#136 | Men’s Fashion | From Military Coats To Skinny Jeans

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you wake up, go straight on rails. Eddie. Fucking sick little pig again. I don't mean before I get up. No, that is terrible. What I do, what do I do? So it might like my actual morning routine if you to hear it. Well, I'm not sure I do. How interesting is this going to be? It's not that interesting, but if you can tell me, like, get up, I brush my teeth, and.

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No, I don't want to hear it. No no no no. All right. What does that get? You see what I get up at 615? Okay. Go down. TS coffee's waiting to go up and all that for you, and then I'm lying in bed. You go to bed? At what time you went to bed last night? I went to bed last night.

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Probably about 12:20. How do you function? I don't know, that's five. And you're not even going straight to sleep at 20 plus 12. You probably look at your phone again. Yeah. There. There's a little. Yeah, there's a little. It's ten minute. Yeah. Yeah. So you're you're operating for five hours effectively of sleep a day. Yeah. On average it's about 515, 520 somewhere around there.

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That is mad. What about on a summer holiday? Do you stay in bed later, then I do stay in bed later. Then. But, I do like to try and be up as early as I can as well. And you feel fine? You're on holiday? No. Not really. I mean, it's hard as well. Yeah, I do, and after, this week go.

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I, I did it again, didn't I? Well, fucking did it again. Well, you went out Saturday, Got smashed. So you said like, parallel 26.

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Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Go on. You went out, you got smashed, paralytic, got paralytic. And, how bad was you? Was you hammered? Yes. So I went out for the football at 1230. I didn't get in until 12:12 at night, so I was on the sesh all day. I didn't eat anything, just drinking beer. It's as far as I know.

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All day. Yeah, right. Good. Yeah. Lesion. So. And then on Sunday, obviously I felt fucking horrendous because that's what one is going to feel. That is par for the course right. Yeah. And I, and I literally I was just lying on my sofa like this. Yeah I was just lying the entire day. I don't know why he was in a coffin with his eyes like a vampire.

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Yeah. So I was just like that. My eyes were closed, but I couldn't go to sleep. Even on this, even Sunday, even on the Sunday. Had the beer fair, had all of that stuff. I went to look at something on my phone, and I just saw loads of these black blood photos. And then, you know, kind of, where your mind is connecting to.

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Fuck. I was I was having a conversation with someone about this and saying that, and fuck, where was I when that happened? And, like all these different things and, you know, then after that, the beer fair hung feel dreadful comes to Monday. Monday is the day I'll go for a walk, work again. All that I'll do Monday.

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I can't do any of that. Yeah. Even worse. Tuesday fucked. It's only Wednesday, so Tuesday we did. Well, I did a pot review quickie with Ricky for patron, and then I did a couple of other bits, but I was still like, this is no good, Rick. This is no good. You've always been that way, though. Not probably not that bad just from 12 hours.

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But if we would have gone out and bought a big one, you. Some people have worse hangovers and others. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just seem to like. Oh, I would not be boasting because I'm not proud of this at all. But I would go through all night, have a couple hours sleep and then go back to the pub on the day after, like when I was on my own.

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Living on my own. Yeah, yeah, it'd be time to get up and like I do a couple of hours sleep, call it sleep, pop it open at 11. I'll go back to the open. Okay. Was this the time where you were, at your worst. As in drink and drugs? Yes. So you had a tolerance to it.

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Would you say? I think it's in-built. I don't think you build up, but you do build up a tolerance. To a certain extent, I think I'd be to say no, no, no, I couldn't do that. Now. I'd feel like I'd die. But I think it's because I'm. My body's older. And I was more resilient that in Robert.

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Okay. Tolerance. I might be wrong though, but I just. I feel like what? Why? What you. Do you think because you put too much time between your drinking sessions that it gets you worse? No, no, I I've always been bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, yeah, it's. But can you beat yourself up don't you. Whereas. Yeah hugely.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you beat yourself up. But why don't you just so I, I had a good time. This is how I feel now. And this will pass. Well, I don't I would look in the mirror and go, I forgive you. That's what I used to say to myself. You had a good time. I forgive you this.

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You used to say that to me as well. Forgive yourself. Forgive yourself. Well thrown. Holy water up man. Forgive yourself because you had a good time, right? And you need that human connection with people. Yeah, you've got to do it. So what if you look bad? I feel a bit bad. So what? You owe yourself a Domino's. Get yourself a Domino's.

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How about you feel better? No wonder I was in such a bad spot. Yeah, the thing is, it's the knock on effect, right? If you had a hangover now. Right. If you did, and it's like middle of the week and you've got a record, how many podcasts you got to be? That's why I maybe it maybe a cheeky little talkSPORT in there.

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Yeah. That's why don't do it. Yeah that's what I did. So I gave up everything. That's why I gave up taking gear. All of that stuff I can't. Yeah it's choice. I would do that and destroy everything because I, I cannot work, I cannot work, I can't. Can you hear that, Christian? Yeah, yeah. Or it's got. Did you hear that?

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Yeah, it's. It's all right. Sorry, sorry. It's Bipoc podcast. Yeah. So it was like, I've got kids. I got taken to school. So you can't write at the weekend. They want to do stuff. You got family. You can't. Yeah. Whereas on your own you can. Write on your own. And you at work in the morning. It's just you write a job.

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As long as a job, don't find out. It doesn't matter if you're criminally hung over or you haven't sex. Because I used to boucherie occasionally I would go, oh God, I would go through all night and then go to work and have to record stuff in front of the camera and stuff. There's tons. I look back on now and I can see them.

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Hi, it's bad when it back in like 2014 on Bull Street. This video is a mental there. There's videos on the on YouTube of me pinging. God yeah. I'll, I'll, I don't I'm embarrassed by it. So I don't want you know, I don't think it's time to on that no one would see. But I'll send it to you.

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You can see I'm fine. Yeah, I remember a time when I'm doing it with someone. I'm on the on a couch with doing football conversation with someone, and I'm paying off. I'm not on pills. Fucking tablets. Yeah, that's what a Friday and a Friday at lunch time was. Just order up. I'll get a man round the back of the, round the back of the a, my office because I shouldn't relax.

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Yeah, it's something I, I would, I would because we drink in the office from, from lunchtime onwards on Friday. So in my head it's, it's like well obviously I'm going to get some care. What about work? I did a presentation of one not on. Okay. Once I smashed it. I smashed it right. I remember we went to a club.

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What was that? There was a place in Shoreditch. It was a, It was like, Mother. Yeah, it was it called mother? Yeah, mother. Mother. And we got banged up. It was middle of the week. And I remember being in the taxi, it being really late at night, I mean, early morning, and, my head was just against the window, and I'm just looking at the blur of lights, traffic lights and all that light.

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And then. And then I'm just not really taking anything in. And then the like, the taxi kind of slows down and I like, look up and then I just see the words Moorfields and I'm outside my work and I'm like, I've got to be here in 2.5 hours. I was like, this is the fucking worst in my life.

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That was, yeah, shit. Because, you know, you got to go home, get. And then you go get back there. Yeah, you do it. You did it, I did it, I did, I literally did it. That. Yeah, that that that was bad. That was bad. I remember when one of the worst ones, when my brother was in Brighton and we met up, I remember Lee and we were bashing.

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We were all, I mean, I, we, we went to like, Brighton for the day out. I met my brother and his missus at the time. And Lee, it's very hazy. We went to sort of some sort of hip hop night in Brighton. Oh, and it was cool. I had a good time and by the end of the night, this is how disgusting we were.

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Right? And, if this is normal, if you going out and getting mashed and you into that sort of messed up culture, if you want to call it that partying culture, you end up doing anything. Like once you get to the end of your drugs, you do anything, right? Oh, okay. So if you got pills, you crush them up into the lines to make them go longer.

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Oh yeah. Oh my God, I'm shuddering saying this. I can't believe I did this stuff. And then. Yeah. And so all we had was, nitrate poppers, fucks that. Oh. Okay. Yeah. So we're all just sitting on my brother's floor just having bashing on poppers. Wow. Oh. Have you ever done it? Yeah. Have. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it it's, it's a lot.

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It's like, Yeah. Because it hits you and, anyway, we did that and then it comes to a point was like, we can't go. We can't do this forever. We've got to go. Can you let's. Elliott. Yeah, I can, I don't know what's going on. Yeah. We can't we can't do this forever. We have to do something else.

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And then, And then I left, and I got on a train with. I had to get a train back to London, and I've been up all night. I left Lane, you guys, I never want to see your face again because we're. We're all for the rough. I've got the train back to Victoria, then got the Victoria train home to Crouch End.

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Yeah, I had a shower and got dressed, and I came and met you boys in Hoxton. Oh my gosh, do you remember it? No. The one is a picture of you pretending to be Alex. Oh that. No I. Yeah yeah yeah, that that was like yeah. Oh no I was just, I just didn't think anything of it. I just thought this is, I was able to.

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I'm like, I'm at a time now where I, after this weekend, and I've had a few. I'm not I'm never, ever going to say I'm not drinking again. I'm teetotal. And the number one and the yeah, I will, I'm weak. But one of the main reasons is one of the most funnest, freest, beautiful times of my life is when I'm at a gig or an event or whatever, when I'm with my misses and we're footloose, fancy free, having a few beers, having a laugh, just me and her.

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And it would be shit if I sofa. And she's like knocking back the lines. It's weird going out with someone where you're having a drink and the other person's just sober. Yeah, but it's just not fun. No, but that's fun. You can do it. It's so. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Fucking forgive yourself. You deserve that. Yeah. Okay.

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Okay. Okay. When I went out with my my sister Solomon, in the summer, honestly, what I would say. But maybe top ten days of my life. It was so good. Everything about it was wicked. Yeah, pills were good. The, the venue was impeccable. I've got we've got to go back there in the summer. You done?

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We have the Royal Naval College. Yeah, it's like the. Oh, it's like an old university. And it. The gig is in the grounds of the university. And there's these old men, all buildings, all ornate buildings around you and just rain. And then. And then a set up of a stage, and everyone just smashed again. Dancing to house music is wicked.

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You know, when you said that at the time, right? You said on the Thames you said Royal Naval College in my mind when you told me the first time, man, you know, there's like that. This is like a station military boat in the Thames. I thought you were partying on that. What? Lights was Belfast? Yeah, that's what it is.

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Yeah. I thought you were having it on there. And I might as class will go. Yeah. Oh my brother. Yeah. Oh my. For sure. Right on the jungle doing a. Yeah on the jungle.

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On the night. Hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Lover music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Bands that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous. It's episode 135.

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I'm Ricky Heath. Flap, two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions. And I feature something I know you and I. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod. How's it going, Flav? If it wasn't spoke to you in ages, why am I just like captain? We. Oh, actually, we did do a pod on Tuesday, didn't we?

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I don't really remember. Yes. Yeah, yeah, we did. Yeah. Well, why did you say that? I don't know, it just, normally we've done like a couple of previews, a couple of mine, but, you know, there's a couple of, check ins even. You rang me yesterday and you were like, you know, you never know. It felt like you, you missed me a bit or something.

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Not missed me, but, you know, just checking in to see that there was, you had. We hadn't spoke. No, I don't know what I don't I didn't notice. No, I didn't yeah. Yeah, I noticed, sorry. That's right, that's it. Right. But you're good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I just hope I see your people on WhatsApp groups. Yeah.

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They message you and they go, I my. That's the end. Hi. What? What do you want? No question, no question. Yeah. Hi, mate. But say the question, not just. Hi, man. I'll go. Go. Hi. You're right. Yeah. I'm good. What do you want? Yeah. Just tell me what you need. Tell me what you want. We can all move on with our lives quicker.

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That would be much appreciated. Now, do you know what we are talking about into today's topic? Fashion? I think you said remember. Yes. That's right. So, two weeks ago, 9/11 and terrorist attacks week after that, Epstein thought we should, you know, let's, let's go to something a bit more palatable. Yeah. Do you, Well, I was a kid.

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Yeah, but how how much? How much were you aware of fashion when you were a kid? Like growing up a lot? What? That was really, stylish. I put a lot of money and thought into where you. What you wore, and my older brothers were as well. So we you kind of heavily influenced by your older brothers.

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You thought when you younger your older brothers, when you were kind of in decline into a teen. So they would always dress up small and I always what I still do. To be fair, every fashion conscious, and all my brothers aim to act smart. My dad at 73, still still that smart and puts, yeah, spends money on clothes and stuff like that.

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So yeah, I think it's I, I think people underestimate how important it is and the impact that it can have on you, because there's this idea that fashion and, and, and buying nice clothes is a kind of vanity thing. And it gets to some degree it is. It makes you feel nice. It makes you look good. When you've got clothes on that you've you've invested in and you think that's good on you, but also it's a presentation thing.

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And, having a, a good eye with clothes and how to put things together and, and to, to to pull off something that's might be slightly unique, says a lot about who you want to be portrayed does and who how people receive you. So it's actually way, way, way more important than yeah, yeah, yeah. Than just simply buying clothes that you like.

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It has, you know, it leaves an impact. It's interesting you saying that because, you dress like shit so I can, well know the interesting bit. No, you're you mentioning the, the uniqueness, like, in in your mind, are you, when you're putting something together or when you, you know, picking something out? D are you are you actually thinking I like this because it's a unique item and I want to be unique.

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I know, I don't look, I'm. I seem to like things that that most people don't like. And I don't, I, I wouldn't teach of that to an extent. Yeah. I like trainers and stuff like that. Like. Yeah. Oh, now I forgot that we were actually talking about this, but I have these on which are, these are like, one tends with they've been adapted to look like hiking shoes.

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And that is a trainer, isn't it? I don't think you'll see anyone else wearing these trainers. No they're not. They're discontinued, so you can't get them anymore anyway. Right? But, I love them. And you have always been into trainers. Yeah. My my dad used to think I was gay because of the shoes I would wear. And, my, my first girlfriend, serious girlfriends, mums was convinced I was gay because of my shoes.

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That is crazy. I don't know why, but it was just the colorful, I guess. Like back in the day. Rick, the best trainers in my in my experience, in my opinion, the best trainer ever produced, the most beautiful trainer ever produced. Yeah. Or a pair of, trainers called the Air riffs. Knock out riffs and they have a split toe.

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They slip on like a sandal. Yeah, I remember you wearing them. Yeah, I had a couple of pairs and actually was influenced by my older brother Ross, who had the first pair that I saw. What Ross guys was on him as well. Was it? Yeah. Ross go. But that that pair, the knock out riffs there were green and black.

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An original pair of them, if you still have them, are worth fortune now they're like £800, but there's hardly any of them around. And they did a reissue with a sort of a Velcro scrap strap that went across it. Yeah, yeah. And there was a leather triangle on the, the repro ones, but in the old ones it was a material triangle, which were much nicer.

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And yeah, he bought them and I was like, I love those. And so I bought a pair and that they didn't. I thought, well, people hated those. Yeah, I hated them. I really did hate them. Yeah. I mean. When you like. So you promise me you're in French, right. When you were growing up, what about, like, your mum or anything like that?

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But she not, She not kind of, I don't hate letter bands or anything, like, you know, just wearing kind of like a which is quite mumsy. Yeah. Yeah, relatively. She was mumsy. She, she, So my mum and dad split when it was now five. So my mum left and, not this matters much, but she, she didn't, she left and she didn't really have any money, but she was a nurse and stuff.

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And then I think she had a, she had a second child and had to give up and stuff. So, so no not really mum, but but my dad, what about you? Well, obviously. Exactly. Same parents for like when I was five. And I lived with my mum and my sister, so my fashion isn't obviously going to come from that.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it was just that long. It was mainly the lads that I grew up with on my street. Single mum providing for two children, working two jobs. So a lot of it was what was on trend. And from the market, more than likely. And definitely wasn't from my dad's fashion sense, 100%. And I'll probably say my cousins to an extent as well.

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So it, I wasn't really I wouldn't say I was a, I'd say I was a fashionable kid, as in the sense that I wore fashionable clothes like Nike or Reebok or whatever it was, but I didn't actually have a love for fashion, or it wasn't kind of like I would.

00:24:23:16 – 00:24:57:06
Piece together anything that I was wearing. It was just a t shirt and shorts until I got obviously. So, you know, my younger teens went to school, secondary school, and that's kind of where I and again, it still wasn't like now I remember when I went to secondary school and everyone in my year, the year below and above will remember that I used to go to school and I had a yellow three quarter length Reebok coat, not a pure yellow Reebok kind of a picture of it, I think.

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Yeah. I've also got a yellow Reebok back then, my black school trousers or whatever. So people you saw used to look like a bumblebee walking down the road, which I didn't know whether to take as a compliment or not. And then I upgraded that coat to a navy blue and yellow Tottenham Umbro coat. Maybe it's that one that.

00:25:18:12 – 00:25:54:03
Yeah. Absolute equality. But again, it wasn't like, I don't know, I never really found myself fashionable. I didn't find I didn't find a voice or kind of use fashion as a vehicle, as something that I wanted to say about myself or who I was. I didn't really know who I was, if that makes sense. I was just buying stuff because, you know, Firetrap was the brand at the time really as a net a or Nicholson or I'm a rock cheese as well.

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You rock for shows like at school you wore kickers or you would just coated off every single person would kickers. And I think later on as well, there used to be another brand, that came out called Pod that were just a shitty version of kickers, really, that people were. But if you were, if you were a pod again, you'd get beaten base were I think that they were a little bit more when I was, when I was a little bit older actually.

00:26:26:17 – 00:26:58:17
But yeah. And so I'd always buy brands and clothes not to represent me, but because it was popular. And I remember when I was, say, my first, my first ever expensive game that I bought was a fire trap puffer coat, and it was 200 pounds, and it was 1999 and it was, it was like, I think like, you know, the feather, goose feather or something like that.

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When you wash it and you take out the washing machine, it would stink because of these bird feathers in it. And you could unzip the puffer arms as well. Fucking really weird. But anyway, every single cunt in my school was wearing one, and I was like, my mom. Yeah, yeah, it might be it. Maybe. And it was.

00:27:15:11 – 00:27:44:06
It was a spendy coat. If I had one of those like, I'd be one of the boys kind of thing. And I remember saving up my money for ages, and then I. And then I bought one, and I was like, yes, I'll let the fucking done. But it still wasn't probably what I wanted to wear. I remember well when I bought it, and then within three weeks I went to Tottenham v Leicester in the League Cup final.

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We scored in that 91st minute, my cousins and my dad and everyone jumped at me. I fell down the old seats at Wembley and I got back up and I tomato sauce and mustard, a newspaper all just stuck to this brand new 200 pound coat that fucking saved up for, ruined it. But never mind. But yeah, so it was never really, something that until later life like it in teens.

00:28:12:20 – 00:28:41:02
It was the, what was the thing that you saved up for the most when you were younger? And do you remember? Well, I used to get loads of hand-me-downs from my brothers, which is quality. Yo, how did you feel about that? I was absolutely fine. No hand-me-down fucking Versace and Armani and. And, you know, trainers of Hardy boys.

00:28:41:04 – 00:29:02:02
Yeah. That is, it's not like I went from a charity shop. This is my blood. You know. Not that I know, but but, like, obviously for, like, my sister, I would get hand-me-downs from my sister. Right. But not. No. I know exactly. You know, the United Colors of Benetton. Fucking jumper. Some shit like that, you know, I mean, something that's a bit unisex that I can get away with.

00:29:02:02 – 00:29:22:16
And it's like, well, I was like, you don't let me down from my brother in my 20s, I was. Yeah, yeah, I thought I didn't want it. Yeah. Him my brother would have just drop off a bag bin bag full of designer clothing. Clothing. I'm like, that's me. Sorted. For six months I was I didn't have a pot to piss in.

00:29:22:18 – 00:29:42:08
Yeah. I mean, like quite a few years ago now, one of my mates, he'll be listening. Actually, he, he came round mine and he was like, oh, you're right, Rick, how's it going? Because I may have, it was either I've put on weight or I've lost weight. Wherever I'm like, I've got these t shirts hardly worn, Fred Perry polo shirt hardly will not.

00:29:42:08 – 00:30:06:09
Do you want them? And I'm like, yeah, fuck it, I'll take him. I know that. Just sat in my wardrobe. Yeah. And I just couldn't bring myself to wear him. Why? Because I don't know. But I'd have not. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. That. I'd have no qualms going to a charity shop and finding, a vintage Fred Perry or a Fred Perry or whatever.

00:30:06:09 – 00:30:24:12
I'm picking that out, washing it, going. I'm aware I'll just wear my mates clothes over me. Plus like other people to see. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. No, you're right, you're right in that respect. Yeah. But my brother's at a different social, social circle at that time to me. So it didn't really matter. Yeah. And they'd never know.

00:30:24:14 – 00:30:43:12
Like there'd be stuff that doesn't fit me to. I might even shut down to it. So, Alex, see if he wants it. Especially if it's barely been worn. I'm really. Yeah. No issue with that at all. I think more people should do that. Yeah. So I, Yeah. No, I never had any issue with that. Really.

00:30:43:12 – 00:31:06:00
I'm charity shop. So what do you sketch out? You shopping quite a lot. I, it's an I first with you at the time, but do you remember in Camden, like Camden used to be? The greatest for charity shop and especially, charity shop. Military clothes. Oh, yeah. That that military jacket or something. Oh, yeah. I did like a green.

00:31:06:05 – 00:31:31:19
I'm so fucked off that I have no photos of any of that time of my life. Of me in this plot. Proper green military jacket, gold buttons. And it was like of that time of, you know, discovering the Libertines. And it wasn't that red kind of a jacket that they wore, but it was along those lines of that military Camden Rock and roll drink, drugs.

00:31:31:19 – 00:32:04:19
Yeah. All that era, you was really influenced by music. Yes. So when I got into so went through school, I just wore was fashionable or what was, you know, unveiled at the time. And then I went to work, worked in a warehouse for a bit, went back to college after that. And then when I went to college and I started doing media studies, that is where everything changed for me.

00:32:04:21 – 00:32:34:09
So I did two years media studies and meeting people that wanted to create film, music, like all these different things, just a lot more creative people, that were that weren't really scared to, express themselves and be who they really wanted to be. And I think that was the first place where I kind of was taught that I can I can be who I wanted to be and where what I'm wanted and listen to what I wanted to and stuff like that.

00:32:34:11 – 00:32:57:16
So back in those times, I fucking know. I went through an a, right. And, I kind of all my life, like at school, I had a French crop and a sleeper earring. And then I got to college. Yeah, to the ear and out grew my hair. I had, like, a mohawk at one point. Fucking mad. I had a mohawk.

00:32:57:16 – 00:33:22:22
And you're not like, you know, your brother's mohawk? Not. Not. That style is a bit more looser of the Mohawk, but, you know, shave sides, Mohawk and that. And then I had, I bootcut jeans, but the side bootcut kind of flared. Yeah. They were so flared right that the back they would drag on the floor and they got all muddy and ripped and you could but hardly have anything there.

00:33:22:24 – 00:33:49:00
And I, I also used to wear, God, this is fucking mental. I can't believe it. Just remembered this. This is fucking Ricky. I used to wear two, skateboard chains, so I'd wear a silver chain that went from the front to the back, which was kind of like a low level on my hip. And then a second one, which is really low down to like, mid-thigh.

00:33:49:02 – 00:34:11:15
So that's where I kind of got to my, that's where I discovered, you know, at college. That's when I discovered The Libertines. Yeah. That's when I discovered the Smiths. Used to Oasis before then, I was always into our vices because that was from school. Yeah, yeah. So I wasn't like an indie kid. Yeah, well, when we met you, it was like.

00:34:11:19 – 00:34:33:06
I don't know if it was before we met. You was into Fred Perry's on what? Not before. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So that was college, right. And then a year after that I moved to London. Yeah. And that was just on my. Yeah. Oh just a my trajectory, you know, going through different, uniform then was skinny jeans.

00:34:33:08 – 00:34:55:17
Skinny jeans. Everybody was in skinny jeans. Yeah. Yeah. Like your skinny jeans were ridiculously skinny. They. I like a little bit of back to mine, but. But you also, like, spray on my brothers. Ryan's was like sprite chickens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Elasticated. Yeah. I went to, I needed to work, you know. Did I talk to you about my, my jeans?

00:34:55:17 – 00:35:21:00
I did it last week. Put the jeans and, on the Friday I went to, I needed a pair of jeans, and I went to next, and I bought a pair of jeans from next. And when I bought that, that the pair of jeans from next, you know, I just felt so like, like middle aged dad has just bought.

00:35:21:02 – 00:35:46:12
When I got home, I just kept saying to my missus, hi, my name is Ricky, and I wear jeans from next. Hi, I'm Ricky, I wear next jeans. Fucking what a cotton. And all this stuff. Oh, God. Like, where is this Ricky to me, this is last Friday. Hello? I was just like, it's not on that guy.

00:35:46:12 – 00:36:07:04
Now, what happened if 20 year old me could see 43 year old man, he would beat the shit out of me. I was like, you used to be proud of yourself. You used to be someone. Ricky. What were they like on there? All right. And the thing is, the main thing, when I got in there, I was looking, I wanted to get some fitted jeans.

00:36:07:04 – 00:36:34:08
Right? Not skinny, but fit. Yeah. So tapered. I saw, loose fit. Yeah. Double double railings. I saw, baggy double railings, straight leg double railings. And in the dark little corner, one railing was fitted jeans like, that, you know, they're not no one wants any any more. And I was like, I'm out of fashion now and I'm not.

00:36:34:08 – 00:36:54:13
Then the realization of jeans out of fashion and I'm shunned into a corner and I'm in next, I was like, God, man, I might just kill myself. Yeah. So the fashion now for kids because I know this because I put we bought loads of clothes for Will for his birthday. He's finally got to the stage where he wants to to look good.

00:36:54:15 – 00:37:12:19
I saw a photo of him on his birthday. He was looking great on, wasn't it? Yeah. So he's he's really self-conscious about, like, his body because he is. There's not any meat on him. He's very, fit, not thin. He's just as if there's not a single bit of fat on him. He's not. He's. That's the same, right?

00:37:12:19 – 00:37:35:08
He's very lean. But because of that, he's got square shoulders close. He's got a good frame in her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clothes just hang on him brilliantly. So we he's. Whereas he would never listen to me about what we clothes he should wear. Some things I can kind of advise more than kind of getting on board with.

00:37:35:10 – 00:37:56:02
So. Yeah, he, they're into really wide fit jeans now, like, wide to the point where they're not flares, but they're really wide. Yeah. And he that he bought those and I was like I hate them. But that's what I'm not. You know you can wear what you want. Yeah I had it with a, a folk chord.

00:37:56:02 – 00:38:21:12
Royal coral chord. It called chords cordial, corduroy, corduroy. Yeah, yeah. Which was a drink. It corduroy. JetBlue's dark blue corduroy jacket from folk. And he had the single button down up at the top, and I was like, you are going to slay like women. I'm gonna ask you. He's been looking boy as well. But yeah.

00:38:21:12 – 00:38:49:18
So, was the same. Yeah, yeah. So they sort of widely what fitted. What fitted? Jeans. Yeah. And I was just like. Like I, like a lot, obviously. I mean, I'm not supposed to be the fashionable one. I'm 43. I'm fucking. That's, just whatever. That's fine. But it was that realization last week shopping for jeans, and I was just like, I'm a guy who is wearing a style of jeans that no one really wears anymore.

00:38:49:20 – 00:39:12:18
And I'm shopping at next. Buy my fucking jeans. But, in terms of, like, a middle aged man who doesn't really have to be the fashion guy anymore. Yeah, I still I still kind of want to portray a certain look and dress in a certain way. And I went on the club this week, which is a panel show about football.

00:39:12:20 – 00:39:36:12
Yeah. And just got destroyed for what I was wearing. In fact, they did, they did a vote. No, no, they, they did. Like, if we get 500 likes of us to stand up and show everyone what he's wearing. Oh, naturally, he got to 500 not to stand up and show. He's a got a pair of rascal, jogging bottoms, but not jogging bottoms.

00:39:36:12 – 00:39:56:24
They like. I don't want you to. How you describe them. They're like polyester wool. But they look like I. So it's it's quite the made up of, like, brown blocks. Oh, my God, it's just a photo you sent in the WhatsApp group. You said because you said I found these trainers. Yeah. And then you had those days.

00:39:56:24 – 00:40:10:21
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone sent me a message. Thank. Crab's out of his jeans. He's got some fucking rascal Clover on what comes out of his jeans.

00:40:10:23 – 00:40:29:04
Fuck. Oh my God. Hang on a second. They, Do you know what the Penneys is jumping? I genuinely thought, you know, like loungewear. You're at done. You got to go. Also read. The day's done. You just sit in home and jog him. You actually wore those trousers out? I wear them out all the time. Fucking hell.

00:40:29:04 – 00:40:59:08
Really? I've even combined them with this. You, And I had a pink underwear after they had that on as well. Fucking no. Right. Pink leg, baseball caps. I like it. I think they look good, but I understand, I understand people don't agree. This is the biggest tragedy of my life. This this overshot wax London.

00:40:59:10 – 00:41:22:10
And I saw this putting a bit of weight, so I can't do it up anymore, but it's lovely. Overshot this. Oh, yeah. It is absolutely beautiful. And I saw it and I bought it about. I've had this about two and a half years. Yeah, but wax London side, I've decided on like Instagram and Facebook and I've seen, I've literally seen 4 or 5 people with this.

00:41:22:15 – 00:41:44:23
In fact, my brother Ryan had bought the same overshot. So we have to test whether or not he's wearing it. Yeah, yeah. The biggest tragedy came when do you ever see, traitors. The show, the traitors? No, I know of it, but I don't watch it. Alan Carr, I'll meet you there. I know what he was wearing it.

00:41:45:01 – 00:42:09:05
He isn't the fashion icon. No. For those that don't know, Alan Carr, is a very funny comedian. But super, super camping isn't a fashion item. I can't. Yeah. Oh, he's not like you, Alan can't go. Which, like him at all. So I can't. He's nine for every. Yeah. Wearing this anymore. Yeah, I get that that,

00:42:09:07 – 00:42:34:12
Oh, God. Oh. Did you get the car? Yeah. Well, that is how we, Yeah. Fuck. You know, My, that is terrible. Like, I just want to go back to, like, you saying I'm not going to send you a picture of it. I found it, okay? Because, there's a there's a, men's fashion magazine.

00:42:34:14 – 00:42:54:16
Yeah, like a lifestyle magazine. I've looked at some times. I've got quite a good, good eye. Right. And they did a piece on this jacket, after I, after, I was seen fucking wearing this jacket. It's not even wearing it with a button up. He's wearing it with a top, and it's fucked it, man.

00:42:54:18 – 00:43:29:05
It's, My. Anyway, have you sent it? I'm just, just sending it now. Okay. Okay, here's the link. Like. Like we were saying, we in our heyday, in when we're going out in London. So it was way back then. Fuck you. In our heyday, like in London, right where I found my voice, I found, what was it my mum says it's like.

00:43:29:07 – 00:43:57:04
And then when you find, you find your people finding your, your tribe. That's it. Thank you. Finding your tribe. I kind of had that bit college where I was into different music. I didn't actually listen to an alternative scene introduced to more different clothes. And then I came to London, and that's where I really found my, my tribe and what I wanted to look like.

00:43:57:04 – 00:44:21:05
Hang around with all your brothers and them dressing small and yourself as well. Remember the pico and winkle picker? Yeah, I they I bear it in the running order. I mean, it's not actually, but, you know, we we can we talk about it now as hell. So so I used to meet Flav and his brothers at a pub, in Tottenham.

00:44:21:07 – 00:44:46:11
And when I first got there, he's, brother Ryan used to wear this peacoat, just, you know, standard cream, pico and, some winkle picker shoes from Russell and Bromley. Yeah. And every time I would speak to Flav on MSN, I think it was. And I'd always be like, after the comma, have you lost your brother? You've got to remember, there was no back then.

00:44:46:11 – 00:45:05:11
There was no like WhatsApp. You weren't in direct contact with people. Yeah. So it wasn't like you were like we would talk every day, but yeah, through MSN. That's why I'm such a big thing. Messenger. So it was a bit of an effort for me to just ask my followers what I'm saying, right? Yeah, it would have been dusty thinking about it.

00:45:05:13 – 00:45:24:18
But anyway, you come back with a good you tell me. Russell and Romney shows. No, hang on a second. This isn't the story. The story is like, you know, the story is Ricky would or this didn't just. I asked him and then if you asked him about issues, this went on for about eight months. Every single time I spoke to.

00:45:24:18 – 00:45:44:05
Have you also brother? Have you also brother you I was probably and I'm like, I'm not going to ask my brother because you will not stop about this. I won't, I'm not going to ask him. You're never going to know. He fucking every time like just accept the. You weren't going to know. You wouldn't let it drop. It's like Alex with these fucking shirts I've got in my boot in my car.

00:45:44:07 – 00:46:11:10
I can I chop these away. And he's like, no one of them is like, fuck off, why I am you got. I did find out that. Yeah, I know I did find out whether she from. But, I ended up actually buying a navy, peacoat and to this day, man, to this day, seeing a a fitted pekoe or double breasted trench coat for me is like.

00:46:11:10 – 00:46:34:08
It's just that. Yeah. Oh yes. But yeah, that's, that's top tier. That's a man. That's when you see men like good handsome man that I would turn for for sure is that I'm not a big I'm not a massive fan of the it. All right. I wouldn't buy one. Well I've seen you in quite a few, picos, like single breasted.

00:46:34:10 – 00:46:59:16
I have worn them in the past. Got, What? When you say peacoat, we're talking about the six buttons, right? Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. Yeah yeah I, I've got I'm more of a trench coat. I eat. My favorite fiber item that I own now is a Abercrombie and Fitch, trench coat from the 80s. And it's got, it's got curved shoulders.

00:46:59:18 – 00:47:23:22
Right. Wearing. No, but yeah, but it's a beautiful jacket. Yeah. I could easily go get obsessed buying buying those as well things as well because I have about 5 or 7 and like that that they're mainly made for men. They're a bit taller. I would buy a smaller version and I'd have to go and get them. I'd have to go to like a seamstress to sort it out.

00:47:23:24 – 00:47:42:01
Yeah, a bit I, I don't, I like it's a bit, it's a lot of effort to buy a coat and then get it tailored to you and shit like that. I would, I was anyway I would much more into trench coats and peacoat. So I would say I don't buy life, I just. Yeah, delightful. You don't. You can never go wrong with a Barbour ever, even to this day.

00:47:42:07 – 00:48:08:15
Just a not a decent fitted Barbour. Yeah, 100%. You still looks great. They still work classy today. Yeah. Barbour is a top tier top tier brand as well. Yeah. It's kind of affordable as well. Barbour where I was whereas you know like Burberry isn't Burberry I think is my favorite clothing brand. I could never afford it, but yeah, I vote burpees, no battery.

00:48:08:17 – 00:48:32:09
I've never owned I've never owned any but I in terms of what it looks like in the style they Burberry make, they are the best clothes manufacturer in the world, in my opinion. Yeah, yeah. And I would, I'm not selling you to of that lifestyle as well. It is, it is top, top tier weight, mate. Sonny Hermanson looked incredible all the time.

00:48:32:10 – 00:48:53:18
Yes, yes. He looks it just looks amazing. Like everything he wore I was like, that is incredible. That really shaggy wooly Burberry jumper he would wear when he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's immaculate. And then you look at it and I wonder how much is it. It's like four grand. You're like, for fuck's sake. Like, I like clothes.

00:48:53:18 – 00:49:14:21
As I said, they're more than just what you put on your body. You make a statement. There's an impact to them. But grand for a jumper is not something I can do. Even as a millionaire. No, no, not when you were saying about the, that statement. So I'll just go back to when I was kind of fighting myself in the music scene.

00:49:14:23 – 00:49:39:03
Enemy, you know, 2000s knocking them out of you peak Ducati that I mentioned, the carbon military kite. Yeah. And I also used to wear, I went for a stage wearing, thin, braces while I was wearing a polo shirt because it used to as well, I remember, yeah. And then, you, brother Ryan, every time I tame it, you just.

00:49:39:03 – 00:50:06:06
You stopping them? I can't keep wearing these anymore because I was just going to keep picking them. Yeah, I also had a Union Jack neckerchief, but I would fold it, so it was, like, folded out of my pocket. I don't know what was going on there. I think I remember that as well. Yeah. So there was, and then obviously the haircut, you know, I can't get away from not fashion that comes into it.

00:50:06:06 – 00:50:29:12
It's not. So I. You ruined everything. Yeah, but. Well, it ruined everything. You had a do you think so? Yeah. For, you know, this, you know, made me feel sick. Not not when it first came on the scene. Not when it first came on the scene. It was fucking I like I, I actually felt like. So that's one of the things where, you know Oasis.

00:50:29:14 – 00:50:56:14
Right? Perry? Brogues, the hair. Like, I don't want to forget this when I remember if I say to Avalon, well, what comes to mind? There's a there's a couple of things I'm trying to say. Right. So there is a, salon, as they say, barbers. But it was a hair salon, weren't it? Yeah. Where Flav and I used to live in Crouch End, and I would go there.

00:50:56:19 – 00:51:18:04
Really, really lovely lady that, run it. So one of my first memories of there, I would literally go in on have five pictures of Noel Gallagher's Your Hair. Ricky would join. I should go in there and go. Can you just do this? Can you. Can I have this, please? I need a picture of. Oh, golly. Yeah.

00:51:18:06 – 00:51:42:00
And they would. You can't, you can't, you can't what? They are best. Yeah. So, so I went there for years and she would, she do my hair. But they had this, like, little trainee geezer. Do you remember? Yeah. So it is so weird. And every time, obviously, they would wash my hair and, like, I would, he'd be washing my hand.

00:51:42:05 – 00:52:06:08
It's really strange. But then it would be hard to describe. He was like, yeah, straight for a start, because he had a wife of a baby. Yeah, but he was working in a, he was, he was quite a big bloke. I was going to say he reminded me of a, a chubby Oliver Skipp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've like two bogeys I out, it's nice.

00:52:06:08 – 00:52:26:19
Yeah, man. I look at them, it's like they just give it a play. Come on. Yeah. Oh man. It's so funny. And you going in. You know you're open for the woman and they need to eat turn up and you know. Yeah. For fuck's sake. Get off. Yeah, yeah. But, still open. I've blown up the shit. Is it really?

00:52:26:24 – 00:52:52:12
Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if that lady still runs it. So obviously me getting older. You getting older? We were just talking about clothes now. Now, I don't know when the last time I will I polo shirt because I'm at that stage now where I've got like ten Fred Perry's ten, fucking Hugo Boss whatever. Polo shirts are all there.

00:52:52:14 – 00:53:15:13
I mean, that in between. Not I ain't throwing this out because they're expensive, but I'm a little bit too far. I can't get in them. I'm one day. That's one day you and I, we're going to be that, you know that partnership again. But I can never get down to that weight where I can get back into a part that what I throw them.

00:53:15:15 – 00:53:42:00
Yeah. Now I'm in that I mean that I'm in that period of, how do I dress now? I think the in the kid is still in me, but the vast majority of the clothes that I wear now is the comfort. And even when I go out, I will mainly wear now I'll wear something like this. Just a simple Lacoste crewneck.

00:53:42:00 – 00:54:11:20
What I'm wearing now, or, a simple Fred Perry or. Yeah, just anything like that. Really. And but like Barbour jumpers, black jeans are what I call it. The only time I wear shoes is to a wedding or a funeral. That's it. I've worn a pair of shoes for fucking God knows how long. Yeah. Oh, those days are gone.

00:54:11:22 – 00:54:35:21
Well, so what do you as converse now? Do you say? Well aware? So I only ever wear black trainers. Why only? Only black. White I don't know, I don't know if you bought the same pair three times, I might, it's probably five times. Maybe six times this exact same trip. Triple black Adidas trainers. Is it? Is it?

00:54:35:21 – 00:54:54:22
I've had for maybe ten years. Is it that you just don't can't be bothered to think or you just don't know what to do a bit? So there's I did can't be bothered to think number one. And number two I'm just not that into trainers. Right. If it was a jumper or polo shirt or something like that.

00:54:54:24 – 00:55:15:13
But I'm not into fucking colorways. And how it looks underneath like it's got a fuckload of trainers. They're everywhere. I'm tripping over the house like all around the house because of a fucking trainers littered everywhere like a teenager. Come back the other day, she's like, oh, I bought these new trainers and I just like it's like cream and brown.

00:55:15:14 – 00:55:40:20
It's like it's like a coffee, kind of like colored, like gazelle. And you've already got ten gazelles like that. You're playing a point you want to. They match with different things. Yeah, I know that she got upset with me because I was, I, I think me and so similar are you are very exactly the same. Olga got annoyed at me because I kept buying the trainers not annoyed, but she's like, well, you've already got like nine pairs of trainers.

00:55:40:20 – 00:56:05:11
Why are you. Yeah, but he's different. I just shaped like trainers and they're different just because they are trainers and they're different things like, why do you have ten jumpers? Like it's not, I ask you towards trainers or shoes is like, if they have one pair that fits and is durable, then they're fine. What do you think of, Stone Island and CPI?

00:56:05:13 – 00:56:33:23
So. Right, okay. My fashion. What I'd say now is more towards, middle aged casualwear. I'm that's what I like. Stone Island. Fuck, no. I wouldn't be like this is only me. I wouldn't be caught dead in a stone island. Wow. Because Stone Island used to mean something back in the day. If somebody. If someone at the football had a stone island.

00:56:34:00 – 00:56:53:13
Yeah, that kick your fucking head in, right? You look at them the wrong way. They've got a scar down that kind on their face. Whatever, man. You know, if you were, if you were Stone Island, they they meant business. And you respected it and you respected Stone Island. Now any fucking Tom, Dick or Harry, where's the Stone island?

00:56:53:13 – 00:57:18:21
I'm saying, like mentalist TikTokers. And they've got stone island jumpers and sand. I'm like me like, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. Drop me out. This is the knife. Thank you. So I really like them. I think they look great. But you're right. It's been absolutely fucked by. It's just oversaturated. Is everywhere. Yeah. However, there was a there was a certain level was stolen and the isn't accessible to most people because of the price.

00:57:18:23 – 00:57:40:06
Yeah a jumper. Most people go to flannels and maybe afford a jumper which is like 200, 300, £400 if they're it their birthday money or whatever it might be. Yeah. Did you get another level which isn't in flannels, which exists in Stone Island, which is not general, stuff you can see it's the kind of stuff that Pep Guardiola wears.

00:57:40:08 – 00:58:01:14
That stuff. Yeah. Class is so well-made. It's beautiful, but too many knob. It's way stone island. So I would, I wouldn't even dream of if I agree with you, I understand it. And it's a shame because you go in there, you look in there sometimes. Not like I can afford a 2,000 pounds jacket anyway. But you're like, this is so unique.

00:58:01:14 – 00:58:26:14
It looks so different. There's nothing else quite like this particular jacket. And then you've got a TikTok of wearing trousers, matching trousers, a stunning island top. And I stole my jacket. Yeah. And the get the badging thing is just the brand. I mean, it hasn't for them. They made fortunes but yeah. Yeah there's no rarity to it. There's no it's just everywhere.

00:58:26:14 – 00:58:47:09
No. Yeah. What about CP? I just realized if you got a guy like me, what time is it? Ten. We can do it every day. Yeah. C okay. Right. So cp cb company is a little bit better, but I've been going down the same path a little bit. But because it's so subtle, it's just a little brown disc on the arm, it's less.

00:58:47:09 – 00:59:12:09
Yeah. It's less of a problem. I'm purely a CP company. Like that's where you're holding up your arm to the camera to get it. Yeah, it's just a cock. Yeah. Like I yeah for sure. I remember back in the day, the streets and Mike Skinner reference in CP company in one of his songs. And from then I'm like, yeah, SAP company.

00:59:12:09 – 00:59:34:00
That's the one for me. Bury the streets as well. CP company yeah. Aqua school. Yeah. Oh shit. Like that. Lacoste all brands like that. I, that's that's where I'm at right now. I'm in the same boat, though, because I've got a couple bits of CP company, but it's just from flannels, so it's not this is mass produced shit basically.

00:59:34:02 – 00:59:57:24
Right. And the goggles going over the eyes and stuff like that, I wouldn't that's not necessary. But if you've got any goggles. No no no no no no, Your face. Did you like that? It's two. It's two of you. It's too much, in my opinion. Yes, that is too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I think I kind of feel I feel more comfortable in that than I do anything else.

00:59:57:24 – 01:00:25:19
May I fucking. When I went to Lee's wedding, I had no white CP company over shirt. Oh. Yeah. It was in a bag with two bottles of red wine, and I dropped the bag. You dropped the bag? I dropped my jacket because it was warm on that day, but it'd been raining. I'd been wearing it. I'd left it in the bag, and I dropped the bag and two bottles of red wine covered it.

01:00:25:21 – 01:00:45:18
What was it? Was it salvageable? No, it wasn't salvageable. It would gone red the whole fucking try. No, just put it in the bin. I'd need it. I just want it to get it away from me and never think about it again. I was so angry. I was so angry. I wasn't speaking or fuming. I mean, the missus were walking down these beautiful cobbled streets in Italy.

01:00:45:20 – 01:01:03:04
Right. And and there's. Let's just stop for a glass of wine. Then we stopped the glass and I looked around me, and I was I I'm wasting my time being angry about. This is just a jacket. This is beautiful. And so we had a couple of crisp glasses of, white wine, which is lovely. See there? See that again?

01:01:03:06 – 01:01:27:15
Like, I, like I said at the top of the show, one of my favorite things is just being with my mates and just having a beer. A wine just where you guys are together. You can't be here. That's why I could never go T toto never go t toto right? We are going to jump onto something tiny, you know, before we do that, the topic for next week, right?

01:01:27:18 – 01:01:59:12
We have done over 100 different topics on lots. Anonymous. But we've never done this one yet, and I'm surprised we're going to do our favorite films from childhood Feel-Good films to Cinematic masterpieces, favorite actors, location setting, cinematography, portrayal of a certain character. We want to see your top five favorite films send in to lads unknown port at gmail.com.

01:01:59:16 – 01:02:24:00
Also, actually what I'm talking about this. There is a gentleman who sent in an email about, he does film reviews and he got an invite to a documentary that was shown in London. Absolutely amazing. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Obviously that this, this topic is going to be for you as well. My it's going to be a good one.

01:02:24:00 – 01:02:50:07
So actually, I know you'll be listening. So send in your list. I want to see everybody's list. And it's going to be a great episode next week. So send them in. But mine has this song and. After all is said and done. You never walk. You're never, you're a winner. And, and then and then and then and then my voice go.

01:02:50:08 – 01:03:11:13
I've been seeing those adverts. I don't know what it means. I don't know what you mean. It's 40 years since it come out, so. Yes. Oh, mate. So basically the official Transformers, Instagram account or the all their socials account. Three days ago, they posted a clip of the movie and then said 72 hours the next day, 48 hours, and then 24 hours.

01:03:11:13 – 01:03:29:04
So they remastered it. I don't know what I don't know. I don't know if they show it in the cinema and they say, like, we're going to show it in the cinema globally for three days, every single day. I will go and I'll watch that film every day I'm going, even if I have to go, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember you said we went.

01:03:29:05 – 01:03:44:04
You weren't allowed to go and you say, what would you say? Because I said I was going to go on my own to watch Transformers The Movie because I thought the movie was going to be out, but they just had like the first six episodes or something. But then I said, you guys go on your own, and you said, you can't.

01:03:44:04 – 01:04:06:17
You said to me, I go together. That's not all right. Good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will do that 100%. You got the moves. You know, the streets. You break the rules, you take the heat, you're nobody's fool. Oh. Oh, hey, how good is that? You're at your best when the going gets rough. You've been put to your test.

01:04:06:21 – 01:04:40:21
But it's never and never. You got to take the test and establish what a legend is. Right. I said good. Well, you did. You okay, you're going to hear something. Only you know. Now. Wow. Something, you know. Hi. My name's Tom. Some time between 2000 and 8 2010, a friend of mine was the resident DJ and promoter of a spot in Los Angeles.

01:04:40:23 – 01:05:02:17
Most people showed up around midnight, but to entice people to arrive early, they did free drinks between 10 and 11. Being the degenerate that I am, I was there at ten. The room was empty, but with the liquid courage I told myself, let's dance, let's dance. Gang of four, Gang of four comes on and I get a bit loose.

01:05:02:19 – 01:05:27:19
Seems like the next song, but it wasn't, in retrospect, was Talking Heads. This Must Be the Place. That is a banging tune, by the way. Was a guy I can't, I can't, I can't sing it, I can't sing, obviously makes it makes its way I myself swaying and singing with a random guy in a leather jacket with an accent.

01:05:27:21 – 01:05:44:04
Not sure what we chatted about, but it was very normal. Sweaty. I go to the table to have a drink and recover so I can keep the night going. Is it just him? Yeah. You know what? This this is this was at the end of the questions of what I would I get to it. Right. I want to discuss.

01:05:44:05 – 01:06:09:08
Okay, okay. The tables are labeled but I don't care much. And sit down again. This place is fairly empty. So who I'm hurting by sitting at an empty table. After five minutes at this table by myself, I'm asked to move by a man saying, This is Phoenix's table. I said, okay, I'll get up. Feeling a bit embarrassed to get kicked out of an empty table.

01:06:09:14 – 01:06:39:16
My mannerisms change and I move on. I got as far as the next table when the man with the leather jacket said, you can come sit with us. As I looked at the label on their table, it read Radiohead. I said, what man with the leather jacket says, hi, I'm Tom, I'm Tom, I'm Tom York. Oh my lord, no, I it's because this was a very organic meeting and I just wanted to have it.

01:06:39:18 – 01:07:04:18
And that is something only I know. I got bumps when he said, yeah, I know, do you know what I was doing last night? I was just on the side before bed. I was just watching clips of Radiohead or I was doing for hours, but not for about 45 minutes. Man, I love that. Can you imagine that?

01:07:04:20 – 01:07:29:06
I do when I that is fucking well, cool. And the thing is as well, like no photos because it is organic. Like in the I would try as I might and be like, I just want to be this in this moment of Noel Gallagher, whatever. But I need a fight. I, I want my friends. I, I probably wouldn't know.

01:07:29:08 – 01:07:47:22
Well, if. Tom, you even get the fight, I, I'm not want them. I don't I never quite I know that people sometimes ask for photos of us. Like when you're with a. Yeah, I never really I don't get it. Like what? What? I know we talked about this before, but who what are you doing with it after?

01:07:47:22 – 01:08:13:21
Where's it going? Who? You show it is is just I bumped into this person. Look at this is photo. Maybe it's that. Yeah, but what we don't realize, and I was listening to, a podcast with James Smith on it. The guy, and he was saying about, when people listen to podcasts and about it was just talking about, like notoriety and fame and money and stuff.

01:08:13:23 – 01:08:40:09
But he was saying that when people ask you for a photo and stuff like that, it's you think it's weird and someone's just asking for a photo of you. But really, he's in a WhatsApp group with his brother and they are Jim heads, or they are entrepreneurs or they are, and they talk about him all the time. It's like, May we talk about this guy all the time?

01:08:40:09 – 01:09:05:10
And I've just met him this is quality. And then it's their own little community. Yeah. You just have, you know, a part of that story that goes in to their community of why this is so that's a great point. And so funny. People might talk to someone or something. Exactly. There are groups that listen to the fighting cock and they'll be like, what they said about, you know, John said that Ricky said this and all that, and then you bump into Ricky.

01:09:05:13 – 01:09:28:11
Yeah. It's not because he's famous. It's because we talk about these guys all the time. And I just bumped into him. And Ricky was a really lovely, lovely guy. Yeah, but weird. But. Hey, hey, hey, so, so. Right. That's it for this week. The topic for next week is Favorite Films. Send in your favorite films to lots.

01:09:28:11 – 01:09:43:04
Anon. Pot at gmail.com. Patrons. You're going to get this right now Friday. Everybody else you know me. You'll get it on Monday. Have a great weekend. Love you. All right. Nice one. I by.