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On the night. Hazy light. Band of brothers. Playing tunes. High is quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm. Hit us different ways. Lover. Music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Bands that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to lads Anonymous is episode 31, a podcast with two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space, where all manner of subjects will be discussed.

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We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice. All handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. Five it's been a minute. I've been on holiday. Oh yeah, it feels like we haven't done a pod in a while. At least ten days. Yeah. Links to I mean, to listeners.

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It has been nothing. No different. So why we bring out. Well, I have mentioned that I've been going on, I'm going on holiday. Yeah, but we didn't release the podcast last Monday, so it's no different today. They don't. Well, they do, they know they need to know. They need to know, you know what they need to know?

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Well, they used to hide in your shed, bro. What do you do in the shed house? You would hide in your bedroom and wait for everyone to finish cooking. And before you go and cook your dinner, why? Why do you bring stuff up that we talk about privately before the party? But it's so funny. Well, that is true.

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I because when I was 23, I moved to London when I was 23 and I hadn't done the university things hadn't. I'd never cooked for myself. Right. All I did was live on microwave meals and I couldn't really cook. So I lived in a shared house with seven other people and a large London kind of like townhouse type type house.

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And I couldn't go into the kitchen and do a microwave meal while everybody else is sharing the kitchen, making their meals as well. Right. So I would hide in my room and wait until there was silence in the kitchen for at least ten minutes, because I knew they had gone out and I was fucking starving. Why I was so hungry?

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Because I'm not going to go down there and start peace. Piercing the film of a chili Konkani. Not going to slam in the microwave while they're cooking like asparagus and shit like that, right? I couldn't get it, so I. Yeah. So they're playing proper food. Proper thing. Yeah, yeah. Microwave meal. And it was the kind of shabbiness of the food that you didn't want to be ashamed even when you shamed.

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What. Yeah. That's I mean, I'm not this isn't the I get that I understand that that makes sense. Sometimes. I have a pot noodle in the office. Right? Yeah. Oh. No. Okay, okay, okay. I just showed a pot noodle. Sometimes I think I'm hungry and I'll have a little pot. It wasn't fucking home grown man. I kind of a pot noodle for money.

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Yeah, I love him. He's just ramen anyway. Well, you can look at the all over TikTok and people are making. Oh, I love ramen, man. I put a boiled egg in it and fucking some soy sauce, man. It's the same fucking thing as a pot noodle. Don't pick you up. Exactly. By letting anyone see me make a pot noodle.

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No, I, I I scandalous. Yeah, I'm making a pot needle. That's what they say.

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It is in my old office as well. And, where we make, lunch, I'd bring in a pot. Neato. I thought it was Singapore. Singapore? Curry noodle thing, I know. Hang on, hang on, Ricky, you take it into work. How could you possibly eat a make and eat a pot noodle with no one seen? Well, that's the thing I would just do with my chest out.

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I'd be like, yeah, this is what I'm eating. And everyone be have their salads, chicken salad with a bit of butt dressing and this and this may have a pot. Now you do it. It's not an embrace as it go in. That's why they didn't keep you wondering. Yeah, probably. Probably. Yeah. But, I would, I would agree.

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How can you look at someone in a meeting with any respect, having just seen them eat in a fucking Bombay bad boy? You got no. You cannot. What? You know, you going to tell me how to do my job off of that? No. No, sir. Yeah. Fuck you now. You're absolutely right. The last episode, episode 30, was about hobbies, interests and collectibles.

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Now we have had two emails in on a similar vein and it was about the story I told when I was at primary school where Naveen at lunch time or break time, he had stole someone's monster in my pockets collection wines he'd stolen. And he got caught out doing it. But monitoring my pockets when I was growing up was a big thing.

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And this gentleman did exactly the same thing. And he was the stealer. And he stole someone's Pokémon. I think it was maybe a shiny or something like that. And after that, the whole school banned Pokemon cards and told all the teachers never to bring like collectibles or anything into school. And the guy him emailed and he was the stealer.

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So he ruined everybody. He ruined it for everyone. But you know, there was a lot of them out there. Now, the other email is from another podcast, actually. Oh yeah, a podcast called The Most Dangerous Podcast, and they explore the depths of the abnormal, the unexplained stories like a bit of ghost stuff, bit of Harold Shipman stuff, you know, into the human psyche.

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The darkness is a great podcast. I'll go and listen to it. I love some ship. I love some ship and action. Yeah, they they've done a part one and part two. Fucking Shipman is fully loaded. But look, okay, can I say something really controversial? He was the best one in the UK, I think. Ehm, in terms of serial killers, I'd rather have him than like William Gacy.

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He wears people's skin or not. Yeah, yeah, he's just chopping up old people. Yeah, yeah, just not not just, so, so in terms of rank and serial killers, a little kind of chopping. Yeah. I'm for to an old lady's. I don't know what I'm saying. This is her. Okay. So in 1994, normally we won't, you know, it's anonymous, but we're going to say the names.

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So James and Frazier decided to collect the Panini World Cup 94 sticker collection. So, James, basically, he completed his book, nearly complete it. And I didn't know this, but if you get up to 50 stickers that you need, you can write off the panini. Yeah, tell them the stickers, give them the money and they send them out to you.

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And that's exactly what he did. But he made an error. He must have misspelled or forgot that he didn't have Alan Sutter. I believe it's the name of Switzerland. So he was left one hour. Absolute fucking nightmare for him. So he went in to tell his pal Frazier about it. Frazier only had it in his book, so he carefully cut it out and gave it to James to enable him to complete his book.

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Now that's good, pals, is it? That's good pals to give it to him. But, it's a bit cheeky, right. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz he's. You can't get it from your pack that you bought from the shop. You can't send off a panini to get ones you missing. And you don't get the part. If you can't do it, you don't complete it.

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That's life. You can't just treat your way around it. Oh, did I, did I ever tell you I have to? I have to have this. I'm going to fucking tell it again because it's relevant in Milton Keynes. Merlin stickers was based here in on Crown Hill Industrial Estate, and I don't know how we found out, but it all went round school.

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That's where they were. And this is how you can get stickers now. They used to throw away loads of stickers in a skip and I think they threw them away because of imperfections. Now if it was on the guillotine where it was being cut and it's slightly scuffed, yeah, that's why they would throw them away. And we knew this.

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So off grabbers we would go to this skip jump into this skip and we would start stealing all these stickers and then we'd run away. And every time someone got caught, there was a bully in our school and his name was Steven Powell. And every time we got caught, there'd be like, we'd be running away. What's your name?

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Well, I was Steven Bow and then run away. And loads of people did this right, because that's the tactic that we told Steven Powell went to go and collect stickers. When he got caught, they said, what's your name? And he said, Steven Powers. So they grabbed him, took him into the office and he got fucking done for I, the bastard, poor bastard.

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We, we spoke previously about Spotify comments. They're coming back on. They're off technical issues with them. They are now back on. Are they really. We could we we can receive and reply to all your comments on the each episode. So where you see on Spotify, if you go to the episode, you scroll down, it says is this on phone?

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On phone, Jack is on a desktop app and it's nothing there, nothing there, nothing on the desktop. All on mobile app. Okay. And if you go there and you leave a comment, we can reply to your comment. We can add stuff into shows. We can answer your questions on the show. Yeah. There is yellow and you go, right, that's it.

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So if you want to send us in the question yeah. You know and it's good, we'll we'll read it goes to Spotify. That'll help that that'll fuckin bring us up the chart. Surely not today I'm listening. Yeah. Just it loads of comments for for the penultimate time British Podcast Awards Listeners Choice Awards. If you could find it in your heart to go to British Podcast awards.com/voting, type out lads anonymous info, submit and then confirming your email.

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That would be hugely appreciated. Now time is running out. It runs out the 29th of August. So please, if you're thinking about doing it, you haven't got round to doing it. You just love us. Just fucking get that vote in. And it would be we would love you forever. Now Flav. What are we talking about today? Sharks?

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No. When are we talking about sharks? Less in two weeks. All right. What are we talking about? America. America? Fuck. Yeah!

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Save the motherfucking day. Yeah, I did, like, some slight. I mean, when I say slight. Research a couple of paragraphs. So in October. Well, October 12th, 1492, when the Italian explorer Christopher Columbus officially set foot in the Americas and claimed the land for Spain, now it was, they claimed the land for Spain, not Italian kind. It was Spain.

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Why don't they all speak Spanish? And then I read the second sentence and it said British colonization of the Americas early 17th century. Sorry about that. But, Yeah. Interesting. No, I did wonder why they, I mean, it is it is obvious why the why they speak English, isn't it really? Is it? Well, I mean, Britain colonized like three quarters of the world.

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So yeah, we would have bet we would have bet. Right. Show me another empire as good as other one. Oh, wait, oh, wait. What might the Mongolian Empire. That. That was a good one, right? That's for you, right? This Rome is pretty good as well. Yeah, that was good. That did a lot of good. That is. This is the thing.

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Like you have a conversation, you speak to someone who is sort of slightly left leaning. Empires are fucking awful. All the slaves and everything. Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it was a bad. But. Yes, but, I wouldn't be proud of if I was a part of the Empire, right? Yeah. Yeah, but we do have straight roads and aqueducts and aqueducts in those shits and penicillin across the world.

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Let's just have a sensible conversation about it rather than, you know, just slinging arrows. I it's like point scoring. Now I want to first of all say that this is a podcast about America. Fuck yeah. We know we're not going to be talking about gun control, abortion, Trump, all that stuff. We're just going to be coming at an angle from two British guys, from one who's been to America twice and one who has never been to America.

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Okay. So there's not going to be any like I mean, there might be some, you know, mudslinging, but it's not it's all friendly England versus America and what we know everything that's wrong with it. I do think we should go through some stereotypes. So Rick. Oh for sure, for sure, for sure 100%. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well let's at least five stereotypes that we think and I wonder if American listeners are going to tell us whether they're true or not.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely up for going. I'm like your knowledge of America. I think most British, not that where they get their knowledge from of America who haven't. Yeah. News. Yeah. Media. Yeah. Film, books, TV series. Is there any kind of TV series or films where you like that is. That's my America as a British British man growing up.

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So yeah, I understand what sort of growing up watching stuff. Yeah.

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Wow. I tell you what, there is, there is a there is a, there is a photograph of me when I'm about three years old and the background Dallas is, you remember Dallas? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. De de de de de de de de de de de de J yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So there was a kind of growing up with that.

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It was, it was in the household in, in I think, I think America was in our household in a way that perhaps Britain wasn't in their household. Yeah. So yeah, we and as a kid, you're always kind of really impressed by stuff that was from America. Yeah. Like my wife talks about this kid. He was from America.

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It went to their school in Devizes, and he was like a fucking celebrity. You imagine he claimed he was getting gassed left, right and center. I always I always had a dream like this dream that I would go to America and I would be in a, you know, a go to college there or like at their high schools.

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And I would be this British kid that could play football amazingly and I'd get all the birds. But I mean, like I said, this is one of the kind of myths around it is that you Englishmen go to America and just clean up slate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, if I was in, I wasn't in a loving relationship and I was absolutely desperate like that.

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If I was upset, if I wanted a banker, apparently, you know, not that perhaps not New York, but going into some of the sort of areas that are less touristy. Yeah. If you can survive all the serial killers and whatnot, you might get some, friends. Obviously, growing up with friends, friends was like, that was. That was key.

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I yeah, yeah, yeah, I like the me friends put New York on the map for me. Like. No, no, not to say that nobody had heard of New York before that I never really visited, but it was so prevalent in our lives growing up at that time. Yeah, that, everything about New York was in friends, and we were watching it, and it was just all up in my all up in my grew The Simpsons again that that brought a lot of, America to, to our shores.

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I always remember cheers as well. I didn't read enough cheers as Roseanne as well. Roseanne one is good, but cheers, cheers, cheers was amazing. Like, yeah, you could go back and start from from from the beginning now and watch you watch. Cheers. It still holds up. It's fantastic. So funny. Yeah. Sam Malone, come on. I used to watch, full House.

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It's a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember my first proper crush on, when I was a kid? Hey. Oh, man, a car, remember? Boy Meets World? Oh, yeah. It was Bird and Boy Meets World was. It was their name Topanga? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fuck, yeah. It's weird, though, because, like, obviously I was a kid then.

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Yeah. I can't really make that noise now because it's a bit weird. And if you think about it. No, not really. I just remember the energy when we were kids, you know? Oh, my God, I'm in love. Yeah. That's how my too, because a Nickelodeon over here as well. When we got Nickelodeon it was like, shit man, this is like an MTV.

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It was it was mad. It was actually like you'd go around people's houses because they had enough money to get cable, cable, Nickelodeon and MTV around the house would be Sky B, wasn't it? That was what we had. So my dad. So one of the things that was great about my dad when I was a kid is that he had to have all this shit like, yeah, to have cable, you had to have Laserdisc.

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He had to have, you know, DVDs and CDs. When they when it all came out, you had to have. Yeah, we had the first Sony Walkman. My dad had the first Sony Walkman in, that that came out is a blue cassette, player and with orange headphones, tiny headphones on a metal strip, if you remember. Nice.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had the first CD player released by Sony with Sony Discman. Like, we I was so lucky because I could just eventually when he stopped using them, I would use them and, so, so on cable, you got access to MTV. And then it was like an it was like an eye opening to culture and youth culture in America.

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Yeah. Amazing. And it's actually like further to that, Ricky, hip hop massively influence. How have you heard about America? Yeah, cuz Curtis went from Will Smith to Eminem to Dre and then the rest is history. You just expand probably DMX after that. Biggie two packs that learned about geographical regions and rivalries and that was massive, massively influential for me as a kid as well.

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Music I didn't yeah, I didn't even think about that. My, my, my crushes growing up. Sabrina the Teenage witch, loved, absolutely loved, two blonds. Still, still love her. And who was the other one? There was, there was this program I used to watch saved by the Bell. That. Yeah, that was a banger by the.

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Those out of three. Did you have a crush? Was Lisa. That was Jesse, I think. And then there was Kelly. Yeah. Kelly. I always thought she had a bit of a moon phase. What? Yeah, but Kelly basket, I'll say. Yeah, I, I live in for Lisa. Lisa, I always liked it when Lisa and, Zack got it on, but it was,

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It was Berkeley. What was the name? I remember Jessica Berkeley. Yeah. Yeah. Elizabeth. Elizabeth Berkley may, when she did showgirls, that was like a dream for me. I'm like, oh, so showgirls is ridiculous, right? It's a stupid film. But but, like, obviously it's all about sex. And I was like, oh, my God, saved by the bell bad and ran in a pole.

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As for me, I love that at that war, that tape to death, actually, that reminds me of, God, we just sound like dirty old men. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is America. This is what America has done. But this is what this is the content you love sent. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So when I was a kid growing up, my first bit of, pornographic material that someone had given me was a postcard of Pamela Anderson, and she.

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Baywatch in it. She had her looks out. And where the where the end. The bottom of the postcard bismol top, top of the pube line. It was just enough to get your imagination going. And I remember that as being the gateway as to say, well, yeah, this is what you want. I'm definitely straight. Yeah, I had these.

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I had these playing cards that had nudes on them. And, one of them was Pamela Anderson. I think I've got I'm actually, I'm, I'm from Maxim magazine. I had a plane. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm like the hottest girl. 100 women like you probably wouldn't have this now in the modern age, with where it's a bit more sort of sensitive to.

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Yeah. The way they portray women and I objectify them and whatnot. But there was I think there's Maxim magazine that was one of my go tos and that it was just a lads mag. It wasn't it wasn't smut, but they had a it gave a free gift on the, on the top and it was like 52 cards of the 50, 50 hottest women in.

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I remember Maxim. Yeah. So Sabrina the Teenage Witch was once which is. But it was, it was that tiny suggestion of Mayfair. Yeah. That made that image more incredible. Maybe they should bring that back. Maybe the world's gone mad. Rick. The world is. It's too dirty now, grubby. You can access anything. But I could turn this conversation off right now and find the worst shit in the world.

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And I wouldn't even have to. I wouldn't even have to move, Rick. I wouldn't even have to move an inch apart from my arm or move my arm a bit, am I? Yeah. Oh, just open I. What's up? Great. Hey. Anything? Any minute you can find the worst fucking shit. And that's that isn't healthy. When we were kids, yeah, we were looking at a tiny bit of muff hair, frou frou.

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Yeah. It brought in. It was. Well, it was through some, some knickers as well. It wasn't even like. Yeah, it wasn't even like a skin. No. And that's all it needed. Take me back your imagination. Great. Yeah. That's why kids brains are going to. They have to imagine. Do you mind these anymore? I don't think there's a kid on a person under 25.

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That's not a mind at all. Probably neither I. Yeah, you're right, they got that. But now that is a scary thought. That is a bloody scary fucking generation of perverts. When I was growing up, I think American Pie, all the films, I love them, fucking love them. That was one of the things that was my portrayal of America, especially high school and college.

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That's what happened in in America, across America. Why didn't we? We like why don't we drop them now? I know, so weird. In my secondary school we actually did have lockers, but they were very small and it was like when you go into it was like lockers, like when you were going swimming. But no, it wasn't the cool lockers that they have where you can stuff the nerds in and also like put stickers all over it and leave messages to each other.

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Yeah. None of that. None of that, not that. Proms. What the fuck is a prom? We never even had those. They have now. My daughter went one this year. Exactly. But we never got from. No. But then. 000 boys school. What would that have been? Oh, that would have been. Yeah, that would've been weird, I think. Well, in my secondary school, we had a prom.

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I did, yeah. I didn't go to it. My me and my mates. We got a hotel room and got loads of booze and other stuff and we stayed there. And then they had the afterparty back there. So we didn't actually go to the prom the fucking last. Yeah. Exactly. What? So how old were you? 16. 16? Yeah, yeah.

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16. Yeah. What do you say? What other stuff. What what would you what were you looking about with back then? Actually it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't even. It wasn't all stuff. This bit weed, bit weed and, some massive cigars. So. Yeah. Amazing. I actually I remember that because someone was sitting on the bed chatting to someone, and I sat around with this cigar, and I put it in his back by accident, and I remember him jumping out.

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Fucking brilliant. Amazing. The, stereotypical things. Yeah. Of when you're watching him films about America. New York is one that always sticks in my head. The manholes with steam coming up from them. Like, what's that about? Why don't we have that? Yeah, I don't know. What's the steam about. Well, we'll take no. Why is there like. I don't get it.

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I don't know I've ever seen films. Always in films. Yellow taxis. Well, yeah. Yellow taxes are everywhere. That's like black cars in London. It. You can understand that. Yeah. So yeah, I yeah I, I think it is, it is that, is it just in New York they have yellow taxis. I don't know, don't know. Italian-Americans sign. Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah. Oh. Oh yeah. You know, what about, you know, some of the more sort of edgy stereotypes, like, they're all fat, right? Okay. That, I mean, that you've just gone ten toes there, so. Yeah. There is. Yeah. Is that is that is that real? Because from our perspective over here, it's like, yes. All of like not all of them.

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But it's like, I don't know, 80% of people are really overweight. And it's because when you go to a diner or something, you eat a mountain of food. Is that true? Because that's what that's what people generally believe here. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. It's the the fast food culture in America now. They have way more, many way more chains than we do of different burger joints.

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You know, everything. And I remember that I, when I was out there, I was getting sick and tired of ordering food and it been this massive mountain of a plate coming. And I was just I was so embarrassed that when I said I'd finish and the waitress would look at me in disgust as to say, you've taken three bites out of that burger and eaten four chips I had.

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I'd done my best, but there was still so much food. And and then I thought, you know what I've got? I've got a fucking idea. I'm just gonna order a starter because I'll be able to finish the starter and I won't be like a dick. So all the chicken wings, they, they brought round and it was literally like a hot tub size of chicken wings.

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This is. And I was like, what am I. What? How is anyone gonna eat that. So I always say, I'm going to eat that. This is true for you then. So. So when you ordered, it was 100%. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. The portion size is, insane. And I think that and night we went to we did that.

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We went to 7-Eleven and got a Big gulp. And like, when we're talking about, like I'm saying, is a big cup of drink. Yeah, a big, big cup of, Gatorade or fucking Mountain Dew or Coke, whatever it might be. But the size of it, it was insane. Like, no one needs to have a drink that big and of fizzy, but we.

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Everything's getting smaller here. But you you don't get anywhere near what we used to get for our food. The size of a Big Mac is smaller. The my I, like, I lost it the other day because I got out one of, a packet of crisps opened up. There's, like, six crisps. I was fucking livid. Well, the the variety of crisps.

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You can get. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you can. It's so hang on a minute. This is great timing because we don't want to forget. Yeah. Right. Okay. All right. So you mentioned but it was Aldi that you went and got those variety packs. Yeah it was yeah. Yeah. And it was their fake phrases. And there were six in there.

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And I was just like, I know it's done by way. All right, fine. But six crates. Come on, man, but you but you're scrimping by pretzels and you'll get the what you want. Yeah, but what you know, but it's not more expensive. I'm not a Christian. Give me this. Oh. It's economy. Yeah, I know, I know, I can.

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Yeah. Okay. But to me it was. And now I will address. So if anyone that listens to, you know, I mean everyone will be listening to the flying Coke. We did Flav did an episode yesterday and I was supposed to be on it, but he didn't tell me what time we were recording. So when he said, are you ready to jump on?

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Yeah, I was in the middle of my food. My bad. Right. That's that's cool. Shit happens. And he said, someone said, where have you been? And I listed where I'd been for my food job. Yeah, I went to my big supermarket, but I wouldn't mind. Most people just went, I'm just I'm just shopping. That's. That would have been the end of it.

00:30:03:09 – 00:30:21:03
Oh, you didn't food shop. The big shop. Yeah. Really doesn't do that. Yes. To give you the breakdown of what he's doing. He does this all the time. Even when you're going to go. Me? When we can watch shows together, he'll send me an itinerary of exactly when he's leaving his house, when he's getting the train, when he's getting his food to the minute.

00:30:21:03 – 00:30:34:21
And I'm like, I don't need to know that, Rick. But it's I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Let's just tell me when we meet and what time. I don't need to know if we stop on the way to meeting me, but I appreciate is quite nice. I mean, it's quite a lovely, lovely thing that you do, but this was mental.

00:30:34:23 – 00:31:00:07
Yeah. So. And the reason is there's a few reasons here. Now, why not do the bake shop? Yeah, I do go to a variety of supermarkets because an Aldi you can get my stuff but they just don't do everything. And in Tesco's it's far too expensive. So I just do like I do a circuit now I just come back from holiday and what I like to do before we go on holiday, let's eat everything in our freezer.

00:31:00:07 – 00:31:20:04
So if I'm on holiday and we have a power cut, there's not loads of spoiled food left. So you eat everything in the freezer just in case there's a power pole cut. That's right. And we have some mental dinners leading up to holiday. Just trying to cobble anything together. So when I get back, there is nothing in the house and I mean nothing.

00:31:20:04 – 00:31:42:12
So I have to do a mega shop. So that's why I did that big shop and again. Yet there was just there's some items that just don't taste as good from, from other supermarkets. So I have to go to so five. So so Ricky it's almost everybody listen to this. Listen I wonder how crazy this is. Does anyone please let us know.

00:31:42:13 – 00:32:09:01
He might have said lads on on pod at gmail.com. If you do this everybody listen. This goes to one supermarket and then comes home and unpacks it because it is a laborious task. It's boring. No one really wants to do it. Get it done quickly. Yeah. Ricky goes to five supermarkets as a part of his shopping trip, one of which to buy one item which is ketchup.

00:32:09:03 – 00:32:27:16
Where do you go to buy ketchup? Asda. So. Well. Oh, so he'll drive it? Probably make a at least supermarkets. How close together, Ollie? All I get to to the supermarkets are very close to each other so that's. Well actually three of the supermarkets are close to each other. Like within a couple of minute walk. So you're walking.

00:32:27:18 – 00:32:47:21
You're walking between supermarkets. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Go. You shop in everything. Just walk into the market. Yeah yeah yeah. And you'll go to, you'll go to a as the just to buy a bottle of ketchup. That's right. Yeah. Because the one in Aldi and Lidl, it's got a little bit of an aniseed twang to it which I'm not down with stock I sell, they sell, they sell some.

00:32:47:21 – 00:33:11:12
They sell Hines in Aldi. Yeah. But that's like that's like designer designer for shopping food. Not doing that, man. Not spending that money. Do you not have you got any branded food at home or is it all no frills Aldi stuff? Pretty much all no froze. There's a few a few items like a brown sauce that is that pretty.

00:33:11:13 – 00:33:32:19
That is that is is like an inferior sauce. You're doing the same time. I know it's good. It's good. He's over HP. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So what ketchup are you buying from outside. Says home brand. Yeah yeah. He does like the taste. Yeah yeah yeah so I can't. There's not much difference in Sainsbury's home brand, which is like 90 pea and Heinz ketchup which is about fucking £3.

00:33:32:21 – 00:33:53:07
But there you go. Yeah, there isn't much difference there to be fair. And we do go to Aldi as well because there isn't a great deal of difference. But when it comes to frazzle, clearly you're being fucked over. Yeah. So, so over the years, this according to Business Insider, over the years, my significant observation that has been, that the US has much more substantial portion sizes than the rest of the world.

00:33:53:09 – 00:34:17:06
There are too many fast food chains, too, including one less. So we'll cover only a few bigger chains. To give you an idea of the difference we've seen over the years. So they kind of look at McDonald's, KFC, subway and they weigh them Domino's level and it's just massive. And don't look at them go, I want my fucking Domino's to be gigantic.

00:34:17:08 – 00:34:43:21
I think it's well, in America. And there is with the food, standards, it's different to the UK. So we have like sugar tax. Yeah. And you know, allowed to use different, like chemicals, whatever they use in America, you can and I think that has caused some of the health issues that they have out there.

00:34:43:24 – 00:35:03:07
Don't like being told what to do do they. Nah, nah, I think they can't take the sugar and you can't take the guns. No freedom of speech and land of hope and glory. It's the constitutions of which the country is formed on. Right ten. How many live in the American Dream? Anyone can come to America and do whatever.

00:35:03:09 – 00:35:26:15
How many amendments are there? 12. Is that right? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I that I have my obsession sounds all right. Yeah. Is it, is there any places that you would like to visit in America if there are any places where you're like, do you know? Well, when I try, because I've heard you say before that when you are a little bit older, the kids are way older.

00:35:26:15 – 00:35:44:01
You would like to travel, you like to behave. I want to get in a bit of culture around you and a bit of, I want to get in a car. Ricky from. And as soon as I get there, get in the car and start driving. Well, in America, yeah, just drive across the whole continent. The whole whole America.

00:35:44:03 – 00:36:08:00
All America. Maybe down to down Central America. Is there any place that. In a Cadillac. Oh, yeah. But since it's so like they you look deep. Like, obviously people are critical of of America and the way they're portrayed in that. But the dream of mine and it's so cliched would be to just get there, hire kind of a Winnebago.

00:36:08:02 – 00:36:38:11
I'd quite like to do that as well. Oh they've now that haven't they. The mobile home. Yeah they certainly have when I went to so my very first trip to America, my mate parents had moved out to Portland, Oregon, Maine, 3rd May we've said my, flew to Seattle and then we went to Portland, Oregon, and we were going to do a three week, travel experience of the West Coast of America.

00:36:38:13 – 00:37:00:04
So we're going to start off in Portland, Oregon. Then I think we went I think we stayed in a place called Salem or something, and then we went to San Francisco, and then we went to L.A., and then we did the whole route back. Now, when we were going, it was under under that proviso that his dad was giving us his Ford Focus that he had there to travel.

00:37:00:06 – 00:37:27:08
And when we were leaving, he said, he go here the keys and tossed the keys to his son. And his son caught the keys and said, oh, dad, you've given me the wrong keys. You've given me the keys to your Mitsubishi Spyder convertible. Wow. He said, yeah. He said, yeah, and I have a fun time, lads. So we were in a droptop fucking convertible, cruising down the highway for miles and miles, not seeing anyone.

00:37:27:10 – 00:37:50:06
All this land. Where was you, Ricky? So we were so at that point, I think we were. So it was Portland, Oregon. And we drove all the way down to. And I in there just traveling, just knocking about. So you just thought I'm going to go in holiday to America. So his parents had recently moved out there. His dad got a job in Portland, Oregon and Salem.

00:37:50:08 – 00:38:05:20
So we went over to see. How did you afford that? 19 I don't know. I don't know how it all came about. I really can't recall. It's like me when I went to Turkey at 16, I can't remember what the fuck. Yeah, no, I have no idea. My mom must have sorted me out with mom, and dad must have sought me out with money.

00:38:05:20 – 00:38:27:06
And I was not. Had a bit of money, but I had, an amazing, an amazing time. My best friend is single at the time, Rick. No, I wasn't nice and I know an apartment on that. And, no, not none of that. And I should have broke up with broke up. But just before you left, then I know, I know, in hindsight, I really should have done.

00:38:27:08 – 00:38:52:14
The best place that I went to was San Francisco and San Francisco. It has the heat, but it also has the green, and it has a bit of like history and heritage to it. And it was just a beautiful place, chilled people, and it had a lot. And I'll have to come clean about this as well, because when I went there, the Alcatraz is there and everyone said, did you do Alcatraz?

00:38:52:14 – 00:39:13:05
And I was like, yeah, of course I did. I went to San Francisco. I didn't do Alcatraz. I could see it from the yeah, I did. Yeah. Yeah, it just came. It just came out. Just came out. Yeah. Just said I did it. I've got loads of photos of it in the distance, but it was all booked up, booked up for two weeks and no one told me you have to book in advance, so fuck that, I would, you thought.

00:39:13:07 – 00:39:40:05
Yeah. Oh for sure man. Fuck. You know, that'd be cool. It a man so waste a half a day these of these are the free places. If I ever get to America that I would want to visit. And it's not your normal, you know, it's off the beaten track. So the first one is the Ohio State Reformatory in Mansfield, Ohio.

00:39:40:07 – 00:40:10:14
That is the building where Shawshank Redemption was filmed. The prison, fantastic. Absolutely insane. Building and architecture. Wood, actually. Apparently they do. Ghost. Ghost. Tourist things there. Now you have to stay in that for for a night. Yeah, I bet it would hit me up. The second is Stadium High School in Tacoma, Washington. You know, it was filmed there.

00:40:10:15 – 00:40:14:24
Know ten things I hate about you.

00:40:15:01 – 00:40:44:11
Right. Fantastic. Again. Architecture. Stunning. You you you on about ten things I hate about you. Yeah. The school ledger. Yeah. I haven't thought about Julia Stiles. She, Julia Stiles is another one for me as well. All right, what's preferred one third one anywhere in the Deep South. Now, the there's a lot of different perceptions on what qualifies as a Deep South.

00:40:44:12 – 00:41:19:01
And I'll give you one guy. Did Lee du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. For sure. So Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia maybe South Carolina, basically. It's all because of my experience with Forrest Gump, one of the greatest films ever. And it's so to go to those places would be so alien to me because it's like New York.

00:41:19:01 – 00:41:44:19
It's like, you know, it's similar to London. Massive city, very calm. I'm not I'm not. Oh, no. I'd want to see authentic America. I want to see America. Exactly. I want yeah, yeah, yeah. So those are the places I would love to go. What about you if you got it? So it's just just driving around America. Just get in the car.

00:41:44:19 – 00:42:12:10
Yeah. No. Buddy ranch in Nevada. What's that? That. You know, Naia. So the bunny ranch is like an historical monument to quintessential America, is it? Yeah, yeah, it's like, if you want to understand the just what it means to be American, you have to go to the bunny ranch. I had no idea. I've got no idea what that is.

00:42:12:12 – 00:42:32:11
I mean, you you Google it and you find out and you will you will maybe go together. He take the wife. Do you know what? Do you know what? There is nothing more. Then I would love to get on a flight, actually, to getting on the plane with you and go into space. Be. That would be the worst thing about life, that the fun after that wouldn't sit near each other.

00:42:32:16 – 00:42:50:09
Or just when I have a kid. We can. You'd go into that first class and not be in economy. I mean, I'd be sitting where the luggage is, right? You, I'll be in front of you, like 4 or 5 rows in front of, you know, every now and all, all you'll see is my hands going, yeah. Like it's because I think we're falling out of sky.

00:42:50:09 – 00:43:14:18
That's what people see. What I think I've got. Oh, when I, when I was in, Spain, quickly I went down a waterslide and the waterslide was called kamikaze. I. So we didn't talk about it simply. No, we didn't. And honestly, I've been to waterparks before and I've been on big slides before, and yeah, it's high as far as the spanking, the rah rah rah.

00:43:14:20 – 00:43:39:02
This was different. This was so high. And when you got up the top, the wind was whistling through your ears. And when you look down the slide like you were looking down the slide, but you couldn't see going down the slide because it was so steep. It's just like you just spray in your face. Yeah, obviously. But when you're looking down to go down and she says go, it's like, where do I jump to?

00:43:39:02 – 00:44:04:15
Because it's like virtually vertical, like, how am I going to get any connection with this slide? And I tell you what, I made noises going down that slide that I did I never knew was in my body. Right. Yeah, I like it was the noise that I would make if I was dying. It was the noise I would make if I was on the tight end.

00:44:04:19 – 00:44:22:18
And then I realized I was plummeting towards the seabed, mate, I had the exact same thing. The same stitch, and I'm so embarrassed. It's our age, Ricky. I think because when I was a kid, you hold it down, right? If so, we. So I went to Aquila. What is it? Aquila. And I think it's called in near Benidorm.

00:44:22:20 – 00:44:41:20
Yeah, I, I think it is. Yeah. That's right. And there's. Yeah. And as soon as you get into it on your right hand side, anyone, there'll be those people listening who have been there right on the right hand side. There is what, what I looked at and thought, that is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. It is two slides, this green one, which is the highest.

00:44:41:20 – 00:44:57:00
And then there's a red one which is about 30ft below it. And you walk up the steps and a walk up was bad enough because it's all your bare feet. You got your just trunks. You know what I'm talking about, right? Then I did, and you can see over the side the the railing and the slats, and it gets quite high.

00:44:57:00 – 00:45:15:14
And that's uncomfortable in itself. So that bit that's about as bad as the slide you get there. And then I'm with my boy Will and I'm like he's like, should we go up to the top one I was on there. Come this is this one's fine. This is fine. And I was like, you go first, will. So what it is, is just a capsule, right?

00:45:15:14 – 00:45:29:15
You get into the capsule and there is a trapdoor, but if you fit the open, it's one of them. One. One of them ones. Oh, my. Did you do that? Yeah, I did it because. Oh, you filthy pig! Though, is.

00:45:29:17 – 00:45:46:24
Will went first. I couldn't not do it. I didn't want to do it. I wanted to go that walked down the stairs. I saw Will go and I'm like, fuck that. But I can't not go. Can't you can't pussy out in that. Not, not when you boys I can't exactly. I did exactly the same. My daughter was next to me.

00:45:47:01 – 00:46:10:04
The woman looked at us and said, go. And I looked at my door. I said, I don't think I can do this. She said, don't worry, dad, it's okay. Just walk back down. You'll be fine. And after she said that, she just slid down again and I was like looking at, going down and thinking, I can't, I can't just not, I can't walk down, I can't, I can't think I would never look at you in the same way.

00:46:10:06 – 00:46:29:19
So I just grabbed the pole and just walk. It's a waterside wreck. Nothing's going to happen. And as soon as I slid down, let go, and I started falling through the air, the noises that were coming out was like I was on fire or something. I erred, there is fucking. And they say, you got across your legs. My legs are going everywhere.

00:46:29:19 – 00:46:48:03
I had no control over what I was doing. It felt like I was being born again or something like that. Fucking my mate Rick. I had the same thing. And, the in this slide, when this trapdoor went there was about it felt like 5 or 6 seconds, but it's probably about a second where you're actually free falling.

00:46:48:03 – 00:47:10:04
So you're falling. Yeah, yeah. And then eventually you make contact with the slide. My missy said the noise I made, she'd never heard before. You are. You can't wait. Next. You see, I ask her about this. You cannot not make noise. This is the thing. This is. It's like you. You think you can control it? You cannot not make the noise you're making.

00:47:10:04 – 00:47:31:09
It's involuntary. It's almost like air escaping your body. Oh. Like that? Yeah, mate. And I come out of it. And I was like, whoa. It was like, again, I'm never doing that again in my life. I hated every minute of that day. I felt like I've been rushed by the end of the day. At the end. Yeah, I feel like I've been rushed by ten men.

00:47:31:14 – 00:48:06:24
My body was a bit slow. The wind. I was getting battered. Fuck it up my left. Well, for the, duvet. Now to get back on to, America. We have a couple of, actually, first of all, one of the things I do want to address is the kind of customer service in America in comparison to British culture right now, it's very in your face in America.

00:48:07:01 – 00:48:25:12
How are you, sir? How are you doing? What you've been up to. Can I get you anything else? Should we do this for you? Can I take you back? Can I do this in Britain? It's not. We don't talk to each other. We don't like that. We will. Your next door neighbor could walk past you in the morning, and you don't even say hello to them.

00:48:25:12 – 00:48:40:11
But in the cities in the country, it's different countryside. Yeah. And the kind of countries, different cities. You don't do that. And even in Milton Keynes I wouldn't particularly my neighbor. Yeah. Other people that I know on the street, I'd still just walk past them like say to you, hello, hello, Rick. And you'd be like, what the fuck do you want?

00:48:40:11 – 00:49:21:09
You pedophile? Get the fuck away from me! Exactly that. And, busses, public transport, trains. We don't turn around and say, where are you off to today? What you up to? And stuff like that. And in America, it's very different. They are very, extroverted. They, very positive, quite loud, very different. And I think the clip that, Flav is going to play for you in a second is, is Jack white, whose father and he is saying about his experience in America when he gets customer service.

00:49:21:09 – 00:49:30:24
And I think this sums it up for a lot of Brits. So you're going to hear that now.

00:49:31:01 – 00:49:54:11
Is your day. And I think, fuck off. I, I'm going to play like you're talking about. How was my day? My day has got absolutely nothing to do with you. There's all that. Oh hi. How is your day? I know, I think. Fuck off. What are you talking about? How was my day? My day has gone absolutely nothing to do with you.

00:49:54:13 – 00:50:27:01
Yeah. That's it. It's. I, I, I don't even like it when I'm having food. And at the waitress comes back and checks if the is nice. I would rather be in a pile of fucking dog shit. Yeah, and finish it before respond to that question. Genuinely. Yeah mate. It's not like you got you've got your first bit of, steak in your mouth and, you know, you junior, how is the meal for you to have a plate?

00:50:27:03 – 00:50:45:24
You can see it's a man. Fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Right. Oh, fuck. Oh, I'm going to eat and I'm going to pay for it. What do you what do you want my opinion for? This is what we do in England. We don't. If it's bad, we're not going to complain. We're just gonna eat it and never come back again and maybe post something on social media to get it free.

00:50:45:24 – 00:51:05:17
Like meal out of the afterwards. Wait until my wait until my knife and fork is a 12 and six on the plate. And then you ask me how my meal was. I'm finished. Then it's a it's not. You're not getting useful feedback either. You're not getting useful feedback. What are you going to take my feedback in and change everything you do?

00:51:05:18 – 00:51:21:24
No. You know you're just going to carry on and eventually you'll go out of business and that's how you'll learn. You've done something wrong. It's not it's not interrupting. My meal is not going to save your business or make it any better. You just fuck like so. So the school check back. So my missus works in this industry.

00:51:22:01 – 00:51:44:19
Oh, okay. So she's completely understanding and accepting of it and thinks customer service is really important and especially in the catering industry, which she's a part of. So she understands it. And when she's what she's like. Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares, which I love even the same show every fucking week. Brilliant. Just can't I can't stop watching it. And it's always just some daddy fucked.

00:51:44:19 – 00:52:03:18
Everyone's got bored and fat, and he just sits in his room playing golf on his phone, and the older kids are working for him. I love it, be more fucked up, more fucked up the next episode to see an even more fucked up than that guy. The, my missus understands it, and it's like, a, it's a part.

00:52:03:18 – 00:52:20:21
It's called check backs. So we have to do it as a part of the, the process. The it's not the waitress is genuinely asking whether or not everything's all right. They can give a shit. They don't want to do it. Yeah, yeah. Usually a company is a big company. It's a courtesy to check back. Some of them do come back to you twice to ask.

00:52:20:22 – 00:52:45:19
To ask me too much. Yeah, man, I'm going to eat it. And if it's shit, I'm never coming back here again. That's the thing. Yeah. I think in America as well, because of the tipping culture, you have to be honest with your customers to say, how are you doing? You having a nice day, blah, blah, blah, so that there's that bit of a rapport with them so that you'll give them more money in their tip.

00:52:45:19 – 00:53:09:16
I think that's that's why they do it. But for a Brit, it's a very different culture over here. Now, before we end this segment, we have had a voice note that's been sent in and they have listed the three best things about America, or the three things that mean something to them. And you're going to hear that voice note right now.

00:53:09:18 – 00:53:36:08
Okay, Ricky, my friend, here are the top three things that the United States of America has contributed to the overall enjoyment of the human race. All right. And to in order to not be too controversial, here I am leaving out iced tea and iced coffee and all Thanksgiving foods because I guess we're not ready to go there. All right, in no particular order, US national parks, national state parks.

00:53:36:08 – 00:53:58:16
There's like over 60 of them. And you can do anything there. There are some that are great for fishing, some for hiking, some for camping, some that are wheelchair accessible. I mean, when I was lived in California, that's all anyone ever did was go to, state parks. The second thing is all the Disney parks. There's two Disney's in the United States.

00:53:58:16 – 00:54:21:09
There's one in Orlando, Florida, which is Disney World. It is a masterpiece. If you can ever get there, you will not regret it. It's unbelievable and totally worth the effort. And there's also the original Disneyland, which is in, Anaheim, California, which is, which is good, but it's it's not Disney World. It's kind of just exactly like Disneyland Paris, except more calorically dense, you know, food.

00:54:21:11 – 00:54:44:00
And the third thing is, you know how America, we love the Star-Spangled banner, the national anthem, the only rendition of this song that anyone ever needs to hear is Whitney Houston. 1991, July 4th, Star-Spangled banner. All right, I'm going to attached to this email for your listening pleasure. It will give you chill. It gives me chills every time.

00:54:44:04 – 00:55:05:05
We never need to hear any other version of it. Any other offensively song version. All right. So you know come come visit. We love visitors and we love the Brits. And and yeah okay.

00:55:05:07 – 00:55:28:14
Okay. So, National parks. We've got national parks. Yes I got like probably bad news. I like pretty bad. Yeah. So so someone else emailed in about national parks and when they started saying about they understand that Europe also has national parks and loads of places to go and stuff like that. In America, you don't need a passport to go to their national parks.

00:55:28:20 – 00:55:52:14
And they also said our some of our national parks are bigger than your country. Immediately got my back up. Yeah, yeah. Well I'm not I'm not someone imagine went yeah. So so what is to Americans banging on about national parks. National parks, National parks are a big thing. Yeah. Some part of Yellowstone National Park. Yeah. We've got this lakes.

00:55:52:14 – 00:56:17:14
That's a national park in Croatia. But it's better than your bloody national parks. Yeah. It's massive. You've got loads of land. That's not a flex. It's just massive loads and lots. So Russia, you never hear a Russian person banging on about how big their countries dwarfs America's, ginormous Disney. Okay, this now give you that I absolutely do love to take my kids to remember that me as a kid.

00:56:17:16 – 00:56:39:01
So so, so Disneyland adverts would come on and you could send off for a VHS tape, which is like a promo tape, a free one. It comes in the post and you'd send off for it and you'd see ABC. Is it sales marketing? So they send a kid or a kid or is it online? Plugs it and then it can, and then it's like a guilt trip.

00:56:39:02 – 00:56:57:16
Take your fucking kid to Disneyland. But as a kid, I remember this. Yeah, I remember this. Yeah, yeah, yeah I like as a, as a, as a kid I was like, man, I'm desperate to get to Disneyland. Are desperate. But isn't it now it's like a fucking money trap now. Right now. That's that's the the feeling from here is that Disneyland is like 100, 100%.

00:56:57:18 – 00:57:19:03
It's like kid, literally. You'd have to like ten. Yeah. It's take like 15 grand with. Yeah, yeah. But, I one day I will definitely take my family. Listen, I use the opportunity because they, my kids couldn't give a shit about Disney, but about four years ago I would definitely have gone. Yeah, I think it's way out. Ride it out, ride it out.

00:57:19:03 – 00:57:36:12
It won't you? You don't have to do it with Disney. I think it's for, It's built for all ages. No, you ride it out. Ricky, you don't have to do this. If you just wait, they'll lose interest, I promise. Okay, I'll do that. You want to go for you, don't you? You want to go? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:57:36:14 – 00:57:58:23
That means the jaws ride. It's not there anymore. Broken? Yeah. When I was. I've been on the jaws ride. Have you? Yeah. Have. Yeah. And I've got my eyes. Man. I'm so jealous. Yeah. So, my missus is by me for my birthday for jaws. Lego is all right as a 44 year old man. Yeah, it's.

00:57:58:23 – 00:58:16:06
You know what? Staring opposite me from for my for if they want. But my family bought me. Well, an Optimus Prime Lego set, but I've done it. Optimus Prime is like that big. I haven't done it. And they all say, oh, you said you were going to do that. And I'm like, look, I got things today. I will do it.

00:58:16:06 – 00:58:32:13
I'll play around. No no no no no no no. You don't have a job. You do have time to do it. I don't have a job. I do have a job. I don't have a job. Yeah, you got, you got you did. I can't get five minutes of you through your podcasting all the time. That is a job.

00:58:32:16 – 00:58:53:11
Know building houses is a job, right? Okay. I see sewer work is a job. What we do is a job. Build the fucking like. Okay. Right. Okay, I see me, I see where you're going with that. I see where you go build the Lego brick. What was the, the last the reference when the Houston. I mean, look, I said so it's the the conversation here isn't about Whitney Houston.

00:58:53:11 – 00:59:15:08
She's incredible. And go back and listen to any of her music, one of, if not the greatest female voice that we've ever heard. Right? I think she's definitely in that conversation, for sure. But the Americans obsession with their national anthem is something it's crazy mental compared to here. So there are people that do like the national anthem. Generally, beer loving lads go down football.

00:59:15:08 – 00:59:40:02
When England play. Yeah, and they're sort of proud of their country, but they probably in terms of people that are really passionate about the national anthem, probably make up 3%, 2% of the nation direction maybe for sure. Yeah. And suddenly they couldn't give a shit. My dad hates it and like under 16 football tournaments in America, they would probably do the national anthem before the their cup final.

00:59:40:02 – 01:00:09:12
Yeah, that's why I beat him. Yeah, I'm there'd probably have a like a fighter jet flyover for an under tens and well there's a couple of things on a tree or something pick you up on there. The, the national anthem in sporting events. You will not hear it in England. Apart from world title fights in boxing. You hear that if it is an international competition, if it's two Brits, you probably wouldn't hear it, right?

01:00:09:12 – 01:00:36:14
Yeah. And the national anthem of whoever we find absolutely will not be respected. It will be. They booed. Who is booed? Get the Blue Dogs out right. And then and then and then it's international. Is England playing in rugby or in, in, in football and even in rugby? I might be wrong here, but in rugby they've got other anthems that they kind of sing this ahead of the national anthem.

01:00:36:14 – 01:01:05:18
Yeah. In America, the Star Spangled Banner, is it star spangled Banner? Banner. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So so. And I just wonder where that kind of national, proud nationalism comes from. Because it's not weird. Not like that, really. No. It's very like military focused respect veterans that that type. So the respect that, that military stuff drilled into to sort of schoolkids and stuff like that to respect the military, the military, a kind of that is that's at odds with us as well.

01:01:05:18 – 01:01:26:05
Not that we yeah. Not the of disagree with it. It's just not normal here. But the military and army's never mentioned in school ever. Yeah yeah yeah. No you're right. We sometimes have the army. Army guys come and do come to the school, and then they build like an obstacle course and then maybe have, like, talk to you about the army, but it's almost taboo to convince young people to join the army.

01:01:26:05 – 01:01:50:15
Now, you know, I mean, yeah, it'll be a bit of a school to encourage people to join the Army. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that, actually. You know, you're right. Was you ever encouraged to join the Army? Yeah, I sent off. I like, I like. Yeah, I got a, a VHS tape sent to me, from the Territorial Army because I was thinking about joining, and I'm so glad that I didn't, but.

01:01:50:15 – 01:02:10:00
But would you have gone? Would you? Where did that come from? Did you do cadets or something? Did you do cadets work? Didn't they? Cadets didn't do anything like that, did Scouts? How did they find you in the Territorial Army? Fortunate. No, I, I applied to. I applied the Territorial Army. So it's like a home. Home for service.

01:02:10:00 – 01:02:38:23
It's it's not the Army. You're you're you make up a part time soldier that you might get called upon. That's right. Yeah, but it was it was a precursor to. Right. Maybe joining the Army. Right. Yeah. So you think, well, this is it. In England. It's like so generally the conversation you might get is if your son, if you said, I'm going to join the army people, the, the go to plan would be like, that's a bad idea in England in it.

01:02:39:00 – 01:02:57:12
Yeah. Which is bad because without an army would be fucked. Yeah. Yeah. But that's that's that is strange to me that kids sort of, kind of well-versed in military in the, in the US military and stuff. Yeah. And they have, like, military school. I mean, we have military schools there, but you never hear about that.

01:02:57:12 – 01:03:17:00
Yeah, I see a lot on films. If they're bad, like, AJ Soprano and Sopranos. He was she was bad at school. They're going to send them to military school. Yeah. That's it. It's trying them out. Yeah, yeah. Well of them my wife, my wife was in got quite up in the cadets and there was talk about her potentially having a career in the military.

01:03:17:02 – 01:03:36:24
Fuck. Really? Yeah. She was good at the long range rifle pull up in the cadet. She can get out at us. By the way, if it was, But there there was talk about her potentially joining it. And look, I we've I, we I did, on the No holds Barred podcast. I've mentioned a few times, I did two interviews.

01:03:36:24 – 01:04:01:02
I did one with, an, the nurse who works in the Army on the frontlines. She was out in, Afghanistan. Yeah, I remember that one. Yeah, it was good. Pod. And we did another one with a guy who he's, I can't remember. His name is. He's part of the the Spurs military support group. But his job was to gauge threats between countries.

01:04:01:02 – 01:04:21:21
Like when if there was a flyby from Russia. This is before the war flyby from Russia. How significant is that threat? What does it mean? And what is the what is the correct response to that threat? Yeah. So no, I mean so yeah, yeah, yeah. The Russian submarines going through the English Channel, that freaks me out that figure out.

01:04:21:21 – 01:04:43:11
But apparently that isn't an in the North Sea top of Scotland. Anyway, I'm rambling in that, well, that will bring us to the end of the, America chat. Now we are going to be doing a, I think we we've been running for quite some time, so I think we'll just go straight into, something 90, you know.

01:04:43:11 – 01:05:08:09
But before we do that, we'll try something a little bit different. Five so that's the topic for next week. We're going to try this out will be decided by the audience. Now I, I'm going to do a poll on lads anonymous Instagram. It's going to go out on Tuesday actually no Wednesday. We'll do the poll on the Wednesday.

01:05:08:10 – 01:05:41:20
Stop everything you're doing on Wednesday, just look out for the poll. So stop everything you do and look out for the poll. It's going to go out on Wednesday and it's going to be on our Instagram lads and on pod. I think that's what it is, what the options and the options are. Addiction. So addiction could be drugs, gambling, dick, sex, phone, whatever it might be versus near-death experiences.

01:05:41:22 – 01:06:05:22
Have you ever had them? Has you mate had them? Do you know anyone that is a survivor from a major event or incident, or have a story that connects to them? Which one would you like to hear survivors and shot at surviving shark attacks. Is that what we're talking about? Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. That could be in there.

01:06:05:24 – 01:06:27:12
Okay. Addiction or surviving an addiction. You want a near-death experience? Oh. That's cool. Oh, no. Fuck the addiction. That's morbid. If I'm having a vote, my vote is. My vote is surviving. Shit. That's what I want to talk about. But you vote however you want, but I don't. I wouldn't vote about surviving shit. So on Wednesday, I check our Instagram stories.

01:06:27:12 – 01:06:30:05
There's going to be a.

01:06:30:07 – 01:06:50:14
Near-Death experience. And you get to choose what we speak about next week. Now we are going to go on to dilemmas and something only you know. The dilemma is called a trade and something only you know is triple trouble. Now we're going to go into dilemmas. I predicted you be addicted to my dick once. You liked it. Sorry.

01:06:50:16 – 01:07:06:08
What was that? What am I supposed to be? No, I know it's.

01:07:06:10 – 01:07:32:09
Just, Just. You got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad, cause part will taste you, and I can, in your soul, alone, in your flat. Please talk to Ricky a flat bed. Let that stress off your chest when you fight the fuck back down and you're safe to get. Well, I'm not sure between Ricky and then what happened for you?

01:07:32:09 – 01:07:49:15
For talking to things and still going. Why are you doing your hands? I'm fucking dancing to it. It wasn't a thumbs. Fuck. You know? Go on then, start again. I hate this podcast. I really do.

01:07:49:17 – 01:08:12:20
Highlights. Automatic download here. I went out with my ex missus for two years until we broke up a couple of months ago. Because she cheated on me. Bitch. Obviously we have mutual friends, including my best pal I've known for most of my life. After I told friends, my best pal said that he'd give her the cold shoulder and zone her out.

01:08:12:22 – 01:08:37:23
This is a bit complicated though, since my best pals girlfriend is friends with my ex. It now turns out that there are now going on double dates with a lad that she slept with me, slept with her behind my back. Am I being totally unreasonable here? When I feel a bit betrayed by someone who I trusted? Honestly feels like I've been punched in the stomach?

01:08:37:23 – 01:08:58:10
I'm not sure what to do about it. Cheers, lads. So? So just simplify that for me. So simplified is that he was going out with a girl. Yep. She cheated on him and his best pal said I'm going to give it a cold shoulder. Yeah, I'm going to zone her out. But the problem is the ex misses his friends with his powers.

01:08:58:10 – 01:09:23:22
Girlfriend, right, right. And now the ex misses, is going on a double date with the guy she slept with, with his best pal. And like, our friend has a girlfriend, so? So he's kind of been pressurized by his girlfriend to go in a double date with his ex girlfriend, who they believe he's my ex-girlfriend and new bloke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:23:24 – 01:09:46:04
And he. And he's had to do it. He's had to go out. Does it man. He didn't have to do it. I would never do that. I'd never if not in a million years. Not in a million years. You're right to be upset. Yeah, yeah. That's that's that's the correct answer. Now, what am I gonna mate. He had he had the same issue and I gave his ex the cold shoulder.

01:09:46:04 – 01:10:05:01
And it was in a very he cheat sheet saying yeah, yeah fuck that. No. Yeah. So any similar, you know, circles that we that we rolled in and I, I did hear a bit of feedback that when she came to places where I was going to be, she was a bit I fucking was going to get rather give it a cold shoulder.

01:10:05:04 – 01:10:27:16
That's what you do. That's what mates do. You fucking loyal right. Yeah. So she's he's been he's probably been he's Mrs. is probably gonna fucking come on. But that's not on like sorry. Yeah. There's consequences for fucking cheating on your Mrs. or cheating on your or on your husband. On the partner. Yeah. And one of them is you don't get to go on dates with his best mate.

01:10:27:18 – 01:10:55:03
Yeah. That's my way. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah I'd I if I he's, he's right to have the it's about how much it's about whether or not he, he forgives him though in it. But yeah. I don't understand the full context around it. Now, his mate that the guy got cheated on, he may be going on Tinder and he could be very successful on there.

01:10:55:05 – 01:11:17:12
And he said to his mate, you, I should probably change your name to Wesley Pipes, because I've been piping up loads of birds and I've never heard my pipes before. And he might go and he might be like, oh, we see he's over here. So it's not going to matter if I go out with, the, the new guy and stuff.

01:11:17:14 – 01:11:32:15
You should have, you should have said that they should have been some communication. He knows. You know, he knows. He knows he's done wrong. He knows it. He knows it. And, I think you should pull into the side and not have it out with him as to say, why have you done that? But just say, look, man, what was this about?

01:11:32:17 – 01:11:50:19
What if you thought, well, yeah, we're boys that well, you're my best mate. Yeah, but this doesn't this ain't. This ain't on this on cricket. Yeah. And you, you've got to make that decision to say, look, you've been out of a couple of dates. Now what's done is done. Leave that in the past. But don't don't do that again.

01:11:50:19 – 01:12:09:14
And you can say to, you know, I need to know why. What when, what down what led to it. And then I'll decide is mine. Yeah. Not decide whether there is even a friendship left to have. Genuine. That's how I'd feel about it. Right? Okay. That's. Yeah. Okay. So if you did this, imagine this. Yeah. Or your Mrs..

01:12:09:16 – 01:12:35:00
Right. Yeah. She cheated on you. I happen to know one of her mates. Yeah. And and and then I'm going on a date with them and a new boyfriend to you. Yeah. Yeah, I'd no chance. Not in a million years. Yeah. I couldn't even look at her, let alone fucking sit and have a chef food of her. Yeah, you'd have to cut the brakes in the car or something like that.

01:12:35:02 – 01:12:53:19
Definitely. That was that the other night. But no, no, no, no. Setting up a murder. Manslaughter. Too much, too much, too much. Little, little bum. Little pair. Give him a rematch on the motorway. Yeah, but yeah. No, that is way. Yeah. You're right. You want an explanation? What is it? Yeah. The explanation. We go. I didn't want to do it, but my girlfriend made me.

01:12:53:22 – 01:13:14:03
I'm pretty sure that be the explanation. Yeah. And in which case, he's got to be stronger there. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Like he's basically Vicario defending corners at that point and he needs to be a bit more. They have a bit more drag us in about him. Yeah for sure. Yeah 100%. Some people, we understand what that means.

01:13:14:03 – 01:13:46:10
It's all let them find out. All right. They left the left to do the research. We we are now going to go onto something only, you know. Why? Something, you know. For years, I have lived with the shame of being a grown man who suffered from the sexy dream syndrome. I could never get my head around it and always related, always relate to it.

01:13:46:10 – 01:14:08:08
When I was a young kid, young, dumb and full of cum, I'm a grown man with a healthy sexual relationship. I've spent years wondering if this was normal for someone of my age. I'm 40 odd year old man. I'd have been too embarrassed to tell anybody, even my wife. When Ricky shared his experience, it was like a big weight had been lifted off my shoulders.

01:14:08:11 – 01:14:35:03
Amazing. Thank you Ricky. Yeah, still not something I would shout about from the rooftop, but knowing I wasn't alone was a relief. One morning a few weeks back, I had a little visit from the semen demon. It was slightly strange because that night I had a little roll about with the wife. I couldn't work out why I still had so much of the good stuff still in my system, as you do after it happens.

01:14:35:05 – 01:15:01:20
I carefully grabbed a fresh pair of boxers, popped off to the toilet to change out of my Jesus soaked boxers. Then I carefully folded up the old boxers, hid them in the wash basket as you do, and jumped back into bed. Then something that had never happened before took place. After drifting off to sleep again for a few hours, I had a second visit from the semen demon Bosch.

01:15:01:22 – 01:15:30:01
2 in 1 night. What the fuck? After a little chuckle to myself, I couldn't be asked to get back up. So I drifted off, back to sleep, boxers and stomach smothered in my a night of triple gin in my 40s. Keep up the good work. Love listening. It's crazy how many of the topics are relatable to my life, and that was something only I know that that's amazing.

01:15:30:03 – 01:15:53:05
Free like three cheeses in one night. Roll around with the missus first. Go to sleep. Wake up. I have a wet dream. They were that two and that's a two. Do you know what I think I may have done to a tour? I'm pretty sure I've done it too. But a third, a third. How much is in there?

01:15:53:07 – 01:16:16:16
I mean, biologically, you're supposed to run out and let it build up a bit. I don't know, I know what is it? All factories in overdrive in it. That is a lot. When when? I must admit, when I was reading the fucking pissing myself a third again, I've got no one. I never love. Hey, fair play to him.

01:16:16:16 – 01:16:40:18
Any fool is virile. I got a healthy relationship and he's ready to confirm. He's ready to go is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I could only get. Are you like, could you do two dog if you're. If you've had sex and you've got and you're done. How. Yeah. Quickly. Could you go again. I could go again. But I would have the probably 15 15 minutes.

01:16:40:20 – 01:17:01:11
Yeah 15 minute. I don't want to do it for another four days after I've really. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm cool children. I yeah, I could, I could do it. I obviously I push, but I have to ask I've after I've done one. Yeah I'm, I'm, I'm sorted and then it would be in 15 minutes if you, if you had to do it, you could definitely go again.

01:17:01:13 – 01:17:31:11
100%. 100%. Yeah. No, no no question. The question. I have a little pig. If you are still listening to this, you can follow us on social on. Actually, I didn't mention we are posting on TikTok now. We're actually active on TikTok, and I will be posting a clip from this podcast every.

01:17:31:13 – 01:17:54:24
Of the pod. It's always going to be on TikTok. Just two seconds. You it just got out there. So when you say you're going to be posting, what was you saying? Posting a link to are you still there? May is that my internet connection? Today's been awful out 3 or 4 times. Yeah, but I've managed to talk over it so you you wouldn't know.

01:17:54:24 – 01:18:18:17
Won't be able to tell, right? Okay, so. So where was she? Sorry. I was talking about TikTok. Now, what? You could tell when. When you. Kyle. Yeah, yeah. It freezes. Everything freezes. All right, pick up. Pick up from the. Okay, I'll be around it. Okay. We are now going to be on TikTok and we're going to be actually active on TikTok.

01:18:18:17 – 01:18:47:19
We're going to be posting a video every single day on TikTok at Lads Anon Pod. Come and give us a follow there. And you may be thinking, yeah, I'll follow you on Instagram. I'll see you reels, though I only give you 90s 90s TikTok gives you longer. If you want more context to what we're talking about. If you want the longer clip, if you want the build up, if you want the extra bit of juice, you can follow us on TikTok.

01:18:47:19 – 01:19:17:14
So that's, lads anon pod and you can get us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, whatever. And if you want to still rate us on Spotify and Apple, give us a five stars. We will see you next Monday. Joyce.

01:19:17:16 – 01:19:42:20
Adam. Night, Hazel at Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek is that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:00:00:00 – 00:00:30:05
May fucking. When you sent that message at like, what was it, half ten, 11 at night last night. And you were like, oh, Mike, can we move the pod back to 1130? And I was like, what is he going on about? And you're like, we're doing the pod Monday because, when we need to move things around. And you sent me a calendar and I looked at my calendar, invite and there was an invoice that I sent for 10:00 this Monday morning.

00:00:30:07 – 00:00:48:09
And I was like, I have done nothing. I've not prepared. I have not done any research. I've not written anything. I've not done dilemmas, I've not done something I need, you know. And then I was in bed last night and I want to quote the switch in like trying to sleep while these intrusive thoughts are trying to get me and I'm just like, fuck, fuck.

00:00:48:11 – 00:01:11:02
And when my alarm goes off at half seven because it's a Monday morning and I have to distribute the pod in different socials. So normally I'm kind of lying in bed doing it through one eye open on my phone and it's all good. And today I was fucking up bolt upright in my bed, doing the socials, then running to my laptop to do the running.

00:01:11:04 – 00:01:26:19
Can't just stop you. So you had a bad night's sleep because you was worried about this podcast we're doing right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Richie, we could have moved it. It could. There were so many solutions so that you didn't have to have an anxiety ridden lie. I know that you're busy and you've got a lot to fit in.

00:01:26:19 – 00:01:49:19
Not too much. Do you think my busyness is more important than you feeling anxious? No. That's good to know for future. Yes. Richie, don't. Don't ever do that again. I didn't know you were going to say that and just go like I need more time. And I'm like, right, this will work out fine anyway, so you get them to show.

00:01:49:21 – 00:01:54:19
Let's go.

00:01:54:21 – 00:02:22:17
On the night, I see, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous.

00:02:22:17 – 00:02:43:21
It's episode 32, a podcast with two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice. All handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav?

00:02:43:22 – 00:03:06:09
G? Do you reckon you could do that intro without reading it? No, I've I've tried, I try, I try thinking I can and then I'll just fuckin bottle it. Right guys. Straight to Rick. I don't want to hear you read that out ever again. Right. Okay. What I want go for is your attempt to do it by my right to just off the dome.

00:03:06:09 – 00:03:25:05
Right. Rick and you will never get an opportunity to look at that again. So whatever it is, your first chance, whatever that sounds like, is the intro to every pot. Okay, I love that because it's impossible. Even if you've done it a hundred times, you're gonna fuck it up 100%. Yeah. And, yeah, that's that's that's, I'm good.

00:03:25:05 – 00:03:52:04
Rick. I, I came to a horrible realization last night. Okay. Maybe both. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you were you were panicking about this podcast. I was, I was, I was, I was I had a very sort of glum feeling and that was if a film starts at 11:00 at night, I'm too old to finish it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:52:04 – 00:04:15:06
I've had this twice and two nights. It was like 11:00. Braveheart started up like I do. I did the same thing to, Did you start watching it? Yes, I did, so what point did you quit? Because I would, I was, I was so ready to just sit there and watch the whole thing, but I couldn't, I couldn't because I had to get up.

00:04:15:06 – 00:04:42:06
I could do stuff. Braveheart is one of my most favorite films of all time. Fuck. Absolutely fucking yes. You know, I did well, fell asleep, woke up, went upstairs. Just everyone else was asleep. Came back down. Braveheart was still on. Yes. Second bite the cherry. Rub my hands together. Pull the blanket up. Fell asleep again. Woke up about half.

00:04:42:06 – 00:05:04:01
One other half. For fuck's sake! Fucking now! Fuck! I'm gonna wake up tomorrow. I'm going to feel hangover. It's. Yeah. That's it. Thank you guys for watching Braveheart. Attempted to watch Braveheart. That's. The thing is, you get to our age, you feel hung over if you don't get enough sleep. You feel terrible. Yeah. It's awful. I shit. Rick, this is shit.

00:05:04:03 – 00:05:25:12
We just old man anyway. Yeah, just old man. I got to the bit where, I don't. This is. If you haven't watched Braveheart. Now, I don't give a shit about spoiling it for you. Oh, yeah. I fucking love Braveheart. I love it so much. And the thing people are going like not is not historic. Historically. Correct. It's that actually it was Robert the Bruce that was.

00:05:25:12 – 00:05:48:10
Fuck off. Yeah. Fuck off is Mel Gibson. I don't give a shit. It's Mel Gibson. Yeah, yeah. Fucking and and he's like, isn't it a bit weird that he's sort of like marrying that young girl. She's like 18 and he's clearly in his late 40s. Fuck off. Don't get don't ruin this for me. It's great when, the king slashes the throat of, his his wife.

00:05:48:12 – 00:06:04:12
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was a bit. It was only about 20 minutes in those that got bad. Night. Did you know. Did you just love it off? Just turned it off and went to bed. Oh, good Lord, I had to, I couldn't I've got stuff to do. I also last night, Blade Runner, the new one.

00:06:04:14 – 00:06:22:12
I've only seen it once. I thought. Brilliant. I can't remember much of this though, because they didn't. It my favorite awesome 40s. All right, Batiste. I've. I've watched that as well. Rick. And then I was like, I can't, I can't. I've got a gap for total Ricky in the morning and, do two podcasts. I've done a podcast already.

00:06:22:12 – 00:06:46:07
What time is it called the 12 podcast. Already done. Recorded podcasts sent out there. Done. Jesus Christ. But could I'd rather be watching Braveheart right now than doing this? Yeah. Me too. Oh, 100% man 100%. Now, at the top of the show, you heard that I was, ill prepared for this podcast, and I hadn't realized I told you so you're listening to this now?

00:06:46:07 – 00:07:12:02
From. You've listened to our last pod on America, which has now come out this morning. But I said I was going to do a vote on our Instagram Stories, where you get to decide the next topic for this podcast. And because we've recorded early, I've picked it and I have picked near death experiences. That's what we've gone for today.

00:07:12:03 – 00:07:32:01
So apologies you couldn't take part in the story and vote in. I'm sure you were. Yeah, I'm sure you were really looking forward to it. And really fucked off about it. And I've really ruined your week by it. I know. So we've got no feedback for the America episode because maybe recording that early, we'll do it next time.

00:07:32:07 – 00:07:50:07
Has it been. Yeah, obviously it's just been out like review for hours. So you wouldn't just been out. And I have seen a tweet, talking about the parks. But I didn't have time to read it. So just quickly just just let me know what it was. Was it. Well, I, well, well, we can have the beef about national parks.

00:07:50:07 – 00:08:11:12
Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I did see I did hear the word that did say the word Croatia in which you compared the a Croatian park to the American park. Yeah. I'll stand by it, man. I'll throw down if it's on site, whoever that is. If you're listening to this is fucking on site. If you're thinking that Croatia is the most I don't know what you know.

00:08:11:12 – 00:08:34:03
What he said in my back's already up. Croatia is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. Yeah, fuck your national parks. Fuck them. Yeah. What's Yosemite anyway? It's just a big boulder. What the fuck is a shit about that? Damn number of Spotify comments? Like I said in the pod, you listen to the America, feature.

00:08:34:04 – 00:09:01:20
In America, we have actually had two comments in on Spotify already. Two comments in can I see them fit? Anyone see them? You can. They're published and I've replied, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the first one? Optimus Prime love it, love it. There were room 101. Yes, yes. So one of them was do a room 101 part.

00:09:02:00 – 00:09:22:21
And I was like, yes, for sure. It's definitely I don't like a feature. We do one room one. Oh one an episode or is that, is that a topic we can make a new feature. Okay Alex, do new jingle fucking no problem. Break that. That'd be cool. Yeah, man, that'd be cool. And then the other one, let's just a just a simple question.

00:09:22:23 – 00:09:46:21
Would you rather 100 beast things or one kick from a cow? Oh, and I was trying to measure it up in my mind. Like a kick from a cow is pretty hard. Like it? Like if the cow kicked you in the leg, it could break your leg. Yes. Without question. Could yes. You just know how I know this.

00:09:46:23 – 00:10:06:00
Like, I found this out at 15. I was doing my work experience at Kentish Town City Farm, Belt Road. Now at that, like most people are just sitting in banks and shit. I was working on the farm. I was like, this is sick. And I was even happy mucking out the cowshed. So was Kentish Town. So let me visualize this.

00:10:06:00 – 00:10:23:21
So what people in America might think is a farm. That's not what we got here in cities. We have city farms and they're like, they're not really a farm. Oh, they just house animals. They're not very big, but there is a bit of green green space on them. But generally they're kind of narrow and long. This one was in Kentish Town anyway.

00:10:23:21 – 00:10:44:11
You can still look at it. It's open. We would part. The day was to run a cow and two calves from where the keep was at the bottom, but the barn was all the way up to the top, where the field is, where they would graze all day. Oh yeah. And then each night you bring them back in so they can sleep under the in the hay and all the comfort and shit.

00:10:44:13 – 00:11:03:20
Nice. So it was my first day and I'm walking the cows up. Not on my own. I wasn't just going to go sort that out. I was with the bloke who ran the farm. They don't have leads. Like, you're not like, got rope and you're trying to pull them up. No, you have a thing. They just they just generally you have a stick.

00:11:03:21 – 00:11:24:12
You got a stick. Yeah. Because what happens is, is they working the cows, you prod, prod you prod the cows. But that but the cows were really stubborn, right. So sometimes they would just stop. And you can't move a cow if it wants. It doesn't want to move unless you got sticks and prod it with. So we're walking up their cows.

00:11:24:12 – 00:11:42:19
Fine. The calf goes into the sandpit. There's like this area with, like, they put sawdust and stuff there. So, you know, I know what the fuck it was there for, but probably for the animals. And it went. The calf went mental when start buckaroo in in the in the sawdust. I was standing too close to it and got kicked by the calf.

00:11:42:21 – 00:12:07:16
Fucking well, And that was a baby. That was a baby. Fucking. Well, I'd love to have seen that. I see they need love. We're flying. Rick. They weren't just like, oh, it was like, bang, fuck, shit after he kicked my fucking cow. So we got cows and you've got firsthand experience. And then bee stings. I have been stung by a bee and a fucking bumble bee.

00:12:07:16 – 00:12:30:05
Or we talking about wasp thing. You know what? Nice said that bumble bees. Everything I stood or I stood on a wasp by accident. And they stung the underside of my foot and. Fucking hell, man. So it was. It was painful. I've done the rolling up. Have you. Have you read it? Yeah. Mind. And I'm not. Try and do like a.

00:12:30:09 – 00:12:48:16
You've been to Tenerife. I've been to 11 reef. Okay. I'm not trying to one up you, but it was a hornet. I stood on and you'd think that was worse, right. Hornets are bigger and and then. Yeah. And their head moves independent of their bodies. Hornets like wasp is just a little sting. But a wasp is. It is what it is.

00:12:48:16 – 00:13:13:09
But when they when it can turn its head, it's the next element of scariness to it. Do you know what I mean? And they're looking around. Look at that, bro. Anyway, For you looking at, this thing isn't as bad as a standard wasp, and they're not nearly as aggressive, so actually, pretty chilled European hornets. So I was, I wasn't I wasn't in too much pain.

00:13:13:11 – 00:13:31:21
Okay. So that's yeah, they, they they, they, they kill wasps as well. So if you see a hornet, don't fuck with it. Leave it be. Okay. So it would, it would do the, it would take the trash out there, man. Doing dirty jobs. I wouldn't want to rub off. I think one kick from a coward.

00:13:31:23 – 00:14:00:02
You look, it's more risky, the touch, but it's sort of done, and. Yeah, thousand 100 bees things or worse things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the longevity of that isn't pleasant, is it? You're talking hours and hours. I've. I, did I ever tell you that story? When I went to Ireland and my missus on a she lives in very rural Ireland and she's got loads of, would you call it, you know, those, beehives?

00:14:00:02 – 00:14:35:00
She's got loads of beehives and it's just just off from a house and she's recently been doing it, so she's got four of those crates and she's well into it. She was saying to me and to the others, does anyone want to come really excited? Does anyone want to ever come over and, and see the bees? And I was like, you know what, in my mind, after I'd just been to, Longleat Safari with you and, and I held a tarantula, got over my face, and I thought, you know what?

00:14:35:02 – 00:14:56:01
I'm going to do this in front of my kids as well. And we're going to the BBC. BBC on. And I'm going to face my fear with the bees as well. So I did that, and there was like 15 of her family all in the house looking outside with me, with my little knitted thing on my head, all in the suit, gloves on and all that that I like.

00:14:56:01 – 00:15:14:21
You know, I was sweating a bit and I was feeling the fear and I've moved up to these four kind of crates, and she was walking me through what I was going to do, and she had this, like, little knife apparatus to kind of separate the top. And I could see loads of bees. And I was like, I, you know, this is this is quite uncomfortable.

00:15:14:23 – 00:15:33:22
As soon as she lifted that lid and I saw how many bees are there, it was like panic attack central really. And yeah, yeah, it was, it was fucking awful. And what she she was afraid. Yeah. And what were you thinking? You ain't afraid. Did you have the protective suit on? I did, didn't trust it. Didn't trust it.

00:15:33:23 – 00:15:56:06
So if you, if at all. So when they started coming out, they would start going onto my face right on the net. So. Yeah. On the net. Right. But because I was in the middle of Ireland, the wind was blowing a howler and the net was being pushed against my face. So the bees were literally on to my face on the mesh, but it was touching my face.

00:15:56:10 – 00:16:16:09
Yeah. And there is a video of my missus on a trying to calm me down. The whole I haven't seen themselves. Why haven't I said, why haven't I seen, you know, I'll send it to you. And they're trying to get bees off me. And I'm pacing the garden and look after that face in your face. I was like, fuck that.

00:16:16:09 – 00:16:40:07
I'm not doing that with insects anymore. I'm not. I'm just not going to do it. It was horrendous. So I'm going to go with cow. One kick from a cow. Thank you very much. I've just text your wife. Please send me the recipe video. I will send it and I'll have a look back. It might even post on our Instagram as well, just for everyone because it will be fucking funny.

00:16:40:12 – 00:17:11:02
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00:17:11:02 – 00:17:37:18
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00:17:37:18 – 00:18:11:20
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00:18:11:23 – 00:18:43:18
Why are you holding on me? You say you hang on. Wait, wait. Are you jumping? The gun is jumping the gun. Now, near-death experience is typified of out of body experiences. Maybe seeing a bright light, feeling a sense of peace. Right? So genuine experiences take you to, another realm of your conscious, Or do you think they are hallucinations or, like, brain waves?

00:18:43:19 – 00:19:09:21
Last activities are, like, caused by stress. I, so they can, like, give me comfort, right? Because ideally, ideally, I'd quite like this to be something after. Right? Yeah. Just so just gets carry on, right? Right. Yeah. Ideally. And and it's, it's not something that can be explained very well. So science there's a couple of schools of thought.

00:19:09:21 – 00:19:35:02
Right. And this is just I'm not an expert in this naturally but at all really. But there's this idea that once you die you. Have in the penal gland in your brain releases flushes the brain with a sense so I can eat. Can you repeat the penal? Penal is, I don't know. Oh, you don't know. It does sound.

00:19:35:02 – 00:19:47:22
I know it does sound the penis. Yeah. You're right. I mean, I hadn't thought that. It's a good, good kind. The pineal. Pineal. I think it's okay. It's good gland. It's good gland. It's.

00:19:47:24 – 00:20:14:20
The pineal gland. What is function? So what do you, Yeah. So pineal gland. Your pineal gland also called the pineal body or the empiricist sleep is a tiny gland in your brain is located beneath the back part of your corpus callosum. Callosum. It's a part of your endocrine system and secretes the hormone melatonin, your pineal gland, pineal gland.

00:20:14:21 – 00:20:37:06
Main job is to help you control your circadian cycle of sleep and wake from this by secreting melatonin. So literally sleep. Anyway, I don't know, this sounds all very boring. Well, I know it to do is make you have like mad trips, like DMT star trips. When you die, it releases a shitload of of of of whatever it is into your brain.

00:20:37:06 – 00:21:00:03
Yeah. And then you trip before you die, and maybe it's that, but the way I kind of. Yeah, yeah. So when you die, your body knows it's it's dying or there's so much stress. Stress put onto your body that this gland says, right, let's fuck all these fluids out now because we're going down. We need to do something.

00:21:00:05 – 00:21:37:01
And that's where this trippy, hallucinogenic kind of realm yeah, comes from. You reckon? Well, that's that's a idea that I mean, they have I think there's been a lot there's been studies done on people that are on their last legs and when they're about to die, and they monitor brainwave patterns and they can see that these waves peak in and trough in, that there is something going on that's exhibiting activity.

00:21:37:03 – 00:21:51:11
So so yeah. Hope so. Yeah. I mean I want that like, I don't know, I'd like to know I mean I don't want to know now obviously, but there is.

00:21:51:13 – 00:22:09:10
Good people see deceased ones, you know, I see I see my grandparents or something like that. Like that. Is that what happens? What's the point in your life? We had no passion for your grandparents for a second week. Okay. Let's go. We got to come with them. What do you want to see them when you when you die.

00:22:09:11 – 00:22:28:03
Like if, you know, if you spent a little time. Yeah. My my then I was 18 months. What am I to say to them. What can you talk about? What what I to say. Oh, that's what this is my this is my last minutes on the earth. I love you, but I don't want to talk to you.

00:22:28:05 – 00:22:45:12
Someone else comes up with things. Yeah. None of you. You haven't been watching me masturbate over. It's like that's that. Did you not ever have that feeling of when you was a kid about your loved ones watching over on you? Watch over me. Like if I'm driving too fast in my car or I'm about to sleep over, then watch out and be.

00:22:45:12 – 00:22:57:04
But don't like, watch me. Not when I'm about to sleep over.

00:22:57:06 – 00:23:16:04
No. I mean, there was always that, that they're watching over you, but I didn't really take in the of time. But they are in my room as a as a as a kid. That's exactly what I thought. But there is no hiding under the covers at the time. Well, have you got nothing better to do than just sit there and watch me?

00:23:16:06 – 00:23:42:03
Looks like I if there's a there's also like the tunnels of light of, I mean, that's a very common thing that where people say that they have died and they've been resuscitated and they've come back, that they head towards the light. I'd love that now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all I want that to happen. So that I believe that there is.

00:23:42:03 – 00:24:03:10
Because the thing is, is if you look at it, it doesn't matter whether there is or isn't that shrouding that show your cat right. It's dead and alive at the same time. Both things are it's actually terrible reference has no relation to it. So but what my point is, is, it doesn't matter whether you're whether there is an afterlife or not because you won't be able to consciously understand it.

00:24:03:10 – 00:24:24:13
So you'll be dead or there is. And then you find your calculus is zero point worrying about it. But yeah, if you could have an experience where it to you? You've lived through the experience. So it's true to you that guarantees that you believe it. That's the best place to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It exists or not.

00:24:24:13 – 00:24:45:01
It doesn't matter if you believe it, it's going to happen. And if it doesn't happen, you're dead anyway. So but this is where I have an issue point with somebody like Richard Dawkins. Why did he take so much gleans. And there's nothing after he's like, he's pausing to tell everyone that is fucking nothing. Fuck off. Dawkins like you might be, right, but fuck off.

00:24:45:03 – 00:25:00:15
It's true. I mean, if someone's got faith and they feel like they've gone to heaven, isn't that a wonderful place to be? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Oh, you can write a few book, maybe. Fuck off with your ideas, mate. That makes complete sense. I get it, you fucking idiot. Leave me alone. He doesn't know that. He doesn't like that.

00:25:00:15 – 00:25:32:14
Certain he does. He knows, you know, he's. He won't stop telling everybody. But the thing is, if you cannot explain why we are here, other than the simple idea that we evolved to be. And conscience was a being conscious and a being aware of yourself was a a think in evolution. And it may have never happened. But something created all of this shit.

00:25:32:16 – 00:25:47:13
If that theory doesn't exist. So if that theory isn't 100% guarantee able, then it may be that the creator there is a creator to it all. Well, I would like to, instead of.

00:25:47:15 – 00:26:12:06
Say man nine again or or any person that has passed away, I would like to be taken to the creator. So like it's the matrix. And they show me the computers, they show me, all the different rooms and how they're working stuff like, you know, they there's a big screen and it goes through my life. What happened?

00:26:12:06 – 00:26:34:18
You know, that, like, they talk me through it. Why I was there, what impact I had on other people and how that, you know, ripples through eternity that that that would be that would be a nice way to to go and then like, just say. So you gave 10 a.m. for a ten eternity. You now we've shown you what this you've done your purpose.

00:26:34:20 – 00:26:40:10
You can sit in that room on your own now for eternity in the dark.

00:26:40:12 – 00:26:57:12
So that you mentioned the matrix there, like if you died and you realized that there was you, there was this other world like the matrix, would you take the blue pill or red pill? Would you stay in the matrix, or would you, would you go out and live in the real that. No, no, I'd stay in the matrix closely, stay in the matrix.

00:26:57:12 – 00:27:19:18
I was there, but I remember watching The Matrix and it really did kind of like split my head open. And it was one of those times where I thought this, this could be real. This is real. This continues to this day. The idea that this is a simulation. So, so, even Elon Musk was on the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:27:19:20 – 00:27:51:16
Now get me don't get me wrong, that isn't like this isn't like perhaps two people that are feeding each other and saying some mental, outlandish stuff isn't the best. It's not very influential. But whatever. It was an interesting conversation that they had. And then so there was the idea of an implants in the brain and creating experiences, downloading like lived experiences that you could then go back to at any time.

00:27:51:18 – 00:28:21:17
And live again. Yeah. And they're like, well, if that it's possible in theory, perhaps it's already happened. And you're actually living one of those experiences right now. There's absolutely no way of proving it otherwise. And I was like, fuck, this is kind of 16 year old stoner talk, but I'm here for it because I'm, I, I'd like and now you've just said that and I'm thinking about it.

00:28:21:17 – 00:28:48:11
I just shut my laptop and just go and lie in a dark room and just think about what you've just said. Like, how do you prove that you're you're everything you're experience with me right now isn't just the part of whatever it is that you've downloaded. You prove it to me, and I can't prove that you exist. I can just this is might be the reality in simulation that I've chosen to go into an experience.

00:28:48:13 – 00:29:08:01
Imagine you. Imagine you did a you you kind of had the proof, but it was so far fetching. But somebody from the future, whatever, had told you about it, and you were the only person walking this earth that knew about what really was happening and stuff. Yeah, that that would be mad because you'd be trying to at every kitchen after that.

00:29:08:01 – 00:29:24:16
You'd be like, wait, listen to this. Right? And you'd be there telling you a story about how everything exists and it's real. It's true. Yeah, but everyone's thinking. But there we go. Well, if if you truly believe that. Stop, Terry.

00:29:24:18 – 00:29:50:13
I. Go and stop. Terry. I said stop! Terry. Why? You know, I know it's not a simulation, Rick. How? Because. Why in this simulation would we both be slowly put it on? Wait, what the hell is that? Yeah. Why would I want any part of a simulation? I look at him, look in the mirror, look in this camera and go, you fucking.

00:29:50:13 – 00:30:06:00
You've put on a bit of weight, boy. What's that got to do with anything? And why have you just said I'm. What have you just, like, throw me in there? Yeah, they're both putting on weight. So fucking shit up, mate. You know what I mean? You have to say it. It's. Well, do you feel like you are? Yeah.

00:30:06:00 – 00:30:23:03
I'm disgusting. I'm a big, bloated mess, man. And he. I'm. I'm sick of it now. I'm part of it. I'm not. I'm I'm kind of like. I'm conscious of it all the time. Fell. I think about it all the time I can imagine. Why don't I go to the gym? Why would I get in that fucking gym literally down the road from me?

00:30:23:03 – 00:30:41:09
I've a subscription there. Haven't been there in a year. Why? And I've done it before. I've got to the gym, I've lost weight. I know how to do it. I can do it. It's not a problem. Why won't I, Rick? Because it's boring. It's rubbish. Anyway, tens of thousands of things are so much better than going to the gym.

00:30:41:11 – 00:31:07:01
And the food is so nice. Something. And it's a hug and I love it. There's nothing better. My favorite, my favorite at the moment, Rick, is Leon. You ever go to Leon? There's a vegan. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Vegetarian choices have somewhat limited, but they've got a bangin vegan burger. Oh are they? Yes. Well, they're not just like, I think like I want to eat that should shitty a fucking Eggman a sandwich because there's no calories in it.

00:31:07:01 – 00:31:12:24
But I want I want to have that instead. I've got to sort it out. Oh.

00:31:13:01 – 00:31:44:13
If you could go to a hospital and they could simulate a near-death experience where the stress, the reduction of oxygen, you know, they really put you in that environment of you buzzing out and you actually taking the steps to the last, you know, parts of your consciousness being on this earth, but you're safe. You are safe. And they can bring you back and they can do that.

00:31:44:15 – 00:32:36:09
Would you do it? Yes. Would you? Yeah. You said it's safe. There's no guarantee of anything going wrong. Yeah. No, there there is no guarantee of anything going wrong. But from what we know and we I what I do when you, talk about this ayahuasca. Yeah. DMT trips. Yeah. And, the safe. But the kind of effect after of what it has on you, we'll go into that in a little bit more detail, but just bear in mind that there could be changes within your personality and how you think about the world, how you think about your family, because you have some people come out of these these near-death experiences with, you know, unconditional

00:32:36:09 – 00:33:11:20
love for anything. And everything. They are at one with the world and nature. Some people come out and they just think, what's the point? What's the point in any of this anymore? Yeah, well, I can only answer that by mentioning DMT. Okay. Because I read I've never I have taken it once actually, and it went horrendously bad. You remember, what you made?

00:33:11:20 – 00:33:34:00
Do I remember so bad, I fucking remember it was so bad. Me it was during lockdown, and I've. I mean, I like psychedelics, I like them, I've got at home right now, like 40 capsules of mushrooms. I, I've got upright. I'll always have them around. Yeah. I'm not sitting there tripping balls every day. I occasionally might put a film on.

00:33:34:02 – 00:33:57:02
I have a mushroom. Yeah. Enjoy the next four hours. Everything's good. So that's my that's kind of my relationship with them at the moment. Yeah. There was a time when I, I guess this is my closest I've ever got to dying. Yes. Because you asked me you didn't have any near-death experiences, and I was like, no, but I think this could have been it.

00:33:57:04 – 00:34:27:15
Yeah, for me. So what happened was, I don't think there's there's any documented cases of people dying from taking too much DMT. And if people don't know what it is, it's a supremely intense, psychedelic. That's where mushrooms can offer it, certainly in small doses. Very lovely. And and they can also offer very bad experiences as well. Like, it's not there's no way of guessing whether or not you have a good or bad trip.

00:34:27:15 – 00:34:58:11
So that I'm not encouraging anyone to go and take any psychedelic. Unless that's it, I'm just not encouraging it. Right? So so DMT is something else. If you take enough, you lose. Perhaps in some way your basis in your surroundings and you go into a different world fundamentally that's inside your brain, but also in your vision. Everything you see in front of you changes so you don't see what's around you.

00:34:58:13 – 00:35:26:20
If you break through, it's called break in through and you essentially enter another world legitimately, you enter something that isn't in this world but is created within your brain and takes over your eyesight. So the things you are seeing and it's not even seeing you're there, it's it's your. And if you take an object, isn't it, isn't it supposed to like tap into a part of your brain that you don't already use?

00:35:26:20 – 00:35:49:08
And that's how it it kind of. Yeah. It's a flex. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know, we should get that. We should get, Nick on. Who knows about this stuff. Yeah. Drugs expert. Yeah. So I don't want to butcher the explanation, but maybe we'll get him on for 15 minutes next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Explain this stuff properly.

00:35:49:10 – 00:36:08:23
But something or chemicals releasing in your brain and you are there. And what you live in currently is not. You're not aware of it anyway. You're supposed to measure these doses quite, you know. Precisely. And, and and breaking through in inverted commas isn't easy. It's not a thing that you just do it every time you break through.

00:36:09:02 – 00:36:23:09
As I understand it. So I was a bit drunk. How did you measure it? I just pinched a bit.

00:36:23:11 – 00:36:41:21
There's people out there with digital scales and they that in the other, I've like literally gone to that zero point, zero point like going through it. You just pinched a bit. Pinched the bit of powder. Yeah. Yeah. You put it in a pipe which is a glass pipe, which is the optics of holding a glass pipe with brown powder.

00:36:41:21 – 00:37:12:01
I a good look. And you light the pipe so it looks like you're smoking crack genuinely. Or brown heroin. And I remember inhaling in it. And the next thing I remember is my wife waking me up on the floor where I was convulsing and, And let me tell you, it, this was a near-death experience. You don't know a fucking clue about anything that's happening.

00:37:12:04 – 00:37:39:08
You know what it was? Inhale black nothingness and then waking up. Yeah, that was a bad one. My message was rightfully fuming with me, and I just feel it's so. So what? My mind state where I was, I was that was thinking about what I wanted to achieve then was like, it's called, you know, the name of it colloquially was like a businessman's trip.

00:37:39:08 – 00:38:01:00
So you could, if you know what you're doing. And I absolutely didn't know what I was doing. You can have a really intense ship in ten minutes, and there's no comedown. Yeah. For me, it's it's too much for me. That's my little brain. Kind of that once I was with people that knew what they were doing. So I did some more later on after that.

00:38:01:02 – 00:38:21:11
But, you have to more. Yeah. So in, Lee's, stacking the field in fucking Durham in someone's car and had it in a pipe, then with a vape. Like a vape pen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's sort of like, you know what you're doing. That was wicked then, but it was. It wasn't as intense. It wasn't like that.

00:38:21:11 – 00:38:43:24
Yeah. So like, I was anticipating a nice little trip. I wasn't anticipating blacking out and being in convulsing. And no, I don't think anyone is. And the same with, I don't know how is it how you pronounce ayahuasca? Is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, I was because different to that. There's a different type. So it's like a, it's a, it's a plant based psychedelic.

00:38:44:01 – 00:39:09:20
Psychedelics affect all senses, altering a person's thinking, sense of time and emotions that can cause a person to hallucinate. Seeing or hearing things that do not exist or are distorted. So they are, but you can visit shamans and you can do ceremonies and drink this stuff. And I think quite often a lot of people are sick when they drink it.

00:39:09:20 – 00:39:36:21
And it's like a, it's almost like a purge of your senses. So a lot of people do that, and they kind of have these near-death experiences where they are, you know, talking to God almost. Would you do anything like that with ayahuasca and this is a shaman, and he would do matrix to South America date night again.

00:39:36:23 – 00:39:58:09
Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. But you could also go to like Archway in north London and find a shaman also. Yeah. It's you don't have to go to Peru. You could do that. Yeah I know someone that's done that. Yeah, yeah. Potters bar, I think you went to, our good friend Carl Donnelly's comedian. The, He talks about that.

00:39:58:09 – 00:40:02:02
Would I do it? I,

00:40:02:04 – 00:40:25:21
I don't probably not because he's he's like, I might be, but but we're Carl. One of his outputs of him doing ayahuasca, I believe. Was it that he turned vegan. Yes. It's, into the for me, into vegan with very short amount of time with it. Yeah. Within days it just flipped. And he's been vegan for God knows how many years now.

00:40:25:21 – 00:40:45:20
Happier. Also he says, yeah. So these are the things that that can be at play when you're doing these. I'd be scared. But but that's a positive one, right. Because it's good for you have to be. Yeah. And you do see. Yeah. But what it's like if you don't see the point in podcasting anymore, see this, this is what I was talking about.

00:40:45:20 – 00:41:08:14
This is, this is more along the lines of where I was. I was trying to bait you, where if you do go to, a hospital and they say, yeah, we can do a near-death experience, it's all fine. You'll wake up, your wife will be there, whoever or whatever, but you wake up, you are going to detest football.

00:41:08:16 – 00:41:33:03
You were going to absolutely hate your dog being round. You know the football one's better because, okay, I can kind of see that already. Like when multiple times through a season. Rick I'll go, what am I doing. Right. So that's already there a little bit. I don't want to be nudged over because because the fallout of that really is what what do I do?

00:41:33:03 – 00:41:57:19
How do I support my family? I don't know, and then you you wouldn't be able to go back into a a normal kind of corporate office, you know, doing the 9 to 5, you, you've you've lived this life and you've just got no fucking fucking fuming. Ricky, if you've the denial of ayahuasca, ayahuasca shop and the change was that you went back to the office, that's not what that's for today.

00:41:57:21 – 00:42:28:10
I imagine that's the set I it's, it's like left it life and then for fucking I'm going to put a fucking three piece on and just go to the office in my fucking shirt and tie. Right. Yeah, I'd be scared of that. But maybe we're over or simplifying what that change feels like. Have you ever you personally now, I have never had a near-death experience as opposed to the going down like, you know, the dark tunnel, the light.

00:42:28:10 – 00:42:55:18
Yeah. Having, my life played before me. Anything like that. Now, one like you just said about doing your, DMT trip, and it was blackout. So when I've mentioned this story before, but when I was incredibly drunk, when I was like 13, 14 and I started it basically my body started to shut down. So I was sick.

00:42:55:20 – 00:43:24:15
I pissed myself a shit myself, and I was taken to hospital and my organs, it started to shut down. Yeah, this is how Ricky explains all this on an earlier podcast. Go. It's fucking hilarious. Go on. This is it is hilarious. Or concerned about I know so but then there was the only light that I fucking was when I was in my face in the in the corridor, like there was no, there was nothing.

00:43:24:15 – 00:43:52:03
There was absolute just blackness. It was just going to bed and waking up. That's all that was. So I can't speak from that point of view. And I have never had, one of those moments of I'm going down the tunnel or whatever, but one of the closest times I feel like I've had where I've had a near-death experience was when I was traveling to America.

00:43:52:05 – 00:44:14:01
I, me and the two lads I was with, we were in Portland, Oregon, and we did a day trip whitewater rafting. It's fun, fun day, fun experience with loads of people on the boat rowing down the river, the waves crashing over you and all of that little big river. It's pretty scary. They they teach you how to do everything.

00:44:14:03 – 00:44:42:09
Now, the instructor said that if you wanted to jump out of the boat and go down a rapid, which was a grade two, she said from from memory, what you do is at the top of the rapids. You hold your breath and you bob and swirl through the rapids, and then you come out into the calmer water at the bottom and when she shouts, you start swimming right to where it's shallow.

00:44:42:11 – 00:45:04:06
Who wants to do this? But two mates put their hands up. I can't push the out of this. I'll got going as well. And I'm a terrible swimmer. I can swim, but I'm terrible at it. And before I knew it, before I even had a chance to think of like what I need to do, they had already jumped in and they were starting that the descent down this rapid.

00:45:04:12 – 00:45:26:08
So then I jumped in as well. But I was wearing waterproof clothing and they weren't. And we had our life jackets on, but my waterproof clothing filled up with water, so it was like I was I was weighted down, so I was going through these rapids, bobbing up and down underneath the water, coming back up, fucking shit myself.

00:45:26:10 – 00:45:46:14
I could see down the rapids my mates swimming to the right because I heard a shout. I get to that point and I start swimming to the right, and I'm swimming and I'm swimming and I'm like, shit, I'm getting over to them. I can see my mates, and then I start tiring and then I can feel the current licking at my ankles.

00:45:46:16 – 00:46:09:11
Then I feel like the gentle caress on my calf muscles, then a hug over my thighs. I'm being sucked back into the river and I have no energy. There is nothing in me to get me out of there. And then you start panicking and your arms are going up windmills and you're thinking fuck! Like, what am I going to do?

00:46:09:16 – 00:46:29:19
And then the weight of that, a waterproof filling up with water. I just can't get out. I can't get out. I'm just going back further and further into the river, and I'm like, at that point in your mind, you're like, oh, if I might say, I'll carry on swimming. If I'm not, I won't drown, you know, mentality, a fucking mentality, monster.

00:46:29:19 – 00:46:47:20
I'll do it. You won't mate, you won't. You just give up and you think this is it. Now I'm going. I'm going to be a dead. I'm going down rapids and I'm going to be in Portland, Oregon. I'm going to have to find my body back to my mom. She's gonna have to pay loads of money. Fucking how I fucked it.

00:46:48:00 – 00:47:14:13
My mate saw me panicking and going down and he drifted back into the current, grabbed my wrist, pulled me forwards, and then I started to glide into the shallow end and I could get my feet onto the bottom of what was swam is Billy. Billy? Billy saved me. And then as, he he went back into the current, he swam back out and he'd save me.

00:47:14:15 – 00:47:36:09
They will we will jump back into the boat. They dragged us on board. And my legs. I've never had cramps so bad in my legs. It's just like this little ball in agony. And that is the closest that I've ever been. That I think was. I was so close. It was the worst. The worst you had ever had an experience like that?

00:47:36:15 – 00:48:00:19
No, never. I'm quite risk averse. I think I kind of sense danger. You can sense danger? Yeah. Is it, is it like a six and you think you're Spider-Man? Yeah. Yeah. No, genuinely I do. I think I have to have, like, spider senses when, when dangers around. Case in point, very recently I went to Boardmasters festival with the wife and two kids.

00:48:00:21 – 00:48:24:05
First festival I've been to properly when they're old enough to appreciate it. And there were lots of kids. Young kids, lots of drugs. You could see a lot of people pretty mangled. Anyway, there's this deejay called Sammy Verjee playing. He's quite well known now. Blew up on TikTok. And the kids love him, right? No, I mean, I mainly played garage music so I could give a shit about seeing him, really.

00:48:24:05 – 00:48:47:19
But, yeah, my daughter wanted to see him. We were there early, relatively early before, it was, but it was. There was just enough room to stand around. It wasn't much, but there was no cause for concern. Yeah. Anyway, it was getting fuller and fuller, and these kids were coming in, and I'm like, this feels dangerous. It slows like, this is like it was just to.

00:48:47:20 – 00:49:11:05
To explain. You had a it was a downward hill and you had a stage at the bottom. And there was the area was kind of like round. And then there was fences at the left and right, so that you it was all the people piled into this sort of circular zone where they would watch Sammy Verjee play, and we were right on the edge of it, like literally standing on the fences.

00:49:11:07 – 00:49:33:03
And I was like, I sense that we've got a I feel like we need to get out of is way too busy too quickly. And, literally after saying that to my wife about a minute later, there was a surge. Crowd surge. I'd never seen the crowd surge before. I thought I had at football. Like when when it's moving around, that isn't what crowd surge is.

00:49:33:03 – 00:49:56:18
This was like watching 4000 people fall over like dominoes. Oh, God, I'm watching it. Let's go screaming broken ankles, broken legs. We're on the edge. And I was like, we go, get out of here and we start climbing over that. There's a video of me on TikTok climbing over the fences. Well, it's a it's an actual video of you climbing.

00:49:56:18 – 00:50:15:13
I yeah, someone took it, like from about 100ft away. You can I know you can see will when they. And so I was like get over it wasn't just this 100 people trying to get over and the, but my, my wife was going because the boy just jumped over straight away. It was going, Chloe, get over.

00:50:15:13 – 00:50:32:23
And Chloe's like, she's nimble, fit. Six, 716. And I was like, don't worry about, oh, we've got to get you over because I'm. It was she. My wife's like 40 now. And you know, you just had two kids is less nimble than they are. Yeah. So you got your over and that was it was we were safe then.

00:50:32:23 – 00:50:53:04
But it was it was like a warzone afterwards. But I felt it happening before it did is my point, right. So like when trouble was about to go off in a pub or club, I can see it waiting for a sensor. Yeah, always. So I've always managed to negotiate my way around dangerous situations like getting on a plane across the Atlantic, risk assessment it.

00:50:53:07 – 00:51:18:19
Yeah, I just, I just I did it I just did that toying with Barbados mate. Bruh. For fuck's sake. What a lot. Out of all the places like why why why now? Why Barbados? What is because I met to Bayesians yesterday. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're. Yeah, they live there. They're from the from London. They're from the West Country, typically.

00:51:18:19 – 00:51:37:13
And they were coming over to see some extended family from Ollie's. So we just went over Zillow, had a barbecue and they were like, it's only eight hours. And I was like, I, I think actually, once you're in the air, it's about six and a half, seven. They said, it's just a 6.5 hours. I it doesn't sound too bad that in Barbados is like Paradise.

00:51:37:13 – 00:52:01:09
Yes. White beaches. Yeah, yeah. Like a sharks and blue sea. Yeah. For 6.5 hours. That doesn't. Anyway, it turns out that is about, And I'm thinking I actually I could do that. Okay. And I looked at the flight plan. The direction where it goes is right over the ocean. There is no land. It's just sea until you get to Barbados, mate.

00:52:01:09 – 00:52:21:09
You literally. We had we had a conversation about about three weeks ago. And you're saying that most planes, their flight plan of the flight paths are done so that there is a bit of land to able to glide to land at all times? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I've been told. That's what I've been told. Look at the flight plan.

00:52:21:11 – 00:52:42:03
There are no land, no land. Like someone's been telling bookings to me. Unless there's this flight plan. Right? And someone just made it on the internet. It is like the red line across the ocean in the middle of it. When you told me that, I was like, I'm not even going to research this. I'm just going to take it like, just gospel that that is it.

00:52:42:06 – 00:53:04:01
Because I don't want to know. I'm just going to pretend that's what they do, and I will feel a hell of a lot better now to lead this out. Someone sent it's a story, and I'm going to read it out. Now. We've got a lake near us, and we often take canoes out on it. They're the open canoes, and we stick a barbecue bass and that sort of stuff in them.

00:53:04:03 – 00:53:22:07
We've taken them out loads of no issues. Anyway, this one time we went for it for the day out. May the missus and I'll do, the in-laws and, some of my daughter's friends. My daughter had been given a surf kayak, so she wanted to try that out rather than come in that open canoe with the rest of us.

00:53:22:09 – 00:53:43:17
So we all set off. The aim was to go to one of the islands in the lake, the in-laws and the missus ram one canoe. I was with the, with my daughter's friends, and my daughter was on her canoe. It was all good though. Hard work. It was quite windy, and my daughter's friends were too busy on their phones to help out, so I was pretty much knackered.

00:53:43:19 – 00:54:04:07
This was where the problem started. The daughter didn't want to go on her kayak and wanted to go in the open canoe with her friends, so I ended up having to take her back. It was a fucking nightmare. I was as I was too big for it and it was rocking about a pain to handle. We're all paddling back.

00:54:04:08 – 00:54:32:11
The other two canoes are off in the distance and I'm really struggling. Then the motorbike passes the weight, flips my canoe. Now, I haven't mentioned at this point that I'm a shit swimmer, and I've made the not so wise choice of no lifejacket. So I'm in the water and I'm trying to flip the kayak. Like how, like how I can with open canoe, but it's plastic and slippery and I can't get a grip of it.

00:54:32:13 – 00:54:53:04
I'm knackered from earlier and I keep going underwater. And I can't tread water. I'm yelling for the others, but only my missus hears and she turns around to come and help. I genuinely think I'm fucked as she seems so far away. It was an awful feeling. Luckily, the missus is pretty good in the canoe and she is getting closer.

00:54:53:10 – 00:55:18:21
I'm screaming, I'm drifting, I'm Christine bobbing underwater swallowing. Woah. I'm thinking I'm done for. She shouting at me to calm down as she pulls up alongside. She grabs me and in my panic state, I pretty much pull her in whilst collaborating over to get into her canoe, I set off in that canoe and left, left with the kayak and didn't look back.

00:55:18:23 – 00:55:38:05
I guess I reasoned that she's a really good swimmer and would be fine. Basically, I'm the guy on the Titanic who jumps in the life by when everybody's saying women and children first. We all go back, okay, my missus was well pissed off with me, and I was really withdrawn for a few days as I properly freaked myself out.

00:55:38:07 – 00:56:03:22
It's all good now. I'm drifting has become a family joke. But I stupidly still don't wear a life jacket. Lightning doesn't strike twice, right? Again, fucking drowning in this shit, thinking Darwin is it? It is absolute. Drowning is rubbish. Okay, I think we can all agree. Drowning is rubbish. No, you said about the lifeboats on the Titanic.

00:56:03:24 – 00:56:24:05
Yeah. When we were climbing over the fence, the security guards going, get the children, get the children. But I was already on then. And so I was like, I could get the children. I don't have to jump down. I'm sort of halfway up. What's the etiquette here? All my children already over. Yes, yes. So then I wasn't mad about the other children.

00:56:24:07 – 00:56:53:09
Yeah, my children first, then me, then I'll help people get over so. Let's dilemmas. Yeah. To date or not to date, that is the question. And something only you know wiggle wiggle. You okay? Those are the questions. You got an issue for a tissue? Well, I started playing a jingle. Is that wrong? Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't play it.

00:56:53:09 – 00:57:21:02
Yeah. So, the kids would do the topics, and then I'll kick you up. All right. The top topic for next week. We all going to do the story. The story's going to go on the Tuesday morning. So if you want to go and vote on the poll on our Instagram stories for Tuesday, the day after the podcast is released, Instagram is at Lad Anon podcast.

00:57:21:02 – 00:57:46:16
Give us a follow and go and vote in the poll, the two topics going head to head is addiction, which could be drugs, gambling, sex, phone the sharks. Well I know such and sharks is our love for sharks. Shark attacks anything to do, anything to do with sharks. All this shark. How big are the sharks in the mid?

00:57:46:18 – 00:58:09:04
We've had a couple of emails in previously. Well, I couldn't quite slide into the show about sharks, about shark attacks. And you don't know about these so that there's already waiting. There's content already there baby. Can I tell you it's just something I heard yesterday. Just so I don't forget it. But from the base of the Bayesians. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

00:58:09:06 – 00:58:33:09
They go spearfishing at night. Oh my God, the idiots and all they can see is fuck with the torches on their head. This is the same person. Fucking pay me. Not in a million years. Not in a million. No, nothing would put me in that black water where tiger sharks are fucking. You insane? Are you fucking insane? Oh, yeah.

00:58:33:09 – 00:58:56:16
But the risk is like getting struck by lightning. Are you fucking. I wouldn't go walk in sand under a tree when there's a lightning storm either. That is. Yeah. That is absolutely ridiculous. So that is in the entry. So when they were doing, when they were doing spearfishing in the day, one of them got attacked by a blacktip.

00:58:56:18 – 00:59:19:18
Oh, God. Bit him on the head. On the head. But it was a small one and they had masks on and stuff. So he cut his head. But it was on the on the hairline. It wasn't a big deal. Wasn't a big deal. I said, still go. Still guys, still go. He said, yeah, at night I last the last week and fucking out like it's just people have just brought up different, aren't they?

00:59:19:18 – 00:59:38:11
You know, like in Hawaii with surfing. And they can see like great white sharks and they're like, oh, it's not going above you. If you don't look at it, it won't look at you. They fuck you, you know, it's a great white shark. May you fucking. So I've just talked to Ian. I've talked to tiger sharks in Barbados.

00:59:38:11 – 01:00:00:23
Yes. Time. The sharks are often seen in the Caribbean Sea. Often. Often. Mate. Not really often. Often they're milling about. Why is it when you talk to anyone? The comforting. Yeah, but they're they're very rare. They're not rare. They're everywhere. So I've not seen the Malibu. What is YouTube. Tell the fucking tiger sharks from there, mate. If you've not seen the Malibu, I shall leave it.

01:00:00:23 – 01:00:28:03
Leave it. Just written note for Malibu artists. I want to tell you about I to you. Yeah, I love him. Yeah, it's pretty actually. Yeah, that's fucking all right. We are now going to go into dilemmas. Something. No, actually, so, just tired. You got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad cause that will give you a aching in your soul, alone in your flat.

01:00:28:08 – 01:00:57:17
Please talk to Ricky a flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, frankly, the fucking black. Black. You're safe here to get nice wall between breaking black. What is that, Alex? Yeah, I know, I know, I someone message isn't saying. Is he easy, but I'll ask him. Okay, I like that. Yeah, I like just a breath of relaxation, I think maybe.

01:00:57:17 – 01:01:23:17
Yeah, I think so, too. The dilemmas off your chest. To date or not to date, that is the question. I met this amazing girl about a year ago with both marine biologists. I love going out in the sea together. We spent quite a bit of time together over the last few months, of the last year. We instantly hit it off and had a great connection.

01:01:23:19 – 01:01:51:01
The trouble is, she's one of the busiest people I have ever met. She works pretty much every day, including most weekends, while she's also looking after her teenage kid. To top things off, she lives two hours away and barely has any time to spare. I asked her out on a date last year, which she was up for, but said she wanted to talk about her situation before anything went further.

01:01:51:03 – 01:02:23:02
I assume it was about her having a child, but that does not bother me at all. Since then we have not had the conversation and due to how busy she is, I've barely seen her till last week. When we saw each other again, it was like nothing had changed and we still had this amazing connection. I didn't bring up the subject of taking her out, but I'd like to get your advice on how I should approach this.

01:02:23:04 – 01:02:44:13
Yeah, I mean, see you exergy. It's hard in it when you got a crush on someone, but you don't, and she's obviously into you. But she's busy. Yeah. What's the situation? Yeah. Yeah. You don't know. I mean, you're assuming the situation is the kid, but it could be a different situation. Oh, I get accused of being a shark nonce and that.

01:02:44:13 – 01:03:09:02
And I want to check sharks. Maybe she's shagging sharks. For real? Yeah. I can't think of that. So. Yeah, I think, he's spending too much time in the sea. Yeah. Stop shaking. Sharks. Stop shaking. Oh. Stop shaking. Well, I just thought, can't, can't can't stop it. Just got to stop shagging sharks. Nothing good can come from this.

01:03:09:04 – 01:03:31:24
Yeah. That I, I think you can. Sometimes you got to play it slow, and you've just got to see what happens. And, you know, maybe go on holiday, try and pick a holiday or so. I'll come down and see you. That'd be nice. I'll come and see you. I'll get an Airbnb. No pressure out, you know. Maybe I'll tell you what to do.

01:03:32:01 – 01:03:51:23
Go. Go to her. So I'm going to come over with my friend. We're going to chill out. And maybe if you've got time, we can spend a couple of days together during that period. Just try and boost the relationship. Yeah. Because, you know, obviously the point of us being on this planet is to find someone to love and be with.

01:03:52:00 – 01:04:11:00
It's much better existence when you have that, if you're lucky enough to have it, then she may be the one. I think you should just see where it goes without putting too much pressure. Yeah, I know also because she's just coming to back into your life after that, you would seeing her. I wouldn't go in ten times. I wouldn't say, yeah, you're right not to bring that up.

01:04:11:05 – 01:04:30:03
Yeah, I think I and Sophie, how's your morning card for a day like that? Don't go straight in there. Not like none of that. I think you could do with building some more working time with her. Oh, more of a kind of. You can't. You can't get some work near her. Yes. That's what I was going to say.

01:04:30:03 – 01:04:48:07
Yeah. Why don't you put in her? Oh, no. I've always wanted to clean those clams. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You need to clarify. That wasn't supposed to be like that. But, you know, that's what just sprung to my head. But, like, can't you just say. Oh, well, I wanted to work on that. I want it to work in the area.

01:04:48:12 – 01:05:12:09
What are you working on at the moment? Can I come and help out? Right, yeah. Try and, initiate some more times where, like, she's busy and you. There isn't enough time for you guys. So why don't you go to her where she's working or where she's busy and try and, you know, make her realize that that connection is is stronger than being busy all the time or something like that.

01:05:12:09 – 01:05:22:09
And when and while you're waiting, like, for it to click into gear, it's nothing stopping you from seeing a couple of roses.

01:05:22:11 – 01:05:35:17
It's like training. It's training like when, you know, look, she doesn't find out. Just get a couple of roses in,

01:05:35:19 – 01:05:54:01
Theory way so that. That's good. That's our advice. Yeah. That's Rose. Probably not. The problem is not the wrong one. No, no one knows. It's nothing. You can do it and then not in a relationship. So I said, right. Yeah. You're not. She's not, she's not, right to tell you what you can and can't do with your winky right now.

01:05:54:03 – 01:06:14:02
Engineer more working time with, or engineer something where you can go to her ends and say, hey, I'm just just down here at the moment. If you got time, you want to hang out, grab a coffee, go for dinner, whatever it is. Then maybe she'll be able to tell you about the situation and take it from there.

01:06:14:04 – 01:06:27:04
Now we're going to go into something only you know why? Something. You know.

01:06:27:06 – 01:06:55:22
This is called Wake or Without You. I was newly single at 26, and I found myself texting my ex from when I was 19. We talked for a couple of days, and she asked if she could come over. Being a gentleman, I politely accepted after watching a film, which I'm sure she tactically chose because I was hot. As hard as Bronson, we began to get down to business.

01:06:55:24 – 01:07:24:21
Now I'm under no illusions, but as soon as a girl touches the goods, I'm essentially a ticking time bomb. However, I was feeling more like Mo Farah rather than my usual Usain Bolt. Things were going really well until she decided to turn around into doggy. Now, from what I could remember, she very much liked having her hair pulled, so being keen to make her experience better, I did.

01:07:24:21 – 01:07:57:16
So I grabbed her hair and pulled it off. Yeah, it was a wig. Now I was looking at my reflection on the back of her bald head. I try to act as if nothing had happened, but she burst into tears. Oh, I said, I'm so sorry. I had no idea. She proceeded to face time, her friend, to talk about it whilst I was sat next to her on my own bed with a boner.

01:07:57:18 – 01:08:11:11
It was at my flat and I had nowhere to go. She said she was so sorry that she should have told me so. I accepted the apology and jumped right back on.

01:08:11:13 – 01:08:42:12
We are due to be married at the end of August. Yes, yes, ironically, I'm the bald one now and that's something only I know. That's brilliant. What a great story. Yeah, that is lovely. Yeah. Why does she call a mate straight away? I was sitting there and he came to the phone and Jim Feinstein. Remember Theo Von, when, when he talks about he was on Joe Rogan's and he goes, you can, you can put your earphones on.

01:08:42:12 – 01:09:09:05
Is that shit, man? Yeah. You leaving when I'm on my own is like, yeah, no, it's like, so when he having sex and you've put a condom on, but she's looking at her phone. Yeah. All right. So it's weird that I had an experience, What? A long time ago. And, we, pulled this bird.

01:09:09:07 – 01:09:37:04
And my friend I was with poured his hand up about her friend. Sorry. Which which friend befriended I do this with. Yeah. Who's this friend that I love? Yeah. You do? I'm not going to name him. Okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Name on the podcast. So we went out and, we went back and I was a bit thrown off because, like, 13 year old son was there.

01:09:37:06 – 01:10:01:04
But I was full of all of the stuff that I had the good stuff just back then. And, so I've kind of put him to the back of my mind a bit anyway, so he, my mate was in the other room with another bird, and I was in the bedroom with this other girl, and the other girl had a moment of clarity and turns out she was in a relationship already.

01:10:01:06 – 01:10:18:24
Okay. So she burst in the room in a fit of tears when we of getting on to it, and I was like, and then and obviously they went off to the bathroom to to cry together. And I was just like sitting there like that guy. And this is what they wait in it. They do that tomorrow. Christ will me too late.

01:10:18:24 – 01:10:38:00
You've already done it now, mate. It's no, no, don't fuck up, Mike. So I mean fucking everybody up here. Yeah, you just wait till you have your emotional collapse the day after, you know? Anyway, so is it the girl that you would had the emotion? No, no, no, she was cool. She was fine. She was she was having a relationship ruin that.

01:10:38:02 – 01:11:05:15
Yeah. Right. Yeah. No. Bloody hell. So in terms of like the, the sort of emotional reaction in at the time where, you know, she was FaceTimed a friend when she pulled the hair off. Yeah. Sometimes emotion gets in the way. Yeah. I mean to do that straight away, it's like it would be super awkward thing hearing this face of this happening, but it all worked out for the best.

01:11:05:19 – 01:11:25:22
So there you go. Your your missus just sent me the video. For fuck's sake. Really? Oh, yeah. She said there's a longer one, apparently. Yeah. Don't worry. I'll also add, I know you're gonna hook me up because I've. Yeah. And I'll hook you up. This has been lots anonymous. Can you hook me up with another video?

01:11:25:24 – 01:11:49:08
What video? Your media project from, when you six. That would never see the light of day. Never see the light of day? You know what? That that could potentially say if we ever did a, a live show, you, promise me you're telling the truth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we ever date back a good a good turnout for a live show.

01:11:49:10 – 01:12:13:05
That is amazing, Ricky. And it would be one of those one of those moments where, you know, mobile phones go into lockers and everyone comes in. Everyone's just there for the show. And we have one of those kind of, like, shows that we did. One of those I would, I would play it. Yeah, right. Like, you know, everyone locked in that room could have a good old fucking laugh.

01:12:13:05 – 01:12:32:22
Well, if we could check in, we could say, I wonder if we could sell 100 tickets. We sell a hundred tickets. A nice little comfy room and just play this video. I've got to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, I am surprised Ricky saying this. I've. I've seen this once, and that must have been about 18 years ago. And I've never not thought about it regularly.

01:12:32:22 – 01:12:46:15
I still think about it all the time. And you said, I will never see it again because I wasn't sure what you was expecting, I think when you showed it to me, but we couldn't believe how much we were laughing. And then it just went back in your Tupperware box under your bed. And that was it. Never saw it.

01:12:46:15 – 01:13:08:03
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. That's it. You just hope people whet the appetite somewhat. It was. You recreate it or made your own music video too. It's too late by the streets. That's correct. Yeah. I made my own alternative version, and I, you know, I like Skinner in it. I am lip sync in and, you know, looking down the camera and doing some acting as well.

01:13:08:05 – 01:13:26:15
So that is it's a delight. It's a bloody delight. If we played that, I'd have to walk out the room. No, you'd have to sit there and then. So many questions we could do 20 minutes just, questions for that. You mean maybe we should. We should do. I wonder how many people would come. How can you gauge an idea of whether or not there's an appetite for a live show?

01:13:26:17 – 01:13:54:21
How do we do that? I don't know, just tweet us. Yeah, maybe Twitter, poll Instagram, but I don't know. Well, we'll work on the mechanics of, the if people are interested in that. Not doing one at the end of the year or whatever it might be. But if you want to vote on the topic for next week, the podcast goes out on Monday, on the Tuesday straight off the bat Instagram Stories.

01:13:54:21 – 01:14:16:19
But can I have a poll? What do you want to see? Addiction or sharks? What kind of meat you think I'm going to be in if if addiction wins, I know, I know going to be fucking hilarious. I'm also can I, can I? It's just to push people in the direction of sharks. We've got apparatus for the pot, we've got props and stuff.

01:14:16:21 – 01:14:47:06
Yes. Right. Okay okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not it's just going to be a slightly more interesting part because this game with the play. Yeah, it would be an interesting show. And if you want to follow us on social Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, whatever, it's all the same handle everywhere at Lads Anon Pod and we will see you next Monday.

01:14:47:08 – 01:15:12:17
Are the night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes? Hi is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

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Did you? I had another go. Braveheart. Last night. Another guy? Did you see? Yeah, yeah, I did. Hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, Get all the way for it. Oh, no. Hey, guys. So long. So long as I start watching, I was like, I'll start where I left off from last week. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

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When the, sliced dog across the throat. Yeah. And then, it's about an hour in as that guy's dragging on a bit that looks on less than an hour and 20 minutes on fatness. I until a great film. No great great, great film. Love it mate.

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Dim night, hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous.

00:01:22:17 – 00:01:43:08
It's episode 33, a podcast about two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer questions, dilemmas or need for advice, all handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going? Flab buzzing.

00:01:43:10 – 00:02:09:18
Sausage buzzing yeah I'm a big weekend, big week. And more importantly this podcast. Yeah lots of lots of stuff going on this week in the world of sharks yet also stuff. So I'm so excited about this episode. More excited than you. All that I kind of was taken to 32. Like you, we both have a shared interest in sharks for sure.

00:02:09:20 – 00:02:32:16
All good, all good things come to those who why why why why why is I saying what does that even mean? I don't know, but I still felt like I needed to say it to keep you at bay from saying episode one. Shark might write it. All right. I reckon we could do an offshoot podcast just on sharks for sure.

00:02:32:16 – 00:02:58:23
I mean, what I will say is that this isn't going to be a one episode of sharks and it will be revisited like there's loads of episodes that we've done that will eventually get revisited, because there is a lot to cover. People love to lot. They do. They everyone like people like eating chicken, like people. There is so many people out there, actually.

00:02:58:23 – 00:03:29:11
Right? Sharks. We've had loads of emails in of the experience and encounters with sharks while they've been diving on holiday. They've seen in photos that there's some really good holes in stuff they've sent in. So thank you for sending all your shark stuff in. Last week, the episode Near-Death experiences, someone sent in this quote for us, smoking DMT is like bungee jumping.

00:03:29:13 – 00:04:03:06
Ayahuasca is like a hot air balloon ride. So if they. Yeah. And if if anyone has ever had the inclination to try either they say that you should and it will, change your perception of things for the better. Now, I say take that with a pinch of salt. People. I'm not. We're not advocating to say, do any of those things, but you can do your own research and find out about what those things are and how they can affect you.

00:04:03:08 – 00:04:29:06
And then also, we had quite a lot of near-death experiences and someone sent something in. I can't remember if it's Instagram, email, Twitter, I can't find it. But basically the guy was with his wife. He'd been drinking all day in a limo on the way to a WWE event in Vegas, and as he was drinking this whiskey, he got out.

00:04:29:06 – 00:04:59:17
The guy at the limo. The sun hit him. He was then felt incredibly drunk, was swaying in the queue to get in under the heat in Vegas, fell over, hit his head and died. He was clinically dead for seven minutes. And then listen, listen, listen. Yeah, yeah. And then the paramedics, obviously, because it's a massive event were they're able to resuscitate him.

00:04:59:19 – 00:05:19:06
He's obviously alive. Yeah. Missed the WWE event. What did he say the second hospital I think his wife was a bit pissed off about it I well she missed Hulk Hogan and yeah missed it. Oh missed it. Oh because he was dead fucking it was.

00:05:19:08 – 00:05:39:10
Now I think that was the biggest near. Hold on. Did he say anything. No. What did he make a point of saying that I saw nothing? Yeah. Fuck, yeah. No. Yeah I know, I know, but I, I'm putting that down. See that? He was drunk, really, really drunk. And he was in the Vegas sun. And you know, you just going to blackout it.

00:05:39:10 – 00:05:48:20
Yeah. Yeah, I know if it's an afternoon when he was so drunk he didn't notice the afterlife. No.

00:05:48:22 – 00:06:15:10
It's just. Absolutely. Stephen. Fucking idiot. You have the key there. And you lost the. Okay. Fuck you drunk too much whiskey. Literally. Could have changed the way we think about the whole concept of being alive, but you just too fucking drunk to realize. The the Spotify comments have been rolling in, so it's like if you leaving those comments, one of them was, have you ever done a poo without doing away?

00:06:15:12 – 00:06:41:19
Fuck I is a good shower. I so there has been a time a couple of times where I have done that, but they've been forced to forcibly wear withheld doing the way because I've probably been outside or been in a terrible situation where I just need to get the like poo in a bag or bucket or something like that, and then I don't need I know, I know, I know, and I couldn't wait because there'd be a lot of way and you have a quick muck out.

00:06:41:19 – 00:06:59:13
So then that's the thing is no, no time for weird. No, no, exactly. I had a nightmare before this pod. Well, I had a shower, but I'm going to bear in mind people could be in their breakfast right now, right? What are you going to. Yeah. No, I just, you know, I just had a shower. And isn't it the worst when you've cleansed yourself?

00:06:59:13 – 00:07:17:17
And then three minutes after you tell me guys need to fucking turn out and like, all that cleaning is lost. What, so your entire you mentally you think your entire body but dirty after you've had a poo. Well, I'd like to. I'd like to have done the poo, then the shower and then proper cream for the rest of it.

00:07:17:21 – 00:07:47:18
Don't even wash your hands off the performance of what you are. Yes I do, that's disgusting. That is disgusting. Someone has said, how about an episode on competition I uncompetitive, which has negatively affected many of my relationships, my best friends and coworkers. Competitive people are assholes, are they? They are the the next bit. I don't think I'm a prick per say.

00:07:47:20 – 00:08:10:15
I you know, I tend to take things too seriously or go too hard. I know it points towards insecurity, but I genuinely appreciate friendly competition. Yeah, but it isn't friendly. Friendly is an agreement between two people that we understand how important it is. But what happens with competitive peoples? You make events like like a game of badminton a nightmare.

00:08:10:17 – 00:08:31:06
Yeah, like I do. You know, I was speaking to James all about this, who I do the another pod with, and he said he knows when he goes on a football pitch, he turns into an asshole. He knows it. He doesn't want to. He cannot stop himself. Yeah, someone said that you cannot apologize to people in WhatsApp groups.

00:08:31:06 – 00:08:58:05
Like a day later. But when I was I always remember when I was younger, I know to play football for teams and I was always like, I don't mind playing World Cup doubles and I don't mind playing different, headers and volleys and shit like that. You know, that's absolutely fine. Love that. As soon as you get onto a football pitch and someone is shouting at me to get in position and jump higher for that header and stand up fucking, I don't want to do this.

00:08:58:07 – 00:09:15:20
What are you going to call me? We're mates. We're mates. Why are you shouting at me? This is ridiculous. Why am I feeling bad? Because I want to play football. I want to hang about with you. But you're just having a go at me, screaming at me. I'm so. So I did this thing. You know. True. Geordie.

00:09:15:22 – 00:09:34:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. So if people don't know he's a big YouTuber, that's some sort of. That's been some. He's dealt with some things and, you know, don't think being canceled and all that shit. Right. Anyway, before that happened, he did A5A side tournament with influencers and 30 comments about YouTubers, and they all you put on one team.

00:09:34:05 – 00:09:50:11
God knows why I was invited, but I was right. And I even said to me, sure, why? And they were like, yeah, yeah, we want you to everyone there. And I was like, all right, fine. I started playing this, I hate this, I hate this. So much. I just want it to be over my fucking team and go all the way to the fucking final.

00:09:50:13 – 00:10:03:24
And I was like, oh my God. In the end, I said, I'm just going to go and go. I want to go and go, so I don't give a shit in the semifinals. Gain, please lose, lose. I don't want to play another game. I hate this, I'm not competitive. Everyone else wants to win. I couldn't give a fuck.

00:10:04:01 – 00:10:23:12
I just went up so far from home. Yeah, it's like they competitive people are fucking like. Typically when they get competitive, they become dickheads and they ruin everything. Yeah. When you're an adult as well, going out is a fucking nightmare because men are just blast in balls that you got no chance this horrible. Just some don't enjoy that.

00:10:23:14 – 00:10:48:01
Somebody else has emailed in about our episode about America and said great episode, and they would like to hear more travel themed episodes. So that's good comment from Spotify. Is it good? I don't know, we've done holidays, we've done stuff dos, we've done America. Is it not for holidays? Not for is how many more for fucking? How much more troubling can we possibly think?

00:10:48:03 – 00:11:10:01
I'd like to. Yeah. Like, a travel blog, being you in Europe. No Interrail in, mate. That would be sick. Yeah, and we can't maybe say good. So for $300, me and you, we can go first class around Europe, inter alia, if it is off peak and we. It's work. This is a podcast. It's work. We kind of like got.

00:11:10:02 – 00:11:35:07
Yeah. One. So you say sort of wise where are you going? I'll just get into right around Europe with Ricky. Yeah. Working on. Oh I want to come start podcasting. Yeah. You two do whatever you like. Then start a podcast. Me and Ricky going to work. That'll be amazing. And one last question. Would you rather be a goldfish or a stick insect?

00:11:35:09 – 00:12:00:01
Come from Spotify as well? Goldfish like you just did. A tank. People give you feed. You just look at people walking around. I like fish. Sims are right. Stick insect. I think if you're out in the wilds. Yeah. People going to eat. Yeah. There's going to be other insects that are going to try and get you. So don't want to do that.

00:12:00:03 – 00:12:29:06
Well Go Fish was the question. Would you rather vehicle fish stick insects. Well, I can tell you this because the boys stick insects at home. They like, oh, shit. Really? They fuck a lot. They, You didn't. I didn't play a fucking lot. Right. I'm changing to. No, you know, go go fish. I'm. I'm out a fucking.

00:12:29:08 – 00:12:52:10
Every two minutes. Is that another fucking 30 stick insects? Jesus. Really? Yeah. It's. And they're like escape ice. You find them? What? Walking down the wall and shit. I know if that would freak me out. Yeah. It's not. That was great, man. Great, right. British podcast awards. Oh stop it. No no no, listen listen listen, listen. This is the only one.

00:12:52:10 – 00:13:14:00
Last one, last one. I'm going to tell you something about this after you finish. Right. Okay. They haven't released. As far as I know. They haven't released the shortlist. They did a midway point on the shortlist and we were not on there. Okay. And I and I had a look at the pods that were featured. And they are fucking monstrous pods, right?

00:13:14:00 – 00:13:40:13
Absolutely monstrous celebrities, production values, all of that. Right. So it doesn't matter that we weren't shortlisted, but what I, what I do want to say is thank you everybody to to that, who voted for us. And I just want to say it wasn't a wasted vote because people putting our name across to them were now on their radar.

00:13:40:13 – 00:14:10:01
They don't give a fuck about us. That's anonymous. It coming for them. We're on their radar is they're going to be one day when we're up. Do you know how much value you've given to them? Right. And it isn't nothing. Rick. Oh, I forgot just by giving them free, free, free programmatic every single episode. You're talking about hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pounds at this stage.

00:14:10:03 – 00:14:27:05
If you'd have done that two years from now, and we would get in, you know, 3 or 4 times our audience, it's all about thousands of pounds of free advertising. You've given them. And what have got in return? Nothing. It I mean, if we'd if we were shortlisted, it would have been. It would have been a how do these massive.

00:14:27:11 – 00:14:44:02
They've been great. Don't get me wrong, but how many, how many. These massive company, these massive podcasts, how come they all got on there. They have a vested interest. They're paid to be on there. And same way you pay you pay to be number one in the charts. You could you could have told me about this earlier instead of the last.

00:14:44:04 – 00:15:17:20
Just let you run with it. But see, if you're if you're a okay, okay, okay, do whatever you want again. Tick tock. We are posting every single day on TikTok, and if you like watching clips, the video clips of the podcast, go on. Follow us on Tik Tok lads. Anon pod it's lads. Anon pod everywhere. So Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, friends Twitter whenever you do social media, we're there.

00:15:17:21 – 00:15:50:23
We had a banger. Unfortunately we we did have a banger. It was and it's probably clocked up now to about 65,000. Video View What was the content of that? Saying that we should blokes should suck each other off quite a lot. Don't. I'm the one that's gone semi viral. Brilliant, brilliant. Well done everyone. Yeah I mean it's my it's mainly me saying that how passionate I am about sucking my mates off.

00:15:51:00 – 00:16:14:17
Which is. It's funny, you don't like I stand by it, but it's almost like. Who's seen that? Yeah. I don't know when we know it's only 65,000 in the, what you call it. In the grand scheme of things, when someone at talkSPORT saw it. No, they wouldn't see it. But you know what? That's what I want to that my,

00:16:14:23 – 00:16:36:00
We're only joking. It's fine, it's fine. Now you get all the whites. You did ask me. He did say do you want to you find putting this up? And I said, yeah, it's fine. Yeah, exactly. So you see anything? What I would be. Sorry about that. Now it's fine. Let's let's get rid of all this. Let's let's undress.

00:16:36:00 – 00:17:08:23
Let's get comfortable, man. Let's talk about shark. So we put the party. We put the, the voting poll out on, on our Instagram stories. It was between addiction. We sharks and addiction got 31%. Sharks got 69%. 39. Our house fit in. How fit in 31% of what kind of miserable bastards that 31% of clearly of what I wanted to be banging on about this.

00:17:09:00 – 00:17:37:16
Talking about sharks for ages. I think everyone, everyone did it because they what they wanted to hear. You talk about sharks. They want a big one this week. Big one, big, big one. But it's sad. It's really sad in Jamaica. Jamaica. There's a boy, 16 years old, spearfishing, head spearfishing. I can talk about spearfishing. I can tell you all the things this kid did wrong.

00:17:37:18 – 00:18:05:01
Sitting from my chair and Devizes. So people that I know, this kid, 16 year old, they found his body missing the nominee's head. Oh, God. And he's been attacked probably by a tiger shark or a tiger. Yeah. Just think a tiger sharks. Yeah. Just as far as. Yeah, it could have been bull shark. Like very, very, super aggressive in those circumstances.

00:18:05:01 – 00:18:26:07
Also, there's an also recorded, recorded incident of a man's head being bitten off by a bull shark down a river. Because we know. But what do we know about bull sharks, Ricky? They they they swim in rivers and they can swim in brackish, brackish water. Fresh, even in fresh water it decreases. But they want basically they do what they want.

00:18:26:07 – 00:18:42:21
I don't give a fuck. What? Saltwater. What's that? Fresh water. I'll get in that. What you can do? I wouldn't be surprised if I showed them on land. Just walking down the high street that's been flooded. Golf courses that have bull sharks in their lakes because they got flooded. And then the water's dissipated and they get trapped in the lakes and they live.

00:18:42:23 – 00:19:01:20
They live, they just go fine beside. Well, we used to be in the sea. Now we're in a lake and people playing golf. This is one that's genuinely associate. The other day we hear this woman on a golf course and she's. I'm almost certainly I saw a shark in the in the lake and she's got a video and she video in it.

00:19:01:22 – 00:19:22:02
Yeah. I said it's okay. You sent it to me. Yeah, mate. I get sent shark stuff all the time. I've watched for four short videos on TikTok this morning. It just keeps coming up. Coming up. And that shark just comes back round. That's a bull shark. It's insane. Anyway, this is insane. This kid, this kid has been eaten alive, right?

00:19:22:02 – 00:19:50:01
So this two things you don't do, right? If you want to avoid keeping safe in the water, right in shark infested waters, going out in the water at dusk or sundown and dusk. Dawn was dusk. That is when it gets dark, isn't it? So sorry. Like 6 a.m. about 7 p.m. whenever your sides get dark. That's when sharks are most active and spearfishing.

00:19:50:01 – 00:20:14:12
They fucking love spear fishes. Fishermen. Yeah. And, because when they're shooting the fish, they emit a pole, sense like a, an electronic, like an electric field. They send out the fish in distress. Yeah. That can be picked up by sharks because they've got the sensors and the snouts can't remember the name of them. So, yeah. Shooting fish.

00:20:14:12 – 00:20:35:24
The sharks are like, I want to eat that fish. Then they see you. Sometimes you got the fish, then you get eaten by the shark. That's what happens. But I have, a friend of a friend. Friends of the family live in the Bahamas. And their son does this. They go out in Barbados. Brother. He goes out spearfishing in the dark, and all I've got is like a head torch.

00:20:36:01 – 00:21:01:21
Everything's pitch black. Just a head torch looking out. Imagine that. No, I don't want to a he's mad. Really? Really like what? What I don't get is a lot of these people that go diving and spearfishing, it's because it's a sport because they like the hunting element. It's not because they need to catch those fish to eat, because food is scarce.

00:21:01:23 – 00:21:29:01
They're doing it for enjoyment. Why? Why can't another hobby do anything? Oh man. Football. But not diving in the sea in shark infested waters to go spearfishing. What do you think's going to happen. But I just because you see them as well. And they've got like nets underwater where they've speared the fish. Then they get the fish and put it in their little netted bag and then they go on to the next one.

00:21:29:07 – 00:21:54:09
So there's a fish in a netted bag. I mean, loads of blood and distress signals that it's dying. What's going to come along? What do you think is going to happen. Yeah. This this. Have you heard of the abalone divers? No. So this is cool. This is. Where would you find the abalone? It's, I want to say in Australia somewhere, abalone is like a mussel.

00:21:54:11 – 00:22:19:08
It's like a. Yeah, like a muscle. Yeah. And they're worth their weight in gold. It cost a fortune. Because they could be used in, in dishes that just. They cost an absolute fortune. You know, it's. I'll tell you why. The whether it's so expensive a single abalone or abalone is worth a South Africa. My bad. It's worth a lot of money anyway.

00:22:19:14 – 00:22:47:16
So what they do is they they go along in their boat, and they lower these cages down into the water. The cages have propellers on them. So imagine it's cage around the diver. Bloody hell. Yeah. So it's sort of like the diver gets into this cage and it has propellers and he can go around safely right in this shockproof cage that has the pillars of propellers and forward.

00:22:47:18 – 00:23:11:07
They go down to the bottom. Now, in order to get the abalone off of the rocks, they have to leave the cage. Oh, God. Right. There is footage of great white sharks following the diver in these cages as he goes for abalone. You know, Sydney, they know. So? So it's one of the most dangerous jobs in that you can do underwater.

00:23:11:07 – 00:23:29:07
Is an abalone diver that the death rate is. It is insane. They have to leave the cage. You can't put the cage. Can't go right next to the rock. It has to be sort of planted, you know, ten feet from the rock. So to leave the cage, looking over his shoulders constantly for fucking great white sharks. There's that.

00:23:29:07 – 00:23:55:24
Yeah, there's an eight 12 minute documentary on it, on how much they get paid to do that. Not a lot, I'd imagine. Abalone divers killed by sharks, abalone divers wage watch again. Not. I just wouldn't do it. They can earn $120,000 in 50 days of work. Right? Okay. I can see why people do that. You know, I still wouldn't do, I did.

00:23:56:00 – 00:24:09:21
I still want the right. What is your earliest memory of sharks being on your radar? What's the earliest? So.

00:24:09:23 – 00:24:35:01
I remember when I was a kid, I had this VHS. The cover was like blue and yellow, and I've tried to find it ever since, and I just can't find it. It's it says it's a National Geographic video, but I don't remember that. It was, they were diving at an island called Rangi Rubber, which is in the French Polynesia.

00:24:35:07 – 00:25:03:06
Yeah. And they were diving and studying hammerhead sharks and all these different species of sharks. And I always remember getting this video, putting in the tape, the tape deck. And, you know, when you'd have, like, the lines come across your telly because it's just reading the video, the black and white lines and then it would start and then you hear the, the narrator, the, you know, the old English narrator talking about sharks.

00:25:03:07 – 00:25:25:19
Yeah. How dangerous it was. And then you just see the big deep blue sea, then all of a sudden you just see a flicker of gray in the distance, and then you're like, they're fucking here. They are fucking here. And I remember watching that over and over again, all these different sharks. And I'm thinking that is the first time as well.

00:25:25:21 – 00:25:52:21
I heard that the world's best shark name Baba Gong, a global gong shark. Yeah. And I was like, what is that? What is that? What fucking name is that? That is amazing. And that's when I. Then it's kind of had this realm of being into sharks. And then my, my grandparents, I still have the book they bought me this large like.

00:25:52:23 – 00:26:24:24
Hardback book of sharks. And on the front of it was the shark obviously breaching the wall teeth, all that. What the great whites like. Do you know, I don't even think it was a great white. You know, I can't remember what shark it was. And I read that book from front to back, back to front and seeing, oh, not only did it have all the sharks in there where they lived, what they ate, but it had shark attacks in there and it had pictures and stuff like that.

00:26:24:24 – 00:26:59:19
And, and, documentation of what happened, why and all those images just stuck in my head. But it was always, always the great white. That was always the one that I was like, it's just the king of the sea, man. It's just the it's the ultimate. Like just seeing those teeth, how fast it swims. Isn't it the only shark that can breach the water and have its full body out of the water?

00:26:59:21 – 00:27:21:03
The other other sharks do breach, but they. But it, yeah. In terms of a total like catch in full. Er yeah. Full. Yeah. But you have spinner sharks that will come out of the ocean and they'll actually physically spin in the air. Oh shit. I didn't even know about those. Yeah, there are lots more of a shark the size of a great white to get that much air.

00:27:21:03 – 00:27:41:10
And you know why they do that, right? For people that don't know they're ambush hunters. Whereas tiger sharks tend to be a little bit more like, I'm here and I'm going to eat you. Yeah. If you give me the chance. Great whites you don't even know. That's why they're so devastating. When someone gets hit by a great white, because you don't know that they they're about to attack you because you don't see them.

00:27:41:12 – 00:28:04:23
Which is why some so terrifying. But when they're breaching, they, impart of why they breaches the way they attack. So they come up from below and they hit the seal, which is their main prey. They hit the seal as hard as they can to create a devastating blow. And you see, it's been caught. The secret seal goes, if it gets hit, you're flying out of the water.

00:28:05:00 – 00:28:30:00
So there's a shark so that they only have to do it once and then ideally bleed to death and they consume it. So that's why when you see them breaching, it's kind of them practicing to do that. There may be other reasons why they do breach, but not a great deal is known about it. But that's not say when when did you kind of first realize, oh, what was the thing that started?

00:28:30:02 – 00:28:49:08
Yeah, it was love of sharks when he was, when he was talking there, I think honestly, it was I saw I watched jaws very young. Yeah, I remember rightly jaws is a parental guidance PG. It may and may be wrong, but as I remember as a kid, it was kind of it was PG. It wasn't 15 and there was no 12.

00:28:49:08 – 00:29:08:16
Okay, now I might be wrong, I might be wrong, but whatever it was, I was allowed to watch it. I think it might be on TV. I seem to remember my nan's front guard front from, front room, and obviously it's such a masterpiece. Jaws. It just creates fear. Like the the girl that gets eaten in the first scene.

00:29:08:16 – 00:29:34:03
That is terrifying. That. Yeah, the gentleman that got eaten in Egypt last summer. Yeah, that was about as close to that opening scene of a shark attack. I've ever seen. And it's dark. There's something underwater that you can't see, and it is tearing her apart. And she's screaming and it's the way it's shot, gurgling in the water, getting dragged beneath the water.

00:29:34:03 – 00:29:59:01
Not when I was a kid was like, this is horrendous. This is horrifying. And it's part of being human. Is is you drawn to things that a terrifying ride? The thing is, when when you when you're scared of something, what we do is learn as much about it as possible. So I used to my mum used to take me to the, to the library every Saturday morning without fail.

00:29:59:01 – 00:30:25:02
Practically every Saturday. And so I'd often go straight sort of football magazines like that match and shoot. Do you remember them? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I'd read those and then I'd, and then I'd go to the shark section, which wasn't big, which is about maybe a collection of about seven books. It's a small, small library. And I would lay them out in front of me, cross-legged on the floor, and I just read them, and then I'd take one out.

00:30:25:03 – 00:30:45:12
I was allowed to take one out. If you need it, you can lend from the library. And the book I would take out most was a collection of shark attack stories. Yes. Do you know the ones I'm talking about where they. It's the. It's maybe each shark attack is about 5 or 6 pages long, and then they move on to the next one and it tells you where it happened, what type of shark it was.

00:30:45:14 – 00:31:06:24
The person involved in the age. And, I would just read them and they would terrify me. It was like horror stories. I would read them and put a picture myself in that situation, and they were terrified me so much. So what I wanted, like, I thought that we should kill sharks then oh, go fuck fucking know. All I knew was jaws and this book about shark attacks.

00:31:06:24 – 00:31:32:24
I'm like fucking motherfuckers trying to get us, man. You need to stop them to stop those motherfuckers. Anyway, and then I, as I got a little bit older, like when I'd say about 8 or 9, I'd be reading all kinds of books about shark preservation. And I got put on to Valerie and Ron Taylor, who were, they were like in the shark world, but Posh and Becks and Shark, well, like, they they were the most famous people.

00:31:32:24 – 00:31:51:06
They would make documentaries they designed. I think they designed the, shark proof dive suits. And none of them really are shot proof. But no, they were involved in those. Do you remember the, like, chain shark? Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. No one uses them anymore, so they can't be that good. I always used to think though when I was watching that.

00:31:51:06 – 00:32:12:11
So they would be slightly baggy. Not on the skin. Yeah. That they prevented the, the teeth from breaking the skin. Yeah. But you're still like tons of force coming down on your arm. It just it just crush your arm. So I was pretty useless. Anyway, I wrote to them when I was about 11. No way. Did you really?

00:32:12:11 – 00:32:30:12
Yeah, I wrote some, just like a handwritten letter. My mum, my mum, mum, mum helped me do it and I just, it's a, I don't, I can't remember what it was about is about like learning about preservation of sharks and then. Yeah that was it. I mean that would be the. That's pretty sweet actually. Yeah man, I love them.

00:32:30:12 – 00:32:56:05
I do love them. I also remember when I was younger, I can't remember how I maybe younger than between 7 and 9, I was on a holiday in Dorset and you know, you go around the local shops and stuff like that. And I remember seeing a, you know, those shark jaws where they're just open and I can't remember what shark it was.

00:32:56:07 – 00:33:18:07
And I remember thinking, I've got pocket money, I'm going to buy that. And then I saw the process like, I am not going to buy that. That's so the whole jaw, the whole your whole jaw. Yeah, I'd like one. And in the end I bought a couple of shark teeth. I bought two tiger shark teeth. Yeah. And to mako shark teeth, I and I kept them around me at this little envelope.

00:33:18:09 – 00:33:44:04
And in my pocket. Every time we sat down, I opened the envelope. Get the teeth out of my hand, have a little look. Fucking now I've got, I've got a couple of shark teeth. Me an ugly fucking ring. Yeah. So what are the things that you keep mentioning is shark attacks? Yeah. Is there a can you say a favorite shark attack.

00:33:44:09 – 00:34:10:14
Is there. What's one that sticks in your mind that re that, that kind of lit the fuze. Because I have one. So there is a famous picture and you would have seen this. You know the picture 1963 Rodney Fox. Yeah. In southern Australia. Yeah. You know the one you can't know. Yeah, yeah I know exactly you're talking about.

00:34:10:14 – 00:34:30:19
It's, you know, the one I just gesticulated to Ricky where the bite mark was on his body. That's right. No, because you can see you see the size of the sharks mouth on across his back. And you think. Yeah, fuck. His body was in the mouth of a shark, so he was. Guess what he was doing when he was bitten?

00:34:30:21 – 00:34:55:17
Was he spearfishing? He was fucking spearfishing with a fucking spear. How good can it baby fishing. How much fun can it be? So the shark, the pictures of it is he's sitting there. This is like torso. So from the top of his chest down to his waist, there is a clear, massive shark bite mark and there's loads of stitches.

00:34:55:17 – 00:35:27:04
Now he was bitten by a great white shark. Yeah. And he received over. He received 462 stitches. It like, punctured his diaphragm, his ribs, his lung, spleen. Like he got fucking absolutely walloped. And he said he remembered looking down, seeing the great white shark coming towards him and seeing its mouth open. The feeling of being hit by a bus and him thinking, what the fuck am I going to do?

00:35:27:06 – 00:35:46:09
And he because he'd been hit at such a velocity, he dropped his gun. His mask had come off, but he had eye to eye contact with this great white shark and he was like, I'm just going to start just going to start hitting it in its face and in its eye. And he did that. And the shark eventually let him go.

00:35:46:11 – 00:36:12:13
And he swam up to the top. And obviously he he was saved and he still alive to this day he's like 80 something as far as I'm aware. But that is when I that's one of the first images of a shark attack and great whites. That's where my love for luck, because I know that after that I was like, I know the other sharks that the great White is is the one.

00:36:12:15 – 00:36:32:05
It's the fucking daddy. It's the king of the sea. No one is going to take it down. Well, it isn't the king of the seas. It does not. I'm not with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I want it, I'm gone. We going to say. But it's the orcas you can see. The thing is. See, I really,

00:36:32:07 – 00:36:59:23
People say it. Say this to me. I'm. Yeah, I've seen the video footage. Right? Yeah. The orcas, they work in pairs and stuff like that. They they gang up on a single great one. That's not a fair fight that they fight. Right. And also that they sneak up on them. They sneak up on it. A great white shark is just enjoying its day, swimming through the, you know, the blue yonder, just thinking about what it's going to do, what's going to eat.

00:37:00:00 – 00:37:22:23
And then the orca orcas, should I say they sneak up on it. And that's it. Okay. And if it was a one on one fight in the sea, the Great White would win. So I'm not I'm not having it. No, I don't know if it would also stop.

00:37:23:00 – 00:37:42:12
I mean, the animal kingdom doesn't say you're not allowed to gang up on each other, but you just. Whoever wins, wins. Yeah, and I'm with you, Rick. I don't want orcas gets a fuck like these, but more of a mean sea world. The thing is, is. Right. And again, like, just going back to this orca business because it does rile me.

00:37:42:18 – 00:37:58:03
But you can get orcas and you can put them in tanks and you can teach them and train them and kiss them and feed them and do this and do that. You do that trick, right? Like, now you could try it. They've tried this. They've tried oh I didn't it died. They probably put it back then. It probably got.

00:37:58:05 – 00:38:19:01
Yeah. They could eat just you know, like in massive aquariums you can have certain type of shots that are okay. Not no. Aquarium is a place for a shark, by the way. It's not they they can't live natural lives in these aquariums, but there are some that are more suited it to others. They've tried put Great White into an aquarium, a massive aquarium and died.

00:38:19:01 – 00:38:58:06
Or it got so sick they tried to put it back. But things like sand tiger sharks or grain sharks, you can have them in there. They kind of in your case, when you go to, you know, Sealife center in London and you see a great nurse shark or sand tiger shark that I do. Right. I always remember I probably tell this story before, but when I was younger, my cousins, they went on a family trip to Orlando and I knew they were going to see you out and I knew they were going to see sharks in a tank and go through that tube that everyone does, and the sharks swimming around everywhere.

00:38:58:08 – 00:39:16:11
And I was so, like heartbroken and jealous that they were going to do that. And then when they came over to the house to see them, they had like great white shark too. My two cousins had great white shark t shirts on and I thought, oh man, I shouldn't have that in front of the oh no, no, I it was a bit rude not rubbing my face and then it.

00:39:16:17 – 00:39:41:20
Well, absolutely. But I was just thinking, would I ever get a chance will I ever get a chance in my life to see a great white shark, like, okay, here's a question for you. Would you ever do a cage dive? Yes. With Great White shark. Yeah, 100%. I am going to do that before Friday. And you really?

00:39:41:21 – 00:40:03:21
Well, how how can you be, like, fascinated. And you got an opportunity to come face to face with me because I've seen other other videos where great white sharks are gnashing at the cage and it's like, I get in there sometimes. Well, yeah, I've seen one get in there a recent one where one got in there and then it eventually came out, but the diver was inside the cage and they were saying to it, is anyone in there?

00:40:03:21 – 00:40:20:07
Is anyone is no, no, no one's in. Oh my God, like Tom's in there or something. And I would just go, is he really in there? Yeah, he was in there. It was in there and he got out. But I think if I was there, I'd be like, he's dead. He's dead. Cut the cake, cut the cake. And I tell you, because he might be alive.

00:40:20:07 – 00:40:46:06
He's dead, he's dead. Cut the cage. Cut the cage. We say the shark to the shark in the cage. The line mate. Do you know I. The thing is, like, I would love to be able to say yes, I want to do this, and I will give you an opportunity. You would do it, and then they would take me to the harbor and they'd be like, right, you need to get on the boat now.

00:40:46:06 – 00:41:05:03
And I'll be like, is that a joke? Like, the boat is the size of me, you know, it's tiny. And they're like, we've done close on 2000 shark dies. This boat, like you're going to be safe. I would want a, like, a cruise liner just to be safe. Yeah, I the boat needs to be bigger because. Super. Yeah.

00:41:05:07 – 00:41:25:04
You see great white sharks and they flank on the side of these boats and everyone's like, oh cool. That's a big one. It's the size of the boat. Fucking can't be a boat, you know. Not big. Yeah, that and then and then having to put a wetsuit on and have your legs and again I don't know why they do this.

00:41:25:04 – 00:41:44:16
Maybe you can educate me. What? Why do people go off backwards? So I'm just like, oh, that's just yeah, that's scary. Like you don't know what's down there. You go backwards with a tank on your back. I saw what I saw on the other day that got me Rick. And not often the shark videos that I still get me like, oh, look at them, guy.

00:41:44:18 – 00:42:03:19
I've ever seen it before. Yeah. Or it's like, I don't know, I can kind of like, guess what's going to happen. There's a guy, these fuckers, they go out in the kayaks, right. And it's not, it's not Tiger Shroff. That's like a shark around me. This is one Rick's favorite video, which is of a man. Just type two.

00:42:03:19 – 00:42:22:09
Tiger shark rammed me. Until I'm going to I am going to repost that on our Instagram as well. But there's another one. He's in the middle of the ocean, Rick. And he's feet. He's not really feet inside the kayak. He's got his feet dangling down over like a kayak into the ocean, and he's just fiddling around with fish guts.

00:42:22:11 – 00:42:45:22
It's a little, mate. He's got a camera mounted at the back of his kayak so he can't see what you can see, which is he's looking out to the ocean. What do you see coming up to him, fin? Yeah, of course you do. Show tiger shark fin comes right up to the boat. He sees it last minute, brings his feet in and just carries on.

00:42:45:22 – 00:43:03:13
What he's doing is fucking. Oh, got me, got me. But there's another one as well. God, there's a there's one where the man jumps off the pier. I think we might have talked about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's one that looks fake. This one looks completely real. And that got to me. I see one sharks and underwater structures.

00:43:03:15 – 00:43:26:22
But I've got an issue with that as well. Like he is underwater. They're terrified. They're because that one's been CGI quite a bit. And it's been played with an edit. The one that I'm, I don't know whether to, it's real. They know whether to believe that one or not. And actually, I'll mention his name when I was at the football the other day.

00:43:27:03 – 00:43:48:12
Nick, how's it go? Nick. He said, you have to bring up the YouTube channel. Of what? I can't remember the name. Is it Malibu Artist or something like that? Is that his name? Yeah. Malibu is. He does the drones. He sends the drones up. Tell the people about. Yeah, tell them about that. I've had email exchange with him.

00:43:48:14 – 00:44:07:10
Have you read it? Yeah. When I was doing the no holds barred part, I was going to interview him. No way. He any kind of exploded. And they kind of I think it I just, I don't know, it just didn't happen. But what he does he sends up drones to I guess he was just doing it for wildlife.

00:44:07:10 – 00:44:32:01
Wasn't specifically focusing on on sharks. He was just interested in flying drones around, like with, you know, beaches and stuff. And what you found really quickly was the fact of how many great white sharks typically are in this area of California where he filmed. Yeah. But more importantly, and this is the stuff you can see on his YouTube channels, how close they get to surfers and kids.

00:44:32:03 – 00:44:49:12
But a boogie boarding. Yeah. And the people are not even aware. There's this one. There's this footage of the shot, the only aware when they see the drone flying overhead, they know that the drone means that there's a shark there. Yeah, but there's these gigantic sharks, and it just like within five feet of the surfers. And the surfers don't know to that.

00:44:49:14 – 00:45:15:01
And what it teaches you is actually they're not mindless killing machines that want to eat who all human beings. Occasionally it happens, but the amount of interactions between the sharks and humans and the tiny number of attacks that there are, means that it really not interested in that at all. Honestly. Like the check out the YouTube channel Malibu Artist or something like that.

00:45:15:03 – 00:45:46:10
And you wouldn't you would not believe how many great white sharks and sharks in general that you see and the proximity to swimmers, surfers, whatever, and how close that humans actually are and how they interact every single day. It is fucking mental. Yeah. Now, what you just said there about shark attacks and humans as sharks is your thing.

00:45:46:12 – 00:46:18:20
What do you do? You have a, a fact that people need to know about sharks. Is that or not even need to know just just a general fact that you think that is just not really. No. Okay. What what? Well, a common misconception that about sharks that people always say, oh, sharks are I, I don't always want to attack humans or sharks or like what I do this or what I do that.

00:46:18:22 – 00:46:42:09
Well, I or something about finning. Is that what you call them motherfuckers? Yeah. Because you do often. Yeah. You have a drink? Can you tell me about Shark fin and then you go off with my number? I fuck you now. I'm. I'm locked in here for 20 minutes. Yeah. Well, there's this process of use in the in the east, in certain sections.

00:46:42:09 – 00:47:08:02
Certain sections of Asia. Yeah. They, the shark fin soup is deemed to be like a it's like a having a rhino horn in your front room. It's a status thing. And often when people get married, they will serve shark fin soup as, a starter. The problem is the way shark fin soup is these sharks are not obviously not farmed.

00:47:08:02 – 00:47:38:04
They're caught in the wild and they they have their fins cut from their bodies, and then they're thrown back alive into the sea. No good for them to drown, right. So the problem is, is that you said what was this was it's like eating cows or anything like that, or chickens or any kind of meat industry or food industry is similar, but fin adds no taste to the soup and it has no nutritional genuine nutritional value.

00:47:38:05 – 00:48:00:07
Value to the soup either. So it's merely cutting them off just for the sake of saying to show, yeah, yeah, that's shit. Fuck me off. But I did actually want to, I did, I did want to go back to what you said. You're my favorite shark attack. Because I think also that the one in Egypt lost last year, as I mentioned already, because the whole thing was caught on camera from start to finish.

00:48:00:09 – 00:48:21:18
And you can hear the boy, these 24 year old Russian guy. Yeah. Screaming for his dad. I want to say favorite. It's like, makes me feel sick watching it, right. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's horrendous. It's horrendous. And he's getting hit by a tiger shark. In in terms of like, the places you can swim on Earth, that's the most dangerous.

00:48:21:20 – 00:49:02:12
Egypt's got to be up there in the Red sea. There's been lots 5 or 6 attacks in the last four years. Fucking. Oh, yeah, three of them fail. And, there's there are some reasons why that might be in terms of, the increased shipping in the area, the amount of waste that gets thrown over, the change in temperatures driving sharks closer to shore, much more likely to come into contact with humans, especially tiger sharks, were kind of a little bit more indiscriminate than, than great whites in that if you're in the water with a tiger shark, you'll be interested enough in you to come up and try and bite you.

00:49:02:13 – 00:49:19:15
Like if you've seen those footage of these divers that try and that they're redirecting tiger sharks as they come up to, then they put that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So it doesn't look like the tiger sharks are going to attack them, but it definitely approaches them and opens a mouth. So they would they potentially would, would bite down.

00:49:19:17 – 00:49:43:21
And what happens with this kid is he's trying to swim away from it. It grabs hold of him and it just fucking tears them apart. There's one bit where he's he's he's been hit and he's screaming for his dad because you can hear him saying, Papa. And then he just moves about 12ft in the water and you know, the shark's got him by the torso and it's just moving him along.

00:49:43:23 – 00:50:09:18
And this is a grown man like he's 13, 12 or 13 stone and he's been moved around like he's nothing. And then all of a sudden he gets twisted. So the shark's obviously twisted and his legs go up in the air as well. That is the most horrific, one of the most horrific things I've seen. And it's also probably the best documented shark attack that you'll see so close to shore, so clear as well in it.

00:50:09:22 – 00:50:30:09
Yeah. I've never seen anything like that. This is another one of these, that it was a Army vehicle, like Navy, Navy, ship. And it's like custom for them when they're in the middle of the ocean just to jump in and have a swim. Like, fuck that. Do you know? I mean, right there in the middle of the ocean, they'll just jump in for a swim.

00:50:30:09 – 00:50:49:20
Like there ain't, like, 1000ft of ocean or whatever it is. But I can't believe they, And the shark turns up and they start shooting in the water to try and get it away, but ends up in the leg of a woman. No, I can't really see much, but it happens. Yeah, I need to have a look at that.

00:50:49:22 – 00:51:11:18
So I've we've got one. Shark story said after you mentioned in being in the the open sea. So a few years ago, I went solo traveling around Indonesia from finishing up with a few days on Komodo Island to see the dragons. Such a cool place. If ever you get the chance to go, I'd love to fucking go.

00:51:11:20 – 00:51:32:20
In the end, I had a day free so I booked to go snorkeling on the coral reefs. It was only when I got on the boat I realized everyone else was scuba diving, and I was the only one snorkeling. It didn't bother me, but did mean at each stop, the group of divers went down and I was on my own at the surface.

00:51:32:22 – 00:51:55:14
On the final stop, they said there was a current on this reef so the boat would drop us off, drive to the end of the reef and we would get pulled slowly towards them. The divers headed down and out of sight and the boat pulled away, leaving me on my own. Out in the middle of the reef. The boat was about a kilometer away.

00:51:55:14 – 00:52:20:12
Yeah, I could just see it. It was all fine. It was all fine to begin with. I was diving down to look at the giant manta rays and other animals having a great time until I saw something in the corner of my eye. I turned around and could see shark was coming towards me. The thing I really remember was just how quiet it was.

00:52:20:14 – 00:52:48:04
No real noises as I was trying to keep my head under the water so I could keep sight of it, and literally no one else about or on any land nearby. I was trying to stay still as possible, hoping it wasn't looking at me as food about my size. The shark was slowly approaching. It got within a couple of meters, close enough so I could see the white tip on its fin.

00:52:48:06 – 00:53:24:11
It got pretty close before heading past and started circling again. It did this a few times before thankfully heading away, and I made a pretty quick swim to the boat. All in all, a pretty terrifying experience and a reminder that Indonesian health and safety is pretty lax. Can you can you imagine being in the open sea like you just saying about the Navy jumping, you got, you know, to the north west, south east, just just see, you can see a boat in the distance a kilometer away.

00:53:24:13 – 00:53:44:09
The divers, they're all out of sight. They're all dead. Deep dive in. And you're just they're so grown. So one of one of the ways to remain safe is don't go. Don't be on your own in groups. You're much safer, right? I'm not sure, because I got picked off. I also lost probably the last shark. You want to be in the sea with a white tip?

00:53:44:11 – 00:54:01:10
Really? Yeah. I probably the hands down the most aggressive shark in the water. Really? Yeah, but I don't know if he was that close. It might not have been a white tip. You might have seen that. But they're generally oceanic, so they're not necessarily in the reefs. And that's how far the reef out. I'm not sure he knew.

00:54:01:14 – 00:54:32:13
He knows what he saw. So let's just take it as is that. Because they get so they don't get food all the time. They're out in the ocean. So they have to take every opportunity to feed themselves. Yeah. So you often see, super aggressive behavior from oceanic white tips and that if not most shocked that their fins, pictorial fins point downwards when they look at the kind of attack, but it's the most evident in them.

00:54:32:15 – 00:54:52:06
They almost arch their back and that that the tip that the pectoral fins go down. Okay. Down. They don't don't they're not straight down. They'll bend. It's almost like they this is the quickest way I'm going to travel for the water while I attack you kind of thing. I don't know why why they do it, but it's that it's like their attack posture and you see it have the in them.

00:54:52:08 – 00:55:23:01
Yeah. They're also. Yeah. See like all of this all the stuff we're discussing a lot again being in a cage or going spearfishing or just on a coral reef or anything like that, it's just I like I know what's there, man. I know that there. I never, ever want to do anything like that. Now, before we do, before we, end this section of the pod, do you want to game of Shark Top Trumps?

00:55:23:01 – 00:55:47:17
Yeah, I would love a game. Let's fucking go then. I can only have only a couple of, cards because obviously people can't see this, which is highly annoying. But you know what? I would love to do it. Do you ever watch these games of, You seen them online poker, right? And the people that are playing their cards are on the table, but the is like a glass table, so the cameras can see what cards they've got.

00:55:47:19 – 00:56:06:19
So if we were playing Top Trumps and then we did a video, one of, Top trumps, our card to be on the table so people would know what week, what cards we've got. Yeah, yeah. They'd be like, oh, with, you know, on the river now was flat going to deal with this? What's going to do on the flop now he's he's picked spade.

00:56:06:19 – 00:56:29:11
He's pick spade. Shit. Ricky's in trouble. He's only got a three. I've, Weirdly, Rick is a bit of education here. Okay? I've just found the shot that this guy would have been swimming with. The what? Reef shark. Oh, fucking. Oh. No way. Yeah, literally. Because when I. When whitetip, I was just assuming the oceanic ones, which are new aggressive.

00:56:29:11 – 00:56:43:08
These guys probably not. Not as aggressive. The white reef shark is probably the most common type of shark found by divers in a tropical reef. The name comes from, of course, the white tip, on the first and sometimes on the second dorsal fin.

00:56:43:10 – 00:57:02:06
So there you go. That's where you can see. So it's generally pretty safe. Hello? Still fucking shit your pants when? Mate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck that rock. And then what do we do? Two cards. Okay. Actually, three, because we need a winner. All right, all right. Cool. All right, you go first, right? I have go. Oh, for fuck's sake.

00:57:02:08 – 00:57:37:19
I my first one. It is an angel shark. I'm going to have to go with mystery. What is it? Oh, sure. Minus five. I've got a mega mouth shark. Also. Shit. Mystery five. Do you know about my job to tell you? Yeah. Go on. And it in a cool mega mouth shark's massive mouth. Now, finally, there is, the mega mouth is considered one of the rarest species of sharks, and it really lives up to its name with a bit of a caricature esque look.

00:57:37:21 – 00:57:56:24
Much mystery surrounds the species since it was discovered by sheer chance in 1976. Before then, they didn't even know these motherfuckers were in there, do you know? See, that's that's what I find fascinating. The ocean is mental. They didn't know it was about. They didn't know about that shit until 1976. Rick, can I tell you something about Greenland sharks?

00:57:56:24 – 00:58:15:22
Most people know this now, but I think Greenland sharks are out there. My favorite. Just because this mental. Yeah, but they can live into their for hundreds. There are Greenland shots out there that existed longer than America. I had prepared a short quiz for you that I was going to do. If we had enough time, I'd that was.

00:58:16:02 – 00:58:38:17
I'd love to tell what you really? Yeah, absolutely. Wow. I only did six questions. All right. But I would have got that one. But just just quickly on that then I won't say any more. But they so they, they're, they can live in fort. They don't be they don't get to their sexual maturity till about 125. So they can't have babies until years until they reach 125.

00:58:38:19 – 00:59:00:04
They're blind. Every single one of them are blind. They all have the same parasite which makes them blind. They cannot see they're just bald around the in bits at fucking fish carcass and like blind while and have sex until like 115 years. Well shit. But it's the longest living animal on earth. That is fucking insane. It's good in it, right?

00:59:00:08 – 00:59:25:08
Yeah. It's good. All right. Go right. Go on then. Oh, bull. Shark. Yeah. Fucking. Oh. Okay. Basking shark. If I know, though, know how to beat you, then, yeah. And, incidents 100 zero. So I've also here got my favorite shark, Rick. My very my absolute favorite shark, which is a little bullhead shark, a bull.

00:59:25:08 – 00:59:55:23
Which is your favorite? I made a cute little I like yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Horn sharks call it as well. All right. Go on. You have go. Right. Okay I my one is a black tip reef shark. And I am going to go with the Top Trumps rating. The overall rating. Yeah. Well she was 17. Fox eight 116.

00:59:55:23 – 01:00:17:23
What did you go for the the Top Trumps. Right in it was I blacked it. So my bowhead shark, which just sits at the bottom of, you know, little reef, it's fucking. I've got a 17. That is bullshit. I think you've won this, by the way. I mean, I think I have, right? Okay, let's quickly go to this quiz and then we we'll finish up.

01:00:18:00 – 01:00:52:04
So the quiz. Right. Okay. How many species of shark are there? I can't tell you exactly, but 400, 500 or 600. I thought it was about 325. So I'm going to say 400. That's incorrect. 500 over 500. That's not right. Okay. Sharks predate the dinosaurs and are some of the most ancient creatures on the planet. For how long have they roughly been around?

01:00:52:04 – 01:01:18:10
For 400 million years. 450 million years or 500 million years. It's a tough quiz. It's tough. What is this fucking what's was just so something could, give me a chance? I like sharks. What a fucking 400 million years. Well, correct. Well done. Excellent. Well, there are 520 known species. I thought it was much less than that. Thank you.

01:01:18:12 – 01:01:50:09
All right, now yours. Nine. Only 12. Realistically dangerous to human beings. Any 12? 99. How many of the 12 can you name real, say great white? I'm just going to get them up. Yeah, great. Well, obviously, I think we got them up. Yes. 12 are considered. So of all. See, this is this is the information I've got because I've read this before.

01:01:50:09 – 01:02:30:02
Of all the 375 shark species, only 12 are considered potentially dangerous to humans. Oh, okay. Cool. Then you got great white. Correct. A great white tiger. Yep. Mako. Yeah. Bull. Yep. Just talk. Which one do we just talk about? Just just, you know, we've said how aggressive a white tip. Yep. Oceanic white tip. Cool. It's tough when you're in.

01:02:30:02 – 01:02:53:17
The spiny is tough. Can I go for a goddamn it? That's me. Done. I've got five, hammerhead. Fuck. You would have got that eventually. Yeah, yeah, should have got that shit. I got that, you got all the big ones. Blue sharks, everyone you missed. There are others here that I was gonna say. Blue Shark, but I didn't think.

01:02:53:19 – 01:03:17:07
Yeah, they do. They can be. It was actually the most dangerous shot we have in our waters. British. What is it? Blue shot. This. Are you talking about the potentially gone on the blue shark snorkel with blue sharks? Yeah. Yeah. And then they said, like, four people have died because they've been bitten by the blue sharks. And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that would be national news if someone had been killed by a blue shark in the eye.

01:03:17:07 – 01:03:34:24
Contact the eye contact and that person back. And they said that. Yeah, it was that it was a mistaken, stat that they'd put in there. Yeah. You contacted them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was like, what the fuck? You know, I'm on a podcast. You telling me shit about this, man? He was, Tippy. Sorry. Nice. Nice one.

01:03:34:24 – 01:04:01:09
Blacktip sand tiger shark, and, the nurse shark. But I was gonna say no shark is what it is because people fuck with them. They're more like puppies. But, like, you know, this show. Yeah. All right, what was the other animal quizzes questions we've done? Yeah. Well, I mean, I do one. Okay. So unlike most fish, shark skeletons are made of what cartilage.

01:04:01:11 – 01:04:27:01
Cartilage. Very good, very good. Cartilage. Very good. I knew what he meant. I knew what he meant. Okay. Sharks have a heightened sense of smell. And it's thought that sharks can smell a drop of blood in water. From how far away? A quarter of a mile, a half a mile or one mile. What did you say? Quarter mile.

01:04:27:01 – 01:04:54:12
Half a mile. One mile? Yeah, mile core of a mile. Yeah. Bullshit. But great white sharks, apparently. One mile, but the rest is the average. They quarter, they, they then you know, the this one. How long estimated Greenland sharks have a lifespan for 200 years. 300 years or 400 years. 400. You know, you could mention sorry, but you to have one.

01:04:54:14 – 01:05:22:13
One last question. How fast can great white sharks swim up to. Oh, that's a good question. The 30mph, 35mph or 40mph, 35. Very good ice in the test, right? Well done, well done. I guess, to be honest. Well I mean okay. Yeah. But what is interesting in there, no single sentence in there knows which pick up these electrical pulses in the water.

01:05:22:13 – 01:05:52:23
So distress fish. They can kind of pick up on it better than smelling urine. Urine as well as apparently best if you want to attract sharks. Having a piss in the sea is much more likely than bleeding in the sand. Tell you that. I mean, I'm not talking about in fucking Spain, Ricky. Although there was a 23 reports suggested it might be exaggerated, but there was a shark, a great white shark that was caught in Malta, which is in the Mediterranean Sea, and it's the biggest great white shark ever caught with a line.

01:05:53:00 – 01:06:20:15
And it was reported to be 23ft. Now Google, in a memo. It's fucking great. Yeah. Well sort of stray cats and fucking massive jaws. If you look at be, look at how close is like if you're, is that close to us. It's the bottom of Italy. That's that's fairly close. Yeah. I actually did do a Google for this.

01:06:20:18 – 01:06:47:02
Yeah. The closest great white shark to the British Isles that's ever been spotted where I've actually been registered. And, it was the Bay of Biscay in France. Interesting. That's quite. Yeah, that's that's south though, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Is it near Africa? I don't actually know. I would say it is towards down that region.

01:06:47:02 – 01:07:15:18
Yeah. Of course Bay of Biscay. Right. We are going to go on to I'm sorry. We're going to have to close the sharks conversation until next time. And we are going to be going on to dilemmas and something only you know. So dilemmas is called spoiled for choice. Something only you know is on the edge of glory.

01:07:15:20 – 01:07:42:11
Now before we go into those next week is going to be about addiction. So this is what you guys want. It is well drugs, gambling, sex, phone addiction, you name it, we'll cover it. Oh, if you've got any stories or anything that you want to send in to us, as usual, send it in to lads. Anon pod at gmail.com.

01:07:42:11 – 01:08:17:00
Now we are going to go into dilemmas. Oh, I'll just, just tell you. Got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad cause will give you a can in your soul alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky a flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve it. Black, black. You're safe here to get nice warm between brachial and.

01:08:17:02 – 01:08:40:11
You're going to have to, dial in for this one for a bit. Focus. I'm a 22 year old male who is currently in between a rock and a hard place in the ladies department. I've been friends with girl number one for a year and a half after meeting on Tinder, but we always had more of a friend dynamic rather than anything more.

01:08:40:13 – 01:09:07:13
We've met up a few times since knowing each other. However, recently things have gotten more romantic and we are now dating, as in going on dates with the intention of possibly becoming a relationship. Now onto girl number two. Girl number two. I've known for six months our dynamic has been purely friends with benefits in it at the beginning.

01:09:07:13 – 01:09:37:23
But as time went on, pretty soon into our friends of Benefits, we became really good friends. She's the sweetest girl and it's always there for me. But I don't like her in a romantic sense. Girl number one and girl number two know about each other through me, telling them about each other, but they don't actually know each other personally as me and girl number one, where we're only going to be friends.

01:09:37:23 – 01:10:01:09
In my head, I had no issue telling them about girl number two. Here's the problem I don't want to stop. Sorry. I don't want to drop girl number two, as she's someone who I consider a best friend. But I also don't want to drop girl number one, as I see great potential. I may have caught the love bug.

01:10:01:10 – 01:10:27:22
My question is, is there a way I can keep girl number one happy? What are your thoughts? So what's down number. So go number one. He's been seeing for a year and a half or something like that. And it started off as a friends relationship really. They met on Tinder. It's been more friends, but as they come into the last they just got a bit more romantic.

01:10:27:24 – 01:10:55:10
So there's a bit more romance to it. And he says that he may have caught the love bug, right? Girl number two, it's only known for six months. Friends have benefits, but they have become really good mates. And he uses the word best mates. And she's really sweet and lovely, but he thinks he he's he's not romantic. Doesn't feel romantic about the second one.

01:10:55:10 – 01:11:18:15
Yeah, there's more more potential for the first one to be. But he's asking, can he be friends with the girl and pursue the first one? Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He can. It's up to her whether she wants to be friends with you. You just carry on doing what you're doing. You make sure that you're. You've got to make sure that she's genuinely, okay with the situation.

01:11:18:17 – 01:11:33:07
And she will tell you when she's not. But do you say to her, look, I know we've got a bit thing, but I'm gonna concentrate on this girl because I feel like there's a future there. I see you as a friend. Then that's up to her to deal with it. How? How she how she sees fit. She might say, actually, you know what?

01:11:33:07 – 01:11:57:13
It's too weird. I can't do it. Then you lose her. But then. You loser. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree that. Yeah, it's going to be all day, man. Because if you are mates, if you are pursuing a relationship with girl number one and you're still mates with girl number two, then go number one is going to be like, you literally told me having sex with her.

01:11:57:14 – 01:12:16:21
And you can't really maintain that relationship. And you've you've used the word like best mates with girl number two. But I don't know, like, if you're getting involved, you can have to be your best mate now. Like, if she's not cool of it, you'll lose your best mate. Yeah. You can't expect the other girl to be cool with your relationship with you.

01:12:16:22 – 01:12:37:14
No. Oh, no. So, you got to just choose. Yeah, you got to choose and just go, because. And also, you know, the likelihood of you staying best friends with this girl, you know, when she starts banging other men, what you how are you going to feel? Just see where it goes. The duty is the choice isn't in your hands really, unless you want to play them both.

01:12:37:19 – 01:12:59:23
And like, not mention things and withhold information. And that's your decision, but probably end up messy. Yeah. That's that's that's, you are going to get into a lot of bad problems if you withhold information or just to be completely cool when there is no issue. Yeah. Or you could just because they know about each other, try threesome.

01:12:59:23 – 01:13:16:02
That might that might be a thing I did first before why didn't you say that? Why didn't you say you should have just straight out then I then I was sense as being sensible. But but yeah, it's the threesomes of the course and then you might not get another opportunity to do that. So that should be your first and foremost.

01:13:16:04 – 01:13:48:04
And yeah. So yeah I think that's good advice. Threesome. Yeah. Yeah. Tell us how you get on. Tell us how you get on. Now we're going to go into something only you know why something. You know, you. I was about 21. A virgin and an adult website, mainly used for couples who want to throw their keys in the fruit bowl, but not exclusive to them.

01:13:48:06 – 01:14:19:21
Anyway, I'm browsing away on the nearby section, and there appears the account name Glory Hole sucker. Meshes the account to say hi. Within seconds the account is replied and it's ordering me to go visit them in the next hour. So as the young, horny, inexperienced, wet behind the ears person I was, I agreed to go. I hopped in the car and off I went to the address, given a message to say I was there.

01:14:19:23 – 01:14:43:01
It was late at night, maybe 10 to 11 p.m., and it was totally silent everywhere. I was told to walk straight into the house and go upstairs. As I entered the house, the sounds of barking into my ears and shit me up properly. A blowie was waiting, so I marched up the stairs to be greeted by this glorious hole I was bricking.

01:14:43:01 – 01:15:06:01
At this point I've walked into a stranger's house without knocking. Dogs are going mention the background and I'm nervous for the first blowie of my life. Now here's where it gets interesting and shows how fucking innocent and stupid I was back then. So I'm taking a while to stick my Johnson through this hole because of the nerves and the dogs barking like fucking crazy.

01:15:06:03 – 01:15:31:15
Then I hear in the gravest of voices, give me a cock. That. That what? It's a man. How do I even not think of that possibility? For fuck's sake! Oh, my knowledge of House of glory at this time was from porn and beautiful, exotic women knocking you off anonymously. Never. Nevertheless, I was here now I'd come too far.

01:15:31:17 – 01:15:55:20
So a hastily pull down my goggles and shuffle towards this whole floppy cock out like a penguin. All that's going around in my head is this is some hairy brute of a bloke suck in my cock, or while his dogs are going batshit downstairs. I never saw the dogs, but they sounded massive. So this man is not going away for a few minutes.

01:15:56:00 – 01:16:21:24
But I'm still as floppy as possible that Johnson will not give in. He knows he's been sold a dream on false pretenses, so I'm now thinking about how to get out of this situation. So I did what was only the thing possible. Took back control of my cock jockeys up and dash down the stairs, taking three steps at a time, a bombed into my car and sped away.

01:16:21:24 – 01:16:42:03
If anyone was looking nearby that I thought I'd broken in and was making a getaway, never again. Lessons have been learned and that is the thing. That's something only I know. That's amazing. That is amazing. And you know, this is it is. Everybody's got one of these things. Yeah I know, and you listen to these people. You, whoever you are, listen to this.

01:16:42:03 – 01:17:06:09
Listen to my voice. Now you've got one of these stories and we want to fucking air them, all right? Yeah. Send it in anonymously. Start a new a new a new Gmail account. This. Anyone knows, send us in anything like that. Just was made a mental thing. You've done that no one knows. And even if is your personal email address, we will never, ever, ever say anything is sworn to see.

01:17:06:09 – 01:17:41:23
You're in the circle of trust that we will never say anything, never mentioned it. You know, you send it in, get it off your chest. Yeah, lighten the load. Get it off your shoulders. Send it in to lads. Anon pod at gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we will see you all next Monday. But, night hazy light, band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks.

01:17:42:02 – 01:17:56:10
Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside, we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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When it hits your business. If it's momentary bliss. Nash. Ricky. So good. So good. What do I say to you? Listen to the album. Listen to the album. Have a listen. Have you listened to it? No. Why? Why are you like this? You know why I'm like this. I know that you are like this.

00:00:22:01 – 00:00:38:18
I don't know why you like this. Why you. I don't know why I'm like this. You just. You. There's nothing in you that goes all right. Flav has just been recommended me. Some music he's really enjoying. Maybe we'll do that together. Maybe we'll like it so much, we can go and watch a gig to each other, right? Instead of realizing that as a possibility.

00:00:38:23 – 00:00:54:22
That we could have a life moment that we. That we have together, that stays with us. But we never get an opportunity to see music together, right? Ever. Not ever. We got kids. We got life. Yeah. This could be one of those, right? Because that Taurean should be. Should be. But you you just won't listen to the album.

00:00:54:24 – 00:01:08:04
You won't listen to it. I'm going to listen to it today actually. You know I will I will. And then I'm going to report back and tell you how much I hate it. Yeah. You're not going to though, you know. You won't even bother because that's not what you do. You say yes, yes, yes, yes. And then you don't.

00:01:08:06 – 00:01:27:03
And now I'm going to enjoy Fontaine's back with other men that aren't you. And you're going to miss out on it. What if they play Milton in both? I will definitely be there. I want you there. You're not going to appreciate the music. I wouldn't want you there if Laverton say so at the position coach. I like this one.

00:01:27:08 – 00:01:47:17
Yeah. Thank you. Do you hate you like this? One day?

00:01:47:19 – 00:02:18:11
Dim night, hazy light. Band of brothers playing Jones high as quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. As we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous. It's episode 34, a podcast with two best mates of over 20 years.

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Invite to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer questions, dilemmas or need for advice, all handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod. How's it going, Flav? Need a haircut? I need a beard. Cut this out. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. Hair is looking,

00:02:39:21 – 00:03:00:19
Isn't it mad? It's looking a bit like Morrissey's flop ish kind of hair. You even like moderate Morrissey. Well, the hair is, I'm not. I'm moving on with the conversation. It's fine. To me. It's like people go. No, no, you shouldn't. Shouldn't like Morrissey. Who are these people? What do they want? Why don't you mind your business?

00:03:00:19 – 00:03:21:23
I want to listen to the Smiths. I'll listen to. I listen to the Smiths all the time. All the time? You and the thing. The thing is it. The thing that makes me laugh is because I sing out, I sing the lyrics loudly and try to impersonate like Morrissey. Can't go on. No, I'm not doing it. Do it.

00:03:22:00 – 00:03:45:16
Come on. No. No. Well, go on, go on. Listen, let's sing a song. Let's sing a song together. What's your favorite? There is a light that never goes out. All that, you know. No, I'm not going. I'm not going to do that. I would never do that. I never go to that knock on, I don't like.

00:03:45:18 – 00:04:09:20
I don't like it. They are. Yeah. It's true that the the lyrics, when you break them down and listen to. They are so miserable and so, you know, covered in pain and sorrow and, but I just get so much joy singing them like it's me. They're certified bangers. That's what. Yeah, yeah. The albums are generational. The class. Yeah.

00:04:09:24 – 00:04:35:02
But because they're only like they only lasted for like eight years or something like that. Really short lifespan for a band. Well, for someone as successful as them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. You're imagining being quite difficult to work with. Oh for sure. Yeah. I've, I've listened to a lot of Johnny Marr interviews and he just slags Morrissey down now and just how hard and and Morrissey goes back on him as well.

00:04:35:04 – 00:04:52:20
It's quite, it's quite funny. I just did a quick Google just just because I won't get in trouble, but apparently he's done quite a set, some anti-LGBTQ. Do you know, this lot rate a lot a lot of racist racism, right? Yeah. Yeah. You would not be reliable, is it? No, not really, mate, but really, I like the music.

00:04:52:22 – 00:05:15:05
Yeah, but sometimes when the music's good, you just gotta ignore some stuff like that. Homophobia and racism. Yeah. That's. Yeah, sometimes. Or like, Or acknowledge it that he's done that. But then. Then I like them. Yeah, yeah. The music, you know, like some people, they won't play Michael Jackson anymore. The, the, the Paul Kelly. Well no.

00:05:15:05 – 00:05:38:17
So you front people are actually going I won't play. Are Kelly fine. Yeah I, I'm going to listen to Michael Jackson. Yeah. Because we're still not sure are we there. Still not quite. It's not conclusive. No. But have you seen Finding Neverland? I have, yeah I watched it and I was like, definitely, definitely bad. The kids really? Yeah.

00:05:38:19 – 00:05:58:07
There was oh there could be an element of he's gone now. I just want the money. No one can prove anything. Literally dead is not going to do it anymore. Nothing. So let's go back to it. Yeah. Okay. Exactly. Yeah, I think I think most people I don't listen to Michael Jackson, not because of what he did, but I think it's just overrated.

00:05:58:09 – 00:06:16:10
So. Oh that's that that's that's there are he has got some certainly bangers. Yeah fine. But he's idolized. He's like the seen as like the king of pop right. He's like I am like the best. And if you listen to it back now and you go, yeah, I've never they never going to put on an Michael Jackson album willingly.

00:06:16:10 – 00:06:40:01
Oh yeah. No no no no I never I there's a couple of, tracks that are in my playlist. What are they, a thriller regime. You can you change my with that one? That's not in there? Actually, that's a good song. That's okay. That's not bad. Yeah, yeah. Man in the mirror. That's a that's a banger.

00:06:40:03 – 00:07:04:11
That is a good. And I'll give you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's got more bangers in our Kelly. Therefore we're more forgiving of his exact rate that. I mean, isn't that the way the world works, right. You you pick and choose what you want to be, offended about it. And even if you do like, you acknowledge it, I still enjoy the music is enjoy to me.

00:07:04:17 – 00:07:22:14
I can still separate the artist from the person cause, you know, it's like they're mixed, rapped about horrendous things, horrendous things, but still slap it on every now and then. It didn't. They did. Even just in his right mind, I, I don't know, but I just forgive him because I like their mix. Exactly. Yeah. So it's fine.

00:07:22:14 – 00:07:50:20
Rick. You're fine. No one's going to judge you for that. I think the judge actually doesn't get it. Just everyone agrees that's a no. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. He's he's done. He's cooked out there. Yeah. Last week's episode on sharks. Thank you very much to all the emails and social that we have received from you. There's been loads of people that have had diving experiences, loads of people that have come into close contact with sharks, people who said this can't be the end of the sharks.

00:07:50:22 – 00:08:15:06
Sharks podcast. You haven't even done you didn't even touch on the UK sharks. And I was like, no, there's only so much we can fit in. I mean, so much we will do more shark podcasts, but I've walked away from the podcast thinking that there was tons of stuff that I didn't talk about, but I wanted to, but I didn't realize until afterwards listening to it as I should have gone down that road, should have talked about this.

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Yeah. So yeah, more that that'll be a. Yeah. And you guys have been sent. Well, we've been sent a voice night. Which flat. Yeah. Let's get it home. Yeah. How's it guys? So I grew up in fishhook. One day we all heard that first love, love the accident. Oh, I've just paused. Every week, I guys, it's, to see if we can accent is,

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Yeah. My favorites in it. Yeah. Beautiful. Say the word pyrotechnics. Pyrotechnics and I. I'm gonna play every black. There was, shark attack at the beach. Nobody believed it. Everyone thought it must be museum book. But it turns out there was this old retired lady, that used to swim up to the buoy and back every morning.

00:09:03:03 – 00:09:28:12
Great white savage to all that was left was, swimming cap. So me being a dumb ass 16 year old, I decided, fuck lightning strike twice in one day. And yeah, obviously no one knew how to respond, you know, to this issue or whatever, but no one had closed the beach it by that afternoon. So I was the only oak in the water.

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And I went out all the way to the buoy. So along the edge of the beach, there's a catwalk that you can sort of like walk up and down. And there were hundreds of people on that catwalk screaming at me, to obviously, you know, get the fuck out of the water. And I was like, no, man, this is fun.

00:09:46:18 – 00:10:17:06
And then something hit my leg. So I thought, okay, fuck, this is it. Like, I'm I'm gone. So I was probably closer to the catwalk than the shore, but I figured there's no fucking way I can swim back now. So I had the bright idea to stick my head in the water and look, in my mind's eye, I imagined me, like, literally going down, just fucking climbing into the shark's open mouth that's waiting for me.

00:10:17:08 – 00:10:39:00
But because the water is, like, so murky and so green from all the kelp, I couldn't see. Fuck, I wouldn't even have been able to see my hand in front of my face. And I was, like, flopping around with my arms. Y'all, at one point I felt a bit of seaweed, but I also. No seaweed can't knock me.

00:10:39:02 – 00:11:03:07
So yeah, I'm convinced that was a great twist, and I was almost the first person ever to get eaten at the same beach on the same day. But yeah, I'm still. Yeah. Shut, man, I but what a what a boys night. That was so good. Yeah, it's just a matter of fact there for the pump and the and it's, it's like.

00:11:03:09 – 00:11:22:22
And I wouldn't do 16. You do stupid things. Yeah. But you just saw it, right. Lightning won't start. Strike twice. I'm going to do that as well. You don't have to do it. You don't have to do it. Even if you believe lightning can't strike twice, you don't have to prove it. Don't go in the water. It's the.

00:11:22:22 – 00:11:47:13
It's the kind of the danger rating for me. Like I could be in a back garden. I can let off a firework and it'd go out of control, and it hit the neighbor's roof and you think, oh, God, that's a bit dangerous, but I'll do it again. And it's probably not going to happen. It's not really that, you know, dangerous going in to shark infested waters.

00:11:47:13 – 00:12:11:09
Well, where there's a great white shark that has eaten a person on that day was on the day. Yeah, I think it was on the day. That's where even you can even if it was that week and thinks I'm going to go to the same place where the woman was eaten, that is just. Yeah. No, you you think that even if you're 16, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't be that.

00:12:11:11 – 00:12:44:14
I mean, the pool and yeah. Oh my god. And the to feel it the bump when you like see so that the reason why if you Ricky I don't if you want to clip that bit with my face changed because I was cracking up at him. Yeah, I was cracking up as well. And I was actually thinking if anyone could see your face, facial expressions right now because it went to the thing is, is when he talks about bump in the leg, that is something really common when you read when I used to read all the shark attack stories in the library, we talked about last week on the episode.

00:12:44:14 – 00:13:09:13
Yeah, I felt a bump is is really common in one of these two stories. Now, what often sharks might do is they will bump you as a way of figuring out what you are. So it'll be like an it's not an aggression, a thing that can be aggressive. What likely happened in that instance is the shark realized it wasn't it wasn't a seal or it wasn't food that it would normally eat.

00:13:09:15 – 00:13:39:22
Yeah. And he uses senses in the nose to pick up that. And so I'm there's like an investigatory bump. Yeah. But I don't ever want to have an investigatory bump. Oh if in terms of like and in terms of if I have to have an interaction with a shark, bumps almost like getting that worse than getting obliterated by a full blown attack.

00:13:39:24 – 00:14:02:05
You're dead in seconds, right? Yeah. A bump on the land. Yeah. When I even when I got a spine, I'm just. I'm just enjoying my life and everything is fine. And I feel a bit of seaweed on my leg. Oh, my. Oh, no, that's not even a pump. That's just a bit of seaweed on my leg to see what it's like jumping around and run straight back in that.

00:14:02:07 – 00:14:24:15
Straight back to the beach I look. I saw fucking seaweed, man. Fucking seaweed. So in terms of like the worst scenario, a worst place, I think I could be in a kelp bed. That would be pretty bad. Sharks hunt seals and kelp bed that seals use it as cover. So for great white to hit it to, to be able to attack and kill a seal, it's quite difficult there.

00:14:24:15 – 00:14:41:11
Much better, you know, much more nimble. And yeah. So you know they do that. It's like the ambush predators. But seals are like well I still want to go in the kelp. Right. Because they can't hard to see me in the kelp. So I comfortable in the kelp. But I mean the sharks don't go in there so much as swimming in the fucking kelp.

00:14:41:13 – 00:15:03:09
God, God, that's great story though, man. I love that they say. Yeah, okay. Thank you. If you want to make lads anonymous a great podcast, it's already great. But you sending in your voice notes again, it elevates it. I love you in that stuff. That was fun. Yeah, it was so cool as well. Any that so relax about this story.

00:15:03:11 – 00:15:31:14
It was called a and speaking of listeners sending stuff in so I don't know if you can remember that there was a senior female listener who listens to the pod from Canada and her partner also living in Canada. They got married last week and they sent in email, an email, photos of their wedding. So, so hang on a second.

00:15:31:14 – 00:15:51:15
I think I saw this, but I meant to go back to the guy was it she a wildlife lady? No. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I think it is the, Yeah, it is the the person who did the, TV, production. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. Flying. Yeah. Flying in the sharks and the dive in and.

00:15:51:15 – 00:16:05:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the. Do you remember that? I said none of us and it's not. Yeah. It's anonymous. You meant so. So this is a good better opportunity than me just responding because I remember seeing it. But I remember I've been driving or something like that. And I didn't go back to you, but congratulations. On your own.

00:16:05:20 – 00:16:27:05
Yeah. Many congrats. Amazing. That's our first with him. Yeah. It is, it is first of, many, hopefully. But. Yeah. Sending love. And that was. And thank you for sending those photos. It. Man. Like a real heartfelt thank you because that that precious private. If I didn't have to do that and too, it was, it was, it was amazing.

00:16:27:07 – 00:16:34:03
We consummate the marriage on the evening. You very good. See? And say.

00:16:34:05 – 00:16:52:08
It's great. It's just a question, Rick. It's amazing how many people don't do that. Because if you've been open to give it a long time, ten years and you've been married, it's like, well, this isn't a tree, is it anymore? Well, I'm plus, most people are absolutely steaming as well. Yeah, that's the last thing I want to be doing, I think.

00:16:52:08 – 00:17:17:04
I mean, not to divulge too much, but I think we did. Yeah, yeah, I was slow, man. I was man. So I don't imagine it was my best performance. But, you know, we've had a couple of Spotify comments come in. Thank you for a couple. Thank you for sending those in as well. And I've replied to every single one of them on Spotify.

00:17:17:06 – 00:17:41:20
So you can go and read the comments in the episodes. And also you can send in your comments. So there was another if you have to give up one of these for life, the internet or cheese, what would you give up? What was that? Sorry if you have to. If you have to give up, one thing. Yeah. The internet or cheese.

00:17:41:22 – 00:18:07:10
Cheese all day, man. All the cheese. It's not even that I love I love cheese. Cheese is magnificent. But I need the internet I need the internet. It's got it's got to be the internet all day. And then someone else has replied with that. I think you guys should do a would you rather episode. Now, I do love, would you rather I think a whole episode is a bit so basically I wouldn't mind that.

00:18:07:10 – 00:18:29:01
Would you rather what what an episode would I rather one an episode? That's that's fine. Also, we've done so many on the fighting cock through the years. Yeah. It's like, I don't know how many more. I don't mind doing them. One an episode. Would you rather if they're good. Like, what was it, the orangutan and, fighting a chicken every time you get in a car, you'll find an orangutan with a sword once a year.

00:18:29:03 – 00:18:51:24
Yeah, yeah, that's. We can pick that apart. So. Yeah, but but yes, that was that was colleague that came back. Not so a lot. It's just on Twitter. Yeah. The backing into or going into or into, it's just exploded again. But it has football like football. Twitter's been out. Like would you ever back into Gareth Bale go into Ronaldo or something.

00:18:52:01 – 00:19:17:01
But oh that's rubbish. Yeah that is rubbish. But the greatest would you rather from the fighting cock era. And it's from an episode way back in 2014 I think the episode called Sorry Mum, but the the conundrum is you're in this unlikely, unfortunate position of being your dad, being an inch into you. Oh, good. And you being an inch into your mum.

00:19:17:03 – 00:19:23:12
You have to move forward or back, which I think.

00:19:23:14 – 00:19:41:18
It's always backwards in here. Yeah. You don't want to go into your mum any more than you have to. I think we all agreed that going into mum was the worst you could do. So back into that. As blokes you can kind of work through that. Yeah, you talk it out. We know what it is and we save mum.

00:19:41:20 – 00:20:13:20
Oh yeah. Oh you never talk about it ever again. And just seal in concrete and let it live in your feet for the rest of your time. We're on TikTok, we're on Instagram. We're posting all the time. Come and follow us on TikTok at Lads Anon Pod. And if you want to follow us on your chosen social media, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, whatever it is, we use the same handle everywhere at Lads Anon part.

00:20:13:23 – 00:20:36:16
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00:20:36:18 – 00:20:47:00
It's addiction. I predicted to be addicted to my take what you liked it.

00:20:47:02 – 00:21:10:24
That that's the exact energy. Who was that? It Necro. Who is this grim grim rapper from like the mid 90s, mid 80s? Sorry. Mid mid-noughties. Right. Okay. But, what is it? How did it go? But it was necro to sex assist the porn king. Show me your press. This is. I'm the best there is bouncing me degrading, depraved debauchery.

00:21:10:24 – 00:21:44:01
You're naked on the couch with me. I'm at rest. That's good. Anyway, that's bloody good. Well, remember, bitch getting fucked in a race through a fishnets concrete? You can eat shit next. Fucking damn blonds. Yo, let the scum stick a gun in your car for fun. Oh, my good lord, grim. That's. Yeah, that's bloody X-rated. Yeah. For, for for a rapper of obvious ability for him to choose that as he's material was a shame.

00:21:44:03 – 00:22:09:23
Yeah. The you had a he has got another song called Dead Body Disposal which is fucking horrible. He's got a brother called I think it's, he's probably called ill Bill who's legitimately really good and is less ill bill. That's good. Is less, less abrasive. Less. Yeah. I mean that is pretty abrasive, right? In the dictionary, your mum's abrasive.

00:22:10:00 – 00:22:44:10
Addiction. The state of being compulsively committed to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit forming as narcotics to such an extent that it cessation causes severe trauma. Now that that is that that that doesn't sound fun in the slightest. Now, before we say anything about this podcast, I would just like to say that Flav and I believe it or not, are not doctors.

00:22:44:10 – 00:23:08:06
We're not giving medical advice. We're not doing any of that. It may be grown in some of our experiences. It may be drawn from experiences that we've read. So do not take any of our advice. We'll take it with a pinch of salt, is what I would say. Now this pod was inspired by a lad that sent this in gambling.

00:23:08:09 – 00:23:34:13
It's always been a big part of my adult life, and I like to think I've got a handle on it in terms of knowing my limits, but I'd admit that I sometimes get carried away and gamble more than I should. It can be a very slippery slope. Would you do a podcast on addiction? So this is kind of where this is, is been inspired from.

00:23:34:13 – 00:24:17:08
And there are many types of addiction. So these are the I don't know if this is ranked in order of UK male addiction. Number one was number one. Flav actually guess alcohol very good. Number two in terms of addictions, narcotics, drugs and nicotine. Course of course. Course number three going gambling. Yep. For drugs five. Pornography six. Social media an internet use seven.

00:24:17:10 – 00:24:42:07
Gaming. All the funds. Eight. Work nine. Food. Ten. I'm not exercise. I ain't having work. I ain't having work. I had I'm addicted to work. That I work out poorly for you being a dick holic. Yeah, I'm a workaholic. That that's something that I don't think I would. I'm gonna suffer from. I don't mean to make light of that.

00:24:42:07 – 00:25:09:02
I think this episode is, as I may say, things that are offensive or, you know, because we don't understand them, that we don't understand them very well. And it was it was hard putting this running order together because it's, you know, if if I haven't suffered with the affliction of, some kind of addictive alcoholism or gambling and stuff, like it's very hard obviously to to speak about.

00:25:09:02 – 00:25:41:10
But I know a lot of people wanted to for us to have a chat about it. So that's what we're going to do. So I think I've mentioned this many a time on the pot, but they say cannabis is not addictive. That's that's what people say. And I can tell you it is addictive. Well, it may not be that that the actual weed is addictive and it might be that kind of you're addicted to how it makes you feel.

00:25:41:10 – 00:26:04:03
But isn't that what addiction is? I don't get that. Where the where the difference is now for eight of if if you're smoking weed and you get addicted to the feeling of your change in the change in how you operate and you know your eye and what you're feeling, which is a is significant. The smoking weed and THC has significant impacts on your body, right?

00:26:04:05 – 00:26:27:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people love it. Some people I can imagine getting addicted to change in your mind space. But just quickly, like I've taken a few magic mushrooms, you know, and they are not addictive in any. I don't know how anyone would get addicted to mushrooms. You'd do it? Well, I've got some at home now. I like being under the influence of mushrooms.

00:26:27:15 – 00:26:50:07
But there is very little chance to be going over and taking advantage of that. If there was a wrap of cocaine though. Oh it's getting done. Yeah. That's why I don't buy it or go near it. Yeah. Do you think you could do a podcast on mushrooms? Not very well. We can try, Eric. I'm happy to try.

00:26:50:09 – 00:27:08:18
Oh, my God, that. I just imagine it depends on the dosage. It's I don't think I'd be able to form sentences that would make it enjoyable to listen to. That would be inappropriate. Yeah, not that I couldn't understand what you're saying. And think about it as a podcast. I don't think it would be very interesting to listen to.

00:27:08:20 – 00:27:30:12
I'm happy to try it and abandon it, but let's have the range in the time where my wife can pick me up in the car because I can't, you can't operate machinery on or do anything. Oh, God, I like you're good for one thing. I'm. That's just sit in and and laughing and stuff and watching TV. But not.

00:27:30:14 – 00:27:48:13
Yeah. And think carried on life. Look, you can't carry on life. No. Life stops for a bit, which is. So what's so which is so attractive about it? But it's back to the point of addiction is there's an idea that all drugs are addictive. And what what happens with mushrooms and that sort of stuff is that they actually become less effective.

00:27:48:13 – 00:28:13:02
The more you take. It's almost like this inbuilt safeguarding for them. And I'm not promoting the use of mushrooms. Definitely do not start taking mushrooms. Or based on this or think this is a good idea. You know my genuine wish is I'd never touched a drug in my entire life. I wish I'd never touched anything. And I'm not saying I've benefited a lot, I think, from being under the influence of drugs, including alcohol.

00:28:13:02 – 00:28:34:10
I've benefited from the social situation of benefited from how it helps me creatively and continues to help me creatively to this day, I'm never more productive than when I've had my first glass of wine, but I'm also cannot be productive after my third glass of wine. So the window, the window is five. Nine. Yeah, it doesn't last long.

00:28:34:12 – 00:28:50:18
It's like a superpower and I can get a lot of shit done in that hour. The minute I'm into glass two and then it starts to degrade quite quickly. And that's, that's, that is the, that is the, that is the key with with without. Sorry. I'm moving around there right. Sorry but yeah that is the key with with alcohol.

00:28:50:18 – 00:29:26:13
You know I've done quite a lot of work in, in trying to cut it down and cut it out of my life. I haven't been successful in it, but there is a degree which is super enjoyable about drinking alcohol, which is from the first sip up until you get to a point where the experience degrades and you drink to chase that initial part and realizing that like a high from alcohol is a hump, and then the downward spiral or downward slope is what a lot of people helps people get get out of it, because you're essentially when you're piss during enjoying the first hour or two of it, then it becomes a mess.

00:29:26:15 – 00:29:35:17
Yeah. Anyway, sorry. Well, what was what do you say? You love your cannabis. You love cannabis? Yeah.

00:29:35:19 – 00:30:09:17
So, yeah, back when I was probably around 17 or 18, I started smoking weed. And I loved smoking weed. And I just enjoyed the whole kind of, if you can say the the romanticism of it, the, the collecting from, from a data was, was, was never pleasant. But once you got your gift, you little present, and you got home and you got to study it, see how sticky is, how much you got the potent smell and you roll.

00:30:09:17 – 00:30:40:06
Your first spliff was the word. And it was. It was the whole kind of, I know what you are. You're looking for it. Yeah. It's a there's a, there's a it's like a habit but like a, a ceremonial aspect. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. That's it. That's clear. And it was getting the, you know the silver Rizla and the roach calling it nice and fine and having this beautiful cardboard that's specifically in my top drawer just to make roach and just seeing how great I could roll that spliff.

00:30:40:08 – 00:31:25:06
And then the first smoke of it and the smell, it was. Yeah. Anyone trying to the right time. Yeah. Yeah. Listening to this isn't it's definitely not. No. But I mean that was that's where it started okay. That's where it started. And then it just became a habit and addiction, whatever you want to call it. And I would never I was never see this is where the point that I wanted to discuss with you because it's, you know, parallels of alcohol and all the other addiction as well on how you classify addiction and your own addiction and how you try to save yourself from saying that you're addicted.

00:31:25:08 – 00:31:53:04
So I was very steadfast in my belief, saying I don't smoke in the morning, I don't go to work, I don't have a spliff and go to work at lunchtime. I don't have a spliff and have it at lunch. When I'm coming home from work, I don't have a spliff, so I'm not addicted. As soon as I got through that door, it's going up those stairs like a little rat.

00:31:53:06 – 00:32:12:24
I get to my my rolling stuff. Roll it early evening, have a little spliff. And so. So I wasn't addicted because I was going to work and I was doing, you know, functioning as a, as a, as a normal. Well, you know what I mean? I think, yeah. I said no as a normal kind of human being.

00:32:12:24 – 00:32:48:16
And then you'd get to that part and I would smoke weed. And obviously, you know, like you saying about the outward mindstate, it was a lot of people to get rid of their stresses in their life. They go to the gym, they play football, they go for a run, whatever it is you choose. And I would have a spliff or a little, one skin spliff and that steam would just, you know, come off the top of my head and I would level out and I'd be okay with the world and everything was manageable.

00:32:48:18 – 00:33:09:07
And then I'd have another one and another be me done. But then when it got to the weekend, it would be first thing in the morning because I don't have work and stuff like that now, I, I could you when you, you could have conversations with people and you could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go about your daily business. You could walk around, do your shopping stoned.

00:33:09:09 – 00:33:30:16
Yeah, yeah. Totally. Fine. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah I'm there was being sober. Yeah. There was no, anxiety or stress. None. I was just at ease with everything. And I could be. It's kind of like just being yourself. But then that became my personality. Yeah. Just being stoned. Ricky was me. And then I was like, who even is me?

00:33:30:16 – 00:33:56:05
Even more? Do you know? I mean, that's when it got to the end. Now, when I was smoking and smoking all the time. And like I was saying that I'm not addicted. I would veer on to, okay, only Friday, Saturday and Sunday. So you that you decided to cut down and you said not going to work just. That's right.

00:33:56:07 – 00:34:26:21
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So so you that is tricky. That is, that is someone who is not acknowledging the cycle that we're in and moving towards a world where you don't have don't have that. And I know you can explain this, but again, in the work in terms of trying to deal with my addictions, the work I've done it, I've done some work with, counselor, I think I've told this before, but the the wrote the route, the route to sobriety isn't straightforward.

00:34:26:23 – 00:34:49:09
And it's it's failing over and over again. This is called a cycle of failure. Yeah. And you rotate through and you fail and you start again. And and that's generally the process most people find themselves in. And hopefully one day they can get over it. So that you're talking there, Rick, in terms of reducing your intake, would it be your first steps towards recovery?

00:34:49:11 – 00:35:14:10
Yeah, never. Guess what I used the day after the Friday Saturday Sunday squats make loads. Rest Thursday goes to Friday. Set a little one skin on the first day. I'll be all right. Yeah. That's your that's the addict brain. Then get to Monday. Mondays next to Sunday. It's a carry on. It's a carry over the. It's not the weekend but Monday is a stressful anyway.

00:35:14:10 – 00:35:51:07
Everyone knows Mondays are a fucking shitstorm at work, River. So you should just just have a little have a little one skin on the Monday. Have a couple of breaks and then we go back to the front. Lo and behold, you're back to every single day. Yeah. You are. Every single day you're smoking and you're thinking, how the fuck am I going to get off this hamster wheel of this habit or addiction, whatever you want to label it as, and you kind of know what you're doing, you know why you're doing it, and you realize that you don't want to do it anymore.

00:35:51:09 – 00:36:16:17
But then, like you were saying, there a so many files along on that journey, but as a person and you're, you know, you're putting your objective here and you're nailing it to the mast and you're like, right, I am, I'm not. That's it. Only weekends and that's it. And when you break that and you're like, you have a spliff on a Monday and you're like, fuck, I've done that.

00:36:16:17 – 00:36:45:00
I might as well just do it for the rest of the fucking week. Now I yeah, and then you start smoking for the rest of the week and you're like, right, I'll wait until next Monday and then I'll start it again and then you don't. And it's those cycles that are really hard to break. And even if you notice what you're doing and you try as you might to, to kind of stop that cycle, I think it's really important that, that people recognize exactly what you was just saying there.

00:36:45:00 – 00:37:09:04
From that, you wreck that. Yes. It's great that I've recognized it, but you need to. And I think for me, this is one of the most important bits of addiction, is realizing that you are addicted. Or if you want to say habit, whatever you want to say, but to to know that it isn't going to be a straight road.

00:37:09:06 – 00:37:27:15
You walk going to fall off and and it's and it's called, you know, it's called recovery not recovered. But it's not like you put down, you have your last point at Bam and say, right, that's it. I'm never going to drink again, that you will fall off at points. Basically, there's a reason why you fall off, why you will fall off so often.

00:37:27:15 – 00:37:50:24
It's because you you've that you've talked about it just then really in terms of you would need the spliff in order to make you feel less anxious, but deal with the daily drudgery and the shit job that you had at the time, or whatever it might have been that was your coping mechanism. Coping mechanisms are really important because if we don't have them, then we fall apart, right?

00:37:51:01 – 00:38:11:01
And what's happened is your brain is you've been trained your brain into in order for you to feel better, you need to do this act. And for you, it was that ceremonial ceremonial rolling of the spliff and smoking it. For other people like me. I've got a stressful life, is busy and like, do you get stressed by a certain point of the evening?

00:38:11:01 – 00:38:32:20
I'm like, glass of wine. Yeah, I'm glass of wine. And that's my that's what my habit forming brain is has led me to through my own action to say, this is who you are, this is what you do. This is how you cope with stress and trauma. And a lot of the addiction is based on trauma comes from trauma.

00:38:32:20 – 00:38:53:07
And I'm like, fucking war. And nothing's happened to me. I'm like, I'm fine, but you spoke about things you've gone through in the past to do with your race and racism. We talked about it on this podcast. Yeah, and no doubt smoking weed would help you. I have to push some of those things down. So it's completely normal for you to have adopted.

00:38:53:07 – 00:39:21:10
Adopted. It's not normal, but it's expected to adopt a at an addictive behavior because you're addicted to denying yourself the pain of of having to live through or feel that shit. And yeah, so what you're doing while you're, you're intellectually you're going or I'm not going to smoke during the week, that part of you that still needs the weed is there, even if you're forcing yourself to stop.

00:39:21:12 – 00:39:45:09
So it makes sense why you put your brain to go at first. I first is more or less the weekend. Let's start there. Like you said Monday and then you fucked on Monday. You fucked it, and all the good work you've done collapses and you back to your own cycle again. Yeah. And then you filled with, self-loathing and you just thought, oh, God, I've done it again, hating yourself.

00:39:45:09 – 00:40:27:04
And all I'd say is, if you are in any of these cycles or you are on a journey, whether it's alcohol, nicotine, gambling, whatever it might be, that there are going to be some bumps along the way and you will kind of veer down a side path, but as long as you get it, make your way back to to to the main road of where you want to be and just realizing and just, you know, saying to yourself, like, just forgive yourself of those things and don't be too harsh on yourself because you've realized that, you know, there is a habit that's or addiction that that you've got and that you want to do something

00:40:27:04 – 00:40:46:18
about it, and it is going to take a lot of time and you are going to fuck up. We all fuck up. We're humans, man. This is what we do. But then it's getting back on that horse and going again and trying to make sure, okay, I haven't had a spliff in three weeks, and then I had a spliff and then it's like, okay, that was three weeks, let's try five weeks.

00:40:46:18 – 00:41:15:07
And then it starts to space out and then you get fewer and fewer hiccups or mistakes that take place. But if you are in those kind of places where you do desperately want to give something up, they always say, and I was fortunate enough not to go down a real hard, addictive route. Whether it's alcohol or drugs is a support network.

00:41:15:07 – 00:41:42:09
Now that could be your partner, it could be your family, or it could be that you go to like an anime in and I was going to say that it is it's kind of like an amazing tool for people like. Moreover, the best advice we can give you is, is go and find help. There's amazing tools out there that can help with things like addiction, because it's so prevalent in our society.

00:41:42:11 – 00:42:05:17
Like the best advice would be go to speak to your doctor, go and speak to that. Like like AA is for me is quite scary. Like I genuinely think I'm I'm 100% of an issue of alcohol because I drink so much and so often. And but you say to me and I'm like, I'm not that bad. Yeah, but no one's that bad until they're that bad.

00:42:05:19 – 00:42:25:03
So, there is a handful of people, that I know, I know that that probably it's a other it's wrong, wrong of me to say that I think that they may be addicted to alcohol, but they have a relationship with my work that I notice when I talk to them. Let's just say that. Yeah. And the kind of.

00:42:25:03 – 00:42:52:04
It's the same as my weed excuses, where they kind of what's the word I'm looking for? Just trying to say that whether they're not addicted to alcohol because they they want a glass, they have a glass of wine every night. And if the specific red wine that they drink, if it's not in the cupboard, they won't then go.

00:42:52:04 – 00:43:11:01
I'll actually go get one because, yeah. Because I'm not because I'm not clear. I'm going to have a, a gin and tonic. They'll go without that night. And then there's lots of kind of excuses of whether the person, you know, addicted to alcohol, because if you've drunk all the vodka, I'm not going to go and start nicking brandy instead.

00:43:11:05 – 00:43:32:14
That that's what, that's what. And, someone who's addicted to alcohol is just why I remember this. Ricky, eat your. Your liver doesn't give a shit whether you think you're addicted to alcohol. Your body doesn't care if you think you are an addict. The damage you're doing is still prevalent. And that's what I have is like, all right, I'm not going to say I'm an I'm addicted to alcohol.

00:43:32:19 – 00:43:53:19
I'm an alcoholic. Right? I'm not going to say that to people. I'm still hot in my body, regardless of whether or not I identify as an alcoholic myself. Anyway. Yeah. So in that conversation, I'm not interested really in a conversation. If there is, if someone it's not about whether or not you think you're an alcoholic. Alcoholic is such a loaded term.

00:43:53:19 – 00:44:11:24
There are so many people who drink too much, but wouldn't consider themselves alcoholic. The problem is you drink too much. I drink too much. So I need to get to a place where I don't drink too much or give it up altogether. But fucking heart. Yeah yeah yeah. Fucking lovely being like a little bit drunk. It's lovely. It's a nice feeling.

00:44:12:01 – 00:44:36:02
It's comfy. Yes. You know, going to bed, you know, not being, you know, having, having the drink for a week as I've found. It's fucking boring. Yeah. Everyone says oh you feel amazing. Yeah. I feel better. I'm sleeping better. I'm a board. Yeah. Is it boring? Yeah. Is just film better with a glass of 100%. Is football better?

00:44:36:02 – 00:45:23:02
Four pints deep, 100%. The. The reality is, if it wasn't damaging to your body, everyone would be doing it. And that's right. And and not only to your body, to your relationships as well. You know. So it's it you know, it could be your relationship with your mum, dad, partner kid, your kids and whoever else. What I realized as well that when I would have a little crafty one skin in the evening or couple that obviously I'd wait until my children were in bed, so I'd wait until they went into bed and then, you know, scurry off, roll it, smoke it, and then all would be right with the, well, world.

00:45:23:04 – 00:45:45:13
But I was finding myself like, come on, girls, 9:00, get into bed. And it's like 9:08. And in my mind I'm thinking, get to fucking bed. Not actually, not in my mind, I verbalize it, get to fucking bed now. And but I'm thinking to yourself, you're calling to. Yeah, you're calling to my weight making time, man. Fucking get into bed.

00:45:45:13 – 00:46:07:00
This is my adult time now and I want to go downstairs and I want to smoke weights again. And I was really becoming so, rash with them. Yeah. And just getting kind of not aggressive, but just really short, like you do with children because they're not getting to bed. They're not doing what they're told. I need my fix.

00:46:07:02 – 00:46:27:24
And it's and that's when I realized I fucking am. And this is I can't be speaking to my children and flying off the handle when Mrs. Kennedy and I'm like, start getting naggy with her. And then it creates an atmosphere in the house and I'm like, fuck, you know, man. And then I'll have that spliff and I'll come back in and float back in and everything would be all right with the world.

00:46:27:24 – 00:46:50:08
And I would be like, things have got to change, man. Right? I, I can't keep doing this. And noticing the effect it was having on my relationships around me, even though and again, when you're in the thick of these things, whether you are addicted to drugs or alcohol or whatever, it's never a problem for you because you enjoy doing it.

00:46:50:10 – 00:47:19:09
And the problem only arises when someone tells you about it or it's getting out of hand. And then if you're if you are drinking and you're hangover in the morning and you get into a pattern of being hung over all the time in the morning and you. Mrs.. Just kind of or, you know, your partner just takes over and it becomes the norm then and you kind of get off scot free, you know, you're going to be hung over.

00:47:19:10 – 00:47:38:16
You know, you your partner is going to be angry with you. But that's just how it is. And it's not until there is a big tipping point that where the other person says like, enough is enough, this is gone wild, I'm leaving you. I'm doing this, taking the cake, whatever it might be. And then it's that massive wake up call.

00:47:38:16 – 00:48:24:08
But more often than not, I say it's too late if you if you got to that stage. So I'm just, you know, to kind of wrap this up a little bit as to say that is like you were saying that, that we all have coping mechanisms, whether that is you're addicted to exercise because you are scared of dying or something like that, whether you, just gaming until the early hours of the morning for that escapism, because you don't want to go to work in the morning or you don't want to face the day, whatever it might be, recognizing it is a huge step.

00:48:24:10 – 00:48:47:17
It's a massive step because a lot of people don't until it's too late. Like I've just said. And then it's about those behavioral changes that you think, I don't want to do this anymore, or how can I stop doing it? Like, what? What are the changes I can make in my life that makes me not go into my gaming room every single day at 8:00?

00:48:47:19 – 00:49:18:05
Like I'll go for a walk instead, or I'll, you know, replace it with something else that that isn't as addictive. Hopefully. But then building that kind of support network, which I think is really helpful, like, you know, they say a problem shared is a problem halved. And if you have got someone to kind of mentally spot you to check in with you to say, oh, okay, you said you you had a bit of a, a weight problem.

00:49:18:05 – 00:49:42:18
Rick. You had spliff this week. Yeah, I took all that fucking horrible meat inside that evening not to come away. What could I have done different to kind of let that steam out instead of smoking? And then someone else can. You told them that, that, you know, they can help you and they can inspire you to say that you don't want to go back to that place and be like, actually, after that meeting, I went for a run instead, and I didn't have space.

00:49:42:18 – 00:50:13:13
And I'm like, really bad. And then I'd be like, well done, mate. And it's just that bit of support. And the last thing that I would say is to, to set yourself some clear objectives of what you want to achieve, as to say, I am going to stick to only having a beer on a Saturday. When I'm at the football, I'm only going to have a flutter during the rugby and that's it.

00:50:13:15 – 00:50:31:06
Instead of it being every day, just take small steps, recognize it, get a support group. Yeah, the point is that the problem is, is though, is that I'm saying I'm only going to do that is fine, but that's not how the brain works. All of the other time is still being stuck. I want to do that. I want to do that.

00:50:31:06 – 00:50:56:15
I want to do that. I want to do that. Yeah. It's like you. It's like making rules yourself is important. I've found. But having mechanisms in place that have been taught are also crucial. So in order to be able to get to a stage where you're saying, I'm only going to bet when the rugby's on, you need mechanisms you've been taught that exist to help you when these urges come into place?

00:50:56:17 – 00:51:22:13
Yeah. Practical thing with smoking, in, in the bouts of sobriety that I've had, what I've found is that when you're so say I'm like three days into without drinking the the cravings are there. They exist. But something that was really became clear to me is that the temporary. So you may want a glass of wine because this is will habit and your brain's gone.

00:51:22:14 – 00:51:50:12
It's that time clock where you've got to put that shit in your body that you like, and your brain will do that, and it will last an hour. So you think, actually, I just need to get through this hour, and once you get through it, you're like, oh, suddenly, don't want wine anymore? Or if I replace that with another rat, like you said, having other things that that can perhaps satisfy that craving, not that it satisfies the craving, but I found eating would remove my desire to drink.

00:51:50:14 – 00:52:19:04
Yeah. So if I could be bothered to go to the gym the minute you in gym, you stop thinking about alcohol altogether. You don't think about it. I found I would run, I'd go, do you know, do weights? And by the time my session was finished, whether be 45 minutes an hour, that urge I had a gone. So not only had I not drunk, I'd replace it with something really positive, like going to the gym for an hour and you do that over a month period and suddenly you start to look different and the reward of not drinking has been shown.

00:52:19:06 – 00:52:38:18
So it's like having those practical things in place. Yeah, that really helped me. But it didn't. It got me in the end, I got back, I went back the arc, and I kind of did like a month last October and things start doing October. Stop tober again. Yeah. When you when you have a community around you, it's easier when when you, you have people to talk.

00:52:38:18 – 00:53:01:13
Yeah. You're in it together. And I was like I did about 20 days in and then I was, I really fancy a glass of wine. And instead of going, no, look at what you've done 28, 20 days in, I said, I've done, done 20 days. This is reward. That's what my addict brain was saying is the reward for you after 20, 20 days.

00:53:01:15 – 00:53:25:07
Enjoy that glass of wine. Go, go and get. Go and get the blossom hill. Soft and fruity. You're fun. Yeah. In this instance, it would mean go and get that spliff. And that was the same brain. That's the same brain saying Thursday is almost Friday. That's the same fear. Whether it's 20 days where it's a year. And I'm sure you still have an urge to smoke every now and then, but I probably say nearly every day.

00:53:25:13 – 00:53:55:23
Yeah, yeah. Because I, I found so much enjoyment from it. And like you were saying, that coping mechanism that it was just this thing that would help me get through the day and when I, when I'm walking down the road. And that famous kind of such a British like, can you spy weed. Yeah. Like when it, when it punctuates my nose and I can, I can smell it and I'm just like, almost inhaling, tasting it and I, I do miss it, man.

00:53:55:23 – 00:54:17:01
Like loads. And this part of me again, that's still saying maybe if I just had a weed vape, maybe if I just hit that a couple of times and I'm not smoking it during the week, you can't smell it. My kids wouldn't know that I did it. You know, where I'd end up also. Right? And, so it's, that crack then?

00:54:17:03 – 00:54:44:19
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly that. So. Yeah. Well, it's just a matter for, I've got, I've gone from not smoking, wait for four years to rev up to 100 to smoking Smokey Dickens. They blow jobs to random men for, for a little bit of weight. It's more healthy, well, healthy. Saying to my missus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not smoking.

00:54:44:19 – 00:55:13:15
You are sucking a man's come off a weed. I smoked with the for harder drugs that weed. So hopefully that, this episode on addiction has been helpful. And what we've done, what we've gone through now, we are shortly going to be going over to dilemmas. The dilemma should I stay or should I go? And something only you know feeling peculiar.

00:55:13:17 – 00:55:34:12
Okay. Next week topic is going to be bum hose and it's going to be what goes in what goes out. And for the life of me I cannot remember how on earth this topic came up. So if you could remind me of what we were talking about, what episode it was, that would be radio for I can't remember.

00:55:34:14 – 00:55:59:06
I can't remember it, I can't remember up, I remember, I think, I think it was when we were talking about if your partner has ever, if any of their fingers have ever drifted towards the, rusty sheriff's badge during, sexual intercourse, you know, the. Yeah, exactly. And whether we would be up for it and whether we would.

00:55:59:06 – 00:56:19:19
And you were saying that there's there's only things that should that should go in, and there's only things that should go out. And we've we've really been doing, research. Thankfully, your brother has as emailed in an article, to say what's been found in Rectums over the years. My brother Robbie, it was. No, I think it was Joe, actually.

00:56:19:21 – 00:56:40:09
What? Joe listening. Izzy. Well, I think you you any I. That's right. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Sorry, sorry, I can't remember exactly. He does this and he does this, so I everything's. Well, the, the, I think what it was, is we started talking about it and we were like, there's a pot in this. Yeah. And that was that.

00:56:40:11 – 00:57:10:06
And we, we've had emails in already from emails previously that relate to this topic. I remember if you so if you want to send anything in any stories you've got, any issues, you have or your opinion on what should go in and what should go out of a bottom, email lads, anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out and we will discuss them.

00:57:10:08 – 00:57:30:02
I just don't want to know how it may be made to feel weird for not wanting things to go in there. There's all but leave me alone, okay? Contacting the group for being a prude. Oh, you're just a prude, you know? Just leave me alone. I don't want to. I my ass. Yeah, I love it. I wouldn't say it.

00:57:30:06 – 00:57:56:18
I mean, I've never, you know, cards on the table. I've never had anything up there. A set from your hospital equipment? Yeah, loads of loads of hospital. I have fucking hospitals. Bloody loaded. Save it. So we are now going to go onto dilemmas.

00:57:56:20 – 00:58:24:09
I'll just tell you. Got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad, cuz I will you I can in your soul alone in your flat. Please talk to Ricky a flat. Yeah. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to like you're safe here to get nice and warm between Ricky, your plans. Okay.

00:58:24:09 – 00:58:48:09
There. We've on this one bit of a bit of a long a. One of my best friends asked if he could, receive a plus one at our wedding. Unfortunately, when we made the guest list, he was not in a relationship at the time, so he wasn't given one. No one in the wedding got a plus one to use on anyone since we had a max capacity and large extended families.

00:58:48:11 – 00:59:17:17
I told him that we needed a certain amount of people to say no before I could secure her a seat. It was pretty much inevitable. I only needed 8 to 10 people to say no. I updated him with every single no up to the point where his girlfriend was up next. It was a guarantee. A few days after telling him she would be getting an invite, he texted me to, texted me saying he wouldn't be coming because he had an important work conference.

00:59:17:19 – 00:59:47:17
I knew he was lying, and when I confronted him about it, he admitted that he was receiving pressure from his girlfriend and was upset that he didn't get a plus one from the very beginning. Cos I then had to find another agreement. He blocked me and my wife on social media and our phone numbers. I made sure to tell my friends everything in detail with screenshots, so that there was no lying going on.

00:59:47:19 – 01:00:12:18
Okay, that's not the dilemma. That's just, that's the pre story. It's clear this guy's a dickhead, right? So fast forward two years, a friend of ours is getting married, of which we were in the same friendship group. Despite the groom being in my wedding party. My former friend is in the wedding party for the upcoming wedding, and I am not.

01:00:12:23 – 01:00:42:10
Oh, he's not in it. No, no. But that. But the the other friend. You blocked him, isn't it? Yeah. I'm not upset about that. As I understand, there's a lot to consider for these things. However, I did not receive an invite until two months before the wedding and it's making me think I wasn't on the original invite list after all, I am leaning towards speaking with my strange friends and clearing the air and attending the wedding.

01:00:42:12 – 01:01:11:10
But I do see as a bit of a betrayal that he included him in his wedding party, despite how he treated me at my wedding. Should I attend or should I just stay at home? I don't see this friend as someone who be in my life in the future. Anyway. So do you think he should attend? Even if he was a last minute call up and he wasn't in that guy's wedding party and the other person was.

01:01:11:12 – 01:01:31:19
Yeah, and his estranged friend is going to be there. It's going to be a bit all right. Chatting about, do you remember that time where you brought me and my wife from social media? Yeah. You don't have to talk to them. If it was me, I'd just go piss up in it. A few mates would. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't make a big deal out of it at all.

01:01:31:20 – 01:01:56:12
I wouldn't even think about it. So I will say it. Unless there's something better for me to do, then I'll just go all right. I'm not sure if. What if he doesn't want to go? Then don't go and never think about him again. But if you want to avoid the fallout of this, just go to the fucking wedding, drink some drinks, come home, see, the thing for me that sticks in the throat is the is the estranged friend.

01:01:56:12 – 01:02:20:14
Now he was it. So the guy who wrote in, he advised this person who was on his Greens list and wedding party and he's not in this person's wedding party, and he got a late invite. Now weddings and people change over the years. My friendship group is not the same as when I was 16 for what it is now.

01:02:20:16 – 01:02:40:17
When you go to a stag do, it's people. But when someone I haven't spoken to pretty much since the wedding. Exactly. I'm like, that was life changes. That was a waste. And you don't fit and you shouldn't be like, I know there's this big pressure of, oh, I invited that. I got invited to this. And I went on that day I should kind of invite you.

01:02:40:17 – 01:02:57:09
Don't talk to them anymore. They shouldn't get an invite. It's, you know, at that time what's best for you and your partner for that wedding. So that part of going to the wedding, I'll just fucking go, man. And it doesn't matter if you were a late invite and you're not part of the wedding party. Fuck it. Go along.

01:02:57:11 – 01:03:18:10
Have free food, have a drink, meet up with people you haven't had a good time. Just go. It's that a strange person? The friend? I don't know how I would handle it. I wouldn't acknowledge that they exist. That's how I would. That it was really? Yeah. It'd be like they weren't there. Yeah, I would, I would not lose a minute's sleep over this.

01:03:18:10 – 01:03:40:17
I wouldn't even think about it till today. I wish I could like that really, because I know what a day I'd be in the car on the way there and I'd be like, fucking prick, you know, didn't come to my wedding. It's even a stupid girlfriend, brother. I saved, an invitation today that, I speak to him now that, like, not fucking made his bed.

01:03:40:19 – 01:04:04:03
I may as it go, right? Yeah, yeah. I like big hug another. Oh, I miss our chats. I know that lesson is he walks away. Chuck. Legitimately, you'd have that going for you. It, hundred percent, hundred percent. The problem we've got with that, Rick. And this is this is how I wouldn't feel like that. I won't, because you have to live with that feeling.

01:04:04:05 – 01:04:28:19
No one else is just inside you. Yeah, nothing is going to come out of it that makes you feel any better. So if you feel ill about something, or you feel like you're you're wound up about something that has some you have to carry around, there's nothing you can do. Things will. Frustrating things will happen in life. How do you react to that and how how do they impact you is all that matters.

01:04:28:21 – 01:04:46:23
Like there are going to be horrendous things that happen in all our lives that we have to deal with, and it's horrible shit. Like life isn't supposed to be always easy, right? Most of the time, if you're lucky, like we live in this country and things, you know, we got healthcare and most, you know, most people who live have a relatively comfortable life, right?

01:04:46:23 – 01:04:58:15
They don't have to worry about bullets hitting them in the back of the head or whatever. So generally, it's pretty easy living in England for for a lot, for a lot of us. Right.

01:04:58:17 – 01:05:28:17
So we're in the luxurious position of allowing us to to be to decide how we are impacted by bad news and or frustrating situations like this one. So you simply don't you don't allow this. The kids who have made these decisions to make your life feel loved, to make your existence more uncomfortable than it needs to be because that's your choice.

01:05:28:17 – 01:05:54:11
You don't have to allow that to happen like there was. There was a scenario. I won't go into any specifics, right, because it's just personal stuff. But I had a scenario where they there were people saying, you should feel this way about this person. This is why you should feel this way. And I'm seeing again what I don't I don't want to like, I could understand what you're saying, but I'm choosing not to.

01:05:54:11 – 01:06:18:12
I'm choosing to find the scenario where everything is as easy as it possibly be, because there's nothing to gain by doing what you're asking me to do, other than you feeling like you're seeing something that isn't right is actually none of your business. It won't impact your life. Well, how I react to this situation, so fuck off. Yeah, I'll decide how I will react to this from this this situation.

01:06:18:14 – 01:06:46:14
And as it turns out, everything's gravy and, after the potty. You can go into the specifics of that story so you can if you want to. Yeah. Good. That's good. You got interested. It's just piss me off. People be coming into my shitting in my house. Basically. Not all I do. Everything that you said totally agree is so hard.

01:06:46:16 – 01:07:09:15
Not so hard letting go. And I don't know. Still, to this day, I don't know how to let go of a situation or an issue or something that happened at work, or I still get, you know, riled up about it. And I just can't I can't let go. And I try to work on myself. I think I've got better.

01:07:09:17 – 01:07:31:24
But, you know, I've been to, I saw a counselor for a year and a half and, and ha, a large chunk of that time was taken about, a situation that, that I had at work where I was really bitter about. And really kind of I just couldn't let go because I felt, yeah, I'd left the.

01:07:32:03 – 01:07:57:05
Yeah, left the job or leaving the job. And I was so bitter and was so, so, betrayal and felt all these other emotions about it. And I couldn't, you know, process it. Yeah. I couldn't, I couldn't process it, and I didn't know how to. And even though I saw this counselor and we went through, every stage of why I felt like that, what happened?

01:07:57:05 – 01:08:25:04
You know, we uncovered it. I had a a much better understanding of how I felt and how I cope and how I should cope. I still to this day, I can't, uncouple myself from those feelings. If they've done something, I feel it. And I'm going to carry this round like a millstone around my neck because I'm just so enraged of that and justification of why they've done this and they've forgotten about it.

01:08:25:04 – 01:08:47:09
Rick. Yeah, yeah yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And the thing is, the, maybe and not when we spoke about it at the time, it's like it isn't personal towards you. It's not towards Ricky. It's, you know, maybe a business decision. Maybe it's this decision, maybe it's, I don't know, whatever it might be, but it's not. I don't take it personally, Rick.

01:08:47:09 – 01:09:04:10
And I was like, I, I hear what you're saying I do. It hurts it. There's this searing hole through my heart, and I can't stop it. But yeah, anyway. But yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's fine. And lots of people do do do that and have that fear him, then that's natural. That's a normal place to be.

01:09:04:10 – 01:09:26:22
Rick, I understand it. But you can't let people who do not give a shit about you affect you in that way. Yeah, your wife cheats on you. Understandable about her murder. Yeah, right. Two people you used to work with, and you felt like I was looked over, over job or whatever and was. Yeah, that isn't worth that feeling inside.

01:09:26:22 – 01:09:49:23
You know, you got a finite amount of energy in the day. You're wasting it feeling that you could be giving love to your kids as opposed to sitting there and festering. That not that you you probably don't think about it that much. Anybody stopping by? Yeah I know, no, no I don't know. I've there is enough distance and it's something you don't appreciate when you're in, when you're in the thick of it, you can't see the wood through the trees.

01:09:49:23 – 01:10:13:02
And now I'm out of that forest. And I look back and I'm like, oh, my fucking one. Even a forest. It was a bloody thicket. Whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, right. We are now going to go on to something only, you know, something. You know, you.

01:10:13:04 – 01:10:34:07
Went to Center Parcs when I was about 13, 15 years ago now. But the trauma has kept it fresh in my memory with a group of families that my parents have known for decades. And there was a group of boys I'd known since I was little, since I was a little baby. And we all grew up together to a shit about lunchtime.

01:10:34:07 – 01:10:58:01
On that Saturday, me and the boys were queuing up for the biggest waterslide in the entire place, when suddenly I saw a flash of white light after a jolt in the back of my head. Before I knew it, I was projectile vomiting from both ends. Probably covered a few people, but I didn't know what was going on around me, so who knows.

01:10:58:03 – 01:11:27:01
I remember sprinting to the toilet, leaving a peak to putrid trail of shit behind me. I spent the entire rest of the weekend shitting and throwing up. He got so bad that the doctors on site had to get called out. I don't remember what they said, but it's the most ill I've ever been. I've never been back to long Leeds, Center Parcs and that is something only I know.

01:11:27:03 – 01:11:50:20
Yes we were, we were there, we were there, we were there literally a week ago. I know you can hear the coincidence of the is this people know that we'd been to Long Lake where they come in and this is probably maybe March. They email and then I saw the long day and I was like, oh, my fucking God.

01:11:50:22 – 01:12:09:22
I even though I may be gone. Yeah, we know the slide as well. Well get in it. Oh my is fucking scary though. How good was lonely? Mayor so I know people. I know people with lots how it is. It is expensive, extortionate. And my, my wife for sure. My wife works there, so she's like we get discounts and everything.

01:12:09:22 – 01:12:28:02
So it's a it's affordable for us. But, it's so much fun when like me, we've got a video, are you going to post a video of us and then the rapids. Yeah, yeah, I'll post this one. We there's one that we won't post. No no no absolutely. There is a bit with your session and no one look great when they're sitting cross legged.

01:12:28:05 – 01:12:47:06
You saw criss cross legged going down the slide. So you kind of that's not the best athletic look is it. If you go the car was carrying at all like we both. Yeah yeah yeah. In the background you can see my ass crack because I go over the fucking. It is like a pair of disgusting little individuals. We are.

01:12:47:08 – 01:13:09:15
Absolute wall of eggs. So yeah, I will be posting those and they come. But yeah, it's sent a box. I've never been, I've never been because it's so expensive. And, that was the only chance I was going to get. But we had a fantastic time. And the water rapids there are fucking so much fun I had. I haven't baby laugh like that in those like years.

01:13:09:15 – 01:13:32:04
It was such a it's such a great it does week kid out and you're doing it. Yeah. It's totally apart from so yeah exactly. Somehow managed to fucking ruin everything though like oh my God, what a lovely weekend. The Spurs come along. Go. No fuck you have this. I know there was a there was a thunderstorm, the electricity was going out patient down the rain.

01:13:32:04 – 01:14:03:16
And that wasn't even the worst part of it. So thank you. Yeah. Thank you. So next week's topic is going to be pumphouse. It's the in and out. What should go in. What should come out sending you stories or any opinions you have. It's lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will see you next Monday. The night hazy light band of brothers playing tunes.

01:14:03:16 – 01:14:27:17
Hi is quite midnight. Waves surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music side. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers, did you see me? Sneaker hash brown during the recording I did, I liked it. Where is that from?

01:14:27:17 – 01:14:31:20
Where did you get that grace?

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Ricky, I've watched that video on our Instagram so many times, mate. Same. Same here. I can't, I can't stop watching it because when I'm scrolling, it obviously pops up and then the music hits and it's just us t just going down those wild rapids. And it just brings me back to when we were actually going down there and how much fun it was.

00:00:20:02 – 00:00:43:16
It's so much fun because it's Eve, you're loud. It's a feel like a kid again when you're going down there. That's what I love about it. Yeah, yeah, I forgot I was 43. Yeah, yeah. So good, so good. Yeah. It's as equally I would, highly recommend anyone if you, Do they do them all center parks, like.

00:00:43:17 – 00:01:09:07
Oh, just. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. It's not the most accessible place. Those center parts, it's like, unless you're minted, you're not going. Not exactly. We got it because my wife works at center Park. So we get free day passes. So we go and wrap it whenever we want. So it's whenever I want. Let's get to the rapids.

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The night I see, like, Band of Brothers playing Jones High is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Hello and welcome to lads anonymous. Is episode 35 a podcast about two best mates of over 20 years invited to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed. We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice. All handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot.

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How's it going, Flav? Yep. Everything's fine. Not good. Not really. No. I've. I've just, tap my missus up a tree, so. Yeah. So I as everybody has listened to the podcast, I have stomach issues and I've needed for a while to give a stool sample to the hospital. Yeah. And I can't be asked to drive to the hospital on this.

00:02:21:04 – 00:02:44:06
You know, I don't think they don't know, Rick. They don't know. Stop asking them to find out. I'm not asking them. They they want me to do this. So they've been. They want this stool sample. How do you. Can I come back? I can't be asked. Is it like a Tupperware box underneath? Your answer no, no, no, no, it's a clear plastic tube.

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And when you unscrew the cap, there's a little kind of like, a little spoon. Like a sniff spoon that, that, you have to scoop a bit of the poo in, put it in a tube, screw it down, and then it goes in a sealed bag. I feel about that. Doing that for the first time. First time I've done that at least 20 times.

00:03:07:16 – 00:03:29:04
No, but, you know. Yeah. Normal life, normal behavior, no longer. So, I needed to submit this to the hospital, and I'm not going to the hospital. I can't be asked to pay the parking. I know that lot. And it's been a few months. Lo and behold, my Mrs. isn't at work today because she has been sent from her work to go on a training course.

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Where is that training hospital? It's at the hospital and I had the car today, so I had to drop the car off because she go to the training? Yeah, at 1:00. Yeah. I'll have to take that. What did I leave in the passenger seat for? I hope? Burp, fucking poop. My stool sample tucked in an envelope. WhatsApp to tell her what it is, where it's going.

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And she was like, oh, for fuck's sake, mate. Honestly, I, I'm like, look, you can't see it. Even when you take it out the envelope, you can't see because it's got all my documentation on it. Just pretend that you don't know what's in there and just go to the gastroenterology department. Hand in safe houses. Have you ever gone.

00:04:13:15 – 00:04:36:19
Yeah, yeah. What were you going to say? Well, it's just because, like, it's disgusting, but. But you don't see any of it, but I know. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? If you finish, if you finish that story. Yeah. If you've done the ancestry thing, we spit in the tube. I haven't never watched it. That. Not it did not give any doctor vibes.

00:04:36:19 – 00:04:59:24
No, no. The the no, it's just I've done it and it was like it's disgusting. All this bubbly spit in this tube and like, I don't I get the fascination about where you come from. Like what your DNA says about where you lived. Yeah, but it's like I quid. And if they ever want to sponsor this, I'll change my tone completely.

00:05:00:01 – 00:05:22:17
But it's £8,080 and you get these results back. I'll have to spit in a tube and it's like, oh, well, why don't English in English and Welsh as well? I knew that what I wanted to do like 3% Nigerian, something like that. Because then I can say, well, it is crazy money. Mine is like, oh, you've done it, I haven't done it.

00:05:22:17 – 00:06:02:06
My sister and it would be the same with you. Yeah, same, same. So you won't be surprised to know there was like something that 50% was, south south India, which is where my family from. Yeah. There was like 15. No, England, not Scotland, not Wales, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland, Portugal as well. And the thing is as well with my surname, my grandad did this thing where he wrote off to understand where surnames come from and how they're formed and stuff like that.

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And apparently my surname is a combination between Irish and Portuguese, from where Portuguese settlers arrived in Ireland. Southern Ireland had families and then they sailed and enslaved parts of the world. Column here and it went around. All I'm hearing is your granny got dicked down all over Europe. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Loads of it.

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Never mind all that shit about, you know, Portuguese Islands. She's just. Just loved it. Just loved it a love dig that love getting filled up.

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Many men. Yeah I.

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The, last episode on addiction. We have so many emails and social DMs and everything. So there was a lot of people that this hit a nerve with, whether they, they recognized listening to us to talk. And especially when I was saying about when I wasn't addicted to weed, and then I was saying I would only have a smoke at the weekend, then it creep into Friday, Saturday, Sunday, then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and so forth.

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And you're just making excuses for yourself so they recognize that within themselves and that their patterns of behavior that they can nip in the bud. People were also in the thick of addiction and they found it very helpful and others. But on the other side of their journey and everything we we chatted through and discussed, it was just so, it it must have really kind of hit home to people.

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So if you haven't listened to that episode, go back episode 34 addiction and you might get something from there that, might ring home to you. So can listen to that. Spotify comment comments on that. So there was a would you rather again, obviously take it or leave it, would you rather never be able to orgasm again or be able to orgasm just fine, but also say infrequently and have an amazing orgasm at the worst possible time?

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E.g. for flash? Yeah. During talkSPORT. Right? Me I would orgasm in public. So keep in mind this person said is an incredibly good orgasm. Yeah. To be can't you don't know when it's going to come. No I probably do I do that. Do the second one. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh for sure I would not want to miss out on it.

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And plus I would, I could orgasm right now and you'd never know. It's so good. Yeah I would say that your eyes roll back. No, I'd be like, nah, either he's kissing or he's done a lot, but what? This is the other thing I've got, I have an incredible talent in that it can be as high as a kite, but no one knows.

00:09:10:22 – 00:09:30:02
Yeah, that is true. You you back in the day couldn't do that rig. You know, I didn't have that talent you had. You, in fact, you didn't have. It wasn't that you lacking talent? It was the opposite of that. It was. Yeah, I, I just let my guard down and wanted to feel how I wanted to feel. And I was just enjoying it.

00:09:30:02 – 00:09:45:18
No, I just want to spend a lot of my time trying to worry about how I was looking. I just, I just look how I look, I just look how I look. I need to be like Rick. He can't look like. Saw your face. Let's copy you. All right. I've done it. And you're like, it's the same Rick.

00:09:45:18 – 00:10:04:20
You haven't done anything like holds a lip in. Well, I open your eyes. It's like, do something. You did nothing, Rick. We're in the kids. It bounces off right there. Fucking suit your face out. There's only one side where I've. I've only ever noticed it with you. Where I was just like he is. I've never seen him like this.

00:10:04:20 – 00:10:28:03
He. He's mangled, Joe. Mangled. That was when we went for your. It was like, Was it your fake stag do where we were supposed to be going to the festival, and he got called off, but we went down there anyway. We were in that club. Yeah, yeah, you you were highly pickled. Were you there? Yeah, I was there.

00:10:28:05 – 00:10:47:05
You were wearing sunglasses inside the club. Do you remember sitting down and then taking them off and then putting them on again? But no, like I don't have any recollection of that at all. Was this a new man? Yeah. Nicky made the mixes with there. Lee. I have no recollection I to be there, but I don't remember. You be in the club with us.

00:10:47:07 – 00:11:12:04
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It was, it was a it was a good turn. Yeah. It was a bloody good. And anyway, another comment that's. Come on which not took me by surprise, but someone had a topic suggestion which I've not even put it in there. Good music. It would be good to hear what music you both like, and what specific tracks remind you of certain times in your life.

00:11:12:04 – 00:11:48:16
Good. That's good. I've got some already. Yeah, it's about art, you know. No. Don't go. No, actually, give, give one. Just a little crumb. I don't want to, I don't I, I don't want anyone to know what I myself don't. Do you don't you do you fucking nosy parker. The. No. Look, especially being young, I want to go into this in more detail when we do the part, but being young started talking to girls, having the summer like there's a couple of albums when I was like 15, 16 that take me right back to that moment.

00:11:48:18 – 00:12:10:11
Yeah, we'll talk about. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I've got like my music taste has changed over the years. There are a couple of the early parts which. Oh, and there's a couple of middle bits here. This is going to be interesting. Yeah, I know a lot of my mates used to take the piss out of me as well for some of my music choices, but what's your favorite band?

00:12:10:13 – 00:12:40:03
Right. Say it. So it's it's not a I say Y6. It's not. It plays it good. We say it together after 333123. Pretty safe. How power. You're. It's what it is. British. Leave her. It's not a British. Say you know what? You know why that came up? It says when? Whenever we were mangled. Right. It was round your flat, just off our tits.

00:12:40:05 – 00:13:00:08
Would you put a music on and be. Would be at the top. And I'd always just see British see power. And you'd have two albums like Ricky had all of his albums loaded into iTunes. So we just play off his all of the music that he had. And British people are like, free, free British keep our albums, that that's where that comes from.

00:13:00:10 – 00:13:29:24
That's amazing. And that's true as well. Yeah. So there's a there's a warning at the beginning of this podcast, something only you know, it's a powerful, it's a bloody powerful one. And it's relative to the topic of the podcast. But before we jump in, you heard Flav and I talking about a clip we posted on Instagram, which we absolutely love, posted it on TikTok as well, and I've been doing this thing.

00:13:29:24 – 00:14:09:24
So I started getting our TikTok account going, and I set myself a target on the 13th of August to post something on our TikTok account every single day, and I have done that for the main part, I missed one day where I schedule two videos on the same day and I didn't realize it doesn't matter. I'm still going to be continuing posting video clips of the podcast on our TikTok and Instagram and Facebook wherever you want to follow us, wherever you choose to get your social, we will be there and you can follow us at last anon part, and you can watch what all the clips and see as much content as you want.

00:14:09:24 – 00:14:33:09
We've had one viral clip, one viral clip of me. We have had one boy. Okay. What was what was that? It was a it's gone up to 70,000 video views. Yeah. And it's a clip of you discussing that's how mates should suck each other. Right. So this is something you say in a podcast like this. You know, it's been listened to by it.

00:14:33:09 – 00:14:54:03
You know, X amount of people. We're pretty safe. Yeah. People listening to this actually are like, you know, they mean that. They probably know most of us know us from the fighting cock or what are you doing? Yeah. And then other people, I've come into it as well. Right. But they know what. Yeah. So they know the kind of context when something goes viral on TikTok is a different experience because they don't know us.

00:14:54:03 – 00:15:11:16
They think that I'm genuinely walking around trying to suck all my mates off. I'm thinking they should stop me up and comparing it to just giving you mate a lift to the airport. Yeah, well, being a move house, I still stand by it, but but but you leave the comments. You know, I'm just not gonna read the comments anymore because I have you read the comments there.

00:15:11:16 – 00:15:31:09
A couple of them. They're all in grins and they're all like, yeah, we should do this. And they're all like, and they're tagging their mates in in all the comments saying, see, I told you is normal. Nice stuff. Right? It was the complete opposite reaction I thought that it would have if it even got looked at. But yeah, it's amazing.

00:15:31:11 – 00:15:54:00
So come give us a follow. Right. We're going to jump straight into the main topic today, which I don't know how we got here and I don't really know how we're going to get through this, but we will. It's pumphouse. And what should go in and what should go out. Now I want to start this, first of all, chat.

00:15:54:01 – 00:16:34:09
I believe this has come from and I'm maybe assuming I believe this has come. We're at the bottom. Oh, we are at the bottom. Are we are we are we are literally. Well, let's say what happened I believe this is come from a WhatsApp conversation in the lads chat. And I think you took umbrage that if there was a suggestion that if you were to have a stray finger inserted into your bottom, that you wouldn't be too happy about it and only one thing comes out poo and nothing goes in.

00:16:34:11 – 00:17:01:03
Yeah, ever. Yeah, okay. And a listener had picked up on that laugh. Sounded just like me. Nothing goes up there strictly a one way street. Yeah. Mrs. often jokes about it and tries to pop a finger in there, often jokes about how tightly I clench my cheeks to the point where it's called the cigar cutter. It will chop anything that tries to enter.

00:17:01:05 – 00:17:24:24
Now, I think. So where this came from originally was those conversations in our which I think people were a bit more. Yeah. Oh, are you up to it conversations a little bit as well. Yeah, yeah. Go for it. Let's they start with that then. Well it's not the I got attacked by the Brexit I think you felt attacked.

00:17:24:24 – 00:17:48:04
I don't think you got physically attacked. They, they said I was like I need like I was like like I can't remember the words. But they were suggesting that I was, had no adventure about me in the bedroom. That's what that's the feeling I was left with. He was a missionary missionary for that, was it? Yeah. It was that kind of thing.

00:17:48:04 – 00:18:09:15
And. And like, you're so vanilla. Like, what is wrong with you? But what's wrong with you? Why don't you want things in Europe? What is wrong with you? That's what I was like. I'm fine with you lot. Sticking things up your ass all the time willy nilly. Right? Okay, if you like. If you want to, if you want to put things up for us every single time you have sex, that's on you.

00:18:09:15 – 00:18:35:22
I don't judge you. I don't judge you. That's because that was the energy I was getting. It was like, yeah, but even then, not having sex and stuff and stuff and things like, there was all right, but don't don't marginalize me because I feel like it's not something I want to do. That's the respect I'm asking for. Not to be made to look a monster because I don't want stuff shoved up my ass.

00:18:35:24 – 00:19:02:10
Yeah. That's, Well, yeah, I mean, I do get that, but, the thing is, is. Well, I haven't had anything up my bum apart from you. You've had loads of things that people. I've had two doctors fingers. How did it feel? So one of them was before my colonoscopy. The first one. Yeah. And it was really.

00:19:02:10 – 00:19:28:01
It was a it was an interesting experience because the doctor that was chatting to me said before, before we go ahead with this colonics copy, I need to do a sweep with my finger just to kind of like, just to check. And I was like, okay, that's fine. And then he said, my name is Ricky. You're going to feel, a cold bit of pressure, which is which is the gel.

00:19:28:03 – 00:19:48:01
And then I'm going to insert my finger and have a sweep, and then we're going to go ahead with the colonoscopy. I was like, okay, that's cool. I felt the cold gel, okay, lube me up. I thought he would ease me and he slid straight to the knuckle straight away. He probably would want to massage you. Well, I just thought it'd be like, right down to the fingernail.

00:19:48:02 – 00:20:08:04
Right. We're down to the first joint. The second joint? Nearly up there. It just went just pow! Straight in. There's no foreplay. You want it done, you want it done quick. In and out. Yeah, I do, but, like, just not for the first bit. Just ease me. Just just imagine. I just heard behind me. He'd spit in on his video.

00:20:08:06 – 00:20:31:18
Haha. Are you mad, Ricky? I lied, that isn't my finger. What would you do? What if it. Oh, what if I felt that it was it was anything other than a finger. Yeah. What did you do? I couldn't, I couldn't see, so I just have to assume that extinguisher shaped like a dick. And the thing is, how would I know down there?

00:20:31:18 – 00:20:56:02
Like I've never had a dick in, so I wouldn't know. I just know as he put his form in there or like. Well, what I don't understand is a bit, I don't know. Yeah. That was the first time, I think, that I ever had anything go in like that. And then that was followed by the Collins escapade, which was a, you know, it was a bloody horrendous experience.

00:20:56:04 – 00:21:24:04
And like I've said that, you know, the story on here many a time, but the one of the things is when, when you're having a colonoscopy and the camera's going in, and I've had an endoscopy as well, and when you're lying on your side and you're looking out there is like a massive, like 42 inch flat screen TV, so that the doctors and nurses can see what they're doing and see what they're saying also.

00:21:24:06 – 00:21:43:05
But also you have to I don't know, was it an old that maybe was the NHS at that? I think it was, you know, an old is it's one of those amazing TVs. Surely they should give him a no lead for Christ's sake. We got to see what it is. It's probably one of those ones, you know, the old.

00:21:43:06 – 00:22:11:00
It's it's it's flat, but then you go behind it. It's massive. It's massive. Triangular fucking kill you. If it fell on, you can see. Yeah, yeah. One of those. So when they're going through you, it's just a bit weird. And like they take biopsies and it's like you see this little robot claw come out and you can feel it pinch your insides and then pull as it takes a biopsy.

00:22:11:00 – 00:22:31:20
And then you see, like blood trickle inside you. And then it makes you go around, like to watch the whole thing doing that. Yeah. Because you get weirdly interested. Probably about 45 minutes I think so. And then and they're constantly blowing air in there to inflate your, in your colon and intestines in that which is really uncomfortable.

00:22:31:23 – 00:23:02:12
Do you do a big stuff all at the same time? You do the big guff is all the air. Yeah. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah. You with me. The seconds day. Yeah okay. Well that yeah it's it's horrendous. But like when you're going, when you're actually doing it and it's not only there's a camera that's going round rummaging around, you're also and you're thinking okay what, what are they going to find.

00:23:02:13 – 00:23:21:21
So you're seeing everything that's inside you and you're just expecting a big black tar looking substance for them to go, oh, yeah, there it is. There's the cancer. And you're just lying there just looking at the camera. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like in high definition inside your body. Yeah. I'm not sure I look, this is weird. This is. I mean, this is weird.

00:23:21:21 – 00:24:06:08
Like what? Why haven't they changed the way, why can't they blindfold me? Well, but I don't don't you can't. You have can't you have anesthetic? You can. Yeah. Well, okay, I did the second time, and I didn't see any of them. Of course, because you were passed out. Yeah. Or sedation. Sedation, waiting for this. So when I first got the first, endoscopy that I had, I was, you know, I was sedated, but again, they had that TV there, and they were going through my throat and into my, small intestine and my stomach and stuff, and you can hear them talking and saying, oh, this is gray shadow here or this.

00:24:06:10 – 00:24:22:03
And you're like, fucking now this kind of stuff. Yeah. I don't want to wait. What? I've got a fucking camera down my throat, and I can basically hear you saying he's got cancer nine times. You, they've got to be better. I think I know they do their job. The most important, they've got to do their job and they'll be nurses.

00:24:22:03 – 00:24:42:12
Listen to this. And you know, doctors, you know who. But I have no sympathy for what I'm saying. But I had my I never told you this before, but I had my I thought what it was like. I, I was removed. No. Wasn't that actually the, the I think I was my moles on my back checked. Oh yeah.

00:24:42:12 – 00:25:04:20
Yeah. I told you this story and the doctor went yes. You've got many lesions on the back. No I spoke this is about Lee lesions on the back of your back. And I'm like lesions. I've seen Philadelphia. I've got eight. Oh, God. Oh my God. You know what lesions actually mean? It's just a mark on the skin. That's all it means.

00:25:04:22 – 00:25:25:18
It's nothing. It means nothing. Moles. These. This mole here I'm showing you, man. That's a lesion. It just means nothing. Why? What did they did? Why can't what someone should have said to say, oh, you've got some moles on your back. Just say that. Yeah, just say that. Just say that. I'm saying fucking lesions. I know you're intelligent.

00:25:25:20 – 00:25:58:11
I know you're educated. You intelligent position. I know you don't need to be like naming stuff like how you would in with your other professors and stuff like that. You know, I have a bit of decency anyway. So those are the those are the two time things going, in my bum. But that's, that's been it really. That is, that's been a, that was a when I was younger like maybe 14, 15, possibly 16.

00:25:58:11 – 00:26:28:21
There was I failed an aborted attempt at the, trend that was taking everyone by storm in the 90s, which was called a turbo wank, where you would, you would rub your prostate whilst knocking one out and it'd be an insane orgasm. And I thought, you know, there's kids at school doing it after. I would, I want to try it.

00:26:28:23 – 00:26:48:05
I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. It just wouldn't go. I would have done if I could bloody do it. Bloody. But you bet your bottom dollar I would of just didn't have the commitment to push through. Yeah. It just, it was just like now it just there was that the sphincter was just like no, no God man during the running away.

00:26:48:05 – 00:27:09:01
Yeah. It's almost designed as if you're not supposed to push up that. Yeah. That's right, isn't it. It is. Yeah. Yeah I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. The. Yeah. Doing the running order and a bit of research for this. Yeah. Boy, Google search is an absolute. I've, I've just it's horrendous. As you was talking, I just did a little Google.

00:27:09:03 – 00:27:28:06
Oh, yeah. I've got some interesting stuff here as well. I could then quickly God's looking down. Right. He's looking down the guide. What are you trying to put in there for? I've literally given you the actual place. You should put it in right next to it. What is your fascination with that? But what? What is there? Why don't you say?

00:27:28:12 – 00:27:59:17
Why do you put them so close together? Really close. Really? Why have you done that? Right. So in, this is according to a Google in 2022, about 40% of people in the United States reported having tried anal sex, which is an increase from 39% in the 20. In 2020 and 2031, and 31% in 2001. So there has been a 9% increase in the last 20 years.

00:27:59:18 – 00:28:23:02
Regular sex, which is probably a lockdown's pornography, probably. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. But what you forget about has been pornography is that they clean themselves inside and out, so they have enemas. And imagine so that when you're watching porn, there's a poop everywhere. But the normal person doesn't isn't having an enema before having the the big time sex, right?

00:28:23:04 – 00:28:45:06
No. So the chances are during sex that there's going to be shit everywhere. I mean, I that if I were frisky. Yeah, that's true, that's true. I wouldn't say there would be shit everywhere unless, it's kind of like a bit of an uncorking where you pull out and then the person diarrhea is over. That would be that.

00:28:45:07 – 00:29:08:17
That wouldn't be great, obviously. And I think there would be some naturally some residue somewhere. But I think that's, you know, part and parcel of getting up to that mucky business of what they would like to do, really. But as you were talking about America, I do have, a fun fact. Where did I put that fun fact now?

00:29:08:22 – 00:29:49:05
Brilliant. Can't find it now. Fantastic. 4000 Americans, nearly 4000 Americans visit the A&E department due to having an object stuck in their rectum. Eight out of ten cases were males in their 20s and 30s. Sex objects bottle and jaw caps, drugs, alcohol, booze and marbles, cans and right and writing implements were all found stuck in people's rectums. What are you surely, surely right?

00:29:49:05 – 00:30:15:23
You're sitting there and you're gone. You can't be so bored that there's absolutely nothing else you can do with your time. Other than pens up your ass, surely? Well, yeah. I mean, the, inquisitive side of, you know, the devil makes work vital funds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, so stick a marble up there. Marble like marble.

00:30:16:01 – 00:30:38:24
That's mental marble. Pop it up. Think about what you're doing right. Think about what you're doing and how the sphincter will close after you've popped the marble in. Yeah. You'd need you'd have to wait for a pip. It'll come out and imagine. Yeah. What it. See, a lot of these cases where people. Let's take them a bottle, for instance.

00:30:39:01 – 00:31:13:04
Now people have put bottles in and what they've done because of their kink, they've gone bass first, not neck. They've gone for the base straight, straight away. And what's happened is as the, sphincter is wrapped around the base and they fed the rest of it up, work in the weight of the neck, it creates a vacuum. And once that vacuum has been, created, they are unable to retrieve the bottle or whatever.

00:31:13:04 – 00:31:37:20
They stack up there, and then they think, fuck, that's up there. What am I going to do, get another bottle? They think they're going to back up. Oh, they think they're going to lock. You saying, just shut it out. It will come out naturally. It doesn't, it does not, it does not. Vacuum stays in there. Then they stop vomiting and then bad things start happening and they have to go to.

00:31:37:20 – 00:32:07:18
And there's moment in the panicking I don't know I don't know where it comes. I think it's just because there's a lot of just vacuum poisons stuck in them, stuck in a bottle in their body. It's a vacuum. Blame everything on the vacuum. So, I mean, this is Darwin ism, right? It's. You're learning, right? Only to be, you know, that you have to go through this terrible process because they're willing to shove everything up their asses like the little bottles that create the vacuum.

00:32:07:20 – 00:32:32:11
Yeah, I mean, that is that is that's crazy. That is that is absolutely crazy. Now, there have been some other things that I found that people have inserted in their rectum which have got stuck and they've needed to go to, to and now there are many things. So I'm not going to go for an exhaustive list, but there was two of my favorites.

00:32:32:13 – 00:33:16:20
One was sent in by your brother Joe, which I will, read out. Yeah. So a doctor pulled out a 26 inch eel out of a man's backside after, he forced the live creature into his anus, and it started to bite his large intestine. Now, with this, they would normally put a camera up there, and they were, I was reading, so they put a camera up there or they'd put something up there and they try and retract it, but they were unable to because there was also a lemon up there and it was blocking the passage.

00:33:16:24 – 00:33:36:01
So they had to do an operation to get the air and lemon out. Why have you got an eel and a lemon up there now? It was one thing, but one the lemon. What's that doing? The lemons in there is stuck already. And then he's gone. I just I forget the lemon that's gone.

00:33:36:03 – 00:33:54:22
Getting this was all forgetting this. And then he's sitting there, right. He suddenly sitting there and he's just gone. I've got this eel. And that's weird enough. Who fucking had an eel in their hands? Like, never. Unless you're eating jelly. There's no one fucks around with you. And he's like, no, I, I'm going to put this up my ass.

00:33:54:24 – 00:34:15:14
I said, life im it's well internal process. Right? I've got to still think I'm going to put this up ass. Someone's giving me this live who I don't like. They taste horrible. Must have just stick out my ass. That's the only thing I could think of doing it. Yeah, think from the will. Not keep it as a pet.

00:34:15:16 – 00:34:44:03
Not do anything with it. Anything. The first thing stick out. Mouse it up. Now this next one. It's not as severe. Actually, I don't even know which one is worse. A Frenchman was found to have an eight inch artillery shell wedged in his ass. When they asked him, how did it get there? Fell over or fell over?

00:34:44:05 – 00:35:01:09
Now, I just said sexually interested in it. So he stuck it up there. He didn't even try and lie about it. I mean, that's the thing I love about this story. He didn't even a lot of people liberated, aren't they? They they pretend they trip and fell. And we have got, someone in who who sent something but to discuss it.

00:35:01:09 – 00:35:24:03
An artillery show. What's going through your mind? Do you remember? Do you remember the mayonnaise jar man on the internet in the late, late 90s, maybe early 2000? I do. I didn't know it was a mayonnaise jar, but I know there's a glass jar. All right. Yes. Just so people don't have to. Don't have to, go look for it.

00:35:24:05 – 00:35:53:20
I've seen it a few times. The just it would be like back in the day, you'd have emails you get emails on. The email would just be an embedded video. Yeah. Like sending shit around the internet would be done by our email. But then we didn't have WhatsApp that protects everybody from all the horrible stuff. Right? Every no one like, you know, when you judge people online for same things that they that you know, they've said and it may be in Twitter from 2011.

00:35:53:22 – 00:36:09:12
Yeah. You said was in your WhatsApp groups. It's just no one knows because it's encrypted. All right. So just give me a break. You said was even if you're joking, taken out of context you said was all right. So if everyone could just give each other a break here, that'd be great anyway. But then there was no WhatsApp.

00:36:09:12 – 00:36:32:18
There's no encrypted messaging. Right. So you just send mad stuff to your work email, you get mad stuff up, you like work in there and it'll go as in the from Paul. I know Paul went out for a few beers for your time. Yeah. Oh, it's off your man with a jar. There's music playing. Oh and he's he's he's pushing the jar up his ass.

00:36:32:20 – 00:36:52:03
He squatted on. It isn't a he's squatting on it. It's going on. You can hear you can hear the kind of ambient noise in the room. Yeah. And he's squatting down and he looks like he's having a good time. This is after 11 on the Tuesday morning for me. Yeah, I know you hear is Rick. Yeah. The jailbreaks.

00:36:52:05 – 00:37:10:11
Yeah. And you proceed to see this man try to pick broken glass out of his ass. Not you not having a full view of that. You can just see him starting to panic. Is the panic in it? Yeah, the panic and then the blood and then blood pouring out of his asshole. Yeah. And then he sort of somehow scampers along.

00:37:10:11 – 00:37:30:21
Thing. I want to stop video of this. Yeah, I should probably stop. I should probably sort this out. Yeah. Yeah. And and doesn't delete it, clips it up into a nice sort of two minute package and and shares it with the world. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And there was one I remember receiving and at that time it, you know a lot you were saying.

00:37:30:23 – 00:37:58:20
And what happens now there's all kinds of muck flying around in WhatsApp groups, men and women. Everybody's doing it. And there was one image that was sent to me that it's quite hard to start, or maybe quite hard for me to be shocked. Mean there was a lady who was on her back, legs raised. There was a contraption used on her pommel that is used to widen it.

00:37:58:22 – 00:38:23:06
So it's a big hole so that you could see down it. And a man had poured milk down this bum hole and cereal, and he was proceeding to eat cereal out of this gaping hole. Seen that one? Look, I know I was like, look, I'm up for a laugh. You know, I'm up for a bloody laugh. I but that was like, I don't I don't think they were doing it for a laugh.

00:38:23:06 – 00:38:45:11
Well what did I what who's even into that. So. So someone really loves cereal. So I know, I know I can I know exactly what you're talking, you know. Yeah. No, exactly. We've all seen it. Yeah, yeah, I just say that. I mean, I can't not. Do you remember, I can't remember blue waffle. No. No. Yes. No. Top girl top.

00:38:45:11 – 00:39:11:20
Go. It's, Yeah, I do, I do remember. Yeah. There's is a lady from. But where's it from where she from East Asia. Right. And, she's, she's she's, you know, on a shoulders in a bathtub. Yeah. So that her ass is in the air exposed, and, ankles are sort of. But brown areas are, so you can imagine that.

00:39:11:22 – 00:39:34:23
Yeah. And she's firing. What? She firing? I think it's like diarrhea. Yeah, it might be diarrhea. Yeah. But interestingly, she's got a socks pulled up to her knees. Yeah. And the diarrhea as it shoots out and up goes back on her face. Onto her face. Yeah. Well, I mean, whereas I mean like, so I plate cycle.

00:39:35:00 – 00:39:52:07
So, so with you in the whole discussion about, like, the poo in on your advice, you know, I don't think anyone who's listening is down with that. And if you are, please email in and let us know. Yeah. How could you possibly, you know. Yeah.

00:39:52:09 – 00:40:20:13
So all that kind of stuff and, artillery shell now alive, ill know different things going up there. Now, we have had a message from a nurse to go along those similar lines. When I was doing my nurse training, I had all sorts of people come in with things up there. How? Yeah. My favorite was a vicar with a King Edward potato lodged in the departure lounge.

00:40:20:13 – 00:40:47:17
Wow. I think, I think it was his explanation of how it happened that made it better. I was hungry in the middle of the night, and there was no light in the pantry. I slipped and fell on an open bag of potatoes. Yes, I'm sure you did, Vic. Yeah. Of your nose. Yeah, that's. Just be honest. If God knows already, you might as well tell the nurse King Edward good potato as well.

00:40:47:17 – 00:41:16:15
So that's that's that's I don't think you don't get you know, I think the, the type of potatoes. And now I want to read out this one is, well, because this is interesting, I discovered the potential for some fun in a fairly unusual manor. Manor? I was 16 at the time, hadn't long lost my virginity, and during the summer of 96, I had a horrific experience, a twisted testicle.

00:41:16:17 – 00:41:46:12
It's been likened to a man's version of childbirth, the levels of pain. I was taken to my GP first, as that was closer than any hospital. My memories are hazy but ended up on his examining bed, trousers around my ankles, knees tucked up, ready to accept a suppository, in my ass. As until then, breached. Also, as the doctor slid it in, I remember a very brief sort of.

00:41:46:14 – 00:42:17:19
Oh, that feels oddly good. Before being back in a world of pain. Safe to say, after this was all over, I was keen to discover what other delights could be had down there fingers, anal beads, a willing girlfriends tongue have all been welcomed and enjoyed. So his stimulation of the anus likes. It was, first discovered by a doctor's finger.

00:42:17:22 – 00:42:38:20
Yeah, while he was in pain. And then he thought, you know what? I'm gonna go back to that. I am, so I can see a bit more of that. But can we unpackaged that a little bit? Yeah, sure. If. What would you. We don't need to put labels on these things. No, but if he's getting sexually aroused by a man's finger.

00:42:38:22 – 00:43:05:01
Yeah. Is that homosexual act? I don't know, but because I think could be anything, any finger, it could be any finger. So whether it is male or female. But maybe that was part of the taboo that it was, he knew it was a male finger. So that may have thought. Oh, hello. This is this is something that's not really happened before.

00:43:05:07 – 00:43:29:13
So I don't know. So my question would, would be if you, if you have to have another colonoscopy and the finger has got to go up there, but you'd probably prefer it to be a man right. Because he knows, well, if you were to speak in the same boat, you're in the same boat. Well, I would say, like, stereotypically, women have smaller hands and fingers than men.

00:43:29:13 – 00:43:42:20
So it would be better to have a finger from a female. What about the list? Wife? Is Clive Allen? Absolutely not. Clive.

00:43:42:22 – 00:44:09:18
Good lord, that man's hands with me and Ricky. But let's see, not 15 for 14 years ago now, we interviewed Clive Allen, the expert assistant manager, said Harry Redknapp at the time and Spurs legend and we both sway. Guy and his fingers are fucking massive. So big. It was like loads of like thick sausage, Lincolnshire sausages. Yeah, yeah.

00:44:09:18 – 00:44:29:15
But that had been put in a packet. Yeah. Right. So they're all stuck together and that is what his wedding band looked like. It was about topping off an executive. My eyes. Okay. Now that's taking some tension, boy. Now I obviously have I've been researching some of this. So there's some facts about the anus before we move on with this.

00:44:29:15 – 00:44:49:01
Just sorry to cut you. I just think it would be if everybody a mates of ours. Right, who is prone to having things put up their ass. It's our good friend Leroy. Right? Yeah. I'm. He's at work at the moment. I'm just going to leave him this voice message and hopefully or leave another voice message that will be up to end the pod with.

00:44:49:03 – 00:45:11:12
Okay, but let me ask them to leave this now. Like I got them early. Hope you having a good day. Just recording a podcast with Ricky. The Lads Anonymous podcast, and the theme of it is bum holes. Things going in and out. Now we know I've everyone we know you're you're the guy when it comes to sort of things going in.

00:45:11:14 – 00:45:33:23
And I want to know if you're willing to leave a voice note that we can play, talking about why so many things. You put so many things in your ass. What what you get out of it. And, Yeah. And when we stop. So if you could leave that voice note and we can play it at the end of the show, we've got about 20 minutes to go.

00:45:33:23 – 00:45:53:07
So I know you're at work. I know you're busy, but if you could just go to the toilet, record that for us, that'd be great. Don't stick a finger out there way there. Right. Sorry. Written for someone. Hopefully replying that's amazing. Right? Okay. The skin of the anus is similar to the skin of the lips in that it is thin.

00:45:53:11 – 00:46:21:08
Both the anus and lips are made of the same type of epithet epithelial tissue. All right. So yes so lips and Uranus very similar. The type of skin on your lips is called the mucosa. The same skin you can find at your anus. Because the lips and the anus of the two ends of the pipe called a alimentary canal.

00:46:21:10 – 00:46:49:08
So it's, you know, it's like a big pipe in it. So very, very similar. So put it like that. Yeah. So, you know, it's mouth and bum, very similar. And the that the, what you call it, I think they've, they've, there's been some scientific research that you have some taste like not taste buds as in you can put food in you like you have in your mouth and you can taste, oh, that's a banana.

00:46:49:11 – 00:47:13:15
But there are taste buds in your anus as well. So when you have a chili. No, the other gut. Look it up near us. Yeah. It's not actual the taste buds, but it's like the same sensory glands. So that's why when you eat chili and you can feed on the way alleys, they it's the same, same thing. Well so what what what why when you, you know having to put the not it has no impact.

00:47:13:17 – 00:47:38:13
So because you're not tasting it's it's weird they explained it. I couldn't really be but I found it here. Right. So yes, there are taste receptors in the anus as well as many other parts of the body. In the mouth, obviously, the intestines taste receptors are located through the intestine, intestinal tract. Taste buds are clusters of taste receptors, cells that react to different foods and transmit messages to the brain to perceive taste.

00:47:38:13 – 00:48:05:04
The function of taste receptors outside of the taste system is still unclear, but in some areas they seem to be part of the chemical sensing of sugars and amino acids. There you go. So there you go. Taste receptors in your ass. Some animals, like sea creatures, can expel their internal organs through their anus as a defense mechanism, so that that is a pretty good defense mechanism.

00:48:05:09 – 00:48:28:02
Like just show them a prolapse and they run off, which is great. The starfish has an anus located on its upper surface near the center of its body. See, that's that's what I'm talking about. Maybe not, like, have an anus in your stomach. Not not there, but just not as close to the other. Fun. This is what I kind of would have liked.

00:48:28:02 – 00:49:03:06
But, you know, we are where we are in medieval Europe. People. People believed that certain diseases, the diseases, could be cured by inserting objects into the anus. So they've always there's always been a fascination with the, the Victorian era. So I rise in the use of anal plugs originally designed for medical purposes. So throughout the years of time, people have been putting things in and out of your bum.

00:49:03:06 – 00:49:27:10
Now, just to round this off, where do you stand on anal tattoos? Wow. So you can have, you can have tattoos on your actual also I don't I why what does it do. Why is, just dark. It's just that I've heard of the bleaching that porn stars bleach. So it's not brown also. Right. You skipped one.

00:49:27:10 – 00:49:45:08
So we'll discuss that in now. So it's, It's. I know bleaching an anal tattoo. Like you've got a tattoo on your arm. You want to show people there's no. I don't understand it. Who's going to see it? Like, other than your boyfriend and what is it? There's no space to draw a picture there. What I would like, actually, I've just thought this.

00:49:45:08 – 00:50:07:06
I would like my missus to get a tattoo of my face on her bum and where the ass always is. My eye. So it's like she's winking at me. That'd be. That'd be nice. Every time. I'm. What? Fuck that. Just see myself winking at myself for the sake of the pod. Should we. Should we get tattoos on our asshole?

00:50:07:08 – 00:50:27:01
Okay, I've had a reply from Leith. Amazing. Do you want to play it? Do you think you should secretly play it? No. You don't know what he's going to say. I told him clearly what we see today. Right. Okay, so I'm just gonna play it. I don't know what day. What? He says you won't be here this weekend, but the recording will really,

00:50:27:03 – 00:50:53:17
You could absolutely fuck off not doing that. That's my private information. The ultimate share with the world. You can piss off any. A fucking weird little podcast of Ricky talking about my. I also why why have you gone there? No, do not give permission for this. He said you told me to fuck off. That he doesn't. He does not give us the permission.

00:50:53:19 – 00:51:22:24
Go. Why have you gone there? That's my my information. Only you can fuck off. There it off. Well, what would you say about, people that pack drugs up there? Bum? To get them over the border. To get them into. Yeah, I suppose to get them. Are you okay with that? Are. Yeah. Is that right to go out there I, I will I mean if I, if I had to that would be what it was plug in.

00:51:23:01 – 00:51:39:18
But but the problem is, is you I think like these scanners now they can see if you've done that. So yeah it's kind of pointless. Like I know people you go if you go into a festival and you panic not panic, you can get it into festivals. That isn't a bar. That's an extreme. You put it in your pocket.

00:51:39:18 – 00:52:06:16
They never put your hands, their hands down your pants, for fuck's sake. The festival, the such as in festivals. Unless is a dog, tokenistic? They have to do it. But going through airports. So anyway of it. No. So we in terms of I'll tell this story now because it's such a long time, time ago, but we're going to a festival in Portugal and we didn't have any conex out there to serve us.

00:52:06:16 – 00:52:26:02
So we, I, we made the decision to take some on the plane itself to smuggle some drugs. So I this is all a story. None of this is true, by the way. Right. So, we, we I was thinking about ways that we can do it. Like, do we put it in, it plug it in. Shampoo bottles.

00:52:26:04 – 00:52:51:09
Yeah. So just put it in there. Tighten up. Yeah. And it was like, oh yeah, I just, I, I've not really I'm not, I fe with drug smuggling etiquette but I would definitely want drugs. I'm gonna get this. I'm gonna do this. Yeah. So I had it in the belts under the belts of my jeans. That's why I decided to smuggle the drugs.

00:52:51:11 – 00:53:07:11
So it's wraps. That is. That seems like a ridiculous idea. Yes. I absolutely think you, you have to take your belt off to go through this. Not not then you didn't know. Sometimes you didn't. You don't have to do it now, but certainly not there. And that wasn't a thing you had to do. You didn't really have to undress much.

00:53:07:13 – 00:53:28:19
You just had to put issues of stuff like that. Right jacket. But you put your belt on. There was no scanner ever. There was no scanner. Right. Okay. Just you go through and you get searched. That would be it. Right. So I'm thinking they're not going to check on the bill the last minute. I decided I'm going to put it my hair gel.

00:53:28:24 – 00:53:49:12
I'm just going to put in my hair hairdryer. We're checking the baggage. I'll put it in the hair gel. That'll be fine. Literally. I'm talking like that. She says a minute before we got to security, I went for the scanner, went off, beep him off first thing he did, run his fingers through my belt. First thing, first thing you did.

00:53:49:14 – 00:54:10:04
I was so close. I mean, I don't know what happened. It's such a small amount. Nothing. But imagine. But wouldn't it wouldn't be nice to go on all day for sure. Yeah. And then we got through. We got through. But we had the thing. It was most of it was stored away in, you know, checked in luggage, and then we would get in on the plane.

00:54:10:04 – 00:54:31:20
And then there was this delay. I mean, like, like a 20 minute delay waiting, queuing up outside the plane. You not found it? Found everything legal. That's Joe, we got the jail. They hadn't found anything. It's equality. We had a great time. Yeah, but if you listen to this, don't don't, don't don't smuggle. Don't they fuck up everything?

00:54:32:00 – 00:54:54:03
Absolutely. Do not do that. But yeah, they know. Especially with the scanners. They the scan the body. They can. So any foreign objects on your body. So it's not worth it. Yeah. They would definitely go to Glasgow as you find three ecstasy pills in in your pocket. I just, I just take the posh bottom before, before the flight, it wasn't three.

00:54:54:03 – 00:54:57:20
I took two away. And I'm one.

00:54:57:22 – 00:55:28:11
Best flight. My life. Jesus Christ, I'd never, ever do that to to finish this bottom subject up. Are you okay with, like, body parts, fingers, tongues, penises? No, no. Nothing. Nothing to cut the bottom. Nothing. No. No anus. Sexual pleasure stuff. Little beads, vibrators. There was always. No, no, I've never had anything like that. But there is the there is the male prostate which is current can be stimulated.

00:55:28:11 – 00:55:48:22
So why is it there if you're not supposed to stuff, shove stuff up there. Exactly. Good question. Exactly. That is that is a bloody good question. Why did you watch you list all these things off? Because, it was just to check what should be going in and what should be going out. So this, as far as I'm aware, nothing should be going in apart from drugs.

00:55:48:24 – 00:56:13:15
And the only thing that should come out is, is poo, which is, you know, acceptable as well. So there you have it. That now topic has been closed. We are going to go on to dilemmas and something only you know in a minute. So the topic for next week is called bed Springs. So I am the worst person to get up and get out of bed ever.

00:56:13:17 – 00:56:34:06
And actually I won't say have a because my don't and my missus probably worse anyway. So there needs to be something, anything that will make me spring out of bed. And there's, you know, there's a handful of things, this is what the topic is going to be. What are those things that make you jump out of bed with excitement?

00:56:34:08 – 00:57:06:07
Holidays. Fishing could be an all day gig. Could be something. A project at work that you're just fucking dying to get into. It probably would be. That absolutely wouldn't be that. Anyway, we want to know the things that make you just fucking spring out of bed and ready for the day, because you can't wait to do it. So send us your stories to the lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will discuss that in next week's pod.

00:57:06:09 – 00:57:31:19
So the dilemma, for for this week is called we know we should stop, but we can't. And something only you know is I just can't get enough. Now you just know that these are going to be anus themed. So we're going to go into dilemmas now, just, just tired. You've got an issue for a tissue.

00:57:31:21 – 00:58:00:22
You're a bit sad cause pain will be an aching in your soul alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky. Flat head. Let the stress of your chest. Well, friend, you deserve it. Back. You like you're safe here to get nice and warm between brachial and. We know we should stop, but we can't. Not sure how.

00:58:00:24 – 00:58:21:15
Not sure how to start this, so might as well get straight to it. Right at the beginning of lockdown, two of my friends and I started sending voice notes of our farts out of complete boredom. We found it really entertaining and we'd be back and forth all day, sending and listening to each other's farts to pass the days of being locked inside.

00:58:21:17 – 00:58:43:21
This was all good, honest, fun. Things escalated. One day, one of the boys posted a picture of their shit and we were all loving it. Before we knew it, we were all sending pictures and videos of our shits. It didn't take long for this to leak out into the rest of our friendship group, but the others were not on board whatsoever.

00:58:43:21 – 00:59:13:11
They thought it was gross. Fast forward four years and all three of us are still in this separate group chat where we create content revolving around our thoughts and shit. But it's only got worse. Some videos have been sent from underneath the anus, so you can literally see the shit reaching us. How it's so fucking gross. They're so hilarious at the same time.

00:59:13:13 – 00:59:39:15
Sometimes we do funny ones. When we put a lot of effort into the build up of the poo. Recreate little movies edited in, 000, revolving and building up to a big shit. We even have little nicknames for each other sludge troll, poo goblin, Peter Griffin pants. I literally have four years worth of mining. My mate shits on my phone at the flick of a finger.

00:59:39:17 – 01:00:00:21
We've all spoken about how it's actually quite gross and we should probably stop, but we just can't. We have days when we don't want to be involved, but then the following day we do a cracker of a shit and it just feels wrong not to share it with the boys. My dilemma is, do we carry on what makes us happy or should we delete the group?

01:00:01:00 – 01:00:31:10
The photos and the vents back is pretty disgusting to be honest. It's revolting. That is revolting. Yeah. Delete it. It's like it's every your gallery in your phone as well as I. Yeah, well, you have to turn off like that. That's a WhatsApp schoolboy error anyway. So anything that you see on WhatsApp, there's a setting where everything that's sent via WhatsApp is automatically safety camera.

01:00:31:11 – 01:00:50:01
You need to turn that off straight away. Yeah. I, but how you say you find the love of your life and they find out about this group, which they probably will because your extended friends know about it. That's a hard sell, by the way. We've been doing this for four years. Editing videos of us. Videos of us.

01:00:50:04 – 01:01:15:19
That's, I think, want to say it. It's disgusting. Yeah. I mean, I'd like I will be honest, there has been a back and forth with a fellow listener of Lads Anonymous where it's not a day, it's not every day or anything, but when there's been a particularly bad one or a particularly that's impressive, they get sent to that person and they send me one and I will send one back.

01:01:15:21 – 01:01:45:18
I love the way how you I you've just come in and you're looking at me like what? What you're saying you're you're you started a group. It's not a group. It's just between myself and another person. And it's we not regularly ever. But there have been maybe once a month of someone has done a particularly impressive one, an absolute Lincoln logger or that, you know, it's been it's like a murder scene.

01:01:45:19 – 01:02:06:24
It's a sexual theory. No, no no, no no, I tell you, no. That's a no no not not no. Nothing sexual. It's just impressive to see when if someone's done an absolute log and it's like a baby's arm, like I, I do want to see that. And if it's one of those ones where it's. I know it's clearly you do know this person.

01:02:06:24 – 01:02:27:18
Yes you do the other day. Oh this is it. No, it's not really. I was sitting sitting down, Tottenham at the caf, about to tuck into my fry up, and this person sent me a message and I thought, oh, the name flashed up. I wonder if that they're at the game. They want to meet me at the game.

01:02:27:18 – 01:02:42:21
We want to meet for a pint. As I clicked on it, I saw it turn out and I was like, are you fucking? I know it is. I know, I know exactly who it is. Haha. I won't bring it up, but how will I, how could I, how could I say this in a way that wouldn't give him up?

01:02:43:02 – 01:03:04:05
I know it is. I'm almost certain I know is you probably day. Then he's probably listening, cackling away at this. I'm not going to say because he might not want to say, but I'm going to look at your WhatsApp now. Okay. All right. Let me have a look. He. Yeah. Let me have a look. Recent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:04:08 – 01:03:24:15
There you go. What's up? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. It's a pig. I know there are there are other people that send, other things, but, for a running group to be happening for three years daily for a daily post, it's too much. It's a bit too much freakish.

01:03:24:15 – 01:03:47:07
Yeah, well, don't you just, finish that morning, put some rules in there just to say if it is a particularly big one, like people want to say that or a bit of it, if it's a particularly bad one. People who just make some rules don't do it daily. Just wear yourself off it. Win yourself off it. Now we're going to go into something only you know and this is a corker.

01:03:50:16 – 01:03:58:04
Something, you know, you.

01:03:58:06 – 01:04:23:01
Just can't get enough. Been wanting to write in for a while. Listening days. Pod. It seemed very appropriate. It all started some years back when my missus got the hump with me because I got a face tattoo. Only a small one. But she went mental. We argued for a few days and she said I could keep it on one condition.

01:04:23:03 – 01:04:54:09
She got to pick me. Well, all the guys have spoken about it, but none actually admitted to it. So I let her. Only a small strap on at first. After we done the deed and I applied my demon semen, we lay there talking and she asked me what it was like. Good God. I told her I wanted to do it again, but I wanted a more veiny cock as this one was too smooth and I wanted some texture.

01:04:54:11 – 01:05:18:12
She applied over the course. Over the next few months, battering me left, right and center all kinds of strap ons. It reminded me of the dick drawings of super bad. Such a variety. I loved it, but there was one that was far too big and it hurt me. I came up with the idea of getting my face tattoo removed so she wouldn't take me any more.

01:05:18:12 – 01:05:38:23
After this, I spoke to her about it and said that I would get it removed if you didn't pick me anymore. She agreed to this and on the plus side, she's quite adventurous and agreed to a threesome with one of her mates instead. So after getting the tattoo lasered off, you can only see a tiny bit of it.

01:05:39:00 – 01:06:00:09
About 4 or 5 months had gone by and I'd still not had a mind blowing orgasm. Like when I was getting pegged. I sat down and chatted with the missus about doing it again. She promised to use loads of lube. This is the key and very important. Now I'm just a cock for I love getting pegs whenever I can.

01:06:00:15 – 01:06:23:10
She's proper sizing me up. I wear pop plugs to the gym sometimes and chat with my mates, but they don't know. I love getting shafted by the missus. Now I'm hoping for the threesome with their mate. I want to get spit roasted. I cannot tell you how good this feels. Just start off with a cheeky finger in the bum and work your way up.

01:06:23:12 – 01:06:46:19
It'll be the best oh you'll ever have. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. And that's something only I know. What? What's his name? Nothing. There is absolutely no judgment. Like, if you find, like, if you want to. It's just.

01:06:46:21 – 01:07:09:03
I like I like the escalation of it all. He's just started small, and now he on to an absolute wanker. That's. Yeah, all of it. I'm not sure what to say other than, Than than than. Fair play. And thanks for sharing. And, you know, you crack on, you know, whatever you if if that constitutes what is.

01:07:09:09 – 01:07:27:22
Well, it could have been an unhealthy sex life. If I like. It's just that she used leverage she when I don't like that. So I'm going to fuck you in your ass. And so it's gone. Now, I think we could all use it. I think we could all use a bit of fuck is the other way round.

01:07:27:24 – 01:07:52:24
Touching that is the way around. Like Mrs.. Like I didn't lose some address. No. Take it back, and I'm going to fuck you in the off. It's the same thing I tried to my Mrs.. As I'm slapping that, by if, you know, I get to fuck you in the ass. Oh, God. Oh, God. I need to get for 11 coming.

01:07:52:24 – 01:08:21:08
I mean, I mean, Ricky, it's 11:01 up they stairs. I'm running up the stairs. He pats my bum and I'm like, oh, God, it's gonna happen again. Yeah. Fair play, fair play. Yeah. Fair play. And thanks for saying that in. Now, as I said, next week's topic is going to be bed. Spring is, what is it? What activities, what things that make you get up and spring out of your bed like there's no tomorrow?

01:08:21:08 – 01:08:51:18
Because getting me up is a fucking mission. So Saint Joe's in the lads. Anon pod, gmail.com. And we will see you next week. Dim night, hazy light. Band of brothers playing tunes. Hi. As quite midnight waves in through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek.

01:08:51:18 – 01:09:21:02
Band as we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise. You can absolutely fuck off not doing that. That's my private information. The, share with the world. You can piss off any fucking weird little podcast of Ricky talking about my. I also why why have you gone there? No, I do not give permission for this.

00:00:00:00 – 00:00:23:13
Getting willing to drill music. Rick. Drill music? Yeah. How? I don't know, I just like unknown t. It's just if you listen to unknown T, it's drill music. Right? And I'm not going to profess to explain what I know what it is. I'm at least two decades too old to be listening to it. But, you know, there's some thoughts.

00:00:23:13 – 00:00:42:19
Yeah. You know, there's something some somehow it's just transcend. Right. And he's he's flow. And if you like hip hop, you can appreciate these things okay. It's just a flow. And where his delivery and his voice is so kind of unique to me that I can't stop listening to it. I've had these two albums, these first two albums on repeat for about two weeks.

00:00:42:21 – 00:01:10:04
His name is unknown. T yeah, I, I don't know, I sort of an unknown truth. You know, I also have a realization that this week Rick. Yeah. Going I don't want to be called Flav anymore. Well, I don't mind. I don't mind being called Flav. Obviously. I don't like food. The podcast is fine. Absolutely fine. Yeah. I just don't want to introduce myself as Flav Bateman because I never get Flav.

00:01:10:04 – 00:01:22:18
Bateman was never my name. It was just my Twitter handle and obviously they're just gone. However, when I get booked for something, they just go on Twitter and go, that must be his name. Weird name, but must be his name. What are you gonna do? I'm not gonna do anything. I'm just going to keep doing it to a mode.

00:01:22:18 – 00:01:40:14
But I'm. I'm just saying that we should just gone with Gary Flavell. Please. That's. It's my name in it. It's. I'm 43 now, and we get introduced. So, what's your name? You know, the worst ones you get, like, new growth, new news, UK building what you download. And I'm like, I have no idea what I'm done is, is it Flav?

00:01:40:14 – 00:02:03:19
Bateman. No. Okay. Is it Gareth? No. Is it, is it Gary Flavell? No. How's that fucking. What am I gonna can or not? Yeah, well. Yeah. You were right back in the day when we started the fighting cock rig. We just said it's just Ricky. Yeah. Just Ricky. Well, I mean, it's Ricky TFC and people do refer to me as Ricky TFC.

00:02:03:21 – 00:02:30:12
Oh, is. And then when people do that as well, they're like. Like they get bit confused because they expected it to be t HFC, you know, what's the horsepower. No, no no the fighting car that's oh God. Oh God. Other night I see like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi is quite midnight waves surfing through till daylight breaks.

00:02:30:16 – 00:02:56:15
Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous. It's episode 36, a podcast about two best mates of over 20 years invited to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discussed.

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We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice or handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going, Flav? Everything's going right. I'm looking forward to the weekend. Ricky boy. Yeah, my yeah. So Saturday is going to be fucking every day. So friend of the show.

00:03:21:02 – 00:03:34:15
And actually I hope you don't mind me saying this week you can't mind me saying this because you know, no code. No no no no no no no no. You know what I'm talking about, don't you? I know what, you'd be a freak. Imagine if you took me aside and said no, that was unacceptable. Don't do that, slap.

00:03:34:17 – 00:03:56:05
Can you do me a favor? Can you edit that bit out? Yeah. So we a friend of the show, and, you know, someone I've been speaking to and on and off for the last couple of years. Jay. He, he won a competition through juice and 2 to 2 higher juice. And to write.

00:03:56:07 – 00:04:21:21
Ten tickets in a box. AJ verses Dan with the ball. All the food and drink you can possibly consume. Hosted by Ricky. That is just. And he was like an insane price. And then he went, he wrote me off and it's a bit weird, but I don't really like boxing at all. It's not my thing. Do you want to do this?

00:04:21:22 – 00:04:46:21
I was like, yeah, yeah, well, that sounds like the high for that. Like a serious. I could sort that out. Jay. Thank you very much, mate. But so. So what? What? It just felt like it was completely unfair for us to be given this amazing opportunity. Say, this is my. I'm taking my family and my wife and a couple of others to conclude.

00:04:46:23 – 00:05:11:19
But it just seemed completely unfair the way this was weighted and, and like, we just we decided that there was something that we could do in order to sort of help pay for this. Anyway, someone connected to Jay's. They had, a daughter called Poppy, who in 2021, I believe, she, she felt that she couldn't go on anymore for several reasons.

00:05:11:19 – 00:05:41:13
And, she took her own life. And so what I thought we could do is try and raise as much money as possible for the, a walk that we're doing for Poppy to raise money for. It's a, a prevention of youth suicide, I think is papyrus is the charity. So if you're all moved by that or enjoy Lads Anonymous and have a surplus income and you might want to donate to that, you can do that.

00:05:41:15 – 00:06:06:15
But go into just given.com/page/poppy walk. The link will also be in the description of this podcast. And, give as much as you feel comfortable to give. So yeah. Thank you Joe. Yeah. And, you know, let's raise some more money. Yeah, man. Yeah. Just to reiterate, just give some money, man. You know, just do anything you can.

00:06:06:15 – 00:06:28:12
Anything that you can muster. Five, ten, whatever it might be, it all go to an amazing cause. So, so cheers for doing that. The, the last podcast that we did, I like first of all, I don't know how we how we got there and it was the what goes in and what goes out. Yeah.

00:06:28:14 – 00:06:49:16
It, I didn't know how I was going to kind of write a show and what it was going to send it around. I've had maybe 6 to 7 messages saying it was the best episode yet. So this is this is a podcast based on what goes in or out of an ass. Yeah. That's correct. That's coming back to it yet because it was often North London derby.

00:06:49:16 – 00:07:12:11
So I wasn't ready to listen to anything. So I haven't listened back to it yet. So I like, you know, we've done podcasts on addiction, unhappiness, on, you know, all the things in life that touch all of us in one way or another. But somehow this is where it's at. Is it? Yeah, of course it is. Yeah. Bomb house.

00:07:12:11 – 00:07:31:23
Where? And you know what? All right, I made for it. Yeah, I'm fucking here for it. This is the community that we've built. Yeah, and I am fucking here for it. So there was a couple of other stragglers that sent in of what people have. Well, what's been found in people's bottoms, while they were working in A&E.

00:07:31:24 – 00:08:00:21
So a female patient came in. To cut a long story short, the issue was she had the carcass of a dead pigeon stuck up her vagina. I know it's not bomb, but it's just like, why? And maybe the best part is, she claims she had no idea how it got there. I don't believe that. No, I mean, if it was life, then, like, I possibly I was going to say possibly flew in there.

00:08:00:21 – 00:08:16:13
It's never going to just fly in there, but like a dead one, right? You know how it got in there. We know how it got in that jumped it up, you know. Yeah. Just it's, shut the dead pigeon up in the end. What's wrong with.

00:08:16:15 – 00:08:40:15
I'll get it. Like some menus in the world, right? The mad stuff. But that is fucking crazy. That is too far. And then another one. A guy came in with a fully inflated rugby ball up his ass. It is he. I don't know, he was saying. Are you sending these stories in? Who are they? It. Well, we they're anonymous, but they know the show.

00:08:40:17 – 00:09:08:19
They know the show and they work in the off the field of asses. Well, they work in A&E and he said he had inserted the ball while it was deflated, and it proceeded to pump it up while it was inside him. They told him he needed surgery and he discharged himself. He jumped on his bike and cycled home, say had an inflated rugby ball up his ass, jumped on his bike and cycled.

00:09:08:24 – 00:09:28:10
He didn't. The calm he he was back two hours later because he tried to pop the rugby ball in his bum with a screwdriver, so he couldn't. No. Course. Yeah. So yeah. So I love that. So. So he's in the hospital bed, right. He's in A&E and he's gone. Fuck, I know I can do it. Just bolts it out the hospital.

00:09:28:10 – 00:09:43:24
I'm going to stick a screwdriver up my ass, deflate it and then just pull it out. So what is he. He's he put a knee. He's so angry. It. What? Well, I need an operation. I do that, mate. You can deflate this. All you got to do is pop it. No no no no no no no no no, I'm going to go.

00:09:43:24 – 00:09:57:15
I'm, No, I'll do it. I'm not. If you can't do it. Oh, fucking I love. That's proper good, man. I think he's not. Try to get involved. Try to get a screwdriver. I've tried to do some of these. Come back with these, as I say, tail between his legs, but more like a rugby ball between his legs.

00:09:57:15 – 00:10:16:04
And he's like, no, I can't, I can't do this. That was too difficult. I thought it was gonna be easy, but what turns out was difficult. So we actually take it out. I don't believe it was. So he's put on an, inflated rugby ball up his ass and then pumped it up, then pumped it up for a laugh or uttered a well, I mean, it's a rugby.

00:10:16:04 – 00:10:42:12
That's it's probably part of, an initiation or something cos you seen, you've seen light. You see, I've seen, I've seen stuff on the internet. Yeah. I've, I've partakes in the ingestion of, you know, substances that have made you a little bit more adventurous than you would normally be. Right. See what you mean. Yeah, yeah. And I've seen some mental stuff.

00:10:42:14 – 00:11:05:10
Mental stuff. Like there's this there's this thing with alien tentacles. You see that? All right. Octopus arms, tentacles. There's a whole thing I think it's in. It is connected to. What's that? Sort of. I think it's Japanese. It's like a sexual cartoon. Jeff. Right. It's quite a hentai hentai. It's called. Yeah, okay. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And it was so.

00:11:05:12 – 00:11:28:13
But the people are in the cartoons, right? And shoving massive tentacles up their ass. Isn't that not what I'm looking at? And. Like what? You can't, Something massive up there of what do you get watching it? I think you should do it to see what they are getting out of it. I, I told you, I can't even.

00:11:28:15 – 00:11:49:22
We established last week we can't even get our own fingers of it. The pathetic we off the flag. I think you feel less of a man now because I can't put things up my own ass for some reason. This might make you feel better. After a Spotify comment in total agreement with Flav, I don't get the obsession with A-levels.

00:11:49:24 – 00:12:13:21
People must be bored with their sex life to even consider it. Keep it clean peeps. So it's not. We are in. We are in the minority, right? Because there are a lots of. I think it's mainly men that are obsessed with putting putting their plonker in their business. So but I've never been, I've never been obsessed by it at all, and I never I'm not that bothered.

00:12:13:23 – 00:12:32:04
Yeah. I'm not obsessing about my wife's relief. She just doesn't have to worry about it. Whereas other wives out there, I think this is a daily concern. So I wonder if he wants to put out my ass tonight. Like my, my, my work never has to worry about. It daily can says he's just there on a lunch break, just tucking into a Sunday.

00:12:32:06 – 00:12:57:20
Oh, God. Just imagine tonight's the night he wants to put in my Bible again. Yeah. We had a dilemma last week of, a bunch of lads. He had a WhatsApp group and who shared their farts, first of all, and then their poos. And somebody else says, we have a, we have a WhatsApp group exactly the same called only Farts, which I thought was, very nice.

00:12:57:20 – 00:13:18:15
That's a Spotify comment. Very nice and, well, nice. Not very nice. I don't I don't hate the name. I don't want to know any more about horrible groups. Or horrible WhatsApp groups. Just don't want to know about it. You've you've had you've created a couple new ones on you this week. Well, I haven't created any WhatsApp groups.

00:13:18:16 – 00:13:42:01
You've been involved. You've received content from people. Oh, yeah. I have to say he knows who he is. Listen to this fucking pain is who he is. He and he is in absolute pain. Yeah. Hey, he thought it was after listening to the episode and what we spoke about, but he showed me his prized turnouts. So thank you very much for that and remain anonymous.

00:13:42:05 – 00:14:06:07
I know who you are. Yeah. One of them was a prize. I know it's bloody good effort. Bloody good effort. So. And someone has kindly sent in a load of topics for us to discuss. Video games. Favorite non-sports events, inspirations, food, siblings and money and I like the sound of the money one. I like all of the all of those sound good siblings.

00:14:06:09 – 00:14:21:21
Yeah, I've got a lot of siblings to me. Oh fucking hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. One of my siblings could have ended up with one of your siblings. Well, yeah, that that was, that was a horrible time in my life. Were horrible in of my life.

00:14:21:23 – 00:14:50:20
Let's let's go to those make. They sound good. Okay. Lovely stuff. If you want to follow lads anonymous on any social media, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, whatever, you know where to find us at, lads. Anon pod. Now I have one ask and I'll ask this a couple of times throughout the pods, but we've been posting a lot of reels and a lot of TikToks, and if you could, you know, the little, I think it's a plain icon.

00:14:50:20 – 00:15:11:22
You know, where you send all your mates the means, the funny videos, the fucking people falling over and stuff like that. If you see one of our reels or TikToks that you like, that one of your friends would appreciate the humor, or you want to show them the podcast that you want to listen to, please send it over to I as a DM.

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To them, the more, the more times our reels especially are sent via instant message, the more reach that it gets and the more exposure that it gets. And it's the only way that we're going to be able to get a new, bigger audience. So if you, you know, if you're feeling charitable that day and you think it's funny, then please send it over.

00:15:32:24 – 00:15:58:08
That would be much appreciated. Appreciated. Now we are going to jump into today's topic and the topic is called bed. Spring is now. These are things that make you jump out of your bed. Now I am the fucking. I wouldn't say I'm the worst morning person going, but I find it really hard to get going in the morning and I would.

00:15:58:10 – 00:16:36:10
I would love. And part of my routine is when I wake up scrolling my phone for a good hour. Now this isn't me just watching mindless videos on TikTok. It's just checking social accounts of lots anonymous person accounts, accounts I manage for, business and stuff like that. And that's so it's just kind of like I'm going through my emails, but even if I wasn't doing that, I'd much prefer to lay in my bed and drink 2 or 3 coffees before I get out.

00:16:36:12 – 00:16:53:24
Then I'll put like jogging bottoms on one downstairs, stick the telly on, then I'll go and have a shower and stuff like that. But there are people out there. I don't know who that just sit upright in their bed as soon as they've woken up. My wife to get on with the day, jump in the shower to just get up, just get some of it.

00:16:54:01 – 00:17:13:18
Doesn't matter what time, what she when she's at work or what we're doing, she's up before. I don't think I've ever seen her in bed after 8:00. She's always up. What fucking hell? Really? For real? For real? Yeah. Just. Just. She'll be up like there'll be something to. She does shape shift patterns, right? Like this morning. She was.

00:17:13:18 – 00:17:33:14
She. She's not in at work till 11:00. I've got to take the kids up to school at eight. Right. She was up before me. Yeah. She just she just. She just just doesn't want to sit around like I could sit in line, but I didn't want to get up this morning. I reckon if I hadn't opened my eyes, had a quality night sleep last night.

00:17:33:14 – 00:17:58:04
One of the. I don't often have a good night's sleep. It's a drink too much, right? So you just you get to you get to about 4 or 5:00 in your body just goes it just the consumption of alcohol really impacts the quality of sleep. It's really bad for you. Right. So anyway, I decided I wasn't gonna have a drink last night, and, and just obviously fell asleep and just had a brilliant night's sleep.

00:17:58:06 – 00:18:25:07
I'm sorry. So was it as simple as you didn't have a drink last night, and you. And you had a good night's sleep? Yeah. Because of fucking no. Yeah, yeah. Whenever, whenever I. If I don't let me like I'm talking about zero alcohol for like it's actually two days I didn't drink right so I didn't. It. Yeah. And I've got cut it down man I'm just cancer stage.

00:18:25:07 – 00:18:53:07
It started to affect me I yeah I know, I know we've spoken about this a lot but I know quite a lot of people that they will have, you know, with their partner, a bottle or two bottles a night, every single night to unwind and stuff like that. It feels great and it's lovely and it's just great for the TV and it's it's just it is a lovely thing to do is super relaxing after you've had a stressful day, do you get, I suppose you don't get hung over if you're so used to?

00:18:53:07 – 00:19:12:05
Yeah. No. Do I need. Yeah. There'll be times that I have. Not all the time. Most. I'm not drinking enough to be, hung over, to be honest. Yeah. Any bit of alcohol will fuck your night sleep pop. In my opinion. What happens to me, how I react. Whereas my dad, like, we we met up the other night and I stayed over his house.

00:19:12:06 – 00:19:32:08
I drank too much. Right. So, so we we met up, and, he just sleeps. It doesn't affect him at all. We just sleep through the night. But for me, it always wakes me up, and I can't. I just I can tell the difference when I have. Yeah. How to drink. I'm not. Anyway, last night put my head down about all past nine.

00:19:32:10 – 00:19:51:07
But I woke up at seven in the morning. Lovely. But still couldn't spring out of bed to come back around. I was like, yeah, that's a pill myself. Out of bed. Can I fuck this? Are you telling me that you had a lovely night's sleep and when you woke up and you thought, I've got recorded, lads.

00:19:51:07 – 00:20:15:06
Anonymous today? He didn't peel that bed cover back, sprang out of bed. Jump into your trainers and be like fucking. Let's go now. Because I didn't, I didn't I mean, it's for episode 37, 35 or 36, 36. So, no, I didn't. You know what I think though, through the years we have it's changed for me. Yeah. God, I remember the excitement of those things.

00:20:15:06 – 00:20:37:18
So you sent me a list, didn't you? That you're going to go for it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, you. Yeah. So what? We'll we'll we'll pick apart, few of these individually, but these are the, this is kind of a list of what people generally jump out of bed for because they're either excited or, you know, they just can't wait to get into it.

00:20:37:18 – 00:21:03:14
So hobbies is a good one. Whether you go to the football, fishing, boxing. And I know that, because of the American matches, boxing and UFC, that we don't get to see it until first thing in the morning over here. Yeah, I don't I just don't watch them like fights that are in America or UFC. I would just won't watch them unless, you know, unless it's gigantic.

00:21:03:16 – 00:21:30:01
Like if it was Canelo, Mayweather or Mayweather. Pacquiao stayed up for that. But typically I just don't watch US space sports because of it. So. So the answer is I don't spring out of bed. I don't even get out of it. Right. Okay. So special occasions, birthdays, anniversaries, special celebrations, travel planning holidays, holiday haul. It, I think holidays, like holidays you do?

00:21:30:03 – 00:21:51:16
Because not only is it the excitement, but you can't turn up to an airport late, though. You just you can't. You can't turn up to your flight half hour late. So I went to Dublin this, about a month ago, and our flight was, I think was half five in the morning and bid to get to Bristol Airport two hours before the flight leaves, just to be safe.

00:21:51:18 – 00:22:10:22
So we're up? Yeah, we're up at 2:00 in the morning and you're not, though. Not going to bed at fucking 8:00 in the night, are you? You're kind of better off ten. So rich. Literally. Just close your eyes. You've closed her eyes and then you're up and you're out. But the fear, like you said, of missing your flight is significant enough that you can't just drift off anyway.

00:22:10:24 – 00:22:18:13
Not. I was fucked the whole day. I was fucked.

00:22:18:15 – 00:22:37:05
So what, you did go to sleep, though, right? And you know, you've got an hour. You know, you you've got a flight. And you eventually drift off and you wake up when you wake up, are you like, did you spring out your bed or was you there, lying there looking at your phone? I'll grab another quick ten minutes.

00:22:37:05 – 00:23:02:08
So exciting. And it it's so exciting to to go on holiday. And as much as I hate flying and go back and listen to another episode that we did about flying a good episode, but, I quite like traveling. I like the process of driving to the airport, and I like getting to the airport, and I'm actually getting much better at flying as well.

00:23:02:10 – 00:23:26:13
Yeah, I would say having done the episode, I, I feel I feel better not not completely. At ease with it, but generally speaking, when I am going to the airport, it's like when I'm going with the family. So the stress element of passports and boarding passes and making sure the bag doesn't exceed any limits and the taxi arrives on time and all that fucking shit.

00:23:26:15 – 00:23:57:19
But it is exciting. And it is one of those things where when my alarm goes off, I'm not hitting snooze, I'm fucking up and I'm straight in that shower, downing coffee, walking around the house like clapping my hands, getting everyone else up. That never, ever happens. Ever. I can't just, I just, I don't know, I think if obviously I got a bed late, I go to bed, I start winding down and going to bed at about 12 at night, and I'm in my bed at half 12 in the morning.

00:23:57:21 – 00:24:32:22
And then I'm up. My alarm goes off at six. Snooze the snooze, snooze about 645, 650. I'm not fucking out. I better fucking get myself going in now. But it's always a massive struggle. Now, to jump back to like, the hobbies element, like football, for example, when there's a cup final day or Euro day. So euros obviously would be flying away, so we would naturally be up to get to the airport.

00:24:32:22 – 00:25:03:24
But like the the day of a cup final or a semifinal or a big college sporting occasion, I know the day is going to be absolutely quality and I know that I need to be on it. And in the fact of that, I need to be as awake and with it as quick as possible, jump in the shower, have something to eat, have like coffee, you know, just get myself going as quickly as I can.

00:25:04:01 – 00:25:30:12
And those days are, well, exciting. I can't wait like I literally yeah, if if we're in like, a cup final, semifinal, whatever. I'm not proper like buzzing for it for the week leading up to it. And then on that day I am up and I'm out and again, if I know I'm a keen fisherman, I don't go as near as much as I'd love to be one of the key to a bike times early in the morning.

00:25:30:12 – 00:25:54:21
So like 6 to 9:00, it's not the same on every like, well, doing bites. But when the fish. Yeah. So when the fish are feeding early in the morning, just as you get fish stands outside outside of house. You can. Yeah. Yeah you can. Yeah. But it's, it's a really good bike time when, when the sun's rising, it's kind of like the fish wake up.

00:25:54:21 – 00:26:15:03
Then the first bit of light that hits the lake, and it's like they can forage around and find stuff and they're a bit more active. So when I even though I find it really fucking scary and a bit daunting, but like, it's five in the morning, the alarm goes off and I'm like, I can't sleep in because if I sleep in, I'm going to miss bite time.

00:26:15:03 – 00:26:31:06
And I'm there for one reason to catch fish and I'm going on my own. So I'm loading the car up and it's pitch black outside. I've having my coffee and I drive to a lake, like, which is in the middle of nowhere. It's a big deep lake. This. There'll be a few people dotted about me, but really see them.

00:26:31:08 – 00:26:57:20
And just being on your own in the middle of a lake, in the middle of nowhere and it's pitch black. You then you sit there thinking anything could happen to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one would ever know I'm okay. Right, Simon? Yeah. It's more about the falling in. I. Know just some random dick coming from out of the bushes at me.

00:26:57:22 – 00:27:19:11
And when I. When I'm all set up, though, and I'm sitting there and I've got my flask of coffee and I've mentioned it before, the mist is just dancing on the lake. And the sun is just piercing through the trees. And you can feel that first bit of warmth, and you're sitting there and you're like, you've got your coffee in your hand watching your float.

00:27:19:13 – 00:27:42:07
And you know, this is why I got up that early. And you've got a routine as well. First routine for coffee at like six in the morning. You just sitting there on your own and you can just hear the birds and the wildlife coming to it, like waking up. It's it's amazing. So it's those things that will only get me out of bed that can, can really kind of wake me up and like, go back to what you said about American sports.

00:27:42:09 – 00:28:01:18
Normally in the UFC, if there is a big fight or a semi big fight, I will. I can't go on social media because as soon as I go on social media in the morning, someone's going to pop up and it'll tell me who's won the fight. So I have to race downstairs and I have to go before anyone else is awake in my house.

00:28:01:20 – 00:28:18:16
Is that when the kids are watching me watch men knock the living shit out of each other? Well, you've got an issue. You kids watching that? I don't really want my kids to watch men elbowing each other in the head. In their head. To be in this woman's house, to be Ricky. What the fuck in each other to.

00:28:18:21 – 00:28:44:05
I'm going to say you don't want. You don't want to see your girls. Don't you want to see what two proper men look like? Well, they see a proper man every single morning. This is the problem. Their idea of what a man is, Ricky, is you. Really? And what UFC and boxing does is. And actually the proper men there you can eventually be with one of them.

00:28:44:07 – 00:29:03:24
Fucking. And, I did not. I would not work. So what is it? What is it? Just a quick little bit of a joke. All jokes aside, what is it? What don't you want to say? Is it just the raw violence? And how do you think they'll interpret that? I don't know, because I don't think they would come away thinking that's an okay thing to do.

00:29:04:01 – 00:29:26:08
No, but, seeing someone that is semi unconscious getting pounded in the face over and over, and I don't even what that until their, until they are unconscious and they've won the fight or the fight is stopped. Yeah. Like mad elbows. Two people in the head and their head split open and they're carrying on fighting. There's blood all over them.

00:29:26:10 – 00:29:50:02
Yeah, I just I would rather that they didn't see that that type of violence really. Because it is pretty like for years I was well against UFC. I was like, this is fucking crazy. That's good. Yeah. Once I got over the fact of being a pansy, you realize it. It's great watching men beat the shit out of each other.

00:29:50:04 – 00:30:19:24
Well, what does I realize that both men are fully trained and they're both there to do exactly the same to each other, and they're ready for. Yeah, and they want to do that. Then it's like, okay, you know what you say? Fucking smash each other to bits. Then what? So would you ever like, when we were talking before this part, before the pod, and you were saying that things are changed for you, is it that you just don't get excited about things anymore?

00:30:20:01 – 00:30:46:00
You're at that age of being a middle aged man, and you're just like, a I've got off for God knows how many flights I've got up for God knows how many football events. Now I'm just a bit nonplused about it now. Yeah. No, I mean, it changes. It's not. I remember not being able to sleep because I was so excited for my birthday previously, and and I was when I was getting ready for a night.

00:30:46:00 – 00:30:59:12
And, you know, most kids are like that. And then you're getting ready for a night out. I remember being like, so probably the peak of drug taking heyday, but mid to late 2000.

00:30:59:14 – 00:31:24:08
Or maybe even early. But we call them tens. Yeah. The I, I, Isaac has super excited. I just had a special ritual where you be kind of like getting ready. I had a couple of drinks put in, ready to start by. Okay. Fire on and I would. I'll be buzzing to go out. But all of it passes him do anything.

00:31:24:08 – 00:31:54:18
Enough is becomes second nature and it becomes a part of the norm. I like I'm really excited about Saturday. I'm really excited about seeing my family and, you know, going to do something that you don't typically do in terms of guys that are boxing. I'm really happy that that's happening. Yeah, but it doesn't go beyond that. And, I think it's more about as you get older, I don't know why it happens, but it does it like when your birthday comes up, imagine how excited you was when you were 18, 17.

00:31:54:20 – 00:32:18:20
You don't feel the same about it now. De I don't feel I don't feel the same way about it as I did. But, and there is a total different excitement. When I was younger, there was always the kind of trepidation of that. I don't know what I'm going to get. Like there is a list of five fucking regime things.

00:32:18:22 – 00:32:36:24
I know one of them was going to be coming to me, and I'm going to open it and I'm going to see those trainers. I'm going to see that fucking, shirt or whatever it is. And Sherman, you. Yeah, I was going to fucking say Ben as well. I mean, I remember I remember the time. Well Benjamin was up there and I yeah.

00:32:37:00 – 00:33:04:02
So those times were exciting. And you'd get up early for your birthday, but mine's kind of changed now. So not my birthday. I wouldn't, but my kids birthdays. It's it is that they're still young enough that when as soon as it's kind of like birthday, 90 6:00 in the morning that they're up and that it's normally quite hard to get them up, but when they step after they're up and they get us up, and that is an exciting occasion, even though I'm fucking half asleep.

00:33:04:04 – 00:33:26:07
But I do enjoy it. And even to the point of that, it is my birthday and I do wake up early because I know I get excited because they're excited, you know? I mean, it's, it rubs off for me. And normally for my birthday now, I book a day off and I sit and watch my favorite film that's TV show is you.

00:33:26:07 – 00:33:47:04
Do you treat yourself in that way? Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. Absolutely love it. And the kids, they know that this is my ritual. So they buy all my favorite drinks and snacks ready for school. I eat for myself, which is, which is great. So I do get excited about that. Yeah, that sounds good. I mean, I don't you don't really want anything.

00:33:47:05 – 00:34:10:11
I couldn't give a shit where I got a present or not for Christmas, but that that thoughtfulness of buying your favorite foods and snacks and stuff, knowing that you can need that to be set up for your day. That's a lovely thing. It's a different thing, though. It's a different thing. And yeah, you know, I, I think as you get older when you have a family, it's like you, you do more, it's more important that everyone else is having a good time.

00:34:10:13 – 00:34:32:17
And, and and the thing is, is when as we getting older, as the kids are getting older, they they're starting to care less about it as well, which is really you. I don't want to say this theory. It might not be the case for your kids, but, like, my point. Go. They they get an older, they're less interested in us.

00:34:32:19 – 00:34:51:04
They don't need us other than to feed them. They don't need anything like they. They feed them. We take them to school or college and that's it. That's all they require from us. Occasionally they can. I'm out of money. Can I have a tenner? And it's a weird feeling because it's like you go into Christmas and it's the same.

00:34:51:05 – 00:35:09:04
It's like they're not really bothered about what they're getting. And that's sort of what it is. You get out of the kind of magic of that. It kind. That sounds really depressing. It's just normal. But you just like, yeah, yeah, I want them to be doing backflips out of bed on Christmas morning. I think I spoke to you on them and they're not.

00:35:09:05 – 00:35:33:05
They were on that morning. They've got their one more thing. The I've read that the the by the age of 15 your kids will take everything that they've learned. That's the, that's the maximum amount of influence you're going to have over their family. And they stop listening to you and they start listening to their peers and you lose control of them.

00:35:33:05 – 00:35:54:15
Not that they go off the rails. Yeah, yeah. But then you suddenly become redundant. Yeah. You're not the Oracle. What you once fought. And we were at that as we were growing up. Ricky, you remember like you remember the fight. My dad's not Superman. What? That has his failings. And my mum has her failings. And then you realize I know more than both of them.

00:35:54:17 – 00:36:15:17
Yeah, no more than both him. But you don't. Because even to this day, I call my mum for advice now. So I've goes through that process. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. And I remember as well I spoke to you about, it's maybe, maybe Will was birthday and we were up chatting about it and I was like, like, is he excited?

00:36:15:17 – 00:36:40:03
What's he got on your like, he's still in bed. It's like 10:00 at night. Like it doesn't care. So I, I mean, he wants his stuff. Yeah, yeah, but it's not like he's not, like, running downstairs to open his presents. Nuh Because he's he's teenager. He's 15 and 15. Chloe, nearly 17, should be driving soon. Like when she starts driving, she's going to be home at all.

00:36:40:03 – 00:37:13:20
Probably not. Shit. I'm not. So. Christ. I'm. That's the thing is, is that when I was 17 was I wanted to hang around with my parents on my birthday. Nah, let's go and do some fingering. And I didn't do any at 17, but I wanted to. That's what I wanted to. I was game, like for, change, changing it slightly, like with your career and your job, do you get excited about like it?

00:37:13:21 – 00:37:40:19
Like you know what you did, Saturday social. No. On for Sky sports. Large audience. No. You know, all eyes on you and that. You know, if I can ask, they put you up in a hotel and, you know, treat you nice, and I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you get it, like, did you. No, no, no.

00:37:40:19 – 00:37:57:06
No excitement. Nice work. If you have if you offer me a choice, whether what do you want to do it or not, then the answer's no. I would rather not. Okay. For a number of reasons. The first being.

00:37:57:08 – 00:38:16:20
That, I spent time away from my family for the best part of my week is the bit during the evening where I'm sitting down with my wife. That's my best part of my week, because that part is so great. It's the reason why I've got no interest in going and do care, and drinking myself into oblivion. Now, on a Saturday night, I'd much rather be at home, you know?

00:38:16:22 – 00:38:35:04
And I think most people, by the time they get to 43, they feel that way, right? 100%. Yeah. So that's fine. That's nothing out of the ordinary. But so the idea of going to London, staying in a hotel on my own and then getting up early and going to Sky, that's work. That's stuff I have to do.

00:38:35:06 – 00:38:56:17
Yeah. So it's not. It's not. There's nothing exciting about that. No, I mean, I'll tell you what I did on Friday. Got to the I got to the, I got to the hotel off the drive in, you know, for two hours. And, when it had a poo, obviously, that first thing you do when you get into a hotel room because it's because you're safe and safe.

00:38:56:19 – 00:39:22:06
And then I put on the T20 cricket watch that for two hours and then went to sleep. Oh, good. That sounds horrendous, you know. Yeah, that was my Friday evening, but the. But but my favorite bit Rick I do I do look forward to the ITC. I'll tell you what. There's a bit of a bed spring career for the part of it is they give you they when you buy, when they put you into the hotel, it's Novotel in Brentford, right?

00:39:22:08 – 00:39:42:20
Yeah. You get a breakfast and the breakfast is open at six. And again, whenever before I do any of these shows, I'll never drink like the day before. Yeah. So I had a good night's sleep. The alarm goes, it's like, yes, breakfast time, it's a buffet and there's no one there because I'm up early, there's no one there and I'm just.

00:39:42:20 – 00:40:00:06
Yeah. How many fried eggs do you want for? Yeah. Okay. No good cup, two cups of coffee. And what I'll do is I'll sit down and I'll take my time. I'll take my time. Let's. I'll sit down. I want straight for the food. That's mad. I'll sit down and I'll peruse the news. All right? And I'll. I love them all right.

00:40:00:09 – 00:40:16:00
Yeah. I mean, you know, it's just like, we'll see what's going on, and then I'll have, like, a cup of coffee and maybe a bowl of cereal. Take my toilet. Take my time. Yeah. And then I'll get up and then I'll have a cup breakfast, maybe an orange juice as well. And I've got enough time. So I've left myself.

00:40:16:00 – 00:40:31:13
I've sprung out bread of, left myself a couple of hours. I'll take as much time as I like. And it's this brand new, this hotel, the Novotel. It's been there about two years, so it's really kind of like plush. And I see all the businessmen getting ready. And then in the people on their holidays have come to London to visit.

00:40:31:15 – 00:41:00:09
And I'm sitting there amongst it all gone. This is all right. Yeah. That's one of the, one of the ones on here that I've got on the list is, big breakfast. Like getting up. It's my daughter's 13th birthday on Sunday. And normally, because when we were like, my partner's family, they are massive on birthdays. It's the one day of the year where they will make a fuss.

00:41:00:09 – 00:41:20:07
And all the aunties and uncles and cousins and all that, they will buy presents for that person. They will visit that person. They all get a card and it's a real big, tradition that they which is quite nice because it still makes me feel like it's my birthday when people are buying me lots of, you know, cards and gifts and wishing me and stuff like that.

00:41:20:09 – 00:41:46:18
But, we got to a stage where we would literally going out for birthday dinners every 2 or 3 weeks. It's fucking expensive. So then what we found out is if you go to go out for a big breakfast in the morning, it's a lot cheaper because everyone's got kids where they go in for free. There's a little, restaurant up in Milton, in Milton Keynes, in the city.

00:41:46:20 – 00:42:06:05
I can't remember what it's called bar in blocks or something like that, but but, so we're all going there, and it's exactly like you said. I'm going to get there. I think we're booked in at half 8 or 845 Sunday morning, so. Oh yeah, I'll be up early. I have to get up early. So this is my daughter's daughter's birthday and the breakfast.

00:42:06:05 – 00:42:31:14
So I'll be that, I'll be springing up out of bed, getting in that shower, getting myself ready. And it's one of those breakfast where you've got your coat and then your croissants. Yeah. Pan chuckles and all that shit. I go straight for the fry up, straight for double fried egg without getting a double double fried egg. Double hash brown may even go fresh brand, depending on how bad I'm feeling.

00:42:31:14 – 00:42:51:01
And, and all of that. And then I'll go, you know, apple juice, and I'll have a little sit down and maybe cup a slice of toast in that. But yeah, those things get me up and out in the morning like, like like the celebrate the celebratory type of things, like for breakfast and stuff. I'm definitely up top.

00:42:51:01 – 00:43:08:17
What are you going to do? What are you going to do? You got to be there off eight on Sunday, eight for you. 845 and the box in the box in I mean, it's scheduled to come on at ten. It won't come on at ten. You might be more like 11. Yeah. And then you will be all the way back home.

00:43:08:19 – 00:43:29:02
I haven't till about this, but then you might need to think about it. You need to think about it, Ricky. Really? Because it's right. It's on the doorsteps. Come in. Yeah, I know I will. I'm like. Trying to that's, you know, that's that is my options. So I'll, I'll leave to make sure I get that last train, but,

00:43:29:04 – 00:43:56:07
What what if what if, if you kind of. You're very drunk and then someone. Not me, not me, but someone goes. That's how I say. I can't say Ricky Hatton's at the door. I you can't leave me. And he's like, he she's a shadow boxing. And he's like. And he makes those horrible noises when he punches this. His eyes, he's just staring that next to the door, I don't know, I, I can't leave, he's still there.

00:43:56:07 – 00:44:24:08
He's been there for four hours. Shadow boxing. Fuck that. What about, like, I know what the answer is going to be to this, but I thought I just ask it anyway for tech gadgets, you know, like, I, I find, do the announcements that are the, the kind of, you know, conferences and. No, no, no, no, I didn't I knew that I couldn't give a shit at all.

00:44:24:08 – 00:44:42:21
In fact, I had my I was gutted that my three year old phone broke this week. So I'll just. Whoa, fuck. I have to be broke. Well, I dropped it in Amsterdam in May and I've just been in the crack. The screen cracked. It was working fine. It's just been. It was sort of shattered, but I could use my phone.

00:44:42:23 – 00:44:57:21
Yeah, yeah. And I was like, I don't want to get any phone. Let me, let me draw this out for as long as possible. It wasn't okay. Yeah, I could do it, I think really I don't care about like, the money or a new contract. I didn't care, I just didn't want to deal with it. This works fine.

00:44:57:21 – 00:45:17:19
And, I woke up one morning and half the screen was gone. Let's see what I think it is. It? So I got a brand new S20 for whatever that means, but, yeah, couldn't give a shit. I went, I went the whole process done and dusted. There's no difference between one phone or the other. There is none unless you're desperate to look for it.

00:45:17:21 – 00:45:38:11
But for everybody, me and you, there is no difference if you're fascinated with technology and whatnot, you'll know that the battery life is probably last about 30 minutes longer than the one that I had previously. I couldn't even solitary fucker put it in charge every night. It's not a problem. No, no, no, what that stuff's about really isn't about being interested in the new phone.

00:45:38:11 – 00:46:15:18
That's been about massive part of your hobby, right? Technology can be a hobby, right? Can it? Yeah, but no, nothing like that. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing really. So to draw this to an end, a couple of people have sent in some of their. What what makes it. Well, actually there's literally a couple of it. So women, if they are on a, on a promise for a bank up or something like that, they would get up at 10:00 to go around someone's house, like literally like, I don't know why or whatnot.

00:46:15:18 – 00:46:35:13
I didn't quite understand it. I mean, I obviously do understand it, but if you're getting a text at 6:00 in the morning, sign you up, come round. So someone's been out all night? Probably a little bit, you know, under the influence? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then maybe that's what they'll say. I can't say I've ever had received one of those text messages.

00:46:35:13 – 00:47:01:24
To be fair, I don't know, not not like, an early morning, but they'll spring out a bed to go. But surely you'll have to get, like, teeth brushed and all that stuff, but, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just, I don't know, I know as I've got older, the sound of that sounds horrendous to me. I don't know if it is about getting older, but like if I'm at 6:00 and I'm fast asleep and I'll get a typing end up, I'm not going.

00:47:02:01 – 00:47:23:00
All right. Brilliant. I have to get up again, have sex. Now that's kind of what my. Yeah, I'm like, if if I was, I thought falling asleep on the sofa and I felt my phone vibrate at like four in the morning, checking it out from the missus, saying, you going to come up and you're usually a B, why aren't you home?

00:47:23:00 – 00:47:44:19
Where are you? Yeah. For him, you're going to come up and sort me out or what? I'd be sprinting up those stairs. You would? Yeah. I wouldn't even finish the end of the sentence. And I'd just be, just be there because I'm a little pig. Yeah. You are. And then someone has said, yeah, I'll bring it up bed every Monday morning, sir.

00:47:44:19 – 00:48:08:12
Listen to lads. Anonymous. Thank you very much. That's. I mean, I know that it was I'm guessing that was that probably it wasn't actually, it's kind of thing you would see with message. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I do you know what I am, I dunno, it could have been, it could have been, dilemmas. This one is called sexting never hurt anyone.

00:48:08:12 – 00:48:36:07
And something only you know is Royal Marine hard core. So those are the dilemmas and something. And you know, the topic for next week is the Titan. Now the Titan is the submersible that went into the sea to find the Titanic. And it had 5 or 6 people on board and its boat because everything had been fed all the information we fed bullshit.

00:48:36:07 – 00:48:55:22
Because I was under under the impression that it was like like a tiny bit of crushed up metal at the pressure of the, the ocean, just. And they all got obliterated straight away. Turns out. Yeah, something else completely. Well, I mean, that's what I thought as well. Like the stuff that I was reading, I don't want to get too far down the rabbit hole unless this is that.

00:48:55:22 – 00:49:20:04
They would have been like the the word vaporized. Vaporized. They were vaporized within seconds. Now, this topic hasn't been submitted by any of the lads. It was submitted by me because I'm obsessed with this story. And I remember as the news broke that there was a fucking submersible falling through the sea like idiots. I'm not going to go into that.

00:49:20:04 – 00:49:44:17
We're going to start if you have any. It was a great week. It's not for the people in it and their families. I know it was. It was, a historic moment because I don't thing I've ever felt anything like. It was a bit like 911. Yes. Yes, exactly. This is weird. It is like it was like when the world stood still because something was happening.

00:49:44:19 – 00:50:09:19
So if you have any conspiracy stories connected in any way to the kind of expedition that happened or anything, any stories you heard, what have you heard, or if you are a super adventurer, okay, well, you've done something kind of similar. It doesn't have to be a submersible, but you've been to, like a the clifftop, like a zip.

00:50:09:19 – 00:50:33:08
Like on a race. Like on a zip line in Vietnam. Yeah. You're trusting the people there with your life, and you get that they spongey jumps in New Zealand. Yes. You know, they, they fucking made one. Yeah. I think you've got like that. Send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com. And we were read at your stories.

00:50:33:14 – 00:51:09:10
Now we are going to go into dilemmas. Them night wrong single so, just you got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad because that will teach you a can in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky a flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to be like you're safe to get nice and warm between breaking and.

00:51:09:12 – 00:51:36:18
Sexting never hurt anyone. Love your podcast and listen to it with my boyfriend every week, so this dilemma won't be a surprise to him. We've been together for almost eight years now and overall have a great relationship. I've always known that he's into buxom women. Me being one myself, and don't mind that he follows and likes busty models on Instagram.

00:51:36:20 – 00:52:02:21
However, he recently admitted to me that one woman DM'd him and was pretty flirtatious. He showed me the messages and he immediately told her that he is in a relationship. At first I was jealous, but then I found myself being turned on that this is that this hot younger woman was into my man as she made comments about how lucky his girlfriend must feel.

00:52:02:23 – 00:52:23:23
We talked about it and he said he would only be comfortable with chatting, flirting, and sexting if it was okay with if I was okay with it. I didn't know what to say, but that night we had the most unspeakable hot sex we have ever had. It was like when we first met each other for the first time all over again.

00:52:24:00 – 00:52:52:03
We have always had a beautiful sex life and I want it to stay that way. Neither one of us want an open relationship, but I wonder if I should encourage him to continue with messaging her if it means things were still stay hot between us for as long as possible? Or is this inviting trouble into my relationship? For the record, the boundaries would be just text and sharing, one time images, not meeting or anything like that.

00:52:52:05 – 00:53:19:18
All my female friends are very conservative and say no as this will surely end my really hate my relationship. What are your thoughts lads? I think they're probably right. The, the friends are you generally you will end up with, issues down the line. I don't know if you can control it. It may be that your boyfriend is completely committed to you, and he probably is, but then he might read a particular message and he's like, oh, wow.

00:53:19:20 – 00:53:48:19
And then he's saying, I'd better not tell her about that. Or there may be conversation you're opening. It's not you're opening yourself up to issues. I think that would be my advice. Yeah. The, the I mean, again, the chatting is, is fine. A playful flirt in whatever. It's, you know, it's down to but sexting I, I for me that's, that's a step too far.

00:53:48:21 – 00:54:18:11
And then the, you know the, the one time images where they disappear so she could send anything and he could send anything after they've opened it. You can't retrieve that message again. And you have no idea what they're sending to each other. And the further that that relationship, goes down the line, and the stronger that it gets into whatever they're talking and sending to each other, I just think it's just you're in a hiding to nothing and also a mate.

00:54:18:11 – 00:54:38:13
You are. You got to be. You got to be aware of the feelings of the other person as well. You might be led down this garden path when they're just being used. So I appreciate it. I just don't think there's a positive outcome out from this. But what about it? You know, so you're saying, yeah, it's very hot, hot steamy sex session.

00:54:38:15 – 00:55:01:15
Yeah. But so you could have an affair with someone and have a hot, steamy sex session. But it doesn't mean you should know. That's right. Let's get bra. Yeah. I think, both Flav and I are in agreement with that one, and I don't think you should allow. Is that the word allowing him? I don't think she carries it.

00:55:01:17 – 00:55:21:21
Yeah. That's it. I don't think you should encourage it. Is what I, is what I'm saying. So we're going to go into something only you know now. Why something, you know.

00:55:21:23 – 00:55:55:12
Royal marine hard core. Former serving former serving Royal Marine. I finished jungle trading in 2006 and ended up in a well known brass house, well strip club cum nightclub. I had a threesome with one of my mates with a brass. I was going out her from behind and he asked me to switch places. We switched places, switch switched slightly, switch switched from switch places.

00:55:55:14 – 00:56:27:08
And she's now chowing down on my member hyena on sausages corpse. I say to her, get round my baffins bridge, implying my gooch. I've never heard that term. Bevin's bridge back. She puts my ankles to my ears like a circus contortionist that dons a condom on her middle finger and ring finger and starts to finger bang my asshole like I'm like I'm hiding treasure inside there.

00:56:27:10 – 00:56:49:15
Jesus, my mate starts retching at the sight of me and ask me to leave. I pick up my clothes on. He's he's mates. Ask him to leave because he was getting fingered by. No, she was finger banging. He's also. Yeah. So. And his mate asked him to leave. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't I kiss you? Leave you nothing to do this.

00:56:49:17 – 00:57:17:18
Well, might be able. Might be his, bro. See you tonight. Well, I mean, it's says that's a condom on a. Picked up my clothes and, I picked my clothes up and walked to the door. I looked back at his pale ass going hell for leather like a Jack Russell in heat. So I open and closed the door, but quietly walked back in and finished myself off over his feet for a laugh.

00:57:17:20 – 00:57:46:05
I covered his feet in the thickest man's magma. It was basically a fully formed child. I ran away giggling. He never once brought this up, and that's something only I know that is. Feet came on his face. It's cream. It's left, right, left hand, listless. So he's had his legs pinned behind his head. Right? Yeah. Fingered by the that he was with.

00:57:46:07 – 00:58:03:06
Yeah. He's been told by his mate who's disgusted at seeing that. Yeah. I don't like that. Get out of here because I want to finish or I want to have my guy. Yeah. You walk out and something goes, I. You know what? I'm gonna go back on on the company's feet. How?

00:58:03:08 – 00:58:33:24
I was that. Well, it's it's, x x Royal Marine. Like these lads are wired different in that these days. I've heard a lot of army stories. Marine stories that where lads have done the most, speakable heinous types of fucking gags on each other, which is absolutely gross. And I. I'm up for a laugh, you know, I'm bloody up.

00:58:34:01 – 00:58:59:18
But some of this stuff is just way too far. They're a fucking different breed. So, thank you for sending that in. That was, that was me. Yeah. So next week we're going to be talking about the submersible, the Titan. So if you've got any adventurous, like, mad experiences that you've had or you connected to the story or know any conspiracy stories, send it in to lads.

00:58:59:18 – 00:59:23:00
Anon pod at gmail.com. And if you follow us on social, I bloody hope you do. And you see any of our reels or TikToks, please share them with your mates. Via DMs if they're interested, if they're into that humor, if you want to get them into the podcast, that would be highly appreciated and we will see you on Monday.

00:59:23:02 – 00:59:48:23
Game night, hazy light, Band of Brothers playing tunes High is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is that we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

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I'll put my heart in this. Man always got to talk about the hardest. Everyone. I put my heart in this. I like how it's weird I did that weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, how things go viral on either Instagram or TikTok is incredible. Like, I know a lot of people say that the world is a worse place off with social media.

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It's really bad for mental health. Always looking over at the neighbor, keeping up with the Joneses type attitude and all things like that. But there is some absolute fucking dynamite on social media that just gets me through the day. Like I do need to have a sit down and a 20 minute scroll and reels, you know, if. Oh yeah, yeah, I'd sit there instead of doing anything instead of doing this right now, I'd rather just be on my back just watching TikTok.

00:01:02:11 – 00:01:21:13
But if I'm being honest, I'd like to just do that, if that's all right. There's this kid in. He's named YJ. He's blown up. He's a. Do you know what it is on Tik Tok? You got to have something odd about you. Like you have to have something that makes you pause, goes. That's weird. What are you watching?

00:01:21:15 – 00:01:43:08
I think that's the key to TikTok. Like that being okay. About eating, about swallowing properly. Yeah, he fascinates me. He does. He and he has got some mental nasties on him as well. I want, I want to I think we could do an episode on him. We did an episode. What do we do? Paedo hunters. Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with doing an episode on characters on, on on TikTok.

00:01:43:10 – 00:02:10:22
Well, yeah. I mean, there is. So we did one on I think there's generally like social media. I can't even remember what the fucking episode was now. But yeah, but there is definitely something on the characters that are on TikTok. If you think about them, they're all a bit, just a bit. If you met them, you go to he's odd, you got that model, the white guy from London who sings in it does reggae or ragga.

00:02:10:23 – 00:02:31:15
Yeah, yeah. And he, he talks with, Jamaican twang just at London accent as well. Like he has. Yeah. He's like he's just in terms of like appropriating a culture. He's just gone. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Yeah. And I don't. And but I don't think, I don't really I'm not the best person to define how you appropriate a culture.

00:02:31:17 – 00:02:53:04
But my understanding is if you if it comes from a place of sincerity and, and it helps boost something and then he's a positive reflection then then that's all right I think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no I, I'm, I'm, I would agree with you on that because that's what I would have said as well. It's only when it's taken to mock and imitate and be a bit, you know.

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Yeah. Like the one, it's like the one, you know when like white guys have or white girls have dreadlocks. And then again, we shouldn't be wearing those dreadlocks because it's not your culture. And then they go fucking that dreadlocks. So that's not what one upmanship isn't it. Did Vikings have dreadlocks? I don't know, mate. That's what I say okay I don't know.

00:03:15:20 – 00:03:31:06
I don't know, maybe. I don't think so. Good of them. But that's what they say anyway to go with it. Let's go, let's go.

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On the night I see like Band of Brothers playing tunes. He's quite midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek banners. And we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:03:59:01 – 00:04:26:05
Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous. It's episode 37, a podcast where two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join in that sex. I swear, no matter what subject will be discussed, that is. Well, we'll focus on a specific subject matter first, then just sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How you doing, Flav? Is this drink that I'm holding, masculine or feminine?

00:04:26:06 – 00:04:55:09
I would say more on the feminine side. Pink lemonade, sparkling drink made with real raspberry and lemon juice. Yeah. And the it's pink colored and then red letter written with a big. I did have a picture of a strawberry on there. I think it's a lemon. Yeah. Oh, good. Podcasting. Yeah. How about you? Right. Yeah, fine.

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Everything's good. Massive shout out to Jay again. Who, sort this out for, when we for for letting us go sort of boxing, basically. So massive. Thank you. Said he's, he's in the he's in the bad books because his daughter found out his daughter listens to lads. Anonymous. Oh my God. Really? Yeah. She's listening. She'll probably almost certainly be listening to this now I'd imagine, because why not?

00:05:17:19 – 00:05:42:13
She listened to last week and she found out that her dad, instead of taking the family, we went instead. We had a really bad time. Yeah, it was rubbish. Keys were bad. The drinks were flat. The food was disgusting. Her name is Matilda, and she's angry about, we just want to say on behalf of your father we're sorry.

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Yeah. And, we'll never do it again. No, we will absolutely never do that again. Never do. We'll never do it again. And thank you to, the lads who have donated as well. Has there been, there has been some. Yeah, yeah, I saw, I saw on the donation page, we will again. We will stick the link for where to donate to.

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Can you remember the charity is the well it goes to the link and then you can, then you donate it. What. The charity is papyrus prevention, not suicide. So if those that didn't listen to last week's episode, young girl Poppy took her own life and think it was 2021. And to remember her, they did a walk to raise money for this charity, and, the nearly raised 4,000 pounds.

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So why not? If you can, if you have the spare cash, let's try and get them over. Over, over that 4,000 pound mark. I'd be lovely, wouldn't it? That would be amazing. And, yeah, we had a fantastic time at the at the boxing. So thank you very much indeed. Yeah. Last week's episode but spring is gone down.

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Well go and have a listen to it if you haven't already. We kind of list the things that we argue do to get you out of bed that spring you up at your bed, because normally, if you're like me, I will stay in there for as long as I possibly can. So go and check that out. Spotify comments.

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We've, worrying under under that episode, we've got one comment and it was it was a joke. Yeah. What's the worst thing to feel when going for a colonoscopy? Both. The doctor's. Both the doctor's hands on your shoulders. Just just so. Yeah, I like that. I like that is good. Sexual assault. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Is that. Common.

00:07:51:08 – 00:08:16:06
Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, wherever you get your social media at, lads. Anon pod. If you see anything on Instagram, on TikTok and you want to get your mate involved in the podcast, DM the real or video because it really helps us, boost our reach the videos to get out there. So can you please do that?

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That would be much appreciated. Now today's topic I have been waiting to do because it kind of I think about it a lot. I really do think about it. I'll think about it way too much than I should. So today's topic is the Titan submersible. Now I'm going to read you a little bit about it if you don't know what I'm talking about on the 18th.

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On the 18th of June, 2023, Titan, a submersible operated by the American Tourism and Expeditions company Ocean Gate, imploded during an expedition to view the wreck of the Titanic in the North Atlantic Ocean off the coast of. I can never say This Newfoundland New found that. New. Found it. Is it new found in. Yeah. Okay. Can it Canada I can I put it in Google is Newfoundland.

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Newfoundland. It's it throws me off aboard the submersible was Stockton rush, the American chief executive officer of Ocean Gate, Paul Henry Noguera, a French deep sea explorer and Titanic expert. Hamish Harding, another two gentlemen, British businessman. Shaw Star de DeWitt of the that and his son as well Suleyman Rush realized that visiting shipwreck sites was a method of getting media attention.

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Ocean gate had previously conducted voyages to other shipwrecks, including its 2016 dive to the wreck Andrea Doria aboard other submersibles, Cyclops one. So before we start and get into this and get into the kind of the nitty gritty of it, we just want to say that obviously this what this incident was a tragedy. Five people lost their lives.

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And the information that we will be discussing has been gathered by an idiot myself. So it might not be 100% accurate, factually correct. There's lots of conflicting reports, not just the stuff that we're talking about. All right. So but yeah, but it's going to be fucking it's going to it's going to live in you up. Can you remember where you were when this happened.

00:10:44:04 – 00:11:21:21
Well so so to kind of help you out a bit, it was Father's Day in England. Not really, I didn't I was kind of late to the party. Like I was like, you know, when everyone was sort of buzzing for it when they were first realized that they might feverish me, that that's me. Yet there was this mad excitement about it when it when the, I was standing with my nose maybe three inches in front of the telly like I do when I'm watching the football, standing up my nose pressed against the flat screen TV.

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And I'm just consuming everything, everything that's going on and woke up to that. There had been a submersible, which was a new, new word for me. Yeah. What's the difference between a submersible and a submarine? So I think it's because it's smaller and it and operationally it, it doesn't do as much as a submarine would do I think.

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Okay. All right. So yeah, waking up and seeing what had happened is that a submersible, this capsule had descended in the ocean to go and check on or to go and look at the Titanic wreckage. And then they had lost contact with it, and that's when they started getting excited in it. How weird. Yeah, it's like like. All right, this is quite interesting.

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What they're doing. What? They've lost controls. Okay, now I'm invested. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Like it. What it it was it felt like the world stood still and it cut like we, we discussed it on the last episode. It was like a smaller version of 911. But you also get these little nuggets throughout the years. Do you remember when the, I think he was, the was it the Thai children that were in a cave?

00:12:49:02 – 00:13:03:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it says the football team that got the went. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they, that she made a film about this, I think, I think I watched it, it was like, yeah, yeah, it's worth watching. My favorite thing about all of that, though, isn't the fact that the kids got the start.

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It was that Elon Musk got really annoyed because someone else was trying to save the kids, and he called the kids were trying to save them a nonce. Yeah.

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Apparently, I think Elon Musk has this deep sea, deep sea diving equipment, like a single capsule that a diver could get in and navigate through these caves under the wall, to go and save these children. And the guy was like, I think it's too big of an experience, diver. I can go free. Yeah, of course you. Are you a nonce?

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Of course you will. You will go in there and you just want the children to yourself. Yeah. So fucking. Oh, yeah. I watched the film about it. I can't remember if it was any good, but I remember being right. But it's a start. There's something about disasters that that just attracts attention. And in a capsule late like 911, I remember when it happened, I remember exactly where I was when that happened, because it was a, I think about 1:00 hour time, lunch time and neighbors was, we were watching neighbors and it just cut the instant termination of the program just went straight to the twins.

00:14:12:16 – 00:14:30:17
Really? Yeah. And the news then just started rolling for it when it would. Neighbors would have been channel four, I think. Well, maybe one other whatever, but, Yeah. And then you just you sat there, didn't you? You sat there for yet hours, hours and hours. And another one was when the fuel crisis, when there was not much fuel and people queuing up.

00:14:30:19 – 00:14:51:17
Less exciting, obviously, but but still that got me there. The, there was another one as well. Do you remember the Chilean miners say that there were some miners, and that like, that didn't do it for me. That one? No, no. What really bothered about the miners? I didn't want any harm to come to them, obviously.

00:14:51:17 – 00:15:09:24
I think I wanted them to get out, but I wasn't really kind of bothered, didn't it? I mean, it didn't not they didn't flip the switch for, you know, one of the ones I liked wasn't sniper mate. That was quality. That was mad. That was it. I mean, quality in that it was like, what the fuck is going on?

00:15:10:01 – 00:15:30:07
Yeah, I'm going to say, this is gonna sound bad. Okay. Go a little bit gutted when they call him. It's when did it go on a bit longer. And you know, when they found Jay Slater I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's over now. Then they found him. They said a little bit of me though. That's always like was it Jay Slater?

00:15:30:09 – 00:15:59:05
Right. It could have been apparently that when they found him that the body had been mutilated or eaten or whatever, it's fallen a long way and it. Yeah. So yeah. And we probably would have been wearing his clothes and stuff like that. But it's always in these things where people have. But like, especially in the Titan a day, there is not not that anyone would survive at all.

00:15:59:07 – 00:16:21:11
But there's always like they haven't I haven't seen the bodies. I haven't been shown, I haven't seen anything I didn't see, like, a sea burial or anything like, could they be washed up somewhere, like. Well, I don't know. They didn't. They do like a see, this is the thing with information around this. I got another one for you, actually, just before we do go into the submersible.

00:16:21:13 – 00:16:41:21
Yeah. Plane that disappeared. Your love. This one. The M9 for free or something like that. It's the plane that went off the radar and they didn't know where it once it was in the Indian Ocean. Do you know what I'm talking about? I do because someone on Twitter sent this to me via DM, and it was like a documentary or a short, short, it's good.

00:16:41:23 – 00:16:58:11
And it was like I didn't watch it because I was like, mate, I'm not watching anything you've listened to, like anonymous. You know what? What I'm about. And he was like, no, no, no, no, no, it's nothing about playing. You just see a flashing light and then the plane disappears and, or something along those lines.

00:16:58:11 – 00:17:14:02
I still don't want to see it. Still don't want to be in a plane when it disappeared. When that news went, though, Ricky, I was just infatuated by it. Yeah, I was, like, following it. And then they never found it. And then it was like two years, and then they found a bit of fuselage on a beach somewhere that washed up.

00:17:14:04 – 00:17:33:14
But I reckon. Really? Yeah. They found bits. Never. I don't think they found the black box which did tell them what happened, but they reckon it was pilot. The pilot did it. Oh fucking hell. Really? It was like he went a bit mental or something like that. Shit. And I always think is what, what, like what would the black box tell you?

00:17:33:14 – 00:17:49:15
You pick it up. Unless you said you just go where? No. I think we should get Ben on. Really? To say what I thought the black box does, but imagine, like, it's the speed it was traveling, direction. It was traveling. I don't think it's like the maybe the voice recordings. I don't know what is in the. But what is in the black box.

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I could probably Google it, but can't be bothered. Yeah, no. Fair enough. But, the submersible. Yeah, yeah, the submersible. So leading up to this point, right. And doing my research, there was a lot of regulations and a lot of, you know, the certifications that it needed to be, to be classed as a, I don't know, a boat or submersible, whatever it is, it didn't do any of those.

00:18:20:02 – 00:18:36:14
Just totally, totally ignored it. Too much red tape. Yeah, too much red tape. And I don't know if I've got the quote here, but the owner, Stockton Rushing I mean that is a, that's a, that's a healthy American name. Stockton.

00:18:36:16 – 00:19:07:10
He he said that the red tape stifles innovation. It cost too much and it's too timely. So he proceeded to go forward with it. Anyway. Now I'm going to read you a little bit of this as well. So it was made by carbon fiber. And there's other bits and pieces as well. But carbon fiber had been sourced at a discount from Boeing because it was too old for use in the company's airplanes.

00:19:07:12 – 00:19:41:04
Boeing have stated they have no records of any sale to Stockton Rush or to Ocean Gate. Now, that's your first red flag. Yeah. That's right. You know, maybe. Yeah. Like just so you think about it. Don't buy out carbon. That's not good enough for planes. Experts expressed concerns over the design as well. Didn't they. The carbon fiber that was the yeah I remember him saying that you can't carbon fiber isn't dealt for that level of pressure and he's gone the don't agree.

00:19:41:06 – 00:19:58:15
No. Well I, we, I mean we feel like we should at least highlight the fact that this is might be dangerous. Still going to stick with it. So yeah. And say Lori isn't alone. Laura said you can't take that vehicle in the sea because no one's owns the sea. You can do what the fuck you want at it, right?

00:19:58:17 – 00:20:20:16
That's exactly that's exactly what it is. Because there isn't a law there. So it can't be governed by the same. If you did it in the lake Superior in Michigan. Yeah. That massive like the they the Michigan Police Department might have an issue. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Or off the coast of Florida, then you'd be in trouble because they couldn't jurisdiction.

00:20:20:16 – 00:20:41:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up until a certain point in the sea. That's right. And then it stops. And then no one claims there. So if you go out further enough to see, you can do whatever you want, basically for anything but anything. We commit a heinous crime out there. Well I don't well I mean I'm just guessing there, but I mean, set up your your jurisdiction.

00:20:41:23 – 00:21:26:18
You've met a woman, you've murdered a woman. It's not your jurisdiction. So, you know, you're just you're you are in the middle of the ocean, like, you know. Oh, that's really bad. Fuck the police here. Well, I like to be the I know, you know, it's it's like your jurisdiction. They have interviewed or because I think there's an investigation that's going on at this moment as to why it happened, but there's been a lot of, former employees and there have been some whistleblowers, and there's been a lot of people that I've given advice as to say that this submersible cannot take the amount of pressure that it is as it's going down and from

00:21:26:18 – 00:21:52:24
the materials from the hull and it's been through a lot of other testing, and it's kind of just about made it or there's been cracks and they've covered it up and stuff like that. Anyway, it, it would never it through the rigorous testing that I should have gone through for them to be able to go to the bottom of the ocean, to get all the, you know, the techs, it would never have got there.

00:21:53:01 – 00:22:16:24
So what I think like what I can't get my head round is the guy that owns the company. Yeah. He's like, I think we should do it anyway. Yeah, let's do it. I think let's do it. And you know what? I'm going to get in as well. That's how confident I am. I am going to go I'm going to know what you know what else?

00:22:16:24 – 00:22:51:10
I'm gonna take some people with me. I can test this on my own. I'm taking family members. I'm taking people with families. Yeah. Apparently. So this is so the the Titanic lies at the bottom of the ocean floor. 12,500ft. And the descent takes two hours to get there. Now, with these dives. So the the Titan and there is there was another one as well.

00:22:51:12 – 00:23:18:22
They're done. Lots of, I think the Titan who used to be another Cyclops one or Cyclops two. And then it had some updates and it became the Titan. And out of the 9090 dives, only 13 times did they reach their destination. The other times they had to abort the mission because of weather malfunctions. Whatever it might have been.

00:23:18:24 – 00:23:42:24
That's a fucking pretty shit statistic, isn't it? That success rate? Yeah, of going down to the Titanic right. So I still like, with all these things. Right. So the guy, to be fair, that I'm just right near that done 50 dives, test dives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, no, but I think that this was any different. The depth was more though, wasn't it.

00:23:42:24 – 00:24:10:12
It was more the 12,000ft. Yeah. And I think they had been to the Titanic three times. Oh so they had made it before. Yeah. Yeah. In 2022. Twice I think it was. And then 2021 one. So something like that. But still with even if you have made it like it, which, you know, reminds me of everybody's me a my car.

00:24:10:14 – 00:24:30:13
So I have I often have orange or red. I hate your car and I've never been in it. I yeah, I hate every car I've ever owned. I hate them. The engine inspection light comes on, and I know when I'm driving to your house, it's going to take me 2.5 hours. And I know at some point it will come on.

00:24:30:15 – 00:24:57:12
But I'm willing to take the risk. But with that risk at the end of it doesn't result in a catastrophic implosion where I would be at the bottom of the sea dead. Yeah. And if that was to happen, I probably wouldn't have made that journey. But I still, even though I know that the warning and something could happen, my engine could, you know, go into a ball of flames or it could still and I'd have to park at the side of the road, whatever.

00:24:57:17 – 00:25:17:00
It's not going to be as catastrophic as that. Yeah. So we would still go through with it. I love you how your missus just does like she doesn't. She just ignores it. Doesn't she know? Yeah. Oh yeah. But you're in that. You're in the passenger seat. Just stare. Staring at the orange light. My, It's horrible. And also, there'll be times where.

00:25:17:01 – 00:25:33:14
Because I don't really use the car, and then I'll. Then it'll be to. Oh, I need to go to a shop to get milk or need to do something, whatever. And I'll get in the car and the orange engine inspection light will be on, and I'll come back in and I'll say, bloody orange inspection lights. Come on. Yeah, I know it came on a few days ago.

00:25:33:16 – 00:25:55:05
Oh did it, did you didn't think of telling me. Just carrying on, driving around in this fucking deathtrap. At least let me get it sorted, because you can't fix it. It's impossible. Not. No, it's you know, no one will ever know what is wrong with. But with the, with the submersible. And they know everything that's wrong with it.

00:25:55:05 – 00:26:37:04
And they still are willing to take the dive. There's like, And there's been so many, like, advice. And I again, with the people that were on board the, the, the billionaire businessman, the French expert, deep sea diver, and the gentleman who was a titanic expert and wanted to see it. And I think he was going to say a billionaire as well, when they had to go in there that to sign, obviously a waiver and on the waiver three times it said it is an experiment.

00:26:37:08 – 00:27:00:16
This the Titan is an experiment. And obviously there's there's a chance that you could die. Like what? What I try to get my head round. What would put you in that situation that you want to see the Titanic I've seen the I've seen the Titanic. I've seen it. There's nothing that would put me in that submarine. What's the fucking film?

00:27:00:18 – 00:27:24:23
It's this, right, that I'd just quickly read was. Was James Cameron popping up for me? What advice? He could come from a fucking Titanic expert now, are you, son? Oh, you made a film back in 1996 about Kate Winslet, about a boat that went down, and now you're taking him out for building a submersible. He's like, that's my boat.

00:27:24:23 – 00:27:51:02
I don't want you guys down there. That was the. It was a bit rebellious. Oh, and I tried to steal my money for my film. Just make your fucking films. Yeah, exactly. So I like. I cannot believe that these people went on there knowing the risks, but the little. I don't know if you've seen it, the the kind of the viewing that if he call it glass of Time, he can't see anything.

00:27:51:08 – 00:28:17:01
It's not looking through a 15 inch laptop monitor. Yeah. That's the viewing. That's that's how you're going to view it. They couldn't have it bigger because the it's preciousness but keeping the glass. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the people that came forward and said about all the different things that could go wrong, the, the screen apparently could only they had only pressure tested it to 4000ft underwater.

00:28:17:01 – 00:28:41:00
And the Titanic is like 12,000 plus. But what what what were they thinking? Oh, don't worry about, all right? Just just go with it. It's crazy man. And so I don't know what was going through these people's minds. I mean, I guess they just something, you know, that. Yeah. You know, adventurous expedition just fucking now. Like. And the worst part is.

00:28:41:00 – 00:29:05:04
All right. Fine. If you want to do that, feel rich. Do we want. It's not going to impact anyone. Black. What? The businessman went there. I'm going. And, son, you're coming with me. And it's like, genuinely, there isn't an 18 year old on earth that wants to go down that fucking thing. No, I had actually read afterwards as well that the son was nervous and scared to go on.

00:29:05:04 – 00:29:27:09
It. Didn't want to go in. It, but because his dad was going on it and it was Father's Day, he wanted to be of his dad, so he decided to go around. Fuck your dad. That's what I'd say, I think. Yeah. That's like when my on my birthday, my dad made me go up the Eiffel Tower and, but halfway up, I was like, fuck you, dad, you've done this.

00:29:27:11 – 00:29:51:14
The the submersible. I was reading as well that it's a it's a tiny, tiny like, room that they would get in. So this capsule that they get in, you all kind of sit there with your legs stretched out, and there is no room for anything. You can't, you know, get up and walk about or anything like that.

00:29:51:14 – 00:30:18:02
It's not like a submarine or anything. You just come in this tiny little capsule and when you get in the hatch, they put the hatch down and then they built it up. They bolt the hatch up. Like, for me, that's that's that's my first. Well, yeah. Just like after they start doing the first one I'd be knocking on it and then I, you just just let me out.

00:30:18:04 – 00:30:51:04
It is like this door. I think the thing that I can't get over is the thought process of going through these different stages. So they're on this. So the, where the Prince Polar, I believe what is called is the big ship that carries the Titan and it sailed from, you found land to the wreckage of the Titanic, and then they decide, okay, the weather's good enough.

00:30:51:04 – 00:31:10:14
Let's go. Now, your mind going in that you're on this big boat, and now you're, you know, you're going onto this tiny little submersible. Not cool. That your mindset must be insane to do that. And no to that. They're going to screw it together and you're going to descend for two hours to get to the bottom of the ocean.

00:31:10:19 – 00:31:33:07
Not in that two hours. But do you think they were allowed to take food? I mean, that's two hours going under the water, like, you would get it would have been some food in there. Dimension 12. What you've taken, instantly just said cheese sandwich in my head. I would have gone for fish that had been microwaved.

00:31:33:09 – 00:31:51:08
Did that tuna in there? What would you need to put? Peanuts? Robots, actually. Hotel in my toilet. So, like, if you're sitting there, you'd be like, it's the last thing I want is for my dads to, Dad, can you just look out of that little monitor there? Because I need to do a poo in this test. Go back.

00:31:51:10 – 00:32:12:12
Not fucking, you know, so I ordered diagrams with them in there. They're all sort of, uncomfortable. Exactly. I wouldn't even want to be on the boat that the submersible was launched from, let alone in that fuck. You know, you're in the middle of the ocean. No fucking way. And as well, like the average human farts 14 times a day, do you going to be on there?

00:32:12:12 – 00:32:31:23
You're going to get stomach cramps. You're going to need to live like a couple out. Like it's just so this is uncomfortable. And again, mate, did you see what they how they drove the thing with that little joystick. Yes. Exactly right. That that's a crap. Like if I had never seen that, I would be gone. I'm not good on this.

00:32:32:04 – 00:32:51:03
It would be so many warning signs. So many times I would have gone, no, I'm not doing this. This is clearly dangerous. That's, How much is this costed? 250 grand for the kids as well. A 500 grand. Think you can. How much fun you can have with 500 grand on this planet. It's so much fun. It's so much.

00:32:51:05 – 00:33:24:15
Do anything you want or what you need to do is do. This day, I'm gonna spend 500 grand for me and the boy to go down and see the Titanic for us. I told you, can't barely see. Anyway, now it's steering controls consisted of a Logitech 5710 wireless game controller. Now, the use of commercial off the shelf game controllers is common for remote controlled vehicles, such as an unmanned aerial vehicles or bomb disposal robots.

00:33:24:18 – 00:34:04:13
Yeah, I've heard that. What's the not? It's the United States Navy uses Xbox 360 controllers to control periscopes in Virginia class submarines, so it is common practice to use remote controls in the Navy. In the Army, where if the drones are for bomb disposal. But it's not for steering a submersible when you're nearly like 12,000ft under the, you know, I mean, it's like, how much like the the amount of times that I'm at home and my, my mobile phone won't connect to my headphones through Bluetooth.

00:34:04:13 – 00:34:29:14
Yeah. I'm not 12,000ft under the fucking sea. Did you. So as a Bluetooth controller. Well, it's wireless controller. That's crazy. It's like you can't plug it in. I don't even trust I've got a PlayStation remote er, and it's got a lead in it. I don't even trust it to not connect. And I'm in an office. Exactly. So there is so many.

00:34:29:15 – 00:34:57:13
There is again, there is no GPS underwater. The support ship, which monitored the position of the Titan relative to its targets, sent text messages to provide distances and directions. What? So they would they would listen how long it would take to come back and decide, well, yeah. All right. Yeah. And then, they would send text messages to each other.

00:34:57:15 – 00:35:19:11
Yeah. To say where to say where they were. Reception out, down the fucking like this is why I can't, I can't let this incident go because it just fucking wrecks my mind. That wireless controller, what have you have no reception at the bottom of the ocean. Like it's just so many things. I'm like, fucking up. This is mad.

00:35:19:17 – 00:35:47:13
I've just. This is mad. Logitech, f 710 controller called out in 50 million pound lawsuit. Logitech probably guy voice. It's no, we haven't done an event. We didn't turn into that one play submarine. This is the ticket. That's it. $30. $30. Fuck you know, man, you can still buy him recording the messages when the, submersible went down.

00:35:47:13 – 00:36:16:07
Right. So there's conflicting stories. So it's a two hour descent. Some say it was after 45 minutes, and some say it was an hour. And 45 minutes is when they lost contact. And there's conflicting reports on the last message. Receive. So the last message text message they say they received from, the polar prince was confirming. So they keep in contact every 15 minutes.

00:36:16:09 – 00:36:42:03
They were messaging to saying, can you still see us on the screen? No answer. Can you still see us? Do you know where you are? Can you still see us? And they got a text message back. Just saying. All good friends up from this up all good. There's another one that says the last message received was dropped to whites.

00:36:42:05 – 00:37:23:05
So it's assumed the Titan was ascending, not descending when it imploded, because the Titan has these, bits of palace like, so weights on it to keep it, buoyant, neutral. So the closer that you get to the seabed, it'll be a negative buoyancy. So you need to lose some weight so you get neutral buoyancy. Now, if the last text message was dropped, two weights would have been that you're getting closer to the seabed and you need to balance out or there's been a malfunction.

00:37:23:07 – 00:37:52:07
You need to drop your weights. And so that will cause the submersible to rise. So the minute Ricky. So you're saying they just didn't put the joystick down and it went up, they'd have to drop this right? That's right. And so I think as well that yes, they use the joystick but in emergency cases to get yourself going up at a quicker rate, they would drop the weights for them to descend, to ascend faster.

00:37:52:09 – 00:38:24:18
Now I think something like when no one's ever going to know. And again, that's depths of me that I just can't. I can't take it that no one knows what has happened to this submersible. Now it's going up right. And I think the earlier reports that I was reading was that it was going up, and they couldn't get it up to a quick to a quick enough rate, and not because it was having a malfunction.

00:38:24:18 – 00:38:51:19
And they knew that something was up. And so they dropped these weights for it to ascend. And it didn't happen quick enough. And then it imploded. There are other reports that say that they this is standard practice, that they drop the weight so that it has balancing neutral. Anyway, there was so they know there was an implosion right.

00:38:51:21 – 00:39:33:22
And the simulation suggests the implosion of the vessel took less than one second, likely only tens of milliseconds faster than the brain can process information. There would not have been time for the victims to experience the collapse of the hull, and they would have died immediately with no pain as their bodies were crushed. For me, I think they would have known that I like, like like I know like it happened really quickly, but they would have had heard a crack in the how they would have been flashing red as to say, warning danger.

00:39:33:22 – 00:39:53:20
They would have known that they are in fuckin in the book. But but the experts are saying they wouldn't have known. Ricky. You're saying they would have. They would if they they would have been fear. They would have known that they. And then there would have been maybe a flash of light and light and again as well, like, because nobody can report on this, obviously.

00:39:53:22 – 00:40:22:02
But if you were to have you, if you were decapitated. Yeah. Like once you decapitated everything doesn't go off because there's still your brain is still there, there's blood still there. And then it's just waiting for everything to drain out. Right? That I'm. I'm almost certain that there would have been. Why why why why why? Because. Because you want them to have fear of death.

00:40:22:04 – 00:40:44:01
But I think it's that that knowing that I thought that that that the, the recent discoveries of the thing showed that it it wasn't all crumpled up. It was it was shot. So they say in two parts, they conflicting. They. Exactly. They found like the tail. Yeah. On the bottom and what they call a debris field. Yeah.

00:40:44:01 – 00:41:05:14
And in this debris field, the it's assumed as well that, they found body parts. This was and this was four months after. Well, we're not the fully formed hands, so they're just talking about the I don't know, I don't know because there's no fight and there's no footage. And if you want photos, don't you think this is.

00:41:05:14 – 00:41:30:08
Well, it's so deep under the, And they're talking about the compression and everything. Like if the human body, if they were human remains, why haven't they been crushed or, if they have been crushed? When you say human remains, they're not like you don't they're not. They're film. They might like bone and stuff like that. Not not like a fully formed.

00:41:30:10 – 00:41:46:05
Yeah. No, not fully formed. But why have an why would that not be of like crushed it. Because they, they, they said the first report and no I don't think that it was that you want what you want. I don't I just want to see something you want to you want to see how much body parts. That's what you want.

00:41:46:07 – 00:42:05:12
Say they said that they would have been vaporized and they've gone in here. And so if they go in in milliseconds, how can they find. But this was body. This was information ages ago. I think things have changed. I don't think it the pictures show that it isn't. It's still intact to some degree. It still has the shape of it before.

00:42:05:13 – 00:42:47:07
Is it. Yeah. And and again as well. Like with, with this, submersible. And they've got like everything in the, in the you know all the debris in the debris field. You know it does it pretty crushed. I see. So they, they, they've got the got forms after the expedition that they've, they've got all the stuff for evidence to obviously put before the, the sea police or whoever they're called and they're saying that they, you know, the assumed body parts, but it's just the conflicting reports of what are they vaporized?

00:42:47:07 – 00:43:08:07
Weren't they vaporized? Is there body parts? Let me see the body parts. Like, like I just there's just too much that I want to say. Like, what about their clothes that they were wearing? But it has, as anyone seen, any clothes that they were wearing. Like, what happened to that? Surely that doesn't get. I just don't know.

00:43:08:07 – 00:43:29:18
It's newsworthy. I didn't think that it doesn't exist. I just don't think they want to show the world. Yeah, I know, I, but I need I want to see it. Sure. Surely there is like a telegram. Like someone's got the footage, someone's got a Salah's got it, someone's got it. I know they have. If you were a, a billionaire though, who is the answer?

00:43:29:20 – 00:44:10:00
Would you know it? Okay, okay, okay. I wouldn't even hot helicopter. Let me let let me go on. Let me have a chance. Here. Go. If you were, if the submersible were. Fast forward in ten years and there had been 300 successful voyages of nothing happening, people going down to the Titanic wherever you wanted to go. And they said, this is now available to humans at the price of a long haul flight to America.

00:44:10:02 – 00:44:35:02
Would you be up for doing it? My problem? I know the answer is still no, right? But okay, I'll give you some more. Why? I think that, because I'm pretty disposed to to assume that human beings are going to fail somehow. Yeah. And even if it's unlikely, I still feel like it might happen. Like when I'm in the plane, I feel like they have someone as overlooked something somewhere.

00:44:35:04 – 00:44:59:10
For sure this is going to implode. It's the whole thing's coming down all of a sudden. When we went on the Eiffel Tower, I was I realize this is stood there for, you know, countless decades. Yeah, not countless decades. You could literally count. When was it put up for days. I'm going to Google it quickly. I thought when I was going up there, it was going to fall down.

00:44:59:16 – 00:45:17:04
This would this would be on this day. This is the day it decides to all fall down, even though it's checked regularly. And we're we're at the top. Where at the very top. At the top. And just crumpled in. It's just our body bits in the crumpled metal. Somehow, when we fall out the needle at the top of the Eiffel Tower, we're just it's just pierced through all of us.

00:45:17:10 – 00:45:37:03
You, you that. Yeah, in a line. Yeah. I'm just no one else. And the thing is, just like when you're involved in an incident, that way no one remembers your name. They just remember the day the Eiffel Tower fell. Not the people that were in it. No. Tell me one name of one person in Twin Towers that died.

00:45:37:05 – 00:45:55:03
I don't know. I. I couldn't tell you what I'm saying. So if you if you're going to go, you're better off going in a way that isn't overshadowed by the magnificence of the event. Yeah, and I totally agree. I just hate it. Human beings with fail. I just think he would. The one warning signs. No red tape.

00:45:55:03 – 00:46:22:15
There's a reason why red tape and bureaucracy exists. And sometimes it's important. Don't build your own submarine and go down to 12,000ft. Basically not. That's that. That is that's sage advice. And you might want to tell that to real estate tycoon Larry Connor of Ohio, because he's planning on taking the same fateful voyage, which these guys did.

00:46:22:17 – 00:46:48:01
And he is got his own submersible as he is doing his. Yeah, yeah, he's been better built himself. I was I'm not interested. He I think he's probably built himself and I'm like, what's his name? His name is Larry Connor. I've got to check out what he's up to and thinks of it. Then he look at look at the thing is, is, well, like, like is he is he going to go through the rigorous test?

00:46:48:01 – 00:47:18:16
The, the Titan needed to have gone. What? I don't know what he would just be like. Well, like, there's no laws out there. I don't have to get certified. So fucking. Yeah, I'll literally do what I like. Yeah. He's going for. Is he? Well, look, I'd rather people be doing this and not doing it before we get on to, that I nearly forgot during the kind of whole part of the submersible being being lost.

00:47:18:18 – 00:47:41:12
Do you remember a time that reports were coming out? I think it's from the Canadian Air Force. The little taps up. That's right, that's right. That they thought. Yeah, that they were doing Morse code. I thought they were. We all thought that's when it exploded. It was that moment. That was before. Yeah. Yeah yeah. It's it's fascinating. They're trying to communicate and then they are.

00:47:41:14 – 00:47:59:00
Yeah. They were interviewing an expert on NBC. They broadcast Nova to BBC and he was got it's not them. And they were like, well hang on, let's give it. It might be them. It's not them. There is no chance you'll be able to hear that. They said this was too much going on down there. It isn't them like that.

00:47:59:00 – 00:48:25:24
It's just it's crazy because I was like, yeah, I know that there's a morse code. It's definitely more a it's definitely them. And what they were saying it was, it was done in a, in a time frame every half hour. And it was the same pattern of noises. So only a human could replicate that. And there and then you just get kind of like, fuck, they are at the bottom of the ocean stuck.

00:48:26:01 – 00:48:47:05
And there was a part during all of this that where they had all these kind of rescue ships, they couldn't locate where it was. It's in the bottom of the ocean where the Titanic is. 12 hours have been. They don't know where this fucking thing is. They're trying to find it. There's a chance that they are still alive, sitting at the bottom of the ocean and they cannot find it.

00:48:47:07 – 00:49:06:06
And when they find it, how are they going to get it up? They had no idea. They had no idea how to get it back to the surface. It's such a fucking madness. But I'm fascinated by it. But if they hadn't done that and it was just they had gone through all the red tape, it would just be a submarine that went down there and came back up.

00:49:06:07 – 00:49:23:01
No one give a shit. But this guy's like, nah, I'm going to make my own one. You going to test it in there? Done it before? It's fine. Do it again. Let's see what happens. And I don't mind I don't I can't look quite like that. Let's see what happens kind of attitude. But just don't take loads of people with you.

00:49:23:01 – 00:49:48:23
Others do it yourself. Yeah. Whatever you are. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. I agree like with these, a lot of the things that come out that I saw that I didn't really quite, didn't really sit well with me of billionaire businessman like glad it happened to them and like, boys. But it's kind of that boys with their toys or billionaires with their toys doing these stupid things.

00:49:48:23 – 00:50:05:20
It's always going to end in a so also it's all their fault. And I was a bit like, it's a bit fucking harsh. Yeah. To be like, they deserve it. Like they are going where no man has kind of gone before in these things. There was this actually, wasn't it. There was this attitude of like their rich, who cares about them.

00:50:05:22 – 00:50:24:23
Exactly. This been a really thing as well. Where a billionaire gentleman from England, I think. You think he was his yacht sank off the coast of Italy, and he had his daughter on board and a few other people, and everyone would just kind of, like, shrug their shoulders like, well, I was a billionaire in their boat. What are you going to do?

00:50:25:00 – 00:50:47:20
No. Never mind. Get on with it. That's a bit like because they've got money, that their life is of less value. So fucking. It's just I don't know, I just found it a bit stuck in the throat a bit. Yeah. With, when we're talking about the submersible and I'm trying to convince you to go on, what about Elon Musk?

00:50:47:22 – 00:51:15:22
Richard Branson, and, what's the other dude's name? Amazon. Man. Bezos. Bezos. They have their little, ships, their little planes that they fly so high, they come out of the Earth's orbit. Yeah. So you can see the curvature of the Earth. No, but you're not actually in proper space yet. But they've done it safely. No. And people are paying you.

00:51:15:22 – 00:51:43:09
But I had to. I'd rather do that than I'd rather do that than the, than go down in this up if I had a choice of one or the other. Yeah, I'll for sure. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So. Okay. Can I interest you in a parachute jump or bungee jump or submersible or submersible? What? What was the question?

00:51:43:11 – 00:52:07:03
Which one would you rather do? Bungee jump? I would, yeah, I'd be worried. I'd be deeply concerned about both. And the further east you go in the world, the more concerned about life. Wise life. I just think you've got a better chance in the UK with a bungee jump than you have in Thailand. Oh. It's a. Yeah, I see what you mean.

00:52:07:05 – 00:52:27:16
They say we mean if you go, I wanna go Thailand. I'm going traveling or Cambodia or wherever. And they go, oh, do you want to go on that zip line? No. No one's going to fucking zipline. What are the rigs in this country? What kind of regulations they got here that I care about anything like that? That even if someone dies in the zipline.

00:52:27:18 – 00:52:49:11
Well, apparently with this, they don't fucking care about regulations. In the ceva let you do anything, so I think this it draws to a conclusion that neither of us would ever go on the Titan or anything like that. Do you know what? I wouldn't even go on a helicopter. I know, not really, but I don't know. No, no, no, I just want to be safe.

00:52:49:11 – 00:53:15:13
I'm warning signs. Do you need, like, how many more times the helicopter have to crash and blow up? Do you need before you stop letting them know exactly? I wouldn't even get in a hot air balloon. I don't think that they're pretty nasty as well as how that doing. However, they fuck that, fuck that. We have a dilemma and something only you know.

00:53:15:13 – 00:53:43:01
The dilemma is called what's the etiquette? That's something only you know is that it's done. You that it's done. Okay, good. That is Daniel. The topic for next week. I have I was going to say I've put this off. And I have put it off. I'll be honest with you. It's been I genuinely it's been our most requested topic and it's mental health.

00:53:43:03 – 00:54:03:17
And I've wanted to keep it arm's length because I just for me personally, I don't think I was in the right mindset because I, you know, we were just starting the podcast. Things are bit, you know, uneasy in my life. And I thought, who am I to kind of chat about my mental health and not lecture people, but, you know, you get the gist of it.

00:54:03:17 – 00:54:31:07
I don't. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I think, so, so now might be the right time. And that is what we're going to be going with next week. So we're going to rip the plaster off. How do you combat your mental health? We want to hear from you. How do you regulate your moods? Is there anything that you do, particularly that kind of can bring you out of a stupor of anxiety or depression?

00:54:31:09 – 00:54:39:08
What have you found that helps?

00:54:39:10 – 00:55:05:06
Process? Oh yeah. The brass. Okay. Any, or any lotions, potions or remedies? I got mad on, a Tik Tok one. Someone sent me this TikTok and it was taking vitamin D and K, and what was it? Fucking, magnesium tablets taking them, and and it solves all of your, anxiety and anything else didn't work.

00:55:05:08 – 00:55:24:16
Didn't work? You know what it's like the anxiety. It's been it's been hijacked by people who I don't think are anxious. You reckon? I mean, so much of it now is. So it's almost like the the mental health thing is, or it's almost like.

00:55:24:18 – 00:55:45:14
It's so easy to self-diagnose. Yeah, yeah, I know, I think it might be quite damaging. Yeah. But I've got anxiety. So, so x, y and z. This I know, I know, I'm anxious I might there's a difference. Like genuine anxiety is horrendous. Is a horrendous debilitating. Can't move tomorrow. I mean it's it's horrible for sure. It's horrendous.

00:55:45:14 – 00:56:07:15
And then you've got but because it's so widely used the weight of that word is which means nothing. Now anybody says, oh, I'm anxious. They might feel anxious about a job interview. That's normal. You're suffering with anxiety because you're anxious about a job interview. But people are so quickly to, to, they say, yeah, this is, let's go.

00:56:07:17 – 00:56:32:09
Stop talking crap about this. All right? So if you've got any stories you want to send in about what we've just mentioned about mental health, do you know what? I know this loads because you emailed him previously. So get those emails in DMs and social get a lot anon pod at gmail.com and we will read you out. All the stories that you, that you send.

00:56:32:09 – 00:57:06:15
And now we're going to be going to dilemmas. Oh. So, this time you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad because that will give you a I can in your soul, alone, in your flat. Please talk to your flat bed. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve that. Like you're safe to get nice warm between breaking your land.

00:57:06:17 – 00:57:29:23
I've recently come out of a pretty long term relationship. Meaning I've been putting myself out there in the dating world for the first time in ages, and somehow I've been absolutely smashing it. I've been on 2 or 3 dates with multiple women, and things have gone well and gotten fairly fruity with all of them. But I haven't done the deed with any of them yet.

00:57:30:00 – 00:57:55:06
I need some advice as to how I should play it. Do I need to commit to one of them, or can you date multiple people at once? What's the etiquette? I get that I should probably be open with them, and I appreciate they're probably seeing other people too. What are your experiences of telling people you're dating that you're dating other people concerned it would massively put them off?

00:57:55:08 – 00:58:15:02
It's turning from being a lot of fun into a fucking nightmare. Please help me. How long has he been doing this? What does it say? No. It just says he's come out of a pretty long term relationship. That's it. I don't I genuinely, in this instance, I think it's fair game. What you're doing, I think is absolutely fine.

00:58:15:02 – 00:58:40:05
This is what I did. I wasn't sure it wasn't like, you know, there was lots of different women, not lots. There were more than I was used to. Oh, yeah. And, because you don't know until you found the one. What? What's correct. So you can't just put all your eggs in one basket because you don't know how it might work.

00:58:40:07 – 00:59:01:00
I don't think you should say anything. I think you have your right to to to work out what's right for you. Because you might make the wrong decision to be stuck in a new relationship that might not be the right way. Or if you give yourself a bit of time to make the right decision. Now, the problem is, is if you're seeing people to the point where there's feelings starting to arise, do not mean.

00:59:01:00 – 00:59:22:17
And it's like been months and you're actually starting to feel something. And at that point you've got to make a decision. But in the first instance, if you just sex in around the neck in little Horndog, you just have sex, sex in there and just having lots of sex in that thing about. Yeah, I think and you've been in a long term relationship of course you're going to want to do that is absolutely fine.

00:59:22:23 – 00:59:48:16
But you just don't. If you feel like it's getting to a point where one of them might be in serious, then you need to. Yeah, you need to to to to knock it on the head. I kind of knew when I stopped pretty early, but the, I just, I was ready when I met Ollie. I was ready to move in.

00:59:48:16 – 01:00:07:24
Move on with. Yeah. And into a new relationship. So it was kind of easy for me then, is I didn't want to do one night stands. And then I met Ollie, and then it was all sort of it all worked out for me. So it's quite a seamless thing. But but if, if, if I'd perhaps met someone else, I wasn't sure then I probably wouldn't have said anything.

01:00:08:01 – 01:00:29:13
And yeah, I would, I think the main thing is, is. So I think it's cool to tell them that, by the way, I was in a long term relationship. I don't know, like I would say, you still, like, early and say, no, sorry, no strings. I'm not looking for a relationship. Just looking for a bit of fun.

01:00:29:14 – 01:00:53:23
Yeah, put that out there. And then if if you're doing that, you're meeting up regularly. You're doing the the fruity things. And, you know, if someone is into you more than it's just a bunk up, then you would need to kind of be like, I'm not. I may, may be kind of misreading this, but I'm not as into it as you are or this is getting a bit serious.

01:00:53:23 – 01:01:18:13
I didn't want it to turn out like this. I think it's important to to kind of read that, try and read your emotions, and not string anybody along that think that it's turning into a relationship. Yeah. You just got a void. But you're fine at the moment. And let's all this is true and you are, you know, feelings are, you know, starting to revert.

01:01:18:15 – 01:01:33:16
Yeah. Or you could just, tonight, tell them, see what happens. Tell one of them if she takes it badly, don't tell the others. Yeah, yeah. Then you just lost one. Oh, just talking about each other. And then, so in men's head, you're like, if I tell everyone maybe they don't want to have sex with each other.

01:01:33:16 – 01:01:54:22
And, I could have one big sort of orgy. That's that's how men brains work sometimes it would be nice. It's like saying, everyone, like, everyone wants people to be honest and open, authentic. And I'm going to tell all of them. You tell all three of them, they will not make fuck. Yeah. You say you live with no one, so.

01:01:54:22 – 01:02:28:04
Oh, brilliant. And now we're going to go into something only you know why? Something. You know. That it's Daniel. My wife and both kids went to the gym. I was at home. I suddenly got a Snapchat from my wife. I thought to myself, that's funny. She doesn't have Snapchat. Oh, well, she must have downloaded it while the kids were getting ready.

01:02:28:06 – 01:02:53:19
So we start chatting. Nothing weird. I ask her, is that you? And the reply comes back, yes, and I get a sort of selfie confirming it's her. Well what? What else am I meant to do? Pants down? Nope. Out. And I take a quick dick pic and send that to her. That oh, go, go in. The message comes back a few moments later.

01:02:53:21 – 01:03:18:04
Dad, it's Daniel. Was that meant for me? No, no, of course it wasn't meant for you. I thought you were mum. You said you were mum. Anyway, a good few minutes later. Well, I, I'm thinking to myself I just sent a dick pic to my son. Another message comes through on WhatsApp from my wife. What have you done now?

01:03:18:06 – 01:03:40:24
Turns out she was at the hairdressers getting her hair done and he had her phone. He thought it would be funny to pretend it was mum. Well, egg on his face. Apparently he was sitting there in the hairdressers and suddenly looked a bit shocked. They came home. Our eldest was in stitches with laughter. Our youngest was a bit quiet.

01:03:41:01 – 01:04:00:03
I told him it's perfectly normal. We love each other and our marriage. If he wants to pretend he's mum again, then go ahead. There's plenty more where that came from and it's only going to be worse. And that is something only I know, mate. That's madness. And Dick picks the ADF up based on the shocking thing of it.

01:04:00:05 – 01:04:33:17
The it's the thing of he going from is that. Is that you babe? Yes it is. And like a kind of selfie sent him straight straight away Dick pic. There you go. There you go. That will happen. Even if I was talking to my misses in a racy kind of manner, which will almost never happen, I still would be sending dick pics to get to see it loads.

01:04:33:19 – 01:04:53:08
And then after looking at the height of it, just like oh, that is not appetizing, that is not going to make me go, yeah, let's, let's just fucking get it on the lad to say the dick switch over there. Like you said, there's people doing pose and send it to each other. This doesn't send dick pics I think.

01:04:53:08 – 01:05:16:20
Yes. Oh yeah for sure. For sure they would be dick pics as in flaccid or fully erect like fully erect, a bit spat out there in a that's like that's I'm sure you shouldn't send an erect penis. You might. Nah I yeah. Anyone out there wants to let us know any stories around that. Or if you ever seen your mate's erect penis, I would be, I would recoil.

01:05:16:20 – 01:05:41:20
I think if you were standing in front of me of an erection. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That would if I saw through their trousers. Mate, I've just got a weird boner, that I could get over that before sending me pictures of their erect penis. I do, I do not want to see that. And I don't get any ideas if you listening any of my mates, I remember and,

01:05:41:22 – 01:06:08:02
Spur on David's And his on the old board Spurs board we used to post on. And I found the picture of a massive erection and just posted on the board when we. It's like the Wild West that most. Did you get to tell it off? Did anyone ever go? They loved it. He left it. If there's anybody listening and you have a dilemma, we will.

01:06:08:02 – 01:06:30:19
So er if you have something only, you know, deep in the recesses of your body that you've never told anyone that you promised yourself you would see it in concrete and keep it at your feet. Send it into us. Lads, anon pod at gmail.com and we will read them out for you. Just get it off your chest.

01:06:30:19 – 01:06:49:10
You'll feel a lot lighter. Next week's topic is going to be mental health. And if you've got any stories or any kind of remedies or anything that you do that helps regulate your mental health, or if you just kind of in a bit of a, in a bit of a bad spot at the moment, you just want to chat, whatever it might be.

01:06:49:12 – 01:07:18:22
Again, email us at lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will see you next Monday. On the night hazy light Band of brothers playing tunes. Hi is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Lover music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is we like to speak. And yeah, times change.

01:07:18:22 – 01:07:24:20
But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:00:00:00 – 00:00:17:14
So you've been trying to get Coldplay tickets, have you? Yeah. Yeah, I did try and get Coldplay tickets. Tried to get them for me in the family. I went to Coldplay a couple of years ago. One of the best gigs, if not the best gig I've ever been to. And and I couldn't get tickets. I tried to get away.

00:00:17:14 – 00:00:38:08
Says tickets couldn't get them. I don't think there's any point in applying for tickets ever again. Like no one just gets tickets. I don't know where they go. That's the thing. Like I was reading on Twitter, it's like, well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I Glastonbury ticket ever in my life I've tried about 15 times. Never even. What's the point?

00:00:38:10 – 00:01:11:05
Yeah. What's the point? There is no point. Like I was reading on Twitter when, this Coldplay ticket debacle was going on. I'm like, and loads of people were just saying it hasn't even stopped selling yet on, C ticket. So Ticketmaster and they're already on Viagogo and all ticket places like that. So people have got bots, they're just bots getting all the tickets ready for resale and like, no, you, you've, you don't look can't stand a chance against bots.

00:01:11:05 – 00:01:32:01
This is this will never not happen unless the government put a stop to secondary ticket sites and they they won't I don't know, you know what? What? Do you know what I want to do? Set fire to something? No, I want to go back to the old school. I want for bundles of tickets to be at Wembley.

00:01:32:03 – 00:01:48:08
And we have to. You have to go to the stadium and you have to queue up outside like we did. Like we used to do campout three nights in a row, pitch up a tent, get pissed up with your mates ready to get those tickets. No one's going to be getting those tickets for the PE unless the people that really want those tickets.

00:01:48:12 – 00:02:16:03
I don't think you deserve anyone who wants to go to a Coldplay concert doesn't deserve to go. That's ridiculous. Why? Because that shit. Fucking hell. My like, that's out of order. They're not shit anyway. Well, shit. One of the biggest bands on the planet may so say with fucking U2. They know shit. Oh, well, that they. They've got a couple a couple of bangers.

00:02:16:04 – 00:02:43:05
Well, yeah, I would, the streets have no name. Fuck off with, with, the in Park Academy. Dave Facetune, Bono. He's a knob. Well, it's off the edge. Well, a load of cringeworthy bullshit. Come on. Does anyone listen to this? Goes actually like U2, actually. And if you do, don't fucking at me. I don't give a shit if you like U2.

00:02:43:05 – 00:03:02:06
They're they're awful. I'd say. What have got into it because of you? Okay, well, not because of you. I won't give you that much, but, I was going to say, can you just full stop that because of. Yeah, I can say it, but it's not true. But because of me. Because of you. Like Pet Shop Boys. I love how much you love Pet Shop Boys, right?

00:03:02:10 – 00:03:24:09
Yeah. When I saw Primavera last year, it was one of the best gigs I've been reading. One of the best? Yeah. It was so good that everything that they the the design, the quality of his voice. And they've got bangers. Yeah, yeah, they, I've got bangers. You never guess what I tried to get tickets for Pet Shop Boys.

00:03:24:12 – 00:03:38:05
Couldn't get em, couldn't get em all the fucking bots are got. And robots everywhere. Fuck sake. Oh, so,

00:03:38:07 – 00:04:14:11
The night. See, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band I we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to Lads anonymous. It's episode 37, a podcast about two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space where all manner of subjects will be discuss.

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We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice or handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. How's it going? Flav spotted something very funny on my phone. I can't repeat because it's deeply offensive. Not right. It's not racist. I'm just better known that you're not going Coldplay.

00:04:38:09 – 00:04:59:16
What would you do to take the whole family with you? Yeah, my kids love Coldplay. Delay. Yeah, they they they they don't lie to you. They're lying to you. They've got into it now. Right through. And they like, draw music. Did my daughter say to me, I can't remember, but she said, oh, there's a band playing. And you know, when they're just saying words and it's just I have no idea who that is.

00:04:59:16 – 00:05:18:14
It was like party for one or something. I don't fucking know. The, the plane. The plane in London tonight. That night, we should have got tickets. No we shouldn't. I'm not going to pick, and I I'm not. I'm not paying tickets for a gig for someone I don't know. Yeah, well, goodness. What if they. What if they said we have a we want to go.

00:05:18:16 – 00:05:38:08
It's for us that I say that's great. You pay for it then take mum. Yeah. When we, when we went to, we went to Boardmasters this year, we took the kids to their first proper festival is that they like choice and status. They enjoy it. Loved it. Absolutely loved it. Like, wouldn't take the girls to the festival.

00:05:38:10 – 00:05:57:23
Just playing someone that they like. It's just not enough. It was fucking dangerous. I like I think Chloe will want to go to a festival next year. Yeah, on her own. But it was dangerous, like the swaying of the crowds. They've got surge barriers now, but when crowds are moving in. So you know what it's like when you just packed in.

00:05:57:23 – 00:06:20:01
You have it a football somewhere where you cannot move for people around you. That's Yeah, that's what happened anyway. So, but yeah, we saw that. And then she wanted to see some fucking garage DJ. You become really popular on TikTok and we had to go along. And then luckily there was a big surge and all these teenagers fell over and a couple of them broke their legs, so they canceled the show.

00:06:20:01 – 00:06:39:07
So then that's it. So it was real? Fucking hell yeah. That was the right result. This video of me climbing over a fence to get away from all the crushing on TikTok. So if you type, if you if you type in Boardmasters crowd surge, there is a video from the back and you can see people climbing over a fence.

00:06:39:09 – 00:06:58:01
That's me. Oh my God, I hate women and kids. Women and kids. I was like, fuck off, get the fuck out of my way. Getting over the barrier. My women and kids are over that fence. I need to get the. I was halfway over it when he started going. Women did what I've got. I got to reverse and get back in the crotch.

00:06:58:03 – 00:07:16:12
Is that what you say? You want me back in the crush? I'm off the fence. Get back in it. So how do you know how anti productive that is for me to go back to the cross when I'm almost out of it? Just because I've got a dick that's not on.

00:07:16:14 – 00:07:42:04
The last episode, the Titan submersibles, we have had some fantastic feedback. So thank you very much. Oh, I say that Rick. Yeah, well, Eli was there for everybody. There was. And surprisingly, people want us to do more episodes like this. Bevo. So. So I should be that is the show. We did this. I believe you got a beaver in your bonnet.

00:07:42:06 – 00:07:44:16
Yeah.

00:07:44:18 – 00:08:12:13
We're doing an episode, Beaver. We will do, And Ed Matthews just doing it. We can't do that. Can't do it because he'll send for us. We'll wake up a shitty little podcast. He. Okay, let's see the shitty just. But anybody need the podcast? You might hear it, so that's fine. But, a lot of people have said about the they, they would like us to cover other shocking incidents that happened in Australia.

00:08:12:14 – 00:08:39:14
And I think 911 of that, that's a, that's a fucking big one, that one that is a bloody big one because it's enough time. So you can laugh about it now. Enough times past, right. You reckon? I don't know I think so that's that's the vibe I'm getting the some, some of the suggestions that came in was, well, this wasn't a suggestion, but somebody said that they can't get over the, the, the death of bin laden.

00:08:39:16 – 00:08:58:00
They wanted to see photos of him dead. There is no way that after all those years of trying to get him, they just they just went out to say and just throw him off about it. There's no way, no way. Where is what is he doing that they created him. He's in that wasn't it. In keeping with like wasn't it?

00:08:58:02 – 00:09:17:21
I don't know. Right. So there'll be people listening is that. Go on gun. Well what didn't leave him in the water because he was a muslim that have to do it within 24 hours of killing him or something is I am. I'm mixing up things here. Now there is something buried within 24 hours of you dying, and they're like, well, we ain't got a shovel.

00:09:17:21 – 00:09:39:09
Let's throw him in the sea. Sure, I know I did something. Does there is something in my mind that thinks that is is kind of right. And also. No, I'm. I was thinking that burial at sea is like is in keeping is not a voice. It's probably not. He's not Viking is he wasn't. If I keep you, imagine if you're there.

00:09:39:09 – 00:09:58:17
If you're in. He definitely wasn't a Viking, was he? He wasn't. You were there, right. And you shot him. You're like fucking. We've got bin laden. Tell fucking George Bush. Yeah. He's like, yeah, we shot him. And then when I we've got 24 hours to bury him off. You got a shovel. Well I'll be carrying a gun around then.

00:09:58:17 – 00:10:14:10
I don't have a shovel. What we're going to do then let's get on a boat and chuck him in and say, you out there, that's the easiest thing. What? Like the government didn't want his buddy? What do you think of it? He's got it. What? Yeah. I mean, surely that would have been like that would have been the one.

00:10:14:10 – 00:10:32:06
Keep the bloody iconic moment as to say, all right, look what I've got. I've got bin Laden's body like we've done it. But no, they they said they went out on a by, and chucked him off out to see another person. Gadhafi's body did we. Everyone knows what happened to gadhafi. You have had a hit in the pipe and they shot him in the head to go gun.

00:10:32:08 – 00:10:56:12
You know, it's like you had to go, come. I want to see that. It's like it's Saddam Hussein as well. They there was photos of him. Yeah. So I don't know I don't know. Yeah I think that's right. I mean bin laden. Where is he. Well why what actually happened? Why did they just close to see Osama bin Laden's body is buried at sea in the Arabian Sea, off the deck of the USS Carl Vinson.

00:10:56:14 – 00:11:14:20
USS military bury bin Laden's body at sea on May 2nd, 2011, the same day he was killed. The burial took place within 24 hours of his death, as is customary in, a noted Islamic tradition. I thought I did a bit of a race, but I didn't. The military consider a number of factors when deciding not to bury his body, including political.

00:11:14:22 – 00:11:33:03
No country would accept his remains religious Islamic funeral practices, including burying the body. So they shoot him in the face. But then they want to go, well, we better do the right thing now. Surely the the, the kind of Christian thing would be not shoot him in the face like it's not God. The God ain't looking damn good.

00:11:33:05 – 00:11:51:00
Well, at least you buried him off. It's he. Yeah, I don't think he. I don't think he was going to go quietly. I don't think they're going to shut down the card and go. Is is that. Yeah. Ben has. Come on. Put your hands up. I don't think. Go quietly. Yeah, but they want him to be a martyr.

00:11:51:00 – 00:12:14:05
So he just shot him in the face anyway. Yeah. So so so part of his body is in the sea, and no one's ever found it. Well, they should do some kind of submersible and try and find it another Titan? Yeah, another Titan guy and get him another put. Another person emailed in Raoul Moat. Now that the coverage in Britain was insane, it was amazing.

00:12:14:07 – 00:12:46:07
It was. And so he mosey court there. Judy. That's the be bringing the fishing rod six piers that very good, very good. So what happened that Rama he I think he killed someone and maybe injured two people. Yeah. I think he killed it. So he injured his ex, killed her partner and injured a copper. And then he went missing for a week.

00:12:46:09 – 00:13:34:13
Then there was some kind of hostage situation where he was in his car or by his car, and there was a 6 hour or 8 hour standoff with him in the police. And during all of this, the British kind of, population is gripped by this story. Along comes Paul Gascoigne. From out of nowhere, he gets a taxi to the area of where this is going on, and he arrives with a fishing rod for cans of beer, a fishing jacket and a bucket of chicken, because apparently he knew E from when he used to work on the doors and he thought he could take him fishing because they were near a river in this hostage

00:13:34:15 – 00:13:54:12
situation, call or get him to stand down without being, what? He's looking for a bit of light exposure. I did a bit of research, and, Casa said he'd done 14 lines of cocaine before he went to go and see Mo, so that might explain why he was there with a fishing rod and a bucket of chicken.

00:13:54:12 – 00:14:14:12
So whenever I've taken cocaine in the past, I've just ended up masturbating for hours. I wouldn't be doing this. That's gone out your house. That's rule one. You don't go out. You ask me if I'd like to get go and get loads of chicken and then do that? Yeah. The last thing you bring back food. Spotify comments from that episode as well.

00:14:14:14 – 00:14:39:05
Massive thanks to the pod guys exactly what I needed. Listen to it before my operation today and completely took my mind off it. Or they probably shouldn't have been laughing as much as I did when I was on the ward. Much love whoever wrote that in. I hope the OP went well. And thank you for the comment. So we will we will cover, you know, some more it tell us what incident you would like us to cover at, lads.

00:14:39:05 – 00:15:01:23
Anon pod@gmail.com, and we will cover that in in a couple of topics for you. What about the fault, the fuel shortages of 2006? What is that? When everyone was just driving around petrol stations and there was massive Kia screwing up for hours? I didn't buy petrol. You lie like everybody. This is the thing with these moral, not moral panics.

00:15:01:23 – 00:15:27:12
Just panics. If everyone stop panicking, there wouldn't be a shortage. And like Covid, the that the, the toilet roll. Toilet roll. Did you did. Yeah. Did you little panic toilet ropa. Well, I think I don't panic toilet roll by because there is I mean, we're a family of four, three women. I buy toilet roll by, 24 packs.

00:15:27:14 – 00:15:42:18
24. But when you did a big for about, what's the point of going out and getting four, like it's literally going to be gone by the end of the day. The fours, like you get four four pack if you like. So if you want to fry up and you go to the shop and you pick a bit of bacon up because you forgot bacon, you might pick up a four pack there.

00:15:42:18 – 00:16:09:18
Just. Yeah. So we've been on reach. If there's there is no value in picking up a four pack. Generally you need to pack. But I'm asking you a question. Did you what did I panic? Boy I didn't panic buy toilet roll. But there were times but with the petrol. And it got to such a point where you couldn't get any cuz petrol stations would run out that as soon as they were filled up again, you'd think, oh fuck, I need to go and get petrol before it runs out again.

00:16:09:20 – 00:16:25:04
I'd be sitting there for hours. I've still got off a tank, didn't need to be there. There was a petrol shortage recently. I think that's the one I was. That's the one I'm referring about. But it was I don't think like in the last six, six years there was a big one beforehand, but there was a potential shortage.

00:16:25:06 – 00:16:44:21
I don't know why it's in the last and everyone's got don't panic. And he's like, why? I'm going to panic over not one more petrol wouldn't don't panic. Because if you don't panic, there's enough petrol for everybody. Just continue to do it. No, I'm going to fill up all the canisters on fucking everybody. Isn't that when the petrol prices went mad as well because of it?

00:16:44:23 – 00:17:05:04
Like supply demand? No, that. No. The petrol prices are not dependent on how much we buy, dependent on the cost of importing them. Like I was in the Covid then. Right. Right. Yeah. It would have been like Ukraine was a big issue wasn't it? Pipelines from Russia and that, for fuck's sake, they should really start. So you can get, for fuck's sake.

00:17:05:06 – 00:17:27:01
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00:17:27:06 – 00:17:52:05
And if you want to follow us on social on every single channel we are at lads anon pod and we are on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, we're on all of it, wrote all of it. We're on all of it. Now we're going to jump in to today's topic, which is going to be mental health. And as I said last week, not that I've been putting this one off.

00:17:52:11 – 00:18:10:00
I mean, I have I just didn't feel like I was in the right. We didn't have to do space for it. Yeah, come to its end, we got to talk about this. No they didn't, but we've had loads of emails in and I thought, you know what, maybe, maybe I'll, I'll, I'll put it on the table and we can, we can have a good chat about it.

00:18:10:02 – 00:18:32:18
So you've all sent in your stories and like, we're going through a lot of them. And I just want to stress before we speak about any of this, that Flav and I are not counselors, and we don't pretend to be. There's been a lot of personal, you know, that that's quite centric to who they are and what their story is and what their situation is.

00:18:32:20 – 00:19:06:18
We've been speaking that been speaking a lot about lockdown, loneliness, grief, relationships, ending substance abuse. And we can't go into the specifics of all of people's story. So we'll talk around that for this episode, because whether it's going to be something, it's just going to be all relatable anyway. So they're pretty beefy subjects and we can't cover it in our chat, but we're going to be focusing on the kind of accumulative trauma is what I've called it.

00:19:06:18 – 00:19:27:22
So it's like the build up of stuff that you have day to day that fuck you off and makes you feel shit, and then you don't really know what to do, how to cope with it and the coping mechanisms and but so we can't go into the mega deep stuff, but this stuff is all going to be relatable.

00:19:27:22 – 00:20:00:16
And anybody that emailed in with your stories, I've read every single one and I will reply to every single one. So hold tight. I just want to start this off right. I hate the term mental health and mental wellbeing. I kind of feel like it's been hijacked by corporate companies and by media and it's like downplayed now, not downplayed.

00:20:00:16 – 00:20:27:15
But it's more, what's the word I'm thinking of? It's just a bit more people come the stigma around. If you say mental health or mental wellbeing, they've got mental health issues, mental wellbeing, whatever it might be, I think. I don't know, at least. Well, it's kind of like when people say, oh, they're playing the mental health card like people used to say about what they still do.

00:20:27:20 – 00:21:11:18
Playing the race card. It's very like, I don't know that there's still a lot of stigma around mental health, mental wellbeing. I think they should kind of change it. Not have the word mental in there. For starters. Personally, and like for if we're talking about it generally between you and I, 40 year old geezers and anyone else I'd like if it's just like, I don't know, geezer worries, geezer troubles, I don't want to go down the pub or speak to a mate and go, I've got some bad mental health issues or like, I'd like, just really like just you just get it, all right?

00:21:11:20 – 00:21:37:16
Fuck you. No. Not now. I can't. But I hope. Oh, am I ever. Why don't we do, shots, a sample you got? No, no, no. My house. Yeah. I hope your memories, problems aside. So, what are you saying? That you don't like the term mental health? Yeah. I'm just. Yeah. No, no, I don't think I was a fan of it to begin with.

00:21:37:18 – 00:21:59:04
It just, Oh, you did in popularity, didn't it? Was a massive hit. So suddenly you woke up one day and I was like, mental health is massive. It's like the bills. It's just like everybody's got it all talking about it and concerned. There was a, mate of mine, Josh Connolly. He is. He's done fucking fantastic work.

00:21:59:04 – 00:22:44:16
Right. Listen, he's got his own podcast. He does content, he's written a book, and he's like a reformed football hooligan. He used to go down Swindon Town, and I've interviewed him a couple of times, and we speak every now and then. And he, he, he had a lot of he had a terrible upbringing. And there's a reason why he had mental health issues and trust issues and went off the rails and became a drug addict and started fighting at football and stuff because his upbringing was so disturbingly violent and and difficult, and his dad wasn't around and his dad died and, that had a massive impact on him and eventually impacts him.

00:22:44:16 – 00:23:07:21
But he he thinks that there's a lot of the way we approach mental health issues now. It's like we have to talk about it. But the solutions on black and white, they're not binary. But generally when you hear about it in the media, it's just like, just talk to someone that I help to to make sure you talk to some women, don't talk to each other so they don't talk about their problems.

00:23:07:21 – 00:23:28:09
Make sure you start talking because we can't fucking solve these things, right? There isn't a solution, a catchall solution to fixing depression, to fixing anxiety, to fixing mental health conditions. And so what you hear and you'll probably hear it on this podcast at some stage, make sure you talk to someone and then everyone goes about their day. I've helped.

00:23:28:11 – 00:23:50:23
I've felt that person. I've said to him, you make sure you talk to some men, don't talk about your problems. Well, I've said to him, make sure you do. What the fuck? That's not fucking help. That's not advice. And because there isn't advice we can give, there's no way of understanding the intricacies of the mental health condition that whatever that person is going through, because we can't understand them.

00:23:50:23 – 00:24:19:04
We don't live in their brain. So it's often it's like it's a bit of a cop out. Well at least I told him to talk to someone not did my bit. You didn't. You did. Fuck all and don't do anything if you can't write. It's not on you to fix everybody's mental health problems either. What I've found in my experiences with people who have severe mental health issues, or that I've had close contact with, is generally listening, is what I've it's listened to go.

00:24:19:08 – 00:24:41:23
That sounds shit, man. I'm really sorry you're going through this. What have you done? What are you doing? What are you moving in what direction? To to help solve it. And getting them to people that actually know what they're fucking doing? That's the trick. A difficult I don't. Yeah, I can feel it's fine to feel lost if someone's talking to you and saying, I've got this problem, I feel anxious.

00:24:42:00 – 00:25:04:05
It's fine not knowing what to say because you're not trained to say the right thing. So there's a lot of shit out there with mental health, in my opinion, that isn't helpful. And these kind of lip, so it pays lip service to it. Yeah. I mean, I'm now going to have to cross off the, the last bullet point of talk to someone who's not only joking, but I'm sure it's on there, Rick.

00:25:04:05 – 00:25:31:22
I'm sure. Exactly. Yeah, 100%. It's hundred percent. That's that's all that because it's impossible to deal with these. It's impossible to completely understand how to deal with these situations. And so you don't know what to say. So therefore you're going to say talk to someone who what? Who's the right person? Your friends, your family, the they know. It's like he says, it's so it's so like it's great advice to talk to someone, but it's not enough.

00:25:31:24 – 00:26:08:12
It's not enough. Yeah. Well, well I'll go into the talking bit, towards the end. What I, what I should do is I thought I would tell tell the listeners about a when my mental health, my geezer worries were, at worst breaking point and how I kind of navigate that because it was it was the first time in my life that I had been rocked to my core, and I didn't know what to do.

00:26:08:12 – 00:26:37:09
So this all happened around, 2020, I think it was around the BLM stuff. So George Floyd had been, murdered. And there was a lot of stuff on in the media, the radio and stuff like that. And my kids were young at that point, and we were kind of, you know, you couldn't move for that news to be on.

00:26:37:11 – 00:27:05:07
And during that news, my kids had obviously heard what happened and the movement and the riots and everything like that. And she turned to me and said, dad, we're brown. Does that mean we're going to die, too? And I don't think I've ever been so crushed hearing anything in all my fucking life. And it like, I can feel my, my, my, my throat going, but normally I would have cried when I've said that.

00:27:05:07 – 00:27:29:01
So I've made progress. But, I've never felt so bad in my entire life because I thought as an adult that we as a race would have gotten past any racial tensions or anything like that, but it's, you know, it works in cycles. I know that different, different things are used, and I'm not going to go down that route now.

00:27:29:03 – 00:27:53:01
But I didn't know what to say and what to do. And I've explained on this podcast many a time that throughout my life I have self-medicated from the ages of 18 to 38, smoking weed because I didn't know how to regulate my emotions or anything like that. So I used to just smoke weed and get wrecked at the weekends, whatever it may be.

00:27:53:03 – 00:28:30:02
So there was accumulated, accumulative traumas that have been like minor traumas that happened in my life that had got to such a point that it was just being kept under surface level by smoking weed. And then when my daughter said that to me around the Black Lives Matter movement and what was happening, it was kind of like it felt like someone pulling me out of the long grass to really face the, the, the microaggressions and traumas that I've had previously about my own race and color and having to speak to my daughter about it.

00:28:30:04 – 00:29:00:07
And that was the first part that really fucking rocked me. And then a year later, I was made, redundant from my from a job, from a company that I'd been in for ten years. And it wasn't I kind of, run of the mill. I've been made redundant. People get made redundant is a horrible thing. But at the time there was a company reorg and two people, so myself and a colleague had to apply for the same role.

00:29:00:09 – 00:29:27:03
And my colleague got the role. So that meant I was made redundant. Now normally that would be fine because other people get other, you know, get the jobs. But at that time I had managed this person for three and a half years. I'd been in the role for four and a half years, and they had been in the role for one year, and they got the job over me, and I couldn't get my head around.

00:29:27:05 – 00:29:47:11
The justification of it was it was supposed to be judged on experience, and they got the rule over me, and it was like I just couldn't get my head around it. I was humiliated, I was embarrassed, I, you know, I applied for my own job that I've been doing for four and a half years, and I didn't get it.

00:29:47:13 – 00:30:13:09
My whole team had seen it. My whole family knew it by my friends, knew about it, and it was just compounding misery on misery and, and I was very bitter about it. And, you know, when they say so. So I'd had, like, the micro traumas that I'd managed with weight and the BLM stuff and then the redundancy stuff, and then it all came to a massive fucking head.

00:30:13:11 – 00:30:37:00
And you know, when they say that if you when you're drowning and you fall into the sea, you don't know what weighs up on what weighs down. You swim, but you don't you don't know which way to surface. I genuinely felt like that I was getting migraines that were lasting for three days, and I was I was my panic attacks had just gone off the scale.

00:30:37:02 – 00:30:57:12
It was during Covid as well. So I was just on my own. I was just left to sit of my own thoughts, and I was going through a real bad time of it, and I was just trying any remedy or anything to get myself out. And I remember buying some, blackcurrant CBD oil and, you know, one drop in your tongue and it will bring you down and stuff.

00:30:57:18 – 00:31:22:01
I was fucking squirting pipettes of this shit in my mouth like mouse with in it like a mouthwash, just to try and make myself feel normal. And I just, I couldn't like, I was paralyzed, I was literally paralyzed. And I remember and now I look back on this after a couple of years and I remember speaking to, a good mate of mine.

00:31:22:03 – 00:31:42:02
His name is Flav, and he was saying about what happened to me, my redundancy. It's it's nothing personal, Ricky. It's not you. They've not said to you. It's you're a bad person. You're shitty. Your job. It was just what was best for the business. You need to take the personal bit out of it. And I couldn't see that it.

00:31:42:03 – 00:32:06:04
I was like, so het up and bitter that someone had been picked over me and stuff like that. And man, it just, it really just tore me up inside. And now when I look back and you take the emotion out of it, business wise, probably this person would have stayed at the company longer than me. And they're a better shot than me because in the job, four and a half years.

00:32:06:04 – 00:32:25:02
Yeah. Less all those different things. Younger. Well, you know, whatever it might have been. But at that time I couldn't see it. And I guess what my point is, is that whatever you're going through and how bad you're feeling and the grief that you're feeling and the trauma that you're holding on to, that there are brighter days.

00:32:25:02 – 00:32:52:12
Now, how I kind of it's a lot of counseling that they need to sort through. Counseling didn't do exactly that. Me so how I try to navigate that was, again, I was like a fevered man of spraying CBD oil in my mouth, fuckin running, going through walks for three hours, you know. Do you have this eating clean, you know, all this stuff that you that that you told and I just couldn't get a grip on, reality.

00:32:52:12 – 00:33:20:10
And my mum said, Rick, now is the time you should seek a counselor. You should reach out. Here's a number. I know this is really good. They're very well respected. Go and see them and see how you get on. And I'm like, fucking. Yeah, great talking about it. Is it really going to get me anywhere? And you know, when people say, oh, because I was always of that mantra of crying like, what's that going to do?

00:33:20:10 – 00:33:42:17
It's not going to get you anywhere. It's not going to do anything, talking about it. It's not going to get me anywhere. I need to do something for myself. And I was. So I guess I was just really hard and harsh on myself. But, Yeah, you're right. I went to counseling. I had counseling for a year and a half, and although, it's not one of those things where I, I was like, all right, I've been counseling.

00:33:42:19 – 00:34:20:01
I'm healed. I'm not. I'm normal again. I don't feel anything. It's going to take years for me to get to a place where I want to be. But I've made so much progression and it's it's understanding, like, because I didn't understand that when I was smoking weed and I was masking my emotions and stuff, that these, these kind of micro traumas that had been accumulated throughout my life, that I always thought that trauma was something severe, like someone had, sexual assault, someone that you'd witnessed a murder loaded term.

00:34:20:01 – 00:35:04:09
Trauma, isn't it? It's like you think it's severe big. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, that's exactly it. And and I, that's what I, that's what I perceived of what actual trauma was, a huge lifetime event and not micro things that lead up and build up to this one thing. And this then that one thing broke me, and so I went to counseling, had a year and a half of counseling, and it's just really helped me understand what it was that I felt within the kind of the job situation with the bit of explaining to my daughter during the BLM stuff about race and color and, and how I was brought up and

00:35:04:09 – 00:35:32:13
that I kind of wasn't taught to face that stuff head on. And I just buried my head in the sand and buried my emotions. There's a there's a lot of stuff that I kind of I you nobody is taught. There's thousands and millions of us out there, and we all face these, things that will challenge us. But we're never really taught on how to, regulate our emotions or how to deal with these things.

00:35:32:13 – 00:36:08:03
And you just bury them, and you and you kind of get on with it through either drink Coke, weed, women, whatever it might be. But, counseling it it really did. It really did help me. And it kind of got me out of, of a place where I was. And I'm making strides every single day. And I'm not not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I know what I need to do to to keep, practicing, you know, that muscle memory of of challenging myself and to understand what it is that makes me take.

00:36:08:03 – 00:36:34:03
And I know that, so the type of counseling I had was, it was person centered therapy. I don't know, you've had something, similar or a little bit different human giving slaps? Yeah. So that was, it's more like hypnotherapy, human giving. So I think I, it's helped me in a lot of ways, and it's helped people that have had very difficult situations, made their lives better.

00:36:34:08 – 00:36:59:04
Now, obviously it works well with some people. Some people it won't work well in counseling. Isn't there isn't this universal way of, finding, you know, because this person is a counselor, they can definitely help me. Sometimes it's a process of getting to a point where you need to find the right thing for you, because there's different ways it didn't for everything, but there's absolutely something out there that can help you.

00:36:59:04 – 00:37:25:05
You just need to find it and go through the process in the same way that, you know, if you're buying a car, you're not just going to get into and drive away the first one. You see, you you look into it, right? You test drive, you, you research online, figure out what, what fits for you, and sometimes you'll have to you'll have a counselor and you think this isn't working, it's not quite right, or you haven't given it enough time.

00:37:25:05 – 00:37:42:10
And it was right. So my point is, is that there's lots of different things out there, and there's something for you. If you're listening to this and you feel like I need to get something sorted, then, then you can go about it. Well, I'll, I'll explain what human givens is, but what how did you how did you access your cancer?

00:37:42:12 – 00:37:59:18
So it was just basically, in GP King's. You up for your GP? No, no, no, it was, it was private. So you paid for it, so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's another thing is people think I don't want to pay for it. I don't want to pay for it. Like they won't invest in getting better.

00:37:59:20 – 00:38:22:06
They'll invest in going out or a weekend, you know, doing £150 on a Friday night, £200 on a Saturday night, whatever it might be. Yeah, but it's the there's a mad reluctance to invest in health. Yeah. You're totally, totally right. I bet you thought about it on the head. But I don't want to pay for this. Well, the thing is, for this, what it is, is it?

00:38:22:08 – 00:38:44:24
I was in such a state that my mum was like, I will start paying and just to get me there. And then we did, a kind of one week on, one week off and took it from there really. And then afterwards it was I, I need this I'd like and I feel like it's, it's so like, it's just that that I need it.

00:38:44:24 – 00:39:18:04
And the money was, was well worth it. And how much was it? I can't really remember. I think it might have been 40 pounds per session. Was now. Well, yeah, an hour for an hour. Session for week. When I think it was and that was an hour each week. And I did that for a year and a half, I think it was, I think it's liquid, but yeah, it's again, like you said, like that money, like I'd always say to myself, but I could that £40 can go on my shopping for my family.

00:39:18:06 – 00:39:35:19
That £40 could. Do you know what? It's going to be no good for your family or for your car or for your fucking insurance. If your head is in the gutter and you are feeling the way that you are, it's just going to make everything worked. So you really should pay attention to yourself and look after yourself and not flabby saying, right?

00:39:35:19 – 00:40:01:09
There's so many different types of therapy. There's like, meta cognitive therapy, this CBT, like I mentioned, person centered, like I've mentioned human giving, giving, mentorships, there's loads of different things. And what sometimes I know someone that I spoke to them and they went to see therapist. Fucking hated it. Absolutely hate you. They're not doing that again.

00:40:01:09 – 00:40:21:06
It was sheer. And then a year and a half later, I kind of said, you should go back. And they're like, now it's rubbish. And I was like, the first person that you see as a therapist might not be the one. You might not click, you might not feel safe. They the how they're asking you questions might not go with what you see, you know, find someone else, try something new.

00:40:21:06 – 00:40:42:03
And they, they said alright, fine. And they went and saw another therapist. They hit it off immediately. They were saying the difference between the two was night and day, and they continue to go to see that therapist and they're feeling a lot better about themselves. A lot of the, you know, the, the, the child traumas that they suffered, they're working their way through them.

00:40:42:03 – 00:41:14:09
But again, it's it's a different things that you can do. And but reading up on the different types of things that you can do and like you were saying about therapy or, or talking to people, it might not be your thing. There's a, there's a, there's a group actually in Milton Keynes called The Man Cave. And it's where a group of men that meet weekly and it's kind of like, an AA type thing, but you can share if you want or don't.

00:41:14:11 – 00:41:34:05
And it's where people talk about the mental health of their struggles or what they're going through, and just knowing that you could there's a support group out there. It could be in your local area that where you can attend, where you can take part. You can just hang up every where. You can just listen to how everyone else is dealing with other things that could be really helpful.

00:41:34:07 – 00:42:02:07
Talking to family. If there's a trusted family member, do you know what else I found really helpful during this period? And, I've actually got the list on my phone. I decided to not in the traditional sense journal as in get a diary and I fountain pen and sit at my Victorian desk and start writing notes. I just wrote notes down and dates on my phone, so if I pick up my phone now, I have I have dates going back for three years.

00:42:02:09 – 00:42:23:07
So is when I started going through my what I called my wellbeing books. When I'd walk for one hour a day where I normally in a conversation that I'd have, I would shuck it and I would go into my show and I wouldn't challenge that person. And that would all of those accumulative things would make me feel like shit.

00:42:23:07 – 00:42:42:15
And this is the reason how I got into such a bad state of mental health, and that I would write down the days that I challenged someone, someone pushed in front of me in a queue. And normally I'd let that slide and I'd be thinking about it all day. Why didn't I say something that I did it, and this one time I actually said, sorry, mate, there's actually a queue here.

00:42:42:15 – 00:43:06:16
And he was. Oh, sorry, I didn't realize. Sorry, mate. Sorry. Really apologetic. And it wasn't this confrontation that I thought it was going to be, so I wrote that down. I was like, mate, that's even though it's so minor to someone that's listening to this. For me, that was progress. And I can look back over these three years and see the progress that I've made and the different challenges that I've overcome that I know that I'm moving in the right direction now.

00:43:06:16 – 00:43:31:03
You're cutting the line. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I exactly I don't give a shit about anyone. Oh, this is my fucking line. And, I feel like I've been talking for ages, but, just to kind of round this off of the different things that it's recommended, and you can find your own thing that that, you know, fits you like a glove.

00:43:31:05 – 00:43:52:03
Going to the gym, exercises like it really is. I, a person that fucking hates exercise. I've tried the gym. I fucking hate it. I'm not going to go there be slinging weights about. I'm not going to go on a treadmill. I do it for three weeks and think, this is shit, I don't want to do this. It was only this morning.

00:43:52:03 – 00:44:12:07
This morning I was off out the door at 730, walking my daughters to the bus stop for school, and it's a 12 minute walk. But it was misty, the cool air on my skin just being outside the sun like even though it's misty. The sun was out. It just made me feel so much better. Like I'd accomplished something.

00:44:12:07 – 00:44:34:20
Just get outside. And being one with nature, I just felt a lot better about myself. So it doesn't need to be anything proper strenuous. Again, like one of the things I'm massively guilty for good night's sleep and that is me going to bed at half 12 every morning and then getting up at half six every day. Still doing that, still doing that.

00:44:34:20 – 00:44:57:14
My still doing it. And I should really try and break that cycle. It would do me the world. If it's a single night during the week where I'm still up at 12 for like I'm in bed. I was in bed by quarter ten last night. Oh my God, that's a dream. Yeah, I on on when was it, when did I go to on Thursday first.

00:44:57:18 – 00:45:26:10
What is it today? Wednesday, Wednesday. Wednesday. I got into bed, 8:30. No fucking way. Yeah, yeah. I mean, generally, I mean, I stayed awake long enough to make sure the kids at the stuff turned off. Study. Going to what to say, kids. Chloe. She's great. She just gets up, she she she goes, which puts us off the bed, and she gets up and she's always in the car, and time will never end.

00:45:26:12 – 00:45:44:01
And told to get off the computer. Turn the fucking thing off. I get up in the morning, but he's fine. He takes us out to bed, but he. You don't even it. He's been like this for about three years. Like it's incredible. She just. She sits, she sends her alarm and gets up in the morning. I don't we don't have to even think about.

00:45:44:01 – 00:46:02:07
Oh it's amazing. All we do is make sure she's got food, but she's she sorts itself out. She's very, independent but as well needs to be, you know, you need these, boy. I mean, not 14. I've been exactly the same. So I'm not like, I'm mad at him. It just can't get frustrating. Anyway, my point is, we state we were in bed by 830.

00:46:02:09 – 00:46:23:11
And we turned our phones off, or put the books down at ten. Yeah, for, no, two went to sleep. 10 in 10 years in a relationship. No no no no. The and then, and then I went to bed and I woke up at seven and I slept through, and I didn't wake up. God.

00:46:23:14 – 00:46:44:23
And because I hadn't had a drink, I didn't really. I didn't need to get up in the middle of the night to have a piss. And you know what? I felt fucking great. God, I felt as good as I could possibly feel. As a 43 year old man who needs to go down the gym a bit, I, I just you feel a love, you feel well-rested.

00:46:45:00 – 00:47:04:06
What you're doing by not going to bed early is your denying the your future self of feeling good. That's what you do. Like. If you're not, you get in six hours of sleep. You might just get back into coke. You must get back into backing down pills, drinking the knowing your future self, a feeling good God man. Not here.

00:47:04:08 – 00:47:36:13
That here. Fuck that that is. I'm just glad to say in counseling. Oh I mean, I, I'm loving it. I'm bloody loving it. You are. You're taking away from your, your future experiences by like it's a lot a lot in terms of substance abuse and alcohol use. Obviously I've been working to reduce my alcohol intake for a long time and through that process that was comes up a lot is like the minute you start drinking, you're reducing your abilities to enjoy the next day.

00:47:36:15 – 00:47:55:06
And you know, when you're having a beer and it feels good for the first hour or two and then it goes down and you can't reach that high again, it just your body needs to rest. And alcohol is terrible for your the rhythm of sleep. Anyway. I think yeah. Going just putting is is like a good night's sleep will do you unders.

00:47:55:08 – 00:48:11:20
Yeah. It doesn't fix depression. It doesn't cure anxiety. But it gives you the best place to be in a situation to deal with those things. A good night's sleep. And if you if you know, if you're struggling to sleep, fall asleep. That's a big thing. People. Anxiety and depression. I don't always find it difficult to go to bed.

00:48:11:22 – 00:48:29:07
There's like lots of stuff that can help you fall to sleep with. Lots of, you know, like I have comes, comes sleeping tablets. They're not that. Oh yeah. Yeah they're not. It's like herbal. They're not like yeah. It's not something you get from. You have to take four of them. I don't know what. I just don't put four worth in one tablet.

00:48:29:12 – 00:48:48:18
Yeah I don't understand it. Oh we to take for these little tablets. They do. They taste like Schitt's Creek. Like, you know, the smell of when you've had a bad pool of diarrhea. Yeah. That's why I tell you what, man, but I, I take them with. They taste like that I really. Yeah. Like I can make them taste of anything, surely.

00:48:48:18 – 00:49:09:21
Why do they have to taste like that? Not only do you have the forum, it's like that fucking sadistic pigs, you know, three, four of them, but it tastes like shit. And they help you sleep anyway. Good night. Sleep? Yeah. I mean, I was literally just saying to you before the pod started that I went out last Friday and.

00:49:09:23 – 00:49:29:00
Oh, man, just. I went out last Friday a little bit hangover in the morning. Managed to kind of, you know, just get on with my day. But the knock on effect of the tiredness and then eating junk food and then feeling like shit and then catching up on sleep and it's just, mate, it's just horrible. I just got to a point where I just.

00:49:29:02 – 00:49:55:20
They were. It's just so bad for you. Yeah, well, you just you going out drinking, right? And then most night. But what my life used to be would be you'd go out on a Friday in London. That Friday night would ruin your weekend every weekend. And I did it for four years where I would go out on a Friday night, pick some gear up, have a few beers, stay up all night, and then I'm fucked for Saturday.

00:49:55:22 – 00:50:17:23
Yeah. And what am I doing? I'm sitting on the sofa, right? I'm watching television. Film on Netflix. I have to cook, I feel terrible. Let me order a Domino's big one stuffed crust stock on that. You know what I'm saying? Stuffed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It says fuck you in there. But hopefully the payment will go through. So you get my stuff crossed.

00:50:18:00 – 00:50:40:00
And then Sunday around 4:00 is starting to feel a little bit normal and works the next morning. That sort of process that. What was the cycle cycle that you play out every weekend? You might do it once in a week. That's what I would do on a Wednesday. Felt great. By Wednesday. Get back here in. Stay up all night.

00:50:40:02 – 00:50:58:23
Go to work without sleep. It was fucking terrible it. But I say that, Rick. It didn't feel terrible then. It didn't. To me it was like this is normal. Loads of people are doing this. This is I'm just long as I don't tell anyone this might as well not be, thing. And I had a quite good constitution of getting on with it.

00:50:58:23 – 00:51:19:12
Like I could go, I could go out all night and function at work the next day. Yeah, that'd annoy me today. Yeah. Anyway, the point is, is that has a lasting effect on you before, I. I haven't got much else to say, but I just wanted to say this. Yeah, about human givens, the human Givens Institute, because they feel that they've identified pillars that you need as a human being.

00:51:19:14 – 00:51:41:00
Yeah. You feel to to feel as close to contentment as a human being can. Not to be happy, but to be content right to different things. So all of us need these things, these nine pillars, to feel like you can function in a in a way that means that you're not unhappy in any way. So you need security.

00:51:41:00 – 00:52:02:17
It's a safe territory and an environment which allows you to fully develop. And this is kind of what you need to give to your children, albeit you should be providing these things for your children attention. So it's a form of nutrition to give attention and to receive attention. We all need these as human beings, a sense of autonomy and control and having for via volition to make responsible choices.

00:52:02:17 – 00:52:37:10
So you're able to make your own choices. You're in control, emotional intimacy to know that at least one other person accepts us totally for who we are, warts and all. To have people in your life, to accept all of your failings and understand that and love you anyway. Yeah, that is a basic need for a human being feeling part of a wider community belonging to something outside of your house, outside of, what is normal and, you know, so it might be football, it might be the podcast, it might be a bridge, a bridge group or.

00:52:37:14 – 00:52:59:19
Yeah, you know, the dance group going down the pub every now and then, go into your local pub, be known outside your family circle. Privacy, the opportunity to reflect and consider. They experience a sense of status within social groups so you feel like you belong. You know, so your group and your elevated. Then you're respected by your friends sense of competence and achievement.

00:52:59:19 – 00:53:26:08
So being be able to do things and achieve and complete things. And the final one is meaning and purpose, which come from being stretched in what we do and think. So how do we develop other people around you to assist that development? Do they push you? If you are missing any one of these things in your life, then you are susceptible to, a mental health condition.

00:53:26:10 – 00:53:46:24
These are basic needs that not everybody has, and striving to get those is, is what will make you content. Don't mean using a job you hated. You hated it. Yeah. And then they said you're not right for us. So not only did you hate this job, they're saying you're not good enough for it as well, because we can give it to someone else, whatever it might been.

00:53:47:01 – 00:54:13:23
Yeah, you're going to take that really bad. And if thoroughly affects one of these nine pillars. Yeah. It's your your sense of self-worth, your ability, your meaning and purpose and your sense of competence and achievement. All of those things. Right now, what you do is podcast for a living. Yeah. So that pillars that were affected by that job, you're now you've now mended by doing what you're doing right now, which is something you're building a community.

00:54:13:23 – 00:54:34:24
The contacts and validation you get from people that listen to the podcast and email in and say, what a great podcast. Basic human need. You've shifted from something that was making you unhappy and made you to the point where you were falling apart to some degree because they said they don't want you anymore. You've shifted and used that as an opportunity.

00:54:35:01 – 00:54:57:07
Unbeknownst to yourself at the time, to where you are now. So when this shit happens, it's an opportunity, not something to to break you. It's an opportunity. It's like you hate the fucking job. You hated walking into that office every Monday. You could go on holiday and to every single time you'd have a holiday the night before the message the group and kill myself.

00:54:57:09 – 00:55:27:00
I would rather run in front of a truck to go back into the office. And when they said, gave you an opportunity to leave all that behind, it made you depressed. That's crazy. Yeah, we talked about that at Time Break is this is an opportunity to do something. So yeah, man those those if people want to read more into those pillars and understand what human givens is and what human givens is a strange name, but human givens, these are the these are the given pillars that you need as a human being.

00:55:27:00 – 00:55:51:22
That's what that name comes from. I will put them. I will put them in the show notes. So, afterwards, send me the link and I'll, stick it in the episode notes. To to round this off, we do have a voice note that someone has sent in and they have a delightful voice, and flab is going to play it up for us.

00:55:51:24 – 00:56:12:00
Hey, guys. Kind of touching on to two podcast episodes here. Obviously the mental health one and then the masculinity part as well. You know, if you're struggling, you know, the biggest thing to do is go and talk to somebody. You know, I recently lost my father and that was a big thing with with me that has helped me.

00:56:12:00 – 00:56:39:10
And even if you're not looking for somebody to diagnose, you know, if you have anxiety, if you have depression, if you, you know, if you have, you know, bipolar disorder or whatever, you know, just just go and talk to somebody, you know, you're not always seeking a medical diagnosis and you don't want medicated. But, you know, really helped me with my dad's passing and everything like that, just to go and talk to somebody that's kind of an impartial party.

00:56:39:10 – 00:57:01:14
And, they don't have any invested interest in what's going on. They don't know you on a personal level. They don't know your situation until you tell them. And, you know, sometimes that just helps in itself. And it's not necessarily that you want to go and be diagnosed and be put on a medication. You know, that's not always what they're there for.

00:57:01:16 – 00:57:21:12
It just really helps. Even if it's just a mate, you know, if your mates aren't there to listen to you whenever you're having a hard time, are they really your mates? You know, that's that's pretty much what I got for you guys. And, keep up the great, great episodes. Yeah, obviously this is going to directly sort of rankles with what I've said.

00:57:21:16 – 00:57:49:03
Start at the point that just just go and talk to somebody. Right. But what he's saying, what my point with that is that when if someone comes to you for advice and says, just talk to somebody thinking that's your job done in helping that person, that isn't, you need to find the right person, but the right skillset and to be fair, you know, like you said, like we've spoken a lot, Rick, when you've gone through this stuff and clearly it had some positive impacts.

00:57:49:05 – 00:58:14:00
But, it's there are people with the right skill set in order to help you. And it isn't it isn't enough just to say, talk to someone. You need to find the people. The right, the right, training and knowing how to respond to what you're asking of them. And once you get that person, honestly, the shift in, in what you can do is,

00:58:14:02 – 00:58:34:14
And we know that he lost his father, right? So there's the grief counseling, there's an an abundance, and there's tons of amazing stuff out there that we that can that can help you. But yeah, I mean, talking is key, but it's not enough just to say, go and talk to someone. You need the things you need to roadmap it with them.

00:58:34:14 – 00:58:55:01
Find find the right process because a lot of people think that they would because of that, you know, men don't talk type thing. Remember it was a massive campaign. Men don't talk. Yeah. Campaign against Living Miserably. It meant that people felt that all you had to do was talk to someone, and then you fixed, and then you do that and you're like, why am I not fixed?

00:58:55:03 – 00:59:23:18
Because he's simple. You have to go through that process. You have to find the right person. And anyway, that's what. Yeah. And again, just to reiterate what, I got the gist of it, I was like, you know, talk to someone like talking to Barry down the pop who takes the piss out of everyone probably isn't the best person to open up to, you know, so it's finding that person, or that you, you know, you have a bit of a rapport with or a bit of a relationship and that, you know, they're going to listen and they might steer in the right direction.

00:59:23:18 – 00:59:42:24
I'll give you a telephone number or whatever it is. So, now I know I, I back up what you're saying, do you know what the topic is for next week? Be, you know, you you're not going to be stuck. You're not going to stuff until we do a big event. I just want to do these characters on TikTok.

00:59:43:03 – 01:00:12:24
I find them fascinating. Anyway, we're going to be doing phobias. So if you have any phobias, any strange phobias, any normal phobias, do you know someone with a crazy phobia? Then please email us. Yeah. Like that, but bananas. Well, I, I worked with someone who had a phobia of small house, like cluster of small house.

01:00:12:24 – 01:00:32:07
I don't, I have that school trip up a phobia. I have that. Are you kidding me? No. What did I say? About 40% of people have this. What's he like? You don't like looking at crumpets and stuff? Not really. No. So. So I just by saying that word, I just said that with a lot of people listening to this podcast.

01:00:32:09 – 01:00:53:13
Really? Yeah. It's common. Rick. It's really. I'm much better at it now than I used to be. Used to make me physically sick. I would be sick if I'd say, oh my God. My, my missus has one of, stickers, sticky labels, you know, like little stickers on fruit and stuff like that. Really? Yeah. It's fucking mental.

01:00:53:13 – 01:01:10:15
If anyone's. We can talk about it at length next. Next week is obviously don't give up too much now. But the if anyone knows where phobias come from, I have some sort of definition that would be that would be good. There might be people that are in the field that understand it a lot better. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like just give us a voice note.

01:01:10:15 – 01:01:23:16
Let us know where phobias come from and why specifically the one I mentioned. And I won't say it again. They'll trigger people. Yeah. Why do so many people have that adverse reaction to housing?

01:01:23:18 – 01:01:41:14
Even now it just went, oh God, how have we never talking about it. Spoken about these I don't know I to see there's something in the back of my mind that is that you remember me I said yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah. It's just, just in a way. So yeah if we go over it, I've got it doesn't impact me anywhere near like it did.

01:01:41:14 – 01:02:01:05
And you know I did it. This is a form of therapy. Taking it back to this week. Exposure therapy is difficult, but it does work. What have you done? The. Well I just I wouldn't recoil. I wouldn't force myself to look away. When I saw it. Oh, wow. Yeah. If anyone's curious, go on Reddit. This whole subreddit is full of it.

01:02:01:07 – 01:02:34:02
Full of the stuff that makes people light. So just as a I feel really sick now and talking about this story generally, but the if you if you what people are fascinated with but generally it's generally quite closely linked to what scares them. Yeah. So the reason why we love sharks really is because they're fucking terrifying. The reason why the open ocean is in fascinating is because it's fucking terrifying.

01:02:34:04 – 01:02:56:13
I don't think of anything worse than being the middle of the Atlantic Ocean alone. That's possible. Yeah. So why? You know, you can't not be anything but drawn to it in some weird way. Remember that next week? Exactly. Email us lots and on pod at gmail.com. And we there's no dilemmas this week. So that's good everyone. Everyone's fine.

01:02:56:13 – 01:03:29:11
Everyone's fine. Good. So we're just going to go to something only you know. Wow. Something you know. This is called Glory Awaits in the same vein as the gentleman visiting a glory hole from a few weeks back. That I wasn't naive, thinking this would be a woman. I knew it'd be a guy. Anyway, I get to the person's house, and the set up is a chair with a curtain in front of it.

01:03:29:13 – 01:03:55:05
I'd been instructed prior to come in, drop my boxes, sit on the chair and lift the curtain up so my cock is on the other side. The sucking starts immediately and it feels good. But then the ball leaking started and I could feel stubble against my thigh. It was at this point I started to think of it as just, you know, just just a mate sucking enough of me off.

01:03:55:09 – 01:04:20:23
Yeah. So I want to. I had AirPods in and porn going on my phone, so I tried my best to ignore the fact it was a bloke and instead try to imagine the cock in the porn was mine. Slower. Unfortunately, I couldn't fully focus on. I was taking ages. The mouth on the other end of the cock was starting to get lazy, and I could feel the occasional scratch of teeth.

01:04:21:00 – 01:04:46:07
I didn't want to say anything though, as he was the one providing me a free service. After, After half an hour, I eventually come. He cleans up and then he says, there you go, mate. Why the fuck would you say it? Up to the point it could have been a bearded lady. Nice. Anyway, I get home, strip off to take a bite.

01:04:46:09 – 01:05:07:12
When I notice my bellend is red raw, I'm sure if it was the teeth, I wasn't sure if it was the teeth or the oh, he'd like to literally suck the skin off, but it was painful. Some antiseptic cream was applied for a few days and the redness slowly went away. Never again. And that is something I know, I know.

01:05:07:14 – 01:05:33:07
So so when I when we came up with this, that's exactly what I wanted. Yeah, it was just mental stuff. You've done that no one knows about. But I've got so many questions. Like, you knew it was a bloke. So are you gay? Which is fine. I'm just curious, like. Yeah, because it's interesting. If you're straight and you've gone, you've gone to meet the the bloke.

01:05:33:09 – 01:05:51:21
Yeah. It's like that place you went to the Holiday Inn and turned up and is like a 60 year old man there, and he's, don't be rude, but. I literally listen back to that part the other day and I fucking I was absolutely pissing myself. I believe I had another like, something I, you know, to a similar vein.

01:05:51:21 – 01:06:12:18
So there's a lot of them. Well, glory hole action going on. I don't, I don't, I don't know where these things I've never been exposed to. So we were always I was going to say to you, is this an American thing? Oh, I don't know. Up there in England. I mean, I guess there was a reply to these people when they message in yeah, I do.

01:06:12:24 – 01:06:34:05
What did you always do? Reply to that. Well, I mean to say, nice one for setting an event at the circle of trust. But you know, all the kind of thanks for sending it in and stuff, but I threw it out. Some of them do, some of them don't. Some of them, I mean, if you've emailed in, I know a lot of you put at the end, please keep this anonymous.

01:06:34:05 – 01:06:54:02
This is lads anonymous. You know, you will never have to worry about. You will never, ever have to worry about anything like that. And then, I've got a couple of mates that have emailed in that they've told me they've emailed in, but they've used, they've made up email addresses and we've read some of their stuff out. And I don't know what it was that I've read out, but all of them are mental.

01:06:54:02 – 01:07:14:22
All I need to know is a mental. So I thought, what you need if you guys got any suspicions, oh no, I've got none. I only know one, because he didn't care about his name being on this email. And it was early days, but there was there's one he's sent in and that we've read out, and I have no idea.

01:07:14:22 – 01:07:41:23
And he won't tell me. Hey, pink, people get up to, I know you're listening to this. Why don't you fucking tell me you prick? Yeah, you are listening to this. Which one is it? Yeah. All right. And boy. All right, so next week we have phobias. Send us an email at lads. Anon pod at gmail.com and we will see you next Monday.

01:07:42:00 – 01:08:07:04
Are the night hazy lot? Band of brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:00:00:00 – 00:00:26:04
Rick. I want to see Transformers one. But I'm a grown man. It's a cartoon. Feel like I don't belong there in that cinema. Yeah, I know, exactly the same as you don't want people to think I'm not. Yeah, but I really, really want to watch Transformers one. I was we had radio one on that. Yeah. And some guy was saying that he wasn't into Transformers.

00:00:26:04 – 00:00:43:17
The first time, and he's not really going to get moved by an animated film. He watched it and he said, you have to watch. It is brilliant. And I was on Fox. Like, if it was shit, it would be a problem within what I know. What am I going to do? You know how it was exactly the same thing I said to my daughter in the advert came on the TV.

00:00:43:17 – 00:01:03:06
The other day and I went, we come along with daddy to come and watch Transformers with me and she started cracking up. She went, oh God, you you're being serious? No. And also fucking the amount of times I've gone to the cinema to watch shit with you, man. You can come with me. Yeah, I had to go. I had to sit through fucking fast.

00:01:03:08 – 00:01:20:20
Far too fast. Two furious. That was, you know, that was hard work. That was hard work is one of them ones you're looking at clock. And how long can they stretch this out? It's like three hours long. The thing is, with two fast, two furious, right. You're marquee audience. You don't need to entertain them for three hours through 90 minutes.

00:01:20:22 – 00:01:39:01
The plot made no sense. Anyway. There's one bit where they landed. The car flew off a mountain into a plane, so no one needs. It's not like you need to build anything. It's sort of realistic. It's fucking. And I was sitting there for three hours. I wanted to kill myself. No one's watching it for the cinematography with the kind of story arc of engines and guns.

00:01:39:01 – 00:02:02:00
That's all. It all. And run and driving fast. People that. So it might be some people that listen to this don't know that me and Ricky have a special affinity to Transformers the Movie, which was the 1986 six very good 1986 film, which, both of us watched independently and didn't realize until we met each other.

00:02:02:00 – 00:02:19:20
Obviously, after that, we realized that we both were infatuated with this film, and this feels like Transformers one feels like a bit of a an homage to that. But it's a different story. Yeah. And I just I really want to see it. I might have to wait till it comes home because it was going well. I can't believe you're not just doing it.

00:02:19:22 – 00:02:39:22
You want to go and watch it, so just watch it. I do want to watch it, but I want to concentrate on it and not thinking. They think I'm I want to touch kids. I don't I can't enjoy it if people think that I've made I've come up with my own plan and I think I'm going to watch it at the cinema because I have to, but I'm going to go at like the earliest time.

00:02:39:22 – 00:02:54:04
And I you know, 945 and when no one's around, they're school. Like kids will be around up there with some sick kid playing sick kids go goes on, watch it. And then just you and him in the cinema. I don't so that sounds even worse. It is. It can't be any worse. It's exactly what you think it is.

00:02:54:04 – 00:03:12:21
It's terrible. You can't be in there alone, with children, with you cannot. They will go. There is a strange little brown man in there, and we don't trust him. Then they come up to you, Rick, and then? Then you go and you go. I'm not doing anything. I'm just watching Transformers one. I like Transformers, I grew up with Transformers.

00:03:12:24 – 00:03:30:20
I know more about Transformers. That little dickhead over there. Yeah, there's my film. But, they'll probably eject you if you go in there on your own. On your own. They'll eject you. They'll say, sorry, you're making the children feel uncomfortable. You can have to leave.

00:03:30:22 – 00:03:56:16
And we come up. The plan of that going together. Rick. Yeah. Yes. That's awesome. Rin. Yeah, that makes us a ring. But then it's like, you know, like a, I, I just read basically say. That I was, you know, a problem heart. Is it not a problem shared is a problem halved. Yeah. I don't you know, if I'm the pedo, we're both pedo.

00:03:56:22 – 00:04:10:18
I think I like that, I'm not going to feel the, the real force of it. It's ramping up the problem. If anything, if we join forces. Yeah. Right. Okay. We're just gonna have to wait until it comes out.

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Yeah. You know, I know it's a predicament. It's a bloody predicament. And I don't want to like, you know, when, like, I never go to the cinema. I never because want it fucking. I don't want to remortgage my house to go to the cinema is so expensive. And you call it. You got a guy for tango Ice Blast.

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You go. Yeah. It cost as much as a ticket and all it. Do you remember? Right. I used to get. Really? I used to feel so fucking weirded out. An awkward that when we used to go to the cinema at, like, a young age, say, in the teens, they used to be like this, like little Segway this advert before the film started.

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And it's this round silver ball that would swirl around the screen before. And it used to be really loud. And yeah, I could hear the speakers shake. It just made me feel fucking like, just give me the mic is horrible, I don't know. And and that's what I associate going to the cinema. So I don't really like that.

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But I at the you mentioned us being a predicament. Philly's in a bit of a predicament. Yeah. I am fascinated by this story. So, like, we we we can't talk about it, can we? I mean, well, you don't know anything, do you? Can know what I know. Just what's what's been. Yeah. You just it's, It's just, he's done a really bad thing.

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Well, no, no. Hang on. Whoa, whoa. Oh, shit. No, I mean, I mean, allegedly, I don't know what he's done. I have no idea what he's done. I've no idea what he's done. But you do. So he's been accused of. Of doing really bad things. Will go, Yeah. Yeah, several times. And he's, he's currently being is released on bail.

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But you can't leave the city of Perth. That's right. So, if you don't know, young, young Philly is he's a would you call him a YouTuber? He's in social media. He's all over the internet. Yeah, he's an influencer. Yeah, he's an influencer. And he's also brought a couple of music tracks out as well. Yeah. Would you call him a hip hop artist?

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I just call him, I think, like artists, but really, I, I would, I would call him, like, so when you reach a certain stage in your, you're of a certain age influence in isn't just about, you know, making TikToks is anything you do. Anything you can is the music. You might do, boxing you might do. Yeah. In all cases that there's a model there, right?

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As long as it honors and gains attraction and attention, it's worth worth doing to these people. So it just is massive. Like people don't understand how influential people like Philly in chunks and obviously kind of cyber forum, the hugely influential. And they are like, I can tell you how much Philly and trunk's charge for a day. Right?

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Because in in my industry, you sort of come across you meet people like producers and stuff and, and they, they charge and it's you'd be sick how much money they get paid for a shoot? They might do ten shoots of work a week, 20 grand a day. Oh, my God, really? Ten, 20 grand a day? Yeah.

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Gee, and you think that's too much? But the value of them and the audience, they bring makes the advertiser so much more money than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Relative. Really? Anyway, I am, I am, I wouldn't have infatuated, but, I have, a keen interest in this influence. It's weird in, in sphere of, you know, like your B views.

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Don't talk to me about beef. I've asked told us about beef. I don't bring him up. If you're not talking about him. All right, so Ricky will say what you want to talk about this weekend. I just tickets, okay. Ricky said, every week I go. Can we talk about Bevo this week? And you're like, no. Or you just ignore me?

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And then you just brought him up and I'm like, okay, this is an episode. This is an episode about this world, for sure, 100%. Ed Murphy's my favorite. And, and Bevo, there's there's loads of him. I can't tell you. What do you want to do that next week? Then? I thought we had a plan for next week.

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We do, but we, I'm appeasing you. Oh, I would, which I believe is a good idea. I don't need to appease me. I would. Oh, no is a good idea. So why you. Why not? Why are you not batting for me? Because there's a there's a schedule. Oh. That's it. You're stickler for rules, you. Because I'll be a stickler for the rules.

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I know you know that. Yeah, but you got prime talent here. You know, if I'm. If I'm passionate about something like Bebo, you got short. Why do you want to work? Always be passionate about it. For those you love. Save. So long as we stick to your schedule. I'm not sure I love Bebo, but I'm infatuated.

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Yeah, in a no, actually, that is. That's too. That's true. But I think there too much. That's too much. It's not, it's not. I don't have negative feeling. I don't have a positive feeling about him. I just I'm a I'm just obsessed with by him. He just intrigues me so much. And, and it tells you so much about society and the shift online and how people interpret content and what content is now like.

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When I say content back in the day, you know, it would be prime content that attracted adulation and, and, and worth might be a, a 10,000 word dissertation in the times that a journalist has worked as worked months on reporting. Yeah, yeah. In this day and age, it's a young man, a weird looking young man with eyes practically on the side of his head.

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He can't swallow a potato properly or move to the point. Can swallow a whole potato. That makes him very, very wealthy. But we've shifted away from quality for quantity, and I just wanna have a conversation about it. And below is the is the conduit. Where 100% we will. And, I could we could start talking about this now, but we're not going to.

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So the last episode, mental health. Thank you all for your emails, social and your feedback. Was that the, there was a lot of people that found, where I speaking about where it was kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back about my work situation, the redundancy and everything that came along with that. And there's quite a few people that have gone through that, that are going through that.

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That's it struck a chord with them. And the human givens pillars that I've mentioned as well, that you you found it all very useful. And if you didn't know, it's in the episode notes. Okay. So I've put them all there. So if you go back pillars. Yeah. If you go back to episode 38, Mental Health and you look in the episode notes, the, human givens pillars are all in there.

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So you can go and check them out. If you don't follow us on any social, then it's fine. What? What are you doing? What are you doing? Right. Where are you at night? Don't listen to Ricky. It's funny. At lats. Unknown pod. We're on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, wherever you get your socials, we're there. Come and have a look.

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See what we're doing. Got lots of reels, TikToks, old photos of, Flav and I, the, the Throwback Thursday is that we do that are very well received. So come and give us a follow. We are now going to jump straight into today's topic and that is phobias. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah I wasn't sure what you was going to say then.

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Just for a second, what do you think I was going to say? I forgot what we talked about. Okay. Now, I know a phobia is an overwhelming and debilitating fear of an object, place, situation, feeling, or animal phobias are more pronounced than fears they develop when a person as an exaggerated or unrealistic sense of danger about a situation or object.

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So.

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I'm just want to draw. Just like from what was made. I think there's mention on the last app. Got any? I don't know. If I do. We'll get into that. And you can you can write it, but you actually do have a genuine phobia. Phobia. Do I try try pop a phobia. Oh I forgot I had that for a second.

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I think. No one. I didn't know what you can say. I didn't know what you were going to say. And then as soon as you said that, images filled my head or not, even though I thought, I've told you so, then I actually can't visualize any images. But that feeling involved in it. Just when you said it, I don't say it again because people might.

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They weren't like it. Are we able to talk about this? Of course it will be easier. Yeah. Wouldn't be a very good episode if I wasn't willing to talk about it with it. No, we can talk about loads of other phobias now. Let's, It's fine, it's fine. I just caught me unawares, and now I'm prepared. Right. Okay.

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Yeah. When did you first know that you had this? So I so I thought about this a lot because I've. I've been aware of it, but I wasn't aware, so I wasn't aware that I had it until I was exposed to, an image on the internet, for example, that made me feel a certain way, but I didn't know there's a name for it.

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I didn't know other people felt that way. I just knew that when I looked at it, I made me feel like it's hard to describe the feeling. It it feels like sick. You feel sick? Now I feel now. Right now I feel nauseous. You feel like you you want to destroy it? Like, just. And you feel like.

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It's. You want it off, you just want to look away. I think it's hard to articulate in the same way it's, How do you articulate what happiness feels like other than using the word happiness? You can't. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So that's what it is. And, so, so I think when it started was I watched my mum do something, it was she, she, when I was little, with one of my kind of earliest memories I can remember, really.

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And there was a carpenter beach. You know what that is like a it's a it's a bee. It's called a carpenter bee. And they live solitary on their own, and they carve holes or dig holes. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah I don't know. Yeah yeah yeah. Very very particular very neat holes. And I saw my mum go oh

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And she, she covered it. And I think that maybe where, where it started has your mum go there. I, I think it was or was it. She was just grossed out that there's like a bee drilling holes in the windows. No, no, it was the hole that she had the issue with. So it's, it's a weird, weird phobia because it's, it's not just one hole with many holes clustered together that which I have.

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Yeah. With like a crumpet, but as now I'm talking about it, I feel more comfortable. I can, I can look at a crumpet and eat one another. I don't really have an issue. Whereas when I was younger, I hated that. I hated them. But yeah, I think that's that's where they come and say my dad was spiders.

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He has a fear of spiders. Some say he can't touch some, like, his wife has to get spiders out of the thing. But the spirit is very. No way. Really? Yeah, yeah. He's like, you know, he's very sort of old school London bloke. Cockney geezer. Right? But you can't go near a spider. But this morning there was a house spider in the bathtub.

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It's cliche. Does that sound? And I picked it up on my hand and got rid of it. So any fear of spiders? Oh, fuck. You know, you what? What? Night? I was in a hurry, so the. My boy wanted his hair washed before for school because he forgot to do it last night, and it was too late, so I was giving him a hand washing his hair.

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And there was a, there was a it was either that or flush it down the plug on. I'm gonna do this. Yeah. Well yeah. Straight away. Okay. Well you flush but it's down the plughole. Yeah. My, my, that's that's the that's the one. It's one of the ones that I have. I absolutely cannot stand spiders. The, you know, the there are some spiders that are fine.

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You know, the ones with the tiny pin like bodies and the long legs. Yeah. They're like orbs up spiders. I have no idea what they are. They're fine. But we we went to when we went to Longleat with the kids, you know, the spider big a like. Yeah, yeah, he's a bit different. It is different. But at that time as well, my kids, were scared of spiders and I wanted to do that thing that kind of demonstrate that it's not that bad.

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And I wanted to take myself out of my comfort zone by holding this big transition. And I'd never done anything like that. It's fucking weird. I don't to this day know why I did it, obviously. I wanted to prove a point to my kids, and I did that, and I felt like the weight of this big spider on my hand, and it was fucking horrible.

00:19:03:00 – 00:19:26:07
But I did it, and I am the chief spider exterminator in our house, so I need spiders. Don't exterminate them. Just put outside my I like literally, I cannot I like I can't do that thing where I have a glass or a container, put over it, slide a bit of paper over it and then walk it outside that I can't.

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I wouldn't be able to walk it anywhere in case it came loose and it started crawling on me or something. So I have to get I have to get a tissue and, and, and fucking you. And then it does not happen to me. I guess this is a phobia as well where, where I live. But European hornets are relatively common.

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Oh, fuck. Really? Yeah. If you haven't, have you seen one before in the city? I don't know, I've never saw one in my entire life. They're big fucking. No, they they're big and they make a massive racket when they fly. I not like a bee, but much more intense in a bee. Their wings are bigger. And when they land, you know, in the,

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What would you say? Like a mantis can move his head independent of his body. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hornets so the head move independent that flies do that as well. Anyway, one come into the house landed on my t shirt and it was so heavy it was pulling my t shirt down. That's how heavy the. Since it was so strong.

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Sexually assault. Yeah. I don't know if it was doing that. I just think I'm not sure it was have the mental capacity to understand that. But it was, it was just I felt the weight of this insect on me, and I was like, fuck, that's not what you should do. You shouldn't feel the weight of an insect.

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That's that's too much. If you come. Anyway, I started running around the kitchen, Olly. And she was running away from me. And it was just. It was. It was mayhem. Just quickly, though, if you see a European on it, leave it be. Right. They're not aggressive. They're much less aggressive than you. You're a general wasp, but you'll find in in the UK.

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And they eat wasps. Good. They're good. I, I like going back to the to the me. I have a couple spiders and holding that tarantula. And then that spurred me on because I was able to do that. And I also hate bees and wasps. So then I went to Ireland and my Mrs. Auntie has. She keeps, bees.

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And she offered it out to anyone that wants to kind of come and have a look at them. And I put my hand up to prove in front of my children that bees and wasps aren't scary. And when I got there, I put all the kind of the the netting and the mesh on and all that lot. And as soon as she opened the lid and I saw the amount of bees that were there and they were just all over, my wife and I fucking flipped out.

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If you want to see that video, we've posted it on our Instagram, but that was one of those times. But I, you know, we try to keep things under control. Yeah. And try your best not to panic. And they say if X happens never do y. And I did exactly the y because I was just so filled with fear of the amount of bees buzzing around my face and just hearing it vibrate in my head.

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It was fucking horrible. So, so so what you tried to do was, you know, cure the fear of. Yeah, your children might have a wasp, but in fact, you increased it. Yeah, because they thought that that was gonna be a stun to death. There. You even you can hear the audio, the video. They're all fucking laughing.

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Wax. Funny. But, so with, like, for me, insects. I mean, I don't really enjoy insects a lot, to be fair. And like it is that, you know, when it landed on you that. Oh, did you panic? Yeah, I, I oh yeah. And it was more like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like if you woke up and there was a cockroach sitting on your chest, but, fuck you.

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Now that's that. I've, you know, I've never seen a cockroach in real life. I know it did in Spain. I did in Spain. Yeah. Espana. I love it over there, mate. Why do they fucking love it over there? I go there every year and they're like, at my grandparents villa. And they are. They're just everywhere. And obviously I'm the, the, the the cockroach killer.

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And why would you stop killing everything, mate? Honestly, honestly. Like, there is no way that you can capture one of these things. They move so quick. They're so heavy, like they're shells. You have to spray them with this chemical and then like, I didn't do it. Fuck off, mate, fuck off. I'm can't even have that conversation. They, they're just horrid.

00:24:08:05 – 00:24:37:01
They are absolutely horrible spiders. I can I could get my way around that. But they made so fast. Cockroaches. They, they're a plague that they're just absolutely disgusting. No, I don't know. Well, God, let's just. Cockroaches can be dangerous to humans. Disease transmission. Cockroaches can carry and spread bacteria, viruses that cause diseases such as diarrhea, cholera, typhoid fever, leprosy, plague and polio.

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Fair enough. Kill the fucking hahahahahahahaha. They are insane. And I like if you know when, on I'm a Celebrity. Get Me Out of there. One of the challenges they wear. Kind of. It looks like a space man's, helmet. Yes, they sell about, yeah. Glass bottle. They fill them up. If that happened to me with cockroaches, I think I'd have a heart attack.

00:25:04:17 – 00:25:26:08
And I think you'd be able to do one of those Bushtucker trials where you have to eat, you know, dicks and stuff like that. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, I like cow dick or whatever. Cow bollock, all that stuff. Blended insects and down it and all that stuff. Oh, Lord, I'd have a good cut that I'd have the Constitution to keep it down.

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I don't know, I didn't say that I'd give it a go. Give it. Think about what should he grub? I don't think we should live. Which should he grab? Yeah, a live one and it pops in your mouth. You would give it a go. I'd give it a go. I don't know how I'd get back. I couldn't, I had a phobia on about the, the spiders and the cockroaches in that helmet thing.

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Like, I don't even think they put one in. I have to pull the cord and be like, I'm a celebrity and beat the shit out of an could and dec. Well, Well, what what would you be comfortable with? Because, like, rats, I'm fine with that. In a in a in snakes. That's fine to me. Right. Okay. No, it's the, I've got some I've got some fears.

00:26:09:19 – 00:26:39:15
Here. Let me. Where is it I can't she's not the phobias. Right. Why are they so crazily put together? Fear of snakes is I said I can't even say I fit the oh phobia. Oh 30 phobia. Yes. Yeah, that's that's crazy that the name for snakes. The fear of snakes. And I, you know, snakes are fucking weird.

00:26:39:15 – 00:27:03:19
I wouldn't say I've got a huge fear. But I remember when I was younger, a lad that used to live down my street, he had, he had a python, and I'd want. I want a snake. I'd love a snake. Would you? You scared the snakes. I wouldn't say I'm scared. I am interested. And I do remember holding this python when I was younger.

00:27:04:02 – 00:27:23:07
A smell as well. What? A snake smell was weird. It did smell, and, and I remember when I'd like, in the summertime when it is hot. They had a tree outside the front of the house. They just, like, wrap it around the tree and just like it's Python, it's just chilling there. Yeah, that didn't really scare me.

00:27:23:07 – 00:27:47:13
And I do like snakes. And I like the fact that if they bite you, they can some of some of them can kill you. A lot of them can kill you. But there isn't that same fear as in spiders, like, I just think because they're so prevalent over here, like, you know, just a friendly wolf spider here, they just some of them can grow.

00:27:47:13 – 00:28:20:14
So big. Just horrible. Yeah. I can't get over him. That's just disgusting little things do you suffer from? So this is a list of the top ten phobias in the UK. So arachnophobia is numbers. This is number one. Well, number one yeah I think it's, this is what, 1 to 10. Okay. But, arachnophobia. I was scared of the when I saw that film.

00:28:20:14 – 00:28:42:10
Arachnophobia. Yeah. That fucking dumb as well. They're remaking it. Oh my God, are they really? Yeah. Do you know that only, like, four spiders were killed in that in the whole making of arachnophobia, you've killed more spiders and died in the making of a retina phobia by a long stretch. Oh, easily. Easily. Yes. That. Yeah, that's a sound.

00:28:42:10 – 00:29:09:06
Quite badass. Do the list do less than, acrophobia. Is that. Is that how you pronounce it? These pronunciations get acronyms. Is is it fly? Heights? Heights? Claustrophobia? Yeah. I mean everyone mind space is not Netflix. Shut up. Are you. Well, you can go like. No, I'm not your part. Yeah, yeah. You got, you know, any particular little shit tonight, pie?

00:29:09:08 – 00:29:26:05
I hate you doing that right now, are we? Let me see. Let me see your phone. If you're booking a new party right now. Right. Okay. I'll take that back a day. Take that back. I used to freak out like my luck was play fighting with my brothers when I was a kid. And one of the things was getting a duvet.

00:29:26:07 – 00:29:49:02
And you'd wrap your wrap. I'd get, we don't do it to each other. You'd wrap them up in the duvet so they couldn't move and then sit on you. I hated that I hated it so much, I hated it. So even now, it gives me anxiety thinking about it. Yeah, similar. One is what you know when you take all the cushions off a sofa and you're just like, lying on the spring base, and then some of this cushions on top of you.

00:29:49:05 – 00:30:07:01
Yeah. And then they sit on you like you're the sofa and you don't know where you are. I remember that being done to me did not. Do you remember, do you remember like bundles? You have the bundles when you was a kid? Yeah. Yeah. So you'd find someone and there might be 20 of you in a group and you'd bundle.

00:30:07:01 – 00:30:22:02
And if you were a part of that bundle was hell. Because control how fast you're going to get out. You feel like you're going to be crushed, but also you've got 20 other people with their own individual will above you. You can't control the individual at 20 people. They might want to stay there for a bit. And I'm not ready for to stay there for a bit.

00:30:22:02 – 00:30:53:09
I need out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I call it a meta phobia. Fear of vomiting. Yeah, it's quite a bit harder. If I had that, my girlfriend had that, she couldn't. Oh yeah. She could watch any programs with, with vomiting. We'd have to with, we'd pick a film and we'd have to Google. So there's lots of people online who've chronicled films that have any people vomit in it, and they won't watch it.

00:30:53:12 – 00:31:16:16
It's triggering. I fuck yeah, I didn't know that era. I can't talk about much now. I fear of flying air phobia. Yeah, there you go. Like with that one with me. And like we've discussed this on about did a whole episode of Fear flying and I do we do have a fear of flying. But I wouldn't say I have a phobia.

00:31:16:17 – 00:31:48:05
I just I think because I actually get on planes. Yeah. What is phobia one that you can't control that stops you from doing things. Yeah. That that's what I would say. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I know I've done about six flights in a year last year. Yeah. You know I didn't want to but about did it. But I think if you had a phobia you would be like, I know people that won't fly like that was weirdly, I saw a TikTok this morning and it was Kyle Walker being interviewed and publishing co with a fear of flying.

00:31:48:07 – 00:32:12:05
Publishing goes an obscure Russian forward that played for Tottenham about 12 years ago. Most people who aren't Spurs fans, they won't know who he is, but we flew up to Sunderland for a for a game and the plane went in relatively close contact with another one. And this is, in the words of Kyle Walker, as it may not be exactly right, but yeah, dip and drop really quickly.

00:32:12:07 – 00:32:37:00
And, the pilot did a good job in sorting out anyway, and the publishing co wouldn't get back on the plane. I think he drove back to Russia and never played game. I wouldn't have the same, again at once. The snakes, I can't even pronounce it. That's what else you got there. Social phobia, social anxiety disorder, fear of social situations.

00:32:37:00 – 00:33:01:01
Yeah. I mean, lots of people feel that way. But social anxiety. But phobia would prevent you from going into social situations. Yeah, some people I'd get social anxiety sometimes, but people I don't know, sometimes I'm good. Sometimes I feel comfortable when I'm in my zone. Other times I really clam up. It's weird. I can't like if I'm going to a party and I'm invited, it's just me.

00:33:01:03 – 00:33:19:20
I couldn't go in there on my own and start mingling with other people, saying how I what you do and know that I would rather just not go. Do you know what? If I have a responsibility to make the situation feel, more comfortable, then I'm generally okay in it. So my wife is very she's the opposite in that respect.

00:33:19:20 – 00:33:39:08
She's not. She's introverted and in at times I could be extroverted if I want to be. And so often she'll wheel me along to these things just so I can be the social buffer for her. You've got to be the shield. Yeah. Which I don't want, do I? I don't mind doing that. Don't. I mean, if I'm on my own, there is no purpose to it.

00:33:39:10 – 00:33:58:24
I don't really, I've met enough people now. I feel I don't have to put myself in situations where I need to meet new people. Yeah. We, my friends in that, we went to an event, didn't we, last year? It was at the beginning of this year. Yeah, yeah. So if they're. I do it. But I was all right.

00:33:58:24 – 00:34:18:15
Because you were my social butterfly and you knew few people there. And you've, you know, you've worked with these people. So when we went in, the room opened up, it was very noisy. Everyone in that room, I didn't know anyone a single. So. And I for flats with me, that's for. Oh, shit. You sure he's talking to someone right away?

00:34:18:15 – 00:34:36:00
I'm just stuck here. My. I now pretend I was, I fuck, fuck fuck. So I just kind of, kind of think she was all right. Yeah, yeah, I know I did have a few beers as all right, but, Yeah, but that was that wasn't a relaxing environment. That was work. That. Yeah. Well, when you was in there, it wasn't.

00:34:36:00 – 00:35:17:23
I was, I felt like I'm making an effort here to make sure that this conversation doesn't dry up. Yeah. It wasn't a relaxing conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those ones, there's, saboteur phobia, fear of death and my myself, a phobia. Fear of germs or contamination. We've had some emails in about other people's, phobias. And I just want to say that obviously, phobias are fucking horrible things when the actual real phobias and we've spoken before about different types of therapy.

00:35:18:00 – 00:35:39:09
And if you do suffer a genuine like debilitating phobia, then I would suggest that you go and see someone and try and do some CBT therapy. And what was the one that you mentioned? It was the exposure therapy. Yeah. It's like you just if you're if you're scared of spiders, it's the same with that sort of trip up.

00:35:39:09 – 00:36:01:11
A phobia is that I've seen so much that it doesn't have a as a it massive impact. Right before I didn't know that I had it kind of thing. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard, but you just keep exposing exposing you exposing yourself to it to the point where you're not scared anymore. Yeah. I, I'll send you a photo of me holding a spider.

00:36:01:13 – 00:36:21:14
So I fear blood. This one is quite common. My eldest daughter, she has a fear of blood. Fear of needles. Can't look at bleeding on the TV if she can't run. Going if or not incisions on TV. I can't look at incisions with a scalpel. You know, sometimes in medical or. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, like a vet's program.

00:36:21:16 – 00:36:42:02
The shape of it. I watch supravit genius. Okay. A super vet somehow thinks he does something somewhere. But sometimes you use a scalpel, and I, like, cannot watch incisions. I cannot I cannot look at incisions now, all day, every day that you could gobble that up. Yeah. Broke his bones. No. Oh, no. So if I'm about to watch, I know you do it now.

00:36:42:02 – 00:37:03:02
About to watch a video of someone who's about to break their legs. Yeah, but you look it in. Yeah. This is going to end well. And there's a turn like on, you get sent the videos or you see them on Instagram and there's a look to injury videos that they just have. There's just a similarity between all horrible injury videos.

00:37:03:02 – 00:37:19:08
And you kind of know it's a horrible injury video before you've even watched it. I've got brilliant at that as that. I'm not watching that one, I noticed, but just because just the way it's lit and the way it's shot, it's like this is going to be it's going to be bones exposed. Yeah, I'm the one like, where's your your watch?

00:37:19:08 – 00:37:48:00
It's what? Oh yeah. Yeah yeah. At least at least twice I quite enjoy them. Not my phobia, but I worked with a girl years ago at a fancy golf club. Did all the normal restaurant stuff at the clubhouse. And, come Sunday we have a Sunday carvery. All the trimmings, mint sauce, horseradish and red current jelly. I asked the girl in question if she could go and fill up the sauce, but I was ready for the car.

00:37:48:00 – 00:38:11:17
Every 20 minutes later, I walk into the little prep room to find her crying and shaking as she spooning out the red currant jelly. Every little yelp led to the jelly shaking more and more, which produced more and more crying. I asked her what was wrong as she and as she sobbed. She said she had a phobia of jelly.

00:38:11:19 – 00:38:44:10
A phobia of jelly. Do you remember in the office where. Yeah. Gareth got a phobia. Jelly? Yeah. And, Oh, fucking out with Tim. Hi. Despite stapler in the jelly. And he opened this drawer and it's just wobbling about, so, if you he. So he's also put. Also, my dad has a fear of the hunchback of Notre Dame, which which I mean, that is.

00:38:44:10 – 00:39:10:04
Understand it. Yeah. You can see this one. This is a very interesting one. Since I was a kid, I've had a fear of news flashes. Yes. Those fucking things that very occasionally pop up during an ad break or in the middle of a program. Those are the worst. I think it's because of the very sudden fear of what the fuck is going on in the world, and the anticipation of what I'm about to learn.

00:39:10:06 – 00:39:35:01
I don't like the, the still news flashes pop up, and the look of the news broadcast is straight down. The middle of the lens is horrible. If one pops up on screen, I have to look away or cover my eyes for a few seconds until I learn what's going on. That's mad now is mad so specific. I know, I know it, isn't it?

00:39:35:05 – 00:40:00:16
I'm. What? Have you got any more of these? Three more. Right. They're quite, quite short. Yeah. No, I'm only asking because I've got. I've just googled and I'm not sure if you've done this, but how phobias happen. Why do phobias develop? Yeah. Did you do that? I did, yeah. All right. We'll save it because it's just it it it's that doesn't explain what you've just said.

00:40:00:18 – 00:40:23:21
Why? Well, he's he's got a fear of newsreaders looking down the barrel. And he needs to know what the story is before he can watch. Like, I've read what causes phobias to appear in people, and I don't know how that fits. Right. Okay. So the the what? This one here. I can't even pronounce this fucking thing. The lesser phobia.

00:40:23:21 – 00:40:44:05
Fear of open water. Okay. This one, you said this to me a couple of times, but I don't think it's a phobia. But this person has it as a phobia. They don't know the nightmare. I don't have a name for it, but I fear when driving that my body won't do what my mind says, like a curve in the road.

00:40:44:07 – 00:41:10:11
And it just let me go on steering like you said, that's a couple of slides. I know what that is. That's that's I think it's called video phobia. That's the fear of driving, sheer. Yeah. Especially on motorways. So lots of people have it. My fear is like I'm driving a lot, right? It's an intrusive for.

00:41:10:11 – 00:41:33:03
I'm driving on. I've got if I just turn the wheel, I'm driving a 7080 though. 70 mile an hour. Right. I'm the limit. And I'm like, if I just turn well everyone's that, everyone's that, I'm that probably the other people that there's a truck coming. I just drive into that. Well, why you're putting your trust in so many people not to do that alone.

00:41:33:03 – 00:42:02:01
I mean, the same intrusive force like I'm driving along. What, like in the videos just coming at me from a massive, articulated lorry coming at me like, starving to it or what's going to happen? That I have the, I mean, I could cause a mental in in their own thing. How can something so powerful and travel so fast, like, can't you pass the time you pass driving test 700?

00:42:02:02 – 00:42:27:04
Yeah, yeah. How how how are we making 17 year olds responsible for that fucking thing? And the last one. Sorry. The last crazy, I didn't say crazy because each to their own phobia is the strings on bananas. So when you're eating a banana, the strings that come off, if it goes on their hand, that goes on their body, they, you know, that it.

00:42:27:06 – 00:42:53:10
They're flipping out like that. Was it. Hope to peel them. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same in oranges when you got a lot of. Oh, I remember the name of that white stuff is Piff. Yeah, I've done that. So what you were saying about the. So I've only got bullet points of how people suffer from phobias, genetics and biology.

00:42:53:15 – 00:43:23:03
Yeah. Traumatic experiences, which I obviously get learned behavior, which I have seen that in for firsthand. What a dog. My. Yeah. My daughter's my daughter, my eldest. It was really a knock your thing went round the family friend's house that a young puppy it jumped up. It scratched the leg. At the time, she didn't say the dog has scratched me.

00:43:23:06 – 00:43:48:05
There was no marks on her. She didn't cry. There was no. There was nothing. And then the next time she saw a dog, she freaked out, which then became a learned behavior from my younger two, who was copping the same behavior as my oldest daughter. And it just escalated. And it went to the point it got to the point where they would no longer leave the house, and we couldn't go for a walk in the summer.

00:43:48:11 – 00:44:02:13
We couldn't go to the park. And if we were at the park, they were always on the high kind of upper right. Is that, there in the. It was fucking one. I didn't know it got that bad. Yeah, well, when we came to see you. Yeah. You like you stayed in the car for about six hours. Yeah.

00:44:02:19 – 00:44:24:06
And then when they did want to come out, they just sat on the roof of the car or the trampoline where the dog couldn't come up. And love. Right now that I'm Frankie May I do? I'm a fucking Wiccan because they keep saying for Christmas they want a staff, they want a Frank. Well, let's talk about the cat issue.

00:44:24:08 – 00:44:49:17
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So I keep saying happened. Well, we they wanted to cat. Well, we got a cat. Arthur. Right? He was with us for three weeks, and then, we had to give him away. What did he do with it after? He was just he I we should have got a kitten, but we got a young cat, like, very, adolescent cat.

00:44:49:19 – 00:45:07:03
So he's always playful, running around the house, hiding in places. When you walk in, you jump out and claw you, nipping at you, those kind of things. And young girls don't like that. Well, I didn't even like that when I was fucking walking along. And he just jumps out from the stairs across the back of my leg.

00:45:07:03 – 00:45:27:14
I'm not a fucking fucking cat fucker of animals. They just stayed on top of their bunk beds for the rest of the time, because they didn't want to see the cat. Love it and get rid of the cat. You know, the bed to get rid of the cat. And I don't want to do that with a dog. So I think we're going to we'll put it off for a year.

00:45:27:16 – 00:46:00:22
Environmental factors. Evolutionary theory. I don't know what the fuck that's about. Psychoanalytic theory, conditioning and classical conditioning. I don't know what half of those things are, but what? Flavell. While we finish up this last part of five years, can you do me a favor? And can you search up the name for the phobia of fear of long words?

00:46:00:24 – 00:46:32:17
Can you, tell the listeners what it is, please? So I hope you've enjoyed the phobias, and you've, we've covered all of your phobias. I don't. If. What the fuck are they taking the piss? I, I, like why do that? That's someone taking the piss somewhere. Is that. It's insane, innit? All right, I'll go give it a go.

00:46:32:19 – 00:46:40:21
Go on, my son. Go on. Hang on a second.

00:46:41:11 – 00:47:07:24
Right. It is. Sorry. This is terrible podcast. So the. So the fear of long words is actually one of the longest words you will probably hear or see. It's fucking, mental. I've never seen I've never seen a word as long as this. Not. So. Why have they done that? Someone's just gone. We going to be right?

00:47:07:24 – 00:47:37:19
Assholes. Here. Who gives the names to these things? Like what? Like, er, a phobia makes complete sense. Yeah, right. But this. All right. Okay. I'm going to give it a go. I want to do, hip hop. Hip hop. So monstrosity quip bit deadly of phobia yet. Very good. Let's get it. Poem monstrous. Equip your phobia. Yeah, someone's been a broken other.

00:47:40:05 – 00:48:02:09
That is absolutely madness. There's fear. I've got this fear of long words. What's it called? I don't want to say, but I know this. There's so many. Like. It's like a the word like dyslexic. It's such a hard word. So we can have somebody who is dyslexic. What the fuck? Right. What is the hardest word spelling about?

00:48:02:11 – 00:48:29:08
I've got the hardest. What? Gone. And the diarrhea is a hard word spell. My fucking awful. Why are they done? Right? Do that. Why? That makes sense. Like what? You suppose it. If it doesn't do the job? The word doesn't do the job? No. In my head, in my mind, I'm always like diarrhea, right? Just so, so in my I, my phobias often play out in my dreams.

00:48:29:10 – 00:48:51:21
Oh, God. Yeah. So I will dream about my phobias all the time. So I dream about sharks a lot. When I was a kid, I dreamed about sharks all the time. I used to dream about great whites, but different colors. Sometimes it be a green and white, one blue and white, one brown and white, one. And I dream about plane crashes and being in a plane crash every week.

00:48:51:23 – 00:49:18:06
I had one last night. I had one last night. Oh my God. Really? Yeah. And to the point where I'm not aware, I'm dreaming. I feel like I'm in it all the time, mate. All the time. I a lot and often it's like, I'm in. So we were in a there's last night this was which I was in, I was in a, Easyjet but it was a new one and it was, it was a new jet.

00:49:18:06 – 00:49:34:17
And we were kind of it was all open. And the people that are in there, I kind of knew, but I was sitting backwards so much like where the stewardess would sit. But it was open and there was glass above and behind so you could see outwards. And the pilot just flew it upwards, directly upwards until it stalled.

00:49:34:17 – 00:49:55:03
And I was I was calmly, oh, what's going on here, man? We doing that for. So that's what we get to Spain man. It's what I've holiday anyway. And I woke up. That was that. God, I, I remember when I am, when I used to smoke weed all day, every day, and I'd never have a dream.

00:49:55:03 – 00:50:29:02
And then when I came off of it, I used to dream all the time. And it was fucking mental dreams like that. And thank fuck that has stopped because you'd have a fear of going to sleep after those fucking dreams. God. Yeah, right. We're going to go on to dilemmas and something only you know. So the dilemmas. Well, the dilemma is called nightmare next door neighbor and something only you know, it's called it finally happened.

00:50:29:04 – 00:50:56:22
Now the topic for next week is going to be 80s 90s TV shows. What was your favorite as a kid, teenager or young adult? If you're in our, age range, can you remember any strange ones? I remember there was one on Sky one. I think it was called Monkey Magic, where, a Japanese guy would call clouds from the sky.

00:50:56:23 – 00:51:20:14
Yeah, I remember that. And then he would jump on it and he would just be flying about on it, like, what the fuck was that about? No idea. Yeah, I liked him. Yeah, I like that as well. He's like back think. Yeah, yeah. Remember that thing? Yeah. He had a bulletproof, bat wings. Yeah. And again, like what you're saying at the top of the show, Transformers is the fucking goat of all of these.

00:51:20:14 – 00:51:43:18
Barnum. I also want to talk about Transformers. Good. That's good. So if you've got any that you want to submit and you want to talk about, or you want us to talk about lads anon pod at gmail.com. But red, red shoes, red shoes, diaries. They they called me, they hit that multi one.

00:51:43:20 – 00:52:17:00
They. Yeah they were the days. Right. We're going to go into dilemmas. So just tired. You got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad cause I will give you an aching in your soul alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to play like you're safe here to get nice and warm between Vicky and then.

00:52:20:06 – 00:52:46:24
Nightmare next door neighbor. I have a next door neighbor. He calls me at least once or twice a month and asked me to go around his and chill. We aren't very close. Aside from the odd neighbor niceties, normally those calls come after he's had some relationship issues with his wife, and I can tell he's steaming. In the past, I've seen him get in his car late at night and go for a drive.

00:52:47:01 – 00:53:06:16
I've told him not to do this many times. He called me at lunchtime the other week and I could tell he was pissed on the phone. When I asked him what he was doing, he said he was just driving around trying to find something to do because he didn't want to go home to his wife. He's an absolute unit size as well.

00:53:06:18 – 00:53:26:19
I've heard him talk about his friends. We had a falling out wave, and I know that he can be a bit of a psycho sometimes. Couple that with the fact that he's my next door neighbor and I'm hesitant to call the police on him, what the fuck do I do? He's going to damage himself or someone else sooner or later.

00:53:26:24 – 00:53:54:14
But I also don't want to be a grass. I mean, the grass thing isn't you don't concentrate on that. It doesn't matter. Like, you know, fucking a 14 year old boy. No, you know, it's not about Grassing. Don't worry about that. I can understand why you don't want to create an issue for yourself that isn't there already. But imagine how bad you'd feel if he killed someone.

00:53:54:16 – 00:54:22:18
In it or himself now. And it's. Well, like, I don't know if the first thing that came into my head is if I. You don't know if you've, if this gentleman's got kids. But when all these situations always happen, I always put myself in those shoes watching my kids were playing out in the front of the house and he pulls up in the driveway and he's steaming, and he puts his foot on the accelerator, and he power straight into my kids, like, anyone's kids, anyone's pet.

00:54:22:18 – 00:54:45:03
You know, that can't fucking happen. And that cannot happen. What do you do then? Did you call the police when he pulls out and you go, you know, he's been drinking. This is he's you got a game. I think there is a isn't there a police line like a one man one or some shit like that where it's not emergency police, but it's like, would that make you feel better that you're not grassing him up to the proper police?

00:54:45:03 – 00:55:07:11
He just goes to the non-emergency one. Well, I'd ask him what I should do, and at least I would have that, on record to say I've contacted them. And then if they say, actually, you should go to that, you know, police, police, then I'll probably do that. But then I couldn't then go, oh, he's pulling out his driveway now.

00:55:07:11 – 00:55:22:18
It's 10:10. I can see what he's doing and be on the phone and stuff like, it wouldn't get back to you, though, anyway, would it? You know, like the police don't say. Oh, by the way, your next door neighbor told us it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter if they catch him driving. Then they catch him over the limit.

00:55:22:20 – 00:55:51:21
It. You didn't need any more evidence than that. That's enough to convict him. Look, ultimately, you, protecting him, you're protecting a potential victim who could be hit by him. And you probably might even help him getting his drinking in check. He obviously hates his marriage. So being sober might give him some clarity and make the right decision.

00:55:51:21 – 00:56:15:21
He's often drinking, is a way of not having to deal with the difficult things you have to deal with, like a bad relationship or a bad marriage. So often when people are sober, it will be something stressful or, something difficult. The time for you to drink. Because when you've had a everyone knows you've had a few beers, you feel on top of the world.

00:56:15:23 – 00:56:40:03
That problem that you had sort of disappears for a bit. And then the more drunk you get, the problem comes flying back with a vengeance. Mate. You need to get out of his relationship. By the sounds of it, that's not on you. I think, you know, I understand why you're conflicted. I think in this instance, the right thing would be to figure out what's the advice from police in this instance?

00:56:40:05 – 00:57:05:07
Get you talk to him. You told him and it's stop drink driving, stop drink driving. You said it. Some people don't take the hint. Do they say, yeah, I go to the, go to the roses and see what they have to say about it. And, yeah, this something I, you know, is a short but sweet one.

00:57:05:09 – 00:57:35:14
Way. Something, you know. It finally happened to me. First time writing in. So. Hello. Since the first time it's been discussed on the pod, I've been wondering if I could get off while asleep. Two. Being that I'm a woman, I've definitely had sexy dreams before, but never to climax. I can now say it's finally happened to me.

00:57:35:14 – 00:58:04:07
At last I woke up from a sexy dream. I was in the middle of sweet release. I wasn't even doing anything to myself. It was incredible. I haven't even told my boyfriend and it's probably sad to say. My immediate thought upon waking up was, I have to tell Ricky. That something. Oh, he. I know.

00:58:04:09 – 00:58:26:17
I see what you've done, Rick, but I'm but brilliant when I, when I, when I read that, I was like fist pumping on the table. I was like, fuck it. Now what have I done? Jesus Christ, no case was asking me about it. Chris has me up for, you know, the Jack party? Okay. Yeah. Wait. I mean, we could sit.

00:58:26:18 – 00:59:02:14
We could still do what? I mean, like, I it's so. Charlie, this is just thinking aloud here, right? And we we could we. Charlie's got a studio in Shoreditch. Yeah, or somewhere around there. Bricklaying. Something like that. And he's got a space for 80 people. A bar, a closed off room. Like, could we do, like, an eagle, you know, live version of of of of lads.

00:59:02:16 – 00:59:26:11
We, I mean, that would be. Yeah, we could we've got the venue because we've got the venue, but what can we do that was funny. I mean, do you remember the idea about the location? Yeah. We should talk about this. Yeah, we should do that. Would they? That maybe have a Christmas Eve party? Party? Yes. Sydney's a name.

00:59:26:13 – 00:59:46:20
Send us an email or, give us drop us a message on social if that's something that you would be interested in. Yeah. Come up to a lads anonymous Christmas party to a Friday night. We're just a few drinks, nothing massive, just in a room chatting to people in our own safe space. Closed off not to general public.

00:59:46:20 – 01:00:08:00
And then we could go on to a couple of pubs afterwards, maybe. Yeah. Is that something that interests you? If so, contact at lads. None at all. Yeah, well, email if you have to. All ages. Everyone's welcome. Every gender. Yeah. Well you said not if your gender. Is that what you're about to say? No, I was going to say not all ages.

01:00:08:06 – 01:00:18:03
We we, you know, we don't want under eighteens coming because you know, people living with pedophiles again.

01:00:18:05 – 01:00:41:00
Alex, I gotta tell you what I found, I found it, I found a, I found a loophole. Where? Right. Or a loophole? That's a bad one. So you can just be found. I found a way around this problem we've got with Transformers one. Okay, if there are any one of these, like, younger, very young, not very young, but as in, like, I know in your teens, you're into lads.

01:00:41:00 – 01:01:05:00
And on and you're listening to the pod. We could potentially go and watch Transformers one together. So the outside of the group, people don't know that they're there for you and your son or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. That's it. We we would we wouldn't look like predators because, like, because all we want to do is watch, watch the Transformers one.

01:01:05:00 – 01:01:38:16
That's all we want. Yeah, yeah. So hit us up, man. And on that. No, we will see you next Monday. The night I see, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight. Waves surfing free time, daylight breaks, rhythm hit different ways. Love of music that we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is I, we like to speak and yeah, times change.

01:01:38:16 – 01:01:45:03
But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:00:00:00 – 00:00:31:04
Bit. A bit of a weird week with. Yeah, as in a that's based I mean, I'm not particularly or obviously I'm not a, a One Direction fan, but that kind of strategy for such a young person and you're seeing everything that's going around like photos of it looks like drug paraphernalia. And smashed up computer screen or TV screen.

00:00:31:04 – 00:00:56:07
And there's like voice notes of, apparently that the people that work at the hotel making telephone calls to the police and fire brigade and saying about it, it's I don't know, man. It's this is something that just feels a bit weird about it, like, because he was posting stories to, Snapchat and it was like, all fine.

00:00:56:09 – 00:01:18:00
Like, you know, I know that the how the days when we used to go out, not that there was any crack cocaine, not always know a crack cocaine. In the morning. You're fine. Right. It's the next morning when you're not fine, you know. So I don't want to kind of become like this, to be like a tittle tattle kind of tabloid coverage.

00:01:18:00 – 00:01:42:15
Of what? Of what's happening. He was dropped by his label this like like this week apparently or something a week before. I didn't know that Andy's publishing publishing company dropped him. He was, he was in Argentina to see, one of the other One Direction people singing. So. Yeah. And his missus flew back home and left him alone.

00:01:42:17 – 00:02:01:05
Yeah. So it feels like, you know, drugs, in my experience, could be a lot of fun until they're not a lot of fun. And then that fucking horrible. Yeah, and the horrible bit is really horrible. It isn't like it's about. It's like done like some mushrooms before. And then there's occasions I want to go to bed now and the mushrooms are out now, we ain't done yet.

00:02:01:05 – 00:02:29:21
And I'm like, oh, I'm tired. It's been a long, long day. Can I go to bed now? Like, nope. And so so that is a very, in a weird way, a microcosm of when they fuck you up. Get. Its good intro in it. So just play the jingle. Yeah, let's do it.

00:02:29:23 – 00:03:12:18
On the night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Hi is quiet. Midnight waves surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Love music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek. Bands I we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise. Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous. It's episode 40, a podcast where two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space, where all manner of subjects would be discussed, were focused on a specific subject matter first, and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice or handled anonymously.

00:03:12:18 – 00:03:33:01
So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, mate? It's been a stressful, tiring week, I gotta say. Not quite as tiring as other people's know. I know, what's been, what's been keeping you up, then? Nothing. Only positive stuff, really, but positive stuff. There's a lot of sort of found a house I want to buy.

00:03:33:01 – 00:03:47:06
And we're in the process of doing the bureaucracy involved. But there's so much, so much more than I thought there was going to be. Even though People planet said it's the most stressful time of your life and all that shit. And I don't believe that. But moving house isn't the most stressful thing you can go through in your life as bullshit.

00:03:47:08 – 00:04:13:10
No? Surely relative dying is much more stressful than that. Yeah, I found the most stressful time in my life. It was an even. I didn't even do anything. It was childbirth. Watching my partner go through that, and not knowing whether my Mrs. is going to come out okay, the child is going to come out okay, or either both of them not come out okay.

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Yeah. And for a prolonged period of like 48 hours of it going on, it's fucking a long one then was it. Yeah. Yeah. Lost the normal. Yeah. Because she had to be induced and and then when that happens, it was just because the baby wasn't ready to come out. So it was just a prolonged period of my missus being in labor for fucking ages and then obviously getting to the to the final bit.

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But my like when people say, oh, that, you know, happiest of my life is, you know, my child. Yes. The fact of having a child is incredibly rewarding and happy. But the process of getting to that point was fucking, it was awful. Absolutely. Or was is baby one or baby two? Both of them? Baby, that was mainly baby one.

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But, yeah, it's just such a fucking, you know, people that listen to you if you, if you, you know, waiting to have children enjoy that, by the way. It's fucking. Yeah. It's just so stressful. And then again, buying the house, like you were saying, of the pitfalls of falling through or finding something on a survey or.

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Oh, by the way, everything's going fine, but we've got hold of ten grand. Why have you got a hold of ten grand? Because we didn't understand this fee. And it turns out you've got a plate and it's not. Fuck me, man. I'm. I'm straight, man. I've got no money, which we'll meet today. We're not at that stage yet, so we don't know.

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Maybe that's coming, maybe that's coming. But thus far it's been pretty stress free. Apart from just, from collate all this information. You all know Ricky, I'm not organized, right? I don't like doing that. I don't like responding to my mouse. I don't like reading WhatsApp, so I don't like doing anything really that involves words and emailing. But did you ever, you know, say to your Mrs. when she was struggling to give birth, did you go, come on up.

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I mean, I've been doing this for thousands of years. Yeah, I did say we watched we watched one porn every minute. Like, just do what they did. Just push. Keep coming out. Right. It came out on that show today. Yes. It's easy. Just, you know, you know, I don't think you're putting enough effort in what you should be doing isn't good enough.

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That's what you should have said. This isn't. Yeah. This isn't good enough. You're you're embarrassing you. You're watching my name. You're embarrassing. You're embarrassing everyone that stand in. Yeah. Do you think these nurses and this midwife, they're not busy. They just for these. Look after you. They're. And this is the thing, right? Is what? You know, there's some people that are critical of the NHS and as some people are fiercely defensive of it.

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And there are others that go, we understand the problems. You know, we've got, you know, a population that's grown and grown and grown and grown and grown and grown, and the NHS has to manage that right. But they don't. If you're in trouble, no matter how long you are in trouble for, they are there. Yeah, she's crazy and it's no wonder they make mistakes.

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And they wonder this, this times where things go wrong. But you know, look the pressure they're under and they and you know, most of the time the vast majority of time they're and they do a good job. Oh for sure. And like you're saying the pressure they're under like not only if they got loads of people to see but there's like a would you call it like a stopwatch on, oh, they came into Ward three.

00:07:38:13 – 00:08:00:01
They have to be off in 24 hours, or we have to get X amount of people checked off so we can get X amount of people in. It's fucking mental, man. I would not like to be in that madness of of being on a ward. Last week's episode. Phobias. Couple of good phobias, last phobias that came in.

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One that made me laugh. The Moors Murderers mug shots.

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Someone has a phobia that they can't see. They can't look at it from when they were younger, when it was on the TV, and it's just burned into their brain that they can. No, they can't even look at it without freaking out. These are these. And this is, the what? It was Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, apparently.

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Yeah, yeah. So weird, because we've got a picture of me and Ricky as Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. I've only really. And we share that about getting canceled. I think enough times passed in it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. At the time, actually they don't want to be canceled. But I do want people to see this picture that we didn't make.

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So I don't even know where the picture is. So if you go to it, I'm sure it comes on my Facebook memories one two years. At some point I will have it again. Someone out of mad fear of frogs as well. When they were younger on the pavement they saw a frog this nice and then it jumped at them and from then on in they can't look at pictures on the internet.

00:09:05:21 – 00:09:27:15
They can't see. They can't even look at a frog. I think frogs are right. I think you just need to, Not it. Nice. Yeah, yeah. The thing to do that I hated by one time. But why I when I lived in London, if you ever went into that flat 120, did you get 120 Western? Which one was, is after one six, eight.

00:09:27:16 – 00:09:51:04
He must have done. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we put in a pond at the bottom. So you often get frogs in the frogs. Are you looking for bodies of water? Right. And then one year it just popped off down there, and there was, I would say, a thousand mini frogs, like tiny little baby frogs just milling about in the garden like fucking loads of them.

00:09:51:06 – 00:10:11:04
Well, I think like, I know what I don't understand the frogs. I could be in my house now. There's no body of water anywhere. I could put a pond in my garden and then like six months later, frogs would be there. Where do they come from? Not how do they just spawn up from out of nowhere? No, I think just go.

00:10:11:06 – 00:10:31:20
And then they smell the water and then they pop towards it. But where were they previously? They have a bit of water down the road, a bit. Because they want space, don't they? That's what I suppose. But my dad had a water feature in his garden, like in when he lived in London. It was like a a it was like four, three blocks stacked on each other and it was like a constant waterfall.

00:10:31:20 – 00:10:54:17
So the pump would be in the bottom seven. The top. Oh, it sounds good. It was quite nice. Know what that's like? Yeah. Two frogs in there. It's just like, yeah, more water pulls from this thing and bit different from a pond. But I quite right. It does want to come and see. We Well, I say we you, made a comment about, the lads anonymous live show last week.

00:10:54:18 – 00:11:20:04
Yeah. And to say that if anyone's up for it, then we would, you know, try our best to put one on. We've had loads of emails and social saying we would definitely be up for it. Is useful information too. Okay. Maybe about 15. I'd say 15, 15, maybe more. Yeah. So meet me in you in 15 people. Well, I think there'd be more than just those 15 permanent people in America.

00:11:20:04 – 00:11:36:19
So they say, oh, you will come if not Americans. And I know the thing is, is, well, the way I worded it is, is anyone up for a live show? And an L.A. live show like, that's anonymous. Yeah. Let me see. But people saying, oh, you got to come to New York, you've got to come to San Diego.

00:11:36:21 – 00:11:55:08
It's not obviously going to be your American ally. I mean, I'd love to come over and do that, but it's just not going to be me, Flav and two other people doing it. That'd be mad. So I you know, we all will look into it. We'll look into it. The only way you can do it, Ricky, is if you you set up, you can do it in the ticket.

00:11:55:09 – 00:12:12:18
It event tickets, ticketed event will have a fee of 5.70 pounds tickets yourself. And if you get over, if you can get 50 to 60, they might be worth doing 80. Yeah, that's how you do it, right? Fine. We'll, we'll look into that for you guys and we'll see if we can, get a live show going.

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And obviously everybody I don't mean everybody. Man. Woman I was going to say child, but not child. Will will be invited. Now, today's topic is what's 80s and 90s TV shows? And I think we could we could probably just focus on on one of these here because I was having a look at it and there was just too much that I want to talk about.

00:12:36:19 – 00:13:04:24
But we'll kick off with 80s kids TV shows. We know where we're going to go straight away, but, Transformers and like Rick, I yeah, it was only the film. I never really watched the TV show. That has shocked me. Well, so how did you find out about Tron? So you just went straight in to the film?

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Yeah, it was just massive when it was everywhere when we were kids. It's a massive thing. Massive buying. So I used to get up early on a Saturday morning to watch Transformers, and I used to get up extra early just so I wouldn't miss Transformers. There was a program on before it called Jace and the Wheeled Warriors. Yeah, and I wasn't a big fan of Jason.

00:13:29:16 – 00:13:47:13
The word warriors got to say fucking. I hated it, hated it. But I just sit through the last 15 minutes of it. I wouldn't miss any trends. When you were a child. 15 minutes is a lifetime. You know, I wasn't this fucking shit. Oh, you know what I quite liked about Jason? The Wild Warriors was the intro I thought was quite good.

00:13:47:17 – 00:14:08:24
The intro. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. That was. Yeah. And it was just driving around the things that a but but my issue with it was that it was plants. Exactly. So shit. But when you're 6 or 7 years old you don't want to fucking plants. I've Will's a sort of like a car. Fucking robots turn into cars then shoot guns.

00:14:09:01 – 00:14:32:23
What are the things as well? I've released a wide amount and I don't get it because this is what the show is based on. But it's based on Jace. He's trying to. Well, he's he's fighting the bad guys, but he's also trying to find his dad. He's been split up from his dad, and every episode would finish on like a cliffhanger of Jace walking into a room to find his finally find his dad.

00:14:33:03 – 00:14:51:15
And at that moment, his dad would walk out the other side of the room. Yeah, it's so cool. It's just so close. Yeah, if that's the case, just go through that door. Do you know, weirdly, because I. So the two things that I remembered about Jason, the world. Well, world warriors. Yeah. I thought it was Jason's in like my make Jason J.

00:14:51:17 – 00:15:15:21
Yes. Yeah, sure. But it's not. It's Jaworski. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I thought it's Jason. Jason in the World War is because it was Jason Jason and the Argonauts as well. Yeah. Yeah. See, but so the plant thing I'm remembering wrong because I'm looking at it now. There definitely was like sort of woodland elements to it might not know that.

00:15:16:01 – 00:15:35:04
Yeah. Yeah. That the the people they were fighting against were a plant based. Right. That's what it was creature. It's just plants like fucking actually beat them. Yes. Yeah. And it's just like, is he going to find his dad. Is he going to find these that. Oh he's missed him by a second. He's missed the fucking O'Jays.

00:15:35:04 – 00:15:52:03
Oh can you give me quick. You know, knowing this, you knew he was going to be there. Just fucking get there, Jase. You should have just know. And then he'll just be upset in that room. Walk around the premises. He's there. Chase. And then if he finds him, there'll be no more Jason. Jason, the world war is fucking fine.

00:15:52:06 – 00:16:19:16
That's absolutely fine for all of us. It's shit. We hate it. We're only here because the Transformers, it's. Exactly. And then when. And then I'll wait for Transformers to come on. And, you know, everything was just all right with the world, and they they would do some, like, episode of cliffhangers, like the Transformers would get in a spot of bother and I'll be like, this is fucking this, this episode is tasty.

00:16:19:18 – 00:16:53:23
And then and then it come on with that. You know, the voice that does like films and stuff like that. And to be continued next week I thought I'd be like, no, but first couple, couple of things I want to pick up on there, right? Yeah. In when watching cartoons and shows us as a, as a, as a kid in the 80s, there were too many cliffhangers and sometimes one episode would have two cliffhangers, so they would they knew that the cartoon was capturing the imagination of the kids, but they needed to feel alive and kicking with something.

00:16:54:00 – 00:17:10:14
Yeah. So you got Lowe's alive and in, which is all right. It might have been alive and kicking, might be something else. As a kid, I can't remember, but then you'd have 15 minutes of X-Men of an episode. Yeah. And then it cut it, and you have to wait another 45 minutes and play the second half of it, because they knew what they wanted to do.

00:17:10:14 – 00:17:24:21
You want the retention. They want the ad spend. That's what they wanted him to kid you like. I don't understand what it's what, just play the whole episode or what it was. However, like, why are you cutting his head off? Isn't I don't know, you guys, and they're fucking with you so that you sit there for longer and watch their shit.

00:17:24:23 – 00:17:41:05
That's exactly I. I didn't even realize that. I didn't know that you brought that to my attention. All right, so that was the first thing. What is the second thing? The reason why I hated Jason? The word warriors and I haven't weirdly, I haven't thought about chasing the warriors for about 35 years, but now we're talking about it.

00:17:41:05 – 00:18:04:18
Things are flooding back. I hated the spits when they weren't in their fucking machines with it walking around willy nilly like in Transformers The Movie. Ricky, when? Who's the boy? Was Daniel right? When you look at that, when Daniel isn't in his exosuit, he's shit. I couldn't get shit about his plight. I don't give a fuck about his idiot dad.

00:18:04:20 – 00:18:24:09
I don't care if he is going to be out to be dropped in the molten lava, right? Yeah. And as soon as he gets into his exosuit, I'm all on. I'm on among the ten gravy train for one of it, but got. I mean, there it is. Yeah, it's really important. And it was the blending as well of Transformers like, coexisting with humans.

00:18:24:09 – 00:18:41:05
And I remember is that spike spike. And like, I don't remember in an episode that was like trying to have it with one of the robots, one of the Decepticons. It's like, mate, like you're fucking tiny. You're a human. It's going to kill you. Are we doing? Did he have, No. He just he just, you know, normal.

00:18:41:05 – 00:19:06:20
So it's just so people, people don't know what we're talking about, right? So in Transformers, there was the human protagonist was his son and daughter. Sorry, son and father who died. You and spike, right? Yeah. And at some point, they. But in order for them to remain interesting while Transformers are fighting each other, right, they have to make them into that a little transformers, because then as a human, as a boy, you're like, I'd love an X.

00:19:06:20 – 00:19:24:24
I see, because I, you used to get into it and then he'd start driving around. Yeah. And these x, you see that would become like a little car. You wanted nothing else in the world but to be Daniel at that point, I as a kid, I would like almost pray when I was going to bed that I'd wake up as a transformer.

00:19:25:00 – 00:19:49:00
Yeah. And I'd be so disappointed when I wake up and I'm like, oh God, I've got to live in this body again. Great. Fucking nice one. Flesh and bones. What load of shit do you like? With, when Transformers. And what you talking about? The advent of, That was back when, that used to be played on, do you remember the program DJ Cat?

00:19:49:02 – 00:20:10:08
No. So he, say, D.J. Cat was obviously this puppet cat, and he would be presenting the show. I fucking hate puppets. Scikit-Learn. And, they used to do, like, games on there and and stuff like that. It was, I did used to love DJ Cat. What about if I can I interest you in Inspector Gadget? Kind of.

00:20:10:09 – 00:20:30:07
Yeah. I thought it was all right. I, I didn't hate it. Like, can I keep it on the cat theme? It wasn't top cat when Tom Cat used to. Come on, I like. Oh, okay. Okay. So so so. Yeah. If you tell me Inspector Gadget or Top Cat, I've got an Inspector Gadget all day long. You know what I'm not doing?

00:20:30:07 – 00:20:47:19
Now, let me ask you a question, Eric, I think I got it. I'll move on slightly, though. We can go back to Inspector Gadget if you want to. Pink Panther, was it for kids or not? What the fuck, man? I was so confused on. So, like, show me the cartoon bit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Which is it?

00:20:47:21 – 00:21:13:14
The Pink Panther, it was just the introduction, wasn't it? With the pink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that pink. That was just. It wasn't a cartoon character finale. It was just the way they animated the start of the show. Yeah, I think right in my head as a kid, Pink Panther was a cartoon big pink cat. But the Pink Panther was the actual detective, right, I think.

00:21:13:14 – 00:21:36:10
No, actually, I'm not fucking about you now, do I? Do you know it? And then they put them when they put out the films. So it's very, human led. It was actual an actual film, weren't it? Yeah. No shit. Yeah, it's. Yeah, that was rubbish. It was Inspector Clouseau. Yeah. Hang on. It says a bumbling Inspector Clouseau must solve the murder of a famous.

00:21:36:12 – 00:22:00:05
Oh, this is a new one. Anyway, it was very confusing as a kid, and I didn't have the patience. And as soon as it went to live action and not cartoon, I turned that fucker off. Because sometimes they. I'm pretty sure there was a cartoon with Pink Panther as well, if I remember. Yeah, I can always hear and I can see it, so I, I wasn't that into Pink Panther and it was I'm not really up.

00:22:00:07 – 00:22:21:00
What did you say about Inspector Gadget or Inspector Gadget? I loved Inspector Gadget just because he like I like his trenchcoat. Yeah, that that was cool. And it had. And he did have a lot of gadgets. And I quite liked the, the nemesis in that I think was. Yeah, cool. And that's cool or something like that. Yeah.

00:22:21:06 – 00:22:35:06
Like that cat that, that was call it a were you like a lot of my mates like Transformers was, was they were the guys for me. Wasn't me. I think most.

00:22:35:08 – 00:22:51:02
Well, you're going to say oh couple. I really used to like, go I think I know what you going to say, but what you what do you think? It used to annoy me when people would do this. And you're going to annoy me now you're going to say fun. I like to friendly cats, man. Fuck. You know, I had funny toys.

00:22:51:03 – 00:23:08:21
I was all up in fun to cat toys and younger than that, He-Man. He's a big fan of He-Man and as a kid, that was my next one. He-Man. I just have to. He-Man. If, you know, I love more than both of those, mask. Fuck yeah. Yeah, yeah, let's let's play a little game of thought of a brilliant game.

00:23:08:21 – 00:23:34:20
Right? You're you're okay. Only only one of us are really going to enjoy. Right? Right. Brilliant. All right. I want you to sing me or mumble the theme tune of ThunderCats, and I'm going to play it to see if you're correct. God, I can't remember it. I know, let's see. Scenario. It used to go. Thunder, Thunder, ThunderCats.

00:23:34:22 – 00:24:01:03
That's it, that's it. Is that all you got? So I got what? Thunder. Thunder. ThunderCats. Right. If it's right, is it? No, I don't think so. No, I'm. No. Isn't it Thunder? Thunder Thunder Thunder. Cats. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So try it. So play it. Yeah. Good.

00:24:01:05 – 00:24:16:02
Fucking fuck up, Mr. Cat. Hey.

00:24:16:04 – 00:24:45:17
I'm sorry. I'm. I get some fun. The cats are on the move. Fun. The cats are loose, remember? I do remember that. Yes. Hey, everyone. I think most people were ThunderCats over Transformers. Well, England. Judge, you know what is interesting about all this, Ricky, is because all of these programs and it kind of it was hurt to here, it really.

00:24:45:19 – 00:25:06:23
But if you remember the Netflix show the to see the cartoons that made us something like that. No I don't I bet you love it if it's probably still on Netflix. So they do they do ThunderCats, they do Transformers. And it tells you about how these products were formed. Oh, made maybe don't. But it's a little bit soul destroying.

00:25:07:00 – 00:25:34:00
Time. Right. I'm going to watch it now. I'm definitely gonna watch it. It's really interesting as an adult, I thinking like, I mean, obviously I wouldn't see cartoons now, but do they do cartoons like they yeasty no they don't. And and it's for this reason I'm about to say Transformers. You know why there is a Transformers cartoon show I believe I do that they they created the toy first.

00:25:34:02 – 00:25:54:21
Yeah. And they just sell the toy. They created the animated space animated series after it. Yeah. That's true. They designed the carrot, they designed the toy first, and then they did a TV show. And if it's popular, the toys sell, go through the roof. That's fucking mental. Why? Why did they do it that way round was man. But what happens if he made a toy, you know.

00:25:54:22 – 00:26:19:05
And then he did an animated series after he just bombed David Moore? No, they don't make the toy that they've got all of the toys made. And then hope it works. Have ordered the. So yeah. So this just someone just with a warehouse full of trash like like this TV show takes off like the work goes into the TV show, but they have the plans for the toys, and then they make the toys, right?

00:26:19:06 – 00:26:43:18
TV shows a success, right? Okay, that makes sense. And so. And and and you know why I think just come back to your point about ThunderCats being more popular than Transformers. Yeah. I genuinely believe is that the ThunderCats toys were less fussy. They were easier to play with. They were less likely to break. Yeah. Just when you had and He-Man the same.

00:26:43:18 – 00:27:03:17
They were sort of sturdy and they felt good. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Battle Cat and Panther. It's a puppet. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So they would just looked cool, didn't they? And He-Man figures and skeletons sat on top of them. Yeah, I did have those figures as well. And they were like you could smash them about a guy about the gap.

00:27:03:17 – 00:27:27:16
And I'd like nothing would happen because it was just it was no moving part. So nothing could really bright create. What would Transformers they would I mean, you could transform them, but you would have to get the mechanics quite right each time. Otherwise, I mean, otherwise it just be a robot and they just wouldn't work. Also, if you don't transform them properly, bits, bits of plastic things off them.

00:27:27:18 – 00:27:48:07
Yeah. Are you complicated to to to play with. Yeah I remember I had, a robot called cop. Now if you've seen that, if you've seen the film, you know, cop was. But I went to transform him and something broken his leg and then he had no tension in his legs. So it's just a wobbly leg. And he couldn't stand up.

00:27:48:12 – 00:28:17:10
He couldn't transform. And I was like, what am I going to fucking do with this? Like cop in the movie? Yeah, yeah. Weirdly, I never was fucking injured in his backers and maybe that's what they did it. Maybe that's why they did it. Yeah. Leave it up to the to other, TV programs in the 80s and in our youth now with the animated series, I was quite like, I know where I'm at with that, because that's all I ever used to watch.

00:28:17:12 – 00:28:46:17
Now I'm going to read you the top ten UK kids programs. And if there's any that jump out, let me know. Top ten 80s UK programs. Yeah. For kids. For kids. Yeah. Number one, Grange Hill number two or twin zero. Let's see, I was too young for all of that stuff. I didn't really get into it wasn't really my wasn't really my bag.

00:28:46:17 – 00:29:09:05
I knew of Grange Hill and I knew it. I know I never watched it. I knew about the big storylines. I was like, that died of a drug overdose. It was during I see. Do you remember the war on drugs in the 80s? You probably won't remember that, right? No massive thing, a huge commotion. It was fronted up by, Reagan, Nancy Reagan.

00:29:09:07 – 00:29:29:04
Fucking right. She had nothing to do with the, the war on drugs. Anything else? It's almost like it's, almost as bad as Putin invading Ukraine. Right? You're having an age. Just enjoy your life. You don't need to do a war on drugs. You're not going to win. And to this day, no one's won anyway. It was a wave of popularity.

00:29:29:04 – 00:29:47:00
And just say no drama, just say no campaign. Say, I know that. I know that campaign and I know the names you probably heard just say no in your school. It was a it was a government led initiative. And I think that Grange Hill really took onto it. But as we know, as human beings, both of us, as kids, the fast machine people don't want to say no.

00:29:47:03 – 00:30:05:06
They want to go, oh, what's that? Let me try that. So this is just this kind of prohibition bullshit that that just means that they ignore the fact that a human being has desires, wants, and hopes get them just to say no to everything. And you're 14 years old, you know, this is fucking boring. I don't want to say no to anything.

00:30:05:08 – 00:30:29:16
Give me that dick. Give me them tits and that kid. That's what you like at 1516, you got to figure out what you like. So. Yeah. Great. Until. Yeah. An insight. Yeah. Heroin overdose in the school bathroom or something. Oh, cool. Really? I'm glad I'm fucking much out. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Second one, Blue Peter. I mean, Blue Peter was wasn't blue.

00:30:29:17 – 00:30:53:07
I mean, I mean, I, I, I fancy one of the presenters who did you fancy? I think her name was, Katie. Katie. I mean, I don't even know if you could tell me her full name, and I wouldn't know. Who was this in the 80s? Maybe this would have been brushing into the 90s. Now, Kate Cahill, maybe, The Muppet Show is number three.

00:30:53:07 – 00:31:12:22
Didn't really get into that either. Right? Like it was a muppet show. American. Yeah. Sesame Street when it, Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I really, I remember do you remember Fraggle Rock? That's number ten, right? Also. Shit. Yeah. Right. But good grade, I think, was a hangover from the 70s, Fraggle Rock, when puppets were a big thing.

00:31:12:24 – 00:31:31:22
But there was a bit in Fraggle Rock in the intro, which I really liked was. Okay. Yeah, the rock. And you could see the Fraggle was, working and digging in that. Do you remember? I, it's a there's a bit when it comes to Fraggle Rock. Yeah, I don't I'm so swinging in the ass in some remote.

00:31:31:22 – 00:31:52:00
Grab a fractal bicycle, swing him in the air like you don't care. That's what you sing as a kid. But there was a cut away from the Muppets bit, and then it went into a bit of the rock. And inside the rock, they were tiny little Fraggle Rock, and they were excavating and digging and working and like, why were they doing that?

00:31:52:02 – 00:32:08:20
That was what their job is to excavate and dig into the rock and that, okay. So I like that bit with the machines. I think it was the machines thing that was really into as a kid. I think this is, it was just that bit that you liked. That's fair. I just watched that five seconds of footage, and that was it.

00:32:08:22 – 00:32:36:10
Good. Number four ThunderCats. Yep. Five super dead. I remember it didn't really do anything for me, and it was just shit number six, postman Pat. So I didn't watch Postman Part for the intro. A postman fucking love that. Yeah. They say why? It's just him driving about, going through the hills and stuff like that and I like and stuff like that.

00:32:36:12 – 00:32:57:22
And the car fits so neatly in. Yeah, I was actually I was like, that's really satisfying to look at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then and then the show starts and he's not in his car anymore. It's just walking around talking to some fucking old woman about post. Yeah, it was, it was, it was just everyday chat. You had the world in the world in the palm of your hand post and pat.

00:32:57:24 – 00:33:25:05
Stay in the car, drive around Fox eight. Yeah, I know you just get out and just be like, how are you today, Lynn? Yeah, yeah. I'm good. Yeah, I've been a bit busy. I need more time of eight of eight. You know, it was shit. Danger mouse. No, no! Back! Push! No, no. Hey, man. And, Fraggle Rock.

00:33:25:05 – 00:33:54:18
And then there's honorable mentions that weren't in there. Rainbow I like rainbow. I mean, no, rainbow is, you know, George Cup bungalow. And. Yeah, these were all early 80s, I reckon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me that that's what all of it. And then, trapdoor. That was fucking quality. So that was, that was a stop. But anyone that doesn't know trapdoor, it's like a stop motion.

00:33:54:20 – 00:34:17:02
Just a program that was made out of Play-Doh. Plasticine. Yeah, I enjoyed that. Really love that. And this one. I think this must have been late 80s. I absolutely fucking loved it. It was like a quiz show. Game show called nightmare. Yeah. We all want it to be a nightmare. All of us. It was a nightmare.

00:34:17:02 – 00:34:41:10
Describe it. Right. So it was like a kids. It's like a carnival. If it was it like a virtual reality type game show and the kids would wear, like, helmets, so the helmet would be so the kid couldn't see, right? It was. It sounded like it was a blindfold, but it was just really. But it'd be extravagant. It just put a pin on this kid's head and he couldn't see.

00:34:41:12 – 00:35:04:06
And there was a round where he had a team behind him who were watching him through a monitor. You know, as well as kids, you just thought, he's in this world. It's amazing. What's his kid doing world as an adult? You know, they just have a green screen pulled down in front of him. He had a pin on his head so he couldn't see the green screen to keep the illusion alive.

00:35:04:08 – 00:35:25:07
And then his teammates would guide him through a level. So on this green screen, it's superimposed like a bit of fire, a waterfall and a door that they had to get through and they had to negotiate. He has to listen to the instruction from his teammates who are watching for a monitor. Go going. Take a step to your right.

00:35:25:09 – 00:35:49:21
It's rotate 90 degrees to your right for two steps. But what was great about it is these are fucking teenage kids. They know what they're doing. They keep making mistakes. They might know that you them. And it was cool. It would you say it when they say, I'll take a step forward and be like behind them and then fall off a bridge or something like that, and you're like, God awful.

00:35:49:23 – 00:36:09:24
Moving swiftly on to the 90s now, do you remember these are the top ten in the 90s? The demon headmaster? No, I do remember it, but I never watched it as good art attack. Never watched it, I mean, Teletubbies, I think I was made out of that. Yeah. Byker Grove. If it was on, I'd never sort of sit down to watch it.

00:36:09:24 – 00:36:29:11
No, the Queen's nose. Never heard of it. Do you know, a lot of you used to rub a little 50 up in that? And, No, I don't know the animals of Farthing Wood. What the fuck was that? I remember that that was again, it's shitty. Like, if you're going to make a cartoon, don't make it about animals in a wood.

00:36:29:13 – 00:36:48:04
Like, there's nothing interesting about that. They've got haven't got guns and they don't drive cars. I think I wonder if it's off, if it's aimed at girls and boys like Transformers that many girls sat down on what Transformers and one you've missed is my favorite as well, by the way. Mosque. Oh, my favorite. But most. Yeah, that wasn't even in there.

00:36:48:06 – 00:37:06:10
Well, that's my niece, but they they used to put helmets on and they could fly. Remember that. Yes. Yeah. And there was one, there was a little the kids, little robot friend was called Tebow Bunny. Yeah. And it got a little iPad. It's a little moped. Yeah. And I think I'm a little teapot. Yeah, yeah that's it. Right.

00:37:06:12 – 00:37:26:13
But this is the thing is I wonder what like, you know, when society was much simpler back then, wasn't it, Ricky? Because. Yeah, boys like this and girls like this. But now they're saying it's fine for girls to like Transformers. It is. Yeah, but do they? Well, I know it was very much. You've got my little Pony. Yeah.

00:37:26:19 – 00:37:51:07
Barbie. We've got. Yeah, Bob. And we've got Transformers. And keep yourself to yourself. We'll keep us for ourselves. Key. Keep your hands off my Transformers face because you don't understand it. Yeah, you don't ask to transform. It's. I just keep your hands to yourself. I'm not going to touch nappies and. Late night 90s. Right. Funhouse.

00:37:51:09 – 00:38:17:03
The game show. Yeah. Love. Funhouse. Amazing. Get your own back and nose house party. Those how what got, all of these programs right for kids? You get garnished with slime. It's like the physical quizzes, and you have to take part. I mean, I don't I don't I don't watch kids TV anymore, obviously. Where is that all gone from the TV?

00:38:17:05 – 00:38:36:22
I don't know, I think like, I don't know what it is that they are watching though. I don't know. I don't think they are. Kids are watching TV. I don't think there's much investment going into cartoons and children like like little kids. Little kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the PBS. Yeah yeah yeah. Is it night? God. And then the the Teletubbies is still going, like so.

00:38:36:23 – 00:38:54:06
Yeah. All of my family, all my brothers have all got really young kids ranging from like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, two up to eight. So all of that is on there now on Into the Night Garden and all that sort of stuff. Mr. tumble yeah, it's obviously not right. Yeah, there he is. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.

00:38:54:06 – 00:39:14:23
I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. This. Yeah, definitely no less that you can't say that. And I can't say that, but yeah, it's it's. You know, if you're walking around, but then he's fucking raking in. Yes. Do you know this is and this is, this is the thing. This is where entertainment is gone.

00:39:14:23 – 00:39:39:04
It's gone online and it's gone on YouTube. Know kids watching other kids open toys and play with toys on YouTube. And you know how much money they're making a fortune. And you know why they're making it? Because clean content, the CPM is through the roof. They're pushing products. And these these child based YouTube channels are making what TV companies used to make in the past massive amounts of money.

00:39:39:06 – 00:40:02:04
My, so my kids, when they were, when they were younger not not so much now, but they were fully in they were ten toes in with with the YouTubers. What do they like? So I cut Tiana. Her name was Tiana. For my youngest kid, I had to buy, Well, we bought Tiana, bedspread for her.

00:40:02:06 – 00:40:28:04
Absolutely loved it. And then my eldest, she is into the Australian family. I can't remember what their fucking name is, but there's there's quite a lot of them, and they stuff and. Yeah. Yeah. And they, they just they absolutely love it. I don't think she watches it as much anymore. But you're right, everything has moved over to a kind of YouTube and it's these tick tock now.

00:40:28:06 – 00:40:49:13
Yeah. These young, content creators and and it's not even. It's not that the adults are getting in on the ads are making their kids get better. YouTuber. Yeah. Just so that they can not creaming the profit. What what were your thoughts about, I kind of like this is like 90s now because it wouldn't have happened in the 80s.

00:40:49:15 – 00:41:12:09
The influx of American teeny type TV shows like, sister. Sister. Yeah. Well, as I was getting up, I fancied all of them was because I was the same age. That's right. There you go. So I didn't mind it. I used to love saved by the Bell. I mean, saved by the Bell was my favorite. I think. Yeah.

00:41:12:11 – 00:41:36:03
When I wake up in the morning. No. What is it? I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you the thing. Right? Because, saved by the bell. I see, and I know that a bit, but saved by the bell. Again. Yeah. You're right. When I was younger, I know, but I don't know if I would have been how much I would have been developing by then, but,

00:41:36:05 – 00:41:54:02
I've been a horny little toad by then. I didn't know what it was, but in no way did. You didn't know it was about. Is that why she was Kelly so sexy? Why do I get. Yeah. Whenever exactly. I, you know, I, I did love Kelly as well, I did Kelly was is is Kelly the one? I was a bit of a moon face.

00:41:54:04 – 00:42:13:12
Big round. Oh, I don't know why. I don't know if you'd call it a big, round moon face, but but I think that's the that's that's the one that. Yeah. That you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah I believe so. Yeah. There's sort of three of them. You've got to go. You've got. Yeah. Go. That was in later in showgirls Elizabeth Berkley.

00:42:13:14 – 00:42:35:23
Yes. It's you know takes quite a lot right. Yeah. And then Kelly was the other one was. Yeah. Katie Kopecky. Yeah. You. That was it. Yeah. Ray. Absolutely. Bring something for you, sister. Sister. I don't remember sister. Really, but, But the other one was Sweet Valley High. Sweet. Oh, my God, I haven't till about Sweet Valley High.

00:42:35:23 – 00:42:45:13
God knows how. Look at it. How? You can see there's a beauty stand in. Is she really every with perfect.

00:42:45:15 – 00:43:20:05
There's also I mean I've, I've already professed my love for Sabrina the teenage witch. Still love her and I loved watching it because I was watching her then obviously sister. Sister saved by the Bell. It was a program as well that I used to watch, and I don't know if you'd remember it called us say hi. It was, it was basically, they there was like six people and they all attended, an international school in Paris, and there's about four Americans, a pretend Brit.

00:43:20:05 – 00:43:41:08
And someone else used to love it. Absolutely love it. That was top TV as well. Hang time. Hang. Oh my God, hang time, hang time. So good at this podcast, essentially just a listing of things that people like, I know I, I'm, I'm actually, Teddy. Teddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love to hang time and hang on to the oldest sport related stuff.

00:43:41:08 – 00:44:08:09
Really sort of used to resonate with me. Hang time. The hurricanes. I used to watch quite a lot of the hurricanes. Now, I think Brentford rejects the Brentford rejects quite like. Love that. I think we'll, we'll leave the, the 90s, TV programs there because I've just got the lyrics for saved by the Bell Girl, and then I'm gonna sing them for you.

00:44:08:11 – 00:44:27:01
Yeah. Play. Stay ready. When I wake up. When I wake up in the morning and the lock is out a warning I don't think I'm gonna make it on time. By the time I grab my books and I give myself a look, I'm at the corner. Just in time to see the birds fly by. It's all right. Because I'm saved by the bell.

00:44:27:01 – 00:45:02:00
Yeah. I love that, that is. That is amazing. Right? We are. We are going to go on to dilemmas and something none of you know, dilemmas is called whisked away. And something of, you know, is I want at least ten big cocks. Okay. Nail on the head. That is. Yeah. That is something. Now next week, the topic that we are going to do psychedelics now, have you taken them.

00:45:02:02 – 00:45:26:20
Yes. We want to hear from you. Is it something you plan in the future? Now I have a mate who is straight laced. No drugs, not drinks, but like, you know, when we meet up and stuff like, he's never had never shown an interest in any of that of, the dark arts. But he's recently on a night out.

00:45:26:22 – 00:45:51:02
Give me a little tap on the elbow. He's quiz me about psychedelics. He's gone to the latest stage of life, and he wants to know what it's about, how he can get hold of them. What do they do? Is there a part of the brain that he opens up? And you can process stuff? We'll talk about all of that stuff, and I know just the person to talk about then who has taken quite a few.

00:45:51:02 – 00:46:13:24
And I'm doing a podcast with you now. Yeah. So that is going to be next week's topic. If you have anything, send it over to lads anon pod at gmail.com. And we're going to go into dilemmas.

00:46:14:01 – 00:46:46:20
Oh just just tired. You got an issue for a tissue? You a bitch. I will teach you a aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve this. Like you're safe here to get nice. And between breaking your and. Right. Because, mum, this beautiful cat shows up at my house not older than a year.

00:46:46:22 – 00:47:10:12
He showed up at all hours of the day and night looking for strokes and love, and was always eager to have food and water. Sometimes he'd show up at 1130 at night asking for food. Two weeks ago I asked my next door neighbor whose it was and she didn't know. My missus and I decided to take the cat in and shout and shout when it showed up at the door again.

00:47:10:12 – 00:47:13:07
So excuse me.

00:47:13:09 – 00:47:35:10
We got a proper food, a litter box which it uses and it seems to have gained some weight and it's looking noticeably healthy. The other day, my other next door neighbor from across the street told me that it belonged to someone in a block of flats around the corner. My heart sank. Do I have to give this cat back?

00:47:35:12 – 00:48:01:24
What do I do now? You don't have to because animal cats choose where they want to live. Yeah, my my very first cat, Ginger. One we named Leonardo. That was back in the 90s. They like teenage, Ninja Turtles was, was, you know, that that was my thing back then. It just used to turn up at our back door and I could hear it purring.

00:48:02:01 – 00:48:28:16
We we opened the back door and it came in tentatively stroked it. It was fine. Didn't scratches or anything. The next day these fucking turned up again and need Leonardo. Then we gave it some food, some water. Our cat. Now this is us and he stays stayed until he was brown bread. But I didn't actually see him die though, so he could have gone to another family.

00:48:28:22 – 00:48:49:12
That's just what they do. Just what they do. Cat went off to die about two weeks ago, said, read that thing. I remember doing a pod with you, like maybe a year ago. Enough. I thought it was dying. Yeah. It was. It survived for another year. Had a heart failure, but then it just it ran off and saved us a big deal about going to the vet and stuff.

00:48:49:12 – 00:49:17:05
Really just ran off to die on its own. Poor bugger. Yeah. So with this cat, if if it's there and it's yours and it's in there, I would continue to, to love it and take care of it. But if it does have any distinguishable marks on it or fur pattern where someone is going to say, that is my fucking cat and it's undisputedly their cat, then maybe, you know, give it back.

00:49:17:07 – 00:49:33:21
But cats are cats, man. It doesn't matter if you give it back, it's coming back whether you like it or not. Would you mean it? The the cat's going to come back as soon as you let it out. It's going to come back to you. So it's not your problem. Some might say stuff. You just say, well, I've stopped feeding it.

00:49:33:21 – 00:49:54:17
I haven't been feeding it, but just feed it if you want to start coming, I, I mean, if you stop feeding my cat. Please. I'm not feeding her. But you want. Something only you know is you're feeding the cat. But don't tell anyone. You're feeding the cat as one. Fuck cat now. Yeah, your cat is your cat, right?

00:49:54:19 – 00:50:01:18
We are going to go into something only you know. Next.

00:50:01:20 – 00:50:30:23
Something, you you know, you. This is called. I want at least ten big cocks. It's similar to the theme of, something only, you know, on a previous pod. I mean, some mates are out in Paris on the pissing gear. Ended up in a club which none of us knew was a gay bar. We paid to get in and were given a drink with entry, so I thought we might as well hang around for a bit.

00:50:31:00 – 00:51:00:05
None of us really knew where else to go and what time anything would be open till my mates went to the toilet to do some gear. So I went for a wander and was approached, but at the time I thought was possibly a woman, as he was all dressed up in makeup in a week, he told me that there was a room where we could go and he'd suck me off, or in the morning drunk and get up.

00:51:00:07 – 00:51:03:03
I followed.

00:51:03:05 – 00:51:32:08
We went behind this curtain and there was at least 20 people in there fucking and getting sucked off. I had my trousers pulled down within seconds and then had to, like, suck it me up. I could barely get hard. I think it was a combination of the gear and also what was happening around me. And to me, this bloke, the one with the wig said come back to mine and fuck me.

00:51:32:10 – 00:51:58:04
So I followed, but that's when not. But no part of that is he sees a guy I know part of what has been of I'd say, man, he's got all right. Yeah, I'll go with you. As we were heading towards the exit, he grabbed several other men to go with him. Now we're in the street and at least four of us, plus him.

00:51:58:06 – 00:52:21:10
He was shouting at random men in the street, asking them to come home and to fuck him, shouting, I want at least ten big cocks! I think he managed to get another 2 or 3 along the way. About ten minutes into the walk, I got the fear and I couldn't think of anything worse. All I wanted to do was go home, go back to my bed.

00:52:21:16 – 00:52:45:10
So I walked in another direction. I love to fuck. I love that he's walking long and he's looking around. We just maybe might have been a bit of small talk with the other men the following day, and eventually he's gone. What am I doing? The bloke in the wig proceeded to shout abuse at me, calling me a pussy and God knows what else.

00:52:45:12 – 00:53:07:07
I didn't care. I was out of there and that is something only I know. There's so many questions I have about that. It's fucking the bit where he's like again, like you just say he was walking ten minutes down the road with them. Look at three minutes. It was it was all right. There was probably smoking cigarets just like, oh, where are you from?

00:53:07:07 – 00:53:28:14
I'm from England. I where are you? Just from a suburb in Paris. All right. I'm going to go back and take this geezer away. Yeah. And then ten minutes, he's just thought, you know. Well. And I've been walking long enough. I've had a check after you as well. Yes. And he's well in the club to geezer sucking him up a chance.

00:53:28:15 – 00:53:50:00
I came up with my I thought if it's going to be the guy with the wig on. Okay, I can see where the lines get blurred. It's 4:00 in the morning. You've done Ozark? Yeah. You've drunk loads of beer. I can understand why you went off piste with that one. But then there's two geezers there. There's two geezers, which is just absolutely right.

00:53:50:01 – 00:54:28:22
It's just done. Me. So thank you very much for sending. And anybody else, if you have a dilemma or something only you know, please send those in to lads and on pod at gmail.com. And don't forget next week's topic is going to be psychedelics. So if you've got any stories, any questions about psychedelics like you thought about doing it yourself but you're too scared, send them in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will see you next Monday.

00:54:28:24 – 00:54:53:15
On the night hazy light band of brothers playing tunes. Hi is quiet. Midnight waves surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Lover music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is how we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.