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Ricky: Oh, dearie me. Oh, dearie me. Oh, dear. you You're a good person to speak about this, actually, right? i i I spoke to you yesterday. Did I speak you yesterday? Don't know. Don't care.

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Ricky: Building work on my house yesterday, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: You've had lots of building work done on your house. You've had, like, literally for the past eight years, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. ah I'm feeling anxious even at the beginning this conversation, yeah.

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Ricky: Right, okay. Did you ever have a scenario where you felt that you were unhappy with the workmanship?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, like bits and pieces, but yeah.

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Ricky: what what What did you do in that in that situation? Did you do the British thing of, yeah, that's great, mate, that's great. And then as soon as he left, you turned around to your wife and said,

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Ricky: Have you noticed that he's not done that bit there? Or I'm not particularly happy with that. or were you grown up about and say, that's really great, but.

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Gareth Flavell: ah Yeah, no, I think he did so much good stuff that the tiny little things that I weren't 100% on, I just thought I just don't have the energy to get into this situation.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Because like, it's so much better than I imagined it would be.

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Ricky: Right. Okay. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: So I'm like, yeah, not everything is going to be done.

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Ricky: Yeah. yeah

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Gareth Flavell: can't even think about the stuff I might not. I can't think of anything. anything actually, but there was like a little gap between, we had little we to have these stairs rebuilt, little stairs that go from the, you'll see it, but like the front room into the living room.

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Ricky: Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: um And there's like a gap between the tiles.

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Ricky: yeah

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Gareth Flavell: And maybe the top some of the flooring in the other lounges is, it's sort of a bit bouncy in places.

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Ricky: Right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: But I'm not going to get him to tear it all up and put it back down because it's a bit bouncy in place. I just live with it. It's not a problem. but what What's happened, Rick?

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Ricky: Well, I mean, like, i don't want to be too ah disparaging to this gentleman. He was recommended to me by my mother. ah my My dad has used him, my uncle, my cousin.

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Ricky: but but He's been with the family for for years, might I add.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, and they've never had a problem with him.

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Ricky: Never had a problem with him.

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Gareth Flavell: It might be you, Rick.

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Ricky: ah ah Do you know what? i knew you were going side for him. I knew straight away. I knew before I even opened my mouth, I knew you were going swallow it, Rick.

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Gareth Flavell: what what what's what's What was the outlier here? What's the outlier, Rick?

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Ricky: Swallow it.

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Gareth Flavell: What's the outlier here? You.

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Ricky: Well, no, no, no.

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Gareth Flavell: When everyone else is happy, you're the one that's not happy.

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Ricky: My missus as well.

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Gareth Flavell: yeah i need i

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Ricky: My missus agrees.

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Gareth Flavell: I need to see photo evidence. i want to see some stuff.

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Ricky: Right. Fine. You will. You will. You'll see.

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Gareth Flavell: When? but in the in the Run up there now.

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Ricky: I,

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Gareth Flavell: take pictures.

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Ricky: No,

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Gareth Flavell: what What is it?

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Ricky: no.

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Gareth Flavell: What has he done wrong?

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Ricky: So it's line of floor in my ensuite, just re relaying it.

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Gareth Flavell: Right.

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Ricky: And I don't think he's used like the the sticky spray or the stickiness to stick it down. So it's just where it's been rolled up, it's just come back up again.

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Ricky: So there's like loads of fucking bubble patches everywhere. And then the way you used the the corking around to seal everything to the skirt it's just really, someone that's been doing this, well, working in my family for 30 years and does this full time, I just thought maybe I could, I mean, corking's hard, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Ah. Mm.

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Ricky: I'm not going to, do you know what? umll I'll let him go on that. But then there are other things.

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Gareth Flavell: Hang on a minute.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: What what what is corking? is it Is it when you put the sealant in the cork?

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Ricky: Yeah, the sealant thing.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah. ah

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Gareth Flavell: I mean, is it hard?

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Ricky: It's sticky. well I mean, it's…

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Gareth Flavell: It's like for for sort but a decades-long, career-long builder. Is it was hard?

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Ricky: Sure. that this this is These are the questions I have.

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Gareth Flavell: yeah I need to see a picture, Ricky.

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Ricky: And what while while he was here, right, I will send you a picture.

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Gareth Flavell: You can't… you can't ah want to so No, run up there. Take a picture now.

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Ricky: You really what you want it now, do you?

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Gareth Flavell: I think the only way, because I've got your embellished version of this, I'll need the truth, and I'll tell you what to do.

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Ricky: Right. Right, okay. Right, right, right. Give me two seconds, right? Two seconds.

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Gareth Flavell: Right, and now and when I'll tell you what going to is ah we, me, and the listeners, we're just going to sit in silence with each other, and and and and think we're going to do an appraisal.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Everyone listen. Go on, Rick, go. I've got this.

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Ricky: but Why don't you play the jingle and then…

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Gareth Flavell: Okay. Well, yeah if if there is any, I want you to, just fuck off, Rick.

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Ricky: Right.

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Gareth Flavell: Go and take the picture.

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Ricky: right

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Gareth Flavell: Right, everybody at home, just take this moment to be silent and close your eyes and breathe.

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Gareth Flavell: Breathe and relax. And think about three things in your life that make you happy, that you're grateful for, that you're lucky to have.

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Gareth Flavell: Breathe and relax. Think about your loved ones. Think about the fact that you get to get into a warm bed at night.

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Gareth Flavell: Think about all the amazing things that are happening in your life. There's bad things. There's difficult things. There's problems where you all got them. But right now, that's not what this is about.

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Gareth Flavell: Right now, this is about you appreciating everything wonderful in your life.

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Ricky: Oh, Jerry, man, you're such a schwatt.

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Ricky: Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous, it's episode 149. I'm Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates, one main topic. We answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature, Something Only You Know, and everything remains anonymous.

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Ricky: Always, so sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. I'm out breath, running up and down my stairs.

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Gareth Flavell: um Right.

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Ricky: Fuck.

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Gareth Flavell: So, yeah,

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Ricky: Right, you can see that, yeah?

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Gareth Flavell: yeah the corking looks okay. There's a little bit of a smudge on one bit, but it's not.

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Ricky: Right, okay, you know the picture where my finger is, okay?

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Gareth Flavell: you

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Gareth Flavell: I can see the bubble.

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Ricky: Right, you can see the bubble, right? And the corking, look at this, like, around it, come on, man! Fucking hell!

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, ah sorry, I was looking at the toilet. That's probably what he didn't do. He didn't do that, did he? i see with but The first picture you sent, the bubble, did he do that?

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Ricky: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, what exactly?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, that bit's all right. the cool the The bit on the wall is awful.

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Ricky: And the bit between the toilet and the sink, you know, you can see that yeah the bubble.

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Gareth Flavell: It's a bubble.

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Ricky: like what What's that doing there?

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Gareth Flavell: Will it settle down, maybe? Yeah.

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Ricky: No. And then the um other side bubble. Then can you see the wall picture as well? I had a towel rail there.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: We took it out. I think he hasn't even pulled the the the rule plugs out. And he's just thought, fuck it. I'm going to feel that. And then that's it. That's what I've got.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: That's not on, is it?

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Gareth Flavell: What you going to do, Rick? No, it ain't. In terms of the stuff that I might have been slightly critical of…

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Ricky: Right, now back me. Apologize to me. So you're right to you right to have ah to raise your eyebrows at this workmanship.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I do apologise, Ricky. Now that I've seen the evidence, i yeah I am fully behind your right. So what you to

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Ricky: I don't know. ah By the way, people in ah Discord, I will post this for you. um Yeah, I i mean, he's he is back next Thursday or Friday, right?

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Ricky: um Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh.

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Ricky: Yeah. And and that that the thing is as well,

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Gareth Flavell: You want him back or are you going to tell him though, rick What are you going to do?

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Ricky: I don't see this is it.

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Gareth Flavell: It's not, this the English situation, is it?

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Ricky: When I had the ensuite done shower, It was a whole rip out and it was a whole fucking new thing. And we're talking grand here, right? A lot of money.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: I mean, for you, fucking God knows how much you spent. But I would be so, um what's the word? it's Because you've you've put a lot of money in there and if it isn't perfect or it's not done to a certain standard, I would i would have to i was ah be compelled to be like,

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Ricky: I'm actually not happy with that. I've just paid you six grand to do a new shower suite. And i don't feel that's X, Y, ed And back then when the shower was being done, I did go back and I went back twice and they came back out, they apologized and then they, um, they rectified the work, but this is being done at a cheaper rate than,

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Gareth Flavell: awkward.

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Ricky: Yeah, and i think predominantly this guy is a painter decorator.

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Gareth Flavell: How old is he?

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Ricky: He must be mid-50s. No, 60. Yeah. Yeah. sixty

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Gareth Flavell: He must know.

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Ricky: mid fifty sixty

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Gareth Flavell: he must know.

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Ricky: yeah

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Gareth Flavell: i mean, if you're going cheap, what do you expect?

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Ricky: Well, I knew i knew this is is the second thing you'd come up with, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Right.

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Ricky: Okay, so this is…

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Gareth Flavell: Sorry.

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Ricky: No, I've already got it written down.

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Gareth Flavell: Okay.

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Ricky: Flav is going to say this, counterpoint. um But he's coming around next week. that The front of my house, the face, it's got like a a mock Tudor bit at the top, but it's wood, right?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

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Ricky: So the sun beats down on it. It's warped it.

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Gareth Flavell: or

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: Paint's peeling. A looks and eyesore. I couldn't give a fuck, if I'm honest. But my missus is like, you get that sorted and you get it sorted now, right? It's embarrassing to us.

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Gareth Flavell: Take a picture. try I want to see.

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Ricky: I'm not taking a picture that.

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Gareth Flavell: Guys, take a picture.

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Ricky: that. No No, I'm not running again.

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Gareth Flavell: on me what We

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Ricky: ah so i am… So he's coming out to do that. But everyone else that we spoke to, right, they came out and they quoted this insane price.

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Ricky: And i'm like, okay, that's fine.

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Gareth Flavell: what what What was the price?

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Ricky: ah ah It was like a two. Actually, no, it's about one and half, two grand do it.

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Gareth Flavell: Wow.

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Ricky: Because the the reason, scaffolding, it's high up, got a scaffold the fuck out of it.

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Gareth Flavell: Right. Right. Oh, you need scaffolding.

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Ricky: Three people said that. He looked at it. He said, I've got a three-story ladder. If I park my van outside the front of your house, I can prop the ladder against your house, and I can do that myself.

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Ricky: And I was like, ah, lovely jubbly. How much we talking? He told me.

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Gareth Flavell: i was I'm starting to i sorry to see the problem.

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Ricky: Hang on, mate. like Listen, but he if he's been with my family for this long, and they do he does loads of work for them, 700.

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Gareth Flavell: What did he quote you?

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Ricky: You know what mean?

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Gareth Flavell: I mean, things cost

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Ricky: But the thing is as well, the the the other lot that quoted me, the most of the money is the scaffolding. So it's kind of like it's just he's just taking out the middleman of the scaffold and, yeah the safety.

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Gareth Flavell: the The safety of it. and these Yeah, yeah.

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Ricky: I know, but, you know, that's as on him, you know.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. ah Rick, I mean, like they in order to do it properly, they probably need staff scaffolding, right? to have as much control.

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Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: um

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Gareth Flavell: Figure across it does a good job, but there's no guarantee you want 700 quid, is there?

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Ricky: ah No, and the front of the house, the repainting, I i don't give a fuck. Honestly, really don't care.

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Gareth Flavell: I've got repaint all mine.

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Ricky: You what?

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Gareth Flavell: I've got to repaint in front of my house.

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Ricky: ah Really? oh Well, um'm im I'm down in three weeks.

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Gareth Flavell: It just hasn't touched for years. It's just…

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Ricky: Should we do it then?

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Gareth Flavell: No. No. It's a skill.

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Ricky: I'll have a go.

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Gareth Flavell: It's an art. Someone…

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Ricky: Painting is the worst thing ever.

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Gareth Flavell: let it I'm not, especially outdoor, masonry, outdoor paint.

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Ricky: I fucking hate it.

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Gareth Flavell: the There's a geezer, I don't know if this interesting podcasting, but there's a geezer.

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Ricky: Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: He was working on the front of someone's house just along this road where I work. And every day, he was out there about three days and it just got nicer and nicer and nicer. And he finished and i was like, I went past, you have done a fantastic job there, mate. It looks superb.

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Ricky: That's nice.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. um Also, I've got moss on my roof that needs to come down.

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Ricky: ah we can do that.

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Gareth Flavell: But no, I think you need stuff scaffolding for that as well.

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Ricky: ah well i mean, we can just rip it off and lob it in your neighbor's garden and blame it on the birds.

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Gareth Flavell: Don't blame him on a good times. um ah Well, look, I don't know, Rick, what to say. He shouldn't leave, regardless of whether or not he's, you know, undercutting the opposition.

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Gareth Flavell: He…

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Ricky: Yeah, I just don't want a situation where my missus says to me, it's a lot better than it was.

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Gareth Flavell: so Having bubbles…

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Ricky: Right, that's correct. Okay. And then she said, what we could do is we can peel it back up and we can put our own like glue down and we can, you know, screw around and it'll be fine. Right. I can, but that's not what I paid for.

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Ricky: Um, but

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Gareth Flavell: no No, you're probably within, you're you're well within your rights to go, right.

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Ricky: I think I am. I am going to go back, and, yeah, you've convinced me to go back. but By the way, how are how are you? and Enough about me and my DRI, but how how are you?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, all good. I'm quite looking forward to the end of the football season. I can slow, everything slow. I know there's a stress of it, but also the work involved. So yeah, yeah, I'm fine, mate.

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Ricky: Are you were feeling… um

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Gareth Flavell: I'm off to a party tonight, birthday party in London.

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Ricky: Whose party are you going to? Are you fucking kidding me? Whose?

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Gareth Flavell: James Alcott, his 40th.

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Ricky: Jesus Christ.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: He's only 40.

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Gareth Flavell: yeah

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Ricky: You're hanging around with a child. 40? God, imagine being 40. Your 40th birthday. That seems so, so long ago to me.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, so we're just going out um and I'm sure there'll be lots of beer flying around. i'm just kind of little I've got booked a hotel, so I'm kind of anxious.

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Ricky: What? Is it…

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Ricky: are you anxious?

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Gareth Flavell: that I don't know, always get bit anxious before these sort things. but nor I always did, even when i was a kid, I used to.

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Ricky: um Are you going with the wife?

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Gareth Flavell: no she's working.

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Ricky: Oh, okay. so

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Gareth Flavell: She went out of her…

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Ricky: man on the… Big man out on the town?

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Gareth Flavell: when out of a

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, sort of. I'm getting a train, ah meeting a couple of mates.

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Ricky: a couple of… Who are you meeting?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, a bloke Nicky Hawkins.

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Ricky: What, the West Ham?

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Gareth Flavell: Couple of lads? Yeah, Adam Rosenbaum.

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Ricky: Oh. Yes.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah, some good people about.

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Ricky: Yeah, okay. Good. so And where is it?

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Gareth Flavell: quite silver What's to do here?

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Ricky: here

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Ricky: I just want know.

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Gareth Flavell: Don't turn up, be weird.

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Ricky: No, is it?

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Gareth Flavell: LAUGHTER

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Ricky: I wouldn't fucking turn up to that fucking dweeb fest.

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Gareth Flavell: but

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Ricky: Bunch of influencers.

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Gareth Flavell: ah Listen to him. Look, he's jealous.

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Ricky: Fucking hell.

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Gareth Flavell: He's jealous.

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Ricky: ah

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Gareth Flavell: ah at Oxford Street.

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Ricky: Oh, okay, okay.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Ricky: That'd be nice.

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Gareth Flavell: So.

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Ricky: Where's your hotel?

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Gareth Flavell: On Tottenham Court Road.

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Ricky: Fuck me. Okay.

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Gareth Flavell: It was actually quite cheap. It was like the cheapest one I could find. Still 130 quid, but.

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Ricky: um

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Gareth Flavell: Hold up.

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Ricky: Nice.

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Gareth Flavell: o

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Ricky: the um I'll update for you. Last week, I went to Tame Impala.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh, yeah?

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Ricky: Got the hotel, didn't i

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Gareth Flavell: You did get the hotel.

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Ricky: Got the hotel, yeah, yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: Well, how did you wing that?

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Ricky: So basically it turned out we were going to the train on the way back, but for some reason, trains back from Birmingham to Milton Kings only ran until like six minutes past 10. The gig finished at 11.

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Ricky: So we'd never get back.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh.

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Ricky: So I was like, right, let's book a hotel.

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Gareth Flavell: Result. Yeah.

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Ricky: And I've got to this stage in my life where normally what I would have done if I was with my mates or missus, would have got a hotel, cheapest hotel. If it's a 15, 20 minute walk away from the venue or I just have to get a cab and I would do that.

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Ricky: But you know, when you're old and you've had a beer and you're with the wife and you just want to get back to the hotel and you want to get away from the the crowds and stuff. I booked a hotel that was close to the venue and that was close to the party street as well.

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Gareth Flavell: Good.

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Ricky: It was, it was lumpy, but, and I'd never go for it normally.

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Gareth Flavell: Mm. Mm.

00:16:42.03
Ricky: And it was, it was a lovely Hilton hotel. And I got there and there was an espresso machine in my hotel, in my, in my hotel room.

00:16:49.59
Gareth Flavell: did

00:16:50.99
Ricky: I had white robes, slippers,

00:16:53.41
Gareth Flavell: you put them on what straight away is

00:16:54.57
Ricky: Yeah, course I fucking did. Straight away. King of the castle. King of the castle. And I ah upgraded to a delu deluxe king size as well.

00:17:05.18
Gareth Flavell: ab bora that was that so you got a bed massive bed did you sleep well

00:17:06.39
Ricky: Yeah. It was, yeah. yeah

00:17:13.91
Ricky: did Yeah, deluxe. Deluxe king size. Yeah. Yeah, I did, actually. was lovely.

00:17:20.47
Gareth Flavell: Oh, good. So you had a good time?

00:17:21.91
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely lovely.

00:17:23.15
Gareth Flavell: Good for you.

00:17:23.63
Ricky: Yeah.

00:17:24.01
Gareth Flavell: It all worked out.

00:17:24.98
Ricky: All worked out. All worked out. So that's good.

00:17:26.58
Gareth Flavell: Lovely.

00:17:27.50
Ricky: That is good.

00:17:27.74
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:17:28.50
Ricky: So, yeah, just I mean, for anyone that was wondering whether there was going to be Rumpy Pumpy, um yeah, of course it was.

00:17:34.26
Gareth Flavell: What was that?

00:17:36.44
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:36.76
Gareth Flavell: Fair play, mate.

00:17:37.33
Ricky: Yeah, exactly. So we all got what we wanted. Yeah.

00:17:44.66
Ricky: um What was I going to a Voice note.

00:17:50.65
Gareth Flavell: Oh, yeah.

00:17:50.90
Ricky: Don't listen. We've got another one in.

00:17:52.83
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:17:53.14
Ricky: For anyone that's listening, right, if you don't understand, new feature. you know, lovely creation by Flav. And it's quite a simple one. All it is, is to send in a voice note to ladsanonpod at gmail.com.

00:18:09.76
Ricky: And this voice note can contain anything. We would, we don't know what it is.

00:18:12.70
Gareth Flavell: We don't know what is.

00:18:14.49
Ricky: We won't play what it is. I haven't even tested it out. So what you do, you send in your voice note and we just play it straight off the cuff. We've got no idea what's coming. Please, if you are going to do this, refrain from anything racist because it's literally, we're recording it now and it's going to go out. Okay. So, but apart from that, fair game. Keep it under a minute.

00:18:36.11
Ricky: Let's fucking go.

00:18:37.45
Gareth Flavell: on.

00:18:48.50
Gareth Flavell: right

00:18:50.87
Ricky: No. How long is it? I thought it was like 54 seconds.

00:18:54.49
Gareth Flavell: hang on

00:18:54.69
Ricky: Oh.

00:19:05.42
Ricky: Oh.

00:19:11.19
Gareth Flavell: Is that someone…

00:19:12.66
Ricky: Is that? Oh, my God.

00:19:14.61
Gareth Flavell: Oh my God, is someone masturbating?

00:19:20.47
Ricky: How do you know?

00:19:21.94
Gareth Flavell: Didn't you hear the vibrator?

00:19:25.43
Ricky: Oh, oh my God.

00:19:27.58
Gareth Flavell: Maybe we're part of this some sort of sex game here, Ricky.

00:19:30.20
Ricky: Oh my God.

00:19:32.82
Gareth Flavell: feel I feel a bit uncomfortable.

00:19:33.91
Ricky: Yeah, I feel a bit. Yeah. Oh my God.

00:19:37.30
Gareth Flavell: I…

00:19:38.23
Ricky: yeah is this Whoever sent this in, I hope to God that you consented to film this and or or to record the audio.

00:19:45.99
Gareth Flavell: Well, she's obviously on her own.

00:19:49.08
Ricky: Oh, it's a lady. Well, I know it's a lady, but you think it's a lady that's… Oh, my God. I've just realized it what's happened.

00:19:53.98
Gareth Flavell: and um we're part we're i think we're part of a horrid sex game.

00:19:57.90
Ricky: Oh, my God.

00:19:57.91
Gareth Flavell: Like, she gets off on the fact that she's sending that to us and we're going to hear it. We're a part of her sex game. Yeah,

00:20:06.71
Ricky: Yeah, I've just realized what's happened.

00:20:08.55
Gareth Flavell: despicable. Despicable.

00:20:09.53
Ricky: Yeah, play it again. Good Lord. I mean, that

00:20:15.58
Gareth Flavell: ah yeah

00:20:16.12
Ricky: good lords i mean that is

00:20:18.95
Gareth Flavell: that's what we're talking about much better than last week there I can't believe we've been manipulated we that I mean but this was the game right we don't know what it's going to be but I don't want to be I don't want to be sort of strong armed in involved involved like in someone's you know seedy sex games

00:20:19.93
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we are going to get to the nuts and bolts of it. Yeah,

00:20:32.60
Ricky: yeah it was the game. Yeah, yeah. The game's the game. We don't know what it's going to be.

00:20:44.63
Ricky: Yeah. that I mean, aht yeah, i don't mind.

00:20:46.42
Gareth Flavell: You don't mind. Yeah,

00:20:49.46
Ricky: I don't mind. I really don't mind. um and like, God, man, if someone else sends one like them wanking and we can hear them wanking, like a lad wanking, yeah, I mean,

00:20:59.97
Gareth Flavell: lad wanking. I mean, I don't want to coerce anyone, but yeah, if a lad could send in video, no, not a video, not a video, an audio of him wanking, that would be great.

00:21:05.18
Ricky: yeah. Oh, here we go.

00:21:10.94
Ricky: Yeah, ah yeah, I mean, good, good Lord, what have we created?

00:21:11.69
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

00:21:15.77
Gareth Flavell: I don't know. Let's move on.

00:21:19.32
Ricky: Okay, um an email from last week as well. Hi Ricky and Flav, was listening to your pod about serial killers and just thought I would add to Flav's favourite killer, Dennis Nilsson.

00:21:33.56
Gareth Flavell: There is no sin.

00:21:34.65
Ricky: but ah ah Maybe for mention when he's back on the pod. First of all, right, never tell me what to do.

00:21:45.46
Ricky: Maybe for mention when he's back on the pod. this We will do what we want to do, right?

00:21:49.89
Gareth Flavell: What do you mean back on the pod I've been in every fucking episode since we started? never at a break.

00:21:53.75
Ricky: i think maybe he said referring to don't put it on the Patreon, Quickie Ricky.

00:21:59.86
Gareth Flavell: Ah.

00:21:59.90
Ricky: Put it on the main so I can hear Flav's reaction.

00:22:01.14
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:22:02.86
Ricky: But yeah, never never never tell us what to do. And then As you know, my job is in NPS. i know As I know, how i would I know that?

00:22:15.26
Ricky: a ta' a li now than I don't know.

00:22:16.42
Gareth Flavell: you are. MPS.

00:22:18.94
Ricky: And I don't know what, and I don't know.

00:22:19.76
Gareth Flavell: What's that mean? Why are you so angry at this man?

00:22:22.52
Ricky: but But I don't know. i'm not I'm not angry at him, honestly.

00:22:25.24
Gareth Flavell: you He's like this.

00:22:25.68
Ricky: I'm i'm very thankful.

00:22:26.08
Gareth Flavell: For the listeners at home, sometimes Rick turns up in the WhatsApp group and he's just on one. just He's just in a mood and he's having a go at everybody.

00:22:31.86
Ricky: The thing is, right, I'm not actually in a mood at that point, ah but I do realize that. i why Why am i machine gunning everyone? i don't know.

00:22:40.16
Gareth Flavell: no reason.

00:22:40.31
Ricky: I just.

00:22:40.92
Gareth Flavell: He comes in sometimes. Everyone's catching strays from Ricky. saying he's like… We're calling people liars. You know what you know you know what I ate? The fucking little the nose growing emoji.

00:22:50.90
Ricky: Yeah, I know you do.

00:22:52.73
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I hate it.

00:22:52.86
Ricky: I've stopped doing that. I stopped doing that with you. I do it for other people.

00:22:54.93
Gareth Flavell: I hate it. I hate it. Because when you did it worse than you did it, but when ah when I um said I'm going to give up drinking, you just did that.

00:22:57.83
Ricky: I'll stop.

00:23:02.26
Gareth Flavell: And i was like, that's not what i need right now, Rick.

00:23:03.70
Ricky: Right, and I know, I I know, I know, I know, and I will never minimize that, and I understand that.

00:23:04.73
Gareth Flavell: I felt really… I looked at it and my heart sunk when I saw that. Genuinely. That's how you made me feel.

00:23:14.67
Ricky: and my ah My apologies for it, and I do feel bad for it, but you have to understand at the time, the context is through WhatsApp, and I didn't know that you were going through it at the time.

00:23:15.13
Gareth Flavell: Do you feel bad

00:23:24.41
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, but that's what that's the point that's the point.

00:23:25.11
Ricky: Maybe if you spoke to me more often and opened your heart to me,

00:23:26.01
Gareth Flavell: You don't know. no you That's the thing, Ricky. That's the thing. No, you don't know. You don't know what people are going through.

00:23:31.03
Ricky: so So, yeah, so I can't ever joke. Is that what you're saying?

00:23:33.43
Gareth Flavell: No. no what you yeah don't know. Maybe maybe you can, maybe you can't. It's a risk you take.

00:23:40.58
Ricky: It's a risk I took, and I'll take it again every fucking day of the week. There are some times where I think to myself, I'm going to take this risk. And I know that their mum could be dead, but I'm still going to go, mum said that.

00:23:54.65
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:55.19
Ricky: And even if they come around and say, mum died three years ago, and I'd be like, I still would have made the same joke.

00:23:58.42
Gareth Flavell: Mate.

00:24:00.73
Ricky: It's just who I am.

00:24:00.79
Gareth Flavell: um i had I had one bit when um we did the podcast with Steve Nash. And he said about, he had to send VHS tapes out.

00:24:11.51
Gareth Flavell: And in my brain, I'm like, I want to say, I want to talk about the vi my dad's VHS porno.

00:24:17.54
Ricky: Yeah.

00:24:18.71
Gareth Flavell: But can I? This is Steve Nash.

00:24:21.02
Ricky: yeah

00:24:21.66
Gareth Flavell: And then by the time he started talking, I just went, sounds like my dad's pornos. Sex written on New York.

00:24:27.03
Ricky: I think he appreciated that.

00:24:28.86
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, he laughed.

00:24:29.85
Ricky: i think he he appreciated it.

00:24:31.38
Gareth Flavell: Usually you want more of it, but it's like, how do you do that?

00:24:31.53
Ricky: he knew Yeah.

00:24:34.96
Gareth Flavell: It's it's they were difficult to strong arm sex chat with Steve Nash.

00:24:41.08
Ricky: Yeah. I mean…

00:24:43.70
Gareth Flavell: if he If he does it again, we'll be much more relaxed about it.

00:24:47.22
Ricky: Sure, I think so.

00:24:49.02
Gareth Flavell: m

00:24:49.11
Ricky: And i thought yeah, I think he knows it. I mean, like he's been listening to The Fighting Cock for for years, so he understood what we were about, really.

00:24:53.59
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:24:57.88
Ricky: ah Sorry, i'll get outll I'll get on with this. As part of um the perk for them, for the MPS, what is MPS?

00:25:05.94
Gareth Flavell: m MPS. Mother Papa Sugar.

00:25:11.10
Ricky: Right, okay. So he as you know, my job is in the Mama Papa Sugar… as part of As part of a perk for working for them, you can visit the Crime Museum.

00:25:17.54
Gareth Flavell: MPS.

00:25:24.73
Ricky: Now, the crazy part, which I wasn't expecting when I visited, the physical cooker, pot, and bathtub used by Nielsen are all present at the as exhibits.

00:25:37.23
Gareth Flavell: He's an MP.

00:25:40.14
Ricky: What's an NPS?

00:25:41.02
Gareth Flavell: Members of Parliament.

00:25:42.81
Ricky: Oh, is it?

00:25:44.06
Gareth Flavell: What? three Do you know?

00:25:49.95
Ricky: What?

00:25:50.36
Gareth Flavell: you know Do you know who this is?

00:25:51.80
Ricky: Yeah, I do.

00:25:53.34
Gareth Flavell: oh you do know?

00:25:54.36
Ricky: No, i't well I mean, the name's on the email, but I've never, like…

00:25:59.29
Gareth Flavell: a member of… Who is he?

00:26:01.02
Ricky: Right, let me just, let me fucking know, man. This is, let me just find his details.

00:26:07.38
Gareth Flavell: Why does he think you know?

00:26:09.34
Ricky: I don't know. I'm like, I'm as astounded as ah as the next person. But anyway, he was saying that Dennis Nielsen, in the exhibition that they have there at the Crime Museum, is the cooker, the kettle, and stuff like that.

00:26:22.87
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:26:27.28
Gareth Flavell: Oh my God, I want to there.

00:26:28.87
Ricky: Exactly. Imagine you… Right, okay. I've got… i've got um

00:26:33.59
Gareth Flavell: should we Should we do a little day trip, you and I, to London and go to the crime museum?

00:26:37.18
Ricky: ah There is nothing more I would love than that. Right. Let me just have a look at this gentleman's name. Let me have a look. um

00:26:51.60
Ricky: Oh, I know. Oh, shit. I know what it means now.

00:26:54.65
Gareth Flavell: What?

00:26:55.45
Ricky: i think it's a metropolitan service.

00:26:58.59
Gareth Flavell: Oh, he's a copper.

00:26:59.48
Ricky: Yes.

00:27:00.54
Gareth Flavell: Ah.

00:27:01.28
Ricky: Right. Okay. Right. Okay. Okay.

00:27:04.00
Gareth Flavell: All right, make all making sense.

00:27:04.30
Ricky: Okay. okay Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right. Sorry. I didn't, I didn't know that's what that, you know, I didn't know that the acronym for it. Um, but yeah, you can go and visit there.

00:27:15.43
Ricky: And of course that saying something, uh, when one of the first things you see upon entering the museum is death masks staring at you. uh,

00:27:25.94
Gareth Flavell: where Where is this place?

00:27:28.04
Ricky: He's put a link and let's have a look where this is. maybe he can get Maybe he can get us in there as well. ah Kept at New Scotland Yard headquarters.

00:27:38.76
Gareth Flavell: Westminster. what is it Is it open to the public though?

00:27:42.71
Ricky: I don't know.

00:27:45.34
Gareth Flavell: it It says Crime Museum, Metropolitan Police, Police HQ and then it says LGBTQ plus friendly.

00:27:45.34
Ricky: ah

00:27:49.02
Ricky: yeah

00:27:54.90
Ricky: o

00:27:55.53
Gareth Flavell: The museum. So gay and queer people are allowed to go.

00:27:59.02
Ricky: That's nice.

00:27:59.06
Gareth Flavell: Which is it is good. It's inclusive.

00:28:00.98
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, it's good for them.

00:28:02.31
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:28:02.52
Ricky: Very nice. He's also put here, a few of the exhibits from my investigations are there, but linking them will identify me, so don't use these links in the pod.

00:28:15.38
Gareth Flavell: wow

00:28:16.12
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:17.18
Gareth Flavell: Send me this email now.

00:28:18.46
Ricky: Yeah. ah Okay. ah Right, here we go. Yeah.

00:28:25.72
Gareth Flavell: So he's worked on big crimes, this guy.

00:28:27.67
Ricky: yeah

00:28:29.27
Gareth Flavell: Mate, you need to do this. I keep telling you, don't know why you don't do it, this interview. Do these interviews.

00:28:33.21
Ricky: oh yeah I will get…

00:28:34.19
Gareth Flavell: don't Don't keep saying you don't fucking do it. You don't do it.

00:28:36.63
Ricky: Why don't you shut your mouth?

00:28:37.62
Gareth Flavell: I don't want to hear you going, and I've got plans to do things.

00:28:37.75
Ricky: I've sent you i've sent you i've sent you an email.

00:28:40.88
Gareth Flavell: I'm just, let me see it. I want to see it done.

00:28:43.28
Ricky: i've I've sent you the email.

00:28:43.88
Gareth Flavell: You've got you got the 9-11 guy.

00:28:45.98
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:46.54
Gareth Flavell: You've got ah this guy.

00:28:47.77
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:48.34
Gareth Flavell: There's doctors.

00:28:49.43
Ricky: Yeah.

00:28:50.04
Gareth Flavell: may Fucking start doing the content.

00:28:52.22
Ricky: there's that There's another ah sheriff in… ah Yeah, yeah.

00:28:55.78
Gareth Flavell: A sheriff.

00:28:57.07
Ricky: Yeah, retired sheriff.

00:28:57.40
Gareth Flavell: And there is um as a woman masturbating all the time.

00:28:58.59
Ricky: Yeah.

00:29:03.48
Ricky: Yeah, well, I mean, I've got it all, really.

00:29:07.87
Gareth Flavell: Oh, my God. Look at that. he said The bodies were cooked here.

00:29:10.39
Ricky: Yeah, I know.

00:29:12.19
Gareth Flavell: His toilet, he doesn't have a door on his… I mean, suppose that's not the worst thing about all this, but he doesn't have a door on where his toilet is. Imagine going in there for some rumpy pumpy and then being murdered and shoved down that.

00:29:26.35
Ricky: I know, Jesus Christ.

00:29:26.97
Gareth Flavell: What are talking about today, Rick?

00:29:28.45
Ricky: Yeah, sorry, we are talking about the simulation theory.

00:29:30.04
Gareth Flavell: We've been here all day.

00:29:32.59
Ricky: The simulation theory proposes that all reality, including human consciousness and the universe, is an artificial, hyper-realistic computer simulation created by an advanced civilization.

00:29:47.42
Ricky: Now, to try and boil that down a little bit easier and be a bit more palatable, if we think about the Matrix film, So something like that or, um, inception, right?

00:30:03.70
Ricky: Same kind of, uh, theories of going into people's minds and it's being, there's like levels to how you, how we perceive things or even the Truman show where we are part of some kind of show or something Have you ever heard of the multiverse theory?

00:30:30.44
Gareth Flavell: What? What did you say?

00:30:32.37
Ricky: knew

00:30:33.90
Gareth Flavell: I'm reading about the crimes.

00:30:35.42
Ricky: you were. yeah i know you I know exactly what you're doing. The multiverse theory. Have you ever heard of it?

00:30:42.89
Gareth Flavell: Spider-Man, isn't So

00:30:44.54
Ricky: ah yeah I mean, yeah, it's that it's part of that the the Marvel type of thing.

00:30:47.74
Gareth Flavell: is it so is it is it that there are many simulate that sorry many multiple universes coexisting in the same time all or once?

00:30:58.65
Ricky: Very good.

00:30:59.61
Gareth Flavell: Is it?

00:30:59.70
Ricky: Exactly that. There are infinite universes where every possible outcome exists. So somewhere i am, you know, talking to you and and then in another universe I am.

00:31:12.70
Gareth Flavell: So we exist in these other universities as well. All right.

00:31:15.30
Ricky: I believe so. ah believe so. I believe it's kind of all mirrored. the The other one is, I mean, see, the this is what I can't understand or try and get my head around. Brain in a vat.

00:31:28.92
Ricky: Your brain could just be floating in liquid somewhere, hooked up to signals, creating fake reality. So that's more of the matrix side.

00:31:40.57
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:31:40.57
Ricky: ah that There is, I can't pronounce this, solopsism, solopsism,

00:31:47.28
Gareth Flavell: Mm.

00:31:47.61
Ricky: only your mind exists everyone else might be projections okay Boltzmann brain theory statistically it may be more likely that a random conscious brain popped into existence with fake memories than the entire universe existing normally right

00:31:54.31
Gareth Flavell: Mm.

00:32:12.43
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:32:14.42
Ricky: There's a fucking load of theories here.

00:32:16.12
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:32:16.22
Ricky: A lot of them are just like brains floating about, milling about, doing what they want. Fake memories, program memories, dream states, whatever it is, quantum consciousness, all of that stuff.

00:32:29.62
Ricky: what what What do you think about it? No, I'm only joking. But yeah, i'll go on, go on.

00:32:32.60
Gareth Flavell: now

00:32:33.83
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:35.74
Gareth Flavell: I mean, all of these things come about because we can't explain why we're here.

00:32:41.05
Ricky: Yeah.

00:32:42.20
Gareth Flavell: So you have to come up with the fact that, don't know, it's God, for example, or come up with these things that give us some reason for existing and why what what we're doing on this rock and how it's come to be and why we look the way we do Why do we have 10 fingers and how, in what possible…

00:32:53.33
Ricky: Mmm.

00:33:01.43
Gareth Flavell: What possible explanation could could be good enough to understand what this is about? It's mind-boggling that we don't know why or how we became.

00:33:15.64
Gareth Flavell: So… or it's as likely that we're in a simulation right now that that that there is a God who created all of this. In fact, it's probably more likely that we're in a simulation than there's a God who created all of this. In fact, if there is a simulation, that means there is a God that created all this.

00:33:33.30
Gareth Flavell: So,

00:33:33.56
Ricky: Yeah.

00:33:34.62
Gareth Flavell: um i um It is interesting. Do you remember remember when Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan? And we know he's a nu and nutter, right?

00:33:45.74
Gareth Flavell: But he is an intelligent man.

00:33:46.01
Ricky: Yeah.

00:33:47.80
Gareth Flavell: And he said that one of the things that they're working on, and I wish they would have just carried on working on this rather than fucking working with Trump and becoming a fucking psychotic knight nightmare.

00:33:57.82
Ricky: Was it the flame fryer? That is fucking… Imagine coming out of that… I've got loads of money.

00:34:03.64
Gareth Flavell: That worked.

00:34:04.18
Ricky: What I've made is a flame thrower that can throw flames across a football pitch.

00:34:05.85
Gareth Flavell: I'm flippering.

00:34:10.78
Gareth Flavell: Do you remember though that like he was coming up with… He used to come across as someone who wanted to make the world a better place. um I remember there was a traffic problem in Chicago and he wanted to build, effectively build and roads that went underground to, was it Los Angeles?

00:34:29.22
Ricky: I think it's Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:32.21
Gareth Flavell: And then there was, um and then like when the, you remember when the, what were vietnam no vietnam what was it Thailand, but with a football team that went into the cave?

00:34:42.68
Ricky: Yeah, the divers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:44.31
Gareth Flavell: the divers and then there was a diver that went in to save him and he was like, Elon Musk was kind of creating a submersible where they could, the kids one by one could go in and, and take them out.

00:34:54.94
Ricky: Yeah.

00:34:56.43
Gareth Flavell: And that was the first moment you thought maybe is a bit nuts because he called the diver a pedo because he got them out before he could take you some meat submersible there.

00:35:06.42
Ricky: Yeah, the did the mask had a little slip, didn't it?

00:35:10.78
Gareth Flavell: You're thinking, oh, whoa, hang on a minute.

00:35:12.98
Ricky: Yeah.

00:35:13.30
Gareth Flavell: I mean, you might be frustrated because you couldn't save the day, but call him a paedophile.

00:35:18.01
Ricky: ah Like going straight there as well.

00:35:18.07
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, the master's straight to paedo, yeah.

00:35:20.60
Ricky: yeah Like it's not even that, oh, yeah he's he was being a bit of a dickhead about it. He was a wanker or anything like that. He's just gone straight in. out ah Oh, you've seen him.

00:35:31.14
Ricky: Yeah, it's because he's a pedo, loves the kids.

00:35:32.31
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, he's a paedophile, clearly.

00:35:33.72
Ricky: Clearly that's that's straight away. peter How has he got straight there?

00:35:38.14
Gareth Flavell: at I don't know. I don't know. It's very strange. It's very strange. um But he was talking about building an implant in your brain that would make paraplegics be able to move their arms and legs.

00:35:57.97
Ricky: I'm fairly certain he's still doing it. Isn't it called the, the neuro link?

00:36:02.04
Gareth Flavell: Is it? Yeah.

00:36:03.00
Ricky: I'm fairly, I think so.

00:36:07.10
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, but then but he made he made a point that in the future, There will be a way of downloading the information. Like in the future, rich people will be able to, while they're alive, download their mind state to a disk or a file or a chip.

00:36:21.43
Ricky: Yeah.

00:36:26.74
Gareth Flavell: And that could be reactivated in the future. And you could be inserted to relive your life in um a simulation. He said that is a possibility. That's what we're working on.

00:36:40.31
Gareth Flavell: um Now, if he's suggesting it, it could have already been done. Therefore, what we are living could have already existed and there's no way to disprove it.

00:36:55.43
Ricky: That's why I love doing these pods with you because that is one of the bullet points here.

00:37:00.63
Gareth Flavell: Really?

00:37:01.14
Ricky: Yeah, it is. So how do we not know that we are ready in as simulation?

00:37:09.40
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, we don't. But more to the point, what does it matter?

00:37:16.28
Gareth Flavell: ah it' It's the same question as how do we know we wasn't made by God? How do we know the Big Bang exists? Whatever it might be. The problem with all of this is it sort of, it doesn't matter if we are in or we are not.

00:37:32.34
Ricky: No, I always remember.

00:37:33.72
Gareth Flavell: How do I prove that you exist, Ricky? How do I prove that?

00:37:36.57
Ricky: See, I was having, it I wasn't having a wig out by the way, but I was walking the other day and I was thinking about this because obviously we're doing this pod and i was like, I can feel with my feet while I'm walking. i can smell, i can touch, I can, how does, how would that work in a simulation? Yeah.

00:37:59.31
Ricky: that I can think and feel and do and touch and ah all of it feel so real, how how would it not be real?

00:38:09.86
Ricky: And that's why i get stuck on maybe that, like you were saying… we don't know how and why we're here. So all these theories have come up with this Boltzmann brain theory and all this brain in a vat, whatever it might be, because there is no other, you know, we have to try and think out the box and every conceivable type of thing of why we're here.

00:38:35.25
Ricky: And some of it is very harebrained.

00:38:35.52
Gareth Flavell: Recently,

00:38:37.05
Ricky: It's got, obviously it's got to be, it's got to be out there because nobody actually knows. But, um,

00:38:46.36
Ricky: ah you just get to a point of, like you were just saying as well, what why why does it matter? Like, you say to me, yeah and you've said this a fair few times over the years, of when there is horrible news and when the world is burning and stuff like that, it's like,

00:39:09.56
Ricky: I have no effect over that. I can't do anything about that. All I can do is, you know, look after my wife, my kids, my house, my dog, my family, my friends, and have that effect on what I'm living in right now.

00:39:25.46
Ricky: um But if if we were to say that if we are in a simulation and what does it matter,

00:39:34.32
Ricky: isn't it affecting, like, how the world operates? Right. As in…

00:39:41.66
Gareth Flavell: I just think what's the… Like, if it's a simulation, like the only plausible, the most likely thing i can think of is that the the reason why a so simulation might exist is because people would like to live longer than they're allowed to by the physical bodies.

00:39:57.59
Ricky: o

00:39:57.98
Gareth Flavell: And they don't want it to be over. And so if there is technology, if we are outside of this world, you know, much more technologically advanced, so our brain is in a vat somewhere and we're wired into this this um this world just so we can continue to live.

00:40:19.03
Gareth Flavell: Then there's a reason why, isn't it? You can understand why people might want to live.

00:40:23.56
Ricky: Yes.

00:40:24.86
Gareth Flavell: was Whereas, so it is is plausible. with it It's just that we don't know or experience i've experienced technology that's able to enable us to do that. But you have people on this planet who believe that it's possible.

00:40:38.90
Gareth Flavell: So it just, in order, of i don't, it's just, it's strange to me. if the if it if it was If there was a simulation, we would see cracks.

00:40:50.68
Ricky: yes

00:40:50.74
Gareth Flavell: I think like we're so, our bodies are so intricately built with so many different, you know, hundreds of millions of different parts. We can be opened up and to and you can see it.

00:41:02.97
Ricky: Yeah. Yeah.

00:41:04.15
Gareth Flavell: So it's just, ah is while it's interesting and it's about as plausible as there being a god and God in heaven who's made man in his own image or whatever other religion people want to believe.

00:41:19.19
Gareth Flavell: it's It's much more likely to me that things have just happened by mistake.

00:41:24.57
Ricky: yeah

00:41:25.30
Gareth Flavell: I think. like It's just physics. as ah just It could have gone 100 trillion different ways, but it went this way.

00:41:33.21
Ricky: So there's's there's two, like just to quickly touch on those things.

00:41:33.27
Gareth Flavell: and

00:41:39.18
Ricky: There's a thing, and the person who sent this in, I think you've sent this in twice, ah in a couple of weeks ago when we did the Space one as well. And I have looked at what you've sent in, and it is fucking fascinating. So there is a thing called the the Fermi Paradox, which

00:41:56.92
Gareth Flavell: Thank you.

00:41:57.17
Ricky: And the Fermi paradox is the stress and tension between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the apparently high likelihood of his existence of its existence. In simple terms, the Fermi paradox asks given the vast number of stars and potentially habitable planets in our observable universe, there is no clear evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations.

00:42:27.03
Ricky: there are ah there's a couple of there's a specific youtube channel i'll i'll put it in the the uh show description when this goes out but there's uh two like six and eight minute animations that explains what the fermi paradox is and there's another one as well called the great filter so the great filter is the idea that in the development of life from the earliest stages of abiogenesis to reaching the highest levels of development on the Kardashev scale, there is a barrier to development that makes detectable extraterrestrial life exceedingly rare.

00:43:09.17
Ricky: So basically it's saying that we've got to, we've, we've either with the great filter, we've either come past the point and we've got through the most impossible bit of, um,

00:43:22.90
Ricky: you know, cells forming together and then growing and growing and growing and getting smarter and smarter and smarter. Then we've got over that barrier and we're the only ones here because the chances of that happening is so fucking small.

00:43:37.14
Ricky: Or we're we're still behind this filter here. So we as humans ah will grow up and get the technology technology to where we are here.

00:43:47.90
Ricky: But there is something that we can't get over that makes us go to other planets and see that there's other things and extraterrestrial and stuff like that obviously i can't explain it but those two bits there of those two theories there are some really cool animations about life and those questions of god as in god how is this created why is this created and where what why we don't see evidence of things happening around us now you said something about the cracks in reality why don't we see them have you ever had one of those moments of what the fuck was that am i in a simulation is this real yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:44:36.57
Gareth Flavell: like deja vu and stuff like that. Like that's what they do in the matrix.

00:44:40.28
Ricky: yeah

00:44:40.35
Gareth Flavell: Like a glitch. um Yeah, of course I have, but it's not because I'm in a simulation. It's just my brain playing tricks, isn't it? It's like i we believe, the kids believe our house is haunted.

00:44:54.78
Gareth Flavell: I know it's not haunted because ghosts do not exist.

00:44:59.11
Ricky: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:44:59.19
Gareth Flavell: And if, well, yeah.

00:45:00.86
Ricky: what What, the new house?

00:45:04.31
Gareth Flavell: Like, who cares, man?

00:45:04.52
Ricky: Oh, for fuck's sake.

00:45:07.19
Gareth Flavell: You're like 40. What? So what if there is ghosts?

00:45:11.30
Ricky: Mate, I don't, you know I don't like ghosts.

00:45:14.26
Gareth Flavell: Ricky, genuinely, I know you don't like ghosts when you were a kid.

00:45:15.42
Ricky: Yeah.

00:45:18.71
Ricky: Mmm. Mmm. Mmm.

00:45:21.34
Gareth Flavell: Anyway, look, these things happened in my house, right? theres So we heard we hear heard walking around, people walking around.

00:45:27.13
Ricky: Oh, for fuck's sake. Yeah.

00:45:28.44
Gareth Flavell: um ah There was a smell of like the incense in one of the rooms that what came from nowhere. um There was, um I saw a shadow behind a door, like moving, and I opened the door and there was no one in there.

00:45:45.47
Ricky: Mate, you've been in this house for fucking five minutes.

00:45:48.22
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. um And then Ollie heard like teacups being put down.

00:45:52.65
Ricky: Oh, good Lord. What's happening?

00:45:53.96
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:45:55.13
Ricky: Okay. Okay.

00:45:56.15
Gareth Flavell: Our house is not haunted. There has never been a haunted house in the history. It's something else. But our brains want to or attach it to the most interesting supernatural thing.

00:46:06.94
Ricky: Okay.

00:46:08.14
Gareth Flavell: There's nothing, otherwise you would have irrefutable proof by now, given all the technology, recording technologies we have. There is nothing out there that has ever recorded a ghost ever.

00:46:13.78
Ricky: Yeah.

00:46:16.89
Gareth Flavell: Everything you've seen is either AI or it's people playing tricks. That's what it is.

00:46:22.20
Ricky: But when you put it like that, that I mean, it does feel like…

00:46:24.70
Gareth Flavell: But there was this, there's this one thing, this program I listened to called the telepathy tapes.

00:46:32.09
Ricky: Yes.

00:46:32.86
Gareth Flavell: Did you listen to as well?

00:46:33.88
Ricky: No, I started to. I started to, but then ah think when they said it wasn't real.

00:46:40.61
Gareth Flavell: is real. It doesn't say, they didn't say it isn't real.

00:46:44.02
Ricky: ah really?

00:46:44.41
Gareth Flavell: It's cast off as as, well, this is the thing.

00:46:44.67
Ricky: Hmm.

00:46:46.49
Gareth Flavell: no So it's made as a documentary.

00:46:51.19
Gareth Flavell: Right, and I'm going to come to that point, and this is the point of all of it, right?

00:46:53.08
Ricky: Okay.

00:46:54.67
Gareth Flavell: It's made as a documentary about how autistic people, especially nonverbal autistic people, they um can communicate with their, usually their mothers, but sometimes their fathers as well, through the brain, through the mind, by sending messages, sending imagery,

00:47:08.06
Ricky: Yeah.

00:47:10.84
Gareth Flavell: And obviously to me, I'm like, of course they can't, because if they could, then that would mean telepathy exists, which we know it doesn't exist because we've never been able to document the fact that someone can read someone else's mind.

00:47:16.86
Ricky: Yeah.

00:47:24.79
Gareth Flavell: Well, I believe that as a cynic.

00:47:27.41
Ricky: Right. Okay.

00:47:28.09
Gareth Flavell: in this In this documentary, they placed a woman, they placed a mother in another room with a barrier to the child,

00:47:39.32
Gareth Flavell: And there is absolutely no way in this setting that they can see each other. And the child starts sending numbers to them. So send the number up between, or they had ah they had um and a number generator. So you press the button, five figures, it could generate any five figure number at random within a second. um They generated it.

00:48:00.98
Gareth Flavell: showed it to the, think it was either know the mother or the kid, and that number was transferred between them, right? And I'm like, this is insane. Because this is, in a scientific setting, a proof that telepathy exists in our world.

00:48:09.26
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:11.98
Ricky: Yeah.

00:48:15.35
Ricky: yeah

00:48:16.02
Gareth Flavell: And I was thinking, and I was like, this is blowing my mind. Like, how is this not news? Like, how is this not, wild why, why isn't this being spoken about? Like, this is mental. Until it probably dawned on me that it probably isn't true. It probably didn't happen. That pa perhaps this whole thing is a hoax that they're all in on.

00:48:32.50
Gareth Flavell: That's much more likely than two people mind reading each other.

00:48:39.40
Ricky: I don't I've seen Instagram reels where two twins are sitting next to each other and they've got, you know, objects in front of them and a screen and they say, right, hold it up an item. They hold up the same item. Then they say, right, do the next one.

00:48:52.34
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, and and and it's impressive, but is it much more likely that they're actually reading each other's minds or the whole thing is set up?

00:48:52.50
Ricky: but

00:48:59.01
Ricky: Well,

00:48:59.94
Gareth Flavell: It's much more likely that human beings would do that, wouldn't it?

00:49:01.88
Ricky: yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah.

00:49:04.15
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. ah I can't remember what the point is now. I've got another thing to mention.

00:49:09.11
Ricky: Okay.

00:49:09.53
Gareth Flavell: I read a book, I'm assuming in my 20s, that sort of blew my mind and it's about this sort of stuff. You might have Flatland. you ever So I've just got a synopsis here because it's tricky to explain.

00:49:18.05
Ricky: No.

00:49:21.27
Ricky: Right.

00:49:21.88
Gareth Flavell: ah Flatland is is a satirical mathematical novella. It's just a small book, short story, about a two-dimensional world inhabited by geometric shapes.

00:49:33.56
Gareth Flavell: So imagine a two-dimensional world is a flat world, right?

00:49:36.54
Ricky: Yes.

00:49:37.62
Gareth Flavell: And the shapes, the beings in this world are geometric shapes that move around. The story is narrated by a square who lives in flatland, a society rigidly divided by class and gender. Men are polygons with the social status determined by the number of sides they have, while women are represented as straight lines and treated as intellectually inferior and dangerous. A square's worldview…

00:50:02.23
Gareth Flavell: is shattered when he is visited by a sphere from spaceland, a three dimensional world. At first, he cannot comprehend the existence of a third dimension because from his perspective, so everything's flat, all he can see is changing cross sections of the sphere.

00:50:19.01
Gareth Flavell: Eventually, the square helps him understand higher dimensions by lifting him the sphere sorry higher dimensions by lifting him out of flatland so he can see his world from above.

00:50:30.58
Gareth Flavell: So when he looks down, he he when he's in flatland, he can just see lines that are of different sides and they bump into each other and they can tell how many sides they have and whatnot.

00:50:42.30
Gareth Flavell: But when he's lifted out of flatland, he can look down and he can see the shapes moving around and the lines moving. He can see it from a top-down perspective that it looks completely different to the world he actually thought he lived in.

00:50:54.74
Ricky: yeah

00:50:55.42
Gareth Flavell: So novel then flips the idea back on itself. So once enlightened, a square starts wondering whether there might be a fourth, fifth, or even higher dimensions beyond spaceland. The sphere dismisses the idea, much like a square initially rejected the third dimension.

00:51:11.16
Gareth Flavell: On the surface, it is an imaginative sci-fi concept about dimensions and perception. Underneath, it's also a critique of a Victorian society, class system, sexism, intellectual conformity, and humanity's resistance to ideas that challenge established beliefs.

00:51:27.51
Gareth Flavell: It became hugely influential and influential in mathematics, philosophy, science fiction, and and fiction and discussions around higher dimensional thinking. It's a good book.

00:51:37.85
Gareth Flavell: You should read it.

00:51:38.81
Ricky: i yeah I saw a clip recently that I don't ah can't remember if it referenced that, but um Professor Hannah Fry and she did a ah kind of a same thing of that.

00:51:53.46
Ricky: ah But it was like an ant's perspective from going from A to B because it's season 2D and all this stuff like that. um

00:52:00.57
Gareth Flavell: I've seen this Hannah Fry.

00:52:02.23
Ricky: You what?

00:52:03.12
Gareth Flavell: she's seen she's like She's everywhere, this woman.

00:52:05.43
Ricky: She is. she And I want her to be everywhere in my eyes twenty four seven she is an

00:52:10.07
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, i mean she looks a bit of you.

00:52:11.83
Ricky: ah She is an angel. She is an angel sent by from, I don't know, whatever.

00:52:19.22
Gareth Flavell: Sphere.

00:52:19.70
Ricky: Yeah, whatever worldly, godly place. Yeah, she is. um

00:52:24.50
Gareth Flavell: Okay, okay.

00:52:25.59
Ricky: I love her.

00:52:25.84
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:52:26.19
Ricky: I do love her. um What was going to say as well.

00:52:27.33
Gareth Flavell: Hmm.

00:52:31.58
Ricky: And that 2D thing is actually referenced here as well. I'm just pointing around. But we not so you know we're just talking about deja vu and stuff, right? What like what is that?

00:52:45.59
Ricky: Like, I remember when I was younger, it used to happen a lot. It hasn't happened to me at this age. That familiar of that looking kind of… um where something has happened before and you know exactly what someone's going to say when you can finish their sentence or, or, or, you know, that I've seen that, that familiarity.

00:53:03.51
Gareth Flavell: m You're just looking around and going, I've been here before. I've seen this. I've felt this before.

00:53:08.55
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:09.53
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. yeah ah ah Fuck knows. I don't know.

00:53:13.43
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:14.58
Gareth Flavell: It's impossible to explain. It's really weird when you do you do experience it. It all comes… It's like The Matrix does a really bad way of explaining deja vu because they should replay a cat walking in the same direction twice.

00:53:27.06
Ricky: Yes.

00:53:27.29
Gareth Flavell: And that's not deja vu. That's just… ah I mean, in that instance, it's a glitch in the in the the computer, the running there.

00:53:35.16
Ricky: Yeah.

00:53:35.70
Gareth Flavell: And it means something. But deja vu in reality is you cannot articulate why you you're feeling the way you do, but you just feel like you've you've been in this exact spot before.

00:53:48.28
Gareth Flavell: I took a drug once called Metasin, which was probably the most potent um and um psychedelic I've ever done. It what it was hands down.

00:53:57.91
Ricky: Yes.

00:54:00.22
Gareth Flavell: and A lot of my trip, well, don't know how long it lasted actually, but I tripped, part of my trip was I went back to being a child and being in my bedroom at home in Holloway.

00:54:17.11
Gareth Flavell: And I was there, Ricky. All I can say is I'm not, I wasn't sitting down knowing I was tripping. i was there. i was back there.

00:54:28.31
Ricky: That's fucking mental.

00:54:30.13
Gareth Flavell: It's not, I mean, that isn't the most mental thing about it. But I was i was there and I could feel and sense. and and And the only way, it it felt incredible. But I just, my reality in that moment was there. It existed.

00:54:48.31
Gareth Flavell: I wasn't on my sofa or wherever. Yeah, I was in the front room house. I was completely unaware of that person, that body. And I was that kid. and and And it was everything I experienced as a kid. And I how long it lasts for, but I remember it vividly.

00:55:04.12
Gareth Flavell: I also remember because it was windy going outside and I was a i can i was in but in a Western. I was a cowgirl, a female.

00:55:18.71
Gareth Flavell: And i had a hat on and a long coat and I had two guns here and I was looking out because we had a field on the back of our house. I was looking out and that looked like a range in like in Texas or somewhere, a ranch, like a ranch.

00:55:33.05
Ricky: Yeah.

00:55:34.14
Gareth Flavell: I was there as well, but less, less there than I was when I was a kid. It's mental. Like how, what is that? Is that not real? Was that not real?

00:55:42.94
Ricky: Right.

00:55:43.10
Gareth Flavell: ah My argument is no, it wasn't real. It was the drugs messing with my brain, but I was there.

00:55:49.04
Ricky: Okay. Right. i I get that. And that is fucking mental.

00:55:54.23
Gareth Flavell: but I'll do it again. don't know where you find this stuff. or It's just someone gave it gave me some. I would know don't know where to buy it.

00:56:00.47
Ricky: What, were you talking again, were you?

00:56:03.54
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, 100%. didn't know it misses.

00:56:06.42
Ricky: You are fucking nuts.

00:56:07.32
Gareth Flavell: We did one. i did one. and and um yeah it lasts it last about for between four and six hours. I did one. Ollie did one. Nothing happened.

00:56:17.71
Gareth Flavell: Ollie did another one. Nothing happened. Then she took a third and then something…

00:56:21.14
Ricky: Oh, my. Oh, my. Jesus Christ.

00:56:24.98
Gareth Flavell: they not not our not great I don't know how to buy some of that stuff

00:56:29.81
Ricky: Well, what I'm going ask you, right? So DMT and Ayahuasca, people take this drug and they have these things called breakthroughs where they get, let's just say for argument's sake that they get so high that they get to another plane.

00:56:49.08
Ricky: But everyone describes seeing the same thing, geometric shapes and these kind of, um,

00:56:59.16
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:56:59.70
Ricky: alien people.

00:57:00.41
Gareth Flavell: Sprayles, spiral.

00:57:01.24
Ricky: Yes.

00:57:01.71
Gareth Flavell: Oh, that's that's DMT.

00:57:03.13
Ricky: d Okay. DMT. um And what what is it?

00:57:06.42
Gareth Flavell: What do those shapes mean?

00:57:08.86
Ricky: Where, why is everyone having the same, same effect?

00:57:09.98
Gareth Flavell: see oh those Those shapes you're talking about um when you when you take mushrooms, everybody experiences those.

00:57:20.79
Gareth Flavell: like And in they they are structured. They are like, it's like when you look through a kaleidoscope.

00:57:28.99
Ricky: Mm.

00:57:29.75
Gareth Flavell: But it isn't that either.

00:57:30.28
Ricky: Oh, right. Yeah.

00:57:32.19
Gareth Flavell: It's hard. is Again, the cynic would say it's just the sensations the brain produces and sees. It's all the same because it's the same drug affecting the brains in the same way.

00:57:48.88
Gareth Flavell: But it doesn't look like that. it looks like It looks almost like the fabric of what this is. That's what it kind of feels like.

00:57:58.20
Ricky: Yeah. Well, I mean, like with, ah with DMT, everyone says that, I mean, the same geometric shapes and patterns and all that, but they also say about these like elves or whatever it is that come and visit them and speak to them.

00:58:10.92
Ricky: And like people say that the that they're unhappy with them or that they're this, that, and the other,

00:58:15.58
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, they're not

00:58:17.78
Ricky: Like, how how does that happen? Why is everyone feeling the same thing? Like, du is it is it part of like, okay, we are in a simulation and that these drugs take you out and you go to another dimension?

00:58:22.93
Gareth Flavell: Why?

00:58:32.92
Ricky: Because that's what people say.

00:58:33.00
Gareth Flavell: Hmm.

00:58:34.81
Ricky: and or is it that it activates a part of our brain that is never normally…

00:58:41.43
Gareth Flavell: But why not? Why isn't it activated? if it can do that, why doesn't it?

00:58:46.81
Ricky: Because there is, I actually got the stat earlier. um Right, so 10 million bits of information per second is what our eye is taking.

00:58:59.74
Ricky: and so 10 million bits of information per second is what is what our eye is taking. And our brain has to filter that through within a second or even quicker to kind of piece together what it is that we know.

00:59:16.38
Ricky: Now, I couldn't find the clip earlier, but um that professor Professor Anna Fry, she did this thing where she rolled up a bit of paper, put it over her eye, put her hand across it.

00:59:30.07
Ricky: And when you put your hand across it, she couldn't see a picture that she knew that was there. But that was our brain. filling in the detail of to say, you can't see this bit here, but your brain is saying, I'm going to fill in the rest because um it's easier to do that.

00:59:46.70
Ricky: So your brain is always trying to filter through what is going to keep you safe and what is going to be able to get you to do to achieve your next objection of what you're thinking about or whatever.

00:59:58.04
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah. yeah

01:00:01.40
Ricky: So by doing these different types of drugs, is it maybe like taking off the filter? I don't, I like i don't know. Like, i just feel like maybe I don't feel ah like the matrix and the simulations that we're plugged into a fucking mainframe of a massive computer or whatever. I don't really feel like that, but I do feel like it, that, that maybe there are, there is another kind of dimension that we are, that we kind of brush up against.

01:00:34.94
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:00:35.67
Ricky: and we don't really know how to get there and how it works and why it works and where, where it is. And does it even lead to anywhere?

01:00:42.04
Gareth Flavell: when When you take high doses of psilocybin… you it feels like you do leave what you are now. not It's different with different things. With the medicine, i felt like I was transported out of my body, whereas with mushrooms, always feel quite grounded, even if everything around me is quite intense.

01:01:05.59
Gareth Flavell: um But it feels like you're tapping into something else, and a lot of people talk about that. But also, you know that there's… there's There's this idea that the pineal gland in your brain releases huge amounts of DMT at the moment of death so that you go into this place as you're passing away.

01:01:28.50
Ricky: Yeah, yeah i've yeah, I have heard about that.

01:01:30.07
Gareth Flavell: You heard about that? It's called the spirit molecule.

01:01:32.09
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, okay. So when people feel like that they're going to die, this chemical dumps and then you get these feelings and sensations and they're taking places.

01:01:46.49
Ricky: And maybe when people are brought back around and and they say, I saw a light or I went to blah, that's what that was.

01:01:51.35
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah. You didn't actually probably see Like it was like this thing that happens. And you're probably a brain's way of protecting you in the same way that we have a nervous system and we have nerves in our skin that have like heat sensors, you know, you're like, so you don't burn yourself.

01:02:05.46
Ricky: Yeah.

01:02:07.14
Gareth Flavell: You have to feel, you have to have pain because pain keeps you alive because it's like a built in protection system, right? If you feel pain, you know, to get away.

01:02:13.21
Ricky: Right.

01:02:14.93
Gareth Flavell: If you couldn't feel pain, you'd probably be dead within a year. Right. How would you know if you cut yourself and that the infection or whatever it might be?

01:02:21.14
Ricky: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:23.83
Gareth Flavell: And maybe this is another one of the body's sort of defense mechanisms as they pass away, you're not aware, your conscious aspect of your brain is not aware of what's happening.

01:02:36.09
Gareth Flavell: Or maybe you are going off to another place.

01:02:39.87
Ricky: It's fucking mental. Right. Before we move on, last question. If you, if someone said to you, right, Flav, you want to know the truth about this world?

01:02:53.02
Ricky: The actual truth, not fucking lizard people, not this, that, and the other.

01:02:54.19
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:02:57.44
Ricky: I can tell you the truth. Would you want to know?

01:02:59.90
Gareth Flavell: Would I want know?

01:03:00.62
Ricky: Yeah.

01:03:03.70
Gareth Flavell: Probably not. Nah.

01:03:06.74
Ricky: Yeah.

01:03:09.78
Gareth Flavell: I'm fine with this. This is good.

01:03:13.40
Ricky: Yeah, I think I'm probably with you there because you you'd be the only person as well.

01:03:16.40
Gareth Flavell: It's like like that being in the Matrix.

01:03:18.51
Ricky: Yeah.

01:03:19.99
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, not if the fucking reality is horrible. I'd just rather state it. This isn't horrible for me, luckily enough. This isn't horrible.

01:03:27.45
Ricky: Yeah.

01:03:28.38
Gareth Flavell: um I do think so, though. Sometimes the things that… When you start thinking like that and the things that people get wound up about and upset about and you thinking like… Like a friend of ours, we both know, he ordered some expensive tiles and he ordered the wrong tiles and the wrong shade that his missus didn't ask for.

01:03:47.86
Ricky: Right. Okay.

01:03:48.38
Gareth Flavell: And obviously he's made the orders, they've been packed, they're sent up. He can't take them back. So he's got, he spent like grand on these tiles that aren't right, aren't the ones that were supposed to be ordered, but they'd look like each other, similar.

01:04:02.87
Gareth Flavell: And I said, he rang me up today and I was like, man, fucking stressing out because my missus has picked the tiles up they're the wrong ones and cost a fortune. And the I was like, in five years, you won't give a shit.

01:04:13.58
Gareth Flavell: In 10, you won't. And in 40, you won't even be here. Or 50, you won't even be here. So don't worry about the fucking tiles. um

01:04:21.62
Ricky: Yeah.

01:04:22.62
Gareth Flavell: the ah the The tiles he actually chose are better than the ones that they wanted anyway, in my opinion. i think they yeah they look much nicer.

01:04:28.79
Ricky: Oh, really?

01:04:33.91
Ricky: i'm just, um I am literally just transporting my, the feelings of, you know, when you've done, when you fucked up, when you've ordered the wrong thing or you've paid a lot of money and it's, yeah, Safergate.

01:04:41.34
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, the sofa, when it remember sofa the sofa sofa gate.

01:04:45.61
Ricky: Yeah. My missus. Yeah. Fucking hell.

01:04:47.86
Gareth Flavell: did you Was you angry about her?

01:04:47.93
Ricky: That was a,

01:04:48.94
Gareth Flavell: Did you forgive her regularly?

01:04:50.58
Ricky: I didn't forgive him very quickly. na No, no. first First of all, but but until I knew that I could rectify it, and that was a few days. But ah yeah, I was very, very angry.

01:05:01.98
Ricky: And like you're saying, they like yeah, I know, know, know.

01:05:03.10
Gareth Flavell: It was a mistake, she didn't mean to, so how can you be angry?

01:05:06.89
Ricky: It's easy to say that now.

01:05:09.50
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I know. I mean, it's like when my… I don't know. My missus opened a car door. My car door and it hit a pole and dented it.

01:05:21.43
Ricky: Right.

01:05:21.91
Gareth Flavell: The car door. I'm like, you didn't mean to do that. So how can I be angry at you?

01:05:27.87
Ricky: Yeah, that's true.

01:05:29.08
Gareth Flavell: She didn't mean to do it.

01:05:30.81
Ricky: no.

01:05:31.48
Gareth Flavell: So…

01:05:31.79
Ricky: Oh, yeah, of course. Of course. Of course.

01:05:34.05
Gareth Flavell: don't think you was angry with her, really.

01:05:36.03
Ricky: Who, me?

01:05:36.63
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:05:37.56
Ricky: No, maybe just a bit frustrated. um you you know, everyone can get frustrated, can't they? That's fine. Right, we are going to be going on to something only you know, and that is called Neighbours. The topic for next week is the most bizarre true stories ever recorded.

01:05:57.62
Ricky: They can be paranormal, spooky, unexplainable, weird, whatever you like, but they must have a solid source and not just Dave off Twitter told you. So like we've been talking aliens, ghosts, disappearing objects, telepathy, teleportation.

01:06:15.22
Gareth Flavell: There you go.

01:06:15.29
Ricky: if you've If you've got any ah stories that you've heard, send it in to ladsanonpod at gmail.com and we will talk about them next week. So obviously whilst doing the research for this, i' come across loads of stories and I was just like, I i need to talk to someone about these. So we're going to do that next week. um Something only you know, let's go.

01:06:42.39
Gareth Flavell: Something i need.

01:06:50.38
Ricky: Neighbours. Back in 2000, I'd just turned 21. My girlfriend had dumped me earlier that year and I was absolutely gutted about it until my best mate and I went on our first proper lads holiday Ibiza.

01:07:04.92
Ricky: I came back feeling like a new man, full of confidence, loving life again, genuinely thinking the world was there to be enjoyed. When I got home, my dad had hired a new cashier in his village shop.

01:07:18.62
Ricky: She was late 20s, attractive, confident. Bit of a wild side to her, and the second we met, there was an instant spark. Turns out she lived next door to my grandparents on the other side of the village.

01:07:33.78
Ricky: My brother had actually done some electrical work there before and quietly informed me she liked smoking weed, which at 21 sounded incredibly exotic and exciting.

01:07:40.26
Gareth Flavell: Hmm.

01:07:43.52
Gareth Flavell: Wow.

01:07:45.46
Ricky: One thing led to another. And before long, I was regularly popping around to her house. There was just one slight issue. She was married to a bloke in his forties What started as flirting turned into a full affair.

01:08:03.35
Ricky: We'd sleep together in their house, sometimes literally an hour before her husband got home from work. At 21, it felt exciting rather than wrong.

01:08:09.95
Gareth Flavell: good.

01:08:13.69
Ricky: Looking back now as a married man myself, it makes me cringe a bit. Then she started talking seriously about leaving him for her, ah leaving him for me and us properly getting together.

01:08:26.71
Ricky: That absolutely panicked me. In my head, this was just a bit of fun. i wasn't trying to become stepdad in a village after ah village a village affair scandal at 21 years old.

01:08:39.16
Ricky: I started backing away, it all ended badly and I never spoke to her again. Not long afterwards, she left her husband anyway. Fast forward about 20 years, both my grandparents sadly passed away and their bungalow was left to my dad.

01:08:54.68
Ricky: He offered it to us kids and my wife and I ended up taking it on. We fully refurbished it and turned it into our dream family bungalow where we now live with our two daughters. We've been here for four years.

01:09:09.94
Ricky: And the weirdest part, her ex-husband still lives next door. He's got another partner now and we chat over the fence about normal neighbor stuff.

01:09:21.18
Ricky: Bins, gardens, weather, DIY. He has absolutely no idea i used to sleep with his wife in the house next door while he was at work. My wife doesn't know either because I genuinely don't want to sour what has become our lovely family home.

01:09:36.28
Ricky: And that is something only know.

01:09:38.62
Gareth Flavell: She doesn't need to know.

01:09:39.58
Ricky: No, doesn't need to know.

01:09:40.40
Gareth Flavell: That's fine. That's a great one.

01:09:41.49
Ricky: No.

01:09:41.91
Gareth Flavell: That might be one up the way up there with the best. That and then blowing the old man in a travel lodge.

01:09:43.91
Ricky: That…

01:09:47.33
Ricky: Oh, yeah, so good.

01:09:48.77
Gareth Flavell: That was good.

01:09:49.34
Ricky: that I mean, i might that there might be… um God, if I can think of a way to get that scripted and put it into an AI animation of the story of that.

01:09:59.38
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Could you do that?

01:10:01.02
Ricky: Yeah, course you can.

01:10:02.55
Gareth Flavell: Do it.

01:10:03.13
Ricky: Yeah.

01:10:04.70
Gareth Flavell: hu You can't. How would you get it scripted though? but I know you got the script.

01:10:08.22
Ricky: Yeah, I've got the script. Someone sent in, yeah. And we can embellish the script, feed it into AI, and then it will give…

01:10:13.30
Gareth Flavell: What? It's a chat GPT.

01:10:15.16
Ricky: Something like that or like mid journey or whatever. I don't know.

01:10:18.97
Gareth Flavell: ah Chuck, give give it to me. excuse me

01:10:20.34
Ricky: Yeah, well.

01:10:21.20
Gareth Flavell: Send it to me now.

01:10:21.91
Ricky: ah

01:10:22.99
Gareth Flavell: Right now. on what'sapp that That whole story, what you've just said.

01:10:26.26
Ricky: What this one?

01:10:27.06
Gareth Flavell: yeah Yeah, I just want to try out.

01:10:27.06
Ricky: Right.

01:10:28.42
Gareth Flavell: Just send it.

01:10:29.21
Ricky: a Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll send it to now.

01:10:30.57
Gareth Flavell: I'm going to boot up ChatGBZ right now.

01:10:32.66
Ricky: Right. Okay. Let's do this. What we're get what we're actually going to do is live on air now.

01:10:36.57
Gareth Flavell: It sounds like it'd be quite complicated. um ah you Just send it to me. Send it to me.

01:10:40.34
Ricky: Right, okay.

01:10:40.45
Gareth Flavell: See what we can do

01:10:40.98
Ricky: All right, all right, I'm sending it. Right, okay, there we go. You've got that. Okay. um

01:10:47.08
Gareth Flavell: do.

01:10:48.25
Ricky: What…

01:10:48.50
Gareth Flavell: Oh, good.

01:10:49.40
Ricky: Right, good. ah The… the um That's the end of… I'm in a flutter now. that is that's the That's the end of Lads Anonymous.

01:10:55.40
Gareth Flavell: Oh.

01:10:58.55
Ricky: hope you've enjoyed it. The topic for next week is the most bizarre true stories ever recorded. They can be paranormal, spooky, wherever you like, but they must be ah bizarre and believable. Send it into ladsanonpod at gmail.com.

01:11:14.39
Ricky: um If you'd like to become a patron, we would love to have you. We've had a new couple of um gentlemen that have come aboard. Welcome aboard. Patron.com slash ladsanonpod.

01:11:29.02
Ricky: I think that's what it is. You'll be able to find it anyway. And this pod will be going to them this Friday and the video pod ad free before all you like normies get your dirty little grubby.

01:11:39.81
Gareth Flavell: Oh my God, it's working.

01:11:41.11
Ricky: Is it working?

01:11:42.50
Gareth Flavell: I've just posted it in and said, can you turn this into a comic book? And it says, create an image. All

01:11:47.22
Ricky: Holy fucking shit.

01:11:50.71
Gareth Flavell: right.

01:11:51.16
Ricky: um Right, and then send that over to me. And that's going in Discord as well. Our our own little were little community over Discord. So if you want a piece of that and you want to see my, you know, the DIY as well, the the bad DIY in our Discord, join Patreon.

01:12:08.70
Ricky: And until then, i hope you have a bloody wonderful week.

01:12:13.15
Gareth Flavell: Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

00:00:01.66
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:00:03.66
Flav: What's happening?

00:00:05.62
Gareth Flavell: I am. It's the same cycle the last two years, man. And I don't know quite what to do.

00:00:11.20
Flav: Whoa.

00:00:16.61
Gareth Flavell: I quit vaping. New Year's resolution, quit vaping and everything's going fine. Everything is going fine. And then in April. i hit a wall.

00:00:28.92
Gareth Flavell: And it's like i go to the football. I have a few pints. I get a bit giddy and I'm like… This chewing gum isn't… It's not holding the tide.

00:00:43.38
Gareth Flavell: So I go out and get a quick little £4 Lost Mary just to, you know, tide me over for that evening, leave it in the pocket. The next time I go for a beer with the boys, it will be there.

00:00:55.26
Gareth Flavell: And that's it. That's all I want to do Just when I'm having a beer, have a quick vape, and then I'm done and dusted. But I find myself…

00:01:07.54
Gareth Flavell: When I'm locking the doors at night, everyone's upstairs. I go into my coat pocket and I'm standing by the front door. have a couple of bangs on it.

00:01:18.19
Flav: What?

00:01:18.30
Gareth Flavell: Put put it back in my coat and then off to bed I go. It's like a full stop on the day.

00:01:21.95
Flav: What's this? Oh, so you don't smoke, you don't do it during the day, but you you've got it on your nail, Rick.

00:01:26.72
Gareth Flavell: no.

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Flav: I'm literally watching you i've watched you take a pull on it.

00:01:30.30
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, And it's…

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Flav: Is it because everyone's out and they don't see you doing it?

00:01:34.20
Gareth Flavell: It's now slid into May. And what what look out your window. Tell me what's there.

00:01:38.62
Flav: Summer, sunshine, warmth.

00:01:39.91
Gareth Flavell: The sun. Yeah. And it just makes you go into that pub garden mode. And I can feel it in my body. Like, it's like saying, you know your calorie counting, but it's hot.

00:01:55.74
Gareth Flavell: Just have a beer, Rick.

00:01:57.76
Flav: Rick Rick can I to me you just seem to be constantly on like just weird not weird, you're doing it for the betterment but you're right's fasting and you not and then you don't you can't vape and then

00:01:58.07
Gareth Flavell: You know, it's hot. Just sit in the garden and have a little vape.

00:02:11.90
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:02:16.47
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:02:18.63
Flav: It's like you just want your life to be a little bit more miserable than it needs to be. like who Who are you fasting for?

00:02:25.94
Gareth Flavell: ah For me, i like like I'm at my…

00:02:28.92
Flav: No, no, I get that.

00:02:30.13
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:30.42
Flav: Does it make you happy?

00:02:32.54
Gareth Flavell: the No, the the losing weight makes me happy.

00:02:35.86
Flav: When's that going to happen?

00:02:36.76
Gareth Flavell: ah what it goes on and off. It's it's like a

00:02:40.64
Flav: So you're not really losing weight despite denying yourself.

00:02:42.42
Gareth Flavell: No, no, maintaining, maintaining. Losing and then up and then losing and then up again.

00:02:49.30
Flav: Like, you're not not smoking crack. it's just a bit of of It's just a bit of steam.

00:02:53.22
Gareth Flavell: nay

00:02:57.98
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, but I kind of feel like I've let my kids down because I'm like, ah not not that I did this. Right.

00:03:05.30
Flav: Okay, lett let me just tell you something, Rick.

00:03:07.06
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:03:07.37
Flav: That's fine at the moment. In a couple of years, they won't care.

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Gareth Flavell: bri

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Flav: They'll be so preoccupied with what they're doing. ah They'll be vaping by then as well.

00:03:16.06
Gareth Flavell: Don't say that. Don't you dare.

00:03:17.27
Flav: I wouldn't be surprised if they're vaping already. How old are they?

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Gareth Flavell: no

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Flav: 14 and 12. 14 ones.

00:03:22.49
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Flav: Maybe because she's she's very good and she's she's very… yeah she likes sure

00:03:27.19
Gareth Flavell: yeah. Yeah, she is no way, Nathan. No way. Younger one, we, you know, we might have a Lambert and Butler, 20 on her.

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Flav: I have a problem.

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Flav: ah ah There isn't there isn't a young person in where I live who isn't vaping. Honestly, it's like pandemic. but like it yeah They've brought in vapes to help reduce smoking.

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Gareth Flavell: It's fucking mental. Yeah.

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Flav: I mean, putting part of that into business as well.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: And definitely it helps get you off the fags, for sure.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah,

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Flav: But most of these young people would have never started smoking anyway because smoking is a habit is is is of rather seen as sort of quite a disgusting habit, right?

00:04:07.42
Gareth Flavell: it's bad, isn't

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Flav: Yeah, whereas when we were kids, first thing you did was 16, someone out of a spare cig and you started smoking. and it was like, cool, was like the best thing in the world. It was disgusting, but you just did it. Yeah.

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Gareth Flavell: I was nicking menthols out my mum's purse when I was like 10.

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Flav: Yeah, I really 10.

00:04:20.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck me. Yeah, yeah.

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Flav: Exactly. But these vapes are like, they taste like sweets. It's crazy. um and So the they all these kids are just a like both Will and Chloe, they're vaping.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh, Chloe as well.

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Flav: And I'm like, what? She's 18. What am I supposed to do? What was we doing at 18?

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Oh, God.

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Flav: I was smoking. I was nicking my nan's fags.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

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Flav: I was nicking my nan's fags.

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Gareth Flavell: ah ah

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Flav: Super kings. They were. They were long.

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Gareth Flavell: okay

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Flav: Long, really long ones. And like my nan, I'd be lying on the floor because often when I'd go and see him, we'd go into my nan's house. You remember house, don't you? Because she had she used to sit on a chair on the left-hand side. And there was another chair over the other side room where my granddad used to sit. But he's always, it was so far away.

00:05:07.48
Flav: So I used to lie on the floor next to my nan, ah you know, by her feet pretty much. Or my my back up against her the chair.

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Gareth Flavell: Like a little a dog.

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Flav: Yeah, um um like my nan I think my nan was the only put i was the only person my nan wasn't mean to.

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Gareth Flavell: Okay. ay

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Flav: Yeah, she loved me.

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Gareth Flavell: Oh.

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Flav: I was her favorite, hands down her favorite.

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Gareth Flavell: Really?

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Flav: Yeah, because Russell and Ryan, obviously, they're my half-brothers, but they they only saw my dad every other weekend because their their relationship with their mum split up.

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Gareth Flavell: yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Flav: um And ah so I would always go into my nan every Sunday, I would just go in there. I think I wanted to get a whack get out of the house because i had two older stepbrothers and was like…

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Flav: to spend some time on my own banana so she was my favourite no I was her favourite but I used to just I used to nick fags from her and smoke them when she got to a stage where she was kind of i think the dementia had started but I wasn't aware of it so I could just smoke her fags and she wouldn't know yeah yeah

00:06:04.94
Gareth Flavell: That's mental. While you were talking just then, and you're talking about your nan, this is going to sound weird, right? But I just saw an orb go past around your head.

00:06:15.14
Flav: no you didn't

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Gareth Flavell: I swear on my life. I swear on my life. When you watch this back, when we watch the video back, you will see it

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Flav: um but that can't have happened because that sort of shit doesn't exist, Ricky.

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Gareth Flavell: That is… that is

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Flav: What do you mean an orb? I've just had a wank, so hopefully not.

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Gareth Flavell: Well, I believe orbs…

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Flav: That's a joke.

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Gareth Flavell: what ah Orbs are… ah Well, it's like little balls of energy, isn't it? That kind of…

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Flav: It's the bits when like when you're watching Ghost Hunters and stuff and they go, oh, an orb. And you're like, oh, rock great, an or another orb.

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Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

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Flav: All right.

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Gareth Flavell: And I just saw one. Maybe it it was…

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Flav: Well, you see, you show me the video and prove it to me.

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Gareth Flavell: Right, I can't wait to do this afterwards. It's going to fucking brilliant.

00:07:02.38
Flav: All right. Yeah, so um all the kids are vaping. You'll be vaping. Don't worry.

00:07:06.62
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:07:06.62
Flav: Hang on. Doesn't D-Money vote vape?

00:07:08.44
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, she does. Yeah, yeah.

00:07:09.56
Flav: In front of the girls?

00:07:09.64
Gareth Flavell: Like a fucking mate. Like she doesn't do it in front of the girls, but like, yes, cool.

00:07:14.01
Flav: Do the girls know?

00:07:15.78
Gareth Flavell: The vape is laying around everywhere. she She will be vaping in the kitchen. The girls will come in and she's like wafting her hands like they can't smell fucking triple lemon or whatever it is she's smoking.

00:07:24.57
Flav: a cherry yeah yeah You can't tell them not to when you're doing it.

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Gareth Flavell: It's like, yeah, I know, but i just… They know that I've made a conscious effort to stop, to kind of show them, look, girls, I used to vape. I know it's bad, and I'm going to stop. I, like…

00:07:41.49
Flav: That's the thing. Because they won't they stop listening to your words and just follow your actions. What am I supposed to say to Will and Chloe when i'm I'm still smoking cigarettes outside?

00:07:50.33
Gareth Flavell: you smoking… Are you on the cigs? The actual…

00:07:52.60
Flav: and When did I ever give up?

00:07:54.14
Gareth Flavell: thought you did. I thought, like, you went…

00:07:55.42
Flav: when i know When I wasn't drinking, I stopped smoking then.

00:07:58.87
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:07:59.80
Flav: So, I mean, we talked about this, but it's so weird. I didn't even want a cigarette.

00:08:03.83
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly.

00:08:04.89
Flav: like went now Like, if i'm I'm not… I sit in this office all day and obviously I'm not drinking and I don't think about cigarettes. It's only when I get home, if I get home about…

00:08:17.76
Flav: Well, whenever, whatever time I get home, I probably start drinking pretty much most times, most nights.

00:08:22.31
Gareth Flavell: Right. Okay.

00:08:22.68
Flav: When when i say start drinking, it's not like tanning whiskey, but might open and brought a bottle of wine or something.

00:08:25.62
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:08:27.45
Flav: Then the fags fly out.

00:08:29.75
Gareth Flavell: Fuck, really? What are you on?

00:08:30.90
Flav: Yeah.

00:08:31.86
Gareth Flavell: you on…

00:08:33.17
Flav: Rob gold.

00:08:34.01
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:08:35.29
Flav: Yeah.

00:08:35.93
Gareth Flavell: In the white box, yeah? Not fucking mobile reds, no? Because it used to be mobile lights, didn't they?

00:08:40.87
Flav: No, gold. Gold.

00:08:43.26
Gareth Flavell: Right, okay.

00:08:44.98
Flav: Yeah. So, um, Yeah, I don't know. It's weird because I spot i thought like tobacco was the hardest thing to, or nicotine was the hardest thing to give up or one of. But like I said, I have no ah no sensation to want to smoke when I'm not um not having a beer.

00:09:01.72
Gareth Flavell: Fuck.

00:09:01.72
Flav: Weird, isn't it?

00:09:03.06
Gareth Flavell: and and like and And you're like smoking in front of the kids and that's fine. And you're like, yeah, I know that.

00:09:07.86
Flav: But they're not kids. They're adults now.

00:09:09.82
Gareth Flavell: But like, right.

00:09:10.81
Flav: Yeah. Yeah. My dad did. My nan did.

00:09:14.71
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:09:15.67
Flav: Did you…

00:09:15.77
Gareth Flavell: I remember.

00:09:16.66
Flav: the draw

00:09:17.98
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, my mum. Yeah, my mum used to smoke for years, years and years.

00:09:21.37
Flav: Rick, you know, you're not, you ah you should be setting a good example to your kids, and you do, and youre you are correct.

00:09:28.92
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:09:30.78
Flav: But when they go out in the big world, they're going see it all.

00:09:33.50
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:09:35.32
Flav: So, like, what do they know?

00:09:37.22
Gareth Flavell: So…

00:09:38.94
Flav: what what maybe not Remy, but Amelie.

00:09:41.82
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:09:41.91
Flav: Have you talked to her about what, like, ecstasy pills and stuff like that?

00:09:45.24
Gareth Flavell: Fucking hell no Jesus Christ. I can't…

00:09:48.76
Flav: What happens when she gets offered one then? She doesn't know what to do.

00:09:53.17
Gareth Flavell: Well, I… God, do you think I…

00:09:55.26
Flav: bit older. You better wait a bit later. Just 16?

00:09:56.95
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I think I'm going to have to wait a bit later. I mean, she is a very, you know, goody two-shoes kind of like…

00:09:59.57
Flav: it's

00:10:02.33
Flav: Yeah. Good. Yeah.

00:10:04.34
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, but I going have to have that conversation. You know, if you like, so have you had that conversation yours?

00:10:10.39
Flav: yeah they They mature rapidly from 14 to 16. sixteen that There's a big change. I know it's a massive change in Will between 14 and 16. He becomes more mature and he's much more like an adult. He's not an adult. He's still 16. But if this you see a switch in your kids at that age.

00:10:29.53
Gareth Flavell: He looks like one.

00:10:29.72
Flav: And then… What? What?

00:10:32.77
Gareth Flavell: Will, fucking big old lump, isn't

00:10:34.44
Flav: Yeah, he's so tall.

00:10:35.64
Gareth Flavell: Handsome, handsome man as well.

00:10:35.78
Flav: He's good looking dad. And Chloe's like 18, right? So she's literally an adult.

00:10:43.00
Gareth Flavell: Fuck.

00:10:42.96
Flav: So ah they ask questions and they're going out and they're dr they're they're going out to like, in the country here, they have this place called The Patch and they they'll meet on this, gri of similar stuff that we did when we were kids.

00:10:55.19
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

00:10:55.15
Flav: ah you We used to go to Paradise Park and drink.

00:10:57.43
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, help.

00:10:57.62
Flav: They go to the patch and drink. The the cycles repeat regardless. And then they just, so well, what what happened was… During lockdown, had loads, we, you know, it was a heavy time, so we it was we thought the world was ending, and so we just I bought loads of like stuff to help alleviate the boredom, let's say.

00:11:21.24
Flav: And it was in a lockbox, it was all locked away with a code. um And the last time I used it would have been years ago, and I forgot that the stuff was in there. And there was nothing major, but and the kids found it when we were moving.

00:11:37.30
Gareth Flavell: what they box open, though was it?

00:11:40.76
Flav: It was zipped up, but it wasn't locked. And previously it was in like my room in the top of the cupboard, but it just when we were moving. It wasn't a problem because they you know they ask they they saw sort of like some mushrooms and stuff like that in there.

00:11:53.91
Flav: that And they just like know they were asked questions.

00:11:54.12
Gareth Flavell: Uh, yeah, okay, that's fine.

00:11:57.09
Flav: But i just i made it a point, because I worked for the media charity before, working with young people and educating them about things like drugs and a knowing Nick, our mate Nick, who you know works in drugs…

00:12:09.62
Gareth Flavell: Nick, ya yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:12.41
Flav: ah harm reduction in young people with drugs that I knew that it was better for the kids to have the information about what to do if someone offers them an ecstasy pill in the future when it inevitably happens they're not given that information and they make the wrong decision like take it whole immediately so

00:12:32.09
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, double dropping shit like that.

00:12:34.23
Flav: Yeah, because they didn't feel it in the first half an hour. That's that that is that's harm that's protecting them from a situation. or not It's not protecting them, it's giving them the information to make the right decision. The right decision could well be, I don't want that, no thank you.

00:12:48.41
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:12:48.98
Flav: But we know, don't we?

00:12:51.26
Gareth Flavell: Yes.

00:12:51.70
Flav: We don't make the right decisions, do we?

00:12:53.23
Gareth Flavell: No, no, no, no, no.

00:12:53.97
Flav: Typically. In fact, we like making wrong decisions.

00:12:56.95
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do. And have you have have you had that conversation though?

00:12:59.58
Flav: So…

00:13:03.48
Flav: Yeah, several times. Not sat them down and go, right, guys, need to talk to you about something.

00:13:04.82
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:13:07.84
Flav: Drugs.

00:13:07.90
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:13:08.56
Flav: When they get offered to you in the future, it's more subtle, like exhibit A.

00:13:10.10
Gareth Flavell: Exhibit A, we're all going to do we're all goingnna do this.

00:13:11.71
Flav: Yeah.

00:13:13.22
Gareth Flavell: We're all going to do a quarter and tell me how you feel.

00:13:14.49
Flav: yeah

00:13:15.14
Gareth Flavell: We write down our feelings. We journal it. ah

00:13:19.48
Flav: No, we just sat down. it was just when you're driving the car. the but The car rides are the best places to have conversations with the kids because there's nowhere they can go.

00:13:26.07
Gareth Flavell: ah Right, okay.

00:13:27.77
Flav: So, and we might start out of like, oh, used to get out my mates. We used get out with all sorts. And then I go, oh, what do you mean? Well, you know, so when you're young, you do you get you put in situations and people offer you things.

00:13:41.34
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:13:43.45
Flav: Like, have you ever heard of like ecstasy? that that And they'll they'll go, yeah, I know what it is.

00:13:46.03
Gareth Flavell: Oh, yeah.

00:13:48.68
Flav: They know, because certainly if they're on social media, they'll know what most things are. And then you talk to them. Like…

00:13:55.74
Gareth Flavell: and when you when you educate them and saying like um like, do half and the strengths and all stuff like that, did you ever draw comparisons with your own experiences?

00:14:07.90
Flav: No, I never said, I alluded to the fact that we had experiences when I was younger, but I never went into detail about this is what we used to do.

00:14:12.65
Gareth Flavell: Gotcha.

00:14:16.02
Flav: Not like that. It wasn't glamorizing it. It was just saying, look, when you get older, certainly now, now it's like obvious. They're out, they're mating their mates.

00:14:23.16
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:14:23.97
Flav: They're going up down to the woods. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they've tried some stuff already. I don't know. They haven't told me and they probably would. um I think they think Chloe would because she's much more like,

00:14:36.66
Flav: It's like the second child's syndrome.

00:14:38.04
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:38.06
Flav: Out of the two of them, it's going to always be the year.

00:14:40.22
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:14:42.01
Flav: And then… ah So, yeah, you just sort of talk to them about that. And, like, the best one… the this like i guess what you're going to be offered, it's going to be weed and it might be pills and mushrooms and stuff like that.

00:14:55.06
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:14:55.37
Flav: It's just some basic harm reduction that they… to keep themselves safe. Like, you wouldn't drink a whole bottle of vodka… right in one go would if you were having to drink vodka you might sip it and see how you feel you don't take a whole ecstasy pill in one go even though it looks tiny these are really yeah it does a lot yeah you can end up in hospital

00:15:04.69
Gareth Flavell: No.

00:15:10.97
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:15:15.93
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. What's that going to do? It does a lot. It does a lot. Yeah.

00:15:21.72
Flav: does a lot um so it's just so that they know that you are cool with it and that you're they can talk to you about it at any time rather than if you don't mention it they're gonna get exposed to it anyway not at 12 not at 14 maybe because they're still screamnna like you say she's quite prim and proper but at some stage they are they're gonna see it

00:15:32.70
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:15:45.46
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, because I've always had this thing, right, where we've spoken about this before. We're talking about ah harm reduction, and it's always better to be kind of open and honest. And I wanted that relationship with my kids. I do want that relationship with my kids to say, ah if someone offers you and you you know you are inclined to do it or whatever, take a half and see how you get on, all all that stuff, right?

00:16:07.35
Gareth Flavell: But then I'm always in that bit, like, if they ever ask me, have you ever done it? not What do I say? do I go… Yeah, I've doubled.

00:16:14.97
Flav: Yes.

00:16:16.32
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah. oh yes

00:16:17.88
Flav: you say but you You just say, that if have I ever done it? And you'd say, yes, in my younger days, I have taken some things.

00:16:24.54
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:16:24.96
Flav: Yeah, you have to be honest.

00:16:27.64
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:16:28.41
Flav: um Yeah, I can see that, yeah.

00:16:29.37
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, Foxy, yeah yeah. He used to push a good lord knows what in my mouth.

00:16:32.42
Flav: I always get blamed for shit like this. He kept putting oxygen, shoving pills in my mouth.

00:16:39.32
Gareth Flavell: he

00:16:40.38
Flav: I didn't want to take them, Fox made them.

00:16:44.12
Gareth Flavell: ah right oh yeah okay I'll yeah I'll let you know but that might be instead of cool Frank it'll be cool Foxy that'll do that'll work

00:16:45.91
Flav: Or if you wanted, ah you know, i'm not not that this is probably a situation that it would be appropriate, but I could always talk to them and then you'd never have to talk about what you've done.

00:16:58.81
Flav: But when they're older, when you think they're ready.

00:17:04.52
Flav: Yeah.

00:17:08.90
Flav: Indeed. Indeed.

00:17:11.77
Gareth Flavell: But then glorify it.

00:17:13.69
Flav: I would never.

00:17:13.94
Gareth Flavell: That's good.

00:17:15.86
Flav: It would come from a place of love.

00:17:21.88
Gareth Flavell: OK, right.

00:17:22.13
Flav: Right, and love and care, yep.

00:17:23.80
Gareth Flavell: Jingle.

00:17:50.81
Gareth Flavell: Hello and welcome to Lads Anonymous, it's episode 150.

00:17:55.61
Flav: So it's…

00:17:56.05
Gareth Flavell: Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates, one main topic. We answer your life dilemmas and confessions in our feature, Something Only You Know, and everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pod.

00:18:08.85
Gareth Flavell: How's it going Flav?

00:18:10.52
Flav: um I think on Saturday, no, sorry, on June 1st, I'm going to Bristol Cathedral or some place in Bristol to listen to Amnesiac, the Radiohead album, In the Dark, played by an orchestra.

00:18:12.47
Gareth Flavell: Mmm.

00:18:15.67
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:18:22.58
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:18:30.76
Gareth Flavell: i've so I've seen those things.

00:18:32.41
Flav: they put You put a mask on your face yeah and yeah and you lie down.

00:18:34.73
Gareth Flavell: Oh, I've not seen that one. Fuck off.

00:18:38.71
Flav: They just play the album.

00:18:42.20
Gareth Flavell: Mate, that sounds ream.

00:18:43.92
Flav: 15 quid.

00:18:45.24
Gareth Flavell: My mum went to… It was a present for her fella. But Hans Zimmer.

00:18:52.37
Flav: Yeah.

00:18:52.47
Gareth Flavell: Church. Thousands of candles.

00:18:55.96
Flav: Oh, yeah.

00:18:56.47
Gareth Flavell: Dark and live orchestra.

00:18:57.43
Flav: Does she love it?

00:18:59.37
Gareth Flavell: She's not into Hans Zimmer, but she said it was amazing. So

00:19:03.58
Flav: Why what why why did you buy a stuff? Who's it for?

00:19:07.00
Gareth Flavell: ah she bought it for her fella.

00:19:09.02
Flav: Oh, right. I guess I said she went along. Yeah.

00:19:11.16
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and I've seen they do a Fleetwood Mac one. They do a Coldplay one. I'd be fucking well into that.

00:19:19.09
Flav: Yeah, I'm going to… I think it's called Pitch pitch Black payback Playback.

00:19:25.25
Gareth Flavell: That sounds all right, you know.

00:19:26.65
Flav: Yeah, it's We the Curious Planetarium on June the third So i'm gonna I might check it out. I might go.

00:19:34.84
Gareth Flavell: How were amnesiac, is that high up in your…

00:19:40.28
Flav: ah Not in most people's, but in mine, i would say… i mean, I've… You kind of Because I think I've said this before, but with Radiohead, you you can dip in and out of different albums and when you want.

00:19:53.53
Flav: So you kind of have a favourite at one time.

00:19:55.51
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:55.96
Flav: i think Amnesiac is… Yeah, i love it. I listen to it more than any other Radiohead album. And I have done for ages, yeah.

00:20:01.18
Gareth Flavell: Shit.

00:20:02.65
Flav: It's brilliant. So good. now Anyway… okay

00:20:07.87
Gareth Flavell: What?

00:20:09.87
Flav: It's good. Because Kid A and Amnesiac, essentially, they were released within the same year. It might have been even been months apart. And they're supposed to be together as a a combined thing. And they actually but later on released them as a combined album.

00:20:23.16
Gareth Flavell: what

00:20:24.34
Flav: But yeah, Kid A and Amnesiac. They're like… Amnesiac is like an extension of Kid A.

00:20:32.17
Gareth Flavell: I didn't know that.

00:20:33.50
Flav: Yeah. If you go on Spotify, there's a there's one of the albums is… ah see How is it called? It's just Kid A slash Amnesiac or something similar to those effects.

00:20:46.61
Gareth Flavell: I'll have a look at that. The um little were bit of housekeeping. There is a ah dilemma update we've had, right?

00:20:53.93
Flav: I

00:20:54.23
Gareth Flavell: Do you remember there was a dilemma called Backstage Blues?

00:20:59.61
Flav: can't remember, remind me.

00:21:00.79
Gareth Flavell: So it was a gentleman who was with his long-term partner. They'd gone see their favorite DJ. They were a bit ah three sheets to the wind. Someone from a v someone from the DJ entourage came through the crowd, gave his missus a VIP backstage wristband.

00:21:18.81
Flav: Ah, yeah, and she went and left him.

00:21:19.19
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:22.20
Flav: Yeah, i remember, yeah.

00:21:23.45
Gareth Flavell: That's the one.

00:21:24.25
Flav: Yeah.

00:21:25.24
Gareth Flavell: Hello lads, me again from the backstage blues dilemma. Just wanted to update. Me and the missus spoke and moved past it. She was truly sorry for what she caused.

00:21:37.18
Gareth Flavell: Think I just needed an outside, unbiased opinion for reassurance. I have a great relationship. Thank you for helping me not screw it up. I've also quit smoking and vaping. Oh, fuck you. ah Fuck, i didn't read that.

00:21:52.83
Gareth Flavell: Latinon is helping me through the irritability and cravings.

00:21:54.90
Flav: ah

00:21:56.15
Gareth Flavell: Thank you. P.S. That Flav is a great guest. You should get him on more often.

00:22:01.43
Flav: This is ah that's a, that's a joke that's a hangover.

00:22:01.53
Gareth Flavell: Okay. Yes.

00:22:04.85
Flav: Do you know this? It's a hangover from Jaffan.

00:22:06.17
Gareth Flavell: No.

00:22:08.89
Flav: The joke is that I'm a guest on James's channel.

00:22:11.70
Gareth Flavell: is it really?

00:22:12.09
Flav: ra

00:22:12.87
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:22:12.82
Flav: Rather than a podcast. Yeah, rather than rather than it being our podcast, I'm a guest on his podcast.

00:22:18.97
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:22:19.18
Flav: That's the joke.

00:22:20.31
Gareth Flavell: ah Because someone mentioned it last week as well, and I didn't twig.

00:22:24.54
Flav: Yeah, I didn't hear it last week, but that's what it was.

00:22:26.52
Gareth Flavell: Right, okay, right, okay. I like that, I like that. um We are still getting people that are sending in ah to the feature, don't listen. We have this week's don't listen.

00:22:39.71
Gareth Flavell: Play it in one second. What this is?

00:22:41.02
Flav: Last week, woman was fudding herself off.

00:22:43.19
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I couldn't believe that. I listened back to that as well, and I was like, there were there was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:46.46
Flav: Did you get a twinge?

00:22:50.75
Flav: Yeah, little twins.

00:22:51.48
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah.

00:22:51.70
Flav: I don't know what you're like.

00:22:53.43
Gareth Flavell: Well, yeah, course.

00:22:54.29
Flav: What'd you do?

00:22:55.35
Gareth Flavell: Oh, I didn't do anything. No, yeah God, no. Because if there's us two laughing in it as well. Because I didn't know what was happening, first of all.

00:23:00.02
Flav: The thing is…

00:23:03.03
Flav: i

00:23:03.10
Gareth Flavell: There was a first noise and we were, like, talking and I was like, did I just… And then another faint one came through and then I was like, fuck, is that…

00:23:08.73
Flav: Yeah.

00:23:11.29
Flav: So, like, in my opinion, what is it cheating if you knock one out to that?

00:23:15.78
Gareth Flavell: No.

00:23:17.84
Flav: No?

00:23:18.55
Gareth Flavell: Well, I mean, like it's like saying if you knock one out to porn…

00:23:22.04
Flav: Yeah, but that someone who listens to the podcast is some sort of different. Like, your wife, your missus wouldn't be happy if you did that. And you haven't done that.

00:23:29.61
Gareth Flavell: Mmm.

00:23:30.22
Flav: You haven't done that. Let's be clear.

00:23:31.05
Gareth Flavell: Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

00:23:31.14
Flav: but like

00:23:32.35
Gareth Flavell: Nah. nay

00:23:35.22
Flav: Like, what if like your missus received a a voice note of some man getting fudding, like, wanking, going, oh, oh. Would you be okay with her?

00:23:44.18
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:23:45.21
Flav: ah Would you be okay with listening?

00:23:48.54
Gareth Flavell: Well, I mean, that's the thing is, right, we could, like, that person, whoever sent that in, that could have been another recording from an audio from a video or whatever.

00:23:58.61
Flav: Of course. Yeah, of course.

00:24:00.09
Gareth Flavell: So we don't know. But, ah so I wouldn't have said that, but now you mention it, I still don't think it. So that's fine.

00:24:09.18
Flav: Okay, fine.

00:24:09.96
Gareth Flavell: um So this feature, don't listen, flap out out request that anyone can have their time in the sun, If they send us an audio and all you have to do is label it, don't listen.

00:24:24.93
Flav: Yep.

00:24:25.08
Gareth Flavell: We won't listen. stays under a minute and it could be a recording of whatever you like.

00:24:27.10
Flav: We never do.

00:24:31.33
Gareth Flavell: And we will play it live on the podcast. what we would you know Our one request is no kind of racism, homophobia, any of that stuff.

00:24:42.30
Gareth Flavell: But good, clean fun, really, is what we request. And we're going to play one now, and neither of us have listened. We've got no idea what is coming, so enjoy this.

00:25:43.42
Flav: you.

00:26:04.92
Gareth Flavell: Very nice.

00:26:04.89
Flav: wonder yeah I wonder if there's anybody who listens to doesn't listen to the fighting cock and listens to this. There may be people's like wives and stuff.

00:26:12.57
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:26:13.68
Flav: I don't know if we can go into that story once again.

00:26:17.69
Gareth Flavell: Well, I mean, it's just a, let's just say it's a story that Flav has cooked up, whereby that Tottenham's chairman, Daniel Levy, for Tottenham to get, well, for the fans to get their own way.

00:26:29.86
Gareth Flavell: ah Yeah, the chairman has his wicked way with me in a travel lodge.

00:26:29.94
Flav: More players. just get more players.

00:26:35.13
Flav: ah

00:26:37.51
Gareth Flavell: I think it's a travel lodge in Watford.

00:26:38.71
Flav: in well

00:26:44.15
Flav: Yeah. And he basically, you yeah you're completely naked and he's got his suit on.

00:26:48.63
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:26:49.13
Flav: And he pokes his willy for ease fly.

00:26:50.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Erection through flies. Cause he's got, he's got no time.

00:26:52.50
Flav: um you And he hoists you up.

00:26:54.02
Gareth Flavell: He's a businessman. say ah yeah.

00:26:57.28
Flav: Your your legs around his waist.

00:26:59.00
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:26:59.93
Flav: And yo he puts you up against the door.

00:27:00.06
Gareth Flavell: um

00:27:03.42
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:27:05.91
Flav: And he starts having his way with you, Ricky.

00:27:07.42
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. And then, and then my, my, my legs and arms ah wrapped around him tighter and tighter, like an anaconda.

00:27:08.47
Flav: bouncing Bouncing you on him.

00:27:16.66
Flav: Yeah. yeah

00:27:20.06
Gareth Flavell: ah

00:27:20.06
Flav: And what do you whisper in his ear?

00:27:21.94
Gareth Flavell: I can't say this bit. I enjoy the joke up to this point because this bit just makes me, i can't, I can't do it. Yeah, go on, you do it.

00:27:30.62
Flav: He whispers in your I'm going to make you come, Daniel.

00:27:30.88
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:27:39.83
Gareth Flavell: ah deary maid it

00:27:40.02
Flav: Oh, yeah. And most people won't know that there was a second meeting, this time with Igor Tudor, that he was disgusted with your little naked body.

00:27:46.46
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:27:49.88
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:27:50.33
Flav: And like a big ogre, he threw your body like a baby at the wall. Yeah, yeah good stuff.

00:27:58.62
Gareth Flavell: Oh, dearie me. Well, thank you for that voice note. Good, good voice note.

00:28:01.09
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:02.02
Gareth Flavell: And what what a lovely person that the that that old lady had locked her car keys in her door and you took her back home to go and get the spare one, even though she just listened to, you know, that story there.

00:28:02.14
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:09.40
Flav: Yeah. Good lad.

00:28:14.04
Flav: Yeah.

00:28:15.74
Gareth Flavell: um

00:28:16.06
Flav: Oh, oh, oh.

00:28:17.59
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:28:19.70
Flav: Oh, oh. Wrecky, wrecky, wrecky, wrecky, wreck, wreck, wreck.

00:28:23.19
Gareth Flavell: yeah Oh, my God, that is disgusting.

00:28:27.58
Flav: I can't remember.

00:28:30.14
Gareth Flavell: Do you know what we're talking about today? i can't remember. No, I'm only joking. It is… Well, I was going to say the world's most bizarre stories, but i don't know if it's the world… And i don't know if they're the most bizarre, but I've kind of got some stories and they're just sentences and paragraphs because I'm not going to read everything out.

00:28:48.28
Gareth Flavell: And I'm quite glad we've started with this first one because this took Britain by storm when it came out. And there were still a kind of ah the stones that are unturned, but it is believed to be a bit. I'll just read it out.

00:29:06.42
Gareth Flavell: The Enfield Poltergeist, right?

00:29:09.09
Flav: Oh, yeah.

00:29:09.18
Gareth Flavell: North London family claimed their house was haunted by a violent poltergeist. Furniture moved, voices echoed through the walls, and one daughter was alleged allegedly levitated.

00:29:21.58
Gareth Flavell: Even journalists and police officers reported strange events. Proper can't sleep after watching the documentary type of stuff. Now,

00:29:33.37
Gareth Flavell: I mean, you've just laid your cards on the table about orbs and ghosts, but you you remember back to this, and especially, you know, the documentary that we that we both know. What was it called again?

00:29:44.38
Flav: um Ghostwatch.

00:29:45.98
Gareth Flavell: Yes.

00:29:46.84
Flav: Yeah, Ghostwatch was a dramatization or… like Well, now it'd be known as a mockumentary, but but but there weren't they certainly weren't common back then.

00:29:51.78
Gareth Flavell: Mockumentary, yeah.

00:29:56.18
Flav: And it would have been like 1985, 1986, maybe. Maybe little bit maybe in 19…

00:29:59.72
Gareth Flavell: Hmm.

00:30:00.12
Flav: maybe maybe a little bit old look maybe it was nineteen ninety I don't know exactly when it was, but it came out and it was essentially mockumentary based on the Enfield poltergeist. The Enfield poltergeist is known around the world, which is weird because Enfield is just an unassuming little suburb in in north northwest northeast London.

00:30:17.94
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:30:18.52
Flav: um And yeah, so Ghostwatch did a dramatization or a mockumentary about that, but they passed it off as if it was real.

00:30:32.82
Flav: And so we were watching it and we were watching it. It's like, oh my God, this is the scariest thing as well. So they've got a live camera and it's filmed as live.

00:30:40.28
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:30:41.11
Flav: And the these kids are sort of levitating and they're they're getting scratches all over them. And you're hearing you're hearing the the ghost talk on the pipes.

00:30:47.08
Gareth Flavell: Oh my god.

00:30:51.23
Gareth Flavell: Pipes.

00:30:52.19
Flav: Yeah.

00:30:52.38
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:30:53.30
Flav: Shut up. That's what said. you remember?

00:30:55.48
Gareth Flavell: Yes. Yes. Yes.

00:30:56.05
Flav: Told him to shut up. Shut up. Shut up. And they were really clever because the camera would pan around and in the curtain you'd see an out print of a man.

00:31:03.61
Gareth Flavell: yes yes

00:31:05.18
Flav: really It was really good. And I mean, I'd i'd watch it again.

00:31:09.59
Gareth Flavell: I mean, a for one of the, I think we did an episode. I don't know if we did it specifically on the end for, ah and on the end for all ghost watch, but it was part of it. And I did watch it back. Uh, and I still was like fast forwarding bits and looking away from the screen. Cause it is fucking, I remember watching at the time and it was horrible, but right.

00:31:29.53
Gareth Flavell: I mean, this is a bizarre story because it says that journalists and police reported on strange events as well as the family, but there was also embellished parts as well that they knew were hoaxy.

00:31:36.95
Flav: Yeah.

00:31:42.14
Gareth Flavell: But what, what like, is it, we've spoken quite a lot, right, on, like, last week, ah simulation theory, we've spoken about space, multi-dimensions, and just weird goings on.

00:31:56.31
Flav: yeah

00:31:59.48
Gareth Flavell: Where are you with these types of stories? Because we had a chat, didn't we, during the week? I don't if it was on this podcast or if it was on WhatsApp. I can't remember now. About your house.

00:32:11.58
Gareth Flavell: Your new house.

00:32:12.30
Flav: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:13.66
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:32:13.78
Flav: but Wait, it was on…

00:32:15.10
Gareth Flavell: Was it on this?

00:32:15.90
Flav: Yeah, I think it was on something. I don't remember.

00:32:19.13
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:32:19.21
Flav: don't remember. We speak so often. and ah can't remember when I spoke so much about it. but Yeah, there's like mike there's some really creepy stuff going on in our house.

00:32:27.08
Gareth Flavell: Hmm.

00:32:28.09
Flav: Um… Well, say creepy. It's only creepy if you if you're scared, isn't it? It's not… I don't even… Like, stuff's happened I can't explain. But I don't believe in ghosts. So it's not ghosts. It's something else.

00:32:43.07
Flav: But other people do think it's ghosts. But what i um I will refuse to be scared ghosts 44. It's one of the most pathetic things you could ever be.

00:32:55.03
Gareth Flavell: Right. Okay. I mean, I will never, ever have a but bad word to say about ghosts because… I'm looking around at the moment and if there is anything, you know, if there are any kind of vibrations or energy or different dimensions or whatever, I don't want to kind of antagonize.

00:33:16.63
Gareth Flavell: So I will just say that there are, there's a possibility. Actually, one of my favorite stories from doing this podcast and where I, what, do you mean?

00:33:25.34
Flav: Who do you think you are, Rick? Who do you think you are? Well, they' they've gone through. They understand what the afterlife is and they think, right, we're going to get Ricky because he doesn't believe we're real.

00:33:36.18
Gareth Flavell: Well, not that i Yeah, when you put it like that, it's a bit…

00:33:43.19
Flav: Show me any documented proof that that there is any afterlife. Just show me something and that I can believe. Just show me something.

00:33:50.39
Gareth Flavell: yeah There were some books and images when we were younger, quite iconic images that like still burnt in my brain,

00:33:54.07
Flav: Yeah, I remember them.

00:33:57.43
Gareth Flavell: right And I can't get away from those. So I will never kind of, bit but I will never put my hands up like you are doing right now and being like, mate, whatever you've got, come at me because there is no, sounds and sounds like it.

00:34:08.45
Flav: i'm not I'm not saying come at me, I'm just saying not scared.

00:34:11.29
Gareth Flavell: Oh, look look at you.

00:34:11.51
Flav: All right, then.

00:34:12.31
Gareth Flavell: I'm not scared.

00:34:12.54
Flav: All right.

00:34:12.89
Gareth Flavell: Look at him.

00:34:14.58
Flav: Prove to me you exist right now. Or this at three o'clock in the morning tonight, right? Prove to me then if you want to. If it has to be three o'clock, prove it to me then.

00:34:24.79
Gareth Flavell: How can you, how can those words leave your mouth? You are a madman.

00:34:27.45
Flav: Because I legitimately, legitimately impossible for ghosts to exist.

00:34:34.97
Gareth Flavell: ah what What am i god

00:34:35.51
Flav: Prove it to me. These are the list of things, sorry, Rick, that have happened in my house. um The smell of um incense in my office.

00:34:46.52
Flav: Strong smell of incense.

00:34:48.98
Gareth Flavell: I? Sorry, the the office you're sitting in now or at home?

00:34:51.26
Flav: No, no, home.

00:34:52.57
Gareth Flavell: Okay.

00:34:52.66
Flav: It's not an office. It's actually just a bedroom, but I don't know why we just call it that. ah So walking, footsteps.

00:35:01.92
Gareth Flavell: Oh,

00:35:02.71
Flav: Bear in mind the house is detached. It's not connected to another house. um Will was in bed and heard footprints footsteps in the attic above his room, which is directly above his room.

00:35:15.44
Gareth Flavell: God.

00:35:15.86
Flav: And we have a staircase that goes up to the attic. And there's nothing in the attic.

00:35:18.26
Gareth Flavell: Oh, God.

00:35:20.79
Flav: It's just floorboards. So we haven't done anything. We haven't finished um working on it yet. So what I saw was when I came up the stairs to the kids, are basically there a staircase that leads to two bedrooms and a small shower room, right?

00:35:36.79
Flav: So we've gone up there, the shower room light was on and there was somebody or something behind the door, the crack in the door. like You know the conventional horror movie you see a shadow through the door?

00:35:47.22
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

00:35:49.69
Flav: it was um It was something that was moving behind it. And I opened the door and there was nothing in there. um Ollie's heard teacups being placed down in the, not like old fashioned China, not what we have.

00:36:02.55
Gareth Flavell: yeah.

00:36:04.09
Flav: Yeah, so those are the things that have happened thus far.

00:36:06.97
Gareth Flavell: and Yeah. And you're you're okay? Like, it just try doesn't bother you because it's not real? Right, okay, that's interesting.

00:36:14.26
Flav: Yeah.

00:36:17.52
Flav: Mate, I want it to be real.

00:36:17.82
Gareth Flavell: i' Mate, I'd have to leave the house.

00:36:20.98
Flav: No.

00:36:21.18
Gareth Flavell: i'd like Even though I've paid all this money, we now have to leave.

00:36:26.01
Flav: And and and and you out of the corner of your eye, you do see things like moving and stuff like that, like like it's a shadow. But it's all, it's all

00:36:33.02
Gareth Flavell: That is ridiculous.

00:36:35.83
Flav: because we know, we've all talked about it. We're seeing, looking for things, subconsciously looking for things that are just not there.

00:36:41.02
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. One of my favourite stories…

00:36:44.65
Flav: And if they are, what can I do about it? I'm going to sit there and be scared every night when I go to bed.

00:36:48.82
Gareth Flavell: Can you not get like a…

00:36:48.91
Flav: Someone

00:36:50.40
Gareth Flavell: What do you call it? An exorcist type character in.

00:36:56.84
Flav: from the church maybe come and bless the house or some shit.

00:37:00.66
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, dash holy water all over the gaff.

00:37:01.48
Flav: Ollie's been walking around. Ollie does believe in all this shit.

00:37:04.49
Gareth Flavell: Well, there you go.

00:37:05.43
Flav: Yeah.

00:37:06.09
Gareth Flavell: One of my favorite stories that you ever told on this pod, and I had no idea about it is when you used to, when you were younger and you hide under the covers when you were scared of ghosts and you got your your family, the army of ghosts.

00:37:16.63
Flav: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All my older dead all the dead ones.

00:37:19.89
Gareth Flavell: LAUGHTER

00:37:21.82
Flav: Could you protect me against the ghosts? Yeah, when I was a kid, I was well scared, yeah. It was like, I'd go Nanny Betty, Andrew, Grandad Sid, um Uncle Bill, um just list them all off. Anyone dead I knew.

00:37:38.94
Gareth Flavell: yeah

00:37:39.18
Flav: Nanny Margaret. ah could you just like make sure protect me against the ghosts?

00:37:46.36
Gareth Flavell: You…

00:37:46.39
Flav: That's what I used

00:37:46.80
Gareth Flavell: Maybe you need to do that for this house.

00:37:52.13
Flav: say. I think at 44, even if the ghosts are proved to be real, what what what is there to be afraid of?

00:37:59.16
Gareth Flavell: Hmm.

00:37:59.90
Flav: If they're like poltergeists and shit's flying across the room and shit, then that is that would scare me that instance.

00:38:04.79
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:38:06.33
Flav: But the fact that poltergeists cannot exist means that it will never happen.

00:38:11.42
Gareth Flavell: I mean, you could be, what what imagine, woke woken up, middle of the night, you're bent over the bed, getting bummed out by a poltergeist, and your missus sat upright, tore watching happen.

00:38:19.07
Flav: Yeah.

00:38:22.07
Flav: She'll never be able to look at me in same way again.

00:38:23.48
Gareth Flavell: No, no, and she wouldn't able to see anything. she's just be seeing you jerking up and down, getting terrorised over the bed.

00:38:30.55
Flav: There was a film called The Entity in the…

00:38:32.54
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I remember you told me about this.

00:38:32.80
Flav: set

00:38:34.02
Gareth Flavell: I i never watched it. No way.

00:38:35.42
Flav: The ghosts would have sex with women, basically.

00:38:39.06
Gareth Flavell: Jesus Christ.

00:38:40.34
Flav: Yeah.

00:38:41.69
Gareth Flavell: Right. Okay. Right. Okay. Right.

00:38:42.87
Flav: but So the end the case in point of the Enfield Postgeist is that most of it it was seen to be embellished and over the top.

00:38:43.25
Gareth Flavell: Ghost.

00:38:49.88
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:38:51.27
Flav: So everything else is probably explained away by in other ways. I don't want to, mate. I would love the idea of some sort of afterlife happen.

00:38:58.81
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:38:58.78
Flav: I genuinely would prefer that to where I am right now, which is there's nothing. So I'd be excited more than anything. There just is no proof. It's why a telepathy thing blew my mind.

00:39:10.58
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:39:11.45
Flav: But people, someone poo-pooed it, and I understand it, because I think it's much more likely, I think we talked about this, it's much more likely that the whole thing is a setup than they're actually being able to, that telepathy exists. But…

00:39:24.49
Gareth Flavell: Because I listened one of the tapes, I think. And the bit where it got me was um them not being able to submit it scientifically because of something or other.

00:39:40.71
Flav: wasn't it it's the controlled It wasn't a controlled environment.

00:39:43.10
Gareth Flavell: Something like that, yeah.

00:39:44.09
Flav: Yeah.

00:39:44.89
Gareth Flavell: And I was a bit like, yeah.

00:39:44.89
Flav: um So, look, you have to choose whether to believe it or not. And the likelihood is that it's all set up.

00:39:50.14
Gareth Flavell: Right, okay.

00:39:50.17
Flav: Because how can telepathy exist?

00:39:54.52
Gareth Flavell: yeah i Yeah, I mean, I don't know. this is this is the…

00:39:59.64
Flav: did you Did you listen to the podcast?

00:40:01.56
Gareth Flavell: i listened to one episode.

00:40:03.13
Flav: So it gets more mental. or The Telepathy Tapes podcast. It's been listened to millions of people. was a massive, massive deal.

00:40:07.16
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:08.95
Flav: It gets even more mental. So basically they they focus on kids with non-verbal autism. let's get Occasionally a couple that are verbal but not. It's more of the kind of, you know, autism is a slight sliding scale depending on and you can be wherever you are in it.

00:40:24.44
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:40:25.27
Flav: The kids that they worked with were non-verbal, so at one end of the scale. um And they found this play where they would talk about this place called The Hill.

00:40:36.79
Flav: And the hill is where when they would meditate or fall asleep, they would all meet up in this sort of world. this It's like a may imagine like an internet chat room, but it exists in their minds.

00:40:49.14
Flav: And they would all meet there and they would share information with each other that there's no way that they would know.

00:40:57.22
Gareth Flavell: Right.

00:40:57.43
Flav: unless they'd actually been talking to them. So they didn't know each other in real life, but they would go to the hill, all these non-verbal autistic kids, to to communicate with each other.

00:41:08.02
Gareth Flavell: I mean, it sounds… I can't say that it sounds plausible because we we you know there's no record of it. like We can't record and measure it and stuff like that.

00:41:17.62
Flav: Let's…

00:41:20.41
Gareth Flavell: But how do these things… how you Do you see the news yesterday dropped? This has happened twice now with this podcast. One about space when we're saying we've never been back there. Fucking week later.

00:41:30.97
Gareth Flavell: Oh, by the way, we're off to space. See you in a bit. Great. And then we were talking last week about… um Fuck, what was it called again?

00:41:42.04
Gareth Flavell: The… What theory was it

00:41:46.51
Flav: I don't know. I can't remember.

00:41:47.32
Gareth Flavell: um Anyway, we're talking about no the Neuralink from Elon Musk.

00:41:51.29
Flav: ah Yeah, yeah. I watched Mass last night, did you?

00:41:54.14
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, and he's come out again with his Neuralink saying that they they've they've created this chip for the brain and he was he was saying it can give humans godlike powers.

00:42:08.14
Flav: does that even mean?

00:42:09.34
Gareth Flavell: Well, I mean, it sounds good. I'm sold. I want a Neuralink.

00:42:15.31
Flav: He's an odd man.

00:42:16.38
Gareth Flavell: He is an odd man.

00:42:18.54
Flav: It's weird. He can do some really good stuff. like The Neuralink stuff is, I think that's the next step, right? the next thing of in evolving as a human being is using technology to make our lives better.

00:42:29.94
Flav: But especially people have suffered injury and in making their life better, that's such a good thing. But then he's just gone mental and bought Twitter.

00:42:35.77
Gareth Flavell: He was saying…

00:42:38.12
Flav: That's where it all started to wrong, I think, when he bought Twitter. Yeah.

00:42:42.36
Gareth Flavell: people that cur that have never been able to see can see again people that have never been able to walk can walk that that's that's what he's claiming and it's all types of things like that so I was like okay fair enough right let's move on from that I want to say another kind of inexplicable thing the beast of Bodmin Moor do you know of this

00:42:49.82
Flav: Is that true? Yeah.

00:43:09.02
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:10.46
Gareth Flavell: For decades, people in Cornwall have claimed to see a giant black panther roaming the moors. Livestock deaths, blurry photos, mysterious track.

00:43:22.07
Gareth Flavell: And it's, you know, they call it Britain's answer to Bigfoot. Now, we are, I would say we're both kind of um wildlife enthusiasts.

00:43:34.81
Gareth Flavell: Not to the point where we're like writing down about birds and shit like that, but… How pro plausible is Big Cats on moors in England?

00:43:45.20
Flav: I think not very plausible.

00:43:48.86
Gareth Flavell: Do you not think?

00:43:48.82
Flav: I mean, not no. You would find skulls or you'd find bones, right? You'd find evidence of it.

00:44:00.76
Flav: There might be cats, at ah a big cat, and someone's gone back to the pub and gone, I've just seen this. you know It just gets embeett embellished. But um what are we talking about?

00:44:07.29
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:44:11.29
Flav: Like an escaped jaguar or something like that

00:44:14.74
Gareth Flavell: yeah I mean, i don't know. i So ah I went for a walk down the river yesterday. Something caught the corner of my eye. It looked like a cat, a black cat, green eyes, but a lot bigger, like straight up before even this. And carry on looking through, like staring through the bushes and stuff like that. And I didn't see it, but it did feel at that time that I'd seen something quite big.

00:44:39.19
Gareth Flavell: obviously mind paying tricks on me i also remember actually when i fucking haven't thought about this in years i went to a wedding and it was in these lovely manor grounds right and whilst i was there i was very inebriated i had some had a little puff of the mary joanna and

00:44:58.97
Flav: o I've

00:45:00.98
Gareth Flavell: The lad I was with, we saw this rabbit, right? And everyone was… to ah We thought it was a rabbit, but this rabbit was, like, supersized. It was the biggest rabbit I've ever seen.

00:45:12.86
Flav: seen those massive ones.

00:45:12.99
Gareth Flavell: it It was like a dog, honestly. it was It was genuinely like a dog. And people were saying, what you've seen is a monk jack deer. They're everywhere here.

00:45:23.48
Flav: ah Yeah, yeah.

00:45:24.92
Gareth Flavell: But I swear I saw a big rabbit. Like, I could have… If someone said… On your family's life, did you see a monk jack deer or a rabbit? I would have said, it was a rabbit.

00:45:34.07
Flav: I didn't know what monk deer was before I moved down here. was like, um ah ah don't they don't look like rabbits, to be fair. You can say like a small dog or something like that. They definitely don't look like a rabbit.

00:45:46.49
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, but yeah I was fucked up as well, so

00:45:48.94
Flav: All right. I was just, it was interesting. um i was just looking that the the kind of reasons for the but the beast of Bodmin and why it exists, people think it was like a massive black cat, like a ah like a leopard or a jaguar or or a puma.

00:46:06.78
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:46:07.48
Flav: It says, before the list this legislation, it was legal to keep exotic big cats as pets in the yeah UK before 1976's Dangerous Wild Animals Act. When the strict licensing laws were implemented, some owners chose to release their pumas or leopards into the wild to avoid them by being euthanised.

00:46:25.00
Flav: Zoo directors have claimed since claimed that packs of pumas may have been released from regional menageries during this era. So there may have been big cats that people released in Cornwall who have since died and the the sort of that the story goes on there's apparently in 1995 the Fowey skull less than a week after the government denial a boy discovers a large cat skull on the banks of the river Fowey excitement peaks until the natural history movement determines it belongs to an imported leopard skin rug yeah

00:46:55.40
Gareth Flavell: Here we go.

00:47:05.05
Gareth Flavell: okay Well, think i think

00:47:08.09
Flav: most of these things are bullshit in there

00:47:09.88
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Have you ever heard of the um the story of um in Afghanistan, the the the giant men, the giant people that live in live in the caves?

00:47:21.00
Flav: Yeah.

00:47:22.60
Gareth Flavell: So there is this, I mean, it's exactly what that is. i don't know too much about it, but there is these kind of like, um it's known to the people of Afghan,

00:47:27.13
Flav: yeah

00:47:32.18
Gareth Flavell: that there are giant men, like 10 foot, 12 foot men that live in these caves. And they've been seen, they've been spotted, they've been photographed. And apparently when they there's a case when ah America and Britain invaded Afghanistan, that one of these men were actually captured and taken away.

00:47:53.98
Gareth Flavell: But, you know, he's probably living in Area 51 with the UFOs scotching there.

00:47:59.35
Flav: Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of bullshit.

00:48:03.33
Gareth Flavell: Bullshit. Right. Okay.

00:48:04.44
Flav: what about

00:48:04.62
Gareth Flavell: Fair enough.

00:48:05.24
Flav: What about um about Bigfoot? Bullshit as well, isn't it?

00:48:09.53
Gareth Flavell: Well, do you sit ye think, you think?

00:48:11.50
Flav: Yeah. They'd have more than… They'd have more… They'd have more fucking evidence if he exists. It's a giant fucking grizzly bear thing walking around the woods. Of course it's not. They would have seen it again.

00:48:26.90
Gareth Flavell: but yeah What about the, uh, the tracks, the paws, the hair that they found? all these different things. But I kind of like with Bigfoot, I am more of the um kind of thinking that it's it's a bit of a hoaxy type, bear type.

00:48:47.54
Gareth Flavell: i don't I don't really believe Bigfoot exists.

00:48:50.26
Flav: No, like the video, you remember the video from, it was just a bloke in a suit walking.

00:48:54.26
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:56.50
Flav: People want to believe, they want to be amazed and they want something to they want the unknown to be real because it gives them faith that there might be something else.

00:49:07.19
Flav: um But it's nonsense, isn't it? Like the Loch Ness Monster, Loch Ness Monster, also complete nonsense.

00:49:10.55
Gareth Flavell: Right, okay, what about…

00:49:15.50
Gareth Flavell: Don't say that.

00:49:16.02
Flav: What it is!

00:49:18.87
Gareth Flavell: Can it not be hiding in the depths of the lock?

00:49:21.64
Flav: It is quite deep, as they say.

00:49:23.22
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, it's very deep. I think they've done… It's weird, isn't it, right, how… it's I kind of feel like it's like wrestling, that it's we kind of know that it's not there…

00:49:36.25
Gareth Flavell: but we're making believe to carry on tradition, tourism, like, yeah, well, it's not hurting anyone, is it?

00:49:42.18
Flav: It's quite a nice, isn't it? It's a nice thing to believe in. I wouldn't… Not really. And you want it to be real. or I used to be fascinated with it a lot this monster when I was a kid. Loved it.

00:49:51.83
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:49:53.11
Flav: um So, yeah, and it's it creates industry, local industry. And every now and then you get and another a picture or someone's seen a shape and everyone gets excited.

00:50:03.87
Gareth Flavell: I like it.

00:50:04.50
Flav: Yeah, i mean, there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it.

00:50:07.00
Gareth Flavell: ah I think there's been some pretty extensive scientific research of radars bouncing and scanning lake beds and stuff like that where…

00:50:14.90
Flav: yeah yeah Yeah, they can scan the whole fucking thing.

00:50:17.24
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, where that I don't think he might be hiding. Okay, what about this one?

00:50:21.99
Flav: Go on.

00:50:23.06
Gareth Flavell: ah The Dyatlov Pass incident, right?

00:50:27.79
Flav: Go on, don't know what that is.

00:50:28.70
Gareth Flavell: Okay. Nine experienced this happened in Russia. Nine experienced hikers fled their tent barefoot in sub-zero temperatures before mysteriously dying in the mountains. Strange injuries, missing tongues, and radiation traces.

00:50:48.48
Gareth Flavell: It's one of the most creepiest unsolved cases ever. Like, what happened there? i mean, it's like… That's, that okay, that's that's no ghost.

00:51:01.62
Flav: Yeah.

00:51:01.81
Gareth Flavell: That's no fucking Bodmin Moor. And this, nine hikers, sub-zero conditions, left their tent, everything was on fire, everything was going nice, found barefoot, tongues missing.

00:51:19.39
Flav: I don't know.

00:51:20.28
Gareth Flavell: You don't know.

00:51:21.11
Flav: but what I don't think it's a ghost, but ah something bad happened to him for sure. Like, did you see the other day, which is a bit more based in reality? Did that actually happen?

00:51:31.52
Flav: It 100% happened.

00:51:31.90
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:51:33.78
Flav: What's it called?

00:51:34.68
Gareth Flavell: ah I can't pronounce it. D-Y-A-T-L-O-V.

00:51:38.86
Flav: D-Y.

00:51:42.33
Gareth Flavell: Pass. Incident.

00:51:45.37
Flav: um Did you see a man was prosecuted for leaving his wife on the top of a hill where when the weather came in and she died? And he went to get help.

00:51:52.92
Gareth Flavell: What?

00:51:55.70
Flav: Just recently, is because he left his wife to die, basically.

00:52:00.70
Gareth Flavell: That's mean, isn't it?

00:52:01.91
Flav: but Someone's got go and get help.

00:52:04.44
Gareth Flavell: Oh, is that what happened?

00:52:05.78
Flav: I don't know the details of it. Anyway, Detelov Pass incident. The Detelov Pass incident is one of the most famous unsolved mysteries in the 20th century. In February 1959, nine experienced heisters from the Ural Polytechnic Institute died in northern Ural Mountains under bizarre and terrifying circumstances.

00:52:22.78
Flav: Their expedition was led by Igor Detelov. yeah tiatlov which is why the Arabian was known as the Dyatlov Pass. The group set up camp on the slope of the mountain called Kalyat Shackle.

00:52:39.29
Flav: The name roughly translates from the local Mansi language as Dead Mountain. and the hunkers When the hikers failed to return, search parties found their tent cut open from the inside. Footprints showing they'd fled barefoot or lightly dressed in freezing temperatures.

00:52:55.67
Flav: Bodies scattered across the snow and forest. Some of the victims appearing to have died of hypothermia. Others with severe internal injuries including crushed ribs and skull fractures. One woman was missing her tongue. Traces of radiation was found on some clothing.

00:53:14.39
Gareth Flavell: I mean, that is tough to explain, isn't it?

00:53:15.28
Flav: Tough to explain.

00:53:18.30
Flav: Some of the theories are… ah

00:53:22.97
Flav: A avalanche.

00:53:25.72
Gareth Flavell: What?

00:53:26.81
Flav: Yeah. Caused panic in the tent, forcing them to escape quickly in brutal conditions in 2021 Russian authorities officially concluded the avalanche was the likely cause.

00:53:38.14
Gareth Flavell: I don't know if I believe that.

00:53:41.05
Flav: Well…

00:53:41.22
Gareth Flavell: Traces of radiation. It's got to be like the Incredible Hulk type of person walking around Russia, going through people's tents, stealing their tongues, crushing their chests.

00:53:48.70
Flav: Well, an avalanche would explain it wouldn't it?

00:53:52.91
Gareth Flavell: See? Yeah, I've got it. Nailed it. Done.

00:53:55.90
Flav: Hulk. all Alright, you're saying the Hulk I'm going with an avalanche as well.

00:53:58.90
Gareth Flavell: Right, fine. Fair enough.

00:54:00.32
Flav: Well,

00:54:01.55
Gareth Flavell: We've got a few more here. ah that Actually, that there is one. This this isn't like a… It's just a weird freak one that I saw, which I quite liked. So this is the the Navajo blanket.

00:54:15.61
Gareth Flavell: A man watching an episode of Antiques Roadshow noticed a Navajo blanket that closely resembled an an heirloom that his grandmother left him.

00:54:27.32
Gareth Flavell: The textile had simply sat in his closet for many years, completely forgotten. After seeing the television show appraise a similar blanket for 300,000…

00:54:40.98
Gareth Flavell: he quickly decided to get his own item properly authenticated. Experts confirmed its immense historical value as a rare first ah chief's blanket.

00:54:55.16
Gareth Flavell: He put it up for auction where it stalled for $1.5 million. dollars

00:55:00.26
Flav: Oh, shit.

00:55:01.30
Gareth Flavell: Can you imagine what watching fucking Antiques Roadshow, right? And you're like, babe, we got one of those, didn't we? oh gee it's it in the wardrobe? I can't get it. And then, like, this guy was on dis disabilities. He was poor as fuck. He was, like, really, like, living through it.

00:55:19.26
Gareth Flavell: And then that he's got that in his wardrobe. 1.5 milli.

00:55:24.51
Flav: That's incredible.

00:55:25.88
Gareth Flavell: That is incredible.

00:55:25.82
Flav: It's like a dream, isn't It was like when your your sister found like a tin with loads of old 20 pound note banknotes.

00:55:33.88
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, thousands in the new house he just moved into. She took to a bank, changed it up, kept it.

00:55:37.34
Flav: what what What did she do in the end?

00:55:42.39
Flav: So they they allowed us to exchange old currency?

00:55:44.57
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:45.69
Flav: Interesting. like I don't know what what happens then. Does that, like, do they just take that off? Where does that, I guess they just create new money, don't they?

00:55:52.70
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:55:52.67
Flav: don't know. Cause we've got loads of, if anyone knows what to do with this, um we've got loads of old Swiss bank notes that are out of date.

00:56:04.06
Flav: And we'll say loads, probably about 500 quid's worth. But ah b UK banks don't take them. No one takes them. So not quite sure what to do.

00:56:13.62
Gareth Flavell: We've got, um like, my missus old man, he was in the Merchant Navy.

00:56:20.60
Flav: Yeah.

00:56:21.34
Gareth Flavell: when he was younger so he's been to all these countries all around the world so he's got loads of different currency like loads not we're not talking like loads of money in monetary value but as in he's just got loads of old pennies and this and that from south africa from fucking japan from wherever it's pretty cool like some of it must be worth money i i expect but um yeah we don't know what to do with either but what do you do with that

00:56:50.11
Flav: I've got to go to SNB cashier's office in in Zurich.

00:56:57.73
Flav: Or I can post cash for coins. That doesn't sound ah sound good, does it?

00:57:05.22
Gareth Flavell: You ain't getting that. what

00:57:07.57
Flav: says cash for coins, post Swiss franc banknotes. using Royal Mail Tracks to secure a courier and they will transfer the valuation straight into your bank account.

00:57:18.83
Gareth Flavell: Nah.

00:57:18.84
Flav: called Cash for Coins.

00:57:20.31
Gareth Flavell: Nah. They'll never do that. there Sorry, Mr. Flavreau, the money never arrived.

00:57:24.18
Flav: Yeah. is

00:57:28.18
Flav: Yeah, we're called Cash for Coins.

00:57:30.04
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

00:57:30.58
Flav: That's what I should say at the end. the phone down. All right. all right

00:57:36.47
Gareth Flavell: the The last one that i'll ah that is a bit of a weird one as well. ah The David Sneddon vanishing. In 2004, 24-year-old American student David Sneddon vanished while hiking solo through Yunnan province in southern China.

00:57:56.22
Gareth Flavell: don't pronounced that correctly. Leading officials to presume he had died. However, a stunning twist emerged in 2016 When South Korean intelligence uncovered evidence indicating he was actually alive, reports revealed that Northern Korean agents had abducted Sneddon to serve a specific regime purpose.

00:58:21.98
Gareth Flavell: He was allegedly forced to live in Pyongyang and become the personal English tutor for the young Kim Jong-un. This bizarre kidnapping case exposed to very shocking international reach of state-sponsored abductions. you imagine that?

00:58:39.67
Gareth Flavell: In 2004, you go missing, your family think you're dead, you're in some foothills in China. Then 2016, there's rumours that you're still alive and you've been commandeered by norfo korea North Korea having to fucking teach English.

00:58:54.41
Flav: Mm-hmm.

00:58:56.89
Gareth Flavell: you're not even an English teacher. What am I doing here? He's teaching me English. Mate, I can just talk.

00:59:01.97
Flav: I want to live.

00:59:02.58
Gareth Flavell: I can just speak. like What do you want from me?

00:59:05.37
Flav: um I've got one for you.

00:59:07.06
Gareth Flavell: Good.

00:59:07.58
Flav: Ho Van Lang, known as the real-life Tarzan, lived in the deep forest of central Vietnam's Quang Nguyen

00:59:16.95
Gareth Flavell: Go on.

00:59:18.49
Flav: province for over 40 years. He fled into the jungle with his father, Ho Van Tar, in 1972 after US bombing during the Vietnam War called several members of their family. summary of their incredible survival story covers the following milestones so they lived in isolation for 40 years because they thought the war was still going on

00:59:39.64
Gareth Flavell: Fuck.

00:59:40.43
Flav: hmm

00:59:41.34
Gareth Flavell: did and what and Did he know when he come out? Did he die there? What happened?

00:59:47.10
Flav: I think he died of liver cancer at 52.

00:59:49.80
Gareth Flavell: Oh, that's a shame.

00:59:50.74
Flav: um Hiro Anuda, Japanese Imperial Army soldier who stayed on the Lubang Island in the Philippines for 29 years after World War II concluded, believing the war was not over. He refused to surrender until his former commander formally relieved him of duty in 1974. 29 Yeah. Yeah.

01:00:08.57
Flav: twenty nine years

01:00:08.73
Gareth Flavell: that

01:00:12.23
Gareth Flavell: That's fucking mental. Can you imagine you calling out to him?

01:00:14.01
Flav: yeah

01:00:16.47
Gareth Flavell: David, the war's over. No, no, no, not until, right, years go past have to get his former boss to come back to go to the island.

01:00:19.70
Flav: No.

01:00:24.50
Gareth Flavell: It's over, David. Oh, right. Okay, fine, fine. As you said it, I'll do it. Right, okay. Those have been some ah inexplicable stories, which I want to believe, but I think, you know, Flav's a skeptic until he gets bummed out by a poltergeist tonight.

01:00:42.03
Gareth Flavell: What time did you say? 3 o'clock? 3 a.m.

01:00:44.05
Flav: 3am. Yeah, let me know. hit Hit me up.

01:00:45.31
Gareth Flavell: 3 a.m. Good.

01:00:45.87
Flav: Hit me up.

01:00:46.81
Gareth Flavell: Here you go.

01:00:46.84
Flav: up There's a couple of good news around the world. you want some good news from around the world?

01:00:51.54
Gareth Flavell: Hell yeah, I do.

01:00:52.66
Flav: Malaria vaccine shows real-world life-saving impact.

01:00:56.50
Gareth Flavell: good

01:00:57.11
Flav: um Who updates that the RTS malaria vaccine helped avert an estimated one in eight child deaths among eligible children?

01:01:09.31
Flav: How about the vaccines? Don't take the vaccines. Oh, my God. Fuck's sake. Two, kiwi birds return to New Zealand, the New Zealand capital after a century away.

01:01:22.95
Gareth Flavell: Oh, that's nice.

01:01:24.28
Flav: yep ah Brazil's Atlantic forest shows its lowest deforestation in 40 years.

01:01:32.35
Gareth Flavell: Good.

01:01:33.07
Flav: That's good. ah The world has passed a milestone for ocean protection.

01:01:40.00
Flav: 10% of the ocean is now officially within protected or conserved areas up from 8.6 in 2024.

01:01:47.19
Gareth Flavell: good

01:01:47.14
Flav: That's good. Yep. ah Electric trucks are having a breakout moment. Global led by China.

01:01:56.44
Gareth Flavell: I mean, that's good.

01:01:57.87
Flav: Yep. Yep.

01:01:58.84
Gareth Flavell: but But do we boo it because, you know, it's China.

01:02:01.27
Flav: China. China. ta China.

01:02:02.62
Gareth Flavell: but Yeah, we we we we have China.

01:02:03.14
Flav: Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:05.54
Gareth Flavell: China.

01:02:05.72
Flav: ah yeah um ah yeah All right. Okay. Let's do it. Okay.

01:02:08.82
Gareth Flavell: No, no, no, not saying it.

01:02:10.23
Flav: All right.

01:02:10.58
Gareth Flavell: what It's what we, what we what we ah you know, what we're led to believe.

01:02:10.95
Flav: No, let's celebrate. Let's celebrate.

01:02:14.13
Flav: Yeah, we'll celebrate.

01:02:14.80
Gareth Flavell: China's bad.

01:02:14.75
Flav: We'll celebrate. Yeah, China.

01:02:17.27
Gareth Flavell: I say celebrate it.

01:02:17.43
Flav: Right. Celebrate. celebrate.

01:02:19.52
Gareth Flavell: Celebrate Okay, good. Good. That was good.

01:02:22.11
Flav: Good.

01:02:22.89
Gareth Flavell: That's good. Good news roundup. Okay. We are going to be going on to dilemmas and the dilemma is called follow my dreams, but which dream?

01:02:33.46
Gareth Flavell: And then we've got something only, you know, Greek petting zoo. The topic for next week is going to be Amsterdam.

01:02:44.86
Gareth Flavell: Amsterdam. We fortunately, we, we have a, an Amsterdam pro.

01:02:45.72
Flav: I need to go back. Yeah.

01:02:50.07
Gareth Flavell: Flav. ah

01:02:51.03
Flav: do

01:02:52.79
Gareth Flavell: So what it is now, what it was, the sex, the drugs, the stags, and everything in between, the history, the canals, you name it.

01:03:05.88
Gareth Flavell: Amsterdam is a magnificent place. Been there twice. Had a boo. I'd love to go again, actually, but as a more of a, as an adult, like actually you'll you'll do a lot more explaining about because you have been there many times.

01:03:17.89
Flav: I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going to Amsterdam with you.

01:03:20.69
Gareth Flavell: No, that's fair.

01:03:21.03
Flav: I would love to, but you'd just be fucking walking around everywhere. I'm like, let's sit down. Let's take some mushrooms.

01:03:26.65
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:03:27.56
Flav: Let's just, you know have a spliff, drink some beer.

01:03:29.18
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. Yeah.

01:03:30.26
Flav: You'll be going to No, but I need to see Anne Frank's house. I have to go to Anne Frank's

01:03:33.46
Gareth Flavell: oh I was going to do that joke.

01:03:34.01
Flav: Do you? Do you? What?

01:03:35.67
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, I said I was going to that joke.

01:03:37.21
Flav: All right. so I know you.

01:03:37.69
Gareth Flavell: yeah yeah exactly do yeah how long are these mushrooms going to take like how long do i trip for because at 10 past four we we're both booked in to have a vip tour of and frank's and you'll be like

01:03:39.34
Flav: It's not a joke. You would definitely want to go there.

01:03:51.86
Flav: I wouldn't mind tripping and walking around. That would be right. Do both. You do a bit for me and I'll do a bit for you.

01:03:57.05
Gareth Flavell: yeah okay yeah yeah yeah that's fine that's fine

01:04:00.63
Flav: take more and Take more of these, Ricky.

01:04:02.71
Gareth Flavell: so if you

01:04:03.72
Flav: All One more house.

01:04:04.79
Gareth Flavell: If you've got any fun stories on Amsterdam or anything that, you know, is off the beaten track that you've ever visited in Amsterdam, send it in to ladsanonpod at gmail.com and we will, of course, read it out.

01:04:04.86
Flav: One more.

01:04:20.95
Gareth Flavell: Now, we are going to be going on to Dilemmas. Where is the jingle? Um… um

01:04:29.05
Flav: You don't know the jingle, Rick. Do it. The button.

01:04:31.36
Gareth Flavell: Oh, don't know which one it is.

01:04:33.02
Flav: Try. Just guess one.

01:04:34.07
Gareth Flavell: Right, okay, that one.

01:05:04.61
Gareth Flavell: That's such a fucking good jingle.

01:05:06.72
Flav: It's good, isn't it?

01:05:08.23
Gareth Flavell: Follow my dreams, but which dream? Hi Ricky and Flav. Sorry for the late reply. Been trying to keep myself off social media with current events going on and all the racism, etc.

01:05:24.89
Gareth Flavell: I would prefer to keep this anonymous if possible, but to be honest, don't care if you do read my name out. You know the show. This is our 150th episode. We have never dropped, ever dropped anyone's name.

01:05:39.70
Gareth Flavell: Ever. That didn't want to be mentioned. Anyone else listen to this? If you have a dilemma, something only you know, we will never, ever mention your name. Lads Anonymous, it's in the name. You are kept anonymous.

01:05:51.70
Gareth Flavell: Basically, the dilemma I have is one you've already spoken about on the pod regarding careers. When I was 17, I had a couple of weeks work experience with my old man and quickly realized that was my dream job. My dad is my idol and I aspire to be like him.

01:06:08.50
Gareth Flavell: After the work experience, I went and yeah i went to the interview stage, where which ended up going down to the final four, in which required to undergo two interviews. But unfortunately, I wasn't given the job as I was in 18, and they needed to hire two females to reach the male-to-female workplace ratio.

01:06:30.97
Gareth Flavell: Fast forward to now, my old man is due to retire next year and has offered my brothers and me the opportunity to fill in his shoes. However, I'm worried now that from 17 to 25 years old, I've not really done much in my life and probably lost countless brain cells through booze and drugs. My old man is selling the job in the worst way possible because it's a hell of a lot of commitment. The hours are quite unsociable, but the returns in terms of money are absolutely unreal.

01:07:03.90
Gareth Flavell: My issues are that I don't believe i can pass the FCA or FSCA exam. And I've also finally, after several years of chopping and changing jobs, not holding one down longer than three months, I finally found my feet. and have been working with my boss for a year now, and have aspirations of going in on my own and starting my own business, in brackets, window cleaning, but also have several other ideas to go with the business that my boss doesn't and really ah feels I can't truly succeed in. As I say, my dad's job…

01:07:40.22
Gareth Flavell: brackets, stockbroker, like the Wolf of Wall Street, trading metals, etc. is probably my dream job and has very lucrative pay. But I don't know whether to chase my dream of being my own boss, having my own business, or to chase the dream job that might not even be around in a few years. So my question is, do I follow my dream job dreams or my dream of being my own boss and running my own business?

01:08:11.86
Flav: ah

01:08:15.67
Flav: I mean, i can only tell you that my life improved when I started working for myself rather than someone else.

01:08:22.49
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:08:23.03
Flav: And the freedom that I have still have remained to this day and not having to feed into anyone. I'm not essentially making money for someone else. The fact is if you're employed at a company, you should be making them more money than you cost.

01:08:39.79
Flav: That's the whole point.

01:08:39.86
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:08:41.56
Flav: So that means your value is greater, certainly certainly with the support you've been given, than you're being paid. So that always sort of… I understood it. That's the way it's their job.

01:08:51.83
Flav: They create an opportunity for you that you wouldn't otherwise have. But my experience with it was… um As soon as I went on my own, I i became a lot happier and more content. Stop brokering, I'd imagine it's quite a stressful job.

01:09:08.82
Flav: So um why not try out for a year? um where Why not try out you know working for yourself for a year if it is window cleaning? Barriers to entry is quite low, right? So yeah try it out for a year. If you don't like it, then go and do the stop brokering or the all the other way around.

01:09:27.19
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:09:28.18
Flav: I don't think you can lose here.

01:09:29.82
Gareth Flavell: ah Yeah. ah Like my initial thought of… your dad's your idol and you want to follow in his footsteps. You also kind of want to please, you know, your dad as well.

01:09:41.53
Gareth Flavell: Uh, as we all do, we you know, we look for those, um, kind of the adulation from your father, but is it your dream job? And is it not your dad's dream job? That's the, that's where I kind of feel like you need to ask yourself those questions.

01:10:00.56
Gareth Flavell: Um, And you've spoken about how lucrative it is. um Are you just, you know, married to the idea that you're going to have a fuckload of money because it may not even work out that way with all the pressures and stuff like that.

01:10:18.81
Gareth Flavell: And again, you've said, you know, your you your other dream is being your own person, having your own business.

01:10:18.98
Flav: Mm-hmm.

01:10:25.08
Gareth Flavell: an again, i know it's a bit cop-outy, but what, as humans, it's a nice thing to be like, what do you do for a living? I have my own business. I work for myself, ah which is great. But the kind of reality of it is ah how do you get there and how you just how do you sustain it and how do you be consistent in it and how do you still enjoy doing it?

01:10:49.18
Gareth Flavell: um

01:10:51.93
Gareth Flavell: I think, what you know, like what Flav was saying, that like even if you um you were saying that you're nervous about passing the fca and fsca don't you carry on doing your business now the window cleaning and then do those exams and if you do fail those exams doesn't matter how you still got the window cleaning and if you do pass them then maybe take a year out of window cleaning it's going to be there when you get back and try and do the stockbroker thing that would be my only

01:11:07.67
Flav: yeah Yeah, study for him.

01:11:22.81
Gareth Flavell: but my only kind of bit of advice, think about what it is that, is it what you want or is it what your dad wanted for you? and are you wedded to the the more, the money side of it being a stockbroker or is it, you know, your true calling and the whole kind of your own business thing and working for yourself.

01:11:44.48
Gareth Flavell: It's, it is a wonderful thing.

01:11:45.78
Flav: This sends shivers down my my spine. The recruitment process for FCAs. The process consists of four main stages with the assessment centre being the most challenging hurdle.

01:12:00.15
Flav: Online tests, you must complete logical, numerical and situational judgment tests. The logical and and analytical tests are considered the most demanding sections. You're obsessed on how well you understand the FCA's core purpose and regulatory goals.

01:12:13.66
Flav: You must give structured answers and link your reasoning to consumer protection and market integrity. I'm like, fuck this, man.

01:12:19.96
Gareth Flavell: yeah fuck Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:20.05
Flav: I'm going to do the i'm gonna do the old window cleaning.

01:12:23.80
Gareth Flavell: Yeah, exactly.

01:12:25.66
Flav: No, mate, do Ricky's advice about doing the window cleaning and on the side study for your FCA's and then you've got both.

01:12:25.94
Gareth Flavell: Yeah.

01:12:31.54
Flav: You're doing both things. You're satisfying both things.

01:12:33.85
Gareth Flavell: Yeah. There you go. that's ah That's our advice. I hope you find it helpful. We are now going to go into ah something only you know, and it's called Greek petting zoo.

01:12:51.68
Gareth Flavell: Back in the late ninety s early 2000s, I worked in Kavos for five years as a bar manager. Now, all the workers who worked in Kavos for the summer had but had a family mentality and all got along with ah so so the lads.

01:13:07.83
Gareth Flavell: And it was all shagging birds, drinking and playing pranks on each other. One of my mates, who will stay nameless, obviously, but we'll call him Bob,

01:13:18.74
Gareth Flavell: used to work on a party boat and would leave in the morning around 10am taking party going tourists to a lovely island with a blue lagoon.

01:13:26.48
Flav: Nice.

01:13:27.13
Gareth Flavell: They would spend the day there having barbecues, water sports and drinking games a great day out. Bob had left on the boat for his daily boat trip and off he sailed not due back until around 5pm. I was sitting around the pool with a couple of other workers when we had the idea of kidnapping a couple of chickens and putting them in his room for when he got back.

01:13:50.74
Gareth Flavell: This would be hilarious! So off we went in our van to find some chickens in the next village down. We found a little farm looking place and had a look about for some chickens. After chasing them around, ah ah around some chicken, for what seemed like hours, we managed to grab three of of the little buggers, shut the van doors and off we went back to Kavos.

01:14:15.19
Gareth Flavell: Now on the way home, we saw a goat on the side of the road and had the idea of grabbing the goat as well. It was tied to a post, so we literally just untied the goat and led it to the van.

01:14:26.81
Gareth Flavell: Easy peasy. We got back and got the spare key, which Bob hid just outside his apartment. We ushered in the goat and pretty much threw the chicken in the apartment and shut the door. We all went to the pub down the road, all chuffed ourselves like little schoolboys laughing our heads off.

01:14:43.54
Gareth Flavell: It got to about 4pm and we decided to grab a few ah Zeds before we started work at 7pm and await the arrival of Bob. Unbeknown to us, it had been really rough at sea as a storm was coming in, so the boat was delayed getting back by a few hours.

01:15:01.85
Gareth Flavell: We were at work and Bob walked in swearing and looking like a beetroot red with anger. He'd opened the door and the goat ran at him and headbutted him. The chickens were flapping about and there was shit and piss everywhere.

01:15:16.63
Gareth Flavell: The goat had eaten loads of his clothes and Bob was not a happy man. Even to today, Bob does not know who turned his apartment into a petting zoo. Love you guys. Love the pod.

01:15:29.18
Gareth Flavell: Flav, you're in my ear constantly on my post rounds. Lads and on. Overlap. Football between the lines. The lab. The fighting cock.

01:15:37.46
Flav: ah

01:15:38.17
Gareth Flavell: And that is something only I know.

01:15:40.77
Flav: God bless you, mate.

01:15:41.62
Gareth Flavell: ah God, ah I was going to tell a story about Cabos, but I can't tell that one here. Uh, I will tell you after Flav, um, and people in, in, uh, the lads patron discord, I will, I'll tell you in there as well.

01:15:50.64
Flav: Okay. All right.

01:16:01.47
Gareth Flavell: Um,

01:16:03.54
Gareth Flavell: that's been, that's been this week's for, for lads anonymous. Thank you for listening. Uh, if you want to become a patron and you want this podcast out today, Friday, ad free video three days before the normies.

01:16:16.60
Gareth Flavell: And obviously I just mentioned the discord that you can jump in and chat with everyone else. I'm there every single day twerking for you.

01:16:26.03
Gareth Flavell: Patron.com slash lads, anon pod. Next week, the topic is Amsterdam. Get your stories in ladsanonpod at gmail.com.

01:16:38.07
Gareth Flavell: And until then, i hope you have a bloody wonderful week.

01:16:44.03
Flav: Cheers.

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Why don't males recommend porn links to each other? That's a good point. I've never done that. Like we. Us. I mean, like, it doesn't even have to be my like, but any like we recommend restaurants, holidays, trainers. I like all these things, but we never say check this link out is so true. Have a look at this. I think it's about a couple of things.

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I think one thing is about the taboo with pornography. Even if you're open with your mates, we all know we will not want out every now and then. It's an amazing time when blokes get to an age where they're comfortable saying that with each other, because when you're a kid and you're first doing it, you're not comfortable, right?

00:00:47:19 – 00:01:06:07
Because it's a taboo and you should hide it and then it gets of gets worse later. It's well, funny with you with your mates and it just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joke and talk about it. Scam for a wank. Is that all right? And yeah, even now it's funny as grown men as we are. I think the. But it's still a part of the taboo.

00:01:06:09 – 00:01:27:10
But also you're letting people into your kinks and your little subtleties, like we all close friend of you know, we know that he's into such a niche form of porn. Yeah, yeah. I've never heard of this pornography type of pornography before. And you know exactly what I'm talking about. Me, I dare you. Well, I mean, it could be a couple of people, and it could be a couple of things.

00:01:27:15 – 00:01:53:03
Right. Well, you you describe the porn, and I'll do it as well. Okay. So a woman is holding a man up in her arms, and while he's got basically shoulder height to her, she is sucking him off like, it's like she's playing the bagpipes with another human. That's exactly what I was thinking about. Yeah.

00:01:53:05 – 00:02:16:21
I actually loves it. I know, I mean, it is that it's really. It's proper niche. I don't love it, I think. No, no, no, I think there's nothing but good things about that, man. That, it's a good point. Like. Well. Well, maybe I don't, I, I don't know, I mean, I don't want to be like, like you saying about the kink shaming, and it might not even be a kink for me.

00:02:16:23 – 00:02:41:07
I might see something and I'm like, five, check this out and you better. But you not want out to her, mate. She's grim. Look at her teeth. And I'm like, you've ruined that for me now. Like I was really into, I don't know, Claire. And now it's been ruined because all I'm thinking about is their teeth that you don't like.

00:02:41:09 – 00:02:59:20
And it's just weird that I just don't fit. Is anyone anybody's business? What? What, did you get email in or something? Is that why you bring this up? Yeah, yeah. So we got an email in and it was, it was to that. And then he put up the note coming out. Oh sorry. After knocking one out. What for me was peak pornography.

00:02:59:22 – 00:03:24:21
I thought that video is so good. The girl all the time. Premium cock and the perfect bump and grind. I must tell a mate about it, but I can't. I never have, nor has anyone ever shared a link with me. All my mates, a filthy pigs. And I'm old enough to have lived in the VHS and DVD days similar I just to back then the odd video or DVD would get passed around.

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Keep things fresh but yet the simple link has never been shared. I mean, do you remember no one said that there was a kid back where he lived and he said they would pay him like $4 to draw him a picture of, like, pornography because he couldn't have access. So he just draw pornography? Yeah. Georgia of vaginas. Vaginas.

00:03:44:01 – 00:04:05:23
It may pay him $4 so they can take the picture home. It's like that happened to me. Well, yeah, there's a kid called Colton at my school, and he would draw, like, like women with massive knockers, with these massive cock sisters and all all over him. And he was, like, brilliant at drawing cartoons. I didn't, I told me one, draw me one, draw me one.

00:04:06:00 – 00:04:37:08
He died. Unfortunately. Nine wasted. Like the talent. Yeah. Wasted talent. Did you ever, like, request, say, like. Come on. I love what you're doing, but can you, can you not draw the veiny cock spanking all over the woman? That's part of the fun. Like a couple of us, like, can you put the cock on the woman? That.

00:04:37:10 – 00:05:03:09
The night hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes high is quite midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music are. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:05:03:11 – 00:05:25:18
Hello and welcome to Louds. Anonymous is episode 56 I'm Ricky Haze Flav, two best mates, one main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions and our feature something only you know. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav? How was your M? I haven't caught up with you about New Year.

00:05:25:20 – 00:05:59:02
Like, obviously back in the day, New Year was a. Oh, it was an affair, wasn't it? It was, heavy, heavy day. Evening. Yeah. It would be. It would be that I think there was a period around crush on Crouch and. Yeah, where we are 2 or 3 New Years and it was just man, I mean, it was always heavy at the weekends anyway, but New Year's was something else and I was we would go a time who didn't really go out at that time partying.

00:05:59:02 – 00:06:12:07
Yeah. And I was like, I really, really wanted to go to a party. And I remember it been 4 a.m. and she called me, and when are you coming home? It's 4 a.m. it's New Year's Day now. And I was at.

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I don't want.

00:06:17:06 – 00:06:43:09
Yeah. Just don't be angry. I'm not coming home yet. But it was terrible. But I should have been home for him as long enough. It's. Yeah. Yeah, but I was at that time completely naked, enjoying the warmth from underfloor heating. No, nothing sexual. Was just naked because I'd had a shower for some reason in someone's flat and, and that underfloor heating in the on their wooden floors.

00:06:43:11 – 00:07:04:21
So I was lying flat on like off the off my tits. The good times that it's, like having a shower around someone. Did you know this person? Right. Okay. That's what I knew. The personal with it was Justin I was with. Yeah, but but the it was his girlfriend's house who had never met Bob. Had a show, I find it.

00:07:04:23 – 00:07:23:05
Yeah. Yeah, I remember we got back and we. This is. I mean, I'm not condoning this in any way, and it's there's something I'm going to talk about later, which is a byproduct of all of these sort of behaviors that I used to get up to. But I remember getting back and we, we poured all of our drugs that we had left on us on the table.

00:07:23:07 – 00:07:53:20
And I was like, we can't do that. That's there's too much there. But I always say, did you always do? Yeah. New Year's, was was different back then what it is now. I stayed at home, I didn't drink. Yeah, yeah, I said you didn't have anyone round. So you. So the plan was for Oli to have, 2 to 2 girlfriends over and a sister over, which I was dreading because.

00:07:53:22 – 00:08:10:08
Not that I love them all. They're great, but I was dreading it because I wasn't drinking and they were going to be drinking. And it's almost like you're obliged to sit at the table. But how long can you sit with, like, a gaggle of drunk women before you want to leave? So I and then my missus had, I don't know what I was.

00:08:10:08 – 00:08:34:15
She decided she wanted to go into town. So she messaged me saying we taxi us in and out of town and that I did that instead. So. So I was just I watched, what can but powerful. That was Black Panther. Right. So you you didn't decide to even have a casual like a single beer or so you've been off the beer since Christmas Day.

00:08:34:15 – 00:09:00:24
Really? Boxing day, boxing day. Yeah. Well, sure there is. No. Yeah, I mean, not why? Why the fuck not? So, the topic we are going to be discussing today is New Year's resolutions. I don't know how you feel about New Year's resolutions, because I've seen a lot of people chatting that New Year's resolutions is a load of ballocks.

00:09:01:01 – 00:09:17:05
It's it. You should be getting the stuff that you want to be changing about your life. You should be changing it anyway. You don't need to wait for a new year to say, I'm no longer going to fucking take drugs. I'm going to get up earlier in the morning. I'm going to do I'm not suck your dick anymore.

00:09:17:05 – 00:09:40:04
I'm not doing it. Yeah, yeah, I got enough all of that, and that. But then there are other people that are like, you know what, let's shovel in the last of the gamblin of the coke, of the vaping of the beer, drink, whatever it might be. And then from now on, this is the line in the sand.

00:09:40:04 – 00:10:01:15
This is where it fucking stops. I've had enough of this noise now, and we march forwards. Yeah. So a lot of you, which can be you in like I'm in the camp that if anything that's that enables people to make positive changes in their life, then why should you be hating on it? Well, like what? I get it.

00:10:01:15 – 00:10:21:17
If you're like David Goggins, like, every day's January 1st, every day you run until you die. I get that kind of mentality. But that's not normal, is it? He's fucking mentally disabled like he's a he's not. There's nothing normal about how what David Goggins is not appreciate his story is interesting story, but and he is inspiring to a lot of people.

00:10:21:17 – 00:10:39:23
And people say it's toxic and whatnot. But, you know, if he's encouraging people to get up and start moving, that's a positive thing, I think. But yeah, no, there's nothing wrong with you. I generally or stock towbar or, you know, all of these things. If it encourages people to make positive decisions, then and so be it.

00:10:39:23 – 00:10:59:05
All I would say, however, is I've done dry January before. I've gone through a month. And you're the mindset for me at that stage. It's a couple years ago was got to go get to January 31st, then I can start drinking again. That was what I was focused on. I'll just get to that deadline so I can start thinking and thank Christ.

00:10:59:07 – 00:11:22:03
Let's start drinking again. Yeah. And then which case is what's the point? You haven't done anything. You've not moved the dial in shift. I want to say that in case people, what I'm saying is, if you're binge drinking or drinking every day from January 31st all the way to December, I don't think that Dry January is going to make a huge amount of difference to your health and longevity.

00:11:22:05 – 00:11:41:10
I might be wrong, but if you use that as a starting block and many people day, then it's a super positive thing and you've in it. Often you feel like you need to be in it with other people. So yeah, why not? Yeah, hating on it for hating on it sake. I mean hate on stuff that needs to be hated on like, I don't know, pedophilia like that to up your attention.

00:11:41:10 – 00:12:03:13
Don't hate on someone. We give them up. Drink after Christmas sake. Yeah. I, I'm in that camp of, obviously whenever, at whatever time you decide to change something good for you, you fucking go for it. But I'm also 1st of January. Let's draw a line in the sand. I've always wanted to do this. I've had my mind on it.

00:12:03:15 – 00:12:32:24
I've been flip flopping. I've been saying right after that, lads, do out. Then I'll stop after, going to this football match and then I'll knock it on the air doing all of that stuff. And now it is January and I am moving along with my, my plans kind of. What is it you're giving up? Self self-improvement. So the first thing that I have actually given up is vaping.

00:12:33:01 – 00:12:56:15
So. Oh, really? Yeah. So in September you gave up cigarettes, you started gaming, you went heavily because a lot of people do. They lean into the vape heavily don't they. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. So I stopped smoking rotis in September. I went out with the, the gunners that listen to the pod and I, it was a filthy night.

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It was one of those nights where I like the hanger. I was sick at 8:00 in the evening. Hang on a second. Is this the evening we were talking about the other day? Well, you went out and you. You supposed to go football the next day. No, no, no, that's different, that's different. That's. When was this. That was different.

00:13:11:22 – 00:13:39:15
Now this is back in September. I went to see my bed. A couple of, tribute bands, at pulp, what they called, pulped and, I can't remember what it was. I think they were just called blur. And the beauty of this cover band that they came out did blur. It was brought in. Round of applause went off, pulp came on, first thing started, and I was like, some geezer.

00:13:39:17 – 00:14:01:19
That's the same. That's the same fucking geezer. He's got a wig on. And it was the same band. And they thought they both brilliantly. Really had a lovely night. What a bloody good night. But Yeah, I got fucking. It was just horrendous. And then, you know, after when you're so hung out you for days on end and you look at your cigarettes and you just I can't, I can't even do that.

00:14:01:19 – 00:14:19:06
And it's been three days. And then after that I was like, you know, I've not had a roadie for three days. Why don't I just fuck them off completely? Did you feel like I just them to have them? Not at that point, because I was still hung over and that was the best point to attack. Three days later, I was still fit.

00:14:19:08 – 00:14:41:10
Still fit in anxiety. Edgy, right? No. Not great. So it was a mixture of things. I thought if I, if I stop then and don't pick up the robberies and I eventually when I get out of that funk five days into it and I want to do something, just go grab the vape. So then I started vaping. I started vaping hard.

00:14:41:10 – 00:15:00:20
I was, you know, working from home, vaping in my office, lasting at night, lying in bed while the missus is asleep, roll in over having, you know, see secret couple of vapes by the bed. Yeah, by the bed. Yeah, yeah. Just got I haven't got out by myself. Why did you have to be secretive about a vape, for fuck's sake?

00:15:00:22 – 00:15:26:14
Yeah, I get it rolling over and having a line of gear, but not fucking beats. I don't want to be lying in bed. Got vaping like some fucking. So it's fine if you know about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, it's not fine because it was eating away at me. But and then as well, like the part of vaping where you would take a pull and you'd get some sweet flavored liquid on your lip was kind of my lungs.

00:15:26:16 – 00:15:53:06
Yeah. What was going on? Like, what am I doing? So then January the 1st, I was like, do you know what? That's it. I'm done. I'm done with vaping. Done with cigarettes. Makes me feel terrible. And I just it does nothing positive for me. Nothing. None of it is positive. No one such a. This is the realization I've been coming to in the in the last sort of, well, ten days.

00:15:53:06 – 00:16:21:05
So basically before Christmas, I went to, I went to the doctor's, because I've got an operation I had like a pre-op examination, and they, they did my blood pressure and it was super high. It was like there's three stages of hypertension. And I was in stage two, which is isn't good at 30, 43. And there are a number of reasons, like my nan died at 40, 59 from complications due to high blood pressure, you know, sleep.

00:16:21:07 – 00:16:40:24
That's fucking well young. Yeah. 59. Yeah. It was it's a shock is a big shock. But remember they didn't have the motor in there. They do now. They just never been picked up. Perishes basically. Yeah. And my mum also has it and she's on medication to bring it down. Luckily now they have pills that bring blood pressure right down and it can be managed really easy.

00:16:41:01 – 00:17:06:24
So it's not scary as it once was. But for me it was alarming because I'm 43 and, I'm like, well, how have I let this happen? I knew how I'd let it happen, but I was almost like in denial that there was anything wrong. And so they said, you need to get this down, and ideally do it through a change of lifestyle.

00:17:07:01 – 00:17:34:02
So my lifestyle pretty much for the last, well, since Covid is more or less drinking most days, there'll be some weeks where I drink every day. And when as soon as I drink, I start smoking. Yeah, and most of my day spent sitting in this chair, completely sedentary. And that combination of free things and smashing loads of coffee as well, all of those four things, all, like they push hard heart pressure up.

00:17:34:04 – 00:18:04:20
So there's a there's a sort of cocktail of all of those negative behaviors. And, and the fact that I have a history in, of it in my family. So I was that right? I don't have a choice here. This isn't a New Year's resolution. This is something that has to happen. It's a change in lifestyle. And I've got to say, right, there were times where I was like, I'd get up and I was fucking hung over again, and I'd just get up, get on with it, go to work, walk the dog, whatever it would be.

00:18:04:22 – 00:18:23:14
I just was like, felt terrible. And there was a moment where that about three weeks ago, well, it's a take. I had to sit down. I felt so sort of lethargic. I had to sit down and I was like, this is not right. And then I went to a doctor's and then they they did that, the blood pressure and stuff.

00:18:23:14 – 00:18:48:17
And we did. You have to sit down because you was so hungover. No, we're just not you. You just had no energy. Like I just fell on my mum. It felt like my muscles were, like, fatigued. They were like. They were like. Like I'd run. That's what it felt like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, if you don't mind me asking, what was your.

00:18:48:19 – 00:19:13:22
Because when you say you like drinking every day, there is the second drink up in one's mind. Could be mateys. Got eight cans of fucking Stella every night. I need pop in a can every single night. Or is it the. The kind of one? It's this aspirational relationship of wine with dinner and then another bottle while you're watching a film with me, is that it?

00:19:13:23 – 00:19:40:16
Just. It just where I was. I have a day after day. Yeah. It's that it was the habit of. So I've got a really positive connection with wine, my wife, our relationship, how we met each other, the really kind of wonderful parts of the early start of our relationship involved a lot of red wine going to France and sitting by the sea and looking out and drinking with Brian and sitting on a sofa, light in the fire, having a glass of red wine.

00:19:40:17 – 00:20:04:17
All that is lovely and romantic. Yeah. Feels great. Don't be wrong, I miss it, but, I adjust and then towards the end of the night, you'll have a glass of whiskey, too. I mean, not every night, especially at weekends. The boxes on this open of whiskey, football's on. If it's like a 730 kick off, a couple of beers, whiskey sitting down.

00:20:04:20 – 00:20:26:11
Dad on a Friday night. So it all adds up. Yeah. And compounded by the fact that I was doing nothing by moving. I wasn't moving me. I was I was just sitting and, and so, Yeah, the, the, the nurse said, you need this is too high y too high. You need to do five readings with your your blood test.

00:20:26:13 – 00:20:43:16
Let's see if this is a normal reading for you or it's just an anomaly. Anyway, I did another one and it was still high, so I was like, I've got a I've got a change. And then on on Boxing Day I said that I would never I'm going to have some time off of alcohol. At that time I thought do joy January see if has.

00:20:43:17 – 00:21:11:20
Yeah but but now I'm thinking I'm never going to drink again. Probably. I'm probably never going to touch ever, ever, ever. Yeah, it's not worth it, mate. And the more the more, the more I think about alcohol, my relationship with it, the more mental it seems. Because I think about it and I'm like, well, what what what you said what did you say about vaping and about tobacco?

00:21:11:22 – 00:21:40:04
It does. Yeah. There's no point, no positive aspect whatsoever. There is absolutely zero positives from, from tobacco, vaping. And you could say alcohol. Now, there are some when you say that and it's not true, you got to be honest. There are some positive things about alcohol, social lubricant. You can enjoy it with your friends, but it's got to a stage where that isn't enough for them.

00:21:40:06 – 00:22:02:07
The negative impacts of what alcohol does to me specifically. So, and the reason why you all have these cravings and why you have a cravings for cigarette is because you're smoking, because you're drinking, and it's that cycle of you have withdrawal. So you drink to to sedate the anxiety of not having a drink of all that need to want one.

00:22:02:12 – 00:22:24:06
Same with cigarettes. And the more you use, the more you smoke, the more that those withdrawals, the more intense those withdrawals are. And the only way to stop that is to stop smoking. Stop drinking. Yeah. And at this weird realization is that I every time I have a sip of alcohol, immediately, I want a cigarette immediately. Yeah, yeah.

00:22:24:12 – 00:22:47:11
The first step. Yeah, I'd want a cigarette. You know what? I haven't craved a cigarette in ten days. I haven't even have. You know, I know I swear on my on all these life. And you know how much I love I. Yeah, yeah. Where on her life strike her dead now if I'm lying. Oh, shit. I have not even thought about a cigarette.

00:22:47:13 – 00:23:10:21
It's not even come into my mind. And then I'm wondering, well, what cigarettes are the most addictive? You know, nicotine. Most one of those addictive long heroin substances on the planet. So how is it, then, that I've had no cravings for for for cigarettes. I have cravings for alcohol. Don't be wrong. 100%. Yeah, yeah, but for cigarettes. Someone gave me a cigarette.

00:23:10:21 – 00:23:37:21
Now go. Go. Not that I wouldn't smoke it. I wouldn't want to. There'd be nothing. You, me. Go. I want that cigarette until I've had a drink. So? So how real is, how real is. Are these sort of perceived addictive nature? Perceived addictive? What? My work. Searching for traits in human beings. But surely if I'm addicted to cigarettes, as I should be, because it smokes a lot, why is it that I have no cravings at all?

00:23:37:23 – 00:24:10:01
And if I don't have any cravings, and maybe they're not as addictive as people think, but you you're you get into a habit or a thought process of thinking, I need them. Which is stronger than the actual product. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, completely. I think it is. I literally just about in that. So I think it comes down to, a mindset of where by that I would easily vape or smoke and be drinking and summertime and sociable and it's fun and all these other things.

00:24:10:03 – 00:24:36:11
And I'm at the point now where I've got to this day for after I went out full steam in The hangover bind off Rawlings. And it's just, you know, that one too many times and we've all had them and then we all go back to it. But, at this very moment in time, while I'm sitting here chatting to you, Flav, is that I don't want to wake up feeling not shit anymore.

00:24:36:13 – 00:25:13:19
I really don't I want to feel as a close to 100% as possible. I want to be running efficient, you know? I mean, I can't allow you can't, you can't. And alcohol and smoking cigarettes and vaping and whatever else, you can't I can't go to bed at night and wake up in the morning and then be like, ready for the day of what I need to do for my family and for myself if I'm hung over or if I need to go to smoke or go to the shop and, you know, or just any of that stuff, it all rolls and so on, really.

00:25:13:21 – 00:25:37:11
And at this moment I, you know, I don't I don't want to fight that. There's been a couple of times I say in my routine every evening I would start doing my Duolingo and learning Spanish, Spanish, Spanish. I'm on about, 700 and something consecutive days learning Spanish. So you must be able to speak Spanish, right?

00:25:37:13 – 00:26:01:21
Speaking Spanish, I can do different sentences and stuff like that, but the reading and listening, I reckon I couldn't read Spanish if you gave me a, a book or something like that I could pick out from a book or menu or whatever, I would know what is what is saying, along those lines, you could, you could, you could sort of understand a paragraph in a book.

00:26:01:23 – 00:26:31:00
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Really. That's good. Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. For sure. And listening. Sorry, I don't speak Spanish, but could you answer in Spanish? How where is the bank? Done there. Hasta el banco. What's that mean? Where is the bank? Now tell me where the bank is. El banco. Tala Recto.

00:26:31:02 – 00:26:52:14
That means straight down. Yeah, I like it. Get a drink. I don't know if he's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. There you go. That's it. But this is. I think if you just fucking fucked on alcohol every day. Hung over and drawn out. Strung out. Would you want to do Duolingo? Probably not. No. But when I lay down and I'm dead, my Duolingo just slouch on the sofa.

00:26:52:14 – 00:27:12:21
That's when I'd get the vape out, and that's where I'd just be like, it's. It's the 11:00 to 12 before I got a bed. The vaping. And that's been where I've thought about it, but I've just been watching the Duolingo go to bed. Forget about during the day. I'm safe. I'm fine. I'm sound. Yeah. That that that is it.

00:27:12:21 – 00:27:37:22
The the the other thing as well. Like what I've just mentioned there and I spoke about this on the pod many a time. You know what I'm like grip Flav. You know what I'm like. But I am trying. I'm trying. And it's this new, renewed optimism of health is wealth and not feeling like shit, not being hung over.

00:27:37:23 – 00:27:59:14
Not, you know, all of that stuff is to try to get a good night's sleep. And that doesn't mean when I go to sleep I'm tossing and turning and this and that. When I go to sleep, I'm. I'm sound. I don't need any, kind of tablets to make me go to sleep or. Oh, that's fine. It's drift off straight away.

00:27:59:16 – 00:28:24:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much pretty much. And I go to bed at half 12 and then I'll wake up at half six, but when I wake up, like I've, I've got to a point now where I feel like I cannot open my eyes in the morning like they're so sunken in and I'm so tired. You need more than six hours.

00:28:24:17 – 00:28:41:15
You're not fully resting. I'm. I'm looking at my Fitbit and it's like five hours. And something about that is ridiculous. I don't even have children to get up for in the middle of the night and all that long, like babies I'm talking about. So what, are you going to push yourself to bed earlier than Ricky? Is that your New Year's resolution?

00:28:41:17 – 00:29:03:19
My New Year's resolution is to is to start, maybe like 11:00. And I want to get down to 10:00. I want to I want to stop. This is what. So this is two pronged. Really? Yeah. So this is a bit of health and this is a bit of self-development. 930 in bed reading a book. Good. 10:00 1015 lights out, lights out.

00:29:03:21 – 00:29:26:07
You'll feel so much better, Rick. Do that. Just do it for a week. Give yourself a week like this. Is somebody like giving up alcohol is like, just give yourself. Like I decided because I knew that I had to on boxing, Boxing Day to give up alcohol, and knowing full well that there was still a week of festivities and the, New Year's Day.

00:29:26:07 – 00:29:49:11
Right. And he's I've rather I can't tell you. I said, I'll keep on. Let me start now, because I've got you because of the blood pressure, I can't tell you. I feel like a different man. Honestly, Rick, I feel like I feel like me times five. And that's just the start of it. I can't. How? Of sleeping. Well,

00:29:49:13 – 00:30:17:11
Look, let me look, I just I wrote down the things that alcohol did to me and made me feel right. Oh. Did you? Yeah. So. So there was, like, ache and body. Yeah. Waking up at 4 a.m. in the morning, desperately thirsty. Because obviously alcohol authority, having that feeling that I'm damaging myself, that anxiety that I'm actually damaging my body.

00:30:17:13 – 00:30:42:18
Yeah. You know, not being able to work properly or function anywhere near my, capabilities, you know, my relationships, suffering with my kids, not the the relationship. Good. And with the wife is not a problem. But when you're running at 50%, how much how present can you possibly probably be? Yeah. I'm. I'm just like, you get, when you're hung over, you get bit, agony and.

00:30:42:18 – 00:31:06:01
Yeah, no frustrations and stuff. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then and then, and then, I've never been heavier in my life. I've never been as this I to say fat but overweight. Yeah. Like, I look at my face is puffy and I look old and I'm like, yeah, what is God? What am I doing? I'm putting the shit in my body that makes me look and feel like all of these things.

00:31:06:03 – 00:31:28:14
Plus I worked out I was I'm free cigarettes and alcohol. I'll save about eight grand a year. Chewing cigarettes are like nearly £20 a packet. I was buying one of them every other day. I'm spending about £79 on one a day, but more or less, more or less. If someone said to me, they said, and I realized, right, right.

00:31:28:14 – 00:31:47:18
If I'm carrying on like this from my heart, my heart pressure, right? And I'm not doing anything about it, I could be dead in eight years. I could be dead. I can be dead in less than that, probably. Rick. Right. That's the reality. High blood pressure. Continued high blood pressure is directly related to strokes and heart attack. Right.

00:31:47:20 – 00:32:08:04
If you don't, if it's undiagnosed, you don't sort it out. So if I had eight years left to live, or I could fuck all that shit off, start exercising, stop drinking, stop smoking, and live for however long I'm going to live for. But by the eight years I have 56 grand. So you've been dead in eight years? I have 56 grand in eight years and feel great.

00:32:08:04 – 00:32:25:04
What the fuck? There's no choice. Well, yeah. What do you weigh? What do you put it down like that? It's fucking wild in it. Yeah, but it just. And, And then I started thinking, well, why am I drinking? What is it that I'm. What is the the trigger that makes me start drinking each day?

00:32:25:06 – 00:32:54:23
Have you, Yeah. Have you found it? Yeah. Do you know what? Yeah, it's it's a it's a it's my body in withdrawal saying you need this. You want this. Yeah. And I'm like yeah. Do. And for the first hour it's great. Feels good. Relaxed I'm just being creative. Feels good. Second hour. Stop being creative. Your brain's not really working properly.

00:32:55:00 – 00:33:17:15
And the third. And to till you go to bed to whatever it might be. It's just chasing the initial feeling of being. Feeling good. Right? So if you can agree that the first hour of drinking alcohol or two hours is good, not it, not holistically, but in that moment is good and that's it. And that's what I've come to understand.

00:33:17:15 – 00:33:43:15
That's it. It's feeling good for two hours because I've drunk the day before worth all of those things I've just listed. And the fact that abiding by the time of 50, no, of course, isn't really. That's the most logical thing in the world. So if you just focus on the logic that when that when that, when that comes to you, when that urge comes to you and it will today and it has done every day between 3 and 5.

00:33:43:17 – 00:34:04:21
So that's that's my witching hour three and five. And then I usually get I'll get home about half, 4 or 5, start cooking dinner, open a bottle of wine. That's where that's where this comes from. So I you the drinking starts between 3 and 5:00 in the afternoon to urge the urge to drink starts then, drive where I when my brain starts going right at that time in it.

00:34:04:23 – 00:34:25:08
That's what it does. My subconscious goes about that time. The withdrawals from yesterday, started to fully kick in. I haven't drunk for whatever it is, 24 hours. Oh, no. Yeah. No, no, listen, more than that now. Yeah, less than that. Listen, that. Because it's night before and your brain goes right. Was time to start thinking about that now because you need that.

00:34:25:08 – 00:34:55:06
Remember you need that. And the reality is, is the only reason I'm feeling like that is because I drink. So it's like a circle. It's like a trap. It's like a cyclical behavior. Negative behavioral. Yeah. And, and like, legitimately the way my mind is now, I'm never going to do it again. I genuinely think, like, I think one day maybe if we don't know, I don't know when I might do it, but I can't I can't do it anymore.

00:34:55:06 – 00:35:21:01
Right. And I feel you. Are you going to go down the, route or route, as our American friends would like to say, of nonalcoholic beverages? That's triggering for me. Yeah, I know I get that. Other people do. Yeah, for them. But for me, it's not a lot of like nonalcoholic beer. A lot of people that drink beer say it doesn't taste like it.

00:35:21:01 – 00:35:40:20
It tastes like shit that don't touch it. Whatever. But I'm not a beer connoisseur, so it's not like if I. If I drank it, I would be like that. Taste that beer. I want a cigarette. Someone can get three for 100 or something. You ever see cocaine, Shane? On on. I love him. Yeah, I love it.

00:35:40:22 – 00:36:03:03
I just can't stop watching him. Yeah, he just tells mental stories about when he used to go. Like, people think you got a cocaine problem. That guy had a problem. He's got no nose left. Like the doctor said, they can't really rebuild his nose because. Because he's just done too much damage to it. Poor bastard. Man. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he could, but I just think we need these people of, like, gunshot wounds that need this more than you.

00:36:03:05 – 00:36:22:14
Yeah, and like, you think as well. They look at. Oh, he's just going to do coke again. My like we going to rebuild your nose. Yeah. I'm just going to I think they would destroy it again. The likelihood of him relapsing like you like I.

00:36:22:16 – 00:36:41:02
I'm almost certain at this stage and it's only nine days. People who know better than me will, you know, probably scoff at this or laugh at this, but I don't feel like I'll ever do it again. But it's so early on. Whereas him, you know, he's he has relapsed in the last year. So there probably is something in that.

00:36:41:08 – 00:37:03:17
But why was we talking about? I don't know if I know I had a point to to talk about cocaine. Shane, I can't remember. I'm sorry, but this is what booze does, is it starts fucking me. But it's also like for people thinking about giving up, right? You get past, I would say, from one, from day one to day five, it was tough.

00:37:03:19 – 00:37:22:20
Like day five, I had a little like cry. It was that. It was I really. Yeah. I just got, I don't know, watch quite. I got quite emotional about it. I was like, what have I done? And I don't, I don't know if I'm painting myself as a raving alcoholic. Isn't that it wasn't that it was. I wasn't like fall and blacking out drunk or anything like that.

00:37:22:20 – 00:37:41:06
But it was it was just consistent and it was consistent, but it was because it's like red wine and the bottle was relatively expensive. And it isn't white lightning. And I'm not sitting in a park. It doesn't mean it's not still an issue, you know? I mean, how to make that. Is that viewed alcohol in, in that way?

00:37:41:09 – 00:38:03:10
What's the more you pay for it, the better it is. Kind of the more acceptable is I'm not an alcoholic because I would never go and find a cheap non brand vodka and down it because I need alcohol that bad. Yeah, that that was where they were coming from. But they, they, they drank beer every single day and drink beer every single day.

00:38:03:12 – 00:38:31:16
They would probably be hungover maybe three out of seven days. And it, it gets to a point where in their environment of like them growing up, that's the, I've got to be careful in choosing my words because this person could listen to this episode and could be listening to this, and I don't want to, obviously. And we've spoken, we spoke, we've spoken about this before anyway.

00:38:31:18 – 00:38:55:09
But, you know, a product of their environment, their parents, when they were growing up, 5:00, you know, pens down, get the GMT, start cooking dinner. So it was a like a lived experience of your parents drinking in the evening and settling down to watch fucking EastEnders, the bottle of red, whatever it might be. So then you develop those habits and that's the way you live your life.

00:38:55:11 – 00:39:13:22
Now, before we go into, anything now, since is there any more things that you're for, New Year's resolution that you're always going to be? I mean, this is pretty a pretty big one, too. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what more than alcohol, caffeine, cigarettes is.

00:39:13:24 – 00:39:38:13
That as much as you can do you any? I don't know. Give it up. Something else. I'm good enough. Say my my number one thing for me. Totally. Number one is my morning routine. Improving my morning routine. Sorry. My bed. So it's my bedtime, but you get to do it at night. In the morning. Rick, could you not.

00:39:38:13 – 00:39:59:16
What the. What the. I'm not saying you do the same thing, but you can do what you you so that the time you that you feel you're losing at night time. But you you're you time you if you get up before everybody else you can have that. That's that's what I want to do. But I need to go to bed earlier before, before I do that.

00:39:59:19 – 00:40:24:09
And that's the bit that I want to get to. I want to get to a point in my life where I am waking up at night, six in the morning, and I'm up. I'm bright, I'm feeling good, and I have no problem of walking over to my laptop and start smashing for eight hours, or I have no problem going downstairs and doing a kettlebell exercise.

00:40:24:14 – 00:40:46:18
I have no, you know, for whatever it might be, just a bit of that personal time for myself to wake up and be on my own, of my own thoughts and just to kind of have that bit of me time rather than doing it in the evening and feeling worse, where also, the one that I need to this is I don't know if it's a funny one, but it is.

00:40:46:19 – 00:41:14:04
It is quite funny for me, negativity, negativity in my life. I'm not a big fan of it, but admittedly, cards on the table. I've been a bit of a hate watch of love. What you what what what what I mean by that is there are people out there on social media doing their thing, and I watch their content because I, I wouldn't say I hate them, but I want them to fail and I don't like them, and it just is.

00:41:14:04 – 00:41:34:08
This influences, influencers and there's people out that I know that I, that I'm just like, what do you mean why don't like, why do I, I know it's like when I said, I said on Chris on Boxing Day, I said, boys on me, get off the alcohol. And I said, and they said, what? What? For a few days?

00:41:34:08 – 00:41:53:14
And I was like, no weeks. And you put a little smiley emoji with a like Pinocchio nose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did I at the time I was like really vulnerable. And I was like, why? Why have you done that? Yeah, I did you do that? Because at that time I would have thought, there is no way that you're doing that.

00:41:53:16 – 00:42:11:23
And at that time, for me, but we had bought it, you know, I didn't know. Is this bad? I didn't know it was so. But like, it was, it was as severe as how drunk you'd been, the blood pressure and that you were actually like, do you know what this is? The line in the sand that I don't want to do this anymore.

00:42:12:00 – 00:42:35:07
I thought it was, that's the thing you don't know. Should I should you be out that way? At first, yeah, I probably will continue to do that, because that's just who I am. Yeah. And, And you, you can't read everything through WhatsApp and obviously thinking about that, that is a terrible thing. But at the same time, I probably still would have done the same thing.

00:42:35:09 – 00:42:55:14
And I'm sorry, my, I didn't mean I didn't mean to make you feel bad, but, you know, it's like when it's one of those times, you know, like, if I say, I'm going out with the lads and I'm not getting up to no good. Yeah. Or whatever. I'll see you in the garage and then, you know, I'll see you at someone's kitchen table 3:00 in the morning.

00:42:55:14 – 00:43:12:01
Might not be. That is as far as men like. And it says here, missus. I just got out for a couple now. Full. Well, this is going to, if you're honest, with your Mrs. or your partner or whoever it might be, and just say I've gone out with the lads, you know. Yeah, yeah. I'm probably going to go to one of them ones.

00:43:12:03 – 00:43:36:16
Yeah, I understand when you say I'm just buck up or you take away back something like that, and then you don't, and then you're in the garage at 3 a.m. that's. You can understand what I get, right? Yeah. Yeah. And and I do understand. Yeah. So I am going to be giving up my, my hate watching. So there's a, there's a few people that I thought I hate watching, I'll tell you after, but, you know, you know what?

00:43:36:16 – 00:43:59:05
People just it's like, they just fly up, you know, is of just, like, they just annoy you, but you just can't stop watching their stuff. And why? I'm like, really? I've never known this about you. Yeah. It's curious about there's probably about three, 3 or 4 people, but I'm just I'm just going to not not, follow them or, whatever it might be.

00:43:59:07 – 00:44:31:06
And then obviously the, self-development, we have to be a better father to try to be a bit more understanding, a bit more listen in and a bit more, not get frustrated as quickly just to kind of try and take myself out of a situation where I would say something that would be hurtful, or do something that'd be hurtful over the ocean, a more positive person then spread that positivity.

00:44:31:08 – 00:44:51:21
Yeah, yeah, pretty much pretty much. That is, that's what I'm that's what I'm going to be doing. Now, there is a person I've mentioned this person on the podcast many a time before Mel Robbins, and she is kind of like a self-help podcast. Yeah. And she does she does loads of stuff like this. And you can look crap.

00:44:51:21 – 00:45:18:00
She's she's massive, but she posted something on her Instagram and I will put it in our description of the podcast, which you can have a look at now if you want to go back and look at things in your life for New Year's resolution or anything, she basically just plots out these things. What are the people, experiences and commitments that created positive feelings in 2024?

00:45:18:02 – 00:45:36:14
So you write a list of all those positive things, all the good stuff that happens and the commitments that you made, all the good stuff, what other people experience and commitments that triggered negative feelings and energies from your memories in 2024.

00:45:36:16 – 00:45:44:18
So you've got a list of that stuff. What did you learn about yourself over the past year?

00:45:44:20 – 00:46:09:10
What are you going to start, stop and continue to do for 2025? And then after you've got all that information you can then, right? You don't have to go, right. So if it's for example, we spoke about alcohol and you're not going to go from or it might be hard from day one, I'm no longer drinking alcohol, I'm going cold turkey.

00:46:09:10 – 00:46:29:16
But you might say at the end of the year I want to get to only having a two cans a night when I got a bed. Then you make up those small bits throughout the year. In three months time, instead of having ten cans before I got a bed, I'll have eight cans, and then I'll have six cans, and then and so on, so forth.

00:46:29:22 – 00:46:53:23
It's the small step. So you put out a deadline of what you want to do and what you want achieve, and then you work backwards on making those small kind of steps to meet that main big target that you have. So I'm going to put that in our podcast description. Mel Robbins Mel Robbins podcast is amazing. Go and listen to it, but not before you've listened to ourselves first.

00:46:54:00 – 00:47:22:11
And yeah, I just want to. Yeah, I'll just end that on there. And as we're saying about New Year, New Me, there will be I'm not going to say like it's a big change within the podcast. I just think we this has been going nearly nearly a year. January the 23rd was the first episode we ever published of large anonymous is still going to be flat, and I still going to be dilemmas.

00:47:22:13 – 00:47:48:21
Is there going to be something only you know? But the themes and the topics that we discuss each week, I think we, we I know how you guys love sending in topics for us to discuss, and that will continue to happen because we we want to discuss and chat about the stuff that you send in, but also where we're going to do a couple more podcasts, a bit like flat.

00:47:48:21 – 00:48:17:08
Remember we did the part about Bonnie Blue? Yeah, only fans. And it was like Roy, where the news was kicking off about, yeah. So I would like to the way we would like to go into a bit more of, to tap into things that as, like Geist at the time. Yeah, but you know, when and relevant, like when the, joined when the, sub submarine submersible, when time was going down.

00:48:17:08 – 00:48:38:14
The Titan. Yeah. Like, we talked about it later, but when that would have been great to talk about it. As in when it happened. Like when, like the Bonnie Blue one was a good, a good time, to do something. But yeah, it's, it's like instead of just going one, you know, around the topic, if there's something going on in the news that we can tap into it.

00:48:38:16 – 00:49:03:24
Yeah. For sure. So so going forward we're going to be trying out these pots and say for instance, I'll just say it now, but the topic for next week is going to be bullying. And it's all going to be about, you know, where you bullied us as a youngster. What do you think about bullying? And a lot of people, jokingly or not, should say bring back bullying.

00:49:03:24 – 00:49:24:09
And I think there's a bit of tongue in cheek with, yeah, careful about making that choice again because, you can people come back always. I know it's really bad. Bullying is bad. It's terrible. Yeah, it is. And, through some of our lived experiences as well, because Flav and I was chatting, have I ever been bullied? And I said, no.

00:49:24:09 – 00:49:44:24
But then I came up with some examples and there was a bit of a gray line. So if you want to get involved bullying chat, send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com. If next week going through the week that there is a topic that has kicked off and that Flav and I would like to talk about that, we'll talk about that instead.

00:49:44:24 – 00:50:17:13
But all the stuff that you send in for bullying will be used in a future episode. And one last thing, if you do see any weird news stories, anything in the press or celebrity, whatever it might be that you would like us to chat about at us on social media. So if it's the anywhere at large, a non part, us will see it and we'll put it down for, a discussion piece when we're doing these types of pods.

00:50:17:15 – 00:50:45:13
And you can email us at landing on pod at gmail.com or send us a DM. So yeah, just if you see these new stories and you think it's interesting to send into us, now, we are going to be going to dilemmas and something. And you know, the dilemma is called none of my business, but I'm copied in and something only you know is tackling the bush.

00:50:45:15 – 00:51:12:13
So we're going to go to dilemmas right now. Oh, just, just Tira, you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad cause pain will destroy you. Are you aching in your soul, alone in your flat? Please talk to Vicky offline. Yeah. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve to play like you're safe here to get nice and warm between Vicky.

00:51:12:13 – 00:51:18:07
Your plans.

00:51:18:09 – 00:51:41:15
A friend of mine has been coming to me about her relationship problems. Which is fine, because everyone needs to vent sometimes. She asked for advice, which is cool, and I try to keep it unbiased and helpful. But she's been telling me about this cute guy at work. And I'm not going to lie, I'm very concerned about her behavior towards this guy.

00:51:41:17 – 00:52:05:08
I do feel a little uncomfortable when she tries to talk to me about him, but I just keep an open mind. I know I probably should tell her boyfriend, but I just don't want that kind of arc in my life. Also, I don't think I'm close enough to deliver this kind of news, but on the other hand, I do feel like this is really shitty thing to do to someone.

00:52:05:10 – 00:52:37:06
What should I do? One none of my business to have a serious one with my mate. Three tell the boyfriend for anonymously. Tell the boyfriend. So she her mate basically has been confiding in her about her relationship, but she's like letting on that this, this, this, this dude at work that she likes. She she's going to cheat on on him.

00:52:37:06 – 00:52:42:13
Yeah, yeah.

00:52:42:15 – 00:52:59:10
It's a tough one. I mean, I like to say that I would, I would get involved, but the reality is I just, I wouldn't and I just get on with my life. Yeah, that's the reality I think. But if the best thing to do would be to talk to your mate, just go look what you're doing. And this is our water.

00:52:59:10 – 00:53:31:04
Like, if you don't want to be your boyfriend, then do the right thing and split up with him and then you can pursue this other thing. But just kind of shagging love a bloke probably ain't the one. Yeah, but, blokes kind of feel like, you crush him, you could fuck him up. Yeah. And it's it's really tough because you, like, I always feel like if I know something, I would feel better if I tried to do something about it.

00:53:31:06 – 00:53:54:01
Now, I'm not saying go and tell the boyfriend or anonymously tell the boyfriend, because at the end of the day, I don't think that is any of your business. But at the same time, you want, a clear conscience. And for me, that would be saying to said friend, look what you're doing or what you plan to do or what you're alluding to isn't fucking cool.

00:53:54:03 – 00:54:15:15
If someone did that to you, how would you feel? If you don't want to be with this guy anymore and tell them if there's a problem? Yeah, yeah. Engineer a future where you're not, in him. You don't have to tell him immediately, but work on it and, you know, just. But the last thing you want, these guys just shag some other bloke just because I don't know what he's giving you the validation.

00:54:15:15 – 00:54:40:15
You're not getting a home or. I don't know what the problem is. I'm whatever it might be. But cheating is not the one man. Nuh I yeah, I mean, like, when you're the thing is as well. Like, if this person like this person is your mate, right? And if they're cheating on their fellow who they're, they apparently love or have been in a relationship with rather long, whatever it might be.

00:54:40:17 – 00:55:09:02
I always feel like that's like their low a common sense question. And what does it mean to your friendship as well, how low they are to you? I always just find it a bit like, I don't know, cheat is that they're just not. They're not, they're not good people, not typically, you know, I mean, there's reasons for, that some people might cheat and it might be that they're not fulfilled at home or the they're scared of breaking up or things just happen.

00:55:09:04 – 00:55:31:18
But yeah, I mean, there's nothing positive. Same way we talk about smoking. There's nothing positive going to come away from cheating apart from a momentary fix. Yeah, exactly. So I go, yeah, go chat. Go and chat to your mate, lay your cards on the table and then at least you have done your bit. She's not gonna listen to you like, the minute that she gets an opportunity to get a ticket.

00:55:31:19 – 00:55:56:01
No one's looking. She's going to do it. Yeah, regardless of what you say. But your conscience is clean, then I don't think you tell the tell to partner. It's not your business, really. But you can talk to, or the the the the last one anonymously. Tell the boyfriend. That's that's like dogs, man. You can't you can't really think that, but it's your you're the fact that you're you're in the right, you know, your mind space is currently correct.

00:55:56:07 – 00:56:04:21
Pretty great. All right. Yeah. We are going to go into something only you know.

00:56:04:23 – 00:56:12:10
Why? Something, you know, you.

00:56:12:12 – 00:56:38:07
Tackling the bush? I've been a gardener for eight years. I'm 27 now. I have a client who's been with me for three years, ever since I went out on my own. Now, this fella might possibly be the worst client you can imagine. I've been called a slave, a worthless tradesman, and many other awful names. You might think, why am I still doing this garden?

00:56:38:09 – 00:57:08:23
The answer is very simple and easy. Number one, for some reason is an excellent Christmas tipper. Number two, I'm sleeping with his wife. His wife and I started this affair around nine months ago when he went away on a business trip, and she invited me in for a cup of tea. When it was raining, she started saying that she was unhappy, etc. I suggested that she needed to go out and have some fun with her friends.

00:57:09:00 – 00:57:30:23
Being unsure how to deal with the invite others receive, and at the time she did. And then a few days later, she asked if I would go round and put up some shelves for her and I agreed. One thing led to another and nine months later we are still shagging now. I take great pleasure knowing her husband in brackets.

00:57:31:00 – 00:57:50:05
Don't feel bad for him because he's a cunt. Is paying me to do some in out with his wife every week. Cut the grass, we need the beds, then tackle his wife's bush. And that is something only I know.

00:57:50:07 – 00:58:08:07
By, Well. Oh, we just said cheating, but it's no good. No, no, it's like something out of an 80s porn movie, isn't it? Yeah. And and it's. What I was thinking is like, she went out of her mates and a couple of days later is. Can you come round and sort myself that it's like that.

00:58:08:07 – 00:58:39:10
They probably going away the girl and just said, oh yeah, see if you can get round to do something, fix, fix the washing machine, fix a tumble dryer, and give her a large portion. But that's crazy, right? Next week we are going to be talking about bullying. So if you have any stories that you encountered when you were younger, send them in or anything else that you want to share on bullying, send it into lads anon pod at gmail.com.

00:58:39:12 – 00:58:58:20
And also if you see any interesting bits of news while you're surfing the web, don't forget to add us at Lad's Anon pod and we will discuss it on the next pod or next couple of pods. Until then, we will see you on Monday.

00:58:58:22 – 00:59:22:06
The night hazy light band of brothers playing tunes high as quite midnight waves. Surfing free till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music are. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside, we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Yeah. An oddball that was jailed after he tried to get his son, aged just 13, to have sex with a prostitute and snort a line of cocaine. I'm a good father, he told the court. A man jailed for years claims he is still a good dad, despite offering his son cocaine and trying to get him to have sex with a 26 year old prostitute.

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Don't be a pussy, the man told his son after they organized a party for two sex workers to visit a hotel in Bromley, Greater London. The young lad, who cannot be named, bravely told his dad I'm fucking 13. This is ridiculous. When he was offered a line of cocaine at the sentencing hearing, the man from Croydon Crown Court, he is.

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The man, told Croydon Crown Court He is a great father, despite appearing to have some weird and very skewed views on what is good parenting. I'm a good father, he insisted after he pleaded guilty to arranging for a child to engage in sexual activity, as well as supplying him of cocaine. He told the court I might not look like it in your eyes.

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It was only because he was feeling down, because he'd broken up with his girlfriend and he said, he's done all that stuff before, he added. So the bra sucked, his penis job done. Whatever.

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That's the key to repentance. The boy's mum had reluctantly agreed for him to spend the night with his dad, but when the boy arrived, I, his dad offered him a line of cocaine and said, I've bought a brass.

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Fuck. You know, man. 30. Yeah. It's not funny, really. The, shout out to the bloke who sent this to me just to say his name, because he did it. Supply me a story. Okay. That's good. But you knew that, my daughter is 13. I, I don't know if she actually knows what the word cocaine is or what it looks like or anything.

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She probably aware that it's a drug. Yeah, but she wouldn't be aware of anything else. And she's quite pretty, so I don't know what you know about bros. She wouldn't respond well to a prostitute. You think? No, I don't think she would. I know, I don't know if you would or should, really. I mean, it's I just remember being if I think about my 13 year old self, like I was still in that transition period of fucking.

00:02:33:00 – 00:02:58:00
Yeah, Transformers going into football like that. I didn't really think about women in that way. I had just started masturbating. Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12 hours. Well, you know the age that you started masturbating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12. Can you remember the moment? Yeah, I can, What I said something like, oh, I can do this now. I'm gonna do this forever.

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I. I don't think it actually, this isn't the first time that I, twisted one off, but when I was 12 was the first time I jacked 12. That's not bad. Yeah, yeah. And I remember it was you. A hairy boy? No, I remember I at the time, the in the pube region, it would have been like, a 60s came over, so.

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Yeah. So the fact is this, tiny boy penis with, pubes, just, you know, I. Well. Oh, you put your thumb up. That would be the end of you. Don't just stop talking. Ricky, finish your sentence, and I'm going to play the jingle. Not just immediately in the middle of the sentence. Stop talking. Why would that ever be the right thing to do?

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Because normally you say you put your thumb on this to say, I'm playing the tune now. I was just trying to communicate with you. That was it. This is all staying in. I'm not hiding in this. Out now, right? On the night, I see, like, Band of Brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks.

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Rhythm hit us different ways. Love of music I we prayed with our tongues in cheek banners. And we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise. Hello and welcome to lads Anonymous is episode 46, a podcast where two best mates of over 20 years invite you to join their safe space, where all manner of subjects will be discussed.

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We'll focus on a specific subject matter first and then answer your questions, dilemmas or need for advice or handled anonymously. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. I think we might need some, new hand signals. Yeah. I mean, yeah, we do, we do. We never use them, but that's fine. That's fine. I'm not the wanker. I haven't seen you.

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I you just be there now, all the time. I swear that, mate. Fuck you. What's going on? So the the last episode. Yeah, that we did, on competition, and then we did a midweek pod, which you joined, which was great. We had a little word. It's out. Went out Thursday morning, probably Thursday morning. June. Have. How's how's it going?

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Well, it's a midweek blast off. What you call it. Yeah. Looking at the next segment. Next segment where we've got on to it okay. So now it's going good. It's going good. Getting a lot of, people emailing and enjoying it, which is the, you know, the main point of it, just to take you away for half an hour from your life just to enjoy something.

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So the last midweek pod, we actually did a little revisit for the first segment, and that was a revisit to episode 28, where we're talking about social clout chasers. But this email was about paedo hunters revisited, so we had a little bit of a chat about that. Then we had a bit of a chat on OnlyFans revisited. And then we had some competitive stories about volleyball, a voice note on disqualification for swimming Gareth Bale.

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The witch call it. We need the sports day, the egg, the egg, egg. Run the cycle. Well, I'm having a fucking mind blowing round. I can spoon race. Fuck, fuck. I can say no. And then a gentleman being ultra competitive with his kids gaming. We had, suggestion him for that pod as well. Why don't people send in their answers for the dilemmas we read out from the previous pod?

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So sometimes fucking the dilemmas that we read out are they are. It's hard. Sometimes I'll put them in and then after we have a conversation about I'm not fuck, you know, like we're just two, two men that I don't really know a lot to be given up there, but we're doing our best. We're giving advice. So if any of you have listened to the dilemma from the previous pod and you think you know what I've been in that situation, I can I can give some advice here.

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Then we'll read those out too. And remember, for these midweek pods, it's only possible if you submit your stories to that relevant topic. And again, like this person had gone to, the social clout chaser revisited, because I'm finding a lot of people that email in there just fine in the pod, and then they're smashing through it and they want to ask questions about previous pods, but there's nowhere to really fit that in into this main board.

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So let's stick it in the midweek pod. So if you have anything that, you want to send us so the midweek pod this week would be about language, what we're about to speak about. So if there are any words that you used to use when you were a younger, any local dialects. So I, you probably know this, but knock down ginger, depending on where you are in the country.

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Totally different, slightly different name. Knock a door, run. No cherry knocking. Not not dungeon. Just thunder and lightning. What? Yeah, I know they all remember when I was a kid. So? So I would only play knock Down Ginger in school holidays during some time. During some time it went on. It was a school. All of their activity and

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Oh, well.

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I know, but it was only something to do on school holidays. I don't play, I just felt like I needed to be sensible. During term time. We would go up to Birmingham. I spent a lot of time on holiday in Birmingham, and my granddad lived. And, we go up on the train and my mum and my cousins there as well.

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Right. And it was great because they had we all have beer mixes. So we just go out and the beer mixes, the, the great days. But obviously after a day or two, right around a beer mix starts to wear thin. There's only so many streets you can drive down, right? Bunny hops. You can do. And so you got some mischief.

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And there was one geezer who hated being the the target of a knock down ginger. And he had a chain, like, and you, he also had a BMX, so we would dare each other to go up to his door and bang on it as hard as we could and run away and then wait for him to come out with, with his chain or his bat on his bike.

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And it was almost like road rash. You remember that game road, right? Yeah. Yeah, it was like that. But you in Birmingham? Yeah it is. We we always eat lot when we go to a point where we, we just got so brazen we've knocked down Ginger that we were literally knocking the doors stifled, aren't we? GP started again.

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You're wanker. I just imagine that if I do this, some young kids, you can't do anything to. I'm. They're calling you a wanker for answering your own doorbell. Okay, okay. Let's, So if you've got any, submissions of, words or anything like knock, knock down Ginger where you used to send it in to lads anon pod at gmail.com.

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Now we spoke about the, the name for the second podcast, the midweek Podcast, that we would do that will do some interesting results mate. I didn't think this name would win and it's one. Well it's not it's not called Ricky's Blast Off, but he will also number four. Yeah. And it's got a very low score. Yeah. Release the poison.

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Yeah. That's Thursday. Sorry. Next third was the Thursday turn out. Yeah. Has put pig's second was Ricky's midweek blast off. So it didn't. Which means the winner by a landslide. Yeah. Was quickie with Ricky. Okay. Well, I said, well, I've yet to. The people have spoken with spike, and they are the demographics of it as well.

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So Twitter was quickie with Ricky. So, you know, the, the more sexual focused listeners there. Yeah. I ig was the midweek blast off. So the wet dream is in the creamers over there. And then blue Sky turned out heavily for the Thursday. Turn out the mucky bastards hooked I know it was zardoz. It's so bizarre. Read it. Yeah, you're loving a bit of blue sky at the moment.

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You ready? Yeah, I am, I am. It's I just feel free over there. I just feel that I can, post a bit more without, being abused. Yeah. Being abused. But again, is, well, like in the. You know, the football sphere that we're in, I just, I just feel like I can be a bit more open and honest about football knowledge or terms.

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I'm not the fucking no xG guy or anything like that. And I'd like to ask questions about it, but I feel a bit too self-conscious on Twitter. Blue Sky is a bit more, I don't know, it's just a bit more welcoming. There's less cunts on the yeah at the moment, but they'll come, oh, they'll come, they'll come. If you build it, they'll come.

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Yeah. And then, then we'll just have to live in it. Yeah. Let's see. Plays. Before we move into the podcast, if you could, not doing this if I renewal a download and you fucking done that, we love you for it and following us on social. But this podcast will only grow through word of mouth.

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So if you enjoy this pod and you have discussions with your mates or family members that listen to a podcast, please keep our name at the front and recommend us and we would be eternally grateful for that. Now we are going to jump into today's topic, which is language. This is what the dictionary says. The principal method of human communication, consisting of words used in a structured and conventional way and and conveyed by speech, writing or gesture.

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Now this topic was emailed in from a lad because he is unable to understand what his teenage children are saying to him anymore, and I like philosophy as well. Like when we used to knock about to give up the we used to read a lot. I mean, like I, I kind of, I always had an interest in reading, but from where I'm from, no one really read as, when I was growing up, no one read or found it a kind of an extra curricular activity to do fun, to do fun today or anything like that.

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And then when I obviously when I met you, you had a bookshelf that was just fucking chockablock with books. And then you were like, have you read this? And every time I'd come and see you, you'd give me a new book and I'd just get proper ten toes in all these books. And I absolutely loved it. Fucking loved it.

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So you obviously have a love of language, and then you studied, journalism, didn't you? Yeah. So the joy. Yeah. Go on. Well, journalism is more about understanding formats and platforms as much as it was about language. By the time you arrived at university, you would expect to be able to write so and communicate coherently and concisely. But, but but what the journalism degree was, is about how, what what formats exist and how do you operate in those areas.

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So whether it be but then uni would have been paper journalism, tabloids, broadsheets and then online was booming. So it was about how to operate in that field. So it was really about how to exist in the world of journalism and has survived it rather than communication. But the best, the best lesson I was ever taught was George Orwell.

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And yes, reading his work because everything is so easy to understand. And you have it's not flowery. It's functional language and storytelling. His ability to tell a story was what drew you to it, rather than using flowery language like D.H. Lawrence, for example, which is, long winded, flowery and of less value in my opinion. Depends what you're reading it for and what you get out of literature.

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But yeah, I loved the way Orwell wrote, and it kind of I tried to mimic that style whenever I found myself. Right? Yeah. Again, it's, Orwell was like 1984 was the first time that I read something that really opened my mind to the possibilities of, you know, media manipulation and how words can change and language. And then again, the same with Animal Farm as well.

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And, I mean, we've spoken about it on the pod, and that was the first time that really kind of got me interested in any language, really. And just having an understanding of it and what words could be used and, and how if you like, especially working in social media, if you have to write, I don't know, 140 characters for a tweet.

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You know, each word has to count and it has to do something. It has to make someone feel something. And we're living in an age where it's so what's the word?

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You it has to. It has to have that much of an impact, whether it's like left or right and not politically speaking. But it has to evoke some kind of anger or joy to really capture someone. And that's why, you know, part of why I do love social, because it forces me to to write in an articulate way so that I can convey what I, what I want to, but also hit those kind of, hooks that, that, that I want to.

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So again, like we've, we've Orwell and we've read in it was a, it was a place where I kind of and then obviously knocking about the, you know, the books, the classic literature that we read. That was my real kind of grounding with, with language and, and literature. Now this is a bit more kind of relevant. Have you seen the Jaguar rebranding?

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Yeah. Okay. So there is a there's been some kind of, people haven't seen it. What would you I would say a bit, I, what I would describe it as it's been did what you would normally think of. Oh this is what I normally think of Jaguar luxury car. Yeah. With the, with the, with the, the Jaguar cat.

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The cat. Yeah. Expensive cars. Sleek. Yeah. It's it's all of that stuff. Only if you've got a lot of money that you could afford it. And back then as well, it was, businessman, rich businessman that would, that would have those types of cars and the rebrand has stripped out the actual iconic Jaguar from it. And it's mainly what is just text, different color.

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And it's a real different kind of feel to the brand, where it's more playful with colors and the advert that they put out, it was appealing to, I don't know what the latest gen is, Gen's Gen Z or whatever it is, but it was more appealing to, a hell of a lot younger audience than it was.

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And it's opened up this kind of discussion that the, the, you know, is our Britishness being eroded with the simplification of, of language and how things are spoken about at the moment. So the British culture and values and the way that we used to speak in the 1960s, this isn't the best example, I know, but everything was groovy and now it's lit and now it's just changed the vibes.

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Well, I think.

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So, so, so they've gone in and in terms of Jaguar, they've gone in a completely opposite direction of what people understood that brand to be. Yeah. They've essentially, in that advert ticked every possible box that they could tick. So there's androgyny in there. Blacks, whites, there's the, the, it's, it's very kind of you sort of left leaning, open minded trans.

00:20:57:02 – 00:21:42:07
Yeah. Yeah. Trans conscious, all those things. Right. Yeah. Which is when you think of a Jaguar, you think of a bloke on a stage in a, in Wiltshire or Gloucestershire and. Yeah, with a shotgun and, you know, a pheasant hanging over his shoulder, you know, not this. So what. So, so the reaction to it was always going to be one that was aggressive from people that like the conventional I don't know what state Jaguar course was in, but they clearly wanted to move in another direction and appeal to an audience that might be different to the one that they have previously appealed to.

00:21:42:09 – 00:22:04:12
And there's no cars in the video, so it's almost kind of like, what? Well, what is what is this? Or is you selling cars or you just trying to capture a market? And the thing is, is that whether it's the right way to go or not or the, you know, they should be or they want to appear more open minded or not, I still don't see a young person, you know, and try and buy in a Jaguar, which is what this is what you've got.

00:22:04:12 – 00:22:30:21
So why bother? Yeah, but then all of this commotion is good for the brand. It's good for Jaguar. It's good because people are talking about it again. It kind of felt like it was fading out like an old hat. A Jag. Well, I think I mean like, don't, don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure I saw something that since 2017, their sales had dropped by 80% or something.

00:22:30:21 – 00:22:50:04
Had they really? It was fucking. It was pivot or die then, right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. If you if you want, if you want to support Jaguar, you should have bought their cars. If you wanted the Jaguar to remain the same, you should have bought their cars. Yeah. I didn't buy the cars. You bought Land Rovers instead. Owned by the same company I think as well.

00:22:50:04 – 00:23:12:08
Jaguar and I think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah they are it, this happened as well like with the, the mini brand and I think this rover or something, there was another brand anyway. But, you know, British cars and this is a British institution and it just kind of no one was interested. So that they had to, to move.

00:23:12:10 – 00:23:36:18
But yeah, I just thought was pretty interesting. And like with how how people are now kind of saying about that stuff. And I was always like as a kid, I was always interested in, Victorian Britain and the way people spoke, the way people dressed and, you know, the language and stuff about that. But I, you know, as the years go by.

00:23:36:18 – 00:23:55:14
But things change, man. You can't just fucking look, can you imagine if we spoke like we were Victorians? Like, now it's always going to evolve. Yeah. And it should or shouldn't. It's evolving everywhere, all over the planet. Every dialect changing. Kids are not supposed to talk like us. They're supposed to have their find their own way of communicating.

00:23:55:16 – 00:24:15:15
And they have. It's nonsense, but it's theirs. And it's not just that. It is is it's cultures as well. Like if you're from a certain area, you'll have a different language. If you're into drill music, you're talking in a different way. If you're into Indian hip hop, you'll have a way of communicating that's a part of where, what you belong to.

00:24:15:16 – 00:24:49:08
And yeah, language evolves in that. That's because of it. So that's, that's a that's an excellent segue because I was I've got it here that the kind of as Britain is being this, multicultural melting pot, the and the influence of pop culture TV, the different way in language has changed. And just like you said that a lot of young people will use terms like Wagwan Bombay Clarke.

00:24:49:10 – 00:25:14:20
You remember as well. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. Bankert. Yeah. Pun shot. It was, it was this. And you said Bangladeshi. Yeah, it is Indian. Yeah, yeah. What it means, mother of a motherfucker or something like that. Sister. Sister fucker. That's it. Yeah, yeah, I say it's about one of one of the most kind of, horrible things you can say as well.

00:25:14:21 – 00:25:40:06
Dollar, dollar dollar. Bunch of, brightly. And that was, you know, what that like, because he used to say that in, that program. Goodness gracious me. There was a lot of progress back when we were growing. I was using these types of language where it was, it kind of felt okay because the people on TV are saying this language, so I can say that, but it also taught me about different cultures and how they speak.

00:25:40:06 – 00:26:02:03
And it was just, I don't know, I like we what? Yeah. Well, just as a kid, as a white kid going to high grade school, which was predominantly black. Yeah, we picked up slang that was of West Indian descent. The etymology come from that area. And so we would we would often use that and there would be a way of us communicating.

00:26:02:03 – 00:26:35:18
But my dad hurt me because I'm. What the fuck are you talking about? You know what I mean? He wouldn't like it, but. But because you're so influenced as a kid by the people around you, the way you communicate becomes a part of your vernacular. And, it's a positive thing. Yeah, I, I was going to ask you because, like, I, like, even now, I would, you know, I would say that, you know, the demographic of 41 year old father of two, but I would still, meet up with my mates and use those terms.

00:26:35:18 – 00:27:12:17
Yeah, because that's what I grew up with. We did together in WhatsApp groups. There's all all of us talk in ways that, you know, and as you get older, becomes less important. But every young is a part of I don't see. Yeah, exactly. And I love that as well. The kind of the way that the way that we chat and the language that we use and the kind of, that melding part and that the with my kids, I've noticed a heavy influence from my brothers in America, brothers and sisters in America.

00:27:12:19 – 00:27:39:00
Now they've grown up with the YouTube. They are the YouTube generation. Yeah. And a lot of the stuff that they watch is American. So they will say, dad, are we going on vacation this year? Why not? We say, holiday, we got a holiday. You got another day. What you say and,

00:27:39:02 – 00:28:11:18
Dad, which which ones is, does this go in, in the in the trash. Is it in the garbage? No it's not. None of those go. It's not. Not the bin. Put it in the bin. Candy. Elevate. You hear it when you hear it? Oh, you hear it. Oh. Do you have a. Well, like I say, not not a problem with the the kind of, influx of American vocab coming into our culture, but it's.

00:28:11:20 – 00:28:37:24
You know, people do find it a bit problematic, and I'm just. I wouldn't say it's problematic for me. Maybe that's the. That's a bit of a, I think, wrong word, but I still, with the girls language and what they speak is I am still kind of like, we don't we don't say that in Britain. Yeah. So realize what we say and correct them as to say, this is what we say here and this is why.

00:28:38:05 – 00:29:00:02
And explain it to them that way. Not that I'm like anti America or anti any of signs they might because it's all all language right. We have, we have words for those things. So if you're being more influenced by a YouTuber than you are your father.

00:29:00:04 – 00:29:23:22
But that's young people. That's what they always want to do. That's what I did. But yeah, like that's irritating and trash instead of rubbish. Like just don't do that. Candy and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. But yeah, that's, I mean, that's the power of influence. Yeah. And I don't, I guess YouTube is the last person, people on earth that you would really want influence in young people.

00:29:23:22 – 00:29:45:08
But so is here we are. Yeah. In terms of dialects and language and and influence. Have you ever heard Toronto, Toronto accent in Toronto? No. I, I can't remember it, but there it's it's a it's a weird accent, isn't it? Very weird. You won't be able to hear this, but I'm going to play a little bit so that people at home know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:29:45:10 – 00:30:08:05
Okay? And what I don't like is if the business is true that you left your mom's in the hood. Somebody go smoke. Dude, you don't leave. Your mom's nowhere. You have money, and you left. Your mom's there. You're. You're a sick to my stomach. But if it's not true, Shorty's just talking shit. And what if, my skin is crawling right now?

00:30:08:07 – 00:30:31:13
So Toronto's weird one. It's like they've. It's like a combination between an American or Canadian accent and it. London road man. So you know what I'm talking about. My. Let's let me send you a link just so you because you didn't hear that. So when all kind of talk about it and you do you have a listen. Can you play it while we record it?

00:30:31:15 – 00:31:12:22
I think so, yeah. Even just get it on your phone. I've just sent it to WhatsApp, but yeah. So obviously because the massive influence from Drake and how much of a culture vulture he seems to be where he is, he got sort of super obsessed, obsessed with the grime scene in, in London, and he would bring Skepta and gigs over and work with these guys and really start to talk like them, like there's, there's, there's bits in this, there's a sample or he's taken a bit from Drake in and I see Skepta tune this huge one that he had shut down.

00:31:12:24 – 00:31:34:13
Yeah. He, he's just absorbed and use some of these languages. And then the kids obviously from the area because that's where Drake from and you kind of just taking it on and it's influence all of the the way they speak. Did you watch that clip. Yeah I did yeah I, I what is that like that is it. And it's everywhere.

00:31:34:13 – 00:31:56:06
It's not just, just go I think this girl's relatively famous for it. This clip kind of went viral. But they they're all over there. Like if you're like, I know it's important to accept other cultures and your kid's going to be influenced by by the people they meet. But if one day they were just talking like normal Canadians and then they come over and they're talking like that, I think I got a hit.

00:31:56:06 – 00:32:21:10
The kid, he got hit. Yeah. I, I very few times when you hit your kid, that's one of the, the I've noticed with my eldest there has been the, the kind of odd slide of road man like how she says things and I'm like, thank you. You're so innocent that don't don't do it. It's. I want to do that now.

00:32:21:12 – 00:32:39:16
Yeah. Luckily, I know where we live. The kids are just the kind of cocooned away from that. They're all. They're all kids at, like road men in Devizes, where we live. It should be fake. I look at them go, you would be eaten alive in the streets of Edmonton like you. Literally. You would literally last five minutes before everything was taken from you.

00:32:39:16 – 00:33:06:05
It was like even growing up, I felt and having lived in Tottenham for three years, four years, I felt didn't feel most comfortable in Edmonton. That was all the places I was like, I don't really feel comfortable here. I don't want to be here. Not that anything happened. It just didn't feel like it. It felt like a place that was kind of like a wild West, a little bit like anything could happen.

00:33:06:05 – 00:33:32:08
Like it didn't. It was very, very edgy. Always on the edge, super edgy. It could go either way. Right. So I'm looking at these kids in Devizes and they've got they're not tech tracksuits. No. It's just a this is a it's just a uniform. And I'm like this, you're behaving like this and you're acting like this because you, you're obsessed and you've been influenced by drill music and look at it, and music has a massive impact on how we behave and who we are and how we communicate.

00:33:32:08 – 00:33:51:07
And, you know, communities that we belong to. Music is always around those things. Yeah. They wouldn't it would be terrible for them in it and it'd be terrible for them. It would be like a goldfish and a shark. Yeah. They would come straight away and go right.

00:33:51:09 – 00:34:34:23
Give me your clothes. I want to have a little chat about the the changing of words for the we'll say the betterment at the moment. So back in the day used to be colored. Now person of color, people that were, you know, labeled fat plus sized. I've seen a lot on social at the moment. Now, I don't know if the a common thing or if it's just trying to game the algo, but people aren't saying she was murdered or she was killed under analyzed on a live.

00:34:34:23 – 00:34:59:16
I've seen that on TikTok. On I don't know I don't know if that is part of this to make it sound less negative or harsh, but I know what I was to get impacted by the algorithm. You hear it for sure, but that will definitely transport into real life now. Probably yes. Yes. So with those and again.

00:34:59:18 – 00:35:37:18
The the bone of the the internet, we have words like selfie Noel DMs, wrathful, wrathful, wrathful. Snowflake. Yeah. Gammon. Woke. Yeah. There's a lot of new words on the stream now. I just wanted to get you like, my thoughts on this kind of, progressive way on how we use language. And, we'll have a lot like. I think this is part of the discussion as well.

00:35:37:20 – 00:36:24:00
So, like a gender neutral language. So obviously they them. Policeman turning to police officer. Mankind changed to humankind. Man made artificial. So all these types of wording that is, you know, a show of progression that it isn't just about focusing on men and that these words that were used previously that were quite, you know, insensitive, inflammatory, whatever fat plus size, colored person of color.

00:36:24:03 – 00:36:56:06
Yeah. Is there a danger that as a nation or as a world that people are being pandered to to be labeled as something, or is this society saying, you know what, we're not happy to be called this anymore, and we don't have to stand being called colored or fat or whatever it might be that, you know, the pushback on that.

00:36:56:08 – 00:37:27:07
Right? I think we've we've spoken about some of this before, but is there a I guess what I'm trying to say is like, I'll be going too far to try and label everything, to try and pigeonhole everything and have a name for everything. Or is this kind of a way to say, whoever you are, whatever you're doing, as long as you're comfortable, then be comfortable?

00:37:27:09 – 00:37:51:12
Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think so. So I think, there's been a movement, isn't there? In on on social media, but everywhere to be more kind and to be more understanding of why someone might be morbidly obese or,

00:37:51:14 – 00:38:19:05
And it's important that people aren't made to feel, you know, horrible. And if someone wants to be referred to as they them, he him, she her or he or she, whatever it is, then you can be respectful and use the pronouns that you should use and that the language changes and and be understanding of it. And like say you you mentioned colored it went to black.

00:38:19:05 – 00:38:41:19
Now is it people of color? Yeah. Person of color. Person. Yeah. Yes. It's a person of color is the preferred word but sort of term now. Yeah. So black is and then so. Well I guess if you're black and you're comfortable with the word back and you prefer that then. Yeah. But let's see now we're in that we get into really complicated and confusing areas.

00:38:41:21 – 00:39:18:12
So yeah some people it's fine but other people not. So how do you know what to say? I, I have no idea. But then as well, like with the changing of and people of color, people of color is, is grouping up a lot of people. Yeah, it's kind of like LGBT. I LGBT I a plus I think is sorry if I pictures that you're grouping up loads of people and just saying this is everybody that isn't straight, whereas there are big groups inside that you'd imagine don't want to be a part of all of those other groups.

00:39:18:14 – 00:39:52:00
Yeah, like a gay, gay, gay man and a lesbian aren't the same. They like the same sex, but it's not the same. It's they'd have different priorities, political priorities that have different, ways of living. And then you had sort of trans, asexual, like how is asexual and gay and related in any way? I know I don't I don't know if it's in there.

00:39:52:02 – 00:40:24:20
Yeah. It's not lumped in there. But again, like, yes, well we have not person of color, the progression of half caste. Like now no one says that and now it's, dual heritage or mixed heritage. Mixed race is all right at night. I think that one's. That one's gone. Maybe. I think it's dual heritage. So. So if there's no sort of slow things growing up, you knew you wouldn't shouldn't say half caste has always been to me has always been an open term I would never use.

00:40:24:20 – 00:40:44:09
It would be an unacceptable. Well, when I was younger, Half Caste was the sign. I think growing up we knew. I'm not saying it was. I'm not saying I found it. It was. It was. It was acceptable. That's what people said. I always thought half caste, wasn't it? I never I've never used that word ever. Mixed race.

00:40:44:09 – 00:41:08:00
I have used and continue to use this day because I didn't realize it. It's now deemed offensive. Who deems this offensive? How many people have to find it offensive in order for everyone to stop using it? And a case in point. My dad is says colored a. My nana used to say colored because they think saying but like they felt bad saying black like black was a bad word.

00:41:08:02 – 00:41:33:03
So you say colored from a position of actually saying this is that this is the kindest way to say this, or whatever the least offensive way to say it. But they were wrong because for a long while color's been bad. I get that up because I was, you know, I have hesitated of using the word black or saying the word black because I don't know what what's right anymore.

00:41:33:03 – 00:41:58:12
And I don't want to offend people and I don't want to get into a horrible situation. So I think if you if you usher, I mean, I feel comfortable saying what? Yeah, I do, but I don't I do feel comfortable saying white, but I don't feel comfortable of labeling stuff. Do you know what I mean? It's to say all this white guy said to me, you're like, it's just a guy.

00:41:58:14 – 00:42:31:23
Do you know what I mean? I don't really I for me, I don't like there being this separation. And to talk about this is what white people do. This is what black people do. And we've had conversations here about using the word pan-Asian as opposed to South Asian. East Asian. Yeah. Because my it was told after I said I use the word oriental, which in interestingly, Oriental in America is deeply offensive.

00:42:32:00 – 00:42:55:21
Like, and I know this because I did a podcast called The Other Podcast behind Patron People to do it. It's like CoC, and we was using the word Oriental freely, and we got really angry message from a guy who lives in America. His wife is Asia, he's Asian, and in America it's actually written in law. It's so it's so offensive that you can't use it to some degree.

00:42:55:21 – 00:43:19:17
This this was passed during Obama's reign. Mark. He was furious. And this is what I'm saying about language. It's the same word, but depending on where you are, it has different meanings and different. The weight of it's different. So we, we we got empowered by this man, and he was furious with ignorance, like, how could we be using that word?

00:43:19:19 – 00:43:48:21
And I was like, shocked by this email because it's like, it doesn't it's not offensive in England. It's not a offensive. It's not an offensive word. And I know this for two reasons. There's a Tik Tok, a who Johnny Wong and he, he talks a lot about this stuff and he says it's fine. But also, a friend of mine who I won't name his wife is from Vietnam, and she thinks the best way to describe people from the Orient or from East Asia is Oriental.

00:43:48:21 – 00:44:10:20
And she is very comfortable with it. Right. The point is, and it just goes on to say, well, that's interesting, man, because like, yeah, we have had this conversation and I was always, thought the best way was, was East Asian. It probably is the best South Asian. You know, that no one's going to be offended by East Asia.

00:44:10:22 – 00:44:34:21
Yeah, she's the best looking. It's so tricky. Right. But they if you has as a woman from Vietnam, she wants to describe herself as Oriental. Right. She wants to. And it's her right to because that's so and not that it would ever come up. But if I said that word around it, she wouldn't. It wouldn't even bat an eyelid.

00:44:34:21 – 00:44:50:19
But if you're in, if you fly across the pond, you're in all kinds of trouble. Fuck, I didn't say that. Fascinating, though. In it. Yes. Yeah. Is totally. Before we wrap this up, I wanted to.

00:44:50:21 – 00:45:18:19
Again, like I said, the words I keep saying seeing rather snowflake gammon woke this type of new language that's come in and it's it's, Well, would you say it's like a pejorative? Yeah. It's not the right word. I mean, yeah, it just has like a, it's a negative light comes from a negative place or a negative meaning.

00:45:18:21 – 00:45:21:07
Yeah.

00:45:21:09 – 00:45:47:00
Do you, do you use these type of that language in your kind of common. What woke. Yeah. Is that is this is this is it coming to your. Yes. Yeah. And like every night. Yeah. Yeah. I mean yeah. But only when mucking about, like talking and, like, having a lot of lights. I know I'm big. I get it cuz.

00:45:47:01 – 00:46:19:05
Be gammon all the time and so much so that people have Photoshop my face on a piece of gammon. Yeah. That's nice. There's a lot. Yes. It's good. Yeah. And so you kind of lean into it a little bit. Yeah, I guess so. Sometimes I think it's. Well, it's interesting, right? Because that's a good friend of ours, as mentioned to me the other day, is that woke is means something slightly different.

00:46:19:05 – 00:46:47:24
And I'm not going to attempt to butcher that, you know, and articulate how this has changed. But woke originally with something very different and comes from black culture. But now woke means anyone who is, you know, overtly offended and lefty lefty, right. They meant something else originally. And and I think this person is irritated when he hears the word woke being used constantly because it's the original.

00:46:48:00 – 00:47:31:03
The original meaning has been lost, and it still has weight for those people. But the way to make this more relative in the what we can talk about, Rick, is the word Yid, because we know, Spurs fans. It's a collective noun for describing Spurs fans, right? Yeah. It also is an offensive word for a Jewish person. And there's been this long running battle between Spurs fans and their feeling that they have the right to refer to themselves as it's as a collective noun for being Spurs fans and sections of the Jewish community who think we shouldn't be using it because it's offensive to them.

00:47:31:05 – 00:47:51:16
And the interesting thing is, both of those things are true. And, and, and this is the way language works is it is an offensive term within a certain context, and it is a collective noun for groups, for Spurs fans, in a certain context, depending on how you want to look at that word, it's either offensive or it isn't offensive.

00:47:51:16 – 00:48:15:12
So it's up to the person hearing it to decide whether or not it's offensive or not. So there has been constant this. This even went through a run in 2006 77. There was the crown Prosecution Service arrested Spurs fans at the game for singing and chanting while we were at the game as well. Ricky, you and I. Yeah, we were arrested for singing the word.

00:48:15:12 – 00:48:46:08
Yeah, and this went through the courts and was eventually thrown out because context and intent needs to be taken into it to understand that whether or not a word is or isn't, offensive, because otherwise it's just letters that look the same. So so, you know, there are people now that haven't had and gone through this conversation and had this, these experiences that choose not to sing the word yet not Spurs fans decide to decide to to say not to.

00:48:46:14 – 00:49:05:08
You know, they decide, I'm not going to sing. You know me anymore, right? And I'm going to say y word instead. So they did. And then there are lots of most Spurs fans who go to games that still sing it freely. But it's interesting that the the same word that once meant something else is adopted by another group, and now it means legitimately means something different completely.

00:49:05:10 – 00:49:41:21
So there are two definitions for the word Yid, and it's the same word that is in. That is very interesting. I hadn't even thought about that. I hadn't even thought about that. So, I mean, yeah. Right. Okay. Actually, I just wanted to this is the main reason why I brought this up, because again, in the paper, I don't know if you've seen, Sam Smith, he he's a common guy that everyone loves to kind of hate, but he has come out and he is said that he is self partnered.

00:49:41:23 – 00:50:09:14
So he's not single. He's self partnered. He's in a relationship with himself. Yep. And as you can imagine. What hang on minute. Sorry, I was just distracted by something like Sam Smith has come out and he said oh good isn't is it fucking job. Just the one going up is that Leeds job is saying, come on man. I think he sees these opportunities fish of them self partnered and for me it means nothing to me.

00:50:09:15 – 00:50:33:16
He could use these words and people of a certain demographic, certain age, and they can use it and feel comfortable and do whatever. I don't give a shit. It means you know, it does. It doesn't matter to me. But I do absolutely pissed myself about the absolute uproar that it causes. And people are just, like, foaming at the mouth.

00:50:33:18 – 00:50:51:16
How can he say he's in a relationship with himself? Just don't care about it. I just don't just worry about it. Like if he wants to be, if he wants to say that and he wants to be in a relationship with himself, fine. I'm like, okay, that's that's enough. In his rage, beaten up. Yeah. Yeah, it is, it is.

00:50:51:16 – 00:51:11:23
But I, I don't know, it does. I didn't know if you'd heard it or not. No I hadn't, but I, I'm not surprised I he is he is a knobhead. But it's not, it's not something that I, you know, I spend any time thinking about at all really. I as soon as. Yes, but but but weirdly, my issue.

00:51:12:00 – 00:51:29:05
I didn't hear you say Sam Smith when you were talking. Then I just thought when my ears perked up is when you just said he's in a relationship with himself, he's having a self relationship and I might as well. What, because it doesn't make any sense. Ricky, we're all in a relationship with ourselves all the time. Yeah. You don't.

00:51:29:07 – 00:51:50:04
People choose to be alone rather than being in relationships. That doesn't mean you're in a relationship with yourself. You just single. So it's like adding, trying to add a sign out of this important to something that is very normal. Certainly. Yeah. No. But like he's good at seeing what has he got to just fucking do this thing to see and why he got one.

00:51:50:04 – 00:52:13:13
Everyone up all the time singing Star Wars. Let's not do this again and again with that. The to to round it off, the bit about the self partner in a relationship with with oneself. I was kind of a I'm always in a relationship with myself because I'm always trying to grow and develop and understand myself better and other people around me and stuff like that.

00:52:13:13 – 00:52:38:08
So again, it didn't really make sense, but again, I didn't. This is the problem grammatically. It doesn't make any sense. And and people there is, there is. It's fine. So it's a correct correct. Grammatically what this relationship means it needs you need two things to have a relationship. You need two points. You can't grammatically cannot have a relationship with yourself.

00:52:38:10 – 00:52:57:15
Right. It's impossible because language exists. So it's insane in the same sense as saying like why? Why? Man, I don't want to be offensive. I don't want people to get annoyed at this. Right? But I've got to say it, guy,

00:52:57:17 – 00:53:23:00
People can identify exactly how they want to identify. They can. Yeah. And you can say that you you are a woman. Woman. You can say your, several things. You can say you're a tree, I won't mind. I don't care if you're happy. That's the most important thing. So there's a difference between how you identify and what you feel.

00:53:23:02 – 00:53:42:04
And then. And then the grammar, the grammar of it. So. You can you can say, you know what? I can't be bothered. I'm not going to say it because what am I going to get what I'm gonna get out of it? I'm just going to get people are going to get annoyed and that's it. So I'm just fucking not going to say it, right.

00:53:42:04 – 00:54:05:12
Well, what you can tell me, isn't that a problem? He's not a problem when you don't. I would rather not say something that I feel is true for fear of reprisal. So I'm now silencing myself because of what might come back. And that is worrying and dangerous. So this is how I mean, this is part of the the whole language discussion.

00:54:05:12 – 00:54:43:13
So when I was writing out the running order, I'm just putting these thing together and in fear of saying specific words or triggering words or anything like that, that where my beliefs were, that might be a problem for for someone else and someone listening to. I actually, to a lesser extent of probably what you're going to say, but when I was writing out the word fat and saying the word fat, that a lot of people hate that words and it is triggering for people and talking around that now is is a different conversation.

00:54:43:13 – 00:55:16:06
What do you think about body body positivity? And everyone should be happy with their body. I think people should be comfortable within that, within their own skin and that I, I don't like the way that for years society has built itself on like landmarks. And you should look a certain way. Yeah. And and stuff like that. Yeah. But I think there comes a time where it becomes full circle, where someone is 30 stone and you're saying a good for you.

00:55:16:06 – 00:55:37:20
It's not. No, it's going to be dead. You can be dead. You'll be dead by 45. Someone needs to say, I'm supportive of you, I love you. Let's just have it, okay? Yeah, yeah. But if you carry on going in there jittery, there isn't going to be you anymore. You can't be positive about. It's bucking against. So what it does is bucked against all of the things you just said.

00:55:37:20 – 00:55:57:22
Like an era where being the body positivity and people feeling secure in their in the way they look was not allowed because of lad culture. Lad mags. And there was this sort of body shaming aspect a lot through 2000 and probably in the 90s as well. And so yeah, what you do is you get a reaction to that.

00:55:58:01 – 00:56:38:17
So people are like super positive about about the their bodies and then the other and you got Lizzo who's like celebrated everyone telling her she's beautiful. She may be beautiful, right? You know, everyone has a type, but she's not beautiful by proxy just because of the way she looks. Right? Is that damaging where we have developed a culture that so understanding and dismissive and it to a point where they're not willing to acknowledge the fact that with being morbidly obese comes diabetes, heart failure and all those other things.

00:56:38:19 – 00:57:02:20
So if we're going to go down this part, I like fag, I like it, I like I smoke when I have a few beers. Yeah. So I don't want anyone digging me out when I have lung cancer. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't want anyone gone. You shouldn't have smoked. Well, I know, but it's what you're what you're saying.

00:57:02:22 – 00:57:29:05
Like, with the, the the body positivity. Just as an example, like Lizzo then she is a celebrity and she is kind of, on a pedestal for being body positive and being who she is. But then it kind of but some but she's got she's got someone going back. What I want to say because people then look up to and say, well, if least I can do it, I can do it.

00:57:29:05 – 00:57:51:22
I don't have to lose weight. I don't have to worry about the complications of have holding this much weight. Yeah, and then it's like, you know, and the health service and but the problem is, is peace and relationships and the, you know, excuse the pun, the weight of it all is it's not taken into consideration is glorified almost.

00:57:51:24 – 00:58:19:04
Yeah. So yeah, it's good. So we're going to go into something a bit more lighter now. Good. So we've got dilemmas and something only you know the dilemma is called from Vietnam with love and something only you know is called where the fuck is Walter. The topic for next week is technology. Is it helping or hindering society? Kids don't get up to mischief anymore.

00:58:19:10 – 00:58:55:13
No one plays out. Kids are no longer, use their imagination. Socializing is become an issue with people learning life skills. And this is similar to what you you, go on about as well. Flaps. So the friend food chain, you know, your of your beat is the funny ones all that lot. But learning your place in a group of people or society used to be done in pubs when we used to socialize and go out, but we're not doing that as much anymore and has technology been a good thing, a bad thing.

00:58:55:13 – 00:59:22:24
So we're going to discuss that. So any stories that you have that you want to share or anything weighing on your mind, you know where to email us lads anon pod at gmail.com. And we are now going to go into dilemmas. So, just you got an issue for a tissue? You're a bit sad cause Penguin kissed you an aching in your soul, alone in your flat.

00:59:23:04 – 00:59:55:15
Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friends, you deserve a place like you're safe to get nice and warm between. Vicky, your plans. I'm typing this from a sleeper bus in Vietnam. I've been backpacking with a power from uni for just over a month now. I was warned beforehand about the strong possibility that I'll fall in love on my travels.

00:59:55:17 – 01:00:16:18
You really do meet a lot of women. Anyway, we've been traveling with two Dutch girls for over two weeks and I've had feelings for one of them the whole time. I plucked up the courage to say something on our last night out together in Hanoi four days ago. She felt the same way and we had an incredible night together.

01:00:16:19 – 01:00:34:09
It was very special. Since then, she's been on my mind constantly. But a spanner was thrown into the works because two days after our night together, I slept with a Danish girl. That's not me.

01:00:34:11 – 01:01:16:14
That is the man non-existing, is it? And this is. Despite not having any sort of commitment to the Dutch girl, I feel incredibly guilty. Because if she did the same, I know how I would feel. It was a drunken act that I massively regret. Luckily, she doesn't know. Would this be something I ever tell her? I guess the dilemma is, am I getting too hung up on this Danish girl when I when I would have at least the next summer, she would be at least five weeks, then potentially whole year in Australia without her.

01:01:16:16 – 01:01:38:19
Also, I've known her for two weeks, but it feels like I've known her a lot longer and I can definitely see a future with her after this. Is she the right? Is it the right person in the wrong time, or do I need to make it the right time? What should I do? What? So. So he's. He's infatuated with this Dutch girl.

01:01:38:21 – 01:02:00:06
Yeah. Don't tell her about the Danish girl. Ever. Yeah, I don't yeah, that dining form. And I love that, I love that I love this woman. I would finally and then. Then two days later, I slept with a Danish girl with was wrong with us. Like we just preprogramed the different. Yeah. Decisions. Yeah. Look, you have to make it work.

01:02:00:06 – 01:02:17:11
You have to go with. If you feel that strongly, then you need to give it every opportunity. Don't wait for it to happen. There's a reason why I live in the ass end of nowhere. Because I met a girl at a festival in Portugal, and I knew that she was the one. And so I had to move my life to go to her.

01:02:17:13 – 01:02:47:06
And that's why I did. And now I'm married. There you go. There you go. I mean, again, you're going to be traveling a lot, right? You're going to be meeting a lot of people. So it's going to be a lot to put your life on hold for this, this lady. So what I would kind of, make sure that she is the one and that you are in the right place together and that you are going to kind of keep to your, whatever decision that you make.

01:02:47:06 – 01:03:10:18
And then afterwards go and see her, spend some time. And if she is the one, she will be the one. And maybe you won't even do that year in Australia because you think, you know what I found what I want, I'm going to stay here and, that's what you're going to get for our advice. Now we are going to jump into something only you know.

01:03:10:20 – 01:03:39:13
Something, you know, you do that. Where the fuck is water? I've had an absolute nightmare here that this has happened in the last two weeks. I've been seeing a woman from Slough, proper friends with benefits. No snakes in Slough. No strings. I just go around their flat once a week, server up the day. But I'm happy with it.

01:03:39:15 – 01:04:03:22
We're both happy with this arrangement, and I've been bragging to my mates about it. They're all proper jelly when I fill them in about our escapade. Sex Capades. Anyway, this girl has a six week trip booked in South America. I told her to crack on whoever she wanted. No drama. She said it wasn't that kind of trip. But she did have one big ask of me.

01:04:03:24 – 01:04:32:11
She wanted me to pop around the flat once a week to check everything was okay and ticking over. I agreed. Well, I've also failed to mention in this story it's my fuck buddy lives with water, an African gray parrot in her words. Water has been by her side for nearly 20 years and it is her best friend in the whole world.

01:04:32:13 – 01:04:54:02
Now. Water is dead easy to look after. Change the shit carpet floor and his cage top his food up with seeds at his water and let him fly around for 15 20 minutes. Jobs are good in. Okay, so I've sorted water out. Time for a quick fag fag break on the balcony and then on I trot. As usual.

01:04:54:02 – 01:05:24:10
I flick my cig off the balcony, shut the balcony door. One last glance at will, and I disappear. Only this time he wasn't in his cage. Was a. I frantically checked the whole flat, but nothing. I look over to the balcony and who do I see sitting on the railings that can't water? I I'd not put him back in the cage before I'd gone out for a snout, at least flown out behind me through the balcony doors.

01:05:24:12 – 01:05:51:20
As soon as I open the balcony door, he was off. Okay, now I'm fucked because water has flown off. And water is fucked because he's an indoor parrot flying around Slough. To cut an already long story short, I visited daily and saw water a few times, but that fucker had gone. I planned to meet this woman in her flat on the day of her return to tell her face to face.

01:05:51:22 – 01:06:15:17
I put the key in the door and to my surprise, the door swung open. Where the fuck is Will? As soon as I started stumbling for my words, she knew. She dropped to her knees in the stairwell flats and let out a blood curdling scream which echoed around the entire building. It was a bad one, lads. She was broken.

01:06:15:19 – 01:06:47:16
Needless to say, water was never found. We're no longer in touch. And that is something I need. I. She couldn't forgive him. My fucking bird flew away. What? You shouldn't have a fucking parrot and a fried rice book anyway. It's fucking over. Oh, God. Can you imagine the dread of, like, going, right, flicking the cigaret like, guidance back and looking at the cage being like, fuck, fuck, where is he?

01:06:47:16 – 01:07:12:09
And then seen him outside of me, not fuck, fuck, God damn it. Well, you ruined it. That was excellent. If you have any more dilemmas, any more something only you know, send it in. And if you have anything you'd like to, for us to discuss any stories about next week's topic about technology and how it's affecting society, email us in.

01:07:12:11 – 01:07:44:01
Lads, non pod, gmail.com and we will see you on Monday. On the night hazy light band of brothers playing tunes. Hi. Is quite midnight. Waves surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm hit us different ways. Lover music's out. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band aside we like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains.

01:07:44:03 – 01:07:46:19
Brothers.

00:00:04:04 – 00:00:29:10
I'm just trying to think of a size to me. What? I, The. What's the worst storm that you've ever been in? I remember once, right when I was fishing, and we knew that it was going to be bad weather, but normally in bad weather, it's all right. Fishing in the rain. Cool conditions is more difficult.

00:00:29:12 – 00:00:54:17
It is where. It's where comfort is. One thing that you want. And a lot of the wind can knock the alarms and give false kind of, things that you've got a fish and stuff like that. But more often than not, you're just laying on your bed, in your sleeping bags, watching the rain fall and hearing it tippy tap on your busy, which is great, is a sound like bees.

00:00:54:19 – 00:01:13:17
But when there's a cloud of wind and your baby is lifting up off the floor, and you know any minute that it's going to rip open, then you're fucked. And that's exactly what happens. Pissing down rain. My pegs are in. I put everything down. I'd even put like, a, like a wheelbarrow on the back of it to make sure that it hold it down.

00:01:13:23 – 00:01:34:07
Didn't fucking hold it down. Just completely came up off the floor, flew behind me into the bushes. Everything is saying you're exposed. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I'm just sleeping. I mean, literally bags zipped up around me like that. Yeah. In the rain as it's pissing that you said nothing you can do at that point. Do you just pack up and go home in the rain, or do you just.

00:01:34:07 – 00:01:52:16
I should have done. I just got the baby put down again, and I didn't even put it up properly. I just laid loads of things on it so that it just held in place. So laying there thinking, fuck, you know, I'm. I'm soaking wet. I'm freezing cold. I haven't got a fish. Why why am I even here? Why am I here?

00:01:52:18 – 00:02:14:13
That reminds me of Alex. So my brother's, like. Anyone listening to this, will know the engineer out. Or Alex Conwell, who wrote the intro to this music. Well, you're here. You're here shortly. He he's like, he does. He just he's just he would decide to do something that most people wouldn't do. And you go, yeah, of course he did not like.

00:02:14:13 – 00:02:37:11
So he decided to walk from some Bristol down to Bricks Brixham where my, my, my mum lives and it's like 140 mile walk and it's just something he decided to do. But it's going to take you. Works out, is taking about eight days and we're all a little bit concerned, like because I just feels like a lot a long way to walking in in, in Britain.

00:02:37:11 – 00:02:57:08
And it's not something most people would do. But anyway, he show he's like he can take care of himself. And so after day one, he, he realized the bag he was carrying was way too heavy. And it was because he'd brought a portable cooker with him. And he's like, this is madness. I can't carry this thing 144 miles.

00:02:57:08 – 00:03:15:16
So you realize you have to get rid of it. So buried it in the woods. I don't know why. Anyway, pretty on day three. So one of the worst storms of the year came in and he was out there. And he's not likely the experienced camper or anything. And he had when he said, is it just like a a piece of material that goes above you?

00:03:15:18 – 00:03:36:14
So yeah. So basically it's it's an umbrella with sides and a lot of front porch. He didn't have that. He had a material that you would attach above to create like a roof, but that's it. That's a color, like a tarpaulin. And then you put on a rope and you just leave it under it. Yes. Right. So that's what you had.

00:03:36:16 – 00:03:54:03
And you had to go through the night. You get a sleeping bag as well. This stuff like that. Yeah. That's go through the night. You camped in some woodland, get some shelter and it's one of the worst storms he's ever seen. I do love a storm, Eric. I love sitting inside and hearing it outside. Be the. Yeah, to feel a bit bad, but what?

00:03:54:04 – 00:04:13:14
He should feel bad about this homeless. Yeah. That. Yeah. Probably should have thought that would be the first. Let's not think. Actually, that's not let's not focus on that bit. Let's focus on the bit. One of my favorite things to do is lying in bed with the missus where it's dark and you can hear the rain tapping on the window.

00:04:13:14 – 00:04:34:23
Yeah. And, you know, nice and warm in your bed and, you know, it's just cold outside and you're just, you know, and you can thunder and lightning as well when you're indoors and you're in the safety of your home watching it. That's lovely. What about the homeless? So I did think about that while I was saying it again, it's like we should probably just stop this and just try it.

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It's something. Yeah, probably a jingle. Yeah.

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Them night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Highs quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till date breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Banzai. We like to speak and yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:05:11:10 – 00:05:37:17
Hello and welcome to lands Anonymous is episode 50. I'm Ricky Haze Flav, two best mates, one main topic. We answer your dilemmas. Your confessions are featured in something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sip a little bit, relax and enjoy the Purge. Episode 50. Let's change it up. I thought you chose children. I wasn't 100% sure you had, but have.

00:05:37:19 – 00:06:02:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 50, 5050. Yeah yeah yeah. No, it's not 50. Wait, did you do a couple of quickies with Ricky? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But we're getting close to a year now. Yeah. Which is a bit mental, isn't it? It is mental. Yeah. January the 23rd is when we released our first episode. Yeah. About friends. You could go back and listen to that.

00:06:02:24 – 00:06:30:14
Yeah, it's good, but it's the most downloaded episode. Yeah. How how, How have you found doing the quickie Rishi? Well, you know, in your life. Yeah, I've enjoyed actually. Yeah, I've enjoyed it. There are times where people have submitted their kind of stories or what they'd like to add into the pot, and it would be nice to have your thoughts on some of them.

00:06:30:14 – 00:06:56:20
Yeah, like just as a bounce back. But other than that I quite like it. It's 30 minutes, so it's not really, an arduous thing of, scrambling around or doing anything like that. I kind of like yourself, though, mate. It's hard. Yeah, I mean, it is hard, but I, I really enjoy actually, I do enjoy putting it together and just just having a little, getting stuff off your chest for the off hour.

00:06:56:24 – 00:07:24:19
It's lovely. And in this week's, Well, the week that's just gone, we the main pod, we spoke about technology and the quickie with Ricky. To be honest, a lot of the emails that we're sending, we're still submissions from people that had listened to our language episode, and there was a couple of tech submissions, too. So there was an American asking about the word fanny.

00:07:24:21 – 00:07:47:24
And the connotations of it back in England in comparison into, yeah. And some antiquated way of yeah. Bum bum bum. Yeah. Fanny er venerable Billy here. Pom pom here. Yeah. So if you were to. So a common phrase would be, if you carry on, I'll smack your fanny.

00:07:48:01 – 00:07:55:15
That's sounds so weird. You can't. Fanny. Yeah.

00:07:55:17 – 00:08:24:22
Dear. They. So that was good. There was, there was a submission about people making up words. Someone told us about their first wank, which is great, that the summer of their first wank. That was excellent. Six those. There was more chat about sex. Those. And there was a kind of a something only, you know that was submitted that it wasn't technically a something that of, you know, as a submission, but it was and it was top, top tier.

00:08:24:24 – 00:08:49:08
And honestly, go back, listen to that episode. So only 30 minutes right at the end, I, it was it was one of the better ones. It was a fucking cork. I sent you a message about it, a screengrab, I'll just say marriage. Yeah. So last night. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, so, what has been your favorite, Sammy?

00:08:49:08 – 00:09:25:02
Only, you know, mine's definitely the bloke you went to Travelodge because. And then a man who was 66 sucked him off because he didn't want to be rude that I didn't I don't I don't care if that was made up or not. I don't think it was. It sounds true. It was the greatest thing. One of the great things I've ever heard imagine, is the the backstory to that one is that he would meet up with his mates every year and they met up, the same mate who he would spend hours talking to online, and they would be talking about porn and that then it was just them too.

00:09:25:04 – 00:09:44:17
And then all of a sudden he's sucking his mate off. Yeah. Just and then it's like, fuck, man. Like what? How did I get here? Why am I swallowing this? And then, and then he thought, shit, maybe, yeah, maybe I'm gay. And then he tried the Travelodge thing, and, he's not gay.

00:09:44:19 – 00:10:01:23
He turned off and he met up with this bloke. I don't know whether it was a grinder or how he doesn't know, but he. He met up and he was, I see, like a six year old man and he's, he's, he's, he's sitting in a Travelodge room and didn't they go in and he goes, oh, I'll give him a blowjob now.

00:10:01:23 – 00:10:20:21
Might as well see. And then he said, I don't like this. Maybe I'm not gay after all. That isn't the way to test whether you're gay by going to a Travelodge and sucking off a six year old man. Some random dick, is it? It's like. It's like you would like if I was in the Travelodge and I was a 67 year old woman.

00:10:20:23 – 00:10:42:08
It wasn't my type. And then I. And because I didn't enjoy having sex with her, it doesn't make me not straight. He's just put himself in the worst scenario you could put yourself in to find out whether he's gay or not. Stupid. So if you listen to this and maybe try again in the right environment, yes, already I really want you to really figure out again if you're gay.

00:10:42:10 – 00:11:02:18
And I think, yeah, but my favorite something out of you night was the gentleman who had gone to it, gone back to a house party, or they missed their last try and they've gone back to someone's house. It was dark. He was on the sofa and he was getting some kip before he had to go back in the morning.

00:11:02:24 – 00:11:24:06
Someone else joined him on the sofa and he sort of. For fuck's sake, who the hell was this? Pitch black. Then all of a sudden, a hand slides down his jeans off, starts tossing him off, and he's like, fucking come on, let's fucking go a free hand. They over here. And then, he decides to return the favor and slides his hands down.

00:11:24:06 – 00:11:48:10
That person, jeans, finds a very hard cock. So it's going to be a vagina. Gee, it wasn't virgin. And in the end, he he tosses that guy off and as the light comes up, he realizes it was his mate. It's just something. So, you know, just tossing each other off Athens. It happens.

00:11:48:12 – 00:12:13:04
That's fucking wild, man. Wild. What do you call. Yeah. Go. No, no. Can't go. I've forgotten what we're talking about this week. I have no idea. Really? Yeah, really. I know you sent me a message last night. Yeah? Yeah. Oh, sandwiches. That was it. Sandwiches. So in the dictionary, this is, this going to be relevant for sandwiches?

00:12:13:08 – 00:12:39:17
Two slices of bread enclosing a filling, meat, cheese, fish, etc.. Invention attributed to the fourth Earl of sandwich, who spent long periods at the gaming table and carried a portable meal of beef sandwich with bread. That's how the sandwich kicked off. I did not know that he it didn't want to. I didn't want to have a knife and fork.

00:12:39:19 – 00:12:57:11
He wanted some a meal which he could eat with his hands and his hands wouldn't get greasy. I did know that. And carry on playing cards. That's great. Fucking Donny. He's just made the best thing ever. And they are like my dad. My dad loves a sandwich. He like to know what that does. You know what he does?

00:12:57:11 – 00:13:17:20
Any and every meal. Yes. He has to have a side plate. Small. Well, yeah. Two slices of bread that he makes a sandwich out. Have whatever food he's having, like, always have, like, so obvious things like fish and chips. He'll have chip by as well. Right. Which is understandably roast dinner. You'll make a little sandwich out of the rice dinner.

00:13:17:22 – 00:13:46:00
No. Oh, lovely. Yeah. And it's like I, you know, I probably. How many sandwiches do you eat? Because I'm always on this ever quest to lose weight. I try and keep my sandwich consumption down because the carbs in the bread, cups in the bread, butter. And then more than likely, we should. He should have a touch of my I, my old lovely Slava on that Slava that I'd never use.

00:13:46:00 – 00:14:05:19
May I say what? I never use mayo in a sandwich. And the other thing is, not only do in America like mayo, I very rarely would use my own a sandwich. It just doesn't happen. That doesn't even have punch to come through. You know what Americans do? They use mayonnaise instead of butter. You're not making a sandwich, right?

00:14:05:19 – 00:14:26:06
Require and then using butter, and then you're adding mayonnaise to the butter. You don't just ever use mayonnaise. There. Now you never know why. You must be crazy. In America, that's normal to use mayonnaise instead. Like they won't use butter and have mayonnaise on their bread. That's why part of the reason why is obesity crisis there. But but as bad.

00:14:26:06 – 00:14:48:20
But my latest double bad I am. That's ridiculous most of all. But sometimes I think, I think mainly the only reason I have a sandwich is to get to the butter, and that is acceptable that I'm not spooning butter into my mouth and just sitting there because butter is a fucking. You cannot go without it cooking anything if you're adding butter, not cheat code for any dish.

00:14:48:22 – 00:15:09:24
It's also like my everything calorific like you like if I'm making, if I'm making a ragu like we had, we had like I had five kids in the house last night. My two children. Yeah. Then two close friends stayed over. I'm the little party spoiler I've practically adopted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, basically, lives of us make it like the weekends.

00:15:09:24 – 00:15:27:18
He just arrives and it's it's an unspoken thing. Now he's just here on the weekend. I, you know what? I'm not like. I wouldn't have handled that well, like just kids around my house at the time. All right, so I didn't think I would. I thought I'd be more, like, grumpy and, like, fucking kids everywhere. Yeah. Me.

00:15:27:20 – 00:15:51:18
Yeah, but the I. Ollie said to me, look these I said why do they like, why I don't mind but why they're always here. It's never they kids are kids staying elsewhere. Yeah. And it's because of the environment we created. They like being there. And then when they said that I was I. Fair enough, fair enough. To feed them, we made a massive spaghetti.

00:15:51:18 – 00:16:13:11
My, it's like everyone loves me, but I. It's what you do. Yeah. For sure. I was getting an Ollie. I didn't have a butcher. I don't know, another pattern in the Balinese shoes, I know, but in the Pollock. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and she's like, no, of course not. No one does that. And I'm like, all right, I'll wait till she's left the kitchen.

00:16:13:11 – 00:16:31:06
Then I'll do it. Do everything right. Yes. But I mean, anything makes everything great, but it's obviously at like 400 calories per knob. But yeah, I've done that. Maybe I should fucking have a little. I'm 100% right. You just. When you're when you're,

00:16:31:08 – 00:16:54:12
It's basically when the when the record is made and you've let it sit for a bit, and it's been slow cooking in the impact. So about ten minutes before you and just put an up and then it smells fucking gorgeous. Oh. Good. Sandwich wise though. Yeah. It's butter isn't it. It's not, it's not, it's not. You don't have margarine.

00:16:54:12 – 00:17:19:22
They. So, I would, get into this a bit more, but I will. There's, a switch up my butters depending on. Okay, so you have block of butter or you saying, like the pack. I'm saying we have three butters in this house at any one time. At any one time. Different types of butter. That's how. That's how butter ish we are in this time.

00:17:20:01 – 00:17:50:21
And then, I'll get into that. The first, what I want to ask you, and this is, this is blowing the doors of the internet somewhat. What constitutes a sandwich for you? Because as we've heard in the dictionary, it is simply two pieces of bread and a fit in. Okay, so that could be anything, right? So would you say a let's take your example, a chip butty.

00:17:50:23 – 00:18:23:15
Yeah. Chips in a sandwich. Is that a sandwich. Yes. Okay. Bacon. It's hot. So bacon's hot. Go in a sandwich. Some people say sandwich should only be cold. No that's fine, it's fine. It's hot bacon sandwich. It's fun. Yeah. For sure, for sure. Okay I'm going to step up a little. What about a pie? So the, crazy guys up north make that a fucking mental.

00:18:23:15 – 00:18:48:16
What they fucking do? I hate them, so a bomb is like a basically a just a big, stocky roll. It's a roll, basically. That's what we'll say. They put a pie. Yeah. Now thinking meant it was thinking about. I'm like, I'm talking about something different. Like a, like a pie with, a top to it, a meat in it and stuff.

00:18:48:18 – 00:19:09:15
If you're thinking, nah, nah, nah, Rick, you can't be talking about an actual pie in a row. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, I fucking pie in a row. In a row, and then they'll just eat it. Yeah. That so, so technically still a sandwich, but. Right. Okay. Okay. Carefully. Not in it shouldn't be in the canon.

00:19:09:15 – 00:19:34:12
The sandwich canon. All right. Okay. Because it's crazy. Ricky, right? You got bread, all the carbs, you got pastry, which is more carbs. Yeah. And then what's why is the bread necessary? I don't know, it appears it's intended to be. And it's not pudding, but you mad bastards. Maybe the pie is not enough. Maybe they need a bit more, starch.

00:19:34:18 – 00:19:55:17
It's like that's the kind of, you know, some food you're embarrassed to be around. People. Yeah. Like, how would you. How would you feel about walking into an office with a McDonald's breakfast egg McMuffin, sitting down and just smashing it? Would you feel some somewhere about it? I would normally smash it there and then in the McDonald's.

00:19:55:19 – 00:20:15:22
Get it. So now make. And so no one can say and then walk into the office. Yeah definitely definitely definitely. So so my point is is if you're comfortable eating a pipe bomb in front of another human being, you're a psychopath. I'll get you might do mad things. When I was watching you, you're drunk in the kitchen late at night.

00:20:15:22 – 00:20:35:14
I've thought. Yeah, okay. I'm going to tell you about a mental sandwich I made that I'm embarrassed about. Now, I don't even, I don't even want to talk about it. I don't know what I was thinking, right. Good, good. But that's one of them. I'm putting a pie in a row or bap or a bomb, whatever I call it, which I'm going to.

00:20:35:16 – 00:20:54:20
It's. No, I don't know. It's not for me because a lot of people are saying, yeah, that is that, that is a sandwich, that's a salad. And then other people are saying, how can it be a sandwich when it's a roll, a rose a row, that's not a sandwich? And I was like, but then what about if you have like, a bacon roll?

00:20:54:22 – 00:21:11:06
It's not just a row or is it a sandwich? It has to be two slices of bread. Does it? It does I think. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. It's not it has to be. So yeah a rolls around a sandwich is a sandwich. I'll get there in the same ballpark on the same family tree for sure. But it's not a sandwich.

00:21:11:06 – 00:21:37:18
It's it's definitely a roll talking about family trees. And we're in the bomb game. BAP. Cobb bomb. None of them. These are all different types of, like, the thicker rolls that a lot of people have. You Sanger's pies like all different kinds of food. And would they? Is it just them in the family tree? Cousins maybe of the sandwich.

00:21:37:21 – 00:21:57:22
Oh, they're all the same thing on the bottom. Yeah. I mean yeah, but but it's that it's just where you roll Roe v sandwich. We need to make the case about this because he's a northerner and he's in love and monkey. Yeah. He knows all about this stuff. And you know, he's also not to bring it up around us as well I guess they're all the same.

00:21:57:22 – 00:22:19:19
Everything's kind of wheat based. The cat. Can I, interest you in a pitta? Yes. You can. I like a lot. I like a bit, too. Yeah. McHale sandwich, though. You can't come up here. Bread is a bread, though. Technically, it's a bread. It is. It's in the name. It's in the name. It's different. You're in a different mind space.

00:22:19:19 – 00:22:47:10
You're not in the sandwich mind space. When you hear my girls every day when they come home from school, what they have here in the toaster, pop it down. Thing is, it puffs up. Slice it butter in their bit of sliced cheese. Or if I'm, you know, feeling, a little bit happy. I'll slice real cheddar cheese, slide it in there, push it back together, stick it back in the toaster.

00:22:47:12 – 00:23:05:03
So it's like a nice cheesy. So nice. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. That would be like comfort food. That would be I'm nice memory. That will be for. Oh yeah. When they get older. Like my granddad used to chop up mars bars into blocks and we eat together when I was a little kid. That's nice with a when we share it.

00:23:05:08 – 00:23:08:20
It was. It was pretty good.

00:23:08:22 – 00:23:17:00
So. Okay. So is this different okay. Yeah. This is, this is this is going.

00:23:17:02 – 00:23:43:06
A couple more baguette sandwich or not. That's not a sandwich. Crusty roll still roll. Roll says in the name. Okay. And then, guess what you gonna say upon me? I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, but we had a quite a few emails about a bar on me, so I'm on. Yeah. Never. So it's a Vietnamese, cuisine.

00:23:43:08 – 00:24:03:09
Oh, and it's you've got quite a few emails about barmy. Apparently these these are the one. This is the one. Is it? This is the actual one. This is why people have been emailing us about their sandwiches and this is what they've given in. So it's kind of like a baguette, but it's got a lot of fresh veggies in there and stuff like that.

00:24:03:09 – 00:24:23:13
But if they and fresh pork, stuff like that say a lot of people have emailed in saying this is the fucking this is the top dog in the sandwich tier. So that's why I thought I'd bring it to the table. But this is right at the top and a little bit worried about there's going to be spit flying your camera.

00:24:23:14 – 00:24:38:18
All right. But this one hot dog sandwich. Of course not a burger chicken burger, but chicken sandwich. Oh.

00:24:38:20 – 00:24:56:21
That's a branding thing, though. That's not real. Yeah, I that there's a lot there's a lot of chatter on the internet. Just know it is a sandwich. It's in the name. But it's like I don't know like if, if it was two bits of Hovis on it above it then yeah it's a sandwich but it's not. So is it chicken.

00:24:56:23 – 00:25:24:15
Chicken. But I mean I, I've never been a chicken sandwich. I don't even know what it looks like to be honest. Right. Okay. What do you think it is. Yeah, yeah. So it's it's a flat bit of battered chicken and it sits between two burger rows, like sesame seed bun and the bottom lettuce mayo. That's it. Really? That's chicken sandwich.

00:25:24:21 – 00:25:54:05
Yeah, that's a burger. That's a burger mate. And then we saying no to burgers as a sandwich sits between two bits of bread. It's it's more of a if you're talking about burgers you're talking more like it's roll. Yeah. It's that that's side of the family. It's I only think a sandwich can be. Yeah. Is if it's a loaf that's sliced and that is the substrate to the food that the, the the innings in it.

00:25:54:07 – 00:25:57:12
Yeah. Oh yeah.

00:25:57:14 – 00:26:19:05
And it's such a funny word. I, I'm going to agree with you. I know I think the old traditional, you know, like high tea when you go for fucking cucumber sandwiches that, that those sandwiches that, that's a sandwich. We can't keep going here. Hiro. What about the cat? What about hot dog? What about you? No, no no no, no part of the same family.

00:26:19:09 – 00:26:52:11
They're welcome to the conversation. But you're not a sandwich, okay? Yes. You're not a sandwich. Get fucked. Exactly. And going back to your point about the Americans, and they use mayo instead of butter. If you were to make a peanut butter sandwich or a chocolate spread sandwich, I would never put those things. But yes. Would you use butter and then put the peanut butter on?

00:26:52:11 – 00:27:12:01
Typically in the past, yes, I would have used butter. It would have been my go to thing to put butter and then chocolate spread or batter than peanut butter. But I never would eat it. This is not something I would never eat everyday. Things, however, like it's becoming a stepfather. Obviously you're making fucking peanut butter on toast all the time.

00:27:12:03 – 00:27:42:21
Well, I have been through the years and categorically no butter. Oh yeah, it for two reasons. One, it makes the bread the toast soggy. Yeah. And two is too much. All all of that smear you need in the peanut butter and the thing you don't need. What's the butter for cookies. But it's always invited to every party. That's that's why I know I can see I can see the sense.

00:27:42:21 – 00:28:09:04
I can see the sense of chocolate spread. I probably would not date butter, but peanut butter sandwich or peanut butter on taste. Butter is always added to the party. Nice peanut butter, little bar. You always say she's asking you to put butter on there. You know how much my wife influences what I do and how I behave? Yeah, she I so what I like doing is stacking my toast as I butter it.

00:28:09:06 – 00:28:28:06
And I like the way that the, the butter underneath melts into the bread and it creates a little sort of it keeps it warm by stacking it, it keeps it warm. That's how I like to part of my toast. And I leave them stacked as I eat them. All right. I cut it in half. Yeah. She's like, I don't want my toast stack like that, I want it, I want you to.

00:28:28:08 – 00:28:46:07
I want you to butter it. Post both pieces of toast separate from each other because she doesn't want the soggy toast. I like the soggy toast. She doesn't. For some reason, when I'm on my own making my own toast, I will now only do it the way she likes it, even though she's not eating it and let me in it.

00:28:46:09 – 00:29:07:02
What's that about? What I would like to say. Number one, I've always liked your wife. She. You talking about is that we use these. She makes me. Yeah. She's correct. She is correct. She's correct. Because and again this is mainly for the butter chat. And if you in case you hadn't realized by now, I probably have a butter addiction.

00:29:07:02 – 00:29:31:05
Okay, let's just leave it. But if you butter a bit of toast and then stick another bit of bread on top, the butter from the bottom one goes into the back of that one. So one of the toast in the bottom will have hardly any butter. It would just be a soggy mess I like to have. And also this, this is going to send you fucking wild.

00:29:31:07 – 00:29:54:15
I let my toast cool down. That is mental. I let my toast go cold and then of call it go cold. And then I butter it because I want every. I want to savor every buttery mouthful. I do that every single time, mate. There's no you get you doing all this fasting bullshit when all you're doing is eating butter at every opportunity.

00:29:54:15 – 00:30:19:09
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know what's happening. I'll go for a two hour walks. I'll feel good about myself. Then I come back, get a teaspoon, have a little nub about Australia. Go. No. Like that. That's my food. Oh yeah. I sent Frank for a walk. Never that long walk and then come back to the office supreme in the office now, because we got two kids and I was starving.

00:30:19:11 – 00:30:52:11
Just when I got chippy, I had a chippy on my own in this office at 2:00 in the afternoon. Oh, my God, that's jumbo sausage. Frank, I really he's been a big bloke as well. I bet he fucking love that as well. You'll see. Mate, that's that, that is. That's amazing. We're going, you know, we've just, you know, you just because we're talking about sandwiches, I'd be remiss not to mention something that happened to me during a podcast I did with James Alcock.

00:30:52:16 – 00:31:13:23
Is that. Yes, it it's in a play. The clip. No, but yeah, please do. I don't know whether I want you to actually thinking about I don't know whether I want you to play the clip because I don't want people to not view the clip. I want to stick the clip in the episode because it is one of my favorite things that I've ever watched.

00:31:14:04 – 00:31:40:24
So if you just do a quick explainer to people, what what happened? Well, so we were talking about something completely, I think we were talking about me getting married, and I think I'm not going to explain it in full, but I think I've understood what happened. But for some reason, like, it was like I had Tourette's. Yeah, that I shout, I just went, Sam, I just said word sandwich.

00:31:41:01 – 00:32:04:07
And mid-sentence, oh no. Oh, sort of in mid-conversation. That had absolutely no relevance. And immediately I said to James, who I was with, I don't know why the word sandwich just came out of my mouth. It was literally the strangest experience. It was, let me talking now, let me just go in, radiator. It's like it was I don't know what happened.

00:32:04:09 – 00:32:25:19
Anyway, if I was to watch the clip, was going to post it on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, I'll put it in the show notes and I'll put it, when we do the tweet, I'll link it there. You get James all of retweet it, get some more eyes on the pot. Yeah, yeah, let's do that. It is one of the funniest things I've seen in fucking years.

00:32:25:19 – 00:32:43:14
It's absolutely mean. People still like. So I've just as we were talking, I've just tweeted, I'm doing a podcast, the latest episode of Lads Anonymous about sandwiches. And then I posted a picture of the pie bomb and said, this is mental, isn't it? Just to get people's gauging of it. Why? It's all right. All they're talking about is me saying sandwich.

00:32:43:14 – 00:33:05:06
About six years ago, when I was happy that it didn't even occur to me. Mate? No, no, no, that's that's it. Because it was, it's top tier viewing when you were talking about your kids. I know they're very older now, but back in the day, crusts were they, were they happy with crusts where you could eat?

00:33:05:12 – 00:33:25:12
But they would look. But right now, with the crusts taken off, I like the cross. A lot of it crosses really good. I think the crust is a bit. Not that I eat it, not that I like it, but it was never a problem for me to not eat a fucking sandwich because crust for that I did. Sometimes if they looked at me on the cross off, I would look at them go.

00:33:25:14 – 00:33:31:00
I think less of, you know, yeah, I know you're only four.

00:33:31:02 – 00:33:54:07
But no, you have to man up and eat the crust. Yeah. I don't remember cutting the crusts off my kid sandwich, but yeah, I think I think it's part of the the experience of eating a sandwich, because I don't know if it. I don't know if it's for you, you do it. But when you're eating a sandwich, you have the first bite.

00:33:54:09 – 00:34:20:09
And then there are specific bites going down a sandwich that are more favorable to a to a bite. So I would I've got a triangle. I'll bite the top of the triangle one side the next, and then in the middle there just pure bread. And that has got loads of in no crust, all the goodness of the butter.

00:34:20:11 – 00:34:38:05
And that is the one that I will saving for last the last fucking bite. Now I like, I like the texture of the crust. I think that adds to the experience. Yeah. To the. But yeah. Also what are you on about? What are you talking about. Triangles. You don't cut it down the middle. No no no no no no no no.

00:34:38:05 – 00:35:04:11
That that what you do I my missus called Quincy. I call it the corner. She does call for the width. Yeah, yeah, same as what I do. Yeah. There's some mad cases. They go top to bottom. Do you know, while researching this part, I saw that, I had to shut my laptop immediately, like, I was looking up because that phone and I just, like, I was like, how?

00:35:04:13 – 00:35:26:14
This is disgusting. If you like the crust you get, you get a crust by everyone down on you with corner to corner. You get in that beautiful middle bit. Much more opportunity of that size. It's amazing what different cutting of bread in the way you do. It changes the experience of the sandwich. Yeah I, I always remember em.

00:35:26:16 – 00:35:48:22
This is kind of relevant with the sandwich chat and my, one of my junior mates, when we would go and get a McDonald's, he when he'd pick up his burger, he'd pick it up, but he would flip the burger because he's trying to get out of the tray. And as he gets his hand on it, it should be eaten a burger upside down.

00:35:48:22 – 00:36:11:06
And we'd always used to discuss if he's having a different burger experience to watch, because we would be biting it. So it'd be bun, lettuce, mayo, chicken sandwich. But when he bites, it's just bread, chicken sandwich, then mayo, then like, is it like if he picks up a Big Mac upside down and eats it, is that different or is he getting a different experience?

00:36:11:06 – 00:36:37:18
I don't feel comfortable with that. No, I yeah, I don't think it I understand why he's just. Because I see what you're doing. You're holding it like that and he's turning it and it's doing 180. That's right. But it's never cuts him like maybe he shouldn't. Yeah. Like yeah, they intended and they would have done a lot of, testing and research on the bun.

00:36:37:18 – 00:36:58:09
Needs to be at the bottom, then burger, then cheese, then mayo. Sorry. Then tomato sauce, then mustard, then gherkins and lettuce that, you know, and he's fucking just throwing the rulebook out the window. No, no, no, I'm doing this in reverse and I like it. Let me ask you a sandwich, unless you're about a sandwich, and will decide whether it is one, and it's something very close to you.

00:36:58:11 – 00:37:23:15
Right? God involves your missus. Okay. God is a piece of sandwich with a whole boiled egg between two bits of bread. Is that. Is that a sandwich? Because that's what it is. It's, She does every Friday, I am going to say it is a sandwich because it's between two slices of bread. Chop up the egg. You can't have a whole boiled egg like that.

00:37:23:16 – 00:37:45:24
She doesn't have a whole body, does she? She. She slices the egg. She has two eggs. She slices them and then puts it on the bread with butter, salt and pepper and eats it. That's not my not that's for this to dry. It's that's that's one of the worst sandwiches you can possibly eat I think. What's your I don't know, but we're going to talk about our favorite sandwiches.

00:37:45:24 – 00:38:08:17
What's your favorite. I would okay so I I've got a few here mate. And we have a few favorite sandwiches. Well I mean can we get to one favorite eventually. You got to tell me, your friend. We will. We will. We'll get there. So nostalgia sandwich. Back in the day, I always had already know what you're saying.

00:38:08:19 – 00:38:30:17
My mum cheekily. Cheeky egg. My eye. And it was always like the salt. The pepper. No the mayo. She put loads and the I was just like, this is I've you, I've seen you eat more egg mayonnaise sandwiches than anything else. You always said that. Honestly, I don't know when there isn't a time when I haven't got an egg and it's low, low, low in calories in there.

00:38:30:18 – 00:38:57:12
That's. I think that's right. Yes. Protein in there is. Yeah. It's, I mean, I'm grams of protein. I mean, like you probably notice I don't actually if you had to guess, for, any more, I'm going to say 12 fucking now. So, so that's your nostalgia one, is it? That's how might 30g. That's a good one.

00:38:57:12 – 00:39:16:22
Free shit, man, that's a lot. That's why I say, you know, when I supposed poached eggs or every morning. Yeah. For the protein right there. Well, it protein keeps you full. Yeah. So you can get, you can stay full till lunchtime on free poached eggs. So you have to another poached egg. It's only a tree. It's only a nice.

00:39:16:24 – 00:39:37:18
Yeah. I can only do it when it's a treat lightly. I think so I'm I'm like back. Back when they know I hated it because I go in the caf and it go, let's start cooking. As soon as I walked in the door. Because here is what it comes. Poached egg. Because that's the way it comes back. Luckily, because I don't go in there much anymore.

00:39:37:18 – 00:40:05:03
Staff have changed and I have to order. Okay. Yeah. And I might have to. Month three a month, maybe now. Okay. Well yeah, it is a shame, but I was spending over £200 a month on poached eggs. That's that is. That is insane. Absolutely insane. One of my, other nostalgia sandwich. So there used to be a sandwich shop in Milton Keynes called brunches.

00:40:05:05 – 00:40:24:01
Now, I don't know if it's a chain, but it's. It was a sandwich place. All the workers that used to going to the shopping center, and they would go there on their lunch break. But this is I'm talking about when I was a lot young was food, brunches, brunches, not there anymore. Taken over by KFC. Shame. Yeah, it's bloody shame.

00:40:24:03 – 00:40:56:04
But they used to do this sandwich and it was. It's just a normal run of the mill sandwich. It was like a tikka masala, dry chicken, red onion, lettuce, but a little sliver of mayo. Corner to corner cut. And it'd be wrapped in a wax paper. When I was a kid and I'd been a good boy and I was walking around the shops, my mum can I, can I get branches.

00:40:56:06 – 00:41:19:24
Yeah. Come on then. And I'd get there and I'd put my order in and I'd eat this sandwich and you know, when it's just every bite is just fucking hitting that mark. One time I was eating, it. Felt something in my mouth, pulled it out. Just. Cox. No Irish at nine years old.

00:41:20:01 – 00:41:39:24
It was a fucking fingernail. No. That anybody would have said, that's disgusting. And that's exactly what I did. Yeah. What else do you do? But I'm not going to waste a sandwich from branches. And I fucking smashed that down, and I didn't care about that. Now, before you remember it, you remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:41:39:24 – 00:42:02:08
Remember it? Yeah. So those those are the nostalgia sandwiches. When I think back like those, those are great. And when you were talking about, My egg, my a habit. Yeah. You're right, you're right. And on when I'm on the go, when we used to record the fighting cock in London and I'd get the train down every week like my egg.

00:42:02:08 – 00:42:28:24
My number one, low in calories. Number two, it was the cheapest. And number three, just a little cheeky protein in there. So that's that's going to talk me out of it. That's fine. Now the taste wise those sandwiches they were fucking terrible. They were terrible. But the egg my just enough where you know it was all. But if I was feeling a bit, you know, cash on the cheap.

00:42:29:01 – 00:42:55:14
Fuck it. Let's let's have it. It would probably be a, an MLS sandwich. And I think it might be. I think they call it a New Yorker. I don't know if it is actually a New Yorker. Is it rye bread? Sort of pickle. Correct. So yeah, it's a it's a pastrami. Yeah. Mustard. Yeah. Can got a cheese in there as well.

00:42:55:14 – 00:43:13:03
Yeah, yeah. And it's like red lettuce is it. Yes. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I know because it's like a bit, a bit pricey. I wouldn't really go. That's not a daily one for me. If I was in a good mood I'd be like, let's fucking treat yourself. Let's go get one of those. So that's my nice. I'm.

00:43:13:03 – 00:43:32:13
So what about. Yeah. So when I was a kid, much nostalgia. One would would be cheese and ketchup sandwich fucking. That is a grim sandwich. I was a child. I know you're a child, but. Yeah, I suppose I don't eat it now. But when I was a kid, you asked me what I used to be as a kid.

00:43:32:13 – 00:43:42:07
That would be. That's fine. That's. Don't judge me because I said I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Cake. Okay.

00:43:42:09 – 00:44:03:23
That's what. And then. Or sometimes my mum would slice up an apple with cheese, cheese and apple cheddar. What? What should I do? Second, as a kid, right. Yeah. You've gone from. I'm just a kid. Tomato sauce and cheese to then fucking cheese and apple. Cheese and apple. That place is a is it accommodate a food combination.

00:44:03:23 – 00:44:22:24
That's absolutely acceptable. Yeah. Oh it is acceptable. But like for fucking high end of society we don't eat cheese and apple sandwiches sometimes. Mate, when I was a kid I would have a plate and I would have cheese, grated cheese, apple slices and ketchup.

00:44:23:01 – 00:44:55:16
But they. It's mad, crazy, fucking crazy. I don't know, I don't know, I know what was going on. My stupid little brain. So, so so that's what that's what it would be. That would have been. But then now, like, bearing in mind I'm a vegan. Vegetarian. Yeah. So. So when I say a turkey stuffing sandwich with cheese, okay, I imagine it would be a meat, but.

00:44:55:18 – 00:45:23:14
But what substitute what it is, is corn. It's like at the moment it's Christmas as it's turkey stuffing one. So I all like chicken cheese and coleslaw. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I can yeah, for sure. I've made plenty of those yet on the side. Oh yeah. Yeah yeah I do. I, I'm very fond of coleslaw in a sandwich because it's obviously got that mayo element.

00:45:23:16 – 00:45:48:01
It's got the crunch of the veg in there, and it brings a certain amount of wetness, a bit of slop to the sandwich where you're putting it in your mouth and bits of the coleslaw. Just drop it onto the plate and then you get the the last bit of crust to mop up that coleslaw. Fucking. Yeah. Oh, I might get a fucking just have a cultural sandwich after that.

00:45:48:03 – 00:46:10:08
Was there any gas that you used to go to that made my lovely sandwiches? Not really not not not sort of like go to places. There was a place in Stroud Green between Frenzy Park and Fish Pond. Oh, yeah. Do you remember Max's? And they. And their whole thing is they had free sandwiches you could buy. That was a whole.

00:46:10:10 – 00:46:32:14
Their entire restaurant was just sandwich based on that way, whatever the sandwiches were. But yeah, you managed to make an entire business on sandwiches. That's how popular. But I never really bothered. I never I can't think of a place where I think, you know, I'd go, I, I've just thought of my, one of my top tier sandwiches that I've ever eat, and it's not a place I'd go to.

00:46:32:16 – 00:46:58:14
A bit. It's a sandwich where I think back and I was like, you know, at that moment and, you know, if you think this is probably going to be the, the apex of, of sandwiches that, that I've eaten. I was in Munich with the missus and we found this sandwich shop and they had baked a ginormous pretzel.

00:46:58:16 – 00:47:28:13
They, they had a knife that cut the pretzel in half. And inside the pretzel was what you what I'd said about the, you know, the New Yorker. Yeah. So the pastrami, cheese, mayo, mustard, gherkin and that. And as I was eating it, the saltiness and the firmness of the pretzel stick with the other and great, I know, I mean, it was between two slices of bread or bread.

00:47:28:15 – 00:47:53:09
It's over. It's made it. Yeah, but so is a bomb. So it's a bap. Don't do this to me now. It's not a sandwich. You are a pretzel. I think it's a that. Honestly, I was eating then I was just like, I don't think it's ever going to get better than this. Did you did you ever go to the bagel place in Brookline?

00:47:53:11 – 00:48:14:00
Never. I've always wanted to. Yeah, I thought you were. To them. It's always featured in, like, documentaries because it's never closed. Because the they run 24. Yes they do. They do is open 24 seven. The both of them. There's two together, two separate business owners, two bagel shops completely next to each other. Well, that's meant why have they done that?

00:48:14:00 – 00:48:34:11
I don't really know because I don't know actually what the history is, but one of them is super popular. And then they just for looks good. Let's just copy them. It's like about two bagel shop, I don't know. Or maybe it was I don't know I don't know I don't know. Oh do you think do you think there'd be a different taste to the bagels and the salt beef and.

00:48:34:11 – 00:49:04:18
Yeah, not exactly. I ain't a massive fan of a bagel. I do like them, but they they really fuck me off because what I'm trying to spread. But it just goes down that hole. Yeah. So I'm just not a massive fan of it. If you were talking about a turkey and stuffing sandwich. So Christmas, Boxing Day, are you one of those guys that will make a Boxing Day sandwich 100%?

00:49:04:20 – 00:49:28:13
What would normally go into yours? But like are you he just I was going to say a meat guy, but obviously not. Yeah, but there's the you can buy like I can get the turkey crown of a, a vegetarian turkey crown. So imagine I am eating it. Right, right. Okay okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it would be all turkey sandwiches to me I like that's almost as good as a Christmas dinner the next day.

00:49:28:15 – 00:49:36:09
Shit boy. So good. So what I would do is I would I probably I'd cut the turkey up.

00:49:36:11 – 00:50:04:18
Like a slice of turkey. I'd probably put a smattering of stuffing if there's any leftover. Yeah. Yeah. And then horseradish all over it. Horsey. Horseradish. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Well, I love it. It's like the stronger, the better. Often I can't find horseradish strong enough for me. I know it's not me. Like going, oh, I can go to an Indian vindaloo I can't if I can kill that.

00:50:04:20 – 00:50:25:14
But she's my jam, I can. Horseradish. Wasabi is like that. Experience is the most pleasurable for me when in terms of food, I just really, really love it. Even if it like Burton Gino's. Yeah. When it gets so bad. You have been given a dick in the face. That's what it feels like. Yeah. Yeah, but wasabi stronger than horseradish for sure.

00:50:25:14 – 00:50:44:17
I know, although it's from the same root vegetable. Have you ever seen what a horseradish looks like? It's mentor. I think so. I grew one, but the roots went so far to the ground, I couldn't get it out of the ground. Just like a lump of horseradish. So you just laid in the mud and it's it. Yeah, but I can never.

00:50:44:22 – 00:51:07:02
I can never find a brand of horseradish that's really, like, punchy enough. Anyway, it's I it's. Anyone out there? Coleman. Yeah, yeah. Anyone out there? Let me know. Coleman's isn't the most fancy, but it is probably the strongest I can. Does a job. Does it? Yeah. I think for their experience with English, mustard means that they know what they're doing.

00:51:07:02 – 00:51:26:17
But the whole school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he offers me cream of horseradish. I want to fuck him. I'd rather punch you in the face than he. That it's not. It's not that it's nothing. It doesn't. It's like a vague taste of horseradish and no punch. Yeah, I am definitely horseradish in the sandwich for sure. Yeah, I used to.

00:51:26:17 – 00:51:49:00
I remember, like, on a after, I don't do any more about Christmas. The Boxing Day sandwich used to fill mine with a mixer, and that would be with any me, like, loads of chicken meat sauce, all of that. But I've since got away from the mint sauce. And with my question of what you guys would be for it.

00:51:49:05 – 00:52:10:09
Yeah. Lamb. Lamb. Sorry. My lamb. Yeah, yeah. Because it's mint sort. It tastes nice. Oh, it's like you should you shouldn't be eating it. It's like bonjela. It just. You should just use it for your house. But sometimes I walk past a medicine cabinet. I have a little dab. But go on about my day. You say it's nice.

00:52:10:11 – 00:52:34:12
You have a little dab. DAB of horseradish, I mean bonjela. When you walk across the medicine cabinet that I use, do not anymore. I have have you? I kick the habit. Yeah. I've moved on to butter. That's that's, Yeah. My Christmas sandwich. I would, you know, obviously shove it may more than likely it'll be gammon chicken.

00:52:34:14 – 00:52:56:10
And I would. Right. I would make sure double meat. Yeah. Double me. I'd make sure that we've well, well over made stuffing because stuffing is it's the best. It's just fucking top ten minute. So it is so good. Excuse me. I just had a little sirup in my mouth. Genuinely. Yeah, yeah, I know I could see you dying.

00:52:56:10 – 00:53:07:13
I for what the fuck's going on? I did a sort of burp, and then it's still, I just. I'm drinking a flat white, and it's just all. It all came into my mouth. It's a drink about. Damn.

00:53:07:15 – 00:53:10:00

00:53:10:02 – 00:53:37:04
Did you remember, Ben Bowman's Christmas sandwich? Ben Bowman? That was the first time I'd ever, met Ben Bateman on online. Yeah, wherever you were. Whoa. I thought he, when he was doing his TikTok videos and talking about Tottenham analytics, and he said, I'm going to get this guy in a pod. I was like, yeah, yeah, no, this stuff app brilliant quality.

00:53:37:06 – 00:53:57:03
And then I scrolled through and then I went on to his Christmas sandwich that he made as a kind of offshoot of his football channel. And I was, at first there was a lot of, you know, a lot of me, a lot of everything going. And I didn't have a problem with it. I didn't have a problem with it.

00:53:57:05 – 00:54:17:10
Then then when he met, then he made the cut of the sandwich, and it was supposed to be corner to corner, which is, that's what I'm all about. He got nowhere near any of the corners. I just thought it was just mayhem. It was chaos. It didn't. There was no order to the way guys just put a knife through it quickly so I can get it in my mouth.

00:54:17:12 – 00:54:38:05
That's what it looked like. And then, did you not remember the amount of cranberry sauce you put on it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And and the art of a good sandwich is like thin layers so you can control it. He was. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Chunks of turkey. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. All the best. Yeah. Yeah. You can't be doing that.

00:54:38:06 – 00:54:54:22
Nah. It was like oh it I hated it. And I've never I bring it up all the time I mean so he's got Boxing Day to fix it this year right. I know you have my boys. This is the perfect Christmas sandwich. And he videoed it and you're like, that is terrible. But right does give me an idea.

00:54:54:22 – 00:55:16:18
If you're listening to this, see Boxing Day, let's see your Boxing Day sandwiches. You can even send in a video where post on Insta or sending any photos that you've made. And we want to know what's going into your sandwich. Send it into lads anon pod at gmail.com. And to finish off this segment, I just want to speak about a.

00:55:16:20 – 00:55:37:22
I think it's chiefly British. The humble crisp sandwich. Well, it would be right. I mentioned it to a sandwich. You're not just putting this in between bread I. Yeah you are. No. What? So so you got a piece of bread and you've got pocket prawn cocktail, some prawn cocktail. You bought the bread and just put crisps in it.

00:55:37:22 – 00:56:01:21
And that's the sandwich. Yeah. Have you never done that? You know one thing that no one that you may that was doing that. Yeah. Chris has a side to the sandwich. You don't makes a sandwich. Eat a crisp sandwich. You put two slices for me two slices of white bread, butter, butter. Open the crisps, stick it on the bottom bread.

00:56:01:23 – 00:56:23:00
Stick the lid on. Push my weight down to crush the crisps into it. Corner to corner. Slice the fucking eat it. No, you can have cheese. You can have like I'll have cheese and chicken and you know like beam mayonnaise or whatever closer. And then you'd have a bag of crisps on the side. Or you might add crisps to the sandwich.

00:56:23:02 – 00:56:40:13
You can't just have a crisp sandwich. It's not nice. Hey, I mean, there's no bite. There's no there's no substance to that. You just eat in bread and a little bit of crumble in there. I cannot believe I thought we were ending the pot. What flavor you put on? What's your go to flavor right now? We're going to really fucking get on the wings here.

00:56:40:14 – 00:56:51:11
Hang on a second. Is it salt and vinegar now? Okay, let's take that. Have been weird. Ready? Salted. You're a fucking.

00:56:51:13 – 00:57:13:00
Only sea ready. Salt is my favorite crisps. How can I be him now I see, I knew it. Yeah it can't. Only is she's just the best is you. But it's like you can have all the flavors. There's so many. There's like mustard. There's, There's. But was it beef? German? Branston. I think they've gone out of business now it's roast beef that the,

00:57:13:02 – 00:57:34:07
They are out of business now. And I have actually a Christmas tradition. And the. When they stopped producing them, I bought a multipack just so that I could have them. And every Christmas day, I would have, roast beef and mustard. Brannigan packet of crisps. Hang on a second. Still got them in the cupboard. How long have you had the.

00:57:34:11 – 00:57:56:20
How long have you have done script at the verse. Well. And now the last I think two years ago when I had them or maybe a year ago I opened it, started eating it because it's, it's Christmas Day and I've got my favorite crisps. It was really, really stale, not really nice. I was gonna say something. I know I just assumed because it was in a packet, it'll be fine.

00:57:56:22 – 00:58:16:11
Pretty much. Pretty much. I can't say they're going out of business and you've bought yourself a motorbike and say, I'm going to treat myself to one of these every Christmas day. Correct? Fucking mental. I did this deal with my cupboard downstairs that's going to eat. I know I've really disappointed that they've gone really that style. What do you think about this?

00:58:16:13 – 00:58:37:11
I am so out of the sell by day. Why have they stayed in my cupboard? I don't know, because they they just didn't sell. Obviously they had that crisp. And then they also had, like, a ham hock and mustard one. Yeah. I will fucking bang in these. Well yeah. Yeah. So like the so like everybody.

00:58:37:11 – 00:59:03:16
So it's sandwiches stupid. It's just the most bland thing if it is just so. And the second, the second sandwich that we have in this house is a what's it sandwich I love. That is so, I remember when I was I can't believe I, I remember this and this just jumped to my head, my very first job when I was younger and I was working in a warehouse.

00:59:03:18 – 00:59:31:02
I think it's very much like that. I says, lads, and we'd go out and we'd get absolutely smashed every Friday, Saturday, Sunday and going to work on a Monday. And I told someone that I was so pissed I made myself a whatsit sandwich. I went to bed, fell asleep and woke up and the whatsit sandwich was everywhere. Yeah, by 12:00 that day, people were coming up to me and said, I can't believe you got so pissed.

00:59:31:02 – 00:59:53:07
You made a whatsit sandwich and you woke up and the whatsit sandwich was in your boxer shorts. Like Chinese whispers of this happening. It's got around the warehouse. I put a fucking sloppy sandwich. I woke up with a sandwich in my boxer shorts. How would I even gave it? I won't say his name. I don't know if they.

00:59:53:07 – 01:00:18:00
I don't even know if listened to this, but you'll know he is when he has his story. A mate of mine, was out at a pub, comes broke, absolutely battered. Gets into bed. Sorry. Yeah, he gets home and he takes a mars bar up to bed. Okay, lovely. He's hammered. He she was a mars bar.

01:00:18:02 – 01:00:28:23
He he takes off all these clothes. He works Italian and puts porn on. Well, while he's eating his Mars bar.

01:00:29:00 – 01:00:36:05
He falls asleep, and he wakes up in the morning.

01:00:36:07 – 01:01:00:06
And there's chocolate all over his body. It's naked all over his body. And his mum. During the night it came on and turned these TV off. Oh, no, you must have heard the porn turned off and then looked at him. And he's just naked, covered in chocolate. Oh my God, that is Jesus Christ, you know. Do you know what I'm talking about?

01:01:00:08 – 01:01:17:10
I've no idea. And I can't wait to jump off this spot. A fun final thing before we we move on, Rick, is that. Yeah. So what? I was really hammered one night, and I was starving. You know, you get be hungry like you've eaten, you've been drinking, gets about 1:00 in the morning or whatever it might be, and you're starving.

01:01:17:12 – 01:01:44:23
Yeah. You know, I'm talking about, after all, white people get kebabs and shit right in the night. Yeah, I, I made burger, veggie burger, veggie burger. Yeah, with the soup. Noodles. Chicken soup. Nader's. All right. Well, yeah, a burger with chicken soup and noodles in the middle of it. Well, well, in a sandwich and and veggie burger.

01:01:45:00 – 01:02:02:07
Like the cheese slices. What's that? And finally, you know, you remember that little Manhattan round pizzas? Little. The small ones in Manhattan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them. Well remember that.

01:02:02:09 – 01:02:36:17
In between the bun pizza soup. So this other cheese. But this one, this. So was it, was it a roll or was it a sandwich. It was it was it was a roll back burger. Back. Right. Okay. So so you did have a bit of it's stack up stage in that. Yeah. What. There was nothing. There was no extra slices of bread for like to divide that club sandwich you've got like the lettuce and a no, no, no, no.

01:02:36:17 – 01:02:55:06
So it was just pizza. The pizza. Super noodles and cheese. I mean, and that's that's something I didn't want to tell people when I woke up and when I was up, thank God I didn't come downstairs and find me. You know, I didn't be sitting there with a pizza with the bun 1:00 in the morning. Now a.

01:02:55:08 – 01:03:19:03
It's absolutely disgusting. And would you would you have a sandwich? No, it's a bogus. I don't know what it was. It was a fucking monstrosity. That's what it was. I think we'll end that there. Yeah, right. We've got dilemmas and something of, you know, for next week's topic, we're going to be talking about Christmas Day. So what does your Christmas Day look like?

01:03:19:05 – 01:03:40:12
What are your family traditions? The snacks and nibbles. The timings. Do you do presents first? Do you have your dinner at 12:00? What is the worst Christmas date you've ever had? I know the worst Christmas day I've ever had. I know that I want to hear you. I want to hear the audience is your mum went to work instead of being there when it.

01:03:40:14 – 01:04:02:04
Yeah, my mum went to work to help adults with learning disabilities, which is a really noble thing to do on Christmas Day. Yeah. And, me and my sister, I can't even remember where we were, but my, my mum wasn't there on Christmas Day morning. It was just me, my sister and I can't remember who, maybe grandparent or even next to.

01:04:02:04 – 01:04:18:22
No, I don't even know how they have your mum. Because she was helping. Yeah. Never let her live that down. Well, see, that's that's on you, Ricky, you're the problem here. No, I'm not the problem. Your mum, she's my my my mama. What, have you been a mum on Christmas Day? When you're a kid, she's got us.

01:04:18:22 – 01:04:36:03
She's got an important job in helping people with learning difficulties. Yeah, I know, but, you know, I'm going to the things I love about you today. Ricky's. You don't care about the people with learning difficulties, and you don't care about the homeless as long as you're warm inside. I care about people with learning disabilities greatly, but not on Christmas Day.

01:04:36:03 – 01:05:06:13
And if it concerns my mum, I and the homeless thing. I volunteered for two years at a homeless camp. You did you do that? Why did you do that? Because when me and my daughters were, we were out shopping or something like that, and there was quite a few homeless people, and I was giving them money. And then I got to a stage where I'd given out quite a bit of money, and I thought this, you're asking me questions.

01:05:06:15 – 01:05:33:07
And I think one of my daughters mentioned something about maybe drugs or something like that. And I was like, no, that's not, that's, that's not the case. That's the misconception. I started explaining about how people, do become homeless and I and the, the different types of homelessness that, that people suffer with. And then I would go to work in the morning and I'd still see loads of homeless people and I'd give them money.

01:05:33:07 – 01:05:54:20
And then there must be something more that I can do then, you know, giving them a pound or pounds 50 or whatever as I'm walking past. So I decided to, for two seasons to volunteer at a Milton Keynes homeless shelter. What did you find? What did you do? Why did you stop? Was it too much? Well, it Covid happened.

01:05:55:00 – 01:06:20:10
I say it's Covid finished now. Yeah. It's finished. And now I've. I've done my two years of living in Syria, so it's kind of like. So I was going out on a was it two days a week on Monday and a Thursday from six in the afternoon o 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. or 510. But I wanted my kids to see me where I was going and why I was going there today.

01:06:20:10 – 01:06:39:13
What is important? They remember it now. They remember every single bit of it. And they know why. And when I did that and all stuff. So that was it was to teach them a lesson, but then also to I couldn't keep giving them 1.50 pound but I could give them a time as for free. So I did that.

01:06:39:14 – 01:07:09:03
Right. Right. Yeah. So if you've got, Christmas Day stuff, I many people have different traditions and we would like to hear your traditions and how your Christmas Day looks compared to everyone else, and especially the people that are listening to this podcast from all across the globe. We did a Spotify Unwrapped for this podcast, and this podcast is listened in over 60 countries.

01:07:09:06 – 01:07:35:07
It really 60 countries across the globe on Spotify. Listen to this podcast. Now we want to hear from you guys on how you celebrate Christmas and how your day looks. So I'm Alison at large. Anon pot at gmail.com. And we are going to jump into dilemmas.

01:07:35:09 – 01:08:02:00
So just started you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad cause cat will taste you and I can in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Vicky. Offended? Let that stress off your chest. Well, friend, you deserve play like you're safe here to get nice warm between Vicky your legs.

01:08:02:02 – 01:08:39:07
Got a dilemma for ya. I'm 23 year old lad who has been in a relationship for almost three years. The relationship is amazing and everything I could ever want it to be, where almost everything in the whole relationship. I've had two blowjobs, which only ever happen when my missus has too much to drink. After listening to Jason. So Jason is Jay a fun times of Laughter now is a podcast that Flav does with another person.

01:08:39:09 – 01:08:56:13
I should have gone into my car. I guess it's a it's a football and a football podcast. Go and check it out though. You said another person that you did want to name him like, yeah, the jealousy issue. No. Yeah. They were they raised. They want to go take the give and seem like it's out of that fucking like that boy.

01:08:56:15 – 01:09:27:01
Is flying. Recently I noticed your bit about asking for blowjobs, and it made me realize the situation I am in isn't exactly normal. The dilemma I'm having is that I crave blowjobs every time we get down to it, but she straight up refuses. Should I get bros to do it once a month to tame the urge? Yeah, or explain how I'm feeling where the risk of her going off, going off on me and potentially leaving me.

01:09:27:03 – 01:09:46:03
Now, I'll be honest it. I haven't listened to Jasmine and that episode. Can you remember what this blowjob asking was? So we were talking about it. I think we spoke about it as well. Maybe. Or maybe it's on the fighting cock. I know, I think it was, it was actually the preview pod behind the table, I think.

01:09:46:04 – 01:10:07:11
Right. And it was anyway, it doesn't the it was. Why is it, why is it, why don't men ask for blowjobs from their wife? It's. You just can't can you? Can't have a blowjob like middle of the day. So you're laughing because it's weird. You couldn't say that, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's. There's an etiquette to it. You can't ask for a blowjob.

01:10:07:13 – 01:10:27:03
And we're trying to figure out why. Why can't. You can ask for a cup of tea. You can ask for a lift to the train station. You can ask for a cuddle or something special for tea. Yeah. You can even ask for sex to some degree. Yeah, but you can't. In the middle of. They got to your wife and go.

01:10:27:03 – 01:10:48:05
Can I have a blowjob, please? Oh, certainly. Most people can't. Yeah. So we're just trying to figure out why is that the case? So then we put a challenge out to people to do that, to video themselves asking for a blowjob from their missus. And we had, we had about 2 or 3 people do it. So can I have a, can I have a blowjob and undergo in what.

01:10:48:07 – 01:11:11:06
Okay. Well yes. Yes. So kind of a blowjob then. Shit. No. And you go okay. And that was video that said. And we played the video, the winner was when the lad went, can I have a blowjob? And she went, yeah. And he got himself a blowjob. However, it isn't normal. Amazing. Yeah, that was amazing. So that was what the situation was and we just asked, but can I just answer the question though, because.

01:11:11:08 – 01:11:37:18
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's not. Some people don't want to do it. They don't like they don't like the idea of of that. And some men don't like going down on women. Eva. No. And how much can you crave a blowjob, really? You think? I think you crave it because you don't get it like that. That's the thing I don't, I don't craving.

01:11:37:20 – 01:11:55:16
I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say I crave them. You'd like one that you always. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think really, isn't it. Yeah. Just to be near it. That'd be nice. But just to blow on it, you don't even have to touch it.

01:11:55:18 – 01:12:15:16
Should you go to a bra? I think that's always the best. The first solution to every problem relationship problem is a bra. I think you just got to accept that isn't something she wants to do. Is more important things in relationships than these things. And you just have to suck it up and not have one.

01:12:15:18 – 01:12:39:05
Do you think it's even worth, approaching the subject of women? It. Because you can't ask for ask for sex? I don't think because he and Ben Bowman now does, he said it's the problem with it. Asking for it is, you see, seem needy and desperate. Yeah. And that's not a sexy place to be needy and desperate. No, that's.

01:12:39:05 – 01:13:06:00
No, that is not a great place to be it. So now I would say that there is maybe a if not to say you're sitting there, say, please, please, can I have a blowjob in that manner? But just maybe if there's something on telly and something like that happens and you'd be like, oh man, I, I love a blowjob or just something just to kind of subtly flow in there.

01:13:06:00 – 01:13:23:09
Once you've done that seed and she knows, leave it, never talk about it again. And if it happens because she knows that you like that and she and she still doesn't want to do it, that that's that's the lay of the land. Forget about it. Yeah. So you're saying, like, just float the ball in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:23:09 – 01:13:48:21
She connects with it. Don't don't whip it in. Relatable. Not really in not in. Yeah yeah yeah. Just float it. Just float it. Yeah. Maybe she, she might be in the back post. Yeah. You didn't smoke on the end of it. Yeah. Okay. And now we're going to go into, actually inside of a diet. Oh. Like a cheeky Dayak black.

01:13:48:23 – 01:14:09:19
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Just see if she gets on and on the end of that track and so. Yeah. Okay. All right, well, we're moving on to, something only you know.

01:14:09:21 – 01:14:16:13
Why something, you know.

01:14:16:15 – 01:14:47:16
This is the single and biggest mistake of my life. And the embarrassment I feel for doing this lives on the back of my mind to this day. When I was about eight during Euro 2016 match attacks. With a craze amongst my friends, all our lives essentially revolved around the Euro match attacks. I'm one of my best friends from primary school, had a limited edition, signed Gareth Bale as a bunch of Welsh kids.

01:14:47:22 – 01:15:15:24
This card was possibly the best thing ever to own. One time when I went around his house, I saw the card left out. When he went to the toilet, I couldn't help myself so I slipped it into my pocket. A few days later, he was crying, saying he'd lost the card, and I knew at this point I'd gone too far, but is now beyond the point of no return.

01:15:16:01 – 01:15:46:04
I had the card and felt so guilty about it. My next move. I didn't even see this coming. I threw it off the side of a ferry while I was going on holiday. I have no idea why I did this in my state of panic. I've never told him about this. Eight years later, and he occasionally still brings up the fact that the card that the card is now lost, and he and he's still sad to this day that he lost it.

01:15:46:06 – 01:16:05:11
And that is something only I know. Why didn't he just place it back somewhere in the house so he could find it? Why don't you throw it off the side of the fairy box? I just love the human condition of when you're in, get rid of just and off the side of a fairy. No one's ever going to find this off the side of a fairy.

01:16:05:12 – 01:16:24:12
What? What she takes card. Was it? It was a signed Gareth Bale one. Oh, some of the Welsh, but it would have been, you know, that would have been the go card. Win it back then. Some of them are super valuable as well. The match takes and I just bobbing around in the sea somewhere. Absolutely love that.

01:16:24:14 – 01:16:41:12
To get rid of it just to win a game. Getting called far away from me as possible, floating off the side of a ferry. It's unreal. So easy to fix that problem just when he secretly just put it down the side of the sofa and find his mum was like, oh yeah, just even if you're at school, just leave it.

01:16:41:12 – 01:17:05:04
It is not by his desk or something like that. No one would have to know. Yeah, but you know, fucking it off the side of a fairy that is, that's that's great. So for next week's pod, the topic is Christmas Day and how you spend Christmas Day. Your traditions, what family come round, places you go. What time do you open your presents?

01:17:05:04 – 01:17:28:00
When do you have your meal? When do the cheese and crackers get brought out? Is it early afternoon? Is it evening? Oh no. Early afternoon. It's like literally nine. Oh I probably got a bit earlier but yeah yeah yeah yeah maybe let's give it some people might even go early in the morning. Not as stupid. I can't, I can't make it through the day without falling asleep.

01:17:28:00 – 01:17:49:15
I've never been able to. And and it's not me that's not normally what I do, but something about Christmas. Start drinking super early, then. That's the thing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So it's the red wine. It's the red wine. As you're cooking, I see milling about fucking absolutely love it. So anything that you've got about Christmas Day, your traditions send it in to lads.

01:17:49:17 – 01:18:00:03
Unknown pod at gmail.com. And until then, we will see you on Monday.

01:18:00:05 – 01:18:23:13
The night hazy light Band of brothers playing tunes high as quiet midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band is we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

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Ricky, have you seen the, the new banger that's out there on YouTube? I have actually, really? What is it? I don't know how you pronounce the artist name. I know the way. School songs. Good. Cheat. Chichi. Chichi. Chichi. Chichi? Nah. Maybe Chichi enough is, just a China. Just a China. China. It doesn't matter. And the name?

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Peggy. That's a song. That's a song. And literally, my daughters were telling me about a song last week, and they're saying, dad, if you heard about this song. And I was like, no, they said, it's called Peggy. You don't love it. My daughter's 11 and 13, all right. And they were telling me about this song and how it's disgusting what the person say.

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And I know that. And I was just like, yeah, I'll get round to looking at it. I'll get around to it. I hadn't seen it and then I, I saw it. Yeah. I mean I've seen it about 17 times.

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I can't, I don't know what. So in like what is so because I don't know what it is. It is it's hard. So I'll take you I take loads of people that don't know. I'm going to play you a minute of the song and then we'll carry on this conversation, okay? Okay.

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I told you quit and you tried to get rid of me.

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Pegging that man at the back of the bus playing that three six Mafia. I'm going to fill out this noise of dust. These niggas always talk and tell them niggas I'm gonna fuck I got an Asian. You from West trynna pick me up in a lumberjack I told that man that I love show man because I wanted cheese.

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And I'm putting these niggas in that. If I get this I'm gonna repeat it. Just got a triangle strip last week and I'm out and I cannot do this. I left and going right, he ain't going to fuck me in some period. I'm in the back of the county party and he's walking the Pope in the park. I got him back to the spot, my spots in the back of the family talking trash these men when I act like a beast.

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So I put these men in the cage. I made a cool down, dude. I say oh my niggas a button all over his face. Shorty. Right there go. Lovely. Yeah. So look, too many people have watch that in two weeks. I don't get it. I'm trying to find a way to articulate why people are doing that, why so many people are doing it.

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It's shocking. Right? It's shocking. I'm not like sitting here going, oh my God, this is terrible. It's not that. It's just not common in for a female in the UK to be as provocative, but it's beyond provoked. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like this is weird. What somebody weird about this is something about it that is just off center.

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And it's. And when I'm when I say off center, I'm off. Like a lot of, you know, tons of hip hop and, has, you know, debatable. You know, a lot of it is not a lot of it. Some of it, like DMX, for example, raps about some horrendous things, as did Eminem, as did biggie write some stuff that is not acceptable, like I'm talking about sex with minors, rape, murder, all of that stuff.

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And it's kind of it was seen as art and it is art, whereas this is like this girl from London who sounds pretty well-educated in terms of the way she speaks. It's almost like she's come from she hasn't come from the ghetto, you know what I mean? So just come from a rough background. You can hear it in her voice, the way she enunciate that she's come from a place of insecurity, I think.

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And wealth. Yeah. And obviously she chosen to do so. She knows what she's doing. I think that's that's the this. So this is what I, we were having a discussion in my house about. It's kind of like what what are we doing now. Like what how is the world playing out? So in order to get discovered, social media is a free tool.

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And in order to get discovered and get traction on social media, you can't be. I mean, you can, but it's very rare that it happens that if you are neutral, if you're vanilla, it has to be. You have to make someone really angry. It has to be something really derogatory. It has to provoke comments and reaction and engagement.

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And this exactly does that thing. So now everyone is comment on it, everyone is sharing it, everyone is talking about it, and it's not for the right reasons really. So it doesn't matter because they've got they've got that kind of, spotlight on them that they wanted. And once you get a leg up on that and then you bring out your Nexon and then you bring out a podcast, and then you bring out your own makeup line.

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So it's it's like, that's how you do something so wild to get the attention. And then you pivot if you just what if you have audience, you have a career, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Whether it's, positive. If it is, if it's, you know, seen as a positive thing. This is why rage baiting on online is so successful and so many people do.

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It is because it brings an audience and you bring an audience and suddenly you make you can make a lot of money, right? And 2 million views in two weeks is significant. It's also weirdly not awful. It's like, thank me. Like I'm pegging that man at the at the back of the bus, right? Yeah. And we're not talking like she's a lyrical genius.

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But there's also there's something about this captivating to watch. And then on top of that, she's saying these explosive things that are going to make people go, what the fuck? I'm this there's a lyric where she's saying something like, she gets fucked on her period or something like that. And I think she says that she's you're not having sex.

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To me, that's on my period. I think she says, right. Okay. Yeah. She said, she says, I'm in this right. Then I'm in the I mean, I'm in the back of the car with your daddy, and he's twerking and pop in a perc. I got in bend in his bum like spice in the back of the van.

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And they stop and search. These men want to act like a beast. So I put these men in a cage. I made a call. Now, two days later, my N-word, a possum passing all over his face. So what's that is? Created a so she says, ain't your daddy suggesting my dad or whoever this is that she's she's putting him in a cage and she's calling him the men that she knows to come and come on his face.

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That is mental. Especially if you actually sit there. Visualize that if she died in a cage, this trust. Yes. I don't know what else to say about that. Really? He's mad that your daughters have seen it before you, you know, I mean, it is. And the thing is as well about it, I. I'm trying not to be that dad.

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I know that eventually I will turn into him as to be not my children. I've got to say this. This is bloody disgusting. This is, you know, all of that. At the end of the day, they do. Hey, they're young. When I. When I was a kid, I was listening to fucking Eminem or whatever it might be that was trendy at that time because of the lyrics or what they were saying, or doing the music videos and roses in secret because of all the swearing.

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Like if my dad and my mom went in the house, I'd have it all not listen to it in my bedroom. But if they were, I put my headphones in and just listen to that. I know that was nothing. It's not. It's like, that is this is what it is. And and rap as well. I know it's cause some controversy.

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Yeah. I mean that was an even then that came out. Oh yeah. It's worse than that. It feels. Well I don't know. It's just it maybe because it is it because it's women. They've got the power and people are a bit like, well this is all about female dominance isn't it. It's all about the dynamic has changed. Yeah, I guess so.

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But what do you mean? There's an additional amount of, critique over it because it's a female doing it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That that's a weapon for her. That's that's something she can use, for sure. It always is about dehumanizing. And what's the word, emasculated men. Yeah. And then and then there's a subtext in society that there are lots of men that are into that on a sexual level, I think.

00:09:05:09 – 00:09:26:20
I think there might be as well, you know, there's tons in there. Yeah. You're one of them. Your mum doesn't. Your mom does it to me anyway. What are we talking about is the, we've got music.

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On them night hazy like Band of Brothers playing tunes. Highs quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm of different ways. Love of music are. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Promise.

00:09:52:17 – 00:10:20:10
Hello and welcome to lads. Anonymous is episode 54. I'm Ricky, he's Flav, two best mates. One main topic. We answer your dilemmas. Your confessions are featured in something only you know. And everything remains anonymous. Always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the pot. How's it going, Flav? All ready for Christmas? No no no not really. No I've got I've got I haven't I've got some stuff to do.

00:10:20:12 – 00:10:41:12
Well I when the time comes out when Christmas Day is on Wednesday in it. Yeah. No I'm not ready. What. Are you ready? No. Fuck no man. Fuck no I hang on. So you're deciding instead of to get ready for Christmas? Go on lads, piss up today pretty much. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I like that's that's I can't and then tomorrow can't do it tomorrow.

00:10:41:12 – 00:11:06:05
Obviously Spurs planned so. Exactly. Sorry. At the time of recording. Recording. It's on Saturday. It's coming out on Monday. Yesterday Liverpool we played Liverpool. We beat Liverpool. Yeah. So when are you going to get ready. You're going to take today Monday. Well I have to do what. Yeah Monday and Tuesday. Same Monday and Tuesday is basically going to be my I've got all the presents.

00:11:06:07 – 00:11:31:24
Just need to wrap them. But the main thing I need to do is the Christmas shop food. I haven't done, the food haven't done, but we're away. So we're at my Mrs. Parent's house. Christmas for Christmas Day. Yeah. And then Boxing Day in the lunchtime. But it's going to be the second Christmas dinner. My Mrs. Auntie.

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Then Boxing day evening, my family come over to mine, which will be more of, kind of cold meats and, you know, are you going to take the cold meats from your mother, your mother in law's house at home? No no no no no no no no. So I need to go out shopping and get a joint of gammon and roast beef or whatever it might be that win.

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So I'll probably cook that Boxing Day. Maybe it's just not gonna be cold. I'm going to be I don't know why I'm getting stuck up on this, but it's not going well. Yeah, it will be. It will still be warm if you cooked it on the on the same day. I'll cook it in the morning and leave it out on the side to cool down all day.

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It will be cold right? 24 hours. You right. I'll do it on Christmas Day then.

00:12:23:19 – 00:12:52:05
The Christmas day. Come on. But all the little nibbles as well, because I always go fucking overboard. And I said this on the quickie with Ricky midweek pot, talking about your Christmas stories and how you spend your Christmas days. And I was saying at the beginning that I, I'm kind of like, ready. But every Christmas I always go, I'm fucking nuts with the food.

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Like, the whole world shuts down for two weeks. We can't go anywhere and we have to live and eat and get all the best stuff. And it's ridiculous because I buy so much food and Christmas and January, I want to get back on the health and I want and I, I don't want to. It's a new year, a new me, a new body, and my carpets are chock a block with the bad stuff.

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And I think I need to eat it because I don't want to waste any money. So I'm munching my way through a sack of ready salted peanuts. But it's already January to 12. How many more peanuts can I fucking eat? I'm not wasting it. So then it gets to 50. So you'd rather put like. And I'm six 7000 calories in your body rather than license and peanuts.

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That's absolutely. Yeah. Yeah absolutely. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. We're, we're on the same page and that always happens every year. So I've left as late as possible to get the Christmas food so that we're not munching away all the way through December. And I got Christmas Day will be. That's the fun of it, right? It's got loads of food in the house.

00:14:03:00 – 00:14:22:04
You're just buying enough food for one Boxing Day? No, for that, for that Christmas Day to New Year for a week. And you don't think so? You got you going to be a little bit more spendy with it or you just. Yeah. Same amount. Yeah I will be a bit more spending spendy. What what kind of products might you get.

00:14:22:04 – 00:14:48:07
Like you buy some after eight months in. Oh yeah. Standard. Standard. Yes I'm talking about buy normally right. Yeah. There's more of the, you know, picky dinners, those types where it's like everything in breadcrumb. Anything I say in breadcrumbs is fucking going in my basket. Anything in batter is going in my basket. All that stuff. Twig. It's Pringles.

00:14:48:09 – 00:15:11:01
Gotcha. Well, all of that shit. Have you ever done your Christmas shop before? Oh my my I'm was my dad's done it and we're going to is. Oh okay. So but yeah. But what about the time between Christmas and New Year. You still just going get ready. That's every day. Well. The shop. Sorry if we can go.

00:15:11:01 – 00:15:29:08
I don't know, yeah, I don't know me either. I, we probably will get some stuff somehow that I, I'm not. I haven't bought or even bought enough presents yet. I can't think about that stuff. Oh. He's working right. Oh. Anyway, so it's not like we're off. Oh, right. Man. I'm working. She's working. So it's not really very Christmassy, but.

00:15:29:10 – 00:16:00:15
Well, they're on, the midweek pot. We have, a quickie with Ricky. There's someone at the, they used a wonderful turn of phrase apples of the earth for describing potatoes. And I was like, that is. That is superb. And I found out since that, everyone has been asking me, apples of the Earth is actually a is what they call potatoes in France.

00:16:00:21 – 00:16:28:08
I didn't know that. Pondicherry or Pondicherry, I'm that's what it translate to. And then this person went into slagging off potatoes and saying they're the most overrated thing going. That's who said that. Yeah I yeah. Exactly. Say overrated. They're literally the most that versatile food you can have. I was furious, I was bloody furious. Absolutely furious. What.

00:16:28:08 – 00:16:51:11
So I mean overrated did not lots of people eat potatoes like everybody eats potatoes? I can understand for how popular they are and how it is quite a basic taste. Those two shouldn't be the same, general. I mean, I can understand that that. But they're just so useful in the kitchen. Their point is that it's not the potatoes people love is what you add to it.

00:16:51:15 – 00:17:10:15
If you have a jacket potato, you have loads of butter. And so yeah, yeah, if you have mashed potato it's cream and it's, you know, so it's like yeah. But don't you add seasoning to everything. Yeah. It's like you. So he's just walking around only and stuff. It doesn't have to be season.

00:17:10:17 – 00:17:27:05
He's just by loads of ready meals because there's loads of salt and stuff in that. I think I don't get that and I don't abide by that at all. I think he's just being a contrarian. I think you're. Yeah. So I know they're definitely listen to they say this is fluff. And do I know they say you do know them.

00:17:27:05 – 00:17:59:09
Yeah, yeah. Whoever you are, you just fucking shut up. Shut up. We had some entries from Australia. How they celebrate their Christmas, Norway and other traditions that people had realized that weren't normal. So one of them was, a person had emailed in to say that when they when they were younger, they'd go up to bed that go up the stairs and they would him and their siblings would all sing Jingle Bells, and that's to Santa.

00:17:59:11 – 00:18:23:00
They're going to bed. So when they wake up in the morning, presents will be under the tree. When he got with his first girlfriend, they lived in a flat and that person had children. And he asked, how is how did you do the going up the stairs bit for the Jingle Bell song because you've got no stairs. And how will Santa know that this they can leave presents under the tree?

00:18:23:00 – 00:18:33:09
And she looked at him dumbfounded. I say, what are you going on about? And it was it. And it was that at that point he realized that it was only a tradition in his house.

00:18:33:11 – 00:18:53:07
And he thought that everyone was doing it, so everyone did. That's what everyone does every Christmas. That's how everyone knows. And it this I know this isn't very Christmassy, but it reminds me that that, that clip of that, it's a podcast. I don't there's so many podcasts, too many podcasts now. Right. Anybody who just wants that has an opinion you're going can start a podcast.

00:18:53:07 – 00:19:13:20
The irony of this being a podcast is not lost on me. But but he's this bloke was like this broken woman, we're talking about going for a poo. And he was he goes, you touch shit every time you poo. And she's like, no you don't. Yes you do. Here's how do you shit. And she goes like normally like everybody else.

00:19:14:00 – 00:19:35:01
You goes so you don't poo into tissue. You, you poo straight into the water. And she's like, yeah, everyone please straight into the world. And he's entire life he's been catching the poo from his bum and then putting in the work of a scene. That clip at no point in his entire life go, why am I catching this poo?

00:19:35:03 – 00:19:53:19
And then matches the mess that's come out of your bum? And every time you like you, you can't catch that. You cannot catch that. It's impossible. It reminded me of a time where you know where like you go round to people's houses and you people have traditions where they do things in their house and you think that's fucking weird?

00:19:53:19 – 00:20:13:15
We don't do that in my house. I always remember, and he takes me back. When I first went round to my Mrs. Family's house for a Chinese, and they ordered their Chinese, and it was just the usual run of the mill stuff. Chicken chow mein. Yeah, we get that, sweet sour chicken booze. We get that beef curry.

00:20:13:15 – 00:20:34:16
We don't get that. But I can get down. Would be curry. That's fine. And that. Oh, lovely. Absolutely lovely. And then I got to the last container and opened it. I said to my missus, the fox, that she went, it's bean sprouts. I said, well, just bean sprouts. I said, I know it's bean sprouts. Be your family. Order a whole tub of bean sprouts just on their own.

00:20:34:20 – 00:20:58:14
She's like, yeah. And I was like, that is fucking weird. I've been sprouts inside. Yeah, you do, you do. But oh, fucking tub of bean sprouts a of the bean sprouts. Is it summer? Yeah, I've got a taste there right now. Ha ha ha ha. And every time I garage toys sure enough to have a bean sprouts. What is going on?

00:20:58:14 – 00:21:18:06
This fucking weird man. That is meant that the is meant to it. It is like they each have a little bit of bean sprouts. And why does it barely taste of anything? They're just stuff to add. Add substance. I mean, I like the crunchiness of them, but do you need help? A tub of bean sprouts? I don't know, I don't think so.

00:21:18:08 – 00:21:38:17
Pods have a bean sprouts on their own. Dinner. Before we jump into the topic today, this is going to be the last pod before Christmas as a Christmas present. If you haven't already gone on to Spotify giving us a five star rating review, can you please do so? Whether you're a new listener, an old listener caught a few episodes.

00:21:38:17 – 00:22:14:20
The more ratings we get, the better the podcast does, and it makes me feel better anyway, so just go ahead and do that. So thank you very much. And now we are going to jump into today's topic of music. When you growing up. Yeah. Blitz your house a music house. Like was there always tunes playing. Yeah yeah we'd have but my dad was a bit of a audiofile in that, he always loved music, but he also spent a fortune on, like, hi fi equipment, like me speakers he bought.

00:22:14:22 – 00:22:38:09
I even to this day, still expensive. There will. I can't remember the exact brand of them, but they were like bows. They were small bow square speakers. And you had four of them stacked. And then there's, like, surround sound for the television. There was also like when when we watched the movie, like Saving Private Ryan or something, you have to switch the surround sound on, and it'd be like you were in the middle of the movie as well.

00:22:38:10 – 00:23:02:24
Oh, yeah. Yeah, he spent a lot of money. And then and then obviously he was like the first. So so younger listeners won't they may know what this is, but it was the first version of what is now what would have been an iPod. So it was a Sony Sony Walkman. And it meant that you could play cassettes as you walked around.

00:23:03:01 – 00:23:20:20
Oh shit. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. You had a cassette player when you was a kid, right? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Tape, tape. So he. But he bought the very first ever Sony Sony Walkman. It's this blue and plastic. And so we had that in the house and I would walk around with that. On playing my favorite music or whatever it might be.

00:23:20:22 – 00:23:35:03
And we would sit down and he had loads of CDs. So we would sit down. I would sit down with the tape, blank tape on a tape deck, and I'd be just picking songs that I like from all these CD's and making my own Little Mix tapes and stuff like that. I used to spin off, let's call it A.

00:23:35:04 – 00:24:06:17
You spent hours doing it, hours and hours and hours and then right on the tape deck, right, writing all the track listings. It's like, yeah, that's yeah, that's pretty cool. I was never into it. As in, no, not into as in that way there would be the God, this is so fucking old man that you remember when you would have a blank tape in your cassette player and you'd be listening to the radio, and then you play, you press play and record at the same time, then everything off the radio.

00:24:06:19 – 00:24:23:20
Yeah. Yeah. That I mean, that was that, that was the kind of, the maximum I would go it would be really annoying because he's not talking over the end of the song and we knew you like, did that on purpose so we could do that. Yeah. But I don't fucking care. Like, with your with your old man.

00:24:23:22 – 00:24:48:22
Was he into a genre of music or was it just a, he just played everything, typically, sort of grunge, rock, grunge, anything kind of. He liked a lot. So Seattle was like the hub. What? What? Your dad. Yeah, really? I would say his favorite bands growing up would have been when? When I was young enough.

00:24:48:24 – 00:25:18:08
So when I was aware of the music he was listen to, it would have been Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Pearl jam, Smashing Pumpkins. No. Fuck off. Really? Yeah. He loved, you know. So that's why it's a fucking done in that part. That's where my. So anything he listened to, I listen to. That's why I listen to you know and then I so I would, I would get into my own taste of like I went into sort of green green day and, Guns and Roses moved away from grunge, you know.

00:25:18:09 – 00:25:33:22
Yeah, yeah. My love to la, Silverchair. I love Madonna. Yeah. Also loves, R&B. So he would really. Yeah. Mary J by Blige's favorite, I think.

00:25:33:24 – 00:25:54:18
Seriously, he loves that's to this, Mary J. Blige. Female singers. Any folk female singers he loves. He loves them. I mean, my dad still swap music weekly to this day. That's amazing. The last thing we got, we're into listening both together is Wonder Horse. At the moment. We're both listen to the wonderful Seven. Yeah, I've noticed that you've been, one of the who listen at about this wicked.

00:25:54:19 – 00:26:15:07
Well, what about your out there? Let me see. She she she she helped me get into music as well. Right, right. But because she, she would buy me music, she was in she's I don't I wouldn't say she was into music. I think she, she goes about a day listening to music on a daily basis. But, but she would she bought me my first Beatles albums.

00:26:15:09 – 00:26:30:18
Oh. Nice. Yeah. It was a sort of early Beatles which had some German stuff on there, which they didn't have, you know, but they recorded in German. They, they recorded English and they had German as well. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. They based out, I think they were based in Hamburg or somewhere like that. And they. Yeah.

00:26:30:18 – 00:26:49:14
Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. Recorded some of their songs in, in German. You can still go on YouTube. It's sort of. So, probably never seen, some of the, so yeah, she, she bought with that. She bought me a Bjork album when I was younger and stuff. So, yeah, I used to listen to all of that.

00:26:49:14 – 00:27:18:18
My brothers would buy music for me for Christmas, so. Yeah, I've always, always got my, my mum. So, again, my mum wasn't into music that much, I'd say. But what she was always playing, what I can remember, Fleetwood Mac, which is fucking top tier. Yeah, absolute top tier. What's your favorite Fleetwood Mac? Hum. I would say rumors.

00:27:18:18 – 00:27:41:12
So yeah, I probably, I'd probably say rumors because I've. And I've actually gone to see Fleetwood back the best tribute act. And they were doing rumors. Yeah. Fucking brilliant. I bet they sounded almost identical. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, a lot of people give tribute acts a lot of shit they shouldn't. But it sounds exactly the same.

00:27:41:16 – 00:28:04:23
You. Most people won't get to see Fleetwood Mac play everybody. So, you know, I think if we haven't spoken about this, but they have a festival right where it's all it is, the entire festival is tribute acts and oh my God. So it ends up with the best festival you could ever imagine because they've got tribute acts of the best bands.

00:28:04:23 – 00:28:32:02
So there's obviously there's one that's about like The Cure, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac. I don't know. The actual names of the bands currently is Oasis, blur, fucking all of the like the Biggest Dream, Elton John, all the like the biggest festival you could ever imagine. It's just not them. But it sounds exactly like them in the UK. Yeah, I'll find out what it is because I always like to that I was genuinely thinking that would be a laugh.

00:28:32:04 – 00:28:47:20
We'd go there, you'd have a massive singalong and you know, you just take enough drugs to not know that they're not there, they're not real. But really, then you don't mean the best. I just think if you if you just take is snob in a way, I just I mean, we're just gonna have a laugh and I just enjoy it.

00:28:47:21 – 00:29:05:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going around going. Yeah. I went to see Oasis at the weekend. I went to an Oasis and they sounded exactly the same and I'm so far away it might as well have been them. He probably sounds better than Liam does. Probably. Yeah, probably. I'll be. I'll be up for that room. I always remember it for my mum.

00:29:05:05 – 00:29:46:18
She even had. She loved this, a so much. And it was obviously all the time and that she fancied him, but she had all these tapes. She even had his, VHS performances. The one and only Mick Hucknall. Simply Red, by my love, simply Red eye. For some reason I was scrolling through something the other day, and there was an old bit of footage where simply Red were playing, and it was more of a stripped back kind of strings and classical, but it was more focused on Mick Hucknall, his voice like in the, in a theater or something.

00:29:46:20 – 00:30:09:03
It was fucking insane. Yeah. He's he's vocals were just they were fabulous. Honestly. So good. You a bit of a Hucknall. Oh would. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's cracking. He was a bit of a go back in the day as well. So low is about me. It's mental in it. You just think like you look at him and he's not like he's a bit of an odd looking bloke.

00:30:09:03 – 00:30:30:00
And he really, well, a long, red, curly hair. He's got, a ruby in his front teeth. And if you just went Mick Hucknall, I see sounds. He looks like that. Anthony. Then I know what that means. Right. But you know what it means. That's what he looks like, that noise. But, you know, you're you're simply red. Were massive.

00:30:30:02 – 00:30:53:19
Massive. Yeah. They've got a couple of. Okay. Look up. Yeah. There you go. Couple I'll give you that. Yeah. They have got a couple. They have. Well is that something happened at the fairground? No. Oh, coming home to you. Even if I know I can make it. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. Day to be fair. All day for that one.

00:30:53:19 – 00:31:23:11
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. I've got some bangers. Yeah. My old man he used to listen to. I don't know what kind of music it was, but one of his favorite artists is Kid Creole on the coconuts. And they used to wear zoot suits. And I don't know what fucking like funk. So maybe that. And so when I was growing up and I'd go around to my dad's house, he would be playing that.

00:31:23:13 – 00:31:46:04
And it was more of these bands, the funk soul bands that he would listen to. But again, he wasn't really, like massively into music. My mum always says that the first song that I ever danced to or was listening to was Bob Marley. I used to play in the house quite a lot. Yeah, there is a certain song, I can't remember what it is now.

00:31:46:06 – 00:32:07:15
So there is, there is all this also kind of, some reggae being played in the house, but because I was young, I don't really remember that. And then my dad's other favorite band, you know, who is Petro? Pet Shop Boys. So I always used to love for you because if how much you liked Pet Shop Boys?

00:32:07:17 – 00:32:36:09
Yeah. It was. I always found it really funny because typically I think about you and I think of Oasis. I think of blur, and I think of, like, indie pop. Yeah. That's of, like, a block party. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo and. All right. And that's going out. And you know in the mid 2000 and you know the music we'd listen to and just get off on, that's the gate of itit's too and got down borderline and it was all strokes.

00:32:36:09 – 00:33:01:03
It was. Yeah, it was the Smiths. It was just great indie singalong stuff. And the hours and hours we'd spend in the borderline just fucking up in the best time, singing our hearts off, singing our hearts out. It it was, it was magical. And I don't think we realized how good it was at the time. So you saying that now and saying the word borderline, I am getting.

00:33:01:05 – 00:33:29:16
I'm sorry. That was. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I also sad like the that's gone and like what. Think about how many nights would you spent in the book. Like every Saturday. It felt like every Saturday for about four years. Yeah. I'm borderline there. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And and we would go there and we'd spend three hours, four hours there till the lights came on and you would in the room, the club would still be rammed when the lights went on.

00:33:29:16 – 00:33:54:21
That's how much of a good time everyone was having. It was wicked. Oh, there's a picture I've got where? I think I was with our mate Tim and my brother Ryan, and we were in there and I'm singing at the top of my lungs with my eyes closed. Where do you do that now? Where does that happen? I don't know, I think that, like, there are no clubs in Milton Keynes, people or no young people aren't going clubbing.

00:33:54:21 – 00:34:18:00
Also, no there's not. And even when I was growing up, that indie scene, there was a bar called Bar Centro. And on a Thursday night for two hours they would play Oasis. And that was my that was your only fix to go and see an indie band in Milton Keynes, where you can have alcohol and be roommates on a Thursday night for two hours.

00:34:18:02 – 00:34:33:17
So there was never really that kind of vibe in Milton Keynes. And then when I came down to London and then borderline and other bars that we went to, it was like, fuck, you know, it's like these places are playing all of our music all the time. Why are we talking about it? I was going off on a tangent.

00:34:33:17 – 00:34:54:03
I was about to say something else. Pet Shop Boys, right? Yes. Rick, I really want to talk about the Petrol Boys. So I always appreciate, like. But the petrol was a decent. Yeah, but it's not. It's not my cup of tea. Really? And you was always banging on about a Pet shop boys you love. Not always find it hilarious that you just.

00:34:54:05 – 00:35:14:17
And pet Pet Shop Boys order it. And then I saw them live in Primavera last year. One of the best gigs I've ever been to in my life. They were so good they got here, boy. But the visual aspect of it was incredible. Like the backdrop, what they'd done there, their look, the shit they wearing, some match it and.

00:35:14:17 – 00:35:34:09
But this is so good. Oh. What's his name again? I can't remember the lead singer. Yeah. Tennant something someone said. Yes. They've the.

00:35:34:11 – 00:35:52:08
No. Neil Tennant. Nelson. Yeah, I know that guy. His voice is impeccable. It's exactly the same when they. When it was, they could have been playing it off a CD. It was that good. It was. It was unreal. And was day two of festival. My brother wasn't really feeling it. My wife never listened, said Pet Shop Boys.

00:35:52:08 – 00:36:11:05
And I was like, I'm going to listen to this for Ricky because if he was here, they'd be listen to it and I would love to move in. I knew every words. Must every song was having 2000 people buzzing. It was great quality, mate. Yeah. Shop boys, I've never put Pet Shop Boys on to listen to it. I wouldn't, but for that, when they come on in the playlist.

00:36:11:07 – 00:36:31:03
Yeah, he's one of those smile on my face think me old man, he loves them day. And yeah, absolutely love them. To go back on what you're saying with your influences and your brothers. When I was growing up, my sister, she listened to R&B and swing and shit like that, and I was just like, this is fucking guff.

00:36:31:08 – 00:36:50:21
I'm not listen to this stuff. And then my cousin. So when I grew up, I was really close to my cousins and they listened to hip hop, but it wasn't like mainstream hip hop. It was like underground. But I would never heard of any of the bands this Alec, Alec and Ryan. Yeah, I went into that and I didn't.

00:36:51:01 – 00:37:12:01
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So so I never really kind of was influenced by them either. And obviously like you know, it's just that their cousin come around after you listen to what he says and these fucking basic bitch music, guy around that, that probably be their stuff. And I'll be like, I literally have no idea what this is a what's going on.

00:37:12:01 – 00:37:34:12
Come on. Like, no, not you never know. No. They knew that as well. Yeah. So like with your brothers that you're quite I mentioned it previously on the podcast that always feels that there's like a bit of a, a competitive edge of new music. Like, you are this band, though. Oh. Competitive edge. Yeah. Like I introduce it to this.

00:37:34:14 – 00:37:57:05
No, I said I saw the xx first and I did and I said that, which I, which I always quite liked, it was quite a thing of like digging each other out and then finding the next band, and then someone would find a band by everyone tickets, and then you'd all go to it, and then you'd argue about who you saw first, but then I maybe I can't.

00:37:57:06 – 00:38:12:10
I know what you're talking about. There is an unwritten competitive. I mean, do you have it as well? Ring? Oh, I will say to you, listen to this band and you just won't listen to him like I've told you about. We spoke about one day. I was about 50 times. And you've just not bothered. Yeah, yeah. Why do you do that?

00:38:12:12 – 00:38:34:08
I don't know, I actually have that written in the, in the running order for this. I don't know why. Like, it's about new music, new films, new TV shows where it's so kind of everyone is talking about it. Everyone is talking about Breaking Bad, Breaking Bad, everything. But obviously, you know, and it goes on and on.

00:38:34:08 – 00:38:52:17
And then people say, have you seen? I'm like, no. And it drives me further away when, you know, you may be looking about like, no, I know, and it's not because I want to be contrary or I want to be out on my own, a lone wolf or whatever. I just it just puts me off when everyone is talking about it.

00:38:52:21 – 00:39:15:16
So I want to get round to it in my own time. Not when everyone is dragging me along to listen and to see it. But that isn't about music. That's how you as a person, isn't it? And I get it, I know that I get it as well. There's an element of of it becoming. If everyone's listened to the same album, it feels like a little bit cheap that you haven't discovered it yourself and you just going along with the ride.

00:39:15:18 – 00:39:33:15
Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there are some albums that are so good you can't that they don't allow you to do it like that. Libertines that the Libertines, the Fontaines DC album was number one for everybody. I if you listen to it. But there's a couple of I think I did.

00:39:33:15 – 00:39:59:16
Yeah. You sent it to me. Yeah. And all of us. That might be one of the best songs of the decade. I remember you sent it to me, and I listened to the first song and I was like, yeah, that's pretty good. The second song was a bit weird, and I was like, okay, that's I'm going to hate your business if it's moment that one night I listened to that one first and then it went on to another song and I was like, this is, this is all right.

00:39:59:16 – 00:40:07:10
I suppose it is in that indie kind of sphere. Then the next one was really weird.

00:40:07:12 – 00:40:27:10
Writing almost the last 30 years of music, of indie music. It's just. And then and then and then the next one. I was like, that doesn't even sound like them, that this sounds totally different. What had done is I played a single and then Spotify was recommend to me songs like them, so I wasn't even listening to them and I was like, but it's not.

00:40:27:14 – 00:40:55:05
It's funny you say that because I didn't realize that we used what you was getting at, because it makes sense when you listen to their album. It is eclectic. It will, it doesn't. You know, some albums have a style and it all knits together quite neatly, and it all sounds like it's from the same wheelhouse. The Libertines, the fuck, Fontaines DC album moves around the lot, and it sounds like a lot like in one song.

00:40:55:05 – 00:41:20:00
It'll sound like The Smiths. Then it might sound like a bit like Bloc Party, or then it sounds like Fontaines DC and it just moves around. And what's amazing about them is they've released the album, they've released five albums since 2019, and they all hail. Really? Yeah. This is the fifth album. Yeah. And they all sound different. You can tell it's them, but they move on.

00:41:20:02 – 00:41:41:11
They just they don't stand still. And that's what's interesting about them. And they love the live albums, no doubt that people don't rate, but it's they're moving forward. It's not Radiohead as I like it. You know they are we going to talk about our favorite bands. Yeah. Well yeah. This is where I'm, I'm no I'm literally steering the ship back to our favorite bands.

00:41:41:13 – 00:42:12:07
Like in your show you're most kind of like for me, my most formative music era was teens and obviously early 20s. And I could go on and I could speak about. So the the first single I ever bought was by a band called erasure. Yeah. And the song was always, and I don't know how I quite like that sort of I homo.

00:42:12:09 – 00:42:33:23
Yeah, I know, I know, I us. So it's not to say homo music. I mean like homo centric is like, is that an offensive time? I can't remember what I'm saying is it's aimed at the gay community. Like, yeah, it was kind of like gay pride, deep pride, music and and yeah, Shop Boys definitely. No, no, no, you were a nail on the head, mate.

00:42:34:00 – 00:42:48:15
I don't know, I don't know, but I yeah, I just liked it. That was the first first single. But if you if you but if you, if you listen to your dad's music it would have been formative years. Yes. All of my music comes from that. From listening to what my dad listen to. Yeah. Everyone's like, I think.

00:42:48:20 – 00:43:08:01
I don't think my dad would have been into that fight so. Well, not Pet Shop Boys. Oh, shit. Yeah. No you're right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay I reckon. Oh yeah. Yeah probably. Yeah for sure. Yeah I think before about that. Really. Well you know what would think to connect them like that until I've been talking about it. This is why I'm so obsessed.

00:43:08:01 – 00:43:29:01
With what. Obsessed with. But I really enjoyed Cassie's Dad album because it sounds like it's from the 80s, but it with modern hip hop. That's what's so fascinating about the album. It's the production. Do you know? Did you ever listen to it? No. It's that the guy that wears the mask. Okay. But not that. That not the dead guy.

00:43:29:01 – 00:43:49:01
That was the mask. The dead guy that wears a mask. Oh, no. No, and MF doom. Yeah, it is different. Different vibe, a different, different mask. This is English that he's he's from London. Is Cassie's that you know. Yeah. Yeah I day but he's the production of that album is what's special about it rather than his abilities as an MC.

00:43:49:01 – 00:44:08:08
Although he has a unique style, his production is sounds like growing up. When I grew up and I was watching films from the 80s, and he's clearly about my age. Yeah, because of his influences, the films from the 80s. And like, your dad listened to Pet Shop Boys and you like in erasure, probably because of that. It. Yeah.

00:44:08:10 – 00:44:39:15
Yeah, it feeds into, It feeds into what? What we were, what we were back then, and it's like a comfort. So when I put on Cassie's dead, I heard I. It made me feel like I was ten again watching RoboCop. Yeah, yeah. Mate, that's a so interesting. I never thought about it in that way. And with with erasure and that I think that, that was around 94.

00:44:39:17 – 00:45:09:22
So that was when I kind of first had that discovery of music, the way it made me feel, actually using my personal allowance, my newspaper around money and going to buy something for myself, music. And then obviously Oasis came on the scene. And in every secondary school it was just everyone was talking about Oasis. Everyone had polka jackets, everyone was growing their.

00:45:09:24 – 00:45:38:20
It was like I'd never seen anything catch fire so quickly and kind of be on mainstream TV and pop culture, all of that stuff. But I'm going to be honest with you, er, Oasis definitely, definitely, maybe was the first album I ever bought. I hadn't really listened to it. Just everyone at school was talking about it really. So I thought I should probably buy this because everyone else is doing it.

00:45:38:21 – 00:45:59:15
But Ricky, unless you live in listen to the radio, how else are you going to hear it other than buying the record? Yeah, until I listened to, I'd heard bits and pieces, but it was just everyone was. Everyone was like the buzz feverish on it. And I was like, well, I have to every able to buy it. It's about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:59:16 – 00:46:18:19
So that was me. That was my first album that I bought. And then after that it was fucking gay. Maybe it's a bit. So my dad bought it, but that put it on. And obviously what's the story. And we would be playing it. You had a CD player in the car as well. Obviously. Like I said, you always had to have the latest first CD Walkman had that as well.

00:46:18:21 – 00:46:43:17
Nice. I remember being like, I don't know, 14, 15 driving. We went on holiday to havia near Alicante. Yeah. Yeah. And drive from Alicante airport to Harvey was about an hour and a half. So I would just sit there with Nirvana's Nevermind on. I'm just looking out the window, my dad's fucking pocket CD player and the headphones just listened to nevermind.

00:46:43:19 – 00:47:14:00
Back to front. It's fucking. That was a great. That's, Yeah, that sounds very much. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. But we've had with Nirvana and that more heavy music. So when I was I'm going to like, I think it's safe to assume for, for both of us, mainly, you know, mainly me, but Radiohead, blur, pulp, charlatans, all that noise in these music, that's what I was brought up on.

00:47:14:00 – 00:47:39:01
And that's what I listen to. That's what I love. That's what I listen to. Now that that is totally me. But then there's a little bit of me that went a bit, went a little bit sideways in my maybe early 20s, 19, around the era, and my mates didn't really get it. Limp Bizkit yeah. Papa. Papa roach. Yeah.

00:47:39:03 – 00:47:47:08
Put that into pieces. I actually I last resort to the suffocation.

00:47:47:10 – 00:48:12:06
I was, I bought the album to Rick, link Linkin Park, but that's when I put my thoughts. Came on the scene crawling about some these moves. They will not. He, It was my emo era. That was. That was my, like, kind of. I don't know when I recall. Yeah, yeah. Linkin Park are probably my dad's top five bands.

00:48:12:06 – 00:48:33:15
He loves. Loves really always. Always. I had, Hybrid Theory. They bought. I had two albums. I never knew this. I know this is amazing to you about it. He said, I will tell you, he's, I never really like Linkin Park, to be honest. I like that. I got in, you know, I watched him on TV, but, I never saw.

00:48:33:15 – 00:48:55:23
I also remember I also remember buying, because of that era and that style. Lost profits. Probably shouldn't, admit that now that back then. Oh, no, I didn't realize I, I maybe not. Yeah, like a bad one. Like the worst. Yeah, yeah. Like king like up there. Top tier. You know, you can't. That is the worst of all.

00:48:55:23 – 00:49:20:17
The 90s. Yeah. I couldn't tell you a single Lost Profits fan. I wasn't into that music. Yeah. It was. It is sort of emo rock, though. We went I really, you see. Okay. That's that's that's, I'd never listen to that. Lost profits, My Chemical Romance bullet, but no, I can't remember. All the other ones were bullet for my Valentine or something or something like,

00:49:20:19 – 00:49:41:00
Yeah. Yeah. No, that was a guy that, like, nu metal, nu metal, nu metal. I don't really I don't know enough to probably sound like a fucking old man. I don't know enough about that. That. No, no, that's fine. I was by that point, I was into it. I was well into my hip hop. So. And then when I.

00:49:41:02 – 00:50:07:13
So I had that little, era there and then when I went to college is when I met people that were into music, that had long hair and band t shirts and chains and baggy jeans. Now, from where I'm from and the lads I was hanging around with, that was that was not us. And this is where I first kind of.

00:50:07:13 – 00:50:19:21
So what age, what I must have been early. Like I must have been 20, 20 years old. And that is when I discovered bands like The Smiths.

00:50:19:23 – 00:50:43:11
The Cure and even The Libertines. That is when I wasn't listening to those that type of music, the Strokes, even. And that's where I kind of had that. I was going in a different route, what my mates were, what would open that realization? It was still Oasis and Blur and it was still that kind of music.

00:50:43:11 – 00:51:08:06
But it was that discovery, that self-discovery of music. And when did you, Because I know that you love hip hop. Yeah. And would you say it's the main thing that you listen to? For a long time, I've kind of moved away into more to just towards bands now. When did you start with and how did you get into hip hop?

00:51:08:08 – 00:51:31:24
So I was it started with Eminem. I was, I was I remember when I first heard, hi, my name is Samia. Yeah. What you mean so. Well, I was, I was working in my first job, my warehouse. But you remember when you first heard that song and I heard it playing on the radio, and. And I was like, what other.

00:51:32:01 – 00:52:02:16
What was that he saying about Nine Inch Nails? His eyelids. Well, what was it? What's he saying, Ricky? Exactly the same. When, when I was sitting, I was, I was, I was doing voluntary work for, I was volunteering for a charity at the time called exposure. I mentioned a couple of times Eve media used to write articles and do bits and pieces for them, and I was working on an article and they had we was at the radio on radio one and do do do do do you know what that was?

00:52:02:16 – 00:52:26:07
That's it. Hi. My name is, my name is, my name is. And you're like, what is this? This is weird. And then he starts rapping and talking. You know, it was mad shit that he talks about. Yeah. And you're like, that is fucking mad. You know, I did the minute I left the office on my way, I went straight to price and I bought the same CD, LP.

00:52:26:07 – 00:52:47:20
No, I read a same diary the same day. That's cool. Well, because I was like, why is that? I mean, I know what hip hop is. I know what rap is, and it's not something that's ever interested me, really. I never listen to rap music or hip hop. And then that came on and I was like, I have to hear what it is.

00:52:47:22 – 00:53:07:19
So I went and bought the album and I put it into my Sony Discman, and it was one of the ones where it's hold it up, right? Otherwise it's shit. I remember that's fucking yeah, it's about £50 from Argos and you could just walk around of it. It was a commitment to be to music, but then we had to hold it.

00:53:07:19 – 00:53:43:14
So it was vertical sort of CD didn't skip, no tongue. And listening to the the same shade. Yup. And when I got to my front door, it hadn't finished. So I carried on walking and I kind of wait till the album finished. And to say my mind was blown. It would be an understatement. It changed everything. And now people listen to the people that are listening to this who didn't or have never listened to Eminem or would look at him now and what he is now and think, that shit's corny.

00:53:43:16 – 00:54:04:01
It wasn't then. It was. The first two albums were not corny at all. They were great, they were aggressive, and they were violent, and they were saying things that no one said at the time. Very, you know, it would be him. I don't I don't know enough about that era of hip hop to be completely sure what I'm saying, but I know Eminem and what I like went on to.

00:54:04:01 – 00:54:26:05
He's like DMX, I went to Eminem, went to Dres, DMX, that was The Root. But DMX and Eminem were rapping about mental stuff. Yeah. It was just so refreshing to me because nothing, I hadn't heard anything like it and it just couldn't stop listening the album, I would, I would listen, I would rap it in my sleep.

00:54:26:05 – 00:54:48:22
I would dream about this music or dream about Eminem's first album, and I couldn't get his rapping out of my head. So adapted, feverish dreams of him in my brain. I was so invested in that. For those folks, how magic is that? They like that. You hear like a single on the radio. Yeah, just these tones as well.

00:54:48:22 – 00:55:08:16
But I walked in on the wind and it comes down to your ears and then you're just fucking. What is that? Dumbstruck. What is that? I need that, where do I get it? And then you've gone to a store to buy it and then listen to All the Way home. And you, even though you've made it to your house, hasn't.

00:55:08:21 – 00:55:31:09
You gotta keep going. And most important thing is, I had the listen this album and you mentioned I'm like, well, and why am I here then? I'm 17, maybe 17 years old and he's rapping about fuckin. He's rapping about drugs and mushroom parties, is rapping about killing his wife and taking her to the sea with his kid in tow.

00:55:31:11 – 00:55:52:20
That's men or stuff. Yeah, that that is. Yeah, that is fuckin madness. Madness. This is a commercial mainstream album released by Doctor Dres label, and it's getting radio airplay. And the stuff on this album is crazy. It wouldn't happen now. It probably been canceled. It would probably be canceled in this modern era, like in, if he's if he just came out, it wouldn't be allowed.

00:55:52:22 – 00:56:13:12
I don't want to sound like a, like a again. Like a, like an ode that what you know what I am. But it feels like it's a shame that looking back of our chat and the memories and like you've just said that going to a record store and buying this MCD and then playing it like you wouldn't really get that anymore.

00:56:13:12 – 00:56:34:12
I know lots of bands will release 5 or 6 singles and then eight months down the line, release the album. So, you know, singles is a different mechanic now to sharing music? Yeah. Unless you're massive and you can just drop an album without even thinking about it, but it has changed massively. But back in back when we were younger, before Spotify was even a thing.

00:56:34:14 – 00:56:54:24
And I'm glad it's a thing because, yeah, incredible piece of incredible Spotify. It's not I'm, I'm, I'm happy to pay the money each month. Yes I am. Yeah, yeah. But but but then it was like you had to make an investment and a commitment in to someone's work. Yeah. And it didn't always work out like I it.

00:56:54:24 – 00:57:14:11
Would you buy it and you go, I don't like this album. And let's just I'll just pay for expensive music benefits. Who in quid for that or that. Like it. Which is why word of mouth was so important and and wanting to fit in was so important because you gave albums time. Now, if you have lives and you just don't just click to the next thing.

00:57:14:13 – 00:57:38:19
Whereas yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is why I love the fact that my dad had this library of CDs, because I just had all of these tastes that tap into rather than me. I used to, I used to love opening my seat, like when I'd buy the CD, opening the cover, and then sliding the little book out and you'd see all the artwork, and, he produced it and where they recorded it and the different, like, stories that would be behind it.

00:57:38:19 – 00:57:57:02
And you'd be, oh, this is fucking quality, man. Oh, they recorded him. Why? He was, man, that's quality. Like all this other weird stuff that be going on. And you just paint this picture in your mind of this band that you're listening to and stuff. Did you feel like it was more of,

00:57:57:04 – 00:58:24:08
I don't know what. Like, you belong to something more like if you had the album, you read the the the record notes in the book and you go the now it just kind of you flit in and out of fads and and songs and specific bands. But back then, because you had an album, it was physical and, you know, you had to listen to it start to finish as the, as the artist intended.

00:58:24:10 – 00:58:43:11
It just felt like you, you had to work more and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you belonged to that band more so than now. Exactly. Exactly that. And, there was a purpose to the that art, you know what I mean? And maybe it's because I was so invested in that you need to listen to it from start to finish in this way.

00:58:43:11 – 00:59:00:03
And you need to know this from the last album of how it then got to this album and how the stories kind of, reach from that album to this album, or there a break up in that, you know, there was a lot of stuff that you needed to, to know, to really feel and to be involved with it.

00:59:00:09 – 00:59:04:02
But then also, I kind of.

00:59:04:04 – 00:59:29:24
I don't know whether I got is there like a music scene where people are dressing in a certain way because of different bands or a genre of music? Like I always knew when I went out and I had my parka jacket on, the little mod patch, I had this, that and the other, and then I'd see someone walk across the road and they had a Fred Perry and brogues on, and I'd kind of give that no and actually give them an actual nod.

00:59:29:24 – 00:59:48:07
But I knew it was like, that's that's one of my lot. That's my kind of people. And even if you were a goth, if you were fucking were a punk, if you were emo, I don't really see any of that stuff anymore. Or maybe because, because I'm old and I would look out for it. Yeah, I didn't, I mean, yeah, exactly.

00:59:48:07 – 01:00:09:00
I think is of your time and they, there will be subcultures musically that exist, but it doesn't belong to us. It belongs to this generation and the the gatekeeper, don't you? From the old folks. My dad was never interested in what, what? You know, borderline when, you know, when I was my 20s. It's just like my dad. My dad did all that as well.

01:00:09:00 – 01:00:27:20
He saw the Beatles. He saw the stones play. There's a place Called the Rain. The rainbow, I think in, Finsbury Park. He's the love. Small faces. Him and his mate Bill would travel and watch Small Faces all over UK. Literally. He probably seen them. Seen him in at 20 gigs of Small, Small Faces. Yeah.

01:00:27:20 – 01:00:53:05
He has a I've. I've tried to him about that. Yeah. That's cool. Before we jump onto the next bit I have to have your bands that you feel are a guilty pleasure or type of music. And why do you have a little thing? I will talk about mine. And I used to love and my mates were like this as well.

01:00:53:07 – 01:01:16:01
I still have like house music, dance music. So do you ever remember Ministry of Sound? The animals? Yeah, you just have them. I just used to buy them. Listen to them mix by Pete Tong and Boy George or something like that. And I fucking. I'd love it. Trance music, love it back then and that we're going to see Pete Tong.

01:01:16:03 – 01:01:34:16
Bring a mate. That would be quality. That would be. Where is it? I can't say, and there's a reason why I can't say. I'll tell you after. Okay. Well, okay. Yeah it hasn't. It's not. Nothing's confirmed with it yet. But I know somebody who knows somebody. Right. Yeah I, I definitely do that if it comes off. What they're planning is, is quality.

01:01:34:16 – 01:01:58:20
So, Yeah. All right. If you're in any way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll know you as well. He knows who you are. Yes. So what would you say? So. Yeah. So yeah, that was my guilty pleasure. And I would have so like, you know, when you have played this and you're playing your music and then all of a sudden fucking a remix would come out from some house DJ or whatever, and then all eyes just kind of go to you and make you see your music.

01:01:58:20 – 01:02:17:10
And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I love it, I love it. I don't go searching for it now. But back then that was my kind of guilty pleasure of what I would listen to. And if any of those old house tunes, trance tunes come on, they still on my playlist. Absolutely love them, but none of my mates listen to any of that stuff.

01:02:17:10 – 01:02:45:18
None. Yeah, trance is probably the worst music I, I couldn't like trance like happy hardcore and all that stuff. No, not quite happy. Ha! There was a stage when I was at school where we would go to the market and Milton Keynes, and we'd use our money to spend to buy tapes of happy hardcore, and it'd be like a VHS case, and you opened it up and, you know, free tapes on the left side and free tapes on the right side.

01:02:45:20 – 01:02:55:18
And it's like three hours of happy hardcore music fucking. I hated it, but everyone else is buying it. So I brought it to.

01:02:55:20 – 01:03:16:24
Yeah. My missus is heavily she likes house music, so it's sort of chilled house music. And so I've kind of absorbed some of that and listened to a lot more. And I used to, I don't have any, camouflage and, Yeah, but we did. You know that song that you did with Jake Bugg?

01:03:17:05 – 01:03:34:18
They did? No. You did. You do know it. You will have heard. It's so good. Anyway, so I kind of I appreciate that a lot more than I did. I was never really into house music, but since meeting my Mrs.. And, you know, the things, like most people with house music and clubbing, it was like drug culture, right?

01:03:34:18 – 01:03:55:21
It was ecstasy. Yeah, it was scary. And. And you got out dancing. But but my time when I was heavily into rap, it was. It was us at the borderline. Listen to indie music rather. Yeah. So, I never really got into that. But in terms of guilty pleasures, yeah, I've got some more obvious ones and Ministry of Sound, for fuck's sake.

01:03:56:01 – 01:04:18:24
Because that must be. There must be more than that. You got to be a little bit more honest. I've got I'm trying to think I got on. I've got Bon Jovi. I fucking hate Bon Jovi. My fucking, Absolutely, I hate him, I hate meatloaf, and I hate Bruce Springsteen. All of them. I don't like pretending.

01:04:19:02 – 01:04:38:07
I never understood Bruce Springsteen as well. I don't, I don't get it is taught to me so ordinary. So it's the same reason, like my missus loves Sam Fender. Sam Fender sounds like Bruce Springsteen's Me. It's just ordinary, but people do love them. Bon Jovi however, I understand. I understand why you hate them and understand why no one likes them.

01:04:38:10 – 01:05:00:22
I mean, loads of people like them, but no one would admit to it. Yeah, but again, it's just when I was a kid, I bought the Bon Jovi album. What was it called? It just reminds me of, like, being drunk in a Yates's and everyone screaming, livin on a prayer. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that was on the album that I'm trying to find now.

01:05:00:24 – 01:05:25:16
No, I get it. It's shit. It's terrible. You can't tell me. Listening to Dry County, the you're not and you're on your own in the car, that you're not saying the top of your lungs right now. Here you are. But it's. And, keep the faith. Keep the faith, keep the faith. No, no, I am. That's surprised me.

01:05:25:21 – 01:05:40:19
Yeah, well, look, it is a guilty pleasure, I admit it. I don't understand it. I don't I wouldn't tell this if I was trying to impress somebody. I wouldn't tell them. I actually, every now and then stick on Bon Jovi when I'm driving. Have you heard of a band called Bon Jovi? Bloody good. I say Pat Benatar.

01:05:40:19 – 01:06:07:07
I don't know if that's if Pat Benatar is is considered a guilty pleasure is a pop in the 80s, I you would have maybe heard that word once or twice in my life, but no idea of. And it's kind of like mainstream pop from the 80s. It's not like Fleetwood Mac, where it's actually quite good. Pat Benatar was like, yeah, I don't know.

01:06:07:08 – 01:06:30:02
Yeah. I'm not, I'm pretty, I'm pretty. What do you what would you say? I kind of like if something is cheesy, I tend to not like, you know, you mentioned Spotify Wrapped. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah. I sometimes want to listen to old school Eminem, but I don't want Eminem to appear on my Spotify rap, so I just don't listen.

01:06:30:04 – 01:06:55:09
Are you kidding me? No, that's. No, that's sad. That is Eminem. It's just like his music. It's so shit now and it's a I disagree. I think it's brilliant. I still think he's a he's the best. I'm listening since modern day Eminem is the thing and I know that's pathetic Rick I know that's pathetic, but I'm ready to admit it.

01:06:55:11 – 01:07:17:24
I won't listen to him. And then, the third, the third or might the third single, my most listened to single on my Spotify, it was it was a song called Dare from the Transformers soundtrack. So I thought, okay, yeah. I thought, you know what? I was just I was as surprised as other people listening. That's like Transformers on this.

01:07:17:24 – 01:07:44:07
What about. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. That's that's. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah. Can I just play it because people won't know what. Yeah. Go on then.

01:07:44:09 – 01:07:51:14
Sometimes when you watch at home and chatter. So it just.

01:07:51:16 – 01:08:28:16
You wonder how you keep going away. Think of all the things that really matter in the changes you do, the fire in your heart is going. You can fly if you try to leave. In the past, behind in the past, behind me. I write that review I yeah, seriously, I'm listening to that. And that's taking me back to being eight, nine years old watching Transformers the movie.

01:08:28:18 – 01:08:50:14
Listen to that. I just that's just one of the bangers on there make. There's fucking loader bangers on there low. So so good, so good. Before we jump into argon. So I'll just sound like what, what do you. Cause you mentioned on the random noise you about Spotify wrapped. Yeah. I was just going to say I think it's a bit over.

01:08:50:14 – 01:09:18:09
Right. Well, for me, it's over right there every year, I think. I think, yeah, for me it's a bit over. Right? It's because it's always going to be the same. At first it was like, oh, this is interesting that I've listened to this bands that many times or that podcast that many times, and but the more I kind of think about, it's always like literally the last three years have been the same five bands, but in a different order really.

01:09:18:15 – 01:09:35:22
And the podcast that I do sometimes, like, I fall in love with a podcast and I will fucking rent it for three months, and then I'm like, you know what? This is actually not that great. And I I've made a mistake and I'll burn it off. And then Spotify Rap comes out. Oh, your favorite podcast is fuck sake.

01:09:35:22 – 01:09:57:15
No, it, I fucking like, it's making me look like a dickhead. Prov so that's it. It does make you like a ticket. And it runs from like February to November as well as like three months where they're not tracking what you're listening to with. Yeah, yeah, that is weird. That's why fucking it probably fucked me up. Yeah.

01:09:57:17 – 01:10:17:15
Started like I was listening. I probably is in there in terms of how much I've listened to this year, but unknown T is like a drill rapper from Palmerton in London. I've heard you mention it, but I have no idea. Album. So good. Such a good album. Like. And it's my second best, second most played album this year.

01:10:17:17 – 01:10:41:05
Rise Above Hate. It's good. But I listen to it in like three months and I kind of dip into it every now and then since. But it's only so long you can listen to someone talking about and man up. Before we move on. But then like six months later, he comes out and he's still there, which I'm fine with, but,

01:10:41:07 – 01:10:56:08
Yeah, it's just what it is. So it was. It used to be really good. You just get a lot more information and a lot more. But is they? Since maybe it's because it's just so big now that they just pulled it down, but it's less. Yeah. It's not that. Yeah, but what it does is it. Gamify your. You're listening.

01:10:56:09 – 01:11:20:21
That's what it is. Why they do it is and everyone's followed them everywhere. Exactly. And a lot of other people are doing it now. Like even Strava will come out and say how many, how many walks you did? How many this you did. I know that which is good, which is nice. Yeah. And I yeah, exactly.

01:11:20:23 – 01:11:41:20
Sorry. Opening doors, asking for lifts and stuff, but I'm not going around, Just looking. What's happening? Very professional, is it? So, yeah, it's, it's a it's a good thing with strawberry in it because it makes you make it game it, like I said, it gamify your exercise. But with this Spotify, it's just to keep you on platform so you don't swap to Apple Music because you'll lose rats and you'll lose all your data and stuff.

01:11:41:20 – 01:12:05:06
It just keeps you. That's it. I've seen a lot of the Apple Boys kicking off because they because they, they don't get it right. Yeah. Maybe it's been years that surely they would have fucking cotton done by now. Come on. It's such a massive organization. It's just not worth their time. So yeah, maybe, all the Apple Music dorks like, are you, like, otherwise available guys?

01:12:05:06 – 01:12:25:05
Nothing. You can use Apple Music instead. You want Spotify so great. Yeah. It's just. And this is why we'll never lose. Then you could you could come and sponsor us. It's know. But this is why it will never lose me. It will never lose. It's like in the same way that it will never not be the most. The number one it's ingrained in is a habitual fair.

01:12:25:05 – 01:12:45:05
People. Yeah. Getting people to change their habits is almost impossible. Yeah, it's very hard. So what, you mean so I'm not going to give up like Elon Musk has done his best to fuck that platform. But people still uses that is that I mean that is a good point. He has fucked that platform completely and everyone still goes over there.

01:12:45:07 – 01:13:18:23
Right? We're going to be jumping into dilemmas and something only you know. The dilemma is called forbidden love. And there's something only you know is called the list. The topic for next week is do gooders or what they're also known, or they call themselves as auditors. So these people that film police stations to get a reaction, they want the police officers to come out saying, those guys and fucking assholes, absolute assholes.

01:13:19:03 – 01:13:41:22
And then so there's a there's a YouTube channel called Auditing Britain. Yes. In it. Why are they doing that? This is what we're going to go into. And then there's a, there's another one that fly drones over security type compounds or private property. Annoying. So that police come out. And then there's have you seen that cyclist as well.

01:13:41:22 – 01:14:01:02
So cycling my K yeah yeah yeah. And then he's got a CCTV right. And not so easy. He's got he's a GoPro in his head. So what you need be using social media vigilantes. Is that what we Zeiss. Yeah that's exactly what it is. Yeah yeah yeah. Right. That's good. I fucking hate that cycling Mickey guy. And I don't agree.

01:14:01:02 – 01:14:25:09
The people should be on their phones when they're driving. But anyway. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll get into it. Should be. So if, if there's any people out there where who you follow or that you've seen that are these kind of, social vigilantes that these do gooders orders please send in to lads anon pod at gmail.com and we will include your stories.

01:14:25:11 – 01:14:59:11
And yeah, we're going to be moving over to dilemmas right now. Oh, just just tired. And you got an issue for a tissue. You're a bit sad cause pain will be aching in your soul, alone in your flat. Please talk to Ricky and Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest, well, friend, you deserve it. Then. Like you're safe here to get nice warm between breaking and.

01:14:59:13 – 01:15:02:03

01:15:02:05 – 01:15:28:15
Forbidden love. I'm a guy who works for a large firm. I'm an associate who works under a few seniors, all of whom are married women. Two months ago, one of my seniors texted me at 11 p.m. to ask if she could come over. I was very hesitant, but obliged in the end, and an affair started at my apartment that night.

01:15:28:17 – 01:15:56:05
Since then we have been doing this every week, sometimes multiple times throughout the week, even on holidays. It's pathetic. My problem is I'm falling in love with this girl, and I realize how horrible of a person I am for being that person. There is a guy out there having his life ruined because I couldn't say no. She has rules that I can never text or call her.

01:15:56:07 – 01:16:27:10
I know the power dynamic dynamic is fucked and I know I'm just a side piece. I just needed to get this off my chest. It's ruining my life. And being from a very religious family is absolutely no one I can talk to about this without being shamed, fired, or even possibly killed by her husband. No idea where to go from here, but I'm in love with someone I could never truly have, and they have also turned me into a person I'd never wanted to be.

01:16:27:12 – 01:16:58:00
What should I do? That's. That is so sad. Yeah. It's, I think, you know, I think he knows. Well, he needs to. The channel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I knew that. I was second guessing. It just gets to check out more, if possible. Yeah. You said multiple times during the week, I think up the ante every day.

01:16:58:02 – 01:17:24:19
Every day. My. Unfortunately, this there's no, I, I don't know, man. I've never been in a situation, but it feels like there's no good outcome for you here. One that you're going to be completely happy with. You already feel guilty because you're treading on another man's shoes by fucking his wife. And which is good that you feel that way because you shouldn't fuck other people's wives.

01:17:24:21 – 01:17:48:07
It's pretty, you know, generally not a good thing today. But a lot of people kind of make they, a lot of people say, well, it's up to her now. I'm not. I don't know the guy. It's up to her. She wants to do okay to do with me, but I. I'd like to think that, I mean, it would never happen to me now because obviously I'm happily married.

01:17:48:07 – 01:18:08:01
And, you know, I don't even think about anything like that now. But I'd like to think that when I was single, that if I knew the person I was going to be with, even if it was just a one night stand, didn't have a boyfriend. But I never asked either. During that time, I just went about assuming that they didn't.

01:18:08:01 – 01:18:28:10
She? Yeah, because I guess I didn't want to know the answer, but if I did, then I probably wouldn't do that. And, you know, it's good that you feel guilty. I think it's sort of like when you saying like back then as well. Number one, you'd assume. Number two, you just don't feel and you just like. Yes.

01:18:28:15 – 01:18:49:19
To just get to the last question, this is not the kind of thing like, oh, before we do this, you have a boyfriend. You can say that you can't bring up. All right. Nice. I think it needs to cut it off, man. You need you need to if you do. Yeah. And like the key takeaway here, when you said, she's turned into a man I don't want to be.

01:18:49:19 – 01:19:08:03
That's that's the key take home here. Because you can change that. You can't change what she's doing to her husband, and you can't change, but you can limit the damage that this is going to do. And one thing you can't limit is the fact how bad it's going to feel that you don't get to see her because you love her.

01:19:08:05 – 01:19:32:01
Yeah. It's hard. It's a hard situation. But, you know, this is why you have to listen to your brain at the beginning when it said alarm bells do not do this. Do not do this. Yeah, this is hard times because sex feels good. It does. Especially naughty sex as well that you shouldn't be doing. But yeah, I think not.

01:19:32:04 – 01:19:54:12
The first thing is that you. That kind of made me the alarm bells ringing. If the power dynamic of you're not allowed to ring her, you're not allowed to text her, you're not allowed to, you know, get in contact with, so it you know, you are you are a side piece, as you've said. And if you're falling for her, it's you are a side piece, no matter how much you think about.

01:19:54:12 – 01:20:18:00
And if you do, if you kind of do broach that subject to say, oh, like, come and be with me, then you would knowingly get into a relationship, often a bad start because you she's coming from someone that she's cheated on you, you know, I mean, it could happen to you. Yeah. So it's never a great place to start from, but yeah.

01:20:18:02 – 01:20:41:05
Then the last bit of you saying that you've become a person that even you never wanted to be, which is the main thing, I think you have to cut it off, mate. It's going to be painful and it's going to I don't know how it's going to play out, but for for your sake and probably for hers as well, you're just going to have to in there.

01:20:41:07 – 01:21:14:17
That would be my advice anyway. Same. Best of luck with that. Get get send us an email even after. Yeah celebrate, celebrate. You have set up your place with prostitutes. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure. Yeah. Send us an email. How that when you decide today, give us an update, we're going to jump into something. Only you know why something, you know.

01:21:14:19 – 01:21:38:09
The list made this email address just to send this in. Love. The pod keeps me sane on a Monday. You don't have to do it. I would never cross you up. Would never change your name. Yeah, exactly. Never do that. No, Rick. Yeah, I would know. But I know people that I've sent stuff into. I know I've never even spoke to them about, like, I chat to them and I've never just said, oh, I saw that email you sent.

01:21:38:11 – 01:22:01:21
Not nothing. None of that. But just ignore it. Yeah. Ignore it. I'll keep it short. That would be interested to know your thoughts on my naughty list. What the fuck am I on about? Wow. I have a list of porn star names saved on my phone. Next to each name is a person in my real life that they look like or remind me of.

01:22:01:23 – 01:22:34:10
I can't lie, it's really fucking extensive at this point. No one is safe. If I find you fair, I'll find someone that looks like you or captures your energy. It ranges from sexy senior managers at work to exes. Friends of my girlfriend, my friends, girlfriends, neighbors, and even a teacher at my school. Tell you what though, if this list ever got leaked, I'd be really ashamed and I'd have to grow a beard and go work offshore.

01:22:34:12 – 01:22:55:20
But despite this, I'm well proud of my list. Luckily for me, it's something only I know. Who is it is. I'm not one out. If I if he has an interaction, he'll then go home and just not one answer that pulls off. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He'll align a porn star with that person and then just, smash one out, I think.

01:22:55:23 – 01:23:08:11
I mean, if that list ever got out, like if your Macy's was ever looking for your phone and tried to talk about that one. Yeah, yeah.

01:23:08:13 – 01:23:41:13
Especially if it's her mates and your mates, your mates, wives or whatever. That's fucking mad. But, like, I've, you know, in, I think this in friends where they have a cheat list, Ross has a laminated list and he has five people that he's allowed to sleep with if he ever. Five celebrities if we ever bumped into. Yeah, I like I often I mean I don't have that list, but there's a list in my mind that I'm like, yeah, I, I, cheat on my missus for that.

01:23:41:13 – 01:24:01:20
So, you know, egg. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She she would know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's on this list? I can't, you know. Well, I mean, one of them is you've got to, I think with this list, it's got to be someone that's, let's say, not attainable, but, like, not Hollywood. You can't go Hollywood. Yeah. You know, it's like I'll be someone that is.

01:24:01:21 – 01:24:21:22
It's not like I can make it Italian, is it? Yeah. No, it's, First one. Sky sports presenter Hayley McQueen. I love that Hayley McQueen. No, I didn't, I didn't, Alex did. Oh, I thought it was this. That would have been trouble if I. If I met her. Because I would have had to have she, she would have had to cheat on her partner as well.

01:24:22:00 – 01:24:41:15
We both have to leave our families. Look at a picture of what is it about that does it for you? I don't know. Is it the big old bangers? Yeah. I didn't want to say it, but there are some. What's right. There are some absolute wack dogs. But, Didn't you didn't you tweet? Once was.

01:24:41:16 – 01:25:06:01
Yeah, I did, and then she replied and told you. She said she told you. Oh no, no, no, she blocked me. She blocked me. What did by the bangers. This is going back on Twitter. What about the bad news? This is ten years ago. This is I mean, it's over ten years ago. And this is when the, you know, the fighting cock was very,

01:25:06:03 – 01:25:32:02
Yeah, we were just. Yeah, very young. Social media was very new and that I did tweet, I think she, she mentioned something about the dress and I mentioned something about the bangers. And obviously looking back is fucking horrendous thing to have said. And she broke me. But then because I mentioned it on the podcast, loads of people started adding her and saying, please unblock my friend Ricky and they were not ready.

01:25:32:04 – 01:25:51:04
So then she unblocked me and just put play nicely and that's and she had blocked me. So we're friends now. Say, you know, I'm glad you brought that up. I've ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No no. Hahahahahahaha!

01:25:51:06 – 01:26:17:15
That's amazing. Fuck. You know, next week we're going to be talking about auditors, do gooders, whatever you want to call them. The people that try and be social vigilantes are. They wear GoPros and they try and film plays to catch them out because they know the law better. You got anything you want to share or know any of them or an account to follow?

01:26:17:17 – 01:26:35:21
Send in to lad's anon pod at gmail.com and flag. And I wish you a very Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas everybody.

01:26:35:23 – 01:26:59:13
Adam night hazy like Band of brothers playing tunes. Highs quiet. Midnight waves. Surfing through till daylight breaks. Rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers.

00:00:01:00 – 00:00:26:18
Rick. Yeah, I've had the I've had a tough week. No. And it's nothing to do with football. Okay. So do some. It's been on the news. Whoa whoa whoa. What is it here? You must know. No. Well, you have been watching these last week. I've been watching the news, but, I mean, bits and pieces. Seems just to be Russia.

00:00:26:18 – 00:00:48:18
Just bombing Ukraine on Christmas Day. Russia? You're in the right ballpark with Russia. Oh, God. What are they doing? Oh, I'm going to second I, I did did I see something? Someone sent me something the other day, actually, all this morning, and it was a bit of, Was it the Santa Claus? Right? Well, what is it?

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Tell me. Tell me, who is that? Believe that Russia has shut down a passenger plane and Azerbaijani passenger plane. And this footage of the people inside the plane and the plane going up and down before it crashes. I have to say, I'm not saying that up and down, but I've seen the people being dragged from the wreckage. I was like, I was literally the last thing I saw last night as I scroll it and I was like, what's going on?

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There was people shouting and being a for fuck's sake, there's a plane on the floor. And I said, Oh God, well, I don't love. I thought, oh my God, I got rings. How have you missed? This is the last we have. You know how people sending you stuff? No, I haven't, thank God. Oh, my. What? I don't want people to be able to listen to this podcast, because we did a whole episode on why I was scared of going in an airplane and then said everything about plane crashes as soon as they happen around the world.

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It's almost the same thing with sharks, Ricky, is that I'll get sent a shark attack. This happened. Do you think I haven't seen it? I know it's come. It's kind. It's really lovely that people do send it. And I'm really like. I'm grateful. But I see everything all the time. I'm looking at ten videos a day. I wake up focusing on the kind of short videos.

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Right? You're not sending me anything I haven't seen. I'll send you shit if you want to see shit. Okay. Anyway, so this is plane. This. So this plane is in the sky. The some guys on the ground, a video on it, and it is just doing this review for the people at home. It's just going down.

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And then, and then down and, and, and what they're doing and Ben probably be. Listen to this. Our pilot friend. Yeah. Controlling the descent of the flappers, the trying to keep the plane steady. And they just can't. Do you know why they can't. Why? Because I reckon the Russkies fucking shot up the plane from the ground.

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They got wreckage on the ground, bullet holes all in it. Right? That's that's that's good. It's actually more convincing that they shot the plane than they thought it was a loose screw. Yes, yes, at least we know. At least we know that it didn't just fall out of the sky. Do you know? Do you know I watch air crash investigation?

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I used to watch that. I don't know why, why? Why? It's like watching a scary movie. But if you want to be scared, it's one of those ones. It's one of those programs that it's really popular. And I just cannot get why people are like, oh, if air crash investigation, should we stick that on for hour? Yeah. Why not?

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It's a bit like women that watch, but like the murder programs about women being murdered, I think. Yeah, you're right. Actually, I, I might be, I've been a bit, I don't know, like, sexist here, but I'm pretty sure that the audience for, like, there's like murder channels on like the, the channel 456 on Sky. Yeah. So I mean well down, well down.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And the audience right is 90% female, 10% gay.

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I don't think that's offensive. I think that's fair. Maybe 1% ex-cop. That I've been, over this Christmas period. I've been watching a murder documentary. Let me. Yeah. The jinx. I know, it's, I know it's out. I watched it, but I I've been, recommended it for ages. What do you think? You know what I thought?

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I thought it's great. There's one thing I can't really understand, though, that I know. Spoiler alert, that he. He kills people. But in one of his buildings, there was a guy that who died in there, and he was on trial for murdering this guy, and he got not guilty. So he didn't murder this guy, but he admitted to dismembering his body and dumping it in the city.

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And then nothing happened. But, it's like we're trying you for murder. We don't think you murdered him. Don't worry about the cutting up of the body and find it in the city. That's all right. You're not on trial for that. It's just the murdering part. I don't know how many. How many alternate bodies. And do what you want with them.

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All right? Move him around. No. Just because it's in, you're out, as you call it. That's better. Well, it's my property, so I do what I want with it, and no questions get asked. Do you remember the bit where he. He recovered a body from under water free by putting in for the rib cage? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was it.

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That was the torso. That's it for any fruit? Yeah. It will never leave me that image. Okay. He's such a weird little man as well. But, yeah, I watched something really good last night. If you don't. Recommendations. Yeah. Go on. Go, monkey man. What a film. It's basically an Indian John Wick. Okay. No, I haven't. It's not a problem.

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You haven't seen it. It's a popular film. Action. Reeves got lots of gunplay and shooting and and like most of the film, is just him fucking people up, right? Yeah. Monkey man is like that. But it's better. It's like more intelligent. It's more. It's funny, but it's also shot brilliantly. Dev Patel, you know, the guy who did, Slumdog Millionaire?

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It is his first directorial debut is Violent Ricky. And there's this progression of his character. It's really interesting and it's all set, and it's really interesting environment that you're not used to in the West at watching. It's in India and it deals with what does it do if it does have government issues and it's on a on a very sort of surface level and it's just fantastic.

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It's just from start to finish. We put it on last night because I'm off to drink and, and I don't like I find it hard to sort of concentrate if I've had a couple glass of wine I love, I love like settling down for a film. Anyway, put this on. Generally, if I'm kind of not drinking, I don't know why I just fund films unless they're really good.

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Difficult catch my attention and to to flip to my phone. Yeah, me and my missus didn't even look our phone. We just watched the film from start to finish. Genuinely. If you want to see a mental film that will entertain you and is interesting, is shot brilliantly and fucking violent, like violent, then monkey for you, right? Sticking out of this actually.

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Did you say Dev Patel directed it? He directed it and co-produced it and starred in it with, and you know who backed it? Which is why you. I think he had a massive plot in his Jordan Peele. You know, Jordan Peele is, you know, you might have seen some of the sketches. Jordan. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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So that's what you did while back. But now he's, he's a serious producer and director in Hollywood. He done get out. He done. Don't look up. He done. He's on a few massive films I don't I can't recall right now. And he produced it which probably gave it the access to, you know, much easier to get it into theaters, given that Jordan Peele was attached to it.

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If it was just a Dev Patel action movie shot in India, it might have been more difficult to get it promoted over here. It was made for 10 million pounds. It made 35 million, which in relative terms to Hollywood is small but maybe smashed out of pocket. It's such a good film. Yes. Go and dev getting there sudden.

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Definitely one of my Indian brothers to get behind. Yeah, me. I'm fucking doing that. Hell yeah. All right, so we start. Started apart. Let's go.

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On the night. Hazy like Band of brothers playing Jones. High as quite midnight waves. Surfing through to daylight breaks rhythm. Here's different ways. Love of music. We prayed with our tongues in cheek. Band as I we like to speak. And yeah, times change. But no matter what the bond remains. Brothers. Hello and welcome to lads anonymous is episode 55.

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I'm Ricky Hayes, two best mates. One main topic we answer your life dilemmas and confessions in a feature called Something only You know. And everything remains anonymous always. So sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast. Plus, how was your Christmas, by the way? Yeah, it was really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fantastic. You know, spend it with the old man just chilling out, drinking, eating food.

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It was just. It was me. Mummy says it was Dad and Valerie, and it was my stepmom. The two kids who, like, you know, 15, 15 and 16, 15, 17 now. So they just sort of stated themselves. So it was just children just watch film films. And the, you were sending me some photos of the, the weapons of choice of booze that you were going to be sampling on that day.

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Yeah. These are these these are, the various. Oh, yeah. I've, I've never seen so much alcohol in my life. It's it, I called you, and I know you called me, then I did I call you back? Does it matter? And it was like, at 11:00 and and, you said, oh, you drinking? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I've just opened my first bottle of beer, actually.

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And then I said to you, oh, what are you drinking? And you said wine. And I said, that's interesting, because in the previous part, I'd said that my booze that I'd be drinking would be one. And you were surprised. Oh, you're going for wine straight like it's quite early. So. So then I was, like, surprised that you would said wine because you said that was quite early.

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And I was like, oh, you see, come for wine first of all. And you were like, that ain't my first regret. Which is why that attitude is why I'm now consider myself sober. Fucking is not a joke, Rick. I got a I had I went to the doctor's, I've got, I have an operation on my hernia which has come back and I had my sort of pre examination and, you know, like, your blood pressure's high.

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And I was like, well, I'm 43. I don't worry about blood pressure. I like that it's high. And you need to you need to we need to check out what it is. So that fucking suddenly taken my top off. I'm having egg things put all over my body. Oh, shit. Nothing wrong with my heart. There was nothing wrong.

00:11:02:04 – 00:11:26:01
I've a blood tests on all my organs, and, But I know what it is. It's just the it's it's excessive drinking. And I'm sitting in this chair for every day of the week, not moving, not going to the gym. And it's just created this sort of like a tsunami of bad decisions. What is what I never get well, what high blood pressure is.

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What does that mean? It's it's the it's the pressure. Well, actually, let's just get a definition than me butchering it. Yeah. Hypertension. The I know you say about the, sitting in the chair, but you walk the dog and you go for like, long enough walks with the dog that gets you moving. Does that not count? I guess it counts, but not enough.

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Not when you. I spend most of my time sitting still. That's a little longer. So there's blood pressure, the force of blood pushing against the artery walls as the heart pumps blood through the body. So, yeah, too much pressure on your arteries isn't going to be good, is it?

00:12:12:22 – 00:12:29:24
So it's it's you. No more booze for the foreseeable. Is it a dry January? Is it? I don't know what it is when I am. I'm not drinking. Is it a stage where, like.

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I know when I'm sober, right. So if you know, you're aware that you're sober, that's that that there's, you know, when you're drinking. So it's not. I mean, it's, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think aware of periods of sobriety then drinking is probably a problem. So it's about acknowledging it or rather ignoring it. Like people go go down the pub and it's just a social drink and you're drinking and you having five pints, or you might do it five times a week, or you might do it every weekend, and you don't acknowledge the fact that it has a negative impact on you, on you.

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Then that's a bigger problem than drinking and then acknowledging it. But the people think that. I think there's a kind of stigma with acknowledging drinking and then someone going, oh, well, that's alcoholism. Whereas alcoholism could be someone who drinks ten points on the Saturday and Sunday as well. Right? But they ignore it. And it's just that lovable bloke down the pub.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. The underlying thing is it's it's still a drinking problem. So, so it's about taking ownership really. And like when they, it's easy to ignore. But when the doctor says this is your, these are your readings and these are not good for someone your age, then if you don't take notice of that, you're a fucking idiot.

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Yeah. After you've got to do something about it then. Yeah, yeah. So and I've been meaning to for a long, long time and I have had, I've had times when I, I don't, you know, for a month here and there and then what happens is I think to myself, I'll be nice to have a couple of wines on the sofa tonight.

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And then the next day you go, well, that was all right. Let's do it again. And then you might have a day off, and then you think, oh, I've got this under control. And then a month down the line, you've drunk 20 days out of 30. Yeah, that's the boy. I think it's, I think it happens with everyone.

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And not just alcohol. Whether it's you've got, I kind of. I'll just say addiction because it's easier, but like a shopping addiction or porn or smoking weed or whatever. Like you have those points where you recognize, you know what this is, this is getting a bit out of hand or it's a bit too much, or I just want a break from it.

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I just want to think about it. And then you make that decision to not do that thing for the weekend for a couple of weeks, and then it's like, you know what? I've had a good factory reset here. I feel right, I'm sleeping better. I'm doing this. I'm not worrying about spending all this money. I'm not doing, you know, all those things.

00:15:04:22 – 00:15:31:22
And you're like, just just, just a wee drink or just a little spend up or, cash on the porn Pornhub or whatever it might be, and then you just back down that slippery slope, and it's hard to kind of keep, an even kid of it. Really? Yeah. And, you know, I've been looking into it and just thinking about reasons why people do do it, and I've done some work on it before and on myself and whatnot.

00:15:31:22 – 00:15:52:06
So but it's never really it's been like a choice thing rather than a health thing about like, I know it's unhealthy, but I'm young, I can do, I want, I'm enjoying it, whereas I'm not young. But the reality is anymore a middle aged and you don't get away with these things got free anymore. Plus is a cost, right?

00:15:52:06 – 00:16:13:09
If you're open, say you're buying. This isn't the case, right? But if you're buying two bottles of wine, even if you're sharing it with someone, right? Someone and people are listening to this, you're doing this right. But they're buying two bottles of wine a night, and so you're drinking them every night, and you time's up by 360 5A7.

00:16:13:09 – 00:16:24:19
That's nearly eight grand a year on one. That is when you put it like that. That is fucking insane and crap. That's not a pay rise the people would die for.

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A pay rise. I hate crime, I don't think you're pointing the finger. It is a pay rise you don't even have to work for. You're gonna feel better for fucking now. Have you thought about getting a pricing to sell as a as a, happily married man? Probably not for me, but I'm pretty sure that's good advice for a lot of people.

00:16:49:07 – 00:17:05:22
But as it started, I'm not sure how that would help me. Right. Okay. I just thought I'd, check it out there because, it normally does help quite a few things. It helps a lot of things. It helps a lot of things. The last pod we released on music had a lot of, lovely feedback for that one.

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So thank you for that. A lot of people enjoyed, walk down memory lane, and especially the part where we're talking about growing up and having music in the house and what our mums and dads played it. It struck a chord with people that either had that same thing or that I've lost parents and that don't have that connection anymore.

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And then thinking back to what their parents used to play and, you know, a happier time in their life. So a lot of people enjoyed the pod. Someone and I said that I think it was dare from the Transformers movie, the 80s cartoon movie soundtrack, that it was number three in my Spotify top singles I played throughout the year.

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And a couple of people saying it's a banger. Yeah, I know that. One person said they played that song when they got married. The Chase, they're there. Sorry. Yeah. For the yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I think it was more of, instrumental version that they played, not the actual proper version. So that big fucking man. Yeah, that'd be fucking mental.

00:18:17:24 – 00:18:45:08
So if, if, if he'd like that as he into the Transformers as well. He must be. Must be. Absolutely. But, thank you very much for the positive, comments and feedback. And if you haven't listened to it, go back and listen to it. Now, would you guys please continue to do the five star rating on Spotify and keep going with that?

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Hugely appreciated. And and if you're an Apple head as well, whatever you're on, if you could do us a favor right. It's five star, send a little review in, we would be eternally grateful for it. Shall we jump into today's topic? Flav yeah, cool. What is it? Is auditors UK auditors. Now I'm going to read you a little, a little bit about them.

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And this is from the the government website. So this is from National Protective Security Authority. There was a small but increasing number of reports within the United Kingdom involving individuals who attend premises and outside spaces to capture staff and property on camera, the content from which is often uploaded to social media and video platforms. We refer to them as auditors in this guidance, as it's the term most most associated with them online.

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Other terms include social media auditors and citizen journalists. It's got so out of hand that they've created a like a presentation, a guidance for this, for government buildings and stuff like the fish and chips thing. And it goes along the word of call. Okay. So chat in a friendly manner. I got a second and recurring. I'm having a nightmare and stop, stop, stop.

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I've tried to blow it up. I've tried to level up Tik Tok to find some videos to play, which we should have done beforehand, by the way. So this this woman came up and she was talking about fish and chips and then and then I clicked off it and it went on my desktop. And you were talking.

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It was playing on the. What you just heard was a little Tik Tok. I just fucked up your link. Sorry.

00:20:38:11 – 00:20:54:14
Well, why why we stop talking? We just started at that moment. Take a drink. Tea? Sorry. I thought you'd stopped recording in general. And then we were just going to jump back and think. Oh, no, wait, wait, wait, do I go back into which, I don't know, I was, I was thinking about the Tik Tok video. Right, right.

00:20:54:16 – 00:21:31:03
So the National Protective Security Authority have guidance, which is they've labeled it as calm chat in a friendly manner, assess for hostile intent, limit interactions beyond what's necessary, and monitor the risk of escalation. So these auditors are descending on either private property, police stations, places where they shouldn't be to film content and get a, an interaction so that they can upload it to their channel.

00:21:31:05 – 00:21:52:10
That guidance, you said, came from where? The government. Right. So, yeah. Go on. So someone is employed by the government. That's how they should audit something if they feel necessary. I think that's how you should meet the auditor. So you should just understand what they want. And don't be because a lot of people so little government guidance on these people already.

00:21:52:12 – 00:22:31:17
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Because, I'm going to read you a list of what these people are targeting to give you a better and a better idea. So this guy, he, auditing Britain is his name. YouTube, TikTok. He mainly targets police stations. There's railways and train stations, government buildings, hospitals and emergency services, military sites, private security firms, drone spaces, public spaces and protests, road traffic stops and council offices and public services.

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So what these people are doing, they are going there and they are there. They are acting suspicious. No matter what you say or what they do, what are they doing, what they lingering around with cameras. And so they are lingering outside with cameras. You you'll see them go into like the parking lot and you'll see them like get the camera out.

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Some take like this auditing Britain, the one I was watching yesterday. He went to a police station. He was meeting about outside. The police officer came out and said, hi, can I help you? And he just stood there and said nothing, didn't say anything. It's like, can I help you? Can I help you? And he's like, what? Am I doing anything wrong?

00:23:16:09 – 00:23:40:10
And he's like, well, I can see that you're filming. This is a police station while you filming. And then that's how it starts. And it's this. So he and Malik's cat and mouse game of I know my rights as a citizen. What I can film, what I can say, what I can do. And then it's the policemen that have no idea.

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They they, you know, they've got so many laws and regulations that they need to remember, then prominently remember everything. But these guys, they were specific ones about what he can do. So he's an expert in a small field. It's kind of like he's like, what a GP in this instance, like a consultancy knowing about fucking, you know, brain surgeon.

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It's a brain surgery. And the GP knowing about as much better than as possible. Yes. That's good. That's a good, good analogy. Yeah. Right. So yeah. So and these people like this older in Britain guy he is, he's a fucking asshole. Really. He's just you're not like you. You're not a fan. Nothing. He's just so abusive and aggressive and abrasive, and he's just acting like a knob.

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And so he's outside the police station and he's filming it, which for any by any ordinary, by any ordinary person's view is a bit weird and probably needs to be investigated if you're a police officer inside that building, especially because we live in a world where terrorism is prevalent. And yeah, and, you know, a man filming a police station, a police station could be a target for terrorism, probably does need to be investigated.

00:24:56:13 – 00:25:15:11
But by law, he's not actually doing anything wrong on public property. You're allowed to film. So correct. So that's correct. And it so the policeman comes out and then obviously the policeman wants all the policewoman police personnel to find out what that what they're doing. But he's saying, well, I don't have to tell you anything. I'm not breaking any laws.

00:25:15:11 – 00:25:38:03
I'm not doing anything. I'm just. I'm. I meant to say, am I under arrest? And they're like, no, and I am I doing this? And he he'll stop pushing them back. Can you tell me your name? No, I don't have to tell you my name because you're not I'm not under arrest. Then it goes back and forth, and he does things that he knows is going to trigger the police.

00:25:38:05 – 00:26:03:04
So whilst he's filming outside, he's got a notepad and a pen. The police person will come out and say, you're filming while you're filming, and then they'll say, I can see you taking car registrations down. You're looking at our cars, you're taking registrations. He'll he'll hold the notepad out from his chest, so catches it on camera with his pen.

00:26:03:06 – 00:26:34:02
He's drawing a pig. That's what he's doing. He's just drawing, but he's making it look like he's taking registration plates down. Or he's writing important information. Provocative, isn't he? Exactly. And he constantly does this and he own it. Seems like he only to I mean, I have seen him do, railway stations before, but it's all these places that are, you know, pretty high security that you you shouldn't really be doing that.

00:26:34:06 – 00:27:01:22
Now, a lot of the comments that I've read about this guy, you've got 50 people saying, what are you doing? What you do me, your life like, this is what you've chosen to do to go out to police stations, to train stations, government buildings. And just people say that there's a waste of resources going into the police and doing stuff, and you're just taking up resource by hanging around police stations doing that.

00:27:01:22 – 00:27:32:19
And he's not the only one. There's lots of them. And then on the flipside, people are like, it's funny, keep on doing it. If you want to troll level, troll level. And then other people are like, do you know what? I think you're doing a good job. I think you're highlighting, the transparency of the police and what you're doing and the accountability of what as well of who you think you should be doing.

00:27:32:19 – 00:27:57:22
And it's just barely holding it. That's what he's doing. He's doing any of that. What what they say is it comes from people who hate police. And they they enjoy him winding him up. That's why he ain't doing anything good. No fucking wasting people's time. He's. He's filming a building and he's read up on these various laws that apply to what he's doing now in that he can't get arrested and he's being a wanker.

00:27:57:24 – 00:28:28:15
That's what he's been. He was bullied at school. He never dealt with the trauma, and now he's turned into a cunt. That's what's happening. That's that's the camp that I'm in as well. But there are some other thoughts on this that within YouTube and TikTok and all these other social media platforms, one of the key topics for people and for content to get shared around is educational videos.

00:28:28:17 – 00:28:55:10
This qualifies as educational because it shows you, because he will go through about the different types of buildings and parts of buildings and why they should be secure and where they're secure, as well as winding people up. So it's it's this educational part on what you should do if you get caught in this situation or what your rights as a citizen in the UK is.

00:28:55:12 – 00:29:27:14
Would you agree to that? Would you say, yeah, that is educational or it's still he's just trolley. It's just found that a loophole that works. Yeah, yeah I think what do you think about. Well he is a, he's an absolute troll. Like massively. And if you watch any of his content, that's all he does. I call I have, yet to found something that is of value to a normal person in public.

00:29:27:15 – 00:29:52:10
Him. If I'm, if I'm walking down a police station and a policeman stops me that I can say, actually, you're not allowed to say that to you. Like, you know, I mean, there is no there isn't anything good that comes from it apart from this, troll interaction, which is fucking mental. And it is just wasting resources and time of other people.

00:29:52:12 – 00:30:11:08
But so many people enjoy. I don't know if I say enjoy. They hate people, hate the police and hate authority. That's what they enjoy. And they they enjoy the trolling aspect of it as well. The trolling is something that's existed since the internet begun and before that in pubs and stuff. It's, you know, taking a Mickey or getting a rise out of human beings.

00:30:11:10 – 00:30:38:08
It's, you know, it's among the most base things you can do. Yeah. Because it's so lacking in, in, you know, intellect and structure. Loads of people are into it. I'm into it. I quite like a little bit of trolling a bit. But we do it to each other on a weekly basis. Yeah. Well, you mean the WhatsApp messages where you send WhatsApp messages where you're constantly calling out my mum?

00:30:38:10 – 00:30:53:08
I mean, you you're writing for me. You didn't really do it. Yes I know, yeah. No, I wasn't going to respond. I should know that. And then. And then afterwards what you wrote, you wrote, you came back to it. And now and then you add me to make sure I'd say.

00:30:53:10 – 00:31:19:03
It was. It was four hours later, just for people they don't know. It was. Oh, mate, what was it? So funny. It was something about, one of our mates, the Dutch Pot that he was using. Sorry. So, Ricky, you you posted to say, John's. It was making gammon in this old fashioned pot, which is pretty gnarly, right.

00:31:19:05 – 00:31:43:09
And you went, like, looks like a lovely pot, too. I did our beef. And Gavin, you say, didn't stop talking about your fucking war. Meet the day. And then. And then John Bass went Rhys mum's Dutch pot. Right. Which sounds like a cross, but it's not. It's actually mum's Dutch pot. Yeah. And I said it's better than Ricky's mum's Dutch pot, which was funny, I thought nothing John.

00:31:43:11 – 00:32:08:09
It nothing. For hours later when I'm talking about a vagina. Ricky, told about your mum's vagina. I know I saw that, and I was like, do you know I'm not going to. I'm not going to go for a couple. Yeah, but a couple recently where I'm like, I know what he's done, and I'm just going to sit here and I'm going to internalize this and see, but I'm not going to I'm not going to show, I'm not going to say we've got kick, not going to get anything.

00:32:08:11 – 00:32:35:15
But what do you think there's anything that's also showing something. Right. Well, I mean you can't she can't win. We can't wait. Oh he's that you can't win. So I win. Only I win in this. So going back to this. So this guy, he goes to PlayStations. What's your view on. There is a new phenomenon where people kind of they purposely try to get caught by the police while they're driving.

00:32:35:17 – 00:32:55:08
I've seen most of it while driving and it's been in UK and America, so the cameras are already rolling while they before they get pulled over. We finished with all it in Britain. Just, So I just want to make one more comment about it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What what he's realized now, it doesn't matter what he's doing.

00:32:55:08 – 00:33:22:20
He's right or wrong. Right. In the same way we've audience and we've talked about this sort of thing a few times now, is that he's realized he has an audience and he's realized he can earn money at this. And so he will double down, and he knows he's not doing anything illegal. And there should that, he's actually tiptoeing into really sort of dodgy areas here because the government could use this as an excuse for nobody to be able to ever record a police station.

00:33:22:20 – 00:33:44:12
And they give police powers to arrest people outside. You don't want that either. You need freedom for people to be able to to record and be able to investigate, and that the police don't have absolute power. If anything, this shifts towards a world where police have absolute power. You want people to be able to charge the police. You want people to be able to record for their own safety.

00:33:44:14 – 00:34:22:00
But the more they do like this, the more the more, the more the government, if they were willing to do so, would give police powers to shut it down. You don't want a world where that is possible, and they would have to put safety measures in, like, do you know what I mean? Like if if people continue to do that, act like that film places where they're constantly on the line or just over the line just to kind of get a rise in content, then they will have to set more laws about filming police stations and what what would what would happen if they if they if they set these laws, they would they

00:34:22:00 – 00:34:40:15
would it would then be like a big commotion gun will move into a totalitarian state. Police are given more powers. This is what's becoming. This is what the government want. And actually, no, it's just some a few digital cameras at forcing police to make this action. And he would double down on it. No doubt. He's a is a vampire is a parasite.

00:34:40:16 – 00:34:59:02
And he's that's what and but but what he does have is an audience is big enough for him to live off. And that is much more motivating for him than anything else, really. It's like him. And if you did, you write down Charlie Vick in your. No, I haven't you know about him? No, he's not just films.

00:34:59:02 – 00:35:22:18
Vulnerable people like homeless people and people out on the streets and kids, little hoodlums in that on the streets. And if they get too close to him, he kicks them in the chest. Oh, my God, how have you not seen it? He's just a no again. Another guy, another bloke. He's found a way of pretending to be some sort of social justice warrior, actually just exploiting vulnerable people for his own financial gain.

00:35:22:20 – 00:35:45:01
That is insane. Never actually see him. He's always behind the camera. And he's always. He always eclipse up flash points and people clip up bits of his videos where the altercation turns to violence. And generally he's talking to drug addicts who are pissed out of their face or or strung out, and they're walking towards him and he says, don't get too close, don't get too close.

00:35:45:01 – 00:36:02:03
And if he's got it on camera, he's almost like he's almost instigating and building this thing up by using these words. And then they become physical because they're so wound up by the situation. Then he attacks them in self-defense, and this is caught on camera. So there's nothing you can do. And a couple of times he's done it with the wrong kids.

00:36:02:07 – 00:36:21:03
Come on top. He's has a run and riots and all that's been caught as well. But some people love him because they don't like this. They don't like, you know, young kids in hoodies and they don't like, you know, street dwellers and and they think they're the scourge of the earth, and they like this guy taking the piss out of them and getting a rise out of them.

00:36:21:03 – 00:36:43:12
But he's he's monetizing the misery of these people, pretty much. That is that's absolutely vile. That's worse than Audit in Britain. Yeah, it is, it is because he's not he does talk to the police and like but he's generally does it send the police on his side. He knows that what he's doing is a little bit more edgy and a little bit more risky in terms of the law.

00:36:43:14 – 00:37:11:06
But mace might just talk. I mean, I would advise you not to look him up, but he's all over TikTok and social media. The, the our guy will start fucking feeding me all these videos. Yeah. The, the videos I was talking about, like, I don't know if you see him where they purposely bite police, where they're already filming in their car, and, the police will pull up, they'll be driving slower than usual, and then the police will be like, what?

00:37:11:07 – 00:37:33:19
Why is that person. Oh, you know, they'll potentially swerve a little bit or whatever it might be. And they know their rights. Exactly. A sovereign citizens in it, mainly in the US in it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, a lot, a lot of it I've seen in the US. And as these people came to be like that, the natural laws usurps federal law and all that, and then they kind of protest in the.

00:37:33:19 – 00:38:07:05
Yeah. So, you know, it's just it's like I just find it wild. Like, I mean, again, a lot of people, it's they find the like testing public officials to see what their knowledge is like. What are they abusing power, which is, you know, it's been in the the news with the police or on abusing power. Things caught on, CCTV murders, all of that.

00:38:07:07 – 00:38:12:11
But it's, we going to I.

00:38:12:13 – 00:38:46:01
In our world now where we're just filming, like, can you imagine, like people filming you doing your job and just commentating on everything and trying to get under your skin purposely to try and rally you up or to trip you up to prove what you're doing is incorrect. It's I just I don't get it. It's it's mad. But it's also what with the advent of social media and particularly YouTube, what's what.

00:38:46:03 – 00:39:05:14
It's everywhere like that. It's much more, much less insidious. But people you've got people have made careers and all they do is talk about other people's content. Their content is them talking about other people's content. And they're loved for it. They're like idolized for it. And I get it. If you're funny, I get it. But there's also yeah, you know, there's these there's this bloke and he's made it.

00:39:05:14 – 00:39:30:06
It's this is, you know, kind of nicer to talk about because it's actually just a bloke who is a black guy who's typically was typically interested in, you know, R&B and hip hop and stuff from his culture and his career is his YouTube career is essentially been made of people suggesting music from other genres, specifically started with like indie, then rock.

00:39:30:08 – 00:39:51:12
And he loves it, right? He loves finding these news bits. And it's interesting. It's, I think, the kind of fads past now, but it was a really interesting moment where YouTube and social media was able to get to see people that would never listen to UK garage, or you never listened to, indie music, the Arctic Monkeys, and then you see them.

00:39:51:12 – 00:40:08:10
So it might be some kid in America was definitely it was who is in his car. I remember his name now, and he'd be listened to hip hop in the US, and then people would given him tracks to listen from the UK hip hop scene, and he'd be. Or it might be drill music and he it'd be like buzzing about it.

00:40:08:13 – 00:40:35:17
And there's something like really interesting about sharing your culture with another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in that instance that's really sort of wholesome stuff. There is a sort of wholesome part of it. But, these guys are lesser than share sharing loopholes in police places and stuff like that. Now there's some other dudes as well that are equally as offensive as these guys.

00:40:35:17 – 00:41:02:23
So there's a guy that flies, don't be saying that. He flies drones and he flies into space. He'll fly a drone into spaces where he knows he's not allowed to fly it, but he's like, literally on the line, the zone, the the, you know, there's a bit that's geo locked where a drone can't fly, but he'll just fly it right next to it, and he's just skirting around it all the time until someone comes out and says, what are you doing?

00:41:03:00 – 00:41:28:11
Why are you flying this here? What are you capturing video for? And then he's equally as well. I have a drone pilot license. I know my right, I know this, I know that, yeah. And then we think, And then obviously then he uploads the content, people watch it, but it's like, to what end? Like you're saying, you've you've captured an audience and you're monetizing it and you realize just getting traction and stuff like that.

00:41:28:11 – 00:41:50:08
But again, that like the, the risks in and doing that where he's flying into spaces where he probably shouldn't be and capturing other and wall around the perimeter. But if he just dips in a little bit and they've got him, the other thing is where he's how long can this content last? How long is it interesting? Like, I get the challenge in the police because people will always hate police, right?

00:41:50:09 – 00:42:15:06
They always will like they will always have authority, but eventually the content becomes the same conversation over and over again. And actually, that probably is training for the police to be better at this interaction, better with it, like being friendly and jovial, for example, just not rising, not challenging, just get out and mate. Because I've seen a couple of those where there's one where a police deal really well with him just because.

00:42:15:06 – 00:42:35:13
Yeah, nice man. They're mad that you can't do this. Tell you this is. He was yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Oh I saw I did see with order in Britain as well that there's a female police officer and she was kind of like, laughing and giggling along and shrugging their shoulders and just be like. But I do have to ask you these things.

00:42:35:13 – 00:42:56:07
You may know this, but yeah, I'm going to tell you this. You already know it, but we're just going to walk through this anyway. Yeah. And it really kind of defeats the situation. And he put it up just I think to show that people can, communicate in this way. But she could have been out on the streets walking the beat or whatever it is that policemen do.

00:42:56:07 – 00:43:25:20
Now, please get it. Yeah, exactly. I'm telling your stupid ass the, the last one that I'm going to bring up. Now, this one again, is a bit of a divisive character, divisive, obviously universally hated. Any who. Do you know who I'm going to say? It's gonna be cycling mushy. Exactly. Like. Yeah. But a lot of people, we've actually had a couple of emails in.

00:43:25:20 – 00:43:54:16
Yeah, to say I'm on cycling Mickey sideways. Look, I know you look, I wanted to aim. Avers was a started off. By the way, I'm not a grass. Did you hear me? If you got those emails uploaded, we just go straight into this. Now. I would just go straight into it. Go straight into it, because, I.

00:43:54:18 – 00:44:16:09
The people are breaking the law. You should be having your phones out while you're part and while your car is still going, but I the thing I don't like about it is. Yeah. Teach them a lesson, show them, make an example and say, look, my, my camera. Throw it in. I can see what you're doing. It's against the law.

00:44:16:11 – 00:44:34:20
Let it be that. But then he goes over us to, you know, reverse his bike up to make sure they can see that he's got the rich, registration plate. The car poked his head in, so he's got them on film, and then he's antagonizing them, saying, I'm going to send this to the local police station and you're just going to get arrested.

00:44:34:20 – 00:45:01:18
You're going to get a fine or whatever, and you just think, what the fuck, honestly, is that I don't know, is that, citizen journalist type taking law unto themselves? Yeah, I know it's the law, but do you have to be so. Well, you know that he's parents. His father was killed by a drunk driver when he was 19.

00:45:01:20 – 00:45:25:12
So I didn't know. Get an agenda. Yeah, that's what happened. So that's where it comes from for sure. Okay. This. Your dad had died by a drunk driver. You pretty, pretty miffed with people that don't pay attention to the roads, right? For sure. Yeah, but sitting in still traffic and touching your phone is not the same as a drunk driver.

00:45:25:14 – 00:45:52:08
You know, crashing into, your father while he's riding a motorbike. No. That said, should you be fucking about with your phone while driving in any way? Probably not. Does everyone do it if they can get away with it? Yeah, they do, I I've got a say while I find him intensely irritating. And there's a couple of times I've wanted to see him, you know, someone just sort of push him over folded up.

00:45:52:11 – 00:46:21:10
Yeah, yeah, because he is just a fucking biscuit in with it. It's just an arrogance to it. And he just. Yeah. Yeah. He loves drivers doesn't you just fucking eat some. Right. And we're all drivers and he's on a fucking bike as well, which is even worse. Everyone hates fucking cyclists. Come round, they're in Devizes where everything is calm and cool, and except on a Sunday when the cyclists go out there, it's mayhem and everyone's fucking like, okay, well I'll be.

00:46:21:10 – 00:46:44:15
I was stuck behind the band over about 28 cyclists in the country lane. There was no chance I was getting past them. Least of all. They're all packed up in a bunch. It's almost like they think about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think this is all road and we'll go slow as we want to. That's all right. And I have sat there thinking behind and, you know, you intrusive thoughts come.

00:46:44:15 – 00:47:09:06
What would happen if I just, But you never did. Oh, yeah. My my intrusive thought would be what would happen if I just beat the horn, scared them with the fear of them fall off? It's more than that for me. Yeah, more than that. Okay, so. So the fact that he's on a in fact, he's on a bicycle is, is, I'm just remember, Jesse's listen to this also goes out on a bike, but you just.

00:47:09:06 – 00:47:38:20
Jesse, you don't you're not a part of a big pack that stops me from getting past. That's. That's all I would say. If you're just on your own, I'll give you plenty of spaces over here. Right, so I apologize. The the one of the bits of, cycling Mickey and. Yeah. Okay, we've done the fine bit, but I've seen him be in the the lane, the opposite lane of the road where a car is driving up.

00:47:38:22 – 00:47:55:14
They're not supposed to drive up that way, but they're doing it because as you show up near Regent's Park and it's Gandalf's corner. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That that that does it. That does a ring a bell actually. Do you know you that man. That's weird. It's kind of well known. Like if you drive around London, you haven't driven around Regent's Park.

00:47:55:14 – 00:48:14:04
Much of, you know, why would drive from Regent's Park? Well, I know you wouldn't have to. I'm just saying that you would when I came back from what is is important. But when I used to drive back from here, the route back would always take me past Regent's Park. Always. Okay. So you're aware of that corner Street Chaga?

00:48:14:06 – 00:48:16:18

00:48:17:19 – 00:48:39:23
But, yeah, it's none of your business. Even though, like, driving the wrong way. I don't even know if it is against the law. It's it's probably frowned upon. And they don't want you to do that because of traffic incidences. But like, he stood there on his bike saying, no, I'm not moving. You need to go back. You need to follow the road side.

00:48:39:24 – 00:48:59:02
You need to go down there. Don't know now what you've said. Yeah, I get it, I get it. But that and if you could pop out and he could turn right, the car could turn right. There could be a cyclist, there could be a pedestrian walk in a buggy or whatever. The car goes into them and it's fucking fate or whatever it might be, but he's.

00:48:59:03 – 00:49:14:04
It tells him to police that. Is it down to him to stand in the middle of the road? He probably shouldn't have that kind of job of it. Oh, no, you have to have the resources. The reason why they don't, it's because all in Britain cycle all their time. They could be on the streets getting people using their phones.

00:49:14:06 – 00:49:34:05
I'll tell you what, cycle, Mark. You know what? In Britain needs to have a fight because one of them is doing the work of policemen. Do you think they. Yeah, I can they they love him. I would imagine the police that absolutely love it. Oh yeah. Yeah, I love money. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. I wonder if there is like, I wonder if cycling Mickey does get.

00:49:34:07 – 00:50:00:04
Do you think he gets notified for the ones that he's, he's got, that he's got a list, a spreadsheet put out spreaders of, of how much money he's, he's earned for the old bill. Well, I'm sure he's aware of it, I also. That's mad. Well, he he, he gives the the coverage, the footage to the police.

00:50:00:06 – 00:50:23:01
The police then take the footage and then go, go, go through the processes of charging the people. The all of the all of this is done without the driver needing to be there. So someone who's got done for speeding recently, I never saw a policeman in the entire time of this process. I was just said letter of the letter.

00:50:23:03 – 00:50:36:16
So for them, it's kind of like he's just making them tons of money at some point and making is that they don't have to investigate this. They have to. Yeah. He's giving it to them. They go through a due process of charging the people what it would be. You know it. I don't know what it is now.

00:50:36:16 – 00:50:57:14
So what handling a phone. Is it six point I use my hand or I'll check what we're talking about. Six point seems a lot. They fucking at 500 in fact. Jesus Christ, I've never I don't really handle my phone. Does it counter. It's six points. It's six on a crater on a dashboard. And you're like pressing the buttons to.

00:50:57:18 – 00:51:16:24
You can't touch it. You can't touch it. No, you can't touch your phone. Jesus Christ, I didn't I know this is this is the this is the advice is it's illegal to hold and use a phone, satnav, tablet or any device that can send the received data while driving or riding a motorcycle or car.

00:51:17:01 – 00:51:33:09
This means that you must use the device in your hand for any reason, whether online or offline. For example, you must not text, make calls, take photos, videos, or browse the web. The law still applies if you're stopped at traffic lights during traffic, supervising a learner driver, driving a car that turns off when the engine has stopped moving.

00:51:33:13 – 00:51:55:21
Holding you using the vice that's offline or in fright mode. That's it. Using a device handsfree, you can use devices with your hands free, as long as you do not hold them at any time. During this usage, handsfree devices means a Bluetooth headset, a voice command, dash board holder, or mat. So you can do that. A windscreen mount and a built in satnav.

00:51:55:23 – 00:52:17:15
That is just not just just don't touch your phone. Just don't touch your phone like they have your phone. So most, most cars, if you have a newer car, if you're lucky enough to have a new car, it your phone essentially appears on the on the screen now. So it's like having your phone on. Anyway, I've, I mean there's been times that I've driven I wanted to find the new address and that is distracting.

00:52:17:15 – 00:52:40:12
But what happens is, is if you touch the screen more than a few times, it locks the screen. Sorry, I didn't know. Yeah, yeah. So it's you better off stopping somewhere to do it. Really? That's a fucking ass like that is an all like. So at the end of this, discussion is, basically sidekick Mickey owed it in Britain.

00:52:40:12 – 00:53:08:20
The drone guy, the user. Stop wasting police time and resource because the dogs are out running riot, and they could be put to good use to catching them. All right, so just stop doing that. That's that's my thought. What I they like cycle monkey. I think they like these. All right. No. Not me. I can understand why he's just a cease tone, but I think police like him.

00:53:08:22 – 00:53:31:11
Do you think they would treat him fairer than you, or do you think they would give him, let him get away with the law, you know, I mean, if someone stopped him and then said, you've broken the law here. I know who you are. I'll let you off because you you're one of us. Kind of. Or do you think that make an example of him?

00:53:31:11 – 00:53:34:06
I'd like to think that.

00:53:34:08 – 00:53:46:06
I just, you know, just get his bike and frighten the bushes. I mean, he he got Guy Ritchie. Do you know Guy Ritchie, the film director? He got him back for six months.

00:53:46:08 – 00:54:20:05
No way. Really? He's on his phone. He's on his phone. That is. That's fucking hilarious. But fucking mental as well. And he got he's got Chris Eubank and he got Frank Lampard. I'm surprised. It is strange. How is how passive most people are. Yeah. Because in your head you'd think I'd take the camera off him or smash the camera or batter him, but 99.9% people don't won't do it.

00:54:20:09 – 00:54:37:17
He's going to come across someone who. And I'm not sure if this has ever happened. Who will switch? He's a lunatic and never do you think people will just think he's he's just frightening. He won't. I think that by now they know that he's definitely going to do it. There was one piece of footage of a guy crying saying, I'm going to lose my license.

00:54:37:19 – 00:54:56:11
I'm going to lose my job. Please do not give this to the police. Please don't do this. I am going to lose everything. And he said, I think about it though he did let it go. Yeah, cos it is not my problem because no one thought about that when my father was killed. All right. Good. Yeah. Okay, I think, I think we'll leave that one there.

00:54:56:13 – 00:55:22:21
That's good. Well done, psycho Mickey. Right. The we're going to go into dilemmas and something only you know, the dilemma is called is there another way and something only you know is you're taking the piss. The topic for next week is going to be new Year resolutions. New year, new me. What are yours? What you focusing on in 2025?

00:55:22:23 – 00:55:47:07
What is your start? Stop and carry on for the year. Are there any strategies that you know of to help you focus on your goals? Let's just help each other out and have a chat about what we have planned for 2025. If you've got any stories, if you've got any questions, dilemmas, anything, you know that out by now, lads.

00:55:47:07 – 00:56:18:13
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00:56:18:13 – 00:56:46:17
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00:56:46:21 – 00:56:55:12
So we're going to jump into dilemmas now.

00:56:55:14 – 00:57:22:08
Oh, just, just tired. And you got an issue for a tissue. You're a big fat cat. Will taste you. Are you aching in your soul alone in your flat? Please talk to Vicky Flanagan. Let that stress off your chest. Well, friends, you deserve to play it like you're safe here to get nice warm between Vicky and then.

00:57:22:10 – 00:57:24:19

00:57:24:21 – 00:57:43:05
Is there another way, boys, I've got a small dilemma that I need to get sorted, but it sends me into a bit of a panic. When I think about it. It always crops up in conversations. Now it's got to happen and happen soon. When I was with my ex, the conversation used to come up about me having the snip.

00:57:43:07 – 00:58:05:17
Most of the time it was brought up by the ex mother in law. Let's call a thrush in brackets it says irritating. Come. What the fuck is it? Got to evaluate. I would just laugh it off and say things like, two young doctors won't do it until I'm 30. What? What if I split up and a young bird wants my seed because she hasn't had any kids?

00:58:05:19 – 00:58:32:18
Well, that happens. It's okay though. So no worries. I can do one more. Keep that I'm older, wiser, I'm more patient. I'm pretty much a pro now. However, now she's here, starting all over again. It's fucking hard. The shitty nappies, feeding, crying, baby proofing. I know I said shitty nappies, but my babies and curry or roast don't mix.

00:58:32:20 – 00:58:56:01
The army can use those just as a torture tactic. After the little one was born it was all good. She settled for one. She said she didn't want to go back through the pain of birth again. Happy days, I thought. Nope. A year later she forgot the pain and the baby combo started. I've always wanted to, she said.

00:58:56:03 – 00:59:23:02
As a pleasing husband, he'll do anything for her and the fact I get to have lots of sex, I agreed, but 100% this is the last one. I'm 36 this month and I have my fifth baby due in January. I've got three with my ex and two with my new wife, and I know I need to have the snip, but everyone you talk to who's had it done acts like Bailey big Ballocks.

00:59:23:04 – 00:59:41:02
Let's be honest, no man in their right mind is ever going to say, I fancy having this nip for fun. What if something goes wrong and I end up with bass hopper sized balls? How do I get over this fear? I know I need to do it, but I really don't fancy having my ball back cut open and fucked about with.

00:59:41:04 – 01:00:09:18
Is there another way? What should I do? There's tons of other ways you can if not like contraception. The coil? Yeah, like contraceptive pills. Yeah. Why is him having his. What? I don't even know what the. What is it? They cut this to semen tube. Yeah, because what's the technical term for that tube? Yeah. I don't know.

01:00:09:20 – 01:00:39:19
Yeah. So it's, I don't actually know what the procedure is. Injection into some contraceptive injection. There's tons of things the lady can do. I know there's it's not always on the ladies to do it, but to to. I see it like if it was my wife and she said, I've got to have an operation so she can't have any more kids or I could take it, I could do it injection every three months to stop the be infertile.

01:00:39:21 – 01:00:46:09
I'd rather, unless there was. If I had massive side effects, then you'd revisit it. But I'd do that.

01:00:46:11 – 01:01:05:19
Yeah. Yeah, obviously. Is it there? I know they're working on a contraceptive pill for men, but I don't. I don't know if it's just a lad Bible thing. You know, every year they'll come out, especially this time of year as well. Yeah. There's a hangover pill. There is definitely, definitely a hangover pill that works all the time.

01:01:05:24 – 01:01:28:17
Is there a is there? There isn't. No fucking line. But I, I mean up to I think I've told this story in the book before that I went to have, vasectomy bang up for it and I went to my GP, said, I'm for a, I've had my kids, been my partner long, long term ready for it.

01:01:28:17 – 01:01:49:03
He said, yeah, that's absolutely fine. No problem. Put me in. Got a phone call, had the medical over the phone, everything was fine. And then the following month, someone would ring me on the day and say what you need to bring in and stuff like that. I was like, yeah, that's fine. The rang me on the day and they said, oh, sorry, direct me.

01:01:49:05 – 01:02:11:11
24 hours before him said, you're doing tomorrow. Do you have all this stuff? I just said, I don't want it anymore. And they said, well, I just said, I'm scared. And then they took me through of all the possibilities of what could happen. And the scale of it literally won't happen here. And I just said, can I cancel my appointment and place and hang up?

01:02:11:13 – 01:02:41:20
I didn't get it done. I panicked. Can you get Paula Jones for wasted NHS money as well? Well you're right. Well at the time I thought I would be going through with it and I thought it would be fine and I wouldn't, I wouldn't be so, paralyzed by fear. But when you read up about these things, like this person is saying about the I was reading paper that it could be toxic, he was pushing for a procedure.

01:02:41:21 – 01:03:04:18
Then you went, right, I'm gonna go on the internet and read about everything that's gone wrong with people. Is that what you did? Really well? No. They send you a link after after it's done. And they just say just to make sure that this is a possibility. It won't happen, but it is a possibility. And then I was reading through these cases of men that were, jacking and having excruciating pain whilst they each act.

01:03:04:18 – 01:03:24:22
So it's a bit of, That's okay. Thank you. Jack, you've probably noticed, actually, I know it's not. It's giving me not just you should also still apologize for wasting NHS money given the state the state is in. I won't do that. You have to. No, I can't go private. Next time I will stay away. All do.

01:03:24:24 – 01:03:46:05
I when I went for my, I saw the surgeon for my hernia operation, which isn't something I can bottle out of. I have to have it done. Yeah. They also give me a number of leaflets saying these are the risks. These are the things that go go wrong. You have a 2 in 100 chance of it reoccurring.

01:03:46:05 – 01:04:04:15
You have a 1 in 100 chance of blood clots. You have. And I'm like, oh God, I don't want to know that I don't. Why are you telling me this? Don't allow me to make a decision. Tell me what's best and let's just fucking get on with it. It's like, why don't you give everybody autonomy? What did you give everybody the choice?

01:04:04:20 – 01:04:24:11
I can't leave this. This can't be left. So just don't tell me the stuff that can go wrong. What? What good. What will you do? I'm sitting here now. I'm not. I'm not actually, I don't, you know, I appreciate there are risks with every procedure. I just don't need to know every single one of them. But someone who is anxious about this, like you might be rich.

01:04:24:13 – 01:04:47:15
Yeah. Don't give me reasons to be anxious. Just get on with it and do it. If something happens, we'll deal with it. Yeah, but they I think they have to tell you they have to, but they should. Because stupid. Because you get sued, the NHS get sued. Yeah, I understand that because there's people out there that would sue them for doing things wrong, despite saying because they weren't told of the risks.

01:04:47:17 – 01:05:06:14
It doesn't matter what the risks are. I can't let this get worse because it's going to descend into my ballocks and I'll have to live with a giant ballocks for the rest of my life, right? Then. It's that if would that be the worst luck, the worst case, and that it descends into your bollock? But can anything else happened after I've seen them die?

01:05:06:16 – 01:05:21:12
Right? Okay, so you do need to get that done. I thought if you could live off the joke about it. Yeah, that would be. That'd be quite a pipe. You know it. You get progressively gets worse. It's not something. Something needed mending. At the same time, the surgeon said to me that you have a choice. You've got to get this done, though.

01:05:21:12 – 01:05:34:24
And I was like, yeah, I know. So here's all the things that can go wrong. Well, I don't want to read that. Do you read it? Don't read it. It's up to you. But I have to give it to you. Be so some, so at some. So you don't sue me. If what could go wrong to everybody should go wrong.

01:05:35:01 – 01:05:58:02
Do you know what this all comes back to is just people being fucking dickheads. So spreading anxiety across everybody because some dickhead back in the line sued someone because I heard he went wrong. I'm not saying that the NHS should be without question, without review, and should be. They should hold the NHS up to the highest standards. Absolutely.

01:05:58:02 – 01:06:22:05
You're dealing with people's lives and I know it doesn't happen in some cases, but if if they're telling me 1 in 100 of these procedures go wrong and it comes back and then it comes back, and then because they haven't told me that before, I sue them. You all to come in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get that.

01:06:22:11 – 01:06:45:04
I totally get that. I mean, it's and it's more like unless it's like something may just happen. Not suing the NHS is fucking wild, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely. Sometimes horrendously bad things have gone on. Babies have died, but they shouldn't. Of diamonds and stuff like that. All of that super serious. But yeah, don't sue the NHS because you only came back six months later.

01:06:45:06 – 01:07:05:04
Yeah. But then they set me up and if that happened pretty. So, so this the Covid dilemma I will, but personally you'll be fine. Anyway, if you get the vasectomy, you will. You will be fine. I know I've just said about. How about it? I wish I had gone through with it, you know. Yeah, yeah, I do wish I hadn't done it on.

01:07:05:04 – 01:07:36:01
The thing is, because of, the way that the conception at the moment, Johnny's. And this is what I've done throughout my life, I don't, you know, it's not really going to change my life. But if you are active and if you're using Jonathan. Yeah, yeah. Well, you eat and pull out. This year here. You fucking. You're a wild man.

01:07:36:01 – 01:07:47:23
You are now, she's playing with fire. She's got a coil. She's got a cool, Okay. Yeah. No, I no, that's good, that's good though I want pretty much.

01:07:48:00 – 01:08:03:19
What you could. I mean that's a, that's a road. You could go down the other side. There's something cool. But. Yeah. Discuss it. Discuss it with me. Mrs.. Not in the fact of you should do this. I want you to go on the pill, but just say I'm nervous. Is there any other way around? This is just a conversation.

01:08:03:21 – 01:08:27:11
I don't want to do this and say, you know what I've had, I've had my fun. I've got the five kids. Let's just have a little snip. Say, you'll be fine, lad. You'll be absolutely fine. Little snip. Diesel. Right now. Something only you know. Why? Something, You know.

01:08:27:13 – 01:08:52:00
You're taking the piss. Ten years ago, I met the most beautiful women. I couldn't believe my luck. The only downside is that I knew she had a bit of a reputation as her first marriage ended because she couldn't keep her knickers up. But I was besotted and things were amazing. And we were married within three years. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

01:08:52:02 – 01:09:21:13
We'd only been married for a few months when my wife started behaving differently. You know, sex dried up, spending less time at home and just acting very sheepishly. After two months of this, I confronted her and asked her outright if she was chasing a sheep as she had previously, to which she responded, no, I would never do that to you, and blamed mental health issues for her behavior.

01:09:21:15 – 01:09:41:20
For a few weeks, things went back to normal and she was making more of an effort. Started having sex again. She was spending more time at home. I was trying to help her with depression, which she told me she was suffering from. Then things went back to how they were and I was convinced she was fucking someone else.

01:09:41:22 – 01:10:11:11
So I did some detective work and lo and behold, I was correct. She was having it off with the work colleague. I'm not someone who would ever forgive a cheat. So I decided I was ending things, but I needed to find a place for myself first, so I didn't confront her about the cheating. Instead, I started looking for a place, making sure I didn't let on, that I knew a slot, keeping things as normal as possible not to arouse suspicion.

01:10:11:13 – 01:10:39:15
It was six weeks until I found the place and moved out. So as I said, I kept things as normal as I could to not let my wife know anything was happening. One of the usual routine for our whole relationship was me making a morning coffee for my wife. But for the next six weeks, while I was making her the coffee, I was only filling the cup about three quarters, and then I topped the rest up with my piss.

01:10:39:17 – 01:10:59:15
Then I'll take it up to her, sit and chat to her while I watched her drink my pay. Did it stop the pain of cheating off her? Cheating on me? No, of course not. But having a little revenge did make me feel a little bit better. And I've never told her and I've never told her when I left, how much I was tempted to.

01:10:59:17 – 01:11:07:12
And that is something only I know. Yeah, generally. Definitely keep that to yourself.

01:11:07:14 – 01:11:32:16
I think that might even be illegal. I, yeah, it's it's, you know, I get I get people want revenge and I would want revenge. It's about revenge. Bit of revenge, guy, but I don't know if I could do that as in either. Yeah, I would have to, I would have to lay. I just have to leave.

01:11:32:16 – 01:11:39:04
I wouldn't be able to be in the same house, I think. But the the, the,

01:11:39:06 – 01:12:02:21
That is like, you know, you know, and they love what is it what happens, what is going on where a person can't stop cheating? Is it a tie timeline with this? Probably some sort of stuff that we would never do. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's anything to do with, like, being highly sexual either, because you would just have sex with your partner.

01:12:02:21 – 01:12:30:22
I wouldn't. Yeah, all the time. If I think maybe Chase is the new attention. Yeah. Validation and all that shit. Have you seen these wild social dates of where people have cheated and, like, they create some kind of, I don't know, a party or something like that. And then they get that the person who's cheated, to go through all the attention is on them.

01:12:30:24 – 01:12:48:15
And then there's a video screen playing behind them, and then it shows the video of them actually cheating and stuff like that. And it's like the whole family and everyone can see, they've been caught cheating and you've gone through all of that. Yeah. To get them to get revenge. I think that, like, I said that revenge.

01:12:48:15 – 01:13:05:22
Okay, fine. But that is fucking next level, wasn't it? There was. There was one where the bloke was getting married to this woman, and she, he found out that he was having a, she was having an affair with like six of his mates, like she was just. Oh yeah. Oh, she's just bouncing around the decks of all his mates, right.

01:13:05:22 – 01:13:21:23
Yeah. And then he knew about it and he went ahead with the wedding. And on the wedding day, he put red dots on the bottom of the plates of the men that she'd been checking, and she asked his wife to stand up as, as if he was about to toaster. And he said, I just like to just play a game with everybody.

01:13:21:23 – 01:13:39:17
Can everyone turn their plates over? And if he found a red dot, I'd like you to stand up and have all of the C6 gentleman stood up, but she went, my wife is shagging every single one of these men. And then he walks out the wedding. Oh my God. But like, I mean, that is that is fucking good.

01:13:39:17 – 01:13:57:14
That doesn't have a film in it. So. Yeah. Is that what that but expensive thing to do. But then again you can't really cancel it once a weddings but it's anyway. So yeah I can't as well I might as well that is that is a fucking tasty way to do it. But then he's got a gun down the aisle and said I do.

01:13:57:16 – 01:14:20:02
He's gonna like, he'll have to get a divorce. Wouldn't it just be easier to be like than go ahead with the wedding? You know, I mean, yeah, yeah, it would be easier, but he just wants her to see what she wants everyone to know that she's just, like, basically. Right? Yeah. That's more important to him. Yeah, yeah, I say I get it.

01:14:20:04 – 01:14:42:09
I mean, it is a kind of like warning. It's like a red flag that do not marry this woman. This is what she's going to do. So, you know, she'd have to leave town, that there's this. I won't say too many details, but what can I say? This. Yeah, I think he can. I think he can. It's at the very end of the pot.

01:14:42:09 – 01:15:12:00
Say, you know, the beam. Yeah. That was lesbian. That was. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Just says there's there's someone I know. Okay. He's, who got married shortly after I got married. Okay. To a woman. Yeah. And within a year, she'd been caught shagging some bloke at her gym, and she would go and move to Australia. Oh my God.

01:15:12:06 – 01:15:28:09
Yeah. And now she's back. No, I see her around town. Oh. No. You're awkward. Oh, my God, everybody dies. Oh, she.

01:15:28:11 – 01:15:49:05
Fuck, fuck. That is that is, Oh my God, I've got more details, but I don't give any specifics. I know we're getting late. We're gonna finish the pot so I can carry on with the conversation. So the topic for next week is New Year's resolutions. New year, new me. What are your plans for 2025? What are you focusing on?

01:15:49:05 – 01:16:04:02
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