#61 | What was Elon Musk’s salute really about?

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Your wife messaged me last night, right? What would she fucking say? What's she talking about? Have you ever heard of. Yeah. Let me just get the name right. Because I hadn't heard of it when she was messaging me as I was CMC. Have you ever heard of Tate McRae? Right. Yeah, I was it was starting to make sense.

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Yeah. It does. That does make sense. Yeah. Like, Emily and her mates want to go to a Tate McRae gig. Paid around the night. It's in May or something like that. March or my, I can't remember. I'm not done with that. Can't you speak to some of your mates? Like I'm connected with people at the O2 or something like that.

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Like I've got fucking mates work. But do you not think I would have gone and got, like, if I was connected, got Oasis tickets from someone or fucking the Coldplay tickets? I missed out on that. I was willing to pay like fucking 300 pounds 400 pound for four tickets. I mean, she's me. How much you love Coldplay is fine.

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It's funny to me. What? Don't you think it's outrageous that this. I'm presuming this. She's aimed at young girls. This type McRae woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like girls your age. Yeah. Your daughter's age. Yeah.

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I was she charged hundred quid a ticket in. I don't know, I know, maybe I, maybe it's her. Whatever it is, it's fucking outrageous. I said I'll probably be able to figure something out if you take Ricky. That's the Salvador. Yeah, I know how it is. So funny. If you have to go all the way to the O2 to watch Tate McRae concert.

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That would be funny. I do, I do a vlog is, Do you know any other songs? No, no, they played me one and I was like, I recognize this, but that's about it. Yeah. Listen, anybody who's listen to who works at the O2, you want to hook up Ricky's family, use some Tate McRae tickets. Because it's so expensive.

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Because you can't. It's not. It's not just the kid. Go in on itself. You go work, kid. Andrew quit. I have a great time. That ain't going to work, is it? Because it's in London? Rights, apparently. To go. I'm not £200. Parent doesn't want to go, by the way. Apparently give a shit about Tate McRae. But parent has to go because you can't send the young go to London for anything, but certainly not for a gig at the O2.

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But then you got a sister as well, which can't leave her out. So she's got to go as well as £300. Right. And, you know, the older one doesn't really, you know, that was just, it's not it's not about two sisters kinds of Tate McRae. It's about it's about the one that loves Tate McRae and a make going.

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That's four of them. That's £400. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Anyone listen to works Tate McRae or works for O2? So I'm out. So. Yeah. Please, please. I'm sick and tired of. Can't not take what I can. I think you've been banging on about it. They're like, like my missus just keeps dropping hints like, oh, I really wonder how we could get this hate McRae ticket and then, like, looking at me instead, I, like, I can conjure something out I'd like.

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I've got no idea. Like how I, I've never there's never been, a kind of an experience or anything in the history of me where I have come out of it, where I've got O2 tickets from a mate, you know, I mean, off from being connected with someone or tickets to Wembley or tickets to fucking anywhere. Did you explain to your wife that you've taken both of them?

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Tottenham recently? I've been to Tottenham. I've been to. Yeah, yeah. And was it, must have been last May. Now, I bought three tickets for them to go and see Olivia Rodrigo at the O2. I went along for the day. We had a lovely day in London. We all went to the O2. I went to the Webber.

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Spencer sunk about fucking. I Guinness's on my own. Just stand. I find it great one today. She's smashed. But on the game. Yeah, yeah. So you need a bit of pace okay. So the point that's like one the people watching, you know like you when you. When I was younger, I like to see old men in pubs just sitting there on their own, nursing their beer.

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Just like thinking, what are they doing? Like they're on their own. They don't talking to anyone. They don't do it anything. And then it was that realization while I was there on my own with my McGuinness, looking around the people watching, eavesdropping on on conversations, I don't care. Yeah. My brother, my little brother's got a great song about the pub.

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It's called Archetypal Boozer. It's on one of his EP's. Go and listen to find it on. Let's search for Alexander Campbell. And there's a, there's a track called Archetypal Boozer, and it's probably you might know that I've heard that one night at the fair bit of music up there, but it's one of the sort of EP's it relates to kind of just, you know, even a guitar.

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I think he's working another one night. He's always thinking about his voice crafting, always crafting, always crafting.

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The night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes high as quite midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

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Hello and welcome to Lands Anonymous is episode 59. No it's not, it's fucking. Oh fuck. It was. It was 61 I think is 68. Yeah it's a little bit. Yeah. In the grand scheme of things. Yeah. Solitary. Fuck yeah. I'm Ricky's for love. You know the fucking. So you know do you give a fuck. You give a fuck.

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Yeah. I don't OCD about it. Yeah. No, I just thought, like, if anyone comes across the pond, they don't know who we are or what it's about. It's a nice little fucking notable intro. Oh, no, that's not what you it. That's what you want them to say? Sorry. Yes. Somehow new to this podcast we've been doing for year.

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Stay I don't didn't mean that. I don't know, he's. Maybe it's just because on social media, I've been told to get fucked so much this week for some reason. Yeah, I think maybe that's it. Maybe that's why I'm so angry. What is it with strangers in the internet telling me to get fucked all the time, but just calm, are you?

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I used to be. I used to be like, this is all right. This is fine, I get it. People have opinions about me now. I'm like, what the fuck have I done for them? Why it like coming out of the police? Get me. I don't know who you is. It is a daily thing.

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I say it have one spicy comment a day, something somewhere. Yeah, that'd be something. Someone. If I go looking for it, I'd find. I'd definitely find a few things. You got to bear in mind the amount of podcasts I do like this. Not lads. Anonymous. Yeah. This is a safe space. Generally it's all the other podcasts of about sport, and for some reason, having an opinion that differs from somebody else is in sport means it's carte blanche to unleash whatever insult you want to on on someone.

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Really? Yeah, it's it is insane. I mean, I don't always think about people like, like our man Bevo and bum bum bloop Bennett this week to me, I think. So. Get that. Did he, did he actually. Oh. So yeah, I hope so. I mean, like, why not? Why would you want to live in a world where Bevo didn't bum Luke Bennett or living about the.

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Did I wanna live? Well, where he did. He's in Japan. Yeah he is. Well he's Grafton, he's out there. He's got everyone's Grafton. You can't Kenny knock someone who grass gets up, you know, thinks about how am I going to shock the world today. Yeah. I'm gonna find a ginger bloke from Wolverhampton and bam. Yeah. I mean, that is pretty shocking.

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And if that did happen, I would watch that for sure I watch it, yeah, yeah yeah I like it. He's a, he's like dropped a 42nd video of him in Bonnie Blue. How many times have you watched it? I just watched it the once. What was it went through your thought process. So some people that don't know that there won't be many I don't know, bro, is you know, Bebo is such a you'll figure out what you use within about two TikToks and and you know what Bonnie Blue is because we talked about it on this before, but Bonnie Blue is a, I wouldn't call her a porn star.

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She's like an adult content creator on. Oh, yeah. I only recently checked The Thousand Men and Beaver and, and but they put the they put it up on Pornhub a clear. Yeah. So hang on a second. I so this is their thought process. It too. Rick sorry the the sorry that that's bad in it. That's that's fucking really bad.

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That is me I keep kids of racism. So Jim's another bloke I do a podcast with. I am sitting in this exact environment. It just spread out with you. I'm sorry. And set up. This is a lot of times early on in a relationship where I've called my missus my ex-girlfriend's name. That's happened, you know, the thought process in that, in that it's there's a section of the mind where the person you love most lives.

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Yeah, right. But as with all memories, it gets etched in. Yeah. And what's happening there is you move away from the person you used to love to the person you really love. Now, you know, it gets there. They're taking that space up, but it happens gradually. So there is this sort of molding or there's a shift where what is normal in your brain and the brain patterns that existed for many years before.

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It takes time for them to be adapt to what is new. And so there is a there is a crossover, especially when there is exactly the exact same number of syllables in the name, and they sound like the same name as well. Right? You know the name. So yeah. Yeah, I've just said it at my head. Yeah, yeah.

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So you can understand that that way that might happen. Sure. It doesn't matter that all of that makes sense. It doesn't matter. Have you ever have you ever called your wife mum? But I haven't if you had. No I mean you have. Yeah. I mean yeah. Is it because the girls. I don't know, I think it was just like, you know, like, you just need to get their attention quickly.

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Don't think. And it's just popped out. I've called my I've called my teachers mum before that. So that happens. Really? Really. I was going to ask you about our. Did you were in class? Did you ever call her mum. That makes sense. Right? Yeah, it makes sense because she's an authority figure. Your mum's and authority figure. Your brain space is in a similar.

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So you need help from her. What do you need from your mum? Why do you need your mum's attention? And your kid? Did you need a help or you need affection? Yeah. So it's the same thing in the same way that that environment is the same. This podcast thing with you is similar to the podcast I do.

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It's using the same software. So you got to get over it or I didn't mean it. But what I'm saying is that the Bruce and Bonnie lived side to make a porno together. But what is the the method on Pornhub, I guess is play a little bit and then they go and sign up to see the whole thing, which didn't really make sense because I'm like, I'm not signing up for anything.

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I'll just find another video. Yeah, but they're like, this is so good, you got to sign up. How many people are looking at that clip and going, I've got, I see Bonnie Blue Beaver, all of it. Oh, let's see every minute of it. Yeah. No, I can't imagine that, there would be a lot. And I think Beaver, he's so like, for, like, five stages.

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I'm sure you would know who Beaver is. And if you haven't, he's just. He's got, really popular on Tik Tok because he filmed himself eating his his meals in a day breakfast, you know, but then he got bored of doing that. So you want to expand? It's obvious. Yeah, exactly. And I think the view started dropping of him eating food.

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Everyone got bored and it's like, what else you got? At least thought chasing after those numbers and the money again. So he's trying to claw onto anything he can. He took to the streets of Manchester and was doing vox pops for a bit. They didn't go down well with the problem with him, Rick, is that he started eating potatoes, right, and nearly choking on them.

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That was a thing. And even I watched it eat pop up and I'd watch you make and potato and not. Okay, that was quite funny. And the fact that he nearly chokes on it as well. That's good. Right? Yeah. If I see me in a bit of broccoli doing the same, I'll probably stop for a bit. Give him that watch and move on.

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It's, you know, there's a quid pro quo to this relationship. You'll give me a little bit of content that passes that. That'll be quicker for me. And I'm giving you a view that you can monetize. Everyone's happy, except that he turned into a maniac. Then he looks at the views, and then he turned. He became this sort of like he's his confidence was that of a Premier League footballer.

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Correct. Because he was successful. But then obviously the internet doesn't like you when you get too cocky. No. And I think like he was he was posing the questions of one of the ones where he was like at the start of his big downfall of asking people, is TikTok a real job? It was off that to random people on the street, and when they would say no, it's not, he would reply, well, I'm making 40 grand a month from it.

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Yeah, that was his thing. So he's gone from that to being an ass, right? Yeah. No one's going to like that because no one's sitting there all day watching Tik Tok as 40 grand a month. They don't have much going on, you'd imagine. No. So if you're watching Beaver all day and you're that obsessed with him, you're not going to get much from him gloating.

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I've just had a great idea. Okay. Then so this Beaver Bonnie Blue video, I haven't seen it. God. Have you? No, no. And I'm wondering if I should watch it live. I the people at home would be able to hear the sounds. You wouldn't be able to put the, There is one part of it that I don't think.

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Well, what is what is what is what was, So it would be the sound of a penis in, like, body blue, being deep throated, you know that? Yeah. That's fine. What you think? What do you think the audience would be like? Well, we've given pre warning to skip the next minute if you don't want to hear it.

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Right. Okay. Yeah. So you saw. So now you're taking away the surprise I was looking for to be surprise with what you think. You know that if the women like that listen or people listen to it with their partners in their car and stuff like that, and then all of a sudden they hit up. But they all know what Deep Throat it sounds like everybody does.

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Right. Okay. Can I ask you a question? If you were just listening to this podcast in the car, wherever you are, and I've just we've done all this, would you not want to hear it? But yeah, you would do it. Yeah. 80%, 90% of the audience want me to play this video and they want to hear this audio.

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So if you're did you say it's 37, 30 76I think so something like that. Idea. I haven't found it. I've just got load of Bonnie Blue, which is shame. It's not. I'm pulling up there. Yeah, it's I'm pulling up. It is important know. You know, I didn't know we were going to be talking about this.

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You did. You when? When you said. I've watched it the other day. You didn't send the link then. All right, let me try and find it. Let me try and find it. And then you go, well, okay. Is there any last week, you know, last week, we posed a quite I think what you posed a question to the lady listeners of this podcast on how they liked the partners to be kept downstairs.

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So we were saying about whether, do you like Harry Reid? Yeah, yeah, I remember you like skinheads. Do you like, you know, to be trimmed up? Do you even care? And we've had an email from one of our female listeners and it says, okay, so the deal is women like hairy guys because it's manly, but we don't want hair in our mouths.

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So trimming is only required if you want some action down there. All the hair doesn't have to be gone, just trimmed to the point where it's not constantly coming off. Makes sense. Happy to educate. So yeah, I can't stop it. That's what I like a lot. Yeah. I mean, maybe that's, because I, I think I mentioned that I would sometimes watch you say sometimes all the time, would you use a razor for my.

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Not very carefully to, you know, try and get rid of as much, fuzz down there as possible. I'd like it to be a very well kept. Like you could eat your dinner off it. That that's how clean what you do. You like that way? Yeah I do, yeah yeah yeah, yeah for sure. Hang up. It's appetizing. Now I feel like a shower at my machine is, like, out of their periphery.

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Catches it. I want it to be like. So I actually. So I might have gone that. But it's like that fucking, Yeah. Literally 0.01. But just you keep just, just just in case, just in case, just in case there is an upturn and. Oh no, but, yeah. Because it would never happen if it was, a massive push down there.

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You know, we've also got another email in now, this one was from a it's a reply to the dilemma they sent in and we spoke about it. So this was remind me the dilemma. This was on episode 46. Language has labeling gone too far. That was the title. And the dilemma was, a gentleman who was on his travels in Vietnam, had met a Dutch girl whilst traveling and had fallen head over heels in love with her.

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That's right. And he didn't know whether to stay faithful to her because they were splitting up whilst they were going traveling or to carry on and just enjoying the traveling lifestyle. But he did mention two days later, after his Dutch romance had had left to go on her way, that he got that he got pissed up and he ended up talking to another girl accidentally.

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That's right. And he felt dreadful about it. Yeah, yeah. So. And that was his dilemma. Now he's listen to the episode now because he's been traveling and caught up. I've fallen behind on episodes and just heard my dilemma was read out, and someone else shared their advice in the quickie with Riki language episode, which I very much appreciated.

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Given to to give an update. Since I sent that email, I told the Dutch girl I wanted to see her one more time before she flew home. So I met up again in Hanoi. We went on a date and had a brilliant night. It was a perfect goodbye. It was hard, but like the gentleman advised, I had to continue my travels.

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I carried on down to Vietnam, through Cambodia and into Thailand. I had the absolute best time, and I would urge anyone who gets the time to check out the southeast of Asia. So beautiful and cheap and you can live like a king. I'm now in Perth, Australia working for a few months before I travel around Australia. It's incredible.

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Still in touch with a Dutch girl. So when I get home we may see each other again. Lots of love. I love catching up on these episodes. Gutted I fell behind love. Loving the new shorter episodes too. So they go. He's, I think I think he's just he'll probably just leave that traveling lifestyle. And I think everyone knows when it's when you go traveling, you meet a lot of people.

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You'd get up to a lot of things, you experience a lot, and when he gets home, he's probably not going to be out of that. Dutch. Go easy. Probably not nice when he was talking then just a, you know, a slight precaution of pulling up music and stuff in the background. You just hit and didn't didn't do. I apologize for that?

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I can't find it. And I, I don't want to look at Bonnie Blue anymore, so. Right. Does that mean that's good? I mean, I'm good. People wanted to hear that. Well, we could, I can I can find it after and do it. Yeah. The moment is gone, I think. Right. Okay, fine. Yeah.

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That'd be hugely appreciated. And it does the show. No end of good. So that'd be, lovely if you could do that. Did you see in the news? I don't suppose you did or not. Well, Elon Musk doing a Nazi salute. Yeah. I mean, this is another thing in terms about, like, people like I some I've had people who, you know, look how they align themselves politically.

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He's really up to them. I don't mind, I don't understand, I don't mind, I can have a point with someone who votes reform, probably like I'd be able to do that. I'd be able to have a drink with him. And we needn't talk about politics, right? I've got members of my family that definitely, probably would vote reform. Right.

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But they're my family. Yeah. So I'm not. Firstly, you're not gonna have anybody tell me who I should on. Shouldn't hang out with big based on their political beliefs. Absolutely not. It's up to me. It's none of your business. Right? But also.

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It's it's it's quite normal to look at that and assume that it's a Nazi salute. And if I say that like, again, this is like a many we've reached out and I really know it clearly wasn't a Nazi salute because the anti-defamation lobby or whatever it is, somebody called the ADL in America said that it wasn't a Nazi salute.

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And you're like, I don't give a shit what it says. Look, it it looks exactly like that. And he leant into it as well. Yeah. It looks to me exactly like a Nazi salute. If he didn't want loads of people to think it was announced, he salute and don't do one. There's millions of someone said. Someone said it's.

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Are you saying it's from my heart? So when Hitler patted his chest and put his arm off and yeah, was that from Hitler's heart? It was the same movement, I don't understand. It's so weird. And like, I get it, you don't have to defend him. I don't care if you're Trump. I don't care if you like. Elon Musk is up to you.

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I'm not going to think anything less of you. It's up to you. But you can't stop me from thinking that wasn't a Nazi salute. It fucking was. Yeah. Like, to go back to your point about, like political allegiances and stuff like that and having friends that or family members that are different to your stuff, like I've got on my 81.

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Me listen to this. But we, I wouldn't say we fell out, but he is of the reform, type of politics, and I am not basically, we'll just leave it there. And he sent me a tweet about Elon Musk saying Free Tommy Robinson and all of that stuff. And he was like, wow, Rick, isn't this great?

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Like someone with the balls to go out there and someone who is so influential as a mosque is getting behind and attacking Keir Starmer and attacking the UK government about freeing Tommy Robinson. This is amazing, isn't it? And I was like, you know how I feel about Tommy Robinson. Yes. And Elon Musk. And like, he does it all the time.

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And I feel like he does it because he knows that I'm the only one that will debate him. And he likes debate, and he likes that confrontation and that. And he hasn't really got anyone to do that with you. So he picks his only personal color that he knows to do. But, Exactly. And I, I just snapped and I said, look, mate, don't ever, ever send me shit like this again.

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Like anything about Elon Musk, anything about Tommy, anything about what Katie Hopkins says. All of that stuff. I literally don't care, right? I don't want it. I don't want to read about it. But also I don't want to waste my energy because it makes feel for the left side, because I don't really care if I'm honest. Yeah, but because these are my beliefs and that's fine, and I'll stick with those.

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But I don't want to be wasting 15 minutes of my day of saying why I believe this way. Just leave me to it. It makes you feel negative. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I it makes you feel bad when he sends you that stuff. You don't want Katie Hopkins talking about gunboats or whatever she might be talking. Yeah. Nothing good coming from that.

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You don't feel good about it? No. If you want to send me some content, send me a picture of a baby laughing. I'll watch that and get back to you. I don't want to know that. I don't want to see it, but yeah, I and there was a time in the past, like there was a time in the past where I would have cared a lot.

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Politically active, I would say making. Yeah, I thought my opinion meant a lot. Yeah. And so I no doubt had some something that I said previously was made a way to me, this week and it was from a long time ago. And I looked at it and while it was and it's not like racist, it's not one of my old racist tweets, but it was politically motivated and a lot of people would have a problem with what I said, and a lot of people wouldn't have a problem with what I said.

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But the point I'm the thing I said then I would never say now, because I have. As I've grown older, I realize I don't know my ass from my elbow and so forth. So and so. I should stay out of that conversation because it isn't about me. I don't understand it. Therefore I should remain quiet. Yeah. There are other people out there politically that would say, no, you must say something.

00:27:50:16 – 00:28:16:03
You must say something because everybody said something that there is no movement, there's no we don't move in a positive direction. I think people think that because because something mad is happening in the world that you must have an opinion on it. Less be more people that have less an opinion, more people should just close their mouths and just and like it's like Brexit.

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I didn't vote in Brexit because, you know. No, because. And there were two reasons why I didn't vote. It wasn't like I didn't vote because I couldn't be bothered. I didn't vote for two reasons. One, everybody was left wing in my knowledge, in my my person and people I spend time with all of them revoke my vote and remain anyone who is sort of a right leaning that I know voted leave.

00:28:41:01 – 00:28:57:24
Yeah. And I'm like, it can't be is binary. Is that if you want to be in Europe and your left wing and you're for the good in inverted commas, or you want to leave Europe and be on your own and your for the bad in inverted commas. And that didn't make sense to me, especially when you have politicians on both sides saying leave and remain, right?

00:28:57:24 – 00:29:16:01
Yeah, so that didn't make sense. I didn't like that. I was like I was being forced based on people's political. I'd be able to make a decision that had nothing to do with political ideas, in my opinion. Yeah. Second thing is, there's no possible way I could understand the ramifications of it. How could you possibly know the impact of leaving the European Union?

00:29:16:02 – 00:29:36:01
How complex and intricate and nuanced that is to make such a binary decision on it? I was I can't make that decision because I don't know what I'm voting for. So then it just goes back to Mika and people around me. I know you got a vote for you. Vote for it because you're left leaning or. But that can vote for vote for it because he's like a Tory, right?

00:29:36:01 – 00:29:53:22
I'm like, what would be either of you? I don't I'm not going to make a decision because you're telling me to and I can't make a decision because I don't understand what I'm to ask you. They're asking me to do, and no one did. So everyone just merely voted politically on their political ideals. And as we know, we live in a conservative country.

00:29:53:22 – 00:30:19:20
We always have. And the labor governments, we get in a typically quite centrist like, unlike this one. Let's see. I think this one, as it turns out, has been a little bit more left leaning before it was going to be, but I probably only lost one election term because of it. Genuinely, the UK is. It is a conservative country and that's why we left the European Union, because basically people voted with their political party, not on the question of whether or not we should vote leave.

00:30:19:22 – 00:30:40:18
We should be in the European Union. It was just another vote of whether you vote Tory or Labor. And all, as always, was most of the case Asian. If you have a fit and proper conservative government, it wins and it won there. So I don't know what I'm saying now, whether my rent came from, it's no it's fine.

00:30:40:21 – 00:31:02:10
It's like going back to the, the salute, shall we say, this went. Yeah. Well, I'm disappointed that it has picked up do you think people and that wasn't. And don't click that up right now. I've just done that in isolation. If that's sent out on social media, would people think, what would people think of that system?

00:31:02:10 – 00:31:26:03
Yeah. Yeah. That, you know what they would think you just but I actually what I was doing is just mimicking, you know, taking Mickey out of Elon Musk. What how would that be framed of Anansi. Yeah, exactly. And especially the copy I'm going to put with it as well. Yeah. It's so I've seen like to go back to your point of people saying that Elon said, my heart goes out to you or whatever it was.

00:31:26:03 – 00:31:47:01
And he touched his heart and then that was his thing. Another clip has surfaced from a year or two years ago where where he does the heart side of things, and then he softly puts his both his hands out in peace. Dispersing. Yeah, dispersing his heart to the crowd like that. That's what I would understand of my heart goes out to you.

00:31:47:06 – 00:32:10:04
But what he did there, and people have got like loads of images of like, far right people doing Nazi salutes and put the put the images next to Aiden's one and they're exactly the same. It's exactly the same. I can't, I can't understand like the mental gymnastics of what people are. They said, come on, I still have Kamala Harris doing a Nazi salute.

00:32:10:04 – 00:32:36:23
And then you watch the video. She's not doing that. She hasn't looked like it. It's it's mad. And then it's like, oh, he was doing, what is it, a Roman salute or something like that? It's like like you said, forget about your politics for one minute. Forget about left and right and this and that. If you were to take that salute and in isolation, that is, a Nazi salute.

00:32:37:00 – 00:33:01:22
And for me, it's like one of those times where he knows he is one of the most powerful people on this planet now. And it's like, I can do anything. I can do anything. I can't exactly. Yeah, yeah, I can literally do and say anything. And I have so much belief and power behind me that I'll get away with it.

00:33:01:24 – 00:33:19:15
Yeah, I'm going to do this now. I'm the least and he's done it. And it's just mad, man. If you're a Republican or someone you want change in a political system because people see him like as an agent for change, which is I can understand the appeal to that. Yeah. All right. The status quo isn't serving you anymore.

00:33:19:15 – 00:33:46:03
Political ideals are not serving you anymore. Labor conservative, Republican, Democrat system isn't two. Party system is not serving you anymore and is a disrupter in our midst. And he's going to change. You can understand how that's attractive. Yeah, right. You can still buy him. The problem is when you start backing him once that once you back his actions, then you have an issue because you're doing this, you're trying to he's done the Nazi salute.

00:33:46:05 – 00:34:01:24
You've gone God, what have you done that because there's a lot of what you're doing. I think it's good, but I don't condone the Nazi salute. That's the position you should be in. Well, and then you're like, all right, I get it. I understand you did a mental thing. You don't like that bit, but most of what you do, he says, is, is a right.

00:34:02:05 – 00:34:19:23
It's like the Jordan Peterson people hate him. And yes, that's why he gets under people's skin. But there's a lot of what he says is actually quiet. This is parts of like men's health and mental health and healthy living. You could listen to and get something from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're also acknowledging the fact that some of what he said is really problematic.

00:34:19:23 – 00:34:46:10
Right? That's my position on him. That's what you should be like. What you do didn't like the Nazi salute bit and then move on. Yeah, I just I just don't do those things. Keep doing this bear. I like this better. Yeah. Absolutely mental. Like if you had a 20 goal season strike striker at Tottenham and then he was caught it doing like dressing up in Halloween as a Nazi.

00:34:46:12 – 00:35:10:03
Yeah. Doctor or Nazi soldier. Yeah. Just you wouldn't go. Oh no he didn't mean it. You just go, yeah, that was stupid. Let's just move on. Yeah. He didn't read the room properly. Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Have you, outside? I've just heard that, a bin for over. Yeah. Did you get caught up in this? In this weather radar?

00:35:10:03 – 00:35:26:02
Look, fucking with our mate. I fucking love a storm, too. Yeah, I want to get rid. I want to be in the red zone. I know people don't want to be in the red zone. I'm going in in. Bullshit. We're sort of protected. So landlocked about cherries in the middle. In terms of southwest, the region is in the middle.

00:35:26:02 – 00:35:48:21
So we're sort of landlocked. So we're protected, right? We don't really get the red zones, unfortunately. Yeah. The south coast of Milton Keynes, do you? Or it's more balmy in the West Midlands in it. Yeah. But Milton Keynes is like the most central part in the country from either side of the East Midlands. I can hear what you're saying and I'm not going to rise to that.

00:35:48:23 – 00:36:11:15
But but the West, West Chester, Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, the West Midlands and sort of Cheshire, they get it bad Northern Ireland. But where my brother is it's like red, it's reds. I know they said like red zones a couple of times a year. It feels like he's in a red zone constantly. However, there's a mentor in the south south in Pembrokeshire where he lives, a ace.

00:36:11:15 – 00:36:32:22
And the thing is as well, right? With bad weather, I'm always like like saying I love bad weather. And my favorite thing is when I'm sitting indoors and I'm nice and cozy and I'm looking out the window and like, it's all just kicking off. You can hear the wind battering houses next door and bins flying over and all this kind of shit happening.

00:36:32:24 – 00:36:57:03
And I'm just like this. This is quality. But I remember when I was a kid, I always wanted my street to flood, or where I wanted to live, to properly flood. I always, you know, when you see people on the news and they're on, canoes, they're just wheezing around the streets because they're so flooded. I always wanted to be that guy in the little dinghy.

00:36:57:03 – 00:37:17:20
You hope that's just. You're not like you don't. You don't want a broken river, don't you? Like? Not when the river breaks its banks, I love that, no, I thought yeah, but that's fishing. That's that's like fish get lost. And it ruins the that how you can fish the river. Forget the big. So where would you for like, naturally find like carp?

00:37:17:22 – 00:37:34:04
Like miracle. So anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so only in in bodies and move it. It doesn't move like you find them in a canal or, you can find them in the canal. Few and far between. But they are. They are in the canal as well. They stick to the same place. So they are like nomadic.

00:37:34:06 – 00:37:55:18
They are nomadic, but generally speaking, that they will, frequent the places where they know there is going to be food sources. And throughout the different times of year as well, where they know what, what, what do they eat naturally in the wild, if it isn't pellets being thrown in by fishermen? Well, normally you would.

00:37:55:18 – 00:38:23:05
It would just be. So you get, bloodworm that grows and in the, in the soil, in the silt, in the mud, in the weed. Oh sorry. Okay. In worms. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little mussels, little slugs and stuff. Stuff that just falls in naturally the, breaking down of, like, weed and stuff like that. They just grub around with anything really, the right dirty little pigs.

00:38:23:07 – 00:38:47:13
So it's, I mean, yeah, I don't like the. I don't like it when, the river the I do like it, but I'm also thinking about the, the fish inside of it, but, more like the thunderstorms in a weather. A lot more like. Yeah. Getting the wind, having the right would burn, roaming the wind outside. Right. And that's that's the one.

00:38:47:13 – 00:39:04:07
So did I seem a bit distracted? There it is. Yeah. You did? Yeah. Sorry. I just I'm getting in trouble with the wife. I guess, we've got a diffuser in our, kitchen, so it smells nice. And already. Oh, yeah. So you, Because I like it, I'm invested in it, and I'll top it up every now and then.

00:39:04:09 – 00:39:27:20
Yeah, and I've topped out with water this morning. And instead of putting the lovely smelling stuff in there. Yeah, I've put the cleaning fluid, herbal smell that's supposed to go in there. Hoover. No, I think it's broken. And already just for informing me via text message that this is what happens.

00:39:27:22 – 00:39:47:01
I don't know what to do about that. So you try your best. I know I'm trying to help. I'm just trying to charge you best. You charge you best. Angry with me? But I can tell like she I have, she's diagnosed me with. Is this abuse right? You tell me. And I might be, Jess, who's listen to this is our mutual friend.

00:39:47:01 – 00:40:12:09
Just listening to every single episode. She's our biggest. She's the biggest fan of this podcast. I love Jess, she's my love. I love her lover wife, Sammy. And we love Jude as well. But, I you I want to know if the fact that my wife has diagnosed me with dyspraxia, whether that's kind or not. What is, dyspraxia.

00:40:12:09 – 00:40:36:13
So they, like clumsy. They bump into things, they drop things, they forget things. They blurt out things without thinking that. Okay, I, I don't know whether to say this. I live in a pod, but I do. You know what? What? You've brought up some fucking good night. All right. But, I would say you've got ADHD. I have a great DHT.

00:40:36:15 – 00:41:00:02
You have? You can't lie. So I'm not being diagnosed by my best mate and my wife in the week. That. But so what we're saying is the two similar traits. Do you know what I mean? So there is that there is definitely something, but you might, because my daughter recently, she has she been struggling, school for years and we've always known this.

00:41:00:02 – 00:41:33:07
And there's never been a kind of diagnosis of it. And we know that there's, like an ADHD and there's, dyscalculia as well, like with maths and, dyslexia, English. But it's never we've not done the tests and they don't do tests at schools. And so she's had the tests and a lot of the stuff of what they were listening listing and what they, what you should be looking out for to be able to say, yes, this person is showing traits of ADHD.

00:41:33:07 – 00:41:56:10
So it's not the test to say you definitely have it, but the traits and every single thing I was reading, just like giggling to myself because it's exactly who you are. It's exactly who my Mrs. is. Do you know what I mean? Like you, you and my missus are the same people, but just boy and girl. Yeah, it's just read.

00:41:56:10 – 00:42:20:13
And I was just like, I hate that stuff. Like the nail on the head. One of them is, that I see this all the time with people with ADHD. If you if you're explaining something to them and they know that immediately if they figured it out, what you're trying to portray to them, it's not right. Great. Get to the next bit, get to the next bit, get to the next bit.

00:42:20:15 – 00:42:39:21
But the person still explaining what they want or what they're trying to do, that that person gets frustrated and it's like trying to move the conversation. It's like, yeah, I've got that information. Give me the next bit, give me the next bit. And I see that with yourself quite a lot. And there's like, like loads of other traits as well.

00:42:39:21 – 00:43:00:01
But, but so you've, you've, you've read a pamphlet and now you're diagnosing me with, with, with ADHD. Well, I probably spend a minute and 10s reading the pamphlet and I have it by myself. Hilarious. As you think, every time I drop something to you guys. Dyspraxia.

00:43:00:03 – 00:43:27:12
Is present. This is it. Your your coordination, balance and movement isn't great. I've got to be honest how I learn new skills. Think, remember information at work or home? Yeah, daily living skills such as getting dressed, the prepare meals, ability to write, type, draw and grasp more objects. So I drop things with my hands all the time. I cannot type without making mistakes and I think everybody does but me especially.

00:43:27:14 – 00:43:42:09
And my writing I if you see my handwriting is fucking atrocious, she says. It's like it's like a spider's run through ink and run across the page. I'm like, what am I supposed to do with this information? What do you want from me? This is just who I am. This is you married. This is a you married. It's not telling me.

00:43:42:09 – 00:44:05:14
Yeah. Dyspraxia. So you said it's not to be confused to cerebral palsy or stroke. So I'm like I'm one step below someone with cerebral palsy or someone who's at a stroke that day. And I thought about like, you know, in terms of stroke, that's one of the big risks if you have high blood pressure. And that's why I'm on this sort of health kick and giving up the booze and fags in that, really.

00:44:05:14 – 00:44:24:18
They really didn't want to they didn't want to have that like that. I don't know. People listen to this. I massively impactful a stroke can be. So that was one factors of it. It has your blood pressure going down. Yeah. That's well I mean that's that's to normal. Back to normal. Yeah. Well it was on you. Come on.

00:44:24:19 – 00:44:44:17
It was on hypertension stage three which is got one blood circuit like it's like on the charts that they give you. It's at the top. You know, you know like in the Premier League when you got a player who's playing good and it's like a midfielder and he's you know those charts people up. Sorry if you don't know what we're talking about.

00:44:44:17 – 00:45:06:07
But there's an outline player like Kulusevski and he's at the top right. And so yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So my heart rate was up there. All the normal people around the middle. Yeah. So like it's it's rated into up by two metrics. And then you combine them to find where you are in this graph. Right. And you need to be down there.

00:45:06:09 – 00:45:25:00
You don't need to be down by the left hand side of the group chart, ideally not completely down there because that's a low blood pressure, which is bad as well. You need to be in the middle. Yeah, I did you kind of reading it and given that exam because Kulusevski is right in the corner. Yeah. Because he's an outlier.

00:45:25:00 – 00:45:46:21
Because he's he's amazing. Like did you think oh like my approach is no, no. That no I've got a good heart. I can't I don't know I missed the battle at heart. Yeah. Do you realize that everybody has this and it's a phobia. People have you going through doctors, doctors, and then they're asking you questions about your health, and you lie a little bit.

00:45:46:23 – 00:46:07:08
Yeah. Information deal. Why do you do that as a human being? We go in there and go, you know, I'm like, I know, I know I'm lying, but we just play along. How much do you drink a week? You know, 14 units at A00 with. Yeah, with the doctors. I normally, quite, honest with you, it's like.

00:46:07:10 – 00:46:25:21
But Dennis, there is, there is quite. I know, they know, I know they know that they're fucking looking in my mouth. They've got a spotlight in my mouth. And they say, Ricky, how many times he brush it day? 17 times a day. I love brushing my teeth. And it's like, neither are you doing two either, brushing them twice a day.

00:46:25:21 – 00:46:51:07
That right. You know, not Ricky, you are not thousands of people. Listen to this. I know what I brush once a day. Why not try it, you know, and then sometimes I do twice what you do this morning as well. You're doing evenings every morning. All day. Well that's something right. Evenings. Sometimes I'll do it. Sometimes I'm just like, I'm just going to get mouthwash.

00:46:51:09 – 00:47:12:24
Just. Just let them out. So you're doing something. You guys better refresh breakfast. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's always something that's happening. Yeah. Not like I'm just going to bed with sugar sitting on my teeth. Yeah, yeah. But I have to have told them that's what I do, and they're like that. But the mouthwash literally isn't doing anything that freshens it up.

00:47:12:24 – 00:47:36:04
But, yeah, I did I have done that in a few times where I've had gum disease and bleeding gums, but because, well, when we, when you change the any tooth brush, I sometimes have it like the, the vibration of my electric toothbrush is different and it causes a little bit of bleeding. The gum not often, but I found mouthwash combined with a brush helps.

00:47:36:10 – 00:47:56:18
It takes away the bleeding really quickly. I found that oh, that's good to know if yeah it's not. It's like dental hygiene stuff like I my gums aren't bleeding, so I'm fine. I'm fine. Yeah, but you know, Jesus, a man who doesn't wash his hands after he has a poo either. Mate, that's such a fucking lie that is not touched it.

00:47:56:20 – 00:48:18:01
That's liable, that is. Oh, is it a way? That way is you that you're that like. Do you remember like when we were down at you? That's what you say. Careful what you say. What? I don't know what you're gonna say, but just be careful. Well, every time that you went for way and you came out of the toilets, and then you came to join the garden market to go fuck.

00:48:18:02 – 00:48:32:19
So you're not going to wash your hands. And you'd look at the frown and just go, go wash your hands. I wash them, yeah, yeah. No no, no, they just checking I did and then I say, yes I have done it, I have done, yeah. You're that you, you used to say to me, you used to have a piss.

00:48:32:19 – 00:48:50:17
Right. And then you'd come back and you're, it's all the same skin, sort of same skin, untouched. You have said that that does sound exactly something that I'd say. Is it is it fair if you have, in a way. But none of the week gets on your hands not to wash your hands after the way. Way. Yeah. But since having sex, having in your body, you got.

00:48:50:19 – 00:49:13:07
Yeah. It's the, it's the back's the back spray and it like the spray that you can't. Have you ever, like, have you ever gone for like a lot of the guys listen to this. Have you ever gone for a way where you're not wearing socks and you're just wearing shorts? You go for way, the way you go straight into the toilet, you can't say, yeah, the spray.

00:49:13:09 – 00:49:35:03
It's not how much it sprays and you can't see it. Be fair on your feet and your legs. And it's like, this is fucking madness. This is not typically not because it depends where you hitting the pen I go for, you know, where the door is. Slightly. Right. Just. Yeah. It's not above. Above spot in the Portland.

00:49:35:03 – 00:49:55:10
Yeah. At the back because the I don't want it splashing in the water because it sounds really loud. So it's like, yeah, they hit the bit of porcelain then it's like doubles. That sounds right. Yeah, yeah. Urinals in pubs. It's like a must that you wash your hands because those urine is high, like there's been a toilet, the spray coming off them and the angels.

00:49:55:10 – 00:50:04:00
You're pissed. It's other people's piss. Yeah, yeah. And then like. But if you've got cocaine, you don't think about any of that.

00:50:04:02 – 00:50:25:11
You know. Yeah, yeah. You go into the cubicle, you racket line up on top of that system. Yeah. And there is all kinds of shit up there, but you'll just get it into me. Yeah. Oh, what a fish falling on the system. Better rub that into my gums. I think we used to do it. What did we do?

00:50:25:13 – 00:50:48:12
What do we do? I, I remember it's well, when I used to go to Tottenham in the old stadium where it was just one big, long silver trough and, it was people queuing to go for a piss, and I'd be standing there and I'd be going for a pace and like, you are literally shoulder to shoulder with other men, dicks out pissing.

00:50:48:14 – 00:51:10:00
And as you're pissing, you could feel like the tapping on your shoes of other men's urine kicking you. You hated your jeans, or you shit your trainers. And being like, this is fucking grim, man. Yeah, this is grim. This is grim. But what I want to say, really, in just in terms of the doctors, is.

00:51:10:02 – 00:51:29:16
When there's nothing you can hide, you can't. You can hide by lying, right? You can hide. You can say, I'm. I'm fine. I do a bit of exercise. Yeah, but when they do your tests and check inside your body, and they, they did the blood tests and then they put an EKG on. There's no hiding them right now.

00:51:29:22 – 00:51:50:11
Your friends will tell you what's wrong, whether or not you like it or not, whatever you want to say. And at that point, when I realized because I didn't go in for that, that was the key. And they gone, you know, your your blood pressure is you shouldn't be. Where is it? 43 and because I knew exactly why and I'd let myself get to that stage.

00:51:50:13 – 00:52:11:03
Right. So ashamed of myself for it. Like, what are you doing? Like, how have you done that? You're, you know, what you were doing? Your brain was telling you. Your ego was telling you. You was. You'd wake up at 4:00 in the morning going a fucking. I'm hung over on pace to get like I've been drink drunk.

00:52:11:05 – 00:52:28:14
Last night I didn't do anything. I smoked loads of fact. And every morning at 4 a.m. in the morning, you wake up and think that and you go through this mental turmoil, you can't go back to sleep. And then the next day comes along. First opportunity, first thing that goes wrong. I have a drink. I have a fuck.

00:52:28:15 – 00:52:47:04
Yeah, right. This make you feel better and then it's fine. It does for works for a long, long time. And then the doctor goes like, this is going to kill you. If you do this. The doctor says, let your heart rate your heart, your pressure, your blood pressure is not where it needs to be. At 43. Do you want to live to your 60?

00:52:47:06 – 00:53:06:06
I want to live past that. Want to turn 80, and you're doing something about it, which is amazing. Yeah, yeah. And he took that. It took me. Someone took me to expose the lies that I was telling myself. Yeah, do something in me. I needed to hear that. And last night made the cravings lol. Yes, they were insane.

00:53:06:08 – 00:53:23:09
Well, for for a drink. Yeah. As we've been recording, I've just gone 30 days without a drink. Right? And the many congrats mate. 30 days fucking happen. It's nothing. It's good, it's good, but it's nothing. It's got God's will. You know, this is a this is a lifestyle change. Completely. But anyway, it's not the point. I'm not counting the days, right?

00:53:23:10 – 00:53:27:15
I'm just making a point is.

00:53:27:17 – 00:53:53:18
I wasn't saying, Fuck. God. The the lifestyle changes. What did you. Well, what have you been this morning? I went swimming. Oh, my God, with my breakfast. God, I can't believe it. I would you mean with your bread? Jones? Hey, I'm making friends at the swimming pool. I really. Yeah, there is, what's her name?

00:53:53:20 – 00:54:26:00
Pauline. Yes. She's, like 69. Yeah. Okay. Great. Yeah. They're really friendly. Everyone's really friendly, and they want to be friends, and they want to chat and stuff, and I need to swim a little bit as well. But, yeah. Let's have a chat. Mate. That's amazing. That. See, like, I am happy for you. Like, really, genuinely like, going out and doing something like swimming or when I like, I enjoy swimming when I'm abroad because it's hot, but I like being in England.

00:54:26:00 – 00:54:47:01
And then the thought of getting into a cold pool fills me with dread. My kids are going swimming today and they're like, are you going to come? And I was like, hell no, I'll watch. But I'm not stepping in that freezing cold pool at all. But to get up early in the morning you take yourself swimming. But I went to bed at ten minutes, so it's like, yeah, doesn't matter.

00:54:47:01 – 00:55:11:00
It was eight hours. But I mean, going to bed at ten, that's great. Getting up early. That's great. And then going into cold pool to get some exercise. That's fucking brilliant mate. Yeah, yeah. Done. It was good. Well last night, that's what I meant to say. That the cravings man I David that was day 30 was a 30 after yesterday's from 30 complete day's this morning.

00:55:11:02 – 00:55:35:11
That's why I've mentioned it 30 days. Right. Because it started it's I thought I was had a handle on it. I thought I had a handle on it. And then yesterday, for some reason, inexplicably had a good day and I was working. I got a lot done at work and everything's fine. We made this decision on the house, so we're kind of moving forward.

00:55:35:13 – 00:55:58:12
Hey. And I was at like 4:00. I was, I fucking would love a glass of wine now. Yeah, I've had that before. And I thought, I'll just write this out because those urges come and then they always go. Always. That's what I would say to anyone who's given up at the moment. The urges are temporary and they're always temporary, but this one stuck around for a bit.

00:55:58:14 – 00:56:26:01
So like tanning cans of Coke, like, not like a 20 Coke. Basically things to try and you've got to do something. Yeah, that's a good one as well. Just smashing loads of carbs into your body. Yeah. You don't necessarily want to drink after you fill up. No, I like that. That is good. And it's like more the it's not retraining your brain because it's that reward part isn't it?

00:56:26:07 – 00:56:53:00
It's that I've had a busy day at work of smashed work. Today. We've done something with a house we detested. Light. Brilliant. Tick tick tick I feel great. Now let's go and relax with a glass of wine. And that's what you always did. I'm trying to break that cycle. It's going to be fucking hard. And trying to replace it with something else that is more healthy or more cling to you or whatever.

00:56:53:02 – 00:57:18:22
It's really hard to try and, find the right balance, but as long as you don't pick up that bottle, then you're doing you're doing all good. But with my smoking and vaping at the moment, like I haven't touched it, not thought about it, don't care. And in my in my mind there's a bit of me that's like oh gone all done cravings also it Vic never again.

00:57:18:24 – 00:57:42:06
But then there's the other part. It says you fucking wait till summer sun. You wait until you're in, you're in a beer garden. You're in a beer garden. You have a beer. And then, my, my two, actually said to me, when we go down and see Foxy and you're and you're having a bit of foxy, I bet you can treat yourself to a vape then.

00:57:42:06 – 00:58:03:07
And then immediately I was like, that's what's going to happen, but it's not going to happen. But I know now that I need to be like in those situations to know when you have said therapy with Foxy in the summer, I'm like, but by the way, that Foxy, do you have to say that it was it was. That's what my fam.

00:58:03:07 – 00:58:25:00
That's when I met my kids when they were four and six. That's what they called me for another reason. So it's stuck. That's what it is. All right. And now your kids call it from me for some reason. So there's like, ten people in the world that call me Foxy, and that is it. Most of the people didn't go, well, now they're going to go, foxy, but it is what it is.

00:58:25:02 – 00:58:43:09
But when you set that rate, like beer in the summer and I'm like, yeah, like, that could be 100 days away from me or 150. And now I'm like, that sounds amazing. So I don't know. I don't I don't know if I'm going to I don't I think I've given up alcohol for the rest of my life.

00:58:43:09 – 00:59:05:07
But I also think about times where I want to and I want to still experience those things. I want to go over the boys. I want to being a bit yeah, I want to be able to go down a pub, run it, not to be a problem and I just don't. The alcoholic in me says.

00:59:05:09 – 00:59:24:12
Says you're the minute you do that, you'll go back into your old ways. Yeah, well the alcoholic, if he says no, you'll be fine. You'll be. You can do that. That'll be fine. Yeah, but my rational part of my brain goes, I know what happens. I know what you do is you start date, you'll start drinking every day again, and then you'll have to go through that process.

00:59:24:12 – 00:59:56:19
And that withdrawal from alcohol is not nice, ever. It's not as dramatic as you see in films. Yeah, but that the lack of sleep, quality of sleep, an issue of alcohol, a massive impact and it takes a while to get up to speed. I don't where you can be asked to start again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like I just in my mind like why do I like I don't know if it's helpful for you instead of trying to put a label on it as to say, you know, I'm never going to drink again, I'm never going to call again, just like that.

00:59:56:19 – 01:00:22:19
I'm taking a break from it. So it's not. So it's not that big of you if you do have to be like, oh, I failed. Oh, I feel bad. And then you start spiraling because you said, I'm never going to drink again, and someone sees you with a beer. You're not going to drink. You know, I think that anyone would be that I don't know, I know, I know with my family and most likely to do, like my brothers and stuff made you.

01:00:22:21 – 01:00:48:04
But that's fine. That's fine. I'll see you at a time. Right. That's always. I've kind of, told my self as well, because I'm doing dry January and, I would like to continue it further on in my mind. So, you know, when you tell yourself this is, well, I'll have a drink is the only time that I'm going to have an alcoholic drink is when I'm with my Mrs., because that's the only time when it's enjoyable, not when I've got my mates.

01:00:48:04 – 01:01:15:11
It's fun, but then just it's always into excess and then the hangovers, and then it's a miserable few days and weeks after. But when I'm with my Mrs., it's actually fun and it's not like goes to the other side of getting absolutely battered. I'm feeling not shit, so I'll see how I get on with that. More than likely fall flat on my face and just still go out my mates steam steaming bar mate.

01:01:15:12 – 01:01:33:19
Do you want a time? Yeah. Not that fucking chat from the doctor. You're right. It was my five stupid fault beforehand. I could have easily managed this better in the past, but I took it to the point where I couldn't. And now I'm here. So I take responsibility for that. And the plus side of it is, I feel fucking fantastic.

01:01:33:21 – 01:01:51:09
That is amazing. It's like. I mean, it's like a superpower. Really? Yeah. It's like in terms of what I was because I was operating at such a low level. Yeah. You know how awful I felt. How fucking fat. I mean, I'm not there for people who are overweight. It's it's on you. It's up to you. And I don't mind.

01:01:51:09 – 01:02:07:09
I think I'm not going to pick you out for being overweight, but for me, it made me feel terrible. Yeah. And look at, like, that video I just sent you on. Look at that. I'm fucking ginormous. I'm. Oh, I mean, I didn't see that, but you would see that course, because that's what you do, right? I'm like, this is like.

01:02:07:15 – 01:02:26:16
And now, like, literally within a week of giving up booze, you feel like a different person. But this has been a month now, and the sleep meh is so good. I look forward to going to bed. Yeah, likewise. And I know I'm not waking up for eight hours and I feel great. And again, I've this smartwatch. It tells me how good my sleep is.

01:02:26:16 – 01:02:45:09
It's like a game I've got with myself. How could I go? How, how good can I get my get my sleep? But let me tell you something real quickly, because I certainly some of them, I'm pretty sure I'll be talking a lot. Yeah, but then I saw that that's how, you know, when you've hit your 40s in a game, having a game of how well you can sleep.

01:02:45:09 – 01:03:17:23
Yeah. So, but I, I've started wearing this, fitness watch when I started my, this thing. Right. Yeah. Stopped drinking and all of my, all of my sleep was poor, poor, poor, poor needs need urgent work. Yeah. And then yesterday I did it, and I had excellent sleep time. Average excellent sleep time, consistency, excellent sleep time. So at the same energy score and excellent bed to wake time consistency.

01:03:18:00 – 01:03:34:18
And it tells you how much energy you're going to have for your day. And I'm working it. I don't know how it does it make you just it might be ballocks, but I'm going to believe it is 87 out of 100. Come on man, I don't give the came that. So I'd recommend anyone thinking about getting sober. I'd recommend it.

01:03:34:23 – 01:03:58:03
And I don't know how long. You know, I'm trying my best day by day. No, I swear, and anyone. Listen, I won't talk about being sober again on this podcast unless something major happens. I just appreciate how fucking boring it can be when people get sober. No, no, no, not at all. Are we not from the get there in a very similar situation to yourself.

01:03:58:03 – 01:04:21:14
So I think people find it helpful on how you speak about it, how you dealing with it and just kind of educating other people as well. Right. We are going to go onto dilemmas and something only you know in a little bit. So dilemmas is called the affair. And so the only you know is code. That wasn't Jez.

01:04:21:16 – 01:04:46:19
I've been surrounded by affairs at the moment. Right. I'm not going to say anything more than that. There's been a couple affairs. Are you fucking kidding me? Really? Yeah, I've been a couple of couple of bars. Can you, can you not? No, no. Okay. Right. Well on here, of course. Well, well, I feel like a general generalization of the situation where peaceful way to.

01:04:46:23 – 01:05:03:23
But I just think it's just. No, no, not at all. I'm just saying that it's just it happens all the time, and I've just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will, I'll chat to you after a bit. Did you? No, it's our one year anniversary. Yeah. So you. So did you want me to say something about it? No, there's just.

01:05:04:02 – 01:05:19:09
No, I'm just saying. Did you. Did you. Were you aware that I saw your Instagram account? Right. Okay, good. That's good. Yeah. Caught up in a year. Yeah. I've been here for you. How has it been for you? Is it been. Is it gone?

01:05:19:11 – 01:05:46:03
Is it going fast? Up to 12. Was it 12? Podcasts a week is good. It's good. That's good. Yeah. It does. You know, I mean, Rick, we were. What do you remember the conversation we had, I think in October 2023. And I know that because that was another sober period of my life, weirdly, remember being been off the drink then and we were having a conversation as I was driving to Bognor Regis.

01:05:46:05 – 01:06:03:04
So I remember this. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This Brexit behavior, I remember this stuff. And and we were talking about setting up this podcast and making I was like, you know, use in middle of work. And we were talking about, that fucking do it right. Let's go do it. And that was about three months later. Happened.

01:06:03:06 – 01:06:29:02
Yeah. And that's gone. Flown by, flying by, flying by bro. Look at you. Gone from not not sure about doing a podcast to doing one on your own which is every week. Yeah, I know if madness is so the topic for next week, where again, we are going to go with a more kind of laid back approach where things in the news will pop up and fly, and I will basically just be having a bit of a chat.

01:06:29:04 – 01:06:55:08
If there's anything that you've heard on this week's pod that you would like to email in about, you can email us at lads anon Pod at gmail.com. If there's any thing you see in the news that you would like us to discuss anything that stirs a fire in you, anything that you feel is a bit weird or a bit suspect.

01:06:55:10 – 01:07:18:05
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01:07:18:07 – 01:07:49:19
Them night the jungle up in the mouth about, oh, just just tired and you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad. Cause pain will taste you aching in your soul. Alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky. Flat. Yeah. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to play like you're safe here to get nice and warm between Vicky and then.

01:07:49:21 – 01:08:16:06
If you don't pop your head listening to that, I don't know what you did. Anyway, the affair, my friend, who is due to get married in a few months, has told me she's been having an affair with a married coworker since last year. Apparently, it was just a one off to start with, but now it's progressed to a full blown affair with them meeting several times a week.

01:08:16:07 – 01:08:47:22
I don't in any way condone cheating. I can understand why some people feel pushed to if they're unhappy or trapped in their relationship. What I really don't understand about this is that she said she could not file anything with her fiancee, and nothing about him makes her unhappy. It's just a case of this coworker being exciting. She has no intention of either ending the affair or not going ahead with the wedding.

01:08:47:24 – 01:09:13:09
I told her I'm concerned about the repercussions if she gets caught. In my opinion, she has a lot to lose from this, but she doesn't think there's any chance of them getting caught out. I don't know why the whole thing is making me so anxious when I'm not even involved, but I can't stop thinking about it. I'm so lost on how I should feel about this whole thing.

01:09:13:11 – 01:09:31:20
I don't want to lose them as a friend because they're an important part of my life. But at the same time, I just can't look at her the same way. How am I supposed to carry on being part of her and her fiance, his life, and being part of their wedding? When I know what is happening, what should I do?

01:09:31:20 – 01:09:58:13
That's why you feel anxious. Because of all of that, you're involved in their lives. So you're. Yeah, enormous. I did feel the exact same way. Yeah. If you're. The thing is, is if you're having an affair, don't involve your mates in it. If you want to do that, if you want to be deceitful and you want to potentially, well, you will crush the other person's life in the short term, for sure, that don't involve your mates.

01:09:58:13 – 01:10:17:22
Don't let them know. And it hasn't in lads culture, much more than I guess I would imagine in women's where they just it's broke out, right, it's not going back home. And I would say genuinely in men that's pretty strong, a strong bond that exists and it's almost sacred.

01:10:17:24 – 01:10:37:10
I'd like if you told me in a while, but if you told me that you were having an affair, while I'd be furious with you. There is no world where I break your. I don't break your trust. I don't tell you I don't. You doesn't even get back to my wife. Yeah, if you did that, would you would you not would you not tell?

01:10:37:12 – 01:10:59:09
Right. No one. No. No one would ever find out from me. Yeah, but I'd be like, firstly, why have you told me I a few men I'd be. Yeah. Before me with you. Because obviously I've, I'm friends with your wife and we've been mates for as soon as we knew each other we became friends. Right. We chat every now and then on WhatsApp and whatnot.

01:10:59:09 – 01:11:22:00
So I. I'm invested in your relationship. Yeah. And, and if you want to do that right, then that would hurt me greatly. But we're talking about this like I've done it. Like I've just be like, come out here and say, this has never, ever fucking happened and never will.

01:11:22:02 – 01:11:41:13
Yeah, that's I'd say like it's your don't involve your mates if you want to do like people do silly things that they could be in a happy relationship. And yeah, some people just need to get that attention from other people. I don't know. I don't know why they do it. It's not in me. It's just not in me.

01:11:41:15 – 01:12:05:11
Yeah, I, I do have a mate who, had an affair. I don't know if it's, I see, like, I don't know if this affair has stopped. They have explained that it has, but you're kind of like, well, there's a love affair in your that you know about. Yeah, well, I mean, like, it is I'm saying it very generally.

01:12:05:11 – 01:12:34:02
It could be fucking anyone. Yeah. So many y'all really. It could be anyone in the literally. It could be anyone. You know, I could be making this story up just to the podcast. Okay, there you go. Yeah. But, as it happens, I may or may not know of, an affair. Well, the thing is, I don't know now because they they inadvertently told me that it was happening.

01:12:34:04 – 01:12:59:06
And it's to a point now where if I were to ask that person, they've said it's not happening anymore, the it's just not, you know, when we're not that the affairs have stopped and we've gone back to our respective partners and it was just a crazy few months or whatever. Now, do I believe them? Have they for fuck given you the opportunity to just think, not stop thinking about it?

01:12:59:08 – 01:13:18:13
They've given you an opportunity to not be involved in on a emotional level. Well, I'm invested now. You're just curious. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh you're not. You're like this like this other person, you know, this. And he's like, yeah, yeah, you're. So I want to know if someone said like one of my other mates said, should we get in a car and see outside their house just to see what's happening?

01:13:18:14 – 01:13:38:20
I would be like, yes, let's do that. Yeah. So I yeah. Would I fucking well, I've got like make sure we'll go KFC, we'll get a big bucket. We just sit there and we'll just watch that, you know, see their car to see where they go out. So that'd be fucking open your kid with their own work or something like that.

01:13:38:22 – 01:14:22:24
No no no no I don't need my out. They don't name. But for this person in this trapped in this dilemma, you can't say anything and you can't really do anything, and and it's. Well, like, not you saying if you're kind of straddled with two feet in the boat of. I know the woman. Sorry. Excuse me. And then I know the, the guy when that relationship breaks up or the person is found to be cheating, will the guy turn around and say to you, like how friendly all you like were the termites that you knew that this was going on and you didn't say anything to me?

01:14:23:01 – 01:14:54:03
Oh, what a fucking no. This person is they are in a in a sticky, horrible situation, like. Yeah, they, they they've been put in a situation where their relationship like it should never come out that she knows. Yeah. Because it's not her fault, hasn't done anything wrong. And now she's putting. Sometimes life puts you in these countries where you have to make a decision one way or another, and they're both going to hurt someone or they're both be bad, but you're within your rights to just try and stop thinking about this and just get on with your life because you have your own fucking problems.

01:14:54:03 – 01:15:11:01
So this is yeah, what fucks me off when people come to me with their problems, it's like, it's this. On one level, I'm kind of try and I'll be happy to help, but not to the point where this is absolutely upsetting my life now, like you're coming to, I have a big issue with people shitting on my doorstep.

01:15:11:01 – 01:15:47:10
I don't, I doesn't I don't always come across as the kindest person when it happens. But no, I've got my own problems to deal with as well. Yeah. And I, I have very much, I can see where you're coming from. It's basically because without sounding like a, a knob here, but you're you your visibility online has increased quite a lot from the podcast that you do based on, Sky, whatever it might be.

01:15:47:10 – 01:16:05:04
Right? Yeah. So a lot of people hear your voice and feel like. Right, I am friends of you, and I'm going to tell you this problem, and it's kind of like leaving their shit on your door, right? What do I do with this? Yeah, I don't know. Social media. I'm certain people in my life I know. Right. Okay.

01:16:05:07 – 01:16:29:10
Even to that degree, like a little bit. But, so there's a limitation to so in a very, in a very small way, it's like with people that I chat to, whether social media, whether, people that I know as well that it happens. It's kind of like, like you're saying I've got my own problems to like, like, I don't know how to.

01:16:29:12 – 01:16:48:12
I think this is what you give people advice and then they don't take it, and then it kind of they come back and be like, whoa, it's this still happening, or this is still happening or whatever. And you're like, whoa, there's only so much that you can do and so much that you can say for, you know, you just banging your head against a brick wall.

01:16:48:18 – 01:17:07:05
But anyway, with this person and this dilemma, I just just get on with your own life. Just just get on with your own life and make I would probably say something to the person, just say that I if any of this ever comes out. I never knew, I never really liked anonymous letter you could write in an anonymous letter.

01:17:07:08 – 01:17:26:13
You could have. You could get ChatGPT to write it. And you and you print it out and you post it and then you know, and send it to the blog, and then it's on them to deal with. No one to know that you've done it. Their conscience is clear. He knows. Yeah, but then you know that you've broken up, but you haven't broken up their relationship.

01:17:26:13 – 01:17:48:16
The woman who's having an affair has that guy that's on her maybe do that. Yeah, because, yeah, she's kind of not. It's not like she's going to get married and just stop fucking other people. She's going to fuck people, so she's going to fuck more people. She's gotta be stopped. But you can just fucking fucking people. You can stop if you want to, but not when you get married.

01:17:48:17 – 01:18:05:23
A bloke who doesn't want doesn't know you fucking everybody. Jesus is horrible. That is horrible. Right? We're going to go into, something I, you know, and this is called. That wasn't Jesus.

01:18:06:00 – 01:18:12:10
Was something, you know.

01:18:12:12 – 01:18:32:10
All right, that's automatic download here. This is something I thought I would take to the grave. I feel like I need to get it off my chest. Poor choice of words with this story. I got my first job, and they sent us on a week of training away from home and put us into hotels. Safe to say, I was pretty excited.

01:18:32:12 – 01:18:53:14
Anyway, it was a group of 20 of us and there was a girl. It was very attractive, slightly trashy, but I thought that she was stunning. Anyway, we got close over the week and on our last evening we decided to go out as a group. Only ten of us went out and the girl was going. I thought this was my last chance.

01:18:53:16 – 01:19:17:19
We would have to. We would be in different offices. So I chatted her up and found out she'd been a calm girl. I thought to myself that she would be an easy conversion. I was right, we ended up with so I was wrong. But we ended, We ended up back at her hotel room doing the filthy deed.

01:19:17:21 – 01:19:45:04
We were. We were both drunk, so I must have been, like, two pigs going at it. Anyway, the point of releasing the poison, or so I thought. She asked me to finish on her milkers aggressive. Fantastic. But as I pulled out and prepared to cover it in my clay, it wasn't the liquid I expected. Turns out I was desperate for a piss and covered her in urine.

01:19:45:06 – 01:20:10:03
The smell was abhorrent. Safe to say she was in shock. In the death silence. I nodded my head at her. I ran out of the room and down the halls, stark bollock naked. We didn't speak. On the last day of the training. I found out after she had a boyfriend and they are now married, so I'm guessing she never said anything and I never will.

01:20:10:05 – 01:20:37:08
To this day, I will always piss before sex and that is something I and bracket. Well, I guess we know, the go. I mean, I don't understand how you go from just to piss so quickly. No, I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I feel like I am about to eat Jack, but instead it's, piss.

01:20:37:10 – 01:21:02:23
Just piss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can't remember a time where I have been on the job, and I'm like, I'm dying for a pisser. No, no, no, no body. So blocks it out. Yeah it does, it doesn't date. Well that's been the end of this episode of Lads anonymous I hope you've enjoyed this, laid back chat that we've, that we've had.

01:21:03:00 – 01:21:12:02
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