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Flav: Yeah, I um of've um took a long-winded process of becoming approved for medical cannabis. And you have to have, you meet with these doctors, the dogs doctors appear online and you have a meeting with him and there's ah what he's ah he's sort of like your dealer, but he's a consultant doctor.

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Gareth Flavell: Wow, okay. Right.

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Flav: And you say, they do everything. They do bud. They do, i've I've got some oil that I put under my tongue. If you don't want to smoke it, ah you get vape cartridges.

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Gareth Flavell: ah Oh, oh, right, okay.

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Flav: And I'm kind of part of me thinking it's not gonna be real weed though, because this is a doctor.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, it's, yeah, pharmacy, innit?

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Flav: It's a pharmacy. It's actually like you speak to a person. They talk about the things. um And yeah, yeah, so they they you can get whatever you want, purple haze.

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Flav: yes

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Gareth Flavell: No, really.

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Flav: I don't think it's called purple haze, but it's particular sound. And and and um yeah, so I've been taking this oil off my feet. So he said to me, but there's actually been a trial. This this oil had just come off a trial specifically for peripheral neuropathy that I have.

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Flav: So this is this has just come off hot off the trials.

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Gareth Flavell: ah Okay. and Good.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Good. I take it. Good. Positive results.

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Flav: I don't know. Yeah, so from the trials, apparently so, yeah. I've only done it two days. but The problem I've got, and you'll notice, is my tolerance for THD is pretty low. I've never been able to smoke weed and without having an unpleasant experience.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Ooh.

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Flav: Half a joint in the garden is one thing. my mum giving me a ah but pet making some weed cake and bringing it to my house and um I have one section of it and literally i have taken almost every drug you can think of barring crack and heroin I would say everything else I've tried stuff I don't even know the name of of I've put it my mouth I did this drug called medicine i've never I've had four capsules of it I've never seen it since or again

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Right.

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Gareth Flavell: That's correct. Where did you get it? Where did you even get it from?

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Flav: Just a mate who had it.

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Gareth Flavell: Right, okay.

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Flav: who's who's you You've met him, actually.

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Gareth Flavell: Right, okay.

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Flav: but Met him at Spurs the other day. And ah yeah, this was the most experimental mental thing I've ever done. And and ah you speak to a dealer and ask them for medicine. It's never going to happen.

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Flav: So I don't know how. I need to get more of it.

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Gareth Flavell: What, like, and even, like, on a Telegram or anything like that?

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Flav: I haven't been able to find it. I haven't actively looked, to be fair. But yeah, so some…

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Gareth Flavell: Right. Okay.

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Flav: ah um the Yeah, this medicine. And that that was like a synthetic mushroom. It was mental. Most extreme trip that I've ever had.

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Flav: But it was in you were in control of it. It weren't like, if you do too many mushrooms, you you're spangled, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: If you take too much LSD, you're in a bad way and you're not getting off for 12 hours for that.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. That's not fun.

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Flav: No, i I don't like LSD. i mean yeah I would never actively encourage anybody to do any drugs, um but I think the the calmest kind of drug and friendliest is mushrooms.

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Flav: However, they that can also be horrendously bad.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: depending on what's going on. um But I've been doing this, um cannabis is something I've never been able to tolerate. Like I said, my mum brought over that tray of weed cake. I had one bit, it folded me up.

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Flav: It folded me up. I've literally felt like my body was folding in on itself.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. I mean, I've not been that bad on weed, but I have like standard white, you know. What about back in the day? We used to we used to give it a bloody good go. Bucket bongs and all that lot.

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Flav: I know, i was thinking about that. I don't know what what happened. Maybe my mum dosed me, I don't know. that there was and what's happening, what's happening weed and most drugs affect your central nervous system.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: um And then what's happening when you feel like your your legs are… but i felt like my my legs were bending up trying to touch my head forehead. That's how fucked I was. And it's simply, it's your nerve, all your nerves misfiring because if you've you've been done too much.

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Gareth Flavell: Fuck.

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Flav: I thought I was asking, I've got to go to hospital. I've got to go hospital. This isn't right. This isn't right.

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Gareth Flavell: ah

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Flav: So you could imagine i'm quite and I'm quite cautious when taking these oils.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: Yeah. And so what is half ah half a milligram of oil under the tongue, which isn't a lot.

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Gareth Flavell: So.

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Flav: It's not a lot.

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Gareth Flavell: And do you feel, do you feel anything?

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Flav: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Like once you, to once you take it, you're like, Oh God, I feel, I feel stoned or a bit, i feel a bit.

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Flav: ah You feel with this because it's such a small amount, and like 0.5 of a milligram. There's 20 milligrams in the entire bottle. So imagine a seasoned person would be doing five milligrams, something Maybe, I don't know.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: But do half a milligram because I'm not not the seasoned.

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Gareth Flavell: Right.

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Flav: And yeah, you do after, i i don't you don't feel like I'm whacked on the, sofa and I can't move that kind of feeling although if you took more you would you just feel slightly stoned after about 45 minutes and then you're like and then I just like I'm going to go to bed and then I sleep all night but I'm waking up groggy the last few nights I'm waking up groggy I feel a bit groggy now but we like weed like ah what do you call it like a cotton head remember that

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: This is mad.

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Gareth Flavell: ah

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: yeah Yeah, that that was the that was one of the main things. i like When I was younger, from probably the age eighteen to thirty eight smoked weed every day and that that range from you know having uh building my tolerance up to being able to smoke a whole spliff stab it out roll up another one and keep going like that and then until the end it just ah like it just didn't agree with me at all as in panic attacks and so i had to knock it on the head but i thoroughly enjoyed my time smoking weed anyway the part where i was going to sleep

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Flav: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: heavily stained, I would wake up in the morning and it was so hard to get out of bed. When I did, my eyes felt so sunken into my head, no matter how many coffees and stuff, it really, it was impossible to get going in the morning.

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Gareth Flavell: Really hard to get going.

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Flav: yeah

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Gareth Flavell: at my my kind of my, ah not my mind state, but mainly like my, um,

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Gareth Flavell: focused to get ready and to know. like i know I've got to do X, Y, and Z, but it's just like, you can't really be fucked, man.

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Flav: Yeah, I might need to do it like when I get home ah like six o'clock.

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Gareth Flavell: So when when when they've dispensed this to you,

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Flav: Just come your door. Just post like like like when you order stuff on Telegram. What happens is is the man you talk to the man. was like, this is my issue. ah He goes through your notes. He checks it because I've got an official diagnosis now.

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Flav: I went to the hospital and they did tests on my legs and stuff.

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Gareth Flavell: That's good.

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Flav: and So it's not it's era it's not just me making stuff up to get free weed. you have It's not as easy as people.

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Gareth Flavell: What…

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Flav: I thought it was going to be really simple and they just they're willing new customers.

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Gareth Flavell: Right.

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Flav: For me, it was quite a long-winded process. It never felt that I wasn't going to be approved, but… they didn't you need stuff from the from the hospital you can't just go and go i feel depressed can i have some weed that's not gonna work what for my feet no like pads on your on your skin and then they sent electric pulse down a pad you know like do you remember those pens that were actually like zappers yeah sure you love those yeah it felt like that going down the leg so wasn't too bad and then they want to check your reaction so whether or not

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Gareth Flavell: Right. What were the tests? Like, needles in the leg and shit. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. Oh, God.

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Flav: You know, you get those instantly, if you belt bang your knee and your the leg kicks out, yeah that's to do with your nervous system.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: So and they just had do all those tests like that. And they said, yeah, you've got a small fiber neuropathy, basically.

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Gareth Flavell: And you've got oil, but ka you said about but like a buddage. Yeah.

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Flav: but Yeah, yeah yes but so you're talking to the guy, talking to the guy, and he's like, what how do you want to ingest this? Because the oil was specific to my condition. And it suited me.

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Flav: um i don't really want to be so smoking up spliffs around the house because the kids can smell it. Not that they haven't tried these stuff. They probably have, but I just don't i don't want i don't want it to be kind of really normal.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: um

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Gareth Flavell: I'm surprised that like smoking would be recommended.

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Flav: don't They don't recommend it. They recommend you vaporize it.

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Gareth Flavell: ah right.

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Flav: But it's just bud.

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Gareth Flavell: Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Or you can buy vape cartridges directly from them.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh, that would be, oh yeah.

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Flav: Yeah, they they where they never, ever suggest get some Rizla, get some Bakke, build up a Zoot.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Silver, kingskin, cutter's choice.

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Flav: isn' Yeah. that that No, what they offer you is ways to ingest it methods.

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Gareth Flavell: ah

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Flav: Yeah. So.

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Gareth Flavell: Fuck. ah That that um time that you said about when you ate the hash cake, ah the weed cake, my missus.

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Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: So when i used to smoke loads, I had this ah grinder and it and it had like three levels. And at the bottom had loads of the um like the dust

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Flav: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: and Is it called like key for?

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Flav: That was crystals in it.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah. Crystals key for something like that.

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Flav: ho

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Gareth Flavell: of yeah um

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Flav: It was basically the crystals off the weed would fall and you'd catch them and it had like a like a really potent powder.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: That's right. And I use that and I mixed it to make weed cakes and obviously I'm a fucking smoker and I ain't gonna fucking touch me, son. no you're dealing with. So I made these ash cakes, gave one to the miss.

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Flav: You know am, kid!

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Okay, one to the missus, one to me in the front room. And it was honestly getting up those stairs was it was like climbing El Capitan.

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Gareth Flavell: It was fucking insane. I had to leave my missus on the sofa with a bucket next to her.

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Flav: She was being sick.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: Oh, my God.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. just had to be like, I've got to go. I've got get out of here.

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Flav: You dosed her.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: yeah ah Yeah, no, it's terrible.

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Gareth Flavell: It's a bad one.

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Flav: Terrible. um but If you overdo weed, I don't think… I mean, obviously, if you overdo fentanyl, you're dead, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, that's bad.

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Flav: But you don't feel anything. You're dead.

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Gareth Flavell: No.

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Flav: ah Same with heroin. I imagine parrot pretty… ah Well, I suppose it's probably like a a euphoric way to die because…

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Gareth Flavell: ah I was going say, it'd feel quite nice, wouldn't it?

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Flav: i don't i don't but I'm not pretending to understand what dying off heroin is like, but if you're going to one way, I bet most of that feels all right.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: um Doing too much cocaine, again, come down is horrible. You can risk a heart attack for sure.

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Gareth Flavell: yeah yeah

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Flav: All those things, but… It's take too much. It's just like, oh, like maybe a bit of a panic attack, something like that. um What else? Too much ecstasy. Again, you could put yourself in a really bad way, but take too much, hospitalized.

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Flav: um But weed, you feel like you're going to die. You feel like, no, actually, I know that other people have said this, but they don't understand. This is the worst. This is the worst. um You can't die from overdosing from weed, but it feels like you're dying.

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Gareth Flavell: And I think where your brain tries to process, it's just a plant. You you can't die, but you you feel like it's the end.

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Flav: Yeah, I'm going to be the first.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: There was always a first. There's something. No one was worried about pills before Leah Betts.

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Gareth Flavell: and No, exactly.

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Flav: There's always a first one.

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Gareth Flavell: ah Oh, fuck you, no. That is absolutely… oh Yeah, I'm not… good So you going to carry on doing that?

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Flav: Yeah, for a month. I can't wake up this dog groggy generally. I need needs to get used to it.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: But you build up a tolerance, I think.

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Gareth Flavell: Tolerance. ye Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: I'd do it earlier than night, yeah, but we'll see, man.

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Gareth Flavell: We'll see. Right. Let's go with the jinx.

00:12:31.38
Gareth Flavell: Hello and welcome to Labs Anonymous, it's episode 156. I'm Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates, one main topic, but we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature, something only you know, and everything remains anonymous always, so sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast.

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Flav: Yeah,

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Gareth Flavell: How are you, apart from being tired?

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Flav: um yeah I'm all right, man. I finally get on the other side of the financial situation that I was in.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh, oh.

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Flav: Well, say financial situation, just borrowing lots of money and having to repay it back for the house um and having builders in and stuff. It's all really expensive. So, yeah, um I would reckon another month and I'll i'll ah at least be on an even, I'll be back to even apart from the money owe my dad.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Right, i yeah, and I know, but forget about that one. That's, you know, you you know you you pay it, but it's not like…

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Flav: No. Yeah, im I'm not having like the bank call me and stuff like that. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Mate, that's great news. That must be like a you know ah ah weight off your shoulders.

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Flav: It's been, yeah it's been 18 months basically of it.

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Gareth Flavell: I can imagine that's

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Gareth Flavell: that's a lot to take, to to bear on one's shoulders.

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Flav: Yeah, it's stressful.

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Gareth Flavell: And knowing you, you probably haven't ah confessed any of this to your wife or anything or to anyone that helped.

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Flav: um I mean, only in the practical sense in that we've got to stop bringing the builders back without, you know, don't just start ordering work.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: We need to discuss what work needs to be done.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: And then and and we need to build up some money before we take new work on. So that's what happened. We just stopped working on the house, which is fine because it's Liverpool, as you've seen, but.

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Gareth Flavell: Liverpool fucking hell, boy.

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Flav: Yeah, it's nice. But the it's so castle, but yeah, the it's ah it still needs work.

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Gareth Flavell: Castle.

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Flav: You sort of, it needs like painting and it needs something.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Yeah, but we're, um yeah, it's ah from having some money to then not have, well, having a house and no money wasn't as easy as I thought the stress.

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Flav: it was sort waking up at four o'clock in the morning going, how am I going to do this? But we got through it and it's all good.

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Gareth Flavell: Mate, I am pleased for you. That is ah great to hear.

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Flav: How are you?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I'm all good, mate. I'm all good. like um I think yesterday we did a pod together, but I've just checked in for my flights to Alicante.

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Gareth Flavell: So the the usual Spain holiday is going to be 10 days, end of the month. Looking forward to that and

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Flav: what what What did you think? Did no part of you go, um ah don't really want to go back to the… cause you not I understood before you had a villa there that was your grandparents.

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Gareth Flavell: m Yeah. Yeah.

00:15:11.55
Flav: Makes sense. Just go there, cheap holiday. But you could go anywhere and you're still going back to Torre Vieja.

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Gareth Flavell: Cool. So the reason why it's this it's known as the last dance. so So, yeah, we…

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Flav: One last time. both

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Gareth Flavell: we and Well, it's just going to be me and the girls, and then my mother-in-law is joining halfway through the holiday.

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Flav: So other other family members?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: No, I can't say before I take that back.

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Flav: um Okay, fair enough. Then, can you then maybe do something different than after that?

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Gareth Flavell: I will be. oh

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Flav: And maybe call me and we can arrange, we say this every year, but… you

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Gareth Flavell: yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, no i mean, so the the reason why we got like, because the the family villa sold in I don't know, let's just say April.

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Flav: I mean, we wouldn't have been able to do it this year, but…

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Gareth Flavell: And, but there was always this chance of maybe we could still go there. Is the sale going to happen and all that lot. And my kids, they've made friends over there.

00:16:10.30
Flav: Gotcha. All

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Gareth Flavell: And for the past three years, we've been going at the same time as another family. The kids hang around at the pool and we just get on with it and stuff.

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Flav: right.

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Gareth Flavell: So that is why it's going to be the kind of the the last dance for that one, which is great.

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Flav: Fair enough.

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Gareth Flavell: And I want to say bye to it. And, and all of that, and they're going to be working on my grandparents' hold villa.

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Flav: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: So I'd like to just have a little wo look see how that's going, and I checked in with the Airbnb, giving them my documents and all that. so looking ah forward to that.

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Flav: Where is it? Torrevieja or Torre…

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Gareth Flavell: to Yeah, Torrevieja, yeah.

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Flav: term

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Flav: a Nice little beach, isn't Oh, you're going be going in the water now when definitely no great whites are in the med?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh, mate, fucking hell, fucking hell.

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Flav: do you ever go Do you go in the sea?

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Gareth Flavell: ah thigh, height, actually, maybe a little bit up to, maybe say, stomach, stomach disease.

00:16:59.45
Flav: Do you not go snorkelling and stuff?

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Gareth Flavell: Fuck off, no way.

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Flav: What? Why? why but It's funny we assume we're talking about this today, aren't we?

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Gareth Flavell: But I just, I don't know, I don't want to go under the water.

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Flav: but the they on um when When I went to… It's a kid's favourite holiday, right? This is mad. You think of all the places you want to go and all the wonderful places you could go.

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Gareth Flavell: yeah. yeah

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Flav: But they love Benidorm. They want to go back to Benidorm.

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Gareth Flavell: No, do they?

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Flav: Yeah, they they just thought Benidorm was great. Great fun. Loads to do. Loads kids. Other kids. I know they're a lot younger. We talked about 67 years ago we went. But yeah, arcades and stuff. It's like everything they want.

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Flav: So I don't want.

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Gareth Flavell: No, the the thing is, like, when you're a parent, you just want what's best for your kids and you take that you take the back seat and you're like,

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Flav: i don't want at all.

00:17:46.60
Flav: You want?

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Flav: You want, well, you want them to be entertained.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:17:51.02
Flav: That's the thing. There's a bored kid around you. who is nothing more irritating than a bored teenager just sitting around you.

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Gareth Flavell: No.

00:17:56.38
Flav: I understand you're bored. Go and be bored somewhere else. You don't have to be bored here, do you?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: You be bored over there.

00:18:01.44
Gareth Flavell: It a tennis ball. Fuck off.

00:18:02.65
Flav: is ah um but but But we went to the beach, Rick, obviously, because that's what Benidorm is, one long, massive beach.

00:18:07.16
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:18:09.69
Gareth Flavell: It is, yeah.

00:18:10.27
Flav: It's well long, it's well long, fucking long beach.

00:18:11.06
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:18:13.85
Flav: ah Me and me and we Will go out snorkelling for about an hour. you go Because basically it's shallow and very it goes up quite far and the rock the rock rocky edge runs along a good 100 feet out to sea.

00:18:27.48
Flav: So even when you get to the edge of the rocky ledge where it starts to get deeper, is you're still in relative shallow water like, I don't know, like seven feet of water.

00:18:27.61
Gareth Flavell: and

00:18:31.58
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:18:40.18
Gareth Flavell: Right, but knowing what you know about shallowness and that's still… Hang on a second. Have you got one of the… Because they've got those new entire face masks with the…

00:18:51.95
Flav: The kids had those.

00:18:52.94
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, they're cool.

00:18:53.40
Flav: Yeah, yeah they are cool. and The ones you get in on the front at Benidorm, they kind of let water in and they're not the best.

00:19:02.58
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, the goggles that are really tight and your eyes are going to pop out you're like, fucked.

00:19:05.94
Flav: ah Yeah, but when I went to Croatia, went you know don no I googled, has there ever been any shark attacks in the Adriatic? That's what googled anyway. And there'd been one about 100 years ago, and that was it.

00:19:23.64
Flav: But that one, 100 years ago, I'm still thinking, where they're in they're in their war, though.

00:19:23.96
Gareth Flavell: Safe. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:27.92
Flav: They're in there. And actually, the great w there was a Great White spotted feeding, and that was in the Adriatic.

00:19:35.67
Gareth Flavell: Wow.

00:19:35.93
Flav: which is the Adriatic Sea goes down between Croatia and Italy and into the Med.

00:19:41.50
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:19:42.30
Flav: um So yeah, you know, it's in there. but But because I know what I know and you know what you know, you know that you're um you're not, there isn't going to great white coming up to the shore in Spain.

00:19:48.06
Gareth Flavell: o

00:19:56.15
Gareth Flavell: Right. Okay. Yeah. And that's fine.

00:19:58.39
Flav: There's always a first time. There has been a lot of shark attacks recently. There's been hundreds.

00:20:01.52
Gareth Flavell: it's It's been mad.

00:20:03.09
Flav: It's kicking off big time.

00:20:03.83
Gareth Flavell: it It is kicking off.

00:20:05.14
Flav: Fucking crocodillos getting involved as well now.

00:20:05.31
Gareth Flavell: water yeah it

00:20:07.10
Flav: Aren't they? Cheeky cunt. What would you rather if you was in the sea and you've got a great white looking at you or a crocodile swimming at you?

00:20:16.95
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:20:18.54
Flav: Saltwater. What would you prefer?

00:20:19.51
Gareth Flavell: Oh, my God. um I think I'd probably have to go great why

00:20:26.61
Flav: Yes.

00:20:27.54
Gareth Flavell: Because you know it's going to be like, it's going to nick an artery straight away. Tell you another way. It's going to be quicker than a crocodile.

00:20:35.31
Flav: I think you can we can make this scenario about the normal behavior of both. And so you might not get attacked by the Great White. It might swim around you. It might circle. You might decide, actually, i don't want to engage with this for X, Y, and zd And if you ever watch the Malibu Artist on YouTube, I watch everything he posts, post brings out.

00:20:47.54
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:20:55.51
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:20:56.38
Flav: And it's most all most of his work now, most of his work is just sending drones out in California.

00:21:02.01
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:21:02.64
Flav: Where's Malibu? I feel like it's California.

00:21:05.21
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, it's California, yeah, yeah

00:21:05.28
Flav: don't know. Right. Yeah. he's in California and he's just drones with like kids on boogie boards and behind him is like a 12 foot great white.

00:21:14.46
Gareth Flavell: yeah.

00:21:14.90
Flav: ah but they never attack.

00:21:15.06
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:21:16.70
Flav: He's never caught an attack on his on his GoPro and he's been filming for five or six years. And there was constantly sharks around people in there.

00:21:25.30
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:21:25.34
Flav: It's it's top down, clear water. And there's like 13 great whites in this area.

00:21:30.78
Gareth Flavell: what What I love now is because people do this, and not just him, there's quite a few people that send drones up, but you'll see like fishermen or you'll see people just like kind of, ah they've got a boat for the day and they're swimming out to sea.

00:21:46.33
Gareth Flavell: People will see drones and they're like oh, fuck, look, there's a drone. And it's really, fuck, and the penny drops.

00:21:50.65
Flav: At

00:21:51.86
Gareth Flavell: They know why that drone's there.

00:21:53.93
Flav: least they know where the shark's there.

00:21:54.97
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:55.96
Flav: um No, it's… it's ah it's It's a strange situation you find ourselves in because ah everybody's got GoPros now. So we're seeing loads more that we never saw.

00:22:05.24
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:22:07.32
Flav: Like when I was a kid, the idea that the closest I could get to a shark is if they had a shark program on BBC, like Attenborough might have done something about the blue planet or something, or a program about gravity great white sharks.

00:22:14.68
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

00:22:21.43
Flav: and back then obviously you'd have to write down the time and remember when it was on so you didn't miss it um because there's nothing else you could have a record ah record it on a on a um vcr or something but anyway um but now you open your phone and people send me 10 sharp videos a day like that one the the one that got me the most recently was the

00:22:25.53
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:22:39.06
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:22:46.09
Flav: The kid, and these the is he's in like, i don't know where he is in the world, but where there are big sharks, and he's fishing off this kayak, which it seems to be a thing, like ocean fishing on kayaks and stuff like that.

00:22:58.10
Gareth Flavell: yeah i know i just want to say i hate those people

00:23:03.03
Flav: Yeah.

00:23:06.58
Flav: What, the their lack of fear?

00:23:08.31
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, what like you're you're in the middle of the ocean, right?

00:23:11.16
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:11.47
Gareth Flavell: You're on a fucking kayak. It's just you. It's not like you're with other people.

00:23:16.01
Flav: it's not that that isn't going to withstand a a direct hit from like a so so great white so people that don't know the ambush predators and and ideally you're for them they want to hit you before you even see them so often people are swimming and then they are smashed by a great white from below they're not like tiger sharks which are much more sort of come up and are more inquisitive and

00:23:33.02
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:23:39.19
Flav: might bite you and then go yum. Whereas great whites are like smash and then they'll wait for you to bleed out and then eat you. Typically, that's how they they do it. um If it finally hit a bottom of a kayak, it would obliterate it and you're just in the water.

00:23:50.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:23:52.54
Flav: So not only…

00:23:52.66
Gareth Flavell: Then what are you going to

00:23:54.55
Flav: Yeah, no, that's it. If it decides to eat you, there's not much you can do.

00:23:57.85
Gareth Flavell: Now what?

00:23:58.71
Flav: Now, and you're miles away from shore. You know there's a shark in the water and what are your options? When there's black bait in the water, you've been fishing.

00:24:05.69
Gareth Flavell: Oh, God.

00:24:08.35
Flav: it…

00:24:08.47
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:09.18
Flav: yeah So he's he's got fishing rods and nave's he has live bait on his rod to catch, don't know, whatever you catch out there, tuna or all those, anything in the sea, basically.

00:24:14.65
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:24:17.49
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it it could be anything. yeah

00:24:22.97
Flav: And so, and he is, he if he's older than 15, I'd be amazed. Then he's out on this water on his own.

00:24:28.57
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:24:29.24
Flav: And you you hear him with his good, he goes, what? the heck He doesn't swear throughout the whole video. And there is this giant great white.

00:24:36.06
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:24:36.12
Flav: It's like mature. So you can see the top of it is is blue. They're a dark blue. And the bottom is the you know really white stomach.

00:24:45.66
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:24:47.19
Flav: Do you know why they have that?

00:24:49.45
Gareth Flavell: No.

00:24:49.91
Flav: It's like camouflage. So if you're looking from below, you can't see the white belly. You can see it but it's hard to see.

00:24:55.86
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:24:56.50
Flav: And you're looking from below, you can't see because it's it sort of reflects what the light above. That's why they're like that.

00:25:03.42
Gareth Flavell: Dirty bastards. Fucking hell.

00:25:04.61
Flav: Cheeky busses.

00:25:05.30
Gareth Flavell: Yes, that's fucking great. That

00:25:07.51
Flav: And so he sees this shark and he's like, great white, great white, fucking huge, for hecking huge great white. He goes, I'm getting out of here. When he's out, there's nowhere out of there. It's just a rock face.

00:25:20.44
Gareth Flavell: Oh, I know the one you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:22.17
Flav: And the shark follows him for about, it's a four and a half minute video.

00:25:25.53
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:25:26.23
Flav: And this shark is on his ass.

00:25:28.41
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:25:28.89
Flav: I mean, it's not, it's sort of, I wouldn't say chasing because the shark could swim faster in the kayak, but it's just following. Oh man, imagine being in that situation. He cuts the live bait off. took its

00:25:37.59
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. so So with that as well, and um what I read is well about that, he had kayaked to near these islands or something, and it was like an hour away from where he was.

00:25:48.50
Flav: Yeah, it took him it took him about an hour to get home.

00:25:49.21
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:25:51.86
Flav: And all the water time you're looking in the water, which is, and you're in the kayak, you're sitting in the water pretty much.

00:25:57.66
Gareth Flavell: I mean, not why would you do that?

00:26:00.12
Flav: I don't know.

00:26:00.15
Gareth Flavell: I can't get it through my head. And the bit where he's like, he's rowing away and he throws the bottle. He's got a drinking bottle.

00:26:08.22
Flav: Yeah.

00:26:08.34
Gareth Flavell: And because the great white shark is interested in like his, um, He hasn't got an engine, but whatever's steers.

00:26:14.58
Flav: right in In the rudder, he's in the rudder.

00:26:15.67
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. The rudder, it. The rudder. Um, and he's like, fuck it's the the great white shark is looking at the rudder and fascinated by it. He's trying to get away. And then he throws a water bottle up behind him, so hoping that that would kind of distract it.

00:26:29.14
Flav: Distract the shark.

00:26:30.07
Gareth Flavell: And it does for a little bit. And then it just starts tailing him again. I read as well that because he's near quite quite near an Island, and um, And I'm, yeah, and I'm thinking, mate, just fucking row to the island and just get on it and just wait for the shark to go.

00:26:38.55
Flav: Yeah, you see it in the background.

00:26:47.09
Gareth Flavell: You're saved. And he said, the closer you get to that island, the more that a great white shark from underneath would think you're a seal.

00:26:55.26
Flav: i

00:26:56.06
Gareth Flavell: So he was like, I'm not going anywhere near that island.

00:26:59.19
Flav: ah so he's in easeies So I just found it, right, as you were talking there. I didn't know that. So um on 30th of January 2025, Wales was kayak fishing off the coast of Northland, New Zealand, targeting yellowtail kingfish with a live bait trailing behind his kayak. He initially thought a kingfish was chasing his bait, but turned around to discover a 4.5 meter, that's massive, 15 feet, great white shark directly behind him.

00:27:26.86
Flav: Realising the shark had been interested in his kayak and the bait, he cut the bait loose and began paddling for shore. The shark followed him for around eight minutes at time, swimming close to the rudder and circling beneath him.

00:27:38.02
Flav: Throughout the ordeal, his head-mounted camera captured his nervously talking to the shark, saying, please leave me alone, bro. Please don't attack me. Wales kept calm, avoiding making sudden movements, and continued paddling until the shark eventually lost interest, and he reached the shore unharmed.

00:27:53.56
Gareth Flavell: Can you imagine eight minutes of going through that?

00:27:56.78
Flav: Nah. And it says to Shaw, like you said, there wasn't a beach near him. He had to go around the island to find the beach.

00:28:05.66
Gareth Flavell: God, I just don't get it.

00:28:07.02
Flav: Legend though, man. What a legend. He's 19. He sounds young as well.

00:28:09.85
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:28:10.20
Flav: Might sound a lot younger than that.

00:28:11.26
Gareth Flavell: If you've not, a i um because this is an an amazing clip, I will but i'll put it in the pod details and you have to watch it. It's fucking incredible.

00:28:19.74
Flav: If you can find the longest one, then that that would be great.

00:28:21.46
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:28:22.74
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:22.87
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, for sure. um So we need to talk about this Medchark as well, the the spotting of it.

00:28:28.28
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:30.16
Gareth Flavell: So we've been speaking about great whites in the Mediterranean, that, you know, they have been there, not really been spotted. i mean, the fishermen say that I saw a great white and there's been a lot of tails, but there hasn't been anything actually physically recorded, has there?

00:28:46.73
Gareth Flavell: Not visually,

00:28:47.32
Flav: ah only Only there has been a couple of things where you see juvenile great whites in between, well, where this shark was spotted, actually, um in between Tunisia and the bottom of Sicily, which is, yeah, so in in that area, that has historically been known to be kind of a nursery for great white sharks.

00:29:01.40
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:29:10.17
Flav: However, they know that they're there, but they haven't seen them. There was this footage about 18 months ago, a appeared a great white shark was at the surface chewing on something, found a turtle or something like that.

00:29:21.78
Gareth Flavell: Oh, fuck, really?

00:29:22.71
Flav: But it was a small one, whereas this was an, I think it was an adult male, was it?

00:29:26.46
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:29:28.76
Flav: Not sure. Yeah.

00:29:29.69
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I think it was a male, actually.

00:29:31.77
Flav: Yeah.

00:29:32.22
Gareth Flavell: but um So these divers had dived to a, I believe it was a shipwreck, and they were clearing fishing nets from the shipwreck.

00:29:40.89
Flav: Correct, yeah.

00:29:41.59
Gareth Flavell: And they were the guy was just recording, and then just out of the out of the ocean…

00:29:48.54
Flav: Huge great work.

00:29:49.46
Gareth Flavell: comes cruising a big great white, big male great white. And the video footage, it's not fucking grainy. It's not waving around.

00:29:58.36
Flav: No, 100% a great work, yeah.

00:29:58.54
Gareth Flavell: It's not, I don't know what it is. What could it be? It's so clear. Now, knowing that that is swimming in the meds, um And, you know, the global warming, there's been a lot of different kind of climate changes within the sea, ah the the way the the temperature of the sea is raised, and i can't remember what it's what it's called now, but there's… There's something happening in America where the the ah maybe the the cold water is mixing with the warm water and it's happens it normally happens in April or something, but it's happened a lot earlier. But there's been a lot of great white sharks spotted.

00:30:37.14
Gareth Flavell: Now, with all this being said, and this video footage, do you think that there might be an increased amount of great white sharks that we would see near our shores.

00:30:44.99
Flav: The…

00:30:52.09
Gareth Flavell: Not as in your inkcorwa you're Cornwall, you're going, you're fucking paddling in your ankles.

00:30:55.64
Flav: what the the minute the the the d m

00:31:03.70
Flav: the the the the The temperatures around Cornwall, certainly in the summer, and the pilt seal population means there should be great whites there. but There's nothing wrong with the circuit the the the environment.

00:31:17.49
Flav: It's just that they've never been or haven't been seen. but If you think about how closely related like the salmon shark and the mako is to a great white, and they are regularly seen in the water.

00:31:25.11
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:27.90
Flav: Do you what mean? so And we know that what a huge shark was caught in ah Malta in malta ah in the 80s.

00:31:33.30
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:31:36.10
Flav: It was considered to be the biggest great white ever caught, although having read about it more recently, they think that the it was a massive exaggeration, but it was a huge shark.

00:31:45.18
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:31:45.59
Flav: Like they said, 23 feet, which is, you know, that's the size of jaws in the film, jaws 25 feet. So um you've seen the pictures, haven't you, of of that shark hanging?

00:31:55.10
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, have, yeah.

00:31:56.47
Flav: And that's, you know, that's closer to Sicily than it is Tunisia.

00:32:00.63
Gareth Flavell: That's fucking mental.

00:32:01.75
Flav: So, yeah, I do think… the The scientist said, who who videoed it said, like, this is like ah light lightning strike, you know, winning the lottery. is

00:32:10.65
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:32:11.70
Flav: The chances of you ever seeing one of these is just nothing. But they're eating something.

00:32:17.40
Gareth Flavell: Like, you going on holiday and doing the snuggle, mate, okay, right, right, right, no. but that the chances are very, you know, almost impossible.

00:32:29.14
Gareth Flavell: But with the temperatures changing, do you think we'll see, like, because in America and Australia, you you regularly get people walking their dogs and they'll look out to the coast and they'll see a great white shark fin.

00:32:42.39
Flav: Yeah.

00:32:42.82
Gareth Flavell: They'll see the shadows. Do you think we'll eventually get to a place where sharks, bigger sharks, will will come closer to where we are?

00:32:48.50
Flav: Big sharks.

00:32:52.12
Flav: ah I don't know. ah ah not thinking like in terms of like bull sharks and and and tiger sharks and… um You know, they they they require a certain climate and I'm not sure we'll ever get to that.

00:33:10.84
Flav: Not in our lifetimes.

00:33:10.84
Gareth Flavell: o

00:33:12.49
Flav: But Great White it should be here already.

00:33:14.84
Gareth Flavell: Do you…

00:33:16.57
Flav: I'd love it.

00:33:16.68
Gareth Flavell: I hope, yeah, do you hope there's a little bit of…

00:33:18.36
Flav: Absolutely. Imagine how incredible that would be.

00:33:22.92
Gareth Flavell: Oh, mate, I'd love it. ah ah It's one of my dreams to see a great white in the sea. are not not like If I had the opportunity to go cage diving, I would like to say I'd pay my money, I'd get in a wetsuit, I'd have my legs dangled off, ready to get in the cage, ah but I know i would be like, I can't do this.

00:33:34.52
Flav: Yeah.

00:33:44.79
Gareth Flavell: I literally cannot do this.

00:33:46.36
Flav: Yeah.

00:33:47.00
Gareth Flavell: I would shit it. There there is no chance would do it.

00:33:51.32
Flav: ah You would.

00:33:53.23
Gareth Flavell: Oh, mate, it's fucking mental.

00:33:56.92
Flav: I don't know, man. You've got to.

00:33:57.82
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah,

00:34:00.00
Flav: I liked it when, like, know when these celebrities, when they went shark fishing?

00:34:04.60
Gareth Flavell: yeah, yeah. Yeah.

00:34:05.50
Flav: they No, not shark fishing.

00:34:05.73
Gareth Flavell: No, no, fuck that.

00:34:06.42
Flav: Experiencing with sharks. I loved that. um and But I was really jealous that they got to do these things. Except a bit swimming through a shipwreck. that That bit I wouldn't have liked.

00:34:17.60
Flav: It's all dark.

00:34:17.79
Gareth Flavell: nay no fuck that

00:34:19.96
Flav: And there's like, there was two sharks in there. Not bull sharks, but I'm in danger, but still fucking, not the last thing you want to see in pitch black with just a torch.

00:34:27.94
Gareth Flavell: Oh, fucking hell. Fuck that. where like We love, obviously, love great white sharks. Just been speaking about it. Orcas.

00:34:38.42
Gareth Flavell: Now, i know a lot of people that come out and they say orcas are the king of the ocean. And I don't want to believe that.

00:34:45.14
Flav: Yeah.

00:34:46.96
Gareth Flavell: Okay.

00:34:47.22
Flav: Well, you you want sharks to be?

00:34:47.52
Gareth Flavell: what whatever Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Great white sharks. Number one for me. Just because we've seen a couple of orcas attack a great white it doesn't mean anything, right? But you can't deny that Orcas are…

00:35:01.08
Flav: Yeah, they are top they are top of the apex predators. They are at top.

00:35:04.12
Gareth Flavell: Oh, um don't say that.

00:35:04.64
Flav: In terms of the ocean, they are number one for sure. Yeah. and what's interesting about them is that they don't even… Only four people have have been killed by an orca.

00:35:16.47
Gareth Flavell: Wow, really? Really?

00:35:17.50
Flav: Yeah, and all of them are in captivity. There's never been a single documented attack on a human being, or at least seen attack on a human being, ever, from an orca.

00:35:28.59
Gareth Flavell: That's fucking mental.

00:35:29.75
Flav: It is, isn't it? It's like, what, why, surely they're, mean, sharks typically, apparently, according to research, are much more likely to have thought you were something else in the ocean than thinking I'm actually going be hunting human beings.

00:35:45.36
Flav: Whereas they would want to hunt seals. You might think the amount of fat and blubber on a seal, the amount of calories that are in in a seal compared to humans.

00:35:56.31
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:35:57.69
Flav: But with orcas, they must know the difference because it's not there's not even been…

00:36:01.19
Gareth Flavell: that they are really clever, really clever. Like, have you seen that the, um, those orcas that have been coordinating attacks on boats?

00:36:10.07
Flav: Yeah, love that. That was during so during lockdown.

00:36:12.44
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:36:13.21
Flav: They went away, didn't they?

00:36:14.71
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:36:15.45
Flav: And then when the boats came back, they were like, this is better without you lot.

00:36:19.42
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:36:20.41
Flav: And it's just a gang of orcas. It's not all of them. Do you know some orcas have traditions due to their pod, where some of them would wear salmon as hats.

00:36:24.11
Gareth Flavell: It's mental.

00:36:34.03
Flav: I've told you about this before, I'm pretty sure.

00:36:35.83
Gareth Flavell: No.

00:36:36.95
Flav: ah yeah I've told you about this, Ricky.

00:36:38.32
Gareth Flavell: Mate, come on.

00:36:39.77
Flav: Right.

00:36:39.90
Gareth Flavell: salmons Salmon's as hats.

00:36:41.53
Flav: Yeah, listen to this. so

00:36:42.75
Gareth Flavell: Fucking hell, this is…

00:36:44.15
Flav: yeah yeah So this doesn't exist throughout all orcas, just a certain trendy group of orcas that like to wear hats when they're swimming around.

00:36:48.66
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:36:54.84
Flav: So this, so I might be getting this wrong. Cause might find that the actual true story, but it was first observed in the eighties and then it stopped happening. And when I say stopped, they're wearing like a dead bit of salmon on the top of their head.

00:37:09.21
Flav: And there's like 10 of them all doing it. and they're all swimming around with with salmon hats and then it stopped happening.

00:37:14.14
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:37:15.86
Flav: And then it was observed again, about 30 years later, so so type in orca salmon hat is amazing.

00:37:22.81
Gareth Flavell: this is i can't believe that i've i'm doing it now so orca a salmon hat this is fucking

00:37:27.45
Flav: you looking at it

00:37:37.59
Gareth Flavell: what what how like why what i don't i don't understand do you think it's kind of like a a trophy to say i caught this fish or it's like um a greeting to each other to say like, we've got food here or what, like that's fucking mental.

00:37:37.79
Flav: it? Are you feeling that's AI? It's not. Well, somebody's a bit.

00:37:51.16
Flav: It said… It says this, the orca salmon hat refers to a bizarre and highly documented cultural fad observed in wild orca populations, lick particularly the southern resident killer whales in the Pacific Northwest where they swim around balancing dead salmon on their heads like hats.

00:37:54.70
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:38:08.63
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:38:09.43
Flav: the first documented this is first documented in the summer of 1987 when a female orca began balancing a dead fish on her head they that the look quickly spread like a viral fashion trend through multiple pods just as quickly as it started the craze faded out by by the following year however after a 37 year hiatus the trend made a surprising comeback when wow watchers spotted an orca reviving the bizarre behavior Because orcas are highly social and intelligent, scientists believe the behaviour is an example of a learned orca culture, while researchers aren't entirely certain of the motive.

00:38:41.55
Flav: Theories suggest it could be playfulness, prey abundance, way a way of showing off their hunting success, or to signal higher food availability to other whales.

00:38:47.54
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:38:53.67
Gareth Flavell: Mate, they are, they they're clever bastards, aren't they?

00:38:56.89
Flav: Yeah, I'm into that.

00:38:58.46
Gareth Flavell: Have you seen them in the sea where they're where they're playing, but they, um like, they'll swim down or swim next to a turtle or a fish, and they'll use their tail to whack it, to stun it, and they're just, like, kind of like, or a a seal or whatever.

00:39:08.63
Flav: Yeah, yeah, all right.

00:39:13.52
Flav: I saw the one, yeah, I've seen that, and it goes flying in the air, like 50 feet in the air.

00:39:15.99
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:39:17.62
Flav: Also, i was watching a video the other day, and a bloke was taking a picture of a a dolphin, couple of dolphins, and dolphin sort of teed this fish up, and with its fin, just whacked it straight at the bloke who was recording, hit him in the face.

00:39:31.26
Flav: So fucking hell, just happened there.

00:39:32.76
Gareth Flavell: The sea is a great place.

00:39:33.04
Flav: Hmm.

00:39:34.44
Gareth Flavell: Good, good place. um Have you, I don't know if, what's the difference between ah an orca and a killer whale?

00:39:41.98
Flav: say

00:39:42.52
Gareth Flavell: Right, okay. Have you seen them in, because they are found in locks in Scotland, didn't they?

00:39:48.69
Flav: No, that's't that's not real. So, hey, are you?

00:39:51.06
Gareth Flavell: What? Oh, no, don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that.

00:39:55.06
Flav: are you doing in there, you bastard? No, that's sir not in Scotland. It's a voiceover in Scotland.

00:40:01.40
Gareth Flavell: um That is fucking disappointing.

00:40:03.16
Flav: I thought as well, I checked with Stu. I mean, this might sound strange. Is he lock? He's like, no. is that there

00:40:11.86
Gareth Flavell: That is disappointing.

00:40:12.41
Flav: Yeah. Where you? are you?

00:40:16.47
Gareth Flavell: thought they were paddle boarding. That is really disappointing. the yeah The next thing on the list that I want to discuss is… I think this is the biggest…

00:40:28.86
Gareth Flavell: Maybe the blue whale.

00:40:31.45
Flav: yeah big boy, yeah.

00:40:31.58
Gareth Flavell: So blue whales bigger than a dinosaur, heart the size of a small car and its tongue weighs more than an elephant.

00:40:44.21
Flav: ah

00:40:45.88
Gareth Flavell: How does something like that exist? How does it, how does it swim? If your tongue is the same weight as an, as an elephant,

00:40:55.84
Flav: Do you know it's down to 99%? We're down to 1% of the total population because of how many, during the 19th century, how much whaling went on for oils and stuff like that.

00:41:07.05
Flav: That's why critically endangered now.

00:41:07.69
Gareth Flavell: Oh.

00:41:10.33
Gareth Flavell: Critical.

00:41:10.36
Flav: So there is orcas in locks that are accessed to sea.

00:41:14.20
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:41:15.05
Flav: but not locks that are landlocked.

00:41:17.08
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:18.90
Flav: But yes, they're the saltwater locks. here They do enter. Just checking.

00:41:22.96
Gareth Flavell: Oh, good, good. No, no, it's good. But, um yeah, Blue Whales, man. i

00:41:28.54
Flav: ah Mental, isn't it?

00:41:31.10
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, the the the sheer size of them, again, like I was saying, I would love to go out on a boat and see a great white. To see something the size of a blue whale when you're out in a boat, I don't think, I think, i genuinely, I think I'd probably have a heart attack.

00:41:47.29
Flav: you know You know, it's so mental. I thought that that like a fish that big and all they eat is krill, which is like this tiny little shrimp.

00:41:56.44
Gareth Flavell: Shrimp.

00:41:56.50
Flav: It's like, that's it, mate.

00:41:56.82
Gareth Flavell: Shrimp.

00:41:59.00
Flav: That's all you can eat.

00:42:00.18
Gareth Flavell: It must be starving.

00:42:02.50
Flav: It's just…

00:42:02.66
Gareth Flavell: it's so fucking… Just go and eat something bigger.

00:42:04.89
Flav: yeah the and and And fucking basking sharks are swimming around with mouthfeet. You're eating plankton. You can't even see the food.

00:42:09.02
Gareth Flavell: Plankton.

00:42:10.94
Flav: Fucking mental.

00:42:12.89
Gareth Flavell: That is…

00:42:13.30
Flav: Um…

00:42:13.39
Gareth Flavell: What is that? Yeah.

00:42:15.06
Flav: don't know. It's just the way they do things. is that's what you look The glorious nature, the the sort of balance of nature, isn't it? Do you know what I mean? I'm going to be the second biggest fish in the sea.

00:42:26.39
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:42:27.22
Flav: The two biggest sharks in the sea all are plankton feeders. You've got the whale shark and you've got the basking shark.

00:42:34.08
Gareth Flavell: Basket and shark.

00:42:35.45
Flav: and they And all what they do is eat food that is so small you can't see it. Do you know what used to fascinate me as a kid? i remember having this um book about the depths and then at the back of the book, when were kids in the 80s, you'd sometimes have like stickers and there'd be a page within the book, the child's book, the kid's book, where you'd create your own image using the stickers.

00:42:50.81
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:42:57.57
Flav: So of background would be like under the ocean and the floor.

00:42:59.51
Gareth Flavell: Right. Okay.

00:43:00.41
Flav: And then you put the stickers where you think the animals might live.

00:43:03.54
Gareth Flavell: Was it one of the, you know, the stickers, was it like those clear stickers that they're kind of like, they not got real hard sticking back, but you can peel them off and put them on.

00:43:10.78
Flav: No, you can take peel them off. and Yeah, exactly.

00:43:12.52
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:13.08
Flav: was one of them books.

00:43:13.20
Gareth Flavell: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

00:43:14.84
Flav: They don't have him anymore, don't think. But in the 80s, they were really popular because we didn't have fuck all them. But ah but the what fascinated me the most was the battles that sperm whales and um giant squid would have.

00:43:19.58
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:43:29.21
Gareth Flavell: right

00:43:29.27
Flav: The only thing that can hunt a giant squid. There's two things that can hunt a giant squid because of the depth of which they're found. The pressure down there is insane.

00:43:37.14
Gareth Flavell: Right. Yeah.

00:43:39.38
Flav: is the sperm whale who can dive really, really deep and goes down for hunting for squid.

00:43:45.94
Gareth Flavell: Shit.

00:43:47.03
Flav: And then there is a swordfish.

00:43:50.97
Gareth Flavell: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:52.15
Flav: Swordfish also hunt giant squid.

00:43:55.61
Gareth Flavell: I mean, yeah little cheeky little head, but yeah, fuck it now.

00:43:57.82
Flav: There, they jab them, will they?

00:44:01.35
Flav: Jook them up. That actually fascinated me. They go into the depths where there's no light and he's going down there to find a fucking giant squid to eat it. That's fucking ballsy.

00:44:11.45
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, mate. When I think about it, the, see, I've got this, ah where is it? We've got here somewhere. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? It's about the sea. We've explored less than 10% of the ocean.

00:44:29.21
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:30.20
Gareth Flavell: What do you think is actually down there? Now, do you think?

00:44:32.81
Flav: They've seen everything.

00:44:35.84
Flav: When they say explored, what does that mean? You mean we humans have been in only 10%? They've sent robots down and looked at stuff, didn't they?

00:44:40.92
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, it sent robots down, but I think like due to ah like mapping, we've we've mapped like the moon and sent scanners up there and all that lot, but only 10% of the ocean, ocean floor and all of that stuff.

00:44:44.52
Flav: Man, man.

00:44:47.77
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:54.01
Gareth Flavell: But there must be other things down there.

00:44:54.87
Flav: Yeah.

00:44:57.85
Gareth Flavell: like ah ah' I'm not saying there's a megalodon hiding down there, but there surely has to be things that are that we've not seen down there.

00:44:57.99
Flav: Probably…

00:45:10.42
Flav: I think more like, yes, there would be. um But it's more like the smaller animals, right? You know, there's not going to megalodon. That said, like, we've only mapped, I've just Googled here, we've only mapped 28.7% of the ocean floor.

00:45:25.88
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:45:26.81
Flav: And the in in terms of what we've explored ourselves, it's 0.01% of the ocean floor. the action floor

00:45:35.10
Gareth Flavell: Fucking hell. See, like, you know when they send those cameras down and you're watching stuff and all that, and then you've got um giant squid and colossal squid.

00:45:39.80
Flav: yeah

00:45:46.10
Gareth Flavell: ah ah there's been a few cases where they haven't had, well, they found giant ones, really. they've They've never had them on camera before. They've always found them washed up dead and stuff like I've never seen them in their own environment.

00:46:01.08
Gareth Flavell: So there's very few cases of them being on camera alive down there.

00:46:01.16
Flav: Yeah.

00:46:07.16
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:46:08.22
Gareth Flavell: And have you like have you seen that? I can't remember. I think it's the colossal squid. Like their eyes are like the size of dinner plates.

00:46:11.84
Flav: Very creepy. yeah very creepy

00:46:17.05
Gareth Flavell: And they they can fucking, they like, they go on submarines and they attack anything. They're right crazy cunts.

00:46:24.47
Flav: Yeah, they are. I used to like that. That was my favorite. Squids and the sperm sperm whales having it with each other. Because the sperm whales would come up and there'd be huge scars on their head where they've got serrated suckers, haven't they?

00:46:37.40
Gareth Flavell: Fuck, yeah.

00:46:38.70
Flav: You've seen that with all the circular scars on their head.

00:46:40.15
Gareth Flavell: ya yeah, yeah.

00:46:41.94
Flav: Yeah, man. I love the ocean. I'm terrified of it more. and bo as But I'm sort of terrified of sharks. But that's where interest comes from, isn't it? It's fear. don't know.

00:46:53.14
Gareth Flavell: yeah Well, I mean, do like do you think that's why we do have this kind of a fascination with the ocean because of the fear of it

00:46:59.79
Flav: Yeah. I think the same with… Yeah, yeah. It's like these nutty Australians. Like, what's been happening in over there? It's like the crocodilos killing people, ripped off a woman two women's arms.

00:47:09.75
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:47:11.70
Flav: There was a man who got dragged out.

00:47:11.74
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:47:14.14
Flav: i was trying I did a terrible thing because I was trying to find… There's apparently a video. I don't know why I wanted to watch it, but I typed in crocodile attack on um on on Instagram.

00:47:27.92
Flav: I wouldn't recommend There's been loads more than you think.

00:47:29.42
Gareth Flavell: What is it? Yeah.

00:47:34.14
Flav: those There's been lots caught on camera, yeah.

00:47:36.54
Gareth Flavell: yeah Oh God. I'm going to have to do that after we finish it That is yeah.

00:47:39.79
Flav: Why are you?

00:47:40.54
Gareth Flavell: Right up my street. That is right up my street.

00:47:43.25
Flav: That's why they're screaming and the bloke's got his arm and it just rolls and the arm comes out.

00:47:48.44
Gareth Flavell: Oh my God.

00:47:49.82
Flav: Yeah, no, it's pretty…

00:47:50.30
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. that That's, that is a bit, that's close.

00:47:52.70
Flav: So we didn't answer the question at the beginning of the pod, right?

00:47:52.74
Gareth Flavell: That's close.

00:47:55.33
Flav: It's what would you'd rather come up against. ah You're in the water, deep water.

00:48:00.12
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:48:01.34
Flav: It's 100% a great way.

00:48:03.26
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:48:03.29
Flav: you don't Saltwater crocodile, you don't want them anywhere near you

00:48:06.40
Gareth Flavell: No. And the thing is with a saltwater crocodile, like when it grabs hold of you and it's bite pressure and it will get hold of you and it will obviously bite down.

00:48:17.54
Gareth Flavell: Like you will be, it it may not kill you straight away, but you'll be crushed to death. Like like your all your organs, all your bones, everything, you'll still be alive bobbing up and down in the water.

00:48:29.51
Gareth Flavell: And the thing is, if it it doesn't take you straight away to drown and die, then you'll be up and you won't be able to swim anywhere and you'll be left in the sea with crocodile.

00:48:29.71
Flav: Oh,

00:48:43.16
Gareth Flavell: They are just…

00:48:43.71
Flav: my God.

00:48:47.22
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:48:47.61
Flav: So, as you were talking… i asked i asked I asked, what is more aggressive, a great white or a saltwater crocodile? A saltwater crocodile is significantly more aggressive than a great white shark.

00:49:01.49
Flav: Crocodiles have natural territorial instincts and are active opportunistic hunters. They view few humans as viable prey. By contrast, great whites are generally indifferent to humans. Most attacks can result from curiosity of mistaken identity, whereas cro crocodiles actively stalk, kill, and consume humans. Wow.

00:49:18.97
Flav: A thousand people are killed by saltwater crocodiles every year. As a power of great white is about five or ten.

00:49:27.72
Gareth Flavell: Mate, they are… I love them so much. My…

00:49:31.57
Flav: A saltwater crocodile possesses an astonishingly high bite force of about 3,700 psi, pounds of pounds per square inch, compared to great white's, which is 650. Yeah. Yeah.

00:49:44.22
Gareth Flavell: Jesus Christ!

00:49:45.46
Flav: yeah

00:49:49.04
Flav: Fucking hell.

00:49:49.17
Gareth Flavell: I did… Yeah, fuck me. Jesus Christ.

00:49:52.22
Flav: and And this is why I love the internet and and I love human beings.

00:49:54.20
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:49:55.42
Flav: I know this battle is highly unlikely, but which one wins if they were in the water together?

00:50:03.37
Flav: Someone went, prefer a shark in deeper waters.

00:50:05.34
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:50:06.09
Flav: Croc wins in shallow waters.

00:50:07.90
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, fucking hell. Before we move on, the i just want to speak about the the two, are the Australian box jellyfish, Portuguese man-of-war, right?

00:50:15.89
Flav: Yeah. Hmm.

00:50:17.92
Gareth Flavell: Portuguese man-of-war. I didn't know this. Well, technically, a cut colonial organism rather than a true jellyfish.

00:50:23.54
Flav: yeah

00:50:25.25
Gareth Flavell: Didn't know that.

00:50:25.30
Flav: isn't Yeah. it's not it's It's made up of tiny thousands hundreds of thousands of tiny organisms. It's not its own thing. It's immortal, isn't it?

00:50:34.07
Gareth Flavell: Fuck off, really?

00:50:35.19
Flav: It isn't a jellyfish. It's hundreds and hundreds of thousands and millions of individual organisms that work together.

00:50:44.76
Gareth Flavell: That is insane.

00:50:44.98
Flav: You've got flight on your it

00:50:46.97
Gareth Flavell: know.

00:50:47.42
Flav: Yeah.

00:50:48.68
Gareth Flavell: It's the same one as well. I've got them all. just one for It's just like, right, he's fucking, he's podcasting.

00:50:53.70
Flav: I'm to land on his head, the prick.

00:50:54.12
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I'm going to like, yay.

00:50:54.83
Flav: we

00:50:56.45
Gareth Flavell: Hey, look at him. Looks like a right mug.

00:50:58.68
Flav: i I was terrified of the Portuguese man of war or what they call blue balls in, I think in in Australia.

00:51:05.43
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:51:05.62
Flav: I was terrified of them when I was a kid. I thought if if you get stung by one of them, it's going to get you. You're going to be dead. Apparently other than superficial sting, which hurt, they don't have any threat towards human beings all really.

00:51:16.95
Gareth Flavell: What?

00:51:17.85
Flav: They hurt. The sting hurts, but it's not like you can't kill you unless you have some sort of allergic reaction to a specific venom.

00:51:18.90
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:51:23.29
Gareth Flavell: Here it says, it is infamous for its long tentacles that deliver blinding electric shock, often described as being whipped by fire.

00:51:27.58
Flav: Yeah.

00:51:33.91
Flav: Right. So I watched i watched this program, um which is is really it's wicked.

00:51:34.49
Gareth Flavell: That is…

00:51:38.74
Flav: They do clips on Facebook. The only way i absorb it is through Facebook. It's real, whatever they're called. And there of lifeguards on the on the beach in Australia. And they the the whole it's a reality TV show.

00:51:50.39
Flav: And most of it's set on their little viewing desk where they're looking out towards the the water. And basically, loads of people come up complaining that they've been stung by the Portuguese, the blue bottles, they call them. And they're like, they're saying it's really painful. And they're like, it's not that bad.

00:52:04.02
Flav: Wait 25 minutes. You'll feel better. You'll be fine. it Really and unapologetic to, or and unsympathetic to the people that come and see him.

00:52:07.03
Gareth Flavell: what

00:52:13.11
Flav: Anyway, he has to go out to check a boy and check the nets up and stuff like that. And he goes, he goes out on this, um, paddle massive long surfboard and he's just pushing himself along with his hands and he gets stung and then he gets stung again and he's just got these tentacles wrapped all around him.

00:52:25.30
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:52:33.30
Flav: You can't get them off him, but he can't ask for help. They're on radio and he's kind of getting stung by the blue bottles and they're just like, well, you've got deal with it now because every time this little seven-year-old girl comes and complains, you're completely unsympathetic and sympathetic and hes his arms and his neck look like they've got whip marks all over him as well for me.

00:52:51.69
Gareth Flavell: Oh, my God. like The thing is, as well, ah i mean, I've never been stung by a jellyfish. And for like touching wood here, when I went to Spain last year, there was this massive kind of, I don't know what happened, but there was um there was loads of jellyfish on the sea.

00:53:07.66
Gareth Flavell: And in every Facebook group, they said, for some reason, this summer, there has been cunt load, right?

00:53:07.86
Flav: yeah

00:53:14.74
Gareth Flavell: not ah You know, they didn't say that, but… I still have like that fear, like you just said, like Portuguese man or woman box jellyfish, like it's going to, it will kill me. Same with cobras, same with like all of these things growing up.

00:53:29.50
Gareth Flavell: You get touched by that, it's game over.

00:53:31.35
Flav: Yeah.

00:53:31.38
Gareth Flavell: I didn't know that it was.

00:53:33.59
Flav: we we So when we went to Spain a lot when we were kids, we were all scared of jellyfish because obviously they sting.

00:53:38.62
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:53:40.12
Flav: and we' be But we we'd always be out there snorkeling. It's just what we… We'd we do that. We'd go to the beach, go out snorkeling. And inevitably someone would get stung at some stage. But we was all terrified of them. Anyway, used to go to this place called Granadella.

00:53:54.26
Flav: And in the middle of… Granadella was like a… it it looked like… someone had taken a bite out the side of a mountain and it just made a beach.

00:54:04.09
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:54:04.12
Flav: Do you know what mean? It's like it's just looked like a bite mark and had a beach and a road that drove down to it.

00:54:04.69
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:09.98
Flav: And we'd go there. And in the middle of this, where the sea had come in, there was a big rock where you could kind of make about hundred feet out, maybe less, maybe 50 feet out. And you could stand on the rock and rest.

00:54:21.34
Flav: Anyway, we're standing on this rock and we're about waist deep of water and we're looking and there is the biggest jellyfish any of us have ever seen.

00:54:24.95
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:54:28.96
Flav: Not your typical ones. Not the ones that sort of sit around like and and sit on the thing they're just sort of like slowly moving around.

00:54:37.23
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

00:54:37.53
Flav: This was massive, Ricky. it was like It was like the size of a fucking dustbin.

00:54:43.42
Gareth Flavell: Oh, my God.

00:54:44.38
Flav: It was massive.

00:54:46.26
Gareth Flavell: what What did you what did you do did you get lighted Did you have to wait for it to pass?

00:54:48.48
Flav: I panicked. Yeah, yeah, were just all shitting ourselves on this fucking, on this rock.

00:54:52.12
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:54:54.36
Flav: it was And my dad wasn't helping. was going, it's coming this way, it's coming this way. And I'm like, no, no,

00:54:58.49
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:55:00.09
Flav: On the same holiday, on the same holiday, we did one of the banana things. Do you remember banana boats on a speedboat?

00:55:05.50
Gareth Flavell: yeah yeah yeah

00:55:08.47
Flav: Got flung off. That's what he did. You sat on the bar and the speed man boat tries to engineer it and flick you so that you fly off.

00:55:15.83
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, savoda, savoda.

00:55:17.41
Flav: I think, yeah, I don't even want to be allowed to do it now. But back then there was no rules. So you'd all go in the water and my dad was like, i just seen I've just seen a fin.

00:55:32.07
Flav: was like, he's like on the wind. I've seen a fin, Gary, I've seen a fin. I had to… I swam to the speedboat and got out in the water and just sat there.

00:55:39.61
Gareth Flavell: but

00:55:43.35
Gareth Flavell: Or to the actual speedboat.

00:55:44.34
Flav: Yeah, said, mate, get me in the speedboat. I'm not going back on that fucking thing.

00:55:49.59
Gareth Flavell: Oh, fucking hell. That is amazing. ah Right. um Oh, actually, I've got question here before we end. If someone offered you 10 million, would you spend 24 hours in a shark cage?

00:56:05.67
Gareth Flavell: Dive to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. I mean, not dive as in, you know, Titan.

00:56:11.32
Flav: Yeah, no.

00:56:12.70
Gareth Flavell: Swim Vorkers or free dive with whales?

00:56:14.30
Flav: Yeah.

00:56:18.62
Gareth Flavell: Which one would you go with?

00:56:20.44
Flav: All of the… Three dives of wilds and swim with orcas. For £10 million.

00:56:24.28
Gareth Flavell: Would you really?

00:56:25.10
Flav: pounds You're not dying.

00:56:25.59
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:56:27.08
Flav: You're fine. You're not even getting attacked.

00:56:29.21
Gareth Flavell: Mate, a little bit freaky.

00:56:29.35
Flav: It's just a little bit freaky that you're in the water with them.

00:56:33.66
Flav: Yeah, no, not not that. But yeah the 24 hours in a shark cage where it goes dark… Are they consistently chumming the water?

00:56:44.06
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, let's say they are.

00:56:45.56
Flav: Because otherwise they'll just get bored and eventually you wouldn't be able to sleep.

00:56:47.93
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:56:51.13
Flav: you the the I think there'd be an element of psychosis that would set in. You're in a cage, you're bobbing up and down, you can't hear anything properly, right?

00:57:02.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:57:04.44
Flav: you They are chumming the water and then it starts to get dark and you cannot see a thing.

00:57:11.20
Gareth Flavell: Oh my God, being dark in the sea.

00:57:11.99
Flav: You know you know the sharks are in the water, you know it's being chummed and you can't see the cage in front of you and it's pitch black.

00:57:23.88
Gareth Flavell: Oh, God, yeah.

00:57:24.02
Flav: The only way you know if the cage is there is if you touch the sides or you float to the bottom of the cage and you feel it. but Then you think, what if the cage snaps and you're just in the water?

00:57:34.71
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. See, that's what what that's one of my my other fears is, like going cage diving great whites, get in the cage, you're fine. What happens if the cable snaps?

00:57:45.31
Gareth Flavell: Then you're in the cage and it just sinks to the bottom of the ocean.

00:57:48.06
Flav: no They have floats on the side of the cage. If you look at them next time, you'll see um there's like these cylinders at the top which are that keep you afloat.

00:57:55.22
Gareth Flavell: Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

00:57:57.74
Flav: But I was thinking in there, i thinking this could be the start of a film, Rick, because so someone pays you, some maniac pays you a million pounds to sit in the get in the cage and you've got to spend 24 hours there.

00:58:04.60
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:58:10.01
Flav: right So you're in the cage and… it goes pitch black, you make it through the morning and you think, oh Christ, I'm nearly done. And then you check when it's light enough so you can see and there's no boat there, it's gone and you're just in the cage in the middle of the ocean

00:58:22.81
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:58:26.36
Gareth Flavell: ah fuck Oh, fucking hell. Yeah, God.

00:58:30.23
Flav: the ocean. I'm infatuated with this Facebook group called i Should Be Dead. And almost all of them are the people that have been left to see.

00:58:40.22
Gareth Flavell: and what And what, these are real cases or they just make up scenarios?

00:58:42.52
Flav: Yeah, yeah. No, these are real-life stories of people that have evaded death. Crazy enough.

00:58:49.62
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, the sea scares me.

00:58:51.06
Flav: Yeah, it is scary.

00:58:52.09
Gareth Flavell: I mean, after all the kind of shit we've just spoken about, ah let alone that we don't know enough about it and we've not explored any of it.

00:59:00.66
Flav: Yeah.

00:59:01.46
Gareth Flavell: yeah I think I… Maybe I thought, if speaking about this to you, that there's been a few things which just put my mind at ease, but I still maintain that I am just going to go into the sea on holiday to waist height and that'll be it.

00:59:19.86
Gareth Flavell: That's fine by me.

00:59:21.42
Flav: Yeah.

00:59:21.85
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, okay.

00:59:23.32
Flav: mean, people still get done at waist height. Don't know. You know that.

00:59:26.90
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I know. But I want to kind of see a little bit. Can you imagine that? Saying to my kids, I'm only going in up to my knees. not coming

00:59:34.28
Flav: I really hope… I really hope… At least just you get bitten by a shark. I would love that.

00:59:38.81
Gareth Flavell: Little jellyfish sting?

00:59:39.11
Flav: Not…

00:59:41.40
Flav: Yeah, that would be good.

00:59:41.98
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, good one.

00:59:42.90
Flav: Yeah, yeah.

00:59:43.30
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

00:59:43.38
Flav: Something like that.

00:59:44.06
Gareth Flavell: Little sting.

00:59:44.41
Flav: If I'm there. We… Honestly, we should plan a holiday together, Ricky. We could do all these things. We could go up to… um We go on a boat. We go sea fishing.

00:59:54.15
Gareth Flavell: We'd be freaking each other out. Oh, yeah, sea fishing for sure.

00:59:58.39
Flav: All that stuff. Oh, my God. I'm just looking at a video of a shark going underneath it.

01:00:04.62
Gareth Flavell: Oh, i there's another there's another actually Instagram that I just, I don't know if you've seen it.

01:00:10.17
Flav: Tiger shark! Tiger shark ran me!

01:00:11.99
Gareth Flavell: a may yeah Every time and someone says the word tiger shark, I just want to say that line.

01:00:15.86
Flav: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:18.26
Gareth Flavell: I saw this, ah kit i think, you know, orca, whatever it is, um by the ah ice caps. And there's a sit there's a seal just there.

01:00:25.14
Flav: Yeah.

01:00:27.60
Gareth Flavell: And this orca, it's just head comes up really slowly, how it's filmed really slow. It pops its head up and you can just, Yeah, yeah yeah the eyes.

01:00:34.23
Flav: Like that, isn't it it? It comes up and it you see its eye like it's looking at where sit

01:00:38.86
Gareth Flavell: It's fucking amazing, man.

01:00:40.66
Flav: the… Well, like they they they know the seal's on top of it and they create a bow wave.

01:00:41.28
Gareth Flavell: so scary. Yeah.

01:00:45.66
Flav: So they all swim along together and create this wave that knocks the seal off of the off the of the ice cap.

01:00:47.54
Gareth Flavell: yeah

01:00:53.09
Gareth Flavell: I mean, they are just fucking… Do you know what?

01:00:55.32
Flav: So good.

01:00:55.63
Gareth Flavell: After speaking with you, they they've gone up in salmon hats straight away.

01:00:55.89
Flav: Did

01:00:59.09
Flav: you Google

01:00:59.63
Gareth Flavell: Right.

01:01:00.79
Flav: So good.

01:01:01.34
Gareth Flavell: Up to the top. There you go

01:01:02.33
Flav: you google it

01:01:03.42
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:04.66
Flav: so good

01:01:06.81
Gareth Flavell: Right. um We have, do you know what? We've got a dilemma this week. So we're going to be answering that. That is called the house share. We've also got something only you know, and that's called the friend request. That is a voice note. The topic for next week that someone sent in is football hooliganism. from the skirmishes in the 60s to the firms in the 70s and 80s, leading to Hazel Stadium disaster. We'll chat about modern-day hooliganism, the commercialization of it, whether it still exists today, and or has modern tech, police, and Stadia put an end to it all.

01:01:43.38
Gareth Flavell: So that's going to the topic for next week. If you've got any stories, if you've been involved in any skirmishes, or if you're actually active,

01:01:45.11
Flav: Yeah.

01:01:50.23
Gareth Flavell: you know active in a firm send it in to ladsanonpod at gmail.com and we will read it out and again if you've got any more topic suggestions we are free and open to chat about whatever you want to chat about it's your podcast so send it all in to that email address now we are going to go into dilemma

01:02:45.78
Gareth Flavell: The House Share hello lad longtime listener of the pod love it and it gets me through a lot of tough days here is my dilemma i'd love to hear your thoughts i'm twenty five years old and have been with my girlfriend for about ten months now she's beautiful loving kind and funny i met her parents twice which is a big deal in her culture as she's from as she has an east asian background The point is we're tight and have big plans and ideas for our future together. Sadly, she moved abroad last week to study a master's and due to work, I can't join her for probably another 10 months.

01:03:26.42
Gareth Flavell: In the meantime, she of course needs to rent a gaff and is currently searching, viewing flats, etc. Throughout this process, I've been adamant that she only goes to an all-female flat or at least share with a married couple perhaps.

01:03:44.31
Gareth Flavell: What I don't want is for her to be in a flat with other blokes in their 20s or 30s, as while I trust her fully, i know blokes and the thought of them eyeing up my girlfriend in the kitchen watching films with her in the living room or trying to create a vibe would make me feel sick.

01:04:02.89
Flav: you

01:04:03.64
Gareth Flavell: She says she much prefers female only, but would be open to living with guys if push came to shove. My dilemma is, how hard do I go on this idea of zero tolerance for her living with blokes? Is it worth a big argument over?

01:04:20.38
Gareth Flavell: Am I being unreasonable or is this pretty rational? As I say, it's not a worry about her doing anything, more just the idea of male housemates potentially fancying her and being weird, which makes me uncomfortable.

01:04:35.10
Gareth Flavell: And I think she's being naive. Also, any tips on long distance relationships would be appreciated.

01:04:46.78
Flav: I think he's fine to to want that.

01:04:49.69
Gareth Flavell: To yeah.

01:04:49.94
Flav: I'm not…

01:04:50.46
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:04:51.98
Flav: I would much, much rather, yeah, my daughter or my… If my daughter was… that that I know the way men's brains work.

01:05:02.55
Gareth Flavell: m

01:05:03.93
Flav: And while she might not be doing anything, if they would… If she's an attractive girl, they probably would be eyeing her up and maybe…

01:05:12.09
Gareth Flavell: yeah

01:05:14.46
Flav: I think i think he's you he's fine to request that. And it's not about it's not an insult on her. it's It's just the way a lot it's not a lot of men, but some men's brain works. Especially if like drinks involved, stuff like that.

01:05:26.65
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:05:28.02
Flav: I don't know. don't think that's a popular thing to say in the modern world. But that's I understand where he's coming from completely.

01:05:35.48
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, for sure. I mean, when I, when i when I moved down to London, I was living in house share on my own with, you know, it it was mixed. And then my missus joined from ah Milton Keynes and she was in her own kind of flat share.

01:05:50.78
Gareth Flavell: She was with other guys and girls, ah but i yeah.

01:05:53.98
Flav: What? Where?

01:05:55.99
Gareth Flavell: She… Moswell Hill.

01:05:58.34
Flav: What?

01:05:59.00
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, and Crouch End.

01:06:01.06
Flav: For how long?

01:06:02.38
Gareth Flavell: For ages. Maybe not ages, but for maybe at least a year.

01:06:07.16
Flav: What was this so that you, were you saving up to get a flat or something?

01:06:11.67
Gareth Flavell: Well, this is but because, yeah, we were trying to find the flat together. ah So, and in the meantime, I was in that house share on my, with with those other people.

01:06:21.14
Flav: Yeah.

01:06:21.66
Gareth Flavell: So she moved down to Muswell Hill and lived with two girls. So there was three of them.

01:06:27.19
Flav: Yeah.

01:06:27.58
Gareth Flavell: Then they got kicked out of there and then they moved to another house in Crouch End at the top of Crouch Hill.

01:06:32.25
Flav: Does she still speak to them?

01:06:33.85
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, um ah not, not regularly, but she's still like friends of them.

01:06:36.70
Flav: On Facebook.

01:06:37.49
Gareth Flavell: I've got them on Facebook and stuff.

01:06:39.51
Flav: Yeah, yeah. Anyway, usually say.

01:06:40.41
Gareth Flavell: And they're all, they're all actors as well.

01:06:40.97
Flav: Yeah.

01:06:43.54
Gareth Flavell: But um I was there with them. Do you know what i mean? So i was i was I was comfortable enough that she's living with other men, ah but we were spending time together.

01:06:46.52
Flav: yeah

01:06:53.13
Gareth Flavell: We were in the same place. Now, if she was away in another country, Other guys knocking about different time zones, different, you know, this, that and the other.

01:07:06.14
Flav: yeah

01:07:06.46
Gareth Flavell: I would be apprehensive and not for the fact that, you know, I don't trust my partner. But again, i do know what men are like.

01:07:19.38
Flav: I think as well is, look, we do know what men are like, what Rick is saying, but you cannot, regardless of what she's doing, you can't obsess about this. um You need to just trust. like I trust my wife implicitly. and implicitly

01:07:34.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:07:35.99
Flav: um so I don't at any moment think she's cheating on me or doing anything untoward.

01:07:41.40
Gareth Flavell: m

01:07:41.98
Flav: It just just doesn't cross my mind because if that even if she did, there's nothing I can do about it.

01:07:43.42
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:07:46.78
Flav: It's something that she would intend do as long as I've shown her as much love as I can.

01:07:47.18
Gareth Flavell: No.

01:07:51.02
Flav: Blush your early doors. It's quite exciting still. At 10 months, you don't really want to be together all the time and having to be across the world is tough, but yeah, I don't die on the hill, mate. That's what I would say, but I understand where you're coming from.

01:08:03.45
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, completely agree. Yeah, I wouldn't really push and really you know create a ah huge argument about it, but I would make sure that you um that you're clear that your preference would be for females or married couple, whatever.

01:08:14.90
Flav: oh also you don't want your

01:08:21.85
Flav: you don't want to come across here as jealous or of clingy where you're not doing that you just have a concern and you're airing that concern if you keep pushing it it's going to come across as like right all right get it i get it like

01:08:34.04
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:08:34.58
Flav: So you' got be careful about that. It's quite a delicate thing, but you could say, it's a lot i I know what men are like. i' I'm so far away. i miss you deeply. if you If there's a way where you can just live with girls, that'd be amazing because obviously and I just ah don't worry about men perving over you when when you don't want them to.

01:08:50.17
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:08:52.76
Flav: And I'm so far away that I can't do anything about it. So that'd be the thing, but.

01:08:57.66
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I felt that then. I felt like you were talking to me about that. And I was like, right, I'll live with girls then, Flav. That's it.

01:09:02.81
Flav: Yeah, you…

01:09:03.10
Gareth Flavell: Fine, fine.

01:09:03.49
Flav: what yeah cause you

01:09:04.15
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, you won me over. Well done. Right, okay. So I hope we've ah helped you on that one and answered your dilemma. Now we are going to go into a voice note. And this is called the friend request.

01:09:19.21
Gareth Flavell: For something na you know I need to do the…

01:12:02.19
Flav: I fucked your mum.

01:12:17.72
Gareth Flavell: Shagga!

01:12:20.52
Gareth Flavell: shaga

01:12:21.32
Flav: Top sugar.

01:12:21.97
Gareth Flavell: ah

01:12:24.30
Flav: That's wicked.

01:12:25.40
Gareth Flavell: God, can you imagine that? there I bet there's so many people listening to this that have done something similar, ah like shagged someone's mum or sister.

01:12:35.51
Flav: Yeah.

01:12:35.58
Gareth Flavell: and And it's been like this kind of like, you know, friends with benefits or whatever. And they're keeping that from us. So you should share it with us.

01:12:43.36
Flav: they should.

01:12:43.77
Gareth Flavell: You know where to email, you know, ladsanonpod at gmail.com. Right. That's the end of the show for this week. The topic for next week is football hooliganism. If you've got any stories, anything you want to share, you know the email address. ah Patrons, going out Friday. i just Actually, I just want to say a quick shout out to the patrons because…

01:13:05.53
Gareth Flavell: They got me, Flav. ah And I don't think… and I never thought I'd be in this position where what what I'm about to share, I am going to share. So my daughter and I, we sit in the garden, sit on the benches. She's got a little swing that she sits on with all these cushions and that.

01:13:22.21
Gareth Flavell: Planes fly over across us and we're like…

01:13:23.98
Flav: Yeah.

01:13:25.78
Gareth Flavell: oh, I wonder where thats where that is and where where that's going. don't know if we're on a flight path, but we we see a fair amount of planes.

01:13:33.69
Flav: Yeah.

01:13:33.82
Gareth Flavell: I mentioned it to the you know to the lads in Discord, and they introduced me to a game. um what i can't even remember what the game's called. Maybe Skycard or something like that?

01:13:45.13
Gareth Flavell: and um

01:13:45.37
Flav: All right.

01:13:47.16
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, Skycards. And it's matched with that flight radar where you point your phone up and you can see what plane it is. now My daughter and I, every evening, are sitting in the garden, catching like Pokemon planes flying over us.

01:14:04.01
Flav: what's it Is the aim to get as many different models as you can? Well,

01:14:07.16
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Many different models. Some are more unique. Some get more points and stuff like that. um I'm sitting here, right?

01:14:15.48
Flav: but aren't they just loads of the same plane? like or Oh, really?

01:14:17.69
Gareth Flavell: No, there isn't. There isn't.

01:14:19.31
Flav: I thought they were all flying the same planes.

01:14:19.41
Gareth Flavell: thing is, is, well…

01:14:21.31
Flav: Yeah.

01:14:21.40
Gareth Flavell: No. and when I'm here, right, during the day, and if I go out and just stand in the garden for a bit, what do I get? Heathrow to Belfast.

01:14:30.93
Flav: Yeah.

01:14:31.59
Gareth Flavell: Heathrow to fucking Luton to Glasgow, whatever.

01:14:33.40
Flav: would be what a bit be it would be the Boeing yeah

01:14:37.56
Gareth Flavell: Something like that. I don't i don't know. Ryanair EasyJet. When she's out there, she got Ontario the other day. san Diego as well. And I was like… Fucking, I'm losing this game.

01:14:50.46
Gareth Flavell: But anyway, let' just want to say, um we sit out there in the evening and while we're, you know, plane spotting. God, my God, I'm a plane nut.

01:14:57.70
Flav: well can I can i um much you and I might have a go yeah

01:14:58.98
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah. Mate, it's so fucking good. And you can see all the details about the plane, where it's come from, where it's going, all the the model numbers, how high it is, all of that stuff.

01:15:10.97
Gareth Flavell: ah So thank you very much um to the the patrons in Discord. I'm Now, plane nonce.

01:15:16.57
Flav: I might check that out.

01:15:17.70
Gareth Flavell: So thanks for that.

01:15:17.94
Flav: Nice.

01:15:19.38
Gareth Flavell: Cheers. but um But also, when we sit outside, because we're waiting for planes, we're just sharing time together, chatting about school, chatting about, you know, music.

01:15:20.02
Flav: Yeah.

01:15:29.37
Gareth Flavell: Although Olivia Rodrigo and fucking Harry Styles isn't really my thing, but, you know, entertain.

01:15:33.37
Flav: Harry Styles, I can fuck with.

01:15:34.45
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

01:15:35.99
Flav: ah can I can. Especially since you sent me that quote you did when they're inducting Tom Hawk about Radiohead and was like, you are a legend.

01:15:45.11
Gareth Flavell: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is quality. That is quality.

01:15:47.19
Flav: But his albums are they fine. but Since he left, what's it called? One Direction. he You can tell that he's into music and it sounds like Bowie.

01:15:51.74
Gareth Flavell: One Direction, yeah.

01:15:55.10
Flav: A lot like Bowie. A lot of it.

01:15:56.09
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:15:56.42
Flav: so

01:15:57.28
Gareth Flavell: I quite like Olivia Rodrigo, actually. i think she's all right.

01:15:59.70
Flav: ah We're being honest now, are we?

01:16:00.76
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah. Ha, ha, ha. ah And that's the end for this week's podcast. I hope you've enjoyed it. Patrons, we'll see you now Friday. Join up patreon.com slash ladsanonpod. Everyone else, the normies, we will see you on Monday.

01:16:16.64
Flav: Cheers.

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What you got, Rick? Well, have.

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with your save? Hey, guy. Opening it up. Can you hear that? What's that?

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And there it is. There she is. Come on. Out you come. Go!

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That, my friend, is digital fishing scales. Yeah. Digital folding scales. And I thought that might be boring thing on Earth. I didn't realize it was fishing related. Yep. Wait, let me just, Let's get her out. Let's get her out. Here we go. Right. I look like you found handles out. Yeah. And then the hook underneath here, and then you hold.

00:00:45:11 – 00:01:15:02
Yeah, yeah. Have you caught anything that would even register those scales before? Yeah. Oh, fucking hell yeah. Hell, yeah. But those are, I mean, it can do any, any weights. So there's been lots of times that I've been fishing and I'm like, even though it's not, a huge specimen, it would be a personal best for me in, say, let's say a chub or a rope.

00:01:15:04 – 00:01:40:00
I have no idea. But now I've got those digital scales. I'm fucking. I'm all right. Sounds. You know, that's the largest fish ever caught in the canal, right? In the UK. Oh, that's a bloody good question. Canal? Why would what breed would you say with the most heaviest fish you could catch on a canal? I'm going to go with catfish was a catfish.

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Right. Okay. How big was this catfish? I'm going to go with.

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62 pounds. 2 pounds? No. Yeah. Much smaller. Smaller, right. 4 pounds. 44. Right. Wow. And in the Grand Union Canal, throughout the Grand Grand Union. I didn't mean to. I didn't realize you, like, kind of, you know, that, like, use a bit Aspergers about canals. Yeah, I, I just find so interesting, I don't know, I find them so interesting.

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Let's have a go on a canal boat for a weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't just me and you to fuck the women off? If they can't get organized, they can't come. I mean, you Canal. Yeah. Mushrooms, mate. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's it. Really? Ricky, would you be taking mushrooms on a canal boat?

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Yeah, if.

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Mate, we could do it. We could do a little, a little video diary or something. Post a little bit. Oh, mate, I would love to. Well, one of our patrons, a he lives on a canal by. Yeah. Isn't he? He's the one, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. All right, all right. My favorite. My favorite thing you've ever said.

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There's so many things you've said during our friendship. That's right. Yeah, but the favorite one was you going down to meet some bloke off the internet who listens to the podcast on these canal boat? You have you just walking up to the canal boat? Oh, what are you worried about that I it's oh, it's a cross by with the doors.

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Just guessing. Open is going to now we have a crossbow in the chest. Why. Just because he's off the internet? Yeah, yeah. If the night is meet some sketchy. I mean, there's sketchy characters everywhere, but I just. I was just a bit panicked, so that made it so funny. If you if you like, that's your end, your demise and your face down.

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Floating in the canal was about. Yeah. Like an arrow going through your chest. God. So disappointing. I'm gonna say disappointing. Bow. You just say the rope. That's true. Yeah, I think he's had that before. Even he got time to realize what's going on. You just got a fucking feathers sticking out of a stick, you know? What the fuck's that?

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And then you're like, oh, I know, I know what this is. I know this is going gonna happen. Yeah, I knew, I knew this is going to happen. I, I follow, this gentleman on Instagram and like the pictures of aqueducts and the places in the country, the different, locks that he goes for. Oh, it's just so interesting.

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And the different types of bridges. You got modern bridges, old Victorian bridges, different style. Like, it's just. What do you what do you think? Have you ever discussed Cane Hill locks with him? Do you know what? I'm not actually all right. People are listening like 99.9% of the people listening to this who don't know what we're talking about here.

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The Cane Hill locks are the the highest number of consecutive locks on a canal in the world. There's 27. That is insane. It takes you a day to move 100ft. Fucking hell. Hang on a second. You sent me a picture the other day that you're walking down the canal. Yeah. And, there was that cane. Yeah. Know. Looks about five minutes from my house.

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Fucking hell. Did you not know that? So, Yeah. Yeah. So basically that obviously in the canal, it's all flat, and then the bits are not flat. You need a couple of locks to go up the levels. Yeah, I mean, it's I just find it really interesting. And obviously. Yeah. Fishing there I was walking the other day and some geezer.

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Not the canal. Etiquette community. Everyone says hello, good morning, afternoon and stuff, and I just it's just so nice to have that. Oh, crime. And, like, people trying to break into your boats and stuff as well. That's what I worried about. There's a bloke on Instagram who I followed, who he found this old lifeboat in the yard and he bought it.

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Yeah. And he returned it to life. And you watched him working on this lifeboat? He was 21 when he bought it and he's now 24 and he's he's sort of turned into a canal boat. And it's sensational. It's called the orca. Sorry. Oh my God, that sounds amazing. Yeah. He's got it from, got it from, you know, literally derelict done it all up now he's now he's now selling it because I don't know why but he talks about there been a lot of crime on the canal ways.

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Fuck. I did not know that. Yeah. So maybe you can watch it back from the start to finish. It's good. The good old story. I've been following him for three years now. You see him driving around? Yeah. Boy, yeah, boy. I've got a question to ask. Yeah, something happened to me this morning, and I didn't realize it affected me this much, but it has so my missus, she was in a rush this morning.

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She. She has to go out somewhere certain time and when I went into the bathroom to say. What time are you leaving for this place that she's going, I she turned her head as she is brushing her teeth and she said she mouthed to me, I'm leaving at eight. That okay then. And then I was like, is is that my toothbrush?

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Oh, and she said, yeah, I can't, I can't find mine. And I was like, excuse me, you've just grabbed my toothbrush to brush your teeth just because you can't find yours. You know, you haven't got time to wake up. But I was going to call or anything. Well, that I didn't have anything. No, no, there was no loaded night.

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But I was like, what's it got? What are you doing? If surely you could just sit. Where else is a toothbrush going to be? It's going to be somewhere in the bathroom. Just keep searching. But there's two things here. Like watching her brush her teeth with my toothbrush and seeing it happen. It. No, I didn't know it was the the opposite.

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Yeah. Disgusting. Me the opposite. Now, I'm sure she probably has brushed her teeth with my toothbrush and I've not been in the bathroom. And then she called 9 to 10 brush. Yeah, and that's fine. If I don't know about it, I don't care. Just seeing it in action. I mean, look kind of like you've actually. I mean, I don't want to get graphic here, Rick.

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You've got to cut my hair out. Yeah, yeah. What's your what's been one mutter my. That mean. Yeah. Yeah. It kind of lingers. Yeah. That's worse. That's. Yeah. Who came up with that. But it's mint word. Yeah. And it, it's it is a mental word for what it is, isn't it. What is it so long? I don't know, you've probably done worse than that, Rick.

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So why you were. Why are you worried about a little? I'm. I'm with the money. Yeah, right. Okay. If I can't find it, I'm using olives or I'm using the kids and. Look, there's nothing they can do about it, but, like, everyone's teeth rush, they're like, you don't. If I can't find mine, I use all three of them at the same time.

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So, rather. Okay. So, you know, I, you know, I thought you'd be, if you kiss, you miss it. I mean, it's the same thing. All. He doesn't like it. She doesn't like me using a toothbrush. She's all in on your side. Right? Okay. But. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I pay the bills, so do I.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not. And I'm not. Normally if I knew she was doing it and I wasn't in the room, that's fine. But because I saw it happen, I was just a bit weirded out about it, and I just didn't like it. And, yeah, I understand perfectly where my mouth has been and where her mouth has been.

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You know, we're all adults here. Yeah. Stop being a child. Yeah, but I just don't like honest brushing of the tongue, you know that, like brushing the child. Don't do that. Yeah, I know, I know how it works. Yeah, I just one thing I can't get my head around even as an adult. Fucking flossing, I hate it. I hate the idea of it, even making my make him kind, you know, not sweet saliva, but.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've got these really thin wire ones now, and I'm just scared of going into my gum. But when I did, when I went to the hygienist about a month ago, she had. She's gone right into the gum. I was like, what? Her. And I was like, fuck, you can go in the gum. I didn't know you were going to gum.

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You like you couldn't. You can put the wire up beneath the gum line without it hurting. Yeah, I have done that. But I have come away with a couple of bleeds on the gum, which is not ideal, but I'd rather that than have you. Probably three days. Yeah. Rotting meat in my teeth, you know. So you floss every day.

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I don't floss every day. That is a fucking mission. It's bullshit. Every day fucking now I should, you know. Do you know there's this myth that Americans have better teeth than the Europe pins in the English because of the sort of pre-loaded, because of the sailing days and scurvy and it. British teeth are bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in terms of overall health, British teeth are much healthier than Americans just because you got veneers and they all look great doesn't make you look or you whiten your teeth.

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Overall health in America so well in every facet of society is worse, I think. I don't know if that's true. I have to say that, but no. Yeah, yeah. Say it. So say it. Yeah. Every face of the American that's going to wind up a couple of your, you know, a couple of our audience. But yeah, it's just like on every level, you've got to say, yeah, metric is worse than brand.

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I thought you just go for teeth there, I didn't know. Yeah, proper sending. I'd like to go to America, but. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and this isn't like I'm not when I'm not getting into, fucking digging at America, but I would just.

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I would, I would assume that because of the, which call it the food, what's the word I'm looking for? Because there's a lot more sugar in there. Yeah. Them drinks and all that. Yeah. Yeah. There's no sugar tax there. So the sugar sitting on your teeth and rotting them. I would assume that that teeth is probably in overall better.

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I've sorry. Worse condition. But there is always this thing, you know, we see, like cartoons of, I don't know, Prince Charles where and his teeth are all fucking all over the gaff. And there's a lot of that stereotype of British teeth sticking out everywhere, but, actually, All right, I think what I said was not true.

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Oh, no. Especially because ChatGPT always agrees with you in this instance. That said, studies often show Americans visit dentists more regularly than Europe's. Europeans, partly because of the insurance system's workplace benefits and cultural emphasis. However, rates of cavities tooth decay are broadly similar across Western Europe and the US. Some European countries, like the Nordic nations and the Netherlands, have better average dental health outcomes than the US.

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Cosmetic. Cosmetic dentistry is much more common in the US, which fuels the stereotype that Americans have better teeth. But everyone has teeth, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, knowledge in here. I'll tell you one thing more before we play the jingle. Yeah. Going. I can see that sinkhole toilet, mate. Yeah. They, Oh, stuff like that.

00:14:08:12 – 00:14:29:11
I love why it's. I mean, wow. Yeah. How long has it been festering under there? Yeah, but when you saw it collapse, though, did you see there was a pipe that was just spilling water? Yeah. Well, so maybe they also get people out of a car that was halfway down the hole. Or was that because we don't know what it.

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I saw what they called they had, like, I don't know if it was I, but it looked like there was a car that was wedged in the hole at the bottom and they'd had, like, ropes gone down and they people saved them. But it was this bit where it was like jolted and it didn't look real. So I was like, oh, I but I didn't know it was real.

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This is what the fucking world is, was done. I adventures done. The, I did see or read that, a car had been swallowed up in the sinkhole, but also when I watched the video, there's a car which is just on the edge, and I was like, come on, full flow. Oh, yeah, it does for that.

00:15:11:07 – 00:15:36:24
Good, good. I mean, they're not silly enough to not let they got out there. So they, they would have, rescuers cheat death. Now by my now biting moment, rescuers cheat death as they are lifted out of 160ft sinkhole seconds before tons of rubble comes crashing down. Fuck, that was mad. Yeah. How did that get there like that in the car going down the sinkhole.

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And that's what you be thinking? Where are we going? Yeah. What's at the bottom of this fucking. Oh, man. And the people just sitting around the edge like, well, get the fuck out of them right now. I know, I know the people that were filming right? There's one guy I think he's like, he gets his moped and he's like, I'm off.

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I'm. I'm not having any pieces. There are other people that are just getting closer and closer. Just have a look then right at the end of the video, it just all slides in and I'm like, okay, where would you be? Would you be having a butcher's or would you be off? I'd be off, I wouldn't know, there would be no morbid curiosity from me.

00:16:08:03 – 00:16:28:13
Oh, I'll be far away from that fucker as possible. I know what I'm like. And I probably would be having a little bitches, but I bet from from safety of not I would. I'd probably be right over the edge. Just don't think. Not thinking about it. Getting my phone out, trying to film. Yeah, yeah, I should do that.

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I mean, that was a good one.

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The night lazy. Like, I know brothers play in chilling ties quite midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks with them. Hit us different ways. Love the music that we played with our tongue in cheek man. As I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous.

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It's episode 116. I'm Ricky. Yeah he's Flav two best mates. One main topic. Yeah, yeah. Your life dilemmas and confessions hour for each or something. Any and everything remains anonymous. Know quite well know and much more. More. Good idea mate. You're right. Yeah. Good. Yes. Good. Middling. Hey, today it's time for. It's Friday, so it's Friday, then Saturday.

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Sunday what? No, because Friday for me isn't the same as Friday for everybody else, is it? No. I'm working Friday. Working Saturday? Are you working Saturday after the game? I've got a record, haven't I? And then obviously Podcast Sunday. Then we've got what we got Monday. Some more podcasting. Tuesday. Podcasting. Wednesday we'll be doing some more podcasting.

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And then Thursday I've got a couple of podcasts Fridays today. So a week from now, two podcasts. Yeah, sometimes three podcasts. So yeah. Podcast basically every day. And it reminds me of that geezer. He's, in a weight training fish with rice cake. More fish. Fish and rice catch. It's like fish and rice cake all day. Yeah.

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Do you know what the. Actually, before I go into that, the. I thought I'd mention this for you, but the fantasy Premier League patron one. Do you know who's top pro be the pick? Warrior trophy is the name Nick Hekima. What? Nick. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's, I think. No, he's a bit of a dark horse than I played there.

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Yeah I know okay. Absolute slug. Yeah I know, and then, just after that as well. Harshest you know it's James. Well done mate. And troop is Josh do you know what we're talking about today? We are talking about we are talking about the Tourette's condition. I'll be I think about that's Rick. Do you read it? Yeah. As in how do you mean?

00:19:21:22 – 00:19:44:15
Well, I've got is that is genuinely probably the biggest yawn I've ever seen. That's one of my annoying. That's one of my tics. So people were saying, I've listened to someone say, because obviously I've just mentioned all the podcasts I do. And people say, like, I literally feel like I'm living with Flav because of how much I listen to his podcast.

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That's what I said. But yawning is becoming a distraction. Oh, I cannot. Button the word yawning without yawning. If I say someone else, you on? Oh you're on. It doesn't matter whether I'm tired or not. And I've been looking into this and it's not just the common thing though. The income. Yeah. If if someone you and you automatically yawn.

00:20:07:00 – 00:20:25:14
Yeah. It's like if I'm on a, in a phone call with someone, I'll start yawning. Even I'm not tired. Mrs.. Like, you got to stop doing X. It's rude. And that's it's like involuntary. I cannot I can't do it back here now. It's kind of again kind of gagging. I cannot not do it and I didn't.

00:20:25:15 – 00:20:47:16
And I've been looking into this. Right. And I'm thinking I've got Tourette's because I'm not just doing that. I'm constantly touching my face, touching my chest like this all the time. I'm not well. I'm doing it until we start recording myself. And this I'm doing this all the time and that. Yeah, all the time. People used to think I had a, like, a cocaine habit, right?

00:20:47:16 – 00:21:05:20
And, I mean, I don't know if it was a habit, but there was there was a time where I was ingesting a fair bit, but the this, this sort of facial tics and stuff, I've definitely got. You've known about the facial tics for years, though. Oh no. So that's why it started. I'm coughing in as well as a part of it as well, but I do.

00:21:06:01 – 00:21:31:20
I have a smoker's cough when I smoke, I cough and I've been smoking a lot recently because you've been stressed, but my coughing generally that can be a tick as well. This is interesting you know. Yeah. So and sometimes I shout at random words but not often. But do not the sandwich clip. Yes. There you go. I will often go back and it's had an 8000 views.

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8000 views on YouTube. It's not enough. It really isn't enough. This is one of the funniest clips I've ever seen. And I'll just go back and have a little watch of. It's so fucking funny. Say like what? Say you've got ADHD, Tourette's. I don't think I've got ADHD. Well, dyspraxia. Well, my message says I'm this Brexit. Yeah, yeah.

00:21:53:03 – 00:22:12:09
Which means like you're clumsy, you bump into things or you drop things. I do that right. Yeah. Yeah. So that could be true. She's convinced she finds it very funny. And it shouldn't be funny. That's an element. That's why I could probably get benefits for that. You might? Yeah. You might be able to get a blue badge or something.

00:22:12:11 – 00:22:40:10
She's got. Oh, it's quite difficult to get blue badges if you've got like, all of these threats to it. I don't actually I got to wake up one I think. Oh you didn't see that smile. Unfortunately, that's the one that's nice enough to organize this. Very good. But you're in it says yes in the context of neurodivergent individuals, yawning can serve as a form of stimming or self-regulatory behavior to manage stress or sensory overload.

00:22:40:12 – 00:23:09:07
Oh, wow. Yeah, he's gone again. Nobody's talking about it. We're talking about it. Right. Okay, okay. We'll all be talking about it's the topic for today is the. It's ever I was there or we was there moments in your life that you like. It could have been individual for your own town, or it could have been a game or a football game.

00:23:09:07 – 00:23:44:03
I've got a couple ego Laughs. Here it goes. Oh shoot. It's me. One right okay. Yeah. Plug 2000 and 102 Prague two Prague Czech. Yeah one when everyone went nowhere. Yeah yeah there was lots. He went everyone Pro two yeah yeah yeah. Ross yeah yeah yeah yeah. So, strip joint then. Yeah, yeah. Room with bed. Yeah. Benches along the side of the bed.

00:23:44:05 – 00:24:08:24
Although if you don't use earache AC, you might have it. I was there anyway. That's the point right. So yeah we're not you're not talking benches as in like park benches. We're talking about benches in the sports hall with the flappy end. Those benches. Right. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Two strippers on the bed, ten men on the benches.

00:24:09:01 – 00:24:38:06
And you, they ask anyone brave one of the. I won't go into details, but one party of that group went. Yes, I'm brave. So they entice him onto the bed and he thinks, oh, this is going to be good. They're going to jiggle their knockers in my face or whatever. They sort of started with that. But then ponies pulling his trousers down, okay.

00:24:38:06 – 00:25:13:20
And then held his feet up like a newborn baby let up in the air and stuff to do it, like right up your bum. Oh well. Oh, up. I can't get words out. I probably have that. Is that, Jesus Christ, boy, I was not there for that one. That's a good price. Well, good as well. Yeah we I play Cheering Cheering because what could have been what could have been quite a CD environment.

00:25:13:20 – 00:25:31:16
Ten men two women. Yeah. It's not a good ratio. No no terrible ratio. But it was also a bit of a laugh. It wasn't like a see the energy. Yeah. And the fact that it wasn't there wasn't any kind of there wasn't like a sexual show going on. It was just a trick to shove a dildo up a man's ass.

00:25:31:18 – 00:25:53:01
Everyone was. Everyone just thought right at that. Yeah. All right. I saw I was there for that. I mean, that is. Do you not know that story? I had never heard that story in my entire life. It's even funnier when, you know, it was too loud. Like.

00:25:53:03 – 00:26:19:04
I can get in my mind now. I've got who I, who, who. The brave man. The, do the. Don't say the letter, but do it for patrons. They can watch this. Right? Okay. Say, do the, do the thing. Like that was. That was obvious. It wasn't. No no no no no it wasn't, it wasn't. Geez, Louise.

00:26:19:06 – 00:26:46:03
Fucking. Oh, I'm stumped to that. What? I can't it can't be. How am I going to say this? No, no, of course not. Now. Yeah. Okay. Oh, hang on. What's that? Okay. Watch slow. That one, and then that at the top. Can you have it without that bit at the top? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Does him.

00:26:46:04 – 00:26:50:15
Yeah.

00:26:50:17 – 00:27:10:04
Yeah. Anyway, I like that. Go. I was there for that. That was good. Yeah. That is squirming like a, you know, like a, like it been, you know, it was the, a magnifying glass. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And used to burn ants. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't do that. No, I definitely did. Yeah. He was squirming.

00:27:10:06 – 00:27:28:15
How how far did it go in? Was it just like, the tape or just, you know, around the area, or was it like a full. I think he was probably. He got into defense mode quite quickly. Yeah, I think it went and I can't there must have been more going on than that. But that's all my brain allows me to remember from.

00:27:28:15 – 00:28:01:12
It was kind of just gone in just for that. There must have been other stuff, going on. But yeah, that's a that's all. That's all I can remember. It. I mean, that is I don't have anything like that, but I do in the same kind of, arena. I haven't thought about this until I started writing this, and I when I it must have been when I was 15, maybe 14, probably 15.

00:28:01:14 – 00:28:35:16
And it was all around the time of when you young, you got your group of mates, you got the group of girls it hang around with. Everyone is kind of experimenting and going out with each other and this, that and the other. And my mate was going out of another lady and it was kind of a. No, I it was, it was in agreement that on this day that they were going to meet and they were going to, you know, lose their the plates together.

00:28:35:18 – 00:28:56:09
Yeah. Yeah. And it happened in, behind a park. So, you know, there's a wooded area by a park and we kind of knew this is going to happen to me and a few mates in the park. We. Yeah, it was like it was. It was behind the park. It was off the beaten track, not reared. I mean, the trees were covered, but there wasn't really cover.

00:28:56:09 – 00:29:18:01
And it's quite close to, a walking path as well. So me and my mates knew this is going to happen. We hung back, saw them go off in the distance, and then we went down the path and then got off the path so they wouldn't hear our footsteps. And we were the other side of the path and we could see them and we're like, shit, are they actually going to do it?

00:29:18:01 – 00:29:39:01
Because we haven't done it by this point? So we didn't know what was going on. We're like, and it is actually good. How old are you guys? I think we were like 15 somewhere around 14 or 15. Yeah. And then, we see them lying down and it's this happening, this game on. And by that time, right, we were lying down on the floor.

00:29:39:04 – 00:29:58:08
You were lying. There was. Yeah. We were like looking. Yeah, exactly like that. Exactly like that. Like snipers. Then there was a path and then further on from the path and a bit further into the woods, we could say, you know, it wasn't like, you could see everything, you know, the ins and outs and all of that.

00:29:58:08 – 00:30:23:21
It was just, you know, two bodies on top of each other. One wearing Adidas poppers, jogging bottoms and the other, I don't know what they're wearing. But anyway, you know, when you just kind of, like, lying there and, it's going on, you know, the whole darn shooting match is happening. And then we were like, throwing stones because we thought it'd be funny and then spoil the mood.

00:30:23:23 – 00:30:42:17
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like spoil the mood. And then there was that realization, you know, we stuck there and we can't really move and I'm watching my mate. This is Jenny, and it just got a bit weird. Yeah. But it's one of those. It was one of those times. It's like, you know, I was there for that. It was there it was.

00:30:42:17 – 00:31:14:08
I went matey. Yeah, I was there. I was lying in the ground like a sniper watching. Yeah. I, I lost my virginity in to a girl who was, She. We lived in Tottenham. She lived in Tottenham? Yeah. We went round her mate's house and, There were loads of people there. And we ended up going into one of the bedrooms.

00:31:14:10 – 00:31:35:13
Right. And I told her that I'd slept with two different people before her, but I hadn't, I've met. I'd never had my willy inside someone else before. Okay. The start off started off in a bad fit with lies. Yeah, but you just wanted to say the truth, right? You just didn't want to set it to. If you wanted to, to to impress.

00:31:35:15 – 00:31:58:15
Yeah. And the reality is, I lied, and it became evident that I lied very quickly, because, well, obviously I didn't last very long. It wasn't helped by the fact that people were banging on the doors and banging on the window. So there was like a room that kind of it was had a hallway next to it, and a kitchen that went down.

00:31:58:15 – 00:32:26:14
You could go out the kitchen, you can go up the alleyway, which the window to the bedroom watched out on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So having sex for the first time and people just banging and making animal noises and shit like that through the, the window, these people I barely knew as well. Good. The same. The same girl took me to a trap house in Tottenham once, which was just up where a weed house, basically where people would come and buy weed and there was no windows.

00:32:26:14 – 00:32:51:03
There were all bricked up from the inside, and there was a gate that you had to get through for an intercom. And when you got in there, all the windows, like I said, were bricked up and there was no real light other than like light bulbs. And there was a geezer who ran this house, and there were two other guys who were very scary looking.

00:32:51:05 – 00:33:12:12
Oh, God. And they, there was a literally a shutter on the side of the building, a small one, which is like the size of, like a 94 shot, like A4 paper. And I people go like an eight for or whatever. You'd open the shot, they would exchange and then fuck off out and obviously all the lock. Yeah it was mate.

00:33:12:12 – 00:33:31:09
I never told you to see what I was about. I assume about 17, 18. Oh, God, that sounds great. I know it's in Tottenham. Is in Tottenham. Yeah. And, and I rang her because I didn't touch her wrong. It's, I remember when we went to that and there was and she went yeah, yeah. And I went that was, that was fucking terrible idea.

00:33:31:11 – 00:33:48:09
And obviously the passing spliffs around and you know what I'm like what weed. I'm terrible with it. Yeah. I had to smoke. Yeah. It's funny, I didn't I so imagine how bad I am now. What was it like then. Mate. Yeah, mate. I mean, the scary one. That was one of the ones you should think, shouldn't be here.

00:33:48:10 – 00:34:10:24
This could go badly wrong. Yeah, I did one of these when I was working at. And I'd run out of weed and someone that I was working. We've said I've got a number for er. And they're in those flats opposite. I was a sweet man. So I've got this number, I text them, they said, who is this? And I said, you know, someone's mate.

00:34:10:24 – 00:34:32:06
And they said, what you want. And I said, Henry. And then, I went there and it was like on the sixth floor or something like that. So as I got there, it was all propagated up and I was like, fucking oh, man, this is this feels really horrible, but I really want that weed. So let's do that then.

00:34:32:12 – 00:34:51:14
Yeah. So then I went there and I press the intercom and they let me in. They lock that door and there was another gate and then they open that door. So I was like, you know, sandwich fruit. There was like bars on all the windows and stuff like that was all dark in there. There was no there was literally like a sofa.

00:34:51:16 – 00:35:18:15
No other furniture. There was a dog in there. But, you know, when dogs are training to piss or whatever, one of those mats, and they. Yeah. Yeah. And it was just soaked in place and it stank and there was loads of people in there. And then I was like, oh, I'm just here for some weed. And they were like, you know, asking me questions, trying to see who I was, where I come from, all of that.

00:35:18:20 – 00:35:34:23
I like copper or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I was like, fuck you, now this is on top, or I just came in for a bit of weed. That was it, man. Like, I just need to get it and get out. And I got the weed. It was terrible weed. It was Thai weed. And it just had loads of seeds in it, and I just, I was just not happy with it.

00:35:35:00 – 00:35:54:22
But anyway. Yeah, I mean, that is I mean, I had a recent one where, I was in Ireland and I got a number there's like this I thought how we got actually some of this like a it's like it was on Instagram or something. No, no, I can't remember what it was, but it's an A number. It was given to us by someone who lived there.

00:35:54:24 – 00:36:28:20
Yeah. And, texted him and said, I'm going to be here at this stage. And they weren't. Yeah. No worries. At this pub. Oh. Excuse me. Okay, Jess, we're at this pub. A beta at this time, and that's fine. And then obviously, the light, because they're not Albanian, right? You know, and the reason why the Albanians, apart from all the violence and shit, cornered the drug market in London is because they are on time and always available.

00:36:28:22 – 00:36:55:02
Good. Actually, my experiences with them really polite. Yeah. I don't ever tell you the story. Like I met this guy. I got the number from when I was in Bethnal Green, and it turns out that these guys, they deliver anywhere in London, no matter where you are, they're always 25 minutes away. So me and, I've got this number, and he got in a car and he asked me my name and I said, That's Gary.

00:36:55:04 – 00:37:22:19
And where are you from? Holloway. It goes cool, what do you want? And I said, I want this. And I didn't use his number again for about eight months. And I was in London Bridge and I think it was like a works out. And I rang him again. I'd text him again. He pulled up and he went, Gary and I went, how the fuck do you remember me?

00:37:22:19 – 00:37:37:16
Like I don't remember you? I didn't realize I called you, And maybe he had. My number is Gary from Holloway, but it was like, oh, no, I do remember you. You ordered this. It was at this place we met in Bethnal Green and I was like, this is insane. You remember too much. This is a little bit scary.

00:37:37:18 – 00:37:57:23
But since then, yeah, he's always been, like, cool. Like a service. Yeah. Where? Wherever you are. Luckily, that's part of my life. That's. Well, in the past now, but, Yeah, it was, it was sensational service. Anyway, in Ireland, different. Very different. They don't have the Albanians to contend with, as far as I could tell.

00:37:58:00 – 00:38:17:02
And so they're very lax in their sexuality and also very rude and also super, super Irish. So I couldn't understand what they were fucking saying. And I was at the meeting and we're here. We're here with my baby little, my little look. Right. But not to really quickly I was like, I don't I'm from England. I don't know what you're saying.

00:38:17:02 – 00:38:33:02
You have to speak more clearly. I got in this car and there were there's two blokes and you're like, I'm going to get a shotgun. We'll get kneecapped. That's what it felt like. Yeah. In and out. Have the money ready. Be on your own like that. It was all right. Oh. So stressful. This is so stressful. I don't even want it.

00:38:33:04 – 00:39:05:03
Yeah, that was a bit, Yeah, I, got be on your own. It's. Oh, yeah. That's that. That's why you do it. Because you want it. Exactly. It's doing the day. You've got to do anything now for us to talk about this part and the I was there, we were the it would be you know, I couldn't mention it without mentioning football and Tottenham reaching the Champions League final.

00:39:05:05 – 00:39:30:14
I was fortunate enough to get myself a ticket by that point, all the flights, because, you know, it was Liverpool and Tottenham. All the flights out of England to Madrid had been taken, and all the flights to other places in Europe where people were trying to connect and get to Madrid had been taken. So it was a very difficult journey to make.

00:39:30:16 – 00:39:56:21
And I remember my dad, he was kind of like, Rick, we've reached the Champions League final. One of our family has to be there. It's kind of like, you know, to the history books when, you know, when I'm been in gone and my kids have had kids and have kids and we all support Tottenham and it's like, oh, we got to the Champions League final.

00:39:56:21 – 00:40:18:14
Yeah, yeah, great great grandad Ricky was there, he was there, he was there. And you have to have your name etched in history to do that. And I felt like, like Indiana Jones. I'd been given this assignment and I had, you know, planes, trains, all of my bills, all the way to Madrid. So that is one of my.

00:40:18:16 – 00:40:56:24
I was there immense. Absolutely wasn't the happiest of occasions. But, you know, in my, in my family's history books and supporting Tottenham as obviously one of the ones that I was there and then the most recent one, the the Europa League final, again, I, I didn't have enough loyalty points to get myself a ticket. And by, you know, way of luck, I suppose that I was able to secure two tickets in the UAE for Bala in the Tottenham end.

00:40:57:01 – 00:41:14:16
And again, I didn't want to book flights and all that lot because I didn't have a ticket. And then by the time I did, all the flights had gone. Everything, every mode of transport to get to be about gone. Yeah, again, another English team. So it's very hard to get out of England to this place to get to Bilbao.

00:41:14:18 – 00:41:44:09
But my father and I, at this time, my dad came with me, when I went to Madrid last time, I was on my own about with a mutual friend, David. Alfie would and went together. But this time, I was there with my old man. And that was. I think it's probably in terms of football and supporting your team, to watch your team win a European trophy on foreign soil and be in the stadium for it.

00:41:44:09 – 00:42:09:14
That is my that's going to be my pinnacle. I was there, I don't think anything now supporting Tottenham going forward. I'd love to think that it's going to be something better for me, but I have that one to I am to to cradle and hold like of. Do you not think about all of the ball like all the traveling, all that you go, oh, I'll be fast.

00:42:09:16 – 00:42:33:22
Yeah, course I do. I make it so why do it? Because, yeah, I have to be there. I don't, I don't feel that need a sense of watching it somewhere and, and I feel like I have to be there, and I still have that. I still have that. I still have that, I'm not. Yeah. I think this is the difference between you, you and I, Ricky.

00:42:33:22 – 00:42:53:06
Is that like. Yeah, it's almost like when we go somewhere, it's like you have to get the most out of everything. Yeah, that's hundred percent true. Yeah. Like you've got to see everything and you've got to do the thing and you have to be there. Yeah, yeah. Whereas I'm like, much more passive. I don't think we do have to see everything.

00:42:53:08 – 00:43:20:24
No, I think we do have to be. Do we have to see really. Do we. I'm sure we have to go to the exhibition. Do we, do we have to see that building? You really want to walk around that corner? The rink? There is a pub just there. I can see it. And as I'm getting older, I'm getting so, so much more sedentary and I want to do loads of stuff, but I also don't want to do anything and I'm really comfortable and happy with it.

00:43:21:01 – 00:43:39:09
Yeah, you know what I mean? I'd love, I'd like to not like like now go to when I was a kid. Go. No, not a day to sit on a lot. It's unloaded literally thousands and travel thousands of miles to do nothing. Yeah. Would have been like hell. Now it's like, is it all inclusive? Perfect, I don't know, I'm sorry.

00:43:39:09 – 00:44:02:10
I just, I, I just, threw up as you slow down, I think. Yeah. Well, I mean, I like. Yeah, I've got a I've got to get a new crop. My lease is up my car for a day, and I'm thinking, I've got a car. It's fast. It's the fastest Cupra Leon. Right. So it's a nippy little Skoda hot hatch.

00:44:02:12 – 00:44:23:06
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's quite nippy. Oh, yes it is. It's it's fast and it goes when it, when you take it, when you go off there's like a turbo in it. And I don't know if that's good. I don't know if this it. Yeah. It's, it's got all that shit. But if I, when I have to replace it with something, I'm going to get some comfortable slow.

00:44:23:08 – 00:44:49:10
I want to slow down Rick. Like drive my missus car. She's got like an X-Trail. Like a Nissan X-Trail. Yeah. It's it's like being on a sofa at home. That's how comfortable the sea is. Oh, fuck. You know, warm seats as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like my, although my, my car is still in the garage and it's, you know, we know the faults of it, but it's really a nice, comfortable SUV style car.

00:44:49:12 – 00:45:14:23
Leather seats, heated seats, computer, diesel, all that lot. Right. So I enjoy driving it, but when I drove my dad's, mini micron micro esque car, it was, you know, basic, very, very basic. There's no digital in there. There's not what he your that's that's called he drove down Brighton of that. Yeah. The Kit Picanto. Yeah.

00:45:15:00 – 00:45:42:16
And I kind of enjoyed that. There was no lights and sounds and signals telling me that I'm doing this or going there or that, you know, you know, it was just a draw it. I was just driving. I was able to relax and drive without stuff beeping at me and shit like that. And I was just like, I quite enjoy this, you know, it was a bit, you know, I wouldn't pay what most cars for overtaking me all the time.

00:45:42:16 – 00:46:09:13
And I'm like trying to push the car to go faster. Yeah, that it was a bit annoying. But you know what? Didn't need it were really in a hurry. Yeah, no, not really in a hurry. Like that. And I man like so I think my next car I would like to I don't mind that it has all the, the pros and all that lot, but, yeah, I kind of, I do know what you mean, but I got the second saying that you want that you want the company that.

00:46:09:14 – 00:46:33:10
Yeah, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want the comfortable car that cost a fucking fortune. That's what I want. But I'm not sure I can have that. Like, I've never, like, this is the first time Rick of my in my life. I've been poor before. I've not had money, but my outgoings were significant. So yeah, I would like when I was in my late 20s, early 30s when I was proper broke.

00:46:33:12 – 00:46:52:23
Yeah. When I was working for that charity on fucking 23 grand a year or something in London and, when I'd get to the end and, you know, there was loads of stuff being spent on stupid stuff like gear and could drink. Yeah, yeah. So we'd run out of money like 14 days before the end of the month and think, how am I going to survive?

00:46:52:24 – 00:47:13:11
I know I will have done this before, but I can't conceivably think about how I'm going to afford to feed myself over the next two weeks. But I just found a way. I don't know what it was, whether it's just eating pasta or whatever it was. Just found a way. But now it's different because there's outgoings everywhere.

00:47:13:13 – 00:47:39:21
Yeah. And like cars. And we got the house and bills and the builder and I'm like, I can't really figure out how I'm going to pay for this shit at the moment. Yeah, I know it's going to be fine. I think it's going to be fine. But I don't really 100%. No, no, no. Like if you do a spreadsheet and you work it out and go, right, these are my outgoings, this is my income, we're fine.

00:47:39:23 – 00:48:11:09
Yeah. I can't do that because I can't tell what the outgoings are because building a house is very vague about how what I say. Yeah. So so so bills come in and you're like oh that's more than I thought. Right. How do I fix this problem? And that's, that's what I've been dealing with for the last because we got quoted for the House all in, it was about 89 grand to do up do up the house.

00:48:11:11 – 00:48:33:09
A burden on me and the missus had been saving for a house for 5 or 6 years. So we have we have an amount of money. And my dad also because he inherited a load of money, he said, when you buy a house, I'm gonna give you this amount of money as well. Yeah. So we had a combined amount of just under around that combined.

00:48:33:11 – 00:48:43:15
Okay. And I was like, okay, well that's what we can do. It. It's nowhere near that. Rick is so much more.

00:48:43:17 – 00:49:01:20
You know, it's so much more money. It's like I thought, this is going to be 89 grand. Because you start doing it and shit turns up in your life. Yeah. It's an 18th century cottage. The walls falling down. You've got to rebuild the wall. What was the angle house? Was you to have a wall of a wall.

00:49:01:22 – 00:49:21:13
And then you, like, you talk to the builder, and and he's giving you ideas and you're like, yeah, we want to do that. We want the fireplace, and we want all this stuff done. And then you actually know this. Yeah. 89ft more. 130, 140. Oh, hell. Oh, that is not a, I'm not starving. I'm not being blown up.

00:49:21:16 – 00:49:49:15
I'm not living in a part of the world where people can only dream of these problems. So, yeah, I have to be grateful of my situation, and I am. Yeah. Although it's quite scary how not to be scared. Even though grateful. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Cause make I mean again like you have got that but then obviously, you know, you the, the kind of like, like you're, the, I was gonna say responsible adult.

00:49:49:15 – 00:50:11:02
That's not the right word that you're. Yeah. You know, a main provider within the house. How I'm looking after kids. You misses all of that stuff. Responds to you running your own business. All of that. And a building project as well. I mean, I can imagine that that is fun. You don't really. You just think about. You just think about.

00:50:11:05 – 00:50:31:14
You don't think about it. You just keep going. Do you know, I think giving you a rough idea when you can. Well, we're going to have it, I notice. So we're going to be there for two months. Probably moving soon. Oh, finished. It's not finished, but. Right. That's that's good. As long as you can get in and you can, you know, make do.

00:50:31:14 – 00:51:03:10
That's fine. That's fine. Before we, finish up, I do want to say one last, I was there, and it's a personal one to me, and it won't really mean anything to anyone, but it will, if you know what I mean. And it was my Mrs. giving birth. That is one of the most. Craziest experiences I've ever had in my life.

00:51:03:12 – 00:51:34:11
It is on a roller coaster for hours, gripping the side of my seat, not knowing what the fuck is going on, watching my the person that you love in insane pain, and trying to obviously give birth. But it's one of those moments that, you know, and I, you know, I'm in there, you know, I'm not. I have to have a little look down the business and see what's going on.

00:51:34:13 – 00:52:09:23
So it's just kind of like, you know, having that entire moment, being in that environment and being so fucking stressed. And I'm not the one bloody giving birth. I just thought that I would give that an honorable mention because when you're there in the midst of what's going on of someone birthing another person, yeah, it was a fucking a, my, my brother Ryan doesn't talk about it in the same way.

00:52:10:00 – 00:52:32:06
Wow. Oh, fuck. So, unfortunately, one of their children and they were free, beautiful, healthy children. But one of them had to be born by C-section because it was the safest thing to do at that time. It wasn't like a pre, it was just the pregnancy went the way it went in that to have a C-section. Yeah.

00:52:32:08 – 00:53:02:17
And they said, do you want to cut the umbilical cord and that Ryan's. Oh yeah, obviously. Yeah. He walks round the, the curtain to cut the umbilical cord. And Jackie, his wife, is open. Her belly is open like the, they have covered the wound. Yeah, yeah. So he's seen everything. Oh, God. So he's like, you know, God wants to literally make us.

00:53:02:19 – 00:53:28:15
Yeah. Although this isn't a very PC joke, but it does make me chuckle because I don't believe it. All right, I'm right. Yeah, but the someone said once, and I don't condone this attitude at all. Right? Okay. Ladies listening. But it is comedy, so maybe that's okay. Yeah, but he said watching your wife give birth is like watching your favorite pub burn down.

00:53:28:17 – 00:53:53:23
Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah, it's a good joke. Well, I mean, it's it's I mean, it's partially true, isn't it? Is it. I don't know, yeah. You know, I've seen who what it I think who coined that little phrase and they obviously didn't make it up to James Corden. He said that joke. Oh really? Yeah. Maybe it isn't a good.

00:53:54:00 – 00:54:20:22
Concert. They did not. Yeah yeah I, I can't I can't yeah I can't they can't do that. But I do want to say we're going to bounce now actually before we do that. So the, the topic was that I was there moments right. I just want to list off a few that we were we were there. But everyone that was listening was almost certainly there too.

00:54:20:24 – 00:54:46:24
But it was a collective. We were there. Now how in ranking this, like how much of these do you think will still be talked about in 20, 30, 40 years time? So the death of Princess Diana. Oh, we we always remember that one way. Yeah. I mean was a that's a big bugger. That one. Yeah. The millennium bug.

00:54:47:01 – 00:55:28:16
Remember when it was like 99 to 2000? Apparently all the cache points we're going to spill in a. Bless you. Spit it out money. Yeah. Computers are going to be reset things. We're going to fall out of the sky then. Nothing. Nothing nothing nothing nothing fucking happened. Obviously that this is a big one. 911 that is that the 911 is probably was I was in a little, shed house in Crouch End Crescent and, we were watching neighbors and it suddenly cut out of a picture of one of the two twin towers, one of them smoking before the second plane hit.

00:55:28:18 – 00:55:52:24
It was like an emergency broadcast. Wow. What do you mean, you're in a shared house? You remember Mick? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was his shit house. Right. Okay. Right. Right? Right. Yeah. I was I was at my first job that I ever had in this warehouse, called dress. And it's one of the most fun jobs I've ever had.

00:55:52:24 – 00:56:11:15
And we heard the news. We all went running into the boardroom and was watching one of the big fuck off TVs and just watching the news. Yeah. And then the second plane hit and everyone was like, fuck, you know, no one did any work that day. Everyone was just talking about it. No one could understand what was going on.

00:56:11:17 – 00:56:38:08
It was madness. Yeah. It's crazy. What else you got? Covid 19. That's going to be spoken about. I know millions of people died, but I did write it. You write it. Not the not the not the the the deaths, not the deaths. Obviously my nan died of it, right? Not right, but okay, so I didn't write that, but obviously I, I, the whole lockdown thing was the most exciting part.

00:56:38:10 – 00:57:06:04
The. So exciting. Yeah, it was interesting and captivating every single day. You were you were you were tapping into the news like waiting for what Boris Johnson was going to say next. Yeah. And I remember being I got a job at, because I wasn't, I was having to work freelance, before I left my job, but boucherie to work on the fighting cock full time, but it wasn't bringing enough money, so I had to get work where I could.

00:57:06:06 – 00:57:42:10
Yeah. And I managed to get this, freelance job doing on on the, Jamie Redknapp and Harry Redknapp show that they were. Yeah I remember yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was doing the football settlement element to the show. So my job was to produce that part of it basically. But we were about four weeks in and Covid started to hit and I, we were watching this website, this bloke created a website and it was just showing you all of the the different infections that were happening around the world and how quickly it was happening.

00:57:42:12 – 00:58:05:19
Yeah. And we went from being from saying, this is fine, everyone just carry on as normal. Yeah, literally about three hours later, everyone pack your laptops up, tell him we're shutting it down. It was mad how quickly that move. Because I was at work in my office. My boss was like, this is pretty serious and weird because I was like a working, an arm's length body of the government.

00:58:05:19 – 00:58:25:06
So we're getting, like, direct messages from the gov. Yeah. And and they were like, you know, it looks like by the end of today, we're all going to go home and we won't be coming back into the office within an hour. It was like lunchtime. We just have to go home. And then it turned again. It was like, everyone just pack your bags.

00:58:25:06 – 00:58:47:17
Now we're all we're all working from home. We, I so I was in London and obviously living in Wiltshire, but because I had this job, I was in London and I'm like, it was like two days before, pack up, go home. Yeah. And I'm thinking I'm going to have to leave because I cannot be stuck in London.

00:58:47:19 – 00:59:05:11
I yeah, if they lock this down, I cannot be stuck in London. I have to go home. So I spoke to Ollie and I'm pretty sure this is going to this is the news is suggesting that a lockdown could happen. Has been spoken about. Not seriously, but it just feels like that's what's going to happen. Yeah. So I was like, I'm getting on a train and going on.

00:59:05:11 – 00:59:30:14
I went home thankfully, and they locked it all down and I was sort, stuck in the countryside like our friend, a fellow, a mutual friend, Lee's. He decided to get a plane to to Ireland was the last place. Yeah, yeah, that's his misses. I was stuck in Crawley, with his mum. That it? Yeah. That's one of my favorite things that no one talks about anymore.

00:59:30:14 – 00:59:53:01
Do you remember eat out to help out? Yeah. Got just going out to all the all the restaurants where you live and everything is half price. Fucking brilliant. It's maddening. It's like, oh, we've got to get the economy back on track and then it's like, let's get everyone get me up again and start eating and drinking. And you're like, well, well, and then I'll know another lockdown.

00:59:53:01 – 01:00:13:01
You like what you kind of feel like. You should know that. You should. Yeah. Like we're punters. We're normal people. We're looking to you to lead here. Surely have the information. We're going to do what you tell us to do, because that's just the nature of, of, of government and society and how it works. People generally listen to those in authority, but it's created another wave of infections.

01:00:13:03 – 01:00:27:13
And you do you remember it? So when we go to the pub, right, you'd have to book your table and you'd be sitting at your table. But then when you went to go to the toilet, you'd have to put your mask on to walk to the toilet, to to come back to your table and stop talking and spitting in everyone's faces.

01:00:27:15 – 01:00:45:14
I, Steve, I remember to remember when it was we were first allowed to go to a pub, and I think you could meet in groups of 20, right? Yeah. And we went in and because obviously we missed, we had to I went back twice because of Covid. And so we just thought we'd meet up on the day we were going to get married.

01:00:45:14 – 01:01:05:20
We'd all meet up in London. My brothers. My. Yeah. Are you okay? Yeah, yeah. Good mates and, tea turned up in a mask, like one of those visors and, and the face mask and the face mask. Right. And he's like. Which is the one, you know, he's protecting themselves and protecting others. We had a couple of beers.

01:01:05:20 – 01:01:32:09
They all went out a window, and that's what happens. It. And I remember looking at his visor, it was on the floor. And people would be like, yeah, so stupid. Yeah, go out and spend money. Nighttime, for the Queen London bombings in 2005 and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. What is your what's your, number one out of all of those?

01:01:32:11 – 01:01:58:15
Number one. But in terms of the most captivating and, like, out of body experience, be 911. Yeah. 911 is tough in it. Yeah. Top top tier. But in terms of surreal, I'd say the lockdowns just bizarre. Homeschooling that. Oh God, that was a fucking nightmare. How long did you last? We gave up. We gave up my. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:58:16 – 01:02:24:02
Fairly quickly. I'm like, this is what I was like. I was speaking to my mum. She went, Gary, this may never happen again. I like to go out and play and they can just relax and they can, you know. So because I was stressing over the homeschooling because it was so difficult, it's difficult. I have honestly I have a since then.

01:02:24:04 – 01:02:54:10
I didn't really think much about teachers. They have an in really difficult job. I really do respect teachers because I'm looking at the boys and I'm like, bro, what's what's seven plus eight? Yeah. What's if I, if if I've got eight apples. Right. And you take four away. How many apples of my left. Seven. What. What do you mean seven?

01:02:54:12 – 01:03:19:10
Look how many or I'm holding eight of these. I'll take four away. How many is left in my hand? And what I've learned is that pressure means that their brains don't work. Because you put pressure, you're getting frustrated, and their little brains are not. I love that since and I've been simplifying stuff he was talking about, he was the maths problems in in primary school.

01:03:19:12 – 01:03:51:23
I didn't understand, yeah, I finally I, you know, mine's exactly the same. Exactly same with, my daughter as well. My youngest. And the thing you were saying about, like, the frustration and teachers and the respect that you have, like, even though I know that I'm being fresh, getting frustrated, and I'm saying it in a way of like, if I had four apples, four, and I'm doing it really, like condescending and just being the knob, I can't help it, you know?

01:03:51:23 – 01:04:10:10
I mean, because the frustration it just gets, it just gets the better of me and even not not school stuff like, I'll say my daughter should walk past and be like, what have you got? And she's like, I've got some slime and I've put this in it and I'm not. Yes. Right. Okay. Just, just get on with it.

01:04:10:12 – 01:04:14:12
Yeah. I just, I want say it.

01:04:14:14 – 01:04:37:04
What dog poo I was, I was, I was that one, right. White dog poo was a thing. Yeah. Where is that gone. That it's it's like it's to do with the food. The dog. It's it I've had I don't know, it's just that everyone's picking up that I know. They know what, like, no, it's, it's the thing with the.

01:04:37:06 – 01:05:04:18
I think it's a chalk or something in the food. And that's what made the dog's poo. What? Wow. I think we talked about this on this book. I don't know, I know, I don't remember fucking now. Oh, wait. That's another thing. That kind of, how is the society? Did we go from dogs to shitting everywhere and everyone being right about it to now everyone has to pick up their dog poo.

01:05:04:20 – 01:05:25:19
Now, when did that there wasn't a massive campaign of everyone must pick up the like. Everyone just started doing it. I'm not. I'm well on board with that. Everyone pick up your dog shit. But there was just kind of like a switch in society. When? When did that happen? I mean, I feel you should have always picked up your dog poo, mate.

01:05:25:21 – 01:05:53:16
Is not 90s fucking dog shitting everywhere. The amount of times you got to play football and you got shit all over. Yeah, that was good. The sliding tackle when you like that shit. So I all over me. You wouldn't go, oh, no. Nice car. Yeah. Right. We've got dilemmas and something on. You know, the dilemma is called it can't go on like this and something only you know is mum will know what to do.

01:05:53:22 – 01:06:20:16
The topic for next week. We've had two submissions on the same thing, so I think we'll do it. Someone wrote an email them and they put. They were watching a program and someone was described as aggressively British. What does that mean? And we had another email. What are the things that are so British? So I just thought, why don't we get a part about being British?

01:06:20:18 – 01:06:45:08
Yeah. What British? What what's your British culture? What does British culture mean to you? Is it visually like a red telephone box and letterbox? Is a form in a queue, as we all do, and love in Britain? Or is it something like free drinks before the actual drinks? That's what makes me proud to be British, by the way.

01:06:45:12 – 01:07:17:08
That's that's the thing that I love the most, is that before we're going out on a night out fucked up, why don't we go around someone's house before we get fucked up and get fucked up before we get fucked up? Get two fucked up, and then you. You see about every fucking. I love that. And anything that you're proud to be British about, anything that you're embarrassed to be, anything that you just, you know, want to mention about being British, send in to lads anon pot at gmail.com and we will read them out.

01:07:17:10 – 01:07:19:22
Now we're going to go into dilemma.

01:07:20:16 – 01:07:50:10
Oh just tired. And you got a tissue for a tissue. You big that at least a naked English. So I leave you flat. Please talk to freaking your flat head. Let that stretch off your chest. What do you think you deserve? Like your thighs need to get nice warm between waking and.

01:07:50:12 – 01:08:22:11
It can't go on like this. That's a delicate one, and I'm not sure you can answer. I'm fucked if I know my wife and I have three beautiful boys. We both have decent careers, a lovely home, family holidays nobody goes without. And we're very, very grateful. But the one thing that's missing is intimacy with my wife. I'm not talking just about sex, but we don't kiss, cuddle or show each other any affection in brackets.

01:08:22:11 – 01:08:50:04
Not from the one of me trying, though. I understand life is tiring, stressful. There's no time. But the last time we had sex was two and a half to three years ago. I've tried initiating, but getting rejected all the time is demoralizing. So I stopped ages ago. I've tried to talk about it seriously with her, changed it up to drunken casual chats and even banter.

01:08:50:06 – 01:09:13:07
But the subject always quickly changes at times it feels like we're two single parents sharing a bed together. I love her, I love the family we've created for our beautiful boys. But I can't go on like this. I'm emotionally drained and checked out. I feel alone and I can't talk to anyone about this. But you boys, please tell me this is normal.

01:09:13:09 – 01:09:46:01
You've experienced similar or I have nothing to worry about. What do I do? Let's. Well, we know, we know, you know. Free after free. Okay. Want to free breakfast? Yeah. No, don't do that. I look, I think there's parts of firstly, no, that isn't a healthy relationship. And those, those are things you quite rightly. You want to receive.

01:09:46:03 – 01:10:18:01
And it's not people. I think people, especially when it's from a man's perspective, people assume that it's sex is about relief or about, you know, getting off. Yeah. Well, actually, sex and moreover, intimacy is so important. And if you don't receive it, you, you, you feel you feel all the things that he's just described are exactly how you do feel.

01:10:18:03 – 01:10:37:01
And, and I've said this before, but any women listening to this, and you want your, you want to make your husband's day. I'm not going to say give him a blowjob. I'm going to say go up to him, cut it in from behind, unsolicited, and kiss him on the neck and then walk away. It will fill his world up, I promise.

01:10:37:03 – 01:10:59:23
Yeah, it won't mean he's immediately going to spin around. Want to have sex? It doesn't mean any of that does with Ricky. But most people it doesn't. Yeah, yeah. And you're just fulfilling them. You're just. Just giving a little tenderness. And then archetypal man's world. Quite difficult. It's quite rough. Quite hard. You having to deal with other men constantly.

01:11:00:00 – 01:11:22:07
If you're in a certain environment, you have to be competitive. If you're super successful, you're competing against other people. And that moment that a wife can give you of just relief from what's going on inside your brain constantly, it's honestly, it's worth its weight in gold. And that's what this guy's missing. Yeah.

01:11:22:09 – 01:11:50:13
If you've tried to. You've tried. Totally tried talking about it. Yeah. It's not about sex. It's about intimacy. It's because, I mean, you could, in in that instance, I guess, if you're absolutely, completely neglected, that while this isn't a good idea, you know, you there are professional services out there that you can you can use that that I guess no one need know about.

01:11:50:14 – 01:12:15:08
But ultimately, it feels like something will happen. And, you'll end up having an affair, or you'll find in someone else what you're not getting in in front of your wife. I think. Or you just like this forever. Yeah. And if you've tried to instigate something. And. Look, I'm all saying this is definitely an absolute. I don't know, I'm not a counselor.

01:12:15:08 – 01:12:38:10
I haven't got any clues about how to actually advise you, but you're asking for the advice, and this is all I can give. If she's not willing to. To even give you, you know, cuddle a kiss. It's. That isn't enough. You can't live like that. It's not fair on both of you. And and you can't dictate when the intimacy dies in a relationship.

01:12:38:10 – 01:13:00:02
You can't control that. It's not. It's impossible to. And it happens in many relationships that were completely loving once. But you really need to have an honest and frank conversation with her. And she may not be willing to do that because she may be scared about what she might say. But something that has to change. You can't live like that forever.

01:13:00:04 – 01:13:25:21
Know you said all the things you're feeling are significant, right? Yeah, completely. I mean, there are times where, like, telling it like this is normal. Have you experienced similar and you have lows I yeah, exactly. There is like, what happened recently? I'm quite a to I'm very a touchy feely type, person in a relationship and it makes me feel, secure and loved.

01:13:25:21 – 01:13:52:23
And I'm not talking about just, you know, sex, but just the physicality of, someone being there, that closeness and that connection where my message is quite, What's the word I'm looking for? It's, like, task orientated of showing, of affection, like if, she's out and she comes back in and I've hoovered the house, done the dishwasher.

01:13:52:23 – 01:14:17:24
And that for her is that's her kind of, I'm showing affection in that way because she knows that's what I would like. But there are times, like leading up to my daughter's birthday recently. Now I know my Mrs.. Her mind is everywhere. She's, she's, you know, starting her own business. She's sort in the stuff out for my daughter's birthday.

01:14:18:05 – 01:14:40:16
She sort in other stuff out. Her mind is absolutely filled. And the last thing that's on her mind is intimacy or sex or whatever. But there was, like, 4 or 5 days where we were lying in bed together. And nine times out of ten, when we go to sleep, we are touching. Now might be a leg over a leg, our feet are touching whatever.

01:14:40:16 – 01:15:02:12
We're very close. But we were like laying. It was like there were two single beds pushed against each other and there was like a divide. Now I know that her mind was so focused on other things, and it wasn't about me or our relationship. It it just made me feel so distant. Do you know what I mean? That and it made me sad.

01:15:02:14 – 01:15:22:19
And it you know, I've just. Yeah, I was gonna say what? You fucking love it. So I'm listening to you, right? And then I'm creating scenarios in my head about how you might, change the mood. And that's what made me laugh. So I was imagining you doing things. Not sexy. Yes. How I take it. Good.

01:15:22:21 – 01:15:50:09
I just imagined you getting up, like, naked for some reason and thinking about your naked, naked body walking around the room and, like, starting to talk to Donna and you. Just your hands on your hips. You will. That's what. That's what made me laugh. Sorry. No. Yes. Well, how did you resolve it? Well, I mean, I just let nature take its course, after the birthday was done, after everything done, we had people round for a takeaway.

01:15:50:09 – 01:16:12:17
We had people round all day dropping off presents. After a couple of days, everything settled down. I was lying there, and then, sure enough, leg comes over. Mine, comes over me and it's not back to that. Sometimes you got to give space or give room to breathe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even though on me I'm like, I'm, affection and that connection and that touch.

01:16:12:17 – 01:16:32:14
Does she not love me anymore? Like, hey, what's happening to us? So we drifted apart. Yeah. It's nothing. It's, you know, you get in your own head. Yeah. You break your pain, your brain starts working overdrive. I have that massively. Yeah. So, so although I know, like you're saying about that, this is like, turn off for a year and I'm saying 4 or 5 days or whatever.

01:16:32:19 – 01:17:00:06
I know this, it's different, but I'm just saying I can empathize with you in that short amount of time when I don't have that connection, it makes me feel sad. So I get that you're it's also you have a yearning and searching for so, so really common. Me really really common. I've just done a quick search and in in the UK, 23% of people in relationships report a lack of fit.

01:17:00:08 – 01:17:27:00
Physical intimacy is a major issue. That's 1 in 5 in America. It's 1 in 5, so it's not normal. I think you would be within your rights to go and speak to a counselor as well, not, not necessarily a marriage counselor at this stage, although that could well be a great idea. But just talk to someone in the field and speak to them and say like, because they'll reassure you about how common it is.

01:17:27:02 – 01:17:47:12
And there also have methods of of approaching it, but you can't not do nothing. Right. That's the desire. The desire is the easiest things to do. Nothing. The easiest things just carry on for the next two years. Not having sex, not being intimate, not talking about this stuff. And it's not easy because you're the only one willing to talk at this stage.

01:17:47:14 – 01:18:04:19
You cannot. This cannot be it forever. And I'm sure your wife doesn't want it to be that forever. Ever. Yeah. So I only on your own time to talk to a counselor and say, this is my problem. Can you help me attempt to resolve this? There'll be tons of people out there. If you can afford to do it.

01:18:04:21 – 01:18:28:23
Yeah, I don't I hadn't thought about that. As in going to I thought about relationship counseling, marriage counseling, but not as in an individual for start there this person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get advice and guidance for someone who isn't emotionally connected to it, who is unlike what we are, which is which is not equipped to really understand the situation other than personal experience, but someone who's trained, who understands these problems that are so common.

01:18:29:00 – 01:18:46:11
So that's what I that's what I would say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Good. Good advice. And, if I, if I meet you, I'll give you a hug. Okay. How about, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'll give you a hug. Yeah. So you've got that to look forward to. Write something. I know you know.

01:18:46:11 – 01:18:51:22
Wow. Something on me, you know?

01:18:51:22 – 01:19:11:09
My. And I will today. We're going back a few years to. When I was a kid, about 11. I was playing in the woods with my brother and cousins near my aunt's house when I realized I needed to take a poo, I excused myself from the rest, grabbed a couple of leaves to properly clean up afterwards, and headed for a bit of privacy.

01:19:11:10 – 01:19:29:21
What? What you just went home? Where did he. Where was he? Camping. Yeah, I think it's just playing in the woods. Maybe near his house. Near his aunt's house. He could run home. My aunt's. If I was ever in that situation. When I was a kid, when I went home, I think I would find the grab a bunch of leaves and find a tree to shit behind.

01:19:29:21 – 01:19:33:10
For fuck's sake.

01:19:33:12 – 01:20:09:04
So I dropped my shorts and squatted down and had my turn out there in the woods. Leaves used to clean up, back there and I pull my shorts up. Good to go. Only I wasn't good to go. What? What I didn't realize in my youthful inexperience is that when I squatted, I did sit directly over my shorts, depositing an entire load of shit into my underwear, which are then proceeded to pull up spots, making a right mess of everything down there.

01:20:09:06 – 01:20:32:13
I grabbed a few more leaves to scoop the poo out of my shorts, but the damage had already been done. My back's out an underwear with so shamefully she's made a mistake to go and find my mom. She know. What did they yellow tree. Everyone else had to go back to my aunt's house making up some excuse. It was such a long, uncomfortable and messy walk back.

01:20:32:18 – 01:20:52:03
Luckily, my mum was able to get me sorted but no one else the wiser and to this day is my most embarrassing public poo story. Yes, my oh my mum is dead now as I'm truly the only one alive that still knows this tale well. And that is something only I know. Sorry about that. That is a good story.

01:20:52:05 – 01:21:20:10
Yeah, yeah, that was a good story. I do, you know what? When I, read this, it it brought back another memory for now, it wasn't like, me, the goat going for poo. I've never thought about this in fucking years, but I used to play, World Cup doubles, write my mates back garden. Do you remember the old girl with the white girls that the powers that be clicking together and then have a, a white net?

01:21:20:12 – 01:21:37:08
And it was just a small garden. Small goal in the garden playing World Cup doubles. Imma make back guard and rule playing. And I've been paired up with this guy, and we're playing. And I'm not fucking asking about shit or looking in the grass. No shit. There's no shit anywhere. Karen. Thank God I can really smell shit.

01:21:37:08 – 01:21:57:22
I can. Where is it coming from? And as we you're playing this lad whose house it was, said Ricky, I need to speak to him in the in the, in the shed. So I said all right and say went in the shed. And he shut the door and he just pulled his pants down and he goes, I've done a pig.

01:21:57:24 – 01:22:15:18
And then was honestly the no, no, no. Yeah. In his own house. In his own house. Are you sure about it? I think he's right. He showed me there was a fight. There was an actual long log of a hole in his pants. And you know what he did? He pulled his pants up, and we just carried on playing.

01:22:15:18 – 01:22:42:15
Well, that was after that. That is fucking mental. What? Never thought of it. Yeah. That's talk to in the shed. They, That one was you. We must have been eight, nine, ten around that, Yeah. Around that, around that sensational man. Lovely stuff. Right. The topic for next week is British. What is being British mean to you?

01:22:42:17 – 01:23:07:21
Sending your answers to lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. And until Monday we will see you then. Patrons. We will see you now. Friday. Oh, I'm going to also I'm going to play I'm going to play a play us out. Alex Kamau Man on the moon album coming soon. Not man on the moon. Man is Quinn. No moon has got a grid.

01:23:07:23 – 01:23:23:14
Enjoy this. This is for switching. You know, man, he's the vibe. I'm bring him melancholic like the man upon the wall.

01:23:23:16 – 01:23:47:18
He's still if I. If I'm bringing by the moon. Good grief. Good good good good good. Green. It's not like lockdown. Like, the get me wrong, man. I'm at the moment like sitting on a rainy all day looking over a valley of all day. And then you miry clay. The sky will triumph and you think you might cry.

01:23:47:20 – 01:24:01:04
It resonates with a feeling of strength from another little death. The valiant might even bring it melancholic. Like the man upon the wall. Under.

01:24:01:06 – 01:24:11:00
The fiery bomb. Bringing the. The moon is blood green equal to green. Eagle green. The green.

01:24:11:02 – 01:24:40:10
Melancholy like. Reflect. What you got a little poem still strong. You bright like white on the sea. We still sing. Got birds on tree. Got a lot wild fascination for flight retailing for see next steps on quest. Next step in the valley is taste. For now I'm going to enjoy this rainy I'll be if I. If I'm drinking then click like the moon upon your eyes.

01:24:40:12 – 01:25:11:05
Is the fiery bomb. Bring in the. The moon is good. Green for the green is good. Green. The green is the vibe I'm bringing. Melancholic like the moon upon the wall I. It's the vibe I'm bringing. But the mood is good. Greekl greekl greekl. Green.

01:25:11:07 – 01:25:11:24
Oh.

00:00:00:01 – 00:00:30:14
Exciting, weekend for you, or is it exciting? Is it more stressful? Yeah. So finally, after. Since March, when we bought the house in March. It's moving weekend, but not moving in the conventional sense. Where? Come Sunday night, everything's going to be done, and we've left the house. Yeah. Okay. No, this is more of a sort of gray, nebulous move where we never really know when the end is in sight.

00:00:30:16 – 00:00:59:06
A soft move. Soft move is something. Yeah. So we're moving, like, beds and boxes over. But what we've realized now is that we've got to leave this house in some sort of state. That means that if they wanted to rent it again, that that they could. They can't. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's so old. It was really poorly put together.

00:00:59:08 – 00:01:19:13
The whole place needs rewiring. There hasn't been any carpet on the stairs for years. The last time we asked them, can you put some carpet in? They just ignored us. So there's, so there's things like there's a hole in Will's room, there's some Alcatraz even needs to be put in a new bathtub, needs to go in and stuff like that.

00:01:19:13 – 00:01:45:04
So I don't know, how do I feel? I feel like this is another part of this, whole stressful experience. Good good good good. Great stuff. Have you, started to actually like, stuff in boxes? Yeah, it's like boxing stuff up. No, no, no, some stuff is. So will you be this weekend? Will you be boxing stuff up?

00:01:45:06 – 00:02:10:06
Yeah. Boxing stuff up. Driving things over? Yeah. Yeah. Well, And how is your house livable? The, The new. The new. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's beautiful. So it's nearly there. Yeah, it needs painting and stuff. And the the floor needs to go down in the where you come in, like the lamp, the hallway. There's new flooring that needs go down.

00:02:10:06 – 00:02:28:18
But other than that, yeah. Oh, well, carpeting needs to go into the bedroom and, my office. But other than that, it's, pretty much. Well, it's not finished. It's never going to be finished. But it's livable. Yeah. It's warm. I mean, what what is there a time where you have to be out of your current home? Yes.

00:02:28:21 – 00:02:54:19
In January sometime. Right. Okay. January 19th. Some that maybe late January, us January. So we'll move everything out and then, and then we'll do whatever work they request done to the house, and then we'll be done with it. I would imagine. Fuck. Exciting, man. It's been exciting. Once I've paid all the invoices and I. I don't have to worry about anything.

00:02:54:20 – 00:03:10:13
That's when it will be exciting, right? Right. Now for that. Yeah. Right now it's not like, oh, great, we're moving house right now. I was like, how am I going to pay for everything? So I, I don't know, is this a great way to start a podcast? There's nothing fun or about this. Well, I mean, it's I think people are enjoying it.

00:03:10:13 – 00:03:41:17
Well, I'm so interested to, about the move. Yeah. Okay, fine. I got in a year. I'll be. I'll be excited in a year. Okay. And there's nothing literally like when you're. I'm excited that we're nearly there. I'm excited. Really? Because she doesn't. She's really excited. Yeah, but I have to concentrate on the very real thing about paying invoices on time and figuring out how I'm going to pay for the work that's ongoing.

00:03:41:19 – 00:03:59:11
Right. And then figuring out how to pay for the replacing of all the windows and then eventually thinking about how to replace the roof and then, at that point, I'll be able to relax. So about six years.

00:03:59:13 – 00:04:26:07
I kind of, noticed, in a very small way. My shower. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I just got the fuck. I just got my shower redone. Rebuilt. Like, proper rebuilt. The en suite shower, all the tiles and everything, you know, the whole lot. Maybe two, possibly three years ago. And noticed when I was having a shower, water start pooling just as you step out.

00:04:26:07 – 00:04:47:14
I was like a fucking weird. And then my message was like, what? The sales have gone a bit. I can see some cracks and stuff like that. And then the shower tray was a bit soft in in a specific area. So does that right. Get a plumber in. See was what he came round yesterday. And when he came round I was like he was supposed to be camera.

00:04:47:14 – 00:05:09:02
He said one off one. That's all right. Waiting for three clock. No sign of him. So I messaged him to say are you are you actually coming around? And he was like, yeah. So I just running night morning job of shit like. And he said, just fucking Texas. And I didn't have my lunch because I didn't want my house to smell of food full.

00:05:09:02 – 00:05:22:24
The trade guides coming. I couldn't give a shit. I said for me, I wouldn't use him. That would be me. I, I know you, I know you. It's hard to find plumbers, Bobby. Like, yeah, fuck this guy. I'm not going to eat him. Really? That's what I would do. But it's probably you just want the thing sorted, right?

00:05:22:24 – 00:05:43:15
So you better. Yeah. Cut up. Go. And then, And then he came in, took the panel off, looked underneath, and he was, Yeah. See the problem right away? It's going to need to totally regain. And I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, everything needs to come out. Need to start again. Except that the plaster boards wet is rotten.

00:05:43:15 – 00:06:06:04
It's moldy. There's a crack underneath your shower tray. You can fit it here. Everything's fucked. Need to redo it again. And I was like, right, okay. Rust wasn't expecting that. I was expecting you to come and do the little squirt gun with the seal. Just reset it and stick some wooden things underneath the shower. Try to make it not bouncy.

00:06:06:05 – 00:06:24:19
Yeah, and he was sorry to tell you that before Christmas. That's not what I mean. You could tell me any time of that. It would still be horrible news. And then, so, so. Okay. Great. So two, three years ago, I paid like 3 or 4 grand to get that done. Now I got to fucking pay to get it done again.

00:06:24:19 – 00:06:46:23
But I think I'm going to get a second opinion. I need a second opinion. Yeah. Because yeah. Yeah. The I feel like the shower tray obviously is an issue. It needs replacing. Take that out, put a new shower tray in, put some more kind of support underneath because it wasn't as much support underneath it to stop it from bowing and stuff like that.

00:06:47:03 – 00:07:05:07
So you when you step on it, you can feel it. Yeah. It would not be the support it got sort of wet and sort of rotten. There was no support directly underneath it. So you just sitting on the track meet you and you know my brother is a plumber, right? You know, you can as it should. I said that because I know what you're like.

00:07:05:09 – 00:07:21:19
You're going to bond bought him about a hundred questions. He's going to get fed up and brought in. I'm, he lives too far away. No, but you can take videos. And he said, this is what he said. Send them to me. I will send them to Ryan. Right. Ryan will give his opinion, I will tell you.

00:07:21:19 – 00:07:44:20
And that will be the end of the matter. No follow up questions. Right. Okay. Yeah. That's fine if he's correct, if you can get enough, if, you know, follow up questions. Really not maybe one maybe. All right. But no, but at least you know whether or not you've been told the truth, right? So if you, if you can get a light, your camera and your light in there and underneath the shower, he'll be able to tell you, right?

00:07:44:20 – 00:08:17:03
Yeah. That doesn't need to be. He's saying the right thing. Or he might say, you know, you can do this. You can do a fix. I kind of get the in right that when tradespeople come in, even if it's a tradesperson or my car. And the issue is that it's in these kind of it needs work like investigation on it or something, or it's an awkward job, but people don't want to do awkward jobs for, you know, a money.

00:08:17:03 – 00:08:32:12
No, no, no. And I and I get that. I can get that. I had to say wait to do that thing for hours. That really doesn't like labor intensive. That isn't that's really labor intensive, but it's not actually going to pay a lot of money. Pain in the ass not to do that. Yeah. No. Fuck. I want to do that.

00:08:32:18 – 00:08:50:23
I get that right. But then just saying. Yeah, Unsweet needs replacing. That's a bit far fetched, I know for you to do the work, you need the money to be able to, you know. Yeah. I don't know whether people come in and just say, definitely needs to be got. It's definitely a part of it. Yeah. That's for me.

00:08:51:01 – 00:09:02:06
Like even like they don't want to do the work. It might be a day's work and it might be a right pain in the ass. You just say, I don't want to do that. So I'm just going to say this. And if they want to do it, I don't know. If you're not, it's not my problem. I'll go to next job.

00:09:02:08 – 00:09:26:14
But then you know that if you do video it and send it to Ryan, he'll give you one way or another, right? Okay. But I had the same thing with my door. The back door where this, It was like a double glazing French doors go out to the garden, and the handle broke, and I called a bloke to fix it, and he went, he can't you just do it?

00:09:26:14 – 00:09:42:13
And I'm like, if I could do it, I wouldn't be calling you a 100 pound job. Weren't interested. No one was interested. So I was like, I've just got this door. It's been broken for years. I don't know how many shots are locks, but it's like the handle needs to be fixed. And I'm like, I don't I don't know how to do this.

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I need your help. Yeah, I need your help. Yeah. So, like the icon just said, send the video so I know what that'll be your answer. Then you'll know if you do need to rip it all out. Or it can be fixed. Generally, though, the water's getting through. Yeah, I'm spitting all in it. Yeah, I'm on plasterboard as well.

00:10:02:02 – 00:10:25:16
Yeah. We've just got plaster on ours and it'll be tiled, so hopefully that won't won't happen. But yeah. Pain in the ass. Yeah I mean houses are shit. Cars are shit. Yeah. But Merry fucking Christmas everyone, right. Merry fucking Christmas because it's the Christian go. This is the Christmas episode. No it's not. That's next. Like God.

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What a start.

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The night I see, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi. Is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:11:01:17 – 00:11:26:08
Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous. It's episode 127. I'm Ricky Heath. I have two best mates, one main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something only you know. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. I was gonna say, how's it going, Flav? But, I know the answer to that. We'll just, I'll just get straight into the, actually a bit.

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Housekeeping. First of all, thank you very much to everybody's kind words for the pot last week. You know, specifically your mum coming on and, honest take on grief. A lot of people said some really nice things, really helped them out. People who are going through grief at the moment, people that have gone through it, a lot of emotions shared on it.

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I got a lot of whatsapps from people as well that I've listened, and they said that they weren't expecting that and, you know, hit them as they were listening to choke them up with my mum. So yeah, but you're better and mum's better as well. My mum, as lovely as she is, does have an ego and she would absolutely love to see some of those messages.

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Ricky. Right. I'll, I think I like she got a number and I don't know what you did. Now I'll send you the messages I sent them. Yes. You love that. Yeah, yeah, I will de I will de bless her. Yes, I will. I'll send those across something not to, you know, the totally anonymous form. If you go on our social profile click on the link.

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You see our link tree. You'll see the first one there with the anonymous form. We've had ten anonymized form. There's no email needed. We can't see your location. We can't see anything. So if you want to get something of which there is no trace back to you. So we've had ten in already. Thank you very much to those as well.

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Some of them are absolute fucking remote. Have you found there's been more honesty now that they are completely anonymous? Yes. Yeah, yeah yeah. Some of them are a bit too honest. Joke's on you. They're not really anonymous. Nothing's that we know everything. I'm joking. Well, someone else did as well. Wrote and said, can you do the video upload?

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Yeah, all good things and enough. And we only post those AI images on Patreon, so sign up for free. Have a little look. Follow us. Do whatever you want. Right. Let's get into today's topic. So the topic for today is Natural Disasters and Surviving them. Yeah. Have you ever been in a natural disaster or something that's close.

00:15:51:09 – 00:16:13:15
Close to it. No. But some some of what I was always is a kid. So grateful for the fact that I lived in the UK because we like it's got to be in terms of whether it's kind of balanced. I know it gets rain and you get like the seasons and stuff, but actually that's quite nice. It's like different times of the year.

00:16:13:15 – 00:16:40:11
It's different aspects. In the most extreme are weather gets is you might have a hurricane maybe once every 4 or 5 years. Yeah. Maybe you get storms, but not full blown hurricanes. No. And, the, weather is so tame that people still remember 1988 when we had an actual hurricane. And it was it. Come on top a little bit feeble.

00:16:40:13 – 00:17:04:24
She she who, few rooves were stripped off and that kind of thing. But generally this is pretty calm where we are. And so, yeah, I think the there is no group of people more fascinated by natural disasters than people live in the UK because it's foreign, like when they go, oh, there's a, there's a size site, what's it called, seven earthquake in Japan on the Richter scale and said, Salamis are incoming.

00:17:04:24 – 00:17:14:14
I'm like, what the fuck? I'm all over this. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of the best times of my life with Boxing Day tsunami 2000 and.

00:17:14:16 – 00:17:39:06
2008 or whatever it was. But it's thousands of people died. Thousands of people died with so far removed from it. It's almost like a movie for us. Yeah. I mean, like all blizzards or, our snow snowstorms. A lot of snow for three days, maximum rainfalls. And then it goes when we even have it this year, when do we even have last?

00:17:39:06 – 00:17:56:04
Have proper snow? No, I don't know. No, we. I can't remember the last. I remember it snowing. I remember it having snowed. I couldn't tell you when it was last year. We didn't get a single fucking thing. I know some people did it. Did a Saturday. Yeah. The world's warming up and Britain's warming up, I don't think. I think we've seen the last of our snowfall.

00:17:56:09 – 00:18:21:10
Proper snowfall probably. Really? Well, where is it gone? I love a bit of snow. Hi. I seem to remember. I don't know if I'm misremembering, but when I was a kid, my six week summer holiday burning hot every day. Yeah, walking around with my mates in just shorts. You're right. Yeah. This. And then when come wintertime snow everywhere it was there was, there was snow about you.

00:18:21:10 – 00:18:54:01
Definitely. One major snowfall a year. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Nowadays it's like. Yeah, but we're kind of like mid December and it's still fairly mild outside. But it was 14 degrees the other day. I didn't even like the economic. It was weird. Like there's no doubt that there was the I don't yeah. Compared to when we were young, there is definitely an impact on global warming or a change in the landscape in terms of, you know, how mild it is in the winter.

00:18:54:03 – 00:19:13:18
Shouldn't be that. No. All right. So you've not been, I don't think it would have been that hurricane in 1988, which is that would be the the closest natural disaster thing. I don't know how many people died. That would be it. That'd be the only one that you could consider generally. What about, some of the floods you get around you away?

00:19:13:18 – 00:19:38:21
Oh, I love that we're flooding. God. So good. It's quite like a man thing that we're. We love a flood, I don't know. Well, I don't see a women walking around talking about. Oh, I'll send you pictures of floods. It may, I'd say not actually in the, in the discord chat, the last three days, because it's been, like, really raining.

00:19:38:23 – 00:20:04:05
My usual walking routes have been flooded, and I'm just sending videos of flooded rivers and flooded canals in the discord. Great. Yeah. That's, I jumped over. I jumped over one the other day as well. Yeah. But yeah, I see. Yeah, that was embarrassing. I recorded that as well. We live in Vermont, but that, we live in, a place called Marston, which is essentially marshland.

00:20:04:07 – 00:20:28:24
And so it floods all the time. And one of the things I'm most excited about is when they start trenching the roads, because it means that it won't flood this year. They can never fix it permanently. Yeah, but they, that they can temporarily make it better if you if you call it that way. Driving through a flood is I'm going to destroy my car and I it's a kind of adrenaline rush that I can't really find anywhere else.

00:20:29:01 – 00:20:51:09
That would fucking scare me. Wet. You know where that place was? Where? They it's like they live stream most of the time. Yeah, it's where it floods. So there's a lot. It's just been something, been Gregor's or something like that. And essentially there's a dip in a road. A Ford, essentially. Yeah. Fraught. Ford, I can't remember.

00:20:51:09 – 00:21:17:23
It's called. It's like a dip where water gathers. Yeah. No, it's a Ford. But, and obviously most of the time this road is possible. But when they've had the heavy rainfall, it isn't. Or it is if you do, if you approach it correctly. So the correct way to drive through a Ford is slowly, slowly, so that you don't create a bow wave that can get into your engine.

00:21:17:23 – 00:21:36:11
Because if a water floods, the engine is fucked. Yeah, as I understand that you need to replace the engine entirety 6000 7,000 pounds. Fuck you, as I understand it. And then you've got these like, know this, like these people that I've never had a discussion about driving for water ever. Well, I grew up in London, but it's not even an issue.

00:21:36:11 – 00:21:54:13
And I know that you don't want your water grinding your engine and these people and brand new mercs just flying through it like they're fucking, you know, if you're driving around in one of these cars, flashy cars anyway, you think you're probably a bit of a knob. But yeah, they're driving through it like that. Like the laws of water don't apply to them.

00:21:54:15 – 00:22:19:16
And they go through water, floods the engine. A car becomes a brick cannot move. Yeah. And then like, And then there's this just lad Ben Greg is aware of his video and everything about it on TikTok. I always watch the videos. Yeah, I love it because there's nobody a crowd and they're like, And then then you see the car smoking and start spluttering, and then it just stops in this fluid and it's just, it's fucking so good.

00:22:19:18 – 00:22:40:22
And the thing is, well, people think that the faster they drive, the quicker they'll get for it. And that's that's how how it's done. Oh, no. You create the waves and then the water goes back up the exhaust into the engine and you're fucked. So don't don't drive really fast through them. They go just slow, slow and steady.

00:22:40:24 – 00:23:07:15
I've also got into videos recently and yeah, it's funny how that, that the algo just says you up stuff, but there's some dude, he's not paid by the council, he's not paid by anyone. But he goes up to drains and he's got these big pipes like, sticks him in to the drains, lifts him up. I didn't even know that in the in the drains, there's, like a little bucket and it collects all the mud and leaves and debris and shit built in.

00:23:07:17 – 00:23:24:11
Yeah. And then he sees it, and then, and then the car parks just all the water goes away into these drains, and they're just like. So the the bucket, the bucket collects all of the debris. And then when it's full that no more water can get through, and then the empty the bucket and the water goes. That's right.

00:23:24:13 – 00:23:48:06
I didn't know that either. Yeah, I love watching those. Well, anyway, the the the nearest, the nearest kind of, natural disaster that I've been. And I, I've told this story before, but it must. When was it? So I would, I would have been around 16 to 18. There was, an earthquake and it was, fell in Milton Keynes.

00:23:48:06 – 00:24:14:23
I remember that when you say, you know what it feels like. So I was reading a book at the time. I was lying in my bed, and I was kind of hunched over, nearly dropping off to sleep. And, you know, when you the kind of book keeps just falling over and keeps hitting you in the face. And I carried on reading it and then, I felt like a shake and I kind of, like, slid down my bed almost.

00:24:15:00 – 00:24:39:02
And I was like, I've, like, just fallen asleep. And I've just not realize that I've fallen asleep and I've moved and what? But then when I kind of got my bearings, I looked at my light bulb and I looked at my computer monitor and they were both swaying, and I was like, what the fuck has happened? Went into my mum's room that she says she's having sex, that sort of thing.

00:24:39:02 – 00:25:08:00
It was not bang, bang, bang. She's actually single at the time. At that point, just myself, off putting myself. Legs on the wall, just kicking and kicking my little. And then, I said to her, like what had happened, and the light bulb was swinging into my commitment. I was swinging, and we lived near a, we lived near a, like, a massive train shed.

00:25:08:02 – 00:25:28:01
So, you know, the company Electrolux, like all the washing machines, dishwashers and all that, like, I think trains would come in and deposit these in these massive factories. But you also got a lot of lorries that would drive down our narrow road. And my mum was like, it's probably one of the articulated lorries that I've driven past and the vibration of it is shaking the house.

00:25:28:01 – 00:25:51:08
And I was like, number one, that's never happened before. And number two, at like 12:00 at night, that that didn't happen. And I went back to bed, I slept with the lights on and I was convinced it was a poltergeist. I mean, there is no other explanation other than you've got a pile in your room, and as soon as you shut your eyes, fucking game, I pick you up, throw you out window.

00:25:51:10 – 00:26:12:17
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. There. I went to work the next day, and as I went to work, everyone was crowded in the foyer, chatting, chit chat, and I was like, what fucking go on in there? Like what? Why is everyone getting excited? Another thing is approaching. They went right. Did you feed it? I was at what I meant. There was an earthquake last night.

00:26:12:19 – 00:26:34:13
Then the penny dropped and I was like, okay, okay, right now I know there's no power ghost in my mind. So yeah, it's the main thing that is a a back and back then like that. Eight I was really fucking freaked out by them, but I think that's the closest I've ever been to any kind of earthquake.

00:26:34:14 – 00:26:51:07
But it feels like a natural disaster. Is it? Well, earthquake. Yeah. No, that is in certain parts of the world. But there was no disaster in Milton Keynes. Was just that rumbling. No, it just it was just a rumble. So same as that with nothing to worry about, with nothing I like. But. Well, I was relatively close to Turkey.

00:26:51:07 – 00:27:13:03
Turkey of earthquakes. Devastating months. Yeah, yeah. So you know, four hours on a plane and you, you can you can get yourself involved if you want. But we just happen to live in a place. It's just pretty fucking insane. Think. Yeah. Average vanilla would you I mean, would you want to live in a place where there are no.

00:27:13:05 – 00:27:36:14
In America, they get quite a lot of stuff like that. What's your favorite mate? I was literally that was my next question. What's your favorite? What's your favorite? I think I mean, it's I've always been I was going to tell the story like last week, but when I was younger, I was fascinated by storm chasing. I think I used to watch just like loads of YouTube videos.

00:27:36:16 – 00:28:02:03
And I mean, it was the actual film twister, but maybe it was. I can't remember now, but where people there was just something exhilarating on one of those handheld cams and filming in a car and chasing this, this kind of tornado, and then it and then they'd make a wrong turn and the tornado starts chasing them. They reverse and fucking God knows what speed is absolutely brilliant.

00:28:02:08 – 00:28:21:13
Yeah, but yeah, obviously I didn't I didn't follow through with that profession. I wish I had that stay. But as the years go by, is it like a profession? Profession? I think there's a hobby. Is it? I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think like I'm sure some people will work for a weather institute.

00:28:21:15 – 00:28:41:02
Yeah. But I think the idea of these, the ones that documentaries I've, I've watched about storm chasers like on Discovery Plus. So yeah, they've always been like just weirdos that do it and they upload their information rather than, this is like a NASA led project, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. So what storm's your favorite?

00:28:41:02 – 00:29:06:09
I've. Everything's school. That that was back. That was back then. Oh. What's it now? I mean, after the Army, a scene, all those videos. It's an army. It's 100,000. A sad army and a new one, like, So since army is the main mill, right? It's an army. Is the steak and chips and the little side salads or little bread.

00:29:06:09 – 00:29:36:02
Roll whatever you want. Sink, house. Oh. Oh, God. Where is that come from? I like that. I tell you what, we've had sinkholes in in the UK and one more certain there have been well we know, we know, we know. Yeah, yeah, yeah a major incident February 2025. Maybe an incident declared as, over a sinkhole swallowing up UK street.

00:29:36:04 – 00:29:57:12
Yeah, it's it north east region, particularly around the Ripon areas, underlined by similar geology. So it's like the, the make up of the ground. It's not good for what we did on it basically. Right. Fuck. Yeah. They'll have a dirty little sinkhole mate here. And that one that happened the other day. Where was that in Thailand.

00:29:57:12 – 00:30:15:18
Is it Thailand? Yeah, I thought it was. I that's why I, it's done is you look at stuff. Yeah. It's a real. And we have to do that because if we believe if we see we're in trouble, one probably will end up doing that. Like my, my dad's into my music now anyway, if you have this and I mean it's not real and he's.

00:30:15:19 – 00:30:41:08
Yeah, I don't care. It's great though. It's like it's not I don't know he that to me is scary. Like when he's sending me, when he's sending me an album by a woman that doesn't exist, that no. Nothing has gone into that. That requires playing an instrument or creating music in the traditional sense. And people believe it has.

00:30:41:10 – 00:31:02:19
What do you do if you're a musician when you're so quickly become redundant? Because when people stop caring about live music or stop caring about how a piece of music is made, that's it, right? Anyway, a different subject, but I, I don't do, you know, I hadn't even thought about that. I was, I was about to say. But isn't the end game that your dad's just happy listening to music?

00:31:02:19 – 00:31:26:08
Yeah, that's what I said. The consumer eventually. Yeah, but I didn't realize I didn't really think about the. The consumer is the one that the, the the process goes where the consumer demands. Right. So if enough people don't give a shit that something is AI generated, then why not do it? Why bother hiring? If you're a singer, why bother hiring a session guitarist or a drummer?

00:31:26:08 – 00:31:52:09
Or why bother? Start a band when you can just put prompts and prompts into something like why? What's the problem? And it may be that that is that everything changes and shifts and so what? Right. The music industry cares if it does. Ask what you might think or you might think, that note something sacred and spiritual that we've genuinely created and we need to protect it.

00:31:52:11 – 00:32:16:21
You know, you can't at what point does this end, when in terms of, like, a disaster, I think this is a disaster where people and it goes to raves. If I generate music with no deejay, nothing to look at, just enter and listen to someone press a button like that to me, isn't a good thing. I want to go watch someone who could be flawed play an instrument perfectly.

00:32:16:21 – 00:32:39:05
That's what I want to watch. Like when I when I was at the radio, I went to that. I was watching people like Masters are. Yeah, but you could easily use their AI to generate a song that sounds like Radiohead made it. That is fucking scary. That is fucking scary. I hadn't even thought of scarier Than a tsunami from afar.

00:32:39:07 – 00:33:02:02
I'm more scared about that than I am tsunamis. Anyway, well, so sinkholes. The way what we saw in Thailand, I thought it was like, oh yeah, that's how extreme it was. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was like that in that video, there's a guy that is just standing there and he's like trying to get a closer look, and they're like, everyone's saying, mate, don't go anywhere crazy.

00:33:02:02 – 00:33:20:18
And it's, I want to have a look. Let me look down the sinkhole. But this is let me look. Jim, leave me alone. This is a once in a lifetime thing. Yeah. There was one bit of a car that was down there, and they they would. They had like that. What you call it rappelled down to get them out of the car.

00:33:20:18 – 00:33:39:11
Was that bit real? So I thought that was I. Yeah. See, I don't know. Do you know what I'm talking about? The bit where they get up there, you know, and then suddenly the car just disappears into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I feel like that's I, I wonder if that is, I think the, the, Army.

00:33:39:13 – 00:34:15:13
Do you know what. Right when I was having a look at this, this sand army, I always thought it was, Japan. That's where the main hit of it was. But apparently, Boxing Day 2004, 8:00 in the morning, a 9.2 to 9.3 earthquake struck the epicenter of the West Coast of, northern Sumatra, Indonesia says like a more hit by Indonesia, Thailand, couple of other bodies around there.

00:34:15:19 – 00:34:47:04
But I always thought was Japan because there is this video in Japan of the tsunami hitting right. Yeah. And there is. So you've got the sea. You've got kind of like this protecting part where if the sea comes over, it and it does some kind of, I don't know, balancing of the waves crashing over. And someone has this video from a high point and you can see how the waves are getting more and more choppy.

00:34:47:06 – 00:35:16:06
And then the water starts spilling over the sides and you can see people biking in the streets and walking their dogs and going for a run and doing whatever. And they are oblivious to what is about to happen. And then the water starts spilling over the sides, starts coming into the street, and then you can see the water drawing from the sea, and boats are starting to fall over the side of this thing, and then they get stuck on the bridges and the water gets higher and higher.

00:35:16:06 – 00:35:40:02
And these boats are just being crushed. And the whole streets and cars are being swept away, and it's moving through the streets and you can see it. And I was like, that is fucking insane. Yeah. How was it the one looking down at the buildings like from earlier legend and the bloke filming it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's quite a famous one isn't it.

00:35:40:09 – 00:36:03:13
Yeah it is. Yeah. And. Yeah. And how quickly the water came in, it is like. And there's, there's others as well. I've seen this one of someone on the beach in Thailand and they're all there. They're on their sun loungers. It's Boxing Day, they're having a nice time, you know, just getting over their Christmas dinner or whatever, chilling out.

00:36:03:15 – 00:36:29:17
And someone mentions that. Can you see that? The sea is receding quite a lot. Yeah. There's, there's a picture of, and it just goes back like a woman looking it. Yeah. Going out and like. Yeah, they see 100 and died. That woman. Yeah. Oh my. Oh those people. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Fucking gone. And then it just slowly starts coming back up the beach.

00:36:29:19 – 00:36:56:14
And then it's kind of like it starts knocking deckchairs away and stuff like that. And then you're like, right, okay. But people still, they, they don't know how bad it is. They think, oh fuck this. Just like that's a big wave or wherever. And then they are in trouble. They're in a lot of fucking trouble, if that like that, going to that side of the world, would that scare it?

00:36:56:14 – 00:37:16:24
Would that be in the plane, in the back of Yemen? No. No, not not like a natural disaster. No. I mean much more afraid of the plane blowing up before getting there than the worry about getting caught up in that disaster. But if you get caught up in that there, it's like one of them things if you don't make it out in time, if you haven't evacuated and you know they had no warning system then in the Indian Ocean.

00:37:16:24 – 00:37:41:01
So yeah, what the reason one of the Salamis in Japan and elsewhere is because it was, it was it was all about the same salami. Yeah, sure. Yeah. The 2001. Yeah. 2004. And, the one that sort of the reactors in, in the Fukushima, the reactors over was Fukushima. Yeah. Yeah. I, I've, the too much warped and overheated.

00:37:41:05 – 00:38:11:09
Yeah. Along those lines. And then there was, Japanese scientists that stayed behind to shut it down there too. I don't I can't remember if these were separate it because that happened in 2004. One happened in the Indian Ocean. Right. And is Japan attached to the Indian Ocean? My geography is terrible. Yeah, yeah it is. I'm sure it was because, loads of countries got it.

00:38:11:11 – 00:38:36:17
Yeah. But Japan seem to get it the worst. But I think it was the Indonesia got it as well didn't they. Yeah. So I don't think. Yeah. I have a second set of hands where it was. Where did it go off. Do you know, it says northern Sumatra, Indonesia. I, I'm just, I'm just zooming in on the map there.

00:38:36:19 – 00:39:02:02
All right. So technically it could be. But anyway, look, if you were on the beach in Japan or even in the Philippines or wherever, you would have been, once that was in is there's so little you can do to save yourself. Yeah. Right. And the one thing that never occurred to me, I just for, in my infancy, I actually forgot a key on me would be like, it's just a big wave.

00:39:02:02 – 00:39:25:08
I'll ride it out. I'll grab onto something, grab the lilo right away. Yeah, it's just the way land. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then what I didn't occurred to me is how much debris would be in the wave. Like there'd be shards of glass, there'd be chunks of wood. There would be. And there's no in terms of, like, dramatization.

00:39:25:08 – 00:39:45:14
If you've seen the film The Impossible. No, I've not made it. Do you like natural disasters at all? We just. Are you just doing this? I'm not film I don't like. I just don't like films. You know, they. I don't watch films. I mean, this is about a natural disaster, about tsunamis on Boxing Day. That's what this is what it's about, right?

00:39:45:14 – 00:40:06:11
Loads of people dying, getting swept up. And you see it all in HD, right? That not tickles your fancy. It's. Oh, and it's about a family again. Split apart, and they lose each other. That's the other thing in the tsunami is you get displaced that that's the that's the thing. Right? That's the thing that worries me like going to these countries and a tsunami hit in.

00:40:06:11 – 00:40:29:08
And I've got my family there and I've got, try and not only save myself but save them. How am I going to do that? It's fucking madness. Well, no. Exactly. This is what the film's about. You wouldn't be able to save them. They would hope that they survived. What's the film? Genuinely. You like it? I mean, it's I don't I was I've never.

00:40:29:14 – 00:40:55:22
I cried so much in film gods, brilliance. Proper shadow. Sorry. Words. Yeah. I can't wait to watch that. I'm crushing it at the, It's one of the deadliest disasters in human history. Can you ever guess how many people died in that estimate? It's how many people died. I don't I what is the one the most deadly, did you say?

00:40:55:24 – 00:41:05:19
Yeah, I would say no. Nuclear war nine. I'd say 9000.

00:41:05:21 – 00:41:45:19
230,000 deaths. Fuck me. Really? Yeah. 230,000. That's Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Thailand, India, Japan. That is fucking mad, boy. That is a fucking like. Yeah, that's so much more than I thought. No. In it. Yeah. I feel a bit proud of making light of it now. Well I mean of that people. Oh yeah, that is. But I mean, this is what, this is what, natural disasters do.

00:41:45:21 – 00:42:18:11
You know what? The Japan had a big sin army in 2011 as well. Right. Yeah. Is that the. That's the Fukushima one, right? Yeah, I think so. Not that 19,000 deaths fucking now. Oh, wait. Still. Yeah, it is Fukushima. Yeah. 2011. That's why we get mixed up. They they had literally, on the 8th December, I think it was Japan had a tsunami warning, earthquakes and army warning.

00:42:18:13 – 00:42:40:03
Mate, Japan just it's the number one place, I think that I that most want to visit at this moment in my life, but tsunamis, earthquakes, I don't I fucking. Mad. It's fucking on top there in here. It's not, it's not like it's anywhere in it, you know, not going not going to go because there might be a tsunami.

00:42:40:03 – 00:43:06:03
That'd be weird. But it. Yeah, but I mean, that's going to be the time when I go in there because I was there waiting for me. There'll be alarms now. You can, you can get out. So. So yeah, they do, the two telltale signs of a tsunami, obviously the the siren warning and the water pulling back. It's a it's another short but no, if you out and see, you know, you feel the tsunami wave as well, which always freaked me out.

00:43:06:03 – 00:43:26:23
I was like, do the fish feel it? With the sharks feel it when they're out there. Have you say there's a there's another there is a video of a, a Japanese fishing boat on, they get radioed through that the tsunami is coming, and there's three enormous waves heading their way, and they hit these waves, and it's quite big, but they they ride it out.

00:43:27:03 – 00:43:52:24
Well, they don't run out and like, what they they weren't sort of capping, were they? They were just huge I mean that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where's that. And I don't know tick tock maybe. All right. Well Rose I love a little So now actually I want to say right now. Right. Good. Is that if you do, come across a tsunami, they advise to survive.

00:43:52:24 – 00:44:15:23
It is to run up hill or to a high building immediately. Don't wait, don't film. Get to a high rise. And you know, that's that is solid advice just on that. I, I when I was looking for, right when you just said that just because I wanted to see it. Yeah. I've opened up WhatsApp. Not WhatsApp.

00:44:16:00 – 00:44:36:19
So, it said flood water. There's two lads in a rubber dinghy just going down some flood. Flood water. I, I would always see that on the news. And I always like that to be me. They're not going down streets. They're going down an actual flooded river. Look. Oh fuck. Oh yeah. It's going to end up in complete disaster.

00:44:36:21 – 00:45:06:14
Yeah, that's a rubber dinghy. Like one little branch that goes for it. They got lifejackets on because they don't. That's just that's mucking about. The another one is one that I wanted to, chat to you about the, volcano eruptions. Yeah. Now that, that's quite frank. Fresh memory. That was April 2010. Did you? You didn't get caught up in that, did you?

00:45:06:16 – 00:45:24:07
Oh, the Icelandic. Yeah. Yeah. The, No, no, I was I didn't like that because all the flights were grounded. Running. Yeah. Nothing like that. I mean, that's the best. If you're on holiday and you get grounded because of ash loads. You got a bit of money, you blow us. This is great. We'll stay for another seven days.

00:45:24:09 – 00:45:56:14
There's nothing I can do about it. Oh, work on saving. All right. That would be. Call it like volcanoes. They are another thing that fascinate me. You know, like seeing lava, like live volcanoes and lava pouring out of it. Have you seen those ones where it's just where it's like slow lava and people can get close to it, and they put objects in front of it, and then the lava just kind of devours it and just carries on running, like, what are you doing fucking now?

00:45:56:14 – 00:46:18:21
Yeah, get away from that. Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I watched the film once about a, it's based on the true events of these tour guides that would take people to this active volcano. Was they active? It was just smoke would be coming out of it, but it wouldn't be spewing like lava out it. And that's a different volcano.

00:46:18:22 – 00:46:42:02
Then every now and then, it blows up. They got unexpectedly exploded and they got stuck on the, on the, on this island. And they had to try and get in boats to get off and, just molten ash was just raining down on them and burning them and stuff. And I was like, fuck them. I'm never going to get near a volcano, mate.

00:46:42:02 – 00:47:07:12
That's fucking. Yeah, that is rough, man. Yeah. Look like it. Someone sent in Archer. Actually, that's just remind me someone sent this, email in for today's, topic. And this is a, this is on earthquakes, actually, but it's similar. Hi, guys. Earthquakes are common in Iceland, and they can really catch you off guard when you notice them.

00:47:07:14 – 00:47:40:14
In the spring 2008, I was driving outside of Reykjavik on my way to work on my family's summer cabin when I suddenly felt a jolt hit the car. It was as if the whole vehicle started moving in waves. All this, all the traffic around me, both in front and behind, dropped from about 60 miles an hour, down to ten miles an hour in the same second, a few drivers pulled over, got out and kicked their ties to check if they'd blown out, which they hadn't.

00:47:40:16 – 00:48:01:23
People looked at each other, not saying a word at first, and then almost simultaneously, everyone said that was an earthquake. At that moment, we all turned to look at the mountain right next to the road, and it was covered in a huge cloud of dust. Luckily, only a small part of it had collapsed and nothing reached the road.

00:48:02:00 – 00:48:26:14
The epicenter of the quake was just 1000m away from the mountain, meaning I was almost directly above it, and it turned out to be a 6.3 on the Richter scale. Wow. It was deeply unsettling. It was a deeply unsettling experience, but thankfully, earthquakes that big are rare in Iceland. In recent years, volcanic eruptions have captured most of our attentions here in the capital area.

00:48:26:14 – 00:49:01:09
Since 2021 eruptions in the Rick Yanes peninsula. I think that these have been happening regularly. I haven't gotten close to any of them myself, but I can see the glow from my living room window at home. Well, I'm just looking at what are you talking there? Like, these are genuinely volcanoes erupting in lava, pouring down into the onto the land like, can you imagine just being in your front room looking out the window, though?

00:49:01:11 – 00:49:48:16
That was it. The glass still closed. It's still going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still going, still going. Never mind fucking mental. The, I was going to say, I just want you to write these ones, these, these lessons before we move on. So volcanic eruptions down, tsunamis, landslides. I like obviously, I used to work in the railway and landslides is a big topic, very big topic because when there's a lot of flooding, bad weather, when, when the weather is frozen that much frozen and then it's slow and then it falls really quickly, it can, move the mud, and then that can create a landslide.

00:49:48:18 – 00:50:07:18
Yeah. And it obviously when it when it goes on the tracks, no one knows a train comes along, smashes into it. But what are you talking about? When you used to work for Network Rail. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So they would have different, technology that would then whether it be able to identify where the land is moved in the UK all the time.

00:50:07:18 – 00:50:28:07
Landslips. Really. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. And that's when I brain as that's when a line will get closed. Yeah. Because it's dangerous for the trains one quite recently maybe even the last 2 or 3 months. You see the image on line a train. No. No one had known that there was a landslip and a train full pelt.

00:50:28:07 – 00:50:48:17
Fucking went into it. Smash the fuck out the train. Luckily, no one died. It derailed the train, but everyone was safe on board because in my head, when a train derailed, like the carriages will go up like in the air, but like, probably designed to not do that. Well, right. So it's just hit the mud and just skipped on the track.

00:50:48:17 – 00:51:06:01
It just a will wasn't on the track that that was based basically. Yeah. So I was on the train the other day and trying to get back for the Spurs Newcastle game and it got, I couldn't get back basically. And I was there and they went, there's an issue with the track up ahead, which is waiting for Network Rail to get back to us and confirm that we can go forward.

00:51:06:03 – 00:51:27:16
And I was sitting and you fast, you motherfuckers, all the time with these wankers can't get nothing right. But actually, like, they probably got on a warning of some sort that set off that shit. That everything was safe so that we didn't were obliterated in the because of the landslip or something. Yeah, exactly. I mean that so that happens quite often.

00:51:27:22 – 00:51:56:03
And along with landslips, I, I you know what I, I've, I've come quite fond of as long as that, you know, with the house is, coastal erosions, you know, videos of the waves lapping at some cliffs somewhere. There's a house on there. Yeah. Slowly it slides into this a well, what happens are the insurance cover because they know that you there, do you just lose your home?

00:51:56:03 – 00:52:16:01
And that's it? I don't know, because there is some kind of. I remember because I always wanted to live near a river. So I've looked at this. And your home insurance is through the roof, because if the river burst its banks, your house is fucked. That's, you know, they know that's going to happen if you live in a floodplain.

00:52:16:03 – 00:52:39:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, when you, when you get, you get a land survey done when you buy, buying a house is what we did recently. And it tells you everything that's likely to happen in, in that whether it be, you know, there were extensive flooding, local rivers that might break. You know what? How if you live in a valley, what you can expect and.

00:52:39:21 – 00:53:04:18
Right, all of that stuff has to be given to the or the is accessible by the insurance company. So any any bad things. It all sounds terrifying, but when you speak to someone like surveyor, they said that's pretty normal. But it was like rock formations that possibly could move and shit like that. That oh fuck. Look, I don't want any snowball.

00:53:04:20 – 00:53:23:19
How do you feel about avalanches? Oh, I used to like an avalanche as a kid. Yeah, I'd like a I like watching them. Wouldn't want to get caught up in one. The idea of, being completely consumed on the snow and not being on some move is terrifying as a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like when they say you like when the snow moves and it's on top of you and it's it can only be a few feet.

00:53:23:19 – 00:53:44:23
It's like concrete. Like it means I hate that. I hate the sound of that freezing cold snow. So a video of this guy in this snowboarding, and he's just going past, and he just noticed two legs poking out of the snow, and then he. Yeah. And then he. And then he dug it out and he was a line and he just like you go in and when you watch a video, you don't see it.

00:53:44:23 – 00:54:17:01
He sees it and you're like, what if you like, I would just dead. Like when they go up mount Everest. Yeah. You die up there. You're left. You're not recovered. You go up there, you go up there at your own risk. If you're dead, just dead. That's it. The the mountain takes you that the mental Joe Rogan recently posted I don't know how sorry to come on my Instagram, but he posted on his IG and it was a map of all the dead people that have been lost.

00:54:17:03 – 00:54:41:21
Everest. There is fucking loads man. So many dead ends. And they just they just left them like they're obviously like you saying just left there, but they're, it's almost like they've been mummified by the ice and snow. They're like perfect. Like a little time capsule. Oh. Fucking dead. You just lying there. You. You've walked past. They walked past dead bodies all the time.

00:54:41:23 – 00:55:07:10
Just left it. Apparently there's a there's a reference point called a green base. And it's someone that's dead in green boots. That's the that's the path. And it's actually a reference point of a dead person. Green boots, I don't know but it's thank I right I get why people one of the extreme things I don't get why they want to do that when I notice the tallest point on on Earth and all that stuff.

00:55:07:10 – 00:55:34:11
But you're one of like thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people. You go up there and it's like a freaking it's it's densely populated with climbers. And most of these people are not. Oh, yes. In green boots. Is that just the body? Just. They're left like that. Yeah. But it's right there. But he. Put you off that put me right off my walk.

00:55:34:11 – 00:55:57:08
I'm going back not having any more of this. And because they're frozen, they don't blow no fucking out. Preserved like that. Yeah. I think that photo you're talking about, I don't actually I don't know if you saw, but I saw someone saying, not climbing Everest. Instagram. And it's there with all their gear on top of, Everest.

00:55:57:14 – 00:56:17:17
And then it's like behind the scenes and then it's just like a queue, like going into Tescos of people getting to the top of everything. You just think, oh, is it all right? I'm not saying it's easy, don't like, but I'm just saying like there's a queue of people, it's like, yeah, what? Yeah. And you're and Sherpas are doing amazing work for you and stuff.

00:56:17:18 – 00:56:39:10
Yeah. One of my biggest fears would be falling down a crevasse. Right. Okay. You know what I'm talking about. Like an ice. Is it crevasse? Yeah, yeah. So you got the snow on top, and then it's just like the kind of, like, kind of almost like a cave, but. Yeah, but it's just ice just falling down that,

00:56:39:12 – 00:56:55:13
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What? Never been to a break in a couple of legs on the way. And then just been left down there to watch starve to death with broken legs? Yeah. You think? Well, what have I got on you? You're patting yourself, and you've got a little ax hammer like that. So hammer my head for my head.

00:56:55:15 – 00:57:21:21
Yeah. So smashing my own head in. It's, good, man. Sinkhole was done there. I don't really know the difference between hurricanes, cyclones, typhoons, typhoons and tornadoes. It's all wind stuff, isn't it? All wind and all of them up into a tornado? Yeah, the tornado is like a slight. Like a cyclone. Like. No, it's like a you know what tornado is.

00:57:21:23 – 00:57:50:20
Yeah, I know what a tornado is. Yeah, but hurricanes always. But then I circular Huntly but yeah. Hurricane. It's it's a hurricane not circular. Yeah but just massive. And what's tornado then. Smaller. It's like a spout fire okay. Yeah. Yeah I don't know man. We don't really we when you have in the occasion where we've had tornadoes in the UK, they're over water and it's like a water spout and it's not.

00:57:50:20 – 00:58:11:24
Yeah. I've seen of in any way like if you watched it like, that's incredible. That's that is, that's that's what it is. Something that's just jogged my memory. I think it's like, a tornado or a typhoon. I know tornado, one of them is horrible. One of them is, sorry. Water. Water made cyclone. And then it's.

00:58:12:01 – 00:58:38:18
Yeah. And then it touches land, and that's when it becomes whatever. But they're fucking pretty, pretty gnarly blizzards. I don't really care about blizzards. See them in Canada all the time. Floods, wildfires. Actually, God's missed that one out. The no, no, no, don't do anything for me then. The ones in LA recently. Yeah. I mean, did you I kind of fly.

00:58:38:20 – 00:58:59:10
I might look up from my phone if it comes on the screen, but not like it saw me where I put my phone down. Yeah, it's an RV is the, is it's just go. It's just just one thing, about volcanoes. I remember I remember reading about this at school in geography is that volcanic ash that settles after an explosion creates.

00:58:59:12 – 00:59:27:24
Yeah. It's almost like the best type of substrate for farming. Like the the growth around using volcanic ash. Like the reason why Pompeii was I think I'm getting this right, the reason why Pompeii, there was so much settlement in next to Mount Vesuvius. Yeah. Was that the farmland was so fertile and was they were able to easily grow crops and so.

00:59:28:03 – 00:59:54:09
Right. And the mountain hadn't erupted in such a long time that civilization formed there. And then we know what happened. You know, that's so weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, God got the wonder what happened. Yeah. I'd like to visit there, actually. Yeah. So weird, like, why would it have so much? Because it's full of minerals and minerals were coming up.

00:59:54:11 – 01:00:21:07
So it's mad the destruction there is, like, the earth is just left to its own devices. Yeah, it would just, you know, while it's destroying things through the volcanic ash and stuff, if that then creates a massive burst in life. Yeah, it's a balance in it. Whereas humans come in to fuck everything up basically. Well, through chaos comes beauty.

01:00:21:07 – 01:00:41:11
Oh, that. And I think I think we'll leave it at that actually. Yeah. So before we are going to go on to add another thing, voice notes sent in, thank you very much. And something only you know I do. You know, I didn't actually name this because I was in a rush. But it's a it's a good on the topic for next week Christmas.

01:00:41:13 – 01:01:16:24
How are you spending Christmas. Where are you? Who are you spending it with? Have you got your presents sorted? Have you got your presents or it have. No, no okay. Talk about that. What is your Christmas Day? Look like? Any weird or interesting traditions. Send them in. For this one. If you've never seen anything in Two Lads anonymous, why not do it for Christmas and share how it is that you're celebrating Christmas and send that into lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out in the Christmas episode of Lads Anonymous.

01:01:17:01 – 01:01:52:01
Now we are going to go on to another thing. And another thing and go into a grown up and another saying, yeah, I couldn't agreement that novel thing. Oh yeah. No, I didn't have a thing. Oh, oh should I like, oh I've got to play this now haven't I. Yeah. So that's cool. Cool. I've got to put my thumb up and go nicely.

01:01:52:03 – 01:02:14:00
Right, mate, you were calling for And another thing. I've got one for you. I swear, it is now against the law for people to sit in the middle lane of a fucking motorway and just drive like it. That's the law, right? So, like, why don't everyone. What doesn't all of these pricks, like, get pulled over and get a ticket for doing it?

01:02:14:00 – 01:02:39:00
Because, like, it's like whac-a-mole like you get past one and there's like another ten. If you go to any other country in Europe, the like, the traffic just flows, like people aren't doing that. But you know what pisses me off? Even more than the fucker sat in the middle lane is the pricks who, like, tear up behind them, flashing across three lanes, then come up in the front and go back again to prove a point, even when there's not a gap there.

01:02:39:00 – 01:02:55:11
So they go right behind the lorry enough to come back out again. Like you shouldn't be in the middle, like. Like they shouldn't be in the fucking middle lane, but you're a prick as well. Like, and the police should be pulling them anyway, and like, doing something about it fucks me right off. And while I'm at it on drive in, I'll tell you what else fucks me off.

01:02:55:15 – 01:03:13:16
People who fucking indicate right when they're going straight across a roundabout. What is wrong with you? Are you taught that, like, get your missis to have a word wreck? Honestly, that's my ID. And last thing fucking flag got. Stop putting up fucking flexibilities.

01:03:13:18 – 01:03:42:15
Yeah, the middle hogging the middle lane is so fucking annoying. Yeah, yeah, I am a bit of a middle lane. So you not supposed to just drive in the middle lane? No. The east. But is it supposed to just be in and out? You to get to the left? We get to the right and the middle line is just there to help you facilitate, you know, that low risk, the line you're supposed to drive in the left lane and, if you're in the middle lane, you and there is room to move over, you should move over.

01:03:42:17 – 01:04:09:13
If there's no room to move, move over. And you're going faster than the cars in the left lane. Then you drive in the middle lane, obviously. Yeah. And but if there is, if you're just idling along, certainly if you're not going at this limit at 70 and you're just you're basically intolerable. No, this but you're, you're creating a problem behind you because there are cars moving faster than you are the one to overtake, but only have one lane to do it.

01:04:09:13 – 01:04:35:03
So there's like a pinch pinching point of two lanes trying to get into one. You know you're not supposed to hog the middle lane. Rick. Don't tell me you do this. And, they are they do that. Yeah, they you know, I would run around me off the road if I was like that one thing that annoys me with driving that I do, and another people that don't wave or give a little thank you when you, when you land for.

01:04:35:03 – 01:04:53:11
Yeah, that's just manners in it. Like, even when, like even when I wave people through and it's like my right eye and I let them go and they come through and they just don't give me a nod. Even when it's my right away and I go through, I still give them a life. Yeah, that was my right away.

01:04:53:11 – 01:05:13:09
But thank you for waiting. That. Yeah. Not being a cup pain is when the the bad stuff happens. When the fucking volcano comes out of my mouth and when my kids are in the car, God, and I lose it. So like within an incident, like in your tempers, everybody's temper is just ramped up the minute they get in the cars.

01:05:13:09 – 01:05:40:14
Weird. Very strange. I never had any kind of road rage incident. I've. I've been pissed off before, but I'm jet relatively quite calm in the car. I think it's because Greg growing up with the old man, he just. We call him Angry Dad whenever he's in his valley. Just a mental. You'd go absolutely mental, right? We are going to jump into something only you know.

01:05:40:16 – 01:06:12:13
Something, you know, you. This goes back to my first ever lads holiday in Tenerife. We were 17. Our hotel had one of those safety deposit rooms near reception, where every room has a little safe box to keep your personal belongings. You are only allowed one person in there at a time. One evening when everyone was getting ready to go out, I pop down there to get some of my euros for that night.

01:06:12:15 – 01:06:40:05
There was a little stool there to to reach the higher ones. We had one little box for all of us in our room, so as I was rummaging around, I pulled out my mates little plastic wallet full of his money. You might think you can guess what's coming next, but no, I didn't take any of his money. I put it down on the stove and reached in and got mine out, got what I needed for the evening and put mine back locked up and left.

01:06:40:07 – 01:07:01:12
About an hour later, as we were leaving to go out, my mate went to get some of his money. He came out paid as a ghost, saying his money wasn't in there. My heart sank. I realized straight away I'd obviously left it on the stove, and a stranger had been in there and taken it. He asked which of us had been in there last.

01:07:01:14 – 01:07:21:13
I said it was Billy. He didn't pop in an argument. We'd had a few beers and he obviously couldn't be sure either way if it was him or not, but I said I last went in there a while ago and it had been, since me, and so I went along with it. My mate was accusing him of stealing it.

01:07:21:15 – 01:07:43:15
It was carnage, but I kept quiet. My mate was in bits. We were 17. We didn't have any spare money to withdraw, so he had to ring his mum to transfer him more money. The years my mate at the blame. The years my mate had had the blame for being the bloke who either stole or lost my mates money.

01:07:43:17 – 01:08:12:19
But it was me to this day, over 19 years later, that is still something I need. I know I, the there's something in the recesses of my brain somewhere where I have done something like that. I don't know what it is, but there's a little tickle, like a little tick up my nose or something. There's something there where I have done something and not owned up to it and just let it go.

01:08:12:21 – 01:08:34:14
And one day I'll remember that and I'll tell that story, but I can't remember what it is. So the topic for next week is Christmas. Let us know how you spending Christmas lads! Anon at gmail.com or anything else you want to send in patrons. We'll see you today at normies. See you Monday. I hope you have a lovely Christmas.

01:08:34:16 – 01:08:36:09
See you later. Yeah. Bye.

00:00:00:10 – 00:00:28:13
321. Go. It. I finally feel like, what it was like to be a Premier League footballer. To be the 0.001% of making it as a baller and just my game crumbling in front of my eyes and just being out of my rhythm and being out of sorts. And it was hard, man. So I went to do the the food shop yesterday.

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Oh, yeah. And I was, I was a out of as always. Is that an additional pressure? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So additional pressure that you need to get stuff done. And so for people that don't know, how many supermarkets do you, when you do the big shop, how many supermarkets do you go to? I go to five.

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I drive every single mum. I will never, ever, ever understand this process. I just do not understand why you why you go to five supermarkets? Because different shops do different bits than they know one supermarket. Well, super. Like if you go to a big Asda or a big Morrisons, you can get everything you need in one shop. What is it that you can't get in Sainsbury's that you can get in Morrisons?

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What is it? So so so Aldi get most stuff in there. Yeah, but some stuff Lidl only do. But what? Fine. Give me example. So I, I dunno like mainly I go in there for the big box of Yorkshire tea that they do in Lidl and I think they do an Aldi. So he's like oh please tell me you there's more.

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You don't just go to a little for a big box of Yorkshire tea. No no no. So because right. But this, this is so you have some weird sauna and, hobbies. I know, yeah I know it's funny, but it also. Ricky, it's not just this. It's like, if unless you come to your own conclusion about something, you won't do it.

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Even if you're given good advice. Yeah. And I, I know, I know, I didn't know that about myself until you said this on the pot. And I was like, no, that's not right. My mates, my go to make sure like that is absolutely right. We tell you all the advice and you just do not do it. Yeah.

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And you look at and you, but you go, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. And you'd like. I'm wasting my breath here and you're wasting your breath. Just say I'm not going to do it. I'm going to ignore you. Just say that. I'd prefer that it'd be more respectful to just call me me off. Good. Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Anyway, I was in Audi, right? And, normally when I, when I shop, I fill my trolley up. I have, like, you know, like, meat comes in plastic containers, structured boxes. Yeah. The structured boxes go at the front. Yeah. The odd shaped stuff goes in the middle and then not bread. Soft stuff goes at the back. It's a pale.

00:02:48:15 – 00:03:13:17
Yeah. Exactly like a like a Premier League football. I do the stretching, do my homework and all that. Like, you know I've got it out on, all on the trolley, all on the conveyor belt. So the packaging was there, the hard stuff and then the mix and then fruit got to the bit where in Aldi they just throw the shopping at you, grab it, put all the stuff, the hard stuff, the bottom of the bags.

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They've got a great foundation, a good base to put everything on. Nothing gets squished right. And then you build first. First bit of meat went in there, second bit third. It slipped through my fingers and I that fuck. Right. So I went to go and get it again. But then I saw another item slide down. So that fucker and he slowed down to pick the pace up where she's getting it, where she's scanning the item and chucking it at me.

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Oh right. Your. Yeah, yeah. It's going faster than you can pack. Yeah, yeah that's right. Right. And then I went to pick up another thing and it slipped through my hand. And then the second thought I was like, shall I put it in this bag? More items are coming down and I'm I'm starting to panic now. I've lost my head.

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I've got proper head loss. Yeah. And then a quarter of the way through the shampoo. Shampoo bottle came as I picked up the lid unraveled. Got shampoo on my hands. I'm standing there dilly dallying. I don't know what to do. And shopping is just building and I was just like, I can't wait for this to be over. Yeah.

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And it just completely unsettled me. My bags were packed like fucking an idiot. Pack them. I was embarrassed and I was so ashamed at my shop in a bit of a and I was just like, total fucking head lost. I just got out of there. I sat in the car, really fucked off, and I just thought, this is exactly what happens to a footballer.

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You know, one pass doesn't go right and it gets in their rage. They get in their own heads. And this, you know, the shopping parallels. Exactly. And I mean exactly the same. Yeah I, I've been in this situation before really where I know I'm like a League two footballer when it comes to this. I'm not even I, I bet I'm Sandy League.

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I would say I'm terrible so much, said my missus. Just I have to stand aside when my missus packs and I'm sitting there, I'm like, I could be helping here. But I know the minute I start helping, I'm not helping. Yeah, making everything worse. And it's like the it's like a blessing in disguise as well, because the same applies to decorating the house is more or less I'm just not allowed near it.

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More or less. That's understandable. Yeah, I am a bit slapdash. I did have to go. I did have to go in because we having some carpets put down, so it had to be finished, not leave work. So I was the only one. And I'm like, see, I've got. What do you mean? No, no no man. Someone had to do it.

00:05:31:08 – 00:05:54:09
And I came to the I did it, I came to the floor. I couldn't tell you how nervous I was painting it. I think all sorts of things. Like yesterday I went to Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and I produced a podcast live in front of a galley who were editing and vision mixing as I was podcasting. Right? Oh, fuck yeah, it was a big deal.

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Yeah, it was a lot of people there and I was fine. I felt calm, right. But then podcast a long, long time. But even in that situation where you've got like a studio galley, everything's going on like a TV, it's a TV show. I'll tell you about a TV studio. Yeah. And you've just gone in there, right? So did you die?

00:06:18:14 – 00:06:39:01
You were just telling me this. Yeah, I was there a long day that you did. You recorded free podcasts, and then you had to travel one hour from. So you had to drive 45 minutes to the train station. Your your local train station. Yeah. So we did three podcasts the football Twitter, the Lions to Fighting Cock and Javan.

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Yeah. And then I and then I was like, I missed my first train. So, so I knew I was going to be like going to Spurs, but it wasn't too bad because we give us a two hour buffer. So I got the train to, I drove the 45 minutes to Chippenham, Chippenham to Paddington and the cafe said, do you want a car?

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We can send you a car. And Alison Lee and I, I bit bougie, but I drove to get that train because you know where you are with a train with the traffic in London. I was in the cab an hour and 40 minutes from Paddington to Enfield. We had training ground. This it was mayhem. So I got there.

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There was no buffer. They were like, right, we need to start straight away. I was like, okay, good. Parachuted straight in. There you go. There's you say. Yeah. And I felt more comfortable in that moment where I had Mickey has a Josh James. I had a bloke I'd never met before. Was thrust upon me and, a woman from Samaritans called My Lovely Woman and the galley and the director and, head of PR for Tottenham Hotspur, standing there watching, and I felt more comfortable there than I did in, in the bedroom.

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The audience I the day before that, before the carpets had to go down.

00:07:58:17 – 00:08:24:09
Mate, I couldn't imagine how. How have you been? So how would you be so calm in that situation? Not that, you know, going into that. I'm not. I'm not. This is I'm not saying I'm not blowing my own trumpet here. I'm just saying, like, if you've done something 5000 times, it doesn't really matter as long as you can get yourself in the space of like, you've done this a million times before, this is no different then you're right.

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Like.

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It'd be like writing a tweet or. But the the environment was different. Yeah. You're playing away from home. Yeah. But it's the principle is the same. I knew so I'd spent to be fair, I'd spent two days writing running order. Right. So I knew what I was saying. I knew what I was doing, okay. And I knew that I would be bring in, you know, there was going to be corners coming in.

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And actually, I didn't have to do a lot other than facilitate the conversation. Really? Yeah. So, yeah, there was there was that. So, yeah, it was fun. It was fun. It was I'm not you know, I the best bit about that, you know, despite all that and seeing the training ground was holding the Europa League trophy that was I didn't know that you weren't allowed to hold it when you did that.

00:09:08:00 – 00:09:49:13
All right, so, yeah, I know you're quite jealous of me. Mate, when I saw that. So there's two things, right? You did a I can't remember if I saw the the photos first or your Instagram post of you, would you kind of just filmed, selfie. Just saying. I've just done the podcast and all that, that, there's a couple of frames where if you can freeze it and then you do the smile of you being there, and it is so pure that it's, you know, that proud, kind of like, I don't know, you could just see the goodness in how good you felt, and how kind of you were just like,

00:09:49:15 – 00:10:07:03
I've had a good day. Yeah. Oh, like, I felt like it just looked like good. I was how I was felt content that I'd finished the day. I never achieved something. Oh, nice for me. Thank you. I didn't even notice that. But but but I was. So I was on the way out of the reception, but. Well, so.

00:10:07:05 – 00:10:26:16
So I got dropped off at the Academy. Part of the reception, and I was looking around and there's like sweet wrappers everywhere, and there's like just random families just sitting around. Obviously, they drop the kids off the train. I didn't know, I just thought this was the main reception. And I'm like, got to be honest, expensive, more. Right?

00:10:26:19 – 00:10:48:09
And then and then the PR, the Tony, the PR guy I've been working with to set this all up, even. Mate, you're in the wrong entrance. This is this is just like PR. Yes, it's like that, you know. You know, but under eights come like parents drop them off and they start their thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when I got round to the first team reception, I was like, oh, I get it now.

00:10:48:09 – 00:11:09:09
This is fucking beautiful. This is lovely. Anyway, we rushed in to do the pod and then it came out. Anyway, I'm going to leave here, but just do not go walking down these corridors, right? You're not allowed. It is restricted access. Like when you're in the academy at Spurs. You're not allowed in this area. You have to earn your stripes to get into the first team.

00:11:09:13 – 00:11:34:02
We've talked about this in the preview, but anyway, I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there, Rick and waiting for my cab. And I look to the right and I was like, oh my God, that's the Europa League trophy. That's the Europa League trophy. Just looking at, yeah, I did a selfie and the bloke so many men come here.

00:11:34:04 – 00:11:58:12
Hey, do you want to hold it? And I was like, yeah, it's all right. I mean, we all, Anyway, you guys. Yeah. And I went, what? Can I hold it, hold it by the bottom and we'll take some photos. And I was like, right, this is insane. I it's 30, 33 pounds. It's 15kg. That is that's what I mean.

00:11:58:12 – 00:12:30:01
That's that. If if something is too heavy, too heavy for a trophy to be, lofted above your head, not necessarily heavy, I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it it it it does. Look it is. Well, I it was a good day. I've been looking to do a stadium tour, especially this season with my kids, because you get to see the Europa League trophy, but it's got one of those velvet kind of ropes cordoned off when you get to kind of, you know, when you do goes for ice with celebrities and your arms just hovering behind them.

00:12:30:01 – 00:12:51:03
Me not touching them. Yeah. You kind of like that with the Europa League and you can't touch it. You can't get anywhere near it. And then I saw these WhatsApp messages come free of just you just skulking down the Tottenham corridors just over this Europa League trophy. I was like, you fucking what? What was that? Oh yeah. Oh.

00:12:51:03 – 00:13:15:09
It's like that. It's fucking Reeves. You're a bastard. But it's really. It's not. You know, I don't think anyone's allowed to touch it. You got to be a certain breed, all right? Plebeians are not even nowhere near it. Should we run the jingle? Yeah. Let's do it.

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On the night, hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi. Is quiet. Midnight waves surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love music's I, we prayed with our tongues in cheek banners. And we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous. It's episode 128.

00:13:46:03 – 00:14:06:18
I'm Ricky, he's Flav Jay best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions. And I feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous all way. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going? So I see that. Tired? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Danny boy 84. You just got bad. Mate, is fucking Matt in it?

00:14:06:18 – 00:14:30:12
That is a that is an absolute shoo in as well. You can't walk around with that kind of energy and expect nothing to happen. Eventually someone will catch a movie. It's a lesson to to to people like him, really. And the people that celebrate him is that you just you still anyone acting like that, giving it the big I am someone.

00:14:30:12 – 00:14:54:12
There's always someone bigger, stronger, more ruthless. And he got an absolute kick in. His face is like, unbelievable in it. Yes. It's terrible. I mean, yeah, you think I'm like, you saying that you can't give out that energy and you can't go around being like that because it will catch up with you eventually. Not three months ago, you had a fucking knife in his neck.

00:14:54:12 – 00:15:18:19
Did you not learn your lesson? Being stabbed in the throat? Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. It's not. You would. Yeah. You would tone it down a little bit. It wouldn't. I mean, I don't know the backstory. I don't really want to know the backstory, but I just it just came up on my, TikTok feed page, and I just saw it, and I was like, that can't be fucking real.

00:15:18:21 – 00:15:53:20
Just scrolling back through it and and hitting the face of a hammer and beating up by four geezers. And it is just me. It is absolutely grim, utterly grim. But Merry Christmas to you, is it? No, no I ain't. And, we will get into the Christmassy bit. What I do want to say is we had a milestone this week that's anonymous, and we surpassed over 500,000 downloads, half a million downloads.

00:15:53:22 – 00:16:15:09
I just want to say thank you to everyone that has downloaded, listened or downloaded send emails in submissions for something 90 you know, dilemmas or the positive comments that you leave on Spotify. The writing and not all of it. Anyone and everyone. If you're listening to this and you've been a part of this show, I just want to say thank you.

00:16:15:09 – 00:16:36:14
It means the world to us. And yet we're not diary of a CEO or Joe Rogan. And those numbers won't have, you know, but it's amazing for us. And I just want to say thank you from the bottom, my heart for continuing to listen and tune in to lots and on. Should we get on to the actual, Christmassy bit now?

00:16:36:16 – 00:17:02:19
We can do it. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, absolutely. It's Christmas time. I'll fucking love. I don't know what to tell you. Something weird. Yeah, on. Well, I don't know if you sing. This is weird, right? My, my, Riff, I'm just telling you now, I think I've made your afternoon more difficult than it needs to be, because I've been trying to straighten up the camera on this recording.

00:17:02:21 – 00:17:32:23
Yeah, and I'll be moving around. I have no idea whether I've put it back to where it was before. So if you start cursing me, it be good for good reason. I didn't mean to, but, you know. No, no. So my stepmom battery. Yeah. Invited my mum. My dad's previous wife. Yeah. And her husband to have Christmas with them.

00:17:33:00 – 00:17:55:11
They're all meeting up and having Christmas together. I'm going to go as well. Obviously. Travel. Well, what, like a wholesome, nice thing to do. But I mean, even it's amazing. I think even, like. Yeah, even even I don't know really. I think some people would find it strange, but I think that I've never really just felt like she wanted to invite my mum.

00:17:55:11 – 00:18:18:18
And so I guess we can all have Christmas together, which is lovely. Yeah. That is, that is really. That's really sweet. And you kind of got, Yeah. You have to. I know most people wouldn't do that, would they? Not not you wouldn't invite your ex and to have that kind of, not self-assured ness of it's in the past.

00:18:18:18 – 00:18:47:08
They are in the 70s. They get to a point where, you know, you just all that shit doesn't matter anymore. I don't know, maybe it does. I don't know that it would be a part of me that if I was having Christmas dinner with one of someone that had, you know, been with my missus, that hasn't popping a roast potato in my mouth, just thinking she's touched your dick, and I know.

00:18:47:10 – 00:19:10:14
Yeah. Right there. Is that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could have happened 40 years ago. I, but I know, and that's what I'm thinking about while I'm eating this potato, so I, I wouldn't be able to do it because I'm not, a strong man. I'm not. I, I wouldn't be able to kind of go through with it, but it's.

00:19:10:14 – 00:19:33:15
Yeah. Are place to play. What are you, How, like, how ready are you for Christmas, mate? I've done nothing. Nothing? I mean, my missus has, but I've done nothing. I'd say when she's have ready. What, like, There's presents. I need to buy this. I've done nothing. I've done zero. I've bought, I've bought. Let's see what I've done.

00:19:33:15 – 00:19:57:00
I've paid for carpet to be laid, I bought wardrobes, I've paid for the entire house pretty much through the year. And now there's no money left, right? So there's no presents. There's no money left for presents. The present is the house. That's the presents anyway. So, now I feel like because I've been so busy and today I'm like, I'm not even, like.

00:19:57:00 – 00:20:19:24
This is one of four podcasts I'm doing today, so I don't know. I'm just hoping that they understand I've been busy and that when, like, I don't know, I don't turn up with shitloads of presents and stuff that they'll understand. So. No, I'm. I'm sure I'm not ready. That's. What. Are you ready? I, fairly ready. I've still got my, like, my nephew's presents to buy.

00:20:20:01 – 00:20:43:12
I still got my dad's to buy because now I'm at this stage where I don't know what to buy people anymore. And like, with my missus and my kids, like, so my kids, my missus will sort all that out, and there'll be a couple of items that I'll see, and I'll be like, she'll like that. She'll like that, buy them.

00:20:43:14 – 00:21:07:12
And then it's like I contribute a bit to it. But then my missus normally does the main run of that, unless absolutely fine. But I'm also getting like stressed out with, Secret Santa. So we do Secret Santa on my missus side, and we do Secret Santa on my side, and it's all done via an app or whatever.

00:21:07:12 – 00:21:31:09
And you put down on your list what people want, but then people like that, I'm getting messages, anonymous messages saying it's nearly Christmas. You haven't had the delivery. What would you want? I need to get you something. And it's like, I don't even know what I want for like £20 or £25. Like just why it why, why is someone buying me a present now a thing I have to worry about?

00:21:31:11 – 00:21:55:00
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. My missus is taking me out outside. I've just been round my mum's. You haven't done your list. What, you giving anything or you're stressing them out. You're stressing me out. I genuinely would rather have nothing, received nothing. Didn't have to go through the process of telling everybody what I want. I'd rather have nothing. I'm not sure that's true with you, though, Ricky.

00:21:55:00 – 00:22:16:05
Actually, no, no, not really nice. No, I do want something. What? What what is it that you don't know? I, I, I'm like, looking around and I'm like, I that's the thing. I'm just guys scrolling through Amazon and I'm like O2 or whatnot, as I say. How old are you now? 42. Right. 4343 oh, yeah. It was just 43.

00:22:16:05 – 00:22:42:20
Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday. Yeah. As a 43 year old man, are you genuinely sitting down on Christmas morning and going, the better be presents for me as well. No no no no. All right. So there was absolutely nothing for you. I think if there was nothing at all, nothing. Nothing. Yes. Zero things. You're just well, you're just watching your wife pass presents out to everyone.

00:22:43:01 – 00:22:59:10
And as you look, the presence of diminishing from under the tree, you know, I think I've actually got my one year and then it's like the last present, you know. So she saved the best till last, and she goes to give it to you and divert to one of the kids. So, yeah. You're like, what? Like nothing.

00:22:59:16 – 00:23:23:11
Nothing, nothing. Oh fuck off. Yeah, yeah, I think nothing is a lot. But I think, I'm not I'm not, bothered about Christmas presents or anything like that. Or birthday presents. Nothing. But I'm. I don't mind. That's the same. I like the best thing about Christmas isn't the presents for me. The best thing is just chilling out, having a drink.

00:23:23:13 – 00:23:45:13
Everyone's cool. You sit down and have a meal, have a little snooze. It's just that lovely, relaxed feeling on Christmas Day that's the best fit for me. I like other people opening stuff. It's one of your thoughts when you wake up on Christmas morning, your eyes open. You're like, I don't have to record a podcast. Thank fuck. Do you know what?

00:23:45:13 – 00:24:05:09
I've got Boxing Day off as well. And the day after, because Spurs went and hang on a second win. I suppose playing I don't know I, I don't wanna know either I know I yeah I know but I think I do have to have Boxing Day cause specifying the day after 20th. No, this is not the podcast.

00:24:05:09 – 00:24:27:20
That podcast in 2nd December. No. What the fuck am I talking about anyway? Look, I 28th Christmas Day. It will be fine. No Christmas. Sorry, sorry. That was rubbish. You. You won't have to do anything. No one. That's nice in it. You don't have to think. The only thing you have to think about. What am I going to eat next?

00:24:27:22 – 00:24:49:00
What? What little delight am I going to find that I'm going to be? What time do you start drinking? I'm like, when can I start drinking? That's what. Great question, great question. Now I have always like for the last, last year we didn't, but the year before I think I did 3 or 4 Christmases at my gaff. Yeah.

00:24:49:02 – 00:25:08:15
And I did all the cooking. So when I start cooking, you know as well as I know that when you start cooking, the tunes are going, you've got to have a beer, you got to have a red wine. You got it. When you saying the tunes are going, you know, talking about fucking in the bushes and, you know, supersonic.

00:25:08:15 – 00:25:37:04
He was talking about Chris Smith, vertically up, crashes into us to die, but yes, I yes, well Christmas everyone. Merry Christmas is Christmas music. Is it? I bit this mass, right. But, it's your playlist. That's what goes on. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Because I'm fucking taking the one cooking, boy. But, yeah, I will go for.

00:25:37:04 – 00:25:58:23
And I'll go through some beers, but it won't be Canada beers. There's a psychological thing of if I have bottles, bottles of beers, it will give me a nice little, like, a little buzz, but I can carry on with my day and carry on doing stuff, being a little bit tipsy if I get on the cans, like I'm nicking cans of Red stripe, but like 11:00 in the morning, there's going to be trouble.

00:25:59:00 – 00:26:18:13
It can be trouble. And like, my missus will probably come into the kitchen while I've been nicking cans of Bridget. I'm like, Where's Rick? And I'm just in the garden pissing. What are you doing? I can't be assed. Got a tweet? Fuck it. Smoking a fagot. The sides have. Yeah, yeah. So I have to, I like to go.

00:26:18:16 – 00:26:42:15
I probably won't start before 11:00. Yeah. 11:00. 11 is, you're an hour away from midday. You know, you start in the cooking, then probably a little bit earlier, but I'll go off ten. I'll go about ten off ten. Oh, crap. That happened. Fuck me straight in there. Oh, no. I was about to say not even a cheeky little buck's face or a little.

00:26:42:15 – 00:26:58:12
Yeah, a little boxes in the morning. Get that out of the way. And then whiskey. The like. I don't know, really. I it's just for me. So they, I'm going to do what I want. I'm going to do what I want. Yeah, I don't I haven't done what I want. Oh yeah I've, I've done the opposite of what I want.

00:26:58:13 – 00:27:17:17
What I want to do all day is sit on my ass, play computer or watched darts or watch cricket or watch football. Yeah, have my hand down my pants. That's what I want. Sounds good. The opposite of what I want is what I do every single day, right? Right. So on Christmas Day, I do. I want.

00:27:17:17 – 00:27:51:09
Yeah, okay. And what I want to do is have this lovely experience with my family, and, Yeah, but be completely inebriated with alcohol throughout the day. Yeah. We didn't get to speak about this, but your your birthday. You did. You had, you watched the entire boxset of. Yeah. So I first of all as a little kind of a, as a star, I watched the 80s version, cartoon version of Transformers get so, meh.

00:27:51:09 – 00:28:14:10
And there's so much in that film. I know it's it's a cartoon, right? You don't see the animation, but it's but there's just so many bits to it, the emotions in there and the one line kind of like jokes in there and, it's just great. So great. All of it. Sadness. So it's a true example of good versus evil.

00:28:14:10 – 00:28:31:20
Like before the Star Wars, there was a pretty Star Wars was when it came out. But there was that. That is like like if you've got a young boy or maybe a young girl as well. I don't know if you kids have ever watched it. I tried to try to make them. Yes. Weird. They just doing that. And for us it was just like, of course, why wouldn't anyone watch this?

00:28:31:22 – 00:28:54:12
Especially if you're a kid. But they like you. They want. They have different things that stimulate them. Now, the amount of times I've tried to get my kids involved in a, nostalgia film that I absolutely love, and they just kind of wrinkle them. And I try not tried Goonies, but The Goonies. Oh, okay. I might try that.

00:28:54:12 – 00:29:17:24
You try that. The the probably stupid little brain's just been so rotted by the fucking TikTok and Instagram Reels. Yeah, they can't sit still for an hour and watch it. And maybe if it was in real form or TikTok form, they just scroll it. But it's the entire film. Yeah. Big Trouble in Little China. Tried to get my kids to watch it.

00:29:18:01 – 00:29:56:15
They cannot spell that. That I can understand, that I can understand, it is dated. Yeah, but it's never in the same when they try that one. I think they have. Yeah, I think they have, actually. Yeah. It's still harrowing. The whole scene. Yeah. Yeah, it never and and still, there there's a, an amazing YouTube video of someone trying to sell their house and they sing along to never Ending Story, but the never ending property.

00:29:56:17 – 00:30:20:04
And then they replace all of the song, but just talking about the house, and it's, you know, where something is so awfully dumb that it goes viral. It's, my, it's the fucking one of my most favorite videos. Absolutely. Class. Right. I remember last year talking to you. Yep. The hangover you had on Boxing Day? Yes. Was it Boxing Day?

00:30:20:05 – 00:30:39:03
Yeah. It was. And that was a real that was a real turning moment. And you're like, I'm not drink drinking again because you were just felt so bad. Like is it a are you at that point where like I'm going to do it, I'm going to get fucking drunk again? Or are you like, it's a little, it's a little bit, I thought, I don't want to.

00:30:39:07 – 00:31:03:22
I want to feel like that again. December 26th I stopped drinking for four months. From that day, I didn't have a drink for four months until, the Eubank Benn fight. First or first one, and is in the back of my mind. Do that again. Yeah, something like that. What? Not to go as heavy or go heavy and then.

00:31:03:24 – 00:31:19:21
No, it wasn't that wasn't just Christmas Day. And then I was like, I can't these hangovers so bad. I've got to quit for four months. That was like my blood pressure was through the roof. I had to have checkups I had it wasn't just like I had drunk a lot on Christmas Day. It was like I was ill.

00:31:19:23 – 00:31:47:21
I was like, I was stage three, hypertension, blood pressure, bad. Like I couldn't necessarily have my operation I needed because my blood pressure was so high that it wasn't just because I had a bad hangover from Christmas diary. I took the the the the whiskey hangover on Boxing Day was was a bad one. It I was a I was I had my checkup oh about four days before Christmas.

00:31:47:21 – 00:32:12:10
So I knew there was an issue. Right. But I was like, well, I'm just going to enjoy Christmas and then. All right. But then I did wake up on Boxing Day feeling awful, like, fuck. Oh, God. So like compounded, I had this background notion that I needed to have my blood pressure in check before my operation came around was to fix my my, the old dick.

00:32:12:12 – 00:32:33:14
It wasn't my dick. So it was next to my dick. The doctor, had took. And, so I needed to get my blood pressure down before I had the operation. So, and there's a history of blood pressure, and so. And and and I was my my lifestyle was. I was just sitting in this chair all day.

00:32:33:14 – 00:32:55:00
Now things are different. I'm excited. Wait, look, the point is, I. I'm going to be drinking on Christmas Day. Yes. Yeah. Okay, okay. Well, I get what I get. Fucking. So I'm going to get your face. I said yeah everyone's getting face times. Not everyone. Everyone not like you're getting one. Friends and close family all face time. Good, good.

00:32:55:00 – 00:33:15:00
So you say you all going round you dad said. And sorry. You said about your mum's been invited. It's taken up that often. Is she. Yeah, yeah. They coming up on Christmas Eve, I think. I haven't spent Christmas Day with my mum for about eight years. Oh my God, this is going to be so nice. So. And there's not enough room at my mum's house to kind of have everybody around.

00:33:15:00 – 00:33:36:07
So that's why they invite them. So I think yeah, I think it's gonna be a nice thing. Oh, that's gonna be fucking sweet. Yeah. Free dogs eat free dogs and a dow terrier, which is a big sort of terrier, Frank. And, it can be a madhouse. That is. Yeah, she is. You know what I am? What time are you going over?

00:33:36:09 – 00:33:59:02
Well, this is it, right? The the conversation is, are we got Christmas Eve because we're having, like, an open house sort of party on Christmas Eve at my, at the New, new gaff. Not party like, just coming up for drinks and. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we might probably end up staying there and then going over early first thing Christmas morning and staying Christmas night.

00:33:59:04 – 00:34:28:12
Nice. Yeah. I think that's the worst Boxing Day. So what she, she has done for the last since I. No, no, she always works boxing. She works in hospitality. Then she's a, god doing stuff on Boxing Day. What more. What more on more on books up. Fucking sent the parks. Just stays there for Christmas knowing full well people have fuckers after work it because you've decided, wouldn't it be nice to stay at center parts?

00:34:28:18 – 00:34:52:06
Yeah, it would be nice. What about my family's been torn apart on Boxing Day so that you can have your fucking Boxing Day, and then the parks. Yeah. Bastards like what I say. We've we've spoken a lot on, Christmas food, dinner. Yeah, yeah. And you're, you're very against, mashed potato being on a Christmas dinner now. Yeah.

00:34:52:06 – 00:35:23:06
Okay. Well, I say that. I see that, right? Yeah. I'm at my mum's this year, and I think that's the thing I'm most excited about because my mum's cooking is phenomenal. I remember, but I first got the mashed potato to. Well, I'm just I want to know, does this dog put mashed potato on the well, I think I don't know if she'll she'll do because there'll be lots of, bowls and plates and stuff.

00:35:23:06 – 00:35:41:18
And you go inside yourself. Really? So I think there will be. You can have Mash if you want. Yeah. I mean, if you want and I, I yeah, yeah. Like, if you want a bit of mash you, you to put a bit much on your Christmas dinner it, you know having Christmas dinner but if you. Yeah if you want mash on it you put on it.

00:35:41:22 – 00:36:05:06
Just don't say you're having my all Christmas dinner. Just say you're having a dinner on Christmas Day. That's ridiculous. You're not. You're not fucking eating Christmas dinner then. All right, let me let me know. I'm not either. I'm not. I'm watching you. Just you just having dinner? I'm having dinner while everyone else around me has Christmas dinner. But if you go to.

00:36:05:08 – 00:36:15:18
If you go to, Italy, you go to Bologna. Yeah. And you order.

00:36:15:20 – 00:36:39:22
A carbonara. Yeah. Are you having spaghetti bolognese merely because you're in Bologna? Or are you having a carbonara? You don't have an apology. All you. You're having a carbonara night, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So if you're if you're eating mashed potato with a Christmas dinner, you're not having Christmas dinner, are you? You're having you're having dinner on Christmas Day.

00:36:39:24 – 00:37:01:05
But it isn't Christmas dinner because you put mashed potato on it. You put bacon in a polynesia's. It's still a Polynesian. No, I think it is. No, it is not. No, it is not. Ricky. It's a different thing. Right? What is it? Okay. What what is a traditional Christmas dinner then to me, to be able to have a sit down and have my Christmas dinner and go.

00:37:01:07 – 00:37:26:16
Do you know what? I'm having a lovely Christmas dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't fucking start talking about having a Christmas dinner unless you're having another Christmas dinner. I'm. I'm also not having a Christmas dinner because I'm not eating turkey. Okay. I know for a fact you don't have turkey. You have beef and chicken. Tiny. Well, this there has been discussion, so it's either a beef and gammon or chicken and gammon.

00:37:26:16 – 00:37:43:01
You. So you've never had a Christmas dinner. You've never had one. You've never. You don't know. You don't know what you haven't. We buy a like a crown Turkey crown, okay. Not the whole big thing. And we have a couple of fucking dry slices, right? Oh, no. Right, right, right. But, you know, look, it ain't about whether you like it.

00:37:43:05 – 00:38:07:08
It's Christmas Day. Therefore you have that food. It's not about what you like. Are you getting this mistaken here? Not everyone likes brussel sprouts. You've got to eat them if you're having Christmas dinner. Okay? Alright. Okay. So the point I'm making is you can't change things and call it the same. It isn't the same. It is Christmas dinner or it isn't Christmas dinner.

00:38:07:09 – 00:38:28:13
I, I don't know why this is difficult. It's cauliflower cheese. Part of Christmas dinner. Oh, yeah. I don't think it is part of tradition. My fucking Christmas dinner is. Well, exactly. This is my plate. This is it. This is you make your own Christmas dinner. We agree. No, no no no. Mashed potatoes, mental mashed potato. No one mashed potato on a Sunday roast.

00:38:28:15 – 00:38:49:03
And this is the thing. Christmas dinner stems from a Sunday roast. Latin America. Yes. Yeah, yeah. No one in America. Everyone. So you listen to. This is never you. None of you have ever had Christmas dinner in your life. Not one of you. Oh, my God. Know what they put Collard greens. What the fuck? What the fuck? Right, I hear that, but what is collard?

00:38:49:03 – 00:39:14:09
Great. It's great. Green beans. Green beans? Yeah. Well why why why why call it die? What? Because, like, you put their names on everything, don't they? But, like, they take our, our language and then laugh at us for for the the words we use. You know, it's our fucking language. You you you borrowed it. You took it, and then you change it made it worse.

00:39:14:09 – 00:39:43:21
And then you look at us and go, no, what you're doing is stupid. But you didn't say, get your own language. Talk another language. You're talking English. Talk another language. So let's agree here. What? What, this is all right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Brussels starts. Okay. Brussels sprouts. And if we say Brussels sprouts, right? Are we saying that it has to be, traditional of just boiled Brussels sprouts everyone hates?

00:39:43:21 – 00:40:02:05
Or can we zhuzh up with some slices of bacon, salt, pepper. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's fine. The Brussels sprout is you can zap a Brussels sprout and like, with a bit of bacon if you want or. Yeah, that's fine. I don't have any issues. Love I love sprouts. Yes I tell you what I think they're amazing.

00:40:02:07 – 00:40:29:17
Well Brussels sprouts, roasted carrots, roasted parsnips. Do not even think about serving up boiled carrots. Right. They've got to be roasted. Yeah. What? You can't be bothered. Is that what this is? That's what it like. Sometimes I go around my dad's house and we're sitting down and you've cooked all this food, but you can't. And you also have not boiled carrots, but you can't put that in the oven, honey, glaze them.

00:40:29:19 – 00:40:48:11
Yeah, yeah. So yeah. And, salt and pepper maybe, you know, some I like herbs and or whatever. Yeah. Like something you just boil them and put them on my plate. That's all that's happening. Yeah, yeah. That's that. Yeah. And you eat, you put them in your mouth, Rick. And it just is what? Carry water. Juice. That's what it is.

00:40:48:13 – 00:41:13:14
Whereas a rose carrot substance has character and add something I, I'm here for that. Yeah yeah yeah yeah totally. Right. This is going to be controversial. All right. Most people will say cauliflower cheese I know I'm contradicting myself here, but. Right. Okay. Cheesy leeks. Superior than cauliflower cheese. However, that's not crisp. No Christmas. No. Yeah. I would rather have those.

00:41:13:16 – 00:41:44:20
How much? I'd much rather have cheesy cheesy leeks than cauliflower cheese. But. Right. Cauliflower cheese is there. Yeah, right. Do you have cauliflower cheese? Fuck yeah. It's all right. I'm walking straight back out going I'm demoing cauliflower cheese. And then what else are we talking? Yeah, obviously roast potatoes guys about Yorkshire put that isn't traditional apparently. No it's not, because you're only you're only supposed to have Yorkshire pudding when you have roast beef.

00:41:44:22 – 00:42:05:23
Fuck that man. That's too good. It's too good. It's so good not to have it. And and then now I understand that people can. Well, mashed potato is good. It is. Mashed potato is great, but it's too far out there. Yorkshire pudding is so commonplace on a roast that I think you can transport that to a Christmas dinner still.

00:42:06:00 – 00:42:26:19
Yeah. Okay. Right. No one ever put mashed potato on a roast, ever. Yeah I know, do you know what I, I'm starting to feel that even if I did have. And I do love mashed potato. Mashed potato. You can have like, I don't know, mashed potato sausage and beans. So it's such like, it's just I don't know the low level of mashed potatoes.

00:42:27:00 – 00:42:47:13
It's just had slop to the plate in my opinion. And there is always a danger, if too much gravy that you the Christmas dinner can become sloppy. Yeah. Don't want you do not want that. So where are you at with stuffing? Oh my. I fucking love stuff. I love all the sausage, sausage, meat in it as well. I can imagine that.

00:42:47:15 – 00:43:13:05
Yeah. So much. Not so much. But yeah, it is. Yeah. And I like it to be soft and spongy, but like, like a bit crisped up on the surface as well. A little bit of. Yes of course. Texture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm also like, and I know my mum would, say I'm glad she fucking bit, actually, but I'm going to WhatsApp her WhatsApp for as well as I.

00:43:13:05 – 00:43:43:07
Don't you dare make matters. Hey, I love, carrot and Swede mash. I don't think you can have that either. Like, what a fuck. No. Great Greek. I know, it's nice. Does it belong though? It's a it's a lovely veg that fuzed together. You don't really have it anywhere else. You know, going to a pub and have fucking with your pie and whatever you don't see, you don't see it.

00:43:43:09 – 00:44:07:06
It's a special day. Okay. I don't think it's just it's not traditional. It isn't a no mash. It should be really nearer again. I've got issues with the mash. Okay, but fine. Alright, I'll give you that. If it's in a bowl, separate. Not like you have this on the plate. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Do you know what I don't write?

00:44:07:08 – 00:44:36:16
Sometimes people do shredded red letters and then. But they boil cabbage. So red cabbage, boiled red cabbage. Not really. Yeah. Someone that some people do that is I don't mind it. It's nice, but it's just like. What. You know what we do doing it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Nice condiment trick. Okay, now we're talking, boy. So it's red sauce.

00:44:36:18 – 00:44:59:10
I don't know why. Right. Red sauce is I should imagine is is pretty much tasteless. It's not you know, it doesn't really have anything to it. It's a loving ball. I have to bring it to the party, though. Do you have it? Yeah. No one ever requests it. Or else we just don't bother. Read a I don't know why.

00:44:59:12 – 00:45:23:05
Like, I think you would have a bucket of red sauce by mum. This fella really loves it. Absolutely loves it. I know this is one request. Well, well you know. Yeah. That's cool. So that's, one request. Red sauce. May I look, if you're, if I've, if you're right. Right, right, I got you. I've got a question for you.

00:45:23:05 – 00:45:48:08
Right. Okay. You'll have two condiments. What are you choosing? It's bread sauce economy. Yes. Versus condiment gravy. No. No gravy that you can't. Right. Okay. People that don't have gravy, like, you know, my my daughter Chloe, she doesn't have. She doesn't have gravy. She never has gravy. I don't understand it, but she doesn't. I, she recoils the crazy shit.

00:45:48:10 – 00:46:09:12
Well, she she has a dry. Yeah, yeah. Like we went to the pub the other day. But he as well. And I'm like, man, what's the matter with you? She, she has it dry as well. Yeah. Does does Ram not recognize your fucking job but. Yeah. Same same this same same same as well. And Chloe's the oldest.

00:46:09:12 – 00:46:46:24
I don't know if it's like an intelligence. Maybe a smarter. Maybe it's an intelligence thing, but I, I would go. Gravy is not a condiment. It's an essential. So. Okay, but but you've got mince sauce potentially, if you haven't beef. Yeah. You know, I mean no I, if I was having lamb mentors okay. Blam blam blam then red sauce gravy I think if I'm having beef horseradish relish I get mad.

00:46:47:01 – 00:47:07:14
Yeah I have too much though. It kind of like, doesn't matter what anyone else is cooked. It all tastes like horseradish. I yeah, I know you just put a little bit on. I added to get a kick in there. I'm not like that. Yeah. I want this whole roast potato and all this stuff. It just to taste the horseradish.

00:47:07:16 – 00:47:28:21
I do something really weird. Right. And it's been. It's a kind of family tradition. And I know that people are going to listen to this and be like, you're fucking off. You're right. And this, this will probably send you over the edge as well. Roast potatoes. I cut a little sliver in them and it will not about butter, some salt.

00:47:28:23 – 00:47:52:09
That's how I have my roast potatoes. What in everyone. Every single one. What they do a single roast potato. You prepare this for everybody like that? A no for me. My mum will do the same. My sister will do the same. My uncle does it as well. Roast potato. Every individual raised potato. But when you know when you're at the table, it can happen.

00:47:52:09 – 00:48:14:02
When I'm at the table or when I'm serving. Whenever, as long as my roast potato has been cut in half and it would know the butter is in there melting pot, it's all in there. Yeah. Then straight in a nice buttery, salty potato. Crispy on the outside from there. The trial never tried that but I don't I don't hate it.

00:48:14:02 – 00:48:39:09
It's just I don't look, I hate you. It sounds lovely, but yeah I can't be forced to do that every day. What if you've got seven potatoes? It make. It's worth it, honestly. And sometimes everyone around is all just fiddling with their potatoes constantly. Yeah, and everyone's fiddling with their potato. It's like on a Sunday. Right. So who's not gonna take it in this?

00:48:39:11 – 00:49:02:08
This demon. She won't do you know what she said? She looks. She looks. You know, this is a weird family. This is a weird. She she does think that. But she also said, oh, I can do that. Roast potatoes. Oh, my God, I don't care about roast potatoes. And then when she has it, listen to when she has a roast potatoes.

00:49:02:10 – 00:49:32:09
She picks mayo, she gets mayo and so on. No Christmas dinner on our roast potatoes. That she doesn't. She drives. She does. She's driving. So I leave her voice tonight, but, No, no, I've just been told something fucking disgusting about you. Absolutely revolting. I hope you don't play this in front of your student. I've just been told by your husband the.

00:49:32:10 – 00:49:58:24
On Christmas dinner, you put mayonnaise on your roast potatoes. Like, what is wrong with you? First, you put whole boiled eggs between two pieces of bread and call it a sandwich every Friday. And now I find out on Christmas Day that Jesus Christ is born. You're putting fucking mayonnaise on a Christmas dinner, right? That's hold. Yeah. Good, good.

00:49:58:24 – 00:50:19:03
She needs to. I've said to many, many a time. Yeah. How are you? Not like the humble roast. But I will say everything to you. Yeah, yeah. Like she's indifferent, though, which is even weirder. Like. Yeah. Yeah. Strange. That is strange. Right before we, go on to the next bit, have you got, like, Boxing Day after you've done all this?

00:50:19:07 – 00:50:45:03
Yeah, actually, I want to ask you, do you. This can be a lot of people at your house. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You've a gaming family, do you do? One of my fondest memories. Yeah, is when I ran to my cousin's house and we played, charades and all all of the big family game stuff. And I used to have so much fun, and I try to incorporate that into my family and all of the dinner and all that lot.

00:50:45:03 – 00:51:05:14
And we get roast games out and stuff, and I love it. Absolutely love it. But I'm looking at you and does everyone else. Yeah, I don't know, but it's my Christmas fucking play games. So when I was younger we got on my old man's on like a 28th and we all just, we'd have some food and then we'll just get a whiskey out and sit around the table, play cards.

00:51:05:14 – 00:51:22:08
That was fun. But just guess. Age. Drinking whiskey isn't a game. No, but they all had young kids and it just felt like just fucking ruined everything. Like kids. Yeah, but it's just like, they just like, they need your attention and, like, you can't sit down for two minutes, and then they cry, and now it's their fucking nap time.

00:51:22:08 – 00:51:46:06
And. Yeah. And I'm like, God, we can't speak too loudly because one of them is asleep upstairs. So I just get, get them all in a room and gone on the dummy fucking to leave them. So, yeah, I know it's bad in it, like other people have babies and then like it dominates even your life. Yeah, well, so we can't come around your house because the baby's asleep.

00:51:46:08 – 00:52:09:04
Yeah. No, I'm just. I'm just not coming. Then I'm not coming. Your choice. Have a baby. I'm not coming. Fair. What would you say? Yes, I say that that that poor, I thought I saw this thing on TikTok where you have to wear noise canceling headphones and you have to guess the word they're saying. I think that could be a laugh.

00:52:09:06 – 00:52:28:10
I've seen that. What? You bought. You bought that for Christmas? Yeah. Yeah. Just that. I just thought it could be a it could be fun, but a kid's like, when, honestly, you'll get this and and cherish every moment your kids want to spend with you, I promise you. I know that can be irritating at times. They get to 15 and 17 and they just it's like you don't exist.

00:52:28:12 – 00:52:51:00
It's literally they're just gone. Not not physically gone. They're very much they're eating all the food and, and, you know, are straight on the phone asking for shit constantly. So they're, they're. Yeah, in that respect. But they're not there as a right. They are doing that mentally preparing even if they don't know it to, to leave. Right.

00:52:51:00 – 00:53:23:01
So it's important that they have their own independence. But then you think about the Christmases and stuff you had where they were just excited and buzzing and just excited to be around you. Yeah, I miss that, in fact, Christmas. So hold onto it. If they're not gone already, it's going to be a part of it. Yeah, yeah. I saw this, TikTok the other day of some lady recording her children coming down the stairs, like in 2015, 2006.

00:53:23:02 – 00:53:47:03
And, you know, the the kind of delight and surprise of Santa's had been and running down and jumping around the presents and all that that I think and I think I, I, I mean, we have to we have to pull the kids out of their beds at 1:00 on Christmas Day. One of the, I'm exaggerating, but it's like, if we didn't, they would probably.

00:53:47:05 – 00:54:13:18
It's dark. Yeah. I mean, it might not happen with yours, but yeah, that kind of magic. Because this gun is different. It shifts. There's a contentment about it. But it's not magic anymore. No. So when the kids are young, it's it's an amazing thing, I think. Yeah. Anyway, I am. Yeah, I know, we have got, we've got an actual dilemma.

00:54:13:21 – 00:54:37:07
So, so we've got the dilemma. We've got so the dilemma is called what's love got to do with it? Something I know, you know, it's called I'm Not Proud, but I'm a survivor. The topic for next week, obviously you're going to be New Year's resolution. New year, new me. I'm going to listen back to our 2024 episode on New Year's Resolution.

00:54:37:09 – 00:55:05:24
See how I got on, say, how we both got on. So we want to hear your New Year resolutions for 2026. How are you planning on tackling them? Why are you doing it? Are you going to New Year's party? Are you past all of that? I most certainly am. So if you've got anything, send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we are going to jump into the dilemma.

00:55:06:01 – 00:55:34:14
So, just tell you got an issue for a tissue. You're a big fat cat, will you? I can in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friends, you deserve to play like you're safe here to get nice and warm between. Vicky, your plan. And I've got high, lads.

00:55:34:16 – 00:55:58:14
Got a bit of a dilemma. After listening to your grief episode last week and hearing how Flav reacted to the thought of losing his Mrs., it's brought something to the surface for me that's been sitting there for the last couple of years. I think my wife and I love each other and we've got three beautiful kids that we both absolutely adore, but I'm starting to feel like we're not really compatible.

00:55:58:16 – 00:56:22:13
And I think deep down we both probably know that I'm struggling with this as that. I don't think divorce would ever be an option for her. She'd stay and try to make it work no matter what. So if we ever did separate, it would basically be my decision. And that weight sits pretty heavy. Especially stuck on what it would mean for the kids.

00:56:22:15 – 00:56:43:17
I don't want to break up our family, but I also don't want to ignore something that might only get harder with time. I'm only 31, so I know time is on my side right now, but I also know if I leave this for another ten years when it won't be. And honestly, I just don't really know what the right move is.

00:56:43:19 – 00:57:15:05
Thanks lads. Love the pot. Well the pot, yeah. The right move, in my opinion, is that if you're not happy in a relationship that you should remove yourself from it in a way that is the ex that delivers the least amount of damage. Although it's impossible because there will be lots of damage and lots of fallout and lots of pain and lots of questions.

00:57:15:07 – 00:57:43:04
And those questions don't go away. But my mum left my dad when she was when I was five, and I'm kind of now a, you know, it's it was a long time ago, four years ago. Right. But I, you never stop thinking about what it would have been like if they hadn't and what it would have been like to grow up with the with my mum around all the time and in and with my dad.

00:57:43:06 – 00:57:59:08
But I can absolutely, categorically knowing my mom and my dad as well as I do, that they are not compatible in any way and my mum absolutely did the right thing. Yeah.

00:57:59:10 – 00:58:28:19
I would share that exact same thing my parents about when I was five as well. Listening to my mum's side of the story, I think she was right. She wasn't happy. And I'm always of that mind that you kind of. You only live once, right? You only get one chance at this. You only get one life. And if you spend your life being unhappy, for a reason, because of someone else or something else, that's, I don't know, you.

00:58:28:20 – 00:58:48:09
You do need to have a think about that. Because if you're going to be in ten years time still with this, you're still with your wife for the because you want to keep the family unit together and the kids and all, all of that stuff. It's like, essentially you're missing out on ten years of your life with someone else.

00:58:48:09 – 00:59:12:21
That could have been much more fulfilling and more shared experiences and love and stuff like that. So I'm always like, I am kind of like, you get one chance at this. What? Like, why be unhappy? But I also understand that you have a young family. You don't want to break that up. And there is that point of, you know, not being in their lives as much or you getting the blame for it.

00:59:12:21 – 00:59:39:16
And so I understand it's a really hard decision to make. But the wrong decision. And I'm not saying this is the wrong you might be that you feel like this now and then, you do some work together, or you go to counseling or whatever, and then you realize, actually, no, this is something you wanted. But I, I think that, kids growing up in a relationship that's unhappy, that isn't.

00:59:39:16 – 00:59:51:16
Yeah. Nourished is a difficult one as well, because it sounds like you get on fine. It's just that the falling out of love with each other and the passion isn't there, but.

00:59:51:18 – 01:00:20:01
If you're right that she. You feel like she feels the same despite the fact that she would fight for it, perhaps because of her upbringing or. Or maybe she's just more inclined that way. But she if you if you're right, then it probably would be more amicable on an amicable split up. Like what I would say about what when I was growing up, my mum and my dad, despite my dad not wanting them to break up, wanted to stay with my mum.

01:00:20:03 – 01:01:00:04
Yeah, they always maintained an amicable relationship and were always they never, ever fought with me around. I never saw them ever have a crossword. And I'm sure there were many crosswords, right. But I never witnessed it and I was oblivious to it. And so I didn't have to grow up with that anxious anxiety of knowing that they, they were unhappy with each other, even if they, they were, and it was only as I got older and was able to intellectualize the situation, I realized that, of course, my dad was hurt and still probably has hurt to this day that she left him.

01:01:00:04 – 01:01:22:21
Yeah, even if they've moved on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But, but you can't stay in a relationship if it's just coming from one side. Both partners need to be invested in it, and it doesn't matter how hurt my dad is, it would never have been right for my mum to stay. And she did the right thing. That's why I.

01:01:23:00 – 01:01:46:08
Yeah. So you have to do the right thing as well for you, but also understand the amount of work it's going to take to ensure that your kids, are not impacted too badly by it. Yeah, good sound advice, but as two kids from divorced parents. Right. I think generally, you know, you do get to a stage where you just understand things.

01:01:46:10 – 01:02:15:15
Obviously, having this conversation, the exact same conversation the other day with my mum, my sister, my missus, and kind of like being from a divorced family and the family dynamic changing. And then, you know what? My family dynamic is and my relationship with my children and my misses and stuff. It's not like it's affected me. That I, I don't know, it's led me down a, you know, a path of destruction or anything like that.

01:02:15:15 – 01:02:36:00
I'm still, you know, very secure in my relationship. And, you know, there's a lot of love with my children and stuff. So it's not to say that if you do split the family up, that I don't know if things will change is the wrong word. Split in the family is split. It's split. The split in the family up is like it's a pejorative, isn't it?

01:02:36:00 – 01:02:55:19
It's like it's loaded. Yeah. Yes, it's. Yes. You're you're separating for your own mental health, for your own, for the for the betterment really, of everybody. If you're not ultimately happy, I would say to try and do some work and talk. Definitely talk to her about it. There's a lot of assumptions by the sounds of it, isn't it?

01:02:55:21 – 01:03:21:06
Let's see. You know how she feels taught to just say, I'm not. I love you, but I'm not feeling. I don't know what the right advice. Maybe get some advice from a counselor or marriage counselor before doing anything drastic. I don't know. So number one, first of all, get bro. See it bros. Yeah, not exactly to speak to, three marriage counseling.

01:03:21:07 – 01:03:39:18
You don't have to. And marriage counseling doesn't have to be two people. You can just on your own seek one out, and they'll give you advice and then maybe bring her in afterwards. Yeah, but key is the key here is number one. Really? Yeah yeah yeah. Get get get a bro. Get a good one. Really good. It's pretty good as possible as fast.

01:03:39:18 – 01:04:10:15
Yeah yeah. Right. Look at it. Go to something better. You know. Wow. Something ugly. You know? I'm not proud, but I'm a survivor. Years ago, my now wife and I were in the. Made it a pointless argument in human. In human history. I don't even remember what it was about. I had the emotional way of deciding where to order a pizza from.

01:04:10:17 – 01:04:33:02
She storms upstairs, runs a bath because apparently she's a Victorian woman who needs to retreat to the waters after a minor inconvenience. So now I'm downstairs alone, doing that thing where you reply the argument in your head like, yeah, that's what I should have gone for. I should have gone for the fro. That would have ruined, I'm so smart.

01:04:33:07 – 01:05:06:06
20 minutes later and that's when my stomach was like, oh, cool, you're relaxed. Let's end this man's whole world. No warning, no buildup, just Defcon one in my lower intestine. So I think. All right, I'll just go upstairs and use the toilet. Then I remember my wife is up there naked in a bath, fuming at me. There is no scenario where I kick that door open and go, sorry, babe.

01:05:06:06 – 01:05:40:14
The demon inside me is scheduled right now. That's how people disappear. So I look around the kitchen and we lock eyes and me and my two and I lock eyes with a Tesco carrier. But now listen, I'm not proud, but I'm a survivor. I squat down in my own kitchen like an emotionally broken pigeon. And commit a crime that Scotland Yard will never know about afterwards until CSI mode sprays, wipes, more sprays, candlelit window cracked open like I'm going to.

01:05:40:18 – 01:06:10:10
I'm trying to exercise a Victorian child. 15 minutes later, she walks downstairs, stopped dead in her tracks and goes, what is that smell? And without hesitation, with the confidence of a man who's just ruined retail plastic forever, I say the dog keeps farting. Probably. Probably from those cheap treats you keep buying. She's mad, the dog's confused. And I'm walking round with a secret darker than interstellar space.

01:06:10:12 – 01:06:32:21
And at that moment, that is something only I know. Brilliant. Shitting in a carrier bag in your kitchen is. I mean, see what you've got. A you've got to go. And that is, I mean, I can't touch wood. I very rarely been in a situation where I've absolutely have to go and it's coming out and there's nothing I can do.

01:06:32:22 – 01:06:56:24
I don't think I've ever been in that situation. It's insane. You say that because I literally have that sensation every 3 to 4. It's like it is like I got a point where I'm not like, I'm literally just going to the toilet and my, my, like, the waistline from my boxer shorts have just slid down my bum and I can feel the poo coming out already.

01:06:57:05 – 01:07:19:06
It's like I'm not even sitting down and it's like already just running to that toilet wall. But what is it from the point where you feel like you need to go to the point where it comes out your ass? How soon? Sometimes if they wait around because I think I'll deal with that later. And then it's not. I say like in the biggest emergency is how quick is that fed into needing to pay?

01:07:19:08 – 01:07:39:13
An emergency? Is it like there have been times when pavement. I'm just going to have to do it now so they. No, no. But, Ricky, listen to what I'm saying. Right. Imagine you're sitting here and you feel the the feeling in the pit of your stomach from that first feeling. But for me, it might be like 45 minutes.

01:07:39:13 – 01:07:58:11
An hour, right? But I might not. I need a pump. But yeah, I don't need, need one. Yeah, but you it like I'll feel like I feel like a need one. And then how, how much time do you have. Probably like 5 to 7 minutes. Right. So you need to get up. So if you're out you're in trouble.

01:07:58:14 – 01:08:19:23
Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah for sure. You get a special key for people like you. Yeah. I mean right. Okay. Yeah. I need to get one of these. You have to go to the doctor. You can't just pick one up. No. And, and also you can get a pass. We can go to a pub, any pub or any place, and I don't need to use your toilet because of the, you know that.

01:08:20:02 – 01:08:36:24
Now, that would be amazing because there have been loads of times you try and go in there and you're like, I just need to get a Coke just to use your toilet. Sometimes you just run, just do it because you got a day. What? A man's got a day, right? That's that's been the end of the Christmas episode.

01:08:37:01 – 01:08:59:16
There you go. I hope you've enjoyed it. We hope you have a very Merry Christmas. And whatever you plan on doing when we celebrate it or not, we hope you have a lovely day. And, next week we're going to be talking about New Year's resolutions. Send yours in lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. And until then we will see you whenever.

01:08:59:17 – 01:09:00:15
Merry Christmas everyone.

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Well, Christmas is over. Are you happy that it's over or you. What's that like? Like Christmas in that? Yeah. You dirty little pig.

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I forgot to eat my sausage roll. Athena. Well, I literally, before we recorded, I was going to say, you know, get yourself a little cheeky sausage roll. The vegan sausage rolls of shit. Yeah. Absolutely. Shit. I tried one. This is a Greggs sausage roll, by the way. And flavor's got a vegan one. To remember all that kerfuffle.

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Piers Morgan, and he was saying about vegan sausage rolls, and he was going on on fucking one of his crusades again about why are we doing vegan sausage rolls? And I think there was an advert as well from Greggs, where there was Mary, and then in the basket was a vegan sausage roll, and he was just going on about that.

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I'll try one. I've got to try one. Yeah. He's right. He helped, drive vegan sausages out through the roof properly. Yeah, I don't yeah, we always found that bit a bit odd. Like, I know, I know, Piers Morgan is odious and obnoxious. Yeah. More or less. I think he actually gets things pretty right. More or less.

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And then there's some things he just gets wrong on. The Meghan Markle stuff is just odd. Weird. Yeah. Yeah. Are you fucking mental? Why are you infatuated with this girl as half your age? Like, who cares if she's your mate or you've talked to her or not? Who cares about this? Like these comments on tabloid journalism as well.

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Again, like what? I don't I don't give a shit about really. I think it's stupid. Like this morning stuff is stupid politically. Generally. I think he's all right. I know that's going to be kind of difficult for some people to hear, but because I just don't like him. But if you listen to what he actually says and he's I think he's pretty down the middle on most things.

00:02:03:16 – 00:02:20:16
But yeah, he's, decision making on some things like vegan sausage rolls and the Meghan Markle stuff is so odd. I still would still to this day, like, if she doesn't want to see your dad, it's none of your business. Just shut up. Why are you so passionate about this? Why are you walking off stage? You look weird.

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You're like an old creep. He's like that? Yeah. He's not a proper woman. Scorned about their. It's like they were. They were mates. And now she's, like, distanced herself and he's like, well, if you if you're going to be like that, then I'm going to be like this. As a 58 year old man, you should not be mates with like a late 20s woman in my opinion.

00:02:42:11 – 00:03:00:17
No, actually, no. It's not. It's weird if there's that much age gap and you're hanging around and all friends, I think that's a bit odd. You. Yeah. It's it's I'm like I dunno, it's just that there's, there's times in your life where you're knocking about with people and then you kind of grow in different directions and things happen.

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I know that like that's, that's fine. But then holding on to this relationship that you had, that was a glimmer in time. But it's like, yeah, we're still best mates. And with and then it just kind of went the other way. And then how aggressive he went on every single news story anywhere that would have him, that would listen to his opinion on that.

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He was there driving home the dagger. I was like, this is fucking mental. Yeah, yeah. I think he gets grouped in with like, what's he's the men or women, the stop the boats swimming gunshot. What? Kate Hopkins. Yeah, he he just grouped him with her like they're the same. They're not the same. No. Oh, God. No, she is ten times worse.

00:03:44:00 – 00:04:08:09
Yeah. She's horrid. How is your, Christmas father? I it was all right. Yeah. Okay. It was, No, no. It's lovely. I mean, it was it was. I'm grateful to have everything I had, you know, in terms of time I spent with people, I think we only we only were my dads for about six, seven hours. And it was just so many people, they weren't relaxing.

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Really? Yeah. It was. It was busy, if anything. Oh, okay. My preference is chilling out on the on the sofa. Yeah. Some beer, watching television and dinner comes. Eat that. And then for the kind of. That's my preference. But this year is. Yeah, we get to drive and but yeah, very grateful to to Yeah. Did you, have to get, did you have to get involved with anything not serving or clearing dishes away or anything like that.

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Were you. Yeah. I didn't do any cooking. Help. Clear. Yeah. Little bit serving took like an I took two minutes, so it wasn't really a job, but, no, it was just pretty standard as always. Really. I forget how stressful Christmas is. What part of it, so. Oh, like. Oh, December. It's like Christmas just coming in. Looking forward to it.

00:05:03:13 – 00:05:21:22
Christmas dinner. And, you know, being we have family and it's that one day to switch off from everything the world not talk to anyone. Fucking brilliant. But then leading up to it. Right. I said about this, the stress of secrets and, people badgering me that I have an update on my list, and then I've not bought my Secret Santa.

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And then I need to buy my kids presents, and I need to buy my missus present. Oh, fuck. I forgot about my dad. And is it can arrive in time, and then you kind of get everything, and you've got to wrap it, and you've got to wrap it in secrecy, and you've got to wait to different times and all of that.

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Lots. And then amidst all of that, the Christmas shopping, the food shop. Have I got enough stuff? Do I get more stuff? This year? I wanted to go a bit more reserved because we're not having Christmas Day here and it's just grazing stuff. A Boxing Day. But then mum was like, oh you haven't, we haven't bought this. I'm like, no, no, no, remember we're going down.

00:06:00:21 – 00:06:17:17
So I and I was fine. And then I kept hearing, yeah, we haven't got any of that. We had to go to the shops again. Then I thought, have a Christmas Eve. I was like, I fucking need this. Like a hole in the I dunno, what did you do, just not buy stuff that you usually have for Christmas.

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Yeah. Well yeah. They agreed that what wasn't going to be bought or did you agree there would be a scaling back. And I agreed to be a scaling back. You can't go through the list exhaustively. You can't just sit there and go through. That was always happiness. Yes or no? Yeah. It was always going to happen. Yeah. So, we went out on New Year's Christmas Eve to because we likewise just thought we haven't.

00:06:40:03 – 00:07:10:14
It doesn't feel like we've done enough. Yeah. £650 disappeared. It just like was. I can't believe where this is. Where's it all going? Well, it's it was insane. Like, so we woke up. We woke up four hours later or 650 with them. And I really can't tell you what we bought. Yeah. Exactly. Same. And then like, on Christmas Day, obviously, lovely kids opening their presents, seeing their little silly faces, happy with everything.

00:07:10:14 – 00:07:42:01
Mrs. happy, everyone's happy. And I'm getting ready to go to my mum's. And before that is where we're running. Like, always running like, I'm Mrs. my mum say we're running late. I had put my hand up and I said I did the Yorkies. So I did like 20 Yorkies for the day and jumped in the shower, came down from the shower as I was coming down the stairs, my oldest guy that and I was like, yeah, there's water dripping from the ceiling into the kitchen.

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So for fuck's sake. Oh fuck. You know, Mary Fucking Christmas. And then, I just I couldn't think about our shower by shower again, so I just got a pan, put it under where it was dripping as that. I'll fucking deal with you later. Get everyone in the car, drive to my mum's, and once you get to it, once I got to my mum's, all of the kind of the lead up of buying presents and Christmas shopping and wrapping presents and all of that stuff, I just had just gone and round my mum's.

00:08:16:01 – 00:08:43:00
It was my sister, my two nephews, my mum and me and my girl. So it's pretty quiet. And like you were saying, it was just kind of I was sitting around for most of it, food coming in, eating it, food going out and then helping out with, you know, dishes and stuff like that. But it was well, well chilled and we just had planned we doing a lot of games as well.

00:08:43:02 – 00:09:01:08
Getting games. I don't know if you've seen it on TikTok. You know, there's one of those a quick reaction games with it drops and they. Yeah the drop in. Yeah. So I did a game of that. There was another one. Imposter. Now this was a fucking quality game. Never played in my life. And it's done via an app.

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It's like a free app. You've got like, I that nice, let's say eight players and seven people get the same word. An imposter doesn't get a word all. And then, and then you have to say one word that's relative to the word that everyone's been given. But the imposter doesn't know the word, so they have to try and fool you that they know the word and pick up on it.

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So for maths, this is, it was hilarious with our family, but the word was kebab. Someone said lettuce. Someone said onion. My sister was the imposter and she just said hot. And we said, oh yeah, food's hot. Go to my Mrs. who knew the word kebab? She went cold and everyone was like, okay, she's definitely the imposter.

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You can't have a kebab code. And then it went round again. No, I said chili sauce went round. My sister said something that's relative to a kebab. And then it got to my Mrs.. She went curry. Oh, is that relative? She knew the fucking word, you idiot. Piece of myself. So there was quite a lot of that.

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Good. And then, as a city as well, that, my mum's partner, he's, quite into his health. Health and fitness. He's got a little plunge pool. And in October they had a sauna put in, so Christmas Day, your mom bought a ripped. Yeah, well, well, he's not ripped, but he's he's a fit guy. Good fit guy.

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Yeah, right. He runs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Stamina. Yeah, yeah. He's a landscape gardener as well. Oh my God. Yeah yeah. So he does. And I pounds away for hours. Hours. Yeah. Mum's just looking at what I need to go in the sauna. Hurry up. At a lovely sauna on Christmas Day as well. It's fucking beautiful. You know, I've not had a Christmas where I have enjoyed it so much.

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It was not perfect, really. So it's lovely. Should we go on a bit? Yeah, let's do it.

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Oh, just, just. You got a tissue for a tissue? You're a bit sad, cause I will give you a aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let not stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to be like your savior. To get nice and warm between Vicky, your lamb. Hello and welcome to lads.

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Anonymous is episode 129. I'm Ricky, he's flat two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas, confessions and our feature something 90, you know, and everything. Rene remains anonymous. Always I sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's your Boxing Day, by the way? We just sit at home. Nah, my mum was. My mum was over, with her husband and my stepmom.

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Kindly invite them to have Christmas because they'll be on their own otherwise. How how was how was the, It was absolutely fine. But, like, I just, it can be it can be quite stressful. So, I found a lot of it quite stressful rather than relaxing. Anyway, so we went over, it we they came over on Christmas, Boxing Day.

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I said, look, there's a pub near me. Maybe, but in the new gaff. And we just had a we had a little Boxing Day drink, which was all right, but they, they, they've got a Fiat 500, my mum, which I don't know, I know they're tiny. Yeah, yeah. You know the Dow terrier which is like a massive dog fuck which is lovely dog but huge.

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So just to have him in the back with on his own is too. It's already not enough space. Yeah, we except this for adults for over seven years in the Fiat 500 driving over it and they don't quite know the way to get here. So, the stress like, I opened the door and everyone was just like, fucking stressed.

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And I was up. Brilliant. Like, what I would really like now is for you to get back in that car and drive away. But we went went to the local pub, fucking rams. You know, they saying like, pubs are dying if you're in the right spot and with the right in the right environment and you make the right kind of pub mate.

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It was Christmas Eve was, was I forgot to say this because I didn't go in, but I drove past it, walked past it. I was walking dog. It was rammed. When I say rammed is the glasses were steamed up. It was. There was so many. But it was like the clothing you might see on a Friday night in the city after having stuff.

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So yeah, packed everyone singing Christmas carols and songs and drinking mulled wine. It was like one of the most perfect Christmas, Christmas in the country pub, and everyone in there was good local folk. Right? Okay. No outsiders. If it was those good, like, wealthy folk. No. Yeah. No, I mean, the only way you can get there is you walk.

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So they must have been from everyone in Mark 11. Where I work or live must, must have been in that pub. But we had like a little open. We, we just said anyone can come in who hasn't seen the house can come round and bit of a drink and stuff. So we didn't go to the pub but that was lovely and went and box.

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They rammed again, not, it's not as busy. And so we just sat in a pub for about a couple of hours and I had a couple of pints with the in-laws, not the in-laws, the stepparents and the parents and Sounds lovely. Yeah. Then I came back. We hadn't any food left over from the, Christmas dinner, obviously.

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Obviously. So we just, ordered a kebab in and, watched the latest film. What the fuck was the film? Oh, I'll tell you what we did. Do it. We watched Hunger Games latest film, which was shit. And, we opened me in to Mrs.. And spent any time really the other thing you don't at Christmas you don't spend time your partners.

00:15:32:22 – 00:15:54:23
You spend time with everybody. So, yeah, we just, we sat down together on the sofa and we opened a bottle of wine that my missus bought me when she went in the Hindu, too. But they took her to Bordeaux and she bought me a, bottle of, red wine. Yeah. Which at the time was a two for two, 2014, which is when we met.

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And she bought that in 2020, something like that. 2021. And we looked online and it was worth three, £280. Now. Oh, shit. So we drank a 280 pounds. It wasn't she didn't buy it for that. She got it for about €50. Yeah, yeah. But this particular year was, really. And it was sensational. I mean, I wouldn't want to make quid on it, but yeah, it was, it was probably the best bottle of wine, a glass of wine I've ever had in my life.

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Yeah. Mate, that sounds lovely. That was nice. Yeah. Oh, mate, that's fucking my dream. My dream right there. Maya. Yeah. Boxing day. I just spent a sat watching movie after movie with the kids, building Lego. It's fucking great, man. Absolutely glad that, I didn't have to go anywhere or do anything. And I did do a bit of trolling on on, Christmas Eve.

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What did you do? Just tweeted, if you're not wearing jeans right now, you're not a real man by 11:30 on Christmas Eve. Anyone who responded, I just wanted, you know, man. You know what, man? May I just, ask what they actually, I did see the picture is, was like, he is not comfortable. He's not. Well, I'm no optimum.

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Come to bed. Know I'm in joggers at the moment and I'm just that fucking. This is the best ever. Always talks about it. So. Yeah. Again, I mentioned before we get into this, something I need, you know, the is an anonymous submission form. So if you go to any of our social media and you click on the link, you see at the top something only you know and you can submit your stories anonymously.

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We don't know. We don't require any email, any location, anything. So we would never know who sent it. And so if you've got anything that is hiding in your closet, send it in. We'll never know. We'll read it out. So do you know, you can probably guess what the topic is today on a, I remember you said New Year's Eve, though, New Year's resolutions.

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That's right. New Year's resolutions are. Listen to our pod. Last year that we did 2000. What is 2024 with it? Yeah. 2024. And what do we say? So yours was, you spoke about dry January, but you said dry January isn't really isn't going to work for you because it was right. Okay. If I've got dry January, I can hold off drinking booze until the 31st of January.

00:18:36:19 – 00:18:57:22
And then on the 1st of February, I'll just fucking neck eight points. Yeah. So that's that. Does that really help me? Does that help my behavior in my relationship? And I know it's a reset, but I kind of feel like I need something bigger. So that was one of yours? Yeah. You also mentioned your, blood pressure and feeling fatigued.

00:18:57:24 – 00:19:24:03
That you needed to address that in 2025. Yep. Because of your drinking or non drinking that you weren't, kind of you weren't compelled to smoke cigarets, so you were over cigarets. Don't need them. Don't want that. Yeah. About that. When did we do this 2024. No I know, but when I might be 2025. Actually, January this year.

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I hadn't stopped by then. If it went in 2024, I stopped drinking on, on Boxing Day, Boxing Day last year. Right. Okay. So we we recorded this. It was after. Yeah. Right. Well, so yeah, I mean, yeah, at the time, so what the context of that was the idea. Yeah. The blood pressure. Yeah. The don't we talk about this last week?

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I'm pretty sure we did. Somewhere we talked about it. Did we? Well, just at the I had, I had an operation checked, and let's have my, Yeah. That's right. Yeah. We talk about. Yeah. Yeah, we. Yeah, yeah. So, so that's that that's what that was about. I think, and I mean, I lasted until 21st April, which was good, which returned everything to normal.

00:20:15:18 – 00:20:39:21
That's good. That's what you need to do. Yeah. Take. Yeah, yeah, it did it right there. Right. In hindsight, I wish I hadn't started again. Right. Just because if I had just carried on, carried on, that would have been better. But, I did, so I don't know what you and my were. Us. Give up smoking. Oh, that.

00:20:39:23 – 00:21:02:13
So, so, it was, it was to give up smoking. But in September, I'd gone on a wild night out, with the gooners. And I felt so fucking deadly. The next few days, I didn't go near a cigaret around it up. And then after that, I was just like, I'm fucking. That's it. I'm done. Fully done. So from that September to December, I wasn't smoking.

00:21:02:14 – 00:21:27:11
But anyway. But I wanted to continue that for 2025, not for it just to be a four month thing, but to go through 2025. Not smoke any back, Not get back into that, and stop vaping as well. Not add a cigaret. Take that. Oh, do you know what I'd add? One at Oasis and one somewhere else.

00:21:27:11 – 00:21:55:11
I can't remember, but that's it. Like two, maybe three cigarets in 2025. Done. Tobacco. You're out of here vaping lasted until April, and now it's in my mouth, like, pacifier. I know it's fucking you. Yeah, yeah, I I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We talk about vapor cock the dick, the dick. The dick. Yeah. It's hard in it because.

00:21:55:11 – 00:22:15:18
Yeah, yeah. So I've, I when I'm not smoke, when I'm not drunk, I don't feel the desire to smoke. I talked about this as well. But smoke or vape or anything. Yeah. Yeah. Only you know what I say. Vaping as well. You don't feel the desire to know. I mean, I might do, I might have one or. I don't think about it, really.

00:22:15:18 – 00:22:33:15
I don't I, I mean, I've been drinking so it doesn't really matter anymore, but. Yeah. So that's that's no good. Don't fags is good. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm pleased with that because that's one of the big ones that I was like, I'm definitely going to go back and see Rollies man. There is you know, I, I love the Raleigh.

00:22:33:15 – 00:22:57:21
I loved everything about it. Just, the car, obviously, you know, smoking was, I enjoyed it, but it's the whole rolling of the the roll up that I enjoyed as well. Everything around it was that rich. Yeah. Ritual. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah, it it. Oh, my. Yeah, that was my. I'm, I'm, I'm nearly qualified for like grade A I'll tell you I've spoken about this as well.

00:22:57:21 – 00:23:30:03
But yeah it's it really. Yeah. Because it's proper but from the, from from government garden mate. This is insane. Yeah man I'm going to get into weed. I mean, so have you been is there been any, like, back and forth with the with the doctors, the hospital and now we do you go to your doctors and you say, I've got this for me is peripheral neuropathy really they can't prove whether you got it or not.

00:23:30:09 – 00:23:51:05
So you just go to the hospital because the doctors and go, I've got peripheral nerve. The they have to try to course as a treatment if never the work which they won't work because. Because there's no cure for it. You didn't get you wait. Shit, boy. Yeah, you have to pay for it. That's free. Yeah, yeah. I'm not paying for weed, but that it's not cheaper than the street either.

00:23:51:07 – 00:24:24:07
You could grow your own and then just say it's personal use. Because my feet. This is the thing. You can't do that. That's. This is the mad thing about all of this is the government's got grow houses everywhere. But not. You're not mad. Yeah. That's mad that they've got the. Where are they. Do you know what right. Every time I walk down the canal and this might be canal people and I might be slanging them, but that smell of weed down the canal, I don't know if it's people popping out of their houses and having a quick spliff, but there is a boat every time I walk past it.

00:24:24:07 – 00:24:46:19
The pungent smell, it's like someone is smoking a spliff there and then. And I'm wondering, all people have got, do they have like abandoned boarded up canal boats? But inside the canal boat they growing weed? Yeah, possibly. There was a house in where I lived in university, and it was clear as day that it was a weed house.

00:24:46:21 – 00:24:51:16
It stunk, but it absolutely reeks.

00:24:51:18 – 00:25:21:07
Yeah. So, we'll see how that goes. Really. But yeah, that's that's mad. Well, kind of because of the way it works, it sort of impacts your central nervous system, which is what my issues with said, the nerve endings on fire will actually damage the ovens and the damage so that apparently weed nullifies it or throws it. I'm I imagine that you do get this grade-A weed and, and I make a bong, right?

00:25:21:09 – 00:25:39:18
And you start doing it and it starts working, but you're just like, stoned all the time. But this is the problem is I can't, it's not like I'm not going to, I'm never going to be painless, pain free rather because I can't do this and work life. You know what I'm like when I'm stoned. The hearts can't function.

00:25:39:20 – 00:25:56:21
So maybe the more weed you do, the less pain you feel. So you just have to get super high all the time, every night. That's the thing. But then the kids need lifts places and I'm like, like, yeah, you got well, I mean like, when it's like proper evening, evening. You should be able to. You'll be right.

00:25:56:23 – 00:26:21:18
Yeah. But that means you spend 90% of your day with my feet on fire. So. And then, then I'll go to sleep. Anyway, it'll be fun. It could be fun. Don't just have it for recreational use. The other thing that I said that I would do in 2025, go to bed at a reasonable time. No. I have probably done that maybe three times.

00:26:21:18 – 00:26:40:23
Not even that. I reckon presents are free. 30 on Christmas Eve the other day. Yeah. Well, the day before Christmas Eve. Oh, I know it would have been Christmas Eve. 330 in the morning. And then on Christmas Eve, we were up again until, like two in the morning. What time for Christmas Day? Like half nine, I think.

00:26:41:00 – 00:27:08:12
Late one. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I said nine, half nine. Yeah yeah yeah. And then we went down and done everything. So bedtime I've not really done that. Another one of mine I wanted to read more. I wanted to read 30 minutes before going to bed. When I was getting to bed, an early time. I have not cracked the spine of a single book in 2025.

00:27:08:14 – 00:27:19:24
No, no. Not read. So I've not, not done that. I read The Boy, the horse, The mole in the Fox on Christmas Day.

00:27:20:01 – 00:27:46:00
You know. Right. Yeah. Why? Why am does that, What's the dude? Yeah. Where's the data? He does the artwork for it. Oh. Oh, he wrote it. The wrote the guy, right? It was Charlie Maxey. My case. I said yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. I don't know if he did the artwork as well.

00:27:46:02 – 00:28:04:08
It might be in my head. He's he's quality that dude. I've had him on quite a few podcasts. He's got a, got very good outlook on life and a lovely bloke. Well, you can, you can tell that because of the, you know, the message in, in the book is all about self-help and changing your viewpoint on the world.

00:28:04:10 – 00:28:27:20
Yeah. Very. Yeah, yeah, it's quite emotional read, actually. It's I mean, you can read it in half an hour. It's like it's a, it's a graphic novel. Really. Right to know, dude, know the story about. He was doing a book signing in I think 20, 20 or 21 after this came out. And, and obviously it's massively popular.

00:28:27:20 – 00:28:50:20
I think it's the best selling book in the world, or certainly in Great Britain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been number one in like 200 countries. An assumption like that. Yeah. And he was doing a book signing, he, this guy, towards the end of the queue, this young man of about 22 appeared in front of him and he says, I don't have a book to sign.

00:28:50:20 – 00:29:15:24
It's just a while ago, I didn't want to be here anymore. And I read your book, and now I want to be here. I, I didn't do it because I read your book. And he said, the author said, if one person if I if, you know, I produce this and only one person wrote it and it was that young man, then it would have been worth, he'll.

00:29:16:01 – 00:29:39:15
So that's how powerful it can be. You need to look into yourself and look at some of the messaging and apply it. But as a as a piece of self-help, if that's even maybe to try a way of thinking about it. It's a it's a great piece of work, about 4 or 5 books he's done now, mate, that is, that's fucking, I could feel myself as you're saying that.

00:29:39:15 – 00:30:01:10
Like going up to him and saying, like, I've got enough time, but obviously reading your book helped me. I didn't want to be. Here's the ace. Yeah, it's Matt, I think, mate, I think Christmas is I don't know where it's fucking fucked with my, my emotions or whatever, but I was watching Nativity yesterday and that fucking started getting me what bit the film.

00:30:01:12 – 00:30:24:01
He's so good. So funny. Okay. It's just I've seen him all I there's three of them, I think the. Yeah, yeah, I honestly the first, the first one is so good in terms of Christmas movies that are quintessentially British but also classic like Love Actually, that kind of thing. This is. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say it's on this let on that level of fucking 100%.

00:30:24:05 – 00:30:50:02
That is so funny. It's such a good and moving. Yeah, yeah. There was a couple a couple of bits in there. Asked us to. Oh, God. God. I looked over at my messages and I saw like, apple tear rolled down their cheek and I was like, I can't, I can't go not not to nativity cheesy. You, she she saw me kind of like, cause that normally I just, I lean forward a little bit just so that if I lean back, she bend to get that side angle.

00:30:50:02 – 00:31:13:09
So just like, lean forward a bit. I was like, bank guy wreck. Not now. Yeah. If she, So she doesn't mind. See any crazy now? I could make fun of you. No, no, no, not at all. Not till I fucking went during, she bought me tickets to see, Tame Impala. Oh, yeah, for my boat for my birthday.

00:31:13:11 – 00:31:37:24
And, I was trying to thank her for it, and I got, like, half I free, and I was just like, I need to stop, and I just. I just sat there for, like, 45 seconds before I could say for fucking move. It probably just froze. Fucking. So embarrassing. I need to stop. Silly. Right. So yeah.

00:31:38:01 – 00:31:59:14
Yeah. But, Yeah. Can't fucking wait for that. And then the last two that I had was, I don't know if you remember this height watching I described to you that I had become not obsessed, but, I enjoyed hate watching. So is watching people social media that maybe it was an influencer, or maybe it was a person that I knew.

00:31:59:14 – 00:32:27:18
Or maybe it was, I don't know, an aspiring fucking mechanic or whatever it is to stop it because I watched it, because I didn't like them and I hated them and stuff. So everyone that I had that was on my Instagram unfollowed them after that podcast, not seeing any of their content since actually there is one person because, they are a social media kind of thought leader.

00:32:27:20 – 00:32:57:20
Because I work in social media, they're always going to be in and around the timeline. It was a it was a lady called. She worked with Steven Barnett. They got named Grace Andrews, but she's just this posh, that, just, you know, when people want you up, they just want you up. And I was just like, I can't, but I have to watch it because she's, like, on the forefront of social media trends and all that.

00:32:57:20 – 00:33:30:16
But she I just, you know, just I'd rather not be on the forefront of it if I have to listen to this. So I'll stop doing that, which is great. And then, being a better follower, more listening, more understanding, just being there for my kids. Understanding about the frustrations, whether it be with school or whether it's kind of like because because I used to get really frustrated that if one of my daughters was not, what's the word?

00:33:30:16 – 00:33:54:01
I'm looking for? You know, like if we, being repetitive over something like, I don't know, a maths equation and I've gone through over and over and over again and still not like landing, and then you just end up getting a bit, you know, talk with them and just thought frustrated anyway. Yeah. But realizing that people learn in different ways and all of that stuff.

00:33:54:01 – 00:34:21:14
But being a better father, I have most definitely. I feel like I've improved. I'm not, you know, the best father, but definitely improved. But, I'm suffering a new thing five. Which is really I'm finding it quite difficult to not overcome. That's not the right word. I'm just finding it difficult. So, as you know, my daughters, young women, everybody that.

00:34:21:14 – 00:34:53:22
Well, there's three women in this household ministry at different times. And I'm finding it hard to be there for them, not be there for them. But it's it's like a rollercoaster of emotions because they're young women going through school and all the other kind of stuff that they're worried about. And then they are on their period, and it's just trying to navigate through all of that and make sure they, comfortable and that they've got everything that they need.

00:34:53:23 – 00:35:15:14
Does that make sense? It's like, what what are you supposed to do there? I don't know what I mean. That that's the thing. I mean. Well, no, it's it's hot water bottles for stomach aches. Paracetamol. Ibuprofen for pain. Well, I'm like, I'll get a favorite shot. Yeah, but you don't know that, did you? I didn't know that.

00:35:15:16 – 00:35:33:18
Yeah. No, it's not, it's not, it's not the physical act that I don't know how to get chocolate from a fridge. It's not. Normally you're so caught up in work all your life, it's like, oh, I've got period pains. Take some paracetamol. Fuck off. That's the. Just get on with it. Well, it's kind of pacifically about the menstruation cycle.

00:35:33:18 – 00:35:54:21
You feel like you have to do more. Well, yeah, it's it's kind of just been a bit more understanding because there's three people and they're all kind of thinking up or one's coming off and then one's going on and then it's trying to understand the vibe of the house. When you wake up that morning, who's angry? Who is in, who's in pain, who isn't?

00:35:54:21 – 00:36:15:10
Who wants to kill me, who hates each other this morning? And it's that understanding what kind of pedals to push and what one's to kind of not. So that's been an interesting part of my, journey as being a father in 2025. I kind of think like, not nailed it, but I'm getting a better understanding of it.

00:36:15:10 – 00:36:37:13
But there are many kind of house households out there that wouldn't even speak to their, daughters or partners about that and know what they can do to, help them or to make things better for them. So, so I'm just kind of. Yeah. It's just that one of you is that you're new, new this year.

00:36:37:15 – 00:37:02:09
So. No, it wasn't, it was just that it was to be a better father last year. But towards the end of this year, I've kind of like it's been difficult because there has been a lot of hormones flying about. And I've been like hiding in my office because I don't really know what to do. I don't think you can do it, but you just, you, I don't think, what can you do?

00:37:02:11 – 00:37:24:16
It's like someone's got a cold. Like, what can you do? Give them a blanket, make sure they feel alright. But hiding in your office is fine. Like keep hiding what you might just let them go through it. They'll feel better in a couple of days. Like be like the father of like you say. Like if you can make them feel more comfortable, you can't change their hormones inside their brain or how they feel.

00:37:24:18 – 00:37:43:15
So you can't. But you can try to make them feel more, comfortable. They'll hate you trying to make them feel comfortable. You think? Yeah. Yeah, they'll they'll go numb. They might sometimes like it, but sometimes they go. They'll they'll pick your dick because they don't know what's going on. Yeah. That's true. They think I'm a dick anyway.

00:37:43:17 – 00:38:07:23
Anyway, do you have any. Are you, are you doing any New Year's resolutions? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Or just even. Not even, like, putting a name on it. Not like a New Year's resolution just to be like. Do you know what last year was a fucking clusterfuck because of my brain was constantly on moving home and all of that.

00:38:07:23 – 00:38:31:21
So maybe this year I can do a bit of self-improvement, self-reflection, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. I haven't really thought about it. Like Christmas came around really quickly. Like, sometimes you just don't have time to really think inwardly, which is fine as well. I spent the Christmas sentence suddenly here I was like, what the fuck?

00:38:31:21 – 00:38:51:21
Where does that come from? But this was the least Christmassy I've ever felt. Ever. Did I have that Christmas vibe at all? But it's because I couldn't concentrate. I was working up until a lot. Yeah, a lot going on. Look at home with the house and stuff I like. It was almost like the stress of that, that the last 3 or 4 months meant that you don't have time to have a normal life.

00:38:51:23 – 00:39:19:05
So now that we're moving out of that period, we're not out of that yet. I have a couple of months before we move out of it properly. And then you can start to sort of out there. Then it is time, I guess, to look at what it is that you want to do, but it kind of seems it seems almost like, weirdly like, pointless at the moment because there's so much, there's so much to still.

00:39:19:05 – 00:39:41:11
Yeah, yeah, to do. So I'm kind of looking, looking forward to a time where you think right now I can, Yeah, maybe think about other things, like, like last year was all about it being like these things were forced upon me, like, you know, this just quitting drinking and managing and trying to get fit because of the blood pressure.

00:39:41:11 – 00:40:00:05
All of that stuff was forced upon me, and you had to make it. The problem is, is the most difficult thing is, is making those decisions and choosing the right choices when things aren't forced upon you, it's almost more difficult. I didn't have a choice last year. Yeah, yeah. I needed my hernia sorted out. I couldn't have it with my hypertension.

00:40:00:05 – 00:40:22:19
So what? There's no choice here. This is what I have to do. Whereas, now it's almost like I don't have time. I'm not my priorities, not my me. The priorities are sorting the things out that needs to be sorted out while working full time. So yeah. So the answer in the short is I don't really have any.

00:40:22:21 – 00:40:56:13
Okay. But I want to have be in a situation next year where I think I can legitimately concentrate and have some, if I just having some next year, I'm feeling like it worthwhile, then, yeah. That's that that's my what needs resolution to be to be in control of stuff. Whereas I haven't been in control. I've been at the whim of other people's decisions and and, I don't mean I'm happy with decisions like, I don't know what color to paint the walls.

00:40:56:13 – 00:41:27:12
It's it was like, more like, expensive decisions that have massive ramifications on your quality of life. Once you get past that, eventually we will. And it is just a moment in time. Then you can kind of make you start thinking about these things. I guess. Anyway, so yeah, that would be it to take to get back in control and feeling comfortable with everything that's going on, feeling comfortable and a contentment.

00:41:27:14 – 00:42:17:08
That's what I strive for next year. Right? That's that's that's good. That that's. Yeah. Like when people do like New Year's resolutions and what you touched upon there, do you think people do need resolutions for themselves or for what people think they want them to do? Like if someone was like, oh, I'm going to quit, like vaping and I'm going to quit vaping because my kids want me to do it, not because I want to do it, or I feel like I need to do it or I, you know, I mean, yeah, yeah, I think, I think that most people's New Year's resolutions or changes they want to make in their life

00:42:17:08 – 00:42:46:00
come mainly from things they think they should do, because other people think they should do them. Yes. And generally those things are correct. Like if your kids want you to stop smoking, you might quit. Mainly because the kids want you too. But deep down you know you should as well. Yeah. So it's almost like your insecurities about all your decision making about things is, is exposed or exemplified by, you know, how other people close to you feel about it.

00:42:46:00 – 00:43:08:06
So absolutely. Yeah, I think, yeah, a combination of two things. I know I should go to the gym. I know I should quit smoking, and I know I should stop drinking so much. And I know that because if I don't, it'll impact the people around me. Yeah. And I'll live less long. And so, Yeah, it's all of those things, really, they come from.

00:43:08:06 – 00:43:38:04
They should generally come from really good space. So I would say my kind of a target for 2026, I think I've mentioned that on this part, give up vaping so that the, give myself to first the jam, knock it on the head. No more to I'll be like a bear with a sore head. I'll be joining the girls, stomping around the house and slamming doors and stuff like that.

00:43:38:06 – 00:44:05:02
That. So I'm only going to do kind of two. Stick to two. Because if you overload yourself with loads, you just never do it. And then the second one is obviously going to bed at, a reasonable hour. And I tried to do that last year. I got into a bit of a pattern, but this year I'm really noticing and looking at my Fitbit that I'm getting about five hours sleep a night, and it's just it's just nowhere near enough, for the 5.5 hours.

00:44:05:02 – 00:44:29:05
Yeah, but yeah. Average. Average a week. Yeah. But that's. You asleep. That's not you stirring. You're not set right. Yeah. It probably isn't as bad as you think. So what, you're telling me you in bed, falling asleep and then waking up. So I, in bed at, like, half 12 and then probably fall asleep at 12:45. Something like that.

00:44:29:07 – 00:44:55:07
Yeah. And then I woke up again every night. 6:15. All right. Yeah. So you literally can not enough sleep. Yeah. I mean that's that's my that's my routine. We can't keep talking about this week I know, but I mean I'm going to be in New Year's. Yeah. Yeah. There are people with different Akkadian rhythms. So you you there are people who enjoy being up later and spend I'm more comfortable and relaxed later.

00:44:55:09 – 00:45:15:22
But the world doesn't stop for people who prefer that, that my daughter said this the other day. To me, it really well me up because she puts us up to bed, like she's a she'll be 18 soon. So she, she's, she has to make her own decisions and and she has to learn through consequence. They're not it isn't going to be me telling her that this is going to make her learn.

00:45:15:24 – 00:45:35:05
It will be the consequences of her actions that will make her learn. From this point onwards, because they put her stop listening. Some they go, you don't know, I know. Yeah. And that's it. And that happened. That probably has already started to happen. Maybe with your kids. Right? Yeah. For sure. So she woke up, put herself to bed at a certain certain time.

00:45:35:07 – 00:45:54:23
She would get up. She, without fail, wakes up El Pop and gets herself ready every day, which is. That's insane. That's quality. No, 18 there an adult like they can go to war. They can vote. If they can't get themselves up and get themselves ready when they can go to war. That's not insane, Ricky. That is normal kids, a kids mind.

00:45:55:00 – 00:46:18:04
Not just that. That's that's the bare minimum. Eight. Eight. They're not kids. 18. Adults. 18. She's not 18 yet. I mean, they she will be in three months. I, I moved out of my home. I didn't come back till 33 when I was 18. Right. So I think getting up, and making yourself ready to do the bare minimum at 18.

00:46:18:04 – 00:46:38:15
Ricky. Right. Okay. Anyway, so she does that, she gets up if you see. And if she didn't, then there'd be a big, big problem because I don't know what time she's put herself to bed because I'm asleep by if I can get into bed by half nine, I'm buzzing. Half nine. Fucking. Oh, man, that's a dream I would love.

00:46:38:18 – 00:47:01:00
I would love to, I'm not saying I would go to sleep at that time, although sometimes I will. But I would love to be able to be in bed. Am I reading or on my phone by that point? Yeah. Anyway, the point is, it is she. She goes to bed much later. She gets up, she goes to school, she comes home, she crashes often.

00:47:01:00 – 00:47:31:18
She just goes to fall asleep on a bed. Shortly after getting home, I said to Claire, you can't. That's not. You can't do that. If it means you're not falling, you're not putting yourself to bed enough, you're not getting enough sleep and you're crashing. That isn't a maintainable lifestyle. And the reason why is if that's how you pattern your form in your the when you go into work or, whatever it is you're going to be doing next, the world doesn't stop at 3 p.m. when you want to crash.

00:47:31:20 – 00:47:50:19
Yeah. She goes, well, my Akkadian rhythm is different. And I'm like, it doesn't matter. The your boss won't give a shit about you, Katie and rhythm. I don't care. Yeah. You have to be in bed. You have to be up and you have to be at a function to a certain point in the day. Or eventually someone will go, you can't do this job for me or whatever it might be, and it's on.

00:47:50:19 – 00:48:12:21
I get it. It's not it's not easy decision making because you just awake, right? You don't want to go to sleep, but you have to and you don't have to. You don't have to be fast asleep to be recovering. But being up looking at your computer, playing PlayStation look scrolling tick tock is is it is it makes your brain.

00:48:12:21 – 00:48:40:01
What is it? It doesn't prepare for sleep reading about, but now no kids really read it. Well, the what? My kids, they seem to read. What about if she, that the crash is happening because she's, mentally exhausted from learning? No. That's nice. That's what it was. Spent six hours in the classroom. Means you're mentally exhausted when my kids come home from school.

00:48:40:03 – 00:48:57:23
Like they'll get in it for half four. Yeah, they'll just go. They'll go to bed. Don't lay down. They won't go to sleep. And they're just like, straight away bed scrolling, Tik Tok or whatever, you know, that's their time to distress. That's quite distressing and chilling out on your phone. Yeah. That's not passing out face down on a bed.

00:48:58:00 – 00:49:21:16
Not it's not. And if it's and if and it's not when you say eight to hour four that's being out of the house. They get they get dropped off and picked up from school. If they are falling asleep off this, that's the limit. 18 again, if your limit is being in a classroom for six hours and then you have to fall asleep and you are.

00:49:21:18 – 00:49:40:08
Well, what what what are you going to possibly do in the future? And then not and even even in six months even, I mean, sorry, even at sixth form, they're not they're not in class. They didn't school. They have to be in school now. Yeah. They like, you know, when we were kids at 16, you could just that was it.

00:49:40:08 – 00:49:58:24
You've just released into the world? Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah. If you want it to the sixth form, you you could. Well, you wanted to do A-levels. You could, but you have to now they have to stay in school to 18 or training to 18. It's one of the few things, I think, which you soon got right in. There's so much okay.

00:49:59:01 – 00:50:24:00
There's so much provision for them now. It's unbelievable. Like when when I was 16, it was like, even you get your GCSE, you can do A-levels or you can do it in guilds. But it was completely by my choice. So kids that really were desperate to just not do anything or work or one of those things, they would be allowed to do that and then and then even they would be successful.

00:50:24:00 – 00:50:40:21
They were through for it fall through the cracks and and they won't be successful, end up having to work in Tesco's for the rest of their lives or whatever it might be, even if they've got the motivation to do that. Now, regardless of where you are academically, there are services and courses in place to catch you. So.

00:50:41:02 – 00:51:07:23
Right. So if you didn't do well at GCSEs or academically, academically, it just wasn't. I like, you know, we both got experiences where where kids don't function in the way that someone who's academically smart does. Yeah. They've got vocational stuff, they've got bricklaying, they've got carpentry, they've got nursing, hair and beauty. Anything you can think of, you'll find something that interests you and it catches you for two years.

00:51:08:00 – 00:51:13:23
That is good. I wish so, I was always of the impression that,

00:51:14:00 – 00:51:36:08
It's, It's a shame that, like, at 16, that you can't go and go straight to work. All you want to do is earn money. You can do it. You can't do that. You have to spend one one day, one day in college. But you can get a if you can find an apprenticeship, you can get one. And that that you worked four days in the on site and then or wherever it might be.

00:51:36:10 – 00:51:59:12
And one day in college that I mean, yeah, I see, I see, I I see your point now. You can't you can't leave. You cannot leave education. You have to stay. There's no way I'm I'm not thinking about that. Like if I was back then, if I had to stay in school for another two years or do something I didn't want to do.

00:51:59:14 – 00:52:25:02
Yeah, there is no easy. Yeah, there it is. But you'd be asking media directly after something like that. I should have done that. Yeah. But I went to work working where I said no, and then I went back. So the lesson learned, the the last two things, actually just stop scrolling, phone scrolling the amount of times I just catch myself and I'm like, what am I doing now?

00:52:25:02 – 00:52:51:09
I've just wasted like 15, 20 minutes just looking at fucking stupid stuff on TikTok. And Instagram Reels. Need to cut that out. So those are my free things. Vaping only sleep at a reasonable time. And to stop scrolling now we are going to be going onto. And another thing I sent you over a voice note, email.

00:52:51:11 – 00:53:19:15
And that is on Christmas dinners and then something only you know is called Yahoo go like yeah the topic for next week is retirement and it's all you planning for retirement now. Do you have a pension and any investments. What are you most looking forward to in retirement? What are your aspirations for retirement? Do have any fears that you're going to have too much free time?

00:53:19:17 – 00:53:44:01
Will I be as horny as I am now in my retirement years? Will Flav still be wearing jeans when it comes to retirement and they'll be sitting around the house these? Oh yeah, it's really weird. And it's like when we were younger, our granddads, even though they're retired, just go around that and they're just wearing shirt ties, jumpers, trousers, shoes.

00:53:44:01 – 00:54:21:22
They're in the house doing nothing. Boy. What? They dressed really fucking mad. Yeah. You know, they did. They always sort of like smart. Sort of. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It's cultural thing. I think my, my thing with jeans is I'm just not a funny y. Okay. This week if you don't wear jeans at home in my opinion, do you think that by age or retirement, do you think that you're you'll be more of a man that wears shirts that, not jeans, denim shirts, denim shirt, jeans, jeans, socks.

00:54:21:24 – 00:54:45:16
Is that everyone wants to be comfortable all the time. That's a problem. Too soft. So I say there's nothing wrong being comfortable. Boy, me, I know, I know the reason. The problem is it's a it's an epidemic of not wanting to be in slightly, you know, not be as comfortable as possible, you know, any type of hardship. Oh Granddads it was about how they looked is about how they were presented.

00:54:45:18 – 00:55:05:08
Because they served in the military. They were taught about the principles of things. Our generation just wants to get out, but I'm putting on as fast as possible. Let me let me put on my, my fluffy pink boxer shorts because those are the most comfortable. The fake is that the preferred that, I love this new you have that you're old now.

00:55:05:10 – 00:55:18:24
This is beautiful. You're going to listen to. And another thing, Christmas dinners. Okay.

00:55:19:01 – 00:56:05:04
And another thing, if you're a grown up and another friend. Yeah. Christian. Great. I have the novel thing. Oh, yeah. I love learning everything. Oh. Oh, you're not like. This is a nearly immediate reaction to the discussion on proper Christmas dinners and the slagging off of American cuisine. You know, I'm sure this is going to, be less than anonymous, because I'm sure a lot of people will be able to figure out who's sending this in.

00:56:05:06 – 00:56:46:06
But, you see, I grew up my Christmas dinners with my family were shrimp, sometimes crab legs. So to me, a proper Christmas dinner involve shrimp, not a roast, not necessarily any other kind of meat. And then another thing potatoes are the most versatile food on the planet. You know, they can be served. However. Anyone pleases. Yeah. You know, if somebody wants to serve mash as a proper dinner, it's a proper side for proper dinner.

00:56:46:08 – 00:57:18:02
And another thing, I will not take any guff from anyone from a country who conquered half the world for spices, to not even use them in their own food. I don't get it. And one more thing. Enjoy your breakfast beans. I love this podcast and I don't know what I would do two days out of the week if I didn't have it.

00:57:18:04 – 00:57:23:17
Merry Christmas!

00:57:23:19 – 00:57:28:13
I mean.

00:57:28:15 – 00:57:49:21
I don't know what to say. I mean, shrimp, yeah. And I was like, that is the thing is as well, this, this gentleman says about, you know, dinners and he said it straight away, their dinner, not Christmas dinner, dinner with mashed being served dinner. That's exactly what we were saying. It is dinner. It's not Christmas dinner, though, is it?

00:57:49:23 – 00:58:12:11
I'm talking about Christmas dinner. You can't. You can't have mashed on the Christmas dinner. So I just I was googling American Christmas dinner, and there ain't got one. I ain't got one with these things. Seems I said of the classic components teams, is these Turkey and then glazed ham. But they also have beef tenderloin and prime rib.

00:58:12:13 – 00:58:31:04
According to Google's I right. Stuffing and dressing which is, which is fine. Good, good. Yeah. It was dressing it I don't know, sometimes sausage or oysters.

00:58:31:06 – 00:59:07:12
Potatoes. Oysters. So potatoes like potatoes, mashed potatoes with gravy is the most universal in the Christmas dinner. Sauces embellishes cranberry and gravy. Cranberry is fine. Vegetables, green beans. They Brussels sprouts. Good good. Corn and squash. You can have you can kind of corn on fucking Christmas dinner and a squash you can have. I guess you could make it if you're going to have mash, you could have squash and or carrot Swede.

00:59:07:14 – 00:59:33:15
Yeah. Oh that's it. That that's a squash. More like a Swede. Yeah. And then. No, don't worry about desserts as a matter. But, but there are regional or cultural influences. So it's southern collard greens with ham hocks, sweet potato pie, shrimp and grits. Oh my God. It just. There is no that's the problem in England. It's everyone has the same thing.

00:59:33:17 – 01:00:00:22
Everybody's having it right. Some people are talking, you know Yorkshires on there. Most people have the Yorkshire even though it's not traditional. Yeah. What's the other thing? Cauliflower cheese. My colleague's not so good. I've got a rabbit. So. Yeah, but I like. Other than that, everyone's having a that. As soon as you said shrimp, I'm like, yeah, there's no a single person in England that's eating shrimp on Christmas Day.

01:00:00:24 – 01:00:21:05
There might be prawn cocktail in the morning. Some people might have it or start, oh, you might have a prawn cocktail. You might do. I've seen that. But yeah, someone in the discord had had chicken wings. Christmas Day. Chicken wings? What? Chicken wings instead of turkey? Yeah, I think so. Do they just eat because they love chicken wings?

01:00:21:07 – 01:00:45:06
Maybe we can't do that. They, Yeah. The, And it's nonsense that we don't use spices. It's a it's a, like this, this this tick tock kind of social media. Everyone jumping on the bandwagon and beating the UK down saying, no, we don't have season. It is just such lies. It's nonsense. It's a but, you know, whatever.

01:00:45:07 – 01:01:12:13
I mean, I think we're quite comfortable, but as everyone else seems quite sensitive. Yeah, yeah. We, we know we've got, we use spices so just because we don't use Cajun spices on everything doesn't mean we don't add spices to stuff. Right? So the Christmas dinner, there's enough flavor in a Christmas dinner to when it's like the stuffing is is well-seasoned.

01:01:12:15 – 01:01:38:10
Yeah. You should be seasoning everything really like on on on like on a on our carrots. We had honey with, mustard seeds. Oh, yeah. Like when you crack or when you get that real punch in the mouth. Yeah, yeah. That's, What was I think. Yeah. This this gentleman needs to come over and spend Christmas in the UK.

01:01:38:11 – 01:02:00:21
Yeah. Why am I being so funny? I thought said last night that we get fucking long, that we get over, over baked beans. Baked beans on toast. Oh, oh, oh. All we ever did was eight fucking baked beans. We brush our teeth with baked beans. I can't fucking, I can't answer baked beans. But I wouldn't mind having baked beans on toast for it.

01:02:01:01 – 01:02:24:20
I think they're baked beans are slightly different. They come in like darker and they're they're like, really sweet. I don't know why you always see cowboys eating them out of cans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah, but they're baked beans on toast with, Marmite and cheddar cheese. Baked beans in a jacket. Potato. Oh, my. Yeah. Oh, my.

01:02:24:20 – 01:02:36:03
I saw a TikTok the other day sponsored by Heinz. And the guy's gone. What you want to do is bake being a jacket potato loaded with baked beans.

01:02:36:05 – 01:02:58:02
Yeah, but. And, yeah, we're not just, an end. Yeah, it just ended. That was that was it? That was it. Baked. Baked potato and beans. That's it. No, but I already finished. This is hindsight stuff. Yeah, maybe that's the that's not on it at that point. So. Blueberry smash. How's the batter in there? Dump load of cheese.

01:02:58:04 – 01:03:22:09
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I prefer, like, coleslaw and cheese. Rather. Well, what on your on your website? I have so much. I have potato as well. That has to be. They've got to be kind of the skin has to be cooked individually. Sorry. The skin has to have gone through a process. And what I mean is if I get jacket potato and the skin just looks like it's on the potato.

01:03:22:11 – 01:03:47:19
You know what I'm saying? Like the potatoes. So yeah, soft Jack is is not not that great shit I think. But if you, if you, if you, you pierce your jacket potato, you cover in oil and salt. So. Yeah. Yeah. And then you put it in the oven for about an hour and 15. Yeah. The trick is a 20 minute blast in the air fryer on 200.

01:03:47:20 – 01:04:16:03
Oh, nice. Oh, nice. Yep. And for me I get to a point where I've got quite a tough, crusty skin and then. Yeah. Okay. If I'm, if I can be bothered to burn my fingers, I'll scoop all the potato out and then I, and then I put butter and cheese into it, mix the, mix it up into a sort of mash, not not compressed, and put it back into the skin.

01:04:16:05 – 01:04:45:06
Fucking our HQ. Thank you. I'm. I'm used to it when I was a kid. That's, Oh, mate, that's a fucking rain jacket that is right there by jacket. Right. We are going to go in to something 98 and I. Wow. Something, you know. Highlights of the you mentioned Yahoo on the internet pot. I got mad at myself for not sending this in last week.

01:04:45:12 – 01:05:04:09
I thought about submitting it but never got around to it. I knew I had to write in after you said you also went on Yahoo! Love the pod. Your episode on the internet reminded me of something I've never told a single person in my life, and after years of suppressing it, I'm finally ready to traumatize strangers with it.

01:05:04:11 – 01:05:35:19
Back in 2000 2010, I was obsessed with Yahoo poll like full on league tournaments, daily competitions, the whole thing. And somewhere along the way, teenage Brain me realized that if I pretended to be a girl, people were insanely nicer to me. So I spent four years catfishing the Yahoo pool world as Alexandria, using photos of an extremely attractive girl from my school being.

01:05:35:21 – 01:05:56:18
Got me free stuff. Free wins, free homework help. Honestly, it was like unblocking life on easy mode. Eventually I got caught. So. So I dropped it. So I dropped the act and went back to being my actual self. They put their name there, but I started out because this is this is lads anonymous and I ain't going to do it.

01:05:56:20 – 01:06:28:08
Here's where it got even more cut. Even after the reveal, one woman kept talking to me, a brunet from Ohio. While most people on Yahoo were older, unattractive, or pretty overweight, she actually was a decent looking gal. She was in her mid-thirties. I was 18 and after moving our chats to Snapchat, things got spicy very quickly. I was about to start university, didn't want to go in as a virgin.

01:06:28:10 – 01:07:04:07
So when she mentioned she'll be vacationing in South Carolina within driving distance from me, my brain went a. That sounds completely reasonable. I told my parents I was visiting a mate at uni. Instead, I drove to South Carolina to meet her. Her mum and her daughter on their farm and their family vacation. We spent a couple of days together and yet I lost my virginity to the woman I had met through Yahoo pool, and that trip we kind of drifted apart, but the memory remains.

01:07:04:09 – 01:07:28:21
Anyway, that's my internet confession and that is something I need. I can make as a fella. Where did he say? He didn't say he. He didn't say where he lived, but he lived in driving distance. But South Carolina, that that seems mental to me because, like, I don't know, for Brits listening to that state. So much for, like, countries.

01:07:28:23 – 01:07:53:14
I think when you say South Carolina, Americans also think that what we would consider mammoth drives, they just sort of do it in their sleep, like, it's only a 12 hour drive or a 12 hour drive you can get anywhere in the UK. You can go anywhere in 12 hours. Like you. Yeah. The only the longest drive I've ever done was was the Lake District to London, to Bristol.

01:07:53:16 – 01:08:11:16
No, no, no, it would have been Bristol Airport and then back to where I live. It's at 14 hours, but that's because of traffic jam. That was traffic jams. Oh, God, that's 30, 48 hours. It was hell, right? The whole as we were driving down the whole, the whole of the M1 was closed because of an accident, hold of it or both lanes.

01:08:11:16 – 01:08:25:17
So we had to go divert through Preston of all places, which is an absolute time. It was hell, but. Yeah, but you know, in America they're like 14 hours. Yeah, right. That's one. Yeah. Yeah. It did all the time probably that to work. I mean.

01:08:25:19 – 01:08:47:09
That's so funny. Gina, what? When we spoke about the internet and Yahoo and I remembered that I'd met someone during those early years playing Yahoo pool. You did? Yeah, I did, yeah. And she is a friend on my Facebook. My, my Facebook is private. It's locked down. No one gets in there. My kids are on there.

01:08:47:11 – 01:09:07:06
I will never let like random as in. But this person who I used to play Yojimbo, she is still there. Now, what about my. No. If I don't know anything about. I never spoke to it. Not fucking 20 years at least. What? What did you what what was she going to like? You want it to pay high?

01:09:07:08 – 01:09:23:22
No, no, no, none of that. It was just a, I think she was quite lonesome, so I think she was, you know, so I was just chatting to her like there was nothing. Yeah, there's none of that for me. It's so. But, Yeah. No, not spoke to her since, but she's still there. I found that we have a deal.

01:09:24:03 – 01:09:45:15
What are you doing here? What? She came. Oh, love. Yeah, there was a there was a, There was a woman. I had a one night stand with a long, long time ago. Yeah, and we're not friends or anything. There was a brief moment afterwards where we were texting each other, and sometimes I would see, sometimes I would see, what?

01:09:45:15 – 01:10:06:15
I'd be on my way to work very rarely. We exchanged pleasantries, and it would be nice. Okay. Yeah. And so there was nothing past that, but then I. Right. I was going through all my old chats on WhatsApp, going all the way, all the way back. Fuck it out. I mean, I don't know what's happening around.

01:10:06:17 – 01:10:29:06
Fuck. Nice. What were you just all kind of, deleting them? I just curious about what I was talking about, but, And I must have had a number saved on my phone. And, you know, when you save your numbers, if they're on WhatsApp, they're there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and I noticed that she has, like, a massive family with kids and stuff.

01:10:29:06 – 01:10:50:15
Not just for us. Wicked. Because I think she, I felt like she was potentially wanted a relationship or why don't you go further? But I didn't at that time at all. And so, and so, so it was nice anyway, to see your profile. Yeah. Yeah, that is nice. Literally hadn't haven't thought of that or like fucking, I don't know, 11, 12 or 13 years.

01:10:50:17 – 01:11:03:17
Was there any point of view that wanted to just. Chuck. Yeah. How's it going? No, just for a laugh. No. No, nothing. Like what? It. No. Jesus. Oh, do you want a bit of, like, drama in your life?

01:11:03:19 – 01:11:28:05
Hey, you're. I go Christmas. No, no, nothing like that. Good. Right. That brings us to a close. But today's part. Next week, we're going to be talking about retirement. Does any questions, any storage, anything you'd like to submit? Send it to that anon pod. Gmail.com. But until then, we will see patrons we see today.

01:11:28:05 – 01:11:31:07
Everyone out. See you Monday. Bye.

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It's fate. Go!

00:00:04:03 – 00:00:30:22
Do you, I don't know if this is just me feeling. Just being old and grumpy and stuff like that, but there's, like, 15, 20 WhatsApp groups, and everyone's going. Happy new year, happy new year. And I just feel like I'm saying it because everyone else is saying it like, I don't feel like I sound fucking awful, like saying this.

00:00:30:24 – 00:00:49:17
It's not like I don't wish them a not a prosperous and successful 2026, but I'm just saying it because everyone else is saying it. And I feel like, yeah, I don't I don't think anyone feels anything when they're saying it. Really? No. Like what I didn't say. I don't know when they're sending it. They don't feel anything.

00:00:49:17 – 00:01:16:00
When they receive it, they don't feel anything. No. It's like sending Christmas cards. Yeah, I know, you know, I always get like, my old man. It's like he's his generation, my generation. Where they would send it was like, rude if he didn't. Yeah. Pain in the ass. Like, right. My, Yeah. My mum I'm a dad. Both semi Christmas cards and my mum misses like, have you brought them Christmas cards?

00:01:16:00 – 00:01:34:17
I'm like no, like that's just pointless. I didn't buy Christmas cards. And then Christmas cards appear on the table that I write and I have to get through it. And I'm just like, writing the same thing as I do every year. I mean, I did my I've made it abundantly clear to absolutely everyone that I never buy Christmas cards.

00:01:34:19 – 00:02:01:00
Like I would happily never receive a birthday present if it meant I never to buy any. Like the great you sent me and brother. Me and my brothers have never bought each other a gift. Ever. Have you not read? No. I mean, maybe I don't remember, but it's just like unspoken rules. I. And it's better for everybody. Yeah.

00:02:01:01 – 00:02:22:07
My my sister and I, we never buy any birthday presents for each other. We're both December babies. It's an expensive month. We don't do it this year, though. She was a bit cheeky. She bought me a birthday present. She said, I saw this. I thought of you. I just knew that you'd like it. So I thought I would do it as our fuck.

00:02:22:07 – 00:02:48:03
What is it like? What? She got me and she got me two meadows. Their actual meadows that my, great granddad won in World War two. Yeah. That were you would like that? Yeah. And I was like. I was so, like, choked up by it that she, she she thought about it. Not really thought about it. I knew that I'd love it.

00:02:48:03 – 00:03:04:11
I knew that, you know, connection to the family and my love of war and stuff like that. And at no point did you have an inkling or sort of know not, are you? No, no, no, I know that the you know, the what she did for you was a wonderful thing, but she just didn't enter your mind once.

00:03:04:13 – 00:03:23:08
No, no, no, you're right, you're right. Yeah. But look, you've got an agreement in place, haven't you? So it's not on you. I think that's fine. Yeah. That's nice. Very nice of her to do it. It's actually a bit more special. I've got my granddad's actual ones from when he. When he. What he got in the war was that four of them.

00:03:23:08 – 00:03:41:04
3 or 4 of them. What do you have them. Yeah. That he's ones that he was given in the war. Yeah. Oh my God, that's quality. Yeah. Somewhere I feel like I don't know where they are. They just I feel like you should wear them, you know, like Uncle Albert used to just pin them to his height and.

00:03:41:04 – 00:04:02:17
But what about he didn't. They weren't any, like, special ones. They're all just standard in infantry. You know, he wasn't like you. Your I don't know, I've got 20 Germans and just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he just fixed planes, I think, so that he can get many medals for fixing planes. But he, he served this part very important part as well.

00:04:02:19 – 00:04:23:14
Yeah. Very true, very true. How was, Yeah. Gone. Just gone back to the present. Things like if you've got five brothers, you receive one present, but you have the four or 4 or 5 different present buying experiences. Mate. That's awful. So it's better for everybody.

00:04:23:16 – 00:04:33:22
And it, yeah, completely. I totally I mean, I've got one sister, and I don't want to buy her presents. Hell, yeah.

00:04:33:23 – 00:04:56:24
I think he says, well, we're old enough now where we're in that space of our lives, hopefully. Where, if we want something that we really want, we just go out and buy it. So it's like where I feel like at Christmas and birthdays that we're just in this death row of buying presents because we're supposed to buy presents.

00:04:56:24 – 00:05:20:19
Yeah. My, my, my dad has been giving me 100 pounds since I was 16. Yeah. Still 44. Give me 100 pounds. Is inflation a stuff you go up to a, It's exactly the same with my dad as well. Stop giving me 100 pounds. Not worth 100 pounds anymore, is it? It's like he gives me the hundred.

00:05:20:19 – 00:05:39:06
It gives me 100 pounds, for my birthday. It's like Christmas around the corner, and it's like. Oh, and then he'll give me Christmas money. And I'm like, well, he's giving me money. But then I have to be a thoughtful son and try and think of stuff to to give him. Yeah, I might, I well just say, well, why don't I give you 100 pounds?

00:05:39:09 – 00:05:46:22
We just cancel each other out. Yeah. I think that we just don't give each other 100 pounds. Yeah.

00:05:46:24 – 00:06:15:10
Yeah. No, no, it's really, really. Did you have a nice 20, 26? What, a New Year's Eve? Yeah. All right. I, it was a we have this, we have this strange tradition, and I quite like it that me, the kids and the missus, we go ice skating every New Year's Eve, we go ice skating. I don't know how or why that came about.

00:06:15:10 – 00:06:42:03
Maybe because it feels a little bit Christmassy because of ice, snow, that type of thing. So we went ice skating. We came back, we ordered a pizza. Oh, we watched, you know, the it's just the usual shite on New Year's Eve on the TV, then watch the fireworks. And it's so funny, you know, when you're watching the fireworks.

00:06:42:04 – 00:07:04:06
My Mrs. was like, oh, wait, isn't the sky clear for the fireworks? And it's just like, oh God, we sound like such mums and dads and 40 year olds. That sounds. And then to dream that evening. Yeah. Oh yeah, it was the pizza I had, even though it was lovely. I was beatboxing on the toilet most of the night.

00:07:04:08 – 00:07:26:08
What? So that was. Where'd you get it from? It's a place called Papa Luigi in Milton Keynes. Knock knock knock. Like a Domino's running from, I think they might be nationwide. I'm not sure, but it was a lovely pizza. Lovely. But there's something in it that's just. Wait, wait. Yeah. The way he's named my fucking, mate may also explode.

00:07:26:08 – 00:07:49:18
It's fucking Terence even. Yep. During the night. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was, there was two before I went to bed. One at night. And then I had to go for one again this morning. It's like, how much is left in me? Nah. I'm empty. Literally empty. There's nothing else to come out. Yeah, totally. And this fucking this, pizza still playing havoc on me, but, no, drinking.

00:07:49:18 – 00:07:56:01
Didn't have a single drop also as well, I just want to mention Christmas Day.

00:07:56:03 – 00:08:18:03
Boxing day, New Year's Eve. I've not had one one drop of alcohol. That's good. Right. And that's not not that's not like, oh. I'm trying to be sober. I'm not, you know. Oh, I just because I was driving round my mum's so obviously I wasn't drinking. I had a couple of, 0% beers, but Boxing Day, I was at home.

00:08:18:03 – 00:08:38:08
New year's, I just I don't know, I don't know what's, It feels weird. And then I just feel weird. Like, if I'm not, I'm. Do you ever feel weird that you had a proper, You had a good drink? Never. They. Didn't you say maybe. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I got proper belted. Do you? When you're having a beer at home or a wine and your missus isn't.

00:08:38:12 – 00:09:02:11
Do you feel weird that your. Yeah. The only one drinking? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, but it's what I do. We unwind with a bottle of wine on the sofa. Right. Okay. But when I went sober last year. Yeah. Ollie was like, I don't like this. She doesn't. She wasn't encouraging me to drink. She felt awkward having a glass of wine.

00:09:02:13 – 00:09:23:04
Yeah. I don't know why. Yeah, I can honestly, I feel like an alcoholic otherwise, don't you? Yeah. Yeah, I understand that. My missus just. She's a tea monster, so she, just drinks tea all the time, so I'm not going to fucking sit around having the kind of high technology drinking tea. It's a bit weird. She. We, wrote the, the the theme tune.

00:09:23:04 – 00:09:40:02
Sing the theme tune, sing the film tune. What is that from? I don't know. I always want to say Harry into it, but I don't think it is. Yeah, I think it might be Little Britain. Anyway.

00:09:40:04 – 00:10:10:12
Just, just, Dim night, hazy light, band of brothers playing tunes high as quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:10:10:14 – 00:10:37:01
Hello and welcome to anonymous is episode 130. I'm Ricky, he's have two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and I'll feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod. It's New Year's Day. We're recording on New Year's Day. It's, It's a new day.

00:10:37:01 – 00:10:56:20
It's a new dawn. It's a new way to drink life. Is it? What difference does it make to you? I don't know, it's just that it's, No. No one's doing anything new Year's Day, have you? If you got people coming over. No. No one's ever come into my house ever again. My. No. What are you doing at my my family?

00:10:56:21 – 00:11:21:00
Well, my in-laws, all of them. Every single one of my Irish in-laws that descending on my house. How many on the side of this? A fucking lot, boy. There's a lot. Well, you could ask. I think we are just going to be doing stuff like a big chili nachos, that type of, you know, picky food. Really? I, I like the idea of Irish.

00:11:21:00 – 00:11:45:07
You I like, I like stew, do you? I think it's incredible, really. It's, It's lovely. Like, I like a stew, but it's like, kind of the much derided, like, fuck, are we having stew tonight kind of thing. Whereas I'm like, yeah, all these cats and I walk in the door, I'm not. Oh God, that smells incredible.

00:11:45:09 – 00:12:17:21
And that's. I'm right. Yeah, yeah. Fuck it. I might have a shooting tonight. Student dumplings. Right. It is a ring dinner. Yeah, but when I, when I come in from work or whatever, and I'm like, oh, well, we got dinner and it's like, stew, my, for fuck's sake. And, understand that? Oh, really? That's not that. I would say like I'd say, but that's probably the happiest I would be if I came in and said, hey, especially for.

00:12:18:01 – 00:12:42:24
Yeah, like, is so love, like, a marmot comforting in it. Yeah. It's it's cold at the moment. Yeah. It's it's fucking brass monkeys at the moment. It's, Yeah. It's freezing. I might be right there. Is it here? Yeah. I went out the last yesterday morning and it was like minus one degrees, and it was like super misty.

00:12:43:01 – 00:12:59:23
And it's one of the best walks I've ever had. Loved it. Really? Yeah. But what would have made it better if I got home and there was someone making stew? Yeah, I would have been right. You, when you're walking, you had the ice for me, didn't you? Yeah. The first time that's ever happened in my life.

00:13:00:04 – 00:13:19:00
I was out for a while. I was out for a good hour and off, and I had ice in my hair and ice, and my beard felt like that's grilling me. So, yeah, it was wind. It's quite windy. I know it's out in the exposed. I was exposed, I was out on these fields. It was good though, because like all floor rock art.

00:13:19:00 – 00:13:37:07
So, you know, I wasn't stepping in and you've got muddy patches which you generally. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, there's fucking ice in my bed when I got in a car. That shit. How does Frank like, the ice? I always think about dogs because they've got paws. Like, if they're putting their feet on freezing cold surfaces, it's fucking horrible.

00:13:37:08 – 00:14:01:19
Yeah. The pads, they can't. There's, like, there's not, like, not many nerve endings in the pads. So it's almost like designed to withstand sort of don't get me wrong, they can hurt their pads and they crack and if they don't take care of them. But generally the right is hot. Surfaces are a problem really. Right. But also sweat through their feet, water they pants but they also sweat through their feet.

00:14:01:21 – 00:14:26:22
They have sweat glands. They they. Yeah. And now I've said it. I feel like I've just made up, so much about dogs that I don't know. Oh, Fucking great. Yeah. I know, yes, they do sweat through their pads. Oh, no, I was right. It's a mine. So basic when it's hot sometimes and they walk on like a dark floor, you can see their footprints.

00:14:26:24 – 00:14:50:16
Bark. But mainly through what they call them. Yeah. No, it's that he was right. He was. He enjoyed it. Yeah. I mean, that does sound wonderful. So these are mixed with you guys. Let him have the lead and enjoy it more. That's my fucking dog. So I have no idea what his temperament is like, whether or not he should be on a lead off the lead.

00:14:50:16 – 00:15:11:06
Right? I'm not for that. I mean, an open field. You're not thinking for a bit. I'll let him off the leash. Do you think that hasn't crossed my mind? You know, in the in, like, the West Country, open fields for miles. No one's around. It's not Gene. You not think I've thought about all the time of the leaves?

00:15:11:06 – 00:15:33:15
You think he's never been off the leash? Is that what you did? I can't see past. It's ten feet in front of me. I can't see him off the leash. He can. He can hear all kinds of things. If he goes, he's gone. I can't fucking see him. Okay. That'd be a nightmare. Right before we get into it, it is New Year's Day.

00:15:33:15 – 00:16:02:10
It is 2026. I just want to say thank you to everyone that still listens to lads. Anonymous. Everyone that drops us a DM on Insta, emails, sending submissions, social interactions, the patron lot supporting us, keeping us going. We hope you have a fantastic 2026. And I actually mean that because, you know, you guys are the ones that keep this podcast going.

00:16:02:10 – 00:16:26:19
So thank you so much. And yeah, I hope you have a good one. Do you know what the topic for today is? Five. Remember it's retirement. Good. I mean, I don't think I'll ever retire. Do you know what what we're doing is at work week. If I was on a building site. Yes, I'll be retiring as soon as possible.

00:16:26:21 – 00:16:35:13
We sit down and talk for an hour on a microphone. It's like it's no big deal. If I can do it, I'll probably do that forever.

00:16:35:15 – 00:17:09:18
Would you really? Yeah. If I need money, of course I will. Yeah. If I, if I was, you know, if I inherited loads of money or, I won the lottery, I wouldn't do anything then. No, but I can't foresee a world where I have enough money to go. All right? I'm not doing anything else. So would you would you set, like, do you have or have you ever thought about, like, an exit strategy?

00:17:09:20 – 00:17:33:23
I think that's what people call it. Yeah. When I had a day when I had a job, I did. Yeah. Like a my real job. I'd like to get a legitimacy consider killing myself. If I thought I'd have to live in working in London, in Victoria till I was 68. God, that'd be fucking mental. Something would have happened during that period where I.

00:17:34:00 – 00:17:53:10
I would have had to make a massive change. And it was just kind of lucked out with podcasting that I didn't have to get nine. I could leave the 9 to 5. The thought of doing that until, 68 is just, I just I just couldn't do it. I remember I remember leaving university at 20, what, 20 years old, right?

00:17:53:10 – 00:18:12:08
Yeah. Finishing less. I didn't actually finish it. I left, but, and then I got a job. And I remember about two weeks into the job, I was like, is this it? This is it, isn't it? This is this is it for the next 60 years. Well, just two weeks into a job. Yeah, I might have even been on a temporary job.

00:18:12:10 – 00:18:37:23
And I was like, I've got to do this now for 50 years, and. And then I might retire. And then five years I die. So it's this shit, which is a form of trying to think, which drove me to do something. I needed something to keep me sane. Rick. Yeah. Yeah. Kept me, kept me sane, basically. So then it became something I could turn money out of.

00:18:37:23 – 00:19:04:18
But yeah, no, I would have definitely thought about an exit strategy then I am I am thinking in terms of like, retirement and stuff like that. Sorry, sorry. You know, what was I was talking about? Sorry. My mind went blank then for six, I think about sort of like pensions and things like that.

00:19:04:20 – 00:19:31:14
Right. But, it's. I've got a small pension from work. Yeah. It's nothing really. So I need to basically. What what when you set up as a, when you set up as a, where am I, a business limited business? Yeah. You instead of paying corporation tax, you can put that into a private pension. Yeah.

00:19:31:16 – 00:20:03:00
Which isn't taxed until you withdraw it. And then you pay tax on the pension when you use it in the future. Right, right. I'll get. Yeah. So my plan is once the house is sorted and everything, then, then I'll pay into that, instead of paying corporation tax, basically, that's the way it works. That's my plan. So anyone who has it, these, you know, anyone who's got a business and you know, you have a choice between you would be a sole trader or you've been a, a limited business.

00:20:03:02 – 00:20:20:09
If you want a sort of build up your pension pot, it's better to be a limited business because you, instead of just handing over a check to the tax man. I never see you again. Yeah, I plan for the future. If I need an exit plan would be to pay into a private pension. But.

00:20:20:11 – 00:20:39:10
That's. That's good. Say so. You've got you. I mean, you've got like a you've got a bit of an idea. It's not like you're sitting there and you're like, I've got nothing, I've got nothing. I don't know what I'm doing. I've there is something that is kind of whirring away in the background that that's kind of like, yeah, I'm hoping in the future I'll be able to afford to do that.

00:20:39:12 – 00:21:10:00
Yeah. And once we get there, with the House of life become less expensive. That is still it. Yeah, yeah. So that's that's the plan, but I'm not sure I'll live till 565. Yeah. I've heard you say this a fair few times across the years on the pod. Like what? What makes you feel and think that it's fair, like a when don't I feel like I would probably do like a little 55 heart attack though.

00:21:10:02 – 00:21:13:12
I'd say it's.

00:21:13:14 – 00:21:34:17
I feel like kind of what's the point? But you kind of, your partner can your wife can draw down on your private pension, I think. So that's even if I don't live that long, I can, you know, I do come from a family of long livers. I should probably think about this like my my, my nan was 94.

00:21:34:18 – 00:22:03:14
Her sister was 96, her sister, 98, 98. And she's still going, oh, shit. Her dad died at 99 because he was desperate to get his telegram from the Queen, which you. I'm not sure if you still do that, but you read 100. Yeah. Telegram from the. Yeah, yeah. King. Now. So in that in that instance, I probably should have a pension just in case I get past 55.

00:22:03:16 – 00:22:32:17
It's. Yeah. What about you? So I like I don't really have anything at the moment. So this is where I kind of like when I was growing up and I worked at different places when I was younger. I worked there for 3 or 4 years, and then I got a company pension was paying into that. I left, then the pensions, you know, frozen because I'm no longer working there, no longer paying into it.

00:22:32:19 – 00:22:55:18
And then I was, my previous company before I was doing this, and, Network Rail. I was there for like ten years. And then after that five years, you get the choice to go on like the real high end pension. You only get one, you only get one chance to go and it all fits you.

00:22:55:18 – 00:23:13:10
And if you don't take it you can never go back onto it. And it's, one of the best, you know, public services, pensions that are still going, I believe. So I went on that and I was on that for five years. And then I left. Do you know how much is in your pension? See, this is this is it five?

00:23:13:11 – 00:23:32:21
I don't understand pensions. I hear people talking. Lads like us in WhatsApp groups. And, I've got this for my pension and this and that and that. The interest on, I don't know what the fuck I know. I've got a lock in for it, and I know it's kind of something. I can see it. Yeah, yeah. All right.

00:23:32:21 – 00:24:01:08
I don't know where it is because a lot of people don't know. They moved jobs and stuff and they don't know how to track everything. But there are tools available that help you track your pensions down. But so you do know. You know, you know the value of it. I do, but having been in this decent pension for five years and then the standard pension at Network Rail for five years, like that's not going to be enough to sustain me when I hit 70 or whatever and then just live my days off that.

00:24:01:10 – 00:24:23:06
So I'm in this position now where I have those like smaller pop pensions. But since kind of working for myself and the money I have coming in, I don't have money to be like, oh yeah, just if you stick 200 pounds in your pension each month, you won't even notice it. And then when you when it comes to retirement, you'll be laughing.

00:24:23:08 – 00:24:44:21
I fucking don't have 200 pounds. Just stick the pension each month like, so, eventually I will get to a stage where the money that I have coming in the. I'll be able to contribute to my pension or get a private pension. But at the moment I'm kind of like living hand-to-mouth. And it's like, but this is 43.

00:24:44:23 – 00:25:06:04
Yeah, because I a lot, a lot, a lot can change very, very quickly. You don't know, like I'm like where I'm at where I was at in 2018 to where I'm at now. It's like buying a house I thought would be impossible doing the house up on me. Impossible. But, you know, I didn't have a pot to piss in for years, years and years and years.

00:25:06:04 – 00:25:25:17
But it's only been the last since lockdown. Pretty much was able to change things around a little bit. But, Yeah. Yeah. Don't. I mean, I get the anxiety from being in that position. People listen to this got like a lot of people don't have massive pensions or put paid in, but a lot, a lot can change in a short time.

00:25:25:19 – 00:25:42:15
Especially if you can't sort of see, you know, find opportunity. But what you should do is marry, get officially married for, for a pension.

00:25:42:17 – 00:26:01:03
That's a good idea. I just got one with the school. Yeah, yeah, go to school. But also her job. Now, like I said, if you ever take my advice and become a delivery company. So, yeah, she could pay all the corporation tax, all of it that she would pay to the government as 20% a year. That would go to the government anyway.

00:26:01:05 – 00:26:31:10
Yeah, she can put that in a private pension because obviously the government wants older people to have money. They don't need to be dependent on, on, on the, on the national pension. So they encourage people to do this. So, so you're like, I could spend that money on myself, I could spend the money buying things, or I could spend the money on a new car, whatever it might be, or I'm going to have to pay corporation tax anyway, put it into a pension, then you marry, then you take it.

00:26:31:12 – 00:26:35:05
Yeah.

00:26:35:07 – 00:26:51:02
That is a I think I might tell you that. Thank you very much. Like, don't tell us what you're doing. Just make it a big romantic thing. I'm like, yeah, you're right. It was snake in the grass is going to be listening to this and know the plan. Yeah. Just, I don't know what you heard on the plan.

00:26:51:05 – 00:26:57:13
Yeah. Just. So if you're listening to this, don't. Yeah. Scupper Ricky's plan.

00:26:57:15 – 00:27:02:05
All right? This is a long game he's playing here.

00:27:02:07 – 00:27:26:13
How? Like your parents, they must be both retired now. Yeah, yeah, dad retired when he inherited loads and. Well, yeah, a fair amount of money. Yeah. He talked about, I don't know, 58, I think. Really? Yeah. He had a pension and he'd been plumbing. Well, central engineer, he's been going die. And then uncle Bill died, and uncle Bill was wealthy.

00:27:26:17 – 00:27:46:15
He's he had a, he had a big pension from the Army, uncle Bill, because he lost a leg at Normandy. So if you retired when you get a big pension, he had his widow, his pension. So his wife Ivy died when she was in our early 50s. And she worked. She had a job in insurance, and she had a lot of money.

00:27:46:17 – 00:28:06:03
And so he drew down her pension. And then he was successful in insurance as well. So he had his own pension. So he's just fucking bawling out. And you. Right. Every time you calling me be on a cruise somewhere. But, you know, some people kind of going to the show when they lose their partner, he was just like, I'm going to live.

00:28:06:09 – 00:28:34:01
I'm going to live as much as I can. And he did fair play to him. But he, Yeah, he he, he he he retired, and he's only two beneficiaries from his will, my dad and, another lady. And so, yeah, they halved his fortune. And so that in that point that was getting so sick of working for this company, they were changing all their hours and making it, I don't know what I was doing was pissed off about him.

00:28:34:03 – 00:28:59:08
And he wouldn't do three days holiday in the summer. Three weeks holiday. You always had three weeks in Spain, three weeks in Spain. Yeah. Or Portugal? It Portugal came later. It was always that. It was always three weeks in Spain. Is that when you do anything else like. All right we are we go in Portugal to say and he, he, he decided he's going to quit because they wouldn't give him three weeks off.

00:28:59:10 – 00:29:27:06
So I said, fuck you, I'm going. What a fucking guy. Yeah. My mother has no pension. Oh, okay. And I don't know how she's managed to just pull it off. Really? She married. She married again. And, I think they just live off his pension. I'm not sure. Yeah. Like my my parents, my both my parents are.

00:29:27:08 – 00:29:58:19
Well, both my parents are, I guess you would say retired, but my dad, he still works like he goes, keep himself busy. Like he's 73. He's still working at the moment. He's working. I think he's working at, like, a private school. And the head chef there has been off sick for a while. And he's getting up Monday to Thursday to do shifts, 6 to 1 or something like that.

00:29:58:21 – 00:30:23:13
As a head chef, just doing the kitchen, I 73. Does he have to just leave to food? Yeah, for the school. What is 73? What? What are you doing? What does he say? What does he say? A pension. And he said, well, they need my help. And he doesn't mind. He doesn't mind. I mind for the pure fact that I feel like he should be on cruises.

00:30:23:15 – 00:30:48:03
He has worked two, three jobs when he was younger. Always working, always grindin, always just, you know, just trying to be the model kind of it. And our, professional working money paying that, you know, all of that. And now this is his time in the sun. This is your time to kind of, go fishing, to go on holidays, to relax.

00:30:48:03 – 00:31:04:06
And he's sweating it out in the kitchen. And, and I say to him like, he just like, what? Why are you doing this? He's just like this bit of extra pocket money and it gets me out of the house, I think I don't mind, no, it's you, that he's got a point, like, just it's work to us.

00:31:04:06 – 00:31:31:04
But to him, it's. It keeps him. It's cognitive. Yes. It's. Yes. Everything. But my dad doesn't stop doing DIY. Just doesn't stop doing it. But to me, it's like the work, the amount of money handed over to builders. So the to do things I can't. Whereas my dad's pretty handy. Like the other day he's. I'm going to build a pond and I'm thinking just dig a hole, put some liner in it, put some stone throwing aside a pond.

00:31:31:06 – 00:31:52:03
Done. He he he dug a perfect rectangle in the floor. Yeah. Then started putting posts in and I was going to build a deck. He's built a deck. I'll tell you. Picture. This is insane. It's like something you see in a design magazine. He's like, and Rob, why are you doing here? So just enjoy it. Just enjoy doing that.

00:31:52:05 – 00:32:34:01
And no, no, I would like fucking with that. He needs to. He needs to keep his head that like like motivated and and and and I think if you stop then things can decline quite quickly. Yeah. That's what, that's what I was going to say I, I think if my dad didn't have that school work and he was just in his house with his messes rattling around, watching fucking Only Fools and Horses and EastEnders each day and just seeing that days, I think he'd become quite unhappy that he's cooped up in the house, quiet, kind of a bit reclusive because he doesn't have that social interaction like he does when he's working at the school

00:32:34:02 – 00:32:58:11
and and stuff like that. And your mind just turns to kind of like sludge. It just slows down because it's not being active, is not being worked. And I worry that as soon as he stops, then he'll kind of stop, if that makes sense, that I'm quiet and well, in one way, I'm happy that he goes out and he gets what he he needs and it keeps him busy and stuff at the same time.

00:32:58:11 – 00:33:14:22
I like 73 and I, you should be on a beach somewhere with a fucking cocktail or whatever. It goes on all the time. He does it all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. There is nothing more healthy than being proactive and moving constantly. If you want him to just. You think it's not. It's not healthy for him to sit.

00:33:14:24 – 00:33:34:14
Definitely not. It's much better to work and to move and to do. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like it's like having a dog extend your life for like five years. I saw that they ain't just because it's nice. Having a dog is mean because you walk in, you get an hour walking every day. You can't. Yeah. Yeah I'm pretty hung over at the moment.

00:33:34:14 – 00:33:54:15
Right. But I'm looking at him. I've got him with me. I can't say the word, but yeah, I know he's got to go out, so I'm going to take him out, even though I wonder what I really would like to do. I actually almost called you reconcile. I'm not. Then put him on a stay in bed. And that's how hungover I am.

00:33:54:17 – 00:34:13:11
My. And you know what? If you would have said that, I would have been off, for fuck's sake. But also, we've all been there, I totally understand. The problem is, is I would have to do it tomorrow, and I can't do it. Yeah, well, I can do it tomorrow, but I've got. I've already got three podcasts lined up for tomorrow, so.

00:34:13:13 – 00:34:41:07
Oh, fuck. You know what has to fit this in as well. And I just. Oh yeah. Yeah, we've been trained by that. Yeah. I'm sorry. I just want to say, my my my mum. Oh, yeah. She is. She's retired, draws by for their pensions. And she, I think she got a state one and a private one, but she's a counselor, so she still has clients that she sees.

00:34:41:09 – 00:35:08:09
So she has, money that that comes in and that it's kind of like, I guess. I mean, I wouldn't say I was going to. It's not a, like, a physical job. Do you know what I mean? Mentally. Yeah, sure. Physically, it's not like she's stacking shelves or whatever. When you say so, she's fine. She's, in about a week, she's going to go for two weeks.

00:35:08:11 – 00:35:31:06
She's, She was born in India, wasn't she? She was. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was born in, Mumbai. But to look at Ricky for those. But not right now. Look at Ricky's mum. She looks and sounds just like the typical English woman. But she was born in Mumbai. Yeah, yeah. This, Yeah. White women. My my mum's side of the family.

00:35:31:08 – 00:35:56:17
But both sides of my family are Anglo-Indian. Yeah. My mom's side of the family, majority all white, all born in India. Because in the court. Yes. Yeah. Well, it was, Yeah. So, you know, the British Empire. So it was they lived in British colonies in India that's run the railways. So that's where they lived.

00:35:56:19 – 00:36:21:01
Well, yeah. I think George Orwell was born in India as well, if I remember what he is, I think is called Anglo-Indian, but I believe he was born or has roots in Burma, I think. Oh, my. Feels right. Yeah. Yeah, I think he, I think he, he wrote a book about, maybe born in Mathura, Bengal in British India now.

00:36:21:05 – 00:36:44:20
Oh, really? You know, Bihar, Bihar gets in there fucking George is one of the one of my own as well on your life and. Yeah. Civic sir Ben Kingsley as well. Fucking one of my boys. That's quality. Yeah. Do you have, like, talking about retirement?

00:36:44:22 – 00:37:11:11
And we're talking about working as well. I have quite a few mates that they've already planned out their retirement, and then they've got their corporate jobs. Yeah, they've, that ever people that work in London or corporate companies in Milton Keynes or wherever it is. Yeah. Earning big money, mortgage nearly paid off. Yeah. You know, all the all these things, all these steps that they've, you know, taken, I know one of them.

00:37:11:13 – 00:37:30:24
He can't wait. He said he's going to press the button, and if he is, but he can't wait to in that life off and start a new life as a postman. He wants to be a postman. Wake up every morning, crack of dawn. Get your letters. Do you work? You're done at 2:00. That's it. And that's all I do.

00:37:31:01 – 00:37:50:06
What, is he going to do? That instead of doing nothing? And instead of you a full to do nothing? Well, I think he. That's his. Drop it. He would have paid off most of everything. So he can drop the stress and the money coming. He doesn't. He can earn less and be fine. Yes. So it's a weirdly, I don't discourage him.

00:37:50:06 – 00:37:59:06
You definitely follow your dream, right? But yeah, I stumbled upon this. Read it of people. Postman just angry at the Royal Mail the other day.

00:37:59:08 – 00:38:32:04
They all just the. You just complaining about how it's changed since it was privatized and it's not as good anymore. But how hard can it be? It just, you know, you walk around, you're in your shorts, it's minus free headphones and headphones on, just doing your best and posting the letters I don't know. Yeah. I mean, is there any jobs out there that you would think, you know, after I've kind of done the podcast in where, houses all paid off, I'm going to retrain and actually not retrain.

00:38:32:04 – 00:38:56:03
I'm just gonna work out. I'm just gonna, it's a five minute walk for me. I'll do work in the warehouse there. I always look at something like, there's this old boy who works in Greggs down the road from me. They look at the guy, but is this. What are you doing there? Well, you did. I was literally about to say we do it.

00:38:56:05 – 00:39:20:10
It's 75 or something, like I, I can't you just sit down somewhere like, live. But it maybe he likes a socialist. He seems to hate his job. It really annoys me. I want to fucking punch him. And he's, he's really slow. Also. Also, I was trying ordered more like, kind of a flat white and had a cross on whatever it might be.

00:39:20:16 – 00:39:39:02
Yeah. State Bank, whatever people have, they're not me, obviously, but. And he'll put his hand up like that. He's finger in the air to say one thing at a time. And I'm like, if you can't, how did you get this job? Well, I that is a bit, I don't know, but I find that a bit rude. It's a bit rude.

00:39:39:04 – 00:40:00:07
It's a finger. It's. Yeah. So one one, two, three. All I'm saying is a flat white and a crescent, I was I what is that? Is pressing the buttons really slow on them. But I'm not. I won't lose it, will you, Albert? Next time I think it goes up the bell, so suck it. Like, what was it Leslie Grantham was like.

00:40:00:09 – 00:40:29:04
Yeah, at the images. But in my. I can't see it, as you well know. But I know exactly the image you talking about. Yeah. I mean, you're right. I know the webcam. Yeah. Fucking weird. That was. Yeah. What's the worst one was, seeing, Ian Botham's toddler. Yeah. That. And that looked really like a bruised banana. I didn't it's also he didn't look.

00:40:29:04 – 00:40:36:11
Well. He looked they did it from, like, really unflattering angle like is. Oh yeah. Some work. Right.

00:40:36:13 – 00:40:45:17
Ian of. Yeah. Did I ask you to open that immediately. Can I be sent that to me?

00:40:45:19 – 00:40:59:14
Voice what a baby baby from it got his dick. How is it like, What? From what angle? He's looking at that guy in. Yeah. Lovely, right. I always put that in my mouth.

00:40:59:16 – 00:41:23:20
It can do for the image here. I found an image, but it's doctored. It's like a cricket ball. Where is my lawn? I know I found it. Good, good. Yeah, yeah, he sent it to you. Lovely stuff, lovely stuff. Can't wait to look at that. Disgusting. Can you put it in patron or something so everyone can see?

00:41:23:22 – 00:41:27:03
Yeah. We'll do actually. Yeah.

00:41:27:05 – 00:41:49:20
It's these gray. Yeah. From from memory. It was. It looked awfully weird. There you go. I was like. Yeah, boy. So when I look at that. Oh, shit. Shit. No, please, let me have a look. Let's have a look. Let's have a look at you.

00:41:49:22 – 00:42:18:10
I, Good. Yes. So it does look like a. Yeah. It's like bruised and dropping on banana. No, he's both in the background lying down. It's it's horrible. Why are you doing that. And that's a nice guy. Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah. It probably took a few and he's like yeah that's the best one. That's the one. And send it over to her.

00:42:18:12 – 00:42:48:19
She would love that. So I love that. Yeah. I am going back to the post a bit like if I was to do, any type of job, I kind of feel like your mind automatically goes to like, shelf stacking or not. That kind of right. Yes, I will just I will just do that. But it's such physical work and there's that element of numbingly boring other people as well.

00:42:48:21 – 00:43:16:01
Excuse me. Do you know where the toothpaste is? Play fuck off, mate. It's got songs up there. Read it. Yeah, it's with all the other toiletries. Where do you think it is? Yeah. I don't think I'd. I'd like to do a kind of, like a Parks Trust type of job. If you can volunteer or do something, you know, when you go out and cut woods down, cut grass in a zoo.

00:43:16:03 – 00:43:37:22
Oh, God, that'd be fucking amazing. Yeah, yeah. And we see really high sources. There you go. Can't get a job in the zoo. How about I take that now? Actually, yeah. When I was younger, I didn't really want to work in it, so. And I remember, why did I want to work in it? So I think I wanted to work in, like, a reptile enclosure.

00:43:37:24 – 00:44:04:07
Yeah. Yeah, I think I had this, like, dream of just. But what my interpretation of working in a zoo consists of is going into a cupboard, getting loads of meat and throwing it at crocodiles for them to eat. And I was like, yeah, that's a good job advice. It's exactly what they do. That and only that. You know why a hippo is perfectly suited to live in a zoo and have no ill, ill, ill health or ill benefits from it all benefits.

00:44:04:11 – 00:44:33:17
It just they don't they don't impact it. And the reason why is that they just do two things. Hippos. They eat and shag. Right. They eat, you know, like fucking vegetation. The herbivores that only me, and they if they're out too long, their skin can crack in the sun. So they have to be in the water all the time, so.

00:44:33:18 – 00:44:56:20
Right. They just chill in the water, and then they get out, and then they say, and again, they have the 80kg of vegetation a day or something. So genuinely, that's what should. I was watching a hippo video yesterday of a man roll a full sized pumpkin into Hippo's mouth, and then it's slowly closing, and then just munching on this pumpkin and eating it.

00:44:56:20 – 00:45:14:13
I was like, this is this is a good concept. I like this, I think Hippo, the last person I I'd want to be thing I'd want to be, I like if I was in the water I'd be most nervous with because I feel great white or a tiger shark. I've seen enough videos now that if you see them, they're probably not going to attack you.

00:45:14:13 – 00:45:41:20
Oh man. Of couple of things that come into my mind right there was. Yeah. Did you hear about the woman in California? They went swimming in California. And the shark, I, I think back to the surface with her body in its mouth. Oh my God. But ten days ago. Oh, I didn't see it. You don't see it like it's what was described.

00:45:41:22 – 00:46:02:20
Oh, yeah, I did. I didn't see the story. Eva. I was to Christmas a good story. The the. And then another one I saw was this, this sort of, tick tock channel called I survived. And it's stories of people that survived from their perspective. And a boat went down in the water. I don't know where they were, and they were swimming to try and find something.

00:46:02:22 – 00:46:26:14
And one of them disappeared and then shot back up in the air and screamed, shark! And then just pulled down again. I was swimming in the ocean. That was like a sister or something. Oh, God. Hell in it. But I wouldn't want to get eaten by hippo ever. Have you seen how quickly they move free? It's insane how they move.

00:46:26:16 – 00:46:44:22
How? How did I do? I can't swim, no. Do you know they can't swim? If they get into the deep water, they float to the surface. Take that. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. They they turn over and float to the surface.

00:46:44:24 – 00:47:07:16
But yeah I've seen loads of hippo attack attacking boats. They're just steaming free. Not free, but I. Well, when I, when I see a animal in a human being on Instagram sometimes, I can't not watch the entire video. I have to watch it. Whereas if someone jumping off a wall and breaking their leg, I can't watch that.

00:47:07:18 – 00:47:26:22
Oh, as soon as I feel like that might be that kind of video, I have to. Yeah, yeah, I hate that stuff. So I stick around for of it. I saw a a naughty Little Tiger video yesterday attacking a man who got out his car. Now I don't know where it is. I would think some people are saying some people say this, I, some people were saying it wasn't.

00:47:27:02 – 00:47:51:06
And the looks and the screams, I mean, they sounded real. And the whole action, the movement of it, it felt real. So I wanted to believe that this tiger did wait for its opportunity again. I, I really hate it. Yeah. Me too. I wish it didn't exist. I mean, I, I love ChatGPT, don't get me wrong, but it's really, really useful.

00:47:51:08 – 00:48:15:14
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But, generally, I think I can pin. Yeah, I it's it's hard because you don't know what's real anymore. Yeah. I can kind of still tell generally I think I can, but it's getting to a point. Like I said, six months to a year, you won't be able to tell. It's like, I don't know what we're doing.

00:48:15:16 – 00:48:40:03
I, I have to go to, comments and see what everyone else is saying, because otherwise I'm just forwarding fucking AI videos to people. I look like a dick doing it. Yeah it does. Yeah, yeah. So before this month that sent me a did I tell you this? I think I might have told you this. Yeah, I did, I think my dad told me he sent me this new artist that he likes.

00:48:40:03 – 00:49:08:11
And it was it's just I mean, none of it's real. Unlike the Philippine Boesch, Bush, Kelly Bush has 1.3 million listeners a month, and it's all I can think with that, right? I'm not piece of music. It's been great. It's on Spotify. It's playing the person who created it. But I like getting all the money for it. Yeah, I heard about it.

00:49:08:11 – 00:49:31:21
So whoever. Yeah. Would you tell me how you produce it? It's your you produced. Yeah. It belongs to you. Yeah. So you. Yeah to guess that you would, you would. Before we jump on, I just wanted to ask you what your dream scenario retirement is. I'm going to tell you mine. First of all why you have a little thing.

00:49:31:23 – 00:49:59:16
All right I've got on I, have you ready? Yeah. Mine is I've always wanted to live close to a body of water. Now, where I live now, at the moment, who wouldn't want to live next to a lake, may? Yeah. Imagine living. Imagine living this close to it. Like.

00:49:59:18 – 00:50:02:17

00:50:02:19 – 00:50:26:09
So that really could I live? Quite true. I see where the, canal. You know, you're kind of obsessed with war on you, love. Yeah, yeah, I have, always have been. And I live close to the canal. Close to the river. But it's not the same as I couldn't leave my back garden. And it's going to the river.

00:50:26:11 – 00:50:55:18
It's drawing to the canal. Or I have, like, an estate. Like at my house. Now, the retirement for me would be that somewhere where I could leave my house or see my house and just plop a fishing line in there and sit there all day with a little coffee and just watch the world go by being able to listen to kind of nature and just be zen.

00:50:55:22 – 00:51:18:08
My, where I live. I'm not sure I told you this. For this. There's a gentleman who bought a house, and I went round there to look at it by photos, because that's what I do now with a bifocals. And, I looked out his garden and I walked to the edge. And there's a there's a river at the bottom of the garden with steps going down into the water.

00:51:18:10 – 00:51:42:16
Oh, God. And he fishes it. Oh, oh come on. Oh, he gets up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope it's. Oh, would you get them in the river? The country river. Yeah. You would. My. Yeah. I'm, this is this is, so weird, but I'm actually meeting someone in a couple of days, and I used that. He used to hang around my sister, but.

00:51:42:19 – 00:52:09:06
And I used to hang around with his brother, and, I posted in a Facebook group, Milton Keynes, England Association Facebook group about shop. Local shop. That's fine. Danny. Yeah, right. That's the elusive fish. Is it so. So this winter? Yeah. I'm gearing up to fucking get myself a prize chub. And he saw my comment and he said, Rick, I've got an old, chub rod you can have.

00:52:09:08 – 00:52:18:16
And if you meet me down, down at specific rock rod. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, how's it been? You know.

00:52:18:18 – 00:52:40:21
Because this is a quiver tip rod. So the quiver tip rod, the tip of it is very, it's very bouncy, basically. So when you cast into a river, you're not using a float, you're using a lid. So the LED waste down to the bottom of the riverbed, and then you've got your hook coming off that. So your quiver tip is straight.

00:52:40:23 – 00:53:06:21
And when a fish takes it, it will start moving like this. And that's when you know you've got a bite. So I don't have one of those rods and he's going to give me that. But he also said, yeah, where we live, he's going to take me on a walk down the river where he knows that there are big chub in those areas, and he's going to point them out to me because he's caught them, so I can't I'm fucking oh, I'm so fucking stark.

00:53:07:02 – 00:53:13:00
I can't fucking bore you. I'm going to get a.

00:53:13:02 – 00:53:46:05
Isn't that like, cheating? Now, what was cheating? Well, like telling you exactly where to go to catch him, and then you catch one that's like, what's so. Well. Well, I mean, it's not. The fish hasn't jumped out, man. So you have to present these baits in the right conditions, the right weather, the right temperature, the right everything for them to be like, yeah, I'm going to have that right now because you could do you could spit, you could see fish all day and you could present bait in many different, many different baits, in many different forms, in many different ways.

00:53:46:08 – 00:54:04:06
And the fish will not take it. They will be like that. No, no, no, no, I know what you're doing. Right? Fuck off man. I'm still chilling and you can't catch him. So he'll point me to the areas of where these chub are, and then it's down on me and my fishing ability, whether I can catch him or not.

00:54:04:06 – 00:54:22:13
Right. I know him about fish in a bit of a. It's not looking good, brother. Right. So let me ask you this. And you know, those little motorized boats that drop bait into the middle of the pond or wherever? No no no no, not that. No, that's chief cheating. That's so bait by. No, I've that all right. What about, like, a harp, not a harpoon?

00:54:22:13 – 00:54:44:19
A, what? It called it catapult. Catapult baiting. Is that cheat okay, no. Not cheating. There's a skill to it that they skill to it, and they're not particularly that accurate either. So you can you can put enough bait to where you are using a well stuff like if you ever caught a pumpkinseed.

00:54:44:21 – 00:55:09:07
A pumpkinseed. Oh no. Pumpkin fish. Oh it might be a pumpkin fish. Do you know, is there one on the river that. No, not not in British rivers. And I, I don't think there is. I think if a seed fish,

00:55:09:09 – 00:55:35:20
Could produce a beautiful, beautiful fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's beautiful fish. I think they're in, not Florida or something. Maybe, but, but they, you know, they, do, you know, you can eat them. Can you tell them what? The pumpkin fish? Yeah. It always reminds whenever you think about it, it's obviously you have the lots of parties.

00:55:35:20 – 00:55:42:14
People move to the UK and they love eating carp. So they go.

00:55:42:16 – 00:56:06:02
There, right? And I know, and I say this, you get quite a lot of people on these fishing Facebook page. It's like if anyone hasn't caught a fish first people, I get it. Eastern Europeans. Oh yes, they've been down there. So there were nets the other day. You didn't you didn't see them just framing them because you can't catch fish.

00:56:06:04 – 00:56:33:13
You can get them in southern England. Oh, okay. But they are then native to North America. But they introduced, they. Yeah. I mean, I've got to say, have all this fish on here. Chub seems like the most boring looking. What about a rainbow? You know, and they're they're that they all in the river where I am.

00:56:33:13 – 00:56:55:02
Really. But they they are elusive motherfuckers. He's just a fisherman. I used to eat. They've got loads to eat, so it's hard to convince them to take the right. Yeah. Because they're in the river. Their natural isn't, I don't know, Brant Flake, or maggots or whatever. They're like, that's that's kind of foreign to me.

00:56:55:02 – 00:57:23:06
I'm not going to. If you ever want to go with an eel. Never caught. I don't want to catch one either. Little fuckers in there. Yeah. They're that they are disgusting pigs. Have caught little, little chub perch, bream, tench, carp. Roach Rudd. Goldfish. Caught goldfish. Yet have. Yep. They're not supposed to be in the river early.

00:57:23:08 – 00:57:39:22
No. Oh, you won't find them in a row in a river commercial. Like you'll find that I would have been putting in the mistake. Yeah. Not on purpose. Yeah, yeah, it's koi hop. Yeah, yeah, I caught one of those. That fucking. I might go to a pet shop, but you sell them, you can pick them up. They're that easy to catch.

00:57:39:24 – 00:58:01:14
They just come up to you, didn't they? But I'm glad. They got, what was going to say? What's your retirement? What's your, retirement dream? Yeah. Like a river through a garden would be the dream. Like I'm not a fish just to have it, I think, just to just to look at the best thing I ever did was sink a bath into.

00:58:01:14 – 00:58:19:01
Do you remember that in one six, eight? You will remember that, actually. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Sunk a bath into the floor. Made it into a pond. And we had, like, newts in there and fish and stuff. It was cool. Mine would just go further. Further remote, further rural, further away. Wow. Really? Yeah. This what?

00:58:19:01 – 00:58:38:02
We've moved into a little village now. But the dream I went when I was walking the dog the other day, I would, I found it. What's great about moving is it's loads of places I can explore, right. And find new walkways to go to. But I just saw this house on top of a hill, and I looked at it and I was like, I've just moved into the house and I'm like, I want to live in that house.

00:58:38:04 – 00:58:48:08
Just like that. Big brick walls, gardens do like.

00:58:48:10 – 00:59:14:09
Living so remotely. Does it scare you? Well, because, like, you're you're the only person there. Only if, like, people came along and tried to burgle you or whatever you do here is doing something that they, they target, like, yeah, okay, the PlayStations and all stuff like that. And you're like, you're the only one, I don't know nothing around in your books for sure.

00:59:14:10 – 00:59:37:11
Never thought about it before. More sort of security conscious here, but yeah, I, I, not really. Well, it doesn't you times it doesn't happen it like it's very rare for a house gets burgled where I live. It would be in the papers if it happened. So would you, right. If someone said, right, this is your house that you can have by the river.

00:59:37:13 – 01:00:05:11
It's distant. And there's one other house which is fairly close, but you've got a beautiful house and it's opposite. But I lived opposite you. Yeah. Me? Yeah. My family. Yeah. That would be amazing. You enjoyed it or would you be like, no, no, I just want to be alone now, I'd love that. But, what about I mates just where I lived, they, they done the roundabouts.

01:00:05:13 – 01:00:18:17
They've done the roundabouts again with the cross and it really. Yeah. It was up there for about a day and then someone had scrubbed it off, so I don't know what. Oh no. Oh, I live in a racist town or not.

01:00:18:19 – 01:00:36:06
I thought I was moving to a racist town, but apparently not since the progressive people here, because they say what they say is the new gaff where you live. Yeah. That they, they did the Red cross and the roundabouts. And then the next day it was, it was gone. Yeah. So we bleached it and scrubbed it off. That's quite nice actually.

01:00:36:06 – 01:00:57:14
Yeah. Someone's out there saying yeah, we're not having it. Yeah. You never not hear that sort of malarkey. I was surprised because I was like everywhere there would be that kind of malarkey. It's in wheelchair. You know. Yeah. Like there's never been a labor seat, a wheelchair, has it? Never. I don't think so. The fuck does not is not in living memory.

01:00:57:14 – 01:01:27:19
No, it's the green belt. And it keep them out. Fundamentally, they're all right as long as they're in London. The general mentality. Right. Before we move on, we do have a dilemma called the abomination and something only, you know, thirsty for more. The topic for next week is pop culture. Do you remember sending me a WhatsApp message?

01:01:27:21 – 01:01:57:08
Just said, lads, pop culture. Yeah, it feels like a good one. So maybe I did say that. Yeah, yeah. So what makes a good pop? The bad pop like carpets. Fireplace. Yeah. For last night. The unspoken rules of pubs. Yeah. As has anyone ever stopped for a pint. It's gone out for a pint. Pub regulars, the characters that, haunt these local pubs solo.

01:01:57:10 – 01:02:31:10
What is it? But yeah, if you. Yeah, yeah. Right now I've not. You've never just gone. I popped into the pub for a. But never, never in my life have I done that because I'm scared about being judged sitting on my spine. Let's talk about that next week. Yeah. I got, something. So it's, I hate that, that the, the kind of we're doing a live podcast and then you ask me stuff, and I answer it without lying, and I'm like, oh, God, people know this about my insecurities.

01:02:31:12 – 01:03:10:04
I think it's, Yeah, we're talk about this. We did a big bit on the podcast today with James about, having a solo pint, and it should be encouraged, but we'll talk about it next week. Oh, good. Good. So, yeah, everything about pubs, UK pubs, UK pop culture, anything that you, want to talk about, whether they're still as important to your community, the therapy sessions that you have there, celebrations, mornings, all that about how important and the culture of the British pub send it into lads and on FAQ lots and on pod at gmail.com.

01:03:10:04 – 01:03:21:05
I forgot their own email address then and we will read out. Now we are going to go into dilemma.

01:03:21:07 – 01:03:48:15
Oh, oh. So, just tired and you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad because pain will be a can in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest will bring you this lovely day. Black. You're safe here to get nice and warm between waking and.

01:03:48:17 – 01:03:51:10

01:03:51:12 – 01:04:20:10
The abomination. I have a Christmas dilemma, lads. I don't come across as ungrateful, spoiled or whatever, but I appreciate your thoughts for Christmas. My big gift was a piece of artwork that was commissioned by my wife and I. Were you thinking, that's pretty cool. What a woman. And that's what I thought too, as she was giving it to me and telling me the backstory whilst made opening it.

01:04:20:12 – 01:04:54:21
She combined all my loves family Tottenham, golf, Barcelona and dogs. The thing is, it's hideous. It's an A2 size specifically for my office to sit behind me during work cause my hobbies loves are individually just stuck onto this artwork. None of it goes together. I don't even like dogs. I like greyhounds because my grandparents had one and I said I like them once.

01:04:54:21 – 01:05:19:12
Or maybe a few times. There's a Labrador and a sausage dog on there, for fuck's sake. And it looks like the the now in heaven. I don't even own dogs. Now can I tell my missus the truth and hope we just laugh it off together? Or do I just have to accept it? But make sure I take it down during work cause it's truly an abomination.

01:05:19:14 – 01:05:46:02
I know, lads, I'm not sending you a picture. Oh, please. Please, I'm desperate to see that. No, don't tell her. Just deal with it, you know? Yeah, it's actually going to be, like, a lovely thing when you. When you were there. You can't tell her. Yeah. I mean, you done well because you generally. If I can't if if my Mrs..

01:05:46:04 – 01:06:07:02
I don't know, she's I can tell if she doesn't like something straight away. And, Yeah. And I sometimes get things wrong, but I don't. It's like one of them. And you just let that be the nice thing at the moment, even if you have to stare it. I mean, what could you do? What's practical advice here?

01:06:07:02 – 01:06:22:21
I you could just, hit it with a hammer. So. So that the glass smashes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put it down the side so I don't get that sorted. And you never get it sorted, but leave it out for about a month and then smash the glass and then just put it aside and I will get that replaced.

01:06:22:23 – 01:06:47:16
Getting something is something that never happens. No one does it. No, not. That's my advice. First, please. I want to see it. First of all, get a brass, get that clear mind. Get yourself sorted. And then I would I would hang it in the office. And then every time around it work or just actually off the wall. I mean it like I need to see my my Mrs..

01:06:47:19 – 01:07:07:17
She loved this bit of artwork. Loved it. She bought it all framed, just set pride of place in our kitchen. And then she showed it to me. And as soon as she turned it round, I just started laughing. I said, I said, are you fucking joking? And she was like, do you not like it? And I was like, that is hideous.

01:07:07:17 – 01:07:26:06
Let me see. I was just, I'll send you off. I'll send you after. Yeah. So yeah, it's downstairs in the kitchen. Yeah. Please send it. But my Mrs.. Like if I ever was to say she said like, oh like, how do you like my new coat and what. It's all right. And whatever. She's like, you don't like it.

01:07:26:06 – 01:07:49:07
They, And, I'm not. Yes. Yeah. You know, skirting around it, she just doesn't give a fuck what I think, though. And I think more more power to her. If she loves something and she can tell that I'm a bit like, Yeah, not not really my cup of tea. It makes her wear it more what it's like to a point I think only values my opinion.

01:07:49:07 – 01:08:12:22
But generally she thinks without question that her opinion is more important. Yeah. And decision making in the House, for example, what color the wall should be there is in the world where I really get to. I got to choose my office. Nice. Let me have that. But she did quite like what I chose. But generally it's her choice.

01:08:12:24 – 01:08:34:15
Yeah, and that's fine. Happy wife, happy life in it right? Yeah. Okay. As right we are going to go onto something only, you know, really beat. Next week's class means something. You know.

01:08:34:17 – 01:08:57:04
Thirsty for more match with a bird online and a range friend I am. She turned up with an umbrella and asked if she could drop it off at my flat, so I knew it was game on. The skies were blue and there was zero chance of rain. She might as well have announced that she was DTF, that few drinks first seemed more civilized, right?

01:08:57:06 – 01:09:14:06
When out in town and had a couple of pints. She had a couple of Diet Cokes. We were getting, great. And I knew I was on for a good shag. And after the exchange of messages during the week, I told her I was just going to pop to the toilet and then grab a couple of vagabonds.

01:09:14:08 – 01:09:45:16
And she mentioned that if I wanted to do that on her, then she would be fine, but I asked, do it. I'm sorry. What? What was that? She repeated confidently. If you want to do that on me, then that's fine. I shuffled off to the toilet, confused the aroused. I stood at the urinal, frantically messaging the group chat, seeking advice like most, but sampled my fair share of wet work.

01:09:45:18 – 01:10:07:04
Pornography. But this was a whole different level. It was on a plate and it was coming at me hard and fast. I headed back to our table nervously and ordered the eggs. She didn't touch as I down both a short Uber ride and we're back at my flat and things are progressing. Her intentions ring in my ear.

01:10:07:06 – 01:10:35:23
I know what she wants, but am I ready to deliver that? I'm not sure. She sucked me off on the whole time. I'm acutely aware of what's to come. She's going to ask me to piss on. That was already. It just feels a lot. She performs three, maybe four minutes of stunning fellatio, and I return the favor. After perhaps 45 seconds, a similar gush of liquid in my mouth.

01:10:36:00 – 01:11:07:00
She seen her opportunity and she's taken it. My mouth is full of piss. And what else do you do after that? But swallow? She acknowledge the act and address the elephant in the room by muttering, good boy, I, I feel used and dirty. However, I couldn't have been more turned on. Boy, I then commit. I then commit six, maybe seven years of my life, which is full of unsatisfying sexual experiences.

01:11:07:02 – 01:11:28:17
Nothing quite matches that night. No one has the confidence she had. I was no longer a good boy and I struggled to handle it. It's a slippery slope from that sort of mountain, and I'm not proud of the Google searches I made during that period. Luckily, I managed to find a way out and now have a mrs. and a baby.

01:11:28:21 – 01:11:53:05
But every now and again after a few drinks, I think to myself, where am I Mrs. ever piss in my mouth at that simple thought and act is something only I know. Good. I'm there. Yeah. That's good. Well yeah yeah yeah. Okay. Round of two, boy. Lovely. Like good boy. You can love me, but good. Can you imagine that?

01:11:53:05 – 01:12:21:15
That just. You think you're the. You're the pissy but you're the. You're the one getting pissed in your mouth. That is just, Yeah, I didn't realize. Ace. Yeah. You don't know? No. Do I know, do I? But yeah. Yeah. No, not been that. Don't want a guy there. Okay. The episode for next week. The topic is pub culture.

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Are those.

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Right. So I was talking about. Right. We're talking about in the, in the group, we're talking about Hamburg. And I went to Hamburg and it was like, I got to say, the one of the most sort, not as I saw it, is sort it, it was it was like, you think Amsterdam is sorted. It ain't. It hasn't got that energy.

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Hamburg got a different energy. It was just, it just felt like everyone was on heat. It was pride. Oh. Oh. Okay. Yeah. So we went to pride as a part of of my mate stag do. We went to pride up into pride in Brighton. That was cool. It's quite time till about 10:00 and it got a little bit hands you then.

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Oh well I was with my wife though, so we didn't get handsy back, but he, But in Hamburg it was mad. Like I had someone stuck a sticker on my back that just said, come inside me. Oh, my lord. It was on my back for about three hours. I didn't even know.

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My mate, he's a very good looking chap. He were just the leader. And it was his thing. James. Yeah. And he just was a leader. House leader, housing. And you can imagine the attention he was getting. I mean, he's a pretty boy, is very handsome. Yeah, yeah. And, so anyway, about this random encounter that I had.

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Right. So I, we, we got back to the hostel where we were staying, and my, I go back to the hostel website and, and all the lights went to bed, and I was right. Typical of me of the time. I just wasn't ready for bed. I didn't want to go to bed. Yeah, sure. I just wanted to stay up and, you know, get up.

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Yeah, yeah, you're in it. You're in a city like you when you're in a way that you like that. Yeah, but it was about two hours. It was nice about off one my in the morning I was in the Well yeah. And I was in the bar and I was just. And then the barman was just chatting to the barman sound geezer.

00:02:06:12 – 00:02:25:15
And he goes, do you want to do a line? And I was obviously I wanted a line. Yeah. I was like, yeah, yes, please. Anybody come out, come to the back. So I went into the back. He got his cock out, okay, went into the back and there was a pot wash there as well. And so right up three lines, we just bossed three lines.

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Nice. And we was like. And I was like, cool. So obviously then the chats guide and put the place closer to someone like that and he ordered one in. So we just went out into the night, me and this bloke, I just met it behind the bar at the hostel, the barman. And the pot was not a pot.

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And he, we, we just walked out into the night in Hamburg. It was in the summer, so it was quite balmy, but of course appears in the, off license. I was just walking around Hamburg doing gear with his keys. I just man, all we went. We sat on a park bench for about two hours in the middle of Hamburg, just chatting, and I felt like I'd known this bloke my entire life.

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I felt like I was getting to know him forever. It was the most intense, amazing, weird experience that's so difficult to explain. And he said, and we just kept going through the night until the train started running and he said, my missus is going to kill me. I've done it again. And I was like, what have you done?

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He goes on, I'll do this sort of thing. I end up not supposed to be finishing work, and then I don't come home. Well, this is going to leave me this time. Well, I hope I hope she doesn't. Anyway, he got on the train. He goes, I'll see you tonight cos I'm working tonight. I'll come out with you boys.

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We will go to Hamburg. Use English, expat English. Right. Okay, okay. There's. I'll come out with you boys into Hamburg. After, after after my shift. I was all right. Sweet. And then I thought also, I've got I've got data here. I've got someone who can sort me out because. Oh, you can go all you, all we got.

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All we could go to at the time was on Hamburg was street dealers are just so. Nothing basically. Yeah. Yeah. And so he didn't show. He didn't show for shift. No. Oh, no. Yeah. And I didn't see him. And I didn't never seen him again since. And I don't know his name. His name? You don't know.

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And I say cut him up on nothing. Oh, no. He's gone. But, Ricky, it was like it it like I had known him my entire life. It was bizarre. I mean, I I'm, I'm half considering it didn't even happen that I was so fucked that I'd made it or like, you know, like, can get somebody Magnolia, MDMA. It may be.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is like a Fight Club type thing. Yeah. But I think about him every now and then they probably somebody and like, I wonder where he is and what he's doing. This would have been ten years ago. Now it is. Yeah. Isn't it mental and wonderful that I mean, the bit about what you said to me that, all the bars, the chat, and you just got a crate, a beer, and you just walking around Hamburg drinking beer and sitting on park benches.

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I mean, that's fucking wild. Yeah. Like thinking back to, yourself then and then to yourself now in your shoes. It's like. What? Who was that guy? I don't know, man. It was cool. Fucking. Yeah, that's what he was. He was cool. And that that is it. He said like, life is about.

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It's about doing things like, I know, like, it's easier when you're inebriated. And obviously drugs make you make bad decisions or good decisions, whatever. But like, I don't know. Yes, I'm mad what things can happen. It was it was really like quality, quality evening. I loved it and I got into bed about, oh, past eight in the morning.

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And then and yeah, that was it, mate. That was just stood a while. I popped into my head. We were talking about what? What was your what what did the stag. The stag pie. What did they say? Like where you been? What's what's black and what have you just got it now? No, I didn't I didn't know him, so I didn't know I didn't know them.

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The amount of, things like that that happened. Like back, back, like back in the day at your brother's flat in, where was the flat? Holloway road. Right. Flat? Yeah, it was up on Holloway, right? Yeah, it's just off. Just off of that. I the the times where we would go out and party and just the random people that would be back in that flat, and we would just chatting all night, and I'd have them on Facebook and we were like best mates.

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I'd never seen or heard from them ever again. No. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the glory of these of the authors in that. Yeah. I mean, that flat was meant to say what Ricky is describing, and it's my brother Ryan said that was off of mutual friend Guy. It's probably listen to this. Actually, we'd go back to the flat and we just got absolutely mangled.

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Actually, there was. That's what I said because it might expose the, we go back to this flat after being out in our angel, whatever. And it's great because it's like he's just somewhere to go. And it was safe and it was nice. And Guy and Ryan were play fighting. Do you remember this? Was she there? Yeah. He was that help save money.

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Was it helped clean up the energy? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Ryan and they were fighting then Ryan at, I think was like a bread knife. And guy had, a cardboard tube. Yeah, like a kitchen in there of a kitchen row. Yeah. Like. Yeah. And he's hitting Ryan with the tube. And Ryan's picked up the knife and started slashing back up trying to chop the tube or something.

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And he's hit guy on the arm and he's fucked him. Basically. Severed guy's severed both his tendons. They went up into his arm. You to have an operation?

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And, that was a peak night. And I was still I was flying at that point as well. I was, I, I can't I can't cope with everywhere. My little brother Ryan didn't even take him to the hospital. My little brother took him to the hospital, and I picked him up. Well, Ryan was doing pretty shocking, but fuck you.

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I'm so.

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Going to run the, the tune. Oh, yeah.

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Run the theme tune. Singing the thing. I always wanted to do that.

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The night hazy light, Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music. So I, we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Hello and welcome to Latino. Now this is episode 131. I'm Ricky, he's flat two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature. Something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going from. Are you annoyed like I am that I've woken up this morning and I was promised a blizzard, a snow blizzard to be snowed in, to not be able to move out of my house because there was a cloud of snow and there is nothing yet.

00:10:08:04 – 00:10:29:00
Wind and rain. It seems to be consistency with this like storm that we've been there, talked up this fucking storm correctly or something. Whatever his name is, I don't know why isn't it should be a I don't want sign Jesus here. Anyway. Fuck life. My my dad bought four days worth of food because he thought he was going to be snowed in.

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That's what happens, right? I was like that. I'm pretty sure it's going to be all right. I don't think you going to get snowed in. And, I woke up. I mean, no, I mean, it rained a bit. I couldn't even tell if it was especially windy. And that was it. Where we are. Yeah, it was nothing.

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But I woke up, and BBC is trying to tell me 10,000 people are without power. All right, if you say so. Let's let's stop saying the UK will be hit by a snow storm. When you're talking about Scotland as well. Yeah, it doesn't count if you are Scottish is. Scotland is. It's a part of the UK. I get it technically, but when you say that we think we're going to get covered in snow, which is what we want.

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Yeah, yeah yeah, exactly. False promises. This is what makes us not believe in you. Yeah. We don't believe in trust. You ought to be. Oh, weather on satellite people. We don't believe in any of you. Yeah, and I want my snow topped things off like one of our mates, Alex, a message in the WhatsApp group. He lives in Telford.

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Fucking caked in snow. It's literally caked. It is the big. It is the Midlands of the Midlands and sort of North Midlands. I thought you'd have it, I know, I know, know in the Midlands you know. Ha ha ha ha ha. You nearly I think Milton Keynes sits in this weird little kind of, crate. So when there's weather happening, it happens all around us.

00:12:02:10 – 00:12:32:15
But it's never Milton Keynes, it's never us. And it annoys me so fucking much, I wouldn't it be snotty, but lying about it's just fucking right. When I thought we'd have localized flooding at least. I went for a walk this morning, and I thought that I thought the river would burst its banks. Nope. Fine. Absolutely not. But one thing I did notice, and maybe the guy who listens, who knows about, the scientific guy who knows about tsunamis.

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You know who I'm talking about? And I know you listen to this, and I know it's nothing different. And the only kind of, relevance is it's both water based questions. But I went to the canal today, and in my entire life, I have never seen it so clear. I could see the bottom of. Really? Oh, I was taking photos.

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Yeah, just this weird guy taking photos of the canal. I could see the bottom of it. Why does that happen? Because he's using the canals. They usually just brown water. Really? Typically, yeah. You could see the bottom. I could see the bottom. There's. Tell you what, it is loads around where we are or where we just see little streams that are crystal clear.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's no fish. They might be tiny like minnows or something. They'll be there. No, let me there.

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I'm sure there are tiny, but I'm talking about millimeter millimeters of water. Like. And it just doesn't go up or down. It just consistently runs. And so this in the village where we live, there's a road and then there's a row of houses, and then there's this gap that they have built around. And the stream just runs down this gap in the middle of the right.

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Well, on the side of the road, it's the same in Froom. There's a natural stream that runs down the middle of the pavement, and they've just created this gully and then built around the gully is just a just a strip. And you can see the water in the middle of the pavement going down to the running down into the town center.

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There must be a lot of that. Yeah, I like that. That's nice. Yeah, yeah. It's not like a thing of like, I like it when, nature is incorporated. Not like, diverted or shunned. Yeah. Redirected. Lay in the middle of the town, give it its own pavement. There. Go on. Yeah. Lovely stuff. It's nice. Do you know what we're talking today?

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Pubs? Yeah. Pop culture. Yeah. My, before we kick this off, I sent you a voice note. Oh, and I think I think the, the voice. No, it's it will light a fire under the pot. Now, the voice note is from a gentleman called Shaun Kray. He's a UK battle rapper. Find him on Instagram at Shaun underscore Kray.

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And that's Kray with a K. You see his first media viral video. I'm not going to spoil it for you. It's. He's in a battle rap jam tarts in a box. Mr. Kipling.

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Yeah. My I, I might say that I might genuinely say that 16 times a day. Fucking bars, mate. It's so good. It's so good. You're too thick to fit in a giant hearts in a box like Mr. Kipling. Yeah, man. Oh, shit. I'm playing this. I'm playing it. Sorry. My bad, my bad, I got, I got, I got so carried away by just thinking about the bars.

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I'll be doing something. All right, here we go again.

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I love pop culture. The pub to me is the little utopia where anything that's going on outside of that pub doesn't matter anymore. You put your phones away. It's all about those four walls. My people that feel it. I can sit at a table in a pub with anybody, man or woman. Whatever age you sit down and you just chat to that person.

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You know, if you sit next to that same person on the train or a bus, you don't say a word. They sit down at your table with the pub and you speak to her more than you speak to your missus. I want to say a pub with a dartboard, pool table, banter. It's, It's somewhere where time doesn't even matter anymore.

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It's all about who's brand is and how much you pot you got left. You tell you. Mrs.. You're going to be over at 10:00. That means 12:00. And you don't even feel bad because it wasn't a lie when you said it. It's just the way it goes. That's the pub. You're in there. Time flies. What? A landlord who walks around the pub shakes everyone's and remembers what?

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Their usual ways. I don't want a pub that's full of dinner tables and Sunday roasts and everything. You have pork scratchings and a packet of crisps and you have a good pint. Who's a good, lively head on it? Guinness. And I saw it eight. It's simple. The sticky carpets, music playing in the background. I don't like a band.

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I don't like the live music. I think that should be grouped at its own thing. I want to have crappy music playing in the background, just quiet enough. It doesn't interfere with your conversations. And I'm a happy chappy. Is 100% spot on. Yeah. Spot on. We've done the podcast on British culture before, and I don't know if we mentioned pubs we might have done, but that in a traditional British pub, English pub and I, you know, Irish pub in Scotland, wherever you are, I know I've got to say in Scotland I've been in the worst pub I've ever been in in my life.

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We can talk about that in a second. Honestly, hands down the worst place I've ever been anywhere. I can see it now in my mind's eye. No, the he's right. He's like this. Our cult, part of British culture lives in the pub. Yeah. It's one of the greatest places on earth. If you find a good one, it can also be one of the scariest places on Earth.

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Yes. I mean, I've had some awful experiences in pubs. Yes, I've seen pubs been turned over by 6 or 7 men having a brawl or being in pubs, where, windows have come through. So it, it's, it's, it's just, it's an amazing sort of what do you call it, environment, I guess, where everything and anything goes on.

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But at its best, it's there's nowhere else I'd rather be. What's your what's your idea of a great pub? Right, right. Okay. So with pubs you get many different things, right? And there is no right and there's no wrong. There's a lot of wrong. I think I've got some problems. Yes. So, like, where do you stand with, like, pop carpets?

00:19:44:24 – 00:20:10:21
Some people are like, you know, when you're going to pop carpet and it's a bit sticky and it's like, you know, all it can tell you some stories is blood, bloodstains on there. The design is awful, the curtains are awful. But that's what a pub is. What it's like this weird, decadent type trying to be, a throwback to it being like, you know, a red velvet curtain or whatever, but actually it's horrible.

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It stinks of cigarette from the 70s. But there is a local, there's a pub called The Cavalier where we are, and it used to be called the Gay Cavalier. The Gay Cavalier is built. Gay Cavalier. Right. But they just changed it to the Cavalier because, you know, maybe they didn't want it. People to think it was like a gay pub.

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When I say the gay cavalier just means a happy cavalier, right? It's a happy. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't want to change it. They did change it. But anyway, that is your archetypal shit pub, right? It's, it's in the middle of a car park. It's flat roof or flat roof, and it's where local people drink. You go in there, there's net curtains, can't see, and they,

00:20:56:06 – 00:21:25:02
Yeah. So. And the beer is okay. It's all right. It's not great. But you think, how does that survive if pubs are shutting down everywhere, how is the Cavalier surviving? Because it is the center of the community. It's where local people who live in that area, not just in Devizes. I'm talking about super hyper local. They meet in that pub and they share stories, and they be with one another in the pub and they know each other and they speak to each other.

00:21:25:02 – 00:21:46:11
Everything that Sean was saying goes on in this pub, which, in any other normal circumstance, you wouldn't set foot in a dive. But but it has something as a magic, as a pool table where people are playing on it has tiny little booths where people sit in, it has a fire. It's with two old dogs nearly dead that walk around.

00:21:46:13 – 00:22:11:14
That's a bad dream. Yeah. I've got these dogs are they're fucking decrepit. Stinky. But yeah. When. Yeah, yeah. Cool. When I was younger, I, my pub, my local. I suppose it would have been by local where I was living, where we grew up. And it's now. What's it called now? It's called the Kensington now. Yeah.

00:22:11:16 – 00:22:38:02
It used to be called the grebe. My mates, one of the gunners mum used to work there. Yeah. So it was this pub was our first. You know, when you're on that kind of the precipice of teenager to, being legalized to drink. You go in a pub, but 1415 is still chancing it and they're like, May you 14 fuck off.

00:22:38:04 – 00:23:03:12
And then you go and then you're 15. You've got a couple of facial hair sprouting. They know you're under age, but yeah, but you're like, I used to be like, you're ready. You're ready to be a man and have your first pint. And then you go there and you get served and you with all your schoolmates, you're hanging around there, you've got no money, you've got a bit money for beer, maybe a bowl of, chips or whatever.

00:23:03:14 – 00:23:30:08
Yeah, but when we used to go there, like all the girls that we used to hang around with, they used to come along as well. The people in the year above used to drink there and then all the different collection of different people of the community. You got the guy who's a painter decorator. It comes in every single time, every single day at 5:00, absolutely caked in paint.

00:23:30:10 – 00:24:08:12
And then you've got other people, builders and brickies, and then you've got the other people, and there's always someone in the pub, they're barred, but they're still allowed in, like, well, you've got dealers in there, you've got like loads of different people milling about. And I think someone, actually someone actually wrote in and this really kind of, typifies what I'm trying to say, being able to pop in and knowing that there'd be someone that you can sit and have a pint with wouldn't matter if it was one of the young lads or an 80 year old geezer.

00:24:08:16 – 00:24:32:23
They'd always be someone that now. Yeah, gone. Well, I was just going to rant about going for about five minutes describing why I love my local pub. But is this the same? Yeah, yeah, go, go for it. Yeah. So I've just moved to a new village. I know in the local pub last time was called the Rose and Crown I think, or something like that.

00:24:33:00 – 00:24:47:11
And it was, it wasn't very nice. I never used to go in there. I didn't feel like I wanted to go in there. Yeah, but it was again, it served the local community. The pub I've got now is probably one of my favorite pubs I've ever been in, and it's like literally 20s from my front door. Fuck off.

00:24:47:16 – 00:25:06:23
What they say in a Cavalier though, is it? No, no no, I in Devizes, this is in where I live now, but I won't, I won't say where won't dogs. Yeah. No, because if I say the name of the pub, you literally have to find where I lived. That's a little bit. I might have said enough previously for people to work out anyway.

00:25:06:23 – 00:25:35:23
But anyway, when I walked past here on Christmas Eve, this pub was rammed. Everybody in the village had walked, left their home and walked arm in arm. Couples, kids, dogs that walked to this pub. It's almost like the entire village had left their homes just to meet each other in this pub. The windows were steamed up. It was rammed.

00:25:35:23 – 00:25:54:16
Rick. It was, it was. It was such a beautiful thing to see. And I, I really wanted to go in, but we're just moving into the house. It's Christmas Eve. Mum was coming over and stuff like that, so I just didn't get a chance to do it. But next year I'm going to go. You go in and it's a local family that run the pub.

00:25:54:18 – 00:26:12:22
They've got a great day in there. Just strolls around the, roundabout with all the rain. Oh right. You, oh you sit, you waiting for your beer and he comes up and just gives you a little nudge in the side because he's like the size I over my hip. And you've got to throw him. Yeah. A pint of Guinness is sensational.

00:26:12:22 – 00:26:31:20
So that was a great thing. Oh and you go in there and there's always someone in there. There's a group of men at the end, old men. And they're in there every day. And they give you a little nod as you come in. And I often just go in there and sit down with a pint on my own, you know, just look out.

00:26:31:21 – 00:26:54:17
Now. The view is of rolling countryside out the back, like, oh, you look out and there's just this incredible view of the countryside. And I was like, this is the fucking best place on earth. And it's literally 220 20s from a front door quality pub, the the description of everyone and kind of walking arm and arm, Christmas.

00:26:54:18 – 00:27:17:09
So it was love that dogs and oh, look how beautiful. Kind of like poetic on the Christmas Eve to do that as a community and still going to your local boozer and everyone knowing each other. And I could you can imagine that people be kind of in that jovial, joyous mood because it's Christmas Eve and man, like in, like where I live there.

00:27:17:13 – 00:27:40:21
I mean, you've got you've got old boozers, you've got a couple of really fucking old boozers, because where I live is, in Wolverton, where I live, it's a, it's a really old town. Well, I don't know if you call it a town, but it's a really old place anyway, incorporated into Milton Keynes. So it's been here for fucking donkey's years.

00:27:40:23 – 00:28:07:13
Not proper Victorian. So they are like, it has that history and that oldness to these pubs. You can tell when you're going and the décor and how they're decked out and all that. Not once called the Queen Vic. And the other is the Western, I think is, is a bit of fucking rough, roughest. But it's like those kind of they're almost like institutions, aren't I?

00:28:07:15 – 00:28:20:14
And it's not as fairytale as what you were saying, but it's kind of like the cornerstone of this community. Everyone knows the Queen Vic. Not everyone. And everyone goes in there.

00:28:20:16 – 00:28:48:00
But like when I was growing up and that pop that I mentioned, the Grebe Kensington, it wasn't quite a flat roof pop, but like in its design. But it's a new age, a state pub, get a new estate, got a put a pub on it, very modern and stuff like that. And although, like you have your locals and stuff that are there and any time that I mean even I wasn't like, I'm not a, you know, a, like a locals, right?

00:28:48:00 – 00:29:10:12
I'm like getting this mixed up, a publican, is that someone that just goes to pubs, or is it someone that runs pubs and runs pub? So but when I go in there, I can, there'll be someone that I will know or like be mates of mates with. And that's the thing I love about like going into a pub.

00:29:10:17 – 00:29:41:10
But even if I meet my mates in that pub, they're going to be grouped with people that when we were fucking younger and they are still in there. But yeah, it's just that whole community feel and vibe to it that you get no other place. I mean, like obviously if you go to a like the football, but like in your local community somewhere where you can just pop in and have a pint and just chat, shit keeps people alive like it's not you.

00:29:41:11 – 00:30:05:21
It's like a lifeline for a lot of people, you know, especially old boys like you. Ever see the old boys at the bottom of the bar and he's drinking. He's reading the Racing Post. And what that cliche, that's what. What's like for the Americans who may not have been able to come to England. And if you do do some research and find some good pubs like don't like, there are good pubs and there are bad pubs, in my opinion, or there are pubs of exploiting the culture to some degree.

00:30:05:23 – 00:30:27:23
Yeah, pubs that you can only standing. I have a massive issue, like they're just you, they're all standing room tables. Right. They come out to your chest or whatever. You. Yeah, you stand around because they want to put seats and chairs in because it's takes up floor space. Playing really loud, obnoxious music. Like Sean said a minute ago, the music's too loud.

00:30:27:24 – 00:30:47:09
You can't hear each other. They've done it wrong. If you live bands, he's right as well. 100%, unless it's a specific evening. But a guy. Wherever the band on tonight, that's fine. So you can choose not to go all or go and karaoke in a pub is fucking. It's fucking great bad karaoke. Yeah. I mean, it's like you say, if it's Friday night.

00:30:47:09 – 00:31:05:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want to do it? It's fine. It's a laugh. Right. It generally I jukebox I'm fine with like a jukebox. You can people can put on music they like. That's that's cool. I find that I think that's good. But you need a good pop is one that you kind of, you you you're able to sit down in.

00:31:05:04 – 00:31:11:07
It's cozy and. Well, I can't remember. I was talking about. Why did I start this?

00:31:11:09 – 00:31:39:00
I don't know if I got lost in the idea of what I thought knows me. I know that I'm sorry. I don't want to go back on to, one thing. About what? Sean said. Oh. You were talking about standing room in pubs. You don't. Not pubs that, have seats, pubs, gastro pubs, pubs where it's all about food like I don't, I understand, I was just about to say, like, am I in a pub or am I in a restaurant?

00:31:39:01 – 00:31:57:16
Like, I know this is going to be when I talk about pub and I will talking about Americans coming over, like looking, looking, looking out for a proper pub. That's what I was talking about. Find a pub that. And there there's lots of them in the city, down little corners. You'll find them proper little pubs, lovely, lovely boozers.

00:31:57:18 – 00:32:16:13
Yeah. Finding the correct one is, is is perfect. And the guy at the end of the bar, that's what I was talking about, right. That community and they're lifelines to people that have lost partners of feel lonely that the pub is there for them. They come in, they sit their out wherever it might be, and people talk to them.

00:32:16:15 – 00:32:43:20
And there's communication. Like there may be that this sort of idea that this is for people to just to get pierced or, you know, a way to escape from, from, from reality or whatever. But that and that is definitely it. But for a lot of people, it keeps them. It keeps them alive, like every, every pub will have a bloke or a local pub will have a bloke at the end of the bar reading the Racing Post and having a drink.

00:32:44:00 – 00:33:10:10
And he is. That communication keeps him alive and it's and it's important and it's. I've been really annoyed at the, generally pretty annoyed at Kate's thought Keir Starmer but and Rachel Reeves. But this taxing of pubs is in just so blindsided in my opinion. I get this some pubs, very wealthy people running pubs, they can afford, the tax rises and all that shit.

00:33:10:12 – 00:33:34:00
There are lots of pubs that can't that are crucial for local community and that they will potentially have to shut down if these tax rises aren't reversed in some way. I think they are to come out this morning that they are going to reverse them, but I don't know what that was. They're changing the business rates for pubs, so they end up having to pay over 100% more than they're paying now.

00:33:34:02 – 00:33:58:24
Oh fucking hell, they might not. You know I your how important this is for people. Local people. I don't know yet what you were saying. The the Racing Post guy or there was a million different types of old kind of character that's in a boozer. And yet there will be some that are maybe alcoholics or whatever.

00:33:59:01 – 00:34:26:19
They're there, but there are some in there that don't go there every single day or every single evening, whatever it might be. And they're not there to be getting pissed or because they're alcoholics, they'll have like 2 or 3 beers and it will be really long down. It's not like they're necking it on a Friday night, fucking ready to get ballocks to whatever it would be long kind of, rule out pint.

00:34:26:21 – 00:34:58:14
And they like you saying not that their partner may have, died or split up, or they might be lonely or whatever. And for those people sitting at the end of the bar and you walk in, you go, you are John. How's it going? It's like, yeah, yeah. Is it go in and there's just this tiny bit of dialog where you're picking out enough details and you see them regularly enough that keeps them going, that that little bit of social interaction, interaction, that otherwise, what would they be doing to be in their front room watching TV in silence?

00:34:58:16 – 00:35:23:14
And so that's why I feel so strongly about pubs and pop culture. Like I, I remember my, my mate celebrated his 18th birthday in, the, our kind of, pop the the grape. And it was, it is. I aim for 21st. I can't remember anyway, but we used to have celebrations there. Whether it was a, you know, wedding.

00:35:23:14 – 00:35:46:15
The baby's head. Do that down the boozer, someone's birthday, down the boozer. You know, all these different kind of, moments that you share. And it isn't just with your mates that you go to the pub with. It's everyone part of that community and everyone that you see regularly down there. And they would buy you a pint. Well, how about offering you've seen in a pub?

00:35:46:16 – 00:36:33:21
Oh, God. I wouldn't say it's been, particularly mental, but I do remember, police once arrest someone in a pub a. Oh, fuck me. Do you know what? That totally slipped my mind. That's. Yeah. Yeah, that is probably said that's one of two that I'll say. So, when I was again at this pub, the grape, I was in the beer garden, and it was during Football World Cup or something like that, and we'd noticed that, there was a, there was a police car that had pulled up next to the beer garden, and then another one pulled up, and then this kind of big riot van pulled up.

00:36:34:00 – 00:36:59:12
Like, that's a bit fucking weird. And it anyway just carried on about that. Then all of a sudden all the doors fly open. Some guy comes racing out with a German shepherd fucking going mental that on one side of the boozer, another one comes out down the other side of the boozer. Another police officer with a gun jumps up and he's on the kind of brick wall looking over the beer garden.

00:36:59:14 – 00:37:24:16
We're not fuck, man, I'm not what's going on? Not like what's happening. Then loads of plays stormed in and there's two lads that were sitting in the pub. One of them was on, I think he was on, tag and the other one had was supposed to turn up for something and never did. And they, you know, obviously splat to the floor, arms behind their back, loads of in.

00:37:24:16 – 00:37:37:06
And like when they came in it was like out of a film like everyone had on a table. Now, no sudden movements. Everyone shut up, shut up. Shout out.

00:37:37:08 – 00:37:56:01
Luckily my mate filmed it, underneath. And I've got the video somewhere. And I know you've been listening to this. Send me the video. Because if I can't find it, just send me the video. I'll post on Patreon for a post on discord. It is fucking wild. But yeah, I mean, that is. And the thing is.

00:37:56:01 – 00:38:21:23
Right? Because we're so used to seeing stuff in, you know, in England. But I'll be honest, like, I see a lot of wild stuff in America where people are getting shot by accident or, you know, things, incidences that are happening when these dudes ran in and they had guns. And I'm thinking if I like, I don't know, I dropped my lighter, I went to pick it up.

00:38:21:23 – 00:38:44:02
I could get pinged, you know, like all these mental things are running through my head, like just staying calm. Hand on the table, shit myself. It's my little fucking Stevie little pub now. I've been there since I was 14. I've no idea what's happening. That is one of the mental, if not the most mental thing. Number two, actually, I've got free numbers.

00:38:44:04 – 00:39:07:11
Two. This didn't happen at the pub, but I can remember. I know, been with you, actually, but, where landlords and what, you know, landlords, the landlords make a pop rating as well, whether they know your name, whether they're comfortable with you, whether they're not just cunts walking with you on a power trip, like, you should be, you know, that still should be at that table.

00:39:07:11 – 00:39:27:09
Might bring it back like, oh, that's. Oh, yeah. One thing, but yeah, but there's some landlords where, you know that people are in that and there are like, you know, people are doing gear in the toilet. So not just fucking do it on the table. Discreet about would be discreet about it, but bad luck in the wee wee.

00:39:27:14 – 00:39:56:19
There was a pub near us, in Devizes, where it gets to 11:00, and obviously the family with just a bunch of piss heads, and it was basically like an old antique shop brick. Everything was for sale in there. You could buy it. Yeah. And it was just stacked with loads of stuff. And then it just tables, and it, it comes to 11:00 and the blinds are just come down daubed lot and then everyone's to start tanning cigarettes inside.

00:39:56:21 – 00:40:13:21
Gear would come out and but this is yes, a nice pub you didn't get on the tables. It was just like we couldn't wait for 11:00 to come, like last order. So they shut the door. And that was a good part of the in terms of that. The, do you remember of Torrington in. Yeah. Shit pub. Right.

00:40:13:21 – 00:40:35:04
Shit pub. But we've been there all the time. And it's Main Goon. A pub is still there. Now, anybody who's lived in and around North London will not have toilet and arms on the corner of Toilet and Road, right near the Arsenal ground. Anyway, we live near there, so that would be our local. And he cut the doors off the toilets so that people wouldn't do.

00:40:35:04 – 00:41:04:07
Yeah. In, in, in the toilet. Like they can lose. If people are doing drugs on the premises, they can lose their license to be to be fair. Right. So he's serious. But he was so against it that the, the toilet doors were essentially about two foot tall. So you could have a piss. You couldn't really have a pub because people would look over the door just to show to the you probably had a warning or something from the brewery and the police.

00:41:04:09 – 00:41:28:07
So just show he'd done everything he could to stop people taking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What somebody saying you've seen in the pub? I mean, I'm not. I can't think of anything like it's crazy, but into, like, fighting and stuff like that. Like, I remember we were out together. I think it was one we did, like a fight and coughing and I think we were watching the boxing somewhere.

00:41:28:09 – 00:41:47:10
I was pretty mangled again, the two blokes behind us going to a massive ruck, he's got chucked out and then about five minutes later we just smashed through the doors and jumped on this case and it just like smashed them to pieces. We had it was the characters really. I used to got my brother's mates quite a lot.

00:41:47:12 – 00:42:02:02
And, you'll remember this because, one of them was just called One Punch. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Every time we get into a row, it would be settled with one punch. He'd just knock them out, basically. But,

00:42:02:04 – 00:42:07:21
Just having a nickname like that. One punch. Justin.

00:42:07:23 – 00:42:27:09
Kept knocking men out. You also used. So. Yeah. Also, what was also great about a pub, and I think there's a lot wrong with, our youth. Right. As we get to our age, we're always criticized. The generation below us. Right? It's the way it goes. Our parents criticized our generation. It was a lost generation. Language changed all that stuff.

00:42:27:09 – 00:42:50:11
Right? So it's natural, but I genuinely think the younger people would be better behaved if they spent more time in pubs, because the pubs we grew up in, we all grew up in. You learned how to behave, you learned what was acceptable and what wasn't acceptable. You learned the how much you can get away with and how much you need to be aware of.

00:42:50:13 – 00:43:13:14
You also learn about reading the room. Like what? Sensing trouble? Sensing when something going to be a problem. Yeah, yeah, you have your wits about you. You learn all that through osmosis in the pub. You absorb this knowledge without even knowing it. Like if you, if you. There was some pubs that we used to go into the Lord Palmerston in Holloway as well.

00:43:13:16 – 00:43:34:24
If you if you got cheeky to someone, you'd get a slap like some. You would be checked if you knew that, if you'd gone too far. The kids now, because it's too expensive, they don't want to go into pubs like my, my, my daughter Chloe. She said she's going to be 18 soon. She's been into a pub with her friends once.

00:43:35:01 – 00:44:07:23
Once in her life. Wow. It's it's, So do you think that is, that the dying of, Okay. Right. Forget the tax bit for a minute, but the dawn of the pub, the gradual dying of pub, which people are talking about now, is it down to the price of beer? And because, like, I remember going in and it's like free pound 25 or whatever for a pint and now.

00:44:08:00 – 00:44:35:10
Yeah. When those uni is a pound. Yeah. I remember going up to someone's uni Sheffield pound a pint. Yeah. Fucking mental. But like going into a pub now to get a pint. You're looking at £77. 657 easy eight. Don't even, don't even paranoid. But I know I did, you know, I went to, a boozer the other day.

00:44:35:12 – 00:44:55:17
I went out for my, like, Christmas drinks and a bowl around. So how many is it? 1 to 4 of us around. And it was like 23 or 24 pound. That's like fucking ass at right touch website. Well, cheap. It's is the, it was, like it was, the cock hotel in Estonia. I think it is.

00:44:55:19 – 00:45:20:13
They got that shit. Yeah. Very cheap. Yeah. It is a cheap I don't know. So it's a really nice kind of old world to do hotel as well I think. Pub. Hotel. I think Ricky the. It's definitely the price. Like my how who, what 18 year old kid can drop seven isn't working. You have to know 1877 18 year old kids are working now because they have to be in education or training.

00:45:20:17 – 00:45:42:16
Taylor 18. Yeah, as per the government. So they don't have money if they could be in an apprenticeship potentially, but you could spend your wages and then we spank their wages in the pub like I would. Yeah. Oh my money we got in a pub and other bits to me. So it's, it's been a long, long time tradition of losing all your money in the pub.

00:45:42:18 – 00:45:57:19
No, not a great one, I suppose, but, or like how I would think what I'm going to do is I'm going to win all my money in the pub. Well, the fruit I've got, I've got a 10 pound. I'm going to put on this for you. I can hear it ticking. That's one of the key signs.

00:45:57:19 – 00:46:35:06
You can, you can when I, when I put the pound in the. Can you hear it drop. Yeah you can drop it. You get outside 10 pound guys in you. You said you already dropped. Yeah. Yeah. It's Yes. Like it's, well, like the kind of, social aspect, like our kids now they grow up and they are watching, you know, they're communicating on Snapchat, TikTok, Insta, and like, all through games like, fucking the other day that I'm not even talking.

00:46:35:06 – 00:46:56:04
And I can hear so many different conversations. My daughter's on a voice, voice kind of, cool with all her mates. My other daughter is as well, and I'm bowling right. Mass and all fucking voice is going off. But that's how they that's how they communicate and that's how they are that night hang out, I guess. But they're all in their own home.

00:46:56:04 – 00:47:22:11
Communities exist online, doesn't it? For, for for a lot of kids, they don't knit. They get that connection with people through gaming and and sort of VoIP or all this conversation. Yeah, yeah. Whereas back there would be the time with all these conversations, deals were being done in pubs and conversations would be having friendships would be made. And it was like a physical thing where they don't feel the need to do it anymore.

00:47:22:13 – 00:47:42:06
So yeah, it's like and like, like you say, you have your mates, that you go to the pubs and stuff like that, but the oh my. So like in therapy sessions, pubs back in the day, like people you wouldn't really, turn and talk to, I don't know, you know your wife about something but you'd go down the pub and have a few and you chat to the geezer about, oh, my wife's.

00:47:42:08 – 00:48:07:13
And then, you know, you you kind of have that, that conversation. And with kids now I just, I just think they get it from elsewhere. Yeah. They, they, they have, a different way of doing. They're also not drinking typically. No. Exactly. Do you think like drinking culture has changed? Yeah. But when we used to go out, we used to just go out and get fucking like parallel.

00:48:07:15 – 00:48:28:01
It was, it was not the kind of the, the aim of the game was to go out and get the fuck out every Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I couldn't imagine my, my kids, I know they're only like 12 and 14, but it feels like there's been a mindset change. There's been, you know, the gym guys and all of that stuff and healthy mindset.

00:48:28:01 – 00:48:51:03
And I don't know, it just doesn't feel like, the pub has a place for the youngsters anymore. No, I don't think they, there is a place for them really. And they will they will die out or unless they find a way of attracting young people. It's not the well, I see. I don't know if they die out.

00:48:51:03 – 00:49:19:23
It's just maybe when, like, they, they meet around each other's houses and drink now rather than going to the pub. Yeah. And I think a lot of people are drinking at home rather than going to the pub. So yeah, maybe, maybe it will in time shift everything shifts. Yeah. And during Covid as well, there was a huge, kind of uptick in people converting their garages to pubs, like, you know, that, you know.

00:49:20:01 – 00:49:51:10
Oh yeah, I've got a bar, my garden now and blah blah blah, and people would rather go around their mate's house to these kind of makeshift pubs because they could get up to whatever they could listen to, whatever. But it's far more comfortable in that. But that social element is gone. That element of, the unpredictability of a pub of who's going to be in there, what's going to happen, you know, what news and what banner and all that, like, but yeah, I tell, I do, it makes me want to go to a pub now.

00:49:51:12 – 00:50:20:14
There's nothing more I would love. Right, for us to go to a pub like midday meal as well. So you've got the entire day in front of, you know, fighting cock social, you know, contest, like, no football, no work, no anything. Yeah. Just men drinking beer, all being pork scratchings. You can laugh at me playing pool.

00:50:20:16 – 00:50:50:05
At the game of darts. Get the tunes going on the old, jukebox. Just not do anything. We, we are really close with the house now, so we can make that reality. Oh. We'll have the pub, and then we can crash at my house, and, we'll do it. And we could even go for a walk if some frequents the.

00:50:50:07 – 00:51:12:00
No, I do. You'd like, naked? There is nothing I'd love more. And I've been doing this with, with the owners of, like, going for, like, a big 2 to 3 hour walk, stomping around farmer's field, really kind of working your body and then going back to a boozer, getting a bit off, getting a bit of food to refuel.

00:51:12:02 – 00:51:41:07
That that first pint. Yeah. Right. Guinness, whatever it is. And you, when you have a couple of sips, it's like proper gloves. 4 or 5 real big fucking. There is nothing better like when you get into a pub actually that first pint. Why is it that first pint is like, it's like you're drinking freedom. It's it's like, oh mate, it hit so different and then you're chasing that for the rest of the night.

00:51:41:09 – 00:51:58:17
I think it's because you know that you're away from whatever problems or issues or, you know, whatever you're going for, you just, you know, you're not sure what I'm saying. You drop everything at the front door in a pub. Yeah. You have a beer. You with you, mate. You have a good time. I like what you said about the fucking tell you.

00:51:58:21 – 00:52:14:05
This is going to be back at ten. You're back at midnight. But the thing is, you meant it when you said it is that it's all right. Well, I guess you got to the point when we used to go out, like, I wouldn't say a time, I say like I, you know, whatever time I say, I probably won't be back at that time.

00:52:14:07 – 00:52:37:02
Yeah. And my ex missus used to go meant with me. Lives should be. Ring me up at 4 a.m. in the morning. I'll be in someone's flat doing gear. All right. And the West one was, I went, we I went, we went out for a night out, and with one punch and it's me and him. And he'd been seeing this bird in Crouch End.

00:52:37:02 – 00:52:57:21
So that's why I went back with him, because I was living by. And we went into his flat and they went there and we just went to the counter, and we just poured all the drugs we had on all of us in a big pile. All right. All of that has got to be done before we leave. It was and the on there, there was, like loads of gear and stuff.

00:52:58:02 – 00:53:27:05
Nonetheless, I'm not celebrating. It's I would never do this now. I wouldn't have thought of that gives me shudders now. Right. But it was. Yeah. Yeah. And and they would put just in with justice because we Yeah, yeah. You never be alone again. So come on, come on, come on, come on. So come on do such a tune.

00:53:27:07 – 00:53:56:12
And we were dancing around to that and that and that was mangled. And as I'm going to shower, I had a lot of shower. And what, you ran some of the salads house that you just that I'm going to have a shower. Yeah. You know, like when you got ended up, everything feels like a good idea. And they had underfloor heating, so I'd had a shower and I was lying in a towel on their, in their bedroom on the floor of this underfloor heating.

00:53:56:14 – 00:54:17:16
Yeah. And, and then they turned up, the girls turned on and my Mrs. Roman, that's the point. My Mrs. rung me about. Oh. For she's a where are you? And I was, I'm still out. You coming? No. Not yet. No. Yeah. Yeah, probably not yet. Why? I'm having a good time. Yeah. Where's my missus now?

00:54:17:16 – 00:54:37:20
The irony of this is my missus wouldn't bat an eyelid. Now. She says she wouldn't even eat. She would. She'd call if she was worried for I was dead or something, obviously. But she just I would just. Do we want fun? Like you're an adult. Do you want light? Like it was the same with, like, eating food, like I got caught.

00:54:37:21 – 00:54:42:22
I didn't want to get caught eating food late at night for some reason.

00:54:42:24 – 00:54:55:06
I think it's like a weird hang up from a previous relationship. I don't want to get caught making the sandwich up at 12 at night for anybody.

00:54:55:08 – 00:55:19:00
Like why? Where does that come from? I think it's a creep around the kitchen. I think they went on. Got some bread. It's, so funny. Good. I could just imagine you not just creeping, rather opening the fridge at the suction of the fridge. You know, most people, but most people trying not to do, like, get caught doing gear, or watching porn or something.

00:55:19:00 – 00:55:36:17
I'm trying not get caught making a sandwich. And my missus, like you're in. This is your house. You're an adult if you want to have a sandwich. Offers 12 fucking sandwich. Up to you. She's the most chilled out person I've ever met, right? Well, I married a part of the reason why. Murder. She's so relaxed. You have a sandwich.

00:55:36:17 – 00:56:08:02
Go. Go on. Almost to relax now. I wouldn't I don't want to do that. I don't want to be at someone's flats 4 a.m. in the morning, and I. I just it gives me the fear, the thought of it. Nothing makes me more fucking, No, no, no, no, thank you. Right. What we're going to do, we are going to move on to, dilemmas and something only, you know, the topic for next week is making friends in your 30s and 40s.

00:56:08:04 – 00:56:33:22
With Covid and social media, people have never felt more disconnected. Like we're just seen in the pub chat, lonely or unable to meet new people. Putting yourself out there where and how to meet people me and flat met on on a forum. So there you go. And what it is where? Scared of them, scared of making trying to make new friends and getting over social anxiety.

00:56:33:24 – 00:57:09:22
So that is going to be the topic for next week. You can email or listen to lads anon pod at gmail.com. We've already had a couple of emails about this, making friends because there are people that, you know, ladies that are single that, have child and their life is consumed by bringing up their child, and then their mates have kind of got more distant and they are isolated and they don't really know what to do.

00:57:09:23 – 00:57:30:21
Yeah. Who to go out with stuff like that. And exactly the same with guys either Covid and stuff. Their mates have kind of gone in different directions. They moved out of the city, whatever, and people are kind of just stuck or have these relationships on social media, but they can't do that extra part and connect or not how to meet people.

00:57:30:21 – 00:57:53:12
So flap and I will be discussing that, and we'd like to hear some of your stories too. So send it into lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. We are going to be moving on to dilemma, so I'll just tell you. Got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad cause Cat will give you an icon in your soul, alone in your flat.

00:57:53:16 – 00:58:09:12
Please talk to Ricky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to be like you're safe here to get nice warm between Ricky and and.

00:58:09:14 – 00:58:12:06

00:58:12:08 – 00:58:37:19
Mind the gap. I'm turning 18 in January, and she'd be turning 17 in August. But after speaking to friends, they agree morally that it is okay for UK law. It is legal, but I'd like the lad's advice for more context. I'm not dating this person, but I need to know if I should cut things off before it becomes a relationship.

00:58:37:21 – 00:59:07:24
I put my if I put myself in the shoes of if I was a parent, would I be okay with my daughter dating somebody with this age gap? And I honestly don't know. I'd say it depends on the person after speaking to them. Okay, so this person is turning 18 in January and she's turning 17 in August. And there is the issue of so I guess she's 16.

00:59:08:01 – 00:59:29:02
Yeah, she's 16. Needs to be 18 for a little bit. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for a little bit less houses the balance. Well morally it's flat. Yeah. That's what I mean. That is what fun. Chill out. What if that's it. Yeah it's absolutely fine. There's a reason why the law makes it fine. Because this happens all the time.

00:59:29:04 – 00:59:57:22
Especially with girls when they're 16. Mentally, they are a further along than boys at 1,600%. When you're a younger girls always day older always. Yeah. And so yeah, I mean it's horrible that you're going to have to think about that risk. But mate, when when I was younger I remember my sister at 14, 15 around those ages. And some of the people she used to date.

00:59:57:24 – 01:00:23:11
Thinking back to it now, man, that's not that is fucking wrong. 14 you're fucking your child at 14. You're, you're I see, I I'm around close friends. They come to the house and I drop them off at school. These are children. There's nothing. There is nothing attractive about a 14 year old girl. Nine. Unless you're a pedo.

01:00:23:13 – 01:00:46:08
Unless you're unless you're unless you got some weird sexual orientation. There is absolutely nothing attractive about an 18 year old girl to me. I look, I think you look so young and it's weird. If you're 30 and you're dating an 18 year old. I don't care what you say. It's fucking weird. You're weird. Yeah. There's something your your tastes means you like young girls, basically.

01:00:46:08 – 01:01:12:18
And, you know, in a modern society, having a young girl as a daughter, you're fucking creepy. That's what I think. Yeah. When you. When you said that, I just wanted to go 1.8 65 GT, I got a job. It's like I get to go. I'm point eight turbo. Good. So bad.

01:01:12:20 – 01:01:41:00
Yeah, I, what's the. You is. No saying you chop. Yeah. So you'll find me. Is the fact that you're conscious of this is actually a nice thing? Yeah, exactly. And what I will say is, if you are, you're both young, and as you're saying, she's 16 as well. If this is a thing to just things that go, then I probably, you know, stay clear of that.

01:01:41:00 – 01:02:03:20
But if it's a relationship that you can see building and stuff, because this is more than likely going to be yours and her first love, whatever. So just be, you know, careful on what it is that you want to get out of this. But the ice thing, like, why is it like I always say, why is it weird that, like, we look at age like, I don't know, 16 and 18 now?

01:02:03:20 – 01:02:22:05
I guess maybe because they're not worldly, but like, if you were a 38 year old is dating a 40 year old with A2A2 year age gap, no one bats an eyelid. But when you're younger it is more of a problem. But yeah, I guess it's because they're not as miss choice but development. Yeah, development and stuff like that.

01:02:22:05 – 01:02:41:19
But yeah. No, I think if I may, I think if I one you know, I think age gap between me and my first girlfriend was exactly the same. She just I just turned 18. She just turned 17. No. Oh yeah. She was Amelia was 16 and I just turned 18. And she turned 17 in March. The following March.

01:02:41:21 – 01:03:09:01
Oh, Gary. What what what are you saying? It's not yet nuns. If you were 18 and she was 14. Yeah, maybe that's wrong. You actually got. You can go to prison for that, right? You okay? Statutory rape. Yeah. It means you'll have. Oh, God. Is is that is that what is classed under. Yeah, I think so. It's statutory rape is, even if the person is consenting consent.

01:03:09:01 – 01:03:30:12
Yeah. It's still rape because they don't they, they haven't they're not legally able to give consent. Right. Fuck. Yeah. So you can go to prison for it. And, but it's probably happening all the time. But if you much like imagine your daughter how yours now 14. Yeah. Right. And then 18 year old kid turned up. Oh my God.

01:03:30:13 – 01:03:50:23
You're like no no no no. I was like, I don't I'm not all of this sort of hating on men type thing, right? I don't do that. But I think it's overblown. I think it's damaging. I think it's reductive. All men are still more. I just think you're fucking moral if you feel that. Right. But I really wanted my daughter to be a lesbian.

01:03:51:00 – 01:03:56:24
Did you really? Oh, I just kept saying. You like, do you like girls?

01:03:57:01 – 01:04:30:07
Yeah. My boys. See, I was just leaving about page free around the house. No, nothing out and sexualizing, you know, just like, what do you think of those? Looks like chips, but no, no, I wasn't like that really was like, just saying, like, it was like encouraging the idea that basically women are generally kind of. I think you just less like, I don't know, I'd say you're less likely to get hurt or mistreated, but divorce rate in less lesbian, couples is the highest that of every every.

01:04:30:09 – 01:04:58:02
So you got a group and they. Yeah. Right. Listen to this. This is great. Right? Brought along a little bit. Sort of sexist, I guess, but still facts, right? Right. The divorce rate for a man and a woman. Is something like 50%. Okay. Right. The divorce rate between two women is something like 66%. Oh the divorce rate between two men is the lowest.

01:04:58:04 – 01:05:18:17
Is it really. What are we talking about. Is men a chill. Yeah. The minute you add a woman to it the likely it is. It's going to go tits up. I don't know, it's funny. Yeah, I guess it's just give me, give me, give me dinner. Give me a cock. Me that's a guy I wish. I mean, I don't wish because, I mean a wonderful, lovely relationship.

01:05:18:17 – 01:05:43:17
And I'm very lucky, right? Yeah, but being gay is simple in it. Yeah. Like if you are gay. If you like dick. Yeah, yeah. It's like, what? To watch football tonight. Costa. Yeah, yeah. So do you want to. I know we should do. We should buy motorcycles. Yeah. So we got a holiday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where do you want to go?

01:05:43:19 – 01:06:02:15
I want to go to bed. Well, you're out of the loop. Which one do I want to build? Yeah, we watch football, but the football will be on board football all day. And then the fact is, well, you just ashes. The ashes. Yes, yes. Oh, towards the ashes. Brilliant. And at the end of the night, to suck each other off.

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Brilliant. Yeah. It's like, what's not to like. Oh good. It, that's the tricky bit.

01:06:12:01 – 01:06:37:04
It's you keep it. Oh the rest don't. What you mean to think we can pull our incomes. You get a job, I get a job. Well, we just we can spend time alone. Since I made perfect. Brilliant, brilliant. Right. We're going to jump to something 90, you know, right now. Shit. Are we? There we go. Wow.

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Something, you know.

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I pile up in my pants, my, something I need, you know, goes back to when I was in year nine of secondary school. I'd pee on a cold Tuesday morning and felt my teeth stirring around in my stomach. Oh, T, that's got to be normal, isn't it? T staring around in my stomach from the night before. When I got to the sports hall, all the lads were sent to play football, and because I needed a shit, I asked the teacher if I could go to the toilet.

01:07:13:20 – 01:07:39:01
He said I could go once you play one more time. So I ran around for a bit, but the feeling in my stomach uncontrollably started to move downwards. When I'd reached the toilet. My school crush since the start school was was waiting in front of me in line to use the disabled toilet, since that was the only toilet in that department.

01:07:39:03 – 01:08:06:03
Whilst I was waiting next to her, she tried to start some flirty convo, but I was too distracted by the mess that was about to appear in my pants. And that was when it happened. I set that shit pile up in my pants right next to the girl as she was talking to me, but luckily two seconds after it did, she entered the bathroom, scared, scarred by the fact that she might find out by the smell.

01:08:06:03 – 01:08:35:22
When she walked out of the bathroom, I ran straight to the opposite side of the school and used the normal toilets to clean myself up, just to the point I was in good enough condition to ask to go home by faking an illness. This girl has now been my girlfriend for five years and we are thinking about starting a family together, and that is something I know a class I want to know if, like I know you're saying something only I know the she know she has to know.

01:08:35:24 – 01:09:02:09
Tell her. Does she know? Tell her I want you to do it. I want to redact it. Can you? If you haven't told her, can you video it of you telling her and then send it to us? Right. We, We we did this thing on Japan. Yeah. Podcast with James. And it was like we asked the question, why can't men just ask for a blowjob?

01:09:02:13 – 01:09:28:07
Any random part of day? It's not acceptable, right? You just can't go. Can I have a blowjob? That's a weird night. Night, I know that. Imagine, imagine, like 3:00 in the afternoon. You go up to the wife and you say, can I. Can I have a blowjob, please? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not acceptable. You never would know. I know, I mean, like, I do enough innuendo throughout the day, but not like, as a sincere.

01:09:28:10 – 01:09:42:05
Yeah, I'm just a bit horny. Can you just. Yeah. Sucking the radiator. Yeah. Exactly that. Right. It's just not etiquette. It's not cricket in England. You just don't do it at night. We challenge our audience to do it.

01:09:42:07 – 01:10:06:21
And video it and send the audience into. And, yeah, yeah, we had about 3 or 4, 3 or 4 people can, can I have in the video and hear a little about it? Can I have a blowjob? And that get me is often when what. No, it's all right. Just for an ask. And the final one said, can I have a blowjob?

01:10:07:01 – 01:10:31:24
She went, yeah, and that's where we ended it. Right. Yeah. He won. He found one. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be yeah. Our latest one challenge for our audience was, Okay. How fast could you eat 12 Cumberland sausages? And they go. And there was a bloke called John who did it in three minutes and two two seconds.

01:10:31:24 – 01:10:43:20
12. Oh, my God, it was. Oh, actually I did I did see quite a few. Keep it Cumberland. Yeah. Keep a couple of.

01:10:43:22 – 01:11:05:04
It's fucking brilliant, man. But yeah. Phil, me Sam's asking people asking you. Mrs.. That be great. But, I don't know if anyone's got the bottle to do that. Right. That'll do for this week on the pot. I hope you enjoyed, pop culture chat. The topic for next week is basically making friends in your 30s and 40s.

01:11:05:04 – 01:11:22:00
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there was. Oh my. He is still on. Sorry, but what you want. You don't want to leave it on? No no no no no, I tell you that because you might be able to hear it on the mic. Can't know if you want to be warm. You can be warm. You don't have to worry about it. Oh, lovely stuff.

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We had quite a few emails of the same thing about last week. By the way, everyone in the pod last week. Lots of wonderful comments. Thank you very much. Seems like a lot of people enjoyed the pop culture chat. Not so much the people that were doing Dry January because they were absolutely gagging for a bit. I mean, listen to that.

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But nobody got to hear your story about the worst pub in Scotland. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah. No. So I went up to. I went up to Scotland for some reason. It was my up my mate and Biden's big Rangers fan. So I went up to Scotland to just these showed me around Glasgow and where he grew up and governance and stuff.

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And we're not drinking quite a lot. I always wanted to go up there anyway. He he said, let's go and watch a Rangers game. And and the Rangers were playing Aberdeen and there is a Rangers pub, which you could call it a pub. It was essentially a square breeze block building that it was painted what, blue, white and red.

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No windows. It's a just a bar in there and then crammed full of sweaters. And. Yeah, just just just just no natural light. Everything sort of painted with a hand brush. Just. It was just like it facility that they put up, you know, to fit as many Rangers fans in the before game as possible. And you go outside.

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And it was just that brick yard, which was the garden, goats and and the cats here. My London accent. What are you doing there? And I went, just come with my mate and he goes, you support? And I was like, Spurs. And they were playing Aberdeen, obviously Spurs and Aberdeen of this thing. So they were like, you're in the wrong fucking pub on your.

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And I'm like, yeah, I am clearly I am. I didn't mean to come in there. I didn't know that I was coming into the wrong pub. I I've just following another one of your brethren in around. Got them was they actually put were they actually put it on you genuinely. Yeah a couple not I didn't feel I was gonna get beaten up but it it's not nice being in the pub and they made it clear you're not wanted in the pub.

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That's a, that's an awkward because where am I going to go. I don't know the area. I'm. Stu's not with me. He's gone over to one of his mates. So there's literally nothing, nowhere I can go to ameliorate the situation. Oh my God, really? What can I do? I can't walk out into the streets of Glasgow. I don't know where I am, I don't know what I've spoken.

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I'll take it for the game. Supposed to be meeting a drug dealer called Ed on. Off time he goes. I'll come on, mate. We're now Ethan's down there waiting for you. And I went, And he was. I use the Yid one in all my gear. And I was like, yes, please. He don't don't kill me, my children, please.

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Even I have, I swear. I mean, there might be a number of, boozers around Ibrox. Was it, was it like, was it very close to Ibrox. Yeah. This pub. Yeah. So I'm, I'm fairly certain I know the pub that you're talking about and I walked past it. I've, I've found this the Louden Tavern. One if it's the same one that I've, just Google it.

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Yeah. Having a second one and I've done a bit of, that I'm a bit of work in there, actually. That's a bit nicer than when I went at a spelling Louden. Louden Tavern. Ello ud and. That's o'clock, I said. Oh, okay. Yeah. I said, oh, she's a beauty. And she fucking show it. Well, it's a heap, deary me.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the boozer. I mean, like, it looks like a betting shop. It's fucking awful. Why would you do that? I suppose that I don't, I just happen to build something beautiful. Are you outside the outside? Especially Rangers as well. That is fucking. Yeah. So that was disgusting. Okay. Lovely. So that was the worst pub I've ever been in.

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Another thing that someone picked up, picked up on, we didn't speak about the solo pint. I'm going for a solo pint. Unless I'm right. I'm sorry. All right. I'll. I'll ask for life. I'll ask him. So we'll you. I probably I don't think this closes as a solo pint. Right from memory. The only solo point that I've ever had is when I took my girls to go and watch Olivia Rodrigo.

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And then I sat in Wetherspoons on my own and had 3 or 4 0% beers. Guinness's whilst I did some work and then wait for them and then left after that. Technically I was on my own and I was having a beer on my own, but yeah, I'm sorry Patrick no I didn't. Nein nein nein. That means that time you sitting in it was something else where you dropped the girls off and they would say, yeah, there was you in the Wetherspoons.

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I just got absolutely pickled. Yeah, that was, what the fucking name was it? Is it Jojo Siwa? Oh, one of one of these, like. Yeah, one of the. Yeah, exactly. But yeah. So I wouldn't cross that as a I haven't chosen to toddle off down the road and go and enjoy my own company with a pint in a pub and just be there on my own.

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I and I would never choose to do that either. Now. I would never go out for a meal on my own. I to say I'm just going to disconnect and reconnect because a slight delay.

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Yeah. So have you ever, chosen to go do it? Not often. Have you ever been out for a pint? Yeah. Not often, not often, but I do do it like the like. Especially because we've got this pub right next to my house, which is lovely pop I mentioned last week, and they, they pour a nice pint of Guinness.

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I, I'll sit down there and start the dog and not my dog content monitoring because it's great down in there. But and just look out the window at this amazing view. So, yeah, that would be great. I mean, we're going to be doing a little, get together, aren't we? Soon. So. Yeah. So sure. So you.

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But yeah, there's, there's nothing wrong with it. So I will get your phone or read a paper and have a point. Yeah. No, I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with it for I, I think it's more to do with my own insecurities of me being alone in a pub. Billy Nomates. Oh, that was what it is.

00:07:20:07 – 00:07:35:11
The insecurity of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah. That's what I'm pretty sure. What you think that you're worried about what other people in the pub you'll never, never see again? Will think of you drinking a pint on your own. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Not that you might. One of your mates might see you. It's the people.

00:07:35:14 – 00:07:53:14
The other people. Well, it could be it could be any of that, really. I've never really kind of put it under a microscope and try to think about the reason why I would feel like that, but I think it is, it would be, well, weird if you're in a pub and your mate comes in, dawg. I'm typing.

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Hey, Ricky, as you go my way with. No, I'm just on my own, man. Oh, right. Just. Okay. Fine. Fair enough. Do you mind if I join you? Yeah, actually I do. I want to be on my own, but, yeah, I, I know loads of people that will go into their local boozer for a swift off or swift few.

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Shall I say. But yeah, he's never I'd what I did have kind of, aspirations that when my children hit teens and, you know, things developed and there was a lot of, hormones flying around and a half that I would be that guy that would escape to my local pub. I'd have a beer on my own, but it's not really been that bad, and I don't really want to do that.

00:08:42:07 – 00:09:03:17
So there's that, you know, there was this one time when I was talking about that bloke Hutch went walking around, Hamburg with, there was, there's another bloke I met on a stag do with, for ls exactly when we went to Amsterdam as one of his mates. And his name's Neil, but I can't remember his name exactly.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big lad at his wedding. Do you remember his wedding? He did the speech and he wrote. He's he's, he's he wrote his best man speech on a napkin five minutes before he did it. And it was, it was brilliant to remember him. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Was it Neil. Yeah. It's never just a shagger.

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Absolutely. That about it. Really? Yeah. Top shagger. Mate, we would go out. I'd be like a Tuesday afternoon and I'd be having a pint in because I used to finish work. From exposure when I work for exposure. Yeah. I finish work at 3:00 on a Tuesday, and I had a meeting in Upper Street at, like, half one, so I didn't go back to the office.

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So I was having a pint and I just messaged him, fancy a pint? Them in off street. And he was like, yeah. And then obviously straight through. Where was he at that time that night working in Up Australia, remember. I think he just came in. We just we were terrible for each other. Awful. I had a real bad habit of making friends with people that but facilitate me in every way.

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I think people like that naturally gravitate towards each other, don't I? Yeah. You're like, this is he's not gonna stop me, and I'm not going to stop him. It's bad really. It's very bad. Like, I, I sometimes on TikTok follow a couple not follow but like often FIP comes up with these recovery right and recovery cocaine Shane Kirk and Shane one's freaky man.

00:10:38:00 – 00:10:57:04
It's it's devastating. Just look at his face and you seeing what he's just face is collapsing in on itself. It is. Yeah. That is, if you want to see a, how bad it can get, an alive ads. Walking around for cocaine addiction. Yeah. He is it is it? I feel I feel for him.

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It is fucking heroin. And of course, you feel for him. Yeah, but people, I think about addiction in the way that it's easy for people to stop. It's not. It's impossible. It's not. It isn't a choice. It isn't. It isn't a choice, actually, because willpower alone doesn't get it done. If it is a choice, it means you could choose not to do it.

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But you need of the need of a support systems in place anyway. Ryan. Ryan in recovery. I've been up following him. He was on my bad like coke head. And you listen to some of his stories and you're like, how you pushing a crime in two lines? Like he start, they'll get a gram of gear and he's bashing the whole thing in two lines just to start the night, but I wouldn't I can speak.

00:11:47:16 – 00:12:10:09
Horrid stuff. Horrid, horrid, horrible stuff. Killing it. Gravity line is insane. Yeah. Well, obviously. Yeah, but but but it's things you would talk about. What if you feel that things are okay up to a lot the can't. That isn't necessarily friendship. It's just to people existing in the space they want to exist in for a bit.

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Yeah. And another one that Darren was at my wedding, we would be, terrible, terrible. Darren. Darren I don't know, was I always say something, but, Yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it was, but what isn't there that's dumb. Oh, that's a that's going down. That's what we called. We got a couple of these and we just all loved him I love him, I love to bits.

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He's amazing. Amazing person. Amazing man. But we just like when we were a bit younger. He's be able to me just love can but bang on it. We just go out and Camden and just meet him. I've got no idea who this who this dude is. But, Yeah, with, I think if you. I think.

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No, I think if he lived in Crouch End, you might have been out. Right. Yeah, you would have probably been asked it. I couldn't. I got no room for everybody. I, someone's. I'll go right. Someone's got to go. Would it be never, never be up. You got the in, dim night. Hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes.

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Hi. Is quiet. Midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Banners I, we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous. It's episode 132. I'm Ricky, he's flat. Two best mates, one main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature.

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Something I know you know. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. Oh, I missed the line out there. Fucking. Oh. Well, And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going? Flab? It's good, it's good. Busy? Busy week. Yeah. And I feel like, be sitting on my ass on this chair for, for four days.

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I mean, I was really go out. It has been pissing down rain, so I just feel like I need to, I don't know what I need to. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's been. The weather's been gross today, so it's. It's weird weather, isn't it? Like today is pushing it down. It's gray. Yesterday was brassic woke up and it was just missed.

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And ice everywhere is beautiful. Yeah, but, today is just fucking miserable. Where am I just. I'll just mention that we are on a, a time constraint today. Go get shit done. So we're just gonna zip straight through people trying to zip straight through. Well, I do want to say is right. We I mentioned last week I went for a walk along the canal.

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The canal was clear. I had no idea why it was there. And this is a gentleman. I don't quite know what his job is, but it's in science, biology, that type of shit. And he looks at Salamis. Right. And he sent me an amazing video of a country he was working in. I think it's Guam. I think of a, kind of salami wave breaker.

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That's the best way to describe it. Well, that little thing you sent me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's actually called a fascinated by it, but I put a call out to him last week to say, why was the canal so clear, and why could I see to the bottom? I've never seen it like that. And he actually replied, wow, Ricky mate, tough question here.

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It could be a number of things. One thing could be that if you had lots of rain, lots of rain would overfill the canal, which would push all the water, which would make it clear because all your sediment and all the algae in the water would be gone. Okay. Secondly, if it's been really cold and there's been, there hasn't been a lot of movement on the water as in a boat move in, a lot of the stuff will settle to the floor of your canal.

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There's been no boats. Absolutely. Do you know what there's been my last maybe ten weeks of not seeing a single boat moving down the canal. But it's quite rare. It's quite rare to mate in the summer. I was looking once. I saw one the other day, and up and down all over the shop. I saw a tick tock the other day of a, a couple, and they're trying to move their boat, and the lock's closed, but all the water's empty.

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The lock's closed, but it was empty. It's like it'd been drained. It wasn't, I don't know, they got to it and the lock was closed. The can, I was full, but on the other side, it was almost like the. Someone had taken the plug out and all the water on. Unless it was the sink. I don't know what the edge of the sink.

00:17:14:04 – 00:17:31:14
I don't know if that I do. You know what? I've seen that sort of sentence. I've seen something like that before where someone said they've drawn, they've drawn all the water. Where does it go? The teenagers have left locks open and then all the water's disappeared. Wow. A nice cook. I was going to say it's quite a good practice.

00:17:31:14 – 00:17:57:08
Not if you can. Our listeners are right. I love the canal. But I'm just saying it would be funny if you were on a boat and you looked and suddenly there was no water. Last thing is, the other thing that it could be is your upstream water where it's coming from, that feeds the canal that somehow slowed way down and your current has gone away, which would then let you sediment and all your crap in the canal, settle to the floor.

00:17:57:10 – 00:18:16:21
Hope that helps. So basically, you just say no, the sediment is just falling to the floor. That's what you're saying. Which, I mean, I don't know, I could see the bottom side and I but thank you for sending that in. Much appreciate it. The topic for today five. Do you know what it is? I can't remember.

00:18:16:23 – 00:18:39:00
It's making friends in your, 30s and 40s. Now, this actually stems from an email that we got sent in. And it wasn't just this email. So we've had a couple that are similar to this, but I'll just read it out quickly. I'm a 39 year old man. I'm on New Year's resolution this year is to make some friends.

00:18:39:02 – 00:19:13:14
About three years ago I moved to a popular coastal town with my wife and dog to start out our dream lives. Being somewhat on the autism spectrum, I'm incredibly comfortable in my own company and don't particularly do well in groups of strangers in social situations. Although I can blend in really well and hold conversations with most people. I have a couple of neighbors that I share as mutual friends with my wife, but really, we only get together maybe once every few months and aren't particularly close.

00:19:13:16 – 00:19:33:23
Before I left my home town, I found myself disconnecting more and more from my social circles and hoped I'd make new friends after moving, but sadly, this hasn't been the case. I'd love to have a couple of friends that I could go for a beer with, go for a bike ride, or just catch up or shoot shit like I did when I was younger.

00:19:34:00 – 00:19:54:21
I have zero social media presence for mental health reasons, and I feel like the world has left me behind a bit. How do people connect these days? So we've had quite a few people, that have emailed in over the last few months to say about that. One thing along the line, exactly like this guy. Not exactly.

00:19:54:23 – 00:20:04:05
They didn't mention that. I mean, I on the autism spectrum, they're also not all autistic. Can you?

00:20:04:07 – 00:20:31:18
Imagine that all of our audience was autistic. You know, make these things like, listen, and then they just find comfort from a voice. Just, tapped into something that, Yeah. I mean, there are a lot of people that are struggling out there. We can help you. I mean, we can't physically help you, you know, pick your friends.

00:20:31:18 – 00:20:53:13
Well, you were you reply to everybody online. Just message Rick. You will definitely reply to it. I mean, I didn't I didn't think I did that. There you go. I mean first of number one straight away you get bros. Yeah yeah yeah. Clear your head cleared. Yeah yeah yeah sure. Get yourself some confidence. Yeah, bro. Yes. Yeah, yeah for sure.

00:20:53:15 – 00:21:14:12
That is number one, please. I imagine it is quite tough. I mean, like all the friends, a lot of the friends I've made through the podcast have now become solid mates. And I was always lucky enough to have, like, I've got five brothers that are like, you know, as close to, like their I have. Even if I had nobody else, I've had have them.

00:21:14:14 – 00:21:44:17
Yeah. But I think the older you get, it's almost like you're predefined not to, to find social circles more difficult to, to penetrate. The energy to do it isn't there that where it was previously because I think in a natural space, I mean, in terms of how nature intended, the older you get, the less you need groups.

00:21:44:19 – 00:22:12:14
You know, what is youth is about socializing. It's about making contacts, about going out. It's about making bad decisions and having fun all in the in the hope of making some sort of social connection with someone else. Hopefully find a mate, someone to settle down with. And if, even if you maintain the energy as an adult, as a middle aged man, lots of others don't have the energy or want to match that energy.

00:22:12:16 – 00:22:59:11
It's okay. Yeah, it can be a bit bit tricky out of. Yeah, I think, I mean, like, I wouldn't even know where to where to start like because back in that, like when you in young in your early 20s and you're making making friends and then you get to our age now 40s, and you're a totally different stage in your life where by for me, anyway, I'm less dependent on or less searching of other kind of, that, that, that type of friendship.

00:22:59:13 – 00:23:33:03
I, I have like, a handful of people that are my mates, and we have a you know, a deep connection whereby we have shared hobbies and interests and experiences and, and a lot of, and all of that stuff. So it's a very deep rooted friendship. But if I was looking for, a new friendship, I'd find it quite difficult because of being a being that you'd be in an office.

00:23:33:03 – 00:23:54:00
Right. So it's not the it's not the greatest place to to make a friendship at work. I would say, I don't know. I mean, I mean, I've made some really good friends at work, as I said that, I knew that obviously, you know, James and James all like my best, my best friend. So I saw your face in it.

00:23:54:00 – 00:24:19:23
So you fucking sorry. Oh my God, you get a little cunt. Yeah. James is never say that to me. No, but you're like, yeah, in that instance. But usually work is associated with boredom and and, you know, I think so it's hard sometimes it is. Not you know, I take that back because I have made some amazing mates at work.

00:24:20:01 – 00:24:40:08
It was my birthday, like Batman. You remember? She was your mate? Yes. There was, yeah, that was at Moorfields Eye Hospital. That's. That is the one. Yeah. So, friends, I am still for. Do you know what I messaged, yesterday? What did you say? So she was, she said, just like my old man. I'm going to the shops on my bike.

00:24:40:11 – 00:24:59:18
And she had cycled to the shops on her bike, and I was like, me fucking icy and snowy out there, you mental? Yeah. And she just found that really funny. She said, like, you know, I've got to get to the shops and I've got a bike. So that's what I'm going to do. But yeah, she's well, very well.

00:24:59:20 – 00:25:18:15
My, my mate Dale, but, yeah, I was like, I've made great mates at work, but that was when I was younger. Do you know what I mean? It's kind of. I was a lot more, I thought, like, I didn't have anything to lose. I was very I wasn't guarded, I didn't really know the world.

00:25:18:15 – 00:25:45:16
I was, you know, just here. There. And everywhere. But as I've got to this older age, I'm more selective, I'm more guarded. I'm more kind of like, transactional with people I would work with. It's like to get the work done, have chit chat. That would be it. I wouldn't see them outside of, Yeah. So I can understand where people are finding it hard.

00:25:45:18 – 00:26:10:01
But if you go to the gym, another gym, bro, you just there for the workout. If you, You know what, right? This is a fucking very weird place to, I'm not saying that I'm friends of anyone, but when I go my regular walks every single morning, I see the same faces, the same people, the same fishermen and stuff like that.

00:26:10:03 – 00:26:44:11
I normally raise my to them. So. You right? Yeah. Today in it. Oh, you caught any fish today? And, you know, those little things, I could easily start up a friendship with them. I don't know what I'd have to do is just stop in that moment, have a little conversation, and then carry on going. So if you've, if you've got a dog or you go for walks, maybe, you know, you might see the same regular people as you're going and you can, build up a relationship from that.

00:26:44:13 – 00:27:18:21
What about, what about, but what I've, I've noticed there's, like, a games shop near me. A boardgame shop, and they play Dungeons and Dragons in their D and D is D and D. That was a tenacious D, so, I've seen these people playing D and D on in TikTok and stuff, and I'm like, this is actually fucking fantastic.

00:27:18:23 – 00:27:37:08
But then you see some of them, you're like this kids life like this storytelling. That's what it is. Yeah. So I might can make some friends with some dork. I saw a woman that was, teaching an actor. I think she was an actress. And she was talking about D and D, and he was like, how do you play this?

00:27:37:09 – 00:27:53:00
Oh, yeah. John. Bethan. Bethan. That's it? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. That clip is amazing. It's I'm all in it and he's I there's a crack and there's now bear there and he's like yeah. Have I ever seen an owl bear before says right, let's run a perception check. And I was like, wow, look at that run and run.

00:27:53:02 – 00:28:13:03
Oh, the perception check is good that it is cool, isn't it? I fucking love to get involved with that. I'll tell you that now. Yeah, it's a fun, fun. So what do you really love to do? Social media. Don't mind the fact that the guys come off social media. That's fucking kid shit heap of a place.

00:28:13:03 – 00:28:37:12
That's how you got, like, absolute pile on by Aston Villa fans. It'll be great. Yeah. What was that? Because I called them a yoyo club about two years ago, and the overlap decided. Oh, no. No, sorry. You're talking about the tweet I made. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I did that retaliation for them getting me first rate.

00:28:37:14 – 00:28:40:23
They started it.

00:28:41:00 – 00:28:57:09
They started it. I'll tell you what. We're going to talk about this on the Fighting Cock podcast. So everyone but everyone here because it doesn't make sense in this thing. But in terms of social media, it's full of horrible people. Twitter is very horrible. It's not a place to make friends. But being right, we we've kind of made friends through the internet, didn't we?

00:28:57:09 – 00:29:29:08
Like. Exactly. I mean, exactly that. Not kind of. We actually did. We did on a forum. Yeah. Can we name it? You would. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so glad it's gone. Yeah. Exactly. T HFC latest, it was code and you'd go on there every morning. You would see a thread that someone has created. You go in there and comment and say all the usual people and there is maybe like a collection of, shall we say, 30 people that would fairly regularly use it in and out.

00:29:29:10 – 00:29:56:05
Yeah. We and I would, I would say like in that period I was just close to them guys on that message board as opposed to people in my real life. Like I would spend so much time on that message board 100% like literally this pictures of me like and in the background, my computer's on and you can see the port, the boards on my screen like that light blue, the port.

00:29:56:07 – 00:30:16:02
And me and Ricky went on there. We had loads of mates. I still know loads of people else. The fact that I talked about earlier, he was we met him on there, else we did. Yeah, yeah. You know obviously to trunk without. Yeah. Jack without that board, the final cut wouldn't have happened. Yeah. Absolutely categorically would not exist.

00:30:16:04 – 00:30:50:08
And all of these podcasts, all of them, none of them would exist. Now you're right. No. You're right. Yeah. Absolutely right. Yeah. But yeah, if I'm if you were to. But you said no social media, that's fine. What about if you like, looked in Reddit or any of the places online and the main places. What I would say actually is, Facebook groups, and local Facebook groups make sure it's not like any the we've got one called Milton Keynes Moan.

00:30:50:10 – 00:31:14:21
So everyone's in there moaning about Milton Keynes. Brilliant Facebook I love those. There's my favorite thing the like Devizes Adam Devizes issues is is all one. And it's just got a bloke 40 and Wallace is £0.11 and people are just like taking him out all the time. Oh well. Angry the other day when you, when would you accept a 1% paying, 1% rise in your council tax?

00:31:14:23 – 00:31:34:23
So the council would be able to raise enough money to deal with all the potholes in the road and, like, now just fucking sort them out. I can fuck how much it costs your job. Sort the money out. And now the, the bin collections, you can go up to three weeks every three weeks as vice every two weeks.

00:31:35:00 – 00:31:53:04
So we're already paying more council tax. We can put the same amount of council for less. Service means it costs more. It's more expensive. What we're paying for having Hackney. Second, your bins are going to sit outside for three weeks and then they're going to collect it. Yes. That is disgraceful. Yeah. When do you come? Every two weeks.

00:31:53:06 – 00:32:15:05
Every. Oh no. No every week. Every week. Every week my black bins are collected. That's food rubbish and all the crap. And then on alternate weeks from that side to the red and blue, which is your plastics and your paper and card, you have to separate your plastics and card. Yeah, yeah. You got one bin for plastic and one bin for.

00:32:15:07 – 00:32:39:09
Yeah. Paper. I say yeah, blue is plastic bottles, cans and foil. And then red is paper and cardboard. So I live in a third world where you live in milk, isn't it? Well, we walk out and get picked up every three weeks. Yeah, they can, because we're the rats. Oh, the rats or the rats and dirty people that they have to.

00:32:39:09 – 00:33:02:01
Or what? Dysentery would spread throughout the whole of Milton Keynes. No one washes their acid. Fucking. I made three weeks. That's unbelievable. Do you do you. It's going to be. Your house is going to be piled high with fucking black bag. Nah, a little bit. But it's going to be like, you know, the Christmas when you got to pick up, like, Christmas.

00:33:02:01 – 00:33:25:22
It's just part of this shit everywhere. Do you, do you still not wash your hands after you have a poop? Jesus. It's right. I always wash my hands. No, no, you said it doesn't touch anything. It just comes out. So you don't need to wash your hands. That's it. That's. That is a lie that it always was a weed in state of my mud.

00:33:25:22 – 00:33:43:13
Fucking puppy. You know, I have to, is it? I gotta remember the answer, then. Is it, Is it when is it a weed and money? It because you you said to put your willies just like another piece of skin. So why? What? Why am I going to waste my time washing my hands? Now that does sound something like I would say, right?

00:33:43:19 – 00:34:03:16
Do you wash your hands after having away. Yeah, that. Yeah, I have to because fucking my kids and I like most of the time when I'm chatting with my kids, I am very, handsy. What not hands is in that way, but what what what's the word I'm looking for? What do you mean, what way? I don't know what you mean.

00:34:03:16 – 00:34:23:08
I'm good for tactile, but what do you mean, hands in that way? I said, like, if I pass them and squeeze their cheek or ruffle their hair or. But what? You said. Not in that way. What do you mean, not in that way? What? What was hands in like? Not. See, I didn't even think that you eat your vacuum and rocking the edges of it.

00:34:23:10 – 00:34:55:24
No. No. What? It's a, when when when the kids use your sweet to have a poo stink out your bedroom. Yeah, they have a not flush the toilet. Younger ones sometimes, but. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it was another human paint powder, didn't it? Didn't come from me. It's nothing worse than that. No, no, I know, and, I'm like, generally the person only uses the downstairs toilet.

00:34:56:04 – 00:35:18:11
And that's my, my poem into it about really? This is really weird because I've, I've had a turn in there and lo and behold, there was, there was some screeches in the pan, some of it was skids. And I was, right. I'll sort that out. But, my plan was to go back in there and then piss them off off the wall, as you normally do.

00:35:18:14 – 00:35:38:02
I believe it's called chipping or being a chipper. So I'm not trying to do that, but then it's gone a few days and these, these night marks hadn't gone, so I had to get the brush out. And honestly, mate, the amount of work I had to put in to get rid of these things, I don't, I poo.

00:35:38:02 – 00:36:06:23
How was it like just superglued itself to the side of fucking mint? Sometimes it happens directly after the for as well. Yeah. Why is that? How are you doing that in, Is that straight? Why are you so committed to not going down? Yeah. Just leave it. Leave us. Yeah. I want out. Yeah. So with your run off track, let me just get back to track.

00:36:07:04 – 00:36:37:02
So I was going to say about. So meeting new people, going to, what was it like meeting people from work and stuff like that? It's very hard. And and we were talking about Facebook group. I'll ask what Facebook groups, hobbies and stuff like that. So if you have a specific hobby and you want to join a group or something like that, are there any like local running groups where you are, are there any.

00:36:37:04 – 00:36:58:13
Yeah, loads. Fishing groups. Yeah, exactly. There's loads of these types of things you just need to you need to go looking for it at last week when we were talking about pop as well, if you go into your local bays, I like you said you want to go for a beer with a couple of people ever, you know, of the crack with them, go on bike rides.

00:36:58:19 – 00:37:24:20
They. When you said bike rides, immediately it conjured up into my head. A fully grown man on BMX is just riding around their estate. And that's not. That's right as well. Yeah, that is fine. That's not the type of riding he probably mean. If you were just not in your local every Friday, same time, 3:00 had a pint, you would find the same people that are on your kind of rhythm in that pub.

00:37:24:22 – 00:37:45:24
You'd get a head nod, then you'd get a little, you know, like, oh yeah, yeah, as you go and you have a little conversation and then it snowballs. And then before you know it, you're in someone's kitchen. 3:00 in the morning there. Fucking cheese all all over the gaff. You're a happy little boy. You are. So it's,

00:37:46:01 – 00:38:21:09
I mean, it is difficult. And being an adult is. I think the older you get, the harder it is to make new friends, because you have a lot of insecurities about yourself. You don't want to come across as, stupid or, embarrassing or I think, but as much as it really is about like, you know, the fact meeting other people in a similar position because a lot of people have made their friends, have they got families, like most of my energy is spent at home with my kids and and no wife.

00:38:21:15 – 00:38:45:14
That's where my energy goes. There isn't much space left for anybody else. You know, we've been friends for years and we barely see each other. Yes, I do know. Yeah. So it's like you're competing with that, which is difficult, but it doesn't say is impossible is just right with your eyesight. When you see an opportunity, you get sliver there like a little worm.

00:38:45:16 – 00:39:22:21
Do you think, like, with adults? Well, we, because of, like, I don't know, like which social media I was just speaking about, because everyone is keeping up with the Joneses. Everyone's got a perfect life and everyone's that, you know, Instagram lifestyle and all of that. Like, do you think it's it drives people away that they're less willing to discuss their feelings and how they really are in fear of not living up to sort of expectations of what I mean is, are adults too scared to admit that they're lonely?

00:39:22:23 – 00:39:38:04
Yeah. I don't think I would. I also, it's of an energy that's quite hard to deal with if you're saying it's I, I just I'm really lonely in life. I don't know what to say to that. What would I say? That's not to make me want to be a friend. Is it even more so, like the lonely stuff?

00:39:38:04 – 00:40:00:24
Yeah. Yeah, especially for men. Men don't want to deal with, like. In the first instance, don't want to deal with something really heavy like that. First is what do you like? Do you like Guinness? What football team do you support this guy and watch football. Do you like the office? Yeah. Yes. All right I, I think it's probably the most overrated show in British comedy history, but.

00:40:00:24 – 00:40:20:15
Yeah. God, what have you said? What team do you support? Tottenham. Oh, okay. One of one of two. Great. Brilliant. Yeah, I got that point. Just go back to that. Just one before we do carry on. What do you think? If any of this is really good, they hate me. Yeah. You ask me. He said, do I like the office is easy.

00:40:20:15 – 00:40:44:24
Good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's the best, the best, the best. One of the best. One of the best. No. You sound really stupid when you say that. Why? You just sound like an idiot. I don't think I can be your friend. Yeah. This is. Do you like breaking back? Breaking Bad? Go back. Please. You break it back.

00:40:45:01 – 00:41:10:02
Breaking back. Oh. I thought it was okay. Just pretend like it. Just pretend you like what they like until you know. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. That's fake. Until you make it. I just ask ChatGPT. What? Why? It's difficult, to make friends when you're middle aged. He says you lose force, proximity, which is really interesting when you're young.

00:41:10:02 – 00:41:27:09
Friendship is basically a side effects of being trapped together. School, uni, first jobs, shared houses. You see the people constantly with zero effort. Middle age strips that away, everyone scattered, busy and exhausted. Friendship now requires intention, which is harder. The momentum.

00:41:27:11 – 00:41:51:08
That's that is that's now there, isn't it? You forced to be together when you're young. Time becomes fragmented in your 20s. You might have entire evenings to waste. In midlife, time comes in awkward little chunks between work, kids, partners, caring responsibilities, or just needing to lie down and stare at the ceiling. Chatting. Go, go. You got jokes.

00:41:51:10 – 00:42:20:21
Deep friendships need repetition. And repetition is expensive. Now. Fuck, people are already full. A lot of people aren't unfriendly. They're saturated. They've got their school friends, work friends, kids, parents, WhatsApp groups. They already mute. Adding someone new feels like adding another subscription. They forget, forget. They have to forget to cancel a podcast. Going to ChatGPT you going to take have a podcast?

00:42:20:23 – 00:42:41:13
You stick a little, a local accent on that lot of Sheffield accent. Put this out as a podcast. People be like, oh, that was a good one this week. This is good. Nailed it. Vulnerability feels riskier. Yeah, this is better than anything we can say. To be honest. I just read this out and, friendship deepens through honesty and low stakes messiness when you're younger.

00:42:41:13 – 00:43:08:00
Oversharing is normal. In midlife, people are more guarded. Careers, reputations, relationships, and pride are in play. The emotional barrier to saying I'm struggling gets higher, not lower. Yeah, so you just say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We make we mistake for familiarity, for closeness, work colleagues. Jim faces other parents on the touchline. You see people regularly and assume connection will happen naturally.

00:43:08:00 – 00:43:34:19
It rarely does without deliberately crossing into the line or in the pub or coffee. It stays polite and shadow shallow. Yeah, yeah. Energy is lower, standards are higher. You've got less patience for draining people and more awareness of what you don't want. That's healthy, but it narrows the field. You're no longer collecting friends. You create in friends. You said that as well about people coming on your doorstep.

00:43:34:23 – 00:44:05:07
Share my doorstep. I don't like shell. Yeah, yeah. You'll be cut. Yeah, yeah. As I'm coping like I, Yeah. As I've got older, I've got brilliant trait, trait. The people up I want around me. Yeah. So you surround yourself with. Yeah. So you made it really exciting yesterday for income. I know, but the people I had like meaningful shared relationships when I was younger, I just don't see you speak to.

00:44:05:07 – 00:44:32:07
I don't remember half of the names. That proximity thing is really, Well, the first one. Yeah, because I do have a lot of, let's say, mates. That I grew up with, that I probably looking back and looking back on it now, not really my mates, do you know. I mean, it's because we hung around all in the same group.

00:44:32:09 – 00:45:05:13
But if I was to choose my mates again, as in to say these ones over here, like, no, like we don't have a shared interest and we don't have the same kind of world view. We don't have all these different things yet because we hung around together. You don't live near each other. We would mate and he would say, Andy, if my bosses were if you said you don't have friends, you just share a common goal with people, which is really bleak.

00:45:05:15 – 00:45:27:17
But yeah, what's the common goal when you're eighteens getting mangled and trying to get, you know, have sex? Yeah. Your all your common goals now shared with your family. I think yeah. Well I mean what would our common goal be then.

00:45:27:19 – 00:45:45:08
I don't know I don't believe I don't believe it. I don't think because the common goal is happiness or love. Isn't it? So I care what happens to you, Rick. Yeah. Oh, it needs to be happy. I don't want you to be sad. And if you are sad, I'll do my best to try and get you out of it.

00:45:45:08 – 00:46:03:04
So that friendship, isn't it? I don't want anything back in return for doing that. Yeah. Whereas some of the people I used to get married with, I wouldn't want them to call me if that a problem. Don't don't call me up saying you feel sad.

00:46:03:06 – 00:46:34:17
I don't know you anymore. Just keep looking for them. Actually. That's good. I do have something here. So there's something, the the pop friendship test. To see if they are an actual friend. Would you go on holiday together? Would you help them move house? Oh, only my best friends are the moving housing. I would never ask my true friends to help me move house.

00:46:34:19 – 00:46:52:04
No, that's not what a good friend does. No, I know the last thing in the world you want to do is drive across the wheelchair and help me move house. So I would never ask you. I didn't ask you to. Two hours to drive across to vote, share and then move to houses and. Yeah. Is that what it is?

00:46:52:06 – 00:47:02:12
Yeah, yeah. Two hours. Why didn't you come to see me more often? Because my fucking car never fucking move, right? It's fucking.

00:47:02:14 – 00:47:18:11
I go call, it works. I could probably come to you. But you never would. I know, I would, I would, I would drive to you, I would, I would, of course, of. It is only two hours. Sure. Yeah. Two hours. Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've, looked. Yeah. But, you saying that and you would never ask your friends.

00:47:18:13 – 00:47:45:18
You never, asked to do anything about me even would you out your mates. Did any of what? Any of them offer to help me move the no. One, not one person. The zero. Well, the the kids. That one person, I said there was one person who? Me? You didn't ask. I remember, but I don't know if I don't remember the WhatsApp photograph there.

00:47:45:18 – 00:48:05:09
You have a screengrab there. Yeah, there wasn't. I made that up. So it's showing off in front of. Well, no, the only person that did with the kids. Daddy, he's like, he's fucking was like, great time and move to Sydney. Yeah, he does it, I suppose. Yeah. You then. No one did. No one did. No one.

00:48:05:11 – 00:48:30:16
No one offered. No, but but it's fine because I would offer my services. I would do everything I can not to help someone move house. Get out of it in every way possible. My sister always says that. You know how me and my missus, we're very laid back. Yeah. Planning an organization isn't, strong point, but we were moving house, and my sister said she.

00:48:30:16 – 00:48:51:00
She turned up on the day to help out. And she looked around the house, and nothing had been, like, virtually boxed up. And she just looked at me, and my sister was just just cried with laughter. So we were just getting stuff and just put it, just sliding it onto the lorry as we're moving six streets away.

00:48:51:00 – 00:49:13:14
It's not that bad. We don't need to box everything up. She's like, yeah, but you still need to do this. And I was just like, just take the cutlery drawer out the cutlery thing, slide on the lorry, forget about it. And then we'll just throw it into the house, but deal with it later. But she found that hilarious that we had packed nothing and just threw in a lorry, drive a few streets down the road, and then just flew into the house and dealt with it.

00:49:13:14 – 00:49:39:18
And then at the time, I don't even know what the fucking hell was I talking about that to one another? It that's it, about, whether or not they are a good mate or not. Right. I think we're going to end up there and the. We've got something any, you know, that is called nemesis in sperm.

00:49:39:18 – 00:50:17:15
I. Very good. And the topic for next week. Okay. The topic for next week is parenting styles. Right. We'll be recording next week, next Friday the 23rd of January. And it's going to be our two year anniversary to when we first release Lads Anonymous. The first episode, which was the 23rd of January 2024, I think it was for this episode, we've got a special guest, we've got a guest coming on.

00:50:17:15 – 00:50:39:15
Do we tell them who the guest is now? Well, we've got a guest. You know who the fucking guests know yet, though, when I would, I think I would remember if we were going to have a guest for the first time in our fucking podcast history. You suggested the guest. What? Who? I'm not telling you. We're going to.

00:50:39:20 – 00:51:09:01
So what's what is the what's the podcast about? Pairing in styles. Parenting styles? Yeah. Parenting. That's dads. Dads. That's. Oh, dad, I think it's my brother Alex. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yes. Yeah yeah yeah. That's next week. Is it Friday. That's next week. Next Friday. So, it's going to be me fluff and flaps brother because he's just become produces.

00:51:09:03 – 00:51:32:22
Yeah. Come. Oh he's just become a father isn't he. He's got a little a little childhood memories and we're going to chat about that. And, and obviously he does all the, theme tunes for Latin on flying cars. All of it. And, I mean, he just doesn't do things. Incredibly talented music guys. But anyway, there's going to be three of us for the pod next week.

00:51:32:22 – 00:52:12:16
I'm fucking very excited, to have that conversation. So if you've got anything about, fatherhood, parenting styles, anything like that, send it into Lad's Anon pod@gmail.com and then, yeah, look forward to it. We're going to go into something I know you know, now why something you know. Nemesis in sperm. I, it was a beautiful summer's day, and my school had arranged a trip to Thorpe Park.

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I was in a small group of six friends, both boys and girls. And one of the girls was my new girlfriend. Whilst we were queuing for one of the rides, my girlfriend decided she wanted to go in for a smooch. A proper sloppy kiss. There's nothing best when you. Oh mate. When? Yeah, when you're teenagers, you go to a theme park and start getting off of your bed at the theme park.

00:52:38:06 – 00:53:14:08
Yeah, it was like a rite of passage, wasn't it? Yeah. So it's not proper to wait for the nemesis. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And think things are going off. Things are going off in your trousers. Yeah. For sure. This was something I hadn't done before. I definitely enjoyed it. Immediately a rush of blood ran straight down to my cock, and I was stiff as a board and instead of popping it into my waistband, it grew downwards and was held firmly in place on my leg by my tight boxer shorts.

00:53:14:10 – 00:53:49:17
I've had a couple of those ones I don't think anyone noticed, as my girlfriend was standing in front of me, blocking any view of my concealed erection. After a short while of kissing, we continued to shuffle along in the queue. My my soldier was no longest standing to attention and I was relieved that no one had noticed. However, as we approached the front of the queue, my girlfriend moved away from me and one of my mates suddenly saw that I had a wet patch on my beige chino shorts.

00:53:49:19 – 00:54:20:20
He quickly looked at the rest of the group forced down at me cos he did, asking what it was. I looked down at my crotch a new straightaway that this was jizz. All the making out must, must have made me so horny that I'd leaked a shit ton of prick without knowing. Fuck. I grabbed and pinched the wet patch and told everyone that I was desperate for a wee, and that a little bit must have tripled our.

00:54:20:22 – 00:54:42:14
I had to make up a whole story. I suffer from a weak bladder, and that this sometimes happens when I hold it in for too long. Everyone seemed to buy it and it was actually quite and was actually quite empathetic about the whole thing. I darted out of the queue and headed for the toilets to dry out the patch with the hand dryers.

00:54:42:16 – 00:55:11:05
I would much rather be embarrassed by everyone thinking I had a weak bladder, rather than coming in my own pants without my cock being touched, and that is something I'm a pretty good, good, good is it? Remind me of them. Peep show. Do you remember? Mark is in the stationery cupboard with Dobby. Oh, yeah. And she's grinding up against him, and then he is in his pants and he goes out and,

00:55:11:07 – 00:55:21:07
Who is it? Sophie. And who's the other day? It's the boss. Not, not the boss. Jeff?

00:55:21:09 – 00:55:39:22
Yeah, yeah, Mike's making it like this smoking spliff. And they say that he's got a wet patch in front of his trousers, and it's, Mark V pissed yourself and he's like, yeah, yeah. Then he walks away and they're all laughing at me. It's like, the joke's on you, actually. Jack cheese. So, reroute the phones. Oh, my.

00:55:39:22 – 00:56:02:09
I love very much love pizza. Go. I would yeah, that's one thing. When I, when I do drive. Can you ever watch Peep Show with you as well? That's one thing I, Yeah. So the topic got loads of weed coming from the, What? From Curaleaf. What, for your feet? Yeah, Schmidt. Loads of weed or, you know.

00:56:02:11 – 00:56:18:06
Yeah. Can you? Yeah. Well, I mean, I haven't for for like, five years. No no no no no no, we're not fucking starting smoking drugs if you don't smoke drugs. I didn't know of you I don't know what about if he vape? It was that still drugs, isn't it? So drugs doesn't count. It doesn't count. We do these things that way.

00:56:18:12 – 00:56:43:16
Just like we might get some MDMA in them as well. Then if we're doing it. Yeah. Oh yeah. I would style and some ching. Nah. Yeah. Totally terrible ideas. Right? Right. But okay. Right, right, right. So the topic for next week is parenting styles. Or if you've become a dad for the first time, or if you're a dad and you've got two little ones, whatever it is, send it in to lads.

00:56:43:16 – 00:56:57:15
Anon pod at gmail.com. We do have a guest. It's going to be flash Brava! And until then, well patrons, we're going to see today, which is Thursday. You're lucky that everyone else see you on Monday.

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For shark attacks 48 hours. Sydney. Holy shit. For in what, eight 48 hours a week? What a fucking week, boys. They like God, right? You know, it's a 48. Know what? It's basically excess rainfall. Causes a sewage pump out because it got old sewage works. Yeah. So your sewage goes into the harbor and into sea. Baitfish love a bit of raw sewage.

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Bull sharks. One of the baitfish. Bait. Bull sharks eat the humans. And yet they're still going in. They're still going in, like, do something else. Anything else? I'm going to go swimming. This is what we're about. Just for a bit. Do something else. Wouldn't, would. Yeah. Go now. Wouldn't all the Pooh stop you? Before the shark. Yeah, I don't care.

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Just Jonny's bobbing up and down there like now I don't care. This is my cold shot, right? I will swim when I want to fucking swim. All right? You don't tell me nothing. Yeah, there. Like we can't. We can't live in fear. We got to do the stuff we want to do. And you like. There are 999 things I could list that.

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You mean you don't have to go in the water when there's bull sharks fucking everywhere? I mean, and it's all bull sharks. Yeah, yeah. Some geezer, some guys are wound me up on TikTok. I went onto the comments of a TikTok and they went. It's the same shark war like jaws. Is it jaws? The same sharks eating all the people?

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Is it not the thousands of bull sharks in the water? It's the same shark. Eight animal fuck. Come on. Oh, and the local is is it all in the same area? This is before the happened or in the same area. Why are people going in there? You're fucking idiots. I know, I know, I know, they're like, right, this is what I do.

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I come down here every morning at 7:00 and I surf and that's how I start my morning. Richard White yeah, it's just white. And they know you know what's in there. Alex. They're saying Colin, they want to cull some stories about Nicole. Bull sharks just don't go in the war. What's the thousands? Leave it. Thousands have to go.

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Thousands of bull sharks have to be murdered because a couple of people want to go for a swim. That doesn't feel right. It's not on. It's not on me. So I like it. You might have hurt people. You won't. As we record, you won't hear this, Alex, but there's a jingle that you wrote for us about two years ago.

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Now. Yeah, I'm still a up. Still? Yeah, I'm still with people. People? Remember that Jesus in the video? He he's mate turned him on to the Latin Underworld podcast, and there's a video doorbell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about that. All of a sudden. Yeah. We didn't. We often get, messages as well asking who you are.

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And obviously we, we, we direct them to your Spotify. Like. Yeah, we, we also get a lot of people saying, what if you got the full version? Where's the full version? I'm not that there. Is that the jingles, the jingle man. Just be happy with what you got. Be happy with that. You've got something rather than just.

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All right. Shut up. Yeah. Just clowning. You okay? And learning. My, I was going to say I. I need to speak to you about something, right? I I've been having a bit of a tough week. Tough nine days. I said for New Year's, my New Year's resolution. Got a quit the vape vapes. Got a go, lads.

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I said to myself, you know, when you like lying to yourself and you know, when all the cartridges are done, I won't buy anymore. And that's it. That, you know, done. Bear out. We're out. And then on the 16th again, we cut that morning. No more vaping and I've not had a vape in like nine days now.

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Yeah, it'd be a lie to say that I don't think about it, but the I have been extremely rude and mean to my friends in WhatsApp because I've had the power you thought you hated. I thought, I can't control myself. I thought you were just winding us up. But you like the villain of these villains? Yeah, yeah, that that villain arc was there, but I've just like, I have been leaning into it, like, really badly.

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And I've been on you, to be honest. Yeah, I know, yeah, I know, I know, you have this fun, but yeah, I've been saying some really mean things and just do a little. Is there a, like, a little laugh you do after you send work out? No, no no, no, it's just, ten toes. Yeah, I feel bad.

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Everyone's good. I feel bad to. Everyone's gonna feel bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah. She was a real life friend, Alex. It'd be pretty world right now. If we had him in real life, he wouldn't be coming round it up yet. No. All right, stay out. You you. Are you ready now? In the garden. Oh, does any part.

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You're what? You're a musician. You're also a life coach. Do do you have any advice for Ricky here? As, like as someone who has given up, And by choice, given up something that he liked and enjoyed, but obviously is damaging to his health and is now taken out on his friends. Yeah. Just do the right. Yeah.

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To get a across at the right. Yeah. So back there to get a bra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds good. Do you think it'll pass or what. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I've I've done it before. Last, last year I made it to April and then I think I went to a beer garden and then I was just like fucking.

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Now I've had too many beers and then I went into the shop and then I was, is, is it about worrying about doing something to your lungs? Is that what you're worried about? Yeah. It is. And, for years I, I, kept it a secret. Like smoking, smoking roll ups. I kept that, you know, I hate that from my daughters.

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And I didn't know I smoked, even though they did. But they never, you know, they never saw me, and I didn't want them to catch me. And then they kind of knew I vaped. They they would walk downstairs and be like, oh, it smells of peach lemonade in here. I wonder why that is. That I'm no good.

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I don't I'm not vaping in front of them. Yeah. She does. Yeah. Yeah, she does, but I want to be I just, I don't know, I just did what now? I was like, I old 14 she's vaping. She's not, she's not very. She's the younger one is 12 is probably vaping probably. Yeah. Two at the same time as well walking into class like that.

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But yeah. And then I just got, I just got really lax of it. And I knew my co-host didn't want me to vape. So I was like, yeah, I probably shouldn't be vaping. It's bad for you. They don't really know research wise what it does, the damage it does. Might as well just fucking knock it in the head and in the in the in my own mind, like I am inhaling an oil that is flavored and heated into my lungs, you know, I mean, it's a this is not good.

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It's not serious. I'm trying to go fuck it off. A strange petroleum liquid from a factory in China. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And somehow, somehow, we've got an entire generation of young people hooked on it. Yeah. So I think, I think the role is a better. Yeah. Well, exactly. Which is sucking I shout, it's like it's been better than smoking in it, but it's like and I'm doing something.

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Do you know, like these and like what the government do to kind of curtail the addicted young generation on these lovely, sickly sweet liquids, perfect for, you know, chat room capture in the imagination and then the, the, the addictive tendencies of 16 year old kids. Is, well, we don't want disposable vapes. That makes it too easy for kids to buy.

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So the companies that made the vapes just made them not disposable. They just put a charging port on it. But this is not disposable. They can reuse it again. Therefore we can continue to sell it. It's exactly the same. So the government cannot be banned. Disposable ban, no plastics in the sea. All that shit. Yeah. We go, well we'll just put a charging port on it.

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That's not it's not disposable. And that's what they did. So it's exact. Nothing changed. Yeah. The sharks are vaping now because yeah that's why they're buying their AK and that's why they're biting it. You know you know the the fish that it's, it's cocaine. I see, I've seen those. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I've seen that. Like, I don't know, 90% of fish I see.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Traces of cocaine. I was like right, I couldn't get it. I didn't understand how it's happening. We are fucking legends in this country when 99% of our fish are addicted. Because the amount of drugs we're doing. Yeah. Follow our lead, man. Outcast. I had class a classmate, I wrote a jingle, I. Yeah, I go and then.

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The night hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek. As I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to lads anonymous is episode 133.

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I'm Ricky Haze Flav. We've got Alex, two best mates, one main topic. We answer your life dilemmas and confessions and I'll feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going, gents? I mean, this is. This is interesting, innit? For three of us. We had a threesome before.

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No, no. So this is. No. So this is why I always wanted to, hold off on gas. I just wanted to kind of, like, establish the pod and the two of us and stuff. Or 108 episodes in. Yeah, well, yeah, 163. Oh, yeah. They not think it was established at like 50. No, no no no no. What if what if I had a heart attack I'll get someone else in.

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Exactly. Yeah yeah yeah. Right. What do you mean to get someone else in. Is that what you're saying? Is this what you're saying? On our two year anniversary? Two year birthday of releasing that to none of us? You're saying get someone else. Happy fucking birthday. Drink your milk and fuck off. Two years. Is it? Yeah. Two years. Today we released our first ever episode and that was on the mates.

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I think it was friendship. Yeah. Friendship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was fucking way to to to to celebrate. And I've been Alexander can. Well I've got on today wraps. Yeah yeah yeah. Thank you very much. Pleasure to be here. Thank you. So. Oh like your brother did a bit of an intro, but, why don't you, you brothers, do you have any.

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They wouldn't have known that. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah. Flap. Flap and Alex are brothers. Yeah. We all used to hang around with each other in Crouch End as well. Yeah. And then in the glory days, the actual foundations of this podcast were based on that era. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Your flat basically. And Ryan's flat. Yeah yeah yeah. Like you know, it would all go out and have a great time. Yeah. Yes. Very good, very good time. Very good time. So out how would you describe yourself for the for the people listening. Describe myself as in, like artist wise, you've worn many hats over the years. Yeah.

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I in terms of what I do, I guess there's, two sides to it. So I might call and help people. So I make music, under the name change what it is. I might be Jingle the North. Yeah. And I wanted to go, Yes, I do that. That kind of janky punk rock stuff. And then the other one, fittingly for our conversation today, when my partner got pregnant, I, I've been doing a bit of coaching in there, and then I've thought about that in the beginning.

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So I've got, it's called the wellness punk. It's all about those two strings. Lee Bowyer less fucking guy way less fucking guy. It's called a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it's wicked, but less is just like the long end of an amazing journey that Alex has been on. Creative journey that spanned all kinds of different genres.

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But the music and the is what most people know. Alex, for, from having heard the, the podcast for a long, long time, a lot of people listen to find or come across the that's anonymous now, the sort of sip that the people that the listeners are find called, like the wives and girlfriends and all of the other.

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And now listen to this podcast. But they would have, they would have probably heard of, Alex's music before. And he's one of my amazing things. But this, this wellness punk thing is fascinating to me. What what is it like? How do you help people? How do I how do people get involved? It, so it was when I first started coaching, I started doing, particular men's work.

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I run in a men's group, and then that it's kind of grown from there. The general philosophy of it is, help in helping you get in tune with the power of your own resourcefulness. So the, the core belief is that you have you everyone has the ability to sort their own shit out. How what are these three kind of ideas, exercises, framework.

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But often there's a mirror. Because when you're alone in the world, you can't. You know, you really have to work in the trees and find out what is the direction to go. What are the to take. So yeah, I'll help people create their own system of wellness. If you like their own system of living that work within. So there you go.

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I actually had a DM. It's like it's anonymous because, you know, and not an anonymous from a gentleman who did your course a couple of years ago or a year ago. Okay. Who listens to Lahtinen? And he was like, I'm fucking well, excited because you got Allen and I did his course a year ago and it was brilliant.

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And he was very, let's just say he was blowing a lot of smoke up your bottom. I'm gonna love it. I'll tell you. I'll tell you who was, Okay. Yeah. We'll pick up whoever that is. Yeah. Yes, I thought that's quality. Yeah. Nice one. What I did want, I like. So we are going to be.

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We're just going to be having a casual chat about, fatherhood, parenting styles, that kind of stuff. What I, what I kind of wanted to lead up to that was just a little bit about your, because we're all three of us. Quite, quite different. Lead up to where you were before you had your son. So, like, how do you like where you were living?

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Your lifestyle choices, all of that stuff, like it is to panic the hell out of me because I was very, shirt and tie, 9 to 5, kind of guy. Then you live in, in your in a caravan, and then the, was it the warehouse, like the studio? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that kind of journey of where you've been to, I think it's really, where you've come from is incredibly journey to where you are now as a father, because all that stuff and with your own father would shape how you are as a father.

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Do you know what I mean? So a lot of people know Flav, and I, and many a time, you know, about our journey, but just about, as a kind of, quick walk through about your. I mean, because I don't want to put words and you in your mouth and stuff. It's kind of like, you were always, not bound to society.

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Societal rules, you know what I mean? It was like you just did. You did your own thing. But I'll let you kind of, explain. Okay, so let me, I guess the bit when I find, partner was having a kid, I was living in a warehouse, so basically been had a beam it about the art for a long time.

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Yeah, right. When I was about 18, however, I was like, well, I don't care if I die by bed, I'm doing. I'll do my art that was. Yeah, thing I had. Yeah. So that obviously that combined with quite intense drug addiction. Yeah. Let me down a bit of the roach. But so it was a lot about self work for a long time to, to have the confidence to come out the closet, I guess with me are the upfront that this is what I do, because I had a program run in the, from school and all these things, you know, I'm sure some people listening to this could resonate, that you have something

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you love to do. Music, painting, whatever. And then someone supposedly teaches or something like, it tells you your shit and you're wrong. You're doing it. Go home. Shut up. Yeah, right. And you listen to him and you listen to him, and it creates a bit of a thing. So fast forward, like, I guess what you said about the society thing, I just it gave me.

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I found punk music and squat and rape culture and these kind of things that to me were a middle finger attitude that really, really gave me something a lot. Yeah. And that led me down the road and I guess living in caravans, and enjoying that to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, to me, living the choice of living as a hobo with a bag on your back and fucking up into the woods, if that's what you into, is totally valid.

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It's totally invalid if that's what you're bag and that's what gets you going, do it. What got? They got a long term caravan. What should be balls in a Tupperware box? Leave it like this. But when when, my partner's pregnancy came always in a warehouse doing the music, trying to build some sort of Beatles piece, and little bits of money.

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And just to be up front, God help me out quite a lot. Like hire me for a podcast. And did you know it was that I was surviving a few hundred quid in that, so very grateful for the help I got on that fucking road. But when the pregnancy kind of like, what am I? Okay, well, I'll get it.

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I you hear that a lot. Now, why in terms of like, there seems to be and I, I've, I don't know what it feels like. Right. I don't know what it feels like to be told by the person you love that you're having that going to have your child. What was that? You hear it quite a lot. There's a shift.

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It's like, oh, I've got to do. I've got to be something else or I've got to find a way. What is that real? Yeah. Oh, it's like, can it be like a brick? There's a photo of me, in a cafe in Bristol where we've gone, and then I think we've got the confirmation or something that afternoon that was like, this is actually happening and all I've lost in the void, like it's my face completely blank.

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I'm like, yeah. Oh, because it is real. Like when the news and to, you know, when the news come, there's lives that you're going to support. Yeah. Fuck. What am I going to do. So I didn't want to give up on to to me being a father or what I learned a lot from my dad was, he, you know, not anyone I decides in college to.

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But even devoutly on his own shit like he was doing his projects and just fucking on his mission. So to me, it was important. I didn't lose the musical. Lose the fear. These things I love. So I tried to figure out a way. That's where I thought coaching and helping people with their creativity and doing their own thing could complement the art and it's working out.

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Thankfully. So what? So it was just this shift in your brain when you heard it, like, I've got a I've got a switch on. I've got to find a way because I that, you know what? You just mentioned, like the one thing that you've never, ever lacked is an ability to create and do stuff and just get stuff done right.

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And the whole world is I found in, you know, my 44 years of being in that the world is full of people that don't do stuff right. They'll say they might, they want to, they'll desire to, they'll want to change their lives. But it's difficult because there are risks involved with doing that. And when you have a family and when you have a mortgage or even a credit card, it can kind of tie you to this commitment to have to pay back or do something that you have to go through something in order to fulfill an obligation that you've prior accepted.

00:22:37:11 – 00:23:09:19
So it it doesn't surprise me, actually, that you've been able to combine these, these two things in terms of make a business out of helping other people to, to, to do the thing they want to do. But it's, it's like, when you're I'd imagine when you're a father of, of a tiny little human being that, that sort of finding that that way to create business out of what something you're good at became like, intensified.

00:23:09:21 – 00:23:31:14
Yeah. Yeah. Well it put a rocket mast with it and one way talking about it. But the main problem to be frank was money. How am I going to get these tokens. I'm in too deep I because I didn't know what needed to be covered. It's just all thrown. It's your total threshold for everyone involved in it.

00:23:31:20 – 00:23:50:17
Oh, I've never in my entire life seen you as happy as you are now. A year in with your boy Amaris. Like you might not know, is it? I don't know if you do, but from my appearance as your brother, when I can hear you hear it in your voice and I see you. I've never seen you so happy.

00:23:50:19 – 00:24:19:01
Is that fair to say? To be pedantic. Yeah, I'll call it. I'll call it joy, not happiness. Yeah. That's fair. Please. Happiness to me is not dependent on me. Got to life circumstances. Not that the choice of joys is an attitude. He's taught me so much about choosing joy, even when shit is fucking hard. How?

00:24:19:03 – 00:24:51:24
How? Yeah. What's that like? Because, Because I'm intensely aware of, like what? The impressions that I give him about the world. And it's not easy. But I don't I don't want to transmit him the knife, pocket knife and shit, and it's difficult, and it sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did mention the one, though. That's a this is the feeling, the energy rather than it, you know, obviously can't necessarily understand what you're saying is the feeling that he's going to pick up can definitely pick up on stuff.

00:24:51:24 – 00:25:15:06
Right. So you got to maintain that that feeling for him and yourself okay. Yeah. And you and yeah know I think you see I think is joy. And it's a choice. And it's like a lot of joy goes into even when the side line if you feel down or whatever, which is it's a choice to lean into that and a book.

00:25:15:10 – 00:25:36:09
Quite a I don't know if you read this, but there's a book by Viktor Frankl called Man The Meaning. But it's a bit of a stark read. But he was in the concentration camp. He came out of that with this, how he went in as a psychotherapist, something he came out with books I could local logos therapy.

00:25:36:09 – 00:25:58:24
I might be watching that. But it was all about the choice of attitude, because what he noticed, the people in that fucking situation, which I don't think any of us can really fully comprehend. Yeah, right. But, there were people dead, found the beauty in the sunset, for instance. And there were people there who completely crumbled, and he pinned it to their choice about a suit.

00:25:59:01 – 00:26:19:20
And that that kind of stuck with me. Yeah. That is that's what it. Yeah. What interesting actually also like a strong statement because there'll be the I'd imagine there would have been a lot of kickback to that. But how you interpret or how you take, stoicism isn't it. It's about how do you, how do you react to what's happened to you.

00:26:19:20 – 00:27:00:19
You can't control necessarily, the things that are going to happen to you. Begin to troll how you absorb that information and how you deal with it and move forward. I think that that's kind of a the areas that I ended up with, you know, that, choosing to have a look at what is actually in your control is usually stuck within, within you rather than the external, I just wanted to, like, go back to, what you were saying, travel about, you know, where that I, when I went through, like a process of all of our partner turned around and said, oh, by the way, I'm pregnant.

00:27:00:19 – 00:27:29:00
And we were like, fuck, man, I've got, you know, I've, I've just remembering when you were saying that as well. I've got photos of, U2 with my misses with have her belly growing, screaming at her belly point and I this fucking load off my eyes, man, I just this is one of my favorite photos of me and I in the thick of it, of me having my first kids that this us that just that still hanging around together and being fucking it is it is mental man.

00:27:29:05 – 00:27:56:20
But what I wanted, what I wanted to ask you, Flav. Right when we were growing up and stuff, and you kind of like, I didn't want kids and just, you know, quite happy, partying and doing, doing whatever. But then you meet your wife, and she has two very, very young children. Like, that is a fucking don't in thing to walk into, you know, I mean, not how was it that you how did you feel about it?

00:27:56:20 – 00:28:16:11
Were you like, I'll just I'll just do this because I fancy this bird at the moment, and that's what I'm going to do. Or was it kind of like, you know what I let's, let's do this. Let's see how this go. Like, I can't imagine not processing that part. I was doing a lot of drugs back then. Okay.

00:28:16:17 – 00:28:36:03
And which meant that I didn't think a lot a great deal about it. And it was a period between breaking up with my long term ex partner and not knowing that freedom to do whatever I wanted to do, which essentially go out and get smashed as much as I could and shag women that that's basically what I wanted to do.

00:28:36:05 – 00:29:05:07
And I did that for, for about I did that for a while, like I was broken up was in this faux open relationship with my ex girlfriend for a couple of years, so I did I had a couple of years and then, so I walked into every single one of these, like, happenings or coming togethers of, just purely on a sort of physical and, nothing intellectual about it really at all.

00:29:05:09 – 00:29:29:17
And then when I met Ollie on holiday again, it was, say, a holiday was a festival. So you can imagine, again, full of MDMA and. Yeah. So you're not really making sense. But I really enjoyed talking to her and everybody I met at that festival, and before that she was, So I kept thinking about her and, and so what we did is it was very slowly.

00:29:29:17 – 00:29:52:01
And I didn't meet her children for six months. And she was really guarded about that. And careful. But we had this really emotional conversation on the phone after about 4 or 5 months. And what I realized this is I have really strong feelings for that, that that this moment where I meet the kids, I kind of have to actually happen.

00:29:52:03 – 00:30:10:20
And I remember saying, I really want to meet them. I really, really want to meet them. And I remember getting she very rarely cries ever, like maybe 3 or 4 times in the 12 years we've been together. And, yeah, she was she was quite emotional on the, on the phone. And then I just met them really.

00:30:10:20 – 00:30:25:15
And I just sort of went with it. I sort of, I didn't care. I didn't mind about being that she had two kids. I didn't it didn't bother me. I didn't think about it at all. I was just in love with her and and I knew she had two kids. She told me the first day I met her in Portugal in a tent, that she had two kids.

00:30:25:15 – 00:30:56:21
So it wasn't. It wasn't something I wasn't aware of. So yeah, I went from being not wanting kids at all. And I honestly think actually that I was kind of brainwashed into that to some degree, because and there's no blame here at all. But my ex-girlfriend ultimately didn't want children. And I just sort of when you're with someone who feels so strongly about that, what I realized now as an adult, looking back at very young, you know, impressionable early 20s that, that I probably was manipulated into thinking that that's what I wanted.

00:30:56:21 – 00:31:24:15
When in reality, as as I'm reaching an age where having kids is probably not the right thing to do. That I wished I had had that, I wish I'd wish that done. It. Well, I mean, no question. Yeah. Go now. And what words go? Well, what's wrong about. Well, hypothetically, what would be wrong with that?

00:31:24:21 – 00:31:34:16
Mr.,

00:31:34:18 – 00:31:57:12
Is that is that to the, you know, I mean, I'm going to be her answer for half or not not not, not, answer on his behalf. But I think like that there's that obviously. You're of an age that where, you know, Ross is had, kids, right. And sometimes it's, you know, it's all right.

00:31:57:12 – 00:32:34:22
Right? It's all right. Thank you. Yeah. So I, I was fucking scrapping him for scrapping it. I was out on the hill. I've got dirt under my nails. My train has come off. I was like, what the fuck? Oh. I'm just realizing as an as an older man, as I'm getting older, that it's just something that I should have done and wanted and would have wanted to do and, because I see it and, you know, the relationships between the child and the parent isn't something you can, you can't recreate.

00:32:34:22 – 00:32:55:05
And it's a magical thing, a wonderful thing. And I think, at my age, I just think it's I don't feel like I would, I don't know, I don't feel like I want to do it. I wish I had done it, and I feel like I've missed missed the missed the boat. And my wife said to me, she's such an amazing woman.

00:32:55:07 – 00:33:10:00
She said to me a couple of years ago that if you want to, we can. We still can. We can 100% do this. But I know she I know deep down that she doesn't want to she would have done it for me and she would have loved it and become a great parent as she has been. And it wouldn't have been an issue.

00:33:10:00 – 00:33:29:14
But I think deep down I don't think she would. She wanted to do that. She's done it twice and and she is a parent, but it felt like she was willing to do that for me, which I was really bowled over by. One amazing, most amazing, amazing thing anyone's ever said to me. Probably. So, yeah.

00:33:29:16 – 00:33:52:09
I also, I don't know how long I don't feel like I'm gonna. I don't feel like I'm gonna reach 85. Right. Unless bit bleak. You said this on this podcast so many times, and I'm like, it blows my mind every time you say it, I don't think. I don't think I'm gonna. I don't think I will, so I do.

00:33:52:09 – 00:34:10:10
I want to, but, I think the one I want to I'm making a choice to bring a life into the world. And what if I don't? And then what? That kid's got what? I don't know, I kind of think about that a little bit as well. Also, Alex, I don't have the. I don't feel young, right?

00:34:10:11 – 00:34:34:08
I don't feel it's a lot of work and a lot of the time and energy and stuff. I just, I've kind of mourned a moment where I could have done done it, and, It's hard to articulate. I don't know how to articulate. Sounds a bit, if you don't mind me saying. Sounds a bit like a kind of grief about something that there's a there's a beautiful word in, this might be inaccurate in Welsh.

00:34:34:08 – 00:34:58:00
I think it's here. I think it's kind of a longing or, nostalgia or missing for something you never even quite experienced. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think I realize how amazing it is until I kind of. And I don't want you to feel any way about this, Alex. But when I watch you with Empress, and I've seen my brothers with all their kids, and it felt like none of us had kids.

00:34:58:02 – 00:35:18:07
And then all of a sudden, the kids were everywhere, you know? I mean, like, like my brother has free. Ross has to. Adam has free. Joe's got two. And I remember a time when none of us did, and we'd just go out and get smashed every weekend, right? I don't want to do that. That's not what I'm looking for.

00:35:18:07 – 00:35:45:10
But I'm just like, it felt like everybody created this and I didn't. And I think in, in hindsight, if I'd met Ollie when I was 25, I would 100% have kids now, without question, I would have. But it's not the way life goes. And I just feel like that the I think genuinely having not had it, the most amazing thing is having children is the be all and end all to me.

00:35:45:12 – 00:36:05:07
I think that's what this is. I point if there is any point to us being on this planet, it's having a child. That's the only thing you can do, things you can make, art, you can be a successful businessman. You can get in the best physical shape possible, but in the end, you die regardless of what you've done during your life.

00:36:05:07 – 00:36:26:18
The one thing that remains is your legacy, which is the babies, the children, the child. I think that is the point. And even that in itself doesn't explain anything. But you know, what I mean is that that's how I feel about it. It's really, I can I must cry about every other episode of this fucking podcast. Ricky, stop asking my medical stuff.

00:36:26:20 – 00:36:46:16
It was your brother that asked you. It, don't I like, as a as a kind of, The topic for next week, even before this and what was going to happen, but the, the, the topic for next week is going to be 911 Osama bin Ladan. So what I would love for that one.

00:36:46:16 – 00:37:15:15
Well I'm good. It's good. It's going to be fucking glorious next week. So there'll be no crying unless. Yeah, she won't terrorists. But was going to say out like, I've, I've got loads of questions here and I kind of sorry. Like, well, yeah. The same kind of thing to you. Like, what was your experience when you got the news and things like this?

00:37:15:17 – 00:37:41:01
Well, first of all, I was trying to work out where, my, where my daughter when my daughter had been conceived, the like when did that happen? Fucking, you know, and all that. Like. And it was one of, funnily enough, it was one of Ryan's party nights. Ran this flat, went back, I mean, done a fucking obviously off our heads.

00:37:41:03 – 00:38:06:03
But I was living in London. I was I was 29 years old. I was like, I've always wanted to be a father. I knew that from a young age. But like, my dream was always to to go to London, make it to London, be in London, live the London life, be be with the missus and all that.

00:38:06:03 – 00:38:39:13
That. And then I had this kid and I was like, fuck, I'm not going have to do this in London. There is no way I can bring a kid up in London. And then all those things kind of race around. But to be honest with you, I could. It was one of those things I knew that I always this is one thing that I knew, that I wanted when, when I was younger, my sister, had her first boy, Tate, in 2000, so I was, I how old was I then?

00:38:39:18 – 00:38:59:14
I would have been like 18 or something like that. And I was cradling this little baby, this little baby. And I was watching TV and I was just like, I want this, that, I want one of these. This is fucking. This is mental. So I always kind of knew knew that, that I wanted to be a dad at some point.

00:38:59:14 – 00:39:21:03
But then when you're 29 and living the life that we were living in London, I was like, this is not a time. I think I realized that so that the news came to you in the midst of the big pill day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much. Yeah yeah yeah. Okay. Yeah. Both to, if we can, we can say this.

00:39:21:03 – 00:39:38:08
Rick. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Just you use off your nuts on MDMA. Yeah. We were. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Well, I, I didn't realize I had to do that. Yeah I know, I know, but we talked about this before. Yeah we have. Yeah, yeah. Stop flinging it up when you have an MBA. Yeah. Nice.

00:39:38:08 – 00:40:10:10
Give us a good carry. But yeah. So obviously there was a there was nerves. There was the money thing as well. We've had quite a few people emailing as well, but they're about to become their fathers and they're just like a bit worried about all of it. And we've had, a couple of people that, you know, have emailed in as well about, where they're going into with the, you know, stepdad situation and they don't really know how to handle themselves.

00:40:10:15 – 00:40:37:23
They don't know, you know, with the ex-partners. And what's their role as in, can I discipline that boy? Can can I, can I give him values? Do I stand back? Like, where where is my place in this? So there's been quite a few people that are in both, both sets of where we all are. And like, no one really knows what what they're doing and how to how to get through it.

00:40:38:00 – 00:41:03:10
And I've got oh yeah, I've got all these, questions here. I don't care about them because I was not really interested in, when you're talking to you out is like, it almost feels like I'm talking to a therapist. But it feels like I'm talking to someone that is quite in touch with their emotions. And I knew that this kind of pod was going to be about that.

00:41:03:12 – 00:41:31:17
And what kind of really interests me is the the relationship that you have with your son. And maybe I'm quite interested in your, how you would not discipline him, but, you know, behavior boundaries and stuff like that because I'm very uptight. And if I was, I'm actually, I'm not very uptight. But back in the day when I was walking with my daughter, I'm walking down the supermarket and she lays on the floor and she's kicking off and I'm like, you fucking.

00:41:31:17 – 00:41:58:20
You fucking go on fucking back. And you in a minute, you fucking get up now! Oh yeah. Oh it's cool, I go, I is on a yes. Yeah. I'm doing my best to fuck fucking with, Lucy. Right. Get up. But I dunno, I just assume that you're. I don't know why. It's like if your son was misbehaving, you would be more.

00:41:58:22 – 00:42:29:20
He's just in his emotions. He's just being himself. Like, let's let's take a step back. Let him be whoever let him deal with what he's going through. And then, you know, like it's that, right? I'm just assuming that. Or is it you still kind of like. I mean, obviously you would be like, don't fucking steal and don't like, be racist or don't be like, you know, but I just I'm just interested in your, your, your dad was quite strict, I think when we were growing up.

00:42:29:22 – 00:42:52:07
Yeah. Like to Ricky's point. Okay. I'd like to ask God, what do you do? You take any learning from it? That's not a bad thing to say. Do you take any learning from how you as a parent, do you go into it and go, because I, I do my kids, I think things that I wasn't happy with as a step with my step parents growing up, I tried to do something different for them.

00:42:52:07 – 00:43:15:20
But do you do you take that anything into it? Right. Alex. Yeah, I think that's, the name of the game in it. Yeah. And then the game and then I think, I'm assuming my son will play the similar game review, review his experience of me and take what was good and hopefully grow it and what wasn't that good.

00:43:15:22 – 00:43:44:22
Nip it in the bud will change it. Yeah. The old man was, Yeah. Strict. But I I've got a great plan, but I work with kids on one just term one, so. And it could all change if you have it been any discipline of what does it need to be? But for one, I, sometimes I put them just in the oven for a bit.

00:43:44:24 – 00:44:11:24
For a bit, yeah. I don't turn it on. I'll just, Oh no, no, no, nothing about that. That was a joke for anyone in this. It take that quote out and whatever, but, no, it's only one. So I think at the moment I read some, something somewhere that up until five, three, it's kind of the little royalty, right?

00:44:11:24 – 00:44:36:15
The grains are still for and everything's about them, and it's, it's less about, district boundaries. Like, no, don't do don't cross this line. It's less about that and more and guide that. It's just so they're done. So well and they don't, themselves. And so at the moment and the example of that and the other so he'll, a reach up and try and touch the hub.

00:44:36:17 – 00:44:59:12
Right. He did a couple of times. And obviously that's, that requires some kind of boundary. Yeah. So instead of guys know and doing you're wrong. What we tried to do is you know, it's either go like that as if, like the noise you'd make if someone burnt around. Yeah. Yeah. And he would even pull designed, but it shook.

00:44:59:13 – 00:45:21:13
And then you started crying. But you seem it seemed to work all right, because. No, you look at the oven, they'll go, oh. Ooh. That is, that might might be kind of noise. So yeah, I, by no means perfect. Like, because like, that, Sydney meal was quite strict and militant in a lot of ways. Do you remember?

00:45:21:13 – 00:45:50:02
Can out go outside. Can I get buckets of cold water to not do that? Yeah I do, I do. It was why why haven't I run it a little live now there's a lot of. Like But hang on a second. We just came up with something concise. Come on, give me some context of that. So we used to go to a caravan in, in Essex every weekend, which was, which is good fun, but it was just like getting away from London.

00:45:50:02 – 00:46:08:15
Right. And it was just. It's quite nice every weekend town, like a little tiny holiday. Anyway, there was no running water in the caravan, right? There was a, tank which you could draw drinking water from, but you couldn't like. It wasn't like there was. It was like a static caravan. Right. So it wasn't plumbed into the mains or stuff.

00:46:08:17 – 00:46:27:13
So I had 2 or 2 things. One, it's it was about kind of resilience building. You'd go out there and you'd have freezing cold water trapped on you, and you did feel good off that. You felt exhilarated. Right? Weren't like it was a mean thing. It wasn't intended to be mean. And the second thing is, obviously it's water and you'd have a good wash afterwards as well.

00:46:27:15 – 00:46:56:16
So it wasn't like without reason we were having freezing water for it. I suppose that context is really important. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just said this thing of yeast you haven't eaten. You did not roll bucket time. No, no. It was strict, so I. Yeah. So basically, in relation to my son, there are times where I see that pattern in me of, a bit of a disciplinarian and stuff like that.

00:46:56:17 – 00:47:23:19
So you're trying to be a bit aware of it and, no. Like, God, sit tight. Will work and try and adapt a bit. What maybe could be better. I not my, my old man. He will be listening to this. So I've, I've got to be careful what I say. But first of all you're a dick.

00:47:23:21 – 00:47:45:05
There you go. Have that. You can hear that now I have. No, but I was very kind of, what I used to do is I used to be mean to my daughters, like. And it would only come out of, like, pure frustration. And I knew my youngest daughter. I hated being called a baby. Oh, stop being a baby.

00:47:45:07 – 00:48:05:04
And it would only come out when I needed her to do something. And I would do it. And I knew it upset her, and afterwards I just wanted to rip my own skin off and be like, why have I fucking done that? And I learned myself to catch myself doing that because I knew what I was doing and I was like, fuck, why am I doing that?

00:48:05:04 – 00:48:34:05
Like. And it's like a learned behavior, like my old man, he would've done it to me and my sister. And it's like, it's that thing of that's what I grew up with. So then I kind of like, you know, like, you know, you're a product of your environment, a product of your parent. And so then I would do that and then I was I realize that, you know, because my daughter, didn't bring our plates down and, you know, that that's what only a baby would do, that like you were a baby.

00:48:34:07 – 00:48:52:19
And I was like, I could just see the heartbreak and the sadness of, like, But he. He thinks I'm a baby, and I need to do. But I'm not. Did you stop bringing this stuff now? She didn't. She fucking still. Doesn't she fucking, like, six years older from when that was.

00:48:52:21 – 00:48:55:24
I should have kept up with that.

00:48:56:01 – 00:49:13:03
I, that regret I've had as well. Like that parent regret. And, this is something you. This might be helpful. Alex is that. And you you you say these things? I Ricky said stuff about a baby in the youngest, youngest ever, youngest. And that he knew that it was going to hurt her feelings. And he did it anyway.

00:49:13:05 – 00:49:34:06
Yeah. But you were trying. The end result was a positive one, which is you're trying to get her to be responsible for taking the fucking plates down, right? Yeah. We also, and catching myself knowing that what I was doing, you know, I could have gone throughout my entire life doing that exact thing and just not even and just really kind of destroying her could have been damaging to her.

00:49:34:08 – 00:50:01:15
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Or you've already damaged or. And the damage is done. Yeah. I'm hoping it's the second one that would build some resilience in her. But we. So you have this moment where especially with. So in this instance similar to your situation Rick, where the first child typically seems to be the most studious and willing to please and want to stay in the parameters of, the rules.

00:50:01:17 – 00:50:25:08
Oh, yeah. Me. Right. And the first and second child slightly different. The once feral wants to do things on their own, like the the me and Alex, the first child. Second child. Oh, yeah. 80s the second child syndrome. It's obviously because I've always done it. I've always been much more comfortable inside the lines. Right. Of of of of what I think I should do.

00:50:25:10 – 00:50:52:15
And that's what I wanted to be and want to be. Whereas Alex is, by all the things he's already described, wasn't like that. And so and often the second child in my experience is harder to parent because they the conventional ways of pairing don't work as well. So the same with Will different doesn't want to go Khloe very happy in the lane and be reactive.

00:50:52:15 – 00:51:09:01
Doesn't want to be told off. Is willing to please and will do the things at school not to to do homework. She doesn't want get in trouble, right? She doesn't want the consequences of not doing it. Whereas Will was I. I don't give a shit about the consequences, so I will do it. The tension every single day. I ain't doing my fucking homework outside of school.

00:51:09:03 – 00:51:23:18
And in a way, as an outsider, I'm like, okay, you know, fair play, right? If he's willing to accept the consequences, fine. I don't say that to him because I'm trying to. I just I don't know why I feel like that. Least you have to push back a little. A little bit. I don't know, maybe not. I'm. Maybe I'm doing the wrong thing.

00:51:23:20 – 00:51:47:19
But there have been moments where I've snapped at him and have really regretted, and I've really thought about how often to my correcting him, is he going to get a point where I'm doing it because I love him, and I want him to be able to, I don't know what I want, really. I just feel like bad behavior has to be corrected.

00:51:47:21 – 00:52:10:12
If it is bad behavior, if you're being disrespectful, it has to be corrected. And even if it's uncomfortable, if you're preventing someone else from seizing an opportunity because you don't want that opportunity, that should be corrected. There's right and wrong stuff that's, quite binary about, not wanting to necessarily, you know, give everything at school because he finds it so tedious and boring.

00:52:10:14 – 00:52:35:15
That's less of an issue for me anyway. So the growing up, kind of feel like there have been moments where I've been so in quick succession, like in a week I might have shot him three times because he's done something. And at the time I had a really big I actually had some, I would say less counseling, but more life coaching about this issue where I would bring up my mate who had gone through this is parent of six kids.

00:52:35:17 – 00:53:05:14
His father was, an alcoholic who died when he was very young. And, and so he's gone on to be a life coach and do good stuff. And I remember speaking to him about it and getting really help, like, just so that I didn't feel so bad about it. And how to control myself going forward. So it was it didn't go beyond being, discipline it, the disciplinarian to the point where he feels worried or scared or sad.

00:53:05:16 – 00:53:23:00
And that was really hard to get to that point. I think we've got there a lot of great relationship now, and I don't think he resents being a hope. He doesn't. But there have been times in the past, I think I might have gone over the top that would lead to resentment. So that would my experiences. But fuck that.

00:53:23:00 – 00:53:53:16
That resonated with me then, because my I have exactly the same, right? Exactly the same with my youngest. And what you've just described there. Well, and my and my oldest daughter, if she had a problem to like, she would WhatsApp me straight away or call me or whatever. My youngest I, I don't know if she would and I don't know if she would feel like she's just gonna get shout out or she's just going to get and I've all I've, I have so many conversations with her saying that I get frustrated.

00:53:53:16 – 00:54:13:08
I'm never angry. Know, I just get a bit frustrated and my might be a bit vocal. But if there's anything ever going on in your life like I'm, I'm the first person behind you to support you, not tag me in and I'm fucking there. Like, what will will attack it together. But no matter how many times I say that, I'll put that point across.

00:54:13:10 – 00:54:36:16
I think she'll always go to her mum and she would always be like, I can't tell you because you'll be just going to go fucking mad. So I don't know whether I've kind of broken that trust already, or she just feels like that's just going to go mad that, you know, that's what that's do that the grumpy kind of just man sitting there.

00:54:36:18 – 00:55:00:20
Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. No yeah yeah yeah. So yeah it's yeah it's tough. It's fucking tough being a parent man. But Yeah, yeah, that just made me realize, you know. And so that's easy to do with, blokes, a mother daughter duo like, they have that, well, feminine bond. Yeah. I think you might be right, man.

00:55:00:20 – 00:55:29:20
Yeah. Because they are very, I would. You know what I'd say my eldest is, is very I mean, she's quite equal, but she is not a proper daddy's girl. My youngest straight a straight to her mum in any circumstance. But I remember my my sister when I was growing up, she was very, mothers go, I think a lot of a mother daughter relationship so very strong out.

00:55:29:22 – 00:55:54:14
And they kind of, Yeah, they would go to also like, they have. Donna is so soft. She is so soft. Yeah. Ricky's the Ricky's the one that has to go. No. Yeah. He's gone. Just. Yeah. What? I yeah. It's every night. Yeah, yeah. For crisp crisps before 9:00 in the morning. Come on. It's basically potato innit.

00:55:54:16 – 00:56:20:17
It's basically potato. So you might as well. So you know the, the, no the little one Alex has that a so she finds school a lot more difficult than her older sister. And so they have this sort of reward system. So, yeah, if you do stuff, good stuff, you get green stickers. If you do bad stuff like lip or lip after the teacher arrive at your lesson, like you get red stuff, right?

00:56:20:22 – 00:56:40:21
But Ricky was like, if you get more red stars and green stars, you can't have the tree at the weekend, which is a McDonald's. It was like, you can't do it. And just for weeks, she just couldn't get she couldn't say she won't. She went about six weeks about getting a McDonald's. And she loves a McDonald's. Right. Eat.

00:56:40:23 – 00:57:02:14
We said if you get more than three red stamps, it's a no go, no go. And then she finally, got I think she got two red stands. But, so she was, you know, rewarded with the McDonald's. But the other day, oh, it's like, I don't know, would have given it a McDonald's every week. I mean, j easy does it doesn't he probably doesn't even know this green and red fucking thing exists.

00:57:02:16 – 00:57:25:08
It's just you have to try and draw a line. And I thought, bad guy, but someone has to be the policeman around there. Yeah. The other day, I was like, I was walking to school. This is fucking Monday, right? Monday morning, walking my daughters to the bus stop. It's 7:30 in the morning and I walk them there. And I'm saying to my youngest, I'm saying that right, let's do this.

00:57:25:09 – 00:57:52:17
You know, the red stamps, the red stars or whatever. Please skirt down. It's easy. All you got to do is have a skirt that is acceptable, like your sister. Like, just just have it to where it's supposed to be. Stationery. Just. Just have the stationery ready. That's easy. I will literally put your pencil case in your bag, write your calculators in there when you were like, don't backchat to teachers and stuff.

00:57:52:19 – 00:58:11:19
Just when they say it, just take it and that's it. You'll be fine. I'm telling her all these things. She's like, yes that, yes, that. Yeah, absolutely. And this was at half seven, her first lesson. 920 I looked on the app. She's got a red thing because she hasn't got the stationery out. And I'm like, I'm trying to help you.

00:58:11:21 – 00:58:33:16
It's not I know I know it ain't there full. No it's not the way their brains work. They're not engaged. But I think shit about the skirt, they don't care about the stationery. No, they like Will. It says these things and it he doesn't. He just doesn't care. You don't want to be there. And that's hard to follow the rules when you just don't want to be there.

00:58:33:16 – 00:59:01:18
I respect. Yeah. You need to come on air with you. You didn't want to be at secondary school, did you, mate? Nine nine. Oh, the charity. Doing that. That's horrible. What did you say? It's horrific. You terrific man. What? Did you hate it that much? Yeah, yeah I've got I mean I've got on but I, I it was just bad.

00:59:01:20 – 00:59:30:21
It was bad. It was just. I think you creatively, I found it creatively oppressive in the, in the end, that turned out alright for the better. But I can't quite, yeah, it was suppressive of creativity. It just loads of bullying, loads fights like, just kind of a just, I don't on reflection and just knew that it's an environment.

00:59:31:01 – 00:59:53:18
I don't think it's good for children. Yeah, yeah I think London school's out. I would say mine was identical. While it was violent, it was horrible. It wasn't conducive to a a learning environment at all. Which is why it's amazing where you live. Alex and Ricky's out of London as well, I think. London, honestly, I wouldn't want to bring a kid up in London.

00:59:53:18 – 01:00:22:18
I really wouldn't. No, no no no no. I think one thing it definitely gave was a sense to them ultimately sense of independent, commercial, street smart, like learning how to not the triggers that and I and you know how how people can be how they kind of can gang up how, how you how not to get your head kicked in as well, which is, is a valuable skill.

01:00:22:20 – 01:00:41:24
We actually spoke about that last week. Didn't mean, was it last, pop culture. And when you go to the pub, you learn about the boundaries of people and, you know, different characters and how you can say that you can be with and what people can switch up on you and just being aware of your surroundings of, oh, yeah, it's fun.

01:00:42:05 – 01:01:07:06
Yeah. So I'll just say it's one thing I've been thinking about. Obviously it's still early years, but, against the context. I'm now in south west Wales and we just got a place in, near somewhere called cardigan. But we're in the sticks. We're going into the wood stream ballroom. You all know. Yeah. More remote than me on that.

01:01:07:08 – 01:01:35:14
You drive slightly, but it's right. We're in the Bluestone Mountains, where, the Preseli with some of the stones from Stone time, from, whatever it is, I. Whilst I have such a beautiful upbringing, I'm really grateful to the journey in the. There's a need the key to be able to operate also in environments like London. I don't not go there and be like, oh my God, this is I haven't got, you know what I mean?

01:01:35:14 – 01:01:46:02
So I do think like how how will I expose him to, baby club, baby Fight club that regard. I'll just.

01:01:46:04 – 01:02:09:03
I've just I've literally just come up with that. That's what we need, Alex. That's what you need. That's what we do. I think I'm in the right place to do it. We won't be bothered by a build. Nothing. No. Find a clearing? Yeah, yeah. Very clear. Cut the scaffold poles for a ring, mate. Might be a little much better this year in.

01:02:09:05 – 01:02:38:10
The in the fight club. It's just you and your son. That's the only people in the club can having it. Baby fight club. Right. Throwing on club. Yeah. I was going to say, we, I'm going to be going on it. Does anyone else, anyone else want to. Was it any of the questions that I sent over that you wanting to get off your chest or that you wanted to talk about or anything like that, or you just quite, quite happy?

01:02:38:12 – 01:03:00:19
Not none spring to mind. That's good. No, no, I fly, mate, I, you know, I just tell response the monster. It was a rabbit. No, no, it's fine. You don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah I can, I can I can I just say something? No, you fucking can't. Just, just quickly, just quickly. Is that, critically? So just kidding.

01:03:00:21 – 01:03:24:14
If anyone thinks of trademarking Baby Fight Club, I've already done it. I've just done a and also, when I got a bit emotional earlier, that's not to suggest that I don't completely value my stepchildren now I do. I love them to bits, I do and, one of the greatest things about getting into relationship with my wife is and I didn't know at the time that they would be a part of it.

01:03:24:14 – 01:03:51:09
And I've gained two kids that I didn't have before. I would have, and it's an amazing thing. And, I'm grateful for it. And yeah, step parenting is a very different thing, I think, to having a biological child. But it it's no less rewarding. I don't think so. I just wanted to say that I don't think anyone I don't think anyone would have, thought that anyway, so there's that.

01:03:51:09 – 01:04:08:04
But we've got that grass that keeps grassing up. You know, the podcast. I don't know someone. Someone listen to the podcast crossing with you up to done. Yeah. Yeah. Well done. His mates. Yeah. And I can't. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Listen, I know, I know, you're listening. Snake in the grass. Yeah. It's because he put grass them up.

01:04:08:04 – 01:04:31:12
Because he put milk in his bolognaise. And, no, I still it's weird, but apparently quite traditional thing. It is. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. So milk. Yeah. And the sauce. Yeah. And she's got message messages. Donovan called Ricky an animal. Is that what you're doing in your household? Yeah, yeah. So, Okay. Yeah, we know you are.

01:04:31:14 – 01:04:55:06
What you want to eat, right? We all got we're going to do a someone, you know. Right. The topic for next week is like, we did the Titan, the a submersible, I was I'm not a yes. I do them make people keep sending me fucking videos of nutty party stuff. She's not nice. I bit people, but people stuck in caves.

01:04:55:08 – 01:05:17:06
People stuck in caves. We did that entire episode of people getting stuck in caves, right? Google the nutty Putty incident. It's mentally I mean, maybe don't. Okay, it's it's dark. It's very dark. We did we did an hour insane. And the Titan submersible, you know, the Titan that went like that. Yeah, yeah, we did an hour and not.

01:05:17:06 – 01:05:55:20
No, it was good. Yeah, well, the billionaire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was a kid in there as well. Not. Not a little kid. He was about seven. I'm not sad just because they're billionaires. I knew where you're coming from. Okay? Were billionaires. When they say fuck. Oh, so next week we are going to be doing like. Like I said earlier, we're going to be, talking about nine, 11, Osama bin laden, that everything to do with that, there's actually someone that listens to this podcast, and I know I'm talking to this person right now, and, I will I want to do a podcast with them, an episode with them.

01:05:56:00 – 01:06:20:03
But they were in one of the towers that it was collapsing. They were in one of the towers. And as they're running down the stairwell, rocks and everything was collapsing over their head, and they managed to get out. Kane. Yeah, that is fucking heavy in it. I've got a day of school for that digit decay. His. Oh, yeah, we got it when I got the day of school.

01:06:20:07 – 01:06:44:02
Why did you get the towers? What do you I, I, I get married, I feel it's not a real get out of it. Second towers go down. Go, go. It was fucking crazy with it. Yeah, I meant the time. I was watching neighbors, and, it just switched over to the two towers, and one of them was on.

01:06:44:04 – 01:06:57:23
And you watch the way it was. Talk about this next week. But you watch the second plane go in. Most surreal, you know, is this a film? It's meant mental. Well, so we got him coming on next episode. Well, no, he's not coming on. I'm not saying that I know I'm talking to him. That that I will get him on.

01:06:57:23 – 01:07:13:21
Why don't you get him? Surely it makes sense on the 911 podcast to get someone who was in the towers on the park? Yeah, I you know what? I'm, I'm going to message him after this to see if I. Come on. Is he in America? He is in America. Yeah. All right. Well, who do you talk about this after?

01:07:13:23 – 01:07:41:20
Yeah, yeah. So we're going to be talking about that. If anyone has any experiences or want to share a story about 911, send it in to lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. The something I you know, it's called horny hung over and horribly regretful. Yeah. Go into that now. Just a quick message, Tom tom thing. You know.

01:07:41:22 – 01:08:06:22
What? I fucked up a four second gen jingle. Well, if you click a click nor liberate. So you just started hearing in the read for. No. All right. So click one button. I'm writing it. I ain't. Yeah that's fine. Well we'll leave it. We'll leave a slide okay. Hi, lads. Love the pod. Some of your dirtiest stories got me thinking about fucked up stuff I've done when horny.

01:08:06:24 – 01:08:37:12
From fucking duvets to keeping cum cups in my bedroom drawer when I was 16, because I was too lazy to get tissue to having a wank in the shitter at work because I was bored. We've all been there right? In my early 20s, I lived with my girlfriend and her parents. I work nights at the time, and I always found myself super horny when I was practically asleep and deserved to treat myself after a hard night.

01:08:37:14 – 01:09:05:24
One particular morning shattered, horny, and after a few lonesome post-work beers in bed. Tragic. Horny. I notice at about 8 a.m. everyone had left the work for house, my girlfriend's parents included, with my tired hands wrapped around my cock. I started imagining what it would be like to fuck my girlfriend's mum. Now it's wrong. It wasn't attractive. She wasn't attractive.

01:09:06:01 – 01:09:34:21
She was in her mid-sixties. And on the larger side while living there. I've seen her walking around in 90, and it's not the best of sites. But in my sleepy haze, I thought, fuck it, I'd probably do it for the balance. Now, while I might be fucked up, I'm not that fucked up. The next best thing I could think of was having a wank in her worn granny pants.

01:09:34:23 – 01:10:07:11
So I did exactly that. I went into her bedroom, rummaged around through her washing basket and found a pair of dirty underwear. Now how do I know they were worn? Well, I made sure to find some of that nice crusty crotch in the Nicorette area. I inhaled them and they and then wrap them around my cock. I stood in the bedroom with their pants around my cock and quickly blew my load into the post wank.

01:10:07:13 – 01:10:33:22
What the fuck have I done? Settled in and I questioned everything about myself. What the fuck am I going to do with these granny pants covered in, covered in all dried crust and my cum? I quickly ran down the stairs, grab a carrier bag, put them in and hide them in my work bag. When I wake up, she's made me dinner and asked if I slept well, yes, I did, thank you.

01:10:33:24 – 01:10:54:22
If only she knew. On the way to work that night, I pulled the carrier bag out of my bag, out of my work bag, and launched it into a field at which I was driving at 60mph, never to be seen again. So when you come across some random underwear in some bushes, you never know the story behind it.

01:10:54:24 – 01:11:21:18
And that, lads, is something only I know. So we've just had a really wholesome chat about parenting and, yeah, I mean, people need to get it. Well, I mean, she was a parent, so she's. Yeah, she's all connected. I do, you know, I once knew a lad who did something similar. He was he went to a rave and he went to rave.

01:11:21:18 – 01:11:41:07
Of all these people, they stayed in a hotel. He went back early and when they all got back from the afters and it was like 6 or 7 in the morning, they open the hotel room, door, and he was in bed and they were, oh, like, I don't know, Dave's in beds and not well. He's got a weird smile on his face, one that we been dreaming about.

01:11:41:07 – 01:12:02:10
What he's been looking at, and they kind of, like, pulled the duvet down and just to see, they pulled it down further and he was naked, but he had a pair of knickers wrapped around this. Oh boy. So obviously it been on the gear, got horny, got these knickers and started cracking one off. And then one of the girls that found him was like, there my knickers.

01:12:02:10 – 01:12:24:16
Yeah, they're my knickers. And he woke up obviously incredibly embarrassed. And the sad thing about it, these groups completely lost contact. No one heard from him after that. He was so embarrassed and ashamed of what he'd done. He just. Yeah. Just. Just left you with a solid relationship. And if he hadn't done that. Yeah, I was making him.

01:12:24:18 – 01:12:40:16
I mean, that is fucking. Yeah. That is a, you know, to be found in that predicament. The way that Blake describes everything, it was the right. Yeah. What's the historical story of it? I mean, it just made me feel a bit sick inside, right? Yeah. I mean, it's weird, and it's not even like the the mother in no way fit or anything.

01:12:40:16 – 01:13:13:02
No. Hello? What have you. Why have you done this? He must've been really horny and really, just, like, let's just let's see what I want to do. I want to get a sample of you saying super horny. I is super horny. Super. That was a bad one. I think the best. The worst one was the bloke who thought he might like to, hook up with the bloke on grinder and, then turned up with a Holiday Inn, and the bloke didn't quite look how he said he looked.

01:13:13:02 – 01:13:37:18
In fact, he was sort of like a late 50s, chubby, chubby Greek bear. Yeah. And, but he didn't want to be in polite society. I'm off anyway. Yeah, I the, the whole lot of him, because there were definitely no cameras in there. He said he just did his mouth and then spot it in the sink and then walked out the hotel room and then decided, no, he wasn't the guy.

01:13:37:18 – 01:14:02:03
After a great, kind hearted man didn't want to be raid. Yeah, the proper British. That is proper phrase. This has been a great job, guys. Yeah, it has been. It's been a brilliant episode. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Next week, 911. Sending anything that you've got to, lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. Patrons, if you're this well you are listening.

01:14:02:04 – 01:14:23:20
You're going to get this podcast now Friday the 23rd which is our two year anniversary. So you get that as a present. Everyone else, hold on a second one day. Hold on a second. Well, if anyone wants to, access Alex is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry sorry, sorry. I'm the only time I will say sorry.

01:14:24:01 – 01:14:44:16
I didn't say sorry for any for that. Yeah. She doesn't, he doesn't. But, Alex is, probably since Alex's, life coaching then. Oh. Is that the wrong word, isn't it? But you're. Yeah, that's the coach. The link is in the description below. Send the link to, to Ricky. Thank you very much. Yeah. Everything will be linked to that social.

01:14:44:22 – 01:15:09:21
Everything will be linked in our, Spotify Apple podcast description. We will be Alex. Everything. If Alex is willing, we should get him on again to talk about when he walked 140 miles to in crossed rural England and buried a cooker in a in a in a wood land area. It could be got very weird. It's such a good story.

01:15:10:02 – 01:15:29:19
It's such a good story. 140 miles is mental to what it was about. That was. Yeah. Yeah. If you if you're willing that was that would be a great that's a great podcast there I'm guy. No. Yeah I appreciate you having me on to be a good man. There's. Yeah I know and as you said that and when you were talking the art and the art and how you feel about.

01:15:29:19 – 01:15:51:09
Yeah I would love to do a another part what you want for loads pods. Now if you guys want your fucking coming on again. Right. So that's that everything. Yeah. Anything to and anyway in our Linktree on any of our social media login on, you'll see our Spotify playlist there so you can find his music.

01:15:51:10 – 01:16:00:13
No clicks on that shit. Rick, do you want a beer? I'll fucking. I'll show you the stats that they do. All right? And try me. Yeah, I will. Right. See you later. Buh bye.

00:00:00:00 – 00:00:16:13
Okay. So some of this we've moved into this new house right here and kind of it's been stressful and all that stuff. But one of the stresses, what I thought was great opportunity for us would be all of the clutter from the old house, right? I would order a skip and we would put it in that skip and that problem would go away forever.

00:00:16:13 – 00:00:37:22
In fact, we never have to think about it. We feel the spot. Yeah. Get it? We built the skip up. And then I look in the garage now and it's still full of stuff. Well, nothing has been checked. There is a tent, a Jacob's cracker tub of a tin, like a big square tin full of random nails and brackets.

00:00:37:24 – 00:01:00:05
But why would we have if I need a thousand brackets for a specific job? I will buy ten nails, two brackets. Use them then. They're nowhere. They're just in there where they're supposed to be on the inside the door, not just in the tin forever. Like, hey, this is a problem. This is a problem, Ricky. That's eventually someone else has to sort out.

00:01:00:07 – 00:01:28:03
And I just. I'm sick to death of it. When you buy these, you need screws, right? You get ten in the pack. You only need four. What do you do with the rest? Six in the bin, in the trailer, in the bin. Then the problem solved. Gone. Right. I've got, like, maybe ten empty coffee jars, all with different size screws, nails, nuts.

00:01:28:05 – 00:01:52:16
Well, the thing is as well. I don't know, like, I'm I'm kind of coming around to your way of thinking because I've taken those old screws and nuts and bolts and stuff. Yeah. From items that have gone kaput, that, dead. And I'm just thinking I'll take these screws just in case. I see they're all rusty, moldy, fucking horrible.

00:01:52:18 – 00:02:11:15
Just chuck my. Yeah, I could, but just in case. I've got, like, bits of offcuts of wood and, laminate flooring up in my loft, if you know, I know that. Just in case it might come in. Know. I'll tell you what. I'll give you something on the laminate flooring. I'll give you that. Right. Because, yeah, it's specific to what you've got.

00:02:11:18 – 00:02:29:24
You might not find that it might get discontinued. Whatever. I'm fine with that. Screws, nails. You can buy. Bench you exists. You can get them as and when you want them. Right. Bits of wood you could have put. You can go to, to, to Which one of a wood Smith. How are they? People that sell wood?

00:02:30:00 – 00:02:49:24
Carpenters and joiners. Yeah. Shops and buy now. Cut it for you. Exactly the right size. Not just an offshoot. I don't know. You know, my dad did. Or so, my dad built decking. You should see. I'm going to send you a picture of what you did. Like he said. Fucking insane lumber. That is so good about decking and a pond.

00:02:50:01 – 00:03:11:06
And it looks like professionals done it. And he's just got bits of wood that he's kept from the offshoots of that. And I'm like, what are they for you guys? Well, I don't know. And I have a project. I suppose this is what this is. I mean this is what room. And they really they, they, they have lots of DIY stuff and they keep random bits, like, we've just got a new washing machine.

00:03:11:12 – 00:03:27:07
And when it came, you know, that, little gray pipe like it. It's an outlet pipe. And every washing machine comes with them or. No. Sorry. It's an inlet pipe for the cold rule. Every washing machine comes with them. I've already got one, so I didn't need to use that new one. And I put it in the loft.

00:03:27:07 – 00:03:45:23
Where? Where I keep a lot of my other things. I've got five of them. What am I ever going to need? Five of those fucking things. But I keep it there just in case. And it might not be for a new washing machine, but it might be for another project. Rusting. Do you know what? If I had a pipe, a stiff bit of pipe?

00:03:45:24 – 00:04:05:16
Oh, not that's there for a third party, but, I could use it. And. Yeah, the amount of stuff in my life, like, at the moment. Patrons, you will notice that I'm recording in a different area of my household. I'm in the kitchen. It just it doesn't. And it just looks like you point you in a different direction.

00:04:05:16 – 00:04:27:22
There's all. It looks out. Okay. That's good, that's good. No one's going to be upset by this. No. That's fine. Because my daughter has taken my office. They've got their own bedrooms now, but eventually I'm going to go into the loft. And when I go into my loft, I have. This is the only time in my life where I haven't done any forward planning.

00:04:27:24 – 00:04:52:20
And I undo the loft hatch when something needs to go in there, and I close my eyes and just hurl it into the darkness, and the darkness deal with it. And it comes to a point now that I'm eventually going to be moving into the loft space to record the pods and have my own little space up there, but the amount of fucking shit up there, I honestly, it is insane what I've done.

00:04:52:20 – 00:05:17:14
I could get two skip worth of shit from out of there. I, I, I, I can't stand people I like, I can I'm like, you know what? I only know what I own. I'll tell you what I own, all right? I own the clothes on my back and the clothes. I dare you to say that. Right? I own my recording equipment.

00:05:17:16 – 00:05:41:11
Yeah, and I own the bricks and mortar of my house. I don't own a single object. I don't own it would if I was to move. And I was on my own. On my own. You'd take me off our probably half hour to move from one house to another. You know, when you see, like when a bloke moves on the on his own into a flat, but a year later it's just a mattress, a chair, a PlayStation and a TV.

00:05:41:13 – 00:06:09:13
Yeah, with a beer fridge next to the. That's me. That's to me. Yeah. I don't need anything. I don't place value in items. I've got some artwork. I guess I've got that as well. Right. But my Mrs. is so the opposite. Yeah, I've just got stuff and she's getting. There's more stuff. Come in. It's collecting stuff now. What is it like when I, when I, when I help my old man move into his house.

00:06:09:13 – 00:06:24:12
Well, he, he moved into his house and he is. Well, he's got lots of stuff. Storage under the stairs in the second bedroom. I needed to move it into the loft, and I said I'd go around and help him do that. A 73. It needs. It needs a strong man to get up, up and down the ladder.

00:06:24:12 – 00:06:50:14
So I help him out. And when I went round there and I, you know, there was about 15 really heavy boxes and I was like, what the fuck's in these boxes? Dad, what is it? And they were, limited edition plates with, like, Chinese artwork and they, you know, like three of 15 from some, that it's gonna literally be worthless.

00:06:50:14 – 00:07:12:16
And there's like these, you know, they've been in coins. I've told you. Yeah. The play and and they, they, they used minted coins. And those plates were found in the supplement of Sunday magazine. Sunday newspaper. Yeah. I don't know if our American brethren will will know about this, but in England. I know you guys have newspapers, but I don't know if you have.

00:07:12:18 – 00:07:32:08
There's a tradition in England, right, of when you. It's not tradition. It's just the way the news works. You have your weekday papers, in the Sally paper. And then the Sunday paper was different. It was bulkier. It was more of a an event. Right. And then you had a supplement inside it, the Sunday supplement, which is you might have seen the TV show, The football, The Vertical, somebody supplement.

00:07:32:10 – 00:07:49:12
It was the supplement. It was a magazine, the glossy magazine that went inside a large, bulky newspaper, which is a double sided double of the size of your weekday newspapers. And I used to love I would absolutely love sitting down my men's house, cup of tea, slice of cake, and I'd sit on the floor and I'd read through the sport.

00:07:49:14 – 00:08:04:11
She would have news of the world, which essentially sun on a Sunday. But oh yeah, she would read news of the world, a tiny mouse, she's a little gammon. And, and so you'd sit down and then, and then you'd flick to the back of the pages, and there would be these limited edition plates by these. These are investments for the beach.

00:08:04:11 – 00:08:42:13
And even at ten, I was like, I'm not sure these are. Yeah. So but but yeah, but that's that it's well what you said about the Sunday, papers and that being like being fucking bulking or the supplements I wrote a paper around from when I was like 13 up until, I don't know, 16 or whatever. And every morning at about half five, six and 6:00, the delivery van would drive past my house and I'd hear a thud of the newspapers landed on my doorstep, and I would pick it up, arrange it into how I'm going to, ride around to the different streets in what order and deliver them.

00:08:42:15 – 00:09:03:04
And on the Sunday you would hear two thuds. And it's just fuck me. The telegraph of the times, the amount that it fucking is. Like I'd a bloody phonebook. Yeah. In each newspaper I was like, did you write of it? Yeah. Trying to write of it. Oh, my fucking back. I did it in two trips as well. So this is your paper?

00:09:03:06 – 00:09:21:08
Yeah. Yeah. We you get double, you pay double on Sunday doing your paper. And I want said look me that me either he didn't know not double was you just on the Sunday night throughout the week, mate. Yeah. So I, I just had one day. Yeah. Yeah, it was a Thursday because it was the late.

00:09:21:09 – 00:09:49:04
It was the local newspaper, the local newspaper, the Telegraph, or the Crouch End flier or whatever it was called. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Harrogate Gazette, whatever it was. Right. But what you wanted is supplements because the supplements would boost your pay packet because, Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was one I remember it, I had a like a, like a, a bonus bonanza because they wanted to put along with every paper.

00:09:49:04 – 00:10:08:23
You had to put samples of PPG pyramid tips, tea bags, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had to I had a box carrying a box along and in newspapers along, and they paid me like a got a free credit for that week, made you get coins in a little paper bag. So you get paid.

00:10:09:00 – 00:10:30:17
Yeah, yeah. Little envelope. My name on it. 14 pound, 51 pound. 50 for the week. Me. That was fucking back in the day when I was nine. All right. 14. 14.50 pound. That's enough to go to the off license get. Yeah. 4040 vodka or 50. What was it, 40 for a book of. Yeah. Oh, no, I didn't get all that.

00:10:30:17 – 00:10:46:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me I wasn't on it then the I my, my nan used to take all my notebook. Oh by that I'd teach myself all of the file by the.

00:10:46:20 – 00:11:06:00
My nan used to take all my money. Well, let's keep it for me and dish out and small things. So what's going on? I had to steal my own wages from my nan. Wow. So that's kind of a good thing. And a bad thing I didn't. Yeah. No, I mean, I guess I earned is my fucking money.

00:11:06:00 – 00:11:32:21
What are you doing? Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, she takes, you know, she wanted me to just spend it sensibly, so, I used to nick it. Anyway, tell me about you. Said your dad's place is cloud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, in the loft. So I was, I was helping him out, and I know that, and then, I stumbled across something I of that was quite familiar to me, and it struck me my childhood.

00:11:32:23 – 00:11:53:02
Now, when I was younger, my old man, he had a he had a house, but he used to rent out his other room, so he had lodgers. So when I go around his house on the weekend, I would always be kind of stay in his bedroom. Right. And he would go out and rent videos for us, down, up blockbusters, always.

00:11:53:02 – 00:12:12:23
Jean-Claude Van Damme films, what he wanted to watch. And then he would run his errands. I was just in his room watching Jean-Claude Van Damme films, eating McDonald's, whatever. And that one day, I don't know, something just dropped and it went to the floor and I saw this, briefcase. And I was like, oh, fuck. I'll have a little look at that like that.

00:12:12:23 – 00:12:39:18
And I know I'll have a will have a look, and, pinged it open and I found, you know, shit letters of mortgages and all that, like, just important stuff, you know, paperwork, admin. I found page three, and it was all. Fuck. What was your name for? Fox. Samantha. Fox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll tell you.

00:12:39:22 – 00:13:00:24
No, no, no, no. But she was like the one that she says she she was. Yeah. That, Yeah. Yeah. So Samantha Fox, she was there staring back at me. I said, oh, hello. And then, a pristine copy of the Kamasutra, and, I think. No, it wasn't. When I was flicking through it, I was like, fucking know.

00:13:00:24 – 00:13:27:06
This is a bit racy. Yeah, but when I was making my dad's boxes, you know, I guess what I bumped into. Hey, what's that fucking Kamasutra again? I said, oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, no, I think it was the same one. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was just. Yeah, it's just kept it. Still doing the moves. A friend of mine, a friend of mine had a friend of ours actually has, had a Fleshlight for a bit.

00:13:27:08 – 00:13:49:15
Oh, he's recently in disgust of himself. Chucked it away, but not yet gone. Well, I was trying to convince him for a long time not to keep it as a souvenir special. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, he started using again, so he just disgusting. So you wanted it out when you're away from.

00:13:49:17 – 00:14:09:02
Temptation, but, like, how would like it would be, how would you dispose of it? Like, you can't do it from your hand. Kanye wraps up bean bag, bean bag, bean bag. Stereotypes. So I would say like it was a body. A small body. Right? And then you've got a but you can't put it in your own bin because it's still traceable back to you.

00:14:09:03 – 00:14:27:18
Yeah. So who's chasing, who's going to go? Who's gone finding I rather trace back who actually put this in the bin. Yeah I know, but you know what cats are like cats. Yeah. Cats. Scratch friend. A squirrel might have got out of it, and everyone's fucking got a like that geezer. Number 22. Oh, yeah, I knew him. I said I see, I see his face.

00:14:27:18 – 00:14:51:04
He always looked a bit weird today. He, I don't know why, but he's the gentleman we're talking about. He sent me a picture of it before it when the bin said, say goodbye, like I been using it. And I was like, don't do this. That's, that's a fake is they pick.

00:14:51:06 – 00:15:17:23
Them night hazy like Band of Brothers playing Jones high as quite midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:15:18:00 – 00:15:42:01
Hello and welcome. Tonight's anonymous is episode 134. I'm Ricky Heath from two Best Mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature. Something only you know and everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going? Fav. Yeah, it's gonna write me. Yeah. Everything's going well. It's good. I'm glad to hear it.

00:15:42:03 – 00:16:13:09
I am actually wanted to do a quick shout out bit of, housekeeping to the, the lads in the discord. This week has been popping off. Now I have two people who have, come clean and they've got Prince Albert's twice. Yeah. That's right. Almost as though I've seen people. I wanted pictures, but I only got pictures of the, the, the apparatus of what is being going in said penis.

00:16:13:15 – 00:16:33:00
You know, like when you see a mechanic and they've got a tray. Yeah. When they're, you know, taking their part of the, you know, the head gasket or whatever, there's nuts and bolts everywhere. I've got a photo of that and some of the, the pieces that go in there, it's it's big style. I don't think I, I, I'm not interested about this.

00:16:33:00 – 00:16:54:16
Right. Show me, show me in or don't show me anything. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I agree, we I would most definitely want to see how I've got Prince Albert, but you're not going to see it. What's the point? What are you doing here? Yeah. Cocktails. Don't mention it. Literally. Yeah. Yeah, I made it mine. Was I because I'm doing something this way of speaking is really interesting.

00:16:54:16 – 00:17:12:23
Special person. What do you say? I can't tell you. I don't know what. Tell me. You speak, I bring out, but it also it pulled the other people out of the, teased them out of the woods where? Nipple piercing. One of the lads, one of the other lads had a belly piercing, which I was. Okay. Yeah, I can ask, are they okay?

00:17:12:24 – 00:17:34:04
They in the scene? They they okay. Is he a gay gentleman? I don't think so. No, not at all. When they put in underbelly piers. And you would assume, I mean in the UK and I know it's different everywhere in the UK. Yeah. You would assume someone with a nipple and a belly pierce belly button was homosexual. That's all the way.

00:17:34:04 – 00:17:57:14
But I don't know. I know those men. Men with, nose piercings. I've always been a bit like, I get it, but I've always thought it's a bit, you know. Yeah, it was more in the scene in them. Yeah, yeah. So thanks to those and, I don't know if this the, I don't think it was the original doctor who used to email us, but there is a new, doctor.

00:17:57:14 – 00:18:21:04
Yeah. In the discord as well. He's a training, in neuroscience. So I've been asking him lots of brain questions about why can I not go to sleep at night? And he told me a big complex, so I'm not going to read it out, but, Nice one. Discords. Let's keep them. Keep the chat going. Is he is it nothing to do with you staying up?

00:18:21:06 – 00:18:45:15
And, Hey, genomes were mentioned, and it's like I might have one. That is because obviously everyone's born differently, and it's something to do with. Maybe I'm just a bit of a night owl. No, that's how I'm prior to bed. Close your eyes with me. It's willpower goes back close. Right. So what do you say if you lay there for an hour?

00:18:45:18 – 00:18:57:04
Yeah. You close your eyes. You. After an hour from 9 to 10, you wouldn't be asleep. Oh, no, I absolutely would be asleep. So it's a choice then?

00:18:57:06 – 00:19:16:05
Yeah, you might have those genomes, but if you close your eyes, if you go to bed and close your eyes, you would fall asleep eventually. Yeah, I, I think it's a bit more complex than that. I don't care what his doctor says. I go to bed. Close your eyes. You fall asleep. Well, we're going to move on.

00:19:16:05 – 00:19:38:00
So you know what we're talking about today. Oh 911 I was thinking about this. Yeah, it's weird that people sort of. It's now a joke, isn't it? For some reason. Yeah, I but I do want to kind of caveat this whole pod. With that, you may hear an excitable voice or tone from me, and it's not excitable as in, I'm having a laugh.

00:19:38:00 – 00:20:10:09
It's I, I'm still to this day, still it still blows my mind of what happens, how it happens at everything around it. Now, before I kick off an email in and it's just heard your recent pod and glad that you're doing my suggestion of 911. So that was someone's suggestion, the 911 topic. So we're doing it for a although I was just nine years old, I have a photographic memory of it happening.

00:20:10:11 – 00:20:30:15
I remember being at home, I'm not sure whether I was off school ill or is the weekend I can't remember now. I just want to say I've got your email there, and you said you've got a photographic memory, and then you're saying you can't remember whether you wrote it or it's a weekend. What is it? You're I'm already picking holes in your story here.

00:20:30:15 – 00:20:56:18
So. Yeah. So, you know, be careful what you email in. Just remember, say, my mum watching the knees of her hands across her mouth saying, oh my God, oh my God. Another one hit watching a plane go into the second tower, not really understanding what was going on, but knowing it was something bad. Then watching the telly I saw my mum say even louder, oh my God, it's collapsing.

00:20:56:20 – 00:21:21:20
Those poor people. Oh my God! Seeing for myself the tower collapsed before my eyes. It was surreal. Something hopefully I no doubt ever to see again in my lifetime at such a young age and over 20 years later, never forgetting it, even though I never really understood what was happening. And then they've put at the end shout out to Jenny and Jordan.

00:21:21:24 – 00:21:47:03
I did say this is Anonymous podcast, but they were insistent. So Jenny, thanks for emailing in. Thanks for suggesting the topic. Yeah, there you go. Read it out. Who's calling? Who's Jenny and who are they? I don't know, listeners. Listeners. And by the way, this is that was Jenny's account. I want to hear Jordan's. You stole Jordan's fun there.

00:21:47:05 – 00:22:09:10
I think that was the time where everything went, started going tits up. Really? Okay. Like I think you lived in. I've said this before, but relative security and uncomfortableness and and you felt kind of safe and comfortable. And I guess that's the point of a terrorist attack, isn't? It's to make you feel uncomfortable, but you feel scared.

00:22:09:12 – 00:22:28:23
Own home. Yeah, but it'll just like, from that point forward, it all just slowly went tits up. And we're now in a world where everyone just seems to hate each other. And I feel like that felt like the start of it. So. So this is September 11th, 2001. And for people that you know, everyone knows what this is.

00:22:28:23 – 00:22:59:12
But on September 11th, 2001, 19 Al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial airplanes crashing into New York's World Trade Center, wanting to the Pentagon and one into a Pennsylvania field, killing nearly 3000 people in a coordinated attack that reshaped global security. Always won me upright. I mean, I don't mean to go on the attack, like saying about 911, which confuses me.

00:22:59:12 – 00:23:17:12
Not like I always think it happened in 2011, say 911. Yeah. What happened to timber in 2008? Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? They just. They say the dates are weird, don't they? Where were you when it happened? I was in you remember? Yeah, it was in my my girlfriend's at the time. It had that front room where you were covering and have a cup of tea with him.

00:23:17:12 – 00:23:46:19
And I think neighbors was on, and, it just neighbors. I think there was a BBC one program. I think they just switched to the news immediately, like no warning. It just switched without a full. Yeah. And then obviously it was a, the, the infamous image of both of the towers standing there. And then the, the plane hit the first one, and then you're watching it live as the plane hits the second one.

00:23:46:21 – 00:24:16:06
And, it was just surreal. It was the most surreal. Remains the most surreal thing I've ever seen in my life. It's. Yeah. It's insane. That that happened, and we watched it happen. The world watched it happen live. It it was a bizarre, bizarre time. Very strange, I think. Yeah. It's one of those times where I didn't think I'll ever see that again in my lifetime or.

00:24:16:08 – 00:24:46:19
Or have anything as impactful affect me the way that it did at that time. I was at my very first job when I was working in a warehouse, and I say in my first job at the vast majority of the warehouse. Then on top of it, there was little like back room offices where the people with shirt and ties and, you know, doing all the business stuff, and us minions were down in the warehouse out.

00:24:46:21 – 00:25:10:00
I was more than likely, probably sat on my forklift or something like that. And I got a call to go to the boardroom, and I was like, fuck, what was going on? And everyone was like, Rick, come to the boardroom. So I went into the boardroom and they had a TV there, and it's very rare that office boards the shutters mixed with the, the warehouse.

00:25:10:02 – 00:25:40:03
Yeah. Scum. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much. And we were all there together just watching the TV and watching that and, well, at the World Trade Center, that one plane had hit one of the Twin Towers and everything that was going off. And then we were all there together when the second plane hit, and I obviously it was fucking shocking what was happening, but it was the.

00:25:40:05 – 00:26:05:00
The confusion of I, I didn't know what was happening. It was an accident. Yeah. They didn't know where they were flying. The. Yeah. The, the signal coming down or the radar whatever. And then the second one hits and you're like, man, that car that's that can't be a coincidence. Two of them in the fucking Twin Towers. And then you like what is happening?

00:26:05:02 – 00:26:34:09
I'd never heard, like, genuinely. And this is going to sound a bit. I'd never heard of the word terrorist terrorism. I think maybe it would have been like the I had there was, there was one time. Right. Timothy McVeigh and I believe he tried to bomb a, a World Trade Center. Timothy didn't Timothy McVeigh. Wasn't he the Unabomber?

00:26:34:11 – 00:26:49:18
So I might be I might be wrong. Desmia. So. But he he killed a lot of people in America. We have a lot of, we have a book. I seem to remember he, like, rigged up a van that was under a, you know, under it was in a parking lot under the building. And then the bomb blew up.

00:26:49:23 – 00:27:17:09
Right. And he still, And he he was labeled as a terrorist, the best as a first time domestic terrorist. That's it. Thank you. That's the first. It's just so quickly. He's. He masterminded the, perpetrated the Oklahoma City bombing. That's it. And the bombing itself killed 167 or 168 people and injured 684 and destroyed one third of the Alfred p moral federal Building.

00:27:17:11 – 00:27:40:17
Fuck the I don't yeah, it's a big one. So that so that was the first time I'd ever heard of someone doing it, but that was like domestic. That wasn't you had yet to do you don't remember the IRA bombings in London? I do, but it I can't not really. I know the name IRA. I know that there was bomb, but it's all like our lot in it, you know.

00:27:40:17 – 00:28:06:04
They know it's not like we're under attack abroad. Yeah. It's not a terrorist from abroad. And I didn't really think that stuff existed. Not that it didn't exist, but I'd never seen anything or heard of anything where it happened in the Western world, where it affected me. And although the Twin Towers didn't affect me directly, you know, everyone in the world could see what was happening.

00:28:06:06 – 00:28:32:16
Yeah. So it was fucking mental. Like what? Watching that. What were your feelings towards it? Were you kind of like, it's shocking. It's America don't really care. Well, I know I don't have any feelings other than just a complete shock and unlike fascination, I guess not. Not in a weird way to. I was enjoying it, but I couldn't stop watching.

00:28:32:16 – 00:28:51:04
I sat down and watched the coverage of that from the minute it started, and it felt like I was sitting there for 24 hours watching it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't know what's happening. And then you start getting fed. Information and stories develop and then you watch. You've watched what, like inconceivable. If you put that in a Hollywood movie, you wouldn't believe it could ever happen.

00:28:51:04 – 00:29:24:06
And it was happening. So, you know, that's what it was really. It was just complete disbelief. And I guess fear and then but and if you think about what happens when you're scared, what do you need? More and more information. And so that's why the news will lead with such sort of aggressively depressing stuff on the sun and, and the particular broadsheet newspapers and that have built an industry out of sharing the most bloodiest and violent stories.

00:29:24:08 – 00:29:49:12
Because as a human being, you need when you're scared as much information as possible. And so that's why everybody on earth was glued to the TV. That so that's that's what I felt just kind of like weird now body moment really. It was kind of like, I mean, I, I'm probably way off on this, but it was the first kind of realization for me, like 24 hour rolling night.

00:29:49:14 – 00:30:09:13
I don't think I'd ever seen that, really. It wasn't. I think it was on Sky, but it was kind of just down the channel list. So you don't. Yeah. It wasn't normal that you put on a rolling 24 hour. No, no. Exactly. And this, like you were saying, it was on like for fuckin four days straight. Yeah.

00:30:09:15 – 00:30:37:11
And the more things were coming out about it, the more you were like, I don't know, I just found it so fascinating because that whole part of it and terrorism was just alien to me. And I hadn't really I don't know, I just didn't didn't know. You felt like you could be got at. Yeah. For the first time, you always just assumed we were safe on our island and America was safe because it was.

00:30:37:13 – 00:31:04:00
No one would dare attack it. And and by proxy, us. Because when you feel certainly at that time there was a deep connection between the UK and the US, and I think that's the least to some degree. But it's, it's strained by the sort of Trump appointment, I think twice the democratically elected Trump twice. Yeah. It's strange to some degree, but it's I think it's still there.

00:31:04:02 – 00:31:18:23
And so when it happens to the States, you're like, what if it can happen to them? It can happen to us. And we know shortly after that we got our own, not I mean, a few years later, wasn't it. When was that 2005 of that we had our own. Yeah. We had the London bombings. Do we? Yeah.

00:31:18:23 – 00:31:34:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did a podcast, actually, with a guy called Mustafa. He was on one of the trains. He was a friend of mine, and he was on one of the trains that was bombed in London. So you can find that, on, no holds barred podcast. Sort of. It's on the internet somewhere.

00:31:34:17 – 00:32:01:13
Anyway, so, you know, we could we got out and and and then, you know what? What happened is it kind of increased in, in fear and think, well, what can happen? I was on the amount of times I got on a bus and thought about blowing up after the London bombings. May every two years after. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't sit on the, bomb because I assume that the problem would be on the bottom.

00:32:01:13 – 00:32:28:14
I'd be better at the back of the bus on the top. And that's what the that's what terrorist acts designed to do is to disrupt your everyday life and make you think and and feel, uneasy because they can't go to war with America. They can't fight them. They'll be destroyed. So what can they do is they impact the hearts and minds of people at home so that, you know, I would have gone to the bottom of the bus, like.

00:32:28:17 – 00:32:44:22
And my logical if I, if I'm at the top and then there's a fire on the stairs, how am I getting out? I think it just because I remember the I, maybe I was in the bomb. Maybe it was. I sat on the bottom. I can't remember exactly what I did, but I do remember being conscious of where I was sitting on the bus every time.

00:32:45:00 – 00:33:08:13
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and trains as well. Planes, all of that stuff. Fucking mad. Well, yeah. You had Richard Reid. You remember him? He went on, he got on a plane with, liquid explosives in his shoes. No. Oh, watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you know his name? I think he was. I remember his face as well, and it sort of burned into my memory.

00:33:08:15 – 00:33:14:16
He was just like, Richard Reid.

00:33:14:18 – 00:33:41:07
That's fucking weird how you just remember. Well, he just had a very, He had a particular. The shoe bomber. Yeah. So Richard Colvin Reid, also known as the shoe Bomber, is a British terrorist who perpetrated, the failed shoe bombings against transatlantic flights in 2001. Born a career criminal father to a career criminal father, Reid ended up in prison after killing years of committed petty crime.

00:33:41:10 – 00:34:07:00
I think he was less, sort of a planned terrorist and more and more. Yeah, yeah, an opportunistic one. But he's the reason why you couldn't. You can't take liquid liquid on planes. Fucking nice on my 100 mil up to the up 200 mil, two liters. Now. Two liters. Is it. And he Heathrow fucking, cabman. The second planes here.

00:34:07:02 – 00:34:41:08
And you can't have you know that this is. And the reports are coming through that it is terrorism or whatever. Yeah. And then you see the fire blazing, you see the panic down below, you see people just viewing it from afar. The news is roll in and then rubble starts falling, and then it starts to collapse. The first tower.

00:34:41:10 – 00:35:05:11
What, like what were your thoughts on like when you see when it's kind of like when that tower goes down, that first one. I mean, it's the same sort of thing really. I think, it's just you felt it was coming down. You felt like how how does a building withstand a plane hitting it? Yeah. And so when it fell, it was almost like.

00:35:05:13 – 00:35:28:07
Yeah, I mean, obviously that was going to happen. Hopefully everyone got out. Really? Yeah. It was. Yeah, it was mad. It was mad having it be there and that those two towers so synonymous with everything, with films, with anything filmed in New York, you know, your friends. Friends, for example, would have a cutaway of New York and the Twin Towers there.

00:35:28:07 – 00:35:45:12
Even to this day, they still I still watch friends of an evening. Yeah, I know how it on in the background. Yeah, I still have it on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me and my girlfriend. But every time you mentioned I look to Twin Towers like that, it was, Yeah. So to just have something there and then it's gone was was bizarre.

00:35:45:12 – 00:36:08:14
But yeah, it was, it was very odd. And, you know, weirdly, it was well, not weirdly, but it was an excuse to whip up, you know, public perception about what needs to happen now in the Middle East. And, obviously they were going to go and captured al-Qaida and bin laden did not. Are we going to talk about the conspiracy theory?

00:36:08:15 – 00:36:34:24
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get to this. I just want to tell you, quickly speak about, the part where it was being reported people are trapped in the top tower and you could see them. Yeah. And they're waving from out the windows, arriving frantically with clothes, items and stuff like that. And it's like, fuck, man.

00:36:34:24 – 00:37:02:06
What? Like what happened? I remember seeing that and feeling trapped myself. A feeling really emotional, actually. Yeah. Just like, how the fuck are they going to get out? Like, what's going to happen? And then the reports of people just jump in and you're seeing them. Freefall. Yeah, it's pretty grim. And it's like how I been up there, mate.

00:37:02:07 – 00:37:27:13
Like there is no there is no point in made where my only thought is, I'm just going to have to jump and I'm going to have to end it now. So the train of thought of what was fucking going on throughout that part is it's just mind blowing. Yeah, it really is fucking I can't I still can't even, process it now.

00:37:27:13 – 00:37:50:14
I'm talking about it. It was just so how it must have been so bad up there that they would rather die and fall true to their death and experience what they were experiencing thus far. And you think about the people in there had to try and get down, you know, had to and was blocked and having to come to the realization that their life is over.

00:37:50:16 – 00:38:14:18
It's just how is it going to end? And at what point do they decide to end it? That is something that no one should ever be confronted with. Like, what's the ideal world? The most human way to to go about things is you live. You exist, God willing, to an older age and to a point where you're like, okay, I'm ready to go now, and then illness takes you or whatever it is.

00:38:14:20 – 00:38:34:19
And luckily, we live in a world now where if you're in a hospital or hospice, you're made to feel comfortable, right? So you're not in any agony, in pain. You can give pain meds, you're lucid, but you can also be in and out of consciousness. And actually the process of passing these can be, kind, right? It can be.

00:38:34:21 – 00:38:59:13
It doesn't have to be painful or full of fear. It can be relaxed and gradual. That's the ideal. So to be up there in your 20s, not ready and being confronted and having to make the decision to leap, I don't think anybody could fully understand what was going on up there and, intellectualize it in a way that anyone else could actually in any way appreciate or understand.

00:38:59:15 – 00:39:30:03
It's just it was crazy that the fear of the actual feeling of how fearful you would have been, and coming to the conclusion that that is, that that is the best way out of this, from jumping from a building where you're that high up is fucking just. May I still, man, it's it's insane. And then after you've got circus, you've got like, the jumpers, the people that are stuck at the Twin Towers have now collapsed.

00:39:30:03 – 00:39:51:00
And you've seen so many, like, now, from looking back, there's a lot of footage of when the when the, building collapses, the dust flying everywhere, people running to shops and building other buildings and all that look to get away from it. I still like I'm still.

00:39:51:02 – 00:40:18:02
Still kind of. I just can't believe it. And it's still like footage that comes out now, people and, seeing the buildings collapse. But then the stuff that really gets me is hearing the voice messages from people in the stuck on the planes, and they are saying bye to their loved ones. They're saying that, you know, the plane has been hijacked and they don't know what's going to happen, how they're going to get out of it.

00:40:18:02 – 00:40:46:19
Tell this person I love them and all that last. I mean, that's our worst fear as well, being in a plane and and going down. Yeah. It's fucking oh man. It's just trying to put yourself in that like you just. Yeah. My, my my mind just still can't comprehend it. You know, even all these things have happened and obviously it was unbelievable even to this, you know, only 25 years ago now.

00:40:46:21 – 00:41:08:08
But it's weird how it's become a bit of a joke. It's like people are comfortable making fun of this stuff. Yeah, we've all done it. There's, I mean, one of my I mean, I say one of my favorite meme is. And like, is the George Bush, you know, a plane has hit the second tower. The second plane is at the tower.

00:41:08:10 – 00:41:38:07
You know, I've actually got the, the actual quote. So Chief of Staff Andrew Card whispered to President George W Bush, A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack as that is fucking. Can you imagine hearing that, America? Can you imagine turning on your TV? And it cuts to the news and it says England is under attack.

00:41:38:07 – 00:42:01:01
Yeah, this is sort of it. When the first instance I was like, how do they not know? How did I not figure out there's a plane off grid or off or going against the air traffic control? Yeah. And they were able to get close enough to the center of New York without being shut down. But I know there has been explanations for this, and there'll be reasons why.

00:42:01:03 – 00:42:27:10
I'm just surprised that it got to that point. Like they they wouldn't have been aware. Maybe safeguarding has happened since then. They've learned a lot of lessons, but I'm surprised it like you always feel like they should have known. Like we know that terrorist plots are being foiled every day now. Yeah, but then shitloads of, huge amounts of money got invested in terrorism after it, didn't they?

00:42:27:11 – 00:42:52:02
Yeah, yeah. I mean, going back and I've seen that like, a lot of, so one of the, one of the, one of the dudes that was flying one of the planes and they, they trace him back to having a flight lessons in America, learning how to fly a plane, finding passports that were in the, you know, the wreckage and stuff like that, and all these other things as well.

00:42:52:02 – 00:43:16:10
It's just, it is kind of, I think maybe because I think maybe one of them was a plane that was hijacked from Boston or something. And because it's close to New York, once it's flying to New York and it's on that trajectory, you thinking it's just flying to New York anyway, and then it goes off line or goes, kind of out of the, the where it's supposed to be positioned.

00:43:16:10 – 00:43:47:03
And then they're like, fuck, there's a problem here, but it's too late. It's already in New York. He's already heading for that building. Before we talk about the, conspiracy theories, have you heard the stories of Michael Jackson, Seth MacFarlane, and Mark Wahlberg? All of them. Michael Jackson on the morning of the terrorist attack, he had a meeting in one of the higher floors of the Twin Towers.

00:43:47:05 – 00:44:16:17
The night before. He was on the phone late to his mum, and he woke up and he slept in, and he never made that meeting, obviously. And then the Twin Towers here. Seth MacFarlane was on one of the planes booked on, to from I think is from Boston to New York. He was out the night before, insanely hung over, missed his flight by ten minutes.

00:44:16:19 – 00:44:40:08
That is mad that he's mad. Mark 102. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark Wahlberg was supposed to be flying. So the one that. I think it's the one that hit the Pentagon. I'm not 100% sure that, he was supposed to be on that flight, I think is going to airline at this last minute. Changed his mind and went to a film festival in Toronto or something like that of his mates, and missed out on that plane.

00:44:40:14 – 00:44:56:07
Mark Wahlberg said if he was on that plane, it wouldn't. It wouldn't have gone down. It wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have been a terrorist attack, he said. I would have, you know, if my family were on that plane, they wouldn't have gone down there. They did, they did, they did. It did go down, but not the Pennsylvania one.

00:44:56:07 – 00:45:17:23
But they didn't. They. Yeah they did. Yeah. That overpowered him. Yeah. I've never heard it's called flight 73 or something. That film I've never I could never bring myself to watch it. Oh man. Yeah. Saying that just here in the because didn't they play that the role play. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Oh that's what I think. You know what you reference about the plane playing the messages on the fly.

00:45:17:24 – 00:45:39:00
Anything. A lot of it comes from that. But I knew they were going down. So they, made that. But it's fucking math in it. Yeah. Like, is it number one. It's about like him Steve Buscemi like he helped out during 911 because he used to be a fireman, I believe. And he went back to the fire department.

00:45:39:00 – 00:46:07:12
He used to work out and kind of enlisted himself as a volunteer to help clear rubble and help clear people, you know, that were trapped and all of that stuff. But he apparently never, he never spoke about it, never advertised it. But obviously Steve Buscemi that, picked up on it. But, I mean, there's loads that we could go further into, but, you know, it's it's an our podcast, the conspiracy theories now.

00:46:07:14 – 00:46:43:21
Quite interesting because quite a few people emailed about the conspiracy theories, about, certain people owning the Twin Towers and that it was done on purpose. It's an internal job. If an insurance job. Now, one of the main kind of things where people are scratching their chin, you've raised actually, you've said it in this podcast. It was when the, Twin Towers came down.

00:46:43:21 – 00:47:12:16
Now, apparently, when the Twin Towers came down, they came down straight. And the, the resistance of when the buildings come down because structurally how they're built, there should have been some resistance but it just collapsed. Both towers just collapse straight down and it collapsed in the same. Right. As in if you were to, I don't know, drop a bowling ball off the side of the building.

00:47:12:18 – 00:47:36:12
They both collapsed and they both fell down at the same rate. Yeah. Now structurally and how they're built, that should never happen. What? Why? This is the problem, right. Science. Yeah. Science. Right. But there there's I'm just within seconds of googled it. Right. Okay. Yeah. Go on. So the this is the problem with with with conspiracy theories because no one wants the truth.

00:47:36:17 – 00:47:55:06
They don't want to get to the truth. They just want to be in a situation where they can share all this bullshit with each other and get excited. We are right. We're right. Look what we found that we found. Yeah. If you put as much time into nurturing the relationships with people around you, you'd be a great person instead of fucking digging through all this bullshit.

00:47:55:08 – 00:48:25:09
But, so this is the people, like, there's a controlled demolition. Do you remember that one? And that's. Yeah. If. And if you what? If you rewatch the video, you can see the, the light sparks of each demolition. Right. So exploding. So, so experts, this is what, according to AI, experts from institutions like Northwestern University have analyzed evidence finding no scientific basis for controlled demolition theories explaining phenomena like dust, clouds, compressed air and molten metal.

00:48:25:11 – 00:48:52:09
Molten aluminum from the planes. Investigations by the 9/11 Commission and the National Institute of Standards and Technology concluded Al-Qaeda was responsible and attributed the collapse of the plane impacts and subsequent fires for the falling of the buildings. Right now, that's officially what's said in scientific rebuttals about what's what. These conspiracy theories are. Right? Okay. Conspiracy theories ago.

00:48:52:11 – 00:49:08:15
Well, obviously they're going to say that they did. That's what you were saying. I was thinking, course, I was going to say that, you know, fucking who owns I mean, America. So I mean, of course they're telling you that. I mean, forget the I bit this this stuff would have existed before I. Right? I'm just saying it's out there.

00:49:08:15 – 00:49:23:05
I've used I like to find it. But you the point is what your reaction to what I've just said is. That is what people that don't want to believe it will go. Of course they're going to say that, right? Yeah. I'm in the middle of I couldn't give a shit who's right. Okay, so what are you asking me to do here?

00:49:23:07 – 00:49:35:02
I believe one or the other. I'm going to believe the scientists. Robin Jaffe, who lives in Delaware, who's spent half, half a life digging up on something that really got nothing to do with the.

00:49:35:04 – 00:49:53:24
Yeah. That's true. That is strange. Right? So now leave me alone and let's talk all my life, right? Okay. Right. That's fine. He telling me it's an inside job, right? It is. What drew me to, I mean, I'm not saying, I'm not buying this fucking. It's. I'm just telling. They're saying this place say they knew what was going to happen.

00:49:53:24 – 00:50:12:12
They let it happen to justify the wars in in Iraq, in the Middle East. When have they ever needed justification to go and do something? Why do they need the people on board? Tony Blair said, yeah, they've got weapons of mass destruction we like, right. Yeah. Well this guy and then it turns out they're right. Oh, shit. What are we gonna do with Tony Blair?

00:50:12:13 – 00:50:34:11
Nothing, really. That's what happened in it. So this kid mad that we would. That people were sitting there because of a hug. They we've they've got weapons of mass destruction. We've got intelligence that says weapons of mass destruction. What is that, a weapon of mass destruction? Is it nuclear bomb there? What is it then? I could be a nuclear bomb, I will go, it's a threat against us.

00:50:34:11 – 00:50:56:14
So. Yeah, because you saw what happened in America where they can blow us up, right? We're closer to them. Yeah. All right. 2 million people marched against it. 2 million people went into the center of London to say, do not invade the Middle East. We don't want to hear that. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so why so why they did it anyway, they went was 2 million people can.

00:50:56:14 – 00:51:16:13
Don't do this. It's only really weird. Now we are going to do it. We are going to do it. So why would they need to allow two planes to fly into a building if they'll just do it? Anyway, the evidence is in England. Tony Blair did it and then they found no weapons of mass destruction WMD. Do you remember that WMD, WMD?

00:51:16:19 – 00:51:35:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tricky. They didn't find anything I they didn't. So what happened to Tony Blair when he took us to war on the false pretenses? Nothing. No. Just went about it. Just resigned to become an advisor to someone. Yeah. Yes. Sorry about that one. I thought they did. So they looked like it. They had my back.

00:51:35:12 – 00:51:53:13
We make mistakes. Yeah. We were only human. You'll human. Yeah, I'm sure you. Yeah, I'm sure you done that human time, right? Yeah. So? So so do you really, really think they just let this happen? I, I I've got no idea. What. No, but so one of the emails I sent in was like, I think it's George Bush.

00:51:53:13 – 00:52:14:03
And there was another gentleman. When they die, the truth will come out, the truth will come out. Then what do we do? Going on? I don't know, I think it's a look at that, but there's a lot of chat about, engine jet. Is it jet fuel burning steel beams. Doesn't. Yeah. How do you know? Yeah, I don't know.

00:52:14:05 – 00:52:41:20
I'm presuming just let's just assume. Ricky, for a moment, you all actuating this idea that jet fuel can't melt steam? Steel beams. Right. How do you know? I don't even know what that means. I like the idea. Do you like jet fuel? And it wouldn't get hot enough to melt the steel beam, right? Okay. Not just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'm.

00:52:41:20 – 00:53:07:12
I'm assuming they think it may be true again. I don't care enough to find out, but, yeah, it may be true that, that that's in itself jet fuel, can't melt steel beams. But did anyone actually suggest that the buildings melted? They've just become structurally unstable due to a fucking plane flying into them. It wasn't just a jiff.

00:53:07:18 – 00:53:32:01
Anyway, the point is, is that, you know, people are saying this. The ones are most loud, but yeah, they don't know. So they quote other people who say that they know. And you're like, well, I found this information on the internet. They know how they do. They do. They know how of their information. Other names. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doctor so-and-so and he's at Berkeley University.

00:53:32:02 – 00:53:45:02
I've just read one out. I'm assuming it's right. The point is, if you find out that they're lying about it. Oh, well, what happens then?

00:53:45:04 – 00:54:15:12
All right. They did false flag operation. They use it to to to get public opinion on going to war. Right. Yeah. Yeah, right. You're right. Bastards. Now what? Yeah. What happens to you? What happens? Did you find the next committee conspiracy theory to get onto? Because you use it as a justification for your existence. That's why I think that 5G is melting our brains.

00:54:15:14 – 00:54:33:11
He does, he that does he really? Yeah. And people are looking at jet fuel. Jet jet fuel like the the the what they called chem trails. Chem trials. That's it. Yeah. All right. Yes. They are spraying us with chemicals. Right. To give us some cancer. You can do about it. They could probably in the weather as well.

00:54:33:11 – 00:54:53:04
Yeah. Controlling the weather. They can control over the so-called sword seed storming. It's naturally. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Conspiracy theories. I can actually create rain, which is fucking Mendel. I'm not sure. We don't feel like we should be doing that, but, like, you know. But nature's fine. Like, it will work it out, don't make that shit on me.

00:54:53:04 – 00:55:18:20
But, Yeah, but I was just. I just wrote, like, literally one guy around on this earth, and you spending time talking about chem trails all the time? No, but I do feel like if a plane flies into a building. Right. That is as long and cool as the Twin Towers. Twice. Right? Both of those buildings. A plane flies into it, right?

00:55:18:22 – 00:55:40:24
Why does it not fall sideways? Well, how does it just fall down? You could do that test a hundred fucking times, right? It's never going to fall straight down. Why didn't it fall over? I'm not doing conspiracy theory. You mean it should? As soon as it should have fell immediately? Yeah. Maybe fall. I mean, something must have happened at the top.

00:55:41:00 – 00:56:05:17
Might have come off more. If that was sideways, there might have been. That would have been kind of a structural weakness, but we should have slightly went to the side or some or something. How does it go? Well, I did the right down to play the least amount of damage the parent knew. Yeah. Not to say. Yeah. It was just a very controlled I think really the the buildings around didn't seem to be affected.

00:56:05:19 – 00:56:09:13
No. The, the

00:56:09:15 – 00:56:32:16
I was a bit I did think it would be odd that the plane just disappeared into the building. I thought even something would come out the other side. But. So if you believe that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you saying that it did did it actually, even though it was it a plane light because something definitely hit. Yeah. People definitely died.

00:56:32:16 – 00:56:54:07
Did they. Or they didn't. They die. But when it hits this plane, it just disintegrates. The plane disintegrates. It goes away. Yeah. I wonder, is that right? And then if there was a problem, I mean, no, there was only parts of the plane that was found as well. I think the one that crashed and they failed. There was a lot, but I can't really recall that.

00:56:54:07 – 00:57:15:18
There was like, oh, we found the wing and we found the fan and we found the seat out from like, surely there was a chair. Surely there was row 13 CC that they found, I can't remember, I don't remember studies of people in the plane. I don't even know find anybody's. You know what else we need to do?

00:57:15:18 – 00:57:43:14
It. Flier. 7800. Whatever. It was the one in Indonesia. Doug. Yeah, I knew you going to say that. Yeah. All right. I still don't know. And they said, I know they found fuselage. They call it fuselage. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. The worst thing is pilot error is pilot error. The sign of poor bastards on the, Air India recently is the pilot.

00:57:43:14 – 00:58:04:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my pilot, a pilot. Yeah, but my mum flew to India recently. Yeah, I went on holiday to Goa and I was like, hey, you five. She said, Air India, are you having a laugh? She was like, do you want to see the prices to go there? Of course I'm fine. That won't happen again. I was like, fuck, he meant to hang on a second.

00:58:04:20 – 00:58:25:20
Ricky, as an Anglo-Indian yourself and of Indian heritage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't trust Indian Airlines? No, I'm not after that fucking crash that's just happened. You would only fly BA or something like that. Oh, might be. I also like BA all the way as all, That's what I said. I'm not allowed to say that. You know me.

00:58:25:20 – 00:58:46:08
You can say that their their flight, their plane has just crashed. Yeah. If it is Ryanair, if it was fucking Easyjet, it doesn't matter who it was, where they're from, if their airline has just crashed. I'm not getting on it isn't that they booked. This is so lots less likely because all safeguarding are put in place after it happened.

00:58:46:10 – 00:59:05:08
Good. Yeah I mean it should. They fucking should they. Right before we end this someone actually did email in. Let me just fucking find the bastard. Right. It's just really quick. I just explored enough. Just this. Yeah. Go.

00:59:05:10 – 00:59:29:19
So. Yeah. Investigate is recovery teams found human remains in. The wreckage is inside the tower's body. Fragments embedded in elevator shaft stairwells and office floors, plane debris and human remains on nearby rooftops and streets. Some remains were found hundreds of feet away. They also have a kind of teeth, bone tissue, jewelry, wallets, clothing. All this was cataloged and sent to forensic analysis.

00:59:29:21 – 00:59:47:18
They identified some of the people on the plane using DNA testing. Right. I was going to say, how do they know? Like what? You are. Okay. We found human flesh in the in the lift. How do they know that was one of the when the fucking passengers. So this is so. So why don't we hear about the plane victim's much?

00:59:47:19 – 01:00:09:14
He said because the disaster was so enormous that plane victims were mixed with office workers, firefighters, police and civilians on the ground. There was no clean plane crash site. It was a horrific mass of debris and remains. Yeah, of course it was, because there's nothing there because, you know, this is what I'm saying. You're comfortable making that joke, right?

01:00:09:16 – 01:00:28:02
This is what they say. But what I don't know if I'm not joking, but I'm just saying no, but but we all. Why? Why is there why you said no? It just makes it was all a mass of bloody bloody. Yeah. And, Rick. Rick.

01:00:28:04 – 01:00:53:21
There was, you know, the guy who's a comedian, he looks like he's a bloody good wash. You went out, Kim Kardashian. Pete? Yeah. Pete Davidson. Yeah. His dad died in 911. Right. And when I did the roast of Pete Davidson, made jokes about his that died in the in the Twin Towers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We never joke about Tiananmen Square, do we?

01:00:54:01 – 01:01:15:18
That's not, all right to laugh at when the shrine got massacred. Yeah, yeah, but was it because it happens to us? We kind of like it. And we don't even joke about the London bombings. Ever. In fact, I've never heard anyone make. No, you're right. At Twin Towers. It's like fair game. What's that all about? Like I would be comfortable make a twin tower joke on the podcast.

01:01:15:20 – 01:01:36:14
I mean, I wouldn't really get much kickback. I wouldn't do it. But would you? I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't be comfortable doing it. But I feel like if I'm going to do it, it wouldn't be a problem. But we got more. We got more hate about Hope Solo's vagina than right than we would if we play. You know, I actually.

01:01:36:14 – 01:01:40:00
So why is it okay?

01:01:40:02 – 01:02:03:09
I don't know you to tell me don't. So I just I just find it strange maybe because it's like the. And I'm not saying you shouldn't laugh at these things. Yeah. It's a way of dealing with it. Right. And process it and moving parts. But it just seems like other terrorist attacks, like, you know, the ones that happened in Paris, the Paris bombings and the shootings at the back from the Bataclan, for example.

01:02:03:09 – 01:02:35:18
But yeah, better clown. Yeah, I remember that about the back. The I did actually do list before. So the major global events since 2000 and like new like will this be the 911. Right. So 2001 September 11th the obviously 911 attacks, 2003 Iraq war. I mean, that was bad. 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. Now that was a fucking that was that was that's got to be up there.

01:02:35:20 – 01:02:56:13
But it didn't have the same coverage. I felt like more people died a hell of a lot more people died. Yeah. It wouldn't do. No. Because it's such a it's a different type of thing isn't it. Yeah. Yeah sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It is a different type of thing. You're right. Anyway, I don't know. Global financial crisis, Arab Spring, mass protests in the Middle East.

01:02:56:13 – 01:03:29:24
Yeah. Rubbish. I'm a writer. Voice. What? I mean, no, no, it's good, obviously, that it happened, but it's in comparison to 911. But it's not 911 wins everything. The rise of ISIS like eight. So it's a competition, is it? It is. This is this is with the common, competition. Russia invaded Ukraine. I mean, the you know, this is September the 11th was the the big one, you know, the Taliban.

01:03:30:01 – 01:03:55:06
And I haven't even heard of the word Taliban, the article there and how, you know, you hadn't, I thought alcohol when it was first being touted. I thought it was a person. I thought I thought like, oh, yeah, it's Alan, you know, like, yeah. Oh yeah, I was on the second floor and finance Al-Qaeda. That's it, wasn't there this thing about bin laden as well, the body, like where is it?

01:03:55:06 – 01:04:16:23
And then they go, well, and I missed him. It's Muslim. There has to be had to be has to be buried. Was it a buried the 24 hours after the passing. Yeah, yeah. And it's a wedge baronetcy which I'm going to see dashed him and say and you're like, well what shouldn't you I know, I know, it's his faith, but yeah, pretty sure killing him is against his faith.

01:04:17:00 – 01:04:41:02
Yeah, right. Yeah. Hunt him down and killing him in a revenge. Revenge? Yeah, yeah, I like, but now you've killed him, right? That's. Stop all this. Let's do this properly. Now. Put him in. Put him to see. I mean, if we take his body back just to make sure. It definitely is not put him in the see, it's like, did you actually even kill him?

01:04:41:04 – 01:05:05:04
They should have William Wallace them. That's. You should like. Yeah, I'll say that I am arms, legs and head to the four corners of the States. Yes. And like I said as a warning, you fucking try this again. This is what happens to you. And they spend years and billions of pounds in a war and Afghanistan and all the troops over there hiding in caves and all that long.

01:05:05:05 – 01:05:30:07
And then they find him. They just when they say no one sees it. No. Yeah. Fuck you. This is insane. I'm convinced it happened. But if it didn't happen, well, what happens now? I don't know, who cares? So we're going to do it. But, the the the, look, if they said to you that we've got this, there's a lot of problems going on in the States or in the UK.

01:05:30:09 – 01:05:55:18
Yeah, right. You can we can spend hundreds of millions, if not billions of pounds chasing this man here. Or we can just invest in the health service, save loads and loads of lives, reduce cancer rates, weight and times. Old people eat whole people in our homes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you? What? Would you rather hunt bin laden or heat the homes of old people?

01:05:55:20 – 01:06:24:09
I would rather they fill the potholes in, if I'm honest. Potholes. I'm. I'm rich, I am, I'm active. I'm active on Devizes issues. I'm not joking. I am active on there. I'm. I'm complaining about potholes out the potholes. Off the potholes. What do you mean you're complaining? Where are you complaining? Those issues Facebook group. I'm like I'm I'm gammon I've got Brock I was look at your in a message in I'm guy councilor Ian Wallace.

01:06:24:09 – 01:06:47:05
That's his name. Can you sort he's put us on because I, I personal time the other night. Did I tell you this. No. I hit a pothole pitch fucking black driving 30 mile an hour. Oh my God. Bang that bang. So I sounded like. And I'm driving along slowly cos that's printer left and right. Oh my God. God.

01:06:47:05 – 01:07:06:21
The tire I've had to replace from pit in a pothole how much I pay my fucking council tax and they want to put it up. I wonder if they want to charge us more for doing less. And I've had enough. My. That is, that takes a piss to get Tories. And what, keep Renault warm. If they could eradicate every pothole in England.

01:07:06:23 – 01:07:23:03
Yeah. Oh, we're going to go and chase down bin laden. But you're not going to actually see his body. You're going to we're going to chuck it in the sea. And this is why they got to let the planes fly into the towers. So people be more concerned about actually catching bin laden, because what he did to us.

01:07:23:05 – 01:07:47:00
Yeah. Then, fitting a fix in the potholes. So maybe it wasn't me. Yes. I mean, bin all. They didn't even do anything to us. Essentially, Americans say, like, we should have just been like. Yeah, so sort the potholes. Flaky math. Right. Okay. I mean, I could speak for a lot longer about, if you had any problems recently.

01:07:47:02 – 01:08:05:05
I hit them all the time, and but but luckily, my tires haven't done, you know, the better I. Oh, no, no, I need that suspension. And it's like the fucking bearings. All the other stuff. Yeah. I mean, if you damage your will, then you're talking, you know, the bushes. I don't even know what they what. They're fucking cool.

01:08:05:07 – 01:08:27:08
But every time take over the air. Yeah. Your bushes on your tires are one. Fuck yeah. So I say anything because I, I bust my tire. I called out an emergency tire replacement surface Mondays. And even your tires are bald. And I mean what it look and my my tires were pulled like six points on your license. If you get caught by the police with bull tires.

01:08:27:08 – 01:08:46:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had no I was like, you replace the because you replace the last one last time I hit it because. Yeah, it was two, two years ago. I was a replacement for every two years. Yeah. I mean 20,000 miles on these tires. And why? Because they're fucking like Goodyear sports tires. Because of what? Stupid fucking car I didn't need.

01:08:47:01 – 01:09:08:02
These tires have to be replaced. £300 a pop for two. Oh, one for two. Oh, okay. Fuck me. Yeah. Every every turn, 3000 miles. I was like, it doesn't feel like a lot. And he said, normal tires, 50, 40,000, your tires 20,000 anyway. Because you can, you know, can't get any anymore where a lot more economical tires.

01:09:08:02 – 01:09:24:21
Well you have to get those fucking just I don't know, I just said can you replace my tires I think, what do you want me to do? He spent four hours finding new tires that cost less. Is that what you want? That's. Yeah, that's what I do. I know I've got a problem. I've got a man here. Fix it.

01:09:24:21 – 01:09:46:12
Yeah. Let me give you the money. You know, let me not speak to you again for ages. Right. How about the guy that came out and did it? He was the same man that changed your tire, and he knew he remembered me. But bearing in mind where I live, kind of fucking village delivered it. Just like. Yeah, one person that lives there, by the way, he's the postman and he's the land.

01:09:46:14 – 01:10:12:03
Yeah, I don't know. He remembered. He remembered so well. Funny. Yeah. Right. Okay. The topic for next week is going to be, so we do have something on a, you know, this called fuck Barry taught Barry the topic. Fuck Barry. The topic for next week is fashion. From 14 to 40 year old men. What was fashionable in your teens and early 20s?

01:10:12:03 – 01:10:42:13
What were you trying to say about yourself? 3740s a more comfortable? I'm more comfortable and at peace. We want to hear about your fashion faux past and the clobber where you knew you looked the Ballocks at my year seven school disco, I'd matching jeans and waistcoat kokanee I knew I fucking looked the tits right. I want to see your fashion photos as well.

01:10:42:15 – 01:11:05:17
I want to see the worst and the best. I've got loads. I'm going to post them on our Instagram because I just don't care. I've got photos of me with a mohawk I've got. And this one. Yeah. Must you remember my Sid Vicious T-shirt? You that you'd wear, like the tightest jeans possible? The Sid Vicious fucking T-shirt and black Turkish belt.

01:11:05:19 – 01:11:26:24
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Punk. My fucking so punk. Hahahahahahaha! I thought you, as I indicated, not punk. Yeah, I was, I didn't know what I was, right. This is you, all right? I find myself in some fucking ridiculous clothing. My my little brother. It was on the pod last week. He had some stages. He was. But he's a punk.

01:11:26:24 – 01:11:51:20
He was punk. He would wear a profile. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he had a mohawk that was a foot high. I've got a picture of him, actually. Have you seen it? We've been playing guitar with his mohawk. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's quality. And by the way, thank you so much for your comments about us having our first guest and for Alex and all, you know, all the, all the love you've shown and for the two years good product of our streets.

01:11:51:21 – 01:12:08:19
Right mate. Are well enjoyed it. Really enjoyed it. And I'm 100% going to get him back on his shame because the audio was so bad, but not much we could do. No, I mean, I didn't, you know, you couldn't get well when you want to listen to something, you listen to it. Yeah, you kind of go for it.

01:12:08:19 – 01:12:24:22
It was really good. It was really. I had a couple people messaged me saying, that's a really good episode. So, Nice. Did your mum, message you about it? Yes, she did it. So he she met. She listened to a bit of it. I've listened to it all, but. Yeah. How do you know what? Some of it.

01:12:24:24 – 01:12:49:09
If she's in the DMs again? Oh, she's saying it's just saying that she loves it. Loves that I love that episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't listen to all of those nine I got. I got nine and I know. So, if you've got anything about fashion, send it into lads anon pod@gmail.com and we're going to go into something only you know.

01:12:49:11 – 01:13:18:02
No we're not. This is, this is what the official. I've gone down on the summer bin laden. Well, okay. It's, it's always been on him. Was killed by US Navy Seals in, Abbottabad South. Made up Pakistan. Yeah. On the 2nd of May, 2011. Guys, we got him. The US took his body to the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson in the North Arabian Sea.

01:13:18:06 – 01:13:49:06
Later that day, he was buried at sea. The official explanation was that Islamic burial rites were followed. He was washed, shrouded, and prayers were said. He was buried within 24 hours, as required by Islamic custom. No country was willing to accept his remains. A sea burial prevent this grave becoming a shrine or a rallying point. So there is no grave, no time, no so tomb, no location you can visit.

01:13:49:06 – 01:13:53:15
His body was committed to the ocean.

01:13:53:17 – 01:14:13:24
Watching your face as you're reading now and you shaking your head doesn't sound right, Mike. That does not sound like just shovel, man. I just shot some Arabic geezer and just put a turban on his head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him. Yeah, yeah. The thing is. Right. Can I just say. Can I say something? I'm almost certain he doesn't wear a turban.

01:14:13:24 – 01:14:33:24
And that's a different religious ritual together. It's something else I shouldn't have said type in the. But, I was, I was I can't remember my mind's eye. I know he had a he had a bad had a headdress of some sort, which I don't know the right, but turbans specific to Sikhs. Sikhs. So. So my bad, my bad.

01:14:34:01 – 01:14:44:15
Yeah. Nice try. It racism is accepted on this part at any place. You can be racist. That's right. Yeah, yeah.

01:14:44:17 – 01:15:12:19
But for them to be gunning him down and this war on terror, the Taliban and Islam and everything else, and then they gave him a respectable burial. Yeah, they do the prayers and they wash him and do this and buried it, say, within 24 hours. They respect all that he's done. The Twin Towers is cost America and the UK trillions.

01:15:12:21 – 01:15:37:04
And they do that. It just doesn't add up. It was a turban. He will somehow say yeah yeah yeah yeah. My my yeah I remember okay. All right. Now we should do something okay yeah I go.

01:15:37:06 – 01:15:43:12
Wow. Something you know.

01:15:43:14 – 01:16:06:23
Buck Barry. So about seven years ago, I got properly depressed, and at the time, I couldn't afford therapy, so I knew I had to work it out myself. I was I was taking my taking life way too seriously and concentrating on failing, on a failing business. So I thought the best thing to do was to reintegrate things back into my life.

01:16:07:00 – 01:16:39:00
That made me happy. I decided to buy a season ticket more than therapy. I know the Tottenham and stop making music. Two things I gave up the year before. Anyway, a year or so later, due to the music I made, did about 4 or 5000 followers on Instagram and this weird thing started happening. For some reason, younger birds started sending me DMs calling me daddy sur un master what?

01:16:39:02 – 01:17:07:23
At first it felt super weird that because I made music anonymously and there wasn't a face to the account, I started getting a bit brave of it and playing along. I was getting these young women, some of them absolute rockets, messaged me in the morning asking for their daily rules and chores, or they'd write my name on their body before they left for work or college and all weird shit like that.

01:17:08:00 – 01:17:30:15
Anyway, within a couple of years, I met this woman online. We'll call her Ellie, who had a boyfriend. We'll call him Barry. They had a couple of kids and by all accounts they were happy. But it wasn't long before she started playing up as well. Calling me master was sending the odd pic, but then it started getting properly.

01:17:30:15 – 01:17:58:03
Our hands turned out that Ellie's favorite thing to do for me was right. Fuck Barry across its ears and then send me videos of it. Swing herself while screaming, Fuck Barry, you own this pussy as she orgasms. I knew it was absolutely nuts, but there I was every morning watching Ellie send these extreme videos where she was degrading Barry.

01:17:58:05 – 01:18:20:05
This was going on for a good few months until one morning I got a video and instead of a Fuck Barry video, it was her crying. Turns out she liked the vid she sent me so much, she used to save them on her phone to rewatch Barry that morning, had gone down her phone and seen all the videos and pics.

01:18:20:07 – 01:18:44:19
Everything. I couldn't believe it, I imagine it, it's bad enough finding out your missus has sent stuff, to say stuff to another man, but to see stuff she was sending evolving his humiliation must have been awful. She told me she has to block me. And if she could sort things out with Barry, fuck knows what she felt obliged to tell me anyway.

01:18:44:24 – 01:19:03:02
One of her mates followed me to. Yes. She used to send me stuff and had her own interesting kink, but one story at a time. Oh, you didn't send that in, so you need to send that in, by the way. Yeah, and she updated me on a lunatic. She updated me with a local lunatic and got her pregnant.

01:19:03:04 – 01:19:24:19
So now this poor bloke has lost his family and ended up having a kid with a well-known nut job. I feel like I've completely ruined this guy's life. And I still think about it nearly every day. I stopped entertaining these messages and cleaned up my account, which is now just my normal account. And that is something I need online.

01:19:24:19 – 01:19:46:00
I'm desperate to see this account. Yeah, I know what it is. Clean it up. He still got off some of the old stuff on there. Yeah, right. Look, I'll be honest. Yeah, I don't know if 100% believe all of it. Right. Okay. Well, what bit lost? Well, just so many girls were doing this. Master calling the master.

01:19:46:00 – 01:20:02:21
Unless his music was around that and it's sort of BDSM music or something. What was he doing? So was it just one person that was doing that? The way I heard it was. It was lots of girls. But yeah, loads of, saying about master and tell me what to do. And right in the night like that he talks about my daily tools.

01:20:02:21 – 01:20:23:22
Yeah. Well, I don't know that. I'm sure about it. I'm not saying you're not true. It just the way you wrote it sounds a bit like, I don't know if I believe it. Oh, yeah. I mean, fuck Barry. Fuck Barry of it. It's fucking great. Love it. Absolutely love it. Yeah. Right. Next week the topic is fashion.

01:20:24:03 – 01:20:46:19
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01:20:46:24 – 01:21:07:11
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