There's a website called space. Hey. Which is like a nostalgic look back at my space. And I clicked on one of the profiles, an the example of the profile, and I forgot that you would have music playing on your Myspace, didn't you? You'd have, like, a landing page music, which I love because you're like, I like this.

00:30:10:01 – 00:30:30:17
You would have a basis, right? And I would choose something like, this is for me, this is important because this is this says something about me. Somebody to choose. Yeah. For sure. Do you remember my Myspace URL? You may remember it as reason you'll remember it once I've said it so quite a lot. Be it was it Bambaataa number?

00:30:30:19 – 00:30:41:23
You know, it was just Bambaataa upon.

00:30:42:00 – 00:31:08:16
It was just puff puff. But Bombardier anyway, it was my fantasy league team. Yeah, it was, it was, It's amazing. Yeah, it was just MySpace.com forward slash bamba. So I remember, like, the time when you checked into Bird's Eye, you got Myspace. I was like, yeah. What's your early? Oh, so it's myspace.com/bamba. Well, sort of Bamba.

00:31:08:19 – 00:31:31:04
What's yours MySpace.com folks are Sarah H. That's my name. So I had one yet again. So again, I know you've got some Myspace story because I've got something. I can tell you something, though. No, you ain't gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So my story that my something only I know for this is, So that that's something you had your own.

00:31:31:04 – 00:31:57:08
Something I know, I know didn't knock the thing, but no, no fucking no. So I've got one. Well, it's not someone else knows this. So before I met my girlfriend, I had a computer, and I used that, I had, I would download pictures, an MPEG, so it wasn't a three minute video. I was like, I didn't even know they existed, right?

00:31:57:09 – 00:32:18:17
To be honest. Yeah. So I had three sessions of the same sex scene over playing over and over and over again. And I did not want out to. That goes because you have sex with it. So. So yeah. Anyway, I set them in a folder or on, on a floppy disk and put it in my drawer. Anyway, I got a girlfriend and forgot about that floppy release pretty much.

00:32:18:19 – 00:32:44:12
Anyway, Sue those who were at work or something, and she'd gone down my drawers and obviously found the floppy disk and put it in to see what was on it, and found this MPEG full of pictures of, tits and yeah, an orgy and other stuff. I can't remember what was under the. She went, she went crazy. She's pretty.

00:32:44:12 – 00:33:11:00
She left me. Wouldn't speak to me. Oh my God. Yeah. This is my ex-girlfriend. This is the one uni. What? Really? Yeah. So we bear in mind we were like 17, 18 then, and she hadn't she come from a house where pornography wasn't prevalent? Pornography wasn't prevalent in my house. He objects over the kitchen drawer to get a knife and fork it out that you visit.

00:33:11:02 – 00:33:37:18
I wonder where that was go? No, but my, My old man, I did find my old man's stash. And for the internet, which was like the greatest day. Holy grail. Yeah. So what? Seeing things. I'd seen things, where she had never. And so she. She left me and all that. She just thought it was crazy, and I was kind of blamed it on a brother.

00:33:37:20 – 00:33:55:08
That's nice. It will draw some my. Oh, as I got older, I had my own stash and my little brother, I told my little brother where it was, and then my mum found it. And then he blamed me immediately.

00:33:55:10 – 00:33:59:03
He blamed me immediately.

00:33:59:05 – 00:34:19:15
Gary's a straight away, Gary straight away. Right. Good. Yeah. Good. So yeah, that was my one I've never spoken about. I don't know that it's embarrassing, but she just she was like, no, like. And this is what the internet has done is it's brought porn to everybody. Yeah. In a, in a significant way. Like when we were growing up, it was a crusade, a pilgrimage to.

00:34:19:16 – 00:34:36:17
It's almost like, you know, they moved in the north London derby to Hong Kong. Yeah, yeah, that we had to work for porn back then if we wanted to see a North London derby. Yeah. It's like someone in Hong Kong traveling to the UK to watch Bears Mercy's arsenal. Yeah, yeah. You got to do the graph. Find it with find.

00:34:36:18 – 00:34:47:02
It was the only way had the internet. And it's like everywhere. Like weirdly I tried to think the things my son and daughter have seen already.

00:34:47:04 – 00:35:21:05
Yeah. Oh it's yeah that is you got, you've got parental locks of you know, not you're crazy Rick. I mean, the thing is, I know I mean, it is it's part of it is crazy, but part of it is, self-discovery and learning. Yeah. They're not like they won't find a way around it anyway. No, no. And I don't want them to be in a situation where they are frightened because they don't know of the human body or they don't know of a certain thing.

00:35:21:11 – 00:35:49:06
I remember, I, I mean, this is taking a bit of a left out now, but I remember as a, you know, 13, 14 year old boy and being terrified of fingering someone because I knew, like, in my mind, you know, vagina virgin. Oh Virgin got vagina. Hell yeah. And you got bombed out. Yeah. And I was there in the park and someone said, no, no, no, no, this free house.

00:35:49:08 – 00:36:06:22
So what? Yeah, yeah. This is one way they way out of this. The whole for babies and sex and then this bomb. How this free house. And in my mind, I was, like, in turmoil. How do I know which one I'm going in? Like, well, what do I do? How do I know when I'm going down there? Like which, where, which how will it look?

00:36:06:22 – 00:36:34:10
Anything like that? So I'm kind of glad that there is this, access to stuff. And I don't think though, like, be going and searching out hardcore pornography or anything like that, but I think that there's probably enough out there that they know anatomy, they know what things look like and stuff like that they've seen, especially your older daughter has seen all kinds.

00:36:34:12 – 00:36:52:08
They're not talking about at school. Of course they are. Yeah. I mean, I do walk around the house naked as well, often just walk in. About what? In what way? Like, this is my house. I'll do what I want. Kind of. I treat it well. I'm like my bedroom has the en suite and everyone seems to want to sit in that.

00:36:52:10 – 00:37:10:12
And the. Oh, I see, so you're in your room and they rub it on in my room and you're. You're in my room. Yeah, but with that, I need to know. I'm. I'd be surprised if your oldest daughter doesn't know what Pornhub is. Oh, she does. She will do so if she knows what I will. All kinds of mental shits on there.

00:37:10:14 – 00:37:32:18
I think what we need to do is we need to get back on track of some internet chat. Because I really don't want to talk about this with knowing my daughter knows what Pornhub is and going into what she's saying and what she hasn't seen. And it's just I think she's 13. And I remember at 13 what I was doing.

00:37:32:20 – 00:37:41:22
So yeah, I was rubbing this little genie lamp down here.

00:37:41:24 – 00:37:59:19
But just all right to get back on track. The, I've just found my actual computer. Which of which? I first access the internet on eBay. I've just sent you a picture. It's my exact computer I had, which is very interesting for people at home, but that's where, you know, I used to access the internet on that computer.

00:37:59:19 – 00:38:23:05
Right? So you loved it. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, well, I wonder if there's people out there that listen to this part that have no idea of, like, a tower PC, like my kids. I know, you know, with no one. No. Probably no. They will have like, iPads at school and stuff like that. Yeah.

00:38:23:10 – 00:38:43:21
It's just like, it's completely. So you get like a floppy disk, VHS type, like my kids. I don't think they they would have seen any of that stuff. It's fun. It's fun to show it. I sometimes show the kids stuff from my youth and go, do you know what that is? And they're like, no, like a pager. No idea.

00:38:43:24 – 00:39:04:02
I don't know what that is. Yeah, I've seen a video where, a dad gets out a, you know, the old hand, handheld telephones. We put your finger in and you spin the dial. Yeah. And they said, I want you to call this number. And he gave them the number, thereby looking. They're like a caveman. Okay. I have no idea how this thing works.

00:39:04:04 – 00:39:27:15
And mad. Absolutely, man. So funny. Then I remembered something, right? I don't know if you. So I talking about stuff that is the dark web, right? I love it, I like that dog. Got the dark web now. My first kind of.

00:39:27:17 – 00:39:56:19
You know, experience. If something like the dark web. Do you remember there was a thing called, The Jolly Rogers Cookbook? Now, the Jolly Rogers Cookbook. It was a floppy disk. It was like a banned cookbook that told you all the worst stuff in the world. So how to make bombs, how to hotwire a car, how to make fertilizer bombs, how to do x, y, z, all the crazy shit.

00:39:56:19 – 00:40:16:17
Right? So it was banned everywhere, obviously. And I got a copy on floppy disk from someone, and I was like, this is fucking quality. And I was going for all these different things. On how to I mean, obviously I'm going to make a bomb, but just trying to find something that I could do so that I could be naughty.

00:40:16:19 – 00:40:44:03
And I learned how to from this jolly Roger cook. I learned how to hotwire a car. And I remember I was 14 and I went out with my mates walking down this road, and we found a like it was like an abandoned van. And I had a print out of the pages of this Jolly Rogers cookbook on how to hotwire a car and got the the wires, the guts out from the bottom, the steering wheel.

00:40:44:04 – 00:41:09:21
Yeah, I did it were like the least things work. They the jolly Roger. Well, I mean, I cut the wires, told me to what to do. And you supposed to. Whose car was this? Really? Just some random person's van that was in the actually in their driveway. Who had broken into three? Oh, yeah, I know, and I know that's for a.

00:41:09:23 – 00:41:35:13
Yeah, I know I never I know, I know I'm this is a bit of a revealing one today. Who did you do this with? I can't even remember the latter's waves. So you broke into some someone's van to hotwire it and then do what? Yeah, I don't know, I could drive. I had no idea how to drive, but I had this cookbook which told me to get these wires from underneath the steer near your house.

00:41:35:13 – 00:41:56:07
Rake? A couple of steaks over. So this is it. Covered all bases. Covered all bases. And then. Right. I had these wires and my mates were in the back and just tapping these wires, trying to get them to spark so I could start it up. Then all of a sudden, from out of nowhere, a big tap on the window, and I was like, what the fuck is that?

00:41:56:07 – 00:42:17:13
I looked at my right as a flashlight. I opened the door. It was two police officers. Oh my God, in a van. Oh yeah. Oh my God. Rick, have you never mentioned this? I don't know, I think I, I've mentioned this before. You know, I would have had I, I remember 100% remembered how have we known each other 20 years.

00:42:17:13 – 00:42:39:18
And you never told me the story where you tried to hit in the middle of the. When was it? What time? Yeah, it was no, it was like, I'm not going to come up with the idea of breaking and entering into a vehicle, pulling out the wires, hot wire in it, meanwhile having no idea what to how to drive, and then a police officer find and you do it.

00:42:39:18 – 00:42:57:10
No, you haven't told me about this. No, I sorry, mate. Yeah, I am I did, I did, I got, got pulled out. They took our name to car addresses and all of that. Oh the shit you did as a teenager. Oh, you probably think this is a problem child. This is a child is going to grow up in amounts of nothing.

00:42:57:12 – 00:43:17:07
I just thought that's what young boys did the night, okay. Yeah. I mean, those kids in my school took their dad's car and drove around in it. Yeah, maybe not hot wiring cars, breaking someone's fucking work van and then try and wire it to drive away. No, no, I mean, I came home scared of the repercussions. He was.

00:43:17:09 – 00:43:42:19
I was with my mates. We were just not proper brazen. But we didn't. But wouldn't your mum absolutely rip you a new one at home? She would, but did it. I was scared of it. Of the idea of no, no, no, no, no. It took to send my mum, my sister and I up and she nearly always had gone off two jobs or worked long shifts.

00:43:42:21 – 00:44:09:06
So that kind of and where I lived, it was all the street that I lived down. It was all, single parents, basically single mums raising children, no dads. And we would drive around in packs of young boys, and just get up to mischief. Really? So we didn't. Yeah. We didn't really fucking care. It was just like young.

00:44:09:06 – 00:44:27:10
No, no, but most people would do like the reasons why most kids don't break into vans and try and hotwire. It is because I would have been scared. My dad would have struck me up, literally. But if your mum's working and she's not there, then that, you're not that real. It's not really there, is it? No, it wasn't there.

00:44:27:10 – 00:44:52:11
That fear. That fear wasn't there. No. Yeah. But in the end, the police officers, because they said it's so weird because the police officer said there was no real damage, that, I could go, I was, I was fine. God, really, I know, so so we just we just got to walk. We carried on walking down the line, got around the corner, and then we all ran or shit ourselves.

00:44:52:11 – 00:45:09:06
But nothing, actually, nothing really happened to us, which is is fucking mental. What did you do? You download the easement, you downloaded it and printed it off a lot that you had to do it yourself. Print out. Yeah I know I had prop had a print out. So it was like, you know, being caught red handed. What are you doing?

00:45:09:06 – 00:45:32:21
Nothing. We have a truck. Sounds hot. Where I car that's like amazing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly what I've. I've got other evidence. Fucking mental. What it just before like, like so the dark web. Yeah. Right. The stuff that you can find on the dark web just had a little it all. Look, stolen credit cards and identity information.

00:45:32:22 – 00:46:05:06
Yeah, fake passports and ID. You never had any need for that passport, right? I'll tell you what I bought from it. Hacking services, like, dos attacks, counterfeit money. I've never had any anything for that. Drugs and prescription medicines. If you, If I'd done anything like that. Yeah. Weapons and explosives. Night. When I first read this, I thought it was organic traffic, and that's that.

00:46:05:12 – 00:46:32:13
So people pay people online to get more traffic to their website. It's like, that's fucking scary. No organ trafficking, I misread it, that's. That's I see is that. Yeah, I think that. Yeah. Well, if you need a living liver, it ain't bad where you live. Where does it come from? Hitmen for hire, human traffic and smuggling, Do you know what this is?

00:46:32:17 – 00:46:57:21
Read rooms? No, read rooms are live streamed torture sessions. Yeah. I mean, that is, I know that. So, so so there's three different types of. Well, I'm not. So I've used the dark web, and I've never come across any of that. Right. It's only people are looking for that stuff. Like anything. They'll find it. Yeah. So there's three different aspects of the internet.

00:46:57:21 – 00:47:28:02
There's the, there's the, the internet we use every day, which is like Google and Wikipedia and YouTube and the general stuff. And then there's like the deep web, which is like, like records and government resources and reports and documents and, and, and the information that we need to make the, the internet interesting. Right? That's what exists in the deep web.

00:47:28:02 – 00:47:50:14
And some of it will never be seen again, some of it seen every day, but it exists there so that you can recall anything at any time. That's what's amazing about the internet. Yeah. If you would have told our predecessors that there would be a device where you could ask a question about anything that your mind could possibly conceive, and it will give you an answer that's like, you create God.

00:47:50:16 – 00:48:08:18
Yeah. That is actually it's incredible. Like it's saying it's inside and we take it for granted now, like it's the greatest invention man has ever made. Well, I mean, we're we just a minute ago which and we feel in part of it back then and for us now, look at us. Who ever thought about it? We thought it was like how?

00:48:08:18 – 00:48:14:02
It's like a radio on a little disk that was like.

00:48:14:04 – 00:48:38:22
And then. And then you've got the dark web which exists under it, all of this, which is, access material, a space. If you want to do something, you can not get caught. Then you use the dark web. So you use a browser that is encrypted so that your personal information, your location, your IP address cannot be accessed by the police or any on your or your ISP.

00:48:38:24 – 00:49:05:16
And then once you have that which isn't a case of you going on Google and said, can I get access to the dark web? That's not how it works. It you have to download a browser that's specifically designed to access it and hide your IP address and encrypt it, or the Tor browser. Things might have changed, but, but but when I did it, that's what they were just, just quickly, if you didn't know how to get a, a, you know, some kind of internet protection, could you recommend a brand or anything?

00:49:05:16 – 00:49:25:02
Anywhere where to get, yeah. I mean, if you want to browse the the dark web, you should that you could access NordVPN forward, slash the fighting site, sign up. Good. Now you want to get paid for this, right, Derek? No no, no. Good night. And I mean yeah if anyone one let us know if you sign up to NordVPN.

00:49:25:02 – 00:49:43:11
If one person does I'll give Rick a payment anyway. Nordvpn.com forwards. That's fine. If you're going on the dark web, you need a VPN to protect you from some of the evil stuff. There's no protection on the dark web you open. Well there is. You still got your file. You've got your you got your firewall, you've got your your VPN.

00:49:43:11 – 00:50:03:02
You've got things like malware by it, things that track that sort of stuff and protect your computer. But you're you're open yourself up to different challenges. Anyway, that was it's quite a faff to do it and drug dealing as well as ever. Prostitution, naughty things and porn. Sex. We'll find a way of making things easier to get to you.

00:50:03:04 – 00:50:37:23
So the dark web essentially became redundant sexually. So if you're buying things like drugs, weed, whatever you want. Yeah. Pills, cocaine, the, the, the being during lockdown, it exploded in being able to access this stuff and buy this stuff through on the web and through the postal system. Get sent to your house. They moved over to things like telegram, which are messaging, which is which is like WhatsApp, but it's encrypted so the police can't see it.

00:50:38:04 – 00:51:09:08
Things have changed and laws have changed, and it's not as secure as it used to be. But back then it was fine. So instead of browsing the dark web and, you know, potentially getting into areas that you don't want to get into, some of the horrendous stuff that you've said and definitely exists, by the way. Well, you know, torture rooms, fucking all the worst shit you can imagine is on the dark web, that you could safely go on telegram and you could buy whatever you wanted and have it since your house.

00:51:09:08 – 00:51:12:19
And I did a lot.

00:51:12:21 – 00:51:40:07
It was great, man. I tell you the best. Yeah. And it's not great. And I wouldn't sort of recommend anyone ever taking drugs and, like, it sounds like nearly a hundred day sober now, so. But I wouldn't recommend anybody doing this. But but there was an incredible novelty to just going on telegram, sending them some bitcoin, putting in your address, and then waiting for the postman to deliver that gear was yeah, I don't think I remember.

00:51:40:12 – 00:52:13:10
I'll recapture that buzz ever again. No early lockdown was operating. Yeah. During lockdown it was a very buzzy period for, for everyone. Everyone. Yeah. And what you could order and the different things you could order and it would literally get delivered to your house was fucking incredible. I was always a bit liar bits about it. I was always like, like people saying pills, and you don't want to do it because you might be lay a bit.

00:52:13:10 – 00:52:33:02
So I was always a bit sketchy about it, but I very much enjoyed everybody's, I you always been a bit concerned you that. Yeah. You worried about please, please come gonna get you know, I don't know. I don't know what it was. Actually, let me tell you something that didn't happen to me. And this isn't didn't happen to my friend diva, right?

00:52:33:04 – 00:52:58:00
I ordered something I didn't know that came by accident that he was interested in. So I didn't want it. And I said, do you want this? And he said, yes. And so I sent it to him and it didn't arrive. And he was like a paranoid person anyway. But he was like, it's not arrived. Days pass. Still not arrived, still not arrived.

00:52:58:02 – 00:53:16:23
A week passed, still not arrived. Oh no. Two weeks and was like, it's been intercepted. Forget about it. And he's like, well please turn up. No, I saw it beforehand, but that's not much I can do. If they do say you're right. Yeah. Kind of. You going to prison. But anyway. But three weeks later it turned up.

00:53:17:00 – 00:53:45:11
Ripped open, package in, ripped open with an apology note from the Royal Mail to saying it was checked for drugs, but, we couldn't find. We tested it and we couldn't find any drugs. That was drugs. But there was it was drugs in there. That was drugs, right? Oh, my God, not the drugs they were looking for. Right, right.

00:53:45:11 – 00:54:02:24
I say, I say testing for that type of drug. And he got it. I'm sure he used it by now. It was it was quite a niche thing. It was quite a niche thing. Amazing. I am going to read out this. To finish this off, I'm going to read out this email that we got a sense I think we should do another episode about the internet.

00:54:02:24 – 00:54:28:14
There's tons and tons and tons I haven't spoken about. There so much stuff that I've got written down there that I've just yeah, will definitely do it will definitely do a part two. But I have to read this email out and I'm going to go into it because it's a bit of a hefty one this beautiful. In the pods last episode, you mentioned the possibility of an episode about the internet and the question for people out there being, what's the most mental thing I've ever done on the internet?

00:54:28:19 – 00:54:57:11
And I think next week's topic, however, I have the perfect story to share. And I've got excited because I've never had any stories to share in anything like that. Feel free to use if this ever makes the pod. Let me preface this by saying I'm from Iceland, right? So fucking mate is from Iceland to begin with. G explaining possibly some cultural differences or something you may find weird.

00:54:57:16 – 00:55:32:14
All currencies are converted to US dollars to be easier to understand, and our rough estimates based on memory and googling of prices. Back then, the most mental thing I've done on the internet. Back in 2011, I was in eighth grade and dreamed of owning an iPod touch. I walked from house to house, ringing their doorbell, asking people if they could donate empty bottles and cans that they, that they could take to recycle, to receive a few cents for each bottle or can be returned.

00:55:32:16 – 00:56:04:00
I quickly learned if I lied, I was collecting them for the Red cross. People were more people were more likely to donate if I told them I was saving up. Sorry if I told them I was doing it for charity, they'd be more willing to give me the money rather than telling them I wanted an iPod. Anyways, after a few months of going every week or so around the neighborhood, I'd saved up about $300 of the 500 I needed to buy the iPod.

00:56:04:02 – 00:56:28:09
One day. My classmate, who was not a bright lad, oh, had learned about the darknet marketplaces. His brother was a well known drug dealer in the neighborhood. The two of them thought this would be a gold mine. The issue was that they did not know how to access the dark web or buy Bitcoin. So he came to me for help as I knew I as he knew I was active on hacker forums back then.

00:56:28:11 – 00:57:02:15
That is. That is when I had the brilliant idea of ordering things off the dark web for him for 100% markup, a dealer or a remember if there was, if this is before the time of cryptocurrency exchanges, if I was too young to sign up to them. Whatever the reason was, I took about $100 of my hard earned recycling cash, walked to my local post office and sent it off via Western Union to a random Russian bloke that had been in contact that I'd been in contact with on the hacker forum.

00:57:02:17 – 00:57:31:03
Magically, he held up his part of the deal and sent me the bitcoin. After receiving the bitcoin, I ordered the MDMA my idiotic classmate wanted and had it sent to a fake name and address we knew was an empty apartment so he could just check the postbox regularly. The package never arrived. My classmate was convinced it never arrived because the name of the package was fake.

00:57:31:05 – 00:57:57:04
He wanted to try again, but this time sent it to his apartment in his name. I said, no way, this is a scam. I've already lost $100 and I'm saving up for an iPod touch. That's when he offered me his brand new iPod. If I'd spent all my $300 on another order of darknet MDMA. So that's what I did again.

00:57:57:06 – 00:58:23:13
Bitcoin bought through this random Russian bloke. I know where he was placed on the darknet, this time sent to my classmate's house in his name. He gave me his iPod and I'd finally done it. I should my way up from zero to the iPod I wanted so badly. I was immensely proud of myself. A few days later, we're sitting in math class where my classmate gets told he has to go see the school principal.

00:58:23:15 – 00:58:47:04
Nothing unusual is always getting sent there anyway. Maybe half an hour later my teacher tells me I have to go to the school principal as well. I did not understand what why and was quite confused. I still hadn't connected the dots. As I walk to the principal's office, I'm greeted by two police officers. I nearly pissed myself. I was so scared.

00:58:47:06 – 00:59:11:19
Of course, the police had intercepted the package. My classmate ratted me out immediately and even told them that he'd stolen the iPod that was now mine. The police took my iPod and drove me to the station where my mother was waiting for me. The police had called her and she handed my laptop over to them, which is in the shade as well as my new iPods.

00:59:11:21 – 00:59:37:15
In the end, I'm quite happy with how all this went down. I really did learn a valuable life lesson here at 14. The following Christmas I got an iPod touch. Having spent the previous months without any technology apart from my old Nokia button phone, I learned that a life of crime is not worth it. As for my classmate, I see from his sociology that he seems to be involved in some strip club business in Albania nowadays.

00:59:37:17 – 01:00:04:12
Yes, some people never learn mate. I mean that story 14 they have that money sent to Russian people to give you bitcoin and to buy MDMA. But but there is the most interesting part of that story is what you can do to get what you need. So in this instance, he needed an iPod touch and he found the way to.

01:00:04:14 – 01:00:24:10
So he said hustle up to a point where he got what you wanted. All right. You don't supply drugs in order to, you know, because it's likely you're going to end up arrested and in jail. But the bottle top stuff and the cans and the donating and all 14, you're going to be a little bit entrepreneur. Me what we say now.

01:00:24:10 – 01:00:45:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good for him in a way. But don't, you know, just buy drugs off the internet to do that unless you're sort of 40 not. And you can find random mates out. Yeah, yeah. And there's, there's a global pandemic. There's nothing else to do. Exactly, exactly. So you know, take all of that with a, with a pinch us.

01:00:45:01 – 01:01:08:24
So we're not going to do dilemmas this week. We're only going to go straight into something only you know. And the name of that is called am I a Bad friend. Now the topic for next week is what's the top item on your bucket list before you die? Is there a country you're desperate to visit and why? Specific mountain range you have to see the sunrise over.

01:01:09:01 – 01:01:34:22
Maybe cage dive with great white sharks, sky trying ayahuasca, going to Peru and meeting the shamans. So what is your bucket list? The things that you want to do. Now, I want you to tell us. I want to try heroin. You know what? I was going to put that in the list because I wanted to do that. Well, just just when I'm older, when I'm not really at the end.

01:01:34:22 – 01:01:59:20
Yeah. It's just a little. No, no, I'm just. I'm with you financially now. Well, no. Not now, not to secure. Right. Yeah. Okay. No, no, I'm not saying now. I'm saying when now I'm not saying now. I'm saying when I'm, when the mortgage is paid and I'm, I don't have to worry because at the end you're like, well, I'm a little bit concerned about, you know, death and not existing anymore.

01:01:59:22 – 01:02:06:03
I want to be like chilled. I'm like, right now get the needle right, right.

01:02:06:05 – 01:02:26:07
Man. You right? It was okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm up for that. I'm up for the part about it. After it was the past. I want to do it. What? I think it's going to be that good. It's amazing. And we all go. It's all a big taboo. It's all of it. It's. It's all. What is it? What you say is I, it's to it's right.

01:02:26:10 – 01:02:59:01
Yeah. Okay. Gatekeepers. Great. I know people have done it and they're right. There you go. Yeah they go. What, what injects or it's my case. No smokies. Right. Okay. Yeah. I'd like to know. What do you mean? You didn't say. I'll introduce you to me. Right. Okay. That that that done. So if you've got a bucket list, story or if you want to submit something that's a non pot at gmail.com, we'd love to hear from you.

01:02:59:06 – 01:03:09:04
And now we're going to jump into something only, you know, something. You know.

01:03:09:06 – 01:03:33:12
When I was 18 and at sixth form, I had a crush on this girl and knew one of my mates also had a crush. So I decided to do nothing, as I didn't want to ruin our friendship until I had this party and invited her to it. Long story short, she only lived around the corner and when everyone left, we both ended up getting tipsy and I lost my virginity to her.

01:03:33:14 – 01:03:58:11
The one that I told one of my friends about the night and us sleeping together. And he ended up telling me that the other friend who had a crush on her shatter and lost her virginity to her last week. Well before here. I know before I did that night, but I did that before I did and that they were secretly boyfriend and girlfriend.

01:03:58:11 – 01:04:34:18
Oh, done. Yeah. No, obviously. Why did she leave him? Obviously I was slightly heartbroken, as I did like her, but also the fact or shagged my mates girlfriend made me feel awful, but I decided to keep my mouth shut as I knew it wouldn't cause any good and didn't want everyone to hate me. A couple of months later, they ended up breaking up and I tell my friend what happened and at the end of the day, we had a laugh about it and enjoyed a lovely pint together.

01:04:34:20 – 01:04:59:08
Fast forward a couple of years. I'm now at university and invite the same friend for a night out, and he brings his sister along to. That's weird. This is me. I can, he might say. Yeah, we go to this club and when I return from the bogs for a piss, I see his sister alone at the bar.

01:04:59:10 – 01:05:22:12
I go to keep her company and protect her from a strange bloke I was. I also consider her a mate. After flirty chat, we both end up snogging. That was not my intention. When I went to the bar, it just slipped in. Yeah, I didn't mean to do that. My mate didn't see me get off with his sister as he was too busy chatting up some girl.

01:05:22:14 – 01:05:31:23
After the night out we all went back to my flat. My mate passes out on the bed and I lay on the end of it sideways.

01:05:32:00 – 01:05:56:14
And right. Okay. My mate passes out and at the end of the bed I lay on it sideways. She then put herself in front of me, pushing her ass into me. I yeah, this is where I get caught in two minds, and I felt like I the devil, an angel on both my shoulders. After a long time of deciding what is the best course of action to take.

01:05:56:16 – 01:06:25:06
She must have got fed up waiting. She put her hands down my pants and started wanking me off. Dead. Yeah, I stopped it before I could finish as all of this. All of a sudden, the realization of what was happening gave me a mental block. They both left in the morning, and even though that was two years ago and the sister now has a boyfriend, she still occasionally gives me a cheeky flirt every time I see her.

01:06:25:08 – 01:06:47:13
And that is something only I know. Am I a bad friend for shagging his girlfriend and getting tossed off by sister? Nah. You're fine. Nah. I think if I make getting they get, you know, the go. My girlfriend, not my sister. Is it so. Yeah. And see that and also the tossed off bit. You said you didn't. Jack so doesn't really count.

01:06:47:13 – 01:07:03:21
So. Yes. I didn't ask for either. So it's really on early and. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're safe. Me you say molested if anything. Yeah. Call the police on us, I didn't know.

01:07:03:23 – 01:07:11:04
The episode in Peep Show where Mark gets molested by again.

01:07:11:06 – 01:07:29:23
So you see what happens? Well, he's he's, he's lying in bed, and that girl comes, she starts, she gets on top of him, and he doesn't really want to have sex of her. And she's just like, she just sticks it in her anyway and right him. And then he's talking to Jeremy the next morning. He just says it was a bit of a weird thing.

01:07:29:23 – 01:07:55:23
And he's he's like, Mark, you like you were raped, Mark. And then Saint Franz comes in and you're like, I guess, well, be careful. Mark was raped, I wasn't right. It's fucking amazing. Let's go to Nick. So good. Pete. Right. So, so next week, the topic is your bucket list of things you want to do. Email us at lots and on pod at gmail.com.

01:07:55:23 – 01:07:59:17
And until then, we will see you next Monday. But.

00:00:01:20 – 00:00:29:08
It's happened again. Goddamn it! This is a bad one as well. Yeah, it is a real bad one. Yeah. After I wouldn't happen. I had that morning ran nine ish or something like that. I booked my flights to Spain, my family holiday to Spain, and having done four flights this year already. I was feeling all right.

00:00:29:09 – 00:00:53:23
Feeling comfortable. Feeling like. You know what? I'm. I'm okay with this. It's a family holiday. People fly. Happens all the time. Blah blah blah blah blah. Within maybe an hour, a nudge over an hour. That news breaks of that horrendous plane crash in India. And then I've just come back to. Oh, great. Brilliant. God, do this again. And I say this is fucking fantastic.

00:00:54:00 – 00:01:17:14
Yeah. Now exactly the same. My daughters go into Ayan Appa for four days with no way. Really? Yeah. With, her Ani and her daughter. Yeah. Not can Raven and I end up. For fuck's sake. She's 17. Not an idiot. But no, she's going well, and I went. It's my first day, and I. Seven and 10 or 8.

00:01:17:18 – 00:01:38:16
Yeah, I went to Turkey for two weeks. Yeah. We we've established this. Would you send your 17 year old. How old? How old is your oldest? Amalie? She is 13, I. Right? Yeah. Do you feel like she's four years off spending two weeks on her own? You know, I know, I know, I know, I know, and I shouldn't ever be ready for that.

00:01:38:16 – 00:01:58:00
And I never go in. And she never go and never go. So, yeah, she's going on Friday. So I'm kind of thinking, like, obviously it's happened now, isn't it? The plane crashes happen, but it just feels like I always knew the taking off was the bad thing. Well, I've always said that if you did say that, you did say that.

00:01:58:00 – 00:02:16:10
Didn't say like I knew. I know about aviation. I just know you did. Someone told me, I said, like, the riskiest part is taking off and you get up in the sky. That's like the bit I'm most afraid is when I'm in mid-air. Yeah. So at the highest point, that's the worst bit for me. Yeah, yeah. It's like 5000ft cruising.

00:02:16:11 – 00:02:38:03
Everything's fine, but you're the most furthest away you possibly can be from the planet. Not from that, from, from, Exactly how I feel. Exactly how I feel. But that it's, like, the safest. Like planes do not fall out of the sky, but. Yeah. So did you see that there was a video of a guy who'd been on the plane before, and.

00:02:38:05 – 00:03:00:10
And he was taking a video that the air conditioning didn't work. None of the screens worked in front of them. None of the remote controls worked. There was no power in there was. The lights were on, but nothing worked. It landed. He then shared it and it's since gone viral. And it was the next flight that didn't didn't make it.

00:03:00:12 – 00:03:17:17
Oh my God, are you kidding? Yeah. So he was like, saying there's something wrong. There's no way I thought you on like this a luxury. Like it's like the airliner and this is all regurgitate shit from the news I'm saying. Right. But the the Dreamliner is like a class in terms of commercial air flight. It's like. It's like the best.

00:03:17:19 – 00:03:37:00
I mean, it sounds it being called a Dreamliner. I'd love to go on the trip, but not anymore. Yeah. Do you see like stocks stocks in Boeing of dropped obviously because one of their planes are falling out of sky. But you like yeah. What if it wasn't their fault. What if the person on the ground didn't do the checks properly.

00:03:37:00 – 00:04:01:11
What if if the pilot had a heart attack. What what if what is not what's happened? Why not be Boeing? Fool. I think Boeing, quite a few strays of of late because of, I don't know, I think it was, it was seen that they were using parts that were past expiry dates and doing stuff they shouldn't. Don't hear that stuff.

00:04:01:13 – 00:04:27:03
I don't know if that's true. You know, I don't know I don't know. I'm I'm fairly sure I read something if this is this podcast had a million listeners, would you just feel so freely to say that Boeing are using parts, old parts on airplanes? Joe Rogan does it. So you never get C. Does he know? Can I just for that absolute fucking know every time he speaks Joe Rogan do you think because we've all met liars in our life, right.

00:04:27:05 – 00:04:43:17
We know what liars sound like behind Joe Rogan? Sometimes when you've just made up, you don't have a mate that used to go hand in with you. Don't you know you didn't come to Ireland, go drinking in Ireland with one of the fans that you'd met there? That didn't happen. You could, he said, oh yeah, I was drinking in Ireland.

00:04:43:17 – 00:05:01:02
Man. Those guys are crazy, man. And I just one of the fans, we went out and we, we got, we were drinking and then it what it sounds like. But in some pub. And those guys are crazy. You never went drinking in a pub in Ireland. Sound like if you did stop making it sound like you're lying, because that's what it sounds like.

00:05:01:02 – 00:05:26:06
Lying. Joe. It does say some mad things, but then often it's the guess that you gets on Gaelic giving a platform to say what they want to say. Yeah. I, I was scared by that. Right? Yeah. And one thing is made it out right. Have, like, I've seen a lot of things, like screengrabs of, the seating plan in the plane and where he was.

00:05:26:08 – 00:05:47:07
That's like, how on earth as this one person managed to survive that wreckage? But what? Like what did he. And they said he jumped out the plane. What does that even mean? Well, I imagine when it crashed, he just quickly everyone else is just sitting there waiting for the seatbelt signs come on. And he's like, fuck this, I'm getting out.

00:05:47:11 – 00:06:07:04
That what he jumped out before? Well, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I know, it crashed. And then Charlie is still alive and he climbed out the wreckage. Yeah, yeah. I mean yeah, that seems the most logical. But again it's like why him not why. Oh, he's just not changed seats as well. Apparently his proper final destination light is coming for him.

00:06:07:08 – 00:06:26:20
Final destination. Come in. You weren't supposed to survive that one. He changed seats like the plane that happens on the plane. I think in that in that film, I don't know about me. I, I like people saying, would you want to be there? Would you want to be the one that survived that? Would you not have survivor's guilt?

00:06:26:22 – 00:06:49:02
I'd be like, fuck no, fuck no, I want to survive. I mean, I'm sad for the other 250 people, but I have just won the lottery. I'm going to live my life in their honor. Yeah, yeah. Some guy again. I don't care anymore. I just survive that in their honor. I'm gonna do two bags of coke. I think I get me some chisel.

00:06:49:04 – 00:07:18:01
Now give me the good stuff. I mean, this is fucking horrible, story as well, where a gentleman had been living in London, fucking Grafton, trying to get his family, who live in India, his wife and three children, I believe, to come to eventually save enough money and bring them to England. And he had just gone to India and to bring them to England.

00:07:18:03 – 00:07:37:10
They were sitting on the plane and they took a selfie of all of them. As you know, the one white flight going to our what we've all worked hard for. She was a doctor coming over to England and all of that. And, they sent that selfie before to the family before they took off. And then obviously all of them have been I didn't see that.

00:07:37:10 – 00:07:58:09
What what is also the to get a couple that had been traveling around India and they did it like a vlog into ever. Yeah. Like it's like I said, some sort of social media accounts and they were talking about their last day and what a magical trip it's been. And then they get on the plane and then that sort of starts even more haunting.

00:07:58:11 – 00:08:21:01
The kind of last photo, the last video they did before they died. Yeah. You always thinking, is this our last podcast before we both die? It could be. When are you flying to Spain? August the 4th. So that could be it. Like you've got. You got a little plane dog before then? Yeah, I have actually. Yeah. I just saw you.

00:08:21:05 – 00:08:43:18
I saw the realization in your eyes. I forgot about that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going to Ireland, but I'm kind of thinking it's only 45 minutes, so. Yeah, but it still won't take off. You still got to take off. Indeed. And you know, if you're going somewhere that's 45 minutes. Do you think the plane reaches the maximum, like 35,000ft in the air?

00:08:43:20 – 00:09:04:04
No. Because what's the point? Not me. Not you can't. Yeah. I wouldn't have been. No been no, no. Now, if you had to guess what would be the maximum height you get? I've got a kind of idea of my head. I thought, what if you. What is in, how high planes go at what put. Yeah. Like if you're only flying to Dublin.

00:09:04:04 – 00:09:28:02
How high in the sky do you think you get before them? And shit? We better start going back down the 36,000, because they want to get as high as possible because you use less fuel. Yeah, I, I like I keep saying 35, I keep thinking 35 is like you reach you thing you. Yeah. You reach 35,000. If I'm flying to Spain, we'll take off, Luton.

00:09:28:02 – 00:09:45:21
And then we get to 35,000ft, and then it's like, stick on cruise control until we get to Madrid, and then we'll start coming down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, when you're flying to fucking Spain, you're at least a 2.5 hour flight. Yeah, I'm saying in a 45 minute flight, do they have time to get up there and down?

00:09:45:23 – 00:10:09:15
I reckon they'll probably get to 25. Oh, see, I was thinking about 28. I'm kind of comfortable at 20. Yeah. Yeah. I'm more comfortable in your be with 46, 37. Yeah. Yeah. That jumping and guy over any mountain ranges you do. Yeah. You might have a bit of a live dog. Down in the. What is it? Well what, the mountain range, apparently.

00:10:09:17 – 00:10:25:00
Is it, I think so, yeah. It is. Yeah, yeah. Come down middle Pyrenees. Very hard to get to top. The weather's too bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. We better eat my.

00:10:25:02 – 00:10:46:15
What are we going to do? I'm going to eat, mum. Yeah, that'll be the first port of call. What would you do, though, man? It's just such a fucking. No, it's a head fuck. It's a head fuck for me because I'm now, like, obviously leading up to it, I'm going to be like, this is. It will panic me.

00:10:46:17 – 00:11:03:02
Yeah. I mean, I've done all I can to make you feel calm about flying. And I think I've done I've done my beer. I'm going to go the other way now, because if you're still scared off everything I've done, I might as well listen, enjoy your fear and. Yeah, sure. And and sort of. So build it up, if anything.

00:11:03:04 – 00:11:27:18
Yeah. No, I think I think that that's what mate should do as well. Scaler. Nice. Even. What this fucking bloke ballocks about, like helping each other out. Bring them down. Oh, bring them down. It does get to between 30 and 38,000 just by going to Bristol. Won't pop that. No. Really? Fly to Vegas. It's going to get that.

00:11:27:18 – 00:11:47:20
I. The thing is it's well they the planes go even higher. Like if there is a thunderstorm and they can get above it, they will go. So, so this kind of thing can in a way go through the thunderstorm rather than above it. It's even scarier. Let's go under the thunderstorm. Yeah, but then what happens if the lightning hits?

00:11:47:20 – 00:12:07:08
And, I don't know, I would be terrible. Rick. Oh, yeah, and I remember when I was flying at Spain once and it was like thunder, lightning, the rain was torrential and I was sitting on the plane and I was thinking, well, they're obviously not going to take off in this because you can't. You literally can't. You've said there's a thunderstorm.

00:12:07:08 – 00:12:24:13
You can see, you can't even see out the window. It's raining so hard. And then we start rolling forward some that they're doing this, they're they're actually doing this is the that. No the people in the. No. Ricky. They don't care about storms. They're not bothered by them. They think this is nothing to us. This is the planes designed to fly for this shit.

00:12:24:15 – 00:12:45:21
So I remember I remember when, I probably said this for phobias in periods. And we were trying to get home. That was big thunderstorm. And when you fly to bits, you'll know she was there recently. Yeah. They're on like you miss one train. Can we get the 8:00 train? That plane? No, there ain't none of that. You missed your plane to berate you stuck there for three days, and it's not a bad place to be stuck in.

00:12:45:21 – 00:13:05:21
Don't get me wrong. Right. If you've got you've got some money behind you. Spend another few days in here. It's it's a dream. Yeah. But anyway, so we we were stuck in this airport and it was like, we've got a mate coming in. We've got nowhere to stay. Right? We're stuck in beer. It's when I say it's fine if you got a bit of money.

00:13:05:21 – 00:13:30:08
We had no money. And we like this guy. We know Jeremy. He's very wealthy. Jeremy Goring is his name. He's a part of the, the Goring family who own hotels in London. How I know something. I know that I know him through. I would he wouldn't probably even remember my name, to be honest, but. But, Ollie and my wife and their friends.

00:13:30:08 – 00:13:54:22
No. Here. No. Sorry. It's really boring. But Ollie's mate's husband, he's, like, best mates with Jeremy, right? Okay, so Jeremy knows my wife and knows obviously he's mate's wife. And I'm kind of just the periphery on the edge of all this. The benefit from it, and how I benefited from it is because he was we knew that he was getting a plane in from,

00:13:54:24 – 00:14:16:07
Where do you fly from? From to get to Stansted. Probably Gatwick. Right. To get to, to get to get spirit. We knew he was come in, but all the planes had been stopped coming into spirit and us having somewhere to stay, no less. An absolute palace to stay in all depended on whether or not he was getting on this plane.

00:14:16:09 – 00:14:39:10
Nine and coming spirit. And we didn't know anything, but his phone was off. I mean, like, maybe he's on the plane, maybe stuck in the tarmac and Gatwick is pissing down and it's then clouds are really tall and black. Yeah. And then there's patches of sunshine every now and then. Then there's a fucking thunderstorm and I'm like, I'm watching.

00:14:39:12 – 00:15:01:00
And luckily he was flying with Ryanair and Ryanair will fucking get you there if they can get you that. Their entire business model is, is is it's own business money business model. He's getting that plane down, getting it for getting it up in the air. That's like are. So we're watching the sky and all of a sudden this plane just came out of the black crowds.

00:15:01:02 – 00:15:23:22
Just, like I don't like that. Just leaning side to side. If a plane could make a noise, it would be a human noise. It would be Glenn. Yeah. It's it's coming down. It's coming. And then it lands big, like a fucking smoker, so. And then and then and then implodes. Jeremy goes, all right, how's it going with like, yes Ryanair of back.

00:15:23:24 – 00:15:42:10
Yeah. No. Yeah. Boy, we had two days in his palace on the edge of a cliff looking out to sea. It is incredible. Oh, my God, that sounds. I'd like to be there right now. Yeah. So I rather jingle. Let's go.

00:15:42:12 – 00:16:12:09
On the night I see like, Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi. Is quiet. Midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band I we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to lads anonymous is episode 98.

00:16:12:11 – 00:16:36:11
I'm Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates. One main topic we answer your lifestyle memos and confessions in our feature. Something only you know and everything remains anonymous. Okay, so sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going, Flav? Yeah, good. Well, good. Everything's fine. Rick. Have you, if you sort of do anything for Thursday, when's that?

00:16:36:13 – 00:16:59:00
Sunday. Oh, no, I haven't I didn't even know it was that. What is the point in it's fucking shit. Like, seriously, I know when I should thank my fucking father, right? Who knows how much I appreciate him and what he's done for me. I tell him every single day. But for some wanker, some lesson. When now. We need,

00:16:59:02 – 00:17:14:16
We need to. We need to monetize this, right? Yeah. That the that the catering industry needs your services. The car industry needs your money. Yeah. Fuck that, fuck that. I'm Mother's day. Fuck that too.

00:17:14:18 – 00:17:41:07
My birthday's fine, but these other two like, nonsense. Like, I don't care. I can imagine you caring, but I don't care if I get I. No. Well, you don't want anything. No kids. No no no no, I'm not bothered. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not bothered. Like the cards and stuff like that. It's just I don't I man it's, it's like how many times, like when you're living with someone or like your partner and how many times can you write like similar things?

00:17:41:07 – 00:18:13:02
Do you know, I mean, like, as in, like for your dad and, your, your wife and kids and stuff like that. But Father's Day is always one of those ones where I'm kind of like, I'm scratching around on a gift idea for my old man. I have no idea what to get him. And, you know, I kind of a a gold kind of, easy root is something to do with football.

00:18:13:02 – 00:18:34:14
Naturally. So I got him a an official program. The Europa League final program. And that was, that was, you know, obviously programs. And when we were out there, they were also announced they couldn't get any. And plus they were like fucking catalogs. So it's like no one wants to be carrying a catalog around the whole fucking.

00:18:34:16 – 00:19:01:04
They're massive. Yeah. What's the would you own? It was the Father's Day if you hadn't told him. Yeah. He's pretty good with dates, actually. He's like one of those guys that has a, wall mounted calendar and he hand writes everything in, so I'm pretty sure he would have. He would have had it sussed. Then I did one of those, you know, online cards sent out to him.

00:19:01:04 – 00:19:23:17
Get there in time. So, I'm all sweet, but for me, I'm not even here on Sunday. I'm going fishing. So I said to my Mrs.. I said, look, I know it's Father's Day on Sunday. I don't know, you guys will probably want to get up and the girls might want to do me breakfast and all that lot, but I'm going to be out the door at 7:00.

00:19:23:19 – 00:19:47:20
She's like, why? I said, I'm going fishing lot going fishing seven till right mid afternoon, late afternoon. She was like, yeah, absolutely fine, knock yourself out. And I sat. It's going to be ring Father's Day to me. My own fishing. Well you haven't towed. So are we allowed to talk about the conundrum? The fishing conundrum? You got which one?

00:19:47:22 – 00:20:16:20
Yeah, we can talk about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. That's fine. So I'm going rig. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going fishing with, my mate, his son, another mate and his son. But they they you can fish. And then there's another mate and his son, and they've never been fishing before. Now I grab every opportunity I can when people say, you want to go fishing, I'm like, yeah, man, I fucking love fishing.

00:20:16:20 – 00:20:40:04
Any opportunity and fishing is always is much more fun when you go with other people, because you just messing about all day. And it's the that when you catch something big or something interesting, it's much more fun to share that moment with people. But the people that I'm going with, if they, I'll just say they're novices in game fishing.

00:20:40:06 – 00:21:11:22
And I've been paired up with my a good mate of mine and his son, and they, you know, they can cast a rod and they're fine, but they won't touch my guts. They, like, can barely cast out. There's a lot of help and hand-holding needed. And I just want to sit there and enjoy nature and catch fish myself, but instead, I'll be untangling knots where people have cast into trees people that are just needing my attention all the time.

00:21:11:22 – 00:21:30:19
I'll be up at my seat all the time, and I'd much rather it not be that just thinking that I don't want to be doing that. So what can what, what can I do to get away from that? Might go to the opposite side of the lake. I like it, he's like you were catching loads of fish. I just wanted to fish where you were fishing.

00:21:30:21 – 00:21:49:07
That's nice. Yeah. He's like, yes, that's not allowed in. No, it's not not, not at all. So I was fishing and what I so what you do is you kind of with your swim where you're fishing and you're baiting up and you have to bait accurately and you get fish competing for the free food that's going in.

00:21:49:08 – 00:22:07:01
Yeah, to a specific area. So while they're kind of, in competition with each other with this free food, and then you stick your bait there and then, you know, a fish will take it. So I was catching a lot of fish. A hell of a lot of fish, actually. And he wasn't catching any. And he was like, kind of like, how am I going to yours?

00:22:07:03 – 00:22:25:14
You've got all the fish, and I want him to have a good time. Yeah, but I wanted to have a good time. That's like a rule. Don't really do that. You know, like any other guys when they say, nah, nah, nah nah, this is where this is. Where? Patience episode over there. Not only does he coming to my swim, but he casts exactly.

00:22:25:14 – 00:22:45:19
I mean, exactly where I'm fishing. You cannot do that. So that's double things. And I was like, John, you can't fucking do that. I need to woo. That's where you're fishing. That's where all the fish are. You need to go. So he edged me out to like to part the swim where I hadn't put any bait in, where it was just fraction.

00:22:45:19 – 00:23:06:05
I was going to have to warm the area up. And then if sun comes in and they've just taken over my swim and I'm just in the weeds and the side, I'm not. This is this isn't my not my day off going fishing. This isn't fun. What's fucking happened here? So nine and ten, but, they're nine on, let's say.

00:23:06:09 – 00:23:30:03
So it's you just you pull up when you get to a lake, you plot up and you decide where you're going to fish and what areas the swim and what areas will be baited. And you have to prepare the area. And so fish get used to the food being there and all that sort of stuff. And then once you're in that position, can you move to another area like if it doesn't work, yes you can.

00:23:30:03 – 00:23:46:00
Yeah. Right. Right, right. So that's what a good fisherman would do. Right. So you don't then if there's another fisherman on the other side of the lake and he's catching fish, go and sit by him and cast next to him, like if you didn't know him, he'd probably punch you in the face and be like, what the fuck are you doing?

00:23:46:04 – 00:24:09:04
Is that how you do? How maybe this is. Yeah, yeah. It's insane. Insane. Even if you're not fishing where the other person is and you're kind of casting in and around that area, you're disturbing the water and it's like a fish, gaining confidence. And then something is happening. The vibrations in the water are kind of close to where they are.

00:24:09:04 – 00:24:28:06
They're going to get spooked and be like, what the fuck's that? So you can't not be fucking around in another man's swim. Is it kind of like buying a house, building it, doing it up, living in it, starting to get up, and then you mate comes round and says, can I go and have sex with your wife in your bedroom?

00:24:28:08 – 00:25:04:09
Is that. Yeah, I'd say yes. Exactly that. That is exactly I way, you know. Yeah. That's ask you do you know what we're talking about today? Superstitions. Yeah. You got caught in a trap. I can't hold back. Because I love you too much. But but, why can't you see? Why can't you see what you do in the me?

00:25:04:11 – 00:25:29:12
I can't really, that's what the next level. I can't even see. I didn't even think of that. I was thinking of there is superstitious writings on the wall. Is that fucking myth? Steve Wonder, is it? Yeah. I was going to say you're one of your favorite artists, Stevie Wonder. I preferred happy birthday to you, though. I don't really like any of this stuff.

00:25:29:12 – 00:25:54:10
What does that say? What's that Elvis song, caught in the sea. It was a suspicious sight. Suspicious mind? Yeah. Suspicious minds. This is is with suspicious minds. Was that remind you of? I don't know. I must be getting jacked off my tits at right fly for that back there. It reminds me of for him on a Saturday mid-March.

00:25:54:10 – 00:26:22:17
Yeah, yeah. That's right. Reminds me of back from the club. Stick on Elvis, stick on a bit of Tiny Dancer by, John Tiny. I would go a certain extent and, then round it off with a bit of hurricane by, what's his name? Bob Dylan. Oh, okay, okay, I can't I can't recall that you do with the hurricane.

00:26:22:19 – 00:26:54:07
No. Great great great bass. Do you have any, superstitions yourself? No. You don't believe in magic or ghosts in it? It's all bullshit. Really? What do you. I mean, I, I probably would say I don't believe it, but I wouldn't laugh in the face of it. I will give you some. I'll give me some examples. Actually. Let me, let me find some.

00:26:54:09 – 00:27:20:21
So if you broke a mirror, would you be like, oh fuck no. Yeah, I, I'd walk under a ladder 50 times, not give a shit. You would walk under a ladder. Yeah. You are fucking mental. It's it's it's nonsense. It's pretty. It's fucking, it's nonsense. What would what I'm going to say. So. So we let's talk a little bit.

00:27:20:23 – 00:27:45:01
Yeah. We are. You're talking about something that exists beyond what we can conceive to be real, right? A mysticism, some sort of divine objection to something you're doing, right? Yeah. Something greater than ourselves looking down and saying you cannot break the rules. You can't go against what nature intended. And if you do, we're going to punish you.

00:27:45:03 – 00:28:10:04
Yeah. And the ladder is what it was. What what they come up with. They went. They walk under a ladder. They walk under a ladder, a ladder. Ricky, I'm long ladders have been around. But you say that pointing. Go on like that. Like what you've done there with that ladder. God's gone. Come on. Just before Adam and Eve didn't have a fucking ladders in the in the, you know, Garden of Eden, right?

00:28:10:10 – 00:28:27:05
So at some point, we built a ladder in God's garden. Yep. Like that. That's good. If I got one of you got fucked me. One of you is, come up with this ladder because you need to get up in higher places. If one of you motherfuckers walk under it. Yeah, you'll. Yeah. All the bad luck. That's how stupid, Ricky.

00:28:27:05 – 00:28:46:13
That's why I don't believe in it. Right. Okay, now you paint out like that, they feel like it's a bit silly, but I don't want to tempt fate. That's the thing. Like, if I. If there's a point right where a mirror is going to drop, I would do everything so that it doesn't smash just in case, you know.

00:28:46:13 – 00:29:16:14
And if there's a ladder and I'm backing up the ladder and I'm walking, I will not go under that ladder. I'll go around the ladder. But you're like, don't care, just go under it. What about oh, this one might be, very apt. Friday the 13th. It's Friday 13th today. Is it? Yeah. Oh, well, there you go. That's how much I believe in it.

00:29:16:14 – 00:29:40:14
I didn't even realize, I mean, well, I don't think I, I don't. Wow. Okay, let me let's do a little test. Let's do a little bit, okay? Okay, okay. It's Friday 13th. Yeah. I don't believe in this. Yeah, right. So if fate is listening to me, of all the things you should be listening to myself, if you've decided to hunker down into what I'm just about to say.

00:29:40:16 – 00:30:02:07
Okay, this is really out of order. Do your worst. Do us today. But, you know, we can't say really what you mean. What's gonna happen to me is worse. What's happened to those poor cats on an airplane? No, no, you're not taking a flight for one. But no, And something bad happens now, though. Then may God strike me down.

00:30:02:09 – 00:30:23:23
It. Would you be a believer? I'll be dead. But, I mean, not not really. Are just guys coincidence? You know? Yeah. Two things aren't connected. They can't be. They can't. They can't be. They can't be that incredible. But also, like an unbelievable but also so trivial. And it's nonsense, man. It's all fucking, isn't it? It's complete nonsense.

00:30:24:00 – 00:30:49:16
What about if you were to see a magpie? And you're driving in your car, you see two magpies in your head or under breath. Do you salute the magpies? Yeah, I do, you do? Yeah. Every time. Yeah. She. How's the wife and kids. That's what say you go. Yeah. Well can we do this. Actually I do do that.

00:30:49:16 – 00:31:13:15
So I don't get bad luck. It doesn't cause my in my brain to go. That's what I'm doing. Where did that come from? Did you find out? No, I didn't, I didn't. It was. It was twinned with the, black cats crossing your path. And this is, only something that happens in Western culture. Apparently. The tradition of saluting magpies stems from a superstition that is seeing a single magpie as bad luck was in two magpies.

00:31:13:15 – 00:31:36:18
Is a is is a sign of good luck. So Newton single magpies a way to ward off potential misfortune, offering respect and potential, preventing bad luck and a superstition is the one for sorrow to for joy. Rhyme is the most well-known belief. Yeah, I do that all the time. The one sorry team for joy. Go for going away.

00:31:36:20 – 00:32:06:11
Yeah, yeah yeah for gold I fucking hate to be told you are very bought into the Magpies running. Yeah I didn't see that one coming from what you've just. What about Crossing your fingers. No, no, I wasn't watching football. Maybe a little bit. Yes. This is this is what I. This is an interesting point originally. Right. This has come to why we chose this topic.

00:32:06:11 – 00:32:22:05
It was sent in by a lad. I've completely forgotten. He sent in a voice note, and I sent you the email for the voice. And I didn't even tell you that the voice was this. I got it completely. My job is to play it now. Yeah. And then that'd be good. Actually. Oh. Hold him. Go download it.

00:32:22:07 – 00:32:55:16
Keep the fill feel. So. So it's when you're like with football, I find myself doing the most, craziest weird things that I wouldn't normally do. And believing things, making extra sure that I don't tread on cracks in the pavement, or making sure that I if I'm reading a stat about a certain game and I don't know, Newcastle haven't conceded from a corner.

00:32:55:16 – 00:33:26:21
So I'm like, I don't know, hoping that we shoot from outside the. But whatever it might be to break that, there are times and you know, because we support Tottenham, there were a lot of times where I'm in the stadium and we need something. We need something big and I will look up to the sky and in my mind I'm reciting please just whatever, whatever it is that's out there, I don't know what it is.

00:33:26:23 – 00:33:52:03
Right? The good vibrations, the good vibe, the good of energy, just just do some of that come off. No, not really, not my not really. But but at one time I could it it might, it might happen. Do you know what I mean. Yeah. It's more over. Probably our shit footballers and terrible tactics. So, have the influence.

00:33:52:05 – 00:34:15:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but there's always that bit. What if, like, maybe if I did do that, it might happen. But I think again, maybe. Coincidence. Yeah, just a bit. I've got a video ready. Right. Yeah. Go on. Player.

00:34:15:13 – 00:34:33:00
Oh, that's. I just I told you this little voice note. Because if you want to talk about this on the pod or anything, I don't really know. But before the Europa League final, I did like a mad routine of, like, going to the gym, like a certain spaceship, going home, shower and put on a different one watching the game.

00:34:33:02 – 00:34:55:05
I also before that I was at work and I had the choice between like an easy amount of work and a hard amount of work, which I know sounds really vague, which was the hard amount of work. So for suffer now, we won't suffer later. I'm just curious if you guys have anything that's like similar to that or any weird like post pre-match routines or superstitions that you guys have?

00:34:55:10 – 00:35:17:22
Anyway, I love the pull up Spurs. Come on, I like that. I like the fact that is a good way to apply your life is yeah, suffer now so you don't suffer later. That's, that's that's a bit that. Yeah. If you superstitions are leading him to behave in that way then then fair play. You should continue them. That is that's that's probably a healthy outlook a lot I mean I don't do that.

00:35:17:22 – 00:35:46:09
I wish I, I should apply that much more. Yeah. It did make me laugh of like the choice of the easy work or the hard work do the hard to him actually. Yeah. I meant the Spurs won the the year. I think it's like so that. Yeah just on that like like it's, it was like people give us grief legitimate grief for doing fight and cock socials where we get everybody in a room and watch what Spurs play.

00:35:46:11 – 00:36:13:13
And obviously the kind of games that we pick were ones that we played away from home. So we don't, you know, interfere with the match day at home. But the big games where people get excited for which is games are difficult to win. That's the logic behind it. Right. So these games on, we aren't likely to win those most most of the time people would email you, can you stop doing the socials because Spurs keep losing and know like like the people genuinely believe that.

00:36:13:13 – 00:36:43:11
The reason why I suppose the reason is because we keep doing these socials. The 300 men for 350 men in a pub in Waterloo, watching the game that's being played 2000 miles west of where, yes, the where we are. The reason those professional footballers have lost against another really good side is the fact that these men have congregate in a room, you know, that is it is stupid.

00:36:43:14 – 00:37:04:16
But there was a time where I was like, we've the bad guys, like, we've done quite a few socials and nothing had come up for us. And I was like, yeah, obviously not not stopping doing the socials, but it's like, fucking, are we ever going to win and is ever going to be really fun to do these because we to keep losing, which is mental.

00:37:04:18 – 00:37:31:24
Right. Superstitions. I get a apart from magpies where you know you are it seems you're a believer. What about like premonitions. Do you I mean ever had a, like a premonition of, I don't know, a loved one dying or an accident that you knew that was about to happen. You spotted it from a mile away.

00:37:32:01 – 00:37:51:22
One of the the classic ones is a phone ringing. You just knew it's going to be that person that was going to break the bad news or something like that. You knew that was going to happen, mate. Did you ever like so. So you say when you're saying that what came to me was like saying that this coincidences can be incredible.

00:37:51:24 – 00:38:20:05
Right. There was this in this well known story now, and I can't remember specific details about it, but this person had left work and had gone to visit a friend in another part of the country. And it was like Friday. It was like 530. And he's walking along the road and there was a telephone box, and he walks past the telephone box and it starts ringing.

00:38:20:07 – 00:38:41:06
And bear in mind is a couple hundred miles away from where he lives and works. And he's like, I've done it as well. When you've walked past, they don't have them anywhere many, many anymore because someone's got mobile phone. Yeah. Telephone box is used to be common and occasion of walked past one and they're ringing and you ring it and generally it's like a wrong number or I don't know what it meant.

00:38:41:06 – 00:39:15:00
The operator testing the line and this man picks it up and it's someone from his office asking them a question about payroll. What? Yeah, this is fact. This happened. You can Google it. And so he's like, this person just talks like sorry. Normally like of course this person is going to pick up because I've called him, but he hadn't it called a random telephone number by mistake or maybe got a digit out and.

00:39:15:02 – 00:39:32:05
He called the person he's expected to pick up and he picked up. And it's normal to him and he's like, how? How did you know I was here walking past this telephone box at this stage, and I didn't I've just called your normal number because I haven't. I'm in fucking Doncaster seeing a friend. I'm in the telephone box.

00:39:32:10 – 00:39:46:17
I picked it up and you're speaking to you crazy. How does that happen? It just a complete fluke. It's got to be in it. What else could it be? It's not even. It's not like I'm not about to tell you mum's dying or something. Then. Then you'll be like, wow, that is something I need to talk to him about.

00:39:46:17 – 00:40:13:11
Payroll. It's like, yeah, if you ever had anything like that happen to you, like, seeing an omen. Like, if you see certain signals or signs or certain, I don't know, just things that will make you kind of, like, know that something is about to happen. I mean, if you go back to football again, I think if you.

00:40:13:13 – 00:40:32:19
Sometimes you have a feeling about a game before it's off. Yeah. Know exactly how it's going to go and it plays out. But maybe you've been in that situation so many times and felt the similar like circumstances around the game are so familiar to you that you can kind of predict how a game will go before it even kicks off.

00:40:32:21 – 00:40:52:09
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I when Spurs played Arsenal in 2008 February 2008 League Cup semifinal, second leg, I yeah, I just had a feeling we were going to win that night and we hadn't beaten them in like 40 games or something. Yeah yeah yeah I could have put that down to some sort of foreshadowing or foreboding foreshadowing of what might happen.

00:40:52:11 – 00:41:16:00
Do you believe in, like trusting your gut feeling? Yeah. That kind of. Yeah. Okay. That's an occasion. That's a, of a premonition of trust. And it's not okay. It's not premonition. It's intuition. I think gut is like, based on experience. Is this a good idea? And, you know, deep down, it ain't like, should I like the.

00:41:16:02 – 00:41:50:01
Yeah. Should I get another bargain? Probably not. Say no. My brain saying yes. Yeah. But you know what I mean. It's, it's more it's less mystical. It's more a learning. It's your subconscious knowing that you've learned this. You know what to do here. Do this thing. But you're intellectually going, no, I to do something else because there's a lot of, more scientific kind of research done now where your gut and your brain is, more connected than they originally thought.

00:41:50:03 – 00:42:13:23
So that gut feeling, and it kind of affecting how you think about things is more connected than than you would imagine. I remember I like my mum, like, for most people, your mom is the go to. I know I had, what problem did I have? I had a problem with it wasn't a problem. It was just,

00:42:14:00 – 00:42:32:17
So one of the clients I had for social media, and it was about payment, and it was, do I charge a a day rate or do I charge a monthly rate? And it was just stuff like that. And, I was I felt like it was should be a day. Right mum. My mum was like just do a month.

00:42:32:17 – 00:42:51:00
And I was like, but there might be like, I might work five Fridays in a month in comparison to four Friday in a month. So I did it on a daily rate. I'd get more money. And it was just this conversation and my mum was like, oh, you just just go with the monthly don't Rock the boat, that kind of thing.

00:42:51:02 – 00:43:11:10
I normally like nine times out of ten mums, right? And I'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds fine. But there was just something, you know, that gut feeling it's to say, no, I'm going to, I'm going to do daily instead and just go against what she said, which I would never normally do. And I did that and everything worked out fine.

00:43:11:10 – 00:43:47:20
It was great. But it's just one of those things where I'm kind of like, I will trust in other, other people's like opinion and my mums and stuff like that, but sometimes the like, you're intuition or gut or premonition wherever is so overriding and you just feel that it's right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So I, I, I'm a believer in that kind of, that gut feeling and I don't know whether this comes on the premonition, but this is probably my biggest one.

00:43:48:01 – 00:44:08:10
Yeah. I've got a feeling you're going to say about it. My nan passed away. My name was ill. She was in hospital. She'd been in hospital, like, a week or so or something like that. And I was asleep and I woke up. I'd never normally wake up during the middle of the night ever. And I thought, how fucking I am wide awake.

00:44:08:10 – 00:44:27:19
And I looked at my phone. It was like 3:00 in the morning. It's like, oh fuck no. I still got loads of time to go back to sleep. That's great. I went back to sleep and then when I woke up in the morning, it had a message from a from a dad saying, can you call me? So I called him, said Nanna passed away and obviously really upset.

00:44:27:19 – 00:44:54:12
And I said, when did she go? And he said that, she passed away at 3:00 this morning. And you're like, what? What? Like I get it right. The. Is it Ockham's razor? You know, it's where you're, Where you kind of deduce what happened to be the most logical thing. Ockham's razor, also known as the principle of, Paris.

00:44:54:12 – 00:45:19:24
To me, suggests that when faced with multiple explanations for a phenomenon, the simplest one is usually the best. Yeah. So? So it's like a, you know, coincidence. You put that down to. Yeah, you. But there must be, you know, I mean, not you just won't like that most of the time. Yeah. And it is 3:00 though. I'm on and died.

00:45:20:01 – 00:45:45:04
Yeah. But it's the same thing with the it's much more like look, I mean, you what I'm about to say. I don't want to take anything away from the fact that you had this connection. Right? No. Sure, sure. Yeah. Gun. Gun. Right. So ultimately, the most, but you know, and hate it, you know, like, it's obvious, like my brother's, no Nazi.

00:45:45:10 – 00:46:09:03
So. So the the likelihood is you just woke up at the same time. Similar time to a passing. Oh, I might be wrong. And there is some sort of mystical connection. And she wanted it was seismic and. That's what you woke up that you sensed that she was passing. But the simplest way, if you're using Ockham's razor, the simplest thing, what's the process that you woke up.

00:46:09:03 – 00:46:40:22
You know it's the time and it just happened to be the same time that she was passing. Yeah. And but. What's the nicest thing to believe. And you should believe the thing that brings you the most amount of peace. Yeah, I mean that. Yeah. That there is that my my Mrs. as well. She's had one where she, woke up and she could smell a very specific smell.

00:46:40:24 – 00:47:07:12
And it was like a, a medical smell, like antiseptic or something that, that. And she only knows this smell from a certain place in a certain time of their life when she was very, very young and, from her granddad. And she, she didn't grow up long enough to really know her granddad, but she remembers this antiseptic smell because he used to use it for something or other.

00:47:07:14 – 00:47:36:05
Anyway, she, rang her mum and said to her, like, I just smell the smell. This antiseptic remind me of granddad. Like. And she was very kind of like would remember granddad, and her mum was. That's really funny, because it's the anniversary of your granddad's death today. And it's like those things I, I spoke to you, but I know how that's the, you know, the about the, when we did the one about ghosts, the upset about ghost.

00:47:36:05 – 00:47:56:10
Yeah. And I told the story about both me and my brother was spoken to by a nun at the same time. Yes. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah, I was up in my bedroom. My. In my granddad's house. My nana died in that house, and, she said something to me. I run downstairs to tell my mum I'd heard this voice.

00:47:56:12 – 00:48:17:13
And my brother, who was seven years younger than me and a boy at the time he came out and he just said, I've just been spoken to by Nan at the same time. We came together at the same time. Yeah, I can't explain that. No matter how much I can try and apply a pragmatist sort of cynic. Yeah, I can't explain that at all.

00:48:17:15 – 00:48:43:01
I don't know where the voice come from. It wasn't from a radio. There was no right. There was a radio in the room, but it wasn't on, and it was in the air. It wasn't from any part of the room. Yeah. And it just happened to me. It may be someone's voice had been thrown, you know, strange things like that happen and something that, you know, it might have been a bit of static in the radio, and I might have heard it just just for a second.

00:48:43:01 – 00:49:03:02
It turned on and off. Yeah, but the fact that Alex wasn't in the room is in another part of the house. And for us to both hear it at the same time and come across, I can't explain it. I could never explain it. I know I never meant to explain it, and that's fucking weird. And it man, that is weird and stuff like that.

00:49:03:04 – 00:49:33:20
The, this is like the last bit that I'll, I'll chat about, like, karma and transferrable energy. Good vibes. Are you. I like because you've been quite, you know, I'd say don't believe in superstitions, premonitions with karma. What you kind of the good ness, the good, energy you put out into the world, and then you come back with good energy.

00:49:33:23 – 00:49:58:13
Is that something that you're like, it's absolute ballocks. Just get on with your day, mate. Oh, you. Do you believe in kind of that visualization of I want to achieve this. And the energy I put into that to achieve it is, is down to what I'm putting out into the world. I don't believe there's this kind of universal balance happening.

00:49:58:15 – 00:50:19:24
I don't believe in karma. Like if you do a good thing here down the road, a good thing will happen to you because you've done that good thing. I genuinely believe that if you're a good person and you try to excuse me, try to do the right thing over and over again, that generally if you're doing good things, people will want to do good things for you.

00:50:19:24 – 00:50:35:16
But it's not a sort of universal balance is right. I'll get yeah, just a decent human being. And if you're a decent human being, surround yourself with decent people. They're more likely to help you out or give you opportunities like, yeah.

00:50:35:18 – 00:51:01:11
I it's there's no such thing as karma. It can't exist in isolated things. As far as I understand it, I can't but if I'm, if I'm visualizing to a cheat, like, say you slipped into the the I've dived there about like, positive affirmations, right? Yeah. If you focus on something that you want so desperately, subconsciously, unconsciously, you're going to make maneuvers in order to make that thing a reality.

00:51:01:13 – 00:51:24:07
And, and you're, you're going to be able to acknowledge when you've made progress because it feels like you're moving in that direction. So if you want a brand new BMW, then you'll work and say even do one that's necessary in order to get that BMW. But people believe that this universe giving you the BMW, that's where I'm kind of like, I mean, the universe.

00:51:24:07 – 00:51:42:22
You just work in the moving yourself in that direction. Like, what if someone said to me, oh, visualize what you want to do when you're 50? And I said, I want to do a career in podcasting, right? I want to make my living out of podcasting. If I just waited for the universe to give me that, just because I thought about it a lot, it would never have happened.

00:51:43:02 – 00:52:04:12
So I put into place and did things in order to make it happen. Yeah, it wasn't the universe coming. A knock on the door. This is Mike knocking on the mike, right? I you know, the universe didn't put $10,000 into podcasting, I did that. Yeah, I did that. You know what I mean? It's, Yeah, I get that, I get it well and.

00:52:04:13 – 00:52:21:03
Well, how you explained it there, I was a bit like. Nah, I believe in karma. Yeah, well, the goodness I put out in the world. You don't believe in it there. No. I again, I mean, it's it's this thing. It's real. It's like it's real in the sense that the better person you are, the better your life will be.

00:52:21:05 – 00:52:47:08
You, the people you choose to surround yourself with, with. Are they good people? Are they looking out for you? Yes. It's like people that go like, oh man, the amount you hear it, especially on social media where there's a guy I like watching, the kind of hope core. That's what I like. Right? Hope core, you know, like is it's like basically videos that are designed to make you feel good as opposed to deathcore, which you'd be like people getting eaten by crocodiles.

00:52:47:10 – 00:53:24:01
There's room for both in my life for sure, but no, but hope cause like people doing good stuff. And there's that kind of cynicism about it because are you exploiting the people you're helping because they're giving you loads of views as an element to it, but it comes from a good place anyway. There's this famous geezer going, he goes around and he finds people in need often that they might be homeless or living on the street, and he finds a woman and she needs rent money, and he gives a he doesn't know this, but he's like, I'm gonna do this for you, and I'm gonna give you 1,000 pounds.

00:53:24:03 – 00:53:41:09
Yeah. She's like, oh my God. And she turns away from him. She looks up to school and she goes, God, you're so good. You're so good. God, I know the video you're talking about. That means millions like it be. Yeah, yeah. It's true. God didn't do that for you. Fucking Zack did that for you or whatever his name is.

00:53:41:11 – 00:53:57:16
There is no it was. God wasn't maneuvering this. If God wanted to give it to you, a drop down in front of your feet like that. So, yeah, it's important to like. And to be fair, she was really grateful. She hugged him and told him she loved him and all that sort of stuff. But is this a sign of God?

00:53:57:16 – 00:54:18:12
Because it's for me. If you're if you're happy, if you're happy, if you'd happily thank God for what you've got and damn God for what you don't, you're not absolving yourself of responsibility for the situation that you find yourself in. Like if you're a drug addict, it's because of things that have happened to you in the choices you made have led you to that point.

00:54:18:14 – 00:54:39:20
And God and and God, if you get better, if you you did it, I don't know. No. No. That's that is that spot on. I can't really add to that because I think you've, you've rounded that bit up. Well, that but you've just you've just, destroyed any belief I had in com, good vibe, right?

00:54:39:22 – 00:55:00:10
Not many. You know, any good things will happen to you if you do good things for sure. Yeah. And I do believe that, obviously I believe that. But the because I used to be, I'm like, I remember my mum, my mum said something to me, this is quite a few years ago now and it always stuck with me.

00:55:00:12 – 00:55:19:24
And it was something had happened and I was going off on the deep and effing and blinding and this and that power, fucking. I was very much why me? Poor me, that kind of mindset. And she said to me that you're always so negative and you always kind of jump in at the deep end and you always go to the the worst thing that happened.

00:55:19:24 – 00:55:52:06
You're so angry, you're so frustrated. And I took that on board and I thought, I don't see myself like that, I really don't. And then I went to I've counseling and then I, you know, obviously that was playing in my mind. And I've tried so hard to move myself away from that way of thinking. And I think we mentioned it in the last part or, you know, one, one back about CBT and, you know, when you're, when you naturally receive bad news that you, you will tread the path of least resistance.

00:55:52:06 – 00:56:12:09
And that's how you've always thought and trying to re, think a different path and make it more positive. It's really hard to do, but you have to kind of just keep going at it. And I've got to a place now where I feel like that I am a lot more positive and a lot more better at, dealing with those situations.

00:56:12:09 – 00:56:37:02
I, you know, as ever and anyone else I could do better, but yeah, I kind of feel like again, with that and dealing with that, I'm thinking more positively that the more positive things will happen out of that situation. And it might be fucking hocus pocus or whatever, but that's what I kind of feel like, and I believe and it's working for me just as a positive mindset.

00:56:37:02 – 00:56:58:12
Right? Yes. That's positive mental attitude. Linford Christie talked about all the other music on the advert PMA positive. Okay. He did. That's quite a nice reference. The my, my mum used to say to me, I'd say like bad things would happen to me. Like what? What? Like if something didn't go away, I didn't get job, I want it.

00:56:58:12 – 00:57:17:12
Even life is a part time job. And I'd say to my mum, like, why didn't why didn't this happen? What? Why is this happening to me? Why why do I feel this way? And she'd say to me, why? Why not? You? Why shouldn't this happen to you? Why? You know what? Why do you deserve a life that not not.

00:57:17:12 – 00:57:37:06
She didn't say it in as many words, but it's almost like, yeah, you understanding that bad things and difficult challenges will happen to you, and also accepting responsibility for why those things have happened. Because they don't just happen out of the blue. What did you do? Not you specifically? Yeah. What did you do to help that situation make it better for yourself?

00:57:37:08 – 00:57:57:14
Did you go about things in the right way? What parts of what happened to you can you take responsibility for so they don't happen again? And then whether you choose or not to apply that or even go through that process is up to you. But no one cares if you didn't do it, no one cares, and no one's really looking out for you in that respect either.

00:57:57:14 – 00:58:26:02
So if you choose not to go for a process of self evaluation when something goes wrong in your life, then only hurts you really badly. Yeah. Anyway, no, that's good, that's good. We've got we haven't got a dilemma this week. But we do have something I know, you know, that one is called pickpocket. The topic for next week is going to be music festivals.

00:58:26:02 – 00:58:50:19
So Glasto is upon us. And if I'm honest, I'm feeling a little bit, a little bit jelly. But I'm also at the point of light. Can I actually camp out for four days? Not while I'm like, I'm 42 years old, I don't know, I'm just in Glastonbury and live in the house and then go to that's one like when we go to festivals like Primavera in Portugal.

00:58:50:20 – 00:59:03:21
Yeah, we camped in the heat, like we said, in a hotel. We walked in every day. Oh my God, I didn't even think about the camping in the heat thing. Is that where no one does that? Unless you're unless you're like a 19 year old kid and you need to save loads of money, then understand in that respect.

00:59:03:21 – 00:59:24:18
But no. No. Yeah. Yes. Sitting in some fucking muddy field with loads of fucking Herberts should. We'll talk about it. But my, like, my daughter's going to have a festival on her own. She has a wedding on her own for. For a while. Not on a run around with a couple of mates. It's my first festival. Yeah, yeah.

00:59:24:20 – 00:59:48:21
The problem is, I reckon again, we'll talk about this, but the vibe seems to have changed. Yes, yes, I know, I know kids, I know 40 year old said that kids were wankers when we were kids and they were 40 year olds. But yeah, but some of what again, upsets me is just I can't get my head around like there's like walls in this campsite and there's like walls between the, but we talk about it, which is why we will talk about it.

00:59:48:21 – 01:00:10:23
So if you've got any, festivals that you've been to location wise, where the mad festival and the UK. Yeah. Mad Festival stories. We want to hear from you. The bands, the best line ups that you see, the location that you travel to to get it. You go to Croatia for a festival. Yeah. I did a festival in Croatia called Sun Star.

01:00:10:23 – 01:00:38:23
Some like that, all that, all that stuff that, we want to hear from you about. And I went to Sonar Festival, Barcelona, on a stag day, which I have some stories. And if you've got any horror stories about portaloos random people in your tent, or fucking drug fueled nights where you didn't know where you were and what happened, send in to lads anon pod at gmail.com.

01:00:39:00 – 01:00:47:08
Now we are going to be going into something only you know.

01:00:47:10 – 01:00:54:07
Wow. Something, you know.

01:00:54:09 – 01:01:21:11
This is called pickpocket. While backpacking through Thailand and generally having a great time, things took a weird turn. One night I was out drinking with a friend and two girls we'd met at previous hostel. After a heavy night, we ended up skinny dipping at the beach. Classic. I know that there with me. Afterwards, the others dried off and just quicker than me, so I told them I'd catch them up.

01:01:21:13 – 01:01:45:07
As I was heading back to the hostel alone, a Thai woman on a scooter pulled up next to me. She was around 40. Not small, not huge, just there. She started shouting at me and Thai. Between being drunk and the language barrier, I had no clue what she was on about being detained there. I told her where I was staying and she offered me a lift.

01:01:45:09 – 01:02:13:23
Feeling adventurous, I jumped on. As we passed my friends, I smugly gave them the wanker gesture like I was some kind of legend. Seconds later, she reached behind and to my surprise, started rubbing my cock. Yeah, just like that. I was stunned, but admittedly didn't stop her. Like the first. Not like the thirsty pig I am. By the time we pulled up to the hostel, I had a full on, hard on.

01:02:14:00 – 01:02:44:13
I plan to thank her and head in, but instead she grabbed me and led me away from the entrance into the bushes. As pure curiosity, I obeyed like the good little boy I am into the bushes. Well, one thing led to another and five chaotic minutes later protected. Thankfully it was over. I threw out my shorts and stumbled back to my room, sobering up just enough to be hit with the classic what the fuck was that?

01:02:44:15 – 01:03:09:19
Also sinking in the fact that I had just given my friends the wanker sign. That's that's all. That's fine. The next morning I woke up with mud all over my knees and my bed, a dirty little reminder of the night before I reached for my phone. Then had a gut feeling and checked my wallet. Of course gone. The 2000 baht, the odd withdrawn the night before had disappeared.

01:03:09:21 – 01:03:35:13
She'd pickpocketed me while I was inside her. So yeah, in short, I was drunk, sexually assaulted and robbed by a woman I now refer to as the Thai mugger. Strangely, I wasn't even traumatized. Just mostly pissed about the money. Lesson learned. Never a random scooter. I've only just told Christ friends this story partly out of shame, partly because it's absurdly funny and that is something I need.

01:03:35:13 – 01:04:00:20
I know, Christ, there's no, you got everyone's got. Listen to this, right? I mean, out there, I listen to the women. I'm not just waiting around in the street to have sex with men. Right? It's my best, right? There's just not. No matter how fucked you are, realize that, okay? If you're if you're getting free sex, you're going to pay for it in some way.

01:04:00:22 – 01:04:26:11
And yeah, if you're on the back of the moped and the hand rounds in the back literally for two seconds, you've said there's a language barrier, you know, that that's it's either that it's going to end up to you having your wallet taken or your skin taken off. One of the two is going to be broken. Yeah. So for the next hot topic, we're going to be talking about, festivals.

01:04:26:13 – 01:04:34:20
You know the drill. Send it into that anon pot at gmail.com. And until then we will see you on Monday. Cheers.